The Rod and Greg Show: School Shooters/Families of Divorce; Trump Wins Border-Wall Funding Battle; Measuring Trumps Deportation Success

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Speaker 1 (00:00):
How long come everybody. It is the Rotten Gregg Show
right here on Utah's Talk Radio one oh five nine
kN arrest Wingman Wednesday. Just great to be with you
and can catch us live and the iHeartRadio app. Make
sure you downloaded today. I am Rod Arcatt.

Speaker 2 (00:13):
I'm citizen Greg Hughes. I will tell you that this
is I'm feeling particularly patriotic today. It's Swingman Wednesday. But man,
I'm seeing some stuff from across the pond. Oh that's
just turning my stomach. And I'll tell you what I think.
Winston Churchill is spinning in his grave at what that
country has become. Going to get into that in the
show here and kind of break it down for you.

Speaker 1 (00:35):
Yeah. Now, before we get to that, though, what would
you do with one point three billion dollars?

Speaker 2 (00:40):
Man? Oh, what I could do with that money. Oh
it would be and I would be the fun Whatever
George Soros says to the people on the left, I
would be its equivalent on the right. I would just
find every smart conservative effort in the world. I would
be so happy.

Speaker 1 (00:57):
Oh, I'd buy an island with a big boat and
a jet with a landing strip on that island, and
I may go.

Speaker 2 (01:05):
No, I had a joke. It's in poor taste. So
I won't even tell you who else liked to do
that that you don't want to know. I'm not going
to go there, but I'm going to tell.

Speaker 1 (01:14):
You you're you're insinuating I would set up you.

Speaker 2 (01:17):
Want to buy an island. I don't know anyone who
owns islands except for certain kinds. I don't know, but
I don't want to go there. I would never suggest
such a thing. I will say, if I won that
kind of money, rock, Oh my gosh, folks, we would
all you the listeners, we would all and have all
of our lives would improve. I promise you if I had,
if we won that kind of money, man, i'd be
a boss.

Speaker 1 (01:38):
I tell you, are they doing this up? And I know?
I wonder what the roads are like up to my lad?
And is it Evanston today?

Speaker 2 (01:44):
I hope? Is it the California power Ball?

Speaker 1 (01:47):
It's one of them, one of them.

Speaker 2 (01:49):
There's a big power ball in California. I know because
when I was there, everybody was talking about.

Speaker 1 (01:53):
One point three billion dollars.

Speaker 2 (01:55):
Man, that's a lot of It's a lot.

Speaker 1 (01:58):
Apparently there were four or five people who had the
four drawings correct last night, but they didn't have the
powerball number, but they each got a million dollars.

Speaker 2 (02:07):
That's not a bad consolation.

Speaker 3 (02:09):
Press.

Speaker 2 (02:09):
Oh, you get every single number except for the power
ball that would be kind of so close to a billion,
But you get a mill for for trying. That's that's
not bad.

Speaker 1 (02:18):
Feel bad about that. All right, We've got a lot
to give to to today. We're going to talk about
Trump's wins on the border wall and what he's been
able to do. It's pretty impressive. This is something greg
that nobody has talked about, and I think it's an
interesting story. You've got the link between school shooters and
they're divorced parents.

Speaker 2 (02:40):
Yes, it's interesting. This is an interesting it's.

Speaker 1 (02:43):
An interesting take, and nobody has talked about this, but
you can you know, not all school shooters are, you know,
children of a divorce, but there are several and our
guest will be talking about that and the connection between
the two.

Speaker 2 (02:57):
It's an interesting I think there's a culmination of issues.
But I I certinly think that as you look at
a poor child as they're growing up, if they're lacking
some of the foundational things that nature and I would
argue the God has put there to help a child
grow into an adult. When you're missing those building blocks,
that's where the real real problems begin. It's sad.

Speaker 1 (03:18):
Yeah, and we'll talk about that, the impact that has
on school shooters. That's coming up a little bit later on.
We'll talk about the Department of Defense. You won't believe
the amount of money DoD spent in the final days
of the Biden administration. Yeah, it's pretty amazing. We'll get
into that as well. So a lot to get to today.
As always, we invite you to be a part of
the program. It is Wingman Wednesday eight eight eight five

(03:40):
seven eight zero one zero cell phone dial pound two fifty,
or you can leave us a comment on our talkback
line as well. All right, this story out of England
is frightening. You have a comedian. His name is Graham Linum.
He was arrested by police the moment he stepped off
a plane in Heathrow. Apparently he was here in the
United States. Now. He's not well known here in America,

(04:01):
but apparently very popular comic in the UK. He's Irish.
He's written two very popular UK sitcoms, one called Father Ted,
the other one the it Crowd. He apparently committed the
crime by expressing his opinions about transgenderism and posting them online,
and apparently in the UK you cannot do that anymore.

Speaker 2 (04:24):
Yeah, it's I I tell you what. It is absolutely shocking.
And remember I mean when I was growing up in
the eighties, you know, the UK, London, they're a big
problem where these ira uh terrorists that would you blow
up things, they blow up things. That was terrorism. Then
now it's what you say online about certain protected classes
that will get you thrown in the clink. A comedian

(04:46):
thrown in jail over talking about these these social issues, which,
by the way, I think every comedian ever since there's
been comedians have always taken the touchy and the and
the issues, you know, the uncomfortable social issues, and they
have found parody, they have found humor, they have mocked.
That is what comedians do. Good comedians do to take

(05:06):
him when asking however he did, however he framed it,
and throw him in jail for it. I don't think
the Rod and Greg show can go remote in the
UK without us getting thrown in the clink.

Speaker 1 (05:16):
Should we fly over and see.

Speaker 2 (05:18):
No, I'm not gonna think. Let me tell you something.
You know, I love Winston Churchill, you know I love
Abby Bonel, but I'm not going over there. They You
saw that little girl fourteen year old has to throw
up an axe and a knife because some to protect
her degenerate is going after her and her sister, and
they're there and then she's the one with the knife
and then axe, trying to protect herself that they they apprehend,

(05:41):
not the not the degenerate going after him.

Speaker 1 (05:43):
What a frightening number. This is the UK according to
the story today, I think it's in the UK daily.
The UK now arrests as many as thirty people a
day for doing something like this comedian did. Thirty people
a day are being arrested for expressing their opinion.

Speaker 2 (05:58):
So what the UK ought to do is if this
is such a hair raising and threatening issues and they
should go after the platforms that they're on. Yeah, go
after the company. You don't go after these people. I mean,
how are you going to go find all the different
people that have different opinions about all the different issues
social issues going on in this world. It's insane. I'm
telling you. They have lost their moorings that country.

Speaker 1 (06:19):
Well, one woman got a thirty one month sentence for
an offensive tweet. Thirty one months.

Speaker 2 (06:26):
You know that flying the British flag is considered taunting
and that's illegal. Really, they can't even fly their own
flag without getting in trouble. Wow, because it seemed as harassment.

Speaker 1 (06:36):
I remember Greg yet this was I think back in
February of this year, Sixty Minutes did a story on
what's going on in Germany and basically the same thing
is happening. You have an organization now in the German
government who analyzes tweets and decides as to whether or
not they're offensive and could lead to legal action against
the person who tweeted the information out. This is going

(06:57):
on all around Europe. You fear someday, well, we hope
it never happens here, but you never know what somebody
may try and do here in the United States.

Speaker 2 (07:07):
I think it's I think it's a scam because if
you really didn't want that speech to be shared broadly
on social media, then you would go out, you would
hold those because then in the United States we're different.
We have this freedom of speech. That's why these companies
are domiciled in the United States, they have certain legal protections.
But if you get outside the United States and you're
in a country like the UK, they could go after

(07:27):
those companies for publishing that. And because the algorithms now
are so good at really you know, whether it's shadow
banning or just banning people, they can't. They are publishers,
in my opinion, not platforms, and they should go after
those those if they are serious about getting rid of
that speech. I don't agree with getting rid of that speech,
but if you're serious about it, you'd go after those companies,
not these individuals. Yeah, because I think going after the individuals,

(07:51):
first you're not going to get rid of the speech.
And second, you're chasing your tail trying to chase all
these people, but you're scaring everyone. You're becoming this draconian,
very dark, authoritarian government that you know is supposed to
I think on purpose. It is supposed to create fear
so that you will comply.

Speaker 1 (08:08):
And you've got Democrats in this country who are accusing
Donald Trump of being an authoritarian. Has he done anything
like this, No, he wants he wants free speech, he
wants an exchange of ideas. But they're accusing him of
being an authoritarian or a dictator. Rob Schneider, you know,
the comedian Rob Schneider, Apparently he's been working with this
guy on some comedy stuff here in the US, and

(08:29):
he was on I think the Will Kane Show earlier today,
was shocked that this guy gets off the plane and
is arrested by five police officers right away.

Speaker 2 (08:38):
It's out of this world, stupid and it shouldn't happen.
And I honestly look at a country like countries like
North Korea, China, and I go at least they're intellectually honest.
They're saying, we're communists, we have a heavy hand and
we're not afraid to use it. Countries like the UK,
Countries like Australia, these countries that a is Germany, that

(08:59):
are supposed to respect individual rights to some degree, and
what they're doing and throwing people in jail for saying
what they're saying, and by the way, what they're saying
really especially, I mean you guy like Malcolm Gladwell who
wrote Tipping Points some of those those novels, who's a
critical thinker and he's known for this critical thinking, has
admitted that he had said that he thought that these

(09:21):
boys playing girls sports was acceptable, and has apologized. He says,
I feel ashamed that I ever said that boys have
no place and women's sports he is saying that now.
But in the protection of the United States.

Speaker 1 (09:33):
Pretty amazing, all right. When we come back, we'll talk
about how Donald Trump is winning the border war. It's
done a great job, and we'll talk about it coming
up on the Wingman edition Wingman Wednesday edition of the
Rot and Greg Joe on Utah's Talk Radio one oh
five nine knrs. You know, Greg, it seems like no
matter what Donald Trump tries to do, everything he tries
to do, someone's going to take it to court and

(09:55):
usually win, at least temporarily.

Speaker 2 (09:57):
Yeah, they got a bunch of liberal judges on the
first you know, the first, first row, second row before
they can get to a court. That's fair. Yes, yea,
it happens.

Speaker 1 (10:05):
A federal appeals court yesterday ruled that the Trump administration
cannot speed the deportations of migrants accused of being members
of the trend dea Rugua game using an eighteenth century wartime.

Speaker 2 (10:17):
Look, you know I find so bizarre about that. We
just had video of the trend guys escaping Venezuela trying
to bring all those drugs over and we just wipe
the boat out. And I got a great clip from
Rubio trying to explain that. And today's the day they
say none of that is actually military, military or justified
militarily while there the military is actually working on Yeah.

Speaker 1 (10:38):
Kind of interesting. Well, let me tell you what, There
is no doubt that Donald Trump has made a unbelievable
effort to control the border, especially the border with Mexico.
And joining us on our newsmaker line to talk about
how we did it is Steve Dinan. He's with the
Washington Times. Steven, always great to have you on this show.
How did he do it? I mean, what did he
do and how was he able to accomplishment? Steven really fascinating.

