The Rod and Greg Show: Speaker Mike Schultz on Sundance Film Festival's Threats; Senate President Stuart Adams Wraps Session

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Speaker 1 (00:00):
I thought I'm always in the sixties this week man,
I thought the sweaters were done.

Speaker 2 (00:04):
Yeah, did you get a lot of snow at your place?

Speaker 3 (00:05):
I got snow?

Speaker 2 (00:06):
Yeah, I sure did too.

Speaker 3 (00:07):
Yeah I had.

Speaker 1 (00:08):
I hadn't look like a white Christmas in my house.
But it's March. I'm ready to go.

Speaker 3 (00:13):
I want. I thought I was going to hit.

Speaker 2 (00:15):
Balls and not this weekend.

Speaker 1 (00:17):
My golf game going and all of a sudden, bam cold.

Speaker 2 (00:20):
Not this weekend. Well, I think Alta got like two feet.
Abby was saying when she drove home last night. It
was a blizzard. Last weight for her.

Speaker 1 (00:30):
I'm so happy that Alta got two feet. Why can't
they just keep it up there? Leave us alone down here?
That's all you know. I don't I don't need it.
I don't need that. Although it's been so warm that
our sidewalks are driveways that it melted pretty quick, so
it's not on there.

Speaker 3 (00:42):
It's not like you had a shovel.

Speaker 2 (00:43):
It was no big deal.

Speaker 3 (00:44):
It was no big deal, but it was sweater day.

Speaker 2 (00:47):
It was. Well, we've got a lot to get to today.
Great to be with you on this this Friday afternoon.
As you work your way home headed into the weekend.
We appreciate your listening to us each and every day.
A lot going on today. Here's what we're going to
be talking about. Jason Chaffit's former Utah congressman now a
Fox News analyst, will be joining us shortly talking about
the Democratic meltdown that is taking place. Mike Scholz, Speaker

(01:10):
of the Utah We have a powerful lineup today, Jason
Chaffitz do Mike Schultz is going to be talking to
us about what's going on with the political statement flag controversy.
Stuart Adams will join us a little bit later on.
He is President of the Utah Senate. And we'll give
you a preview of what's coming up at the International
Sportsman's Expo. So a lot to get to today, and

(01:32):
as always, we invite you to be a part of
the show. Eight eight eight five seven eight zero one
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on your cell phone dial pound two fifteen. Say hey, Rod,
all right, I'm thinking about the Democrats right now, what
they've gone through in the last twenty four hours. Greg,
And all I can think about is this You've done no.

Speaker 4 (02:00):
Fire, but just drawing my field of all again.

Speaker 2 (02:12):
I tell you what. The Democrats are in a meltdown, Greg,
and they don't know what to.

Speaker 3 (02:17):
Do about it.

Speaker 1 (02:18):
I think the wicked Witch of the West was melting
less in that clip than the Democrats are right now.
They are just so crestfallen that Schumer, who clearly did
not like the name Schumer shutdown, I did not want
to be didn't want to be known for that. I

(02:38):
brought nine of his Democrats Senate colleagues along with him
to vote with all of all the Republicans except for one,
for the continuing Resolution to keep the government going. So no,
no shutdown at midnight. And boy is that if we
didn't think that Democrats are really united or really had

(02:58):
a message before they are mad at Schumer.

Speaker 3 (03:02):
Now, boy, they're really mad.

Speaker 2 (03:03):
Well, this is another win for Donald Trump, I mean,
and he just keeps on piling up the wins. They
cannot stand it.

Speaker 1 (03:10):
I'm getting tired of winning. It's just where we win
so much. We're getting tired of winning. Yeah, I'll never
get tired.

Speaker 2 (03:16):
They simply can't can't stand it. Well, it was late
yesterday when we were on the show, Greg, when Schumer
said he in fact was not going to vote against
the cr he was going to vote in favor of
having a vote on it, and boy did the Democrats
go crazy with us when everybody today is attacking Chuck
Schumer saying, how can he be disloyal to the party

(03:36):
that is trying to defeat everything that Donald Trump does? Well,
Schumer got on the Chris Hay Show on MSNBC last night.
This is what he had to say to have the.

Speaker 5 (03:46):
Conflict on the best ground we have summed up in
a sentence that they're making the middle class pay for
tax cuts for billionaires. It's much much better not to
be in the middle of a shutdown, which to divert
people from the number one issue we have against these bastards, sorry,
these people, which is not only all these cuts, but

(04:07):
they're ruining democracy.

Speaker 2 (04:09):
Did he just call us bastards? I called someone called
someone I think it was referring to Trump and Musk.

Speaker 1 (04:15):
I embrace that title. By the way, I'm a lucky bastard.

Speaker 3 (04:19):
I am. I am by definition a bastard. Child.

Speaker 2 (04:22):
Well, let me tell you what they Schumer went after him,
and then of course after the announcement, everybody and the
party went after him, including this person AOC.

Speaker 6 (04:32):
The point that Santa Schumer has kind of made is
you know, the CR is bad, but a shutdown is worse.

Speaker 7 (04:38):
So how do you respond to that point?

Speaker 6 (04:40):
That is I cannot understate I mean, I cannot underscore
enough how incorrect that is. Because what this does, what
voting for this CR does, is that it codifies the
chaos and the reckless cuts that Elon Musk has been
pursuing the robbing of our federal government in order to

(05:02):
finance tax cuts for billionaires. Is what is happening, and
that is what Senate Democrats will be empowering if they
vote for the R.

Speaker 2 (05:10):
Wow.

Speaker 1 (05:11):
Yeah, here's the thing, this whole tax cut for billionaires.
This sounds really good. It's great. It makes for great copy.
I guess if anyone could actually track your spot, any
billionaire other than Elon Musku's in his own time is
looking to find fraud, waste abuse, really money laundering going
on in the federal government. But all the billionaires really

(05:31):
are on their side of JB. Pritsker, the governor of Illinois.

Speaker 3 (05:35):
Billionaire.

Speaker 1 (05:36):
There's a whether it's Bill Gates, whether it's Soros. I mean,
you go down the line, all the billionaires are on
their side. The only tax cuts I'm staring at are
no tax on tips. I don't think billionaires are up
at night worrying about tax on tips. I don't think
tax on overtime. I don't think that the tax cuts
that came in twenty seventeen, which if they don't stay permanent,
which most tax cuts do, and we are to see
a tax increase that we've had on our show, steven

(06:00):
more others that say that that amounts to three thousand
dollars a household or higher in tax increases, none of
which are impacting billionaires that would be everyday Americans. So
they can keep using this tax cut for billionaires. It's
a nice slogan. It doesn't have any any founding in
fact whatsoever.

Speaker 2 (06:19):
Yeah. Well, and the thing that gets me greg from
what I understand of this continuing resolution that the Senate,
my guess will approve here in a few hours, is
that it doesn't allow any more spending. That's what drives them.
The budgets are held to what they were in twenty nineteen,
I believe was what they're looking at. So in a
way they're cutting spending by not allowing any more spending.

(06:42):
I mean, that's one of the issues, and they just
they you know, the Democrats, great, they just want to spend, spend, spend, spend,
and we're tired of spending, spending and spending.

Speaker 1 (06:52):
It's more than tired, it's unsustainable. It is a very
scary thing to talk about two trillion dollars of deficit
spending and climbing, thirty six trillion dollars in total deficit
and climbing. And there's no good ending if the trajectory
keeps going the way it wants to go. But the
Democrats are determined to see that go. For them to
say that this current, this pace of spending of which

(07:14):
you know, ten Senate Democrats agreed and is going to
allow this to go, is somehow a conservative budget, it's
you can argue that it's not. It does give the
president the runway he needs to continue to do the
good work he's doing. It doesn't shut down the government.
But I you know, the Democrats are lucky that they
came to their senses, because if they were it was
a Schumer shutdown, not only would they be blamed for

(07:36):
what they're doing, it would give President Trump a lot
more latitude in what he could actually lotch in the
in the in the federal government and the executive branch,
which wouldn't have played well for them either. So they
can all cry about it. But you know, I this
is what I was hoping a long time ago, that
that the Republicans in the Senate or in the House

(07:56):
would have done to send to send these types of
issues to the Senate, and the Democrats choke on them,
but they could never get enough votes. It was miraculous
that we saw the votes for that cr happen out
of the House, because the Democrats certainly didn't think we'd
do it.

Speaker 2 (08:10):
Well, here's what's so interesting about this greg they're all
upset at Busk, They're all upset at Donald Trump. Why
weren't they upset at this guy a couple of years ago.

Speaker 8 (08:18):
Everyone knows that getting rid of the deficit will require
some tough decisions, and that includes cutting back on billions
of dollars in programs that a lot of people care about.
But what should be easy is getting rid of the
pointless waste and stupid spending that doesn't benefit anybody, waste
we should be getting rid of even if we didn't
have a deficit. Sure, some of these cuts aren't that big,

(08:41):
But no amount of waste is acceptable, not when it's
your money. Not at a time when so many Americans
are already cutting back. Just as families are living within
their means, government should too. We need to step up
our game. We need to go after every dime. We
need to make government work for you. That's why, starting today,
I've asked the Vice President to lead a renewed effort

(09:02):
to hunt down misspent tax dollars in every agency and
department of this government. We're calling it the Campaign to
Cut Waste, and I know Joe's the right man to
lead it because nobody messes with Joe.

Speaker 1 (09:16):
Well you just listened to that and you crack up.
I'm like, yes, yes, yes, no one messes with Joe.

Speaker 2 (09:22):
Oh yeah, really really I think Donald Trump messed with
Joe and Kamala didn't.

Speaker 1 (09:27):
He'll do a very good job on com finding all
that waste. But they don't have AI either. Maybe a
live dog face soldiers, Yeah exactly. You know this is
what this is what tears me up about this.

Speaker 4 (09:36):
Greg.

Speaker 2 (09:37):
Here you have Obama, You've had other presidents and administration
talking about cutting waye or.

Speaker 3 (09:41):
Out, Clinton, Gore did it.

Speaker 2 (09:43):
They nobody ever did well Clinton did someone. I mean
there he laid off what three hundred and thirty seven
thousand federal employees at the time. But they've talked about
this forever. Nobody has done it except Donald Trump, and
he's gotten in there and said that's it. We're done.

Speaker 1 (09:57):
And the big pivot in an American politics is even
if they didn't do it, the Democrats would pay mighty
lip service to the idea of waste and getting rid
of that and making sure that you don't hurt good
programs by getting rid of the dumb ways that government
has figured out how to waste your taxpayer dollars. That
was something that was bipartisan in at least a mission

(10:18):
or sentiment. But now you hear all these these Democrats say,
we can't, we can't handle the idea that you'd find fraud, waste,
and abuse.

Speaker 3 (10:26):
There's none all of it.

Speaker 1 (10:28):
You're just all that all that is a threat on
democracy and a tax break for billionaires.

Speaker 2 (10:33):
Huh Yeah's explain that one to us. All right, more
coming up as we just start the ball rolling on
the Rod and Gregg Show on this Friday afternoon. Next
we'll talk with former Utah congressman and now Fox News
contributor Jason Chafix. That's coming up next on the Rod
and Gregg Show. The Speaker of the Utah House, Mike Schultz,
will be joining us. The President of the Utah Senate,
Stuart Adams will be joined in us, and we'll give

(10:55):
you a preview of the upcoming International Sportsman's Expo that
is coming your way next weekend. Sandy, let's right now
talk to former Utah Congressman and now a Fox News contributor,
Jason Chafits about the Democrats, the meltdown that is taking
place within the Democratic Party, and the fact that Chuck
Schumer gave in big victory yesterday for Donald Trump. The

(11:17):
vote is going to come before the Senate very shortly
with a continuing resolution. Jason, thanks for joining us. What
do you make of this, Jason? And the meltdown the
Democrats are going through right now?

