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March 5, 2025 92 mins
4:38 pm: Former Utah Congressman Jason Chaffetz, an analyst for Fox News, joins Rod and Greg to give us his reaction to President Trump’s address to Congress.

6:05 pm: Auguste Meyrat, an English teacher and Senior Editor of the Everyman blog joins the show to discuss his piece for The Blaze about how immigrants struggle to assimilate in American schools – and we all pay for it

6:38 pm: Dr. Scott Atlas, a Senior Fellow at the Hoover Institution at Stanford University, joins the show for a conversation about his piece in the Wall Street Journal on America’s need for a covid reckoning.
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Speaker 1 (00:00):
I'll tell you what I've We've seen a lot of them,
and I think we'll obviously get into this in the program,
But you know, there's been moments, and I've seen a
lot of these studying union addresses where there's just a
general motherhood and apple pie statement made by a president
of what without regard to party, and everybody stands up
in a plus, he.

Speaker 2 (00:15):
Has no mandate to cut medicaid.

Speaker 1 (00:17):
Hey interfering with you know, we go interrupted us now
to interrupted? Yeah, he can't. He can't let it go. Can't.
That's just terrible. You hear how that works. But there
was none of that this time. These guys had these
these sophomore signs. They were holding up, they were dressed up,
they were just clowns. It was a clown show on
that side. They can't stand for kids with cancer. They

(00:40):
can't stand for I mean the stories that were shared. Anyway,
keep it up, THEMS, I think, I think you just
keep alienating yourself from the common sense everyday American and
the and the and the polls. As much it must
have pained them a lot of strong approval ratings for
the president speech.

Speaker 3 (00:56):
A CBS poll had any either what was it seventy
or seventy nine percent of the American people like what
they heard from Donald Trump last night. That Democrats do
not get it.

Speaker 1 (01:08):
I can tell you that as a recovering public servant,
anytime you get any popular or general opinion in the
seventy percent tile you're doing pretty well because you don't
see it a lot.

Speaker 3 (01:18):
No, you don't see it very much. Well, we've got
a lot to get to today. Of course, we want
to hear from you today. I mean, he was talking
to the American people. You are great listeners of ours.
We appreciate your attention, and we're going to get to
your phone calls today and we let you share your
opinion as to what you heard last night from the
President and your reaction to the Democrats behavior. That's the

(01:39):
story apparently that is coming out of this. I mean,
the President gave a wonderful speech last night. Now some
are saying it was long. I didn't think it was
that long. I sat through the whole thing. Didn't bother
me the length. I didn't even notice the length of it.
But some people are complaining about that. But it's funny
that the Democrats are getting more attention greg today than
Donald Trump in they are two stars. One certainly was

(02:02):
the president. The other, if you want to call him
a star, the Democrats who just sat on their hands.

Speaker 1 (02:08):
Yeah, yeah. I think that they are just so not
used to every just having everything their way and they
never had a hard day. They don't know how to,
you know, make a case of the public. They think
they're entitled to that support, and we're just seeing it
play out in real time. It is really shocking.

Speaker 3 (02:25):
I want to read with you. This is from Substack.
She is one of the writers the columns are there.
Her name is Sasha Stone, and I think she put
it so well. Let me read the first two lines
from her story. Today, Donald Trump proved himself more than
worthy for my vote tonight. For a man who was haunted, hunted,
I mean framed, falsely accused, spied on, impeached twice, indicted

(02:48):
four times, convicted of a felony, almost assassinated twice, he
stared down the Democrats and gave me maybe the best
speech of his political career. I think it was. She
goes on to say, I love this. The Democrats did
significant damage to their brand, although by now I'm not
sure is there anything left of their brand? What do

(03:09):
they even stand for anymore? That's a great question. What
did Democrats stand for anymore? Certainly not for the kid
with multiple surgeries on his brain given an honorary appointment
to the Secret Service. They sat there, stone faced, entitled,
and looked like petulant little brats in a rage because
they couldn't have ice cream before dinner. And that's exactly

(03:30):
that's a great description of the Democrats last time.

Speaker 1 (03:33):
Yeah, my question to that was, what is the brand?
They don't have a brand. They just want to It's
just Trump's bad. They don't they don't know. They can't
get past anything but that. Yeah, just Trump's bad. Everything
he does, they have a negative narrative for it. And
that's it. That's all they've got.

Speaker 3 (03:48):
That's all they've got.

Speaker 4 (03:48):
Now.

Speaker 3 (03:49):
Did you ever read Steven R. Covey's Seven Habits of
Highly Effective People?

Speaker 1 (03:53):
No, because I already had him. I already had highly
effective habits.

Speaker 3 (03:56):
Tell me, well, you know one of his habits that
he writes about is beginned with the end in mind. Oh,
and he suggests, pretend you're going to a funeral and
you hear people up there and they're giving eulogies about
the person who is dead and that person happens to
be you, What would you want people to say?

Speaker 1 (04:19):
Yeah?

Speaker 3 (04:19):
Okay, So I want to begin with the end in mind.
I want to hear. I'm going to play the audio
from the President's speech last night, the conclusion of this
speech that I think really got everybody up and going.

Speaker 5 (04:30):
My fellow Americans, get ready for an incredible future because
the Golden Age of America has only just begun. It
will be like nothing that has ever been seen before.
Thank you, God bless you, and God bless America.

Speaker 3 (04:50):
And that is the end of the speech last night.
But he really charged people up.

Speaker 1 (04:55):
It did. And here the thing that's great is that
he what he did is and I don't know who
thought of doing this, but he called out the Democrats
pretty early that said, there's just not a single.

Speaker 3 (05:05):
Thing will have sound with that. A little bit you
can do.

Speaker 1 (05:07):
That you will ever stand for. And he almost just
he painned them in a corner that if they don't
stand there, they're being exactly as he's describing, of which
they did comply, and they did it exactly how he
told the American people they were going to behave that night.
And I I thought that was a genius. I've never
heard in a State of Union addressed commentary on the

(05:29):
defiance of not standing and he just went right at it.

Speaker 3 (05:31):
He played them like a fiddle last night. I mean
it was it was. I mean, here they are. And
he called him out to early and we'll play that
audio here in a few minutes, called him out, said
you're never gonna say it like anything I do or say,
so you know we're gonna move on.

Speaker 1 (05:45):
So I wish I knew the answers, and I think
this has got a lot of attention. So but I
was I didn't. I haven't listened to every single word
of that of that State of the Union. But did
he call Senator Elizabeth Warren Pocahon? I heard, but I
thought I better check in here. I'm just gonna before
I think that that's true, I better check he did.

Speaker 3 (06:05):
That was near the end of the speech. You know
what he spent?

Speaker 1 (06:08):
What do you think I was in the speech? Or
did he go off script there?

Speaker 4 (06:11):
Oh?

Speaker 3 (06:11):
I think he went off script. Yeah, yeah, he went
off because they were talking about Ukraine and he said,
I'm trying to bring an end to this war, but
there are some people who kind of want to keep
it going for another five years Pocahontas. I mean, it
was just a great line last night. So yes, he
did do that, but I think now he was able
to humanize the issues that he's dealing with by telling

(06:34):
the stories of people who are in that gallery last night. Uh,
he was able, and he did a masterful job at
that last night. And he brought a little humor. You know,
he can be a very funny guy, and he dropped
in some liners that were great last night. I don't
know if this was written in the script or in
the speech last night, but this was a home Runlet's

(06:54):
what he said about immigration.

Speaker 5 (06:56):
Since taking office, my administration has launched the most sweet
border and immigration crackdown in American history, and we quickly
achieved the lowest numbers of illegal border crosses ever recorded.

Speaker 6 (07:11):
Thank you.

Speaker 5 (07:12):
The media and our friends in the Democrat Party kept
saying we needed new legislation, We must.

Speaker 1 (07:19):
Have legislation to secure the border.

Speaker 5 (07:21):
But it turned out that all we really needed was
a new president.

Speaker 3 (07:31):
I really think that was There were a lot of
good lines last night, but to me, that was the
best line. Because during the campaign, remember everybody out there
saying we had legislation. You know, Donald Trump killed it.
We could have solved this crisis. We could have taken
care of this issue. It's already taken care of it
because they have a new present.

Speaker 1 (07:50):
And it's I mean, I we all, we all knew
that was the case because we saw what the world
looked like in its first administration and how that border looked,
and we knew that. You know, there weren't any laws change,
you just stopped and forcing them and so but to
see those to see those numbers and to see the math,
not the what we think we see or what the
perception is, but to really see one hundred and eighty
nine thousand border encounters last year in February and eight

(08:14):
thousand in February of this year, I mean, come on,
that is the difference of a president. That's the only
thing that's different between year over year is the president. Yeah,
that's it.

Speaker 3 (08:23):
No laws, no laws, he just forced. We had Mike Lee.
How many times did Mike Lely come on this show,
Greg and say they don't need legislation, justin forced the
laws on the books and guess what it will solve itself?

Speaker 1 (08:37):
Well, you know, the Democrats subscribed to they never let it,
let a crisis go whatever they say, waste to waste.
And so they tried to use that border crisis to
really make illegal immigration legal. That's what that build that
Center bill was looking to do. And they couldn't. They
stopped it.

Speaker 3 (08:54):
They did stop. But all right, we've got a lot
to get to more of the audio from the speech
last night, a reaction to it.

Speaker 1 (09:00):
He just keeps in, going to keep wandering through here.
He just keeps you going on, just keeps on it
between he gets some sergeant of arms in here at
the canter al get out, escort him out of this studio.

Speaker 3 (09:15):
We'll get at out of here. Well, we've got a
lot of audio, more audio coming up from the speech
last night, as well as comments today. Some analysts, some
great analysis out there. We'll get to that. Jason Chafit's
former Utah congressman now the Fox News contributor, will be
joining us at the bottom of the hour. We'll get
his sauce on that. But more importantly, throughout the day today,
we'll be getting to your phone calls if you want

(09:36):
to join in on the conversation. Love to get your
reaction to the speech last night, as well as the
behavior of the Democrats, if that's what you want to
call it. So that's all coming up on the Rotten
Great Show right here on Utah's Talk Radio one O
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Radio one O five nine Kate and our ass more

(09:58):
of the audio now from the remarks by the President
last night, Greg, you brought up that Pocahontas comment, and
I think we have founded Here's what he said last
night about Elizabeth Warren, the Democratic senator from Massachusetts.

Speaker 5 (10:11):
In sight, the United States has sent hundreds of billions
of dollars to support Ukraine's defense with no security, with
no anything.

Speaker 1 (10:37):
Do you want to keep it going for another five years?

Speaker 4 (10:40):
Yeah?

Speaker 2 (10:41):
Yeah, you you would say. Pocahonta says, yes.

Speaker 3 (10:49):
She laughed at that. She actually she had kind of
a sense of humor.

Speaker 1 (10:53):
Smiley and cat clapping. She didn't let she didn't let
him see like he got to her. So all those applauses,
all that applause line you heard, was really coming from
the Democrats. That's the only thing they could actually, you know,
clap about, is that there was all these hundreds of
billions of dollars sent in defense, but really no peace
in sight. And that's why I said, you want more,
five more years of this and they kept clapping.