(11:00):
The wall has been.

Speaker 4 (11:02):
First term campaign promise, probably the most visible promise of
his first term, and it was a massive fight, right
He battled to the longest government shutdown in history over
his demand for at that point five billion dollars in
border wall money. Led to a government shutdown. He never
got Congress to give him that much money. He ended

(11:22):
up having to declare an emergency and safe in money
from the Pentagon to do all sorts of crazy things.
And then here over this past summer he got forty
six billion dollars with barely a blip here in Washington
as part of his One Big, Beautiful Bill Act. And
it's a really spectacular story about just he completely has
won the border wall issue among the American public and

(11:45):
among Congress.

Speaker 2 (11:47):
You know, one of the narratives is, well, you don't
need a physical wall. There's so much technology and drones
and infrared. There's a lot of things you can do
through technology that would be even more effective than a wall.
The other narrative is do the wall, and you do
all the good technology around that wall to have all
of that. It's not an either or where do you fall?
As you've looked into this, is that do you need

(12:09):
a wall border to border or is there some combination?

Speaker 4 (12:12):
Yeah, so three things about that. First is, you don't
need a wall border to border. There are some areas
where you just you know, the terrain is is just
impassable or at least makes a wall impossible to build.

Speaker 3 (12:25):
The point of a wall, the point.

Speaker 4 (12:27):
Of a physical barrier is to funnel people, and it's
not you know, people absolutely can still climb the wall.
People can can cut through the bollage with enough time.
People are surmounting or going through the wall given enough time.
But the entire point of the wall is to is
to shape and funnel where they come across, so that
agents can be there ready to get them, ready to

(12:48):
nab them when they do come across. The best with
the best possible wall actually is is two. Or in
San Diego and some other urban areas, they have three
walls stacked on top of each other. What you do
when you when you have the two I mean, and
it's a meaning stacked one behind each other, so so
sort of in parallel. And what you do is, you know,
they get across the first wall, they get across the

(13:09):
first thirty foot wall, and there's you know whatever, there's
fifty feet between that, and suddenly they come up against
another twenty foot or thirty foot wall and they're trapped
in that corridor while it takes them whatever at time
they have to get to ereck another ladder or cut
through the second wall or whatnot. Border patrol agents there's
a high speed road in between those two walls. It's
like a shooting gallery for border patrol agent to drive up. Oh,

(13:31):
got some more trying to get through the second wall.

Speaker 3 (13:32):
We got them. That's the point of barriers.

Speaker 4 (13:35):
You funnel where the people are coming across, and then
the agents can get there and make the arrest. In particular,
when you have the flows as little as they are
right now on the border, agents are able to get
just about everybody who's coming across. The number of god
aways drops dramatically because the agents are able to get
there and get to them. Look, you know, there are
a couple other things that I didn't have in the

(13:56):
story that I haven't written yet, but I'll tell your listeners.
I'm seeing in I track court documents about the smuggling
cases that the agents pursue in the Southwest border, and
I'm seeing things I've never seen before. The amount of
time that agents are able to invest in tracking down
the smugglers and investing in warrants and GPS tracking devices

(14:18):
on vehicles, the types of surveillance they're doing. It's they
have never had this sort of time before to invest
in these cases.

Speaker 3 (14:27):
So you solve the number of people.

Speaker 4 (14:29):
If you lower the number of people coming across, suddenly
everything about the border can become more secure. It's I
mean what we're seeing in terms of the numbers of
people coming across right now. You know there are days
when you have fewer than one hundred and fifty people
actually crossing across all one nine hundred and fifty miles
of border. I've covered this season for twenty five years.

(14:49):
I never could have imagined we'd see those numbers. I'll
tell you one other anecdote. Two thousand and three, I
was down on the border with a couple of members
of Congress in Arizona.

Speaker 3 (14:58):
We stated a ranch.

Speaker 4 (14:59):
It was a little maybe about ten miles north of
the border, had about five miles of border facing but
ten miles north. We went out in a couple of
pickup trucks one night and maybe two hours of driving
around this ranch, so five miles of the border. We
alone encountered more than two hundred illegal immigrants coming through
this part of Arizona, just you know, a couple of

(15:19):
us in trucks.

Speaker 3 (15:20):
They're just zooming around the border.

Speaker 4 (15:22):
Patrol on several days in the month of July across
one nine hundred and fifty four miles saw fewer people
than we did. It's unfathomable. There are no words to
describe that change.

Speaker 1 (15:33):
Well, I know he talked a couple of weeks ago,
Steven about, you know, painting it black. But where are
we on what's the status of the wall itself for
the areas that they want built? Are we close? Are
we still several months, a year or two away? Where
are we on the wall right now, Steve, We're a
long way.

Speaker 4 (15:49):
So President Trump left office with about seven hundred miles
of the border with some sort of barrier protecting it,
and that was because he directed about four hundred fift
the additional miles during his time, a lot of that
replacing outdated border that was already there. But so, you know,
we were somewhere on the order six hundred and fifty
to seven hundred miles that had some sort of barrier

(16:10):
along it. There are one hundred miles in construction as
of right now, thanks to money that was left over
when President Biden stopped construction. There was money left over
that went unused for four years. Most of it. He
actually was forced to do a couple of miles. But anyway,
so one hundred miles is currently in planning or construction
thanks to that old money. And now there's forty six

(16:32):
billion dollars to finish it out. So it's going to
take time. It's going to take years to actually get
Remember the first four year term, they erected four hundred
and fifty miles of wall, and even that wasn't the
entire wall system. They actually that was the number of
miles of panel, but only about one hundred and fifty miles.
I'm forgetting the exact number, but it was only maybe

(16:53):
a third of that that actually had the sensors and
the lighting and the technology that you were talking about
earlier that they can consider part of the wall system.
So there's a lot of work still to be done
and it will take time.

Speaker 2 (17:06):
Stephen quickly. Will this survive at different administration being in charge?
Is this administration proof? Is this a is this going
to be a secure border? Or will it depend on
the priorities of a kind of an incoming administration?

Speaker 3 (17:19):
Really good question.

Speaker 4 (17:20):
So the infrastructure itself will survive, right, and it doesn't
mean that it gets updated the way it should. But
you know, whatever he ends up with, say a thousand
to twelve hundred miles of fencing and barrier, you know
that physical stuff will survive. Even Biden didn't tear down
existing portions of the wall, but everything else we talked about,
the willingness to impose consequences, to impose stiff consequences.

Speaker 3 (17:45):
That may not survive.

Speaker 4 (17:47):
The only the only sort of good news for its survivability,
and this is you know, the reason Trump won the
border wall fight wasn't so much Donald Trump winning it.

Speaker 3 (17:55):
Joe Biden lost it.

Speaker 4 (17:56):
The last four years of those unfathomable numbers of people
coming up cross That's what changed the politics of the
border wall. People looked and said, Okay, yeah, Donald Trump
clearly did better than Biden on that. Donald Trump did
this right. So you know, if there is a way
that this gets locked in and proofed against the future administration,
it's because, you know, success is so obvious that it

(18:19):
might make it tough for a future administration to on one.

Speaker 1 (18:21):
Stephen Dune and joining us on our newsmaker lying. Thank you,
Steven from the Washington Times. More of the Wingman. Wednesday
edition of The Rotten Greg Show coming out. All right,
let's talk about the school shooting in Minneapolis last week.
There's some disturbing and you watch this video, Greg, and
it's disturbing. The gun shop security footage, footage showing the

(18:42):
Annunciation Church shooter buying his weapons at a gunshop.

Speaker 2 (18:48):
And it's just had a ton I mean, I don't know,
I mean how long that video is, but there's there
are quite a few weapons.

Speaker 1 (18:54):
Yeah, quite a few picked up. Kind of disturbing to see. Well,
you know, there are a number of angles that we've
explored Greg when it comes to the shooting, but one
nobody is really talking about it. And that's why I
wanted to bring our next guest on because she is
writing about it. Her name is Beverly Willett, and she
wrote in The Federalist the Connection between divorce and school shootings,

(19:15):
and she's joining us on our newsmaker line right now. Beverly,
how are you welcome to the Rod and Greg Show.

Speaker 5 (19:21):
I'm great? How are you?

Speaker 6 (19:22):
Thanks?

Speaker 1 (19:23):
Beverly? Why are more people trying to make this connection?
What are they so afraid of?

Speaker 5 (19:29):
You mean, why are people afraid of the divorce connection? Yeah?

Speaker 1 (19:32):
Yeah? Why are they refusing to talk about this connection.

Speaker 5 (19:37):
Because they want to keep the divorce pipeline going that's
been going for fifty five years and with a publishing company,
companies and journalists selling the you know, I deserve to
be happy and self fulfilled, because I think it means
that you, as parents, you have to say, ooh, I

(19:57):
can't just do what I want, or maybe if I'm
it's not happy in my marriage, I can't just get out.
I think it causes self reflection. I mean, I happen
to be posting on social media and I got all
this kind of flat rationalization. I don't think parents, no
parent wants this to happen to their children. I mean,
I think we can be honest about that. Of course

(20:19):
they don't. But too many and not only parents, the
policymakers have really been putting their head in the sand
about the negative consequences of no fault divorce for going
on five decades now, and things are bubbling up, and
we have so much data on the negative consequences, and
now we're starting to see that there's a connection with

(20:39):
violent boys. We have to address this.

Speaker 2 (20:43):
You know, I have a unique perspective and that my
mother was a single mother when I was born and raised,
and she got married and then divorced, and so I
have some sisters that have gone through the divorce part.
And then I have been married for thirty two years
and have three children and adults now where we're not divorced,
so I've seen kind of all the different perspectives of
different types of families. I don't know why people get defensive.

(21:07):
Isn't it intuitive that if you have a mom and
a father, mother and a father and you're raising children,
I mean, you can help each other. There's kind of
like some you know, some backup there, and that that
would produce a healthier child just naturally. Why do why
are people getting so defensive? Why do you do you
think you're getting the feedback on you know, on the
posts and everything about your your work and your study

(21:27):
on this.

Speaker 3 (21:30):
Well.

Speaker 5 (21:30):
As I said, I think it's just because we have
a culture now where uh this individual freedom and we
don't want to have anything in our way that puts
puts a puts a block between that. And we also
have if you check, if you look at it, because
I've been writing in this area for about two decades now,

(21:51):
you have the perpetuation of this myth of the good divorce.
You have this perpetuation of this myth that if I
am personally happy year, my children will be happier. Okay,
And you see that constantly being fed to people. Because
I've even seen kids. You know, I've seen some adult

(22:12):
kids say, well, you know, I wish my parents had
gotten a divorce. Well maybe maybe you heard them argue,
but maybe if it wasn't a violent home, which it
doesn't seem to be, maybe you wouldn't have gone to college,
Maybe you wouldn't be Okay, right now, people don't think
that extra step, that maybe the protective value of your parents,

(22:34):
who weren't just feeling like Cinderella and Prince Charming anymore,
But it was okay that that actually they did something
very valuable for you and your future. And you know
a lot of adult children of divorce are now speaking
out about that, speaking about the value of that and
also you know, the effects that it had on them.

