The Rod and Greg Show: Student Attitudes Following Kirk Shooting; Red vs. Blue States Affordability

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Speaker 1 (00:00):
B YU fans relaxed. Kloni says he's not going anywhere.

Speaker 2 (00:03):
I think that Kloni Satak coach Colonia Stock, he did.
He didn't ask for this. It's it's a season. You
see it with Lang Kiffin from ole Miss going over
to LSU and getting paid of kings King's ransom for it.
He was approached by Apparently he was approached by Penn
State offered one one report saying one hundred million dollars.
BYU has never as a school has never seen one

(00:25):
of the They've never lived through a day where one
of their coaches was being highly recruited by a Power
five conference, a Big ten school like Notre Dame to
the tune of one hundred million dollars. Well, Klinias Stock,
He's done very well at BYU. There's a lot of it.
They're enjoying a lot of success.

Speaker 1 (00:40):
And I don't really care, Margaret.

Speaker 2 (00:42):
This is Era's favorite topic. And I think that what
happened is uh Kilani did what any good? They had
to hear it out. He had listened, Sure, wouldn't you? Yeah?
And I think that I don't know that that that
if that one hundred million number is real, I don't
know the Bay you would have matched it. But I
think what Colonia STATALKI what I'm reading he wanted is

(01:03):
because it is the world of Nile where you have
to pay players to come in. He wanted to know
that there was cash in the in the bank with
the boosters to do so. And I think he wanted
his coaching staff's salaries to reflect closer what big twelve
schools coaching assistant coaches look like, so that he could
keep his assistant coaches.

Speaker 3 (01:20):
And at the end of the day he stayed.

Speaker 2 (01:22):
But I think that his handling of that and resolving
it quickly because they got the big championship game Saturday,
good for Colin wall The complaining about by you and
all the people that have been complained that everybody was
pulling out their wallet. It's all the rich people from
the Alias church are pulling out their wallets to give
him money. There stay people didn't like that, But I

(01:43):
don't know LSU did it. It seems like it's kind
of the thing in college football right now.

Speaker 1 (01:47):
Are you ready for a bold prediction? Yeah, Kolonia Sataki
will never leave BYU. I you know what, I I
don't think he wants to. I think he loves working
with the guys. I think he sees this as part
of a mission on his part to really build up
this team. And I don't think Colonie Sadaki will ever
go anywhere I think other than By. That's my opinion.

Speaker 2 (02:06):
I think that I agree with you, but that was
contingent on what by you would do in response to
the overture that the Nitney Lions make. If they just
said that's that's out of our league, by I think
he would have taken that. I think that that b
YU is seeing their their their brand really has grown
in the Big twelve. They're having a great season, They're
going to be in the championship game. A lot of

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people are talking about BYU. I think there's a value
that I think that from that end, so I think
he wanted to stay if but how could you not
work at this station. We love the free market. We
we believe in the free market, Yes we do. One
wouldn't you want to know what your market value is?

Speaker 3 (02:42):
Wouldn't want to know what the going rate is?

Speaker 2 (02:44):
Going rate for Klonie Sataki, if you believe the reports
is one hundred, I don't know how many years that included,
but that seems like a big number.

Speaker 1 (02:51):
You know you mentioned there are reports that one of
the demands he wanted his assistant coaches to be better yep,
better paid, right, better paid, so he doesn't so he
doesn't lose them. I had heard. I haven't seen any
stories on this, but it is is b Y you
about to really launch a major upgrade to Lavelle Edwards Stadium.
I haven't heard that.

Speaker 3 (03:09):
I haven't heard that.

Speaker 1 (03:09):
I am seeing. Someone mentioned that to me the other day.
They're going to really boost the stadium up and make
it even better.

Speaker 3 (03:15):
Well, there, their boxes need an upgrade.

Speaker 1 (03:18):
I've been there for a lot.

Speaker 3 (03:19):
They got like bulletproof glass.

Speaker 4 (03:21):
There.

Speaker 2 (03:21):
You go inside that thing. You may as well be
in your house. You don't even know you're out a stadium.
It's like there's no outside experience. It's so that glass
is like a foot thick.

Speaker 5 (03:30):
It is.

Speaker 1 (03:31):
You don't you hardly hear the crowd.

Speaker 3 (03:33):
You can't.

Speaker 6 (03:33):
I know.

Speaker 2 (03:35):
I've been up there and when I when I sing
the Cougar fight song when they score, I can only
hear me.

Speaker 3 (03:41):
And there's I know there's a crowd out there singing.

Speaker 2 (03:43):
I know there's a stadium singing it, but I'm the
only one I hear because nobody in the suite knows
the song like I do.

Speaker 1 (03:49):
I know every word. One other quick note. Did you
see what happened to that kicker at the Giants game
last night?

Speaker 5 (03:55):
Yeah?

Speaker 3 (03:55):
I did.

Speaker 1 (03:56):
I never seen a kicker do that.

Speaker 2 (04:00):
I didn't know on any level of football. And I'm
talking pee wee to high school, to college to the NFL,
that you could kick the ground that hard before your
foot ever got to the ball. I didn't know that
was an that's an NFL game, that's a that's a
professional kicker for the Giants, New York Giants. Well, he
kicked the ground super hard. Never it didn't like hit
the ground and then deflect on the ball. It never

(04:22):
touched the ball. It just went his foot went straight
into the ground.

Speaker 1 (04:24):
Yeah. I just thought it was funny. So just a
few thoughts on sports news of the day, because good
news for BYU fans. Klani is not going anywhere, and
I wonder if that New York Giant kicker still has
a job right.

Speaker 3 (04:37):
Down, that's a pretty embarrassing anything.

Speaker 1 (04:40):
See you later, man.

Speaker 2 (04:41):
People don't have no I don't think anyone's seen it before.
I think everybody's takeaway is never saw that one.

Speaker 1 (04:46):
All right. One of the big stories today that is
circulating and the media is having a field day with this,
is Pete Haigseth, our Secretary of War, a war criminal
because that's the narrative that has now been circulated by
the media out there because of the second strike on
the latest drug boat. And that's the debate going on
right now. Is he a war criminal?

Speaker 2 (05:07):
So I have been It is such a bizarre accusation
that I that I went on X on my ex
page and I just asked the question with no sarcasm
and no and I'm not looking to fight. Can someone
explain to me why you would take one shot to
obliterate a boat which I've seen turn to dust. But
if you didn't turn it to dust on the first shot,

(05:28):
there's some prohibition on shot too into dust? Like what
am I missing?

Speaker 5 (05:32):
Like?

Speaker 2 (05:32):
I think is there a one shot cap on stopping
these boats? Is that you're not allowed to shoot twice?
I just don't know. Someone answered back and said that
it sounded like someone from the military said now that
they're making they're just deflecting that they're making it up.
Another response was within the Geneva Khan you know the
Geneva Connection rules of engagement that if you had a
boat and you had survivors, you're not supposed to, you know,

(05:55):
execute or kill the people that survived. I don't know
in two shots when you're trying to turn boat into dust,
that you're looking at survivor you're looking at a boat
that didn't turn into like when you see the video,
the videos I've seen, it's just a one shot deal.
But I didn't think you were obligated to do it
in one shot. I thought you could take two if
you didn't do it in one.

Speaker 1 (06:13):
So according to the Geneva rules, which we know absolutely
nothing about, yes, apparently the Democrats say it is our
responsibility to get a helicopter in this sky, pluck these
survivors out, bring them to the United States, and follow
due process of law and put them on trial. That's
what we're supposed to do. That's what the Democrats are
arguing to believe.

Speaker 2 (06:33):
That believes again we're into a one shot combat world
where you only get one.

Speaker 3 (06:39):
Missile, and anything after one missile you don't do.

Speaker 2 (06:43):
Even in the Obama years, with the drones in the
Middle East, I didn't see this practice this way. I
think this is such selective outrage and so weird. You
can't take this, take Mike, you know, just slice up
moments of war or combat and say, whoa, everything was
fine here. You can turn that boat the dust boy.
But if it takes two missiles, you're a worker.

Speaker 1 (07:02):
Well look at there. Let's look at this. How long
Greg has the media been after Pete Haigseth. I mean
from the very beginning. You know, there are stories out there,
well he had a drug problem. The generals don't like him.
They have been after Pete Haiks and now this gives
them another avenue to attack them by calling him a
war criminal. That's what they're trying to do, and it
is a deflection. What are they not talking about? Tim Walls, Minnesota,

(07:28):
Somali refugees him spending what eight billion dollars something like that,
one billion, I can't even remember the figure.

Speaker 5 (07:34):
Down the bill.

Speaker 2 (07:34):
There's a billion dollars, a billion fraud of taxpayer money.
When you look at all the different places that the
A Somali refugees have used programs that were really actually
funding terrorism, Yeah, funding enriching themselves that were really meant
for social safety nets for women or for children, elderly,
the sick UH, the CDL licenses, the Department of Transportation
giving all these commercial driver's license to undocumented Somalis and

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in a way that the process doesn't allow for, they
were given preferential treatment. And the whistleblowers within state government
Minnesota that are not Republicans, but they are state employees
whose job it is to discover and to expose fraud, waste,
and abuse made multiple had multiple communications with this governor
who did not care. And anytime they tried to raise

(08:20):
the bells or attack the alarms to the public in general,
the Somali organizations would accuse them of racism and then
it would quiet what they were trying to say or do.

