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January 28, 2025 78 mins
The Rod and Greg Show Daily Rundown – Tuesday, January 28, 2025

4:20 pm: Senator Mike Lee joins Rod and Greg for his weekly visit about what’s happening in Washington, D.C., and today they’ll discuss his impressions of Trump’s first week in the White House, and his support of RFK Jr. to lead the Department of Health and Human Services.

4:38 pm: Tristan Justice, Western Correspondent for The Federalist, joins the show to discuss his piece about how many Senators set to question Robert F. Kennedy, Jr. about his nomination to run the Department of Health and Human Services have pocked millions in donations from Big Pharma.

6:05 pm: Representative Karianne Lisonbee joins the program for a conversation about her bill which would remove Utah from the Electronic Registration Information Center and ensures efforts by the state to keep its voter rolls accurate.

6:38 pm: Senator Jordan Teuscher joins Rod and Greg to discuss a controversial bill he is sponsoring that would eliminate collective bargaining for public sector employees, including firefighters, police officers and teachers.
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Speaker 1 (00:00):
We're got some guy good lawmakers joining us on the
program later in the program today as.

Speaker 2 (00:04):
Well, including people like Mike Lee not a bad guy.

Speaker 3 (00:07):
That's a bit of an A list, I say it's a.

Speaker 2 (00:10):
Bit of an A list. Well, RFK Junior Ooh, hearings tomorrow,
I have them on. I don't have him on what
we've had him on before. We have Yeah, we've had
him on before when he was trying to get Yeah,
he was trying to get on the ballot here in
the state of Utah. He's got big hearings coming up tomorrow.
We'll talk about those hearings. Also a little bit later
on a couple of state lawmakers will join us. And

(00:30):
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Speaker 3 (01:29):
So yeah, it'll be good.

Speaker 2 (01:30):
Yeah, a lot going on today, Greg. I'm not sure
if I believe this or not, but at least the
Trump administration came out late this afternoon, Greg with an
explanation about the New Jersey drones. Finally, Yeah, but do
you believe it?

Speaker 1 (01:48):
Well, it's a it's a bit of a vague description,
so there's still a ton of scenarios that could have
taken place as to why these drones were flying around everywhere.
It could have been in response to something else. But yeah,
I mean at least, this is some information that I
have no idea why the Biden administration wouldn't have just
fessed up and said in the first place.

Speaker 2 (02:07):
Yeah, well, here's what they're saying. The mysterious drones spotted
member in northern New Jersey late last year. Apparently the
administration says today they were authorized by the Federal Aviation
Administration the FAA, and were not dispatched by any foreign
enemy in the US. The White House confirmed that today.
So they said they had a lot of these FAA

(02:27):
drones up there looking at things. They were authorized by
the FAA, but there were others up there, maybe lobby
you know, hobbyists who just kind of wanted to see
what was going on. I mean, it's kind of I
don't know if I believe this story.

Speaker 1 (02:39):
I think it's carefully worded. I think it's I think
that they might be telling you the second half of
the story. There may have been drones foreign born or
whatever it was. Whatever it was, but certainly maybe the
response to that was the Biden administration authorizing other drones
to also surveil or keep the area from being assessed

(03:00):
or surveilled by the other drones. I think there is
more to that story, but at least, I mean up
until today, we didn't know that the federal government was
even aware.

Speaker 2 (03:10):
That's true, there were there.

Speaker 1 (03:11):
I think one of the statements during that time was,
we're not seeing anything that's out of the ordinary, y
nothing out the newspeople with the cameras point up in
the sky showing these like the size of a VW
bug up.

Speaker 2 (03:22):
There humming around. Yeah, well it was obvious. I'm not
sure if I believe this story, but at least we
have some kind of explanation as to what went on.
Don't know if it's true or not. Now a couple
of breaking stories. I'd just mentioned him in our newscast
a moment ago. If you know Donald Trump is doing
you know, he's fulfilling another campaign promise, Greg And what
did he say when he ran he was going to

(03:44):
shrink the size of the federal government. So you know,
today he announced that they were going to put a freeze,
a temporary freeze on federal aid programs of various grands,
various you know, money going to all kinds of organizations,
because does he want to do have his offensive management
and budget basically the HR Department to go in and

(04:06):
look and see if the money is being spent properly. Yes, yeah,
it makes sense. I mean, if you're a business owner,
don't you do that all the time.

Speaker 3 (04:13):
Yes.

Speaker 2 (04:14):
And Donald Trump is a transactional guy. He believes in
checking things out. That's what he does. And now a
federal judge that said you can't do that, judge the
stay out of it. That's what any Yeah. Well, I mean,
why are they getting into this for crying now loud? Yeah,
And look, I think that there's there. I think what
they're trying to find are the NGOs and in these

(04:35):
foreign government money that's going to foreign governments, there's some
very large contracts that they tried to say and look,
I've even there is actually an example I'm aware of
here in Utah where a smaller organization that that does
receive federal grants were impacted by this freeze. But if
you listen to the Trump administration and explain it, this
is a larger pause, not a discontinuation, but a pause

(04:58):
to understand where the dollars are going, they're being used,
and if they're if they're adhering. This is the most
important part. He's written a lot of he's signed a
lot of executive orders. Are the recipients of those federal
grants adhering to the new executive orders? What's your brand new?
And you need time to step it up, but you
can't ignore them. And maybe the pausing of the funds
will help sober everyone up and they'll they'll be adhering

(05:21):
to the executive orders. And in the issue here, Greg,
it was temporary. Yes, this is a permanent They wanted
to get in. They wanted to look at where the
money is going, see if they're following what the administration
wants to do. And and I would imagine it wouldn't
be very long before the before the funding continued. But
you have an example here in the state of Utah,
an organization that couldn't do anything then.

Speaker 3 (05:42):
And they should just stopped working.

Speaker 1 (05:44):
They didn't really have any context to it, so it
was they weren't sure. But I mean, you know, we
just I just you can read from the administration's report
that it's a pause. They want to make sure everyone's
doing with this most silent. I think that it's it's
within the executive branch branches pview to do that.

Speaker 3 (06:01):
Yeah, and a judge just said no.

Speaker 2 (06:03):
So you see you know, this very trumpy. And I
think because let's say Trump buys a business, what does
he do in the first thing? He goes in and
looks at the structure of the business, where the money
is going. You know, Well, we already know.

Speaker 1 (06:15):
There was a lot of commentary about how the deep
state was going to circumvent and block anything that Trump
tried to do. Yes, so I don't know any better
way to try and not be circumvented. And then to say,
we're going to put a pause here, get everyone's full attention,
and make sure that everything that we're moving forward to
do everybody's doing. Yeah, And I think that's again that's

(06:37):
within the purview of the executive branch in the present.

Speaker 2 (06:39):
Another move the White House is making under Donald Trump.
This broke this afternoon as well. Abby mentioned this as
well a moment ago. The White House issuing a memo
this afternoon to pay federal workers who don't want to
return to the office through September thirtieth. He's basically offering
buyouts to all federal workers. Greg, what do you make
of that? I think it's a great idea.

Speaker 1 (06:59):
I think it's end up you know, instead of you know,
you you you don't want people to be Look, I
just think it's good if you don't want to be
their leave. Yeah, okay, we'll give you six months of
a runway to go find a different job. But they're
getting paid really well. They need to just go. And
I think he's giving him, he's incentivizing him to be
there instead of again staying back and you know, maybe

(07:20):
causing trouble or trying to again circumvent. Yeah, what they're
trying to accomplish in the time because they have a
limited amount of time. They got to get to work.
And this guy, I think he quit. I think he
left the White House the West Wing last night at
nine pm.

Speaker 2 (07:32):
Yeah, yeah, it was at nine o'clock last night.

Speaker 1 (07:34):
Long work days, Yeah, he's gonna work. He'll work longer
in this first two weeks and not with the old
Joe did for I don't know how many months.

Speaker 2 (07:42):
Yeah, yeah, but he basically saying, look, if you want
to quit, come back to the office on February sixth,
let us know your intentions and we'll do a buyout
for you.

Speaker 1 (07:50):
Yeah.

Speaker 4 (07:50):
Yep.

Speaker 2 (07:51):
Not wrong with that, is there.

Speaker 3 (07:52):
I think it's like I said, I think it's stand
up now.

Speaker 2 (07:54):
There could be a lot of people will do that.
So the President is moving quickly on a number of
his campaign promises, and of course we'll be tracking that now.
When we come back on the Rotting Greg Show, Utah
Senator Mike Lee will join us for a weekly conversation
with the Utah Senator that's coming up a little bit
later on sometime today. A chance for you to win
two tickets to Jason Aldan coming to Utah on July

(08:16):
twenty six. So a lot coming up, all right, Utah
Senator Mike Lee is now joining us on our newsmaker
line to talk about what's going on in Washington. Always
great to chat with the Utah Senator, Mike. Thanks for
joining us. It's been one week since Donald Trump became
President of the United States for a second time. What's
your assessment of his first week, Mike, Well, look.

Speaker 5 (08:34):
You promised to begin the Golden Age of America, and
he's off to a great start on that. He's doing
everything he can to restrain federal spending to make sure
that the American people aren't being asked to keep paying
for things that are weaponized against them. He's doing everything
he can to bring this government back out of the

(08:57):
control of the democratic processes that led to his election
as president for thirty six crillion dollars in debt, largely
because of wasteful spending in Washington on things people don't
walk and can't afford, at best, and at worst, on
things that are immediately used as tools against the American people.
Bidy was throwing cash out the car window as he
left the White House, and cousin Trump's right to call

(09:18):
for a temporary pause in this stuff. It's about time
somebody do that.

Speaker 2 (09:22):
Was your car? Was your car trailing the Biden of
vehicle Mike trying to get some of that cash.

Speaker 6 (09:29):
Yeah.