Speaker 2 (11:14):
Yeah.

Speaker 3 (11:15):
They did. One of the I think one of the
key moments last night as well. And he did this
early in the speech last night, those of you who listened,
was he took the Democrats on head on.

Speaker 7 (11:26):
Now.

Speaker 3 (11:26):
They were acting like their behavior was just awful last night,
and Donald Trump reckoned. He knew it going in that
they weren't going to respond to him. There had been
reports all day Greg that they were going to carry
around MDA cartons and have those little hand clappers and
disrupt as much as they could last night. Now, from
what I understand, you didn't hear it so much on
television last night, but people inside there were saying there

(11:48):
was a lot more disruption than you may have heard
during this speech last night, the cat calls. But the
President recognized that and he took that head on right
at the beginning of his speech.

Speaker 5 (11:58):
This is my fifth speech to Congress, and once again
I look at the Democrats in front of me, and
I realize there is absolutely nothing I can say to
make them happy or to make them stand or smile
or applaud Nothing I can do. I could find a
cure to the most devastating disease, a disease that would

(12:21):
wipe out entire nations, or announce the answers to the
greatest economy and history, or the stoppage of crime to
the lowest levels ever recorded. And these people sitting right
here will not clap, will not stand, and certainly will
not cheer for these astronomical achievements.

Speaker 2 (12:42):
They won't do it no matter.

Speaker 3 (12:43):
What, have you ever heard anybody do that? I mean
call out the opposition right to their faith. And I
know you aren't going to support me, but we know
it is what it is. If you want to work together,
I can, but you don't seem to be very willing
to do so.

Speaker 1 (12:56):
See what's so funny about that is that you think
that the reverse psychology would work, that they will show you. Yeah,
and they was at least stand for the cancer patients.
But no, they'd proved him right. They absolutely did.

Speaker 3 (13:07):
Yeah. Here's Scott Jennings on CNN last night talking about
the behavior of the Democrats.

Speaker 8 (13:12):
This was a horrific night for the opposition party. Regardless
of how well she just spoke. It started out with
al Green getting thrown off the House floor because he
couldn't keep his emotions under control. Then they had the
ridiculous paddles, which now social media is roasting you said
on one side, ridiculous. And then finally, and finally, maybe
most terribly, the Democrats who couldn't find it in their

(13:35):
heart to stand for objectively good things, including the ninety
five year old mother and mark of Mark Fogel and
Mark who got rescued from a Russian prison, and they
couldn't even stand up for that. I thought Democrats came
into this speech lost and defeated by Donald Trump, and
today it looks to me like they're even more lost

(13:56):
and even more defeated to when this speech started.

Speaker 3 (13:58):
And more great analysis last night after the speech from
Dana Perino on Fox News.

Speaker 9 (14:02):
Well, at the beginning of the speech, he started off
by saying, there's nothing I can say that is going
to make you clap for me, and then they proved
him right. Now, many Democrats did not defend al Green
as he was escorted out.

Speaker 1 (14:14):
They didn't fight that.

Speaker 9 (14:15):
Many other Democrats left during this and went and did
little videos. But I think that what it showed is
that the Democratic Party still has no common sense. They
have no ideas, and they have no heart. They couldn't
even stand for the most inspiring moments.

Speaker 1 (14:31):
Of this speech.

Speaker 3 (14:32):
Yeah, you know what I liked last night, Greg, As
we listen to the speech, I think Donald Trump owes
us some credit. He owes us credit personally. Yes, okay,
because how often have we talked on this show about
common sense? I know, and that was the theme of
his speech. I'm o call, let's say, guys, why didn't
you give us a little credit? I know he could
have said easily last night, as Rod and Greg say

(14:54):
each and every day, it's all about common sense. He
didn't do that last night.

Speaker 1 (14:58):
We have been the party of common sense. We been
talking about that for a long time. I'm glad to
see that. You know, his his people listen to the
program as well. They are clearly listeners and and it's
really made its way to the Oval Office. It's good
to know the East Wing is a Rod and Gregg show,
as they should so.

Speaker 3 (15:15):
But I think that's what the American people admired about
it last night. Many of these issues that he talks about,
from immigration to gender to you name it, Greg, it
is simply about common sense, and the American people are saying,
can we just bring common sense into this equation anymore
and find common sense as to why we're doing this
and why we're doing that. I thought another very strong

(15:36):
moment of his last night was when he recognized Elon Musk,
who was in the in the in the crowd there
last night, and he started listing Greg all the waste
that Elon Musk has found. And I mean, now, he
could have stopped after a couple of them, but he
kept going and going and going for effect. So we
hoped the American people could realize what is going on

(15:59):
in the federal government and the picture is not pretty,
and that's why that's what he's trying to do.

Speaker 1 (16:04):
You know, it's so funny too the media. I saw
the New York Times afterwards, and they said, he says
that with no proof. The New York Times has a
paper of They think they're a paper of record. They
think they have been reporting on this exact waste, fraud, abuse,
waste of money. They've been doing it for decades. They've
been doing it for so long, and so if they
if they think it lacks evidence, then what do they

(16:25):
think they are, because they have been pointing out all
the in they don't know, they didn't know the magnitude
of it. But to say that this, this waste simply
doesn't exist because there's no proof. They've been printing examples
of the of proof for at least twenty to thirty.

Speaker 3 (16:40):
Years, and he won't even recognize that as no men
cut down.

Speaker 1 (16:44):
Oh there goes Al again.

Speaker 3 (16:45):
We got to get al out? Can we get it?
Where's the sergeant in arms? Can we get out of.

Speaker 1 (16:49):
Your sergeant arms? And he keeps interrupting our show. He does,
he did last night. He's doing it now, just doing.

Speaker 3 (16:55):
It all day. All right, Congressman, our former Congressman Jason
Schafits will join us next right here. On the Wingman
Wednesday edition of The Rotten Gregg Show.

Speaker 1 (17:02):
Brett Baar posted this that Fox News Channel delivers the
highest rated joint addressed to Congress in cable news history
last night, wow with an audience of ten point seven
million and a one point nine million in the twenty
five to fifty four year old demographic demo. Yeah, now,
why is twenty five to fifty four important? It's considered

(17:26):
by everyone's money demo it's Yeah, it's the people that
are that are you're not a child, and you're not retired. Yeah,
you know, although I'm older than fifty four, so I
take exception that my age is not included this all
important demo. I think I'm important.

Speaker 3 (17:40):
I have been so far out of that demo for
so long, I really don't care. But it is the
money demo, because that's that's the number one demo or
demographic group. We call it a demo that advertisers look for.

Speaker 1 (17:52):
And it's the one that MSNBC and CNN I've never
seen before. They've never they go a couple of months
and not see numbers accumulatly and not kid to know
what the.

Speaker 3 (18:00):
Number again from Fox News ten point seven.

Speaker 1 (18:02):
Seven million people last night. Wow, it's the largest in
cable not just their network's history, in cable news history.

Speaker 2 (18:09):
Wow.

Speaker 1 (18:10):
Never have never seen that hive audience.

Speaker 3 (18:12):
Well, let's carry on now with our continuing coverage of
reaction to the President's speech last night. Joining us on
our newsmaker line is former Utah Congressman Jason Chaffit's powerful
member of the House Oversight Committee at one time. Now
all Fox News contributor Jason, thanks for joining us. What
was a lot was said last night, A lot of
very good segments during the speech last night. What was

(18:33):
your biggest highlight, your biggest takeaway last night from the
President's speech?

Speaker 7 (18:38):
The idiot that stood out.

Speaker 10 (18:42):
To home?

Speaker 3 (18:42):
Were you referring.

Speaker 11 (18:46):
Maybe the people who just decided to be the resistance.
They couldn't support America. They couldn't support a kid with cancer,
is that brain surgery? They couldn't support a ninety five
year old woman who you know, got her son back
and you know, well that whole story with Donald Trump
meeting her ten minutes before he went on on the
stage in Butler, Pennsylvania, and then to bring her son

(19:07):
home as being a hostage, you know, being held illegally overseas.

Speaker 2 (19:11):
That was amazing.

Speaker 11 (19:13):
And just the whole idiocy of the Democrat resistance movement.
That's I think what it will be known for.

Speaker 1 (19:21):
Jason. You've been a member of Congress. You have a
lot of institutional knowledge and memory of Congress and of
State of the Union addresses. Share with us because I
remember one time Republican Congressman Joe Wilson yelled lies when
my President Obama was giving a speech and everybody was
just mortified. Someone would yell out during his speech. There
were always occasions where you saw everybody in all members

(19:42):
of Congress in the Senate standing up to applaud generally
good things that were being said. Contrast what you've been
through in a State of the Union address, whether it
was a Republican or Democrat, versus what you watched last night.

Speaker 11 (19:54):
Well, I've been to ten of them. I went to
eight with Barack Obama too, with President President Trump. And look,
when President Obama entered the room, I stood and clapped,
and it was more of a golf clap than something enthusiastic,
but you know, and when the first lady walked in
the room, of course I did.

Speaker 1 (20:12):
I stood up.

Speaker 11 (20:12):
And when President Obama recognized ordinary Americans doing extraordinary things,
I you know, I stood up. At one point Obama
he said he wanted to get rid of her marks.
Something I believed it, so I stood up in my clap.
I wasn't there to just be the resistance. And what
I what makes me just disgusted was like Wie Wasserman Schultz, right,
the congresswoman out of Florida. She she heads up the

(20:35):
cancer Caucus and she's a cancer victim, and yet when
you have a thirteen year old gone through multiple surgeries
with cancer, she couldn't put her hands together and stand
up and honor him just because she's mad at Donald
Trump as the president of the United States. That is
so anesthetical. It's just so wrong to the process that

(20:59):
our founders set up. You know, they claim the Democrats
that have the Party of Democracy and they want to
save the Republic. Well, part of that is having a
having a dialog. We weren't they supposed to be about diversity, equity, inclusion.
Didn't sound very inclusive to me.

Speaker 3 (21:15):
No, Jason and many of the Democratic Congress women last
night wearing pink in support of I guess women's rights.
But they can't stand up and support the effort by
the president to keep men out of women's sports.

Speaker 11 (21:27):
Yeah, first of all, they can't define what a woman is.
And the idea that all they all voted against, the
idea that that there should be women's sports and that
they should be you know that Title nine. Why don't
we just get rid of Title nine just have sports?
And you know that they they have a lot of
nerve of doing that, because when it comes to protecting

(21:51):
those that are not yet born when it comes to
those people who are trying to participate and in women's sports,
and I feel for the young women, right they spend
their lives, their talents, their efforts, They're working out every day,
and then they finally get it, only to have some
dude with junk running down the track with them or
spiking a volleyball in their face.

Speaker 12 (22:11):
I mean, it's just wrong.

Speaker 1 (22:13):
So let me ask you, I just don't see anything
that they're doing really appealing to every day Americans. And
I've asked this question of a number of our guests
over the last couple of weeks. But do you see
any daylight for the Democrats if they keep doubling down
on just being in the opposition of not being able
to embrace every day Americans and their circumstances just to

(22:33):
just say no to anything that Donald Trump were to say.
Is there any pathway that you see for them to
either reset or anything that they're doing right now resonate.