Speaker 1 (08:30):
It's all a destruction, folks, just pay attention to that.
We'll talk more about this coming up on the Routing.
Great show. We've got a lot to get to today.
We'll talk about a new survey of students down to UVU.
Apparently they're afraid after the Charlie Kirk assassination. We'll get
into that. We'll talk about Blue states versus Red states,
the question of affordability, and the Honorable President of the

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Utah Senate Stuart aw that's right, good friend of the show,
we'll be joining us. We'll be joining us a little
bit later on, and we'll talk about what the legislature
is doing when it comes to dealing with the whole
redistricting issue. So a lot to get to today. We
invite you to be a part of the program. Eight
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(09:12):
dial pound two fifteen and say hey Rod, or leave
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a message there as well well. Today, the Foundation for
Individual Rights and Expression have released results now of a
survey conducted at UVU in the wake of Charlie Kirk's murder.
When are you speaking at an event back on September tenth,

(09:34):
Let's find out what that survey had to say. Joining
us on our newsmaker line right now is Sean Stevens.
He's chief research officer with the Foundation for Individual Rights
and Expression. Sean, how are you welcome to the Rod
and Greg Show. Thanks for joining us, Thanks for having me.

Speaker 7 (09:48):
I'm doing pretty well.

Speaker 1 (09:49):
How are you guys, we're doing well, Sean. Sean, what
are some of the highlights of the survey? What did
you find out.

Speaker 5 (09:57):
So well?

Speaker 7 (09:57):
I would say high lights, as you know, objective, I guess,
but I think there actually are encouraging results. So the survey,
I'll back up for a second. Survey is nationwide survey,
but we oversampled students at Utah Valley so we can
compare their results the results we got in the spring

(10:18):
with our free speech ranking survey. So there's like a
national survey and then there's results specific to Utah Valley
that we can talk about. I think the results that
Utah VALI are actually encouraging. They had I think reasonable
reactions to the event. I think anybody who was on
that campus or was even at the event would basically say, well, yeah,

(10:42):
I might be a little more uncomfortable attending public events
doing things like this side or the other thing. I
think that makes sense. But on other levels, we saw
improvements in students saying like, yeah, violence to stop the
speech is not acceptable. We saw a significant increase is
there at Utah Valley. We saw increases in toowerance for

(11:03):
controversial speakers and more trust in the administration, who I
think has handled a very difficult event somewhat well to
fairly well. So I think the results that Utah Valley
are encouraging. I think nationally there's different things we could
talk about.

Speaker 2 (11:22):
You know, Utah is a unique state, so much of
its population lives in such a close proximity of each other.
We called the Wahsatch Front. So I was a student
at UVU, my daughter graduated from there. All of us
know someone who was actually present, not all of us,
but I'm just the idea that you would know someone
that was there for that horrific moment, and it was
a grizzly moment. It is completely understandable to see some

(11:44):
of the things that your survey shows that there's an apprehension,
there's a fear. That's natural. I guess my question is
is it long standing? Is this something that is embedded,
Is this baggage forever for those that were in attendance,
or is that just an initial shock that will wear off?
Because I would hope you'd see maybe a leaning into
being more involved and not letting terrorists get away with

(12:05):
what they did. But how long can we expect that
kind of that that shock, that we're seeing in this survey.

Speaker 7 (12:11):
I think we would we would hope it's not a
forever thing, and we would hope it's you know, at
some point that changes. I think the like, Yeah, I
think the reactions are reasonable and irrelevant, and like I said,
I think there's encouraging signs and other points of the data,
and I think this the school has done a good job.
So I would hope, Uh, maybe we'll see what you know,

(12:33):
we do our ranking survey next spring, so maybe we'll
see improvements there. But it's something that people will need
to kind of keep returning to to see how long
the effects last.

Speaker 1 (12:44):
Yeah, Sean, what about a student feeling comfortable and just
expressing their opinions either in class or in you know,
open during a class break. Are they reluctant to do so?
Are they willing to do so?

Speaker 4 (12:55):
What? You know?

Speaker 1 (12:56):
What did what did you find out? Did you go
to that area and what did you find out?

Speaker 5 (13:01):
Yeah?

Speaker 7 (13:02):
So what we found is it's largely in line with
what we've found before is there's notable portions of students
that are uncomfortable expressing their views. There's been some upticks
since the assassination, which I think makes sense. Most of these,
you know, most of these increased concerns are among more

(13:23):
conservative and moderate students in terms of politics. Yeah, I
think the big takeaway I think nationally, when when you
when you go outside of Utah Valley, the big takeaway
is the assassination has had somewhat of a chilling effects
on a number of students. And then we've also, you know,

(13:45):
as part of Fire's work, like we've seen more and
more schools invoking things like safety reasons for not allowing
events to occur on campus in the aftermath of this,
or they're you know, putting increased security hr jes on
student groups organizations to hold these events, which we'd ask
them not to do.

Speaker 4 (14:05):
So, you know, I.

Speaker 2 (14:08):
The survey in some of the apprehension that students are
hesitant to participate in they either feel a great deal
or slightly less comfortable expressing controversial views in class, but
then attending or hosting a controversial event, participating in an event,
or even attending the class or campus. The one I'm
curious about is in the expression of controversial views and class.

(14:32):
I think that you could go to a lot of
schools and I think students, if they know the politics
of their professor. There is probably a pretty heavy hesitation
to ever express a contrarian view because of the worry
of their great or anything else. Is the classroom environment
is that reflective of all the things relative to the

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assassination or is there just a high apprehension with students
in class with professors who they think don't have the
same world view they do.

Speaker 7 (15:05):
So I think in general, what we find in our
data is there is reluctance to express views among professors
who students think they disagree with. But the bigger concern
is their peers and the reactions from their peers that
they might that they might get, And that is the

(15:26):
bigger driver of reluctance to express views in the classroom.
For sure. I think not just that you saw value,
but you know, nationally what we see. And then when
we kind of dig into other individual campuses with college
free speech ranking data that we have that that is
what we see that the larger concern is large. It's

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peers and not so much their professors.

Speaker 1 (15:50):
Sean, thank you for a few minutes your time and
sharing the information for that survey. We appreciate it. Thank you,
Thanks thanks for having me all right, Sean Stevens joining
us on our Husmaker line. He's from the Foundation for
Individual Rights and Expression. That's sad your fear of the
response from your peers more than maybe you are from
your professors.

Speaker 3 (16:09):
Yeah, I'm surprised by that.

Speaker 2 (16:10):
I think that, you know, the twenty something kids that
go to have been to college, or go to college
in my family, they're just trying to give the professor
what they're looking for. They're not going to go out
there on a limb because they think it will impact
their grade. But that's the beginning and end of what
I've heard in terms of stifling your own opinion with peers.
That's disappointing.

Speaker 1 (16:31):
Yeah, statistic very all right, more coming up Rod and
Greg with you on this Tuesday and Talk Radio one
oh five nine can arress. I think the president feels
and we talked about this yesterday. Gasoline prices are coming
down nationally. I think it's what three dollars a gallon
probably in some place less than three around the country.
I think he's counting on gas prices coming down. Other

(16:51):
prices will be coming down as well. But of course
the Democrats are taking an issue with especially those who
are taking maybe political office here a few years.

Speaker 2 (17:01):
Yeah, you know, I love the conversion that Democrats have
come to in the talking heads and the regime media also,
and everything's about affordability now. When it was nine percent,
you know, inflation with Biden, they didn't have a think.
We were too we were not a sophisticate enough to
appreciate how good the economy was. But now affordability is
all the talk, Yes, all the time.

Speaker 1 (17:18):
Yeah. Well, joining us on our newsmaker line to talk
more about affordability is Jared Steppin. Jared is a columnist
at The Daily Signal. Jared, how are you. Welcome back
to the Roden greg Show. Thanks for joining us.

Speaker 6 (17:29):
Thank you very much. It's good to be back.

Speaker 1 (17:31):
Jared. Let's talk about this affordability because you compare affordability
in blue states versus Red states. What did you find, Jared?

Speaker 8 (17:40):
Yeah, the reality is it's interesting that this is suddenly
becoming such a buzzword for Democrats in particular because there is,
when you actually get down to it, such a large
gap between the red states and blue states on this
very affordability issue.

Speaker 6 (17:54):
A packet's been driving a lot of the.

Speaker 8 (17:56):
Internal migration of the United States in the last decade
where you see a lot of people moving from places
like New York, California to redder areas like Texas.

Speaker 6 (18:06):
Like Florida which is going redder.

Speaker 8 (18:08):
And it's the reality is when, especially when you look
at the polls from people being asked essentially why they're
leaving or why they're considering leaving.

Speaker 6 (18:15):
It's almost always the affordability issue.

Speaker 8 (18:17):
People feel that housing is too expensive, they feel that
energy costs are too high, that even if they like
to live in a place like California, which is of
course very beautiful, they just can't afford it.

Speaker 6 (18:26):
It would be better to go somewhere else. And I
think that.

Speaker 8 (18:29):
That reality is very clear when you actually get down
to the policies, and this is directly affected by policies.
There's a very interesting study by U C. Berkeley actually
earlier in this year showing that on average, there's about
a thirteen percent gap between the average red state and
blue state on affordability, mostly driven by housing, but again
driven by many different factors, tied directly to the policies

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of the two parties. And that's the major issue. I
think Republicans be wise to sharpen their messaging on that
because I think they have a very good message American people.

Speaker 2 (19:01):
I think your your article really sharpened this message too,
because you don't talk just about the Blue States and
Red States. You really highlight Mom Donnie and how he
has promised through socialist policies that they are going to
make everything more affordable. Everything, the grocery stores, the transportation,
the subways, everything's housing, all of it's going to be
more affordable. I don't know it's equivalent in terms of

(19:22):
a person on the side of Republicans or Red States,
but certainly with Mom Donnie ready to making the promises
he's making, he's on the clock. Now we get to
see whether all the things he said he could do
or would do are going to come to fruition, which
we know they won't. Who is the other who is
the Republican equivalent to him? To show the Red States
economic policies do make life more affordable?

