The Rod and Greg Show: Sea Levels not Rising; Coordination of Anti-ICE Riots; Let Chicago destroy itself

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Speaker 1 (00:00):
And the Bachelor is you guys are getting along okay
without Queen Bee.

Speaker 2 (00:03):
Queen Bee's not here, man, I'll tell you what, I'll
come clean. It's it's a little rougher than I thought
it was going to be. I mean, I can only
order so much pizza and I can only Yes, I'm
losing my I've spent a king's ransom on on ordered
in food because I anyway, it's just been I'm ready
for Queen Bee to come home. It's like I think
my son's looking at me going out in the world

(00:25):
like you're in charge. It's getting rougher, screwed, it is
getting bad.

Speaker 1 (00:30):
Well, I'm glad things are going to great weekend. Spend
some time up to bear Lake. I've never been up
to bear Lake. I've been there, I've never stopped and
spent some time.

Speaker 2 (00:40):
Really.

Speaker 1 (00:40):
Yeah, some friends of ours have a beautiful home there,
and we went up into the canyon on a side
by side and some four boy fours and it was
just fun, beautiful and the leaves just starting to change.
The leaves are just starting to.

Speaker 3 (00:53):
Take you know.

Speaker 2 (00:53):
The bear Lakes Lake is so warm, it's like it's
like it's like you're in a hot spring.

Speaker 1 (00:58):
No, I'm not this time.

Speaker 3 (01:00):
Well, it's notorious for really cold.

Speaker 1 (01:03):
But that lake is so blue and there it is
so beautiful up there. We have a little rain on Saturday,
but yesterday absolutely gorgeous.

Speaker 2 (01:11):
I've been there in the summer and that water is
so cold. My lungs don't want to breathe. I jump
in that water, I can't even breathe, it's so cold.

Speaker 4 (01:18):
Ye.

Speaker 1 (01:18):
Well, we've got a lot to get to today. As always,
light goes on on the weekend. We're going to talk
about here in a minute. We'll talk about that whole
baseball game thing, because there's some a rather interesting explanation
from the dad who has caught up in all of
this is a great, great explanation as to what he
was trying to teach his son. We'll also talk about
what happened in Charlotte, and I tell you what, Greg

(01:39):
that it just angers me every time you see that video.
I haven't seen the whole thing. I don't care, but
I will see just the moment before this. Yes, that's
what I've seen before he stabbed the woman. We'll get
into that, get reaction to that. We'll also talk about
Ira Melman there's a new investigation. Remember the riots in
La over the the National Guard being there and protecting

(02:02):
things well, and ice being there. Well, apparently it was
not as organic as most people would think. No, turned
out to be very coordinated effort. And we'll get into
that as well. And as always, we invite you to
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Speaker 3 (02:36):
Yeah? Please? Do We love it? We love the feedback.
It's always good.

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The collective wisdom of the show with its audience is
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Speaker 3 (02:45):
I think so. I really enjoy it.

Speaker 1 (02:47):
All right, Shall we talk about the most hated woman
in the country today.

Speaker 3 (02:50):
Skunk ladies what I've been calling man?

Speaker 5 (02:52):
That woman.

Speaker 3 (02:52):
She is alone.

Speaker 2 (02:53):
This woman is clear out of her mind. I watch
this and it boils my blood, it really does. It
is it was this weekend. I'm just disappointed.

Speaker 3 (03:03):
We don't know. I know she's an HR lady in
some higher edge.

Speaker 1 (03:06):
You think she's she's.

Speaker 3 (03:08):
Nuts though she as crazy as crazy gets.

Speaker 1 (03:11):
I bet she's a Democrat on gotta be.

Speaker 2 (03:14):
Right, absolutely to take it, to take that ball from
that child to be mine, mine, mine, and then take
it from that kid. I mean, you've got to be
so it just separated from reality. I just so that
would make her a democrat. Yeah, see how that works? Well,
how do you do this to a kid? You know,
and you've been to major league baseball games. I've been

(03:34):
to major League baseball games. One of my dreams would
be to catch a home run or catch a foul ball. Yes,
wasn't It's not why people take their gloves to the
game to begin with. Many many people do, thinking may
come my way, and if it does, I want to
grab a ball. Well, if you aren't aware of what happened,
there was a home run hit and in Florida at

(03:54):
the Marlins game between the Phillies, hit by a Philly
fan or a Philly player, Utter Bader I think is
his name, right, And well, let's listen to the play
by play because they're going to describe what happened here,
and then we'll dig into this a little bit more.

Speaker 1 (04:08):
And ball hit the fan.

Speaker 6 (04:12):
Oh, the Phillies fan came in and she's he stole
it from another Phillies fan.

Speaker 1 (04:18):
Oh, she can't believe it.

Speaker 6 (04:20):
Whoa, Oh yeah, yep, we have a little infighting here.
You know, he did give it to what I would
assume he is his son, maybe, Okay, did give it
to the young that this lady's got to get it
under control. Look at the girl in the background in

(04:41):
the left hand side of the screen.

Speaker 1 (04:42):
She's laughing. All right, Ugh, what is going on? That
is weird behavior. Let's get somebody from the Marlins to
go out there with another ball.

Speaker 4 (04:56):
Good.

Speaker 1 (04:56):
Well, fortunately, fortunately they they not only did the Marlins
take the Phillies actually took care of the young man. Yes,
the guy who hit the home run called him down
after the game and give him his bat, isn't it.
They hit the home run with, which is great, But
this woman, Greg, I mean, come on.

Speaker 2 (05:12):
So, folks, I spent my life going to Pittsburgh Pire
games as a kid. Okay, in nineteen seventy nine, I'm
nine years old. I probably went to twenty home games
that year, just and it was the year they went
to the World Series, and my grandmother used to always
take me. I can tell you, and anyone's been to
a BS game or anything, you might you brent me
to know this yourselves, but yeah, you take your mit.
You go to these games. And when the ball goes

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foul or it goes to it becomes a home run
home run. If a fan doesn't catch it on the fly.
It's like a plinko. This thing's just bouncing everywhere and
it's hitting. It's hitting this it's going over there, and
it is a free for all. There is no rules.
It is whoever's hand gets on that ball, that's your ball.
There is no steal. Nobody has a right to that
ball because and I can't tell more people think they

(05:56):
can catch it on the fly and it hits their
hand without bear hard to do. And and more people
get balls from the bare hand of another fan, then
they'll ever catch on their own. And so that ball's somewhere,
and that this dad did exactly what a million ten
million dads before him have done, and that is he's
coming where the balls flying, and that that ball's land

(06:18):
standing and he picks it up, takes it back to
his son puts it in his baseball glove.

Speaker 3 (06:23):
So he came with a glove to do just that.

Speaker 2 (06:25):
But he puts it in his son's baseball glove, and
then Cuckoo for Coco Pops comes up.

Speaker 3 (06:30):
She is just unhinged.

Speaker 1 (06:33):
She is just attacking the dad yelling and grabs it.
She touches and dad and dad, you know, and Dad, finally,
I'm done with this, took the ball from his son
and gave it to her. She walks back to her
seat and she is getting booed.

Speaker 2 (06:47):
She people are hacking her and they it's so distasteful
what everyone saw.

Speaker 3 (06:50):
You heard the announcer bit.

Speaker 2 (06:52):
She starts to get in the face of fans that
are telling given her a hard time.

Speaker 3 (06:56):
She is deranged.

Speaker 2 (06:56):
And I'll tell you I've heard people say that father
shouldn't have given the ball, and I will admit I
would not have shown the restraint that that that father did,
and he did the right thing. I don't know that
I would have had this been the state of mind
to do that, but he did do the right thing.
He de escalated that situation. And you know, I don't
know that I could have handled it that well, but
I think he was powerful. It was a powerful lesson

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for me to watch that father with his son there
trying to get in the face of lunacy. You don't
know what's going to happen if you just need to
get that out of here, and he gave it to
her and shoot her.

Speaker 7 (07:27):
Yeah.

Speaker 1 (07:27):
I saw an interview with him and his and his
son sitting right beside him today on Fox News, and
they asked him, why did you do this? He said,
I was trained to teach my son how to de
escalate a tense situation. And this woman was tense. I
mean she was in his face, she was yelling at him.
She reminded to us of Elizabeth Warren what that would
be like. But he finally just threw his hands up

(07:52):
that I don't care. Here's the ball. You know, we're
I'm going to teach my son how to handle situations
like this, great father, because I'm with you, Greg. You know,
if my son or one of my sons was there
with me now he had a chance to have a
major league baseball in his hand and have that nut
job of a woman, ye take it out of his hand.
I don't know if I wouldn't.

Speaker 2 (08:13):
She sounded like mine, it's mine, it's mine. Someone caught
the audio of it, and she sounds as crazy as
she is. She just keeps saying that is mine, as
if there's some like I don't know how many games
she's been to, but I don't even know how she
could claim ownership of that ball. It hit her hand,
she didn't catch it. It fell into the row in
front of her. He ran up and he got it
and gave it to his kid. And you brought this

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up before the show. There are so many times where
whoever catches that ball, if there's a kid, if there's
a child near them, nine times out of ten, they'll
hand that to a kid, yeah, bron or someone else's kid.

Speaker 1 (08:44):
They are displays like that a major league ballparks, at
least on a weekly basis. If some guy catches a
ball notices there's a young kid right beside him, or
if you turn around and give it to the kid,
this lady stole it from the kid.

Speaker 2 (08:55):
In fact, there was a there was a highlight of
a Yankees game where the other team it was a
judge and judge home run. He was with the other
he was he was cheering the other team when he
caught it. He saw the little the boy that was
a Yankees fan with the judge, Jersey gave it to him.
The kid starts to cry. He just starts to ball
and hugs him. That is a that is a beautiful moment,
contrasted with in what we saw from this lake.

Speaker 1 (09:16):
I think at one time they had identified the woman,
but it was the wrong.

Speaker 3 (09:23):
I'm a Red Sox fan but was not there.

Speaker 1 (09:25):
But at some way, sooner or later, they're going to
identify this woman. And like I said, some people are
calling you the most hated woman in the country right
down appropriately so maybe so. All right, more coming up
on the Rod and Greg Show on a very busy
Monday afternoon right here on Utah's Talk Radio one oh
five nine kayn R. All of a sudden, the Energy
Department and starting to take a look at climate change.

(09:45):
One study out takes a look at the impact that
carbon is having on climate. Another study out takes a
look at sea levels and the study shows that they
are not surging despite years of climate activists and corporate
media freaking out about it. Well, joining a It's on
our newsmaker line to talk more about this is Sterling Burnett.
He is the director of the Center on Climate and

(10:05):
Environmental Policy at the Heartland Institute Sterling, How are you
and welcome to the Rod and Greg Show.

Speaker 8 (10:11):
Doing well, Thanks for having me on, Sterling.

Speaker 1 (10:14):
Let's talk about the study about sea levels not surging.
What have you found out and how surprising is that
to a lot of people?

