The Rod and Greg Show: Rep. Trevor Lee on Stopping Corporations Using Tax Money from Pushing Woke Ideologies

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Speaker 1 (00:00):
These sports teams, these corporate corporations taking our money.

Speaker 2 (00:03):
Yeah, you know, there's a lot. You got some You
got some teams out there they're taking state money. And
then they got a lot of pride. Yeah, because it
is Pride month. They the Mammoth and the jazz are
all rainbowed out. And the representative has an opinion about that.

Speaker 1 (00:17):
Well, it has an opinion.

Speaker 3 (00:18):
Now.

Speaker 1 (00:18):
Apparently one of the media outlets in this town approached
him yesterday. He wouldn't talk to him, but he will
talk to us.

Speaker 2 (00:24):
That's right, folks. You need to know he knows.

Speaker 1 (00:26):
He can tell the truth here and we won't shack
it anyway.

Speaker 2 (00:29):
He has no time for fake news. He's been their
pinata before. But we we call balls and strikes here
and we're gonna we're gonna speak with the good representative
and get the real deal. And I like what he's doing.
I like the points he's making, I really do.

Speaker 1 (00:41):
Yeah. Yeah. And oh, there's also a columnist in one
of the newspapers which is attacking him today.

Speaker 2 (00:46):
Yeah. I think that columnist eats mushrooms. Just so you know,
I think he's out of his mind. Yeah, I think.

Speaker 1 (00:52):
He's those those hallucinogenic mushrooms.

Speaker 2 (00:56):
Yeah, he probably does know I I do. I think
that guy is cuckoo for cocoa pops big time. And
we make it into that too, I mean when we
talked to the good representative cause all right?

Speaker 1 (01:06):
Also coming up, how how big tech has hijacked the
classroom today? You know, teachers are trying to figure out
this paper that was handed in by this student. Did
this student write it or was it Ai generated? Where
was Ai when you and I were in school?

Speaker 2 (01:22):
I'll say that's why I'm laughing. I'm like, man, I
would could believe put a bow on it. I would
have loved it. I I don't know how a little
little Greg Hughes would have What would have happened to
me if I had all the all the insanity going on,
if they didn't want to tell me what gender? If
I could walk into any bathroom because I could say
whatever I am, I would use that rule and make

(01:43):
them regret forever making it. I would covid. I would
have been. I would have said, I can't taste or
smell anything for four years, for as long as I
can get away with it. On Ai. My name is Ai.
My name would be greg I Ai Hughes. I mean
I would just I would just so, yeah, I don't
know how I would have vibed my you know, the
K through twelve.

Speaker 1 (02:02):
Experience fifteen dissertation was written by you and handed in
by you on time, right, Yeah, yeah, that would happen
all right. A little bit later on, we'll talk about
the w NBA. It's fueled by white bigotry, and that's
going to be an interesting topic because you know, the
real star of the w NBA right now is Caitlyn Clark. Yes,

(02:24):
a lot of the players very jealous of Katelyn Clark,
and we'll get into that. I think there's a racial
element involved in all of this.

Speaker 4 (02:31):
It is.

Speaker 1 (02:31):
I think there's also a jealousy element involved in it.

Speaker 2 (02:35):
It's such shortsightedness. If you if you talk to anyone
in the NBA, they'll tell you the moment that they
all needed to look at a player in the NBA
and thank him. And I think it's Michael Jordan. It
might have been even Larry Bird when the salary started
going up, because the viewership, the popularity.

Speaker 1 (02:51):
Started going straight up popularity a magic.

Speaker 2 (02:53):
Johnson, Larry Bird, Michael Jordan, these were all and the
many many players will look at that era as where
it captured the America attention more so than before. And
you saw this upward trajectory. Well, the w n b
A could potentially be in that moment, and all these
players ought to be thanking any player Larry Bird or
A or A anyone so Kaylen kr or anyone that

(03:15):
would bring more viewing eyes, more popularity to the league
and the sport they play. Instead, what do they do
attacking her?

Speaker 1 (03:27):
And it is Elon Musk and Ran Paul versus Donald Trump.
Who's going to win that one?

Speaker 2 (03:33):
I hate it when our friends fight.

Speaker 1 (03:35):
You know, it's well, but they disagree. I don't. I
don't call it fight, you know. I just think they disagree.
They do disagree, and.

Speaker 2 (03:42):
I think that I think all these comments are germane.
I think they should be made right now. Look, I
having been you know, servant in a legislative branch, you're
supposed to have. The House and Senate are not supposed
to rubber stamp each other's ideas or bills or even
funding priorities. There is a negotiation every single year. I
was a member of the House in sixteen sessions. There

(04:02):
was negotiations that had to take place because we did
not see the world the same. That's going to happen
with the Senate and the House with this reconciliation bill,
as it should. Anyone telling anybody to swallow hole what
the other house brought them, they're not they're not being realistic.
So there needs to be the Senate's touch on that bill.
And I hope it's deeper cuts. But let that process

(04:23):
carry forward, let it go. I think it's I think
it's healthy to have a legislative process.

Speaker 1 (04:28):
Yeah, and we'll get into that as well. So we've
got a lot to get to today. Great to have
you along for the ride as you work your way
home tonight, if you want to be a part of
the conversation eight eight eight five seven o eight zero
one zero eight eight eight five seven o eight zero
one zero, or on your cell phone dial pound two
of fifteen and say, hey, Rod, all right, let's talk
about this attack in Colorado, because you know, Tom Holman

(04:49):
last night on Sean Hannity basically came out and said, look,
we have got so many gotaways in this country. I
think the number is around two million. The next nine
to eleven attack could be taking because of these guys
who were in the country today. That kind of a
frightening thing.

Speaker 2 (05:04):
I I statistically, Rod, I don't know that it's not
I don't think it's not not possible. In other words,
you can't let that many people in and there's I mean,
you'd go to a leftist show like sixty Minutes And
there was an episode I watched during the Biden administration
where that some of the largest illegal entries were Chinese
people from China, and you cannot look and there's a

(05:25):
story today about Chinese nationals bringing in agricultural terrorism in
these funguses that they're trying to smuggle into the country.
You cannot see how many people came into this country
from countries that we would consider enemies of our state
and not think that they have ill will like the
gentleman on this last weekend on Sunday and going forward, Yeah,

(05:46):
probably more elaborate. I don't even think it's an if.
I just sadly, and I hope I'm wrong. I think
it's a when, and we better keep our eye on
the ball as to how this happened. It was this
Biden administration worse than any administration prior that allowed millions
of people in here who we had no vetting, no
understanding of who they are, and now we sit incredibly vulnerable.

Speaker 1 (06:07):
Well, and here you have christin home today and I
complimented Christy Nome for doing this. She gave his wife
and his four daughters one way tickets back to Egypt.

Speaker 2 (06:16):
Yeah.

Speaker 1 (06:16):
Absolutely bye.

Speaker 2 (06:17):
Secretary of State Marco Rubio said this yesterday that if
you are the family members of terrorists and you are
here also you are getting deported and that is not
There's no ifans or butts about it.

Speaker 1 (06:29):
And you know you brought this up a moment ago.
Why is the media focusing more on the damage that
Joe Biden's policies are doing to this country instead of
focusing on well, you can't you can't call him a terrorist.
You can't call those people involved Jews because they aren't. Well,
yes they are. You know, why is the media focusing
on Look at the damage that this is done. You

(06:51):
had the shooting in Washington, two young people killed about
to go back to Jerusalem and get engaged and get married.
They were killed because of a because of a terror
that was a terrorist attack. This thing that happened on Sunday,
that was a terrorist attack.

Speaker 2 (07:04):
And that guy he's here illegally. He came, he came,
he overstayed, he got one of those fake asylum designations,
got to stay two more years, stayed past that, he
was here illegally, all on Biden's watch. Here's what I
do you remember back when we had we had the
reporters at least Fox News and some channels. But I
actually I just even mentioned sixty minutes many news outlets

(07:26):
covered the uninterrupted flow of people coming into this country
that were just coming in, and they didn't hide and run.
They actually said, hey, I'm here illegally now because what happened.
They got they got a ticket anywhere they wanted in
the country, They got to stay in hotels, they got fed.
I mean, why wouldn't you I, as Homan pointed out,
if you went to an ICED detention center, you'd have

(07:47):
a hearing in thirty five days. Send them to a
hotel in the inner country, inside of our country their
hearings in three to five years. Well, when we saw
that happening, I didn't hear anyone say, oh, they're coming
in and we'll do our darness to make sure you
can never get them out. Nobody thought that the people
coming in illegally had a right to be here. Everybody
saw it with the same I saying nah, that's I mean,

(08:08):
that's how that's why, that's why Harris lost this election
on in large part because of how that border was
going on. Can you believe if we could go back
in time and say, hey, do you know that all
these people that are coming in, all the left the leftists,
and they're all going to say you don't have any
right to remove any of them as they're coming in
this way. I mean we The sad part is, uh,

(08:29):
I don't think this administration, as hard as they are
working towards this, will even come close to getting out
just the people, depooring or removing the people who came
in during the last four years. They won't even They're
not going to get to them.

Speaker 1 (08:40):
And here's the hypocrisy of all of this. How many
times did you see a split screen? Okay, here's Majorkis
or here's Krang Jean Pierre saying the border is secure,
the border is secure, Yet on the other half of
the screen, hundreds and thousands of people streaming across the
border and no one's stopping it. Yeah, but they're the
line Bald Fades lined Tod Themerican people that the border

(09:01):
is under control. And you know what, the voter saw this,
and last November they said, we don't believe you, and
we're going to put somebody in. And then Greg this
unbelievable story in the in the Washington Post. I don't
know if you've heard about this over the weekend. They're amazed,
how on earth did the flow of fentadol stop? What
has happened to the flow that in this country? Uh? Duh?

(09:24):
I mean, you assume they're pretty smart people who work
at the Washington Post. They can't figure this out, but
they ride a headline what has happened to the flow
of fentodol into this country?

Speaker 2 (09:34):
Yeah?

Speaker 1 (09:35):
Really? Wow?

Speaker 2 (09:36):
So yeah, and then there's a there's to the same
with this, to the same degree of irony you've got.
You got the New York Times they did a they
did a calm about there's a difference between why here
let me just read it. It's a genetic clue to
why men are taller than women. Uh. There's researchers that

(09:57):
are saying men and women are different. Wow, And this
is like, this is I guess breaking scientific study that
men and women genetics are different. Genetic clues were out there,
just like, why is the feminol stopped?

Speaker 1 (10:11):
I don't know.

Speaker 2 (10:12):
Maybe because nobody's getting across that border illegally anymore. No,
I will tell you that you have to destroy that.
The left has to destroy institutions and foundational institutions to
rebuild it. They did their hardest, They tried as hard
as they could to do it. Now we just have
to see if we can get yeah, repair it and
keep it going.

Speaker 1 (10:30):
All right, when we come back, say Representative Trevor Lee
is scheduled to join us. That's coming up right here
on the Tuesday afternoon edition of The Rotten Greg Show
and Utah's Talk Radio one O five to nine knrs,
celebrating day three of Pride Month.

Speaker 2 (10:44):
It's been a whirlwind day.

Speaker 1 (10:45):
It's been an unbelievably crazy, amazing time. Some mindscram Yeah,
getting a lot of attention here in the state of Utah.
Well we got a lot of attention yesterday on the
show yesterday after the Utah Jazz and Utah Mammoth a
hockey team posted, you know, take pride, be happy about
pride taking the mammoth mascot, which I think is a
great mascot, by the way, you been putting it in

(11:07):
Pride colors and you should go and what's wrong with
these people?

