The Rod and Greg Show: Senator Curtis and Congressman Owens React to Cease Fire News

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Speaker 1 (00:00):
Hey, do you remember when Trump called the show and
you weren't here?

Speaker 2 (00:03):
Yeah?

Speaker 1 (00:03):
Do you remember?

Speaker 2 (00:04):
How did he go?

Speaker 1 (00:05):
While you were gone? You were in Dizzey called the
show and then and then while you were gone, we
saw the bombs drop. A lot of things happen, So
when you are when you're not around, But I'll tell you, folks,
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(00:26):
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to uh bet my first born male child, because I
would have done it without pause, because I thought there
was no possible way, with the amount of traveling you did,
that you would be here today, or that you would
not be very white.

Speaker 2 (00:44):
I thought both were betting on it.

Speaker 1 (00:47):
Oh, yeah, it was. It was a fact you you
you so seldom travel without getting sick. So to see
you bright eyed, bushytail with all with all the jet
lag that must be you must be feeling, I'm I'm
I'm hats off.

Speaker 2 (01:00):
Well, I I'm feeling it. I mean, it'll hit me here.
I called my wife, by the way, to my wonderful
wife today. It is her birthday today, birthday today.

Speaker 1 (01:09):
Happy birthday. Dream Like. I don't think she's awake right now, she's.

Speaker 2 (01:13):
I called her about an hour ago. He said, how
you doing. She goes, I'm hitting the wall. I'm gonna
go take a nap. So if I fall asleep during
the show today, you know I've hit the wall.

Speaker 3 (01:21):
You know.

Speaker 1 (01:21):
I was gonna have you sit in the wingman spot
over here in the studio. I was going to take
the NASA like board again, you know.

Speaker 2 (01:26):
And I'm ready. Yeah. It is just so great to
be back. And there's so much to talk about today.
We've got some breaking news from CNN. This is important, folks.
You want to listen to this because this is really important.
Donald Trump today, well, he told the told the Democrats
what they can do with their idea to impeach him.

(01:49):
He must have been up all night watching Clint Eastwood movies,
Dirty Hearing movies.

Speaker 1 (01:53):
I know, I love it.

Speaker 2 (01:54):
His response today was just great.

Speaker 1 (01:55):
It was it was lengthy and it was to the point, and.

Speaker 2 (02:00):
He really got upset with Israel and your run who
are now both saying, oh, by the way, we will
honor the ceasefire.

Speaker 1 (02:06):
So when I woke up this morning, so I went
to bed last night watching and I saw that they
were everybody's trying to get their licks in before the
ceasefire was supposed to start. And I was a bit
surprised that both were being pretty energetic and getting the
last bit out. But the way it was worded, it
was like they had this plan. They're like, okay, it'll
be six hours and twelve hours and twenty four hours,
so you knew that there were things that were coming.

(02:27):
It seemed a bit energetic. And then so I went
to bed and it was questionable whether it was going
to hold or not because they had gone so over
the top before the official time began. I wake up
this morning and President Trump is livid.

Speaker 2 (02:42):
He is so mad.

Speaker 1 (02:43):
And I tell you, I think sometimes that's what it requires.
I think his very public frustration, even though he was
a bit of a swear bear, I think that it
was absolutely needed and that Israel and Iran needed to
be called out by this president in that moment.

Speaker 2 (02:59):
Well, here's what the President said today when he learned
that neither one of them is honoring the ceasefire. At
least in the early stages, Ron violated.

Speaker 4 (03:09):
Do you mean that a Ron for you need to
see you and you do?

Speaker 1 (03:13):
They violated, but Israel violated it too.

Speaker 5 (03:17):
In Israel. As soon as we made the deal, they
came out and they dropped the load of bombs the
likes of which I've never seen before, the biggest load
that we've seen. I'm not happy with Israel. You know,
when I say, okay, now you have twelve hours, you
don't go out in the first hour and just drop
everything you have on. So I'm not happy with them.
I'm not happy with Iron either. But I'm really unhappy

(03:38):
if Israel's going out this morning because the one rocket
that didn't land, that was shot perhaps by mistake, that
didn't land, I'm not happy about that. You know what
we have, We basically have two countries that have been
fighting so long and so hard that they don't know
what the fuck they're doing.

Speaker 2 (03:57):
You understand that he makes a very good point in
the beginning.

Speaker 1 (04:06):
You've had two countries who've been fighting for centuries. They
don't want their heart, they don't know what they're doing. Now,
I know this is a family show and I know
that some of that language might not be well received,
but I absolutely believe that this president, uniquely, President Trump
is showing not only Net and Yahoo where this isn't
done internally. If he was, I do think he was

(04:26):
trying to get as much in as he possibly could,
and I think he even understood that he would disappoint
or even anger Trump by doing it. But I think
he probably had people like Lindsay Grammer, people just saying,
you know, go get your licks in, and then you
had you had Iran responding to but I think that
they thought those would be internal frustrations. When he, in
the most public of ways, calls both countries out, they

(04:50):
are both standing on thin limbs in that moment. And
what I think those countries should understand is you don't
want to be someone who tells President Trump one thing
and does another. And if you are that person or
that country, I don't I personally, Greg Hughes, I don't
want to be on the receiving end of that. And
I think both countries uniquely felt that. And what we
saw was a guy who, while he gets continued to

(05:12):
get accused of, planned for the neocons team or the
isolationists team or whatever they want to say. You could
see in that moment he is sincerely and genuinely striving
for peace and he had no time or patience for
either one of those countries this morning. And I believe
right now and it always changes as of right now
that that ceasefire is still holding.

Speaker 2 (05:33):
Yeah, and it is holding, and you can just hear
the frustration. I mean he he has come out and said,
I want piece, I want Iran to flourish. We just
need to get them to stop the nuclear development program.
We want this country to be successful. And he's working
hard to do it. He gets a deal, or he
thought he had a deal, but it's like, okay, one
more shot. I gotta just send one more missile or

(05:54):
fly one more plane. And it just ticked the guy
off to oh, you don't blame him for being made well,
you know, you put himself out there. He wasn't his announcement.

Speaker 1 (06:02):
Two minutes rod before as we started the show at
four o'clock at four oh two, he put out the announcement.

Speaker 2 (06:07):
That he's fine. Yesterday yesterday, I mean.

Speaker 1 (06:10):
Yeah, I know you, I know you think it's fright.
It's not fright. Yeah, So anyway, but it was with
such a bold confidence that this is what was going
to happen that he's you know, it makes it. It
could make him look like he was he's not up
to up to speed with what's going on. So I
think he was highly frustrated, justifiably, and I think that

(06:32):
that check that we heard from him, I think was
important for them to hear, and the way they heard
it very publicly.

Speaker 2 (06:38):
Now the legacy media has just been salvating waiting to
hear this. The initial damage assessment is now coming in
and here's the announcement today on CNN's CNN Breaking News.

Speaker 6 (06:52):
We have major breaking news into CNN. Three sources tell
CNN that according to an early US intelligence assessment, the
US military strikes on three of Iran's nuclear facilities last
weekend did not destroy the core components of the country's
nuclear program and likely only set it back a few months.

Speaker 3 (07:10):
That's right.

Speaker 7 (07:10):
So this is an assessment that actually is out from
the Defense Intelligence Agency, that is the Pentagon's intelligence arm
and it was based on a battle damage assessment conducted
by US Sentcom after the strikes.

Speaker 2 (07:23):
According to one of the.

Speaker 7 (07:24):
Sources, let's go to see a national security correspondent in
Tasha Bertrand, who has this exclusive new reporting. This is
to that question that has been asked about how much
damage has been done. This is a real question. It's
also a political question that has been to something that
Donald Trump has been sort of dealing with here recently.

(07:47):
What are you learning, Natasha?

Speaker 8 (07:49):
Yeah, Look, Brianda, this is the first assessment that we
are getting that the US intelligence community has found about
the battle damage that resulted from those US military strikes
on these three Iranian nuclear facilities over the weekend. And
as you said, it was produced by the Defense Intelligence Agency,
which is the Pentagon's intelligence arm And it is worth
noting that it is a very early assessment.

Speaker 2 (08:11):
A very early assessment, you know. And can you hear
the energy in their voice? Greg, Oh, we got it.
It didn't do anything. We didn't do what the President
said we did. I mean, they're just so much excitement. Now.

Speaker 1 (08:22):
Can I put this in context? Yes, relative context relevant?
It's hard to listen to. So yes, let's get the
rest of the story first. The Israelis, okay, let's put
this in. They have a lot of interest in this,
of course, in setting back Iran A long, long time
they've done their intelligent assessments, okay, and concluded that Iran
has been set back for years. Okay, that's in really now. Second,

(08:46):
the reporter involved in this, Natasha Bertram name sound familiar. Well,
she was the first reporter to use sources to claim
the hunter Biden's laptop story in the New York Post
was Russian disinformation. Imagine that. I wonder if one of
the fifty one, you know, intelligence agents that signed that
letter or part of this too. And look, this is

(09:09):
what you need to know. First off, this the intelligence leaks.
These are leaks. They're not There was no official assessment
shared with the public by this administration at all. These
are leaks. These are things that nobody can confirm. Her
the ballid or not they're anonymous on New York Times
is also running with it. But the White House and
Caroly Levitt has denied that that's actually accurate, that that's true.

(09:31):
But the way, you know, it's not that what they're saying,
even though they just because they just want to demean,
question this president, attack whatever he's doing, without regard to logic,
without regard to you know, to consistency or whatever it
issue it is. We I know, maybe everyone else doesn't,
but there's no way that Israel agrees to a ceasefire

(09:52):
if they don't believe that that has been that that
has been set back years, there is no way they
would have done it. And if I know that about them,
I don't have to listen to CNN's anonymous reports of
Hunter Biden or now I ran in our effectiveness and
hitting those nuclear sites. I don't need New York Times,
I don't need CNN. What I need to know is
where is Israel? Because Benjamin ette Yahu said, America is

(10:14):
going to do what's best for America. We're going to
do it's best for us, and it happens to be
the case that there is a cease fire at the moment.

Speaker 2 (10:20):
Yeah, so CNN is claiming according to the Defense Department,
the initial assessment that we dropped fourteen thirty thousand pound
bombs and it didn't do anything. Makes makes sense to me.

Speaker 1 (10:33):
Yeah, I think that again. I said this out loud yesterday,
brought on the program. I said, how will the democrats
and the regime media try to frame this as a
failure because it's you know, they because they don't know
how to They don't know how to cover this president
in any other way. Everything's a failure. There's no good,
there's nothing he does. Fetterman's the only guy that breaks

(10:54):
the doesn't take the talking point memos. Everybody else does.
It was it was hard to think, how could they
frame it?

Speaker 2 (11:01):
Well, this is how Yeah, that's how they do it.
They didn't do any damage.

Speaker 1 (11:05):
By the way, the same CNN I looked at this
number a week or two ago said they're inside intel
information was that that I ran was years away from
any kind of nuclear capability, and now they're set back weeks. Yeah,
they were years away before he bombed, and now that
he did bomb, they're just weeks away.