Speaker 8 (10:22):
Well, you know, I would like to see a lot
more coverage of it. I'm glad you guys are picking
it up. The truth is it shouldn't be surprising at all.
Most of the claims about sea levels are grounded in
climate model projections of what sea levels should be. But
climate models are seriously flawed. They don't get temperatures right,
which is what they're actually formulated to get. If they

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don't get tempatures right, the other projections don't work. Then
they say, oh, well, we've got satellite data. Satellites don't
measure within millimeters of sea level rise. And so what
the people who did this study did it's the first
time ever. I don't know how it could be the
first time ever. But they looked at tide gauges around
the world. They looked at more than two hundred tide

(11:05):
gauges that had long term records They didn't look at
new tide gauges, moved at long term records, and they
found that ninety five percent of them showed no acceleration
of sea level riots about I think they said it
was about one point five millimeters a year, which is
less than half what the piece of the Inner Governmental

(11:26):
Panel on Climate Change and many climate alarmists who relow
on models and satellite data say it's happening.

Speaker 2 (11:35):
You know, I was watching a clip. It was totally
unrelated to environment whatsoever. It was a TV star at
the time of nineteen eighty nine, and he got away
from the you know, his TV show and everything, and
he said, I'm really concerned about the climate. I'm really
these rising tides. We got holes in the ozone, and

(11:57):
we have polar caps that are melting, and we don't
have much time left. And I'm watching this this was
just last night, forty one years ago, and there's no
discernible difference right now. How did they get away with
telling us that doomsdays right around the corner. And yet
every prediction ever made that I can tell, never really
arrives one.

Speaker 8 (12:15):
Hundred years of prediction one hundred years or not, one
of them ever being true. I can't, you know. I
wish I could get in the heads of news producers
and television show producers and understand why these people keep
getting hearing. A guy named Paul Erlik, writing about climate
doom since the late sixties, has made dozens, if not

(12:38):
multiple dozens of predictions, never been right once, and yet
he's still invited on his an environmental experts and they're
supposed to take his pronouncement seriously. Never been right once,
has written multiple books, all of them wrong, but he
still gets running. So I can't explain why these people
still get a hearing. You know, even in the fairy
tale people stopped listening to Chicken Little Finally good analogy.

(13:01):
I agree in fairy tales, they get it. In real life.
You know, one hundred and fifty years ago, people would
stand on street corners and say it with placards saying repent,
the end is near, and same people would cross the
street to avoid them. Now these same people are invited
into the halls of Congress to testify and lecturers. They

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invite sixteen year old Asperger syndrome children who are skipping
school to tell us, how dare you killing the earth?
So it's it's we live in a crazy world where
we think teenagers who have the least experience in anything
should be telling us how to live our lives.

Speaker 1 (13:43):
Yeah, yeah, yeah, Sterling. I have to tell you, those
of us here in the Mountain West are a little
disappointed that the sea levels aren't rising because we thought
sooner or later we'd have beachfront property.

Speaker 3 (13:52):
And we were good with that.

Speaker 1 (13:54):
Let California, we were a little disappointed, and that Sterling.

Speaker 7 (13:58):
To be honest, I don't know in the Mountain West
whether you'll ever get the sea its salt lake.

Speaker 8 (14:05):
I'm highly doubtful. Yeah, yeah, you know, if you've got,
if you've got, if you're like on the border in
Arizona and Nevada, when the earthquakes come, maybe the ocean
world your property will yeah.

Speaker 1 (14:17):
Sterling, Sterling, I understand that this report now didn't account
for all sea levels in some areas they are rising.
Is that true?

Speaker 8 (14:25):
Look, there's no question they didn't say that seeds weren't rising.
They said seas were rising. But seas have risen more
than four hundred feet over the last twelve thousand years
since the last ice age. Seas always rise between ice
ages until the next ice age comes. What they said
was seas aren't right. What we constantly hear is, oh,

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sea rise has accelerated, Steve rise has gotten worse. Starts
my dog there the perils of live radio.

Speaker 3 (14:55):
Now we see that he sees a tide count last night.
Warn yet.

Speaker 8 (15:02):
Yeah, but what they said is they haven't accelerated contrary
to what was claimed. Right, they rose about seven inches
in the nineteenth century, they rose about seven inches in
the twentieth century, and they're on pace to raise about
seven inches in this century. So it hasn't gotten worse

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despite all the additional greenhouse gases going into the atmosphere.
And that's what they say is, oh, all the greenhouse
gases are causing more melting, which is causing increased cellib arrives.
And that's just not happening. That's a the data show
data show.

Speaker 1 (15:39):
Sterling. Great chatting with you. We hope your dog's just
fine and we'll talk again. Thank you, Sterling. Take care
all are you Sterling Burnett. He's from the Heartland Institute
talking about a study taking a look at sea levels.
There's another study out there the Energy Department commission. This
right totally separate from everything else. Found five scientists no

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connections whatsoever to any political party to look at carbon,
right and carbon and they basically says, you know, the
Energy Department's recent report, drawing predictable criticism, of course, but
one of the lead findings elevated carbon dioxide levels, enhanced
plant growth, contributing to global greening and increased agricultural productivity.

(16:21):
There you go, So, I guess it's not too bad. Oh,
you don't have to ban the cows. Let the coachance
of cows.

Speaker 2 (16:27):
We had to get rid of all the cows, remember
how that was working, and the farms for the reasons
that were somehow related to our climate.

Speaker 3 (16:33):
Yeah, that's that's all fake news.

Speaker 1 (16:35):
Oh. By the way, when we were in bear Lake,
we did see a wild animal. What it was a cow? Yeah,
just a feral cow. Feral cow. I'm just wandering out there.
Didn't know what it was doing. All right, We've got
a lot more to come on this Monday afternoon edition
of the Rod and Greg Show on Utah's Talk Radio
one oh five nine k n R S. All right,
a story. You know, we talk a lot about education,

(16:57):
the changes that are taking place in education only here
in the state of Utah, but really around the country, Greg,
But we are I mean, we're following. Are we not
a national trend where public school enrollment is starting to drop?

Speaker 2 (17:09):
That's correct. Yeah, we are replacement level for kids per adult.
We're getting dangerously close to that. We're not getting to
the replacement level. But it does amount to declining enrollments
in our schools at Utah, which is we were famous
for having so.

Speaker 1 (17:23):
Many kids, a lot of young families.

Speaker 2 (17:25):
Yeah, we are seeing for the first time, really the
student enrollment in the state of Utah decline, which that's
emerging workforce. That's something to stare at a little bit.

Speaker 1 (17:33):
Yeah. Well, joining us on our newsmaker line to talk
more about that is our good friend JD to Chili.
He is a contributing editor at Reason dot Com. JD,
how are you welcome back to the Riding Greg Show.

Speaker 9 (17:44):
Doing well? Thank you for having me on, JD.

Speaker 1 (17:47):
We talked about what we're seeing in Utah. But are
we seeing this around the country where public school enrollment
is starting to dip?

Speaker 9 (17:53):
Oh? Absolutely, Yeah. The number of students overall peaked at
about fifty point eight million in twenty nineteen, and our
best guests now is we're down below forty nine million.
Projections put us below forty seven million and twenty thirty.
So the total number of students being educated in any

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way is on the decline, and that has a lot
to do with the decline of the TOLLA fertility rate.
We're actually below replacement rate in this country now. But
it also has to do with students fleeing the public
schools and choosing alternatives like charter schools, homeschooling, and private schooling.

Speaker 2 (18:29):
So twenty nineteen is an interesting point of a high
water mark because twenty twenties, when we had COVID arrive
in the month of March, would you contribute some of
the flight out of public schools to what happened to
students in the eyes of their parents during COVID?

Speaker 9 (18:47):
Absolutely what happened was, I mean a lot of schools.
Public schools in particular, dropped the ball when it came
to closing the classrooms, shifting to remote learning and keeping
the classrooms closed for a very long time. They were
under a lot of pressure from teacher gienes, from officials,
and parents didn't like it. They also didn't like what
they saw over their kids' shoulders. In terms of what

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was in the lessons, you know, what passed for lessons,
what passed for teaching style, and a lot of parents
that decided to either get the kids into private schools
if they could afford it, or if they could accomplish
it through school choice plans, or to homeschool their kids
and they did it themselves, or they did it through
learning pods and micro schools basically putting together co op

(19:31):
with other homeschooling families. So you've had a significant growth
in the share of students who are going through education
that is not through traditional public schools.

Speaker 8 (19:43):
But you're also.

Speaker 9 (19:44):
Seeing, which is interesting, is that even as the number
of students declines, as the number of students and public
schools decline, the total number of students in alternative education
different kinds of education, homeschooling, charter schools, private schools, what
have you, is increasing. So not just the share, but
the the absolute number of students is increasing even as
the total number of students to clients.

Speaker 1 (20:05):
Let me ask you this, judy, are we starting to
get any feedback from parents who have taken their children
out of public schools, put them in a charter school,
a private school, a school choice program, have we seen
any feedback yet to get a feel as to how
it's working or is it kind of too early to tell.

Speaker 9 (20:21):
Still, well, you know, when you ask parents, who is
the most satisfied with what they have? The students in
private schools are always, say the parents who have students
in private schools are always the most satisfied. Second most
satisfied or homeschooling families, third most most satisfied or charter

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school families, and bringing up the rear are the parents
that have the kids in traditional public schools. I mean,
that's really pretty solid feedback right there, is that those
who've experienced these different forms of education overall, the traditional
public schools that you know, we've grown up with, you know,
with the standard format, are those that's reached the lowest

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level of satisfaction among parents a student of school a
share of students.

Speaker 2 (21:09):
So in Utah, the story of Utah's school choice program
or Utah Fits All scholarship program that's really backpack funding.

Speaker 3 (21:16):
It follows the trend.

Speaker 2 (21:17):
As you said, I think COVID was really brought enough
support in the legislature to make frankly, make that school
choice a bill veto proof. And so we're seeing that
scholarship program really grow and demand. Homeschoolers are on the
radar now too. It used to be just for private
schools and things, but the micro schools you mentioned in
the homeschoolers are really taking advantage of that scholarship. So

(21:41):
kind of on Rod, leading off of what Rod asked
the trajectory here, do you see this because teachers unions
used to be incredibly powerful and persuasive, I don't see
them going down without a fight. Do you see them
getting a market share of kids back into the public
schools after all of this as maybe the parents age
out that went through COVID, or do you think this
is a trajectory that's going to keep going in terms

(22:02):
of opting for school choice.