Speaker 2 (11:11):
Yes, we spoke about this. Colors participated as well. Our
listeners called in it's so unnecessary. It has no place
in sports. Sports is where we unify together, we come
together for a common cause, and these symbols really don't
have any place in sports, is what we've agreed. That
was kind of where we all landed yesterday. And then
you know, we talked about a representatives wondering why we

(11:34):
have sports teams that are asking the state for taxpayer
dollars and then looking to divide.

Speaker 1 (11:40):
Yeah. Well, a Utah lawmaker who was the sponsor of
the political Flag Bill, which the media, by the way,
Greg loves to call the Pride Flag Bill, which it
is not, had said he's looked at these logos and said,
maybe there's something more we should do about this.

Speaker 2 (11:56):
So joining us on the program is a good friend
of mine, a great lawmaker from the House. You know,
the House is where the arena is, it's not the
House of Lords is Senate. Joining us is Trevor Representative
Trevor Lee, Representative Trevor Lee, Welcome to the Rod and
Greg Show.

Speaker 5 (12:13):
Thanks guys, appreciate it. Always like being on.

Speaker 2 (12:15):
So you know, you ran a bill out last year
talking about how government needs to get out of the
flag business. And I say bravo to that. You didn't
say what kind of flags. You just said we're just
going to get out of the government shouldn't be and
school shouldn't be in the flag business. And that bill passed,
and I think it's good public policy, even if Salt
Lake wants to, you know, be you know, silly about it.
Here we talk. You spoke yesterday about potential legislation, but

(12:38):
really talking about whether it's appropriate for entities that are private,
like like a sports team to be promoting much like
a flag on Pride Month, but then also coming to
you hat in hand asking for tax payer money and consideration.
They've entered into a relationship with the state representative. Maybe
you could share with us what's on your mind about
how that relationship ought to roll out.

Speaker 5 (12:59):
Yeah.

Speaker 6 (13:00):
No, and this this was the whole point of what
I wanted to get out with my tweet that I
have is if any entity is going to start taking
tax payer money.

Speaker 5 (13:08):
It needs to be politically neutral.

Speaker 6 (13:10):
This is just like the flag bill and Utons they
overwhelmingly agreed with this idea. And if the if the
roles were reversed here, if you had, let's say, the
LDS Church saying Okay, we're taking tax payer money now
from the state to help build the conference center or
a temple, people would be up in arms over that.
And there's always a clear distinction between religious groups and
what the government's doing.

Speaker 5 (13:30):
With separation of church and state.

Speaker 6 (13:32):
But for whatever reason, people in certain communities with these
different ideologies feel like they're entitled and that they can
be using tax payer money to promote their ideals and
their agendas.

Speaker 5 (13:43):
And I think utons are tired of it. They're sick
of it.

Speaker 6 (13:46):
And when the when the Smith Entertainment Group is going
to be receiving close to a billion dollars from taxpayers,
that's no small amount of money. And that is where
I have some serious issues that if they want to
be a private company group, they can do what they want,
but the minute they take taxpayer money, that is our
money going to fund their agendas that they're now promoting.

Speaker 1 (14:06):
Representative Lee, I was chuckling a little bit when I
saw the headlines in some of the media that you
are threatening significant legislation to deal with this. I love
that term threatening. I've never thought of you as a
threatening individual representative.

Speaker 5 (14:22):
I mean, I'm not a tall guy.

Speaker 6 (14:27):
You know, I here, and you know it's interesting they
do want to rile this up. And all the phone
calls that I get from the left on this is like, oh,
you're a homophobia a big and it's like, no, guys,
I want government to be politically neutral, and we have
done a good job I feel like maintaining that in
the state of Utah. In fact, so much so I
think we've kind of succeeded some ground to this. And
these private public partnerships is where we've really gotten into

(14:49):
trouble now because these are originally we're private entities that
are now getting money money from us as taxpayers. And
I don't think it's a threat to say that they
have they need to have some restrictions or some strings
with this money that we're giving them. I mean that
that is something that both sides should agree on because
it can go both ways.

Speaker 2 (15:07):
So you got so there's this columnist, sports guy Gordon Monson.
I'll say his name, but he's in one of the
fish wraps in town and he has a lot to
say about you and about your comments and is saying
that it's just all hate filled. I want to I
want to share with our listeners. I don't know if
they remember, but this would be the same Gordon Monson
who said that America first Credit Union by using the

(15:29):
term America first, America first is a term of anti Semitism.
It is a Nazi term, America first, and they should
be removing it from the Credit Union itself as well
as the stadium. So that's that's a perspective of the
of your critic representative. But what would you say, and
you touched on a little bit for those that would
say that that there's this is all inspired by hate

(15:51):
and and to target a specific group, maybe share again
why this actually is the opposite of that. This is
trying to keep people all together, with that out identity
politics interfering with that.

Speaker 5 (16:04):
Yeah, no, that's exactly right.

Speaker 6 (16:06):
And in fact, this is what I would say about
those who say that it's hateful or bigoted or homophobic,
is just because I may not agree with it, does
not mean I'm hateful, does not mean, I don't love someone,
and that's how the argument has been.

Speaker 5 (16:20):
Shifted, and it's been spun against us.

Speaker 6 (16:22):
When I say, hey, you know what, I don't want
taxpayer money to be used on something that I don't
agree with, that's when they start jumping on that, Oh,
you're a bigot, you're a homophobe. And I think honestly
it shows the lack of education and sincerity from these
individuals because they also know that that's all they have.
It's wrong what they're doing, and they know it, and

(16:43):
so they just start to go to name calling and attacking.
And it's been attack if the Left is used for
a long time, and quite frankly, it's not working. We
won the popular vote popular vote this last year, which
was fantastic. The American people are tired of it. If
you have a sports team, they want to go to
sports kunch. You said, like, you want to make sure
that you have that escape from politics, escape from life.

(17:04):
And they have tried to infuse on the left their
politics and their ideology into every aspect of our lives.
And to say that I don't want that, or like
could you please stop, I'm now considered the hateful homophobe.

Speaker 5 (17:16):
Bigot because I say I don't want that.

Speaker 1 (17:20):
Well, we'll see what happens with your legislation. Trevor is
always great to having you on this on the show.
Thank you very much for joining us.

Speaker 2 (17:26):
Thank you for your service.

Speaker 5 (17:27):
Thank you guys.

Speaker 1 (17:27):
All right on our newsmaker line that is State Representative
Trevor Lee right here on the Rod and Greg Show
in Utah's Talk Radio one O five nine can Arrests.
You know it's Trevor. Didn't want to talk to other media,
but we called morning, so would you come on the
show and talk to us about this?

Speaker 2 (17:40):
Said, you bet, that's right. They trust us that we
tell the truth, real deal, balls and strikes. That's what
we do.

Speaker 1 (17:47):
All right, more coming up on the Rod and Greg
Show on this Tuesday afternoon here on Utah's Talk Radio
one O five nine can Arrests. Well, Utah alung with
several states around the country, you're doing all they can
to ban cell phones from the classroom. They're different studies.
We had this this guest on several weeks ago and
he said, you know, don't overreact to this self abandoned school.
It may not have the effect that a lot of

(18:07):
people are hoping it would yea, and it maybe just
too Yeah, you can't. You can't have smart kids? Yeah,
basically that's yeah, and they can figure it out. Well,
how big tech hijack the classroom? What exactly did they
do well? Joining us on our Any Hour Newsmaker line
to talk about that is Melissa Henson. She is vice
president of the Parents Television and Media Council. Melissa, how

(18:28):
are you, and welcome to the Rodden Greg Show. Thanks
for joining us, Melissa, my pleasure.

Speaker 7 (18:33):
Thank you for having me on.

Speaker 1 (18:34):
Melissa, is banning cell phones the answer? Or there are
other things we should be looking at as well.

Speaker 7 (18:41):
I think banning cell phones is an important first step,
but I certainly think it is worth having a broader
conversation about the role of technology in the classroom because
I think, you know, for a lot of parents, I
think we were sold false bill of goods. I remember
visiting school that we were thinking about enrolling my son,

(19:01):
and they made a big deal over the fact that,
you know, they had laptops for every student. I said,
that's not the stilling point you think it is. I
don't want my kid on a screen all the time.
I don't want to have that battle at school and
at home. I'd rather have him learning how to take
handwritten notes, you know, rather than having typing up and
transcribing and using all these digital sheets in order to

(19:24):
get around the assignments. I want them to learn how
to do things that the old fashioned way, in the
hard way. And it turns out that there's not a
lot of data to back up the conclusion that laptops
in the classroom are helpful.

Speaker 2 (19:38):
So, Melissa, I think your article speaks to my kids
are adults now, but I remember being a parent and
looking and that technology was, you know, emerging and becoming
more and more important, and people were selling Maybe the
snake will back then. But I think you bring up
a good point about how do our kids interact with
others in a classroom environment with the TA teach? How

(20:00):
does a teacher interact with the students. How are they
picking up the emotional intelligence and the skills to explain
a thought or things like that? Do you lose that?
Is there a trade off? Do you think there's a
measurable trade off between more technology in the classroom and
less interaction which are actually human skills that we might
have taken advantage of, taken for granted before, but are

(20:22):
actually pretty important moving forward.

Speaker 7 (20:25):
Yeah, absolutely absolutely. And you know what I hear from
educators that I speak to, the parents that I speak to,
is their kids don't know how to interact in person.
They may have friends, but their interactions with their friends
are almost entirely online. You know, rather than going over

(20:46):
to a friend's house after school to play, they're going
you know, they're going home and getting on their computer
and talking to the friends online instead of interacting in person.
I think kids have lost a lot of interpersonal skills
that happened A lot of it happened during COD but
it certainly has been exacerbated by the widespread adoption of technology.

Speaker 1 (21:05):
Well, so what about the introduction of AI into the classroom.
How's that going to affect the classroom? Do you think?

Speaker 7 (21:11):
Well, I think we're already seeing problems. And again, you know,
talking to educators, they're trying to figure out how do
we make sure that kids aren't using AI to write
their term papers, how do we make sure that they're
not using AI to cheat on homework assignments. It's going
to become an increasingly difficult problem to navigate right now.
I think some educators are able to look for certain

(21:34):
cueues to identify things that are written by AI. But
as these tools become more and more sophisticated, it's going
to get harder and harder to spot the stuff that
was used that was created using AI.

Speaker 2 (21:46):
You know, you look at educators today, they probably are
young enough they grew up around technology to some degree.
What you're asking, or what your column suggests, is that
the teachers get more involved with the students. There's more
interaction with this students. That sounds like harder work or
more work for teachers. Do you even think that with teachers, unions,
and teachers and what they're used to in a classroom

(22:09):
right now? Do you see a day where we could
see more interaction, more teacher involvement with a student, more
note taking from the student. Can we get back to
an environment like that or is this an ARA gone by?

Speaker 7 (22:22):
I think we can and I hope we can, because again,
what I'm hearing from parents and from teachers is that
teachers are losing control in the classroom because they're having
to deal with kids that are constantly distracted by technology.
They have short attention spans, they're constantly looking for rewards
for doing the most basic tasks. And there are a

(22:43):
lot of teachers that are looking to get out of
that profession already. You know, some of them have only
been teaching for a few years and they just don't
know how to deal with these kids who've been raised
on technology. So what we need to do is cultivate
slow learning. We need to cultivate longer attention spans, and
I think getting rid of the classroom computers is going

(23:03):
to help with that.