Speaker 2 (11:25):
Weeks away. That's a lot of sense. So do you addrest?
All Right, We've got a lot to get to today
on the show. We didn't tell you who we're going
to be talking to or what we're going to be
talking about. Senator John Curtis, sen a member of the
Foreign Intelligence Committee, will join us. Congressman Burgess Owens will
also join us. We'll talk about the seasfire, get their
reaction to what's going on, plus your calls in comment.
It's great to be with you on this Tuesday Afternoon

(11:48):
The Rodden Greg Show on Utah's Talk Radio one oh
five nine knrs. How long have we been saying, Greg,
we told you so, the roundup of Iranians who are
in this country illegally. I think there were a eleven
round to dope over the weekend, five more today, Greg.
And these are not you know, great nextdoor neighbors, these
are killers. You name it right, well fair. The Federation

(12:12):
for American Immigration Reform, We've had them on the show,
talked about and use their information for years now. They
have long been warning us about the danger of sleeper
sales in this country. Joining us on our newsmaker line
to talk more about that is our good friend Ira
Mellman from the Federation for American Immigration Reform. Iira, how
are you welcome to the Rod and Gregg Show. Welcome back.

Speaker 9 (12:33):
I'm doing very well. Good afternoon, gentlemen.

Speaker 2 (12:35):
The new Commissioner of the Customs and Border Protection, his
name is Rodney Scott, has a dire warning about what
we may expect in this country. What is that warning? Ira?

Speaker 9 (12:47):
The warning is very clearly that there are sleeper cells
in the United States, that they are going to be
working either independently or the hes the Iranian government to
exact some sort of from the American people. You know,
they are obviously not happy with the way things have
gone there, and they have been planning on this for years.

(13:09):
I mean, we've had millions of people come into the
country illegally. You know, during the Biden administration, there were
two million guidaways. These are people that we know entered
the country, but we don't.

Speaker 2 (13:21):
Know who they are they.

Speaker 9 (13:23):
You know, you have to figure under the Biden administration,
all you got to do is turn yourself into the
border patrol. They process you and release you. The people
who made an effort to elude the border patrol, those
are the people we need to worry about because they
would not have been released into the country, and yet
they are here.

Speaker 4 (13:40):
You know.

Speaker 1 (13:41):
It's an interesting thing. NBC had reported, and I don't
know if any other news sources followed suit, but there
was a story that NBC said that an intermediary spoke
to President Trump during the G seven summit in Canada,
and the message from Iran is, if you get involved
in this war with Israel on this side, we will
release sleeper cells and commit acts of terror inside the

(14:04):
United States. Ira wouldn't you think at that very moment
with a country, if that's a true story, wouldn't you
think that that they're admitting the existence of and threatening
to do something if you don't comply with what they're saying.
Isn't that the moment that you just have to engage,
that they're acknowledging those sleeper cells and potentially threatening Americans

(14:25):
American lives. I mean, I think that that story isn't
getting enough play if that didn't really happen.

Speaker 9 (14:32):
Yeah, well, you know, as Rod pointed out, they are engaging.
They are actively out there looking for people they've made arrests,
including people with direct ties to the IRGC. But look,
I mean, we had, as I said, two million people
get into the country as got aways under the Biden administration.
You know, it's not that easy to find people. It's

(14:54):
a big country. You know, they're doing the best they can,
but you know, we put ourselves in this position not
just in the last administration, but for a much longer
time where we've had forest borders. Our enemies understand what
our vulnerabilities are and they are going to take advantage
of them. And you know, we just have to hope
that the FBI and other agencies here in the United

(15:16):
States have a good idea, you know, where to look
for some of these people and maybe to break up
some of these cells before anything happens. But we've created
a situation here where the American people are at risk
due to the neglect of our borders.

Speaker 10 (15:30):
You know.

Speaker 9 (15:31):
Tom Holman said, you know, just this morning, he confirmed
what Rodney Scott had said, and he said, Look, if
you don't have borders, this is what you need to expect.

Speaker 2 (15:41):
Let me ask you this, how big of a challenge
is this for the FBI and other intelligence agencies in
this country to first of all find these people and
then keep track of what they're doing. I mean, what
a monumental task that must be right now it is.

Speaker 9 (15:56):
Look, I mean that the FBI has you know, I
know there's been criticism over the US, but they have
done a good job of finding terrorists in this country
and getting to them before they commit any acts of terror.

Speaker 3 (16:08):
Uh.

Speaker 9 (16:08):
You know, let's just hope that they can keep their
their batting average at a thousand.

Speaker 2 (16:13):
Uh.

Speaker 9 (16:14):
But look, I mean, we have put ourselves in this
difficult situation.

Speaker 1 (16:18):
Uh.

Speaker 9 (16:18):
And you know it's not just the FBI. You have
local police departments all all across the country. UH that
they have eyes and ears on the streets. UH, they
have intelligence officers. So it's going to need to be
a concerted effort between federal, uh state, local governments and
law enforcement agencies to try to identify people who pose

(16:40):
the danger. But you know the bottom line is we
need to be really serious about finding these people and
getting them out.

Speaker 1 (16:47):
So what's your prediction? I I I would I would
not terrorists when if we change our lives, if we
if we live in fear, if we if we were
to change make decisions based on you know, even the
existence of these you know, terror cells. But what what
would you say to the American people? Are our listeners
that are listening, how should they absorb and digest this information?

(17:09):
And how do you think things play out from here?

Speaker 9 (17:12):
Yeah, I mean we've been dealing with this for a
long time, even before nine to eleven. But you know,
we have to take prudent steps. You know, we all
have to go through security at the airport, we all
have to go through security and many other sensitive locations.
Is just an unfortunate reality of you know, the times
in which we live, and it's made all the more

(17:33):
dangerous by the fact that we have had all these
people come into the country and we don't know who
they are and we don't know where they are. So
you know, obviously we all need to go about our lives,
but at the same time, we all need to be
a little bit cautious and hope that our law enforcement
agencies are doing their job.

Speaker 2 (17:52):
A great as always great to shall with you. Thanks Iira,
We'll talk to you again. Thank you, any pleasure anytime,
all right, Ira Melman, Federation for Amy and Immigration Reform.
Talking about those sleeper cells. I was surprised about one thing. Yesterday, Greg,
we came back into the country, were out of the country,
came through JFK. You know, I was surprised security wasn't
tighter yesterday, or maybe it was you don't notice it.

(18:13):
That maybe good security, but maybe they knew.

Speaker 1 (18:16):
You were coming so they rolled out the red carpet.

Speaker 2 (18:18):
But I was surprised it wasn't tighter. As a bit surprised,
you know, it is. It's kind of I told people
we were traveling with may take us a little bit
longer to get through things because of what happened over
the weekend.

Speaker 1 (18:28):
Well, it reminds me just yesterday we were just dumbfound
I still don't know the answer you bomb. I ran.
They are a major source of oil for at least
China and others. They were looking at a blockade of
the you know, straight of hormus or whatever, and the
price of a barrel of Crewdill went down, went down
seven and a half percent, went down even more today.

(18:49):
That seems counterintuitive, but I think there's a there's a
confidence out there, even in the market about what with
the leadership of Donald Trump.

Speaker 2 (18:56):
I would agree. All right, more coming up Utah under
John Curtis will join us on the Tuesday afternoon edition
of The Rod and Greg Show on Utah's Talk Radio
one oh five nine k n R S. It's good
to be bad.

Speaker 1 (19:07):
It's it's, it's it's it's a lot more enjoyable than
to bounce off the ideas and talk together. But let's
you get to sit in an easy chair. I'm back
to running everything. Yeah, I know, that's that's the other part.
That NASA like board was made for you, you know,
but I really did. I thought you'd have to sit
in this, you know, in the wingman seat here, and
I would sit in front of that. Now I've been
handling the board. The listeners will tell you I was

(19:28):
getting a little better. It's a little rocke at first.
I get better though, as time goes on, goes on.
But but yeah, you're I got into the stadium. You
beat me here and you were already loaded.

Speaker 2 (19:38):
Man, I'm excited.

Speaker 4 (19:38):
What you know?

Speaker 2 (19:39):
There's so much going on in the world. You know,
we're radio talk show host. How do we not get
on the air and talk about.

Speaker 1 (19:45):
It, ladies and gentlemen.

Speaker 2 (19:46):
He was almost called from from where we were in
Switzerland to say I gotta get on and say something.

Speaker 1 (19:51):
Well, he was actually emailing, and he was. And the
time difference is severe, not like eight hours, not like
we're around the same time of day. But you were,
you were staying engaged. I could tell.

Speaker 2 (20:03):
Well, people were asking me, what are you doing. I'm
saying on top of what's going on. I know you
can't drift too far in this joy.

Speaker 1 (20:08):
You cannot. You can. I swear the biggest stuff happens
when you're When I go, yeah, I don't know, Maybe
I'll go more often around he stays a little more sane.
I think that's crazy.

Speaker 2 (20:19):
All right, Well, A lot of people are wondering, Okay,
we've got the ceasefire. Donald Trump used some rather salty language,
as I'd be described earlier today with expressing his frustration
with more with Israel, I think this time than with Iran. Correct,
but our own Utah sender, John Curtis is a member
of the very powerful Foreign Relations Committee and he's joining
us on our Newsmaker line to talk about this. Sendor Curtis,

(20:41):
thanks for being with us today. Give us your assessment
of this ceasefire and what you think may come out
of this.

Speaker 11 (20:46):
Well.

Speaker 3 (20:47):
I think I was really pleased because, look, if he's
going to be the king man in this, these countries
have to do what they say they're going to do
when he gets commitments from them. So I think it
was totally appropriate for him. I was actually really pleased
to see that. And I don't know a person that's
not hoping that this piece holds.

Speaker 2 (21:06):
It is a big deal, so on.

Speaker 1 (21:09):
A very different scale. I know you've been a mayor,
I know you've been a member of the of Congress,
you've been you're a senator right now. I know that
in my role, my leadership role, I have found myself
in a moment where you're trying to bring two warring
parties together, you're trying to find common ground, you're trying
to get to good public policy, and it's some a
lawyer along the way. You in that role, they think
that they can take advantage of that from you. They

(21:30):
can maybe because you're so invested. And I feel like
when I watched President Trump gets as emotional as he
was or as frustrated as he was, I felt like
that was a moment where he let both sides know
this isn't going to work, and don't mistake what I've
been through and what I was willing to do to
find this piece as you're going to roll over top
of me. And I felt that way before. Have you

(21:52):
ever had that experience where you're trying to find a
solution and the people that you're working with try to
take advantage of you.

Speaker 3 (21:59):
I'm laughing because, as you will know, we're in the
middle of this.

Speaker 2 (22:01):
Big, beautiful bill and I.

Speaker 3 (22:05):
Still exactly the way you just described right now. And
if you're going to get to a good place, you
have to have partners you trust. And I think, in
a kind of a way, I think that was what
the President's saying is if I can't trust you, this
isn't going to work. And by the way, don't call
on me to come to your aid if I can't trust.

Speaker 2 (22:25):
You, Sunder, How would you describe right now the mood
in the nation's capital about the steps that President Trump
took over the weekend. I mean, I am even looking
at some of his sharpest critics on the Republican side,
people like Bill Crystal, John Bolton, are saying he did
the right thing, and that blew me away when I
heard them say that. I mean, how would you describe
the feeling in the nation's capital right now as we

(22:47):
try and work through all of this and get something
done with this.