Speaker 11 (22:45):
No, they Look, if you want to own twenty percent
of the electorate, you can just show up, or you
can do what the Democrats are doing. Look, the reality
is they lack a leader. They don't have a leader
of their party, and they are void of policies that
would make a different in people's lives. And look, there
are arguments to be made on how to treat tariffs

(23:05):
differently on economic policy, but I don't see them or
hear them doing any of that. That's why they got
a schlacking in the election. Two thirds of America said
they were on the wrong track with Biden and Harrison Democrats.
Democrats have controlled the White House twelve of the last
sixteen years, so America wanted to go a different direction,
and so they know we are. And it's up to

(23:28):
the Republicans. And it can't be all Donald Trump all
the time. One way to give this power back to
the Democrats is to screw it up. And I really
worry about Republicans in the House, in the Senate. I
don't know that they know how to play team ball
and actually get the ball where it needs to be.
And that'll play itself itself out on Friday, March fourteenth,

(23:50):
and with reconciliation. If they don't get those two things done,
Republicans are in trouble.

Speaker 2 (23:54):
They'll feed back the.

Speaker 3 (23:55):
Power, Yeah, they will. Jason on the speech itself last night,
I thought it was one of the best, if not
the best speech he's ever given, ever given. He highlighted
many of his complimen accomplishments. He also was able to
humanize many of the issues by telling those great stories
of people who were in the gallery last night. I mean,
what's your take on the speech itself.

Speaker 11 (24:16):
I totally agree with you, Rod, it was one of
the finest speeches. He's kind of he's given a masterclass
on how to do this, and he doesn't. Part of
the mastery of what he's doing is he takes real
Americans to exemplify and personify the goal, direction and the
attitude and approach of the country, not using them as pawns,

(24:39):
but highlighting their real needs and their experiences. And that
touches the heart, that explains to people what's going on
more than just words.

Speaker 4 (24:50):
But he was very scripted.

Speaker 2 (24:51):
It was long.

Speaker 4 (24:52):
It was like the longest one.

Speaker 11 (24:54):
But I also sat back and thought, he's only been
an office like forty days. I think you give when
you've been there for four years. So he is working
his butt off. He's making a real difference, but you know,
there's still long ways to go. But I was I
agree with you Rodd it was one of the best ever.

Speaker 3 (25:13):
Yeah, I think it was, Jason. Thank you very much
for joining us on our newsmaker line. That so former
Utah Congressman Jason Chaffits now a Fox News contributor. All right,
more coming up. You were about to say something.

Speaker 1 (25:26):
I was going to say, I interrupt you. He was
in person for he was ten to ten of these,
and so he can tell you the contrast pretty you know,
pretty legitimately.

Speaker 3 (25:35):
Pretty obvious last night. Yes, they're the ones he's done.
And look at the numbers. I'm impressed with the numbers. Biggest,
biggest numbers every table news history on Fox News last night.
All Right, more coming up right here on the Rod
and Greg Show in Utah's Talk Radio one oh five nine,
Kate and rs. It's been so much fun to look
at all the memes today for the Democrats holding their

(25:57):
little placards. You sent me three or four.

Speaker 1 (26:02):
Ten, like they're all giving it ten to the president's speech.
That's a nice one.

Speaker 3 (26:05):
I like that one by one of the member of
the squad. He held it up, someone changed and the
sign I farted.

Speaker 1 (26:12):
Yeah, I know, they they're they're just it's just hilarious.
There's such clowns. They just walk right into it. You
gonna hold up signs like that and you're just it's
open season.

Speaker 3 (26:22):
Even Colbert knocked him last night. Yeah, he did last night.

Speaker 1 (26:26):
That's pretty bad. I mean, even him, because but you
know our guy, Fetterman boy, he's He called him an
unhinged petulance and said that their behavior makes Trump look
presidential and restrained. And he says, I don't think he
compares the Democrat Party to a car alarm going off
that when they go off so often you stopped hearing.
You stop hearing them, they don't they don't matter anymore.

(26:48):
That's what he thinks his party's turned into. I can't disagree.

Speaker 3 (26:51):
Great comparison, that's right. Well, of course, the Democrats are
really being criticized for not even recognizing the young boy
who has made a secret servants agent last night after
battling brain cancer. But listen to this explanation today, a Democratic,
your representative this from Texas's name is Representative Greg Kazar
explained why the Democrats decided to sit on their hands

(27:13):
and not do anything about what happened last night.

Speaker 1 (27:16):
I hope that everybody prints this very clearly.

Speaker 13 (27:19):
Every single Democrat has enormous respect for the American people
and for cancer survivors. In fact, you have cancer survivors
here in this room. What Democrats stand against is Elon
Musk and Donald Trump ripping cancer research to shreds in
order to give billionaire texcuts, firing doctors and nurses who

(27:41):
are caring for kids with cancer right now in order
for them to take their salaries and put them in
their own pockets. So every Democrat stands with enormous respect
for the American people, whether they agree with us or not,
and especially for those who are.

Speaker 2 (27:56):
Ill and struggling.

Speaker 3 (27:57):
So let me, I want to get this straight from
this representative helping make sense of this great so by
sitting there standing for something.

Speaker 1 (28:06):
Yeah, that's I mean, did that make sense to you? Well,
no it does not. It doesn't make sense to any
of them. Anyone in America couldn't follow his logical down.
And that's that's again. Who am I to get in
the way. Just keep keep talking like this. I mean,
this is what Federman knows full well. Man, this man
was a stroke victim. Okay, he had to go to
like and afterwards, after he got elected as a stroke victim,

(28:28):
he had to go to counseling. Yeah, and he comes
out and man, he's like, it's starting to make sense. Yeah,
he's being pretty reasonable common sense. Look the area, the
Braddock which is right outside Pittsburgh. I mean it's really
a stone throw from the main city, but I know
this area. It's a rundown, old steel town. It's it's
population is just shrunk. But he was the mayor there

(28:48):
for a long time. But he does come from a
population of people that are very blunt, and they're very straightforward,
and they are very common sense. And they've been democrat
by you know, tradition, by you know, generations of their family.
But they're not today's Democrats. I can tell you that
the uncles and grandfathers and people I grew up with

(29:08):
who were in unions, steel workers, blue collar, they wouldn't
want one single thing to do with this current party
right now, the Democrats.

Speaker 3 (29:16):
That's for sure. All Right, all right, we need to
hear from you. We're going to take the entire hour
coming up in the five o'clock hour, open up the
phones to you, because I want to get people's reaction
to the President's speech, which I thought was fantastic last night.
The Democrats behavior. I'd love to get your thoughts and
hear what you say about what the Democrats did during

(29:36):
that speech last night. So we'll open up the phones
to you. Our number two Rod and Greg is on
its way to stay with us scorcher last right on
what is going on in America today? How are you, everybuddy,

(29:57):
Welcome back to the Rod and Gregg Show with you
on this wing Man Wednesday, YEP.

Speaker 1 (30:01):
On talk radio one oh five nine can rs everybody,
Let's get in the van, let's go, let's go. We're
going to Eagle Mountain.

Speaker 2 (30:07):
Yeah.

Speaker 3 (30:07):
We want to open up the phones to you for
this entire hour and get your comments on your thoughts
on what the President said last night. Was there one
moment that really got you last night? Also your reaction
and your comments on the behavior of the Democrats, because
I think most people are saying that was that was disgusting.

Speaker 1 (30:25):
So what's say you our audience, smartest listening audience said
he the land, Let's go to our phones. Let's go
to Debbie. Who's inn orum? Debbie, thank you for Rodie
and welcome to the Rodding Greg Show. Observations from last
night's State of the Union address.

Speaker 14 (30:40):
Yes, thank you for taking my call. My husband and
I watched the entire speech, which we were interested in
until the very end. My main comment that I'd like
to make is the disrespect that was shown last night
towards President Trump was not just.

Speaker 6 (31:06):
To him, it was to.

Speaker 14 (31:09):
People like myself. It was like it was two people
who respect America. It was it was beyond it's beyond discussing.
I took it as a personal affront to myself for
them not honoring who our president is and accepting all

(31:31):
the good that he's doing.

Speaker 3 (31:33):
All right, Debbie, thank you very much. I think it
was at a front to the American people. I mean,
you know, he is the president of the United States.
You know, we made fun of Obama, we made fun
of Biden, but we respect him him as president of
the United States. You know, how about respect for Donald Trump?
And Trump admitted it last night. So look, I know
you aren't going to vote for me. I know you
aren't going to cheer for me.

Speaker 1 (31:54):
Yeah, the way he the way he paid them in
a corner, saying there's nothing I could do. I could
I could find a cure to the you know, disease
that would wipe out a nation, and you'd still wouldn't clap.
I could do this, I could do that, and you won't.
And they instead of proving him wrong, they they said, yep,
we're not We're going to prove that we're absolutely that small.
I think. I mean, I can, I can sincerely say

(32:15):
that when President Obama was president and there were those
moments where there was an outburst, even Congressman Joe Wilson,
I remember thinking to myself, I believed that what he
was saying was right, that what Obama was saying was
patently false. But when he yelled out lies and there
was some booing that happened when he did that, I thought,

(32:36):
I just winced. I went, you know, it just doesn't
make us. I mean, that's not good for us. I mean,
that's that's not our best look when you just start
screaming out in heckling. And there's been a couple of
times where I've seen that during the State of the
Union where I've not thought it put the Republicans in
Congress on their best gave it to their best look.
So I'm not being selective in logic or outrage when

(32:57):
I say that what we saw last night from the
Democrats eclipses those outbursts that I heard or I observed
over the years. It is so much worse, and I
and and again it is. There were so many moments
in past Stay in the Union addresses or you know,
addresses to Congress where everybody could stand up on a

(33:17):
decent human moment, everyone could you. And then there was
times where you had presidents who would actually have policies
that they knew the Republicans would like if they were
a Democrats, and when they brought those out, the Republicans
would stand with the Democrats and cheer okay and or clap.
This is just a different brand what we saw last night.

(33:38):
I think jump the shark. I think this was worse
than we've ever seen. I don't recall seeing one, uh,
without regard to the party of the president. I don't
think I've ever seen one like last night.

Speaker 3 (33:49):
Well, I mean there were so many moments last night,
Greg where everybody could have cheered.

Speaker 1 (33:54):
Yeah, I mean everybody. I mean it was designed that way.

Speaker 3 (33:57):
Yeah, that was designed. And you know, there were people
who were in the in the audience last night who
the President recognized, including this young man and tonight, DJ,
We're going to do you.

Speaker 1 (34:07):
The biggest honor of them all.

Speaker 5 (34:09):
I am asking our new Secret Service Director, Sean Curran
to officially make you an agent of the United States
Secret Service.

Speaker 3 (34:21):
Now, Greg, you had to be watching that last night.
I know you were tied up last night. But that
little boy's eyes when it was announced he was going
to be a Secret Service agent, they just they became
larger than dollar bills in silver dollars. I mean it was.
And then for the head of the Secret Service, who

(34:41):
I believe was with Trump when he was shot at Yes,
and Butler right, he's now the head picked the boy
up and gave him a hug. It was a chill
moment to see what was going on with that last night.