Speaker 5 (09:29):
Yeah, it was scooped up so quickly by ngngos and
foreign comperments and other things. You know, there was nothing left.

Speaker 2 (09:36):
Okay, So that's that.

Speaker 4 (09:38):
That is a good question.

Speaker 1 (09:39):
So I've I've got word that that that his pause
on loans and funding and grants is in effect here
in Utah. Someone that some association that does get or
some effort to get federal grants texted me because it's
the page is blank, they're not able to do it

(10:00):
and ask me for my, you know, amateur opinion what
to do. And I just said, well, you better find
your liaison or find out who's working with who's secure
your federal grants. And I hope you don't have a
DEI office in there or else you're you're in trouble.

Speaker 4 (10:13):
So anyway they all getting aside.

Speaker 1 (10:15):
I think that's working, and I think it's a way
that the President is trying to prevent the swamp from
undermining him.

Speaker 4 (10:21):
How do you see that rolling out?

Speaker 1 (10:23):
If that is, if that's being implemented quickly, that's spending
in grants or suspended, how does that unwind or how
does that get back in line for people.

Speaker 4 (10:33):
You know, so that things move forward.

Speaker 5 (10:36):
Well, first of all, it is, as you point out, Greg,
a temporary review hold. He's going through it to make
sure that it's going to the right place in time.
I do think that it's important to get our country
tonally back on track. In part by getting away, we
spend money back where it's supposed to be now. The

(10:59):
Impowment Control Act at nineteen seventy four is a law
that undermines the colstitutional authority that the president has under
Article two to exercise fiscal restraint by declining to spend
appropriated funds. In other words, prior to the Empowerment Control Act.
The understanding was the president was authorized to spend up
to a certain amount, but not obligated to fund.

Speaker 6 (11:20):
All of that.

Speaker 5 (11:22):
But in the decades that have passed since the Empowerment
Control Act, we've seen spending moved to an out of
control position, contributing meaningfully to our thirty six trillion dollar
death And I think it's time to repeal that. And
that's why I've introduced legislation to repeal it, to make
it easier for presidents to view these things as maximum

(11:43):
rather than minimum spending levels enacted together, and I think
that's how we need to go. One of the things
that a president is expected to do is to wield
the executive power. The very first line of Article two
of the Constitution, which sets out the executive branch, makes
clear that all executive powers in the Constitution are vested
in the President of the United States. That is his job,

(12:05):
and part of being an executive is figuring out where
to spend up to the maximum and where not to.

Speaker 2 (12:11):
Senator Donald Trump has designated that the cartels along the
Mexican border are terrorist organizations. And I heard you on
with Glenn Beck earlier today. Here on this station you
were talking about, there is a way for the United
States to attack those cartels if need be. Can you
explain how that would work and could it be done?

Speaker 5 (12:31):
Yeah, I mean there are multiple ways of doing it.
In theory, military strikes could be possible. Now that's an
active war. An active war absent very unusual circumstances. Responding
to an actual or imminent attack would need to require
a decoration of war or authorization for the use of
military force from Congress. But short of that, there are

(12:53):
other things that can be done. For example, Congress could,
as I've explained, issue letters of market and reprisal. Letters
of market reprisal are means by which Congress has the
ability to authorize private citizens or entities known as privateers
to go out and engage in an acts that would

(13:13):
otherwise be considered piracy illegal piracy, and allow people to
go out and take from those entities designate matter of
market reprisal bring back any personal property that they can obtain,
and by that I mean principally things like cash, gold,
valuable eiment, and other non contraband things that would be

(13:35):
lawful for sale of the United States than the assets
are liquidated and an entity called the Prize Court, set
up by Congress as part of the letter of Marketing Reprisal,
would allocate up to half of the proceeds from the
loot and the sale of the loot to go back
to the privateers. It's a way of empowering and incentivizing

(13:56):
private actors to go in and undermine entities that are
acting against the interests of the United States of America
here the drug cartels.

Speaker 4 (14:05):
Senator, I want to talk just a thing about RFK Junior.

Speaker 1 (14:09):
There's some talk you saw former Vice President penns he's
all in on trying to stop that nomination from occurring,
or not the nomination, but the confirmation from occurring. I
like what RFK Junior is saying. I don't know that
I subscribe to every word he's ever said or position
he's ever held, but I do think there's something wrong
with our food supply. I think he's drilling down some

(14:30):
issues that to me, it looks like a big food
or pharma. Big Pharma doesn't like the messages he's saying,
which is always a good tell for me personally.

Speaker 4 (14:40):
Where are you with r.

Speaker 1 (14:41):
F K Junior and where do you see his confirmation
prospects right now.

Speaker 5 (14:47):
I wholeheartedly support the nomination of some Robert Kennedy Junior.
And you know he's going to appear for the first
time in front of the Senate Committee on Finance tomorrow,
and you'll next head to the Senate Committee on Health, Education, Labor,
and Pensions known as the Health Committee's scheduled to question
Kennedy on Thursday.

Speaker 3 (15:06):
Look, the.

Speaker 5 (15:08):
Effort against Robert F. Kennedy Junior is one that is
itself resistant to change in Washington, resistant to draining the swamp.
I think we need to get him confirmed, and we
need to stop these folks from making our kids sick,
stop the things that are working against the health of Americans,

(15:33):
and get it bothd around. And I think he's got
a healthy degree of skepticism that will be refreshing, is
badly needed in the US Department of Health and Human Services.
So I think we need to confirm our k immediately,
no excuses. We just need to get this done.

Speaker 2 (15:48):
How tough of a confirmation process is it's going to
be for him, do you think, sender Lee?

Speaker 5 (15:53):
Well, look with RFK, with Cash Tottel, with Tulsea Gabbard,
maybe a full of others we have to assume that
we'll need to carry these across the finish line with
Republican only votes. Will be grateful for any Democrat votes
that we can pick up along the way. But we
have to assume that we've got to carry this one alone,

(16:14):
just as we did with Pete Head Jeff. But it's
stying to me that Democrats wouldn't be inclined to go
along with this. Remember, we've had Republicans, a lot of
Republicans who helps confirm a number of Joe Biden's nominees,
and sometimes the same people who voted consistently with Democrats

(16:36):
to help support and confirm Democratic nominees might be some
of the same people who might be considering a no
vote on these ones. And I hope they will reconsider
is we've got to at least have Republicans on board,
at least fifty of us. If we lose more than
three and pick up any Democrats, then there's no tie
for Jadie Vance to break in the Senate. As his

(16:58):
prerogatives as Vice President, Jade Vance doesn't get the boat
at all unless there is a tie. And so if
we if we hold fewer than fifty voats, then.

Speaker 2 (17:07):
It won't work, you're tell Sender Mike Lee. Mike Sender Lee,
thank you for joining us on our newsmaker line. I
like going out. We're going to have more coming up.
Greg on the uh RFK Junior hearings tomorrow and again
on Thursday. He's going to get a grilling and I
hope he's ready for it because they're going to come
after him.

Speaker 1 (17:24):
Well, you know, I look, I love RFK Junior. Queen
Bee really really appreciated a lot of the stuff he's
talking about the health, But his voice, I mean, I
don't know how long they're going to be able to
interview because that voice is so strange. It just it
makes me uncomfortable, it does. I mean, it's just it's hard.

Speaker 2 (17:39):
You feel sorry for him, like strange if.

Speaker 1 (17:41):
You just close your eyes. It's been gruffed. The crime
dog really trying to work things out on the HHS
and I just don't know how long I could listen
to that without just getting so uncarved. Can you provide
your inswers in writing, sir? I could I just read
what you have to say.

Speaker 7 (17:55):
I don't know.

Speaker 3 (17:56):
I like him, but the voice, man, it can get
on you a little bit.

Speaker 2 (17:59):
Coming up. All right, are coming up. We'll talk more
about the RFK JR hearings tomorrow. That's next right here
on the Rotten Gregg Show. Well, some very important hearings
coming up today and tomorrow. RFK Junior, who is the
President's nominee to add up Health and Human Services, goes
before a couple of panels and it's going to be
interesting to watch, Greg.

Speaker 3 (18:17):
It is there.

Speaker 1 (18:18):
This is one where you're seeing Pence, former Vice President
Mike Pence, and a lot of other people starting to
air or starting to voice opposition, organized opposition. But if
you follow the money trail, I don't know if I
like the entities that are The nities that are opposing
r f K Junior are ones that I'm not all

(18:38):
that keen about lately.

Speaker 2 (18:42):
Joe joining us right now to talk more about that
he's been digging into it is Tristan Justice. Tristan is
a Western correspondent of the Federalist Tristan. How much of
a grilling is RFK Junior going to get tomorrow?

Speaker 8 (18:56):
Well, he's going up.

Speaker 9 (18:57):
Against the hostile audience. Senator have riaked in more than
ten million from the first pharmaceutical industry alone across the
two panels that are going to be questioning him over
the next two days, and that it's not even including
the millions of dollars they've taken from the dairy industry,
the farm industry, the fuit industry. And so what you
have is essentially a wrecking ball in the form of

(19:18):
a cabinet member getting ready to take over the country's
most powerful regulatory agency for the drug industry, going up
against wallmakers who have been funded by the pharmaceutical industry
for decades. So he's going against a hostile audience, and
so he should expect a hostile hearing.

Speaker 1 (19:35):
So big farm, big pharma, and big foods. That is
about as crony capitalists as it gets in my mind.
I've seen former Vice President Pence pop up. He's very
proud of his opposition to the RFK confirmation. He's very public.
Is he on working on behalf of an organization or
did he is? His conscience just got the best of

(19:55):
him and he's just out there leading with his chin.

Speaker 10 (20:00):
Right.