Speaker 9 (22:05):
Teachers unions are very unhappy with this. They've been putting
up a fight. They've been fighting for years. The problem
is is that their behavior during COVID kind of hit
the tipping point. They held on for so long to
the idea that schools should be closed. They held on
for so long the idea that they should have full
say over what students are taught, that parents should not

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be allowed input, and they alienated so thoroughly parents that
in the past had actually been on their side that
I think that they've lost that window of opportunity to
reverse this. The number of students that's participating nationally you
talk about backpack funding for education of choice, generally you're
referred to as education savings accounts. The number of students

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that are participating nationally in these kinds of programs increased
by twenty five percent just this year from last year. Nationally,
over one point three million children are now in such
program nationally. Six percent of kids are being homeschooled nationally.
About seven percent of students who are in public school
are actually in charter schools. About ten percent of all

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students are now in private schools, some of them using
in these education safetys accounts, some of them are paying
out of pocket. You are depending them on what state
they're in and the situation of their families. But so
many families now have tried something different, so many of
them like it. The satisfaction rates are so much higher
among alternatives to juditional public education that I don't see

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the traditional public schools getting students back unless they compete
and offer something that is absolutely better that actually appeals
to parents. They're not going to muscle families back into
the public school systems. They're not going to force them
back in. If they're going to get them back, they're
going to have to entice them, and that means competing
with the alternatives. And that's the only path that they

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have that I can see to getting families back in
those schools.

Speaker 1 (23:55):
You know, JD. It all comes down to money, and
in this state, a large portion of our budget goes
toward education. With enrollments decreasing, are there some lawmakers who
are out there saying maybe education does need as much
money as we've been giving it because of a drop
in the number of students enrolled in public schools.

Speaker 7 (24:14):
Oh?

Speaker 8 (24:14):
Absolutely.

Speaker 9 (24:15):
I mean schools closing all over the place. We have
been closing their me they're closing the cities around the country.
I mean the sheer numbers of students enrolled in big
districts like Las Vegas, Miami, Dade, Houston is declining. That
means you close these schools. And you know what, it's
expensive to do that, because now you've got this ghost
building sitting there. It's easier, it's actually cheaper to fund students.

(24:36):
Most of these education saviors account programs only give a
percentage it might be seventy five or eighty or ninety
percent of what's allocated per student of public school, give
them to students for the education of choice, and then
it's portable. And then if the number of students declines,
you don't need the same amount of money. You simply
allocate what you need for the amount of students that's available.

(24:59):
You're not committed to putting up buildings, closing buildings, selling
them all for warehousing them on the hope that maybe
the number of students goes up in the future. So yes,
they're lawmakers who are hoped, who see this as a
cheaper way to educate kids as well as a more
effective way of educating kids. And I think that's a
real path for.

Speaker 1 (25:15):
The future going to be interesting to watch. JD. Always
appreciate your investigative reporting and your insight into this. Thank you, JD.

Speaker 9 (25:23):
Thank you for having me on all right.

Speaker 1 (25:24):
JD too, Chili, contributing editor at Reason dot Com. So
I can about decline in public school and enrollment, and
you say, we're starting to see that here in Utah.
We aren't getting as many kindergarten kids compared to those
who are graduating.

Speaker 2 (25:36):
I got in the legislature in two thousand and three.
I left my last session twenty eighteen. Every single year
I served in that general session, each year we had
more kindergarteners entering our public schools and we had seniors graduating.
So we just saw those numbers going straight up every
single year. Those numbers are now declining. We have more
seniors graduating than kindergarten students entering our public schools.

Speaker 1 (25:56):
Well that's a change.

Speaker 3 (25:57):
It's a big change, all right.

Speaker 1 (25:59):
More coming up. It is the Rod and Greg Show
on talk radio wont oh five nine. Kennor right. Don't
know if you saw this news actor Tom Hanks. Yes,
a lot of people like actor Tom Hanks. Yep, you're looking, yeah,
I kind of right. Well, guess what he was learned
over the weekend. He will no longer be honored by
the Alumni Association of the US Military Academy at West Point.

Speaker 3 (26:21):
Is the alumni do you go to the.

Speaker 1 (26:22):
No, But they were going to honor him for his
public service, but they said, after your criticism of Donald Trump, no, thanks.

Speaker 3 (26:30):
Good. Look.

Speaker 2 (26:31):
I don't know why anyone's fascinated with what Hollywood thinks
about anything. They're just modern day court gesters, that's what
they are. They're here to amuse us, to entertain us.
They're not here to tell us what to think or
how to act. So why would you want them at
a military academy of all places. I'm talking any any star.

Speaker 1 (26:47):
He was going to get some sort of award for
outstanding citizenship.

Speaker 3 (26:51):
Please.

Speaker 1 (26:51):
Yeah.

Speaker 2 (26:52):
Again, I'm not demeaning and out here, but I'm not
putting them up there with doctors. And there's just a
lot of things people do in their life where they're
moving the needle, actors and Hollywood. They're here to entertain us,
that's all they do.

Speaker 1 (27:05):
I want, yeah, I want you to hear this sound bite. Now,
a lot of people feel that gender ideology we all
wrestle with that right now, gives people power over other people.
You have to call me by this name or this name, right, Yes, Well,
listen to this. One trans person, a man who thinks
he's a woman, who decided to go to a few
Residents restaurants and they did not believe what do you

(27:29):
look like?

Speaker 10 (27:29):
I have been misgendered three times in the past twenty
four hours at restaurants. Last night, I was at Benny
Hanna with my girlfriend and the server said, what about you, sir,
what would you like to eat? My girlfriend, God bless
her heart, steps in says, actually, that's ma'am. And she
looks at my girlfriend and didn't really understand what happened
and said, no, I'm.

Speaker 1 (27:49):
Talking to him, pointing at me.

Speaker 10 (27:51):
Our jaws were on the floor, and we decided to
leave because it was.

Speaker 1 (27:55):
Just a bad vibe.

Speaker 10 (27:56):
After that, and just a few minutes ago, I was
at another restaurant for lung and they showed me my
seat and said here you go, sir, and I said,
I am not a sir, and then I left because
I wasn't comfortable anymore. And I went to a new
restaurant and I asked, before I sit down, where's the
bathroom please, and they said, oh, it's right this way, sir,
and I just left because I wasn't comfortable anymore. If

(28:17):
you're a server in the food industry, you don't need
to use words like sir or ma'am. There are ways
to be respectful without using those words. And if you
get it wrong for someone like me, I will probably
leave the restaurant and it puts like a bad vibe
on my day. When it happens, especially when it happens
three times in a row.

Speaker 1 (28:35):
Well, I'm sorry. We put a bad vibe on his day.

Speaker 2 (28:38):
You know, it puts a bad bad vibe in my
day listening to him. This guy, this guy right here,
I mean you, hi again, ma'am, sir. Respect, I mean
you just because you've decided in your head that you're
going to be different.

Speaker 3 (28:53):
You can hear in his voice that's a guy.

Speaker 1 (28:55):
Well, you can put lipstick on, you can put I
makeup on, you can grow your hair, but most people
can go and that's a guy.

Speaker 3 (29:02):
And I don't think they're making up play the statement.

Speaker 2 (29:03):
I think they just think, you know, you're an effeminate guy,
but you're still a dude. I mean, I just I
just don't even They just attached so much. They get
so upset over something that's not meant to be a slight.
It's you're the one that's breaking all the norms. We
can't even keep up with all of it. I mean,
I just you know, allowed to use a pronoun, okay.

Speaker 1 (29:21):
And he said he may not respect or you know
Petronos those restaurants in the future, you think the restaurants care.

Speaker 2 (29:27):
Yeah, I'd say thanks. Seriously, I don't it's a contrived victimization.
It's a literally I just think it's over the top.

Speaker 1 (29:36):
It sure is. All right, We've got a lot to
get to in the five o'clock hour, we'll talk about
that tragedy in Charlotte, in the debate that is going
on a reaction to it. You'll hear exactly what happened
coming up on the Rotten Greg Show in Utah's talk
radio one oh five. Die can' ter? I stay with
us all right? Before we get into this story on

(30:02):
what happened in Charlotte, North Carolina a couple of weeks
ago that's now just getting coverage, Greg, which is very,
very unfortunate. I want to read you, Greg, just a
few headlines from today when it comes to crime in America.
You ready for these new marilynd Man, also known as
illegal Alien, is arrested for murdering a woman and dumping

(30:24):
her body. A pint sized Auburn veterinarian professor hacked to
death by fiends while walking her dog in the park.
Career criminal kills two women, injures a child in Minneapolis
carjacking rampage. According to prosecutors, crime is going down in America.

(30:45):
The sense the public has is it's becoming more dangerous
and more dangerous each and every day.

Speaker 2 (30:50):
Greg Well, and I think that again. I'm looking at
this Axios article, which is such an offense, and it's
trying to say that, you know what the problem is,
cameras touching like they're saying, despite the statistics that will
show you that crime is going down, these these videos
send us a distorted mess. Their only story isn't about
the horrific and and just morbid attack and murder of

(31:15):
that poor woman on that light rail train by that general.

Speaker 3 (31:19):
That's not the story.

Speaker 2 (31:20):
The story is, well, you know what the problem is,
Maga and all these and all these Trump people. They
they're showing all this and this is telling a feeling
a different story. Let me tell you what the different
story is. Their statistics. We have this already document. They
are cooking the books. They're cooking the books in terms
of crime going down. And I use the example all

(31:40):
the time. I talked to a super state superintendent and
he said, you get what you measure. So if you
want to say that a school's doing a good job
or a school district's doing a good job, by how
many kids they graduate, you know how they do a
great job. They'll just graduate everyone, and they don't without
any kind of merit. They'll just graduate everyone. If that's
going to be the measuring stick, well, they they have
in DC, all kinds of urban areas. They have lowered

(32:02):
crime statistics by changing the categories in which they are
charging these crimes and which they file them. And that
is not the crime doesn't go away. Just you recording
it and you documenting it is what's going down.

Speaker 1 (32:14):
Yeah, Now, if you haven't heard the story as of yet,
let me give you a little background on it. A
young woman who fled her war torn country of Ukraine
to come to the United States, only to be murdered
in cold blood while writing a public transit. And this
horrifying story is reminiscent of the same ways to terrible
killings around the country. But this one, apparently the legacy

(32:37):
regime media, whatever you want to call it, has ignored
the story. Now, let me give you a little background
on it. This is a reporter explaining what they're seeing
on the video that happened to that poor woman. It's
nine point six pm.

Speaker 11 (32:52):
You'll notice right away this looks like any other ride
aboard the light rail. People are doing what they do
these days, keeping to themselves, scrolling on their phones as
they ride along. The man accused in the killing De
Carlos Brown, is in the red hoodies on the right
side of your screen.

Speaker 12 (33:09):
He appears to be maybe a little emotional, perhaps a
little agitated, but nothing disruptive. There's nothing that gets anyone's attention.
About thirty seconds later, Irena Zarutska boards. She's wearing a
hat and a T shirt from a pizzeria, and she
sits in the row in front of Brown. She has
earbuds in and is looking at her phone. She too,

(33:30):
is just minding her own business. They ride along for
around four minutes with nothing unusual happening. Then, around nine
point fifty pm, Brown reaches into a pocket. We've zoomed
in on it here he pulls out a pocket knife.
No one notices a thing. Seconds later, he would stand
up and from behind, unprovoked. As we stopped the video,

(33:54):
he would stab the young woman several times. She had
no chance to defend herself. The attack was over in seconds,
and when it was over, Brown walks through the train,
attempting to get off. A Few passengers if any at
first realized what had happened.