(22:55):
I mean, we have tons of data, but now we're
starting to really hear from those people in their own words.
Is very important.

Speaker 1 (23:01):
Beverly, you said, we have tons of data on this.
Can you point to one or two studies that really
bring to like this issue maybe as clear as any
time before any of the studies involved.

Speaker 5 (23:13):
Well, you know there was in my article I mentioned
a twenty eighteen international study, but I would really point
everyone to the work at the Institute of family Studies
in Virginia under Brad Wilcox that's been done over several decades.
He's done a couple of studies just particularly on this
issue about the connection between family breakdown and violence in

(23:36):
our communities and the number of school shooters who actually
came from broken homes. I mean, it's pretty eerie if
you start looking at that data on their website. There's
also another study that just came out in twenty twenty
four that shows that young men from non intech families

(23:57):
are more likely to land in prison or than they
are to graduate from college. So that's a new study
that just came out in twenty twenty four.

Speaker 2 (24:06):
So school shootings, that's a pretty extreme and there is
you show a link. It's a very strong one. But
what are some of the violent symptoms or tendencies that
could that wouldn't be a school shooting, but would really
be something we should be paying attention to in tracking
with these these children emerging from divorced homes.

Speaker 5 (24:25):
Yes, and that, of course not all kids are going
to wind up being school shooters or I should say boys,
because it's ninety percent are males. But we have so
many other devastating consequences of no fault divorce too. We
have poverty, we have depression, increased rates of depression, anxiety,

(24:47):
substance abuse both drugs and both alcohol and drugs, increased smoking.
We have generational divorce. We have a long jef A
study that was done with kids over eight decades showing
that likelihood of dying five years earlier than their peers.

(25:15):
That's huge and that's been out for like a decade.
That came out of the University of California. It is
such a marvelous study, the biggest longitude tudinal study that
was ever done and people are still ignoring it.

Speaker 1 (25:27):
Wow. Beverly, great conversation. Thank you for that article. We
appreciate your time.

Speaker 5 (25:31):
Thank you, Thank you very much.

Speaker 1 (25:33):
On our Newsmaker line, that's Beverly Willett. She is an author,
litigator and copyright attorney, talking about the link between divorce
and school shooters. Mark coming up on the Rowden Greg
Show and Utah's Talk Radio one oh five Dying Knrs.
You have weird sleeping habits. It's weird, yes, because we
have we have a morning show called Many People Know

(25:56):
every morning at about eight thirty, right, and I've called
before and you're still sleeping.

Speaker 2 (26:00):
Sometimes, well it's not my fault that there are some
shows that you just start to binge watch and you can't,
and at times it traps you because you don't even
get to consciously choose to watch the next episode. It
starts to countdown.

Speaker 3 (26:11):
Yeah, Hi, there is stop.

Speaker 2 (26:15):
There's a bit of a cliffhanger, you know.

Speaker 1 (26:17):
One.

Speaker 2 (26:18):
Oh I'm in, Yeah, I'm in. Take it out? Ho
there I go. Yeah, you know that's they do that
on purpose. Real just a victim. Really, I'm part of
the victim class. I'm trying to be a democrat.

Speaker 1 (26:27):
Yeah, let's see. You have what do you call it?
Clock blindness or time.

Speaker 2 (26:30):
Blind time blindness. It's a real disability. And I need accommodation.

Speaker 1 (26:33):
And now you can't go to sleep at night because
you get hooked in.

Speaker 2 (26:37):
I do lose.

Speaker 1 (26:38):
You're an advertiser's dream. Uh. The average bedtime for Americans?
The average bedtime? Do you know what it is?

Speaker 2 (26:46):
I hope it's one am.

Speaker 1 (26:47):
Eleven thirty seven pm.

Speaker 2 (26:50):
Eleven thirty. What eleven thirty seven pm? Oh, that's pretty specific,
seven not eleven thirty. You're still wide awake at eleven
thirty eleven forty. Your sound asleep?

Speaker 1 (26:59):
Seven. I cannot I sat long anymore. Now I'm to
bed by ten or ten. The other night went to
bed like twenty to ten. Did you really, I'm just tired.

Speaker 7 (27:07):
You know.

Speaker 2 (27:07):
Queen Bee likes to go to bed earlier, but I liked.
I'm a bit of a night out.

Speaker 1 (27:10):
Yeah. Yeah. The average duration of sleep less than seven hours.

Speaker 2 (27:15):
Yeah, six is all you need?

Speaker 1 (27:17):
No, no, no, no, six They say seven to nine
is what you need. Every day.

Speaker 2 (27:21):
I was getting less than six hours for years, and
then I started getting My doctor said you gotta get
six hours. Since I've been getting six hours, I feel
like a new man. Really, if you get six hours, No,
that's funny. I'm hopping. I just need six that's all
I need.

Speaker 1 (27:33):
What time do you get up in the well? I
know what time? It depends.

Speaker 2 (27:38):
You're all up in my business right now, trying to
tell everyone when I wake up. Yeah, it depends.

Speaker 1 (27:42):
See, I'm an early riser. I get up five to
thirty six.

Speaker 2 (27:45):
Yeah, I don't in the morning.

Speaker 1 (27:47):
There's something And that's why, right, that's why I probably
go to bed at ten or ten thirty.

Speaker 2 (27:51):
That would that would be that would.

Speaker 1 (27:54):
Probably get a good seven hours of sleep.

Speaker 2 (27:56):
If I can't seven, don't be so soft, I guess.
But folks, I'm we get it.

Speaker 1 (28:01):
It's good.

Speaker 2 (28:02):
Are we going to we have another minute because I
want to nark you out? No, yeah, okay, I'm want
to nark you out. We got okay, thirty seconds. Guess
what we were talking today? And the first thing he says,
you'll never believe. I think. I think that Taylor Swift
is with child. That's why they're getting married. I said,
what are you talking about? That's why Travis Kelsey's marrying
her because she's she's trying, she has a baby bump,
and she's hiding it. He really thinks about this stuff.

(28:23):
Him and all the fourteen year olds in Utah are
thinking about Taylor Swift and whether she's pregnant or not.
I can't believe he even brought it up as a topic.
And yet he doesn't care at all about Taylor Swift.
He doesn't care. He is a Swifties to end all Swifties.
You just need to know this is.

Speaker 1 (28:36):
News, folks. I this is just pure speculation. Every sing
information that comes out about here, here he brings up
and yet he's not a fan. I know why you
know why why because they've annoyed that he guy.

Speaker 2 (28:48):
You just bring this up. It's like, I've never even
thought of that, and you it's a big conspiracy. You
have it all set up. You think she's pregnant.

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Speaker 1 (29:40):
Can you two things? Greg? Can you believe the the
the left going as crazy as they have been over
the past several days about the report over the weekend
that Donald Trump is dead.

Speaker 2 (29:53):
It's so weird. It's it's actually beyond weird. It's morbid,
and it's it's it's wrong. I mean, I don't know
where that started. Bit, you know, talking about the present
being dead is just I don't know, you want to
be that person?

Speaker 1 (30:06):
Yeah, yeah, Well Kimmel and Colbert back last night, of course, yes,
because they didn't do a show on Labor Day and
they just had a field day with this. People were
cheering that he's that he's dead.

Speaker 2 (30:19):
Well, you know, I'm going to tell you that. I
just think that you can make try to make light
of that, you can try to make fun of that,
but I don't think history is going to remember those
people very fond. I think it's I think it's a
little over the top. Yeah.

Speaker 1 (30:31):
Now, the story of the day. You know, people are
just getting in their car driving home tonight, right and
had a rough day at work. We thought we'd share
with you just a lighthearted story before we go into
other things. The story and Clay and Buck were talking
about this earlier today. There is a little five year
old boy in Florida. Yes, okay, he woke up one morning.

(30:54):
Nobody else had woken up as of yet, and he
was hungry and he wanted a breakfast sandwich from Chick
fil A. So he's five years old, okay. Somehow he
gets out of his house apparently unlocked the front door,
was able to get out of. It's a gated I
mean there are gates all around the house and fences, right,

(31:15):
somehow he was able to get through those and walk
down to the local Chick fil A, which is only
a couple blocks away, sat down and wanted a sandwich.
This was about six o'clock in the morning, all by himself,
All by himself, he wanted a sandwich, right, is.

Speaker 2 (31:30):
Not good for him? That kid's very independent. You think
he's going places, literally to Chick fil A. He's going places.

Speaker 1 (31:37):
Well, apparently the sandwiches are so good. And I like
Chick fil a sandwiches as well. Yeah, they're good. But
the restaurant manager thought it was rather unusual that at
six o'clock in the morning, a little five year old
boy came walking through the door wanted breakfast. Mom and
dad were nowhere to be seen. One might wonder, Yeah,

(31:58):
one might wonder, so what happened day? Well, police were
called in. Here's here. They told the story about what happened.

Speaker 3 (32:04):
Where you live. Okay, we gathered him up.

Speaker 1 (32:07):
Look at that. Thank you California.

Speaker 8 (32:10):
I welcome him to the back of my patrol car. No,
I'm not going to put you in jail. And we
started taking the ears.

Speaker 3 (32:17):
All rightbody, where's your house at.

Speaker 9 (32:19):
We're wondering where did this child come from? None of
these doors are open, none of these garages are open.

Speaker 8 (32:27):
So then he explained that he had a white fence
right here, and that's when we pulled up in the
traub way. And then we realized that the call box
wasn't working. We had no way to get through the gate.

Speaker 1 (32:39):
How about that.

Speaker 9 (32:45):
My initial thoughts were, I can't believe he came out
of here. It's the most secure house on that block,
in reference to having a fence all the way around front,
back sides.

Speaker 3 (32:57):
And Victoria good Loring. Will Yeah, a little.

Speaker 4 (33:03):
Boy, our five year old William had an adventure a
few weeks ago, and we lived nearby, very close.

Speaker 3 (33:10):
Yeah, he was.

Speaker 6 (33:12):
No, we haven't been our police carty.

Speaker 9 (33:14):
You could just see the look on his face. It
would be for any parent, including myself. It's disbelief.

Speaker 1 (33:20):
Disbelief is not the word to describe what this little
guy did.

Speaker 2 (33:25):
Yeah, that's cute.

Speaker 1 (33:26):
Well, look, you don't know. In some states he'd be
the parents would be arrested.

Speaker 2 (33:30):
Well, we had to do like the free range kid.
We've done that so that so that the parents don't
get in trouble when these kids get that and get
a streak of independence like that and start forging out
on their own. Now that I didn't look, he didn't
have any dough. What was he gonna pay for with?

Speaker 1 (33:45):
I don't know. Well, maybe he did take something didn't.

Speaker 2 (33:48):
Say, didn't say.

Speaker 1 (33:49):
I may haven't said. He may have tapped into the
piggy bank.

Speaker 2 (33:52):
You know this kid. I'm actually proud of that kid.
I think that kid's going place he is.