Speaker 8 (19:45):
Well, as I said, places like you could say that
Florida obviously has been done very well on this. Governor
Rondasantus has done a great job there, Mom Donnie. Actually
what he does is he just doubles down, triples down
on a lot of the policies that Democrats have already
put forward in places like New York. It's funny that
he's mainly proposals things like free buses and all these

(20:06):
kinds of issues that have really much appealed to his
base of voters. A lot of these programs have already
been tried in the city. I think it's quite incredible
since twenty twelve that the budget of New York City
has increased by about seventy five percent, Yet at the
same time, a lot of the services remain very lackluster
in the city. A lot of people, again, they find
to be extremely unaffordable. What he's promising, essentially is to

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double down the policies that got us here to begin with,
especially in places like New York. He's just saying that, well,
if you believe in these truly, and you let me
get everything I want here, all your dreams will come true.

Speaker 6 (20:40):
And frankly, that's not in accordance with reality.

Speaker 8 (20:44):
It's been tried in other places, other places where it's
already failed, like Chicago, or you have a socialist mayor
Brandon Johnson, who's attempted some of these policies, is now deeply,
deeply unpopular.

Speaker 6 (20:55):
Has some of the lowest poll ratings in.

Speaker 8 (20:57):
The entire country. Unfortunately, sometimes people to see that, the
need to see history repeat itself to learn the lesson. Unfortunately,
in places like New York City, they're likely to get
a lesson in that failure very soon.

Speaker 1 (21:09):
Yeah, sounds like it. Jared is always great having me
on the show. Thank you for joining us this afternoon.

Speaker 6 (21:15):
Thank you so much. It's been a pleasure.

Speaker 1 (21:17):
All right. On our newsmaker line. That's Jared Stepman. He
is a columnist with the Daily Signal talking about blue
state versus Red state affordability and another issue we didn't
get to talk to Jared about climate change and all
this with these mandates for renewable energy just driving up energy.

Speaker 2 (21:31):
Prices, they sure are and they're going away. I think
people realize it, and you're seeing it. People are sobering
up on that whole climate agenda, hope.

Speaker 1 (21:38):
So all right, we've got a lot more to get
to again. If you want to be a part of
the program today eight eight eight vibes seven eight zero
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and say hey, Rod, we've got a lot more to
talk to you about. Throughout the drive home this afternoon.
There is so much chatter going on today about Pete
Higseth and the whole Venzuela and boat thing. We're going

(21:59):
to get into that in the second hour. I just
read an article where someone is writing I excanded it
during the break. They're basically salling they should they should
resign Pete haig Zeth and Admiral Bradley and be charged
with a war crime.

Speaker 5 (22:13):
You know.

Speaker 1 (22:13):
And this is going on and on, Greg, and I'd
like to hear from our great listeners today. I mean,
do you agree, you know, if you attack something, are
you supposed to Well, yeah, yeah, you know they are
somewhere saying they should have been plucked out of the water,
these two survivors brought ashore in charge with drug card
drug charges.

Speaker 2 (22:32):
Well, I just I just find it to be so absurd.
I don't think anything you saw, even in the Obama
years with the drone attacks in the Middle East, anything
that looks remotely like they think it should look in
these waters, when these speedboats are flying through the water
trying to get this fentoyl into our country. I look,

(22:53):
I've not served in the military. I don't know, but
none of it makes any sense. I want to go
when we're going to talk about this the next hour.

Speaker 1 (22:59):
Yes, yeah, well, and we want to get some calls
in the next hour from our great listen.

Speaker 3 (23:03):
I will reserve my rant till the next dome.

Speaker 1 (23:07):
Well, speaking of rants, of course, we were just talking
a moment ago with Jared Steppman talking about affordability, affordability
and the Blue states and the Red States. You know,
some people saying very concerned about the economy. Will apparently
Black Friday spending broke records, so Americans aren't that concerned
about spending.

Speaker 2 (23:27):
There's some good signs out there, folks. We got lowering
interest rates are certainly our inflations at three percent or less.
We've got not to say that people aren't struggling as
we are. And you know how I feel about the
gas prices. They're coming down, but they're certainly not the
buck ninety that they are in Colorado right now. But
we're seeing the gas prices coming down. I do think
there's some good signs happening in real time about our economy,

(23:50):
and I hope that that people see the difference between
Trump and Biden. There's a big difference.

Speaker 1 (23:54):
Well, according to Adobe Analytics US shoppers greg dropped eleven
point eight billion. That's where the b folks online on
Black Friday alone, marking a nine point one percent jump
from last year.

Speaker 3 (24:08):
That's amazing.

Speaker 1 (24:09):
I didn't realize that I didn't go out shopping on Friday.

Speaker 2 (24:13):
But I don't know if Friday more like online now days,
Well that's cyber Monday, really, because I have Black Friday,
then you have Cyber Monday.

Speaker 3 (24:22):
Nobody wanted.

Speaker 2 (24:22):
I wanted to go back to Walmart like and relive
the olden days when I when I discovered the predatory.

Speaker 3 (24:27):
Practices, you called them out.

Speaker 1 (24:29):
You are no longer allowed.

Speaker 3 (24:31):
My family did not want to go to they said nope.

Speaker 1 (24:35):
And by the way, the French apparently are concerned about
climate change. You know why why producing too many grapes,
the grape production which is used to make the wine.
Producing too many They say that, combined with less demand
for French wine, is causing the wine industry in France
a lot of trouble right now. They're blaming climate change

(24:57):
because they're producing which I thinking.

Speaker 2 (25:00):
Yeah, yeah, this is They're always behind the curve.

Speaker 3 (25:03):
I swear I you know that.

Speaker 2 (25:05):
You know the French tanks because they have a military
their tank's only going reverse.

Speaker 1 (25:09):
Yeah, yeah, that's a bad joke. I've heard other ones
as well. All right, we'll talk about in the attack
on the drug boats coming up next on the Rod
and Greg Show. Stay with US. Bombing defenseless civilians clinging
to a blown up boat is murder. That's one of

(25:32):
the narratives out there. This, by the way, is from
a conservative columnist who is writing that today saying what
the US military did under the direction of Pete Haig
Seth or add More Bradley or Donald Trump is murdered
and they should either resign or they should be convicted
of being a war criminal and charged with being a
war criminal. Greg, it has touched off a firestorm today

(25:55):
like you wouldn't believe.

Speaker 3 (25:57):
It doesn't make any sense to me.

Speaker 2 (25:58):
And I look, this is where I love going to
our listeners because we have so many listeners with different
experiences in the military and law enforcement or just in life,
and they may have some knowledge of how the military works.
I don't have it, but I got to tell you
that when we have when I have watched military operations,

(26:19):
I have seen the screen the way it is. And
this I go back to multiple presidential administrations go back
to Obama in the Middle East and the drones. When
you see them hit something, typically you don't see it anymore.
You see a flash and then you look where they
used to be driving or where they were and there
is nothing.

Speaker 3 (26:39):
When you see the uh, when you see.

Speaker 2 (26:41):
The boats the first boat boat videos I saw, by
the way, those are not fishing boats. They are either
in a really big hurry to get to a nice
fishing spot, which I don't buy, but they're definitely not
trolling at that speed.

Speaker 3 (26:50):
There's nothing that in the water that they're trolling.

Speaker 1 (26:53):
They're flying.

Speaker 2 (26:53):
They are flying to get that fatanyl into this country,
and we are stopping it, putting a bright line. Thank goodness,
because so many people died over this. Anyway, when you
saw it, when you saw the video of it, you
saw them speeding and then all of a sudden, you
see a flash and I see no boat.

Speaker 3 (27:09):
It's dust. It's gone. Okay.

Speaker 2 (27:11):
Now, my question is if someone wanted this, or my point,
if someone wanted to have an issue with that, with
whether it was a drone in the Middle East, or
whether it was because Congress didn't tell me could do it,
or whether it was the boat coming in. If that's
your point, I can get my head around that. But
if you're past that, you're like, okay, that's all right,
you can do that.

Speaker 3 (27:31):
Where is it?

Speaker 2 (27:32):
How is it that you can't shoot twice? You kind
can you not bomb twice? If you hit them and
there was a half of the boat left there and
your goal is to turn into dust? Dust status can
be a one shot deal? Or do you is there
some is there some quota or some some kind of
ceiling glass ceiling over how many times you can drop
a bomb shoot a missile. I have no clue why

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if you had a boat that you wanted to turn
into dust, and the first missile shot turn most of
it into dust, but there's still boats sitting there, and
your second miss makes the rest of it dust versus
the first one did the.

Speaker 3 (28:03):
Whole job by itself. I don't know what we're talking about.

Speaker 2 (28:06):
If you know what the intention of the fire firing
upon that boat was supposed to be, firing upon it
once or twice with the same intention, with the same
outcome in mind, seems to be what we're doing here.

Speaker 1 (28:18):
Yeah, well, here you have what was it? I think
it was on Friday, Greg the Washington Post reporting based
on two sources. Okay, two sources, Greg that hag Seth
ordered basically said kill them all. That's what the Washington
Post story. Then Monday, here comes the New York Times
with five sources and basically saying haig Seth ordered the attack,

(28:41):
but he did not order them to be kill them all. Okay,
that decision, that second shot taken by Admiral Bradley, very
well respected, very decorated member of the military. He's the one.
You know, you get an order from your boss, Greg
and say do this. In the military, you do what
the boss tells it. Yeah, and the boss was telling

(29:02):
him take the boat out, take it out. Okay, first
strike didn't quite work. He sends another one in, takes
it out. Now people are saying, now Haig says said
during the cabinet meeting today he saw the first strike,
but he had another meeting. He did not see the
second strike. So how on earth can he order them
to take it out if he didn't see the second strike.
He didn't see it. Okay, And then you've got then

(29:24):
you've got the admiral who heard his order to take
that boat out. Isn't he just following orders?

Speaker 5 (29:33):
He is.