Speaker 3 (22:51):
Well, I'll tell you what, that's a really good question,
because yesterday morning the critics were were out in force
and she need the president. Then all of a sudden
Iran made a their retaliation hit which was very very limited,
which they told us before they did it and was
not what anybody was worried about. And then all of

(23:12):
a sudden, this piece breaks out. And so the day
started very tenuous, very nervous, what will it ran do?
And ended with Holy cow? And I think we do
this a lot with the president. You look at something
after everything's done and you say, how did he know
it was going to work out this way? And I

(23:33):
think that's one of the things about President Trump is
every he frequently questioned at the beginning of something and
then you stand back at the end of it and
you say, Wow, was he doublucky or was he really good?
And I think everybody's standing back today saying, you know,
this is pretty masterful. A direct strike, no casualties to civilians,

(23:54):
no casualty to Americans. Clearly, like so often we complain about,
we don't our objective is when we do things like this,
we knew exactly what the objective was. We didn't go
a step beyond it. And there's a lot of things
about this that I think are textbook.

Speaker 1 (24:09):
A story. This night, well it's seeing a little bit
of play. But NBC over the weekend reported that that
somebody communicated to the President during the G seven summit
in Canada that Iran had intended to release sleeper cells
in the United States and commit acts of terrorism inside
the United States if the United States got involved. He
left that summit abruptly. Then you saw what we did

(24:30):
over the weekend wouldn't you say that the moment that
a country like Iran acknowledges the existence of sleeper cells,
the willingness to release them if you don't comply with
their wishes, that you're almost as a leader of a country,
you're oblige you're in at that point because if you said, okay,
we won't, then that card could be played. So why
you don't negotiate with terrorists? How do you think that

(24:52):
comment if it's true? I mean it was reported as
if it were true. Wouldn't that have just maybe made
it so that the United States had with the bunker
busters be involved because they couldn't comply with a threat
like that.

Speaker 3 (25:04):
Well yeah, so let me just maybe magnify that question
and say, what if they're on actually gets to the
point and have nuclear weapons and now they're threatening that
not sleep or seales, right, And that's why I think
the President felt like he had to act. And then
the second point that I would make, we were du
a classified briefing today and they've moved it until Thursday,

(25:25):
so I'll have more of this information later. But I
think as Americans, we don't give full credit to information
that the president has, and we tend to want him
to make our decision through his decision, through our lens,
and the reality of it is that the President of
the States will always have information the American people don't have,

(25:45):
and to some degree, when we elect them and put
them in that position, you're offering them quite a bit
of trust, because not all Americans can know everything that
the president knows.

Speaker 2 (25:56):
We're talking right now with Utah Center John Curtis, he
sits on the Floor and Relations Committee. It appears, Senator
that this whole discussion about the war powers actors somewhat
fizzled out. I mean, especially since news came out about
Clinton and Obama abusing it as well. And I don't
think it was an abuse of the powers. But are
you surprised how quickly this argument is fizzled?

Speaker 3 (26:18):
Well, listen, it kind of goes back to this philosophy,
like we all question the coach when he calls the
fourth down play to go for the touchdown, and then
as soon as he scores the touchdown.

Speaker 2 (26:32):
He's brilliant.

Speaker 3 (26:33):
Yeah, I think there's some of that. Had yesterday not
turned out the way that I did, I think those
critics would still be questioning the president's use of what
he did. But when you score the touchdown, particularly as
clean as this appears to be, you know it's not perfect,
but literally within hours to get a ceasefire in place,

(26:54):
this is a big deal. And I'll tell you what
American people really want in should aspire to, is that
we can have a normalized relationship with Iran, that the
running people and the people of Israel, and you know,
the region can prosper. And in this angle that we're
at right now, where Iran has sworn to destroy us

(27:17):
and Israel, you can't prosper. But if that dynamic has
changed because of what President Trump did, this is a
huge deal for generations will pay dividends in the region.

Speaker 2 (27:28):
U tell sunder John Curtis joining us on our any
our newsmaker lines. It's on the Foreign Intelligence Committee talking
about the ceasfire and his assessment of you know, it's
early to tell where this is going to go, but
I think a monumental move has been made. With the
result of what President Trump announced and ordered last week.

Speaker 1 (27:46):
We are light years ahead. Yeah where this world was
just a week ago.

Speaker 2 (27:49):
Yeah, all right, We've got a lot more to come.
It is the Tuesday afternoon edition of the Rod and
Greg show right here on Utah's Talk Radio one oh
five nine k n R. Right, we're just talking with Sender.
I heard us about the War Powers Act. Of course,
as soon as the attacks took place Saturday night in Iran,
the Democrats and members of Congress.

Speaker 12 (28:09):
Well, Wall, didn't you tell us, for that's a violation
of the law. You can't do that, right? Isn't interesting
how that talk is fizzled. As a matter of fact,
there were three, I think three or four constitutional experts
who in the Washington Post wrote the president had every
right to do what he had.

Speaker 1 (28:26):
To do, of course, and then we went over Obama
took that right of strike strategic strikes. Clinton did by
a lot like seven different nations they were born.

Speaker 2 (28:39):
So, but we have found one woman who says she
has the ultimate decision. It is up to her. Okay,
we need to depend on Jasmine Crockett.

Speaker 7 (28:47):
To understand enough about the Constitution to the extent that
I'm the one that is supposed to make a decision
or at least get both.

Speaker 1 (28:54):
So see she's supposed to make Can you imagine this?
We were trying to get to a two hundred and
fifty years We wouldn't be a two hundred and fifty
seconds if it were up to her. Honestly, you know,
you couldn't get her to make a cojent thought decision,
hard decision if it's this country's existence depended on. Yeah,
what a scary scenario.

Speaker 2 (29:11):
There is a great column today, I think it was today,
may have been yesterday from Miranda Divine in the New
York Post, and Miranda Divine it's spectacular and she wrote
the Trump's decision could carve his place in history as
the most courageous leader since Ronald Reagan. How many presidents
have known? You know, let's be honest, Greg and you know,
I know You've talked a lot about this in the

(29:33):
days that I've been gone, But we have been if
you think about it, we have been at war with
Iran since Jimmy Carter was in office, yes, nineteen seventy
nine nine, since there was a regime change in Iran
where the spiritual leaders took over, kept on and they
do it today. Death to America, death to Israel. You know,
they took the hostages during Jimmy Carter's time, he couldn't

(29:55):
get him out. Ronald Reagan came in and got him
out of there. But we have been fighting this war
with Iran for a long long time, you know, and
there hasn't been one leader in this country who has
had the guts to do something about it until Donald
Trump shows up and he said enough is enough? And
how much greg confidence and the sport. I'm looking for

(30:17):
respect that we now have for our military. Look what
these guys did on Saturday, Absolutely amazing guy of gals.
I don't want to be criticized, but look what they did.
It is absolutely amazing what they did.

Speaker 1 (30:29):
Yeah, the details of that mission were amazing. The thirty
plus hour round trip getting back to the United States,
never landing, fueling in the air, the different diversions and
the different decoys that went out, all that that went on.
It was amazing. And by the way, Iran's mad.

Speaker 13 (30:46):
You know.

Speaker 1 (30:46):
What you tell is their lips move. Okay, that's how
you know they're mad at the United States. So that's
not news.

Speaker 2 (30:52):
Samely, what I want to know is how do you
fly a plane for fifteen hours without going to the bathroom.
I think they had it microwaves.

Speaker 1 (30:58):
You should have seen it. They had it all. It
was really good.

Speaker 2 (31:01):
It was a really good setup. We played where they
could take a nap, Yes, flying up? How much is
the bomber like that?

Speaker 4 (31:08):
Yes?

Speaker 2 (31:08):
More to come the Rod and Gregg Show with you
on this Tuesday.

Speaker 1 (31:11):
Say with it.

Speaker 2 (31:15):
When it comes to American support for what the president
has done, when it comes to wiping out Iran's nuclear capabilities,
I see this poll today, a poll taking immediately afterward
of the president's decision shows that, uh, this is a
CNN SSRs pole show a substantial number fifty six percent

(31:36):
majority of the American surveyed disapprove of the attacks. That
that that catches me off guard a little bit.

Speaker 1 (31:43):
It doesn't mean too And I know, and I've been
I was reading up because when you said that, I was.
I know that that amongst Republicans, where we were supposed
to be splitting MAGA and splitting Republican support with the
decisions being made, that's not bearing true that there's a
high level of support for the president amongst republics. But
it looks like it looks like the numbers for the

(32:05):
general public is a little bit weaker in terms of
support or not. When you go into a plurality, it
looks like in a plurality there's some a little bit stronger.
But really there was more support for bombing Isis than
with Iran, which is like, well, I think Iran is
a little more dangerous, so I don't know.

Speaker 2 (32:24):
Yeah, the poll shows just forty four percent according to
the survey approve of the move, according to a poll
taken in the two days after Trumps surprise decision. And
you know the CNN report that we didn't do any damage,
it's just going to add fuel to the fire. They're
all going to say, see, it didn't do any good.
Why did we do this?

Speaker 1 (32:43):
Well, again, they had to find a way to make
to make this a failure, to try and to diminish
the accomplishment that it is. So that's what they're going
to try and do. But I'm going to tell you
right now we are a safer world because of it.
And again, when you look at the I just there's
my eyes and my I just know, I just know

(33:03):
that those bombs did not miss their mark, They did
not miss their targets. The damage that was done, the
fact that Israel is agreeing to a ceasefire with Iran,
none of this would be happening. You got a CNN
two weeks ago said they're in their anonymous intelligence US
intelligence is saying that they're not even capable of getting

(33:24):
nuclear weapons anytime soon. And then after the bombing, they're
saying they're weeks away. You just it's I mean, it
doesn't pass the smell test for me at all.

Speaker 2 (33:34):
Yeah. Well, apparently now the I think it's the House
has postponed an intelligence briefing on what happened, right the
administration push it back a few days. Democrats are going crazy.
You know what do you mean you postponed the media?
Are you lying to us about what happened? That's what
the Democrats are saying right now.

Speaker 1 (33:55):
Well, we interviewed Senator Curtis and he just mentioned it
as an aside that that briefing is going to come,
but it's not coming right now. It's not a you're
hiding anything.

Speaker 2 (34:04):
Well that's what you know what. That's what the Democrats
are going to say, Greg. They just want to they
how did they take this position? I mean, okay, it
didn't do enough damage. Well, if it had done a
lot of damage, would you be out there now saying well,
we did too much damage? I mean, come on, well,
the Democrats, Greg, I mean you look at they've condemned it,

(34:25):
they've side stepped it, they've offered support. What is their message, Democrats,
they can't find.

Speaker 1 (34:32):
They don't have it. They don't have a national leader,
they don't have a voice. Their only position is to
be opposed, without regard to logic or issue, opposed to
Donald Trump, whatever he does, whatever position he takes, they
have to be on the opposite side of it. It's
why they keep finding themselves on the twenty percent of
the twenty eighty issues is because they don't. They cannot
bring themselves to appoint to a president and his success.

(34:55):
They can't do it, and it's it's I think it's sad,
But again I I think that it's just creating more
cynicism with the public. It's why you know when you
have someone there's some movement with inside the house. Maybe
Burgess Well congressman will know about it. When we talked
to him.

Speaker 2 (35:10):
We hope to get him on here.

Speaker 1 (35:13):
They want to start these articles of impeachment again. They
did this twice in his first term. He got re elected,
which means seventy six seventy seven million people thought that
was a clown show before. You want to try it now,
it's even a greater farce. I mean, and let us
almost you almost want them to, because they just lose
any confidence of the American people.