Speaker 1 (33:57):
He was sitting there in uh in Chick fil A
and his Pam, still.

Speaker 2 (34:02):
You have a son? Yes, yeah? Would you like to
have him back?

Speaker 1 (34:06):
Yeah? Yes, yes, yeah, I thought it was cute. When
the kid was being taken to the police car, he asked,
am I going to be put in jail? Yeah?

Speaker 2 (34:14):
You know, I always tell you, man, when I'm when
my nieces and nephews for whatever reason. If we're all
at church together and my niece's nephews are being loud,
I'm like, they're calling the cops. You're disturbing the piece.
It's it's against the law. They're called, they've already called
the cops. They're on their way. I try to always
scare them with cops are coming.

Speaker 1 (34:30):
Yeah, yeah, you ever your children they call police.

Speaker 2 (34:35):
Not my kids. No, No, that's not because I spoil them.
But they're just they're not.

Speaker 1 (34:39):
I just they're police worthy.

Speaker 2 (34:41):
No, I just handle it. Although I again I love to,
like I said on if Santa comes in the here
on Christmasy, if he comes this out, that's breaking in
entery and that is against the law. And I'm going
to tell you I'm yes, I said this. This is
Sannah gets away with murder, and he comes, he eats
all our cookies and our milk, and he eats and
he doesn't clean up after I'm done with this home invasion.

(35:02):
Every single year, we got to having a home invasion
by this bearded guy. It's breaking and entering and it's
not allowed. Dad, don't I'm gonna call the cops on
your teasing your case.

Speaker 1 (35:12):
Obviously obviously all right, Uh, the effort to make Chicago safer,
it amazes both you and I. I believe that the
Democrats greg are putting some up such a fight about this.
Even Donald Trump said yesterday get ready because we're coming.

Speaker 2 (35:28):
Yes, And look, I think that there's there's a bunch
I have a bunch of thoughts about this, but one
of them is just him saying that he just smokes
out these Democrats where they're going to be totally like
Pritzker now says, it's a manufactured crisis. So fifty what
do we got to hear? Am I looking at fifty
something dead?

Speaker 1 (35:47):
Four shot, fifty eight?

Speaker 2 (35:48):
I got fifty eight shot and eight dead. This is
the latest numbers. Okay, so fifty eight shot, eight dead.
If the governor wants to stand by, that's a manufactured crisis.
Fifty eight shot with and that's over the Labor Day holiday.
It is a self indictment of him. I mean, that's
and so he wouldn't have volunteered that information that he

(36:08):
doesn't give a wit about fifty eight people being shot,
and he does not care at all that eight people
have died. He'd never volunteer that information to anybody. But
because Trump says we can't have that kind of crime,
I got to do something about it. If they're not,
it smokes him out and he has to say to
everybody how much he cares less about and how he
doesn't think it's real that there's any kind of emergency
when fifty eight people are shot and eight people are dead.

(36:31):
So mission accomplished on that front. However, I will say
that if the governor ultimately and that mayor do not
want these National Guard to come into that state unless
they are protecting a federal asset like a federal building,
a federal courthouse, or a federal ice detention center or
ice agents themselves, or any federal law enforcement and they're

(36:53):
doing that and there's a federal nexus, great, But if
they're coming in to just restore law and order like
they did in DC, I don't think they have the
authority to do it. And I really fear that if
they if they were to try, because there's talk about
the Texas National Guard coming in that you could see violence,
you could see shootings, you could see some of these
members of the National Guard shot harmed or worse. And

(37:16):
I there is where the America will look at Trump
and say, I think this was too high of a price.
I don't. We didn't sign up to see these National
Guard members be killed and those lunatics that are prone
to violence. Because they got a governor cheering them on
and a mayor that seems to be cheering on them
and not the National Guard or Trump, They're going to
think they have the support of the mayor and the

(37:38):
governor to to you know, enact crime or to impose
crime on or violence on the military or the National Guard.
I think it's a disaster. I think that the point's
been made. I think that that Pritzker and that mayor
have shown their true colors. Go work inside those states
where the mayors, where the governors want to work with you.

Speaker 1 (37:58):
Yeah. Well, I have a lot of other thoughts on
that we need to break and then we'll come back
because I've got I want to share some thoughts on this,
and we want to get your thoughts. I mean, would
you feel comfortable with the president saying national Guard? He's
already said we're coming Greg, I know, going to Chicago.
Is he overstepping his authority there?

Speaker 2 (38:16):
Yeah?

Speaker 1 (38:16):
There are constitutional questions about this.

Speaker 2 (38:18):
I Still there's a part of me that thinks he
still troll on them. He wants them to keep just
with them, keep wanting them to call out and say
how much they think none of this matters, and that
don't come in here and really have them on the
wrong side of public safety. I hope that's the strate.

Speaker 1 (38:31):
Yeah, well, I've got a couple additional thoughts, and of
course we'd like to hear from you tonight. This question
about Donald Trump sending the National Guard into Chicago. Should
he do it there? Should he do it to other cities?
Eight eight eight five seven eight zero one zero eight
eight eight five seven eight zero one zero cell phone
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(38:52):
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Speaker 2 (39:02):
It called the Sleezy Bar. It wasn't very sleezy, but
it was a It was a bar in Top Gun
the First movie eight nineteen eighty six, and two scenes
there the Great Balls of Fire. Piano they're playing with
the whether you know, with Meg Ryan and the wife
and and very good by the way, yes, and the
little boy who ends up being you know, Rooster who's
in Maverick. But then the the at the end of

(39:22):
the movie. The juke box that you lost that level
the juke box here is a juke box there still.
I can report. I can report to you that that
box each there. Yes, they sell T shirts. They sell
a number of items. And I did buy this.

Speaker 1 (39:35):
You buy them all or just the T shirt?

Speaker 2 (39:37):
I bought one other item? Yes, you see you ghostjuvenir
shopping a day. There's a sucker born every day when
I go to some of these places. I'm I'm every
every minute. It's like a newborn day.

Speaker 1 (39:52):
All right. Now, if you're just joining and us, we're
talking about the debate over you know, the President sending
me in National Guard troops to us. Your a couple
of thoughts I have. First of all, the DC mayor
and wants to extend the cooperation with the National Guard.
They you know, they want safe streets. You have Louisiana,
which has a high crime rate. Senator John Kennedy said

(40:15):
the other day, bring them on down if you want
to come help US fight crime in New Orleans. We
can do that now. There's a story out today. You've
got several Republican governors who have sent National Guard troops
to Washington to help, you know, bring Pete to that
city and stop the crime. They have high crime rates
as well. Why aren't they using National Guard troops in

(40:37):
their own My last question is Greg, how long do
they stay in Washington, DC? And if they go into Chicago,
how long do they stay there? A point you made
before the break. Are we putting our national Guard troops
in harm's way by going into cities who do not
want them? There a lot of questions about it.

Speaker 2 (40:56):
Yeah, we know that these leftists are violent by nature.
The violence this is not violence from both sides of
the isle. And the Republicans and Democrats are violent. No, no, no, no,
The leftists are violent. They're the ones attacking Tesla takedowns.
They're the ones that are burning down buildings. They're the
ones that the summer of twenty where they burnt down
everything in their you know, Capitol Hill, Autonomous Zones, everything else, ye, Antifa,

(41:19):
you name it. They're the violent ones. If they have
a governor and a mayor of Chicago If they have
a governor of Illinois and a mayor of Chicago that
has just spent the last number of weeks saying do
not come here and have been adversarial towards the President
and his actions, these violent people are going to think
they have the support of the Democrats inside that state

(41:41):
and that will provoke them even more to act out
and to be even more violent. And I that's where
I think things. This doesn't just the tone would change
very quickly, I think with Americans. And by the way,
I think that Trump's not oblivious to this, because I
think he said today, maybe I forget Chicago and down
to New Orleans. Yeah, it looks like we're wanted down there,

(42:03):
We're needed, so maybe we go there. So I think
he's open to it. I do think if it's against
the will of the governor. It is not the same
situation as Washington, d C. And it's not the same
situation as in the La riots, where those riots had
already ensued. They had lost complete control of public safety
the LA County Sheriff as well as LAPD and who
did when Trump deployed not only the National Guard but

(42:26):
the military, it was to protect the federal law enforcement
officials and federal assets like ice detention facilities.

Speaker 1 (42:32):
Yeah. Well, Jason Riley, who writes in the Wall Street
Journal terrific articles this morning, the simple solution to violent
crime more cops.

Speaker 2 (42:40):
Yes, you imagine that. Oh does that sounds that sound crazy?

Speaker 1 (42:44):
I mean that is just crazy. He ended his peace
today and we both agree on this. National Guard troops
are not a long term fix. We would agree with that, right.
But mister Trump has performed a public service by calling
attention to the problem and osheren state and local leaders
to act. Now what do they say? What's the mayor

(43:05):
of Chicago say every time? If we had more affordable housing?

Speaker 2 (43:10):
Yeah, answers are farcical, there's they They are just out.
He is what what Trump is doing right now. Even
with the those you know, the trende Aragua cartel members
in the boat from Venezuela, they blew up. You've got
the democrats, these leftists, elitists, democrats and the regime media.
They are defending the law, you know, the crime in

(43:31):
these big cities. They're defending the cartel smugglers of drugs
into this country. Now they think, oh, it's so sad
that you blew up their boat. I mean, there's nothing
he could that the President can't proffer as a way
to help everyday Americans that the Democrats can't come out with,
you know, full fledged, full throated opposition to and it's

(43:52):
making them look insane. And so I think he I
think there's a strategy there. But when push comes to shove,
I'll tell you this, whatever he does, if there's a
Democrat elected in America one day, which there will be,
I would not want them to think because President Trump
back in twenty five was able to deployed National Guard
troops wherever you wanted that, whatever reason a Democrat president
would want to do it. Yeah, then the President's been

(44:13):
set and they can just go ahead and sentiment in
any place they want.

Speaker 1 (44:16):
Yeah, let's go to the phones. SEO, would you have
to say eight eighty eight five seven eight zero one
zero dial pound two fifty, say hey Rod, or you
can leave a comment on our talk back line as well.
Let's go to the phones. We begin in Roy with
Dane tonight here on the Rod on Greg Show. Dane,
how are you? Thanks for calling him? What are your
thoughts on this?

Speaker 6 (44:34):
I'm knowing great? Thanks for having me on one hand.
I agree with Greg on the downside, the dangers of
having the National Guarden of those areas.

Speaker 1 (44:42):
Yeah.

Speaker 6 (44:43):
But on the other end of the spectrum and the
other side of the coin is when you do that
and you have the same results that they have in Washington,
d C. Most of these cities that are you know,
maybe lean a little democratic there are you know, people
there and the moderates, the people that are kind of

(45:05):
on either side, depending on how well things go for them,
are going to see that result and you kind of
galvanize that state. Now, the downside is on Trump if
if it goes badly what like Greg was saying. The
upside though, is for jad Vans and his twenty twenty

(45:26):
eight presidency.