Speaker 9 (11:27):
They have no choice. Look, the leadership of the Democratic
Party is in meltdown. They are flailing. They are old, tired, grumpy,
they have no fresh ideas, and they're led by a
bunch of morons.

Speaker 2 (11:40):
Other that things are going right.

Speaker 1 (11:43):
So you got Susan Rice and you have a lot
of Adam Schiff. They're all saying, we can't agree to this,
we can't do it. Then you have Schumer doesn't want to.
I guess he doesn't like the term Schumer shut down.
It doesn't sit well with him. He's now indicating he's
going to vote for it. What would be the I mean,
according to Senator Fetterman, it would just be pageantry because

(12:03):
at some point they would lose this. Ultimately, they would
lose this in the Senate. So he's it doesn't sound
like he's for shutting the government down. What would be
the argument that Susan Rice and Adam Schiff, what are
they making to even try to stop this from happening.

Speaker 3 (12:17):
What would be their case?

Speaker 2 (12:20):
Well, look, there's no case here.

Speaker 9 (12:22):
If Democrats had played this smart, they could have really
run circles around the Republicans and made them look like fools.
Let's understand, this is a continuing resolution. It is an
extension of the Biden era of twenty twenty four, when
Chuck Schumer was the majority leader in the United States Senate.
He presided over the first four months of their fiscal year.

(12:43):
And if you go to the Committee for a Responsible
Federal Budget, one of the best analysis out there, best
organizations out there. Their summary is that this is a
ten billion dollar net increase into spending over twenty twenty
four So what do they call it? And the only

(13:04):
reason they're against it is because Republicans are for it,
and that Donald Trump and miraculously the House Republicans decided
to play team ball, which this is, and stick together.

Speaker 4 (13:16):
So it's just this idea that.

Speaker 9 (13:18):
Hey, we're going to just immediately say we're against it
because Trump's for it. And there is a point to say, look, you're.

Speaker 10 (13:25):
Going to shutdown.

Speaker 9 (13:26):
The president has even more authority to determine what's emergency,
what's needed, what's not needed, and they would i think,
be able to even spend less than what they were
doing in the past. And there would be no guarantee
that all these federal employees that were, you know, in
the temporary shutdowns, that they would get their jobs back

(13:46):
or that they would get paid.

Speaker 11 (13:48):
But Democrats didn't play it that way.

Speaker 9 (13:50):
They just said reflexively, we're against it because Trump is
for it.

Speaker 2 (13:55):
Are these developments over the past twenty four hours since
Schumer made his announcement and Jason, are they starting to
show there is a real divide within the Democratic Party
between the old guard and the new guard coming in,
who really want to fight everything Donald Trump is trying
to do. Is it exposing a real divide within the
Democratic Party? Do you feel?

Speaker 9 (14:16):
Yeah, I think that it's time for management change. And
I think they're looking around at you know, Durbin, Chuck Schumer,
Elizabeth Warren. You know, this is just a tired old
crew with no new innovative ideas. I mean, these are
all the same people that try to tell us that
Kamala Harris was you know, going to win and she

(14:38):
was the best candidate.

Speaker 3 (14:39):
I mean, come on.

Speaker 9 (14:40):
They also told us that Joe Biden was vibrant and
he's got his hands on the wheel, and that our
economy was doing great and all these things. It's just
at some point, you know, you can't fake cool, and
that's what Democrats are trying to do right now.

Speaker 1 (14:57):
So because you spent so much time in Congress, you
were I mean that Oversight Committee when you chaired it,
I think you were really one of the people that
highlighted national leaders, that highlighted the waste of federal spending.
I think the pace of our news cycles, the things
that are being able to be spotted the waste and really, actually,
I think the money laundering that goes on, it's even
worse than just wasteful spending at this point from what

(15:19):
we're seeing. But it seems like things are happening at
such a fast, fast pace versus what seemed to be
such a slow pace in Washington before. Is that just
perception or is there something real about that going on,
that things are moving substantively in a different direction or
better direction.

Speaker 9 (15:37):
Oh, Greg, your spot on it all starts at the top.
Donald Trump sets the pace. He doesn't sleep. He is
going one hundred miles an hour in every direction he
takes on things, and he's highly accessible. I mean, it's unbelievable.
I'm not trying to overstate this, Okay, don't think that
I'm doing this on a regular basis or even often.
But if I were to text the president right now,

(15:58):
he would respond probably within thirty mins. It's unbelievable all
the things he's got going on, that he's able to
do that and be so nimble. And then you're also
look on a weekly, if not daily basis, we were
pointing out by the billions of dollars waste, fraud abuse,
but you know, I was there during the Obama administration,
nothing would happen. The difference with Donald Trump is he

(16:20):
sees it, he's identifies it. Now he's actually going to
do something about it, and that is so refreshing.

Speaker 2 (16:26):
Yeah, sure is. Jason, what do you make of these
federal judges who are acting as president of the United
States and telling the president he can't cut federal jobs?
I mean, where do these federal judges think they have
this power?

Speaker 9 (16:40):
Like this is going to the Supreme Court. I think
Justice Alito really foreshadowed that there were four justices, which
is all that it takes to get this to agree
to go before the Supreme Court. And I just think
they're itching to take on the right course and in
right case and put these these would be presidents in line,

(17:01):
because you can't have some federal judge act as president
and make decisions that are going to affect the entire country.
If the president needs to dismiss personnel for whatever reason,
he's the executive he is He is the President of
the United States. He runs the executive branch, not some
federal yahoo judge who thinks that, you know, they don't

(17:22):
like Donald Trump.

Speaker 2 (17:25):
Utah Congressman former Utah Congressman Jason Schaffitz joining us on
our Newsmaker line, And boy, I just see a real
meltdown going on with the Democratic Party. And that question
I asked, James, what I think you're starting to see,
Greg is a real generational divide. And you have the
younger generation of Democrats who want to fight, fight, fight
Donald Trump every step of the way, and they're they're

(17:48):
tired of the old Democratic guard.

Speaker 3 (17:51):
Well, they just.

Speaker 1 (17:54):
You would think, because they've done this so well. Republicans
have never done this well. They Republicans will create circular
firing squads in my in my opinion, over who's pure
uh and who who who's most conservative uh. And that's
been one of the tough things about UH about Republicans.
And it really comes from a place of principle where
you get into that dilemma. But Democrats have always been

(18:17):
lockstep man. They could, they could, It didn't matter as
long as there was Republicans in front of them as
the enemy. They didn't care how much they disagree with
each other. The enemy was in front of them. It
was the Republicans. You're not seeing that now, You're seeing
a real chasm, yes, inside that party. And they don't
have any kind of real inspiring message. Everything they want
to do tears down the institution, the foundational Uh, the

(18:37):
institutional foundations of this of this nation.

Speaker 2 (18:40):
It does and does all right, more coming up, Uh,
you taught. Speaker of the House Mike Schultz will join
us next on the Rotten Gregg Show.

Speaker 1 (18:47):
You taugh, Speaker of the House, Mike Schultz, onto the program. Uh,
Speaker Shultz, thank you for joining us.

Speaker 3 (18:54):
Listen.

Speaker 1 (18:54):
I'm reading the newspaper. I see a headline the Sundance
Film Festival is threatening to take their film festival, the
film festival, out of Utah if the governor signs the
flag bill. I don't know if you're engaged in any
of those discussions with the Sundance Film Festival, But what
do you say about that headline and that situation.

Speaker 12 (19:11):
Well, we're not in I'm not, at least in indirect communications.
But I have been watching some of the things being
said by Sundance and those that run Sundance, and I
will say I think it's troubling because I want to
just put this bill into perspective. HB seventy seven. This
wasn't just about pride flags. It's about all political type

(19:32):
flags and they just don't belong in the classroom with
our kids. That our classrooms are not about political statements
or political leanings. It needs to be about education and learning.
That's what our classrooms and our schools should be about.
And that's what Utah is trying to make sure happens.

(19:52):
And we get back to that. Now, could you imagine
the left. They would lose their minds if a MAGA
flag was allowed in the classrooms, and like, do we
want to let Black Lives Matter flags in the classrooms.
The classrooms are not a place for this to happen.
And if Sundance is not okay with that, and they

(20:14):
want to try to strong arm the state and leverage
its political leaders, then I would say, don't let the
door hit you in the ass on the way out,
because it's not okay. Sundance needs to focus on making
movies and celebrate making movies and letting the citizens of
this state set up uh and it's elected officials that

(20:37):
set the policy for the state of Utah. That's the
way it should be. Look, these people that are saying
these things don't even live in Utah, and yet they're
trying to force these types of things into the state
of Utah. It's not okay, somedings needs to stick to
what they're doing.

Speaker 2 (20:52):
Yeah, speakers, the media playing a role in this and
misleading this what this bill is all about because they
call it the Pride Flag Bill. But as you indicated,
there's a lot more to it than just the pride flag.

Speaker 13 (21:04):
Yeah.

Speaker 12 (21:04):
Well, I've certainly seen what the Solid Tribune has said,
and absolutely it's one hundred percent miss leading. Now as
far as the other news outlets, you know, I haven't
paid attention to a lot to what they're saying. But
this is not about just the Pride flag. It is
about all political types of flags. That's what this is about.

Speaker 3 (21:25):
So I find it amazing.

Speaker 1 (21:27):
You do you think that it occurs to the Solid
Tribune or these filmmakers who love to celebrate each other
and the films that they make, that you're actually elected
by a constituency and that you're not supposed to take
your cues from Hollywood or from corporations or any other
issue or any other entity that's you know, not a

(21:49):
constituent of yours. Tell me, how how does it How
does it come across if you're in a town hall
or somewhere else. If if this issue comes up and
they said, well, you know this festival says, if you
don't do it, they say, you know, we're going to
all pay for it.

Speaker 3 (22:03):
Is is it offensive to the public when when this
is framed.

Speaker 12 (22:09):
I think it is. And again, I don't think this
is where Utah is at. I think the vast miss
majority of constituents and the citizens of the state that
I represent believe that classrooms are not a place for
political statements, regardless of what side of the aisle you're on.
And that's a firm believer that I think the State
of Utah has had for a really long time. Now

(22:31):
it's the door it has been cracked open, and different
types of flags have been coming into the classroom, including
the Pride flag and other types of flags, and that's
just not okay. We just need to get back to
focusing on what's most important in our classrooms in our schools,
and that's educating our kids. And Greg, you talked about this.
You know, they're the outdoor retailers, what was it seven

(22:53):
eight years ago, tried to do the same thing to
the State of Utah and it's political leaders, and we
said the same thing. You were part of this and
said the same thing at the same time. And guess what,
six seven years later, after the outdoor Retailer's show fell
apart because moving it to Colorado was not what's best,
they came back to the state of Utah. And so

(23:15):
you know, if if Sundance wants to go down that
same pathway, then I would say, well them, and you know,
it's sad, it's unfortunate. But again, we are not as
political leaders, going to let corporations dictate this type of
policy to the citizens of the state.