Speaker 2 (35:32):
Well, they lost, they lost an effort to do so. Today,
Greg one hundred Democrats joined the Republican and said, no,
we are going to impeach him. Yeah. I mean, the
Democrats can't even get their own party together on any
issue like this, because it is so ridiculous. If you
look at what Bill Clinton did, what Barack Obama did
when it comes to these these attacks, these responses that

(35:53):
we have, Donald Trump does it and all of a
sudden he's violating the War Powers Act. And where were
the Democrats when Barack Obama and Bill Clinton were doing this?
Do you ever know where to be found?

Speaker 14 (36:04):
No?

Speaker 1 (36:05):
Look again, it's selective outrage, selective logic, selective outrage. And
I think that it's I think it's why it's important
to have shows like this and really just different information,
sources of information so that you can put things in
its proper perspective. I mean, all you need to know
about how to deal with a country that's pursuing nuclear
bombs is to see the failure of a flowery treaty

(36:27):
in nineteen ninety four between Bill Clinton and North Korea.
And know that that didn't work because we're there now
in nuclear country. So the treaties don't work. You have
to eliminate the source and the guy like John Kerry
who says, well, they don't forget how to build nuclear bombs.
They do if you kill the the If the scientistsn't

(36:49):
do it, did it are at room temperature? Now you
certainly do so. I mean, I just think that this
is whatever we wanted. I think he walked a very
fine line. No nation building, no stuck in there trying
to nation build like Afghanistan and Iraq, but aggressive enough
that we are destroying with those bunker busters their nuclear capability.

(37:10):
And I'm sorry. You can have as many anonymous sources
as you want, CNN New York Times, You're not going
to convince me that we aren't. I mean, the Israel
intelligence Israeli Intelligence agency was saying years they're not making
that up. They're not why it's not in their best
interest to make up something like that.

Speaker 2 (37:30):
No, So why is it greg too that Iran gets
no criticism? And you know, since this twelve day war
started twelve days ago, Israel attacks military installations, right. I
mean they didn't go after the general population in Tehran. Okay,
but Tehran can fire missile after missile into Tel Aviv
and Jerusalem and no one says anything about them. The US,

(37:54):
in its attack over the weekend, didn't go after any
civilian population centers in all of this. They went after
the three nuclear sites in Iran. So you know, there
were no no, non, no civilian casualtieds that we know
of an Iran. And really everyone's saying, well, there are
reports that we didn't do any damage, and we you know,

(38:15):
it only set them back a few weeks. How are
you going to know Iran? You can't trust a thing
they say. Even if they led us onto the site,
I don't think we'd be able to get the true picture.
So everybody saying, well, we need a real, honest, true
assessment of what happened. I don't think you get it
out of Iran.

Speaker 1 (38:31):
I really, well, you were going to get it when
you had air superiority, when you were able to fly
over and do anything you wanted. And that time has
come and that time has gone. And I and I
think though that the look, this was an act of deterrence.
This wasn't an act of war. This was a strategic strike.
We let Israel do the work that they need to

(38:51):
do that for the things they couldn't do, there was
this this you know, this bombing, and this was an
effort of deterrence. And I think we move forward from here.
And look, I don't trust Iran at all.

Speaker 2 (39:02):
No, I don't know how you can rig you can't.

Speaker 1 (39:05):
And just understand they want to still they still hate America,
they still hate Israel and act accordingly. But I'll tell
you nobody can argue I think rationally at least that
this regime in this country hasn't been weakened maybe as
worse as weakened, as much as it's ever been since
they took over in seventy nine.

Speaker 2 (39:25):
And this fear, well they're going to shut down this
straight so horror moods. That's going to only hurt Iran's economy. Well,
because their economy depends on oil. China gets most of
their oil from Iran. So are they going to tell
the Chinese, Well, sorry, guys, we're mad at the US,
so we are going to send you anywhere commute.

Speaker 1 (39:42):
The funniest part about yesterday was that publicly, China said
to Iran, no, you're not. They did. They literally said,
you're not going to do that. Yeah, and so he's
they have been isolated. They've been isolated by the Air
of States. Oh, they've been isolated by China. You know,
even I guess the story goes that Putin asked Trump,

(40:02):
do you want me to help you with Iran? He said, no,
I don't need help with iron I need help with you.
I need help with you.

Speaker 2 (40:07):
Okay.

Speaker 1 (40:08):
So I don't think Iran has a lot of friends
out there right now. And I know anybody that's trying to,
you know, stoke fear or make America feel insecure in
the decisions that have been made. Just keep score of
what's been happening in this world and know that we're
stronger today than we were before.

Speaker 2 (40:26):
Yeah, buy away. Well, we want to hear from you
the listener today eight eight eight five seven o eight
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Congressman Burgess Owens. Have not been able to get him
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(40:49):
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is America doing and Donald Trump doing the right thing

(41:11):
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We'll get to your calls and comments coming up. We're
talking about the attacks and the Iranian nuclear sites. Late
Saturday night assessments are well. There's one report today from CNN.
Unnamed sources are saying it didn't set back Iranian's program
that far. Others are saying yes it did. That debate

(41:33):
we can get into that. We want to get your
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and say hey, Rod, or use our talkback line and
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the right hand corner where you can do that. Let's
go to the phones. David is in Salt Lake City. Now, David,
I understand you are a former Air Force pilot who

(41:55):
worked with Iranian pilots at one time. You've got a
different perspective on this. What are your thoughts on and
that's David.

Speaker 15 (42:03):
Yeah, thank you for taking my call. Yeah, I'm seventy four.
When I went to pilot training nineteen seventy three to
nineteen seventy four, I forty percent of my class were
Iranian student pilots. They were going to be in the
Shaw's Air Force. At that point in time, I barely
knew where I Ran was. And within a few years

(42:29):
the Shaw was deposed, the Radical Islamis took over, and
all I have heard about for the rest of my
adult life, which is most of my adult.

Speaker 1 (42:39):
Life, is I ran this.

Speaker 15 (42:41):
I ran that, what are we going to do about
their newps? You know, handwringing, gnashing teeth, And I'm tired
of it. I'm just tired of hearing about Iran. I'm
tired of hearing politicians saved the guy to do something
they can't have it and never do anything. And finally
Donald Trump did it. And I'm just glad and I

(43:02):
hope we can stop talking about Iran here, here.

Speaker 2 (43:07):
Here, here, David. And you're absolutely right. What was the
thank you for your call? David. The comment from a
former Democratic strategist who came out, I think over the
weekend said Kamala Harris would never have done anything like this. No,
she would know. Neither did Barack Obama, Bill Clinton, George W. Bush,
none of them did.

Speaker 1 (43:26):
No, they would they would not have. And there was
a there was a local he had a long history
of being a chief of staff for a Democrat member
of Congress. He's in the media now and he delayed
writing the post till later, but he said it is
just a shame that we as Americans cannot recognize and
celebrate victory and a successful mission from the United States

(43:48):
and this president that's made us safer and we can't
and he says he and he even added he said
the Trump arrangement syndrome within the Democrat Party, his party,
I'm out of control.

Speaker 2 (43:58):
Yeah, go back to the phones.

Speaker 1 (43:59):
Let's go Kyle and bountiful. Kyle, thank you for holding.
Welcome to the Ron and Greg Show.

Speaker 16 (44:06):
Hey, Greg, it was good to seeing you at the convention.
You know that I was gay talking to you.

Speaker 1 (44:10):
Oh good, Yes, good to hear from you.

Speaker 11 (44:15):
Yeah.

Speaker 16 (44:15):
So I just wanted to say that I think that,
you know, Trump has been a changed man since the
assassination attempts, and especially when you know his life was
preserved by God. And I just wanted to mention that
the uh when after the strikes and and I can
I can't see enough about how well everything was orchestrated

(44:38):
even before to you know, total silence and and kind
of a ruse in a way of not you know,
so I ran didn't know like when what was going
to happen. But anyway, Trump goes up there to the
to the podium with Marco Rubio, Pete Heig's death and JD.
Vance and he's talking about the operation whatever. But I

(45:01):
just think there was just a solemnity of the moment
and then he said, and it seemed like it was
somewhat off script. He says, and we want to give thanks,
and he said, of God, we love you. And his
at that moment, his voice cracked and I just I mean,
it hit me to my center and I just started

(45:22):
crying because I felt in my heart.

Speaker 17 (45:25):
That he is being led by God like he does
love God. And when he says God, we love you,
that was to me, that was such a telling and
very touching moment that a leader of the free will
world would say that and acknowledge God and give thanks.
So I just wanted to share that with you.

Speaker 2 (45:44):
Well, Kyle, thank you very much. And I didn't see
the speech, Bud.

Speaker 1 (45:48):
And it was very emotional and he and he evoked
the Lord at the very end, God bless you know,
I ran, God bless America, but God bless the world
and and and God, you know, we love you. Anyway,
it was it's so you have seen this man change.
A lot of them is the same, and now a
lot of them is actually better. He said, well you
were gone. There was a saying where they said, you're
putting up this flagpole at the White House, why don't

(46:10):
you do it before? You got I want to before,
but you know, I used to be the hunted. Now
I'm the hunter. Okay, So he has time to do
a few things. He didn't have time in the first term. Okay,
let's go back to the calls. Well, let's go to
Casey in West Valley City. Casey, thank you for holding.
What's your take, sir?

Speaker 13 (46:28):
So last week Greg, I called and I said, you know,
Trump should go full cold war, load up to B
fifty two's fly him over there and call for an
unconditioned I remember that he took it a step further,
and you know what, he took the bully and punched
him in the face and said, okay, are you done now?
And sometimes that's what has to happen. You just got
to knock him down and ask him are you finished?

(46:50):
Or do you want some more? And that's what he
did and I love it.

Speaker 18 (46:53):
I completely agree with it.

Speaker 2 (46:54):
All right, that's a good point. More now we've got
it if you.

Speaker 1 (46:58):
Want itul way to describe it, because I know those
moments and I'm telling you that is the moment. Do
you want more? Or are you good? And they said
we're good.

Speaker 2 (47:06):
Yeah. Let's go to Charlie and Orum tonight here on
the Rodding Greg Show, Charlie weigh in on this.

Speaker 10 (47:11):
What do you say, Hey, guys, I just wanted to
make a point actually David almost made it. He basically
was alluding to the fact that we used to be
aullies with Iran back in the early seventies, and it
was not until seventy nine when the Islamic Republic came in,
and that is when, and that is who started this

(47:34):
notion that America and israelmost died. Right. So, I think
the Islamic Republic leaders, the people that are in there
now are not friends of the US. They are not
friends of Israel. They will never be friends of either.
But the Iranian people, which I think have just been
beaten into submission and now have an opportunity to react,

(47:57):
to raise up and reclaim their their sovereignty, I think
is something to keep in mind. So we can't unilaterally
say that the Iranian hate the United States. I think
that's a step too far.

Speaker 1 (48:14):
Charlie, you bring up a really good point. I have
a dear friend who actually escaped Iran as a show
as the fallish of the Shaw happened, and he was
showing me photographs of that country, Tehran. It was it
looked like Manhattan and New York City in the late
SEVENI city country, And so I appreciate what you're saying,
my question is because I don't I don't think the
United States will engage in regime change or try to

(48:35):
nation build. Well, the people themselves with a weakened regime
that's currently in control of Iran, do you think they're
going to take Do you think they'll change it on
their own?