Speaker 2 (45:26):
In my opinion, yeah, yeah, Dan, I don't disagree. I
actually I think if you so, I think the best
example of what Dane is describing is Washington, d C.
So Mayor Bowser, she came out and said, we don't
need this, we don't want this. And now Crimes sees
the different. Now she sees the difference. Now she's saying,
but that's a federal district. There's a different relationship there
than than you have in these other cities. Minimally. I think.

(45:49):
By the way, when they listed all those cities, everyone's
crying saying that they're all Democrats. They're Utah was listed
in the first initial cities in places. And I have
a feeling that our governor would not say, would not
act like pritzkerg I think he would act like the
Republican governors in this country, like in Louisiana, and say,
come on and help us with the cartels, but also

(46:09):
help us with the illegal immigrants.

Speaker 1 (46:11):
All right, more of your calls and comments on the
troops headed to Chicago. Eight eight eight five seven eight
zero one zero, your calls and comments coming up on
the Roden Gregg Show. I mentioned this early if you
weren't listening in the last hour. The simple solution to
violent crime more comps. That's what Jason Riley wrote in
the Wall Street Journal today. Now I mentioned this before,

(46:32):
but the whack job of a mayor that they have
in Chicago. This guy what he at one time had
a six percent approval rating. I think it's gone up
to twenty percent now, still not very hach.

Speaker 2 (46:44):
You know why because if he complains about Trump, that's
what Yeah, every leftist Democrat worth their salt only gets
there by criticizing a Republican or Trump.

Speaker 1 (46:52):
Yes it, yeah, well Johnson talks about I mentioned this before,
affordable housing instead of better policing. Right, it stems from
all widely held view on the left that crime can
be blamed mostly on poverty. Okay, In this respect, it's
the mayor's views that are out of touch. Not only
are most poor people not criminals, yeah, okay, are not criminals,

(47:17):
but the most impoverished communities in the US aren't the
most violent. Interesting point that Jason Riley makes Further, violent
crime was significantly lower in earlier eras where poor Americans
were materially much worse than they are off than they
are today. So you can't blame it on poverty. You
can't blame it on formal affordable housing. You can't do that.

Speaker 2 (47:40):
When I hear them say those things that was the
twenty twenty called they want their Black Lives Matter riots
and defund the police, you know, chance back because they
tried this and every single one of these jurisdictions that
defunded their police and wanted to do community you know,
policing and whatever they wanted to call it. It's failed.

(48:01):
So so miserably, every including Salt Lake City, has completely
reversed course on all this nonsense. So for them to
say in twenty twenty five, you know, it's not really
about police officers, it's about community and affordable housing. They tried,
they that was their argument five years ago. They ran
with it to some success, successfully at least convincing people
that might be true, and it has crumbled around them.

(48:23):
There's no city left that thinks that that's that that's
going to, you know, restore public safety, not one.

Speaker 1 (48:29):
Well, isn't there a policy? Greg? Don't? And I think
they do that here in Utah. Most police departments allow
their officers to take their cars home, yes.

Speaker 3 (48:38):
Don't they?

Speaker 1 (48:38):
And if they leave them parked in a curt at
their home in a neighborhood, and I know several up
in the Caysville area that do that. It helps prevent crime,
of course. I mean, you see a police car in
someone's driveway, you aren't gonna maybe break into that house
or a neighbor's house. Yeah, yeah, you're going five others
just a little close. Did I do this here or

(49:01):
go to another area?

Speaker 2 (49:02):
It would ruin my Fourth of July fireworks show If
I had a five US living next door to me,
that would be horrible. Yeah, yeah, no, no, it would
have It would have a chilling effect on crime. Absolutely,
even a little skulduggery from some kids, it may have
a chilling effect.

Speaker 1 (49:17):
So I agree with Riley, and I don't understand Greg
why these democratic mayors do not want a little help,
even if it's only temporary, to cut down on crime.

Speaker 2 (49:28):
You know, don't get here the saying there's good reasons
and real reasons. The good reason, the good reason is
because they want to believe that that crime is a
is a symptom. It's not a it's not the it's
not the disease, it's not the problem. It's the symptom
of something else. And they want to they want to
they want to find some social engineering way to get
to the root cause of why crime occurs. That all

(49:50):
sounds you know, nice, and it sounds you know, warming
and warm and fuzzy. Here's the real that's the good reason,
the real reason you they want crime. They they want
they want people to live in fear. They need crowd control,
they do. I know it sounds callous, but I'm telling
you they've got no Pritzker has no problem with fifty

(50:10):
eight injury shot and seven y'or eight dead. It's eight dead.
He has no problem with that. In fact, he's actually
telling you that's a manufactured crisis. If you think there's
a problem with that, well, and so they have no problem.
If if fifty eight over the week, over the holiday
weekend have been shot in eight or dead, if that,
if that makes people look more closely to the mayor

(50:33):
and the and the and Pritzker for help, and it
makes them feel it makes them more important and the
public' size. Fine, but guess what those are the killing
fields that the real donors and people that donate to
their campaigns. They don't live there.

Speaker 1 (50:45):
They don't see it.

Speaker 2 (50:45):
They don't have any problem. That's someone else's problem. It's
not there. So they just don't. At the end of
the day, they don't care. They with you, fundamentally don't care.
That's the real answer.

Speaker 1 (50:55):
Well, he said in an interview yesterday prisker walking along
the walk there in Chicago, trying to lose weight, basically
said there's crime in every major city, Yes, in every.

Speaker 2 (51:06):
Crime just a reality.

Speaker 1 (51:07):
We just have to get reality of what's going on.
We had one of our talkback listeners, leave it this
this message.

Speaker 10 (51:14):
I think Trump is exposing all of these idiot mayors
and governors for the ridiculous actions that they have created
over time for the purpose of the mid term elections,
turning Democrats into Conservatives, independence and maybe Republicans.

Speaker 1 (51:37):
We'll see.

Speaker 2 (51:38):
Yeah, No, I'm with him. I think that it has
smoked them out. I mean now that that you know,
you've got Marilyn Manbra, the guy that can't speak English,
he's been human trafficking and going after kids and beating
his wife. You got them all in protecting him. You
got them saying that we all have crime. How dare
you try to stop it? We're not stopping crime. That's
not even a real issue. And now you've got the

(52:00):
Trende Aragua cartel, you know, associated with Venezuela. The government,
they're they're they're working together. You blow up the boat
and the liberals are incensed that you blew up the
cartel's boat. By the way, and what's the guy's name
that's their dictator, Moroto or I don't know, Yeah, whatever

(52:21):
his name is. He's trying to tell people that the
America is trying to inflict the regime change, and he's
trying to make this some national USA versus Venezuela. You know, Trump,
you're gonna have blood on your hands for trying to
invade our country. He's not trying to invade your country,
and he's not trying to regime change. He's trying to
stop your bosses, mister dictator, the cartel bosses who are
the dictator's boss from stopping running all this poison into

(52:44):
our country, and so he can try and make it
an international issue Venezuelan's dictator that this is America trying
to change, you know, invade his country. Trump has no interest.
I don't think he has any interest in regime change whatsoever.

Speaker 1 (52:58):
He wants to stop the heroin, the coke, yes, the
fentanyl from coming into this country. Let me tell you what, Greg,
the US blows up a few more boats. Well you
watch them say not anymore. I don't tell you in
this way.

Speaker 2 (53:11):
The Secretary of State Marco Rubio explains this perfectly. I
mean it's a if you want to when we come back, okay,
can we come back? This audio sound does articulate it
exactly as it is.

Speaker 1 (53:21):
They blow off a few more boats. Watch that drug
trade slow down a lot. All right, More coming up
on the Roddy greg Show in Utah's Talk Radio one
oh five nine k NRS. Coming up in the six
o'clock hour at the Department of Defense. They really believe
either you use it or lose it. You won't believe
how much money the Defense Department spent last year when

(53:43):
the clock was ticking.

Speaker 3 (53:44):
It looks like it looks like days.

Speaker 2 (53:46):
It looks like a Black Friday in the morning. You know,
whenever we used to line up outside the walmarts and
department stores, everyone running in and just grabbing everything off
the shelves.

Speaker 1 (53:56):
That's what they're doing. That's what they do with DoD Now,
we mentioned before the break that Marco Rubio weighed in
on this attack on a Venzuelan drug boat that was
coming towards the United States. The Libs are very very
critical of it. Here's what he had to say today
about it.

Speaker 11 (54:12):
The United States has long, for many, many years, established
intelligence that allow us to interdict and stop drug boats,
and we did that, and it doesn't work. Interdiction doesn't
work because these drug cartels. What they do is they
know they're going to lose, you know, two percent of
their cargo. They bake it into their economics. What will
stop them is when you blow them up and you

(54:33):
get rid of it. The president of the United States
is going to wage war. Are narco terrorist organizations. This
one was operating in international waters headed towards the United
States to flood our country with poison. And under President Trump,
those days are over.

Speaker 1 (54:48):
Days are over. He does a few more of these,
they're really over.

Speaker 2 (54:52):
I'm telling you, you know, interdiction doesn't work. Blowing them
up it works. And so there's been some description about
how sophisticated. So these cartels were paying Mexican cartel to
get in their tunnels. When Biden opened the border, they
could just walk it across. They didn't have to do
They used to have submarines and boats, and they used
to get and planes. They got really sophisticated, but the

(55:14):
United States got very sophisticated on how to detect them.
They give it to Mexico. Mexico, those cartel guys could
just run it across for a fee because nobody was
stopping them. Well, now that that border's closed, they got
to go back to some of these old old methods,
and that's where Donald Trump is being very aggressive to
not let those other methods boats even submarines. By the way,

(55:34):
uh get over to the United States.

Speaker 1 (55:36):
Well, you're very excited about this because it reminds you
of an episode of Miami Vice.

Speaker 2 (55:39):
It sure does. You're like, where would they take this
where it's called Miami Advice. Okay, I don't know if
you've been watching the show in the eighties, but it's
all coming back to Miami.

Speaker 1 (55:48):
You know, Donald Trump, Greg has this ability to look
at the basics of what the American people want. They
want safe streets. What is he doing doing everything he
can in the nation's capital because because he believes, and
I totally agree with him, Washington, d C. Should be
our shining city on the hill. That's where it all happens.
We're about to celebrate next July two hundred and fifty years.

(56:11):
He wants it spit and polish, he wants it shining,
and he's doing everything he can. But he knows in
other cities, the American people they don't want it a lot,
but they do want safe streets. They do want safe communities.
And he's listening to them, and he's responding to them.
And yeah, the attack on the boat, what's it doing,
bringing drugs into this country, more crime. He's going to

(56:32):
do everything he can to stop it. Yet you have
those on the left who's critical of this. I'll never
understandhy is he blowing up these boats? Why it seems
so heavy handed?

Speaker 2 (56:40):
Yeah, yeah, go look at the drugs flowing into this country,
destroying lives in people.

Speaker 1 (56:45):
Why Why is he putting more cops on the street
in the form of National Guardsmen. Why is he doing that?
Because he understands the basic feelings of the American people,
and one of them is safety.