Speaker 9 (20:00):
So, Mike Pence's group Advancing Americans Freedom is the one
pro life group that is actively opposing Kennedy's nomination because
last year he was a pro abortion democrat running a
presidential campaign, and so that group's opposition is based on
Kennedy's past views on abortion, which have since been amended
to be more in line with Trump's, which is it
should be illegal, but with restrictions and so. But Mike

(20:24):
Pence's group is obviously opposing Kennedy's candidate nomination. They're funding
ads against the nomination. But it's interesting to look at
who's funding the Mike Pence group. It's interesting that Mikes
group has taken one hundred thousand dollars from the pharmaceutical industry,
from the family that is behind the abortion pill, so

(20:45):
excuse me, the contraceptive pills. And so you have these
conflicts of interests that are playing out across both sides
of the political aisle, and that's including Republicans. With Mike
Pence's opposition, and how.

Speaker 2 (21:00):
Far out is RFK Junior on a lot of these
very controversial issues, how far out is he?

Speaker 4 (21:07):
Look?

Speaker 9 (21:07):
I think any politician who's been active for decades at
a time is going to have statements in the past
that they might not necessarily believe in today.

Speaker 5 (21:17):
Robert F.

Speaker 9 (21:18):
Kennedy is no exception to that, And so I think
What you have here, though, is you have these senators
who are amplifying this biased against Kennedy, trying to pay
him as some type of conspiratorial kook who doesn't belong
in any presidential administration.

Speaker 11 (21:34):
But I think you.

Speaker 9 (21:36):
Have an environmental lawyer who's frankly very politically astute, who
knows where the issues are within the government, understands this
is a lunch in generation opportunity to finally eliminate the
revolving towards of influence at the nation's top regulatory agencies.

Speaker 1 (21:51):
So RFK Junior I would have thought, or I would
have hoped that because he's been a Democrat his whole life,
and a he is bringing up some issues. We do
have kids that are sick, we do have things going
on and are something's wrong at the rate of autism,
the the you know, the allergies, everything that's happening. For
someone to point this out and they even want to

(22:12):
understand it better, it should have a I would think
it resonates without regard to party. Is there are there
any Democrats that would that are senators that you think
would vote for for an Rfk's nomination, or do you
think that this was going to go strictly by a
partisan Republican senator vote.

Speaker 3 (22:32):
If he's confirmed, I think I.

Speaker 9 (22:34):
Think you might actually see some Democrats come out and
support Kennedy in the end. I mean, this is one
of Donald Trump's two bipartisan picks, right, uh, Grobert Kennedy
Junior and Tulci Gabbard. And so Tulcy Gabbard's nomination is
proving more polarizing. She's running up against the deep state,
trying to keep her from presiding over the deep state,
and so you're having a whole host of anonymous allegations

(22:54):
being put out there. But when it comes to Kennedy
regedatorying the partners regulating pharmaceutical industry, well, this is the
by part of an issue, and it always kind of happen.
I mean, Big Pharma has kind of become the villain
of both parties. That's not really a partisan thing. And
so Kennedy's campaign and the Trump transition team has been
pretty optimistic, pretty pollish over the past three months that

(23:15):
Kennedy is going to get some Democrats support. So I
don't think it would be too surprising, especially since Kennedy
is He's It's interesting because he's such a polarizing figure
among people, they have strong opinions about him. Republicans tend
to have more favorable opinion of him the Democrats, for sure,
But when you look at the pulling of how Americans

(23:37):
feel about his platform, it's overwhelming bipartisan support on a
whole host of different issues that ken Be is.

Speaker 2 (23:43):
Advocating for Tristan. How unusual is it that Rfk's entire
family appears has come out against him and being nominated.
Even Caroline Kennedy today put out a statement opposing his nomination.
How unusual is that for the Kennedy family, which is
still considered by many kind of America's royalty when it
comes to politics, that she would even come out and

(24:05):
express her opposition to his nomination.

Speaker 8 (24:10):
Billy, He's also got.

Speaker 9 (24:10):
Family members who supported his presidential campaign, who worked on
his presidential campaign, and very favorable of his confirmation. I
think anyone who comes from a large family, people are
going to have opinions, especially a family as politically active
as the Kennedy family. But I do think there should
be I don't know. My own personal view on this

(24:31):
is that if your family, if you have a family
member doing something that you disagree, and you keep your
reservations private. I don't think it's appropriate to come out
and condemn family members who are in the public light
for doing something you disagree with. It's counterproductive. I think
people get hurt in the end, and I think people

(24:51):
should just keep their criticisms to themselves.

Speaker 3 (24:54):
I don't want to jinx anything.

Speaker 1 (24:56):
I hate looking past the vote for confirmation, but just
imagining for a second he were to be successful. Some
of the things he said is just looking into investigating,
understanding better some of the vaccines. I mean the numbers
of vaccinate. The vaccines are up in this fifty sixty
seventies that they say that newborn children get. I got
three when I was born. So he's not saying we're

(25:19):
going to ban all this, but we want to look
into this. He has some interesting approaches. What do you
think the Health and Human Services would look like under
the leadership of RFK, even in the first maybe year
that he gets on the job, if he were to
get this nomination.

Speaker 9 (25:34):
Well, I think first you're going to have a lot
of revelations come out about how corrupt the AHHS was
throughout the COVID pandemic. I think you're going to see
internal documents be exposed and brought to public light. I
think you're going to see a lot of the nefarious
conduct that went on throughout the COVID lockdowns really come
to light, and the censorship. I think that's number one.

Speaker 6 (25:57):
Number two.

Speaker 9 (25:58):
I think Kennedy can do a lot of things to
implement responsible regulations on a whole host of issues, make vaccines,
increased transparency in some of these different issues. But I
think one of the challenges facing Kennedy in this kind
of crucipaid to make America healthy again is that half
the things he talks about have nothing to do with AHHS.

(26:19):
They have to do with the US Department of Agriculture.
So when he talks about the performing the food supply,
not really under his jurisdiction if he were.

Speaker 7 (26:27):
To be confirmed.

Speaker 9 (26:28):
So you might think the people who have been appointed
to roles of the Department of our Culture haven't necessarily
been the picks that Kennedy's team would have liked. They've
been pretty explicit about that. Last week, the chiefest staff
or the Department of Agriculture announced came from the seed
oil industry. The Secretary of Agriculture, Kennedy's team had lobbied

(26:53):
for Thomas Massey from Kentucky. Not necessarily Brooke Rollins not
going to say that the Department of Agriculture is a
lost cast and that they're not going to do anything
that Kennedy has recommended. But the two agencies might not
be as aligned in this mission to make America healthy
again as Kennedy's team might have hoped.

Speaker 2 (27:13):
Tristan Justice from the Federalist talking about what's going on
with the Kenny hearings tomorrow is going to be interesting.

Speaker 1 (27:18):
I just want them to bust all the people during COVID.
We're bad actors and told us lies. And I want
three vaccines like I got, not the fifty million anymore.
That's just the bar right there. That's all I need.

Speaker 6 (27:28):
Amen to that.

Speaker 2 (27:29):
Those hearings tomorrow and again on Thursday. Now you're a
little upset today because Peter is stirring things up again?

Speaker 3 (27:36):
Aren't they let me tell you something that's treatment of animalty?

Speaker 1 (27:39):
To stay out of the girl man's business, Nay, leave
pr Punksatani Phil alone. Punksatani, Pennsylvania is near my hometown
where I grew up. I have waited since my earliest
memory with baited breath. Okay, stress, what punks atani Phil
is going to say is he going to see a
shadow and I'm going to be stuck with six more
weeks of freezing old weather or no shadow and spring

(28:02):
is high tailing it on its way. According to Peter,
they want to do a vegan weather reveal cake. They
can hit the road with their reveal cake. That's if
you care about it any if you care anything about
climate change. Oh yeah, get Phil out of the equation.
If this groundhog does not get to see or not
see his shadow on Groundhog Day, we're either going to
get all winter all year long or all spring. Either way,

(28:25):
it's not good. I am outraged that they are interrupting
this tried and true and important tradition of groundhog Day.

Speaker 2 (28:31):
Well what do they do to poor Phil? Don't they
just pick them up and hold them up to the ground.
Is that cruel animals?

Speaker 3 (28:36):
Not cruel at all?

Speaker 2 (28:37):
This is the most thing they're doing.

Speaker 1 (28:38):
This groundhog has the greatest life, and this groundhog is
living his best life. Punks, Tony Phil's living his best life.
Everybody comes to we've had to get this. I don't
know if Pete checked, but you Democrat Governor Shapiro was
at the last. But you know, Groundhog Day to see
if punks Toney feel is going to see his shadow
or not. It's a very very important holiday.

Speaker 2 (28:57):
There was movie made about this, Bill Murray there the
movie made about round hog Day.

Speaker 3 (29:03):
Yep, and he is from what he is?

Speaker 1 (29:05):
Bill Murray plays a local weather they're from a Pittsburgh and.

Speaker 2 (29:09):
Sent out there to cover it.

Speaker 1 (29:10):
Absolutely all right, stay away from punksin Tony Phil, get
out of our business.

Speaker 2 (29:15):
More to come on The Rodding Gregg Show. Our number
two is on its way. Stay with us. The first
White House briefing today since Donald Trump took over as
President of the United States a week ago. Yesterday, Caroline
Levitt appeared on the podium and answered a lot of questions.

(29:36):
I think she did an absolutely fantastic job. We're going
to be talking about that and let you hear some
of the things she had to say. We do not
want to forget you right now. If he haven't done
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Just go to at Rodding Gregg Show. Follow us because
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(30:19):
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Speaker 3 (30:20):
On item too.

Speaker 1 (30:21):
The tickets, we had a lot of great response yesterday
and some funny responses too.

Speaker 3 (30:26):
We love creativity.