Speaker 1 (34:54):
Yeah, you know. And there was another moment that I
actually saw because I was trying to jump in and
out of this speech where you had a a young
man who's his I think his father had been killed, Yes,
and he had applied for the for the military West
Point Point in the President the United States in this

(35:15):
in the same year announces you've been accepted and let
him right there and is a five sports player kid,
you know, letter letterman kid plays five sports in high school,
you know, And he had a you know, real trials
in his life. And then the President tells him, guess
what kid you're in.

Speaker 3 (35:31):
You got accepted when you when you think those are
stories that all Americans could get behind grabs, he was
so happy, a man so proud, the man who was
brought out of Russia and his mother was there with him. Yeah,
his mother was in Butler and asked the President to
do whatever he could to get her son home. And
he did that, and he recognized and the two moms
who've lost daughters because of illegal immigrants. There there are

(35:55):
no politics in this, folks. It is just success American
six stories and the Democrats didn't even recognize it last time. No,
that's what I think is angry in the American people.

Speaker 1 (36:06):
Remember when when Biden was trying to talk about people
that being killed by illegal immigrants, he couldn't even uh,
he couldn't even pronounce the name of the victim. Remember
what was her name?

Speaker 3 (36:17):
He called her? Uh called her? Uh, yeah, it's it's
Lincoln Riley, but he pronounced it Lincoln Riley, who happens
to be the football coach at USC.

Speaker 1 (36:25):
Yes, and so he couldn't even really get her name correct. Yeah,
And you know it was, and it was such a
contrived moment. I mean, it wasn't. It didn't have that
feeling that you heard these stories last night, shared the
motion that they had. He was just trying to get
the words out and he couldn't pronounce her name, and
it was just trying to tip a hat towards those
that are up set about the violence of those that

(36:45):
are coming here illegally. But uh, nothing genuine or authentic
about it from from Biden.

Speaker 3 (36:50):
All right, now, before we get to more of your
phone calls eight eight eight five seven O eight zero
one zero eight eight age five seven oaight zero one zero,
or on your cell phone dial pound two fifty and
say hey, Rod, we're getting your reaction to the President's
remarks last night and the Democrats behavior as well. This
will tick you.

Speaker 2 (37:07):
Off, Greg.

Speaker 3 (37:07):
I've put together a montage of how the media, okay,
judge the address last night by Donald Trump. Listen to
how the media, legacy media responded to last night.

Speaker 15 (37:22):
As much of a campaign speech as you can have
in in that or at least as we've.

Speaker 12 (37:27):
Ever seen in that venue.

Speaker 16 (37:29):
I never heard of President's attack the opposition in the
speech like this, in such a pointed way, even going
after to use a rather derisic nickname for Senator Elizabeth Walsh.

Speaker 17 (37:41):
It was trademark Trump. It was very partisan, it was
very defiant, It was very focused on him. Parts of
it were simply forgive me a parallel universe of things
that are simply not true.

Speaker 18 (37:52):
For the record, the economy that he was left by
President Biden was not a catastrophe. It was leave the
best economy in the world. I was described by the
Economist magazine as the envy of the world. That was
the economy that was left to Donald Trump by Joe Biden.

Speaker 19 (38:10):
I hope he lives and the life he wants to live.
He wants to be a cop. He knows what he
wants to do, and maybe when you have childhood cancer
that crystallizes for you. And I hope he has a
long life as a law enforcement officer. But I hope
he never has to defend the United States capital against
Donald Trump supporters. And if he does, I hope he
isn't one of the six who loses his life to suicide.

Speaker 3 (38:32):
That that last song by you heard from Nicole Wallace.

Speaker 1 (38:35):
Who does she have a heart greag It's imeless.

Speaker 4 (38:40):
It is.

Speaker 1 (38:41):
It's really just it's so distasteful, isn't it. I mean,
it's I hadn't heard her say that. I just I
just can't.

Speaker 3 (38:47):
She has been fried for that comment, as she should be,
and she should be.

Speaker 1 (38:51):
Yeah, there's nothing professional, there's nothing appropriate about it. It's
just so over the top. And that's Look, that's what
you know, that's that's just where they are. That that's
the state of things. I mean, you can't say, like
I just heard in that montage. You know, he inherited
one of the best economies in all the world. That's
what the economist said. It was the greatest economy. We're
forty forty four days, forty five days in whatever it is. Well,

(39:14):
you can't then pivot and say it's all a disaster
and it's Trump's fault. There's nothing that you could do
in forty five days. It could turn the greatest economy
in the world of which he inherited into what they're
trying to describe the economy as today. This is the
economy that is Coleman. You know, there's a compounding effect
year after year of Biden, and you're not going to

(39:35):
pivot and get out of that overnight. And so we're
still seeing the effects of that. But you can, as
a Democrat say it was the best we'd ever had
in the world, and in the last forty four days
he's ruined it all. You can say it, but it
just doesn't have any credibility.

Speaker 3 (39:50):
And the Economist magazine, which is a British publication, a
very liberal British publication, what do you think they would say?

Speaker 1 (39:58):
Yeah, of course course, here, what do they know?

Speaker 3 (40:02):
All right, we want to get to your calls now
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Speaker 1 (40:19):
It's like Trump took a sledgehammer to the Democrats last night.
Shainsaw took that sledgehammer. Boy, he sure to checked him out. Yeah,
he torched him last night. It was beautiful.

Speaker 3 (40:30):
Yeah, alright, your calls and comments right now, you're on
the Rod and Greg Show. Eight eight eight five seven
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dial pound two fifty and say, hey, Ron, let's go.

Speaker 1 (40:40):
To the phones, and let's go to Rick in Alpine. Rick,
welcome to the Rod and Greg Show. What are your
thoughts about last night's speech?

Speaker 6 (40:47):
Hey?

Speaker 12 (40:47):
Thanks, you guys do a good job.

Speaker 3 (40:49):
Thank you, thank you.

Speaker 20 (40:51):
A couple of comments, what the Democrat I'm a hardcore Republican.
What the Democrats did last night was awesome. That kind
of behavior nudge his people to the right, So let.

Speaker 2 (41:03):
Him do it.

Speaker 1 (41:04):
I know, I'm with you, I'm with.

Speaker 12 (41:06):
You, but but but last night was not the low
of the low for me.

Speaker 4 (41:11):
The low of the low in that kind.

Speaker 20 (41:13):
Of setting was Nancy Pelosi ripping up Trump to the Union. Well,
he was speaking, and she was flailing her arms around,
ripping up his speech. And it gave me great pleasure
to have them last night pan in on Nancy Pelosi,
and I thought to myself, there is an old woman
whose time is so freaking passion. Goodness.

Speaker 1 (41:39):
All right, Rick, if I like I'm picking up what
he's putting down, man, he is.

Speaker 3 (41:46):
So spot on, you know. And remember that time she
just ripped up his speech? The ultimate who so sad?
All right, back to the phones.

Speaker 1 (41:54):
Let's go to Andrew and Draper. Andrew, Welcome to the
Riding Greg Show.

Speaker 21 (41:59):
Hey, thanks for taking my call. I thought this was
one of his best speeches. You know, in the past
speeches he did, he'd bring up petty points like, oh,
the election was stolen in twenty twenty or whatnot. I
thought last night it was a speech of a leader
who is making common sense business decisions for our country
and not political decisions. And yeah, he gave jobs to

(42:20):
the Democrats, which they well deserved in my opinion, But
I just thought it was a great speech.

Speaker 1 (42:26):
I too, I couldn't agree more. I'll tell you, Andrew
that those barbs are so well deserved that they don't
even feel so partisan anymore, because I think the common
sense Americans are all together.

Speaker 3 (42:37):
Yeah, you know what as well, Andrew, Greg and I
were back at the Republican National Convention in Milwaukee this
past summer, and we were there when Trump spoke, and
we watched him on the teleprompter. He would go off
the teleprompter in a second. It would be gone for
several minutes before he came back to the teleprompter. He
stuck to this teleprompter last night, except for an occasional

(42:58):
drop a little dig I think that worked well for him. Andrew,
did you I agree, Yeah.

Speaker 21 (43:03):
One hundred percent agree. And I think that the public agreed.
I mean I saw he had a seventy six percent
ratings speech from a CBS ball which I mean, I
think that speaks volumes.

Speaker 3 (43:13):
Boy, it sure does. All right, Andrew, thank you. Back
to the phones we go.

Speaker 1 (43:16):
Let's go to Jack Cottonwood Heights. Jack, welcome to the
Welcome to the program.

Speaker 2 (43:22):
Thank you.

Speaker 10 (43:23):
Right as I remember, the Republicans stood when President Biden
walked into the chambers when he was president, and the
Democrats sat the entire time last night. It reminded me
of the line from Saving Private Lion Ryan, you salute
the rank, not the man. And the Democrats disgusted me

(43:48):
last night with the way they did not salute the
rank of president, not just because it was Trump.

Speaker 3 (43:57):
Yeah, Jack, I think you're talking about the series band Brothers,
and you're right at the end you salute the rank
and not the Burdon brother. Yeah, it was right, very
good point.

Speaker 10 (44:08):
Cha, Captains Obel and Major Winders, you're exactly right.

Speaker 3 (44:13):
All right, all right, Jack, thank you. Let's go back
to the phones. John is in Salt Lake City this
afternoon on the Rodden Greg Show. John, how are you?
Thanks for joining us, dude, how are you doing wrong?

Speaker 4 (44:23):
Are you doing Greg good?

Speaker 13 (44:26):
Hey?

Speaker 4 (44:26):
I just want to say that, you know, with that
speech last night that Trump gave, it was so enjoyable.
He did such an awesome job. He's laying down everything
he's done, and no wonder took an hour and a half.
Look at all he's done. Hen't doing the last time
and a half. But you know, here's here's what I'm
thinking while he's while he's doing this, he's only been
an office for I mean forty five days. He's got

(44:46):
three years and ten and a half months to go. Yes,
and this is what he's done already. Yeah, you know,
it's it's no president has ever even come close. So yeah,
it's enjoyable. It's just it's really enjoyable. It's such a
relief that he made it into office. And you know, yeah,
it's gonna be good.

Speaker 6 (45:06):
It's going to be good.

Speaker 3 (45:08):
It will be John, And you're right, he is more confident.
You can just see him. He's confident. He knows what
he wants to do, and he has the support of
the American people. And I think the American people. You know,
I didn't pull this audio, but someone was out in
the field last night. I think it was in Wisconsin, right,
talk to several people. You know what they said, we're

(45:28):
all pulling for the guy. Yeah, because by pulling for
Donald Trump, you're pulling for America. And I think that's
what that speech was all about last night. Come along
with me, Come along for this ride. Look what we've
done so far, this is why we've done it, and
now here's where we're headed.