Speaker 10 (48:44):
Well, I think I think that they are. I think
that they are hopeful that that's going to happen. I mean,
I think there needs to be another leader that they
can stand behind. And I've seen a lot of posts recently.
I have quite a few friends that were firmly formerly
from Persia as they used to call it, and and they,
you know, they they've all become US citizens in the meantime.

Speaker 2 (49:07):
But I think that.

Speaker 10 (49:10):
I think that if a leader emerged, and I know
that the Shah's Sun has been posting a lot more
recently because I've seen a lot of those posts, and
I think he's hoping that the that the that the
people of Iran will will rise up against the current regime.
And I think if they did that, you know, we
could see another another ally in the Middle East. But

(49:34):
I think, you know, it's really up to them. I mean,
it just depends on how badly they're beaten down and
what kind of control is still is still held over them.
But I mean, it would be wonderful if they if
they were able to kind of take the reins and
create a beautiful country.

Speaker 2 (49:48):
Again, that would very good points, Trilie, And I think
that's a key question. Greg is all right, we've get
the ceasefire. If it holds, they do, what happens now?
I mean, will people in Iran say, you know, we've
been under this religious zealot regime since what nineteen seventy nine,
as Charlie just mentioned, we don't like that, We want
to move on. Where do we go? What happens next?

(50:11):
Who knows?

Speaker 1 (50:12):
Yeah, I think that Iran's insecure. The regime is because
or they wouldn't agreed to the ceasefire because I think
they were worried about it.

Speaker 2 (50:19):
All Right, more coming up It is the Rodden Greg
Show right here on Utah's Talk Radio one oh five nine.

Speaker 1 (50:24):
Knrs all the efforts that have gone on this twelve
day war, which you know, a Democrat couldn't even get
close to attempting. They can't. We can't count Balance and
California and Utah in twelve days, little you know, solve
a problem between Israel and Iran in twelve days. Let's
go to our callers. Let's go to Ron and Clearfield. Ron,
thank you for holding. Welcome to the Rodd and Gregg Show.

Speaker 19 (50:46):
Yes, so, I'm by no LANs a military expert. But
I saw overhead aerial photos of the bomb, the bunker,
the Fajad or however you say, yes, and they have
here to just be holes in the ground. And if
those bunker busters, like as long as we're attacking the military,

(51:08):
they're for sure going to get an unconditional surrender. They
can't afford to lose much of their military.

Speaker 2 (51:16):
Yeah, that's true, that's true.

Speaker 11 (51:18):
Doubt and if that's what Trump truly wants without injuring
the Iraqi people or Iranian people, Yeah, yeah, well.

Speaker 2 (51:29):
And I think Israel has attacked the military basis. I mean,
I understand for every missile that is launched from Iran
toward Israel, the Israelis know immediately where it came from,
and they typically send out their fighter jests to take
it out, so they you know, I think what Trump
has done said to Israel, you take care of the
military basis, you don't have the capability to take care

(51:52):
of the nuclear facilities, will take care of that. And
I think that's exactly what happens Saturday night.

Speaker 1 (51:57):
A lot of the stories that we're emerging were that
us their homes, like where these military generals and scientists
lived when this strike happened, When when Israel was attacked,
they were going after them where they lived. They were
sending fake messages to convene for an emergency a meeting
with their generals and their top military leaders to at a
location that Masade was aware of and the Israel was

(52:19):
able to destroy. So there was a there's a lot
of there's a lot of work that went into that
twelve day war that I think has crippled the Iranian
you know government, their their regime, and I'm just I'm
not gonna I'm not going to buy into, you know,
all the Democrats wanting to find some line of logic

(52:39):
to try and undermine or question what's happened here. I
think it's a it's an absolute victory, and we still
have cards. If they don't behave there's more coming.

Speaker 2 (52:47):
Yeah, We've got a few more cards up our sleeve.
We certainly us you know, a caller earlier. I think
it was Kyle mentioned the precision of the US military
in carrying out this. I mean, not only were we
dropping these bunker buster bus but we had the Navy
firing ballistic missiles at the other facilities. The precision that
was pulled off on this. Think back, Greg, Now you

(53:08):
were just a puff. But go back to seventy nine
when we had Americans being held by the religious zealous
in Tehran. Jimmy Carter put together a military operation to
go rescue them, and it blew up in his face
the desert. They wrecked in the desert. And what a
low point that was for America. That first of all,
the frustration that we felt and I remember living you know,

(53:31):
this is where the nightline, you know, and the frustration
we couldn't go get them, We couldn't get them out.
It was frustration. Ronald Reagan shows up. You know, they're
all afraid of Reagan because they thought he was a
crazy actor who just pushed the button at a moment
snown this shows up and they let him go. We
were you know, that was an embarrassing low point for America.

(53:52):
And now we have this and what they pulled off,
and what frustrates the Democrats even more. And we were
just listening to Byron York on Fox News a moment ago.
The Democrats promised for years through legislation that we would
move the American embassy in Israel from Tel Aviv to Jerusalem,
but we never did it.

Speaker 1 (54:10):
Nope.

Speaker 2 (54:11):
Donald Trump shows up and he doesn't. How many American
presidents have said Iran is a threat, We've got to
take care of him, nobody did it. Donald Trump shows
up and he takes care of it. We played Yes,
the Democrats are just so frustrated. They're saying to themselves, well,
he's doing it. Well, we couldn't, well, whose fault is that?

Speaker 1 (54:30):
Yep, And we played out We played a montage of
those very speeches of Biden, of Obama, Clinton, Hillary Clinton
speaking about all these things as she was a candidate,
what she would do bamb Iran if necessary. None of
them had, none of them were ever able to do it.
Hillary Clinton is the Secretary of State, and then Obama

(54:52):
or Biden they could not handle or deal with with Iran.
And the caller that called in and said, I'm so
tired of hearing it and we had al day war
and I'm telling you if the piece the cease fire
does not hold, if I ran somehow feels a little
wind behind the wings, they'll get those wings clipped pretty quick.
I think. I think there's been a pretty clear standard

(55:15):
established now that didn't exist a week ago.

Speaker 2 (55:18):
You know, the question I have, how afraid should we
be of Iran? Are they a paper tiger? And we
really don't know it yet.

Speaker 1 (55:24):
You know, I think that they I think that we
run the risk of you know, some of the well, no,
just the terrorist side of it, where where so many
were let in by the Biden administration. And I do
believe those I do believe there are sleeper cells in
this country, and I do believe that they could do
something on that front. You don't change your life for it.
You don't live in fear because of it. You don't
make decisions based on fear. But that's about what they

(55:46):
have is that. But they don't have anything significant. I
don't think there's anything that they could do. The air
superiority so quickly that in that engagement, once you have
air superiority, it's not even the the Maverick Top Gun
movie where you don't have to fly low behind below
the air. You know, the missile surface to air missiles.

(56:06):
You don't have to fly that low because they're all gone.
You just fly You just take the lazy bomby bomber
and eat us, you know, peanut butter and jelly sandwich,
and then just hit the bomb. Yeah and done. You
don't even have to worry about it.

Speaker 2 (56:17):
All right. We've got some comments on our talk back
line and we'll share those with you coming up right
here on the Rod and Greg Show and Utah's Talk
Radio one O five nine knrs. The beauty is if
he can't call, or if you call and you can't wait,
but you want to weigh in on the conversation, this
is an easy way to do it. Here are the
couple of comments coming in about our discussion about the
attacks on Iran and the nuclear facilities.

Speaker 15 (56:39):
China took notice, and that is what is most important
in all of this.

Speaker 10 (56:44):
They know Trump means what he says.

Speaker 2 (56:48):
I think the world is learning that Donald Trump means
what he says. You get that feeling, you.

Speaker 1 (56:53):
Know, these news cycles go so fast. When I woke
up this morning when he was so mad, I was like,
oh my gosh, I would not want to be Israel
or I ran right now. They represented something to him
yesterday that they did not do. Man, I would not
want to be them. And I'll tell you what. Before
we could even get on the air, everybody's like, we're good,
We're good. Okay, never mind, didn't mind.

Speaker 10 (57:12):
What was that?

Speaker 2 (57:13):
Who did that?

Speaker 12 (57:14):
Hey?

Speaker 1 (57:14):
It was them, not us. I mean, it is unbelievable.
I can't even get into the details of it because
it's already solved. They're already saying they're already running back
from that. Whatever they were doing, they couldn't stop fighting.
They and I thought there would be such a great
segment on that whole thing, but it was just it's
already yesterday's news.

Speaker 2 (57:30):
It reminds me if you have children, and reminds me
of two kids, right, and one of them's got to
get the last kick in or the last punch in.
And that's what happened. And Trump said he was like,
mom and dad, enough of this. It's not gonna happen anymore. Stop.

Speaker 1 (57:44):
You're just gonna stop now, okay quick, I'm gonna turn
this car right around. We're done with this vacation. I'm
not gonna put up with it anymore. You're lunaticants. So
I'm just telling you that the public way that happened.
But I just thought, Okay, this is going to be
a great segment. We're going talk about what happened now.
But it was all done before we even got on
the air, because everyone's like, okay, we're sorting.

Speaker 2 (58:06):
Here's another one of our comments on the tech bug line.

Speaker 20 (58:09):
There's a Steve from late in Utah with an official
response from the d n C on the bombing.

Speaker 1 (58:19):
I think that's a donkey.

Speaker 15 (58:20):
We need more Biden diapers.

Speaker 3 (58:22):
Uncle sorows.

Speaker 2 (58:25):
Was that a donkey?

Speaker 1 (58:26):
I thought it was a donkey, but then they needed.

Speaker 2 (58:28):
More than he raised In there, he's shaking his head
and he doesn't know what what Steve was saying.

Speaker 1 (58:33):
Donkey, I think I think that was donkey. But they
need they need Biden diapers purchased by the Soros fan
which is which sounds on brand. Sounds very on brand.
I think our listeners that was a very good imitation.
Well there's the rich little Democrats.

Speaker 2 (58:49):
Yeah, there there is still you know, the Democrats still
haven't figured this out. I mean, we had the attempt
today by what who is the guy in Congress who
got kicked out during the President's addressed to Congress Green, Texas.
Congressman Green immediately this morning, shows up on the floor
of the House says impeachment. I'm introducing a resolution of impeachment. Yep.

(59:11):
They vote on it. One hundred Democrats want with what
the Republicans said said nowhere, we are going to clowns.

Speaker 4 (59:18):
They do.

Speaker 1 (59:18):
They're at least they're at least minimally self aware that
they know that all of this is a clown show,
all of it. You can't take what's happened here, this
success and and find a way to describe it as
a negative without looking like a clown.

Speaker 2 (59:31):
Yeah, you've got you've got Green doing this. AOC over
the weekend said, well, I've read the Constitution. I think
it's a War Powers violation and he should be called
on the carpet for it. Jasmin Crockett out there saying today,
you know, I'm the only one who can really make
the decision on if he can violate the War Powers Act.
I mean, the American people are looking at these people

(59:51):
and laughing.

Speaker 1 (59:52):
It is it's and and yeah, it's it's.

Speaker 2 (59:54):
They're laughing and they're about to They could have liked
some wacko to run New York City. Who wants the
city to run grocery store.