Speaker 2 (30:27):
Well they were creative yesterday. All right. Caroline Levitt, who
is the new press secretary for Donald Trump, took to
the podium for the first time today since the president
was inaugurated a week ago yesterday, and on social media,
conservatives are just praising the daylights out of her. She

(30:48):
just thinks she did a fantastic job. I agree. I
think she did well.

Speaker 1 (30:52):
So she was slow to start because Trump was handling
all the press interactions himself for a good five seven days.
So this is our first ought at it. And I
don't know if this is what we have coming from
now on, but what a glorious press briefing this was
I mean, there's so many clips, I don't know which
ones to play.

Speaker 2 (31:08):
You know, what I thought was greag greg Remember when
Jean Pierre used to do she had she had a
binder about this, thick yeah, you know, and all she
wing most of it had comments. Yeah, yeah, yeah. But
she knows Donald Trump as well as anybody knows where
he stands on the issue, and that was clearly evident
during this White House briefing today.

Speaker 1 (31:30):
So I'm going to tell you right now that what
you're going to hear in this, I think this is
setting a tone. I think this this first meeting was
very important. They they the seat arrangements, who they gave
credentials to. They gave a lot of thought to this,
and I think she's she's drawing some bright lines here.

Speaker 3 (31:47):
Let's have a listen.

Speaker 1 (31:48):
This is about work ethic in terms of how much
this president has been working, maybe compared to the last president.

Speaker 12 (32:00):
And Trump has always been the hardest working man in politics.
I think that's been proven over the past week. This
president has again signed more than three hundred executive orders.

Speaker 13 (32:09):
He's taken historic action.

Speaker 12 (32:11):
I gaggle the board Air Force one to mark the
first one hundred days of this administration four pm last Friday,
our first hundred hours. Rather, and this president did more
in the first hundred hours than the previous president did
in the first one hundred days. So, President Trump, I
think you can all expect for him to continue to
work at this breakneck speed.

Speaker 13 (32:30):
So I hope you're all ready to work very hard.
I know that we are.

Speaker 1 (32:34):
So there's that one. Here's another one. I like this
one too. This is well, this is let's just let
her say in our own words here it is doing.

Speaker 12 (32:43):
It's correcting the lies and the wrongs of the past
four years, the lies that have been told to your
faces in this very briefing room.

Speaker 13 (32:50):
I will not do that. But since you brought up
truth seek.

Speaker 12 (32:53):
I would like to point out, while I vow to
provide the truth from this podium, we ask that all
of you in this room yourself to that same standard.
We know for a fact there have been lies that
have been pushed by many legacy media outlets in this
country about this president, about his family. Uh, and we
will not accept that. We will call you out when

(33:13):
we feel that your reporting is wrong or there is
misinformation about this White House. So yes, I will hold
myself to the truth, and I expect everyone in this
room to do the same.

Speaker 3 (33:26):
We all to do the same. This one right here,
I love that.

Speaker 2 (33:29):
And one of the chief abusers of all of that,
Jim Acosta, who oh, by the way, today decided to
leave CNN.

Speaker 3 (33:36):
Well, he didn't like that shift.

Speaker 1 (33:40):
You know that that graveyard shift wasn't sitting well with
the egomaniac. So here they want to say, now, you know,
egg costs so much because Trump. We used to be
fine and then all of a sudden, Trump Cotton office
and there's an egg cost problem. Let's see what Caroline
Levitt has to say about this.

Speaker 12 (33:57):
There's a lot of reporting out there that is putting
the onus on this White House for the increased cost
of eggs. I would like to point out to each
and every one of you that in twenty twenty four,
when Joe Biden was in the Oval office or upstairs
in the residents sleeping, I'm not so sure egg prices
increased sixty five percent. In this country. We also have

(34:18):
seen the cost of everything, not just eggs, bacon, groceries, gasoline,
have increased because of the inflationary policies of the last administration.
As far as the egg shortage, what's also contributing to
that is that the Biden administration in the Department of
Agriculture directed the mass killing of more than one hundred
million chickens.

Speaker 3 (34:37):
Well, that's true mass killing?

Speaker 4 (34:39):
Was it?

Speaker 3 (34:39):
Were they Republican chickens?

Speaker 2 (34:40):
Wow?

Speaker 1 (34:41):
One hundred million chickens were executed. That's just didn't you
where's Peta? I want Peter to worry about Biden Joe's
chickens and messing with punks a Tony phil that is
that is just an outrage to me.

Speaker 2 (34:52):
Well, what has amaze me? Greg? Since Donald Trump became
president for the second time, the media said, well, why
am you a fix the economy yet? Come on? You
said you're going to fix the economy. Why am you
fix the economy yet? Come on? You said? Do they
not understand that you don't fix stuff like this over? Oh,
they understand completely. But that's what I love is, Oh,
tariff's inflation. Uh, chicken, the price of eggs, Oh, it

(35:15):
costs so much. They didn't give a wit.

Speaker 1 (35:17):
In fact, if you ever complained about any of the
rising costs, First it was transitory inflation, then it was
money dysmorphia. You just don't know how good you have it.
You don't know how good you This economy has never
been better. If you're complaining about anything you don't understand,
you're just ignorant. That's what that was their that's the
media's message to all this and now. But seven days

(35:38):
into this man's presidency.

Speaker 2 (35:39):
And why am you fixed it?

Speaker 3 (35:40):
Why? Why?

Speaker 2 (35:41):
Why is anything expensive fixed? What have you done yet
during the campaign? Did you ever hear Kamala talk about
the price of eggs?

Speaker 4 (35:48):
Now?

Speaker 1 (35:50):
They tell you they tried to pivot to it late
in the game, but it.

Speaker 2 (35:53):
Was too too late, too late. Again, I thought Caroline
Levitt did a fantastic job today. I'll watched a good
poor of it today. She was confident, she didn't need
a big, thick playbook tip with all the questions there,
and she did you know the bite you played previously?
Challenge the press, you report truthfully, and I'll speak truth
to you, and if you don't, we are going to

(36:15):
call you out.

Speaker 8 (36:15):
Now.

Speaker 2 (36:16):
Let me tell you what. Being a reporter for a
number of years, reporters hate to get phone calls telling
them that their story is wrong. Yeah, it really bothers.

Speaker 1 (36:23):
You're from a different area, I think that they don't
have any problem having a wrong story today.

Speaker 3 (36:28):
I really don't.

Speaker 2 (36:28):
It used to bother you when you'd get a call
from somebody and say, hey, you got that wrong, and
you will. You'd argue back and forth, but you know,
call out reporters when they make mistakes. Do it here.
I mean, I can tell you I've been in two
newsrooms television newsrooms in this city, and reporters hate to
get phone calls from people to say, you told my
story incorrectly, you were wrong, yep.

Speaker 1 (36:51):
And usually if you make that comment, you have something
to back it up. Because I can tell you from
my side, we didn't really reach out to the We
might not like the narrative, but we only really reached
out when we had something we could show verifiably. You
can't really defend what you said, here's the truth. So
did you ever challenge absolutely a reporter were and just,
and even the way they would frame issues that were

(37:13):
not news reporting, but they were they were slanted. They
would take animated pictures. You'd catch a lawmaker laughing and
take the most unflattering image of that lawmaker you had
ever seen, and just blow it up and put it
on the page in the in the news, whether online
or printed version. And it makes that lawmaker look like
a cartoon. And it's done on purpose, and it's done
in a mean spirited way. And we'd call them and

(37:35):
we'd say, you know, I can hear their photographers cameras
going off like a gallle, the shutter going off like
a gatling gun. They pick the most the worst picture
on the wattering picture, Yeah, to make him look buffoonish,
him or her. And and we weren't we It's not
like you can't observe it and see it when you do.
And I don't know how they can justify some of

(37:55):
the things, some of the images that they would try
to create during the session.

Speaker 3 (37:58):
We would call it out.

Speaker 2 (37:59):
And those impressions they do impact people. And you're right,
I mean so yeah, And Caroline Levitt is basically saying today, look,
you make a mistake, you don't tell the truth, we
are going to call you out. And that's what they
should be doing. So though she did a great job,
all right, when we come back, federal workers say they
are terrified. We'll get into that and get your thoughts

(38:20):
on that coming up on the Rod and Greg Show.
Great to be with you on this Tuesday afternoon and
Utah's Talk Radio one oh five nine can arrest well
speaking of nervous greg. President Trump his executive order targeting
federal workforce has injected a fresh wave of anxiety among
federal employees.

Speaker 3 (38:38):
Ah.

Speaker 2 (38:42):
I don't like or talking about people losing their jobs, right,
I mean, nobody wants anybody to lose their job. No, no, No,
I don't really care, Margaret.

Speaker 3 (38:55):
You know, it's just.

Speaker 1 (38:58):
I just find the weeping and whaling and the conditions
of which they are so upset to be kind of
a reflective of what everyday Americans lived through on a
really pretty much a regular basis. When it comes to
gainful employment, we don't seem very different.

Speaker 2 (39:12):
Yeah, we were talking about this earlier today on the
on the show call that we do every morning and
then talk about the issues we want to talk about.
And e Ray and myself and Abby have been in
this broadcasting business and Jason for a long long time.
You were right, you never know from one day to
the next if you're going to have a job the
next day.

Speaker 1 (39:31):
I keep looking over my shoulder of them coming to
this studio, just walking me right out of this building.

Speaker 3 (39:35):
Yeah.

Speaker 2 (39:36):
In the years i've been I've been through probably three
or four of these layoffs, changes in ownership, and you
just learn as a fact of life, you deal with it,
and that's what you have to do.

Speaker 1 (39:48):
If you're a federal worker, that's the question. Twenties or
early thirties. My goodness, yeh, federal workers. This is what
the private sector is all about. And for these people
to be out there going.

Speaker 2 (39:58):
We're nervous, we don't know what we're and we've got
to come to the offense to go to work. I
don't want to do that.