Speaker 2 (23:30):
Speaker Hughes, of course they are, Speaker Hughes, well speak
speaker Speaker's citizens. Mister speaker, are you concerned at all
about the economic impact? Because they bring up the issue.
We bring in millions of dollars to Utah every year,
thousands of visitors come here for the for the film festival.
Does that bother you at all? Knowing that may walk away?

Speaker 12 (23:53):
You know, I would rather not see it walk away.
But if this is the type of things that they're
going to push into the state of Utah, then I
would say, moved a different state and push it in
a different state. If you remember, you know when we
passed the the HB eleven four or five years ago
that did not allow boys to play girls' sports. Everybody

(24:14):
was saying, the All Star Game is going to NBA
is not not going to come to Utah, and we said,
that's fine. If that's what it's it. You know, we
have to live and swallow those types of things here
in the state of Utah. To have the NBA come
have their All Star Game, then that's not who Utah is.
We are going to stand up for our values here

(24:34):
in the state of Utah, and that's what we're going
to focus on. And we have plenty of corporations that
like that and want to move to Utah for its values.
And those that don't want to, then they can go
to California, they can go to another state. Uh, and
and and and have their shows or their conventions in
those states. But uh for the citizens of Utah, we're

(24:55):
going to stand up and we're going to do it's
right and more specifically our kids.

Speaker 3 (24:59):
And the rest of us.

Speaker 1 (25:00):
The story was they made that threat, if you passed
the band on boys playing girls sports, we won't have
the NBA All Star Game here, And they had the
NBA All Star Game here, So it was a bit
of a bravado and it wasn't an actual threat they
were willing to live up to. So you keep doing
what's right, let the consequences follow, and we will never lose.

Speaker 12 (25:18):
Hey, thanks for having me Ron, Greg. It's been an
honor and I appreciate you guys bringing highlighting the importance
of this issue.

Speaker 2 (25:25):
Thank you, Speak of the House, Mike Schultz joining us
on the Rod and Greg Show. A couple of things
I think you need to point out. Well, one for certain, Greg,
the Sundance Film Festival has been considering the idea of
moving now for several months, so this really is anything new.
I mean, they've been about going to Boulder, Colorado. They've
been thinking about going to Cincinnati, Ohio, so you know,

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this is nothing new. They just decided to throw this
in the discussion.

Speaker 1 (25:49):
So there's yeah, there's a bid process going on to
see if Utah Park City and Salt Lake City would
continue to host the Sundance Film Festival. But you're right,
there are other cities that have been buying for that,
and so they threw that into the mix, not even
saying they'll stay, They're just saying we'll definitely not pick
you if you signed that bill, Governor Cox. And I'm
telling you, I think that the governor, it's the legislature,

(26:09):
they're obligated at that point they have to sign. I
mean you, you would never want that to work because
you would just get more of that. You would just
get more of these leftist corporations or companies or efforts
to start trying to tell you who cares who you represent,
who cares who elected you. If you want us to
do business with you, you will do as we say.
You cannot get into that game. We haven't done it before.

(26:32):
And Tiller, now that's what they came back. Yep, they
came back, and that was twice a year. That was
a pretty bad I was every square inch of the
Salt Palace, plus tense on all the surface parking to
the north of the Salt Palace at twice a year event.
And it was not going to change our decision on land,
you know, federal lands and land use policy at all.

Speaker 2 (26:54):
All right, We've got a lot more to come here
on the Rod and Greg Show in Utah's Talk Radio
one five to nine. You know, well, Greg, I'm wondering,
you know, the the gay community is talking about the
pride flag right, and that it won't be allowed in classrooms.
Why isn't a MAGA community talking about, hey, we can't
hang a flag in there either.

Speaker 1 (27:12):
Because they couldn't find a teacher that'd be willing to
do it. That's why they or you know what, I'm
sure there's like eight firewalls in every school administration to
prevent such callousness.

Speaker 3 (27:22):
And uh dare you don't.

Speaker 1 (27:23):
Politicize the classroom. I'm sure everybody got converted to the
concept that they saw MAGA flag show up on school property.

Speaker 2 (27:29):
That's one of the issues I wanted to talk to
people about in the five o'clock hour. I mean, I
wonder how many Utahs have actually been to the Utah
Film Festival or Sundance Film Festival.

Speaker 3 (27:39):
Yeah?

Speaker 2 (27:40):
Have you went years ago?

Speaker 1 (27:41):
I went years ago. But you know, look how many
people go to parks all the time. It's kind of
a you know, it's a tourist attraction. It's it's you know,
Summit County gets there in parks that you get their
money from tourism, and and you know, good on them,
But you're not going to go and tell the legislature
and the governor this is what you will do. Will
do this, we will do this. That's yeah, that doesn't work.

(28:02):
So you don't let you negotiate with terrorists.

Speaker 2 (28:04):
Don't let the door hit you on the way out. Now,
there's an interesting story today we wanted to talk about
for a minute coming out of the UK. This is
a this is a it's a head scratcher.

Speaker 1 (28:14):
So I love it because Thomas Soul, the columnist you
know forever, he just said, I just wrote I've seen
it all. And what he's attaching is latest news. Un judge,
one time Columbia University human rights fellow found guilty of slavery.
And she herself from Africa, is a woman of color,
and she is in right now at Oxford and the

(28:39):
university and she has a slave and she's not supposed
to have a slave while she's there, and she does
have a slave, and so they're saying that's illegal, you
can't have one. So she's been found, she's been charged
and found guilty of having a slave. And she's been
you know, one of those human rights fellows for the
un and a one time Columbia University human rights fellow.

(29:00):
So I don't know Columbia University it's not really looking
all that inclusivelyately, is it.

Speaker 2 (29:07):
Apparently this woman who was her slave, did all the housework,
did everything, and she didn't get a dime for doing anything,
and she was subject to a lot of things, but
she basically had a slave.

Speaker 1 (29:20):
Yeah, and she's got the poor woman was tricked into
coming there. She was brought there under false pretenses.

Speaker 2 (29:26):
From was it Uganda one of the African countries? I
thought it was Uganda.

Speaker 1 (29:30):
Yeah, she tricked this Ugandan victim into coming to Britain
with her as she was studying at Oxford for her PhD.
And yeah, she she was forced, you know, she was.
She's being a slave. Rod can't be a slave. It's
just it's not in any it's out of vogue. We
don't do that anymore. And it's certainly the left. Boy,

(29:51):
they got a lot to say about that having happened
in the past. I don't know that anyone was thinking
it was happening in real time while they were complaining
about it.

Speaker 2 (30:00):
Oh, one other note we need to make before we
move into the next hour. Former Wyoming to sender Alan
Simpson passed away today. Yeah, you know, ninety three.

Speaker 1 (30:09):
Years old, in my twenties, I was back in DC,
young Republican, and I remember him speaking. I just love
this guy so much. First off, you know, he did
and said that politics is like combat. If you can't
take it, get out of the fight. He was just very,
very flippant. But he was charged with a felony before
he ran. He did not yes, before he ran for
the US Senate, and he said, I was I shot
a sign with my gun. I shot a freeway sign,

(30:32):
which apparently was a federal against para law. He says,
it's because I thought in college.

Speaker 3 (30:36):
Beer was food. And I remember laughing here I sit
all these years later. That kind of candor. You had
to love it.

Speaker 2 (30:43):
He was. He was one of those guys. All right,
our number two. We opened up the phones to you
for thank Rod.

Speaker 1 (30:49):
It's Friday next and you want to hear if you
didn't hear, we get a lot of great feedback about
our interview with we both chaef Its former Congressman Chaef
It's a Fox News Channel contributor and uh, but Speaker
Schultz had a message and if you don't uh, don't
get to threaten Utah. If you don't like the bill
that's sitting on the governor's desk, and you're going to

(31:10):
threaten them the signs that you're going to leave. Don't
let the door hit you.

Speaker 2 (31:13):
On the way out, is what he said.

Speaker 1 (31:17):
So people people appreciate the candor and the very direct message.

Speaker 2 (31:22):
I think that's well, that's the question I want to
ask our listeners today. You know, what do we do
about the Sundance Film Festival? My opinion, nothing, They want
to go, they go.

Speaker 1 (31:31):
You know, it's the day you start to colt out
to that you just get more of it. Every every
company will say, well, if you don't do what we say,
we're just going to pull stakes and leave your state,
and and you'll just get more of it. It's a
terrible way too to negotiate any good. Good public policy
doesn't have anything to do with you know, people that

(31:52):
either it's liberal organizations or corporations who would threaten us economically,
Uh to do it to you know, bend to their will.

Speaker 3 (32:00):
You can't do it.

Speaker 2 (32:00):
And it's always bothered me. Greg. And you may have
a better idea on this of Utah tax dollars going
to the Sundance Film Fest. Yeah, I know the state
legislature appropriates millions.

Speaker 3 (32:11):
Yeah, they I mean the.

Speaker 1 (32:13):
Idea is, it's it if there's a return on investment,
if you're putting in a little bit more and that
helps catalysts and create more economic activity, and so more
taxes are ultimately collected than what you're helping as seed
into a into a festival or something like that. Then
the then the math says you can do things like that.

(32:34):
What what is what you can't do is somehow that
relationship all of a sudden becomes that they get to
tell the state what to do. Yeah, that's that was
never the case. That should never be the case. And
I go back to when I was on the clock,
we had the outdoor retailers making the same threats and
that was twice a.

Speaker 2 (32:50):
Year, I remember that.

Speaker 1 (32:52):
And they didn't like our resolution on Obama taking Bear's Ears,
making it a national monument and encumbering that land from
the people that live down there or anyone else. And
we asked then President Trump to do something about which
he ultimately did. But they said if we passed that resolution,
they weren't going to have their outdoor retailer show in
Utah any longer. And we just said, basically what Speaker

(33:14):
Shoal said, Now I kind of made the same yeah
comment then, and that's you can go. And they did.
But guess what, they came back. It didn't go so
well when they left Utah. It turns out they liked Utah.
They wanted to come back.

Speaker 2 (33:26):
They now want to go to I think now this
was being considered before, so you know, this isn't the
first mention of Sundam's going elsewhere, because they've considered going
to Boulder, and the Boulder area never been over there,
so I'm not sure what other communities would be involved
in that. And to Cincinnati, so those are their options.

Speaker 3 (33:46):
Good luck getting the Bowlder.

Speaker 1 (33:47):
Well, they're all driving buying private jets, so they won't
have any trouble getting there. But the regular people, it
takes you as longer driving from Salt Lake to get
the Boulder from here as it would to wait in
an airport in Salt Lake to get to Denver to
wait for the next airline airplane to get you a Boulder.
You're almost it's almost six is how long it takes
you to get there.

Speaker 2 (34:05):
I wonder how many people, how many Utahs Greg actually
ever went to the Utah Film festal.

Speaker 1 (34:11):
I'd be curious because it seems like a closed shop
to me. It's a lot of a lot of people
coming in from out of state to go to that festival. Look,
let's let's just talk plainly. It might you might get
a lot of hotel rooms. You might have a lot
of people spending a ton of money during that festival.
That's great. We love tax you know, we're supply siders.
We like it all. Here's the deal. This is the
film industry that makes films and then they get together

(34:33):
to congratulate each other about how great to each of
the great they are. It is just it is just
a self you know, gratification for however long it is.

Speaker 3 (34:42):
It's just like, you know, we make films and aren't
we a great?