Speaker 2 (29:34):
So I'm looking at this Geneva. So I asked this
question on X and one was it looks sounds like
the experience of a member of the military that says
it's a distraction. Of course, you're able to take out
a boat, and if you need to shoot two missiles
and not one, you're it's all the same effort.

Speaker 3 (29:48):
And that's that's that.

Speaker 2 (29:50):
Someone else said that Article twelve of the Geneva Conventions.
You know, the article twelve says that protection and care
of the wounded, sick and shipwrecked is what kick coicks
in here, kicks in here where he shouldn't. There shouldn't
have been a second shot. And they're trying to say
that if you're a wounded, if you're at sea and
you're wounded, sick, shipwrecked, you should be respected and protected.

(30:12):
I I this wasn't like you know, the USS Minnow
and Gilligan's island boat. They just shipwrecked on an island.
This isn't these If you are trying to take a
boat and make it disappear, and that is kind of
the goal as I understand it, as I've watched the video.
It just disappears if it took you one missile, if
it took you two missiles, these are not probably a
half hour apart. These are probably very precis These are

(30:34):
precision strikes. It seems like it's all within the same
effort to take that boat out. This whole shipwrecked concept,
I don't see. I don't see how that applies. I
don't think that's a shipwrecked. When you shot the first
missile and you have more than one probably in your arsenal,
when you're looking to take this boat out, then it's

(30:54):
not a shipwreck. It's you're taking the boat out one
one missile, two missiles. Look at look at when we
bomb in a military strike. Is there just a one
bomb limit? You hit one bomb and whatever hits the
bomb is fine. Everybody that lives. After the one bomb,
you can't shoot. There's no more bombs. I don't see
this happen. What I think is happening is much like

(31:15):
what the Democrats have been. They've been parsing words, parsing videos,
parsing actions, and trying to find illegal behavior. They call
every single thing this administration does illegal. I show me
one thing they've said is it was illegal for him
to run. They didn't think that was legal. He was
an insurrectionist. They try to keep him off the ballot.
He wants to shut down the Department of the Education.

(31:36):
They go to court, they say it's illegal. He wants
to deport illegals.

Speaker 3 (31:39):
That's that.

Speaker 2 (31:40):
They go to court, they say it's illegal for him
to deport people. Every single thing this president does, the mantra,
the rhetoric, the narrative is the Trump administration is acting
in an illegal way. And so it just seems like
part and Parcel I find it to be a complete excuse.
And you said earlier in the show, it's a deflection
on the real issues going on right now in this country,

(32:02):
includes the Smalie fraud of a billion dollars coming out
of floor out of Minnesota that that Governor Walls knew
all about.

Speaker 1 (32:09):
Well, I you know, I think about this, Greg. I
think the military had three options. Okay, in this scenario.
They could have just gone away, let the guys float
out there and die. Yeah, that's an option, all right.
They could have picked them up. They could have plucked
him out of the sea, you know, brought them back
to the United States and put them on trial for drugs.
Smileley or they could have done what they did, a

(32:30):
second strike to take the boat out completely.

Speaker 2 (32:33):
The reason I think that I pick them up and
take them I don't see that in the Middle East.
I don't see that happen in God, I don't see
anywhere where there's a conflict around this world, or when
America is just defending itself against enemy combatants. I don't
see them scooping up anyone to come into a local
jail and a local court to go through our jurisprudence process.
It's it's a contrived notion as far as I know.

(32:54):
If I'm wrong, our listeners are smart enough they'll know.
But I just think that this is called this is
called protecting our country.

Speaker 3 (33:02):
This is what you do. You take out the boat.

Speaker 2 (33:04):
Yeah, and there's no one missile, uh you know limit, Yeah,
you take it out.

Speaker 1 (33:08):
There have been, Yeah, there have been greg twenty one
strikes against Venzu whel and drug boats so far. Twenty
one times. We don't miss Yeah, that's right. We're pretty
good at this, right, So you know, I, you know,
do what do we honestly think they're bringing us candy? Well,
and realize what they're carrying and what they're doing.

Speaker 2 (33:27):
Of the first strike and if it only takes one,
if it takes two, the intention's pretty much in harmony
with the first strike. I mean, I don't see that.
I just don't see the difference there. It's like dust status.
We're trying to get the dust status here. If it's
one missile, that's how we usually do it. If it
took two, we're going to dust status. That's what we're doing.

Speaker 1 (33:44):
That's what they're trying to do. All right, Well, let's
talk about this with our great listeners. The attack on
the Venzu Wheale and drug boats. Some people are now
saying that Pete haig Seth and maybe Admiral Bradley, who
were involved in this operation are war criminals because there
were survivors and we took him out with a second
second hnd. Okay, So we want to hear from you
your thoughts on this. What the US is doing, what

(34:06):
the president is doing, trying to stop the flow of
drugs into this country. It is out of control and
he's doing whatever he can to stop it. Do you
support those efforts?

Speaker 2 (34:14):
Enemies of the state, and he's taken it, he's taken
it to this level. I don't tho he's hit the ball.
I think we know what he's doing.

Speaker 1 (34:20):
He's shown us, Yeah, and he's talking about it. Eight
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(34:40):
sent you a text really talking about raised some real
interesting question. We want to get to your phone calls
here in just a second. But Dave heard us talking
about this, you know, the Venzowhil and drug boats and
what's going on out there, and he made some interesting point.

Speaker 2 (34:52):
Yeah, good friend of mine, I've known him since my
early twenties. He's been a political guy at consultant. He's
been he's been in the arena for quite some time,
and he's listening to the show. Said I have some
really big questions. Why is it taking this long to
start doing this, And what would they say if these
guys were bringing in fully automatic machine guns and then
going to shopping malls and killing thousands of Americans. Would
they still be victims? It's called victim inversion, and the

(35:15):
Democrats have raised it to an art form.

Speaker 1 (35:17):
Well, I'm wondering, Greg, with all of this, you know,
this gorilla dos being thrown up about what is going
on here? Did the Democrats want illegal drugs just to
come into the country without any stoppage?

Speaker 2 (35:28):
Well, the victim of version vank anfirmation is important because yeah,
these these are drugs, These are enemies to our state.
People are dying from this fentanyl. It takes such a
little amount to kill and it's happening so much. Thank goodness,
we're doing it. To the question to the point of
why is it taking us long to do? We shouldn't
be complaining about this. We should be applauding it. I
think hopefully common sense Americans are. But the question to

(35:51):
our listeners is what are we missing something?

Speaker 3 (35:54):
Is this?

Speaker 2 (35:54):
Is this actually a violation of Article twelvel the Geneva
Convention and shipwrecked individuals?

Speaker 1 (35:59):
What's what are they working is Pete Haig Seth and
Admiral Bradley war criminals. We're doing this eight eight eight
five seven eight zero one zero. Greg, let's go to
the phone.

Speaker 2 (36:08):
Let's go to Mike in provo, who's been waiting. Thank
you for holding Mike. Welcome to the Rod and Greg Show.

Speaker 5 (36:15):
Hey Rod and Greg.

Speaker 6 (36:17):
My name is Mike.

Speaker 9 (36:17):
I'm a former military guy, and I think you really
have to get down in the weeds on this really quickly,
because people always talk about the little nuances and they
talk in broad schemes, but they don't actually know what
they're talking about.

Speaker 5 (36:29):
So the Geneva Convention originally.

Speaker 9 (36:31):
Was signed in eighteen sixty four. You had an update
in nineteen forty nine that added three new conventions. The
first addresses the treatment of sick and wounded sailors. The
second addressed sick and wounded sailors. So if you click
on the actual Geneva Convention and you look at what
the definition of a sailor is, and it says a
sailor is a member of the Navy, narco terrorist, or

(36:54):
not members of the Navy, even if they are based
on land or see a seaman, which refers to an
enlisted rank. Additionally, fishermen are seen as a distinct type
of sailor those that are engaged in fishing. They're not
out there fishing guys, they are not.

Speaker 5 (37:12):
So cut and dry.

Speaker 9 (37:14):
You know, they talk about it's an unlawful order. It
is a lawful order to destroy enemy combatants in the
drug on drugs.

Speaker 2 (37:22):
Can they shoot two missiles? Like I didn't know there
was a one missile max? Is there two missiles? You
can fire at that thing.

Speaker 9 (37:30):
All day long?

Speaker 3 (37:31):
Thank you?

Speaker 2 (37:31):
Yeah, all right, Mike, thank you for this makes sense,
Mike makes perfect sense.

Speaker 1 (37:35):
So apparently accurding Mike narco terrorists. They're not sailors, they're
not fishermen. They're not fishermen.

Speaker 3 (37:42):
Telling you there's no.

Speaker 2 (37:43):
Fishermen in the history of fishing. That's flying on a
cut that looks like a Miami Vice rerun of those
cigar boats or cigarette bats that were racing. You know,
I'm that is not That is not a fishing vessel.

Speaker 3 (37:53):
It's not.

Speaker 1 (37:53):
Well, I'm surprised you aren't into this as much because
you're a big Miami Vice man.

Speaker 3 (37:57):
That's why I made the references.

Speaker 1 (38:01):
Got one of those boats that goes, you know, one
hundred miles an hour on the water.

Speaker 2 (38:04):
He wasn't fishing, Okay, there was no fishing pole when
he was flying through the water, and there were there
were you know, the drug guys had those cigarette boats
or cigar boats too, so you know, scarebs.

Speaker 1 (38:15):
They come, yeah, well, let me, I don't understand. Why
did you know? And Mike makes agree or know. They've
made a very good point. What has taken us so
long to deal with this?

Speaker 5 (38:25):
Yeah?