Speaker 1 (23:05):
Melissa, I want to ask you this question about is
there something wrong with somehow embracing this technology and being
able to how to figure out how to use it
in the classroom that it gets to the results we
want without banning this technology. Can we embrace it take
advantage of it without hurting the kids or the teachers
or the relationship in the classroom.

Speaker 7 (23:25):
I think there can be a middle ground that can
be struck. But I think you know, again, what I
hear increasingly is that tech companies, for example, aren't looking
at people that are graduating with computer science or computer
programming degrees. They're looking for people who are graduating with
humanity's degrees, because they know how to reason, they know

(23:47):
how to think, they know how to problem solve, they
know how to write, they know how to communicate. So
the skills that kids need in order to function in
the workplace, the computer skills, the technological skills that they're
going to need, they can pick up along the way.
It doesn't need to be integrated and doesn't need to
be a central part of their school curriculum.

Speaker 1 (24:07):
Well, Lissa, it's always great conversation. Thanks for a few
minutes of your time today. Thank you for your work
on our any hour Newsmaker line. That is Melissa Henson.
She is vice president of their Parent Teacher Counsel. I
tell you what, Greg, You know, we can be critical
of this, but I still go back, where was this
when you and I were in school.

Speaker 2 (24:25):
Yeah, I wouldn't have learned anything because I would have
absolutely what I would have learned is all these workarounds.
I would have been a master at every single one
of them because it would have I mean, it's low
hanging fruit for a young person. It doesn't want to
do the studying, it doesn't want to do the report.
I just I just shudder to think. I will say
that real time learning isn't exists today where it didn't before.
Remember used to have the Britannica encylcipedias or you had

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to go to a library if you wanted to understand
anything about any topic. And the do decimal system with
your card, you know, your card catalogs. You can now
look into anything in this world that's ever happened or
ever will. And so there's some real time learning that
I can't ignore that I think does promote a greater
education and greater understanding. But uh, you know, how do

(25:09):
you blend that? Is? That was your question I thought
was a good one.

Speaker 1 (25:11):
Well, the one that was discussed of course, how do
we embrace this technology like you just mentioned, to further
and make them even smarter? I mean, right, you know,
And but I go back what happened to the days
of a pencil and a piece of paper?

Speaker 2 (25:24):
Yes, I And.

Speaker 1 (25:27):
The other thing the relationship, the ability to develop a
relationship with other members of your your class and your teacher,
you know, without the darn computer or the darn cell
phone in your way.

Speaker 2 (25:38):
I want to know if it's true that because what
it's true for me. But maybe I'm just maybe I'm
just used to it. When I write notes, I retain
what I'm hearing and what I'm I want to remember
going forward better when I write it down, even better
than if I'm typing. If I've been if I've tried
to type notes before, it's not the same as writing
the notes. I want to know if that's me. You
need to know if there's something to that.

Speaker 1 (25:59):
I think research is shown in writing something down instead
of typing something, you do retain it a lot more.

Speaker 2 (26:06):
Yeah, that's the case.

Speaker 1 (26:07):
Research.

Speaker 2 (26:08):
I think the kids should be taking notes, and I
think it's it's an automatic. If it's true, it's true
for me it is.

Speaker 1 (26:13):
I think it is all right. More coming up It
is the Rotten Greg Show right here on Utah's Talk
Radio one O five nine knrs nice weather over the
past several days been kind of nice. It's nice, but
it feels more like may yeah than just well these
really he's been pushed back by about two or three weeks.

Speaker 2 (26:30):
Well, my big beef was that we're never going to
get days in the seventies. It's in the seventies right now.
We deserve some days in the seventies. We were fifteen
the sixties, eighties, never got anything right now seventy.

Speaker 1 (26:39):
Four, Yeah, Well, how long is that going to last?
I think it heats up again this weekend.

Speaker 2 (26:43):
Yeah, Thursday seventy nine goes seventy six, seventy nine, Then
Friday's eighty three. Yeah, Saturday's eighty seven. Sunday says ninety degrees.

Speaker 1 (26:52):
See, and I like the heat, well, you like the heat.

Speaker 2 (26:54):
I like these.

Speaker 1 (26:54):
I'm like a lizard. That's my grandkids calling.

Speaker 2 (26:57):
It was a lot cooler in San Diego this week
shut it was a lot cooler. It was kind of
with the breeze and the higher humidity, it feels a
little you know, sixty seventy feels a little more chilling.
Seventy four feels chillier. Yeah, yeah, you know.

Speaker 1 (27:11):
I don't know what what it is or what the
state of their budget is, but there is a story
out there that more and more people are now financing
the purchase of their groceries, of their restaurant bills, of
their gas bills, will gas. You've been doing it if
you have a credit card, but they're now financing they're
grocery bills.

Speaker 2 (27:33):
You know what I think it is. I think it's advertising,
because I swear that, you know, I get I get
picked on all the time on these splurge buying things.
You know where they on social media will just show
me something I didn't even know I wanted.

Speaker 1 (27:46):
You need help because something shows up. You don't need it,
but you think it's cool.

Speaker 2 (27:49):
You can what I want. It just it just compels
me into action. But what I always see are these
these pays like you can make equal pains and you
could do it for door dash, you could do it
for you can do it for anything. You can make
payments for any one time transaction that you would never
I would never think you'd want to have, you know,

(28:11):
multiple payments.

Speaker 1 (28:12):
For Yeah, well you can take out a loan now
to buy your groceries.

Speaker 2 (28:15):
It's just crazy.

Speaker 1 (28:16):
I know times are tough and young families the cost
of things are up, But to me, this is the
stupidest idea I've ever heard.

Speaker 2 (28:22):
I don't think it's the times. I think it's the marketing.
I think they I think they're lurering consumers into saying, look,
you could spend a little now and then just pay
that little over time versus paying for it right, all
all in one bite. And I honestly don't think you'd
see people doing it if they weren't aggressively marketing it
the way they do.

Speaker 1 (28:40):
You can order a burrito or a hamburger and pay
for it later.

Speaker 2 (28:45):
It's it doesn't make any sense to me.

Speaker 1 (28:47):
What is that teaching?

Speaker 2 (28:48):
You know? That's where I am usually a sucker for
these things when they seem to me. But I have
I have staved off that idea.

Speaker 1 (28:55):
Really.

Speaker 2 (28:55):
Yeah, I've had the willpower to say no, I'm not
making equal payments for that. That's crazy.

Speaker 1 (29:00):
One other note to pass along before we head into
a news update. Surprise, surprise, older Americans are increasing their
use of marijuana. I do believe they're crazy not giving
it up yet.

Speaker 2 (29:15):
Yeah, well it's you know, a lot of your generation.

Speaker 3 (29:17):
Man.

Speaker 2 (29:17):
I'll tell you what you guys, you millenniums.

Speaker 1 (29:20):
Do you call me boomers? Bloomers?

Speaker 2 (29:23):
You're just a mess lot. Most of you boomers are
like democrats. And now you're now you're on the on
the weed again, on the.

Speaker 1 (29:31):
Really you rage. Neighbor.

Speaker 8 (29:32):
There we go right downstairs, neighbor, she's in her got
to be late seventies, early eighties. Let's just say, when
I go home every evening, my house, my SENSI bill.

Speaker 2 (29:44):
Has been ridiculous, and all we know is that he's
been buying door dash like a mad man by about
ten o'clock at nineties, but breathing if so much, he's
gotten munchies. He doesn't know what to do.

Speaker 1 (29:53):
Marijuana use among those sixty five and older surged forty
six percent between nineteen or twenty twenty twenty three. Wait
to go, Rod, I did, which is I don't blame
it on me, Blame it on any rade's neighbor.

Speaker 2 (30:06):
You this is your this is your generation getting crazier,
getting crazier.

Speaker 1 (30:10):
Yeah, well, seniors, marijuana use reaching in all time HU
in America.

Speaker 2 (30:14):
There is a medicinal use if you get it recommended
by a physician. I'm actually I.

Speaker 1 (30:18):
Think a favor that I'm not opposed to that.

Speaker 2 (30:20):
I think there's something smart. I don't think pharmaceuticals are
the answers for everything. I think big I'm I am
way more suspect of a big farmer nowadays. I'm not.
I don't understand the commercials, Like, you're not a doctor,
you can't prescribe anything for yourself. Why are they advertising
to you?

Speaker 1 (30:33):
Yeah?

Speaker 2 (30:33):
Why are you being advertised to on a drug that
you can't get over the counter? What are you supposed
to do? Tell your doctor what you need?

Speaker 1 (30:40):
Are you telling me I go home, roll one and
light it up tonight.

Speaker 2 (30:43):
Name No, I think you should get a doctor to
recommend it if you have a medical issue.

Speaker 1 (30:47):
Okay, otherwise stay away from it, Greg show we aren't high.
I'll be honest with you. That's coming up. Stay with
us twenty million dollars to learn how to talk to
young men and convince them they should be a part
to the Democratic Party.

Speaker 2 (31:01):
We could come in for a lot less. I just
don't know if I'd ever want to share the truth
with them, but we could do it for a lot
less than twenty million bucks. But we're going to tell
you and you will too. You probably already know what
their problem is, like we do. But we're going to
explore this this issue.

Speaker 1 (31:16):
In this hour. Well statistician Nate Silver, Oh, I know
you read quite a bit. He analyzes numbers. He'll admit
he usually votes for Democratic candidates, but he's pretty good
with the numbers sometimes right. So he basically has said,
or has come up with a maybe a formula for this,
And he basically says that young men in this country

(31:37):
are turned turnout, they're mentally stable. There's nothing wrong with
young men in this country. Today, maybe a little lonely.
Some are, but that's another point. But they say, young
men in America today cannot stand neurotic dictatorial democrats.

Speaker 2 (31:51):
Imagine that. Imagine that dull, right, And you know who
does like to neurotic dictatorial democrats? Crazy, kit crazy, weak people. Yes,
that's who want to be told what to do because
they're afraid of their own shadow, which isn't doesn't define
a guy.

Speaker 1 (32:06):
Yeah. He goes on to say a significant challenge for
Democrats maybe that an increasing percentage of young men are
turned off by the party's irrational political rhetoric. Yeah, you
know who would you want to be a part of
that club? No, I'll I answer no one. I'm going
to tell you right now.

Speaker 2 (32:25):
I have a son who's twenty three, and I think
he's part He was never as I served in politics.
He had no interest in politics whatsoever. He knows very
little of my political experience, the public era of my
public service. But I'll tell you who drew him in
to politics. It was these canceled comedians that he enjoyed
listening to. It's the sports commentary that not the ESPN preachy,

(32:48):
politically correct version of sports. But it's the other sports,
people like barstool Sports or some others out there that
are and they've been attacked by the regime media, by
the preachy, neurotic Democrats. These individuals and as they've pushed back,
never wanting to be political, but pushing back because they're
being attacked or trying to be canceled, and they've pushed back.

(33:09):
It's really drawn a lot of young men who weren't
thinking about politics but do like comedy and do like
sports to realize there's an entity outside that's trying to silence. Yeah,
just something that's funny, something that's entertaining, something that they like,
like sports. That is at the heart of why young
men have no interest in this Democrat party right now.

Speaker 1 (33:28):
Well, part of this twenty million dollars the Democrats have
set aside to study young men is to find a
new Joe Rogan.