Speaker 1 (34:10):
Until they notice drops of blood on the floor.

Speaker 12 (34:14):
Ninety seconds after the attack, a bystander rushes down to
begin lending aid to Zorutska. She would die from her
injuries thirty seconds later, nine p fifty two pm, six
minutes into the video, Brown leaves the light rail.

Speaker 1 (34:30):
Its unbelievable video. Now I haven't watched the actual stabbing.
It stops right. He just raises his hand, his arm
and just about to stabber, and the video stops there.
You can see it if you want. I'm not interested.
There are some people who have been looking at It
is absolutely horrific. He walked through that train car greg
with blood dripping off the knife that he just used

(34:52):
to stabber numerous times, blood dripping all over the floor,
walks up and down, turns around and gets off the train.

Speaker 2 (35:00):
It's it's I had a hard time believing. Honestly, I
had a hard time believing this story was real. I
thought we were getting baited into some other It is
so beyond the pale and the part that I was.
I was reading a lot of posts from Elon Musk
where he was just showing the Zeros that nobody is
reporting this anywhere.

Speaker 1 (35:15):
Yeah.

Speaker 2 (35:16):
No, And and for something that's that horrific, I thought, well,
when you have a zero, you have a donut. No
one something's off. This can't this video must not be true.
I didn't believe it really till this morning when I
saw how much attention is it's finally getting at least
from some that it was actually a real thing, because
I it's I cannot comprehend how AP, for example, can

(35:39):
cover the George Floyd, which you don't have any video.
You get video eventually later during the investigation with the
body cams from the officers, but you don't have the
same the video that you have with this. And again
Elon Musk postsed seventy four thousand articles from the AP
zero George on George Floyd zero is up to day

(36:00):
zero about this woman that was murdered, and I just
I thought that was I thought, that's just too shot.
That can't be real.

Speaker 1 (36:08):
Well, I mean the mayor of Charlotte, her name is Vylyles,
very soft on crime, pro crime mayor right called the
fatal stabbing of the young woman a tragic situation, then
underscored broader challenges when it comes to mental health and homelessness.
She can't even think of the victim and immediately goes

(36:31):
to the democratic talking points. We need to do more
about mental illness and homelessness in our city, not one
thinking about this twenty three year old woman who came
to this country to find peace and rides on a
transit train after working at a pizza parler to see
her being stabbed. Now. Elon Musk also posted on social

(36:52):
media this comment from a social media post. His name
is Kaisan Acido and he talks about what the mayor
had to say.

Speaker 13 (36:59):
This is a textbook emotional argument. When someone does evil,
we get told to be empathetic. Emphasis is placed on
systemic issues outside of their control rather than the factors
within their control. We're lectured about not villainizing them. We
get told to call them unhoused instead of homeless, changing
the terms, instead of fixing the problem. Their choice to

(37:22):
do evil gets compared to an involuntary disease like cancer.
The implication is the killer is the victim, not the villain.
This manipulation tactic exploits a logical fallacy called appeal to emotion.
It causes us to ignore facts just so that we
don't seem mean. It creates false equivalencies, making us think
that the mental health of violent people is as important

(37:45):
as a physical safety of their victims.

Speaker 1 (37:47):
You know, Greg, I am getting so sick and tired
of people saying people like this guy are insane and
they didn't know what they were doing bull loaning. I'm
just tired of it. Well, because they know what they're doing.

Speaker 2 (38:01):
Well, here's here's the familiar pattern of these leftists. Okay,
and and by the way, ask yourself, why wouldn't any
media outlet cover this. Well, it doesn't fit their narrative.
It doesn't fit the narrative that they've that they've wanted
to push out there. And this is a party I'm
going to tell you. I think that the these leftists
are prone to violence. They use violence as a mechanism
to make people afraid, and they use that fear to

(38:22):
get their way. And I think you have we have
so many examples. Whether it was the mass murderer that
went to the Catholic private school, they immediately started talking
about everything but the fact that this guy did it.
They want you to feel sorry for it, just as
he that gentleman brought up. They want you to look
at broader issues. But just flip the script. Change change
the narrative that this is, you know, change the color

(38:43):
of the victim and the and the perpetrated. Uh, change
the politics of the person committing it. The left would
go after this full throated if they felt that it
achieved their political ends. They would they would show this
video if if they felt like it was going to
further their agenda. You would see it seventy four thousand

(39:04):
times like you did another story. But you don't because
they don't, and they excuse us violence. This violence is
fine if if it's the narrative, it's their narrative.

Speaker 1 (39:14):
Well, you and I and how many of our listeners
right now we're thinking, what would this story be like
if it would have been a deranged white man attacking
a black woman on a train. What would that story
be like today? It would have gotten instant coverage all
around the country. So, you know, think of the stories
George Floyd, Trayvon Martin, Michael Bennett, all of them got

(39:37):
amazing riots broke out, yes because of what happening. Are
you saying one rioting today on behalf of this poor woman?

Speaker 2 (39:44):
You know, it's so much easier for us because we
just hate violence period. If you if someone's going to
kill someone, we're not really down with that. So I
don't really care their color, I don't care their politics.
I'm against that they're not. I'm telling you the left
cannot get outraged on this. They have to explain it
away because it undermines their soft on crime there. You
know everything that they're doing to dismantle this country and

(40:05):
its foundational institutions. If you get after public safety, and
you really want public safety, it works against their end goal.
So they're stuck not being able to talk about it.

Speaker 1 (40:15):
There were fourteen felony charges brought against this man. He
has fourteen different mud shots and Fox News has shown
those today. What do you do about this? We've got
a lot more to say on this, but we'd like
to hear from you as well. Eight eight eight five
seven eight zero one zero on your cell phone dial
pound two fifty and say hey Rod, or download the
iHeartRadio app. I can type incanarrest dot com and you

(40:37):
can leave us a talk back line. Love to get
your thoughts on this. We have more information to share
and we'll do so coming up on The Rodd and
Greg Show. And Utah's Talk radio one oh five nine knrs.
She was working in a pizza parlor and got off
work late one night, took the public transit system in
in Charlotte and behind her it' said a man who'd

(40:59):
been arrested fourteen times, charged with fourteen felonies, obviously very disturbed.
Some say he didn't know what he was doing. I
disagree with that. I think he did. But he stands
up behind her, she just not knowing this at all,
just paying attention to her own business, pulls out a
knife and stabs her and kills her. This happened back

(41:19):
on Augus twenty second. Greg, I don't know why even
we didn't pick up on this. Fox News didn't pick
up on this, but it was picked up over the
weekend with the release of the video. And the video
is very very disturbing.

Speaker 2 (41:31):
It is and I think that what and I think
what got this thing going viral is I think that
somehow Elon Musk came across this, or maybe it was
happening all at the same time. I don't know, but
he has brought a lot of attention to this, and
I think that his point has been when the New
York Times, CNN, Washington Post, MSNBC, NPR, USA Today, Reuters, Axios,
ABC News, and PBS don't have one single thing to

(41:55):
say about this.

Speaker 3 (41:55):
And this has been out for a while.

Speaker 2 (41:57):
He's saying, if you want news, you're gonna have to
start looking at source material, and you can find on
X source material. Because he is so outraged that this,
and he wants to get involved in the laws that
would allow something like this to happen. That's how Elon
Musk is. He gets c ces and justice and he
wants to do something. So the fact that that these
that these what I call regime media, legacy media, whatever

(42:20):
you want to call it, they are just ignoring this,
it really does leave the public. You've got to go
find your information elsewhere because they all have an agenda.
And I would have I would have thought we would
have seen more. Even I think Fox News is covering
it now. There's some conservative outlets that are, but I
even think they were slowly for this.

Speaker 1 (42:37):
Yeah, well the President spoke about this today.

Speaker 3 (42:39):
But there are evil people and we have to confront that.

Speaker 14 (42:42):
I just give my love and hope to the family
of the young woman who was stabbed this morning or
last night, in Charlotte by a madman, a lunatic just
got up and started. It's right on a tape, not
not really watchable because it's so horrible, but just viciously
stab she's just sitting there.

Speaker 3 (43:02):
So they're evil people. We have to be able to
handle that.

Speaker 14 (43:06):
If we don't handle that, we don't have a country.

Speaker 15 (43:08):
Well.

Speaker 1 (43:08):
I wonder there are some people, I think Greg anymore,
who don't feel this country is safe. They can't even
get on a like a UTA track strain without the
fear of being attacked or stabbed like what happened in Charlotte.
And we have a very soft on crime mayor. She
would let all the all the criminals run out on
the streets if it was up thereon Mendenol.

Speaker 2 (43:28):
I hate to tell you folks, we do have catchup
and we have judges. If it's a felony, they don't
they don't give bail. They don't have bail anymore. They
don't have a standard of holding someone. They think it's
unequitable to charge a bail off someone's poor versus if
someone you know could pay for the bail bondsman or
whatever the bail might be. So they've decided to let
everybody out on cash, just a cashless bail where you

(43:50):
just promise to return. You have some parameters for a
pre trial release, of which if they violate, you can't
even re arrest them. After they got that passed, they
then said it's on constitutional if they violated to bring
them back to Joe, you can't incarcerate and without charging. Now,
because it's the government, you have to try them for that.

(44:11):
I mean, it is.

Speaker 3 (44:12):
It is a sham.

Speaker 2 (44:14):
And this is where I think that there's too much
with the the left. They are a party of violence.
They will justify it. They don't care what the constitution says,
what the rule of law says, what our cultural norms are.
They it all is justified if it furthers their political ends.

Speaker 1 (44:29):
And if you heard one Democrat as of today even
talk about this, not one, not one. Well we have
a few talkback comings on that lesson listen.

Speaker 16 (44:37):
Then solution, it's a non popular solution, but we just
need to do what we did in the past. Bring
back the state hospitals in the poorhouse, your mentally ill
state hospital, you're an addict state hospital, you're a homeless

(44:58):
protected Nobody wants to do that.

Speaker 1 (45:00):
Yeah, nobody wants to do that, But that's the solution,
possibly a possible solution to all of this. Here's another
comment on our talk pack line.

Speaker 17 (45:10):
Hello Greg and Rod Steve from Lighton. Why is it
surprising that the news is not reporting something like this
which is bad looking towards the Democrats? When Biden administration
allowed the Source Corporation to buy up all kinds of
radio stations and TV stations and control the news, it's

(45:32):
almost time that the average person, the average community, takes
care of the wild dogs of ourselves.

Speaker 1 (45:38):
Well, I think, Greg, you're going to have to, like
you said, you're going to have to find the news
out for yourself anymore. You cannot depend on the regime
media to tell you what's going on in this world.
They will give you their narrative, the narrative of the
Democratic Party. Oh look, nothing happened here. Don't look, don't
worry about it, nothing happened here. That's the attitude they
want you to take when it comes to stories like this.