Speaker 2 (34:45):
Aren't we?

Speaker 1 (34:46):
And they just just you know, shower each other with
praise and awards and everything else. That's not everyday utons
I would not think are part of those festivals much
at all.

Speaker 2 (34:57):
My guess is just on edge opinion un educated guests,
I should say, is that a lot of younger people
go up there and you know what they're doing. What stargazing?

Speaker 14 (35:09):
Yeah?

Speaker 2 (35:09):
No, you know what I go on that park City
does stargates? What Big Star is in Park City, and
someone I knew years ago used to used to call them.
People would look for the Pips, and I thought, you
mean the pips people in black because everyone in Hollywood
where's black? Apparently funny, that's why they do so, that's
why they go there.

Speaker 3 (35:29):
Yeah, no, I don't.

Speaker 1 (35:30):
Yeah, you know what I've heard that. I've heard that
there's a lot of stargates. Yeah, college kids probably go
up there and sure if they can see a star
here or there, someone that's popular. But honestly, it might
be just that I'm getting older. But man, I remember
that the movies that used to make the Academy Awards
were movies that you recognized a lot of movies that
you had actually gone to the theaters and seen. I
wouldn't recognize an Academy Award nomination film or actor actress

(35:55):
if they were sitting next to me, or if the
film was playing on the screen, I would know what
it is. I think it's gone, and I think they've
left the general publics. They have a long time ago.

Speaker 10 (36:03):
They have.

Speaker 2 (36:04):
Well, we want to open up the phones. This is
thank Rodin greg Is Friday. That's when we open up
the phones to you to talk about whatever is on
your mind. We covered a lot of territory this week.
Yesterday we took a lot of calls on that horrible
story coming out of Box Elder County where a judge
who resigned his position yesterday and a fire chief were
charged with exploitation of children, sexual exploitation of children. So

(36:28):
we had a lot of reaction to that. A lot
of people were calling in. We didn't get to everybody,
so if you want to call, come in on that.
We also had quite a response earlier this week about
the Salt Lake Tribune deciding to docs the woman behind
a public republican not so much her but her husband's business. Yeah,
every way. We raised a lot of serious questions about that,

(36:51):
asking why that reporter felt they had to do it,
and what your reaction to that was. So a lot
of topics to talk to you about tonight. If you
didn't you get a chance to weigh in, you want
to now, the lines are open to you. Eighty eight
eight five seven eight zero one zero eight eight eight
five seven eight zero one zero, or on your cell
phone dial Pound two fifteen, say hey, Rod, do the
phones we go. Let's talk with Willie in West Bountiful. Tonight, Willie,

(37:14):
how are you welcome to the Roden Greg Show.

Speaker 15 (37:17):
I'm great. Point Number one, I don't think sundads as
much of a benefit to the Utah economy. It is
sort well, I don't even know that it is park
City because they're holding it during the peak of the
ski season when all the hotels and everything are booked up. Anyway,
if they wanted it to benefit Utah, they would move
it to the very end of the ski season when

(37:37):
the restaurants and hotels are laying off employees. If they
held it, then maybe the employees and stuff could work
another couple of weeks, and you know, they'd have hotel rooms.
Number two point, I'm gay. I've been out for thirty
five years, and I'm a minor historical figure in Utah
because I was Utah's first day mayor. But I'm against

(37:58):
Pride flags being in the classroom. In fact, I don't
know that I would even trust you know, Betsy.

Speaker 2 (38:04):
Ross Flag you talk last room, because.

Speaker 15 (38:07):
I don't know that that the UEA teachers would give
a good positive account of the American Revolution.

Speaker 10 (38:14):
Yeah don't.

Speaker 16 (38:15):
I don't trust them.

Speaker 15 (38:16):
So anyway, that's that's my beef.

Speaker 2 (38:19):
Will Willie, you make a very good point, especially thank
you for your call, especially about park City. You know,
they hold it in the middle of ski season when
the hotels are already in high demand up there, and
even attendees have complaining about traffic, about the lodging, large
corporations taking over the festival, which they do, so you know,
there have been complaints about it being in parking.

Speaker 1 (38:42):
And they have some of those Chiliga Rosewagner Theater that's downtown,
they have some there. But man, I love that Willie's comment,
What a what a great perspective one that we already
have a high it's a high peak season for tourism,
so you're not you're not. It's not like you're you're
getting anything new out of that. And then his his
concern about how flags would be politicized is legitimate. Yeah,

(39:03):
I mean everything he said is absolutely legitimate and good
policy to stay away from.

Speaker 3 (39:08):
Let's just get out of the flag.

Speaker 1 (39:09):
Can we get out of the flag business and just
go to the reading, writing, or arithmetic?

Speaker 3 (39:13):
How about that, Let's just go a lot basics.

Speaker 1 (39:15):
You can quit politicizing everything and using flags to do.

Speaker 2 (39:19):
It, all right, if you want to join us add
eight five seven eight zero one zero, or on your
cell phone just style pound two fifty and say, hey,
rod back to the phones we go.

Speaker 1 (39:27):
Let's go to Mike and Tawila. Mike, thank you for
joining us on the Rodney Rigg Show.

Speaker 16 (39:34):
Hey, I just want to say that I think you
guys are complicent in a very very sad situation with
the with the continuing Resolution. Anybody who has, anybody who
has the power to put information out like you do,
the power of the press or the power of the
microphone and the radio, got to be complicent. The continuing

(39:57):
resolution is no different than me going in my office
and printing money on my home printer. Would you disagree
with that?

Speaker 7 (40:06):
No?

Speaker 1 (40:07):
But I would ask you then what if you if
you voted no and there wasn't a continued resolution, and
in an legislative body takes math to pass something, what
would what would be the next step in your law,
in your your decision tree.

Speaker 16 (40:19):
Mike, Uh, just stop printing.

Speaker 3 (40:23):
Money, okay? So then what it's gonna.

Speaker 16 (40:26):
Have, It's gonna happen. It's gonna happen, sooner or later.
We might as well not kick the can down the
road anymore.

Speaker 1 (40:32):
Shut down the whole government at midnight just shut it
all down.

Speaker 16 (40:37):
No, let's just let's just revalue gold and make it
so that your gold is worth whatever whatever the value
of them is.

Speaker 1 (40:47):
And you would have the votes in the House and
Senate to pass that. Mic, is that what you're saying.

Speaker 16 (40:52):
That doesn't That doesn't make it right.

Speaker 1 (40:55):
I'm just saying you don't have to actually get something done.
I mean, that's the problem, that's the challenge.

Speaker 16 (40:59):
Jail as I started printing money, they'd throw me in jail.
And nothing makes that right. And talks about the President
doesn't talk about it. You guys don't talk about it.
They don't talk about it. I'm Sean Hannity, and they
don't talk about it anywhere. The fact that it's criminal
to print money.

Speaker 1 (41:19):
Well, look that's Mike. Everybody's entitled to their take. Mike
certainly is and I and I don't mind it. But
but again, if you have a legislative branch, you're gonna
have to get something done. And saying that, you're going
to say at midnight tonight that not only are we
not going to print money, we're just gonna shut it
all down.

Speaker 3 (41:36):
I I don't think you get the votes for that.

Speaker 1 (41:38):
I think most of the people that have held up
something like this, and I'm talking about the Freedom Caucus
in the House, the Republicans, the deal that gets done
is always worse. It's always spending more, it's always digging
us into a deeper hole than the than the whatever
it was that people wanted to not actually pass. And
as you see, once you put it in the Schumer's
lap and he has to deal with it, which he

(41:59):
never had to do in the House because they couldn't
actually pass anything out. Look, what's happening to their caucus
right now. It's not getting stronger. They're pretty divided. And
I think that if we get the right Republicans in
Congress will bode well for the President, for Congress, Senate,
and America.

Speaker 2 (42:14):
All right, more of your calls coming up. It is
thank Rod and Greg. It's Friday on Utah's Talk Radio
one O five nine k NRS. More your calls coming up.

Speaker 3 (42:22):
You love that Sundance Film Festival. They haven't been there.
I've been to.

Speaker 1 (42:25):
I've I've been. I've been back when Governor Huntsman was governor.
I got invited to one of their shows. It was
actually in Salt Lake City though it.

Speaker 2 (42:33):
Wasn't up in the work up in Park City.

Speaker 1 (42:35):
Yeah, so I went to one of those, and but
you know it wasn't life changing.

Speaker 3 (42:40):
I mean I don't, it's you know it was.

Speaker 2 (42:42):
Did you see any stars?

Speaker 1 (42:45):
Actually I don't. I can't recall that I did. They
probably were famous in some way.

Speaker 2 (42:50):
But you didn't recognize them. Yeah, all right. We're taking
your calls on, you know, Sundance Film Festival, should it
stay or go? Apparently there are reports that they may
leave Salt Lakes because of a bill passed by the
Utah legislature to limit political flag from the classroom, just
to kick him out completely, which I totally agree with.
I think Greg does as well. But we're also taking

(43:11):
your calls on about anything we've talked about this week,
or something that we didn't bring up that you want
to share with us. So let's go back to the phones.
Brian is in Bluff Bluffdale tonight here on Thank rodin
Greg is Friday, Hi, Brian, how.

Speaker 10 (43:23):
Are you.

Speaker 17 (43:24):
Hey?

Speaker 4 (43:25):
Guys? Wow, what a what a great two calls you
had in that last segment.

Speaker 10 (43:30):
And I have to.

Speaker 4 (43:31):
Say, whoever that mayor was, let's get him on the ballot. Again,
because I'd like to see him express his ideas how
to run Salt Lake City.

Speaker 3 (43:41):
Oh yeah, Brian, you are so right.

Speaker 4 (43:44):
You're right, yeah, exactly. And second of all, and I'm Greg,
you're gonna hate me for this. The guy who the
guy who said shutting down the government's a good idea,
I completely agree. Do you realize in twin eighteen we
had a thirty five day shutdown and nobody felt any

(44:05):
of the effects. How about we have a three hundred
and sixty five days shutdown and let's see what shakes out.
Because because in fairness, everybody's going to get paid now,
we can't deny payment of salary to the government employees.
That would be ridiculous. But in some other ways, I

(44:27):
think we could make a real impact by limiting the
kind of stupid decisions that have been made with regards
to I don't know, transgender people in Peru making a
comic book yea or whatever.

Speaker 2 (44:43):
Well, I think people need to understand Brian. You may
agree or disagree with me on this one. Greg. When
you talk about a government shutdown, it's really only a
partial government shutdown, is that correct? It is unless essential
services remain open.

Speaker 1 (44:57):
Unless you take the color who says we should since
eighteen sixty one, since we've been printing US legal tender,
we should stop all that. Then, I don't know how
you pay anybody. Yeah, but even for a partial shutdown.
But look, I'm not I think that we have to
do something. I'd like to see the doge. I'd like
to see the efficiency that's certainly the money laundering that
we're discovering in real time be addressed. I do think

(45:20):
that the economy can be a frail thing, and anything
that would collapse this economy would not. It wouldn't It
would do worse than just cut government. It could hurt
a lot deeper, but only with the idea that we
have better solutions that and we have people in charge
that can get to the heart of this and stop
the spending as reckless as it is. Let's go to
Jim in Salt Lake City. Jim, thank you for holding.

(45:41):
Welcome to the Rod and Greg Show.