Speaker 1 (45:45):
So this is the CBS News you Gov poll right
after the speech. So these are flash polls. They do
this after the state's union's over seventy seven percent rode
support his plan to cut government waste and spending. Seventy
seven percent back his immigration and border pole. Seventy six
percent approve of Trump's speech, seventy six percent approve of
removing congressman who interrupted his speech, so core his speech

(46:08):
was presidential. Seventy four percent believed his speech was presidential.
Seventy three percent support his stance on Russia and Ukraine.
Sixty eight percent said it made them feel hopeful and proud.
Sixty eight percent said he has a clear plan to
tackle the inflation, sixty eight percent said he has accurately
described America's crime crisis, and finally, sixty three percent say

(46:30):
he focused on issues that they care about. And I'm
going to tell you those numbers cannot when you're doing
a general poll, that cannot be all Republicans. It's statistically impossible.
That is what you just said. That is the American
people pulling for this president. And I'd like to know.
You know, I've watched a lot of state unions, but
I'm kind of a nerd that way. I'm kind of
a wonk okay, everyday people they don't stop necessarily to

(46:52):
watch it. I don't know that it's a ratings you know,
it's not like the Super Bowl. Yes, yeah, so I
would love to know what. I know that this was
the highest ratings of any cable network show that Fox
reported at over ten million. But I'm wondering how many
people watch the City Union, maybe for the first time,
from beginning to end. How many people watched where they
had not ever watched it like that before.

Speaker 3 (47:13):
I just raised my arm.

Speaker 1 (47:14):
I wasn't gonna doubt yet.

Speaker 3 (47:15):
I was there from beginning to the end.

Speaker 1 (47:17):
No, you watched that, But how many have ever watched,
never watched one before, watching this one this time, Like
that's what I want, Like I knew you watched it
from beginning then, but who has not watched them as
a matter of habit, just not watching not watching them really,
but tuned into this one because the American people are
behind him and wanted to hear this one uniquely versus
ones in the past. I think that's it. I think
I'd like to know that.

Speaker 3 (47:38):
Eight eight eight five seven eight zero one zero eight
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to the President's address to a joint session of Congress
last night. Also your reaction to the democratic behavior. Democrats
are getting a lot of critic for how they reacted

(48:01):
during the speech last night.

Speaker 2 (48:03):
What do you say?

Speaker 3 (48:04):
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or on your cell phone, I'll pe them two to
fifty and say hey.

Speaker 1 (48:09):
Ron, let's go back to the phones and let's go
to team Greg. Okay, it seems to be a lot
of good Greg's. I'd like to call in, Greg, Welcome
to the show from Bluffdale. Welcome to the Ronning Greg Show.

Speaker 4 (48:21):
Yes, can you hear me?

Speaker 1 (48:23):
Yes, sir.

Speaker 4 (48:26):
I'd like to thank Rod for getting on the air
and telling it the way it is. We can't thank
you in that fine I've loved listening to you for
years and your message in a way you remind me
of Paul Harvey. You got a pretty good message, but
your voice and the way you deliver it makes it

(48:49):
really interesting.

Speaker 3 (48:50):
Well, that's a very nice thank you very much, very
much compliment.

Speaker 1 (48:55):
What'd you think of the speech last night?

Speaker 4 (48:57):
Great job?

Speaker 3 (48:58):
What'd you think of the speech last night?

Speaker 4 (49:01):
I thought the speech was fantastic. I'm a I'm a
proud conservative, white guys religious. I'm proud to say that
wonderful speech. I'm sure glad they threw that green character out.
You just can't let him. You just can't let them

(49:23):
keep misbehaving.

Speaker 1 (49:26):
No, you can't.

Speaker 3 (49:27):
You can't. Greg, You're you're a spot on. You can't,
you know, And Mike Johnson was quick to recognize it.
He understood the rules of the House and he is
quick to get rid of them. Yeah, because he would
have gone he would have gone on forever.

Speaker 1 (49:38):
He would have.

Speaker 2 (49:39):
Yeah, he would have.

Speaker 1 (49:39):
Let's keep going to us, keep going back to our phones.
Go to Carter, who is on I fifteen this afternoon. Carter,
Welcome to the Roddy greg Show.

Speaker 6 (49:48):
Hey, thank you very much for having me. Hey about
the speech last night, Me and my wife loved it.
A few things that I'd like to take away from it.
Those I can't believe that the Democrats did not stand
for all the awesome things that the young man who
got to you know, the police and the families in that.

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I can't believe not they didn't stand for that. But
one thing I did I want to take away from,
you know, looking back at it, is I didn't think
President Trump needed to call that senator or you know, pocahoness.
I really think that he's a classier man than that.
But I could see his frustration. But with all the

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things that was going on with the Democrats, I just
don't I just don't think he needed to do that.

Speaker 1 (50:36):
But the rest of it was awesome, fair enough, you know,
there's a it's a good it's a good observation. I
you know, they even Fetterman said that if the way
the Democrats acted it that It showed him almost showing
restraint and looking more presidential, so that even when he
did make that comment about Elizabeth Warren, it almost didn't
feel as sharp because he had been putting up with

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so much from the from Democrats in that chamber for
so long.

Speaker 3 (51:02):
But I think Gregor was done in a joking manner
kind of because you know, he's how long has it
been since you know who originally called her polg honess?
Was it Trump? I think it was, you know, And
she laughed, she was clapping it, laughed a little bit
at it, So I think it was a little bit
of funny.

Speaker 1 (51:20):
I thought she was. She handled it real well, she
had good you know, she was good natured about it.
She was laughing and clapping.

Speaker 3 (51:26):
So, but I can understand how that can turn some
people off.

Speaker 2 (51:29):
I get it.

Speaker 3 (51:29):
All right, Let's go back to the phones. Let's talk
with Brennan in Bountiful tonight. Brendan, Welcome to the Rod
and greg Show.

Speaker 22 (51:37):
Hey, thanks for taking my call, you guys, you're welcome.

Speaker 7 (51:40):
Hey.

Speaker 6 (51:40):
So, I just had a quick point on this.

Speaker 22 (51:43):
I find it ridiculous that these people are not showing
up to devote, They're not standing and applauding the average
American citizen. I mean, we had a fourteen year old
boy out there that just beat brain cancer and was
actively fighting it. I think that's something that every American
should be to get behind and realize that we're trying
to improve these people's lives. And it seems like there's

(52:05):
just a disconnect there from from the Democrat Party. I
don't think that they're the people that voted them into
office are much happy with the way that they're handling
this either.

Speaker 3 (52:14):
Brendan, do you think the hate for Donald Trump runs
that deep in some Democrats? Seems to me it does.
Would you agree or disagree?

Speaker 4 (52:25):
Absolutely?

Speaker 22 (52:26):
I think this is a severe case of Trump arrangement syndrome.
I think that these people care more about who's behind
the microphone than what he's accomplishing. And I think that's
dangerous president to.

Speaker 3 (52:36):
Set Yeah, sure is sure, is all right? Brendan, Thank you?

Speaker 1 (52:40):
I agree. I agree, I concur I think I think
everything he said is the case true.

Speaker 3 (52:46):
Yeah, and they and they're they're dislike for this guy.

Speaker 2 (52:49):
Greg.

Speaker 3 (52:49):
I don't know what you know. I have a brother
and a sister in law who lived back in Syracuse,
New York. Right, Yeah, I can't even engage in a
conversation with them. Their hate for Donald Trump is so deep,
and they're they're always going on Facebook and social media
and ripping them and you know, I don't even dare
ask them, why why do you hate the guy?

Speaker 7 (53:11):
You know?

Speaker 1 (53:11):
And here's the deal. I like, if you get on
social media and things, the Trump derangement syndrome class, they
just they find everything to criticize, and they just go
on and on. And then when you're when you're when
I'm making observations where I think that Trump's doing some
good things, that he's a great leader, they criticize me
and say I'm gaslighting that, Oh yes, I'm spinning it,
and that it's an echo chamber of those.

Speaker 2 (53:33):
That like it.

Speaker 1 (53:34):
Well, this speech set, you know, seventy seventy six percent
of Americans supported this, this speech. I think it's a
heck of an echo chamber. Don't you think it's pretty big?
I think it's a pretty big echo chamber. So suious,
they can't accept it, They cannot accept that they're on
the wrong side of this and his presidency, his issues.
They can't they can't handle it.

Speaker 3 (53:55):
They are so afraid to say, all right, let's see
what we see if we can find common ground. They
don't even want to find common ground on any of these.

Speaker 1 (54:04):
The man has one term. You don't have to worry
that he's gonna get reelected you if you got something
done on his watch, because he has one term. So
it just shows it's not even worried that it'll stick
around longer if he has success, he's got one term
to goe And so yeah, it is quite the display.

Speaker 3 (54:20):
All right, more of your calls and comments coming up.
It is the Rod and Greg Show with you right
here on Utah's Talk Radio one O five to nine
K and R. As you know, all right, we're getting
your calls and getting your reaction to the President's speech
last night. Now, much of the criticism today, rightfully so,
always being directed toward the Democrats and their behavior during
the address last night. Well, the White House today, during

(54:42):
their daily briefing with the news media, had some thoughts
on what happened last night. Here's Carolyn Levitt as she
talked about the democrats behavior.

Speaker 23 (54:50):
The behavior of Democrats last night was completely disgraceful and
demonstrated how severely out of touch they are with the
American public. It was the most shameful moment in the
history of presidential addresses in that beautiful chamber, and what
was supposed to be a unifying moment for our country,
Democrat members of Congress instead screamed at the President of

(55:12):
the United States, who was just overwhelmingly re elected by
their constituents, walked out of the chamber, and worst of all,
they disrespected the American people. Democrats didn't stand to keep
men out of women's sports. They couldn't even clap for
a girl who got her head smashed in by a
man on a volleyball court. Democrats didn't stand for an

(55:33):
innocent and beautiful child who is surviving brain cancer. They
opposed eliminating taxes on tips in Social Security. They didn't
stand in favor of cutting taxes for hard working Americans.
They couldn't even clap for two mothers whose daughters were
killed by illegal aliens. One of the only things that
could get Democrats off their feet last night was cheering

(55:54):
for Ukraine, not for America.

Speaker 3 (55:57):
Wow, was she laid it on the line.

Speaker 1 (55:59):
Didn't she for Ukraine? But spending, spending, spending, spending. Let's
go to our phones, listen to the smartest listening audience
and all the land. Let's go to kJ from Sandy kJ.
Welcome to the Running Greg Show.

Speaker 4 (56:12):
Hey, guys, I didn't expect to get on and I
get so staying nervous on the radio.

Speaker 1 (56:19):
The family.

Speaker 4 (56:21):
Yeah. I don't know what it is about that knowing
that I might be on the radio, but man, it's
it's kind of scary. But hey, I watching that. And
over the last couple of years, what I've noticed the
most is that this country, for the most part, has
been it's always been as bipartisan as possible and have
healthy debate. There's a left and the right. We try

(56:43):
to meet in the middle. But what I'm seeing with
with Trump getting in there and everything that just on
the left, how there's a right and a wrong now
that is just so glaringly obvious. And there's a lot
of religions out there that talk about unrecognizable forms of

(57:06):
evil and I think, I think, I think we're seeing
those times.

Speaker 7 (57:10):
And uh, it's just just from.

Speaker 4 (57:13):
Watching that left side last night, it was just uh,
jaw dropping, startling. Actually, you know what, these people didn't
learn anything from this election, and they're out there lurking
or one batt election away from uh that again.

Speaker 3 (57:33):
So anyway, kJ, by the way, but hey, hey kJ,
you've done good. You've done good man, You've done good. kJ.

Speaker 2 (57:46):
Thank you.

Speaker 3 (57:47):
Back to the phones we go.