Speaker 2 (45:58):
And what I can't figure out is we're seeing their
ratings plummet. The public is walking away trust from the
regime media. Their numbers do not justify I don't even
think they justify their existence in terms of how many
viewers they have versus you know, how much it costs
to stay open. Somehow they're still able to stay open.
But I don't think people do. And I'll say, even
locally talking to people, if there's something in the Salt

(46:21):
Lake Tribune or the Desert News or some what used
to be news sources for the state issues here, no
one's really seen it. Nobody really reads these things every
day anymore. They're just they don't have the influence that
they used to have, and I didn't like I thought
they had undue influence in my day. But there isn't
a news cycle with them as much because nobody's really

(46:42):
tracking that anymore. And with like social media acts other things,
you can go find source material for it to get
the truth. And all they keep doing is sending us
to source material because they can't report an honest story
about an honest event anymore.

Speaker 3 (46:58):
They can't do it.

Speaker 1 (46:58):
All right, We've got a lot more to get two
and more. Your calls coming up eight eight eight five
seven eight zero one zero on your cell phone dial
pound two fifteen and say hey Rod, or leave us
a talkback message. More coming up on the Rod and
Greg Show and Talk Radio one oh five nine kN Ars,
who had come to this country from her own country
of Ukraine to find peace. She'd been working, trying to

(47:19):
make a living and get things going, working at a
pizza parley. She got off late one night, as she
typically does, boarded a transit train in Charlotte, Me and him,
not bothering anybody at all, sitting there quietly on the
train on her phone. There was a man sitting behind her. Disturbed.
Man had been arrested on fourteen felon accounts apparently something happening.

(47:42):
He stands up behind her without her knowing it and
stabs her in the neck several times, killing her. He
walks off the train and police arrest him later. No
one reported this, I think, including Fox News that I
can recall until this video where was released, very very
disturbing video. If you haven't seen it yet, that's up
to you if you want to watch it, but we

(48:03):
have had explanations. You can see what's going on. You
can see him simply leaving the transit train, blood dripping
off his knife, leaving it on the floor, just walking out.
Police arrest him later. He'd been arrested on fourteen felon accounts.
There are fourteen different mudshots of this guy, So the
question is how did he get out on the street, you.

Speaker 2 (48:25):
Know, and the judges that let him out, we should
know who they are. There should be transparency with this
judiciary and we should know the catch and release scam
that's going on. I mean, Soros started this, but now
that you know that, how the federal money could get
funneled to these leftists as well, the money that's been
used to just break down law and order and to
destroy public safety in America. It's a real issue. So

(48:48):
Axios dot com left of center, yes, being shamed over
the weekend for zero coverage of this like all the
other regime media. They finally decided to cover it, but
this is how they covered it. Line stabbing video fuels
MAGA crime message. Okay, what they want readers to know
is that MAGA influencers are drawing repeated attention to violent

(49:11):
attacks to elevate the issue of urban crime and accuse
mainstream media media of undercovering shocking cases. Okay, you know
what the big picture is? According to Axios, the rising
number of surveillance cameras in public spaces, including Charlotte's light
Rail has become a big accelerant in these cases. The
video is easily shared or leaked and instant and can

(49:33):
instantly pollinate across social media. This is the point, a
visual counterpoint to statistics showing crime decreases. So what they're
saying is the fact that we saw that, which it
speaks a thousand words and more. That's the problem because
that's showing an inaccurate The crime is fine because there's

(49:53):
because crime statistics, according to them, is actually going down.
This would tell a different message. And so this is
trying to create an issue that doesn't exist. It's nothing
about the poor victim. It's not about her being brutally
murdered for I mean, it's not about the savagery of it.
It's it's maga. They're the problem and the factor. We
saw it those darn video cameras. Remember was it after

(50:16):
George Floyd where they were pushing We need body cams, Oh,
maybe even before that. We need body cams. Well, guess
what you've got. Body cams.

Speaker 1 (50:24):
Oftentimes you show the situation involving police the officer acted correctly. Yes,
sometimes you don't, but most often you do. You have
body cams, not body cams, but cameras everywhere in this
country right now. They even go after the ring doorbell
cameras sometimes you know, yes you. Kurt Slickter texted out
this a while ago. I was talking to you during

(50:44):
the break. He was saying, watch the public debate begin
now as Democrats will call for elimination of those cameras
just because they're displaying the inconvenient truth. That's what we
saw in that Terrain and trouble.

Speaker 2 (50:57):
If you if you could see what happens in Chicago
at night when all these people are murdered and shot,
nobody would be un comfortable with it. The example in
sports would be the Baltimore Raven running back who was
suspended for six games for hitting his fiance in an
elevator in a Vegas casino. As soon as the camp
the released footage of that of him hitting her became

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public and we saw it, he never played another down
in the NFL. He was gone because what you saw
was just unacceptable. It was just beyond the pale. It
was a six game suspension on the report, but when
you saw it, he was done in the NFL, and.

Speaker 3 (51:32):
That was it.

Speaker 2 (51:33):
Because the gravity of that situation hit people when you
see it versus statistics and reports that don't leave you
with the reality of what happened.

Speaker 1 (51:42):
If the American people do not see the bias in
the reporting of the regime media, I don't know what
more is illustrative of that than this right now. And
just think about this Greg I mentioned he's been arrested
what fourteen times, fourteen to fel on accounts right How
do police feel about this? I mean, if you're a
police officer and you've seen this guy coming in and

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out of the police department every time, the jail, every
time in a set free by some judge or some prosecutor,
probably helped get elected by George Soros, wants to be
soft on crime, and you're a police officer out there
trying to protect the public and city officials and law enforcement.
The judicial system doesn't care.

Speaker 3 (52:23):
Well, you know that.

Speaker 2 (52:24):
I'd like to work with our sheriffs or really elected
sheriffs and their deputy sheriffs, and so I know a
little bit about this. We have some frustration with law
enforcement where they catch criminals in the act of heinous
crimes before they can finish their paperwork. They're getting let out,
and there's almost it's almost it starts to feel pointless
if you're going to try and put together probable cause

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you're putting all this stuff together and they're already getting
let out, and who knows if they come back for
their their you know, if they fail to appear or not.
But it is demoralizing. I would argue for law enforcement
to be trying their level best to protect the public.
You have these radical prosecutors and judges who are just
it's all about their race, it's all about their their

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you know, their circumstances. The violent crime criminals are the
victims themselves, that's what they argue. And law enforcementress trying
to bring public safety and they're at odds with those
that are supposed to be, you know, the protecting the
rule of law and helping them protect the public.

Speaker 1 (53:23):
All right, let's go to our phone call, see what
you have to say. Tonight we go to Josh and
Harriman tonight here on the Rodd and Gregg Show. Josh,
how are you? Thanks so much for joining us tonight.

Speaker 4 (53:32):
Great, thanks for the call. Hey, I just wanted to
mention we also need to watch our judges here in Utah.
As well as video surveillance. My wife was recently hit
by a drunk driver. Dy do he hit someone else first?
It was a hit and run, no insurance, ran and
t boned her, told her card and his and when
they went to court, the judge didn't watch the video.

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He was found guilty, but the judge waived all fees
and penalties against him. He did have to do forty
hours of community service, but that was the penalty for
and he was about he had been a repeat offender
before this.

Speaker 1 (54:08):
Forty hours of community service. Josh, and that's all he got.
Really Yeah, yep.

Speaker 4 (54:15):
So first of all, the prosecutor has telling me that's typical.

Speaker 1 (54:18):
Yeah. First of all, Josh, is your wife okay?

Speaker 4 (54:23):
Yeah, thankfully she was in a good car. Again, it
was total but she she walked away. I think haven't
helped her. And the prosecutor even said most people in
that type of accident when you watch the video, he said,
a lot of people dying less.

Speaker 1 (54:36):
But yeah, Josh.

Speaker 3 (54:38):
Brings up a good point.

Speaker 1 (54:39):
Yeah he does.

Speaker 2 (54:40):
And I'll just say that maybe we were hitting a break.
These retention elections for judges are a joke. You don't
have any information and there's none. They've brought the people
into this process of retaining judges every six years, okay,
and tenant reten years for a state supreme court. Remember,
but there is no basis, there's no information, There is
no information to base that retention or nuts they're up

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to like ninety five and ninety eight percent, I mean
ninety nine. Maybe there's nobody. Nobody kicks out these judges
in these retention elections because we don't have any information
to base it on. The transparency that Josh just talked about.
It absolutely needs to happen in Utah because that judge
who gave someone that kind of leniency and that kind
of serious accident in crime ought to people when they're

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going to retain a judge or not ought to know
that judge's name and that that's the way they rule.

Speaker 3 (55:26):
We should know this.

Speaker 1 (55:27):
Why are these judges brought before a Senate committee in
this state? I mean, is this system so messed up?
Why are they not brought before a senate committee who
can call these people out, ask them their opinions or
to get an idea of how they've ruled in the past.
Why isn't that going on in.

Speaker 2 (55:43):
This I would tell you that if you asked a
senator whose job it is to initially confirm them when
they're given the appointment by the governor, that first off,
that process has very little information. And I think that
they're going to start looking much closer at these nominations
just by way of Senate right rule they do, because
there's just there there's a lot of bad actors like
the one Josh has described. They're getting through this vetting process,

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so called vetting process, but once they're in, good luck
finding how a judge ever rules if there's a paywall
on the search engine the attorney's use, but if you
pay for it, you can't even you don't have the
skill set to find and aggregate. Well, how these judges
rule to ever know? Including lawmakers, they do not know
Rod to have the hearing to call something.

Speaker 3 (56:25):
Like this in the question.

Speaker 1 (56:26):
That needs to change?

Speaker 3 (56:27):
Oh does it ever?

Speaker 7 (56:28):
All?

Speaker 1 (56:28):
Right? More coming up on the Rod and Greg Show
and Talk Radio one O five nine can LS. We're
talking about the tragic stabbing there in Charlotte and the
judges letting a guy out even though he had fourteen
felony charges against him. We've had a couple of talkback
listeners leave a comment about judges in Utah.

Speaker 17 (56:47):
Hello Rod and Greg, this is Stephen Layton again.

Speaker 3 (56:50):
Hey, just a question.

Speaker 17 (56:52):
So there was case law where parents were held accountable
and actually convicted for one of the mass shootings because
they the child was going to be a danger. How
come judges that released the guy after fourteen times are
not charged?

Speaker 2 (57:09):
Also, it's a good question, very good question, and there
ought to be. I'm telling you there needs to be
more transparency with this judiciary because they are making decisions
that their neighbors in the neighborhood they live in would
not be okay with.

Speaker 3 (57:21):
I'm telling you there's another great comment.

Speaker 15 (57:24):
Hi, Rod and Greg. Ten years ago, I had my
cars hom twice in four months, and the second time
that he was recovered, I found out that this guy
had stolen cars eighteen times before. Because he was let
off by judges twice in four months. We've got a

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problem here in Utah with the judges.

Speaker 1 (57:48):
Eight thank you, eighteen times.