Speaker 1 (40:04):
First off, you know what they're crying about is having
to come into work. Well, welcome to everybody's job. For
the most part, everybody's got to work. Is imagine you
can't do manufacturing, tell a uh conference, you got to
be a place. There's so many jobs of which you
have to be there. And and for them to be
so upset that they would actually have to come to
work as they did pre COVID, that's a bit so.

(40:26):
And then and then they say, well, you know the
commute do you can you know what it's like because
no one lives in do you see they have to
commute here? There's there's a commute to work. Really, childcare,
what do we do about child Really there's a childcare challenge.

Speaker 3 (40:38):
Hmmm.

Speaker 1 (40:39):
Sounds like one that people grapple with quite a bit,
but not for federal workers. And I just think that
they're young and they're they just don't understand there. So
this is why why we're there's such a disconnect between
the federal government it's bureaucracy, and the everyday people because
you can see it in their reactions to these the change,
you know, the change and president, the change and rules.

(41:00):
They just can't take it. And then you get Politico,
which is really a publication for the swamp, and it's.

Speaker 2 (41:04):
Monster, yes, protecting the swamp.

Speaker 1 (41:06):
Their headline is all the federal workers are so disturbed,
and they they legitimize it and say there's just so
much fear and it's something worth empathizing with. But then
when they talk some earlier article Politico does about coal
miners wanting, you know, being told you can't mind coal,
you got it, we to do green energy, they say,
you know, their mindset has to change. These people, their
mindset has to change. So if you're an everyday worker, coworker,

(41:29):
you have to change your mindset of changes coming. If
you're a federal employee, well then your terror is justified
and we should all be afraid for you.

Speaker 2 (41:38):
Well, I want to pick up on that. I wonder
people in the federal workforce. When the Keystone XL pipeline
was killed, did anybody think of those thousands of workers
who were out there working to build that. Did anyone think, Ah,
what a critical piece.

Speaker 1 (41:52):
Of infrastructure that we still need that they just cut
the jobs from. I don't think they lost a blink
of sleep, not even a plant.

Speaker 2 (42:00):
Here's here's what one Stafford is quoted as saying Greg
in this political article. I would love to leave, but
I don't know where to go, and I'm terrified of
not being able to pay rent and not having healthcare.

Speaker 3 (42:12):
Yeah.

Speaker 2 (42:12):
Welcome to reality.

Speaker 1 (42:14):
Yeah, guess what turns out the Affordable Care Act isn't affordable.
Theren't much care either. It turns out that the Inflation
Reduction Act didn't reduce any inflation. So I just think
that they have been in this farcical world imposing these
these policies on everyday people who've been suffering through it,
and now we're gonna there's gonna be a course correction

(42:36):
in Washington, d C. And they're just apoplectic.

Speaker 2 (42:38):
Yeah boo, well wo And if you hadn't heard today,
the President late this afternoon issued a memo he wants
all federal workers back on the job by what's the data.
I think it's February sixth, right. If they decide not
to come back, okay, he will buy them out and
give I think it's six one severance pay. Okay, he'll
buy him out. That will, We'll pay them through the

(43:01):
end of September. Fair deal. You don't get that very
often when a company comes in and bite your company
out and they lay off everybody. And I've been in
one of those situations where someone came in bought the
radio station I was working at and said, see all
of you. Why look?

Speaker 1 (43:18):
And when you look in the business sector, when you
see a large corporation do mass layoffs, their stocks actually
go up.

Speaker 3 (43:23):
The next day.

Speaker 1 (43:24):
They're like, oh, look they're getting atration costs. Now they're
they're yeah, they're trimming costs. They're they're trimming fat. And
their value as a company goes up when they show
these large layoffs. And government, oh my goodness, you'd think,
and so giving him a six month severance. That is
a pretty that's a very good deal for them. But
I can see why the president's doing it. He doesn't
want people there as hostages or they don't have it.

(43:44):
He wants them to go. If you don't want to stay,
I don't want you to stay.

Speaker 2 (43:48):
You don't want to work for my administration.

Speaker 3 (43:49):
Here's a six month severance.

Speaker 1 (43:50):
You can go ahead and cry to you and do
your social media post for six months before reality sets in.

Speaker 3 (43:55):
But get out.

Speaker 2 (43:56):
Are Elon Musk hands all over this? Do you think?

Speaker 1 (43:58):
I think? I think it was part of similar to
when he purchased Twitter. Twitter said, can there's nobody in
the building. It's an empty building. He's walking around in here.
He's like, well, who's working? So he sends out emails says,
can you tell me what your job is? I'd like
you just every one of you just email me back.
Tell me what you do for a job. He said,
everyone has to come back to work. Well everyone was mad, okay,
I'll give you a buy out. Just just leave. And

(44:20):
I think the ones that took him up on it
are the ones he'd want to leave. Was a great
refiners fire, I think so. I do think Elon Musk's
experience in this in perspective may have played hand and
how this is rolling.

Speaker 2 (44:31):
Out well, and we have do we do?

Speaker 11 (44:34):
We know?

Speaker 2 (44:34):
The number of federal employees we have here in the state,
A zillion. There are a lot of them here, right
and primarily because yeah, in our state, primarily because of Hilarir.

Speaker 1 (44:42):
Force Base, well, Hilario Force Base. A large Yeah, federal
federal employee would be uh yeah, I said azilion, meaning nationally,
but in our state, Hillary Force is a large, a
large federal employee.

Speaker 3 (44:53):
But I don't know beyond that.

Speaker 2 (44:55):
I think the federal workforce is three million around around
the country, around the country. As a matter of fact,
do you know what it was when FDR took over.

Speaker 3 (45:05):
I'm afraid the two hundred.

Speaker 2 (45:06):
And fifty nine thousand. Yeah, And since he took over,
he has gone from two hundred and fifty nine thousand
to more than three million today. The American Yeah, and
the American people are going, wait a minute.

Speaker 1 (45:17):
Here, you got that. But on top of that, you
basically have federal play those NGOs and those all that
money I'm looking at like Catholic dioceses that are getting
hundreds of millions of dollars to transport immigrants and even
illegal immigrants all over the country. And I'm going, where
did all that money come from? We told North North Carolina,
the western part, there was no femal money to help you.

(45:38):
And you look at these receipts on hundreds and hundreds
of millions of dollars to move people all over throughout
the country. It's just a bit shocking.

Speaker 2 (45:46):
All right, let's get some of your response to this today.
What you're hearing about federal employees being nervous about losing
their jobs, is this part? Is that what you want
Donald Trump to do to trim the size of government?
It could cause some pain, But are you willing to
put up with that? Eight eight eights five seven o
eight zero one zerald triple eight five seven o eight
zero one zero or on your cell phone, all you

(46:07):
do is have to dial pound two fifty and say, hey, run.

Speaker 1 (46:10):
I was raiding the fridge. Yeah, it's a station here, fossilized.

Speaker 3 (46:15):
Taco, stole my stone cold.

Speaker 1 (46:17):
Yeah, now you're I thought I got away with it,
and then the very person whose item it was was
staring me right in the eye was mine.

Speaker 2 (46:24):
Thank you.

Speaker 1 (46:25):
I came in here stealthily thinking I got away with
something and I got bustled.

Speaker 3 (46:29):
You were never eating this, by.

Speaker 2 (46:30):
The way, No, probably not Probably it could.

Speaker 3 (46:32):
Be in a museum, this thing.

Speaker 1 (46:33):
I don't even know how long it's been in there,
well five days, it's been there a while, and I
got an iron.

Speaker 2 (46:38):
I put it in there. Yes, hey, can we mention this?
This is sad story. Greg Crossing garden Leyton and Abby
just reported as well, died in a morning auto pet
accident and just he ushered a group of kids across
the street in Layton, was on his way back to
the other side of the street and was struck and
killed by his driver. He was sixty seven and the
driver was sixty seven. And it's sad story.

Speaker 3 (47:00):
Tragic. That is so sad.

Speaker 2 (47:01):
Now interesting, there was a police officer right at that
intersection as well. He jumped out of his vehicle as
fast as he could, tried to save the man wasn't
able to do so. Think about the kids who had
just crossed the street thanks to him, probably know him,
and they know him. I mean he's dressed up in
Santa Claus, you know, And that's the story. And these
little kids seen this happen to somebody who's there to

(47:24):
protect them each and every day. That's a that's a
tough story. And if you're you know I like you,
I see crossing guards every day and you know they
get out there. It could be one hundred and ten
degrees or one hundred and ten below zero and they're there.

Speaker 4 (47:38):
You know.

Speaker 1 (47:38):
The detail of that story too, is that where the
driver was also sixty seven. I would if it was
a younger driver, I would think they were distracted through
their phone or something like that.

Speaker 2 (47:46):
But maybe a little older.

Speaker 1 (47:47):
I don't know, it'd be less likely they'd be on
their phone if there are sixty seven and you know driving.

Speaker 3 (47:53):
But it just it's sat on every front, Yeah it is.

Speaker 2 (47:56):
And he's been identified as Stephen Wynn had just helped,
as we mentioned, several kids cross So our condolences, thoughts
and prayers go out to those families, those kids, everybody
involved in this gotta be tough, all right, if you're
just joining us now. The President is making moves on
reducing the sides of the federal workforce, offering a buyout
plan today. But the story in political today is there

(48:18):
are a lot of federal employees who are very, very nervous.
The president has pledged to shrink the size of government
is going to cost some jobs, and do you support
his efforts? Eight eight eight five seven eight zero one
zero eight eight eight five seven o eight zero one
zero on your cell phone, alp pound two fifty and
say hey, Rod to the phones we go. Let's talk
with Zaye in Ogden to night, Zain, how are you?

(48:40):
What are your thoughts on this? Saye, I'm doing good.