Speaker 2 (33:35):
Because Joe Rogan's not a Republican, He's not at right
of center. He was libertarian by nature, but the Democrats
literally kicked him, chased him out when he did the
ivermectin and things for when he had COVID, they hung
him to dry them and they may and so they have.
They're Party of subtraction. The reason they can't find it,
Joe Rogan is because people that weren't Republicans, they've kicked

(33:56):
them all out of their party. They've gone, they've doubled
down on crazy. Yeah, go try to find a Joe
Rogan that's crazy.

Speaker 1 (34:02):
Listen to these numbers, greg on the mental health of
young men in this country today. We may have touched
on this yesterday. Fifty one percent of conservative young men
say they have excellent mental health. Okay, okay. Twenty percent
of liberal young men say they have excellent mental health. Okay.
Another number, forty five percent of liberal liberals have poor

(34:26):
mental health. Nineteen percent of conservatives say they have poor
mental health.

Speaker 2 (34:32):
You want to know one of what contributes to that number.
What is that the Democrats have also promoted, in addition
to identity politics, a victim class. You don't have any
standing in society unless you're a victim. You have to
be a victim of something. You have to come from
a race of people that were victimized long ago. There
has to be something in your history, or in your ethnicity,

(34:54):
or in your preferences in life that makes you a victim,
so that you're part of a victim class, because that's
where the standing is. That's what makes you important, that's
what gives you the right to have an opinion. If
you're not, then you're the privileged, you're the you know,
you've they got pejoratives for everybody that's not a victim.
So why do why do only twenty percent of Democrat

(35:15):
men or guys feel like they're healthy? Because if they're healthy,
then they're not a victim. And if they're not a victim,
then they don't have standing in this nut job party
that they've become.

Speaker 1 (35:25):
I saw on line the other day they were talking
about the Democratic Party and young man, if you if
you're a the Democrats believe that if you don't think
Donald Trump is nuts and Donald Trump is out to
ruin the country, then you're stupid.

Speaker 2 (35:41):
That's right.

Speaker 1 (35:43):
That's the whole approach of the Democratic Party today. If
you don't think Donald Trump is dangerous, if he's stupid,
if he's not a threat to the country, then you
are not a part You're dumb. For me, you're not smart.

Speaker 2 (35:55):
Former First Lady Michelle Obama is now in the podcast
game with her brother Yeah, and he has stated very
clearly just recently if someone supports Donald Trump, I won't
have them on the show. I wouldn't be able to
speak to them. This was our first lady, the first
lady of all of America. If you and seventy four
million people who voted for Trump were to approach her,
she wants to not even look you in the eye

(36:16):
if you've supported Donald Trump. That's how deranged she is.
I mean, I just find it they can keep playing
subtraction like that. Okay, take seventy four million Americans that
voted off the board. They're no longer saying to you,
all right, good luck with that, because there's a lot
of young men that are part of that equation. There's
a lot of common sense Americans that were part of
that equation that probably weren't didn't see themselves as a Republican.

(36:39):
But the Republican Party stands for common sense as much
as conservatism, though, I mean, because they have just gone
so radical and so far. And by the way, while
we're on it, I'm seeing so many of these demographics,
like Hispanic Americans that are voting for Republicans. Hispanic majority
counties that voted for Trump first time voted for Republican
first time, since they were accountants. That are moving. You

(37:01):
see a lot of different demographics moving towards the Republican
candidates because of the way that Democrats are treating them.
Where are Jewish American voters right now? Their block is
still solidly in the left column, and they are under
attack right now, their literal lives are not safe right now,
and yet they're still voting Democrats.

Speaker 1 (37:19):
That does make sense. Come on, well, a lot of
people in the political punditry are talking about this. Here's
a coming from Shermichael Singleton. He appears on CNN along
with Scott Jennings fairly often, and he said, men want purpose,
they want stability, they want respect, not lectures about toxic
masculinity that they get from Democrats.

Speaker 9 (37:38):
I think a part of the conundrum for Democrats is disintegration.
This dislocation you've seen specifically among men is something that
Democrats haven't really figured out. Congressman, how to communicate, how
to fix those numbers, I mean Hispanic men. Donald Trump
saw an increase of twenty plus percent black men in
states like Pennsylvania, North Carolina, Texas. He saw double increases,
and we're seeing signs that those numbers alive, going to persist.

(38:01):
So if I'm a Democratist again, it's not enough to
just be against Trump. It's not enough to also articulate
what you're for. But it's articularly what you're for that
is palatable to a lot of Americans out there, specifically
men of color who Democrats are currently bleeding.

Speaker 1 (38:13):
And along with that, the great guru of the Democratic Party,
Minnesota Governor Tim Walls, has weighted on this, are your
happy hands happy? Apparently his son has now graduated from
high school. Okay, good, and he turned to his son
and he wanted some advice as to why young men
are attracted more to Republicans than Democrats. That's what he

(38:34):
had to say.

Speaker 10 (38:35):
And I think Donald Trump understands belonging, understand groups.

Speaker 1 (38:39):
I mean, you look at it.

Speaker 10 (38:40):
He gives them a uniform, the red hat, he gives
them some chance, some talking points, whatever. It's not that
all that different than when we build sports teams in
high school.

Speaker 5 (38:48):
You belong, you're part of this.

Speaker 1 (38:50):
It's not so much the policies.

Speaker 10 (38:52):
I think it's incredibly dangerous, but I don't think we
went out to get them. We didn't out to make
them feel a part of this we did not make
and and what they're doing is and this is very
effective when it comes down to it with John the
teacher part, you're gonna come to it's Maslow's hierarchy. People
will always vote on security, and that's why Trump always

(39:13):
goes back to the tough guy, the strength thing and
all of this.

Speaker 1 (39:16):
And now, do you agree or disagree with what Wall said?
There's some of what I agree with and other points
I would disagree with.

Speaker 2 (39:22):
No, I think he's one hundred percent wrong. He thinks
it comes down to a hat. He thinks it comes
down to a uniform. I hate to tell him, it's
not the Maga hat that that's drawn this. It's not
it isn't it. It has nothing to do with wanting
to belong to a political party or to belong to
Trump's mega movement. It's that I will go back to
the things that young men like. Young men like sports. Yes,

(39:43):
they like comedy and comedy. If you look back at time,
it's always taking the uncomfortable issues or the ironies of
life and making light of them. We all love comedies.
When comedy was good, they were getting canceled because they
were talking about taboo supposed taboo subjects. Well, I think
young men who like who like their comedians, like their sports,
like their commentary, they started complaining about the regime media,

(40:06):
They start talking about being canceled. They started becoming more
political out of survival for what they did in terms
of what they were involved in. And I think that's
what introduced young men to that perspective, not Trump by
himself when he does say that when people want to
feel safe, people do want strength. We do. Young men
do want to see strength. They want to see those things,

(40:26):
and certainly Donald Trump projects strength because he is strong,
and so I do think there's an appeal there.

Speaker 1 (40:32):
But don't you think young men and men in general
want to be a part of a group. Disagree with that.

Speaker 2 (40:38):
But I don't think there are a lot of young men
are dying to get put that right mad.

Speaker 1 (40:43):
But didn't Donald Trump kind of create this movement, this
excitement because he is a one of a kind. I
don't know what his magic formula is, but it is very,
very powerful, and I think a lot of young men
preferred to be a part of that group. Then the
group the Democratic Party was offering.

Speaker 2 (41:00):
I as much as I love Donald Trump, I don't
think Donald Trump did it. I think that they are
running away from what the Democrats are and what they
represent today more than they are to Donald Trump. Because look,
Donald Trump won in sixteen. Okay, we weren't talking about
the you know, the podcast in the long form podcast.
We weren't talking about that. He did very well. He
got more votes in twenty twenty. You know, he got

(41:23):
into the seventy million range in twenty twenty. We weren't
talking about it. We're talking about it now because I
think the left got crazier and crazier and crazier. And
as they got crazier and as they became more radical,
the people that were not Republicans began to migrate over
and support Trump. And this is where the young people followed.
And I don't think it's Trump by himself. I don't

(41:44):
think it's his hat. I think it's this these irreverent
call it like they see it type people, strong willed
people that are done with the crazy Democrats and they're
done with this chemical castration of kids. They don't want
to any part of any of it. It's all insane
to them. They are getting away from that, and where
are they going. They're going to the one voice Donald
Trump that makes sense, who's not buying into any of

(42:06):
it and will take on any odds to tell the truth.
And they're they're they're gravitating to that. I I don't
think it's Trump by himself, but I will tell you
that that they're Democrats until if they keep thinking it's
about hats and they think they can go find the
crazy one that's part of their Democrat Party of subtraction
equivalent of Joe Rogan. They're on a they're on a

(42:28):
wild goose chase because none of it exists. As they say,
they have to change what they think and stop being
so crazy. Which look, I don't want them to stop
being crazy. Let Bernie Sanders and lead their party. That's
the leader of these those three are the leaders of
their party right now. Somebody asked who's the most powerful
Democrat and in Washington, DC right now, they said, without pause,
Bernie Sanders. Okay, let a or AOC let them be

(42:51):
the leaders of your of your party. Good luck with that.

Speaker 1 (42:54):
I've got another theory on this, but we want to
get your thoughts on this. What is it about the
Democratic Party that you think turns off young men? Because
the Democrats are spending twenty million dollars to find out yep.

Speaker 2 (43:06):
And we yeah, there's data out there that shows that
that eighteen to twenty four, eighteen to twenty nine, eighteen
to thirty five demographic is flying to the Trump and
swinging like probably the biggest demographic of swinging towards Donald
Trump of any of the demographics that voted in the
last election.

Speaker 1 (43:22):
Eight eight eight five seven eight zero one zero eight
eight eight five seven o eight zero one zero, or
on your cell phone dial pound two fifty and say hey, Rod,
what is it about the Democratic Party that turns off
young men? Now we've shared our thoughts, is what we
think is going on. We'd like to hear from you.
Eight eight eight five seven o eight zero one zero
eight eight eight five seven o eight zero one zero,

(43:44):
or on your cell phone dial pound two fifty and
say hey Rod.

Speaker 2 (43:47):
So let's go to our smartest listeners in all the land.
Let's go to Mike in Midvale. Mike, welcome to the
Rod and Greg Show. What do you think about guys
and the Democrat Party?

Speaker 4 (43:58):
Well, Janet's first, Rod, are you feeling better?

Speaker 1 (44:00):
Yeah, I'm feeling much better. Thank you for asking Mike. Yeah,
I'm feeling the voice is almost back. It's almost back,
right on right.

Speaker 4 (44:10):
Good to have you, bad brother. So I think young men,
you know, they love heroes.

Speaker 11 (44:17):
And when President Trump took that shot in Pennsylvania and
he stood up, you know, blood streaming down his face
with the American flag behind him, every young man, I mean, heck,
I'm pushing sixty even, I wish, you know that I
could do something that heroic.

Speaker 4 (44:37):
Now. I probably run under the bleachers and you know,
like a scared you know, little girl. But you know,
he stood up and he raised his fists, and did
you notice none of the people he brought calm to
that crowd.

Speaker 2 (44:51):
I was gonna say it up and ran away, you know,
like when you said that you would have run under
the bleachers, when you said you're gonna run under the bleachers.
I got to tell you that nobody did because he
brought that kind of courage to the to the crowd.
I think you're one hundred percent.