Speaker 3 (57:52):
That's what they taught him for. You know, he's stole
more in eighteen cars.

Speaker 2 (57:55):
If he had eighteen cases, eighteen cases, you know that's
and a judge of len them off.

Speaker 3 (58:00):
Yeah, and that's here in the State of Utah.

Speaker 1 (58:02):
Who is going to have the courage in this Utah
legislature to take up a charge. I get a sense
that the Utah public is asking for now, do something
about these judges.

Speaker 2 (58:13):
You need to, and it is you really do. I
don't know what the moral or the principled argument is.
When you have a retention election that you have ensured
not just by chance, but they have ensured there is
zero information about the names on that ballot of what
you're asked to retain. You don't know one thing about
them by design. I don't know how they can argue
against opening up and giving the record of how they

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rule and on the circumstances of which they make decisions.
If you're going to ask for the retention of the public,
there should be information to base that decision on.

Speaker 1 (58:44):
And there's zero. Well, why not a list? These are
the cases that came before me concerning DUI. This is
what happened to those cases? You know, you don't if
a judge is letting these guys for a slap on
the wrist like that. One guy just called and told
us about what do you gonna do about that judge?

Speaker 3 (59:00):
Eighteen cases?

Speaker 5 (59:01):
You know?

Speaker 2 (59:01):
He storm more and eighteen cars. Josh's case, the prosecutor
told him that, oh, you know, duy no insurance almost
you know, could harm someone, rex into them. Yeah, they've
always let them go without any no fine, no nothing,
just forty hours of community service.

Speaker 3 (59:15):
I just let the people know that I don't.

Speaker 1 (59:17):
Like to tell people how I vote, but when it
comes to elections on judges.

Speaker 3 (59:22):
No idea across the board too.

Speaker 1 (59:24):
No retention whatsoever. All right, more coming up the third
hour the Rod and Greg Show, it's the next day
with us. We were talking about this new poll out
young people in socialism. You're right, you know, and I
think young people feel they're locked in. They can't they
can't take advantage of what you and I were able
to take advantage of, Greg, and that's why they're looking

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towards socialism as a way out, you know.

Speaker 17 (59:48):
I know.

Speaker 2 (59:49):
The Glenn Beck on his radio program this morning delved
into these numbers in the cross tabs, but just real quickly,
the I guess i'd argue the good news is the
Gallup poll of those that are registered to vote, just
generally without crosstabs, do you have a positive or negative
view of socialism? Positive was thirty nine percent negative was
fifty seven percent. But when you broke it down by party,

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democrats a favor or have a positive impression of a
positive view of socialism. Sixty six percent of Democrats have
a positive view of socialism, thirty percent of a negative.
Republicans for only fourteen percent of positive, eighty six percent negative.
Independent voters are thirty eight percent positive and fifty seven

(01:00:32):
percent negative. But here's the one that you're saying that's
really worrisome. The eighteen to thirty four year olds forty
nine percent positive to forty six percent negative. They're actually
they're actually looking at at something like commun or socialism,
because I think this is a demographic that feels like
they're left out right now of an economy.

Speaker 1 (01:00:52):
And future voters and they are.

Speaker 3 (01:00:53):
The emerging voting class.

Speaker 1 (01:00:55):
A little levity into the show today.

Speaker 3 (01:00:57):
Yeah.

Speaker 1 (01:00:58):
Scott Jennings, who we love on CNS We do, was
on with Jake Tapper ur their Sunday show yesterday. He
was asked by Jake Tapper, who is the new leader
of the Democratic Party.

Speaker 18 (01:01:07):
Well, I mean for the foreseeable future, the person who's
running the Democratic Party now is going to be running it.

Speaker 1 (01:01:11):
That's Donald Trump. I mean, the only thing I know.

Speaker 18 (01:01:13):
How to do is be against whatever he is for.
And so there is no leader of the party except
for Trump. The beating heart of the Democratic Party is
if Trump is for it, we're against it, and you
throw a little socialism on the side.

Speaker 4 (01:01:25):
That's basically how they.

Speaker 1 (01:01:26):
Are, all right, I know.

Speaker 12 (01:01:28):
Let the record reflect that the two Democrats at the
panel disagreed with what.

Speaker 1 (01:01:31):
He had to say. The beating heart of the Democratic
Party is Donald Trump.

Speaker 2 (01:01:35):
We'll prove him wrong. Tell me something about Trump, you like,
if they couldn't do it.

Speaker 1 (01:01:39):
They can't do it. No, they can't, all right?

Speaker 5 (01:01:41):
Uh?

Speaker 1 (01:01:41):
Speaking of the President, the Supreme Court handed the President
a big victory today, green lighting his push for tougher
immigration enforcement in la in a six to three ruling.
My guess is that followed right along conservative versus liberal lines.
The Court lifted a lower court injunction that had barred
federal lagens from conducting raids without what the judge called

(01:02:03):
reasonable suspicion. The High Court said, now it doesn't matter.
They can do what they need to do. Well, joining
us on our newsmaker line to get reaction to that
and the results of a new investigation into the la
Ice riots is Ira Melman, Foundation for American Immigration Reform. Iira,
thank you very much for joining us tonight your reaction
to the Supreme Court ruling today, Ira.

Speaker 19 (01:02:25):
Well, certainly not the elected officials in la There probably
are a lot of happy people who recognize the impact
that it's having on their sitting and on their state.

Speaker 1 (01:02:34):
But again, I mean that's.

Speaker 19 (01:02:36):
A very different group of people than the ones.

Speaker 1 (01:02:38):
Who run California.

Speaker 19 (01:02:40):
But in an event, you know, the courts are siding
with the president, asserting the fact that the president has
the power to enforce our immigration laws, and that you know,
state and local governments may not like what the administration
is doing, but they are not in a position to
interfere with the execution of the law.

Speaker 2 (01:02:58):
I reckon, I ask you a question, is this ruling
broad enough and strong enough where you don't have some
nuanced slight change and another activist judge stop it in
another jurisdiction? I mean, are they Is the Supreme Court
going to continue to be peppered by these judicial activists
that are there with these rulings or rulings like this
from the Supreme Court?

Speaker 3 (01:03:19):
Quiet that effort?

Speaker 19 (01:03:21):
Well, I guess the answer is probably the strategy is
for them to try to run the clock here. That
was the strategy during the first Trump administration. Anything that
the president did, they would take them to court. It
would delay implementation of these policies, and eventually the term
runs out. So you know that that is probably a

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key part of their playbook and we have to expect it.
But you know, here you have the Supreme Court. You
don't get higher than the Supreme Court saying the President.

Speaker 1 (01:03:52):
Has the authority to carry out the laws of.

Speaker 19 (01:03:55):
The United States, and that the state and local governments really,
you know, they may not like it, but they have
to step out of the way and let the federal
government do its job.

Speaker 1 (01:04:06):
Well, let's talk now about the investigation that Fair has
been involved in. You've think is basically taking a look
at the anti ice rias with a coordinated campaign. What
exactly did you find out, Ira.

Speaker 19 (01:04:17):
Well, you know, much like some of the other sort
of civil unrest that we've seen in this country over
the past few years, whether it was the Black Lives
Matter matters riots and protests back in twenty twenty, the
campus unrest that we've seen over the past couple of years,
This is not spontaneous. This is being created by outside agitators,

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including some who are outside of the United States. So
you have interest groups that are beholden to China, to
other hostile powers that are engaged in trying to foment
unrest here in the United States. You know, they just
look for whatever causes belly that can come up with
activate their street troops. You have well meaning Americans who

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understandably might disagree with the policies the administration, but behind
them you have paid political protesters, people who are out
to cause disruption in this country, and every time they
have some pretense to get out there, they will go
out there and do it. And that's exactly what we
saw in Los Angeles when ICE was enforcing laws in

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that city. You have these outside agitating groups sending in people,
creating all kinds of havoc, attacking ICE agents, and the
administration said enough is enough, and they sent in federal
law enforcement, they sent in the National Guard, and they
quelled it.

Speaker 2 (01:05:43):
So you know, that's one thing though, for these organizations
to do the astro turf runt of protester protests. But
in Los Angeles, this one violent, This became a riot
so if you can find the receipts of who paid
for because it was highly coordinated that you saw the
palette of the true that came in with the helmets
that they could wear in terms of protecting themselves while

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they were rioting. Is there legal liability? Is this a crime,
especially if you have a foreign government money that might
be or foreign money that might be coming in to
try and cause this unrest when you go from protest
to riot. Is there any kind of criminal or even
national security issue that comes along with it.

Speaker 19 (01:06:21):
Absolutely, and you know they should be prosecuted when they
engaged in violence. And again this is nothing new. We
saw this in twenty twenty during the Black Lives Matter
protests where they turned they became violent. We've seen this
campus pros and protests, the prohamas agitators on campus. All
of these things have led to violence and the people

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who are behind the violence need to be held accountable.
You know, we need to start going after some of
the domestic players who encourage and bet the violence, but
also we need to impost consequences on foreign into these
are paying some of these people to go out there
and create havoc and really undermine the fabric of American society.

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What they're trying to do is so discontent in this
country and they're using any excuse that they can to
try to do this. And you know, we don't have
to sit and tolerate foreign governments interfering the domestic affairs
of the United States.

Speaker 1 (01:07:20):
All right, you're talking about these foreign entities. Apparently this
includes some Chinese networks and their cartels as well. Are
both involved in this, do you think, Ira.

Speaker 19 (01:07:30):
Oh, absolutely, you know, especially on this issue. You know,
the cartels have an interest in open borders. They were
making money hand over fists during the Biden years. They're
clearly not happy about what has changed over the past
seven or eight months. China has a long record of
doing this, you know. You know, there was Chinese money

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that has been behind the pro Hamas protests and violence
that have taken place around the country. So this is
clearly part of their policy undermine the United States. And again,
we as a nation do not have to tolerate foreign
governments and foreign entities coming in here and messing in

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the domestic affairs of the United States.

Speaker 2 (01:08:13):
You know, one of the big curtain pullbacks and reveals
and the second administration from Trump. For me personally has
been the role of NGOs and how these leftist organizations
are receiving hundreds of millions of dollars of taxpayer money,
keeping a lot of it, but spending a lot of
it in causes that I don't know that every American
would be excited about. Have you found any evidence of

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any of those that federal NGO money that's been running
around inside these protests and some of these coordinated efforts.

Speaker 19 (01:08:42):
We've seen that during the bind administration, you had these
organizations that were ostensibly there to help the migrants once
they reached the country, but these were also political organizations
that were number one lobbying for open Bordersnumber two. We
are now seeing that some of them have been involved

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in these violent protests against ICE in Los Angeles and elsewhere.
I think one of the groups meant and mentioned in
the report is TURLA, the Coalition for Humane Immigrant Immigrant Rights.
They you know, they were certainly instrumental in the Biden policy.
There was money funnel to all of these organizations over
the course of those four years, and they have both

(01:09:26):
a political agenda and also a financial stake in trying
to perpetuate what they had over the past four years.