Speaker 1 (57:48):
Let's go to Jeff and Tila. Jeff, welcome to the
Rod and Greg Show.

Speaker 12 (57:52):
Thank you last night.

Speaker 7 (57:54):
What I like best about that that Trump's speech was
when he was talking about the d O J and
he said that he was gonna keep aware the dear
Jaden go against his political opponents. And then he looked
over at the Democrats and he said, how's that working
for you?

Speaker 3 (58:10):
I remember that good line.

Speaker 1 (58:13):
That is pretty good. That is pretty good now and
he means it. You know, we're not gonna have him
go after political opponents, even you know, even if the Democrats.

Speaker 6 (58:22):
Like do that.

Speaker 3 (58:23):
Yeah, Jeff, Jeff, good call. By the way, I had
never seen the president before, and I haven't watched every
one of them, more of the ears. But he called
out Bobby Kenny. He said, Bobby Kenny, you got a
job to do, you know. He called out he called
out Pam Bondy, Pam, you got a job to do.
He called out Marco. He said, Marco doing a great job.
But you got a job to do it. He had

(58:43):
a little fun and that's what made it so interesting
to watch. I was telling you, my wife typically is
not really politically involved, which is fine. I love her dearly. Right,
she sat down for the whole thing last night. She laughed.
She was touched by the you know, the the the
interaction with the regular people there. I mean, she really
was touched last night. And I think there are a
lot of Americans out there who wanted to see what

(59:05):
the guy had to say. They're pulling for Donald Trump
because they honestly believed Greg he's.

Speaker 1 (59:10):
Pulling for us, that's right, and that story. I just
think that is emblematic. I think that is what's happened.
That's what happened last night with a lot of Americans.
They wanted to hear from them directly. We watched the clips,
we watched speeches, we watched campaigns, but this was an
address to Congress and they wanted to hear them. And
it's a I think it's a completely different feel. The

(59:31):
strength of this president Trumps president now, the experience he's had,
the understanding of the job, and the times we're living in.
I just think it's I do think we're living through
history right now. I think we're pretty fortunate to even
have a radio program that can talk about this every
single day. We are really talking about historic moments. Yes,
in this course correction that we're seeing in real time.

(59:52):
That I was worried we would work very hard towards
but I didn't know what we would see, and I
think we're seeing a lot of positive. There's measurable differences already.

Speaker 3 (01:00:02):
I think for about eighty percent of the country right now, Greg,
there's a pretty good vibe out there.

Speaker 1 (01:00:07):
I agree. Yeah, I absolutely do.

Speaker 3 (01:00:08):
Twenty percent. You can sit on your hands all you want.
The eighty percent of us, we're moving forward.

Speaker 4 (01:00:14):
Yeah.

Speaker 1 (01:00:14):
If you again, like kJ said, the evil, If you
can't stand up for these people struck with cancer and
the different stories, there's something wrong.

Speaker 3 (01:00:21):
Hardy come on the Rotting Greg Show to stay with us.
I have to admit this. We made a mistake. Now,
we don't make mistakes very often.

Speaker 1 (01:00:32):
I don't know. I don't know if you're dragging me
into your mistake. How do you agree with me on this? Which?

Speaker 7 (01:00:36):
What was it?

Speaker 3 (01:00:37):
Well, we falsely claimed that it was Donald Trump. You
gave Elizabeth Warren the label of the fondest, but we
were We were corrected by one of our great listeners.

Speaker 1 (01:00:47):
Smartest listeners and all the land said it said in
a what do they call them community notes or whatever?
On X when you get the truth. Yeah, it was
the great, the late and great Rush Limbo. Yeah, he
coined the phrase pocon Colizabeth pencil. Next ship is another
one that.

Speaker 3 (01:01:08):
What did he call McConnell turtlehead or turtle face?

Speaker 1 (01:01:12):
What do you call he called? He called Cmo Fredo
the big dummy from the godam Mo other.

Speaker 3 (01:01:19):
So we apologize to our audience. We did make a mistake.
Rush wherever you are, we hope up and doing a
radio show there that we apologize for missing out on that.

Speaker 1 (01:01:29):
And thank you to our listeners for correcting us. And
Rod leads me astray. I appreciate that.

Speaker 3 (01:01:36):
It was hilarious last night when the President talked about
immigration and he said, you know, they wanted to do
all this legislation, spend all this money, and you know
immigration numbers are way down, and the only thing that
changed we have a new president, new president. Well, let's
talk about immigration right now. My next guest has wrote
a has written a terrific article. His name is a Ghost.

(01:01:58):
May Raw a Ghost is a senior editor at The Everyman,
also a good tributor at The Federalist. He wrote about
new immigrants are struggling to assimilate and guess what we're
all paying for. Let's bring it on the show right
now with Goost. How are you welcome back to the
rod and great show.

Speaker 12 (01:02:15):
Thank you for having me. I'm glad to be here.

Speaker 3 (01:02:17):
Goots. What's going on with the assimilation of people? What
do you see out there either taking place or not
taking place?

Speaker 4 (01:02:26):
Well?

Speaker 12 (01:02:26):
I was, yeah, I was commenting on a report saying
that the immigrants coming into the country, at least the
millions that have come in during Biden's administration, are less
educated and in more need of instruction and schooling. And
so I give my own input, and yeah, there's a
lot of work that needs to be done, not only
for the adults that come in obviously you're kind of

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limited in what you can do, but they're children who
enter the school system and this is a huge cost
for a lot of communities, local and state.

Speaker 1 (01:02:56):
You know, you're exactly right. I have a sister in
law who works in a public school, and there have
been occasions where immigrants have been brought in in mass
and you'll see it in a school. Children arrive where
English is a second language and that language is not
a common language. Its not like it's just Spanish and
you have to It takes your individual education plans that

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teachers are supposed to be implementing for students. It takes
everything that they're doing and creates absolute chaos. You have
some where these NGOs that people bring their children by
uber and the mothers stay because they're not they're not
they're not assimilate. They don't know that there's the kids.
The children's post stay at school by themselfs. So you
have these people that are there. It's that kind of

(01:03:39):
chaos with no advanced notice that this is going to come.
That's the experience that I've seen just here in Utah.
Have you Are you aware of circumstances like that that
are happening around the country.

Speaker 12 (01:03:52):
Yeah, No, it's very common here in Texas where I'm at.
You know, in the Dallas area, you have a lot
of kids coming from all with the world. I mean
obviously from south of the border, so a lot of
them are Spanish speakers, and there's a whole infrastructure for that.
And that's kind of what I was trying to explain,
is that all this stuff, I mean, we could work
with these kids, but it requires a lot of supplements,

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a lot of scaffolding. And you know, if we're talking about,
you know, trying to fix this issue, I mean, we're
not going to be able to do it with the
resources we have now. If Democrats want to you know,
open the border and keep this influx of migrants coming in,
then we're going to have to come up with a
way of assimilating and teaching these people. And you're right,

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you do have like communities from like Haiti for instance.
You know, you don't have a lot of French speakers.
I happen to be one, but you know, we don't
have a lot of French speakers for ESL type of instruction.
And then you know, we had a community from like
Southeast Asia that just kind of randomly was placed in
this one school nearby, and so again and sometimes even

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there from Mexico and they don't speak Spanish, they see
like some kind of Mayan dialects, you know, and so
you're you're just kind of up a creek and you're
just trying to you know, you're trying to work with
these kids, and again, this requires professionals. This requires multiple
professionals assigned to maybe just one kid, and it gets
very expensive and just very intensive.

Speaker 3 (01:05:18):
Go do you you write about what may happen to
the American dream for these people? You're write about the
fact they may learn a few scraps of English, do
honors work, but you know they aren't going to they
aren't going to be able to really live the American dream.
What's going to happen to them?

Speaker 12 (01:05:34):
Do you think, well, they become a permanent underclass. I mean,
that's that's the sad reality. A lot of the kids
they don't well, they don't get a complete education. You know,
they come in when they're in their teens. We may
have them for a year or two, or we might
try to keep them as long as we can, but
they just drop out and they may try to start
working with you know, in a family business. They might

(01:05:55):
just go into kind of crime stuff. I mean, I've
worked with all these types kids, so and you know,
some do go through the program and that they just
really struggle because there's no support at home. And so
I mean the ESL program, you know, I admire what
they do. I mean, there's some success stories and it's great,
but for every success story, there's you know, fifty to

(01:06:16):
one hundred not success stories. And these are just kids
that kind of fade into again just kind of these
very you know, low skill labor type of work or
you know, again illegal work.

Speaker 1 (01:06:27):
You know, with Biden administration, the saying that every state
became a border state really became true. And I and
and so the the awareness or even empathy of what
harm or what impact communities feel when NGOs bring in
and you see a lot of refugees immigrants that come
into an unprepared community. My question is you're an English

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teacher and you kind of you do you think this
is just good intentions gone awry? Or is there something
draconian and something dangerous that's being attempted by the Democrats
who open these borders and really don't want to see
it enforced. What's the endgame? Are they just are they
just meaning well but they're just incompetent or is there
something worse going on?

Speaker 12 (01:07:11):
I mean, I think it's a mix of both. But no,
I mean, it's obviously very empowering to bring in this
huge population of people. I mean the USL program. You
don't mess with them. I mean, that's just the reality.
And of course they're very progressive in the politics. And yeah,
of course there's a pipeline from you know, coming into
the country and then becoming a voter. I mean in

(01:07:33):
Texas it's not great, but I mean I know, states
like California or even Arizona, you know, there there are
not a lot of obstacles to kind of establishing that.
And I do think there's there, there are their interests
being served. I mean, there are people, you know, and
I've heard it's like, oh, well, you know, we don't
want them all to be going to college. We need

(01:07:54):
the people doing kind of the dumb, dumb work that
we can pay less money to. And I mean, and
you know, I don't support that kind of thing. I
want everybody have an opportunity. I don't want a permanent underclass.
And I mean I'm not an employer that kind of
benefits from that. But I'm sure, no, I'm sure some
of this is purposeful and you know, and not the scale.
I mean, the scale has just increased so massively, like

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the good intentions that used to be there. I mean,
you can't fulfill it, and it does become kind of
malicious goes.

Speaker 3 (01:08:23):
You're right about a couple of options, But what is
the best option for this other than sending them home
to their home country? But is there an option to
hear if they stay in the country.

Speaker 12 (01:08:33):
Well, I think you got to exercise a lot of things.
I mean, I think you do have to kind of
escalate deportation, and I do think you need to start
establishing criteria. If somebody has potential to really learn and assimilate,
then yeah, we might have an interest in kind of
putting it in a program. But if a person is

(01:08:53):
either too old or just not very motivated to learn
anything and they they're happy to be part of the
criminal class or under class, they should be deported. I mean,
so we should kind of start assessing the migrants that
are here. And granted, I mean, I know all illegals
at some level should be deported, but I mean just

(01:09:14):
on a realistic, pragmatic level, No, we should strive to
kind of really see like who's going to make it
and who's not going to make it, and just proceed accordingly.
And I don't think that's being done at all or
just kind of being indiscriminate the terms of who we
take in and who we try to teach.

Speaker 3 (01:09:31):
I goes Zo. Always great having you on the show.
Thanks for joining us tonight, and good luck down there
in Dallas.