Speaker 1 (01:00:02):
So Chris Cuomos finally figured it out. His brother's losing
to a socialist, and so he's on the air going,
Chris Como's going, we're gonna Democrats are gonna elect an
open socialist. What's gone on? What's happened to this party?
Oh you're noticing? You caught it? Now, imagine that it
took your brother running and losing, uh to catch that.

Speaker 2 (01:00:22):
And he's Jarney Sanders AOC. I know the other women
in Congress, they're all socialists. You just woke up to
find out the Democrats are electing socialism.

Speaker 1 (01:00:31):
Yeah, he's he hasn't been up on things as close
as you'd think, not at all.

Speaker 2 (01:00:37):
You know, Like I said, we'll have to see where
all this goes. We hope the sease fire holds, you know.
And after Donald Trump's rant this morning where he dropped
not a bunker buster but an F bomb.

Speaker 1 (01:00:48):
Yes, it was a different kind of bomb. It was
over Israel and Iran.

Speaker 2 (01:00:52):
Yeah, maybe we shouldn't argue with this guy where this
all goes. Who knows and will stay on top of
it for you? In the coming weeks. Now, in the
next hour, congress Burgess Owens has reached out and said, whoops,
made a mistake. Guys, I'll be with you following the
news update, We'll get Congressman Owens.

Speaker 1 (01:01:06):
It's thoughts on I can't wait to hear his take.

Speaker 2 (01:01:08):
Yeah, all right, that's coming up our number three of
the Rod and Greg shows. Stay with us. We continue
to follow the reaction and the follow up to what
happened Saturday night when the US said Okay, we've had enough,
We're going to take out it runs nuclear facilities debates

(01:01:30):
today over the effectiveness of this. Now, we had reported
earlier Greg that CNN had learned that these reports maybe
set it back a few weeks, but not a lot.
But you're saying, now, who was it that Brett Hume
points out something interesting about this new report tonight?

Speaker 1 (01:01:46):
Right, Yes, and again, all these little details. It's amazing
how they get omitted in the CNN reports. This leaked
intel was what they categorize as low confidence intel, so
all the narrative around it is then breakfaced with this

(01:02:07):
preliminary intelligence assessment is deemed low confidence. So but you
knew it was crazy when CNN was saying just I
think on the nineteenth of June they don't have any
ability to have any weapons at all. And now today
they're saying, oh, they're only three weeks behind getting more
being able to be up and running, or three months.
I mean you can't say both. I mean they both

(01:02:29):
can't exist same time.

Speaker 2 (01:02:30):
Well, earlier we had a chance to talk with Utah
Senator John Curtis about the ceasefire. Joining us now on
our newspeaker line with a different perspective from the House
is Congressman Burgess Owens Burgess, How are you welcome to
the rod In Greg Show. Thanks for joining us.

Speaker 4 (01:02:43):
Burgess, Hey, guys, Hey guys, looking forward to chad with
you once again.

Speaker 2 (01:02:47):
But you are all right, give us your take on
this ceasefire and what the President had to say today
about his frustration. So he was mad? He was mad?

Speaker 4 (01:02:54):
Burgess, Well, you know, I think the key the key
to it is now we realize that there's an adult
in room and an ential world understands that President Trump
is a man.

Speaker 11 (01:03:06):
Of his word.

Speaker 4 (01:03:07):
Uh, He's he's a genius when it comes to negotiation,
and big part of that is making sure that everyone
knows that he's he's not gonna be blussing. So this
is this is a remarkable step UH and UH in relationships.
Really not only would out without allies, our friends, but
out enemies to realize we have someone who's willing to
bring the very best of the best of our of

(01:03:27):
our country, the force of the United States, UH air
Force and UH and it's it's gonna it's really, I think,
going to change a lot of the equation as we before,
to say the least congressome.

Speaker 1 (01:03:37):
Maybe you heard us discussing this before we brought yourn,
but I was wondering, how would the Democrats and the
regime media try to paint this as a failure. Well,
the way they're doing it is they're saying that actually
the bombs that were dropped didn't hit anything of import.
There are just a couple of months away from being
right back where they were before the drums the bombs
dropped at all. What are you hearing on Capitol Hill?

(01:03:58):
What's the what's the real the deal? I don't know
that you're you're subject to intelligence reports, but what's the
what's the buzzet inside the beltwagh about this? These bombings?

Speaker 4 (01:04:08):
Well, we were actually supposed to have a hearing a
discussion this happening, but where they called it off. But
what we're what we're hearing just pretty much like everyone else,
is that this is a very big success. And I
think we have to keep in mind that the Democrats
are just continually wrong and everything they do, at some
point it catches up where where they're not looked at

(01:04:30):
as being incredible anymore. And I don't know if they
understand that, But what what President Trump has just done, uh,
first of all, to go in there and make this
big hit, to do it in the way that they
did it, the street of the strategy that went with it,
it is, it's respected from anyone who understands what it
took to make that happen. So as far as as
far as we have heard here, it's a very very successful,

(01:04:53):
uh hit.

Speaker 1 (01:04:55):
It is.

Speaker 2 (01:04:55):
It is, no questions, can be very.

Speaker 4 (01:04:57):
Very difficult, if at all possible, for them to rebound
to back to where they were before. So President Trump
has done what we're supposed to do. And now now
they're now there's a ceasefire, which wasn't gonna happen for this.
So I'm not very happy with, uh with I'm very
proud to say the least. So what our country has
done over the last last.

Speaker 2 (01:05:14):
Few days, Thrckerson owens, where do we go from here? Now?
I mean, let's say this ceasefire holds, what's next or
what do you think should happen next? Here?

Speaker 4 (01:05:24):
This is a total reset. Keep in mind what President
Trump is able to do is that the art of
the deal is find out what's the win win for everybody.
We're not trying to go in and and and change cultures.
We're trying to figure out how can every culture have
what we all want to have. We want to have peace,
want to have the ability to go out and build dreams.
And and what happened with the abraham A court was

(01:05:44):
that was exactly what he had done the first term.
Now that Rand has been taking off the plate as
this this this terrorists, the evil terrorists factor that they
were imagine the conversation they can start having and the
partnerships they can start having. And not only that, but
but they understand there's the respect though is will is
not say quote liked a lot by some of the
Arab nations. They are respected and they bring value to

(01:06:07):
the place. So I think that we have a reset
now to truly not only brings peace of that area,
but develop relationships to the United States that we've never
had before. And of course that's gonna be a that's
gonna be a hit to China in Russia. But President
Trump can make that happen because they know relationship with him,
someone who's has strength, who has the courage, and has

(01:06:29):
a vision, is going.

Speaker 2 (01:06:30):
To be benefit to them. Let me ask you this, Congressman,
the preliminary poll show, and you can't believe polling showing
that the American people do not are not in favor
of what Congress or what President Trump did. I have
a tough time believing that.

Speaker 13 (01:06:44):
Do you.

Speaker 4 (01:06:46):
I have a very tough time believing it, because, first
of all, you look at the polls before that, I
think close to seventy percent realized that Iran having a
nuclear bomb was not going to be a good thing
for elious common sense. So, and I'll say the other thing,
there's something within our DNA. We love to see our
country winning. We love to see uh us being looked

(01:07:06):
at it with respect. Once again, it is it is
intus infectious uh if that if that's the right word
for it, it's it's also contagious, and that is we
we're seeing our country being looked at in a way
that it feels good for us. It's if we're proud
to be Americans. We're proud to see our young young
men and women go out and do the things they

(01:07:26):
just did over this last last, last two days. So
I don't believe the polls that that are after this
success is against what we did. I think I think
in this in this case here, America is going to
be looking at ourselves a lot and a lot more pride,
and I want to be new. Next guys, is get
this one big beautiful bill through. We add the one
big beautiful bil to everything we're doing right now, and

(01:07:46):
just watch out for the next the next year or so.

Speaker 1 (01:07:49):
Okay, the majority later soon says they don't get to
leave for for the July holiday unless they get it done.
Does that mean we get something done by for the
July at least out of the Senate?

Speaker 4 (01:07:59):
Cal Well, I believe there's a good chance at it,
uh from what I understand Again, and we're still waiting
to get the bill back from the Senate, But my
understanding is that once we get it back, we'll be
staying around to make sure it works until we get.

Speaker 2 (01:08:14):
Get through it all.

Speaker 4 (01:08:15):
That's kind of the that's kind of the thought process
right now, and we're still waiting to see how it
works out. But uh, this is very important for the
president to do it by July fourth. Uh, and you
think about the success the miracles were experiencing so far,
the bills are put through with one or two those
we get it through the July fourth. You talk about
momentum and pride and not only from the American people,

(01:08:37):
but as a congress, how we're going to feel about
ourselves by pulling this off the way we did it,
by pulling together the team. So it's it's it's it
can be an interesting next next next week or so
to figure out.

Speaker 2 (01:08:46):
How we how we pull this one off for sure,
Well hopefully we can and hopefully you'll be a part
of it as well. Congressman is always great chatting with you.
Thanks for joining us tonight.

Speaker 4 (01:08:56):
Thanks guys, all of that.

Speaker 2 (01:08:57):
Thank you all right, coresg I mean just Owens join you.
You know, yeah, I'm just thinking about this as as
Congressman Owens mentioned this, all the things that are going
on right now and the pressure on Donald Trump to
get them all done, the big beautiful bill. Yes, what's
going on in the Middle East? I mean he's like
the ever already bunny. I mean he never stops. Greg,

(01:09:21):
How does he do this?

Speaker 11 (01:09:22):
Well?

Speaker 1 (01:09:22):
Can can do we have? Can I play this clip
right here? It's twenty seven seconds right. This is a
Secretary of Treasury Scott Besson. And I'll tell you he
says it with such ease, like la la la. But
these are things that even any one of them, you
would it's pretty hard to comprehend. You you did have
a listen to this.

Speaker 14 (01:09:40):
Had a very successful lunch meeting with the senators. I
think that we are on track for a hopefully for
about this Friday, for July fourth, for the tax bill.
President is doing peace steals, tax deals, trade deals so
done a piece steal. I think we'd have the tax

(01:10:03):
ill done by July fourth, and then we can finish
with the trade deals.

Speaker 1 (01:10:09):
And then we just finished with the global trade realignment
and deals where we actually get we don't get tariffed
out out of the wazoo and we actually get to
export things, make things, send them overseas with countries.

Speaker 2 (01:10:20):
You know, trade deals, tax deals, deal after deal after deal,
we are comprehending?

Speaker 1 (01:10:25):
Are we comprehending when he says that so casually the
amount of work and political heft, it takes each one
of those categories. It's amazing.

Speaker 2 (01:10:33):
You know, maybe he was a little tired this morning
when he walked out and dropped the balm on. He's
just tired, man, he was.

Speaker 1 (01:10:41):
I could tell I could see it. But I'm telling
you it was the right thing. I think everybody sobered
up pretty quick when they saw how angry he was.
And I and I'll tell you that there was a
worry that the Israel was going after more targets in Iran,
and I think that was in real time, and he
said they better not. And I think they dropped on
little one and turned around and whoops. They did a

(01:11:03):
little wing wave to I ran on the way out.

Speaker 2 (01:11:06):
On the way out, they did all right. More coming up.
They're Rod and Gregg Show with you right here on
Utah's Talk Radio one oh five nine KNRS.