Speaker 4 (45:04):
Right, yeah, And you know, young men, you know, they
want to be that hero. And you know, and they
sprinted away from the elephant whisperer.

Speaker 1 (45:16):
You know, yeah they did.

Speaker 5 (45:20):
You're right, remember talking about the elephants oh yes.

Speaker 2 (45:23):
Yes, that's that's I got it.

Speaker 1 (45:25):
We got it, Mike, Thank you. And Mike makes a
very good point. He stood up there, bloodstreaming down his face.
Who will ever forget him saying fight, fight, fight, I know,
I mean, you don't know where someone horrifically died there.
It wasn't like that was some that was It was
as serious as you get. Someone sadly passed away on
that stage. And it was not in.

Speaker 2 (45:45):
His best interest to to to do anything to get
out of there and stay down. And he wanted that
crowd to know he was alive, he was well, and
to never give up. And I'm telling you that is
that that is inspiring and I and I would agree
with Mike that if you're a young man, or you're
any any American, you see that, you can't help but
feel inspired by that.

Speaker 1 (46:04):
I remember, I think this is true. But you know,
well they're all rushing to protect him, the Secret Service
agents during that. I think the question he asked one
of the guys is where's my shoe?

Speaker 2 (46:13):
I heard it, wanted to know where his shoe is.

Speaker 1 (46:18):
All right, back to the phones we go. Let's go
to Andy in Centerville tonight. Here on the Rotten Greg Show. Andy,
how are you? Thanks for joining us, Thank you for
having me.

Speaker 12 (46:29):
The young man I speak to, they feel three things.
Not loyal to the country, unpatriotic, and be honest with you.
They feel that they just hate the country in the
way they talk. I know there's many Democrats who do,
but they come across in such a way that the
loyalty and patriotism of the country is this not there,

(46:52):
always sounding off and always criticize in the country.

Speaker 1 (46:55):
In any way.

Speaker 12 (46:56):
And that red hat that they wear reminds him of
the fourth.

Speaker 2 (47:01):
Yes, yep, and I I agree with you with These
are great observations. Look, the Democrats, they make you you
you're supposed to feel nothing but shame for this country.
Is our founding fathers were rate you know, slave owners
and racists and and so. Yeah, I think that that
in order to be a part of the Democrat party,
you got to hate you don't You have to disparage this.

Speaker 1 (47:22):
Country eight eight eight five seven eights or a one
zero eight eight eight five seven age or a one
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the Rod and Great Show. We'll get your news update,
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Speaker 2 (47:35):
Man, some of this is just just innate in US.
We just don't want to be weak and wimpy, and
that's all they are. And so you know, until they
figure that out, they're just going to keep digging. Let's
go to the callers. So I want to know what
you think, folks. I mean, why is it that the
Democrats are having such a difficult time attracting men or
they're actually losing young men out of that party in droves.

(47:55):
Let's go to our callers. Let's go to Ken and
Hoop hooper A. Welcome to the Running Greg Show.

Speaker 13 (48:01):
Yeah, good evening, Hey, good evening, Rodden Greg, thanks for
taking a call. I think the big issue is that
for most of the last four years, the Democratic Party
has done everything it could to add to their voter pool,
either by having people enter the country I legally or
trying to buy votes, and you know things like now

(48:25):
they're currently trying to fight the removal of legal aliens.
The student loan forgiveness program was all just to buy votes,
and the.

Speaker 3 (48:38):
Current support for biological males and women's sports was to
try and win votes over that. And I think most people,
and especially young men have recognized that this.

Speaker 13 (48:52):
Is just artificial. It's only focused on trying to get
votes and not really having a good agenda for the country.

Speaker 1 (49:01):
A very good point Ken. I think the last point
that he made about they don't want artificial, they want authentic.
And we pointed this out before the the kids, young
man the authentic they want. They want authenticity. Donald Trump
when he goes out to a farm field, he does
put on a farmer's hat and jeans. That's not him.
He wears his suit in those.

Speaker 2 (49:20):
Long time as authentic as you get.

Speaker 1 (49:23):
But he's authentic. But Tim Walls, on the other hand,
gets his gun, puts on his flannel shirt, puts on
his stupid hunting hat and thinks he's a hunter.

Speaker 2 (49:31):
Yeah, And it's all performative and the all people can
see right through it, right through. And by the way,
the point that Ken brought up that I like too
is they're all about it's all transactional for them. They
they are this whole point they have given They've given
up all the people that vote for Trump. They're not
even trying to win them back back.

Speaker 1 (49:46):
They don't care.

Speaker 2 (49:46):
They want the illegal aliens to stay here so they
can win those swing states and that's what they're fighting for.
It's just it's just a transaction for them.

Speaker 1 (49:52):
Eight eight eight five seven eight zero one zero more
of your calls coming up on the Rod and Greg Show.
Let's go to Brian in woods Cross, who's waited patiently
for us. Get on the show tonight, Brian, thanks for
joining us.

Speaker 14 (50:03):
Hey, glad to be here. Just as the side. I
met Sis and he's out at the Desert Peak, uh
complex a couple of summers ago at a at a
veteran's fundraisers.

Speaker 7 (50:18):
Yeah.

Speaker 14 (50:19):
Yeah, he's kind of a nice guy.

Speaker 2 (50:21):
Really, thank you, sir.

Speaker 14 (50:26):
You know. Yeah, so anyway, no, you.

Speaker 1 (50:30):
Can say, you can say, Brian, he was running for
political office. So was he was smoothing you?

Speaker 15 (50:35):
He was?

Speaker 14 (50:35):
He was done with political Okay, he was. He was
starting to do this and you think he was still stumping.

Speaker 2 (50:45):
Yeah, I always am.

Speaker 14 (50:48):
So the way I see it, the Democrats are well,
they say they see young men as the problem. They're
the up and coming patriarchy, they're the they're the future problems.
And so to Democrats, if you're a young man, and
unless you're gay or trans or super supportive of those

(51:09):
by wearing you know, rainbow colors and protesting. They have
no need of you. And so I think that young
men who look at that say, you know what, there's
not a place for me in that party because I'm
not that way. I may not be testosterone driven, but

(51:30):
I'm not part of the patriarchy and I'm not going
to couch out to the to the idea that somehow
I have to be milk toast. And I don't know,
I don't know the right word that I can use
on the radio. But they but they don't. These young

(51:51):
men need to have a place, and they look at
Trump and say, this is a man. This is where
I want to be, this is what I want to do.
I want to be in charge of things. I want
to be a father, I want to I want all
of the things that Trump offers and the Republicans offer
that the Democrats tend to push them away from.

Speaker 1 (52:11):
Yeah, got good points, Brian. I mean think about it, Greg,
if you're a young man today, if you aren't Kay,
if you aren't trans in some cases, if you aren't
black or Hispanic, you know, if you aren't pro choice,
then get our pro choice. Then you have no room.
There's no place for you in the Democratic Party today,
Why would I want to join that?

Speaker 2 (52:32):
And those are all special And again it is all
about how do you take a nation of a nation
of immigrants and really turn them against each other, which
is what you know, what communism looks to do. They
used to do it by class. But we're upper mobility.
We can move, we can do better than what we
were born into. There is no cast system. So what
do they do. They turn us against each other on
our differences. That's identity politics and then victim class and multic.

Speaker 1 (52:54):
And they're masters at it.

Speaker 2 (52:56):
That's all they have. Yeah, that's all they have. Okay,
have time, Let's go to Le's go to our college.
Let's go to Tyler in Riverton. Tyler, welcome to the
Rodd and Greg Show.

Speaker 16 (53:05):
Hi, thanks very much for taking my call. So I
just had one opposite point of view on this. So
with all the crap our kids are forwardit in high
school about liberalism, my daughter and her two best friends
joined the military and they couldn't be prouder to serve
their country.

Speaker 2 (53:22):
Nice.

Speaker 1 (53:22):
Oh that's great. I liked that, Tyler. Why did they
do that? What was behind their decision to do That's
a great thing to do. But why do you think
they did it?

Speaker 16 (53:32):
Well, it was interesting my growing up. They would come
home from school with liberal points of view, and we
tried to have me make sure we had an open
discussion at the dinner table about you know, conservatism and
what it meant to us. And one day one best
friend joined the navy. Then another best friend joined the army.

(53:52):
And then a year ago my daughter came to us
and she says, I want to join the navy. Wow,
and whatever it is for these kids that means that
much for him to serve their country is just incredible.

Speaker 1 (54:05):
Well that's great. So, Tyler, your dinner table was basically
the detoc center. Is that is that right? Tyler?

Speaker 16 (54:11):
You hit it right on the head. It was, I mean,
and it was some funny discussions, but that's exactly what
it became.

Speaker 1 (54:19):
Well that's great, Tyler, thank you for your call. Let's
go back to the phones in Gransville tonight. We're talking
with Tom here on the Rodden Great show. Tom, how
are you thanks for joining us?

Speaker 15 (54:28):
Great?

Speaker 2 (54:29):
Great?

Speaker 15 (54:30):
Hey, I just had a thought on it. You know,
these young people. I feel so bad for him because
I've got younger sons. They're in their thirties, which to
me is younger. But yes, you know, how does a
kid that is twenty years old that's trying to raise
the family. They're paying two thousand dollars plus a month rent.

(54:50):
How are you ever going to afford a half a
million dollar house that's just kind of the mid range. Yeah,
you know, they probably think about that. They got to
pay their bills every.

Speaker 2 (55:01):
It is so true it Tommy, You're exactly right. Our
young people that are growing up, they're looking around, going
how do I get to I I just mentioned upward mobility. Uh,
it's in Utah, especially with the cost of living, it
is going up so fast. And honestly, the way they
printed money during the Biden administration, the way they spent it,
and it's just it's made it harder and harder and harder.

(55:23):
And I do think that our young people are are
connecting the dots. You remember the young, young lady from
Provo who before the election, predicted that you would see
young people and numbers you'd never seen before vote for
President Trump. It happened. It happened just as she had
predicted it, and she was drawing from her experience.

Speaker 1 (55:40):
Speaking of Accona with pressure do you remember what you
paid for your first home?

Speaker 2 (55:44):
Yeah, yes I do. I wish I was paying that
this year. Yeah, no, I think I paid. Yeah, it
was one hundred and thirty thousand.

Speaker 1 (55:55):
What thirty fourth Outum, well.

Speaker 2 (55:57):
You're one hundred years old. So that was like with
you know, I I don't know what houses went for
when Utah is a territory, but as a state, I paid. Yeah,
I paid.

Speaker 1 (56:06):
It was thirty or fourth thousands.

Speaker 2 (56:07):
Wow, that's that isod.

Speaker 1 (56:09):
And I think we sold it like two or three
years later for like forty two my house. Oh, we
thought we were rolling.

Speaker 2 (56:14):
In my house. It was. It was a good sized home,
I felt, And it was in nineteen ninety nine and
it was And I think my mortgage, my principal interest
in taxes and insurance were all less than a thousand
a months.

Speaker 1 (56:27):
Wow. Well, well mine was in little bit and that's
what I paid.

Speaker 17 (56:31):
All right.

Speaker 1 (56:31):
More coming up the Rod and Greg Show with you
here on Utah's Talk Radio one oh five nine. Can't
arrest all right if you're just joining this now, we're
talking about young men and the Democratic Party. The Democrats
are still trying to figure out what is it about
Democrats and their party that does not attract young men. Now,
during the break, we saw this segment on Fox News
which raised an interesting question. Can you think of a

(56:52):
happy Democrat right now? No, I'm thinking about it. Is
there someone who comes on TV and it's just happy?