Speaker 1 (01:09:33):
From fair Ira Melman joining us on our newsmaker line
talking about the anti ice riots in Los Angeles well
organized and designed to be disruptive. You know, Greg, there
was a story last week about these anonymous federal judges
who are very upset with the Supreme Court. How do
you think they're feeling today after the court ruled in
favor of Donald Trump again?

Speaker 2 (01:09:52):
Oh, I'm sure they have a lot of things to say,
you know, come on, yep, yeah, undermining their own.

Speaker 1 (01:10:00):
R Yeah, all right, more coming up the Rod and
Gregg Show on Utah's Talk Radio one oh five, Dying
Can't Arrest. Having one of those Monday moments.

Speaker 2 (01:10:08):
I think I heard gunshots in that bumper music. I
don't know if I did. I think that's what distracted No.

Speaker 1 (01:10:12):
No, I think it's imagined dragons. Okay, okay, does that
make sense? Non me.

Speaker 2 (01:10:19):
It's a bit catchy, but I was just I think
it distracted me. Yeah, sorry, squirrel, squirrel.

Speaker 7 (01:10:27):
Yeah.

Speaker 1 (01:10:27):
We were happy to discussion the last hour about what
had happened in Charlotte and all the angles to that.
We got onto this topic of judges and retaining judges
and list of these callers on our talkback line leaving
us messages about judges. You know, if you don't prosecute
the criminals, of course crime is down.

Speaker 17 (01:10:49):
Duh.

Speaker 1 (01:10:51):
That's what Nathaniel's got to say from Sulake.

Speaker 3 (01:10:54):
Thank you, Nathaniel. He's one hundred percent right.

Speaker 20 (01:10:56):
You don't prosecute, you don't count them, they don't exist.

Speaker 1 (01:11:00):
Crime is down, Thank you Democrats. And that's what you've
been saying all along.

Speaker 2 (01:11:05):
Yep, it doesn't mean it's not happening. Crime isn't going down.
You're just not reporting your reporting of it's gone down.

Speaker 1 (01:11:11):
You know what it is so funny about all of
this greg right now is the Democrats are trying every
which way they can to convince the American public that
crime is down, and the people don't feel it. It's
like Joe Biden telling the American people the economy is
doing well. There wasn't one American out there who felt it, yeah,

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was going wrong. The Democrats do not understand. They do not,
as I like to say, read the room.

Speaker 2 (01:11:37):
They know how to do it well. They operate in
a world of perception. They don't operate in a world
of reality. Everything's that, everything's Kabooki theater for Democrats. They
just want to they want to create narratives. They want
to create, you know, ideas that don't actually comport with
with reality.

Speaker 3 (01:11:51):
But that's what they've always done.

Speaker 7 (01:11:52):
Yeah.

Speaker 1 (01:11:52):
Yeah, here's another one of our talkback comments.

Speaker 5 (01:11:55):
Greg and Rod doing a great job, best local radio. Hey,
this is James and Orum. Just wanted to put one
little input in here. It may not be the right
way to go about it, but I do vote know
on every single judge. Don't have any way to know

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what they're doing, good or bad. I just figure I'm
gonna vote know because most of them have been there
too long.

Speaker 1 (01:12:23):
All right, NIC's coming and you're right. Has there ever
been a judge in this state who has not been retained?

Speaker 3 (01:12:28):
There are few and far between. There have been a couple.

Speaker 1 (01:12:31):
They're involved in something real shady.

Speaker 2 (01:12:34):
Well, there was one case where there was a there
was a no, no, it's not shady. What it is
is there was one one particular judge where there was
the way this judge handled a hunter.

Speaker 3 (01:12:45):
It was on the news.

Speaker 2 (01:12:46):
It's got a lot of attention right before a retention election,
and that that judge was not retained. But outside of
that example I just shared most of these is I've
looked into them. There are fellow judges that are angry
at one and they actually mount a campaign against and
it's really on their turf. It's not on principle or
catch and release, but whatever inner judiciary branch conflict they had,

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they actually went out of their way to make sure
a judge was not retained, because again, that would be
the judge that would know how to find information to
put out to the public for them to retain or not.
So usually these are internal squabbles that are actually determined
in a retention election, and the poor public we've just
never had any information about any of these judges that's tangible.
We don't have any.

Speaker 1 (01:13:30):
Well, I keep on getting this note during an election
or before an election. Here's how you review judges. Oh yeah, hoop.

Speaker 3 (01:13:37):
That's called the Judicial Conduct Commission.

Speaker 2 (01:13:39):
And let me tell you what that's made up of
attorneys that appear before those those judges. You can't ask
an attorney to give you the inside baseball on a
judge because they could be disbarred for disparaging a judge.
So the attorneys that work that have to be in
front of these judges can never say one ill word
about those who say they're fundamentally unfair. They can't tell
you that or they could be disbarred.

Speaker 3 (01:14:00):
Card.

Speaker 2 (01:14:00):
So you have this conduct commission, and man, everybody amazingly
is great.

Speaker 3 (01:14:05):
They'll have one.

Speaker 2 (01:14:06):
They'll have some outlier there where they'll say that we
don't recommend that person being retained. But even that system,
because it's so unreliable and it doesn't really go into
the judges that much, no one really tracks that commission
and its recommendations very well. I say, put the records
out like you do the legislature. Have a voting have
a ruling record like you do a voting record.

Speaker 1 (01:14:27):
Put the records out. That's understandable exactly. Do not get
into legal jargon, Do not do this or that. Just
say this is how I ruled in this case, this
is why.

Speaker 2 (01:14:36):
And they aggregate that information like our color.

Speaker 3 (01:14:38):
Josh.

Speaker 2 (01:14:39):
If the prosecutor's telling them that all these judges let
these drunk drivers without insurance smash into people's cars, they can't.
They don't have insurance, they can't pay. They don't give
them a fine, they don't give them any penalty. They
don't go to jail. And they give them forty hours
of community service and that's the norm. Those judges live
in neighborhoods. I don't think that would be palpable for anybody.

Speaker 1 (01:14:56):
Yeah, and the judge who allowed a guy to run
around after stealing eighteen cars.

Speaker 3 (01:15:00):
That's right. Yeah, that's another one.

Speaker 2 (01:15:01):
Just let's just get those just bottom line some of
this thing for the American voter. If you're gonna have it,
if you're gonna have a vote on judges in Utah
and you've involved the ballot and voters, you owe it
to the voters to give them information to make that decision.

Speaker 3 (01:15:15):
And there is none another.

Speaker 1 (01:15:16):
Talk about comment, Rodin Gregg, this is Richard from Sandy.
You kind of stole my thunder going into that last
break because there's no information available on these judges. When
it comes to retention votes, I always vote no. Yeah,
always vote no. I do too.

Speaker 3 (01:15:34):
There's got to be a vote.

Speaker 2 (01:15:35):
I know, you know, I've said this for like twenty years,
and so I think there's an a cumult of effect
where when people ask me, I said, I vote know
on all of them because we don't have enough information.
And I hope that when there is a batt one
out there. My vote will help contribute to them not
being retained. That the more we see these names on
the for the judiciary that we don't know anything about,
we should start voting no uniformly, because you've got to

(01:15:57):
give us a reason to say.

Speaker 3 (01:15:58):
Yes, and they don't give you one.

Speaker 2 (01:16:00):
They don't And it's it's a it's I mean, I
think Saddam Hussein's elections were tighter than these retention elections. Honestly,
I use it's just such a dam all.

Speaker 1 (01:16:08):
Right, more coming up. It is the Rod and Gregg
Show on talk radio one oh five nine k n
R S. All right, rolling right along, rolling right along.
The President Apparently ICE is now starting to move into Chicago.
You're looking at.

Speaker 2 (01:16:22):
It like really, yeah, really, I was unaware of this
when this happened today, I didn't see this.

Speaker 1 (01:16:32):
They're going to be moving into parts of Chicago and
doing what the President said they will do clean up Chicago. Now,
the National Guard has not been brought in yet, but
ICE is now starting to work in that area.

Speaker 2 (01:16:44):
Got confused, I did, And I mean, but I'll tell
you this. It has to have a federal nexus. So
I'm I'm good with the federal nexus of enforcing federal law.
And you don't get to talk bluster and act like
you don't come into our city or town. If it's
for federal law, you got to enforce the federal law.
So Ice going in there makes perfect sense.

Speaker 1 (01:17:00):
Now, would you agree? The President has been successful with DC.
Incredibly Yeah, incredibly successful. A lot of people are saying, well,
if he can do it in DC, do it in Chicago,
do it in New York, doing other major cities around
the country. Well, his jurisdiction is different there than it
is in d C. But a lot of people are
encouraging to do the same thing and make the streets
of their city safe. Our next guest has questions about that.

(01:17:24):
His name is Glenn Beaton, a columnist at the Aspen
beat Glenn, thank you very much for joining us. You say,
let Chicago just burn? What do you mean by that, Glenn?

Speaker 7 (01:17:33):
Yeah, I'm not so sure about Chicago, Baltimore, Philadelphia, Atland Shreeport.
You know that this goes on and on. Every big
city in America practically has real crime problems, and in
these big cities like Chicago, this is business as usual.
There's nothing out of the ordinary about this. This is
the way it's been going for years now. I'm glad

(01:17:55):
Trump went into d C. But DC is a special case,
is under the jurisdiction of the federal government. There's a
home rule legislation law there that gives limited home rule
to d C, but it is part of the federal system.
Chicago's not. These people, I think have the right to

(01:18:17):
say we don't want them. If they want to live
with their crime, if they want to deal with nightly muggings, rapes, murderers,
et cetera. I think that's kind of their business. And
you know, they make their bed, let them sleep in it.

Speaker 2 (01:18:32):
I couldn't agree with you more. I actually think that
so everything you said, amen. If you go back to
Los Angeles though that's not a federal district, but they
did bring in the military in the National Guard there.
But I would argue that that was two days at
least of rioting before he called them in, and they
were protecting federal facilities, be it the ice facilities or
the agents that were working to enforce federal law. If

(01:18:54):
there's a federal nexus, I can see where there is
a role. But I would think that you would want
to look at maybe those states that are republican, where
you have a Republican governor who wants to get deal
with the cartels or the or the issues that are
confronting their state that maybe local law enforcement and maybe
a liberal run city in a red state is not
really getting accomplished. Do you see a role for the

(01:19:16):
federal for President Trump or a federal role for for say,
immigration enforcement, Uh, in a in a blue city in
a red state.