Speaker 2 (38:25):
Does anyone remember that there was a time when you
had the Santinistas and the Contra rebels And this is
in the Reagan era, But it looks like in hindsight,
history is telling us that maybe the our intelligence community,
maybe the CIA, was partnering with some of these drug
cartels because not only could would they let so they
would let them smuggle the cocaine into this country, but

(38:46):
they wanted those weapons smuggled to the contrast to fight
the Santinistas, And so there might have even been some
US government participation in the in the trafficking of drugs
into this country. So what a refreshing moment. I don't
know when that started or ended, but to know that
we're putting a bright line and we are just not
allowing this poison onto our shores. We should have been

(39:08):
doing this a long long ago, and we should not
be making victims out of the people that are trying
to shovel this, this death into our country. We should
be absolutely doing what we're doing. I don't find anything
offensive about it. I go back to what Dave Owen said,
what you've said with our why haven't we been doing it?
We should have been doing this long ago and not
making it a mystery, because wouldn't it have a chilling effect.

(39:29):
I wouldn't want to drive a boat fast between that
country in here. I wouldn't want to be misunderstood. Yeah,
okay if I did, if I wasn't smuggling drugs. But
I decide, hey, I know, raise this boat as fast
as I can towards America.

Speaker 1 (39:44):
Think of the damage Greg the fentanyl has caused in
this country, the number of lines that have been lost,
all right, And the Democrats say, well, you know, we
need to treat the people who are bringing this stuff
in more humanly. Really do they care about somebody the
Maryland It's the same thing. It's the Maryland Man thing.

Speaker 3 (40:04):
It is.

Speaker 2 (40:04):
It's again victim and version. The people that are the
victims are people here in this country that are getting
that poison, and even the people that were human smuggling.
The Maryland Man his story and how the Democrats made
him out to be the big victim. I just hope
common sense it just prevails and that people see this
for what it is. It is insane to be trying

(40:25):
to go after our Secretary of Defense, Secretary of War,
and the Trump administration for doing things that should have
been done long ago and really are done first and
foremost to protect the people of this country. Those are
enemy combatants, enemies of our state, and we should deal
with them mightily and swiftly.

Speaker 1 (40:43):
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Speaker 2 (40:57):
Apparently the Democrats think he got a one missile quota
here that you can throw one missile at him and
if you don't get them, then they're Gilligan's Island. They're
lost at see, they're shipwrecked, and you're supposed to go
save Yeah.

Speaker 1 (41:06):
Well, the narrative out there today in the media, of course,
is that Pete haig Zeth and Admiral Bradley, who was
in charge of the naval group in that area. Are
war criminals because they ordered a second strike? Apparently there
were a couple of survivors with the first strike. Second
strike was launched, and now because they were killed, vaporized,
whatever happened to them, they're not war criminals. That's the debate.

Speaker 2 (41:27):
It's such a it's such selective outrage, selective logic. Let's
go to the phones. Let's listen to our I need
I need our listeners and put on this. Let's go
to Robert who's on I fifteen. Thank you for holding Robert,
Welcome to the Rod and Greg Show.

Speaker 5 (41:41):
Hey, it's a great conversation. My first question the Democrats
that they're so upset, didn't Bill Clinton Baumba asked for
in factory, he didn't be cook oss by it as
a war criminal.

Speaker 1 (41:53):
I remember, I forgot all about that.

Speaker 2 (41:56):
I'm working at that ASP for factory. What they do
to anybody, you know, you're exactly right. I forgot about the.

Speaker 5 (42:04):
Senator Kelly at the time was the Navy seal. Why
didn't he stand up as a statesman that he is
and claimed that mister Clinton should be then held as
a war criminal.

Speaker 1 (42:14):
That's true. And didn't Biden make a mistake and blew
up a family in Afghanistan or Pakistan or somewhere. Didn't
he do that? And he was never brought up on
war criminal?

Speaker 2 (42:23):
Georgis, I've I've never heard this line of thought till
just now. I mean, yeah, Robert, what do you think
of this and what's going on?

Speaker 5 (42:32):
I totally have been boozled at the stupidity of people
that they would actually think this is an actual story story. Yeah,
I mean, we have a war on drugs. They are
coming to attack us. If I think, I'd have to
go back to the people that are sitting in Congress
and if their kid died of drugs, a drug overdose

(42:54):
that we've all known people have done that, why would
you not want to take those people up the streets.

Speaker 2 (42:58):
That's true, that's true, that's right. Yeah, And to make
victims out of those those traffickers. It just it's it
doesn't make any sense.

Speaker 1 (43:06):
Well, fentanyl, and I've never been around to Greg, You've
worked with sheriffs. I've heard your story, some stories from
sheriffs talking about the impact of fentanyl. Why wouldn't we
want to do everything we possibly can to stop it
from coming into the United States.

Speaker 2 (43:20):
And don't you think that those videos, which they're not
shy to share I would have a chilling effect. Wouldn't
that have some kind of chilling effect on the more
fentanyl beings brought into this country? At least by boat? Yeah,
maybe they need a submarine. I think they used to
have those. I mean there was Amami Vice episode once
where they had a submarine.

Speaker 1 (43:38):
Really yeah, I didn't know that you would only know that.
Back to the phones we go. Let's go to cajul
and hear from Nancy tonight on the Rod and Gregg Show. Hi, Nancy,
how are you.

Speaker 10 (43:47):
Awesome and amazing?

Speaker 1 (43:48):
Ill?

Speaker 4 (43:53):
Hey?

Speaker 10 (43:53):
So I have two sons in the military, and when
they're told to take something down, they take it down.
It doesn't matter how many time police officers. If there's
a bad guy and they shoot him once, they don't say, oh,
she still got a gun. But we can only shoot
him once and we hope he doesn't shoot us again.

Speaker 2 (44:09):
Thank you, Nancy. I swear there isn't it some quota
here you shoot until you're they're down. I don't I
don't understand this idea that you can only shoot once.

Speaker 10 (44:19):
Well, then then the people that protect the idiot democrats,
those people should only be able to shoot the bad
guys once and then say sorry, we can't protect you
anymore because we have a one bullet rule.

Speaker 2 (44:30):
Yes, yes, thank you. The bird of the assailants wounded,
they're now a victim. Let's go save them.

Speaker 1 (44:38):
Let's go sa Well, that's one of the options. People
are saying. They should have considered that the military should
have gone in and plucked these guys out, brought him
to the US. Its charge them went drug charges, but
treat them humanly, as if they fentanyl that they're distributing,
treats Americans humanely.

Speaker 2 (44:52):
Well, it's just I don't think it's the opera. I
don't think operations have worked like this before. I think
they're putting standards and definitions in place that didn't exist
prior to that.

Speaker 1 (45:00):
Trump All right, Gil is Enroyd Tonight wants to weigh
in on this on The Roding Gregg Show. Hi, Gil,
how are.

Speaker 11 (45:05):
You hello, roy Rod? I'm good.

Speaker 1 (45:11):
How are you I'm doing? Well? What are your thoughts
on this? Gil?

Speaker 11 (45:16):
Well, for one thing, they're talking about head Seth having
committed war crimes. There is no war declared anywhere with
any country right now. And the the u c m
J specifically says that, oh my god, it says that

(45:40):
they have the right to refuse lawful orders.

Speaker 2 (45:47):
Hello, they have the right to refuse. They have the
right to refuse lawful orders or unlawful orders.

Speaker 11 (45:55):
No, unlawful orders, right.

Speaker 1 (45:57):
Yeah, yeah, yeah. And the Sedition six yeah said that.

Speaker 2 (46:00):
Yeah, And that's and that is that that is the
problem we're in right now, is that every single thing
that this Trump administration is doing, the Democrats, the leftists,
the regime media, they frame as illegal. So when you
have those six people, those six members of Congress in
the House and in the Senate saying that the members
of the intelligence community in the military should be refusing
orders that they believe are illegal, they're they're hoping that

(46:25):
they're listening to the media who's saying everything you're being
asked to do is illegal, So do none of it.
It's in subordination or worse.

Speaker 1 (46:32):
What's going on, Well, there are two large military bases
in the US. One of them is campbell A June.
But there's some story out today that an Iranian group
backed by George Sorrows has now purchased billboards just outside
those military bases encouraging our soldiers to disobey orders. Of course,
can you believe that?

Speaker 2 (46:51):
Yeah, And now China is getting into the act to
because they get all their oil from Venezuela or a
lot of it, two hundred thousand barrels a day, So
now they want to protect Venezuela. So they're telling they're
telling Trump in America to slow their role. Let's see
if that works. Yeah, no doubt so. Just imagine the
Democrats in China are on the same side of that issue.

Speaker 3 (47:09):
Really, Yeah, that's there.

Speaker 2 (47:11):
They both think that Venezuela are victims and the drug
smugglers are victims. China's defending Maduro in Venezuela and the
Democrats are as well.

Speaker 4 (47:19):
Sor right.

Speaker 1 (47:19):
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Speaker 12 (47:42):
Guys aren't members of the military or navy, they are pirates.

Speaker 1 (47:48):
How many shots can you take it? A pirate, you
take them ound?

Speaker 5 (47:52):
What is that?

Speaker 1 (47:52):
Also, if there's a piece of boat left, it could
still have drugs in it, it needs to be taken
out as well.

Speaker 2 (47:58):
Okay, d I agree with both of those those sentiments.
And I think, really if if they're when you shoot
that missile, because we've seen what they're what the intention is,
because usually one shot does it, it's gone. If there's
something left, you take a second shot. Yeah, I don't
even know that they're counting. Uh, swimmers are doing it.
You're taking the boat out, and that's just that's the mission.

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That's what you're doing. And I don't think there's a
limit on how many missiles you can fire at a
boat to make it disappear. And I think that's the
intention to make it disappear.

Speaker 1 (48:27):
You know what I find to look to me, what
I'm finding amazing. You know, the the Democrats are trying
to be that all inclusive party, bring in everybody. Apparently
they now want drug dealers. Yeah, and to be a
part of.