Speaker 10 (48:44):
Thanks for having me.

Speaker 6 (48:45):
Yeah.

Speaker 10 (48:45):
I know a lot of people who work for the
irs here in Utah, and most of the time when
I'm around them when their job, when jobs get brought up,
they just complain about all the lazy people they work
with and how they're carrying the weight and doing the
job of six other people. So it's a double win
for me. Let's hear it of all the wasteful spending

(49:06):
on those employees, and then I don't have to hear
about it anymore.

Speaker 1 (49:10):
Yeah, that's a really interesting perspective. I forgot that there's
a pretty big center and we were talking about but
but it wouldn't it be nice for those who feel
like they're they're they're actually being over work because there's
a lazy federal workers to get some that actually want
to work, Like imagine this, go into all.

Speaker 10 (49:26):
And even maybe give them, maybe even give them a
pay raise if they're you know, they're cutting that much costs. Yeah,
they're doing that many responsibilities. Give them a little periods
and make it work their.

Speaker 2 (49:36):
While, Zane, do you hear this often from people who
you associate with and people you know who work for
the I R S. Do you hear this often?

Speaker 11 (49:44):
Oh?

Speaker 10 (49:44):
Yeah, Like I said, it's almost every time I talk
to them about work, it's it's their complaining about somebody
who's not doing their job, or they had to go
in and do an audit on somebody because on some
other phasbility because they're not doing their job. Just a

(50:04):
lot of a lot of it is people, and a
lot of people are really dragging their feet on returning
to work. But the irs, the major one we have
in Ogden has a childcare clinic. It was shut down
during COVID. I don't know if they've reopened that, but
some people who are working and have kids, they can

(50:26):
take their kids to the daycare and get free childcare
from it too.

Speaker 3 (50:31):
So all right, Zanie, thank you, I appreciate your fu
and I love our listeners.

Speaker 1 (50:36):
I love these perspective. We take a national story and
we can always but usually with our callers, boil it
down to something that is being experienced here in Utah.
It really confirms a lot of what we're talking about.
Let's get back to the phones and let's go to
Ron in South Jordan. Ron, thank you for calling the
Rod and Greg show.

Speaker 6 (50:53):
What's they you, sir, Well, it's pathetic with the what
Obama and what Biden had done. They've made. For example,
the last quarter of twenty twenty three, you know how
they'd always say that, you know, you've got to grow
the economy and not print money, and so we were

(51:17):
talking about you know, adjusted gross domestic product and they
would never talk about it. Well, the last at the
end of twenty twenty three, they're saying, oh, look the
domestic product went up. Well, if you look at the details,
the private sector jobs went down. The sector that went
up was government. But they print all this money and
they actually I would like them to audit all these

(51:40):
different pools of money because they were taking money from
one pool and they're just they paid people to basically
knocked doors and call them government workers. So it's ridiculously overbloated.
I hope they do an audit. I hope they You know,
I mean, you have a whole pool of people that
are that are being paid, a lot of them to

(52:00):
do nothing, and it's that's correction.

Speaker 1 (52:04):
Yeah, it rotmber the jobs report when they said, well,
how many non governmental jobs and it wasn't.

Speaker 3 (52:09):
The job growth really was all federal sector. It wasn't.

Speaker 1 (52:12):
There wasn't a private sector jobs growth, but they were
trying to point to that job growth number to up
his approval ratings. But they were all government created jobs.

Speaker 2 (52:20):
Well what do we have that story yesterday that Washington,
DC area have the highest paid employees out there on
average they make one hundred thousand dollars a year. Yeah,
it's in Washington, DC area. Pretty amazing. All right, more
of your calls coming up here on the Rod and
Greg show eight eight eight five seven O eight zero
one zero eight eight eight five seven o eight zero
one zero, or on your cell phone dial pound two

(52:40):
fifty and say hey, rod.

Speaker 1 (52:41):
Eray sent me the trailer and I don't even know
there's a show going on as I'm watching. You do
have a radio show with the equalizer, do you know,
with four shows, I could spend an entire days two
for six. Yeah, this is going to be it's going
to be a very good thing. I can't I don't
think they can make a bad equalizer. So I'm super excited.

Speaker 2 (53:01):
We'll see what happens. All right, Now, we've been talking
about this yesterday and again today. We have a pair
of tickets to give away to Jason Alden in concert
coming up July twenty sixth. Right, here's how you will
win the tickets, or you can the tickets. We're going
to ask a trivia question about Jason Aldeen on the
air sometime probably in the six o'clock hour.

Speaker 9 (53:20):
Now.

Speaker 2 (53:20):
The answer must be submitted via a private direct message
on the at rodding Greg X page or the Twitter
page as it used to be called. The person who
provides the correct answer first will win the tickets, provided
they are a follower of at Rodding Greg show on X.

Speaker 3 (53:38):
I'll explain it, yes.

Speaker 1 (53:39):
I One listener said that the direct the private or
direct message, was not open.

Speaker 3 (53:44):
But it is open.

Speaker 2 (53:45):
Yeah it is.

Speaker 1 (53:46):
I've confirmed that it's open. It's ready to go, but
you gotta be a follower.

Speaker 2 (53:50):
Yeah, and don't e Ray don't you use a little
envelope looking thing to send in the message? Is that
how you do it? I think that is how you
do it. So we'll do that sometime. Now we have
a question that we'll ask you and then you'll want
to answer on our X page. Is that easy, folks?

Speaker 1 (54:04):
So you said it might come into six o'clock hour,
it pretty much has to.

Speaker 2 (54:08):
We're coming up. But we need to take a couple
of phone call.

Speaker 1 (54:12):
Yeah, let's do that. Let's go back to our calles.
We're talking about these federal workers that this is a
good idea to do. Let's go to Nate and Ogden. Nate,
thank you for holding and welcome to the Rodd and
Greg show. These federal employees? Should they be cut or what?

Speaker 4 (54:24):
What?

Speaker 3 (54:24):
What say you?

Speaker 4 (54:25):
Sir?

Speaker 13 (54:27):
All right?

Speaker 14 (54:27):
My name is Nate. I I'm out here on the
freeway headed north every night and I worked at Hillfield
for about nine years. My wife works for the irs.
It's ridiculous. I mean every job I've ever had, you've

(54:48):
had to be there on time, leave, you know, right
on time. They give you like a fifteen or twenty
minute laps. They let you go twenty minutes thirty Sometimes
you mess so up, you spell up, if you don't
do your job good enough, they just move to a better,
higher position. And it's just ridiculous. So I don't know

(55:09):
how we get around all of that, because if the
management is the same way, what do you do?

Speaker 1 (55:15):
Yeah, yeah, So you're saying that the manager they got
winners and losers, They pick favorites and they get they
don't have to do the work the others do. Is
that is that what you're saying, Nate.

Speaker 6 (55:24):
Yes, yes, correct.

Speaker 9 (55:26):
Yeah.

Speaker 14 (55:26):
So if you're in good with the upper echelons or
second second line supervisors, you've got it made. You'll move
up into the supervisor you know. Yeah, it's disgusting, and
I don't know how they're going to fix it by
cutting the bottom, you know, certain percentage, and you've got
guys that have been there for thirty five years that

(55:47):
come there in the morning and don't do a thing
all day.

Speaker 2 (55:50):
Yeah. Well all right, Nate, thank you. Let's see. Yeah,
we've got time to get on one more call Jim,
and salt Lake said he got to be quick, Jim,
go ahead and way in.

Speaker 7 (55:59):
Yeah, it should be cut. They should all be cut
in half. Wow, they could do the same thing with
what by cutting half of them? Did you know that
we won the Second World War with seven four star generals?

Speaker 2 (56:14):
Seven?

Speaker 7 (56:15):
Do you know how many we have now?

Speaker 3 (56:17):
I'm afraid that do we want to know?

Speaker 6 (56:20):
Almost fifty? Wow?

Speaker 7 (56:22):
Almost fifty and we won the Second World War with seven.

Speaker 4 (56:27):
We are so.

Speaker 7 (56:28):
Bloated they need to get rid of half of all
government employees.

Speaker 2 (56:33):
Yeah, and I think that's what the American people are saying.
Look at the size of gopment. Let's drink it.

Speaker 1 (56:38):
If you did half, you hit even Nate's issue about
about upper management getting this easy job. Okay, now you
got fifty percent of what you're working with. Who gets
the easy job? Now there isn't an easy job. I
would think. I would think that would that would put
everybody on notice. You got to go perform and work
like we all. I think we all do we do.
I think I don't know anyone that just collects and

(56:59):
doesn't work.

Speaker 2 (57:00):
All right, Nuds coming up following news, of course, this
is something that you and I have talked about as
we look to improve elections in this state. What can
be done to clean up the voter rolls? And we're
gonna be talking about that coming up after our news
update here on the Rod and Greg Show, and sometime
as Greg just's so intelligent, guess that in the six
track hour we are going to give away the Jasonldne tech. Yeah,

(57:25):
you're you're brilliant figuring that one out. All right, we're
coming up our number three kids next to stay with us.

Speaker 1 (57:33):
Yes, your car has never paid attention to them. What
do you How do you listen to music.

Speaker 3 (57:37):
In your car?

Speaker 2 (57:38):
I just listened to talk radio.

Speaker 1 (57:42):
How do they have those new fangled contraptions called radios
and cars that happen?

Speaker 2 (57:46):
Is that thing?

Speaker 3 (57:49):
Presets still exists.

Speaker 2 (57:50):
I know they do. I'm just kidding you. But they're
the old days where you'd punch them.

Speaker 1 (57:57):
Of course you punch it. I mean to make a
punch of equal button. But it's it looks like a
button on your screen. You press it, but it's not
a button. It's the same as the oh my goodness,
not a button.