Speaker 2 (56:59):
Look? I went. Ucker Carlson was on Fox News. The
Immortal words he said that I have always, have never
forgotten and have always repeated is that the Democrat. He said,
the Democrat Party is a party of angry women and
weak men. And I'm telling you you think about it.
Think of every woman who's a who's a you know,
on the national stage, it's a Democrat. And tell me

(57:19):
if they're if they're happy, aspirational or angry.

Speaker 1 (57:22):
Well, let's think of a few. Michelle Obama angry.

Speaker 2 (57:26):
She's angry the way she talks about motherhood and and
and how hard it is and how rough you'd hate
to be your daughter listening to her talk about being
a mom. She's having about it.

Speaker 1 (57:36):
She said, you know, having children is the least of
what being a woman is.

Speaker 5 (57:39):
Really, it's a.

Speaker 2 (57:40):
Terrible assessment, she said. She sounds completely misered.

Speaker 1 (57:44):
All right, Uh, Nancy Pelosi.

Speaker 2 (57:46):
Oh, she's she's just tearing the President's speech in half
when she's up on that Diis during his stay of
the Union, during his first start. I'm telling you she yes.
I can only think of her in images where she's
outrage and angry.

Speaker 1 (58:00):
You know what, I miss the cackle Kamala Harris. Is
she happy?

Speaker 2 (58:07):
You know she? I gotta say, of all the angry women,
if we were talking all of them out there, the
Elizabeth Warrens and everybody else, they all get. All they
are is just finger waggon and screaming. She does cackle
and laugh, but it's like a nervous laugh. It's not
a happy laugh.

Speaker 1 (58:22):
So she doesn't know what to say.

Speaker 2 (58:23):
She's nervous because she doesn't know what to say, and
so she then she reaches for the word salad and
she starts feeding it to everybody.

Speaker 1 (58:30):
But Crockett a happy person.

Speaker 2 (58:33):
She's she's angry as she's she actually has. That's her
brand is angry.

Speaker 1 (58:39):
Angry, Ernie Sanders weak, Chuck Schumer weak. I mean, go
down the list, Yeah, find me a happy Democrat.

Speaker 2 (58:51):
Aspirational, give me the give me the equivalent of the
type of vision of America that you hear from Trump today.
Ronald Reagan in the past, many many Republicans that talk
about JD. Vance and what America has provided for him terrific.
Whose father was an immigrant. They were immigrants from Cuba.
And you know his father was worked in I think

(59:11):
he may I think he was a bartender or something
at a hotel and worked in hospitality. His son is
now a senator and now the Secretary of State. So
you hear a lot of Republican men and women who
are aspirational and love this country. Give me their equivalent.
As you said, of the Democrats, I don't know. I

(59:34):
don't know one of them. They they have made a
party out of demonizing Republicans, tearing down every institution everything
they can. They've only been critics. They've never built any
If someone knows what not only if you can tell
me when that's happy, tell me something they've built that
they that they that they have buttressed, that has been

(59:56):
that's been good. I can't. I can't think of any
of it. I can't.

Speaker 1 (01:00:01):
Good point, Good point. All right, coming up, I'll correct myself.
We're not going to be talking about the WNBA. After
E Ray told me don't talk about it yet, I
go ahead and talk about it. So we are going
to talk about that, but we are going to talk
about this interesting battle shaping up between Elon Brand Paul
and Donald Trump. Yes, who's going to win that one?

(01:00:22):
Donald Trump? Yeah, probably, we'll talk about it coming up.
Stay with us. Hour number three is on this way.

Speaker 2 (01:00:30):
The legislative branch. It's designed to make it very very
hard to pass a bill and very very easy to
kill a bill. That's how it's supposed to work. And
you're supposed to see the tension between the House and Senate,
even if they're from the same party. There is no amen.
You know, here's your sheet of music. Everyone starts singing.
It's hard to get your votes in the House. It's
hard to get it out. And then when the Senate

(01:00:51):
does it, they have their process and then there's a
conference committe where they got to come and come together.
That happens on this every All fifty states go through
this legislative branch process. Our federal government should do it
a lot more than they do it. But we're seeing
an example of that. Now. Don't confuse the Senate and
the House seeing things differently. Right now, at least as
something wrong. It's not wrong. It's actually muscle memory that

(01:01:12):
these clowns haven't had in a long time about getting
something past. Now they have to actually succeed in doing that.
But it is not outside the realm, and shouldn't be
outside the realm that there are different ideas of what
that bill should be doing and should not be doing.
That's part of the process. And I haven't seen Congress
act like members of Congress or of a legislative branch
for a long time. So I'm glad to see the conflict.

(01:01:34):
I welcome it.

Speaker 1 (01:01:35):
Well, the conflict. I'm glad to see it as well,
because if on the Democratic sorty party, the Democratic Party side,
you never saw anything.

Speaker 2 (01:01:42):
No, I all got in line.

Speaker 1 (01:01:43):
You know, they gotten Nancy Pelosi said, you step out
of line, I'm going to whack you.

Speaker 2 (01:01:47):
That's right.

Speaker 1 (01:01:48):
And the same thing happened in the Senate. That's what's
the difference. In the Republican Party. You can have an open,
sometimes mean discussion, yes, but it's about the issue. Rand
Paul has spoken out, Ron Johnson has spoken out today.
Elon Musk called it a big abomination. You know, we're
just four days very hard. He's paid a high price
to find place. Just four days ago Trump was praising him.

Speaker 2 (01:02:10):
Yes, and he still would. And that's where you see
the difference between Republicans and Democrats. Where you can have
these policy disagreements, they're going to have to find common ground,
which is part of that process too. But on the
Democrats side, when Obama passed Obamacare and socialized medicine, he
did it with all one Democrat votes. And it's really

(01:02:30):
easy to get a Democrat to vote your way. Just
give them more money. Okay, So you had the senator
from from the Nebraska. They just said, oh, you don't
have to your state doesn't have to pay. It's it's
matching portions for Medicare and Medicaid, and that that amounted
to hundreds of millions of dollars and that got his vote.
And they gave the Senator from Louisiana some hundreds of

(01:02:52):
that hundreds of millions of federal dollars for run around
money that she could go fund whatever she wanted, and
they got her vote. And so that's that's easy for
Democrats to do. It's much more difficult for Republicans because
as you're hearing from Rand Paul, you're hearing from Senator Johnson,
they have substantive policy issues and budget issues, and it's

(01:03:13):
not going to be you can't buy them off, So
let to let the process continue to go. And I
and I think and I like that Elon Musk can
share his frustration or even his opposition to this, because
I wouldn't mind seeing a bill that cuts more that
does want I'll take it. I'll take the version we
have now over nothing, But boy would I love to

(01:03:33):
see it cut. There's so much more that's out there
to cut. And by the way, there's a recision package
White Houses submitting to which also is going to do
a lot of cutting. That's going to be where you
see the NPR and stuff as well.

Speaker 1 (01:03:45):
This debate, But who steps up and support it what
the president is trying to do. Jamie Diamond, President of
the World.

Speaker 2 (01:03:53):
And this is an important voice as well. And these
people aren't all wrong when they when they one hates it,
one likes the bill, they're actually talking about different parts
of the bill that are worth liking and not liking.

Speaker 1 (01:04:03):
Yeah, listen to what Jamie Diamond had to say about
this bill was this morning with Maria Bartaromo on Fox Soon.

Speaker 18 (01:04:08):
I mean thrill they got it through and I think
Michael Johnson didn't unbelievably job doing that. I think the Senate,
I think is they finish it. I think it creates
increasing consistency. Keeping the tax rates going that allowed business
to invest, small business to large business is really important
for growth and et cetera. And if you go back
to the bill in twenty seventeen, it brought back trillions

(01:04:29):
of dollars in the United States. It created a lot
of jobs, It created a lot of growth, and people
in the look at those numbers.

Speaker 5 (01:04:35):
They don't accurately say what those are.

Speaker 1 (01:04:36):
So it will work.

Speaker 18 (01:04:38):
Then they should go back and worry about cutting you know,
literally looking at and I shouldn't say cutting making things
more efficient around you know, Medicare, Medicaid, social Security. It
could be done. But I think they're better of just
getting this thing finished as best they can. You know,
the smaller the definit is the better.

Speaker 1 (01:04:54):
And that's what that's what the President is saying right now,
get it done. Now, let's get this taking care of especially,
let's not worry about the tax cut anymore. Let's just
make that permanent. Yes, that's anymore. The issues and we
all know that social Security, Medicaid, Medicare are eating what
is it? Eighty seven percent of the federal budget now

(01:05:15):
is for entitlement.

Speaker 2 (01:05:16):
For most of the budget, I don't know the percentage,
but it's most of our budget is automatic, autopilot, no
cap spending.

Speaker 1 (01:05:23):
Does reforming it mean cutting it? No?

Speaker 2 (01:05:26):
No it. Look here's here's the thing about entitlement spending.
And this is the American people's fault as much as
it is the Congress that is disappointing everyone in terms
of what they're not cutting. Uh, this, this Reconciliation bill
is for the stuff that's not discretionary. They say, but
that's your Social Security, your Medicare, your Medicaid. As we discussed,

(01:05:46):
Democrats have made it an art to never have an idea,
to never build anything, to never do anything, to not
be aspirational. But they can make a Republican look like
the devil overnight or in half a day. Why because
they can say, is you're looking at entitlement spending that's
going through the roof and is unsustainable by any measure.
If you try to do anything to slow down, even

(01:06:08):
the front, they're trying to hurt people. The Republicans want
to hurt your mom, hurt your grandmother, hurt people, take
health care away from the needy. This is all they
know how to say and do. And it gets scarier
when you consider that Elon Musk gave receipts and said,
guess what, we have people that are one hundred and
twenty supposedly one hundred and twenty years of age and older.

(01:06:28):
That's twelve point three million people. We're going to get
rid of them. We're going there's people that have two
account numbers, we have duplicative services being spent out. And
then there's able bodied people on Medicaid through Obamacare expansion
that should be working. The Democrats did the Tesla takedown
and took him out and said, and still say to
this day, all you're doing is trying to harm Social Security, Medicaid,

(01:06:50):
medicare harm people. They're going back to their old playbook,
and it works in large part with the American people.
So if you want to see entitlement spending cut, we
have to start talking about things that Democrats to use
against Republicans, like an art They they they you have
to you have to, we have to support the work
they're doing.

Speaker 1 (01:07:07):
Yeah, what is the message? Because you're right, Greg, you
talk about anything about Social Security, Medicaid, or Medicare. The
Democrats instantly are going to roll out the old Paul
Ryan commercial, remember him wheeling Gramma in a wheelchair off
the cliff, right, They're going to bring that out. How
do the Republicans create a message that the American people say, Okay,

(01:07:28):
I see what you're saying here, and let's move forward
with this because we've got to do it knowing that
they're going to be attacked by the Democrats. I mean,
I'm not sure what messages is other than the fact
if we don't do this, folks, we're in a heap
of trouble.

Speaker 2 (01:07:42):
Well, the two messages I would and I've thought about this,
if putting my former legislator had on, the two things
that I would emphasize or do is my level best
to communicate to the American people, would be this one.
Fraud people are stealing from that system. Okay, that doesn't
that doesn't protect you and your Medicaid or your medic
your Medicare check, or your Social Security. When people steal,

(01:08:03):
when they're fraudulent, when they take money that they're not
eligible for, We're going to fight that so that you
the American people will get the benefits you deserve and
that you paid into and that you should receive. We
fight that, and that has to be the bright line
that people understand it's fraud and it's and it's the
theft of the public treasury that they are going to stop.