Speaker 2 (48:36):
The party drug dealers, and now they're new pals in
China because China doesn't want the US to do this
either because that's their that's their oil source there. So
they want, they want, they love the poison getting sent
here in the United States and they like Venezuela. So
Democrats are you know, in cahoots with the Chinese too.
That's that's about right there.

Speaker 1 (48:56):
You go, right now, here's another comment on our talk
back line.

Speaker 12 (48:59):
This is Scott from Garden and I'm actually driving truck
coming up to fifteen.

Speaker 6 (49:05):
Question.

Speaker 12 (49:07):
I've heard that atf is already seized enough fentanyl to
kill every man, woman, child in this country three times.
I'm wondering if you guys had ever heard anything like that,
or if if that's Jordan Well.

Speaker 1 (49:25):
Scott from Garland. Thank you Scott for your comment. I
have heard that, yeah, that we have brought enough fentanyl
or enough fentanyl is in this country to kill every man,
woman and children three times over.

Speaker 2 (49:37):
And you might think that that means it must be
like warehouses full. No, it is such a potent drug
and such a killer. It's a small amount that kills
that kills so many people, so it is so so
dangerous and the amount that's been coming in. I mean
even nut job Danira, who I used to like, the actor.
His grandson was killed because he has drugs, had too
much fentanyl in it and he croaked.

Speaker 3 (49:58):
He died.

Speaker 2 (49:58):
Yeah, so I think it's I think he's pirates whatever
you want to call him. The boats need to be
taken out, period. It takes one missile or two do it.

Speaker 1 (50:07):
President of the Utah Sentate, we'll join us next. We'll
talk about the redistricting issue here in the state. That's
coming up next. Klan talk. He's signing a big contract extension.

Speaker 2 (50:18):
The Rod doesn't think he even needed because he'd ha
stayed no matter what.

Speaker 1 (50:21):
Which is not true.

Speaker 2 (50:23):
Once Penn State showed his new market value, it was
up to by you that have to reflect a market value,
probably with his assistance as well, and so that your
point's not true because.

Speaker 1 (50:36):
I think, like I said before he said at started
the show, I do not believe Colonataki will ever leave b.

Speaker 3 (50:42):
YU because you do what it takes to keep them.

Speaker 1 (50:44):
They will. They will, That's why. But that also wants
to stay there.

Speaker 2 (50:48):
Of course, if they ignored him or did nothing when
Penn State came calling, I think he takes one hundred
million goes how does he not? Okay, anyway, different story.
All right, before we talked to Steward Adams. Okay, who's
been patient enough to wait for us. There is some
breaking news tonight. President Trump has just formally terminated all
Biden auto pen documents, pardons and commutations. Said he was

(51:10):
going to do it. Apparently I'm confirmed yet, but there
are reports out there that he had now officially done.
Some people are going back to the clink. I think
you think, I think he had four hundred of them.

Speaker 1 (51:19):
Yeah, that's true. That's true.

Speaker 3 (51:21):
There was a lot.

Speaker 1 (51:21):
So there goes the auto pin.

Speaker 2 (51:23):
All right, Okay, joining us now to talk about We've
heard a lot of talk about what's going on with
the with the redistricting issue, this judge Diana Gibson, dirty Diana,
and and really that I believe taking away the separate
and equal powers of the legislative branch. President Stewart Adams,
thank you for joining us.

Speaker 4 (51:41):
Ard.

Speaker 2 (51:42):
I just said, I really do think that the courts
have taken away your legislative powers, constitutional powers. There's a
lot of talk about what's going on. Do you have
a plan to respond to this as a legislative branch.
And if so, how do you plan to.

Speaker 4 (51:54):
Respond, Well, we are definitely filing an appeal. We've always
planned on filing appealed was how to do that, and
we've determined that the best way is to ask the
court for a final decision. So we're not appealing temporary
injunctions of those types of things. So we're going to
first ask the court for a final opinion and they

(52:15):
hopefully give that, because at least our attorneys believe it'll
come rapidly, and then we will file an appeal and
for the full depth and bread to the case. I mean,
we think we've got a good chance. This judge actually,
if you can believe it didn't even follow proposition four,
we know the Constitution requires the legislature to redistrict. The

(52:37):
proposition four were supposed to have a public process. The
public's never looked or had input on the map. The
judge chose. It was chose simply by judiciary at power
grab by the judiciary.

Speaker 1 (52:50):
In my opinion, President Adams, I know House Speaker Schultz
has brought this up, the Governor has brought this up.
The whole timing of this waiting until the very last minute,
dragging this case on for months when it could have
been resolved a lot sooner than that. Are you as
frustrated as they are when they look at the timeline here.

Speaker 4 (53:10):
I don't know who's frustrated more. I think I might
be more frustrated. I mean the judge, I mean this
happened in twenty eighteen, I mean weren't seven years later.
And the judge gets the case in January, doesn't make
a decision until she said, oh, right, right, until the
Lieutenant governor says that we need a decision by November tenth,
and then she puts us through a very tight process.

(53:32):
I mean, we only had a very few days to
hold a new to draw a new map, to get
a new map in front of her. Then she looks
at our map and says, oh, it may have it
may be wrong, but guess what this map that nobody's
looked at, that nobody's had any public input on the
public's then totally ignored on that. We don't care about
the public anymore. We're going to choose a map that
nobody's even seen before, drawn by someone who's not elected

(53:55):
the legal women voters. I guess I don't even if
he drew the map, but someone that drew a map
in their basement, and we're going to take that map
because we think it's better totally totally disregard for proposition
for totally regard for the public process, totally regard for
the Constitution, disregard for it. I mean, it is one
of the craziest things I've ever seen. I wouldn't imagine that,

(54:17):
not even not even I think Derek Kitchen and Nate
Blewin imagined that. Both of them said, we didn't know
this was going to happen, so we may run for Congress.
But it's kind of surprised us. I think, totally totally,
totally wrong.

Speaker 2 (54:31):
Yeah, a plus twenty four percent Kamala Harris District in
Utah is a force. It's actually it's an offense that
that was even argued for and has been drawn it
with a straight face. My question is this does how
does it impact the election cycles? Right now, you're going
to be in this appeal, but you have clerks county
clerks who have to have a sign up for elections

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begin the first week in January. That's not far off.
There's a lot of information, at least in the CongressI
the districts.

Speaker 3 (55:00):
You don't know.

Speaker 2 (55:01):
Are is this going to impact the election cycles in
terms of the filing period and conventions and primaries.

Speaker 4 (55:09):
Well, that's why we're having a special session because it will.
Well we don't know exactly how we're working through that,
so by next Tuesday, hopefully will have we will have
an idea of what we do. But in order to
file this appeal, we're going to have to change at
least the congressional filing dates. And that's a big deal
because it affects stagers, gathering, all those other things that

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go on with it. We're hoping it won't and it
won't affect any conventions or any primaries. We're hoping that
we can get it done within the normal convention and
primary process. But if we file this appeal, we will
probably have to change those dates, and the special session
next week is the reason for that.

Speaker 1 (55:48):
We're talking right now with the President of the Utah Senate,
Stewart Adams, talking about the redistricting issue that faces the state.
There has been talk of taking this issue back to voters.
Where does that stand? President at them? Will lawmakers agree
with that idea? What are your thoughts on this?

Speaker 4 (56:06):
Well, you know, it's amazing to me whether Judge Gibson
it was done by a designer to fall. She's authorized
the most partisan app in the history of UTAHRA. You
talked about it a minute ago that it's an unbelievable
Democrat slanted district, but even the Republican districts are unbelievably
slanted Republican. There's no competitive nature in any part of this.

(56:29):
And so you know, our constitution is very clear, and
we think that the judge violated the constitution, but really
we've run our course. We're doing the best we can
with the pills. We need to turn to the people.
We need to put and we will put a ballot
initiative on the ballot next next year in November. That
allows the voters to decide that whether these initiatives overrun,

(56:51):
overrule the legislature, whether the legislature and the public are
on common ground, which we've been on common ground with
the people for I don't know since the process came
to be in the nineteen twenties that the citizens can
change it. We can change it, but for some reason
our courts have said no, hold on a minute, the
legislature can't change initiative and has put us in a

(57:12):
spot where we have this absolute mass and it is
a mess what the courts will cause.

Speaker 2 (57:18):
So I hope this isn't too wonkish of a question
for the audience, but I don't think it is. We
got the smartest audience in all the land. So having
been a recovering public servant, is there any value President
and putting those maps in front of the House and
Senate because the constitution, our state constitution is clear that
the legislative branch is the one that draws the maps

(57:39):
to at least vote no and overwhelming fashion for these
maps that nobody had any part and no public process
was done. Is there any value in putting a stake
in the ground and showing that the legislative vote on
this map that the judge created with some private at
party fundamentally and overwhelmingly was never approved by the legislature.

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Is there any value in doing that? Forget what future
map come. Is there a value in saying no to
this map?

Speaker 4 (58:07):
We think there's great value in that, and that'll happen
during a special session. And again, whether there's legal value
or not, we think there is moral value in it. Again,
to have someone who's unelected, who has no responsibility to
the public, who can't be unelected because they never were elected,
just to have someone draw map, whether they're an appointed

(58:27):
judge or whether they're just someone in the public that
wants the drammap. That isn't how the process should work.
And again, we're going to do the best we can illegally.
We're going to take this to the court, but ultimately
we're going to need the public to help us. And
when we put a ballot initiative on the ballot next November,
to try to fix this initiative process again, to try
to make sure that we stand on equal ground and

(58:50):
we can function as duly elected officials. Mcgreg You know this.
We're elected by the people. We are the voice of
the people because they elect us. And shouldn't we shouldn't
wash away the people's voice and give it to some
judge or some other person to be able to do
this process. And I hope the people stand up next

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November and vote for this initiative.