Speaker 1 (01:11:13):
I told all of our listeners that you were A
not going to come back as scheduled, and B when
you did, you would have Barry White itis. And you
would not because you can't even go to a movie
theater without getting sick. So I was just and it's
been like one hundred percent chance that you are always
coming back sick with that very white itis. And so

(01:11:34):
here you are Tuesday morning. You got in way late
last night.

Speaker 2 (01:11:37):
Yeah, yeah, well yeah, I did a story to share
with you.

Speaker 1 (01:11:40):
I did not disclose to our listening UITs where you traveled,
but I thought maybe you would, because you know, it's
not everyone gets to go there.

Speaker 2 (01:11:47):
This has been a dream on my wife for a
long long time.

Speaker 10 (01:11:49):
Yea.

Speaker 2 (01:11:50):
Her ancestors are from Switzerland. Okay, okay. Years ago when
we went to pick up our son, he was in
the south of France on his LDS mission. We had
a chance to go to It's a limb but it
was like in one day and out. I mean, it
was uck quick trip. So thanks to the great team
at Columbus Morris Mordoc, they had put together a trip
not for us, but you know, for anyone who wanted

(01:12:10):
to be a part of it, and eight to a
tour of Switzerland. So we were able to go and
it was magnificent, which if you've never been, now you've been,
how many times? Three or four times?

Speaker 1 (01:12:19):
Yeah? Three three times, three times?

Speaker 2 (01:12:20):
Yeah, And you were telling me before I left, get
ready because this place is amazing. Yeah. I don't know
if there is a word to describe what you can
see in Switzerland. It is amazing.

Speaker 1 (01:12:30):
Picturesque is what you're trying to say that that word
just doesn't really fit because it's the it is. It is.
It's amazing. And the way that that Switzerland is a nation,
the way they move around, the way they are, they
are connected to the environment in a different way than
the nutjob environmentalists in America. By the way, Uh, they
want to be a part of it. They want access

(01:12:51):
to it. So a lot of a lot of the
way you get up the mountains and the trains, but
also the gondolas and everything else. It's I just I
love it. You'll be in a valley and there is
a mountain. There is a town on a ridge of
a mountain. You don't even know it's up there. Yeah,
but you'll see this gondola and you'll if you get
up over the ridge where your eyes can't see, there's

(01:13:12):
a whole town there. There's no cars r anying because
you got up there that certain way. But it's a
village and it's a nice one. They got things there
and that is just like it's everywhere.

Speaker 2 (01:13:21):
Well, there are a couple of things that really impressed me.
It is a very clean country for the most part. Yes,
now you do see some graffiti. I think I saw
one homeless person going through the garbage, I think. But
the streets are clean, the public toilets are cleaned, if
you think about that. The trains, Greg and you and
I talked about this. In my opinion, I think America

(01:13:45):
missed the boat when it came to when it comes
to trains, because now we are a much bigger country
than Switzerland, all right, But the trains run on time,
they're clean, they're they're wonderful. We took one bus from
the airport to our hotel and then the rest of
the seven eight days traveling around that country was nothing
but trains. They ran on time, they were clean, they

(01:14:07):
were very comfortable their effect. I was telling you about this.
We had an opportunity on one of the trains that
there were some open seats directly in front of us
and Cindy and I. You walk a lot right when
you're on one of these were so we put our
feet up on the seats and the flight the railroad
purps came by and said, please put your feet down.
We asked people to respect and don't get those seats dirty.

Speaker 1 (01:14:29):
Okay, yeah, you know, way to represent America. Put your
dirty feet on a night we.

Speaker 2 (01:14:34):
Were okay, we were tired. But this is how much
respect they have for what they what they have in Switzerland.
Please keep it clean.

Speaker 1 (01:14:43):
And you know there their trains even go up the
mountains or cograil, they have our teeth to them they
get them up there. Yeah, and I'm going to tell
you that if utons were to see the efficiency and
how that how we do that versus in ski season,
they call it the red Snake where you see the
brake lights that go forever and how many hours. Uh,
they have the avalanche ramps that that if there is

(01:15:03):
an av it misses the because there's like a shed
over it that it will never touch the rail car
itself for the tracks. If you could see it and
see how well it works, it would change your mind
about how we could get around in a valley that's
pretty crowded in a way. And I do I think
it's a it's an incredible it's an incredible country.

Speaker 2 (01:15:23):
Yeah, it is an incredible country, and we went to Zurich.
We were in Lucerne, we were in Zurmont, we were
a young Frau the Glacier, we were at the Matterhorn.
I mean, we took took it all in. But the
most enjoyable part, I think greg was the fact that
we were on trains and we went through the countryside.
What you were talking about, beautiful countryside, these little towns.

(01:15:44):
Every town had a huge church steeple.

Speaker 1 (01:15:47):
Yes.

Speaker 2 (01:15:47):
Now, I don't know how religious the Swiss are, but
you know, historically, historically they always have been, and we
have I tell you what Lucerne unbelievable, Zermatt unbelievable, and
how beautiful they are and how you know, it was
just if anyone ever gets a chance to go there.

(01:16:09):
You know, I've always loved Italy, and I've said this
on the air. I love Italy, but I'm wondering now
if I don't love Switzerland more than I do Italy.
It was that picturesque.

Speaker 1 (01:16:17):
Yeah, I've never been to Italy, but I'll tell you
the Lion there's a and if you're in a Loucern
there's the line of Loucerner, which is a beautiful carve
it's not and it's not a lot of it's not
very grandiose. It's just in a small little park around
the corner, a little pond in front of it. But
the sculptor that that did this, and it's the Swiss
that we're defending the French king and queen when during
the revolutionary time, and so it's it's kind of symbolizing

(01:16:40):
that moment in history. But the christis the sculptor that did.
The christis here in Utah, and the lion did the
lion Lione of Loocerner is beautiful spot. But no ice, Okay,
if I have one gripe about that. It's just not
just switchling because the continent. It's like, you never heard
of ice? You need some ice? And if you ask
for as you did this, aren't we where you said,

(01:17:00):
will you give me a glass of ice? And I'd say,
can I get some ice for this? They bring me
a cube? Like, but what's it going to do? I
don't need a cube? I need ice.

Speaker 2 (01:17:08):
Like, realize it's America's fascination with ice because.

Speaker 1 (01:17:14):
It's insane, it's crazy. You can't pack it, so what
do you do? Yeah, so you're stuck, you know, so
there's no ice there, folks, just warning it's something. I
like ice. They do chill them, but they're big deal.
It is not like having ice in your tak They
aren't cold. Yeah. Now I haven't been there for a decade,

(01:17:36):
but you said that they might have better store hours.
I was blown away that you have an entire country
that everybody said, hey, it's six five, six o'clock, let's close.
It's like, wait a minute. If I'm working or something,
I want to go somewhere at night, like to buy something.
Everything was closing in the The.

Speaker 2 (01:17:50):
Only places where you can find that we're open later
in the evening were at the train stations. Okay, yeah,
you know, and you could find and there they have
some wonderful storage there.

Speaker 4 (01:17:59):
There.

Speaker 2 (01:18:01):
There are two things. One is spelled How would you
say coo op coop coop coop? I would say co
op Why, I don't know. I would just say I
got chicken coop. But that's what they call They call
it coop coop go to the coop store, Okay. Another
one called migross Micross am I am? I you have

(01:18:24):
to yes, micros, but they're the same thing. Wonderful stories,
bright fresh stuff, in there each and every day. But
they close at eight o'clock at night or seven o'clock.

Speaker 1 (01:18:33):
That's actually later than it was when I was having
a difficult time finding things open in the evening, which
was you know, you get hungry a little bit in
the evening, you want to have something bit, But no,
it's a it's a great place to visit it. I
was excited to hear your impression of it when you
got back.

Speaker 2 (01:18:49):
It was great. It's hard to discribe. You get to
some of these places up in the mountains where you
a young fraul. The glacier, uh, and it's the top
of Europe.

Speaker 1 (01:18:58):
Did you did you go in to the glacier the.

Speaker 2 (01:19:01):
Ice ice cages. We went out on the glacier. We
were throwing snowballs at each other, sliding down it nice.

Speaker 1 (01:19:07):
You can see the level of this of the sawdust
when they were building that place from the fifties, because
you know how it's layered.

Speaker 2 (01:19:13):
It's really amazing. All right, more to come. You're on
the Rodden Greg Show in Utah's Talk Radio one oh
five nine kN rs. Now, before we go to our
next guest, we've got to play this real quick. We
have a talkback line, which people can call into the
show and leave a comment. You can do that by
downloading the Ironheart Radio app, putting in knars dot com
and you'll see the little microphone. But we had this

(01:19:33):
called this talkback comment come in. We thought we'd played
for you. This is guy in West Jordan.

Speaker 15 (01:19:40):
I have it on good authority that President Trump is
planning on building golf course in Iran.

Speaker 2 (01:19:47):
He's already got the first three holes in.

Speaker 1 (01:19:51):
Iron Iron Lago. I think I could hit a hole
in one and that at that at that course.

Speaker 2 (01:19:57):
Iran Lago. Well, a federal judge is blocking deportations of
eight migrants in what the Trump administration is calling a
lawless active defiance of the Supreme Court. Let's find out
what's going on. Joining us on our any hour newsmaker
line is Caitlin Richardson. She is a court reporter at
the Daily Caller. Caitlin, how are you welcome back to
the Roden greg Show. Thanks for joining us.

Speaker 18 (01:20:20):
I'm doing great, Thanks so much for having me on.

Speaker 2 (01:20:22):
All right, Caitlin, who is this judge and what is
he doing right now?

Speaker 18 (01:20:28):
This judge, Judge Murphy, was appointed during the Biden administration.
Towards the end of the term last year. This judge
issued an injunction back in April that blocks the Trump
administration from deporting migrants to what they're called third countries,

(01:20:48):
so country is not listed in their deportation order. And
the Supreme Court yesterday lifted this injunction temporarily. They said
these deportations can go for And yet this judge, just
hours after the Supreme Court lifted this his injunction ruled

(01:21:09):
that eight migrants need to stay where they are currently
at a military base in Africa and cannot be deported
to South Student. And so even though the Supreme Court
gave the okay for the term of administration to resume
what I had been doing, this judge said, for these eight,
one of my earlier orders is going to stay forced.

Speaker 1 (01:21:30):
So I'm confused because there's not I don't know where.
I don't think that's legal. I think that if I
know that when states passed laws and the Supreme Court
says that that law is not constitutional, there's a stay.
There's a there's an injunction in place that the state
cannot do that if the state decided to ignore it.
There I would imagine there's a consequence to that, where

(01:21:51):
the federal government would intervene. What's going to happen to
this judge he's not standing on lead firm legal ground.

Speaker 18 (01:22:00):
Yeah, that's a really good question. So today the Trump
administration filed a new group with the Supreme Court, calling
out this judge through what they said was unprecedented defiance
of the Supreme Court's authority. They said this was a
lawless ruling. They said that, you know, for months they've

(01:22:20):
been trying to comply with this injunction, and then after
they get released from the Supreme Court and this judge
turns around and it says that you can't move forward
with these eight dangerous migrants. So it makes me seen
what the Supreme Court will do with that. But I
would expect a response at some point, probably seen from

(01:22:45):
the Supreme Court clarifying their order and clarifying that this
judge should not be doing this.

Speaker 2 (01:22:54):
You may be aware of where this judge could be
reprimanded or called on the carpet more openly, impeach, openly
define what the Supreme Court said.