Speaker 1 (01:08:23):
And on top of that, you have to give them
stories correct. People relate to stories. Here's an example. You
don't have to name names, but here's an individual that
made kazillions of dollars off this and this individual should
never have received that money. And there's a bilion stealing
from you. The American text.

Speaker 2 (01:08:39):
Fifty million people with the same story. The second thing
I would do is I would go back to our
twenty year olds and our thirty year olds and I'd say, look,
this system isn't just tell them the truth. This system is,
it's going right now, isn't going to be around when
you're sixty five anyway. So we're going to take that
sixty five for you twenty and thirty year olds from
age sixty five, it'll be sixty eight when you get
to collect it. And if, by the way, in to

(01:09:00):
day's dollars, if you declare an income up two million
dollars you don't get to Social Security. Check. Now you
could say, well that's unfair. Well, you ask any twenty
or thirty year old right now. I'll make you a deal.
If you're making you can make two million dollars a year,
or you can get Social Security, which you're gonna pick. Yeah,
they're gonna pick. I'll make a law. I'd like to
make millions. Okay, if you're in that that side of
life and you're making that kind of money, then you

(01:09:22):
don't how much do we pay in federal taxes that
we don't get back right now? Make that deal, but
make it early for a generation that won't see any
of it anyway, And minimally you've put a marker out there.
You've at least found maybe not right away, but at
least you've reformed the program. If we can even get
to the twenty and thirty year olds when they turn
sixty five, you've started to implement some reforms that are

(01:09:44):
desperately needed that you cannot do and you arguably shouldn't
do to people that are receiving it right now.

Speaker 1 (01:09:49):
Yeah. Well, two points to add on that, more and
more people are working past the age of sixty five. Yes,
they do I mean more and more here I am working.
You know a lot of people do that. They want
to continue you working. Okay, so that helps. Plus, I
havn't studies shown that just extending the retirement age by
two or three years, maybe like what you suggested from

(01:10:10):
sixty eight, from sixty five to sixty eight, Yes, would
save Social Security millions, if not billions of dollars.

Speaker 2 (01:10:17):
Oh the I can only imagine the savings. Now you're
gonna have to be going back in time, because you're
gonna you're gonna say, this is a generation that's coming up.
My grandmother was part of what they called the notch
She was a notch baby. Notch baby. They reformed and
changed Social Security and these benefits. Uh and and they
did it too. They did it at a time where

(01:10:38):
there were people that were that that they impacted. It
was supposed to be for people that weren't going to
be impacted in and she she was in real time harmed.
And now these people have now since passed away. She
was born in nineteen eighteen or nineteen nineteen, but she
was one of she was in this generation of Americans
that were called notch babies because some of the reforms
they made impacted them detrimentally in real time. But but

(01:11:02):
you could go back and you can go back to
these generations and at least reform it there and and
then if times call for it, you could maybe for again,
not people in real time receiving it, but people that
are not yeah, and go. Because I'm like, I'm fifty five,
you could you could tell me right now there's not
going to be social Security or Medicare. Medic Yeah, Medicare,
So you've got to do something. I'm open to reform myself,

(01:11:24):
but a lot of a lot of people my age
might not be. I would go to the age where
no one's thinking retirement and they don't and we don't know,
we don't have high confidence it's even going to be
existing back there. So I would do that. Plus I
would say, because we have to stop the theft that
you know, the fraud, the fraud and take the stealing
of the of the public treasury. That's the stuff that
frustrates me that Elon Musk found that somehow the Democrats

(01:11:47):
and the regime media turned into him being a scoundrel
for finding it. That's the part that it kills me.

Speaker 1 (01:11:52):
Well, we're on dig more into this and what's going
on in Washington. Chris Bedford with the Blade, Washington correspondent
with the Blazes, will be joining us, coming up with
Bottom of the Hour. Give us at more insight as
to what's going on in this battle between Trump and
and Elon Musk and Ran Paul and Ron Johnson and
Mike Johnson, they're all involved in this. We'll dig into
that with Chris Bedford coming up shortly here on the

(01:12:13):
Rotting Greg Show. Moore coming up on Utah's Talk radio
one oh five nine k NRS. Chris Bedford, the Washington
National or Washington correspondent with the Blades, will join us
give us a little more insight on that. But you know,
we've been critical of the bill, but there are some
good things in this bill. There are, I think we're
talking enough.

Speaker 2 (01:12:29):
About there are, and some of these things find their
way into this the non discretionary side. So these are
automatic funding items that used to only be Social Security, Medicare, Medicaid,
but over time Democrat congresses and Biden administration, like the
Green New Deal, they found themselves in this non discretionary
or this this this this side of it of the

(01:12:51):
of the of the column. So anyway, replacing things like
that are items in the big beautiful bill, like having
to deal with with the border. This bill would would
fund the entire border wall, that's the infrastructure and technology,
to the point where Trump won't have to ask for
funding for any more of it. Good for the rest

(01:13:13):
of the second.

Speaker 1 (01:13:14):
We will have a complete border wall.

Speaker 2 (01:13:16):
Yes, the technology as well as the infrastructure. And I
believe this includes also a significant increase in border patrol
personnel and and and he doesn't have to and the
immigration court strategies. So if that's in there, and he
doesn't have to have to fight Congress, because I'll tell
you what, these midterms, when you've got a three when
you have a four member majority, you cannot bank that

(01:13:39):
he's going to have four years of a Republican controlled Congress.
If the Democrats were to take control of the of
the House. He's done on the legislative side in terms
of appropriations and everything else, they will be at a stalemate.
He needs some of these things done right now because
this might be the only chance he gets. So when
I see that, I think it's worth I mean, you
can still dislike a lot in that bill, and you

(01:14:01):
can still hope that the Senate fights for deeper cuts,
and you can hope that that conference committee with the
House and Senate finds that solution to get the votes,
because it's all math, so we can have both emotions
at the same time. But that right there, that's that's worth,
that's worth supporting. We need that.

Speaker 1 (01:14:17):
It sure is well. I want to answer you this question, Greg,
this dealing with money in the economy yet again, five, ten,
fifteen years ago, what would you say it was the
most trusted and respected company that we had in America
at that time?

Speaker 2 (01:14:33):
Ten fifteen years ago and fifteen years ago? Oh, was
General Electric still General Electric? Jack Welch, Jack Welch was
pre respected. I think back in the day, I don't know.

Speaker 1 (01:14:45):
One of them was Disney. Disney was admired, right, yes,
And now you see this story coming out they're laying
off hundreds of people in the latest round of layoffs,
primarily because in their marketing division, because of their woke
agenda the American be But if we don't want this
from you, entertain us, please don't have all these messages

(01:15:05):
hidden in your films that we have to look for.

Speaker 2 (01:15:07):
Yeah, they they're they're the other example of the of
the identity politics, the victim class politics, and uh and
it turns people off. It's not entertaining, it doesn't bring
people together, it doesn't bring audiences together, crowd together. It's
it's it's anathema to entertainment it sports or movies or
whatever it may be. And uh, yeah, no, Disney, Disney's

(01:15:29):
on a bad course. And they they don't. They they
are so stubborn they don't want to course correct. They
really don't.

Speaker 1 (01:15:35):
I well, apparently it's going to be uh a six
percent trimming of its TV rating, of its staff, and
that means, uh, you know, just a few months ago
they laid off two hundred people. Now the number is
closer to six to eight hundred people for Disney in
their television and marketing areas well.

Speaker 2 (01:15:54):
They deserve it. They you know, there's consequences to decisions.
And I think that in the free market, if you
keep making the wrong decisions, it comes back to on't you.

Speaker 1 (01:16:03):
I think reg it goes And I've said this before.
You can push the American people so far, that's right,
And the American people will eventually, and it may take
a little while, but they will eventually say enough is enough.

Speaker 2 (01:16:15):
I don't know how bud Light got it worse and
course corrected faster than Disney has. On both sides, they're
getting it slower, and they're course correcting slower than bud Light,
bud Light, Budweiser Man. That was an institution and it
became a pariah and for people to drink beer. I
come from Pittsburgh. That's a drinking town with a football problem.
I know you know cousin Matt, he works at a light.

(01:16:39):
They have not come back. You know, Iron City Beer,
which is the local beer, has really taken the consumer,
taking their bud Light's place. But it's come back a
little bit. But they are trying very hard to get
back to their their place in the market, and it's
taking them a long time, but they are trying. I
don't see Disney trying, do you. I don't see them
acknowledging any mistake made.

Speaker 1 (01:17:01):
No, that's for sure, all right. Mare coming up the
Rod and Greg Show, Chris Bedford, national correspondent with the Blades,
will join us, give us the inside scoop on the
big beautiful bill that the President is trying to get
through Congress. That's all coming up on the Rod and
Greg show.

Speaker 2 (01:17:13):
You're like the regime media in the tech company.

Speaker 1 (01:17:16):
I've had some tell me the less of you would
be better.

Speaker 2 (01:17:19):
You see, you're censoring me. You're just not censoring. Yeah,
you wouldn't turn a button on?

Speaker 1 (01:17:23):
Well you have a button over there, Well.

Speaker 2 (01:17:27):
It lights up. I wasn't aware that I could you
turn it on? All right?

Speaker 1 (01:17:30):
I don't.

Speaker 2 (01:17:30):
Oh, you shouldn't have told me that.

Speaker 1 (01:17:31):
Yeah, yeah, that that could be trouble is Well, we've
been talking about the battle shaping up between Elon Musk
and Ran Paul Ron Johnson, the President Mike Johnson over
the big beautiful bill that the President wants. Is Greg
pointed out out earlier, it is all part of the
legislative billmaking process. This is what takes place, and this
has to get to take place. Well, let's get an
inside look at it right now. Joining us on our

(01:17:53):
any Hour Newsmaker line is Chris Bedford. He's the senior
editor for politics with the Blades Washington correspondent as well. Chris,
great to have you on the show. Give us the latest.
What's going on with these guys.

Speaker 17 (01:18:04):
Well, there's certainly a back and forth between el and Musk,
and is somewhat of a disconnect between his brand of
what he's projected onto the Trump administration and what the
Trump administration ran on and voters chose. Has not known
it really it never has positioned himself as a strong
fiscal conservative or he's positioned himself as someone and the

(01:18:27):
things that he campaigned on and the things he heard
about in the raised rallies were deporting in legal immigrants
and taking care of the gangs in the country, securing
the border, ending the fentanyl crisis, working with young men,
getting rid of DEI in government, and going after it
in colleges. These are some of his main talking points.