Speaker 1 (59:12):
Stuart Adams, the President of the Utah Senate, thank you
Stewart for joining us on our newsmaker line talking about
the redistrict team process. And he sounds a bit fired up.

Speaker 3 (59:21):
Yes, and he should be that.

Speaker 2 (59:23):
I think that the idea that you have maps that
are being drawn that have no touch on the legislative branch,
which is precisely what our state constitution says, is the
branch that draws these maps, and they have had no
participation in it at all. I just I think they
need to. I'm so happy to hear them say they're
going to have a vote on it, and that floor

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debate in the House and Senate criticizing that that'll be
archive that'll be printed in the House and Senate journals,
and it needs to be recorded for history that this
legislative body in Utah had not one thing to do
with so called legal congressionally drawn maps in the state
of Utah.

Speaker 1 (59:58):
Special session coming up what Wednesday?

Speaker 3 (01:00:00):
Yes, next week?

Speaker 1 (01:00:01):
Next week? All right, we'll follow it for you, certainly
here on the Rod and Greg Show. More coming up
on Utah's Talk Radio one O five to nine o
k n RS. I just responded to an email from
one of our listeners say, Hey, I want to make
a comment on that talkback line. How do I do it?
So I just quickly responded, It's very very easy to
do the thing is microphone up with the corner.

Speaker 3 (01:00:21):
Yeah, thirty seconds.

Speaker 1 (01:00:22):
Yeah, leave us a comment.

Speaker 8 (01:00:23):
Uh.

Speaker 1 (01:00:24):
Mass killings in the US hit the lowest level since
two thousand and six this year.

Speaker 2 (01:00:30):
I think that's Trump. I think I voted for that.
That's what I voted for.

Speaker 1 (01:00:35):
Yeah, expert. According to a the numbers which are maintained
by the AP and USA Today in partnership with Northeastern University,
h this is we haven't been this low since two
thousand and six. So mass shooting, mass killing four people
is what is considered that. But apparently the numbers have
just dropped.

Speaker 5 (01:00:55):
I think.

Speaker 2 (01:00:55):
I think what's happening is you're seeing a greater focus
from this president on public's and the reason you're seeing
it on a federal level with the Oval Office is
because these cities have been so terrible at it and
they're becoming war zones that the president has felt obligated
to protect the citizens of this country and he's wanted
to do it.

Speaker 4 (01:01:13):
Now.

Speaker 2 (01:01:13):
He's not done the things he said he'd do in
terms of how quickly or how strong he would come
into Chicago or other places. But I think just the
conversation of him being willing to do. That has put
these mayors and these governors of these blue states on
the hot seat with their constituents, and I think they
themselves are reacting probably stronger against crime than they were
in the past.

Speaker 1 (01:01:34):
According to the study mass killings, we're down twenty four
percent this year compared to twenty twenty four, which was
also a drop of twenty percent compared to twenty twenty three.
So they are going down, And I agree with you.
I think I think the Trump influence on this is
efforts to make our cities and our streets safer, I
think are having any impact.

Speaker 3 (01:01:53):
They are, ye, for sure.

Speaker 2 (01:01:55):
I just think more scrutiny on the failures of these
large metropolitan aia is and and then the governors of
those state states. I think that that that scrutiny has
compelled their behavior. They're acting differently now than they were
before when no one was paying attention that their cities
were war zones.

Speaker 1 (01:02:11):
Yeah, that's true. We have got to talk to Abigail
about what's going on in the UK.

Speaker 3 (01:02:17):
Yeah, well, yeah, I know.

Speaker 1 (01:02:18):
There is a story out there where this man from
the UK was arrested in the UK for posing with
a gun in a photo that he took while he
was here in the US.

Speaker 3 (01:02:31):
Yeah, that's it. Yeah, can you believe it?

Speaker 1 (01:02:34):
Do you believe that?

Speaker 2 (01:02:35):
So I've been worried for Abby because I heard that
it was it. Senator Morenos looking at a built that
if you have dual citizenship, you're going to one or
the other.

Speaker 1 (01:02:44):
Had know.

Speaker 2 (01:02:45):
I think maybe that's gone so crazy. Maybe she's ready
to kick them to the curb, those Brits. Yeah, they
sound crazy over there right now.

Speaker 1 (01:02:52):
Well, apparently this it consultant arrested by the West Yorkshire
Police Department wherever that is after posting pictures on LinkedIn
of him holding a gun during his American vacation.

Speaker 3 (01:03:05):
Yeah that's not illegal.

Speaker 1 (01:03:07):
Yeah, well apparently it is. There. John Richelieu Booth, He's fifty,
shared the photograph, taken at a Florida homestead back in
August thirteenth. The post sparked a thirteen week ordeal, which
began with a police warning at his residence. Officers cautioned
him about online content and its potential impact on others' feelings.

Speaker 2 (01:03:28):
Wow, well the thought police are out, watch out. Yeah,
and you know there's a lot of other serious crime.
Remember that little girl that was being harassed by that guy,
and she's trying to take matters in her own hands.
Remember said that machete or whatever, telling the guy to
get away from him. I don't think that she was protected.

Speaker 1 (01:03:46):
No, she wasn't.

Speaker 3 (01:03:47):
But the picture.

Speaker 1 (01:03:48):
This guy, he did everything he could to demonstrate that
the photo was taken in America. Police didn't believe him,
and they arrested him. Anyways, Wow, that's a story. Yeah,
well it's all get You know what is greatest part
of their online censorship rules? Yeah, that are sweeping Europe.
I mean, you've got online censor police in Europe and

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my fear is is coming this way?

Speaker 2 (01:04:13):
So well, the Democrats depend Democrats. They thought that they
thought that the that the European standards, because the Internet
is a world world wide web, would actually be able.
They would be able to apply those censorship standards here
that they were creating in Europe because by extension they
can be you know, they get online and they would
they would have to follow the rules going on there.

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But so far we're thanks to Elon Musk. I really
do think he saved freedom of speech in this country.

Speaker 3 (01:04:40):
I do.

Speaker 1 (01:04:40):
I think you did. We'd protect abby, would we? I mean,
if someone came in and tried to take one of
her citizenships away. We wouldn't let that in no way,
we understand that.

Speaker 2 (01:04:50):
Well, I'm telling you though, it's getting harder to defend
the UK with all the craziness going over there. I think,
you know, I'll talk to her. I think she's ready.
Maybe she's ready to kick him to the curb. She's
too good for them, you know, her teeth are too straight.

Speaker 1 (01:05:03):
Well, she's very nice, she's nice.

Speaker 3 (01:05:05):
Yeah, and they're they're going, they're going crazier.

Speaker 4 (01:05:07):
Yeah.

Speaker 1 (01:05:08):
So all right, more coming up, just a little distraction today.
More coming up on the Rod and Greg Show and
Utah's Talk Radio one oh five nine k n r S.
Let's talk about the man who allegedly shot two National
Guard troops in Washington, DC, killing one, leaving the other
in critical condition. The question comes to be, Okay, how

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many dangerous Afghans are in this country that present a
national security risk?

Speaker 3 (01:05:37):
Yeah, it's a.

Speaker 2 (01:05:40):
I didn't think there could be an answer to this,
but I think there is that they were about to
find out.

Speaker 1 (01:05:44):
Yeah, yeah, Well, joining us on our newsmaker line he's
dug into the numbers is Jeff Charles, News Editor, at
town hall. Jeff, thank you for joining us. Okay, how
many Afghan national security risk are in this country? Thanks
to Joe Biden?

Speaker 13 (01:05:57):
Yeah, I found out something pretty scary. So under the
Biden administration, this program called Operation Allies Welcome, you had
over five thousand Afghanis coming here that were flagged as
national security concerns. Now, a lot of these people, just
like la Kanwall, the person who carried who allegedly carried
out the shooting of the National Guard troops, had worked

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with the US military or the CIA. Others didn't. But
the bottom line is that over five thousand were flagged
as national security risks.

Speaker 2 (01:06:29):
You know, Secretary chrisy Noom has pointed out that it's
very difficult to vet people coming from countries like Afghanistan
Somalia because there's not a government, there's no resources which
look anyone up. How did they How did if that's true,
how how would five thousand Afghanis be identified as national
security risks?

Speaker 3 (01:06:48):
Risks?

Speaker 2 (01:06:48):
In other words, how did they vet or how do
we even in hindsight vet to know that these people
are risks?

Speaker 13 (01:06:54):
You know, I'm not really sure of about the vetting
process that they go through. I mean, you're right. At Afghanistan,
just like a lot out of other countries, it's not
quite as easy to vet people, especially if it's in
an area where they don't have a strong government that
keeps you know, it keeps track of people. However, like
I said, some of these people did work with the US,
so they had to have been vetted to a certain
degree if they if they you know, placed our Truth

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next to them in battle or you know, or our
CIA operative, So there had to have been some kind
of vetting. But the thing is if they were flagged,
that means that that that kind of suggests that they
knew that there was something off about some of these people.

Speaker 1 (01:07:31):
Jeff, how did the individual who I now understand has
been charged in the attack on the National Guard in Washington,
d C. How did he get into the country. He
got in through that program.

Speaker 13 (01:07:44):
Now I can't remember the exact year, but the program,
which was called Operation Allies Welcome, that's how he made
it into the country.

Speaker 2 (01:07:54):
You know, Here's here's the whiplash I go through because
I recall that this this withdrawal from Afghanistan by the
Biden administration was so unorganized. It it was such a failure,
abject failure on so many levels. Remember people hanging on
the plane as it was taking off, And there had
been a narrative that out people Afghanistan, members of people

(01:08:15):
in Afghanistan who had helped the Allies, had helped and
risk their own lives helping us, helping the US and
against the Taliban, were left behind, and they and their
families were at risk, and there was this sentiment of man,
how could we betray people that were helping us.

Speaker 3 (01:08:29):
That's one side of the coin.