Speaker 10 (45:44):
Yeah, thanks for taking my call. I first wanted to
say that I have just absolutely loved, loved what Donald
Trump was doing and finding all these corruption and all
that kind of stuff. I mean is it has been
Christmas every single day since January twenty. It is so

(46:08):
great And I got to thinking, Okay, in the past
sixty years, what have the Democrats done short term which
benefited us? Short term and long term? What policies do
the Democrats or what have they presented that have really

(46:33):
made a beneficial difference to everyone in the United States
in the short term and continued on through the long term.
I will bet you cannot think of one.

Speaker 2 (46:46):
Ah, that's a great question. I'm trying to think of
one as well. I mean, they've made government bigger, but
that certainly isn't a benefit. But the Democrats, I'm trying
to think of one.

Speaker 10 (46:58):
Why would anybody with half a brain vote for a
Democrat if you can't think of one policy, one policy
that has benefited everyone in America in the past sixty years.

Speaker 17 (47:12):
Wow?

Speaker 2 (47:13):
Do you think of one at question?

Speaker 10 (47:17):
Yeah?

Speaker 3 (47:17):
I think I don't.

Speaker 1 (47:19):
I don't think it's an overstatement to say that the
only thing that I know that Democrats do well is
to tear down. They just tear down all institutions, They
tear things down. The only thing that that comes to
my mind that you could say was was beneficial is
that in Clinton's time. But this wouldn't be President Clinton
by himself. They balanced a budget.

Speaker 3 (47:36):
They did.

Speaker 2 (47:36):
Okay, there's one thing, Well I.

Speaker 1 (47:37):
Can say they bounced a budget. Well, yeah, that's right,
that's right. I mean James Carver wouldn't speak to Clinton
for months. He was so mad at him for balancing
the budget and introducing welfare reform, which was a Republican
New Kingridge Congressional reform. But that would be it. But
that was under duress. That no, But I agree with Jim.

(47:59):
They you can't think. It doesn't there's no top of
mind that I can come to. But look at just
this the short term that he's been in office, Beyond
anything I expected.

Speaker 2 (48:08):
He keeps on winning. All right, we'll take a break,
come back with more your phone calls here on the
Rod on Greg Show eight eight eight five seven eight
zero one zero, or on your cell phone dial pound
two fifty and say hey Rod, hang on. More your
calls coming up during.

Speaker 1 (48:21):
The commercial break. One of our great listeners, All our
listeners are the smartest in all the land. Sent me
or sent us a headline from Rolling Stone magazine back
in January of twenty twenty three.

Speaker 3 (48:33):
Here's the headline two years ago. Two years ago.

Speaker 1 (48:36):
The twenty twenty three Sundance Film Festival was horny as hell,
it says underneath it the sub you know, the next
there was plenty of wild sex on display at the
parks at parks in Utah Festival in person return. Yeah,
it might not be the best look, right, I don't
know if that's a I don't know if you're putting

(48:57):
that on the on the general wards to come see
Utah as per Rolling Stones recommendation.

Speaker 16 (49:04):
Yeah.

Speaker 2 (49:05):
Maybe. All right, back to the phones we go. Let's
head up to bear Lake and see what Dale has
to say tonight on the Roden Greg Show. Hi, Dale,
how are you?

Speaker 11 (49:13):
I'm good?

Speaker 12 (49:13):
Thanks?

Speaker 11 (49:14):
Hey, I just have a quick question. I'm old enough
that when I went to school they taught me there
were three equal branches of government. Why does it seem
like the judicial is the only one that has any power?

Speaker 3 (49:28):
I agree with you, Jane.

Speaker 2 (49:29):
Are you talking Dale about the judges who were stopping
Donald Trump from carrying out the life Yeah, that's why
I thought you were bringing up it's.

Speaker 11 (49:36):
Your Yeah, unelected judge in San Francisco can stop the
President of the United States from firing someone that's not doing
their job.

Speaker 2 (49:46):
Yeah, that's a great question.

Speaker 1 (49:48):
You know it's wrong. It's absolutely wrong. It's not in
our constitution.

Speaker 3 (49:51):
I'll tell you.

Speaker 1 (49:51):
Even the one that really is under my skin right
now is they were taking away the security clearances of
all the people that were involved in that that Steele
dossier and all of this things that they were using
against President Trump. That they've decided to pull those and
a judge somehow stopped them for me being able to
pull those security clearances. I mean, they have no standing.
But hopefully this gets it makes its way to the Supreme.

Speaker 2 (50:11):
Court soon later. I think, what's going to happen to
them out of the way and Donald Trump knows this.
It's got to get to the Supreme Court, and the
Supreme Court has got to rule on his executive authority.
And a lot of the legal scholars are right now saying, hey,
he runs the executive branch and a lot of these
agencies fall under the executive branch, and he can basically
do whatever he wants. We'll have to wait and see. Dale.

(50:32):
Appreciate your phone call. Let's go to Saint George and
talk with Corey tonight here on the Roden Greg Show. Hi, Corey,
how are you.

Speaker 10 (50:39):
Great? How are you doing Robin reg.

Speaker 2 (50:41):
We're doing well. Thanks for asking.

Speaker 18 (50:44):
My two favorite guys up north here last night during
the eclip. Hey, I just wanted to sound off on
a local issue. That's a judge and firefighter up in
Boxelder County. That looks a pretty big story. I wanted
to get Greg's opinion on this. As a former legislative member,
I have an idea how to curb this issue. I

(51:06):
think we need to give all judges, police officers, firemen,
and school teachers psycho sexual evaluations as part of their
hiring process and then reevaluate them every five years with
a polygraph. I mean, if it works with sex offenders,
why can't it work to prevent this type of activity
from going on in the public sector.

Speaker 1 (51:25):
Yeah, you know what, I think you you could could
you know, I'm sure there's untatended consequences. People would probably
push back. But to your point, Corey, these are high
stress jobs. There are also jobs with an amazing amount
of public trust. Yes, the access to the public in general,
the power that they have within those individual jobs that
you've described are extraordinary. Those aren't free market jobs per se,

(51:47):
and so the scrutiny of those that are leaders or
those that are hold that public trust and that power.
It ought to be able to go through maybe a
lot higher scrutiny than what we're seeing now currently. Yesterday's
news sobers us up to that reality that there's some
streams going on there.

Speaker 3 (52:05):
I'm okay with that.

Speaker 2 (52:06):
Yeah, Corey, good, interesting idea. We should tell him to
get a warm down there, could you? And I'd like
get St.

Speaker 3 (52:12):
George Blake, Yes, we would.

Speaker 1 (52:13):
We'd like to hopefully they hope they're carbon footprints better
down there, and it is here. Let's go to Jean
and Salt Lake City. Jean, thank you for holding. Welcome
to the Rod and Greg show.

Speaker 7 (52:25):
Hi, I just wanted to call concerning the positions that
may be in excess and not needed. I was speaking
to a lady who's married to a person who's being
appointed by Trump to a directorship position over an agency.
And he was sitting up his office and three people

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walked in to water his plant in his office.

Speaker 8 (52:52):
And.

Speaker 7 (52:54):
So they watered the plant and they said, okay, well
we'll be back to water it again. He says, no,
you don't need to come in a lot of this
plan ever again. I'll watter it myself or I'll just
let it die. But we don't need that, so I
think they might be the first to go once he
gets the job.

Speaker 1 (53:14):
I love it. And don't you think there's about a
million of those types of stories. I mean, I just
think that the no show jobs, the funneling of money,
the pretend jobs that I mean that don't need that
are unnecessary. I just think it's rampant. And I would
think that anybody who wants to see spending it under
control and doesn't want to harm approach, like doesn't want

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to take away elderly people's social security, I would want
that waste and fraud identified and cut and removed.

Speaker 2 (53:44):
Yeah. No, And we have seen greg this another example.
I think of the socialistic trend of the Democratic Party.
They wanted to make the government so big that every
American would be dependent on the government and we couldn't
live without it. And that's why they're squad right now.
I mean, we're paying people to water somebody's plant and
plans in an office space. I mean, this is the

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direction the Democrats have slowly tried to take the American
people with along, and others have said, no, we don't
need this, we don't want it. We want effective, small,
efficient government, and they're now trying to do something about it.

Speaker 1 (54:20):
So one of the head executives of the Bank of
America's said, just what you're saying. Rod said that this
the government and particular the Biden administration. But the way
that govern the federal government has been moving is is
towards this greater dependency of government spending, government jobs, government programs,
where the free market is having a smaller and smaller role.
In order to reset that hard reset it where it's

(54:41):
not jobs of federal jobs and it's not the government's
you know, taking care of everything. It might feel and
at least in the short term like that's a bit
of a harsh reset, but it's absolutely necessary in the
long term because the way they've pushed this federal government
it is unsustainable. Some of the stock market jitters and
all the things we're seeing is you're seeing them pull

(55:03):
away from trying to get government jobs and growth all
from the government taxpayer side. To stop that, stem that
growth and see our private sectors and factories being built
again in this side, the free market grow again, which
we haven't seen it along.

Speaker 2 (55:17):
And that's all Donald Trump is trying to do, right
now exactly what he's doing. All right, more of your
calls coming up. Let's go to Glenn in provo before
we break. Glenn, how are you welcome to the Rod
and Gregg Show.

Speaker 7 (55:28):
Hi.

Speaker 13 (55:28):
They did something that was an unintended consequence in nineteen
ninety four, Bill Clinton. They passed and Bill Clinton signed
the so called Onto This Crime Bill, which is better
known as the Assault Weapons and a Larger Pasty Magazine Ban.
The Democrats had held Congress for forty years, and the

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following election was a tidal wave sea change that swept
Gingrich and Crew into the House and the Republicans took
control the Senate. Now they didn't have the votes to
make this law permanent. They said, well, let's just try
for ten years, and having had the House for forty years,

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they didn't They didn't think it'd be a problem for
them to then make it continuous when it expired ten
years later. But the Republicans held the House and they
let it expire. That created a excuse me, I just
come back from hiking. That created a huge demand for

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those weapons, and it became the most popular selling rifle
platform in the country, and in two thousand and eight,
the Supreme Court in a ruling called Heller versus Anyway,
they said you can't buy endguns in common use, and
that's currently the most common rifle in the nation today.

Speaker 3 (56:58):
They banned it. It changed.

Speaker 1 (57:00):
Republicans took control first time in forty years in Congress
of New Gingrich and a new deal and then and
not new deal, but the contract with America, and then
the ten years expired and the guns were never more popular.
And then we got a Supreme Court ruling saying you
can't ban them. So on the whole. Democrats didn't plan
it this way, but they did something good by waking

(57:21):
up this country, and then we are all responded.

Speaker 2 (57:23):
I'm trying to remember what happened in ninety four as
to why we put Newt in charge of the House
or right, it was Bill Clinton. Did he come into
office and really just try and take the country to
the far left? Yes, I remember he appointed Hillary to
reform healthcare. Oh, that was it was.

Speaker 1 (57:39):
Hillary Care for healthcare. It was gays in the military,
and it was it was assault weapons ban. It was
another one. So gun control. They started lurching to the
left very very quickly, and and he's right, and so
you know, New Gingrich was the minority leader at the time,
and they made a contract with American and said, these
are the things we will do to reform government. And
they had a very succinct plan and the first time

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in forty years the Republicans over.

Speaker 2 (58:04):
All, Right, more coming up, more years, more your phone
calls right here on the Rotting Greg Show and Utah's
Talk Radio one O five nine k n rs.

Speaker 1 (58:11):
Good comments, good, good, good participation.