Speaker 2 (56:56):
And it's a natural thing that we want to feel safe.
And to those that oppose them, he's shaming them into this.
Mayor Bowser she when she announced yesterday that she's all
in and that he can stay as long as he likes.
We will take this murder free zone. This is a
great this is a great city. We love it, will
take it. It kills her privately probably to say that,
but you can't argue the results. And we did the same.

(57:20):
Look in seventeen, we had the large multi jurisdictional effort
on Operation Real Grant, and we had the Department of
Public Safety and the troopers that were there for literally
almost two years we ousted. I mean, the La Times
came into the story. We ousted the cartels out of here.
It did change things. When you enforce the law, you
do and you protect those people that they were praying

(57:41):
upon that the cartels and those that want to use
them as mules, you're protecting them. But you law enforcement
and enforcing the law. That's how you get public safety.
Go figure.

Speaker 1 (57:52):
It is pretty amazing. Absolutely, and we'll see how long
it lasts. We'll see if other cities. Even Scarborough said
the other day on MSNBC, which would soon to be
ms NOW I guess said, you know, prisker, pick up
the darn phone, call the president. Absolutely, what can we
do solve this problem?

Speaker 3 (58:09):
They'll never do that?

Speaker 1 (58:10):
All right, more coming up, we'll talk about the spending
at the Department of Defense. Hang on, volks, here it comes.
We'll talk about it next. Whatever. Great to be with you.
We love being with you every weekday from four to
seven right here on Talk Radio one oh five nine
kN rs. Still to come this hour, we're gonna be

(58:31):
talking more about immigration and what the president is dealing with.
It's had a lot of success there, but he's got
some big challenges. As well. But right now, Greg, we
have really been impressed with Donald Trump's cabinet. You have
Christy Knowles, you have Marco Rubio, you have JD. Vans,
Jerry Scotson, you have the Secretary of Energy, ther Interior

(58:54):
Secretary Doug Bergram. I mean, they have done a great job.
But I think the biggest challenge is with Pete Haig
Seth and dealing with the Pentagon and the military industrial
complex that we have in this country today.

Speaker 2 (59:06):
It is He's He's actually had the most I think
he's had the most leaks and the most kind of
in the internal hostility you can see from just again
his the the Washington Post released his entire UH security
detail and the d and and how where the how
they do it and where they protect him in his spouse,

(59:27):
his ex spouse or kids way. I mean, I've never
seen that kind of specificity and information ever shared publicly
like that. It's over the top.

Speaker 1 (59:36):
Well, remember years ago, was that Chuck Schumer who warned
the president, you take on the intelligence community and they
will get after you. Yes, and they did, right, But
it was Eisenhower, but the end of his second term
warned America about the military industrial complex that we have
in this country. And boy, it's on display right now
with what hag Seth is facing with the Defense Department.

Speaker 2 (59:57):
It's huge, it is. And and they they are used
to being the largest budget item in the country or
of the of the budget, and they they've gotten their
way for generations now. And I say they, I'm not
talking just to people that work within that department, but
all the contractors. These are the people that used to
be in the military or at Department Defense that are

(01:00:17):
now getting paid at king's ransom on the contracting side
of the game. They've been running. They've been it's been
a it's been a printing press for them.

Speaker 1 (01:00:26):
They sure have, and it is as of today. John
Hart is the CEO of Open the Books. John is
joining us on our newsmaker line. He's taking a look
at the DoD and they use it or lose it
spending that takes place there. John, thanks for joining us tonight. John,
what have you done and why have you done it?

Speaker 7 (01:00:42):
Well, you know, defense spending is one of the is
one of the biggest and most consequential areas of our budget.
You know, we actually spend about a trillion dollars on
defense and Unfortunately, we spend more on interest payments on
the national.

Speaker 1 (01:00:54):
Debt that we do defense.

Speaker 7 (01:00:56):
So what that what that tells you is there's really
a twofold problem. Is that we've got a massive debt
and deficit problem. And at the same time, we've got
to do everything we can to deter foreign threats and
make sure that every dollar we spend on defense has
spent wisely and goes towards war fighting. And what Secretary
Hegse has described as the d d's fundamental the sality mission,

(01:01:19):
in other words, preparing us to be lethal and to
have a deterrent And what's happened over the past really,
I mean in many, many decades. You know, the President
Eisenhower talked about the defense industrial complex of self dealing
and waste, and there are massive problems within DoD that
have really gone unaddressed for decades. And we did just

(01:01:40):
a little bit poor where we described twenty of those examples.
But one that stands out as particularly egregious but also
solvable is this issue of use it or lose it spending.
And what that means is every September, which is the
end of the fiscal year that goes into the September.

(01:02:01):
There's a historic pattern of DoD just throwing money out
the door, and last year was one of the worst examples.
We spent millions of dollars on things like, you know,
six point one million on lobster tale, sixteen million on
Ribbi steak, twenty one million on office furniture, often for
buildings that are empty. And this just can't continue. And

(01:02:21):
the the you know, in a typical month, you know,
historically DOOD was you know, on the course, over the
course since two thousand and eight, you know, four hundred
and eighty billion a month, okay, but in September that
month monthly average is over a trillion. And this is
over many, many years. So the point is there's a
big spike every almost every year, predictably in September, when

(01:02:44):
DoD just throws billions and billions of billions of dollars
out the door. In twenty twenty four, DoD spent thirty
one billion, which is seven percent of its contract and
grant spending for the whole year, in the last five days. Okay,
that's that's more than that's more than what Israel spent

(01:03:04):
on an entire in the entire year of twenty twenty three.
So in other words, just in five days of twenty
twenty four, do you a d spent more than the
entire IDF You know?

Speaker 2 (01:03:16):
So that's crazy, Oh it is, and it's and it's
it's this mind. Everybody does it. They're use it to
lose it. It's not reserved just for Democrat administrations. So
I love that you're you're calling this out, But what
do you do if the Department of Defense wants to
expand or President Trump sees a greater role, so they
want to see a budget increase if they can't spend
the money that they have, and they so they say, look,

(01:03:37):
we're not going to spend it, We're not going to
it's less. How do you how do you incentivize in
a bureaucracy like the federal government efficiencies, highest and best
use of dollars, stretching dollars without seeing their budgets paired back,
especially if they're in a season where they're going to
ask for a budget increase.

Speaker 7 (01:03:53):
That's right, Well, it really it really does. You know,
it's a cliche, but the leadership in this really does
start at the top. And so Secretary Hexseths has you know,
he's called for back in I think it was March
or February called for fifty billion dollars in productions. That's
actually the right position because in order in order to
spend more and and have it go to deterrence, d

(01:04:14):
O D has to get its act together and get
rid of you know, things like over billing. Uh you know,
mission creep in so many different areas to use it
or lose it. Problem, not tracking invoices, you know, unnecessary
foreign travel, managing golf courses. So there's just there's a
very long list of things they do that are not efficient.
And and then then the president really has to back

(01:04:35):
him up and say this is this is where d
O D.

Speaker 12 (01:04:39):
He needs to have his back, you know.

Speaker 7 (01:04:40):
So the secretary needs really has to do all the
dirty work. It's not it's not a pleasant task.

Speaker 1 (01:04:46):
You know, it's easier to.

Speaker 7 (01:04:47):
Uh you know what what people in government like to
do is I describe it as mowing the flower bed
instead of pulling the weeds. Okay, so if you've got
a garden, you know sometimes you just get so frustrated
he just put a mower everything down. Because in order
to really make things grow and do things correctly, you've
got to get on your hands and knees and pull
the weeds, find out what doesn't what isn't working. And

(01:05:10):
that's that's why I think Secretary Hecsepp is willing to
do that. And so you know, I wrote this letter
to him, not because I'm upset. I think he wants
to do the right thing, and he needs to know
that the public is overwhelmingly supportive of ending things.

Speaker 1 (01:05:25):
Like usually or lose it.

Speaker 7 (01:05:26):
You know, I think if you did a poll of
your listeners right now, you know, ninety nine percent would
say yeah, this would They know this happens, it's stupid,
it shouldn't continue. And so now this is the month
to really be different. This is the month when we're
going to know whether this administration on defense spending is
going to be really different or just can you know,
continue business as usual and we can't afford business as usual?

Speaker 1 (01:05:48):
Yeah, John, We've already seen reports that you know, several
generals have been dismissed. He has tried to shake things
up in the Pentagon. I mean, does he still have
a long way to go to achieve that goal? And
will he be able to do it in the next
three years?

Speaker 7 (01:06:02):
No, I have I absolutely think. So I think, and
this is this is why it's important to focus on,
you know, these interim steps. He's not going to he's
not going to be able d O D is like
an ar a mode of ships. Okay, you can't. It's
like turning an aircraft carrier. You're not going to turn
all of it at the same time. And he's done
a great job of getting rid of things like DEI.

(01:06:23):
You know, they announced five and eighty million dollars worth
of contracts related to diversity, equity and inclusion and decarbonization initiatives.
You know, followed up in May with five point one
billion dollars in additional cuts. Those are all really important
steps and those should be applauded. But the this, the

(01:06:44):
size and scope of the task is so enormous that
you've got to you have to keep moving. It's very
easy to get to get worn out and stop this
perform process. And so I think, you know, you and
you have to take things one step at a time.
You know, he's done that, he's gone after DEI, he's
gone after you know, some ancillary things like consulting a
bunch of consulting contracts that weren't necessary. Dose has been

(01:07:07):
a part of that, but there's just a whole lot
more to do this and this use it or lose
it dynamic. It's not necessarily going to manifest itself in
a visible quote cut or savings at the end of
the year, but it will show up very, very clearly
in this lack of a big bump at the end
of the year. If we don't see the bump at

(01:07:27):
the end of the year, what that says is they're
managing the budget in a fundamentally different way and those
funds are going to go towards things like like lethality,
war fighting, deterrence. And I know that's what he wants
to do. It's just he's got to overcome the bureaucracy.
And so I think it's important for groups like ours
and you know, obviously shows like yours to shine a

(01:07:48):
spotlight on it. Not because we think they're not going
to they don't want to do the right thing, is
because they need the people in the Pentagon need to
know that the public is watching. They need to know
politic that we care.

Speaker 1 (01:08:00):
Absolutely. Yeah, John John Hart John, thank you. He's with
open books dot com if you want more information. But
here's this list again Greg. Uh, this is d O
D and the checkbook since last September. Six point one
million dollars on lobster tail I know, sixteen point six
million dollars on Ribbi steak.

Speaker 2 (01:08:22):
Well, I like a Ribbi. Maybe that maybe I can
justify that. No, just kidding, just kidding.

Speaker 1 (01:08:26):
Two hundred and eleven point seven million dollars on furniture.

Speaker 2 (01:08:31):
For empty buildings.

Speaker 1 (01:08:32):
Yeah, you know that no one's in. Yeah, and this
goes on and on.