Speaker 18 (01:23:04):
Yeah, I would expect probably a strong response from the
Supreme Court. But this is a more extreme example, but
part of a trend that we've been seeing of lower
court judges and joining the administration from moving forward on
some of their priorities, especially on issues of immigration like this.

(01:23:25):
And there is another case that the Supreme Court heard
recently on trying to reign in some of these rulings
by lower court judges connected to the birthright citizenship issue,
So that'll be interesting to watch as well. But obviously
this is a pretty big deal that you know, just
hours after the Supreme Court issued this order, this judge

(01:23:49):
turned around and did this.

Speaker 1 (01:23:51):
So just yesterday we interviewed a legal correspond respawned from
the Federalists talking about the judge in Los Angeles that
was that had said that Trump wasn't able to direct
the National Guard or bring in the Marines, and then
that was overturned. And now that same judge is trying
to find new ways and new pathways to prevent the

(01:24:12):
President from working with or directing the National Guard or
the Marines in Los Angeles. And so this is connected
in that these judges are going around clear decisions that
are ruled against them, their injunction, injunctions are being lifted,
and they want to find ways or ruling in ways
where they can still do what they want to do

(01:24:34):
at some point, is it your opinion should the Supreme
Court take this on as an umbrella issue. I mean,
I don't know how they take it in one at
a time when it's happening so often.

Speaker 18 (01:24:45):
Yeah, there is a one pending case where they could
potentially lay down some rules that would create more boundaries
for lower court judges. And that's the question they were
looking at. In mad they heard oral arguments on this
regard arding birthright citizenship. The Trump administration appealed that case
in order to ask that very question. Should judges, lower

(01:25:08):
court judges be able to issue these injunctions that block
policies across the entire nation? So I would look for
a ruling in that case coming. But you're right, this
is a growing problem, and a lot of this is
happening because it's happening on the Supreme Court's emergency docket.

(01:25:29):
Things are changing so rapidly. It is probably hard for
a lot of people to follow. When there's lower court's
ruling one thing, Supreme Court turns around, does something else,
and then the litigation continues. It does make lines somewhat unclear.

Speaker 2 (01:25:43):
Welly, it sure does Caitlin, great reporting on this, Thanks
for a few minutes of your time. Well appreciate it.

Speaker 18 (01:25:49):
Yeah, thanks all right.

Speaker 2 (01:25:50):
Joining us on our newsmaker line Caitlin Richardson. She is
a court reporter with the Daily Color. Another example, Greg,
here we have a judge, usually a Democrat, a appointed judge,
openly defined the US Supreme Court and the Democrats. What
do they say about Donald Trump all the time? Unconstitutional
dictator democracy, threat to democracy? What are these judges? Threat

(01:26:12):
to democracy?

Speaker 10 (01:26:13):
Yeah?

Speaker 1 (01:26:13):
Tell it saying the Supreme Court? He's going to defy
the Supreme Are you kidding me? He shouldn't have a
job anymore. I mean, it's a lifetime appointment. And it's
it's it's absolutely offensive that they's going to say no, no,
I'm not going to do it. Supreme Court doesn't I'm
not gonna do it.

Speaker 2 (01:26:27):
We don't care, you know. And it reminded me we're
in where are we almost the middle of June, right
are we? Yeah? Where are all these major decisions coming
from the Supreme Court? Nothing as of yet? And the
clockheads ticking they're done? What the next week?

Speaker 1 (01:26:41):
Twenty fourth, the third week.

Speaker 2 (01:26:44):
There are a lot of big decisions handed at this
week hanging out there, so we'll have to see what happens. Okay,
all right, more coming up. No, I have nothing planned
at least for a.

Speaker 1 (01:26:52):
Month, at least for the month posted.

Speaker 2 (01:26:55):
I'll let you know, I'll let you know.

Speaker 15 (01:26:58):
All right.

Speaker 1 (01:26:58):
Well, look, we've been talking about the beautiful bill. You
can talk of a lot of clock is ticking. I
think it's hilarious. And they say this out loud, if
they if they run the risk of missing out on
their Fourth of July holiday, Oh, things get real. Now
we're going to go do the people's work. We're gonna
get this stuff done because we don't want to we
don't want to miss our Fourth of July holiday.

Speaker 2 (01:27:16):
Well, they've got parades, got to be I know.

Speaker 1 (01:27:18):
I just think it's a little much that that's like
actually a deal, that that would actually be one of
the factors. But that said, you're seeing the Senate now
kick it up a little a notch and talk about
the big beautiful bill. And you cannot have a good
discussion about the big beautiful Bill unless you go to
the well of the Senate and you hear from the
good Senator from Louisiana, John Kennedy let's have a listen

(01:27:39):
as to what he thinks this bill is and why
it's important.

Speaker 20 (01:27:43):
If we don't pass this bill, it will be the
largest tax increase on the American people in the history
of America. So there are two doors here. Door number one,
pass it, largest tax cut in the history of America.
Door number two, don't pass it. Largest tax increase four

(01:28:05):
point three tree in dollars. That's how much taxes will
go up on ordinary Americans, not just the rich. I
know they're gonna tell you that it's just the rich.

Speaker 3 (01:28:16):
No it's not.

Speaker 20 (01:28:19):
It's ordinary Americans. It's every American. Put on pass his bill.
You raise taxes four point three treeion dollars on three
hundred plus million Americans, and you watch this economy go
down like a fat guy on a seesaw.

Speaker 1 (01:28:40):
They got a fat guy on a seesaw. That is
actually absolute truth. You watch his economy go down like
a fat guy on a seesaw.

Speaker 2 (01:28:50):
He has a way with words, John Kennedy, like a
fat guy going down on his saw.

Speaker 1 (01:28:55):
That's right. I'll never forget when they're like, you know what,
we keep key kicking the can down the road, going
to run out of road. Okay, And I'm telling you
that's he's right. And so they're they're they're starting to deliberate.

Speaker 2 (01:29:06):
You know what that is said. They don't even put
sea saws in parts anymore.

Speaker 1 (01:29:10):
I know.

Speaker 2 (01:29:11):
It's so wimpy, you know. And those those those whirl
around things, jump on them, fly off.

Speaker 1 (01:29:17):
Yeah, it was the merry go rounds, that's the proper
name for it. I was very I was very much am.
I get on there and I go fast and with
the girls try to hold on. I go faster and
make them fall off. But you know what they used
to us to put like a tank, like you know,
a tank, and they would put it in the in
the playground and you could climb on, climb on it.
They didn't put yeah, sharp edges. You know, there's no

(01:29:39):
there's no ladder onto it. You're just supposed to climb it.
And and you know, and they had they had a
fire truck like that, and I well know in Pittsburgh,
I'm telling you, none of these things had soft They
had a military jet. I'm telling you they clean it
out inside to make sure there's nothing in there. But
they'll let you climb all over those things. Now there's
sharp edges have then forbid, there's militari. Think about and

(01:30:01):
think about and think about the seesaw. Oh, it's so scary.
We used to have like half bear like around half
round tires so you could bounce on it if you
came down, if someone got off.

Speaker 2 (01:30:09):
When were you a crazy person in the city park?
Yeah I was.

Speaker 1 (01:30:13):
Yeah, you.

Speaker 2 (01:30:16):
Did crazy things.

Speaker 1 (01:30:17):
Yeah, you know you can take You can take bicycles kids.
You can line them up and jump from the swings
like you're jumping on you go high and then you
let go. Do they even jump?

Speaker 2 (01:30:25):
Do they even have swings anymore in parks?

Speaker 1 (01:30:27):
I don't even know. I don't know. I see it
a long time. Oh I ever see like splash parks
and stuff. I never even see a good park anymore.

Speaker 2 (01:30:33):
They took all the fun out of I know. Yeah,
I'm thinking speaking of taking the fun out of things.
I know this will shock you and chock many of
our great listeners. Lisa Murkowski, the Senator from a story
I think she is. She is now saying that she
may declare that she's no longer a member of the
Republican Party, will be an independent, and will caucus with

(01:30:54):
the Democrats.

Speaker 1 (01:30:56):
Yeah, yeah, it was in response to a question that
what the Republicans could actually get to sixty, Well, then
she would leave to make sure they don't get to sixty.
And she'd caught this with the Democrats to prevent that. Well,
that doesn't make you a Republican, now, does it if
you're willing to do that. So I think she's you know,
and it makes me mad because they got that stupid
type of voting up there in Alaska rank choice or

(01:31:18):
whatever it is. And and then Mitch McConnell gave her
all that money to run and really disadvantaged Republicans that
were running for that that seat. And she's not a Republican.

Speaker 2 (01:31:29):
So now she's saying I don't care anymore. No, no,
she didn't, but they keep on electing her.

Speaker 1 (01:31:36):
You know, this happens in the line.

Speaker 2 (01:31:37):
You know.

Speaker 1 (01:31:38):
Look, when I was growing up, Arl Inspector was like
a hero. We loved him. He's a little moderate on
some issues, but in Pennsylvania was he was. You know,
he backed our Republican, backed Reagan. He was a great,
great center. And then he stayed there so long he
lost the confidence of the Republicans in Pennsylvania.

Speaker 2 (01:31:54):
He switched party. He switched parties at one time, right.

Speaker 1 (01:31:58):
While he was office, he switched parties, came a Democrat,
and then he went into the primary with the Democrats
and they just they just pat They just beat him
like a rented mule, like a rent He was a
rented mule.

Speaker 3 (01:32:09):
He was.

Speaker 1 (01:32:10):
He wasn't in a real Democrats. They just he didn't
survive the Democrats primary. But to see him serve that
long in the in the US Senate as a Republican
and then just switch parties because it was about him,
it wasn't about you know, who he was representing. So
I think it's a I think he can get that
way in the Senate. I think these senators have stayed
there so long. I'm Generation X. I don't think you
have enough Generation X. I think you know jd. Vance

(01:32:32):
is younger than me. You're going to miss an entire
generation of Americans that never served because these guys hung
on till they're one hundred and five too much.

Speaker 2 (01:32:39):
If you'd like to share with what your son, who's
been an intern right now in Washington, his thoughts on Congress.

Speaker 1 (01:32:45):
He called me he's working in this summer. I'm very
proud of him, and he didn't really track a lot
of what I did in public service. He has, he's
going to committee meetings and we're talking. He's like, Dad,
I think they're way too old out here. He's like,
they got a good question. Looks like staff staffed him
up with good questions ask, but when they answer them,

(01:33:05):
they don't know where to go from there. They don't
actually follow up some of the information I'm listening to
and it's like, well that's something you should know more about.
They don't ask a follow up because, in my son's opinion,
there's a lot of people that are maybe a little
too old the you know, the the expiration date might
have passed expired on the you know effectiveness.

Speaker 2 (01:33:28):
Well, that's what a lot of Americans are saying. They're
just too old back there anymore. They are out of
touch with the everyday Americans.

Speaker 1 (01:33:34):
Yeah, it's interesting to see my son his you know,
just without any kind of preconceived notions, what he observes
and what he shares with me. It's interesting.

Speaker 2 (01:33:44):
All right, Well that does this for us tonight. We'll
be back with Wingman Wednesday tomorrow. Absolutely day, head up,
shoulders back. May God bless you and your family in
this great country have hours. Thanks for joining us. We're
back tomorrow. It's for have a good evening.

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