Speaker 1 (01:09:37):
Thank you, thanks much, thanks for being that show.

Speaker 3 (01:09:39):
All right on our newsmaker line. That's a ghost may Raw.
He is an English teacher and a contributor to the
Federalist When we come back, Greg. This was an article
in one of the media websites here in Utah. Today.
A new poll is out as to how Utah's feel
toward illegal immigrants. Rather interesting numbers out there. How Utah does, Yeah,
how Utah does? Very interested in just see what they

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have to say. All right, that's coming up on the
Wingman Wednesday edition of The Rotten Greg Show right here
on Utah's Talk Radio one oh five nine k NRS.

Speaker 1 (01:10:10):
I don't know why I was thinking that. Why was
that in my music? I don't understand. It's the Rod
and Greg Show on this Wingman Wednesday edition on Talk
Radio one five nine cannis.

Speaker 3 (01:10:20):
All right, we were talking talking a minute ago with
a ghost to Mayra. He is an English teacher and
a senior editor at The Everyman, also a contributor to
the Federalists talking about assimilation of people who are in
this country, either legally or illegally, and as he was
pointing out over the Biden years, Greg, the illegals who

(01:10:42):
have come into this country are not well educated, right,
They're not well educated. So guess so it falls upon
to educate them our public schools, the American taxpayer, right,
And he said he's having trouble. I saw this story today,
I think it was in the does Red News on
their website. They took a look, Greg at how do

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uton's feel about immigration in this country today and in
this state? All right, here's what they found. I'll get
your reaction to it. What impact, if any, does undocumented
immigration have on public safety in your area? Nine percent
said they feel more safe, forty eight percent almost have

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said they feel left safe, thirty one percent say no impact,
and twelve percent say they don't know. But forty eight
percent of those questions feel that their communities are left
safe because of illegal immigrants in this country.

Speaker 1 (01:11:38):
And that's the general is a state wide pole, Yeah,
state white pole. Well that it's actually fundamentally unfair. I mean, look,
every community I believe is impacted. I mean, we have
there's actually task forces right now with gang units and
with the DEA and ICE that are dealing with gangs.
That is county wide, Salt Lake County wide, and really

(01:11:59):
state wide. So that you know, the forty eight percent
is a high percentage when you talk about a statewide,
but there are particular communities in this state that are
extremely impacted.

Speaker 3 (01:12:09):
What's point on Inhareman?

Speaker 1 (01:12:10):
That's that?

Speaker 3 (01:12:11):
What have you heard? I mean, we talked about this
several months ago about the challenges and the Venzuhaling gang,
which reportedly was not in the state. Come to find
out it was. What's going on Inhareman? What are you hearing?

Speaker 1 (01:12:22):
So I have I think I've been hearing that things
are simmering down and that you're starting to see some
people leave, even self deport really because of the arrival
of President Trump in the White House, and so there's
apartments for rent for the first time that people are
spotting in Herreman, which they haven't seen for quite some time.
It's still a problem though, and I think if you

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were to pull some of these more impacted areas, you
have a general sentiment of forty eight percent, but you're
going to find some of these communities a lot, lot
higher percentage here in the state, in the inland state
of Utah, Mountain state of Utah higher than that, which
again we have the predominant faith in Utah is really
pro immigration, pro refugee and helping and we have like
service missionaries or missionaries that help with this, and there's

(01:13:07):
been a lot and you know, we have Catholic community
services that work on this. But so there's a culture
that wants to be inviting. But I think we've been
bit I think that there's been a lot of a
lot of harm that's created to our public schools. And
when you say that that our taxpayers paid for the
education and all the challenges coming, what's what compounds that
is the education that our kids are not receiving because

(01:13:29):
the teachers and the faculty and everyone has to spend
so much resource and time on a challenge they didn't
know was coming and they are having to deal with that.
And that means that the children whose Individual Education Plan,
the IEPs, the special education is not being attended to
because they have a real problem, the real challenges that
arrived one day that and they had no runway, no planning,

(01:13:51):
no budget for it. And so boom it happens. And
so the status part for me is that you're seeing
a lot of students that are being neglected and because
of this crisis that is not of their own making.
And so that's that's an impact that I think will
continue to talk about.

Speaker 3 (01:14:07):
Another impact, if any do undocumented immigrants have an impact
on the economy. Here in the state of Utah, twenty
nine percent said it improves the economy the more the
ones that want to hire the cheap labor. Yeah, that's right.
Forty four percent say it hurts the economy, ten percent
no impact, sixteen percent they don't know. But you're right, really,

(01:14:28):
how does I don't understand how to improve the economy
other than, as you pointed out, cheap labor.

Speaker 1 (01:14:33):
Yeah, if you can get slave labor, boy, I think
you're you know, the economy at least the cost of
things might go down. But that's not We really shouldn't
be subscribing to that. Those percentages forty eight let's say
forty four herds the economy. Those are the highest percentages
because someone could listen to those and go, well, less
than that means a majority don't concur No, you have
some that don't know. You have a small number that

(01:14:55):
think it's okay, But those are the highest percentage of
those polled by far are that think that the economies
that were less safe and that the economy is armed
here in the state of Utah, state wide, state wide,
even not. I mean, like I said, you get to
certain places, you get that number a lot higher because
they're feeling it more acutely.

Speaker 3 (01:15:13):
Well, you're right, you don't. And I'm not sure after
this address last night, Greig, where Donald Trump's efforts turn to. Now,
I mean, He's focused entirely on well not entirely, but
a lot on immigration, and it's had a huge impact
on immigration. Does it is it? Is it time he

(01:15:34):
can pivot a little bit and now look at the economy.

Speaker 1 (01:15:38):
Well there there. I think they're intertwined, really I do.
I think I think you have to get you have
to keep your foot on the gas. I do believe
that eight thousand border crossings in a given month, I
don't have the influx anymore. So I think we're starting
to see that change. And now you have to and
they put incentives out there for people to self support
because it will not if they leave, they will have

(01:16:00):
an opportunity to come back legally, and they want to
work on that. They want to have you know walls
or you know border walls, but they want to have gates.
They want to have gates. A gate, yeah, a tall wall,
but a wide gate. Well, they're saying that they're trying
to incentivize people to self deport by saying, if you
came here illegally, if you came here, go back to
your home of origin and then apply to come in
because we want to get that. We want to be

(01:16:21):
more efficient with that. So I think that's going to
happen a little bit. But I still think that of
the dangerous, the gangs, the people that the car tells,
I think that there's so much work still to be done.
I honestly, I hate to say it, but I think
there is probably a decade worth really that deportations and
hearings and all of that in front of us, just
just absorbing what happened in the last four years alone.

(01:16:45):
If we could get it all right going forward, we
still have I'm afraid ten years worth of damage that
has to be dealt with.

Speaker 3 (01:16:53):
Yeah, better, you're right. I mean it's going to take
some time, that's for sure. All right, we've got more
to get to here on the Rodding Greg Show with
you you on this uh Wingman Wednesday or Wednesday, two
dates to legislate. You're gonna make it, you survive, I
think so.

Speaker 1 (01:17:06):
You know, I'm always on the side of angels. I'm
just fighting for what's right. You know, I'm battling. It's
William Wallace me. We're charging the hill. Our faces are blue, freedom, freedom,
yelling freedom the whole time.

Speaker 3 (01:17:18):
Two more days to go.

Speaker 1 (01:17:19):
Let me down a lot over there sometimes like my goodness,
we I want, I just want. Then we're going to
election bill. I don't even recognize that.

Speaker 3 (01:17:26):
What has happened to this election bill?

Speaker 1 (01:17:28):
It was supposed to be so good. We just wanted photo.
You just wanted to need to have a legal idea
to vote. That's it. It wasn't even harder than that.
Just that this thing now four digits on your driver's license.
We got to get stuck with this signature software. They're
overthinking it. Yeah, maybe maybe anyway, all.

Speaker 3 (01:17:45):
Right Moore coming up on the Wingman Wednesday edition of
the Rotting Greg Show right here on Utah's Talk Radio
one oh five nine.

Speaker 1 (01:17:52):
Can rass got a lot to go still on the show.
But exciting, exciting guest we have around yea.

Speaker 3 (01:17:57):
Yeah, really good guest. And he wrote in ed piece
in the in the Wall Street Journal of a day
or two ago, and we picked up on this. That's
why we wanted to get him on the show. You know,
how long has it been, Greg since kind of COVID ended,
if it ever did, really before?

Speaker 1 (01:18:13):
You're getting in March of twenty two, I think twenty
three we started starting. We were getting out of this some.

Speaker 3 (01:18:19):
Of the stupid things that took place during then. Well,
joining us on our newsmaker line is doctor Scott Atliss.
He is a senior fellow at the Hoover Institute there
at Stanford University, very involved in the debate over COVID
during the time it was getting all of the attention
here in America. And he wrote this obed piece say
basically saying the headline is America still needs a COVID recogning.

(01:18:42):
Doctor Atliss, how are you welcome to the Rodden Greg Show?
Thanks for joining us, Thanks for having me. What do
you mean that we need a COVID recogning? What haven't
we done yet?

Speaker 15 (01:18:53):
Well, the problem is that and I'm very concerned about it.
There's there's silence about the COVID management, which was really,
in our lifetimes, the most tragic breakdown of leadership and
really ethical leadership in a free society. Yet somehow people
want to turn the page without any accountability, any recognition officially,

(01:19:16):
any statements of.

Speaker 2 (01:19:17):
Really what the truth was.

Speaker 15 (01:19:20):
And this is this is harmful to society to just
simply well, we're sort of issue fatigue, we're tired of it. Well,
the reason that you can't do that is, first of all,
the lockdowns, the management killed and destroyed millions of people. Okay,
it has a massive, acute and longstanding impact on our children. Okay,

(01:19:41):
we had you know, increase in suicides, massive learning loss,
but even worse than that, you know, we had all
kinds of psychological.

Speaker 2 (01:19:48):
Harms that are just not not simple to do away with.
And again, millions of people died.

Speaker 15 (01:19:54):
I mean, there's data that shows that a million extra
people died in the United States just as of twenty
twenty three mid year, and another million extra deaths from
the lockdowns, not the virus, will die over the next decade.
And in fact, many of those people are poor in women,
and so you know this is really something that society

(01:20:17):
needs to close and to get closure. I think most
people would say, you need accountability. If we ignore this
a it could happen again, because you know, many people
in power and in powerful leadership positions are still in
those positions. I'm not talking about the President and United
States here, I'm talking about throughout society, and they're going

(01:20:37):
to do this kind of stuff again. We need to
have accountability. We can't have a society and we cannot
certainly restore trust that has been lost in the medical profession,
in the public health agencies, in leadership in general. We
cannot restore trust without having people recognize and officially state
the truth.

Speaker 1 (01:20:57):
So doctor, maybe you could tell us definibly, because I
think we've spoken about it, but I don't to your point,
I don't think there's been a bright line drawn on
things like masks, because if this comes back, we don't
want to go live through the same nightmare where we've
got the equivalent of a chain link fence on our face,
where we have no shot of really, you know, preventing infection,
social distancing. I don't think that it's been defined that

(01:21:19):
this was not something or it is something that had
any impact at all, and particularly the vaccines and the
boosters for all ages. Can we land on some definitive
answers there where we can look in hindsight and say, masks,
no social distancing. None of this made a measurable difference.