Speaker 2 (01:08:31):
The other side of the coin is we brought in
five thousand people that are absolutely dangerous and shouldn't be here.

Speaker 3 (01:08:36):
How do I just don't get it.

Speaker 2 (01:08:38):
Is it a false narrative that we left people behind
that we should have brought over or it's just hard
to keep pace of where this, where this thing went
or where it is today.

Speaker 13 (01:08:49):
Yeah, I mean, honestly, I think multiple things can be
true at the same time.

Speaker 1 (01:08:53):
And this whole thing, I mean, yeah.

Speaker 13 (01:08:55):
I'm sure our government did lead people behind who were
more deserving and brought other people in who weren't so deserving.
And this thing, you know, we blame Biden for this,
and he does deserve a lot of the blame. But
the bottom line is, this is what happens when you
stay occupying a country for almost twenty years with no
real endgame, and then you all of a sudden want

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to just withdraw and then hand the country over to
the Taliban. This was I mean, this is the this
is the result of a very faulty foreign policy that's
been going on since the early two thousands and now
it's almost like the chickens are coming home home to roots. So, yeah,
Biden is at fault, but it's not just him.

Speaker 1 (01:09:36):
Iowa was sunder. Chuck Rassley has pointed out and has
tried to call attention to these weak vetting procedures that
have taken place in the standards under this program. Are
changes underway now? Are we going to strengthen that vetting
the What are you hearing about that.

Speaker 13 (01:09:50):
Jeff, I'm hearing stay tuned because we have no idea.
I hope so, I hope so, because you're right. The
thing is, Chuck rassy has been screaming about this from
the rooftops. He's not the only one, but he's been
one of the main people saying this for years, and
then we still have this going on. I mean under
the Biden administration, even though the under the Trump administration,

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something needs to happen to make sure that we're batting people.
But also there is another lesson to be learned here.
Nation building is bad. It's not a good idea. Going
to war like that isn't going to help anybody. It's
one thing to get to eliminate a threat and then leave.
It's quite another to eliminate a threat, stay there for

(01:10:31):
twenty years and then wonder why these things are happening.

Speaker 2 (01:10:33):
So I before this debacle, I would have argued, there
are there are scenarios where asylum would be appropriate. I
know it's been abused by the Biden administration and everyone
was assumed asylum seekers and got court dates five years
in the future, which was just a farce. But is
there in your mind any scenario where sylum a seekers
ought to be accommodated for and allowed to enter the country.

Speaker 3 (01:10:55):
I'm I'm I don't know anymore.

Speaker 13 (01:10:58):
You know, I think so, I mean, I don't really
have an issue with taking in a refugees. I'm not
a huge immigration hawk. At the same time, basically that
they need to be making sure that they're not letting
in dangerous people. I mean, it's just like even with
the people that we have here today. I people have
committed other crimes, gang members. You want to make sure
those people don't enter the country. But people who genuinely

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want to build a better life, they want to contribute
to American society, or people that our government essentially put
in danger by having them work with us, will work
with our government. That Yeah, I think we I think
it's okay to let those folks in. At the same time, like,
you can't do that when you don't have appropriate vetting
standards to make sure that that our rights are being

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protected from threats foreign and domestic, you know, like the
federal government says it's supposed to be doing.

Speaker 1 (01:11:46):
Yeah, yeah, right, Jeff Charles, thank you, Jeff, news editor
a town hall talking about the number of Afghans allowed
into the US. The number is pretty amazing. And yeah, Greg,
he goes back to this the Biden administration. You know,
they told the American people time and time again, all
we're vetting them. I mean we played an audio sound
like yesterday from both Majorkis and Jen Psaki, you know,

(01:12:09):
saying we vetted. But then later on you have Tony Blenken,
who was the Secretary of State at the time, saying, well,
we probably could have done a better job. Amen to that. Yeah,
they didn't do any they didn't do a thing.

Speaker 2 (01:12:22):
Well, as we just learned in this interview, I didn't
think it was possible to vet these people, But there
are ways. If the CIA's had any interaction with them,
they've done they have at least done their due diligence.
Five thousand that are scary and dangerous that are here
in a process. It's hard to verify, So you have
to be pretty bad if you can verify people that

(01:12:44):
it's hard to verify because you have a government or
records to look at.

Speaker 5 (01:12:48):
Well.

Speaker 1 (01:12:48):
I heard you make this comment about, you know, how
do you vet these people when you don't have any
record of them? Jason Chafitz on Fox News earlier today.
I heard him say basically the same thing. How do
you attract these people down? How do you know who
they are if they live in a country where there's
really no government whatsoever.

Speaker 2 (01:13:03):
Yeah, yeah, you can do it. If you're the CIA.
You go in the village. I guess ask around. But
that's pretty labor intensive.

Speaker 1 (01:13:10):
I mean, that's who's our caller said yesterday that he's
dealt with people in Afghanistan and these tribes and they
do anything.

Speaker 2 (01:13:18):
I hate to have such a sensitive topic because it's
so sad. But Brent Taylor, okay, he was it was
he was training those Afghanis uh in military and he
was killed by one of Yeah, while his back was turned.
I mean that is that that's the exact people we're
talking about here. I mean that was supposed to be

(01:13:40):
a friendly he was training and that's the one that
killed him. And he was our mayor. He was the
mayor up in uh uh well North. Yeah, and his
wife continues she does such a hero and she does
so much. But you know, his his his murder and
him being killed that was friendly on that that was
so called friendly guy. That's how dangerous they are.

Speaker 1 (01:14:01):
Yeah. So all right, morning, come final segment. Here are
the Rod and Greg Show and Utah's Talk Radio one
to oh five nine n RS. Got a great show
already lined up tomorrow. Of course we'll have the key
issues of the day, so that should be fun tomorrow.
It is every day every day, yeah Wingman Wednesday, yeah, yeah,
well yesterday I think it was the Trump administration announced

(01:14:22):
new requirements now for the Supplemental Nutrition Assistance Program otherwise
known as STAP some people call it food stamps when
a new effect. One of the major changes, of course,
is workplace requirements. Work requirements well. The Agriculture Secretary Rolin
spoke about that during the cabinet meetings to day and
what they plan to do with the states who have

(01:14:42):
not complied with their request for information.

Speaker 14 (01:14:44):
In February of this year, we asked for all the
states for the first time to turn over their data
to the federal government to let the USDA partner with
them to root out this fraud, to make sure that
those who really need food stamps are getting them, but
also to ensure that the American taxpayer is protected. Twenty
one states said yes, not surprise. Twenty nine states said yes,

(01:15:05):
not surprisingly, the Red states, and that's where all of
that data that fraud comes from. But twenty one states,
including California, New York, and Minnesota, the Blue states, continue
to say no. So as of next week, we have
begun and we'll begin to stop moving federal funds into
those states until they comply and they tell us and

(01:15:27):
allow us to partner with them to root out this
fraud and to protect the American taxpayer. As Joe Biden
was working to buy an election a year ago, he
increased food stamp program funding by forty percent.

Speaker 6 (01:15:41):
So now as we continue to roll.

Speaker 1 (01:15:42):
That back, I love the l they play.

Speaker 11 (01:15:47):
Yeah.

Speaker 1 (01:15:47):
I mean they're saying, hey, you don't want to play.
We made a simple request, we give you the money,
you need to tell us how the money is being spent,
and they refuse to comply.

Speaker 2 (01:15:55):
I'm going to tell you that the problem with collected
we're accepting federal funds in all states to it. Utah
is not overly addicted to. It is always that the
strings attached. The strings attached were you don't get it
if you don't do certain things. And then when Trump
got in office, everyone acted like the federal strings don't apply,
like they should get it anyway. It's the most bizarre reaction.

Speaker 1 (01:16:15):
You've got to hear this. This was on social media today.
This is something that would drive Barack Obama nuts. But
it is something that Charlie Kirk preached this a black
man at some event listing the ten things that black
people do not need. There are ten.

Speaker 15 (01:16:30):
Things that black students don't need.

Speaker 3 (01:16:34):
Number One, we don't need a firmative action.

Speaker 6 (01:16:38):
Number two.

Speaker 12 (01:16:38):
We don't need.

Speaker 6 (01:16:41):
Number three.

Speaker 15 (01:16:41):
We don't need to be pandered too. We don't need
you to dumb down test scores in order for us
to drive.

Speaker 6 (01:16:49):
Number five.

Speaker 15 (01:16:50):
We don't need a school system promoting victim mentality.

Speaker 6 (01:16:54):
Number six.

Speaker 15 (01:16:55):
We don't need the soft bigotry of low expectation been
a birder.

Speaker 6 (01:17:04):
We don't need number.

Speaker 15 (01:17:05):
Seven, critical race theory or intersection out.

Speaker 6 (01:17:09):
Number eight.

Speaker 15 (01:17:10):
We don't need recreations or any more welfare. We don't
need to be propped up as the darlings of the
age community.

Speaker 6 (01:17:23):
Number ten, we don't.

Speaker 15 (01:17:24):
Need white liberals telling us that they know best.

Speaker 2 (01:17:28):
Trouser.

Speaker 1 (01:17:29):
Don't you love that I do that? And let me
tell you yea hectly.

Speaker 2 (01:17:34):
I have a dear friend. He's he's hearing you tie
and boxing in the fight game. He's black, And everything
that that man just said is everything I know about
this individual and what he says himself.

Speaker 3 (01:17:45):
And he grew up the hard way.

Speaker 2 (01:17:46):
He grew up in la Uh and he's he's a
champion combat sport coach now, but he was a champion kickboxer.
But this friend has always said those things that you
just heard they don't need.

Speaker 1 (01:17:58):
It that list. Barack Obama, No, absolutely all right, head off,
shoulders back, and God bless you and your family this
great tundred of hours. We'll be back tomorrow, PAT four
with a rot a great show.

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