Speaker 2 (58:15):
Stuart Adams, the President of the Utah Senate, will be
joining us coming up at six oh five. We tried
to talk he blew us off last week. Can you
believe that.

Speaker 3 (58:21):
Did not blew us off? That was a last day,
that is the last legator.

Speaker 2 (58:26):
He's a bit buddy from blew us off.

Speaker 3 (58:28):
It's a bit fun, it's a bit hectic.

Speaker 2 (58:30):
Totally understand. Yes, he'll be joining. Interesting interesting discussion this
week that came up concerning the legislature. Greg and you
being a former covering public covering public service. The question
was does Utah pass too many laws?

Speaker 3 (58:45):
Yeah?

Speaker 2 (58:46):
I mean lawmakers introduced seven hundred and sixty two bills
in this session. They passed five hundred and eighty two.

Speaker 3 (58:53):
Yeah, it's yes. I think. So here's here's the challenge, though.
I gotta tell you change.

Speaker 1 (58:58):
You're duly elected, you have a district, you ran, people
voted for you. Do you put a glass ceiling over
the representatives' heads and the districts they represent in terms
of you can only run two bills three bills, there
is a certain amount you can't run anymore? Or what
do you do to actually pull that back and get

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them to slow down? Because you know, it's such a
short session that there's so many things that it is
a reactive body by nature because it's such a short session.
So you have a lot of people that ask for
and make cases for, or the lawmaker runs into situations
themselves where they see that a law has an unintended
consequence or something like that. It's hard to really govern

(59:40):
that artificially and say you just can't be as involved
or you can't run as many.

Speaker 3 (59:44):
I will tell you this.

Speaker 1 (59:45):
I ran one year in my sixteen sessions more than
ten bills, and it was so busy, and I was
spending so much time in other, you know, committees, presenting
my bill and doing that that my time at serving
on a committee was just undercut too much. And I
vowed never to run that many bills ever. Again, you
ran ten, so I ran over ten, I ran like
eleven or but it was just too many and they

(01:00:08):
were all good I stand by. But it's just that volume.
And so I see some lam lawmakers where they've got
twenty bills in they're key. I don't even know how
they do it, how they're ever attending their own committee
hearings that they're supposed to be hearing bills in when
they're running that many bills.

Speaker 2 (01:00:22):
But I haven't a question on that. Greg of the
five and eighty two mills that were passed this year,
what percentage of those bills just made adjustments or policy
changes and not like new laws because you look at
you think they're all new laws. Well, most ofm are
just adjustments, aren't.

Speaker 3 (01:00:39):
They They are.

Speaker 1 (01:00:39):
And so what it is is that you'll have a
bill and you'll see current statute with a line through
it where they're taking language out, and you'll see lines
that are underlined with new language in h. So that's
that's what every bill looks like. So it's always revisiting
the current statute in some way, shape or form. Maybe
you're adding new details to it. But you're also striking

(01:01:00):
things out, and so a lot of bills are just
taking well not a lot, I would argue, all bills
really are taking existing statute taking out the things. So
if you want to have just nothing but government efficiency,
it takes a bill.

Speaker 2 (01:01:12):
Yeah.

Speaker 1 (01:01:13):
So when we hear that a billsman filed, you think, oh,
that's a new law. That law might include just a
ton of striking of language.

Speaker 2 (01:01:20):
So what are kind of thun Yeah, so it's just
some adjustments, all right. Well, coming up our number three
at the Rod and Greg Show, Stuart Adams, President of
the Utah Senate, we'll join us. We'll talk about that,
we'll talk about the International Sportsman's Expo, which opens up
next week in Salt Lake City. Creig and I will
be there live on Thursday. Stay with us. Our number
three coming up, the Utah Legislature. The twenty twenty five

(01:01:43):
session of the Utah Legislature wrapped up a week ago today.
As a matter of fact, last Friday night, passing bills
and setting the agenda for the state in the coming year.
We were hoping to talk with Senate President Stuart Adams
last week, but he was kind of busy.

Speaker 1 (01:01:57):
It's the Yeah, I'm just going to say, having been
there that last night, especially once you get into the
after lunch or after dinner time.

Speaker 2 (01:02:05):
It's go time. Yeah, it's tough. Well, he's been able
to join us now on our newsmaker line, even though
he's a week late for a weekly conversation. But Stuart,
thanks for joining us tonight. Have you recovered so far
or yet from the twenty twenty five session.

Speaker 19 (01:02:22):
I'm not sure I've recovered, may have a little hangover,
but I'm hanging in there.

Speaker 12 (01:02:26):
That is a fast.

Speaker 11 (01:02:27):
Forty five days.

Speaker 19 (01:02:28):
There's a lot going on, but that's what's great about it,
it's only forty five days.

Speaker 1 (01:02:33):
Well, you were good enough to join us every Friday
during the general session to kind of give us an
idea of what you were working on. And it is
a very very fast paced for one of the shortest
general sessions in America for a state legislature. But maybe
you can now that you've had a week to think
about it and the dust is settled. What are the
things you'd want our listeners to know that you were
able to get done in this last general session.

Speaker 19 (01:02:57):
Our number one priority sided education with energy. We know
we're arm traced with China and we need to have
we need to be able to control AI. We can't
let that technology go to China. And we have the
lowest electric rates in the country in Utah. So we
passed legislation Center standdle with at the forefront of it
that ensures us to be able to have those low

(01:03:18):
electric rates that we all enjoy in Utah, but actually
to allow these data centers and other big energy users
coming into the state. That took most of the session.
I'm very proud of that. We're going to continue to
focus on all types of energy, everything from geothermal to
natural gas to coal. We're working on the IPT trying

(01:03:38):
to take advantage of that, and nuclear. We're going to
make sure Utah is the center for nuclear innovation for
not only the country, probably for.

Speaker 2 (01:03:46):
The rule President. How are you doing that? Is is
it an investment of state dollars? How are you doing
that to ensure we keep those low cost energy rates
going well.

Speaker 19 (01:03:54):
One of the things we want to make sure these
big users command that that don't create more demand and
raise the interestation. So we made sure that when they command,
they got to provide their own power. And then we
set a format to be a streamline format that Rocky
Mountain Power can actually permit them outside of the Public
Service process, which actually allows it to be done faster

(01:04:15):
and again not effect rates, So again helping them command
and be able to make sure that the Public Service
Commission ensures that eats rates. Combination of both.

Speaker 1 (01:04:26):
So when I was on the clock, we you and
I we entered as House members together way way back
in the day, but we really only stared at tax
relief and tax cuts for Utah's when we saw a
very strong or robust surplus. It was the economy did grow.
You did see you saw more money arrive in terms
of than what you budgeted. But I would have argued

(01:04:48):
that it might not be a year for tax relief
given all the years that you've done it prior. But
every time we talked to you during the session, you
were saying, now we're going to see that those tax cuts.
We're going to see tax relief in addition to all
these priorities and a grow state. How did the tax
picture fair at the end of the session. Did you
cut taxes like you thought?

Speaker 19 (01:05:06):
Greg? We've cut taxes again again again again now five
years and again a cut income tax and people say
it's a small tax. When you add them all together,
it is the largest tax pet in the history of
the state of Utah. We not only kept income tax,
we capped the Social Security tax. If you make less
than ninety thousand dollars a year, you don't pay any

(01:05:29):
Social Security tax. We gave a child tax credit to
actually helped families with children, and so I think we
did it all. And in addition to that, I mean,
we've cut taxes, and everybody can cut taxes, but we
also funded education again at record levels, a four percent
increase in the WPU, one thousand dollars, additional direct salary increase,

(01:05:53):
the features and one of the things I'm most excited
about is we pay their support staff one thousand dollars bonus.
I've heard from uh my daughter works at as a
teacher at an elementary school. The cooks in the elementary
school are so thrilled to get their thousand dollars bonus.
Plus we FA but we find it supplies and gave
teachers additional days for preparation. You can't do tax cuts

(01:06:15):
and do both of those. Of that A strong economy
and used to have the strongest economy in the country.

Speaker 2 (01:06:20):
President, Is there anything I can do to get you
to raise that Social Security limit just a little bit?

Speaker 19 (01:06:25):
So that's what we just we just want We just
wanted to stay engaged.

Speaker 20 (01:06:32):
For next year. President get ready, I'm.

Speaker 12 (01:06:40):
Predict we're going to cut taxes.

Speaker 7 (01:06:43):
Ready.

Speaker 19 (01:06:44):
We are not done.

Speaker 2 (01:06:45):
Is there one issue that really surprised you during this
session that you didn't see coming.

Speaker 19 (01:06:50):
Oh, there were lots of issues. I don't think one
that surprised me. What's something I'm really proud of would
get is we actually our election systems. We've heard a
lot about that we want safe, cure elections, but we
also want it to be easy for people to vote.
And so we did that, and you know, Speaker shows
pushed that a lot, and we did a masterful job.
And I take my hat off to him, but we

(01:07:11):
found balance and every idea I come up with it
better as it goes through the process. Even his idea
got substantially better that went through. We're actually allow people
to opt in a long period of time and then
we're actually unit with that opt in process. Well, we're
going to do vote by mail, so people get to
use their vote by mail. All they need to do
is do what makes sense, and that's to show proper

(01:07:34):
id it's actually probably going to be a model election
policy for the nation. And I don't know if that
surprised me, that it took a lot of work to
get done. It's something I think I'm really proud of, you.

Speaker 3 (01:07:45):
Know, on that topic.

Speaker 1 (01:07:46):
It just occurred to me though that this week we
saw that there were indictments handed down on a signature
gathering company that looks like it appears either or that
they are accused of forging as signatures in the signature
gathering process. Uh. Did your today of the legislation this
year touch on the transparency of signature gathering or uh

(01:08:06):
or any aspect of that, because when you see those
those uh, you know, those indictments come down, it doesn't
make you worry about signatures generally. Are they can we
scrutinize them? Are they safe?

Speaker 12 (01:08:16):
Yeah?

Speaker 19 (01:08:17):
Yeah, we did, and we have electronic capacity right now.

Speaker 12 (01:08:20):
We yeah, we we now signatures we show up, you.

Speaker 19 (01:08:24):
Can actually do it electronically and require that to be
done at the doorstep, so you actually take people's name
and you can't. We're trying to crack down and gaming
that system. So yes, we did that as part of
that election process. So that's a big deal. Good and
we're and we're on it.

Speaker 2 (01:08:40):
As you look forward to next year, President, what do.

Speaker 19 (01:08:42):
You see, Well, that's that's the end. We're going to
find education and we're and we're gonna, we're gonna we're
going to work on energy. We're going to keep the
state going. We're going to have the strongest economy. You know. Uh,
I say it over and over again that we best
have the best economy in the nation. Two years running
in US Day's and World Report, seventeen years running in

(01:09:06):
rich states for states. But one of the things I'm
most proud of is we're most giving state of the nation.
So somebody came out this week that I'm also more
proud of, and the reason Utah has a real strong economy,
and that is what the least dependent on federal dollars.
We believe in pre market, limited government, we believe in
the private sector, the private sector prize of the economy.

(01:09:27):
We are the least government dependent on federal dollars. That's
something I'm really proud of. And we're going to try
to stay independent and we're going to keep our economy
strong in Utah.

Speaker 2 (01:09:36):
On our newspager line. Stuart Adams, president of the Utah Senate,
sounds like he's doing okay.