Speaker 2 (01:08:37):
By the way, Babylon Bee, they have they have the
video of the boat being up. Uh headline hunter Biden
tells Daddy he's going to need a new boat. Ah
havel on Bee. True stranger than fiction. Sometimes might have
been his boat, you know, can't confirm, can't deny.

Speaker 1 (01:08:55):
Might struggling. Yeah, he's not selling any more.

Speaker 2 (01:08:58):
Paint that boat that might be in his boat.

Speaker 6 (01:09:00):
Darn it.

Speaker 2 (01:09:01):
He had a lot coming in, a lot hanging on that.
There's a lot depending on that boat. Get in the shore.

Speaker 11 (01:09:08):
Darn it.

Speaker 1 (01:09:09):
All right, more coming up the Rod and Greg show
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Speaker 2 (01:09:16):
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Speaker 1 (01:09:27):
And I'm Rod Football. NFL kicks off tomorrow night. Can't
wait my Cowboys taking on the Eagles.

Speaker 2 (01:09:35):
Folks. Let me tell you something. He is such a
deranged cowboy fan that he's talking to me about his
fantasy football team. He's actually looking objectively like, who should
be my best first round pick? Should be Dak Prescott,
their quarterback, the Cowboys quarterback. Like, no, that is not
he's not a top tier quarterback. Then we get to
a wide receiver. I don't know. No, you are just

(01:09:56):
you are just you have cowboy deranged syndromes with you.
Think I do you really do?

Speaker 1 (01:10:01):
But I tell you what. It's fading after what Johnes?

Speaker 2 (01:10:03):
You say that, but you're yeah, you will never give
it up?

Speaker 1 (01:10:06):
Yeah yeah, yeah, Well game to bar night. You're Steelers play.

Speaker 2 (01:10:11):
So on Sunday? Is it Sunday?

Speaker 1 (01:10:12):
Yeah? Yeah?

Speaker 2 (01:10:13):
They play the Jets.

Speaker 1 (01:10:14):
The Jets.

Speaker 2 (01:10:14):
So we got Aaron Rodgers who used to be the
quarterback for the Jets. He's with the Steelers. Now Fields
who was the Justin Fields who was at Pittsburgh's quarterback
last year. He's now the starting quarterback for the Jets.
So you've got different quarterbacks teams playing each other first
game this season. It'll be fun.

Speaker 1 (01:10:31):
I'm cautiously optimists by Utah Utah State all in action
this week BYU. Of course, he's got the Trump supporting
quarterback number forty seven. I wonder if he realizes that,
all right, I wonder if anyone has told him.

Speaker 2 (01:10:43):
Now, yeah, it's it's a fact in my mind. I'm
never gonna think anything else other than this quarterback absolutely
loves Donald J. Trump and he wore number forty seven.
Because what quarterback wears number forty seven unless you love
Donald J. Trump?

Speaker 1 (01:10:56):
Would it be that his father wore that number?

Speaker 3 (01:10:58):
You don't know that.

Speaker 2 (01:10:59):
Yeah, it doesn't matter. It means nothing to me. It
only means something that he loves Donald Trump.

Speaker 1 (01:11:04):
Yeah, yeah, I wonder if the all the libs down
there by you understand, there's so many.

Speaker 2 (01:11:09):
Of them now that they were when I was down Trump's.
You know, we didn't have any skinny jeans, you know,
wooses down there when I was down there. I swear
we didn't. They do now, Oh yeah, it's such a
liberal cesspool. I wouldn't want my kids to be in
provo right now?

Speaker 1 (01:11:25):
Yeah, well what do you make of this? There was
a the A Western Michigan player played for Western Michigan
Big game over the weekend against an arch rival, Michigan
State University. His name is Mustafi I'll gowari all right,
wish final. He had two tackles, but the name played
on his jersey is written in Arabic? Is that by you?

(01:11:48):
This is America? Right?

Speaker 2 (01:11:49):
It is America?

Speaker 1 (01:11:50):
I look? Yeah, apparently it stirred quite a controversy.

Speaker 2 (01:11:55):
Yeah, I you know, Look, I think that if you're
going to a c I would not go to a
country to if I was an expatriot, an next pat
I'm going to a new country. I'm going to live
there instead of America. I'm not looking around going Why
aren't you let Why aren't you like America? Why aren't
you celebrating my holidays? Why aren't you putting my shood
around here? Why does a why do these restaurants? I'm

(01:12:15):
in Italy? Why is it not American cuisine? Why am I?
Why do not? Why do you not celebrate everything I
do in my country? Because you're not in that country.
You're in someone else's country, So so what that country does? Yes,
when in Rome, it's kind of that saying, right I
I And that's not racist or that's not that's not xenophobic,
that's I. I just it's a two way street. I
would imagine if I'm going to emigrate to an immigrate

(01:12:38):
to a new country, that I there's it's kind of
a packaged deal.

Speaker 1 (01:12:42):
I don't assimilate.

Speaker 2 (01:12:43):
Yes, do you go into that You're going to go
in that country and you're gonna I mean, I don't
know how you would expect otherwise. I don't know how
you would go into a new country and think, why
are you doing things your way? Why aren't you doing
them my way?

Speaker 1 (01:12:55):
Yeah, you're in our country. Yes, you're in our country.

Speaker 2 (01:12:57):
I mean, it's just a two way street. Just that
seems that to me seems logical, you know, I don't know.

Speaker 1 (01:13:04):
Stirred up quite a bit in controversy, but apparently the
university gave them per mission. He went to the university
earlier this year and said, could I where my name
played on the back of my jersey in Arabic? And
some people said, you know you're in America, right.

Speaker 10 (01:13:17):
I know.

Speaker 2 (01:13:18):
I think it's distracting. At least at the minimum, it
becomes distract That's why you see what teams is it
at Alabama that doesn't put the names on the back
of the jerseys? Yeah, yeah, or Notre Dame. Notre Dame doesn't.
Alabama puts the name on the back of the jersey.
Notre Dame doesn't put the news.

Speaker 1 (01:13:33):
Does Alabama do it?

Speaker 2 (01:13:34):
I think they do it now, huh I do? Maybe
maybe I'm wrong, but I know that Notre Dame doesn't.

Speaker 1 (01:13:39):
Yeah, I know Notre Dame been there.

Speaker 2 (01:13:40):
Yeah, I love it. I love that they don't. I
think that it's one team. Some individual sport.

Speaker 1 (01:13:46):
Good approach, good approach. I don't think Alabama does it either.

Speaker 2 (01:13:52):
I have to look, but I think they might have changed.
But I know that Notre Dame still holds.

Speaker 1 (01:13:57):
You know what I find interesting about Alabama and I
think Texas may be this way a few other schools. Yeah,
they don't get into all these jersey and uniform changes.
I know.

Speaker 12 (01:14:07):
I like.

Speaker 1 (01:14:07):
I like keeping Penn State. Penn State's another way. Penn
State I don't think has name plates on the back
of their jerseys. No, they don't, they don't. No, I
know that's true too. Yeah, all right, mare coming up
the Rod and Greg Show and Utah's Talk Radio one
oh five nine kN Ars.

Speaker 2 (01:14:22):
Swing Man Wednesday.

Speaker 1 (01:14:23):
Yes it is.

Speaker 2 (01:14:24):
And what you're doing this? You know you never do
this every once in a while where you just throw
just a wrench among your It's right in my head,
just you just do this in a way. I'm we
have a cadence here, you and me, and all of
a sudden you just like skip a beat. I don't
even know what you're doing.

Speaker 1 (01:14:37):
Just look at me. I'm checking your cognizant skills.

Speaker 2 (01:14:40):
Man, I got I am no Joe Biden, I just
boom caught it. Hey, how are you? Folks? I'm right here,
just caught the ball. Stare I look up at your
ears looking at me. I was looking at things, trying
to get ready for the final. Say, I'm Rod Arquet.
You didn't say, and that's your cue. That's usually my cue.

Speaker 1 (01:14:59):
Okay, you taught me that I didn't know we had cues. Well,
I thought this was a free flowing show done by
two radio professionals. Well there's one professional.

Speaker 2 (01:15:10):
I'm a nube to the whole thing.

Speaker 1 (01:15:12):
But you've been doing it for a year, will you
not become a nube.

Speaker 2 (01:15:16):
Well, you know you, like I said, you, you you
create some standards I follow, and then all of a sudden,
you just do it different and you don't even give
I get no memo, I get nothing. You just look
at me. Sorry, folks, are we on the air?

Speaker 6 (01:15:29):
We haven't.

Speaker 2 (01:15:29):
This is a conversation that we should probably have just
the two of us, but we've allowed our listeners.

Speaker 1 (01:15:33):
To well, we want our listeners to be part of
the show, good or bad. This may be considered one
of the bad moments.

Speaker 2 (01:15:40):
Yeah, well, I'm protesting my treatment. Yeah, you know, I
got time blindness. It's a disability. You need, you need
to I need accommodations. I'm embracing the victim class mentality
right now.

Speaker 1 (01:15:51):
Huh, you're good at it. Thanks. Yeah, all right, let's
talk more about deportations and what Donald Trump is trying
to do. Is there a way to measure his success?
Is there a way to measure I find many measures
of his success. But yes, but when it comes to deportation,
just the number of people out, Just the people.

Speaker 2 (01:16:10):
How many people illegally crossed, how many encounters, how many
of you turned back at the border, how many have
got across without being caught. Those are real stats. Those
exist in real time, and presidents have those numbers, and
sometimes they bake them. They change a bit, sure they do.
Has the Biden border crisis been solved well? Has its

(01:16:31):
consequences over the last few years? Hasn't beginning. I don't
think it's even been touched yet. Bite Trump's best efforts,
but we're not seeing it magnified and becoming worse. I
think they've secured the border. I would agree pretty well.

Speaker 1 (01:16:45):
Yeah, I would agree well. Joining us on our Newsmaker
line to talk more about that is our good friend.
Con Carroll, commentary editor at the Washington Examiner. Con You've
taken a look at ways to measure Trump's deportation success.
In your opinion, what will success look like for the
president and the US?

Speaker 12 (01:17:02):
Yeah, I mean I think his success has already been
a name. I know he set a goal of one
million actual deportations, which to me would mean putting actual
butts on the plane and send them back to great country.
Doesn't have to be the country origin, just any country.
But deportations cost out money. Those flights cost money. It
cost time for agents to put people on those planes,

(01:17:23):
and for me, as long as illegal immigrants are leaving
the country, and especially if they're doing it on their
own expense, that's a win. And so we have pliminary
data that shows that Trump has already surpassed over a
million illegal immigrants leaving, and I think that's a win.

Speaker 1 (01:17:43):
You know.

Speaker 2 (01:17:43):
Con I've seen statistics that we haven't seen the influx
of immigrants this high during the Biden administration since eighteen ninety,
which is concerning. It means you can't really remove or
deport as many as that arrived. But yesterday there was
a ruling that said that the federal judge said that
the president could not use the Alien Enemies Act Enemy
Alien Act to deport. That certainly slows down the pace.

(01:18:05):
Where where do you see that going? And how successful
do you think the president will be as he's I've
heard about the new Louisiana lockup. You know, they got
more facilities coming, but the judges they're kind of getting
on the way as well. What do you see? Sure?