Speaker 7 (01:19:25):
Uh, a blue city in a red state. I think
if he's called on by a red governor in a
red state, fine, that's different. You know, the red governor
ultimately has responsibility for a blue city. You know, that's
the way the system works. But the president doesn't have
responsibility for the states. In our system of federalism, you

(01:19:48):
know that the states are their own entities. It's not
like the state's answer to the federal government. That is
not our system. People typically assume that, you know, the
federal government is supreme, and there is such a thing
as the supremacy Cause Clause of the US Constitution, But
that doesn't mean that the federal's defense are the boss

(01:20:09):
of the states. That's that's not our system. Now, your
example of LA I think You're exactly right. The key
difference with LA is they were attacking federal facilities. They
were attacking immigration stations. And I think, yeah, if they
start attacking federal facilities in Chicago or jeez, for that matter,
Puerto Rico or France, I think the freds have a

(01:20:32):
responsibility and a right to go in and protect the
property of the United States. But that's not the that's
not the situation in Chicago. This is just business as
usual in Chicago. You know, there's the usual rapes, murders,
et cetera, et cetera. They live with it. They seem
okay with it.

Speaker 1 (01:20:50):
Well, okay, let them have at it.

Speaker 7 (01:20:53):
Maybe they'll kill I'll kill one another.

Speaker 1 (01:20:57):
Glenn, you make an interesting point. You know, we have
heard people in Chicago who say, bring in the National Guard.
We want safety here, we want safety. But you make
a very good point. They've chosen this, I mean, they've
chosen the elected leaders who are allowing this soft on
crime approach. So how do they defend this because they
chose to live this way. Apparently, Well, that's right.

Speaker 7 (01:21:17):
You know, if they want to live in a different situation,
if they want the law to be enforced there, if
they want the criminals to be put in jail then
elect different leaders, but they seem unwilling to do that. Now,
when I say they, of course I'm grouping them all
together and that's not exactly fair. But the great majority
of them fall into that category of they, So yes,

(01:21:39):
Well what about the ones who don't fall into that category?
Chicago is overwhelmingly Democrat, but that doesn't mean that every
single resident is a Democrat. I'm sure there's some Republicans there,
and I'm sure some Republicans would like to see the
law enforce. Well, my advice to those Republicans, as I
wrote my blog, is move out, get the heck out
of the phrace. Moved to Texas, moved to Florida, moved

(01:22:04):
to Galt's goals.

Speaker 1 (01:22:06):
Do you guys know what gals is? Yes?

Speaker 2 (01:22:09):
To your point, there was actually this morning, I've read
that Chicago Alderman actually broke ranks with the Democrat colleagues
and said, I actually think we need federal assistance here.
It's so out of out of control. But he's one
voice out of a out of a city government.

Speaker 3 (01:22:22):
Uh bit.

Speaker 2 (01:22:23):
But let me ask you this, I actually like the
President Trump, even I like the fact that he said
to the public, I think we need to get in there.
I think we need to deal with these murders that
are happening every day, because it almost trolled the governor
Pritzker and Chicago into defending lawlessness. You saw them say
this is no big deal. Hey, we kind of what
you're saying. But they were They're responsible, but they're going,

(01:22:45):
uh huh, we these these deaks. Do you know what
Ariot's in. We don't care. We don't care if this
is happening. I mean, this isn't the Trump can't come
in here. I think it is exposed the state of uh,
the state of Illinois and the city of Chicago for
pretty bad priorities. So that would that have been this
president strategy is to just kind of he knows they
hate everything he says, so he's going to say something

(01:23:06):
pretty intuitive and watch him, you know, hang themselves.

Speaker 7 (01:23:10):
Are you suggesting that President Trump patrolled the Democrats? You know,
I think I think there is an element of that.
He obviously enjoys doing it, and there's a political payoff
to it. And as you as you mentioned, he shines
the light on this stuff, make them defend the situation.

Speaker 1 (01:23:31):
Yes, have they done a very good job in defending Well,
they look terrible.

Speaker 3 (01:23:37):
They look terrible.

Speaker 7 (01:23:39):
And what's going to happen in d C. You know
you had Senator Schumer saying no effing way would he
go past thirty days on the National Guard presence in
d C. Well, you got murderers, car jackings, violent crime
way down. It's pretty hard to pull the rug out
from under the National Guard and see violent crime and

(01:24:00):
go back up after this.

Speaker 3 (01:24:02):
Right, that's right, lots to count for if they do.

Speaker 1 (01:24:05):
Thanks, And I think go ahead, Glenn. I was just
gonna say.

Speaker 7 (01:24:10):
That, you know, this sets a good example. There are
residents of Chicago who are actually paying attention and I'm
just going to vote the way their tribe tells them to.
And they're going to say, well, gee, it worked in
It worked in DC to uh up the law enforcement,
and maybe that could work here.

Speaker 20 (01:24:27):
Well, you know, duh, duh, Glenn being you know what's said, Greg,
they won't build out these city officials in Chicago, or
they've just elected another Democrat who's absolutely like them.

Speaker 3 (01:24:40):
Yeah, when they traded out mayors, they didn't trade up
at all.

Speaker 1 (01:24:43):
Yeah. I don't understand these major cities concerned about safety,
concerned about cost, and do nothing about it, and.

Speaker 2 (01:24:51):
And still continue to vote or to blame Republicans when
there hasn't been a Republican that's been elected to that
could make a decision there for fifty sixty years.

Speaker 3 (01:25:00):
Yeah, yeah, hey, come on.

Speaker 1 (01:25:01):
They're going to change it, all right. We've got a
final segment coming your way here on the Rod and
Greg Show and Talk Radio one oh five nine. Kayan ars,
I'm Citizen Hughes and I'm Rod Archett. One other note,
Greg on this tragedy in North Carolina. Who in their
right mind, Greg would contribute to a go Fundme site
to help support the guy who killed them?

Speaker 4 (01:25:22):
Not really?

Speaker 1 (01:25:23):
Yeah, oh yeah, how sickening. Yeah, they have actually taken
it down now. But there was a go Fundme site
set up for Carlos Brown Junior, he's the suspect in
the homicide. And after word of this came out and
people started contributing the GoFundMe, people went, uh, wait a

(01:25:43):
minute here, and they've taken it down. Well, why did
they set it up to begin with?

Speaker 2 (01:25:47):
Because it's the playbook of the left end. If you've
murdered a healthcare CEO that's a good thing. If if
if this person has murdered someone, well they're just suffering
from behavioral health and homelessness and they're a victim all
of I mean, it doesn't matter. I mean, the left
has an agenda and it doesn't matter how violent it
is to achieve that agenda. They support it. They support

(01:26:07):
it through financially or you name it. They're going to
support it through excuses, they're going to justify it, they're
going to fund it, you name it.

Speaker 3 (01:26:13):
They're good with it.

Speaker 1 (01:26:14):
Well, go fund These terms of service, according to the company,
explicitly prohibits fundraisers that raise money for the legal defense
of anyone formally charged with an alleged violent crime. Consistent
with this long standing policy, this fundraiser has been removed
from our website. But who on earth would set up
something like this, like you were saying, someone on the left,

(01:26:37):
and who would contribute to it?

Speaker 2 (01:26:39):
Yeah, they just think that they don't give a wit
about victims. They want they want they want the criminals
to be called the victims. It's why every time I
see ICE put out a you know, some degenerate criminal
that they've actually pulled off the streets, and that they're deporting.
I say, you know that that criminal is not oppressed,

(01:27:00):
and enforcing the law is not oppression. And I'm the
left would like you to believe otherwise.

Speaker 1 (01:27:05):
A fundraiser for the Zorutzka family, that is Irena Sir
Rubsko as the young woman who was killed, so far
as raised sixty thousand dollars more than that. Now this
was several hours old, but at leaves gofund me said
now we're taking this one down. Yes, as they should.
I can't believe this came from MSNBC. The President showed
up yesterday at the US Open. Yep, you know, and

(01:27:29):
there were reports. I think it was the Rolling Stone headline,
President Trump is booed repeatedly by the crowd at the
US Open. Now, so according to Stephanie Rule of all People, Yes,
she hosts Fan the President. She hosts this show on MSNBC.
She shared a social media post from Rolling Stone that
read US Open crowd booed Trump repeatedly. She said, I

(01:27:53):
was there, I didn't witness him getting booed, and the
delay was no big deal. The day was about great tennis.
A president was there too and seemed to have joined
the match.

Speaker 2 (01:28:03):
Good for her. You know, they're not good at self
correcting themselves. So I'm glad she actually was honest about
the fact that but you know it's actually true, because
that must have killed her to tell the truth.

Speaker 1 (01:28:13):
Yeah, you know, Now, you were in the legislature, I
think when this probably happened. Okay, all right, I think
you were. Were you there when they approved the money
to build a wildlife crossing?

Speaker 3 (01:28:26):
Yes, yes, I was.

Speaker 1 (01:28:28):
Were you there? And I'm very effective going up.

Speaker 3 (01:28:31):
To Yeah I in westbound yep, I was there for that.

Speaker 1 (01:28:36):
Yeah, well, good for you. Did you vote in favor
of it?

Speaker 2 (01:28:38):
I did. I thought you're setting me up there. I
thought I voted for something really bad.

Speaker 1 (01:28:42):
The Pure Research Study has come out with a report
saying to reduce wildlife vehicle collisions on road states need
dedicated funding, and they have a picture of the one
in Colorado, and apparently they say, let's see this stretch.
Ninety percent of the road collisions between a vehicle and
an animal ninety It's been reduced ninety percent since twenty sixteen. Yeah,

(01:29:06):
we still thinking from Colorado. Was this one of them?

Speaker 2 (01:29:09):
It was the Department of Natural Resources that brought the
project to us and it made perfect sense. They gave
us the numbers of the collisions between a motorists and
you know, the wildlife, and it's just it seemed like
it was the right thing to do and there was
good data behind it, so we did.

Speaker 1 (01:29:24):
Do They have cameras still up there where you can
watch it twenty four I thank you dot so you
can see a movie. You can see it.

Speaker 2 (01:29:30):
Let me tell you, somebody, you you go on their website.
You they've got cameras all. I mean, you can see
all the freeway of fifteen. If you're traveling and you
want to know a long time, if you want to
see if beaver, you know how that area is kind
of icy. You can see all the freeways and and
that that wildlife crossing as well.

Speaker 1 (01:29:47):
Very very effective.

Speaker 12 (01:29:47):
Yep.

Speaker 1 (01:29:48):
Great.

Speaker 2 (01:29:48):
Democrats will hate it. If it shows something they don't like,
they'll hate it.

Speaker 1 (01:29:51):
Well, they're probably unplugged. Yeah, yeah, if you showed anything
in the city, you know, Mendenhall would unplug it.

Speaker 3 (01:29:56):
She would.

Speaker 2 (01:29:57):
I mean, that's that guy that on exit has the
drone over Pioneer Park, so he shows you all the
drug dealing and all the drug users.

Speaker 1 (01:30:05):
And they hate that Channel two is doing a story
tonight on the no King's murder. Good and it will
be interesting to see what they they come up with.
Nothing's been done on that as no.

Speaker 3 (01:30:15):
I mean, where's the accountability on that?

Speaker 1 (01:30:16):
Pretty interesting? All right? That does it for us tonight,
Head up, shoulders back. May God bless you and your
family and that great country of ours. Thanks for listening.
We'll be back tomorrow at four. Talk to you then,

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