Speaker 3 (01:09:40):
That's right.

Speaker 1 (01:09:41):
Looks like they left the place better than they found it.
That's always the week.

Speaker 2 (01:09:45):
We can only hope, we can only hope, right, all right,
more coming up. We're all talk about a big expo
taking place in Utah next weekend. That's coming up right
here on the Roden greg Show in Utah's Talk Radio
one oh five nine can arrests to a big event
coming up next weekend at the Amountain America Expo Center
in Sandy. It is the International Sportsman's Expo. And joining

(01:10:05):
us on our newsmaker line is the director of communications
for the Expo. John Kirk. Good friend. We've had John
on the show over the years. John, thanks for joining
us tonight. Let's talk about the ex Bow. What are
some of the big things coming up this year at
the Expo?

Speaker 17 (01:10:17):
John, Well, they always look for what's new, and we've
we know what people love and the number one thing
is fishing tackle. So we have expanded our fishing tackle offerings,
not just with more lures, but with other rods and
reels and tackle boxes and down riggers and some other stuff,

(01:10:40):
and to support that, we've got more boat dealers, five
boat dealers this year, so offering a greater line of
fishing boats. I think people are if you look at
the statistics, Utah is very popular for overlanding and off roading.
We've got all of our shows this year have had
an expanded overlanding category with the vehicles as well as accessories.

(01:11:07):
We've also got a new survival campsite, which is kind
of an interesting trend. Most of our shows the are
near downtown areas.

Speaker 5 (01:11:18):
And.

Speaker 17 (01:11:20):
Issues with homelessness and other things have concerned a lot
of people rightfully so, and people who often don't go
to the city are are increasingly nervous about going to
the city and encountering unexpected things. And so, in addition
to talking about survival in the back country, we've introduced

(01:11:42):
in several of our shows, you know, what do you
do when you go downtown? And mostly it's mental awareness
and being prepared to deal with something you just haven't
you know, experience before, and that makes people more comfortable.
Just the state of our world now unfortunately.

Speaker 1 (01:12:04):
Yeah, So you know, the thing that I'm excited about
is that, you know, I think anyone from Utah knows
that there's so much to do in our state and
getting outdoors, and I'm sure that that is such a
huge draw for your for the for the Sportsman's Expo,
but talk about it has a regional draw the Mountain States.
You're not just it's not just going to be for Utah.
There's going to be a lot of people from around

(01:12:25):
other states coming and really highlighting the Mountain West, both
by those that attend your expo and things that people
can do just even if they get outside the state
of Utah.

Speaker 15 (01:12:35):
Oh.

Speaker 17 (01:12:36):
Absolutely, I mean, Utah is one of the top outdoor
states in the country. And if you look at the
growth of outdoor recreation compared to the growth of the population,
outdoor recreation is growing two to three times faster than
your population growth, which is growing pretty fast. But yeah,

(01:12:57):
I mean, we have people who come from Wyoming, from Idaho,
some from Nevada, some from Colorado, and some farther away.
So we do draw and throughout throughout Utah, of course,
and they're looking for not just gear, but and our
show is very strong on destinations in Utah, throughout the

(01:13:18):
West and then other places in the world, whether it's
Alaska or Canada, Mexico, South America and even South Africa's
they have several safari folks.

Speaker 2 (01:13:31):
I was going to ask you, John, what are some
of the more popular destinations that people seek out when
they come to the Expo.

Speaker 17 (01:13:38):
Well, theast proportion of people who go outdoors go outdoors locally,
and you know that for a lot of reasons. But
then you know, top destinations in our show wether than
Utah would be California and Colorado. Often it's driven by
if they want to go hunting and they can't get

(01:13:58):
a tag here, they could go to Colorado because it's
a lot easier and they're more elk. For example, could
be California to go to saltwater fishing. And Canada and
Alaska in particular are huge destinations for folks, whether to
escape you know, warm weather or what. But I've noticed
a lot of families and it's just an annual go

(01:14:19):
to to somewhere in Alaska.

Speaker 1 (01:14:22):
I'm a dog guy or family, the Huge Family, Where
dog Got Dog Family, Agility dog Demos it's a new
special feature at your at the Expo this year, and
also the Sporting Dog Arena. What do you got for
the pooches?

Speaker 17 (01:14:38):
But you know some people. You know a lot of
people come to the show as couples and the girlfriend
or the wife may go outdoors as much as the
husband or boyfriend, but maybe they don't, but they still
want to do something as a couple. And I'll tell
you a little story in a second, but it really

(01:14:58):
moved me last year. But so, the Dog Arena is
a place where you can sit down, you can relax,
you can watch training for your sporting dogs, you can
or you can talk about and watch experts talking about obedience.
And this year just for fun where we have the
Sunset Hills Dog Training and they do agility events around

(01:15:21):
the area and we want them to come in just
to show because it's so much fun to watch that.
And a lot of people use agility as a way
to train their dogs and be more comfortable with their
dogs and also do something exciting with their dogs, you know,
rather than if they don't hunt or walk their dog agilities.

Speaker 2 (01:15:41):
You know, a blast John Yetta story. You said you
wanted to share. What's that story?

Speaker 10 (01:15:46):
Yeah?

Speaker 17 (01:15:47):
Quickly. I mean I'm walking around the show floor the
whole time, and I saw two young bucks with both
with baby carriages, and I was walking and I thought, well,
that's kind of cool. You don't usually see that, you know,
And I said, I stopped him and I said, first,
can I take your picture? And they said yeah, so
I did, and then I said, are you guys here alone?

(01:16:09):
They said no, we're here with our wives. And I said,
well where are they and they said, well, we don't know,
but they're having a good time and they're doing their
own thing. And I said, you got, you got, you
got the Budgies hunt and they said yeah. And I said,
is that kind of a pain and they said no, man,
you know, this is awesome. And it just it moved
me because our shows have been around for fifty years.

(01:16:30):
This is our fiftieth year, not in Utah but at
a company. And you know, a lot of the people
who still come to the show are traditional and older
forty five plus because they've been coming for a literally
a generation. And to see the young people in Utah
has always been a relief to me because if you

(01:16:52):
if you think that they're the outdoors is in danger,
you come to Utah and you not only see more
young people per than you would in our other but
you see more families and believing as we do in
the value of the outdoors, not just as a great place,
but in terms of learning how to be resourceful and

(01:17:14):
how to be together as a group, and how to
you know, basically take care of the outdoors your world.
Outdoors is more than just a thing, you know, a
fun thing. And that's really what moves me is when
I feel comfortable that there's going to be a future
for what uh you know is you know, I'm not

(01:17:34):
probably going to be around to.

Speaker 2 (01:17:35):
See John Kirk he is with the International Sportsman's expos
See he didn't get as mad at us saying that
talking about the X And by the way, we'll be
there next Thursday, boy, talk about fish out of water.
We'll be there next Thursday.

Speaker 3 (01:17:50):
You'll never know.

Speaker 15 (01:17:51):
I'm not.

Speaker 3 (01:17:51):
I'm not. I'll be all about it.

Speaker 2 (01:17:53):
I was born there with fishing fly stuck in your hat.

Speaker 1 (01:17:58):
Yeah you think that I was born in the wilderness
when you see me there, I'm just gonna I'm just
gonna fake it till I make it.

Speaker 2 (01:18:03):
Can't wait till I see that. All right? More coming
up on the Rotting Greg Show, Our Listen Back Friday
segments coming your way right here. On Utah's Talk Radio
one oh five nine knrs. Now, the question is, Greg,
if they get this continued resolution out of the way,
is it time to move on to the to the
President's tax plan.

Speaker 1 (01:18:22):
One hundred percent. You're saying, this is a little hanging fruit.
You got to get that tax plan. That is not
a tax cut. It is just keeping our taxes from
going up. And I don't care what the Democrats want
to tell you. There's no billionaires in this equation. We're
talking your household income will go up an average of
three thousand dollars of taxes three thousand dollars of household immediately.
If they let those taxes go up. They need the

(01:18:42):
tax package and extending the current tax rate to go forward.

Speaker 2 (01:18:46):
As part of our Listen Back Friday segment, we want
to share with you now an interview we did earlier
this week with Phil Kerpin. Phil is president of American Commitment,
and he talked about the tax site and they needed
to pass it immediately. And I asked Phil, first of all,
all the clock is ticking. When are they going to
get this done?

Speaker 14 (01:19:02):
Well, the House and the President want to the Senate leadership.
Kind of a weird situation right now. The House and
Senate have each passed a budget resolution, but they're very different.
The House budget resolution has a large instruction to the
Tax Writing Committee, the Ways and Means Committee to do
a fulsome extension of all of the expiring Trump tax

(01:19:23):
cuts that'll prevent three thousand dollars per household TAXI Like,
we're staring down at the end of this year, and
they want to do no tax on tips, no tax
on overtime, no tax on Social Security. The Senate Republicans
have done a budget that has zero tax provisions of
any kind. They want to do a budget that just
increases border and defense with so offsetting cuts, and then
come back and do a second budget later in the

(01:19:45):
year they would address tax which if it sounds overly ambitious,
it's because it's never been done in the history of
the country, two budgets in the same year.

Speaker 12 (01:19:53):
So a lot.

Speaker 14 (01:19:54):
Of people, including myself, are skeptical of that strategy. And
we're at this bit of a standoff right now where
the the House has passed a pretty good budget, the
President supports it, but the Senate is kind of saying,
we don't like what the House did on tax cuts
in their budget because we want a permanent extension of
all the expiring tax provisions, and the House probably only

(01:20:14):
gets to an eight or nine year extension, although s
equal I agree with the Senate it should be permanent.
But there's something really bizarre going on when that's the
excuse that they're giving. But meanwhile they're pushing a budget
resolution with no tax provisions at all. So at the
moment they're in a bit of a standoff. The House
is not taking up the Senate pass budget, the Senate
is not taking up the House pass budget. I hope

(01:20:35):
that we'll see some more pressure from the President on
the Senate to act, as he has endorsed the House version.
What I really think should happen is the Senate should
take up the House pass budget, ideally amend it to
make all the tax provisions permanent, and send it back over.
But at least get the process moving so we can
get this agreed to and move to the step of
actually right in the bill.

Speaker 1 (01:20:57):
Phil, I love the way you frame this in Cancel
the tax hike immediately. I can't get people to repeat
back to me, and I'm talking whether they're members of
elected officials or not. They want to keep talking about
this or framing it as if it's a tax cut,
and we want to take a tax cut, and we'd
like to deliver a tax cut going forward. There is
no tax cut. It is the current tax rate of

(01:21:19):
which we have. We're talking the Trump tax cuts of
twenty seventeen. Twenty seventeen.

Speaker 14 (01:21:24):
Well, that's the new ones he wants also, But.

Speaker 1 (01:21:26):
Yeah, he does, he has new ones. But the idea
that you would have to pay, I hear this out
of the center all the time. Well, we have to pay,
we have to pay for that tax cut. You don't
have to pay to not raise someone's taxes.

Speaker 3 (01:21:36):
It doesn't. It absolutely doesn't track.