Speaker 12 (01:18:19):
Sure, well, I mean I hate to disagree with you,
but I think I will there. You know, I don't
think the Alien Enemies Act is the main way or
even you know, bigger than one percent of the way
Trump is deporting anyone. Okay, you know you don't need
to use that law in order to deport visa legal emorates.
A lot of them are They have KEPS I'm sorry,

(01:18:40):
temporary protective status expiring. They already have deportation orders. They
may get a d Y, they may get rest for
shop with these all kinds of reasons that you can
pick them up and deport them. You don't need to
declare a phantom invasion from Venezuela in order to deport Venezuelans.
They they can just you know, be deported because they

(01:19:02):
don't have any legal status to be here. Now, all
that said, there are some other rulings that have slowed
down to Trump administrations I think are wrong and will
eventually be overturned. They were trying to repatriate a number
of miners to Guatemala and a judge stopped that, arguing
that they should stay here when even when Toys and

(01:19:22):
Trump is supporting them is because they have no parents
here to send them to to release them to, and
that they have Guatemal they release them to. Decisions like
that do slow it down. But I think what you
have is that when you have the border being shut down.
That's unequivalent to true. No one's denying that. And then

(01:19:44):
you have also these deportations going on, a lot of
legal I'm gonna have to agree in the message that look,
it no longer pays to be here in this country.
I should go home now. And it's those self deportations
that I think are where the lion's share of deportations
is going to come from. And those are just as good,
if not better than actual ICE agds putting people on
a plane and send them home.

Speaker 1 (01:20:05):
Con we like to point our fingers at Joe Biden
and what happened during his years in the White House,
but that's really started before Biden. Actually, you write about
what Barack Obama and his Homeland Security secretary did back
in twenty fourteen, Jay Johnson, what exactly did they do
to tie ICE's hands?

Speaker 3 (01:20:22):
Right?

Speaker 12 (01:20:23):
So you have what a lot of people call this
deportation surge under Obama, but really he cooked the books
and what he did was he called them you and
I think of his deportations, which is an ICE agrest
someone you know, Saint Ogden, puts them on a plane
back to Guatemala. They counted those of deportation, because they
also counted anytime someone in arrested at the border and

(01:20:44):
returned back to Mexico. They're kind of doses deportations too,
when really that's just forcing the border. But what they
did do is Obama sent to memo saying that they
would no longer de poor people unless they were some type.

Speaker 1 (01:20:56):
Of extra.

Speaker 12 (01:20:58):
Danger to the country, whether it's inter national security or
some type of fellon created. So they exactly basically said, like, look,
if illegal immigrant is arrested for shop lifting, or for
legal immigrant is lested for driving under the influence, that's
no longer a basis for deportation under this Obama administration memo.

(01:21:19):
And you can see in the numbers just they fell
off a cliff. They went from over one hundred and
thirty thousand a year, you know, to less than fifty thousands.
And so it was because of these voluntary efforts by
the Oboma administration to decrease internal deportations that really destroyed
our interior enforcement of our immigration laws.

Speaker 2 (01:21:40):
You know, I've asked this question of a few guests
when we talked about this issue and what Trump's been
able to do on immigration and really closing the border
are some of these are the reforms and the and
the and the wall, all that's being done right now.
Will this survive over multiple administrations without regard to who
gets elect what party gets elected, or is this just
purely a Trump moment for us in this country?

Speaker 12 (01:22:04):
I think with unfortunately, with illegal immigration enforcement, I do
think this is going to be a live issue for administration.
I think, you know, Biden tore down parks the wall,
and you're never going to build the whole wall. And
then also look at what Biden did with his HIVN
program and his appointments at the border. You know, he
would set up appointment for illegal immigrants to check in

(01:22:28):
with border patrol people at the border who had then
just released them into the country. And with the flights,
he would allow people from Cuba, Haiti, Venezuela, and Nicaragua
to register overseas and get you know, some type of
sponsor in the nice and then fly into the United States.
And these are all things that Biden just did by
executive fiat. So unfortunately, I do think immigration is one

(01:22:51):
of those issues where the next administration, if it's a Democrat,
can just open the floodgates again and let end millions
of people. But that said, I think building the detention facilities,
hiring the ice agents, I think those people are going
to be harder to buyer. It's going to be hirer
to tear down those intense facilities. So that if you

(01:23:11):
have a Republican president after Trump, I think it will
be easier to flip the switch on the deportation machine
and actually have enforcement again. But you know, unfortunately, you know,
if you have a Democratic president in power, enforcement isn't
going to come automatically, and you need the political will
to actually enforce immigration law. And even if you have

(01:23:32):
all the infrastructure and create in place that the political
will to enforce them ration law isn't there. It's not
going to be enforced.

Speaker 1 (01:23:39):
Con Carroll, commentary editor at the Washington Examiner. One side
note to that, Greg, I saw this article today as well.
The young Latino swing to Donald Trump is real, right,
More and more evidence showing that young Latinos are switching
to the Republican Party and the biggest impact is going
to be in California.

Speaker 2 (01:24:00):
It's amazing, you know, and it serves as Democrats, right,
they did this whole scam to bring these people into
try and create a multi generational voting block that would
be first for apportionment for congressional districts. But ultimately they
were going to give them the right to vote. You
can see by the way they push back on them
being deported now, and I think Latinos that are here
in America they resent it. At the end of the days,

(01:24:21):
it's contributed to crime and all kinds of other consequences.
And I don't think it's worked the way the Democrats.

Speaker 1 (01:24:27):
Hope, maybe even taking some of their jobs right exactly
what's going on here, and so.

Speaker 2 (01:24:33):
This this generation is e these young people. And then
when you say that the demographic of young Hispanic voters
are looking at to be strong right of center for
trump Man, I think that's it. That's just desserts for
these leftists and what they've done to this country.

Speaker 1 (01:24:47):
Well, and studies are also showing that young men, doesn't
matter if they're Latino or white Americans, you name it,
are turning more conservative.

Speaker 2 (01:24:58):
Yeah.

Speaker 1 (01:24:59):
Well, they are signing up for the Conservative Republican Party
and they're leaving the Democratic Party because it's doing nothing
for them. And young Democratic women don't want to have
anything to do with these guys.

Speaker 2 (01:25:10):
And the immortal words of Tucker Carlson. The Democrat Party
is a party of angry women and weak men. And
that is truly the case. And if you're a young
guy and you're coming up and you look at all
these guys that are on the left, they're not they're
weak men. You don't want to be like them anyway.
I just think I do think there's a movement that's

(01:25:30):
happening right now, so angry women, weak men, weak men.
And I think it's old hippies. Yeah, your crowd. I
swear the boomers weren't this crazy until just recently. I
swear you just all of the boomers just went nuts.

Speaker 1 (01:25:44):
The old hippies, Yeah, yeah, they're the ones out there
carrying the signs and everything. And you know what, could
you know why it hearkens them back to the days
when they were protesting Voladama. Well, here's the problem, we energize.

Speaker 2 (01:25:54):
When the NGOs were making their protest signs, you could
give it to an old Hippia boomer hippie and it
was fine. Now, because the NGOs have been defunded, they're
making their own signs, like the one in Virginia where
she's like, if you don't let the guy in the
girl's locker room. We're not gonna let you drink out
of our fire, our fountain, water fountain.

Speaker 1 (01:26:10):
Yeah.

Speaker 2 (01:26:10):
Yeah, that's really racist, by the way, But she didn't know,
she didn't.

Speaker 1 (01:26:13):
She shouldn't figure that one out, all right, Final thoughts
coming up on this wingman Wednesday in Utah's Talk Radio
one O five nine can arrests.

Speaker 2 (01:26:22):
I'm citizen Greg Hughes and I'm Rod Arquette.

Speaker 1 (01:26:26):
Steve Moore his Unleashed Prosperity email he sent out today,
does it every day? You should get it? I love this,
he said, Uh. Sometimes The New York Times nails it. Gee,
ad mission, Right. This was the headline from October twenty
sixth of last year. Okay, a week before the election. Okay,

(01:26:47):
the headline, If Donald Trump wins, he is ready to
radically reshape American government from the moment he regains the
White House.

Speaker 2 (01:26:57):
Yeah. Good. First, either look back and see that they
called that shot. Yes, you're right now. They don't like
how that's going about, but they are right.

Speaker 1 (01:27:04):
Yeah, they did it. They nailed it.

Speaker 2 (01:27:06):
He's moving at a speed that I just don't I
don't think any of us thought it was possible. Well,
we've never seen Washington move fast ever, so this is
I think he has done phenomenally.

Speaker 1 (01:27:16):
Have you thought about your holiday shopping? Not at all? No, Well,
I'm kind of starting dig man.

Speaker 2 (01:27:23):
It's just the beginning of September. Holidays to go there.

Speaker 1 (01:27:27):
I'm doing this because a report out today says holiday
shoppers plan for spending pullback this year. They don't cut
back a little, man.

Speaker 2 (01:27:36):
I don't even know. I'm not even I'm not even
doing that math right now. It's September. We have football
seasons starting this weekend, NFL starting, and you know college
started last weekend. Just don't even talk about holidays yet.

Speaker 1 (01:27:48):
Okay, apologize, man, didn't know you were so sensitive.

Speaker 2 (01:27:52):
Ye to start shopping. You're gonna get shopping for Christmas
and the beginning of September. And then you want to
talk about Taylor Swift. That's the two things speaking of.

Speaker 1 (01:27:59):
Weak man, this story, this blew me away when I
saw this story over the weekend, and because I don't
think many people picked up on this story. Remember the
movie Walking Tall? Yes, okay, yeah, yeah, there was the
original one. Then of course the Rock did it. I'm

(01:28:19):
the original one. Bronson wasn't in.

Speaker 2 (01:28:22):
That Charles Charles, who was it?

Speaker 1 (01:28:27):
It was not Charles Bronson, for crying out loud. But
the movie, of course, was about a sheriff who decided
to go after the mob who killed his wife. Right, yes,
that was the whole base of the movie. Very popular
movie back then, right will come to find out over
the weekend, beliefs revealed that it was the sheriff who
killed his wife, not the mafia.

Speaker 2 (01:28:48):
What yeah, what are you talking about? Did this really happen? Yeah,
a story, that's true.

Speaker 1 (01:28:55):
Story. Well, the movie was patterned after the sheriff who
went after the gang. Yeah who he he killed his wife.
Turns out it was the sheriff who killed his wife.

Speaker 2 (01:29:05):
Well, that ruins the whole storyline.

Speaker 1 (01:29:07):
Now the does who don't watch that movie now not
mean now you'll you'll like cause you like those kind
of Joe Don Baker was Joe Don Baker carried that
big stick. Uford Pusser was the sheriff. Yeah, nim names.

Speaker 2 (01:29:23):
Murderer.

Speaker 1 (01:29:23):
Yeah apparently so all right for us tonight had up
Childer's back. My God, bless you and your family, and
that's great country of ours. We're back tomorrow at four

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