(01:18:48):
Ending the war in Ukraine is something that he repeatedly
touted in his rallies. Musk became a donor and someone
who was around all the time, and he had a
lot of ideas and if you heard him him taught
where he was very He was constant presence at mar
Lago and the lead up to Trump's inauguration, and during
that time he'd repeatedly say things like we must consider

(01:19:08):
ourselves radicals for limited government, which is something that a
lot of Republicans agree with, whether it's Senator Rand Paul
or Ron Johnson, that's what they view, but that's never
been really a mainstay of the Trump administration, whether you
look at him, or you look at Vice President jd
Vance or you look at Stephen Miller other people actively

(01:19:30):
involved in the head of policy. Some of their main
things have been getting the funding to be able to
complete the president's agenda on deportations and arrests, on securing
the border, on being able to fund the military for
whatever conflicts play ahead. And this still is extremely important
to that. But it's not just Trump there. You've got
people like Senator Ron Johnson who say that we need

(01:19:54):
to we ought to return the federal government to the
spending levels that it had before COVID, which is a complete,
deletely reasonable thing to say in every single city in
the world except for Washington, DC. Like if people like
Susan Collins or Lisa Mkowski or Mitch McConnell wanted to
cut the deficit after COVID, they would have any of

(01:20:14):
the couple of years since COVID has really passed in
its sustained form in the United States, the Republicans broadly
liked the campaign on these issues, but rarely fight for them,
So you can't get their votes on actually being able
to fund the Big Beautiful Bill if you make these
cuts too Seriously, now, the Big Beautiful Bill does have
massive deficit cuts. They dwarf the They dwarfed some of

(01:20:37):
the spending cuts that were included in Bill Clinton's famous
nineteen ninety seven compromise that ended up helping to balance
the budget. The problem is the budget has balloons, so
theoretically in that time and you have to kind of
have to choose where you're going to fight. Democrats weren't
able to change the country.

Speaker 4 (01:20:55):
Really they were.

Speaker 17 (01:20:56):
They've been running a full sprints since two thousand and eight.
But they didn't change the country with the same vote.
It was vote after vote after vote and building a
coalition to getting it across. Yeah, I think you shouldn't
let the enemy be the perfect be the enemy of
the good here, and that's the fight that they're having.
And so far, the President, unlike maybe with the House
version of this bill, has been active from the very beginning.

(01:21:19):
He's on the phone with Senator Johnson, He's on the
phone with Senator Paul. He is on the phone with
the Senator Josh Holly, and his confroncerns about medicaid cuts
and how it might affect his his voters. He's moving,
he's working in froms of the way that he wasn't
able to do because there wasn't actually texts at the
beginning of the House at the House's fight over this battle.
And he's hoping for a bill by July fourth, and

(01:21:40):
I think would be a it's an optimistic timeline that'll
be difficult for them to achieve.

Speaker 2 (01:21:46):
But and a lot rides on this, you know, Chris,
you bring up such interesting points, and we want to
get to your article and the principles that you're that
you noted that somebody pointed out that said that the
chaos isn't that chaotic and Nate and there's these four
principles that lay out maybe Trump's agenda. But what I
want to ask you, just on this topic of the
role of Elon Musk, I think that Doge pointed out

(01:22:07):
that there is a way that the economy can get
stronger by identifying the waste and mostly the fraud that
he's uncovered or Doge is uncovered. But then the part
that I think is really interesting is the NGOs and
some of the money that Congress doesn't oversee didn't I
didn't know existed. It would seem to me that it
would play very well in Trump's agenda to get rid

(01:22:30):
of the amounts of money, the billions of billions of
dollars that are going to DOGE or going I'm sorry,
going to NGO's USA I D things like that. Is
there an intersect? There is there a common ground there
that Doge that Elon's looking for and that Trump should
see so that his government isn't Trump proofed and it
does promote a stronger economy.

Speaker 17 (01:22:51):
Yes, absolutely, And that's some of what you've seen and
what rus russ Vote and the President have been pushing
in there in the fights to get the sentence to
clop back some of the funding that's been given so
the Senate can appropriate funds all at once. And it
needs a sixty vote threshold to really be able to
change some of that nondiscretionary spending, but they can do

(01:23:14):
with fifty one votes. They can actually pull back, and
they can make it so that they can pull money
back that the President doesn't want to spend anymore. And
his package for millions and millions and millions of dollars
has included funding for NPR and PBS, for example, as
well as in particular to what you're talking about, funding
for USAID, which has been one of the greatest legacies

(01:23:37):
of what Dog has been able to accomplish. These are things,
whether it's going after the left wing network that props
up left wing nonprofits all around the world to make
it seem like it's a completely natural and organic thing,
are funded by the American taxpayer. And this is not
simply waste. This is this is like you said, it's fraud,
it's stealing. It's not things that the American people were

(01:23:57):
really aware of. It's not things that the American people selected,
and it's not even things that the Senate seems to
actually have a good grasp on. And even that is
going to be very difficult in the House, and then
not so much the House, but then in the Senate.
To get those sorts of programs passed. Foreign policy is
extremely dear to people like Mitch McConnell and some of

(01:24:18):
his allies. And then you've got Senators like Collins and
Murkowski who are swayed by the fact that sen Same
Street was once a good program when they were children
and might and something is once was once connected with TBS,
but no longer it is. I think it's ton by
HBO or something at least the time being. They're swayed
by that. They're afraid of any kind of a fight,

(01:24:39):
they're afraid of any kind of a cut. But those
are all important fights to have. They're there, they fit
with the Trump agenda and that they are instruments of
the left for controlling opinion and controlling American society and
controlling opinion around the world and influencing it. And they
should go after that. But you know, there's there's different
things you have to pick and choose at different times.

(01:25:00):
So when you got a controversial thing which ought not
to be controversial to your point, but is among some
more of the weak need Republicans, those are the sorts
of things you need to pull out of a big
package like the Build Back Better Bill if you want
to be able to get what matters most the administration.
Across that finish line.

Speaker 1 (01:25:19):
On our Newsmaker line, that's Chris Bedford. He's with the
Blades and see and of course the Capitol Hill correspondent
White House correspondent for the Blades talking about the inside
story and so what's going on and like you said, Greg,
this up back and forth. You get on, you state
your opinion, you disagree, you argue, you go on and on,
and eventually a bill's going to be put together. Now
I hope they get it done by July fourth, it

(01:25:41):
would be, but.

Speaker 2 (01:25:44):
I hope we all finished our taxes by April fourth,
but we don't. April fifteen seems to day be the
day that all human means go to. So whatever you
get the last day before recess, like before the August
recess starts the day before, will be the.

Speaker 1 (01:26:01):
Is out your prediction?

Speaker 2 (01:26:02):
Yeah, I do. I think it'll take them as long
as they have to get it done, because they'll just
keep pushing until they get to that date. And then
once you get into their their downtime, their August recess,
that's when they're gonna be like no, no, no, no, no,
Now it's time to get real. We got to get real.
Now we can't eat into our August we gotta go
we got to go home. So then then things will
get real.

Speaker 1 (01:26:22):
Yeah, all right, mare coming up the Rod and Greig
show and Utah's talk right he on one O five
nine k nrs. Remember the Olympic gold medalist the guy
who thought he was a woman and won a gold
medal in the boxing. Yeah, remember that.

Speaker 17 (01:26:35):
A mon.

Speaker 2 (01:26:38):
Poor woman's nose and in mamateur boxing you never break
I mean you don't see that they have headgear on.

Speaker 1 (01:26:44):
Well, the results of a chromosome test m on this
woman boxer or man boxer, right, has proven something, which
is this individual is a biological male.

Speaker 2 (01:26:58):
Yes, well, no surprise if you looked at him. I mean,
we do have senses of sight, you know, and hearing,
and we can we can see and we can hear
that this person was a man.

Speaker 1 (01:27:10):
The leaked medical report, first published by three Wires Sports,
showed that the boxer's DNA showed markers of maleness in
the DNA.

Speaker 14 (01:27:22):
You know.

Speaker 2 (01:27:22):
And now they're so now the World Boxing whatever the
whatever organization is that did this big research. They they
are now apologizing that the boxer's name was named in
the study. They didn't mean to bring that that that
athlete personal embarrassment, but I think it ought to be.
I think it's an absolute shame that the female boxers
in the Olympics were denied the opportunity to compete because
they had they had the box against the guy and uh,

(01:27:45):
you know when that and then that poor the woman
that just gave up because she got hit in the
face so hard and new and she'd been sparring. She's
an Olympic level boxer. I think it's their gold medal
game or about and she doesn't come out of the
corner because it's just she knows she been hit by
a guy. Yeah, and she's not and she can't and
I'm sure I think her noses broke. So anyway, she

(01:28:05):
was very upset, and then the whole world in the
regime media came down on top of her, and she
apologized for her comments. She had nothing to apologize for.
She was the victim in the whole mess.

Speaker 1 (01:28:15):
She sure was. The uh Trump Administration's battle against California
over trans athletes has taken another step. The Department of
Justice has given the sixteen hundred plus schools in Los
Angeles that belonged to the California Interscholastic Federation until June ninth.

(01:28:37):
What is that? What are we on the third? Now
second third? So six days to certify in writing greg
that they will implement what the President wants when it
comes to trans athletes. So they have six more days
if they don't, there goes some of the funding.

Speaker 2 (01:28:52):
Yeah, and that's again, that's not new to Trump. That's
that's what presidents and their administrations have done in the past.
That's what the Department of Education can do. They can
withhold funds. It's been It's a well known fact, at
least with states, their legislatures, their governors, and the federal government.
And the Trump's willing to do it. And you know what,

(01:29:12):
Democrats been willing to do it on everything under the sun,
on their agenda, and no one's ever said a word
so tough.

Speaker 1 (01:29:19):
We were talking earlier about trands, the whole Pride Month
and corporations getting involved in this, right, like the jazz
and like the hockey club and other groups. Well, apparently
Americans are very skeptical of corporate Pride support, right surprise,
Americans say, companies support Pride Month more for profit correct

(01:29:42):
or pressure from people than just being part of the effort.

Speaker 2 (01:29:47):
And I'll explain why all the money. Yes, And you'd say, well,
their retail their consumers are offended by it. How is
that profitable? Because we were in a world of this
social scoring that you couldn't get loans or you couldn't
get insurance if you weren't getting a social score. There
was that type of nonsense going on, So these corporations
wanted to be on the right side of the social

(01:30:07):
score that financial institutions may be implemented to make their decision.

Speaker 1 (01:30:12):
Yeah, well, this one's surprised you. Among LBGTQEFG adults surveyed
in mid January, sixty eight percent said all are most
companies promoting pride do so because they think it's good
for business. Among non LGBTQ adult surveyed in mid February,
those shares were only fifty four percent.

Speaker 2 (01:30:32):
Well, now that the Trump administrations in this ESG thing,
this social score nonsense isn't going to go anywhere. So
now you actually do have to look at your customers.
And that's why you see MasterCard in City, and Nissan
and all these major corporations pulling back and withdrawing, and
many many more scaling back their participation in Pride festivals

(01:30:55):
because it does offend their customers.

Speaker 1 (01:30:57):
And several media outlists in this Talent and greg are
making a big deal that the governor issued a statement
about June but did not mention the LGBTQ community.

Speaker 3 (01:31:10):
Month.

Speaker 1 (01:31:10):
The proclamation saying we just need to come together, but
he never.

Speaker 2 (01:31:14):
Mentioned I think he I think the people you have
recoiled hard enough and long enough that I think the
governor is hearing the sentiments of the people that he's
the governor over here in Utah.

Speaker 1 (01:31:25):
Came out a little too moderate.

Speaker 2 (01:31:27):
Yes he did. Yeah, and there's been a lot of blowbacks.

Speaker 1 (01:31:30):
Orders went, so he didn't do anything about it. All right, man,
you don't wingman. Wednesday is tomorrow.

Speaker 2 (01:31:36):
I can't wait. Yeah, it's always a good show.

Speaker 1 (01:31:38):
It is all right. That does good for us. Tonight,
head out, shoulders back. May God bless you and your
family that great country of ours. Enjoy your Tuesday. We're
back tomorrow at four

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