Speaker 2 (58:08):
It is, in a real sense of the word, not
a button. All right, speaking of buttons and music, it's
got to be this hour that we give the way
the jasonal details. Yep, yeah, we got to do it
the last.

Speaker 1 (58:21):
Hour of the program. So yeah, and we'll go. Should
we go over the not We won't now, but I
think we should. Will we will launch, but we have
an important interview.

Speaker 2 (58:32):
Yes we do. Utah lawmakers are expanding their response to
a recent election audit with the release of a bill
that would do something that Greg and I have talked
about for a long long time, and it deals with
voter rolls.

Speaker 1 (58:46):
Absolutely these voter registered. The voter rolls many states have
let out. I'm thinking of Virginia's Governor Youngkin has done
a phenomenal job of scrubbing their election roles and finding
a lot to scrub. So love to hear that this
work is going on, or at least legislation to get
this work to happen here in the state of Utah.

Speaker 2 (59:04):
Well joining us on our newsmaker line and the lawmaker
behind this effort is Representative Carrie and Lizabeth Carrian. How
are you and welcome back to the Rod and Greg Show.
Thank you, Carrion, you're cunning. Yeah, you're kind of becoming
a regular on the show. I hope you know that
this probably isn't doing anything to advance your career.

Speaker 3 (59:23):
Dell.

Speaker 1 (59:23):
Listen to Rod, Representative, it's doing everything. This is the
place to be.

Speaker 2 (59:28):
This is not helping you.

Speaker 11 (59:29):
I honor for both you and Greg. I'm honored to
be on the show.

Speaker 2 (59:34):
That's very nice for you. All right, let's talk about
what you're trying to do with voter rolls and why
it's so necessary in your opinion.

Speaker 11 (59:42):
Thank you. So you've probably had the opportunity to read
the recent audit, but it's a huge problem. We are seeing,
for instance, seven hundred dead people who were dead when
the ballots were printed received ballots this year. Two of
them actually voted. This is a problem, and there are

(01:00:04):
multiple other people who should not be on their voter
rule as identified by the auditors, who are on the
voter rules, who need to be removed. Those aren't getting cleaned.
We do have some counties that are doing a good
job that other counties aren't. And our elections are only
as secure as our voter registration and our processes.

Speaker 1 (01:00:22):
You know. I find there's a trend here dead people
only vote by mail. They never come in person. I
don't know why. I don't know why that's the trend,
but it is absolutely the trend only by mail. They're shy,
they don't come in person. So I've heard some arguments.
We know the numbers of those that actually do where
somebody has two voter voter ID numbers, and there's a
lot of there were a lot of examples of where
these roles people that were voting didn't have the legal

(01:00:45):
right to vote. But I'm told that the numbers that
actually vote are so small it's decimal. Dust it's not
statistically significant. But have you, represent I've ever met the
person who's excited or okay with their vote being canceled
out by a fraudulent vote, even if it's one. Have
you ever met that person that's okay with it?

Speaker 11 (01:01:04):
Absolutely not, And that's my point, Greg, We actually are
inserting distrust into the system if we are trying to
dismiss concerns when it's in regards to a secure and
accurate voting system. We do not want to disenfranchise any
voters by allowing people to vote who should not be

(01:01:26):
voting in our elections.

Speaker 2 (01:01:28):
Representative, you're looking at canceling a contract with the Electronic
Registration Information Center. I think it expires in July. What
would you replace it with? I mean, are there other
systems out there that we could use? Can we bring
it into the state and use our own system. How
would it work.

Speaker 11 (01:01:47):
Well, that's a great question. So a lot of the
states that have canceled their contracts with ERIC, and I
think the number is up to ten states now in
the last three years that have canceled their contract with ERIC,
and they're conducting memoriums of understanding between states where there's
a lot of movement between those states, and that's something
that UTAH could do. Now, is it less convenient for

(01:02:10):
people who oversee elections and you Tah, Sure it is,
but it's not that inconvenient. We can certainly engage with
those states that are nearby or that we're having a
lot of movement through. But the other thing I think
that is important to notice that there are lots of
better technologies out there that can do a better job
at identifying abnormalities and anomalies of individuals. Maybe four hundred

(01:02:35):
people are registered at the same address. Well, quantum technology
can identify that and can let the Lieutenant governor know.
And something else that's in my bills that's really important
is I am prescribing now and a hard and fast
process for this is how we're going to remove people
who shouldn't be on the voter rolls that's not incode currently,

(01:02:58):
and that's a problem. We need to make sure sure
that we have a process to actually require those people
to be removed in a timely manner before ballots are
sent out.

Speaker 1 (01:03:08):
We're speaking with that Representative carry On Lizsenby the majority
whip in the House. Very busy sessions taking on a
lot of really important public policy, and I think our
voter roles in learning and getting them cleaned up, it
couldn't be more important.

Speaker 3 (01:03:20):
I'm going to throw this.

Speaker 1 (01:03:21):
Idea you, Representative Florida, Okay, as a state, it's twenty
two point six million people live in that state. We're
a much smaller state by scale. One of the ways
that they are cleaning their voter roles every other year
is that if you want to vote by mail, you
have to ask to have your ballot mailed every even
numbered year every two years. This would have the effect

(01:03:44):
of dead people having a very difficult time asking for
their ballot to be mailed. If you moved, you would
ask from the place you moved from, is there any
I mean, we talk on this program a lot about
how Florida's conducting their elections, especially as a large state.
Would that be a suggestion is so if someone complains
about your bill, I have a friendly amendment. Okay, how

(01:04:05):
about do it this way just to let let everybody
re you know, just file and say I'd like my
ballot mail every other year and if you don't, you
can come in person.

Speaker 11 (01:04:16):
Yeah, we do. We do some language similar to that
actually in another bill, and it's a bill that Representative
Burton is running, and it's a fantastic bill for also
shoring up requiring an ID when people go to the
pose to vote. Eighty one percent of people in the
United States, according to a Pew poll, support a requirement

(01:04:37):
to show photo ID when they vote. That's something that
Utans care about. They like to get their ballot in
the mail. They like to review the candidates. But like,
as we say, faceciously right, a dead person can't take
their ballot to the pull, show an ID and vote,
and that requirement would then preclude them. That would preclude

(01:04:58):
those those those.

Speaker 3 (01:05:01):
Ghosts.

Speaker 11 (01:05:02):
It's in the ballots and so yeah, so so it's
really important that we also address those issues. And I
think we're doing it really well. And Jefferson Burton's beell, we.

Speaker 1 (01:05:13):
Had him on the program and we applaud that effort
as well. I think a lot of Utah's representer are
so surprised to hear that Utah does not require a
legal idea to vote. This signature and the and the
software and all this other stuff and the cure lists,
none of that is a legal idea to vote. When
you look at the states that Utahs is lumped in
with that don't require a legal idea to vote, they're

(01:05:34):
not the states that Utah and I mean blue states
that we're usually associated with. So I think that's an
important provision as well, is that to require legal idea
And as you pointed out, it's very intuitive to most people.

Speaker 2 (01:05:46):
Yeah. Represcentive is always great. The only Yeah, go ahead.

Speaker 11 (01:05:50):
Sorry, go ahead, I'm going to say the only. We're
the only we're the only red states on the list
of people have universal mill in balloting and so totally
do you agree we need touch us up? But thanks
for your time tonight.

Speaker 2 (01:06:02):
All right, thank you Representative Harriyan lizzamby joining us on
our newsmaker line. And Greg, if in fact the dead
person shows up to vote, we've got a story.

Speaker 3 (01:06:10):
Well, it's it's the start of a haunt.

Speaker 1 (01:06:11):
It's a horror movie at that point, and it's haunted
and it's a bad it's a bad way to go.

Speaker 2 (01:06:15):
But we've got a story of that.

Speaker 1 (01:06:17):
Demographics of dead people that only vote by mail, it's
I think it's one hundred percent. Yeah, I think it's
I do. I think it's one hundred percent. They will
only vote by mail. They never have the courage to
come to you know, the pole place.

Speaker 2 (01:06:26):
So reason behind that, by the way. All right, more
coming up on the Rod and Greg Show, and we'll
have details as to how you can win those Jason
Aldan tickets coming up in just a minute right here
on Utah's Talk Radio one oh five nine. Kate and
our ass.

Speaker 3 (01:06:39):
Why can't be color fifty? Why is always to be five?

Speaker 2 (01:06:41):
We don't want to ask you right to answer fifty
phone calls? I'm not I don't really care, Margaret.

Speaker 1 (01:06:46):
That's why, that's why I should be fifty. Right there,
right there, that that.

Speaker 2 (01:06:50):
He's throwing that on you, He does me.

Speaker 1 (01:06:52):
I wonder why you ever it's always me. I'm always
bullied by you.

Speaker 2 (01:06:55):
Don't understand why it.

Speaker 3 (01:06:57):
Should be color fifty.

Speaker 1 (01:06:58):
I swear you got to get up over it's just
too easy, he's mailing it in.

Speaker 2 (01:07:02):
All right, you taught legislature. All of a sudden, Greg,
the the topic of collective bargaining is becoming white a
quite a topic of discussion up on Utah's Capitol Hill
right now.

Speaker 1 (01:07:14):
Greg, it is so this this is a this is
a profile and courage. This is what I would call
my Spartan Leonidas Award. Truly, like you know, you know
the story about the three hundred to one hundred thousand
invading Persians and Sparta at that pinch point King Leonidas. Okay,
it's it's just it's bravery. You know that's historic. This
bill probably had thirteen thousand emails or communications from teachers

(01:07:40):
unions and public play unions against this bill. And our
next guest didn't blink, and I you know, he passed it.
I'm telling you I this is a bill that on
when I was on the clock, Well, you would be
really hard to pass this bill, and he just came
saw and kicktail.

Speaker 2 (01:07:56):
He's going to do it. The bill would eliminate collective
bargaining for public sector employees, including teachers, firefighters, and police officers.