Speaker 14 (01:21:38):
I agree with you. I agree with you on that.
And it is a fact that in the two years
after the tax cuts took effect, the federal government brought
in more money in total revenue than in the two
years before it took effect. And so you can say, oh,
but it would have risen by even more, and you know, well,
he'll never know for sure. But one thing we too
know is revenue didn't go down, and we cut taxes

(01:22:00):
and in fact, a lot of money came back into
the US that have been sitting abroad overseas, and we
saw a lot of the things that we wanted, and
we saw a huge rise in real incomes in the
couple of years after the tax cuts passed. And you know,
you're right, if the tax cuts took effect, they if
it passed in twenty seventeen, took effect in the beginning
of twenty eighteen. That's a long time ago. Now we've

(01:22:21):
been living up with them for seven years. And so
this idea that you know, if we go back to
the way the tax code was before that, you know,
that's normal.

Speaker 12 (01:22:28):
That's what we should assume.

Speaker 14 (01:22:29):
And to extend it is a tax cut. Nobody thinks
that way. If your tax rates are the same next
year as they were this year, that's just them saying
the same. But if Congress fails to act, and the
standard deduction is cut in half, and the all the
rates go up, and the small business twenty percent exclusion
goes away, and so small businesses go from paying twenty
nine percent to paying forty percent, and the death tax

(01:22:51):
exemption is cut in half, and the child credit is
cut in half, all these other things that are scheduled
to occur come January first. If Congress doesn't get its
back together, nobody will feel that as oh, well that
was already in the loss of my tax Exactly, I'm
paying thousands of dollars more in taxes.

Speaker 1 (01:23:06):
And the idea that the Senate's like, well, we're going
to raise your taxes because because the House only wanted
to do it for nine years, not forever, so we're
just gonna have to go ahead and raise them, I
just can't even hear. I just can't accept the logic
that a tax cut is inevitable.

Speaker 12 (01:23:18):
Unless you make it.

Speaker 14 (01:23:19):
You're not saying it quite that way. What they're saying is,
you know, we only we're against the House resolution because
their budget doesn't get to permanent. But here's our resolution,
which doesn't do anything on taxes at all. But trust us,
by the end of the year, we'll do another one
and that will cover.

Speaker 1 (01:23:34):
Tax You're being very fair. I like the fair mindedness
of your of your argument. I all I hear is
my taxes are going up until someone leaves that code alone,
and and I need to see that in print somewhere
and voted on.

Speaker 3 (01:23:46):
So I agree with what you're saying.

Speaker 14 (01:23:48):
Yeah, you know, look, the sooner they do it, the better.
And here's the other thing, like, let's say the Senate
plan could actually work, and they get they passed this
first budget, and they passed this first reconciliation building they
do a second whole budget props and they passed that.
Let's say that that all could work the way they
want it to. Okay, how early in the year could
that possibly all get done? Realistically? November December more likely. Well,

(01:24:11):
by the time you get.

Speaker 12 (01:24:11):
That late in the year, how many things?

Speaker 14 (01:24:13):
How much economic damage has already been done just from Hey,
I can't invest because I don't know what the tax
rate is going to be next year. Hey, my taxes
might be going up. I'm not going to make that purchase.
You know, there'll be a lot of economic damage between
now and then, even if they did eventually get it done.
And I'm not convinced they would eventually get it done,
so I want it done.

Speaker 12 (01:24:28):
I'm the same as you.

Speaker 14 (01:24:29):
I want it done as soon as possible. I liked
when the President said get it on my desk by
Memorial Day. I don't think the Senate thought the House
could do what they did and pass a budget resolution
with a big instruction for the tax cuts, and they
got it done. And the Senate needs to get in
line now.

Speaker 2 (01:24:43):
Really Phil Kirpin from the American Commitment, he's president of
that and he sees the urgency as well. Greg. And
it's got to get done. I mean, what are we
waiting for.

Speaker 1 (01:24:52):
Yeah, you just got to keep it from raising our taxes.
I mean we've had enough. And that's all that we're
talking about is we do not want our taxes increase. No,
we do not.

Speaker 2 (01:24:59):
All right, Coming up on the Rodden Greg Show in
Utah's Talk Radio one oh five nine can arress our next.

Speaker 3 (01:25:04):
Guest, thank you, our next interview. This is the guy
to talk to.

Speaker 2 (01:25:08):
His name is Kurt Schlickter. We talked to him earlier
this week. We want to play back in an interview
we do with Kirk. He as a columnist at town
Hall and attorney event. Kind of a shy guy. When
you say no, no, he is not a shy guy. Well,
we wanted to talk to Kurt about a number of things.
He wrote a great article this week about the fact
that Democrats are just not normal. But before we got

(01:25:30):
into that, we want to ask him about an incident
that we saw a couple of months ago in which
he was being kicked off a British talk show. It
was pretty funny, and we asked Kurt about then to
explain what happened, Well, the British.

Speaker 20 (01:25:42):
Were The British host was a little upset because he
heard something that he hadn't heard in a long time,
which is someone opposing the party line. As you know
in Great Britain that used to be a beacon of freedom,
they now arrest people for saying things, if you can
believe it. So he was a little upset when I
started telling him that some of the things that he

(01:26:03):
was so certain about were actually not true at all.

Speaker 1 (01:26:08):
As far as I'm concerned, sir, you are a legend.
Nothing like watching a stuffy brit just lose his mind
and wants you to leave a show. I just I
would encourage you to get on any of those programs
across the pond that you can get on, because they, again,
you were just speaking common sense and they're just not
used to that. It was a really good, a really
good interview. I just we were excited to talk to

(01:26:29):
you again. Let me ask you this. It kind of
goes along the same lines as the article you've recently written.
Democrats They're not that normal, are they?

Speaker 20 (01:26:41):
Man, They're going crazy, right, I really don't understand it.
Donald Trump has this superpower, and I read that in
town hall on Thursday the thirteenth, that he can make
his enemies take the most ridiculous positions possible. I mean,
they come out against cutting cutting government, they come in

(01:27:03):
for men walking into women's restrooms, and now they finally
found some freedom of speech allegedly because they're very concerned
about that is a terrorist guy from some foreign hellhole
who literally advocates the murder of all the Jews, to
be followed by everybody else. It's remarkable, Kurt.

Speaker 2 (01:27:25):
What is it with the Democrats that they're so afraid
of making Donald Trump appear normal? What frightens about a
normal Donald Trump?

Speaker 20 (01:27:34):
Well, see, here's the problem. You can think what you
want about Donald Trump, but about forty nine point nine
percent of Americans voted for him. So what you're essentially
saying when you say that Donald Trump is beyond the
pale is half of America is beyond the pale, and
not only shouldn't be listened to, but is actively evil
and must be suppressed. And I don't know about you.

(01:27:56):
I was twenty seven years in the army. I'm kind
of attached to being a citizen and having all the
rights that entail a little I'm kind of picky about
it and insistent.

Speaker 3 (01:28:08):
So I don't understand the game plan. I mean, I've
heard it said a lot of times.

Speaker 1 (01:28:12):
They're taking the twenty percent of favorability while Donald Trump
is pursuing an eighty percent super majority of people that
agree with or support his efforts. And so you'd think
there'd be a pivot. You'd think they'd say, yeah, we're
against waste as well, but they're not. It seems like
they want you to feel worse about a government employee,

(01:28:32):
even with a no show job, being demonized or harmed
more so than any of us were during COVID. They
wanted to shut down all of our businesses, all of
our employment. They didn't want us to go to work.
There was just such a callousness and a conformity that
they pushed that they are now trying to convince the
same people they did this too, that the government workers,

(01:28:53):
even though you can't find, are worth caring about or
fighting to protect.

Speaker 3 (01:28:59):
Why are we not seeing that pivot?

Speaker 20 (01:29:02):
Well, look, I don't know, but I mean it's a
it's a terrible idea because people remember what they saw.
I think at some level they think normal Americans are
kind of dumb and need their guidance. But normal Americans
aren't dumb. Normal Americans are brilliant, and normal Americans can
see obvious stuck. Well, if I was a Democrat, I
would look at this situation. I'd try to look objectively

(01:29:26):
and I would say, hey, I've got to reach out
to normal people. And there have been some minor attempts
to do that. Betterman does it every once in a while.
Newsom's actually going on and having conservatives on his podcasts
and saying, you know, maybe having a dude with the
whole package swinging around ain't the guy to have in
your girls locker room. You know, kind of a very a,

(01:29:47):
very normal things. But you've got to remember a lot
of these people have taken that space inside every human
being that should be filled with you know, family, faith
and the flag, and and they created this kind of
weird secular pagan religion that is leftism, so that they
cannot conceive that anybody who disagrees with them isn't anything

(01:30:10):
but evil. And they live in bubbles so they never
have to defend themselves like this British guy. You know
that the other person who was on with me with
some reporter based in Washington, d C. Now, if you're
a reporter based in Washington, d C. Reporting to Britain
on America, do you think you're getting a balanced, nuanced view.

Speaker 12 (01:30:35):
Yeah?

Speaker 20 (01:30:36):
No, no, I mean, look, the best thing the Democrats
could do is realize, you know, maybe people disagree with us,
and maybe that's okay, and maybe I should convince them
instead of saying they're racist. I mean, look, I was
in the Cold War. I trained Ukrainian soldiers in Ukraine. Okay,
I've got my take that Russia bona fides down. Yet

(01:31:00):
every time I go, you know, you know, I don't know.
I'm just a Warkolledge graduate and old colonel, but I
think Ukraine's gonna have trouble winning this war. Maybe we
ought to figure out a different way. I get told
that I love Putin, Okay, I demonstrably don't love Putin.
All right, there are no KGB guys that I love.
But that's not an argument. That's just shut up. I'm

(01:31:22):
sticking my fingers in my ears and going la la la, la,
la la la. I can't hear you, you know, they
better hear us, or or we're gonna make them hear us.

Speaker 2 (01:31:30):
Yeah, Kurt, is the hate for Donald Trump so deep
in their very fiber that they can't even recognize the
ability to try and work with him or do something
that benefits the American people? Is the hate? Does the
hate run so deep?

Speaker 13 (01:31:47):
Yes?

Speaker 20 (01:31:47):
But remember, like with all things leftists do, like Olenski said,
find a target, personalize it, and freeze it. They have
taken their hatred for normal Americans and put it on
Donald Trump. When they say I hate Donald Trump, what
they hate is the soldier, the farmer, the guy who
goes to work at the insurance company, the mom who
stays home with her kids, the people who go to church,

(01:32:13):
the people who refuse to accept their bizarre communist ideology.
They hate normal Americans. And it reads like, well, we
hate Donald Trump. But if it was only Donald Trump,
it would have stopped during the four years of Biden.

Speaker 8 (01:32:28):
But it didn't.

Speaker 2 (01:32:29):
Kirchlickter with town Hall talking about that Democrats just aren't
normal and his experience with a British talk show.

Speaker 1 (01:32:36):
We got to get a gig like that, we got
to get show.

Speaker 3 (01:32:39):
Yes, I'd be so happy.

Speaker 1 (01:32:40):
I would I want one of those stuffy crossed upon
shows dinner and invite us on, and I want to
just make them so mad they just cut us off
and swear that they'll never have the Rodden Gregg Show
on again.

Speaker 2 (01:32:51):
That would be fun. That would be bat abby. May
have some connections over there, she could arrange.

Speaker 10 (01:32:56):
That for us.

Speaker 3 (01:32:56):
We have to talk here about that.

Speaker 2 (01:32:57):
You just never know, all right, for us tonight, as
we see each and every night, head up, shoulders back.
May God bless you and your family. That's great country
of ours, mister Hughes. Have a nice weekend you as well, Sir.
We will be back on Monday at four. Have a
good weekend everybody, and be safe out there.

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