(01:21:40):
The vaccines are actually harming a lot of people, including
their heart and other things. Is it that simple or
is it complicated?

Speaker 13 (01:21:47):
Give?

Speaker 1 (01:21:47):
Is there any clarity you can give us on any
of this?

Speaker 2 (01:21:50):
Yes, yes there is.

Speaker 15 (01:21:51):
I mean, this stuff is proven, Okay, none of these
things are questions. In fact, when I was speaking out
about this in spring of twenty twenty, this is not
talking about the vaccines, because they didn't exist then. But
even in spring of twenty twenty, we knew the data,
and it was already known, even sometimes for years, that
masks do not stop the spread or protect the wearer

(01:22:13):
in a viral respiratory infection.

Speaker 2 (01:22:16):
That this sole thing.

Speaker 15 (01:22:17):
About social distancing by six feet is pseudoscience. That lockdowns
are proven to not work and be extraordinarily harmful.

Speaker 2 (01:22:26):
That school closures.

Speaker 15 (01:22:28):
Were completely irrational because young healthy people don't have a
risk for a serious disease from COVID. This stuff was
proven by spring of twenty twenty, and over and over
again in summer of twenty twenty, fall of twenty twenty.
All this data is there. It's not a question. It's
not true that this stuff isn't known. In fact, I

(01:22:48):
and many other papers have been written showing this stuff.
The problem is, again it's not public knowledge. You're asking me,
you don't even know I So I'm just I mean,
this has been sort of swept.

Speaker 2 (01:23:01):
Under the rug. Nothing to see here, Let's just move on.
And again, this is this is very harmful.

Speaker 15 (01:23:07):
We can't live in a society that denies scientific fact
number one. I mean, we're supposed to be in an
ethical society. Secondly, this this was an unethical shift of
the burden to the poor people using children as somehow
we're going to inject them with experimental drugs because it's
going to stop this bread. I mean, this is we
really lost our moral compass as a society. There are

(01:23:29):
scientific facts here that people in power were never held accountable.
So yes, people like Fauci, they were grilled on the Senate,
you know, by a committee. But that's then he moves on.
I mean, there's no there is no closure here, and
I'm very concerned.

Speaker 3 (01:23:46):
Doctor anclis why did we give up so easily? Why
did we give up our liberties? Wearing a mask, social distancing,
not going to school, not going to work. Why did
we give up so easily? It seems to me we
did well.

Speaker 15 (01:23:59):
We did in fact to the United States, although there
were some protests and individuals did things, but most of
the protests against lockdowns were seen in other countries. Okay,
we're talking about Europe and elsewhere. We're a country that
was founded on you know, God given freedoms, freedom of assembly,
freedom of speech. We had the most harmful disruption of

(01:24:23):
freedom by censorship and demonization of the people who dissented,
like myself and others.

Speaker 2 (01:24:29):
And so you know, this is the question why did
we give up?

Speaker 15 (01:24:33):
And I think the answer I mentioned in my piece
really and the problem about why there's silence is because
many smart people and leadership positions were afraid and they
they simply collapsed. They what I call acquiesce to irrational
things that defied data, defied biology, defy common sense.

Speaker 2 (01:24:55):
And a lot of people understood this.

Speaker 15 (01:24:58):
I do a lot of traveling and speaking to Americans
all over the country, but this kind of cowardice of
people in leadership positions.

Speaker 2 (01:25:06):
And here I'm talking about people.

Speaker 15 (01:25:07):
That were governors, people that actually had authority, people in
public health leadership, the doctor Fauci, doctor Burke's, doctor Redfield,
head of the CDC crowd. These people, they didn't know
what they were talking about.

Speaker 2 (01:25:20):
I was there.

Speaker 15 (01:25:20):
I was an advisor to the president and sitting on
the task force for three and a half months, and
despite me bringing in all the data, they didn't know
the data.

Speaker 2 (01:25:29):
But I really think.

Speaker 15 (01:25:31):
Fear in cowardice and in part cowardice of people in
leadership positions who even knew better but were afraid to
speak up because of this very severe cancel culture that existed.

Speaker 2 (01:25:41):
So you know what we need.

Speaker 15 (01:25:43):
We need to step up and really teach younger people
particularly to be able to have the courage to speak out.

Speaker 5 (01:25:51):
Uh.

Speaker 15 (01:25:52):
And it's a very difficult thing people, you know, tip
of the spear. That wasn't very easy for myself. But
I really think if we want to restore trust in
leaders in, trust in university experts, and trust in our
people in government, we need to have this kind of
what was called racketing. And the piece, which is a

(01:26:14):
statement here I saying, okay, the new administration.

Speaker 2 (01:26:17):
We have people the new leadership and h trusts, and
then we need people to make these official statements.

Speaker 15 (01:26:26):
To tell the people the truth because we need to
have a fact based society and we need to restore trust.
And the one way to restore trust is actually tell
people what they generally believe is probably true, but they
they're still waiting to hear it.

Speaker 1 (01:26:40):
I'm so in that camp. I got my own sens
thinks so, okay, I didn't. I was fortunate enough. I
didn't get the vaccine. My family didn't. We did. We
were in circumstances where it wasn't imposed upon us, so
we didn't get it. I wore the masks when absolutely
forced to, probably flew around less because of it. But
I so I had my I had my powers of
observation or what I felt if someone I co work.

(01:27:00):
It made sense that you want to protect yourself. But
my basic questions, because I don't know that, I still
don't know the answers. Does the vaccine prevent infection? Does
it prevent the spread of wells?

Speaker 15 (01:27:12):
Yeah, I mean these questions are known. The vaccine does
not prevent getting infected.

Speaker 2 (01:27:19):
At the height of the most lethal form of the virus.

Speaker 15 (01:27:24):
Because the virus is mutated, it's changed over the time, right,
it's become much less dangerous. But in the twenty twenty
one time period when the vaccine came out, the data,
particularly from other countries like Sweden, which was a rational country,
they showed that high risk people were prevented from dying
by taking the vaccine. That's what the data showed, and
we had some of that indication in our own nursing

(01:27:46):
homes too. But you know, as the data came out
on the vaccine, it does not prevent you from getting infected.

Speaker 2 (01:27:54):
It does not prevent you from getting spread.

Speaker 15 (01:27:57):
Even at its best, it was stopping people from from
dying that were high risk. Okay, but it is a
fallacy to think that this vaccine stop people from getting
from spreading the infection. In fact, that kind of decrease
in getting infected or spread was only there for say
four to six weeks after taking the vaccine, So in

(01:28:18):
other words, it doesn't do it. Yet we were forcing
healthy people to get the vaccine with the so called
a public protection benefit, which is in theory that you
would stop others from getting it, but it doesn't do that.
So the vaccine when it had a benefit in the
early days, had a benefit for the individual taking it,
but no one else, okay, and so it wasn't the

(01:28:41):
public benefit. And yet we mandated in a country. I
mean to me, it's not a free country if you're
forced to inject a drug into yourself or your kid.

Speaker 2 (01:28:50):
I mean, this is just beyond This is common sense.
And so I think these kinds of things.

Speaker 15 (01:28:57):
And by the way, as you pointed out, there were
some people damage by the vaccine. We have a certain
percent occurrence of myocarditis in young males for instance. Okay,
that we're healthy people before him. COVID is not a
danger to healthy young people.

Speaker 2 (01:29:11):
That's a fact.

Speaker 7 (01:29:13):
Uh.

Speaker 2 (01:29:13):
And so you know, again, if we.

Speaker 15 (01:29:16):
Want to restore trust, we need some kind of an
admission of error. And it doesn't have to be a
personal admission of error, but there has to be a
recognition of truth.

Speaker 3 (01:29:24):
Yeah, that'd be nice. You're here, doctor Atliss, always Rach
chatting with you. Thank you for joining us tonight.

Speaker 1 (01:29:28):
I wrote this down. I'm just quoting you from here
on out. I know now, I know it's that.

Speaker 3 (01:29:33):
Thank you all right, doctor Scott list joining us. It's
from Stanford University talking about a recognying about COVID. I
think he's right. You know what happened here? Why did
we get this so carried away?

Speaker 1 (01:29:44):
If we don't get that right and get this as
an absolute known fact, they'll do it again. It's going
to come back again. They're going to start all these
things again on the next one.

Speaker 3 (01:29:51):
They sure will. All right, final segment of the Rod
and Greg Joe coming out. Don't forget Jesse Kelly coming
your way at the top of the hour following our
news update. Jesse will be with you right up until
ten o'clock tonight, Ground Zero with Clyde Lowis at ten
and then Coast to Coast I mean your way that's
coming that starts at eleve. You're listens to that show

(01:30:11):
late at night. You never listen to Coast to Coast.

Speaker 1 (01:30:14):
They talk about UFOs sometimes.

Speaker 3 (01:30:17):
Not all the time. I think it's kind of an
interesting show. You're up late at night and I have
kind anything to do. Listen to Coast to Coast. Don't
give me that look. Well, that discussed.

Speaker 4 (01:30:29):
You know.

Speaker 1 (01:30:29):
I want people to listen to Canadra, so please do
tell me how it went. Let me know how that
went for your update. Supporter, Now, Yeah, we appreciate your
your your.

Speaker 3 (01:30:38):
Coast, the product.

Speaker 1 (01:30:40):
I know you're the program manager here, but you know
that one's a you gotta be you gonna be trapped
on a road somewhere and with the radio and island.
I shouldn't say that. I probably get walked up this
building for saying.

Speaker 3 (01:30:52):
Have you ever been out in the middle of nowhere
in your car and wonder if an alien's gonna show up?

Speaker 13 (01:30:57):
No?

Speaker 1 (01:30:57):
I don't. Actually, you don't think about I never think
about it aliens. I think about I think about wildlife,
like something jumping in front of my car. You know,
I don't think about aliens.

Speaker 3 (01:31:06):
You don't think about it.

Speaker 1 (01:31:07):
Although I tell you what. I work with these sheriffs,
and they have some stories. Boy, these rural sheriffs, they've
got stories of aliens, not of aliens, of something unidentifiable
and unexplainable. Really, Yes, I've even seen a scary one
where they had one of those trail cams. It's the
middle of the night and it's in the middle of nowhere.

(01:31:28):
I'm talking nowhere, and you see a woman in a
summer dress in the in the freezing cold, but it's
like she's in a summer dress walk past and it's
in that do you know how you look? You know
how you look at it at night? And they're black
and white, has that weird look to them. Here's what
they're walking past it in this summer dress and it's
like it has to be like I don't know, thirty degrees.
I mean, it's scary stuff. It looks like a ghosts.

Speaker 3 (01:31:55):
Wow. All right, well that does look for us tonight,
As we say each and every night here on the Rod,
Greg show head up, shoulders back. May God bless you
and your family. Thanks for joining us tonight. Shall we
show up tomorrow.

Speaker 1 (01:32:06):
We'll be here hight, same bat time, same back channel,
starting at four.

Speaker 3 (01:32:10):
Have a good night you talk to you tomorrow

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