Speaker 1 (01:08:04):
So joining us on the program is Representative Jordan Tusher representative.

Speaker 3 (01:08:07):
Thank you for joining us on the program.

Speaker 8 (01:08:10):
Hey, thanks for having me.

Speaker 1 (01:08:12):
Man, how did you do this this bill? Well, actually,
before you get into how you did it, would you
share with our audience the water you walked on, the
miracle you did. Like, how tell them what this bill
does because it defies belief for me.

Speaker 8 (01:08:26):
Yeah, well, I'll say we are not to the finish
line yet, but we're working hard to get there. This
bill really does four things. The first thing and most
controversial thing, is it bans public sector collective bargaining, so
for all of our public employees, we will no longer
have written agreements between public sector labor unions and our

(01:08:49):
government entities. The other three teams are a little less controversial.
It puts in some restrictions around government moneies like paying
for time off or union employees with with government moneys,
or allowing them extra special space within government facilities. The
third thing that it does is it says those union employees,

(01:09:11):
not our public employees, but the union employees are not
eligible for the Utah retirement system. And this isn't something
that I knew was even a thing until we dove
into this, But we have fifty five union employees members
of that work solely for the UEA and other labor
unions that are on the Utah retirement system, and I

(01:09:32):
know that pushes that often.

Speaker 1 (01:09:34):
I'm telling you it's been a source spot for a
lot of people for a long time.

Speaker 3 (01:09:38):
We knew about this, some of.

Speaker 8 (01:09:40):
Us well, you know, we're glad to do something about it.
And then the last thing that it does is it
provides teachers professional liability insurance that they could opt into.
So that's something that we hear all the time. I'm
sure you've heard of Greg as you went around and
talked to teachers that they're like, you know, I don't
really want to be a member of this union. I
don't believe in what the UEA the NEA is proposing.

(01:10:01):
But I've been told I need to get this membership
because it provides insurance. And I'm going to be you know,
I'm gonna lose my house if someone sues me while
I'm teaching. So this, this allows teachers an alternative path
at almost the cost of one month's union dues to
be protecting.

Speaker 2 (01:10:18):
The classroom representative, we are a right to work state.
Why do we need to build like this? Knowing that
we're a right to work state, Can you explain that
to the audience.

Speaker 8 (01:10:27):
Yeah, yeah, that's a great question. So right to work
means that you can't be hired or fired because you
are a member of a union or you're not a
member of union. But what we do have in a
number of cases, particularly with our police and fire it's
just in Salt Lake City, and then with our education

(01:10:47):
associations these collective bargain agreements. And there's two big problems
with collective bargaining agreements when you're in the public sector space.
The first is when they sit down at the table,
they are the sole negotiating partners. So if our school
districts are on one side of the table, the other
side of the union and they're fighting out the employment contract,

(01:11:09):
that union may only represent a quarter of the employees,
but they're the only one that gets to negotiate. And
so you have, you know, three quarters of our employees
that really have no voice in that bargaining process of
what the types of benefits and salaries are going to have.
And when you look at who typically are union members,
it's else to you know, those that have been you know,

(01:11:31):
working for a really long time, they're going to care
more about you know, how do I continue to get
pay raises in my twenty fifth thirtieth year, you know,
how how am I going to get more retirement And
they're not paying attention to maybe the new employees, you know,
that care about maternity benefits, they care about starting wages,
that type of thing. The second major problem with public

(01:11:54):
sector collective bargaining is when you're in the private sector
and you're negotiating a contract, that company has to make
a profit or else they go out of business. The
government never goes out of business, and so you can
have government entities that sign up for something that really
isn't doesn't work in the private space, but in the

(01:12:15):
at the end of the day, the government pays for it.
And when we said the government pays for it, it's
the taxpayers paying for it, and so there's some real
problems with that. We also have some problems where, you know,
unions are donating to political candidates. Those political candidates make
promises and then they turn around and they're the ones
on the other side of the table negotiating.

Speaker 1 (01:12:32):
So, you know, an example of what you're talking about
is when I was a lawmaker and I was I
believe I was the chair of the House Education Standing Committee.
But we're looking at a bill that would give every
teacher across the board. I think back then it was
six thousand dollars or seven thousand dollars. And I'd asked
the teachers in my district, without regard to how long
they had served, how long they had been a teacher,
if they would like that or not, And without exception,

(01:12:55):
every teacher said, oh, I'd love seven thousand more Mike's
ery than I have now, and they weren't upset if
the younger teachers got the same amount or the more
which the younger ones that represents a larger percentage of
their compensation. We had the Teachers' union come before and
testify in our committee against that bill. They said they
wanted the control to collect a bargain that money. They
want us to block granted and let them reward the

(01:13:18):
more tenured teachers with more pay and the ones that
were newer with less. And they did not want an
across the board salary increase. And again that's I think
a separation between a union that's looking to control those
negotiations versus what I saw was every teacher, every educator,
would would love and we actually passed the bill. But

(01:13:39):
they loved the idea of getting a raise, and they
weren't worried about the other teachers and how long they
had been working there. So I just say that to
say that I think your eye on that is correct.

Speaker 8 (01:13:50):
Yeah, I would just say I don't think that's surprising
at all hearing that story, because I've seen time and
time again these unions come up and advocate for things
that help entrench and enforce their power and authority over
what's going on when it's not in the best interest
of their union members.

Speaker 2 (01:14:08):
Representative one final question, A lot of pushback, a lot
of support for this. Where do you think this is headed?

Speaker 8 (01:14:15):
Well, it's going to be heard tomorrow in the Senate
Revenue and Tax Committee. I think we have strong support
in the Senate. We're going to continue to push this through.
I'll mention that I am continuing. You just got out
of a meeting with another labor union hearing their concerns,
seeing if there's things that we need to make tweaks
in the bill to ensure that we're not hurting any
of our public employees. So we don't want to do that,

(01:14:37):
but we really want to give them more of a
voice than they have today.

Speaker 2 (01:14:40):
All Right, well we'll see how this tracks out. Representative,
thank you very much for joining us tonight here on
the Roden greg Show. Thank you, thanks for having all Right,
that is a state Representative Jordan Tusher, talking about the
collective bargaining issue that Utah lawmakers are discussing this year.
A sad note in media today, we had to say
goodbye to Jim Acosta.

Speaker 1 (01:15:01):
Yes, sad note, sound like he passed away anything. It's
he just took his toys and went home.

Speaker 2 (01:15:07):
Well said, our numbers are so bad. You know that
show you used to in the middle of the day,
not anymore. As a matter of fact, we're thinking about
putting you at midnight.

Speaker 1 (01:15:16):
That's midnight Eastern. That'd be two am our time. That'd
be three am Pacific time.

Speaker 2 (01:15:21):
Right midnight Eastern would be ten pm our time.

Speaker 3 (01:15:23):
Ten pm. Oh, it goes back the other way.

Speaker 1 (01:15:26):
Forgot, so I just want to believe that it's midnight
Pacific time.

Speaker 2 (01:15:32):
Well, we want to leave you tonight with a montage
of some of Jim Acosta's shinier moments.

Speaker 15 (01:15:39):
God damn it, I will say it out loud that
it is all right it is our duty. It is
our role to ask the President of the United States
if he's a racist. At one point during this address,
the president referred to the coronavirus as a quote foreign virus.
It's going to come across to a lot of Americans.
As backing of xenophobia, the president seems to harbor racist

(01:16:02):
feelings about people of color. He also continued to paint
immigrants as criminals when they come across the border illegally.
Donald Trump's radical ultranationalist agenda beginning to take shape this morning.
The President of the United States looking like a wanna
be dictator. A hard right Supreme Court appears poised to
turn back the clock to the nineteen seventies. Jake, I

(01:16:23):
think our founding fathers are probably rolling in their graves
right now. What are you, the voter, prepared to do
to hold accountable those politicians who choose Trump over American democracy.
Fox News, they've been on this rampage about critical race theory.
This is just the latest outrage device over at Fox,
is it not. The Republican Party is caught in a

(01:16:44):
riptide of disinformation. It's carrying the rest of the country
out to see who we're hearing about so called cheap fakes,
and all of this is to try to make the
case that Biden is slipping.

Speaker 9 (01:16:55):
He's confused.

Speaker 15 (01:16:56):
That address probably should have come with a surgeon general's
warning it was hazardous.

Speaker 9 (01:17:00):
The truth.

Speaker 2 (01:17:07):
Some of the shinier moments from Jim Acosta. Are we
going to miss him?

Speaker 1 (01:17:10):
No, not at all. Yeah, I don't care what time
zone he's in. He's gone. Okay, I'm just and he
couldn't go fast enough. He made such a mockery of
that press pool and Trump's first term he got he
chilled out, like disappeared on Biden's didn't give him a
day of hard you know, hard times, and then you
know he's ramping it up already. How about the congressman

(01:17:31):
had said, well, he gets it. This isn't Fox News,
this is this is this is the news. Yeah, that's
why more people are watching Nickelodeon and SpongeBob reruns.

Speaker 3 (01:17:40):
That's why. Okay, and I.

Speaker 1 (01:17:41):
Love that he said that to him, and well, I'd
love him. Think that's why he had it.

Speaker 2 (01:17:45):
And I had the story earlier this week where I
think it was last week. All his coworkers couldn't stand
Jim Acosta they they did not want to work with that.

Speaker 3 (01:17:53):
Yeah, it couldn't stand. As soon as they found out
he was leaving, they were all so happy.

Speaker 2 (01:17:57):
Yeah, they'll be happy when we leave some day, know
they won't. All right, That does it for us. Tonight,
head off, shoulders back. May God bless you and your
family and that great state and country of ours. We're
back tomorrow with Wingman. Wednesday, we'll talk to you

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