The Rod and Greg Show: Trumps Powerful America; Education Issues in Utah; Should Kamala Stay Around?

Episode Transcript

Speaker 1 (00:00):
Have you bought a Christmas gift yet?

Speaker 2 (00:01):
Not one?

Speaker 3 (00:02):
No?

Speaker 2 (00:02):
No, I actually I take that back. I went, I
took the family. We did like a Griswold family Christmas
shopping to the the City Creek on Saturday and that went.
That has that had mixed reviews.

Speaker 1 (00:14):
Okay, my question again is have you bought a Christmas
gift for?

Speaker 2 (00:18):
Actually Sophie, she went, grabbed my card and went did.

Speaker 1 (00:21):
Her own, but no one else did. It doesn't surprise me.

Speaker 2 (00:25):
So for me as far as picking out gifts and
getting ready for the holidays, I have not.

Speaker 1 (00:30):
No. No, I have done a lot. I've done a
little bit.

Speaker 2 (00:33):
But you've been to the You've been to the mall,
You've done.

Speaker 1 (00:35):
I've done them all. Yeah, I've been there. I like it.
Actually you think of nuts, but I like it.

Speaker 3 (00:40):
Yeah.

Speaker 2 (00:40):
Yeah, it is assignmental lack of mental health.

Speaker 1 (00:44):
It is The Greg Show.

Speaker 4 (00:45):
And we are on the road today broadcasting live from Minkykotur.
We're in there, Layton location, just off Antelope Drive up
near the Target store. We invite you to come on by.

Speaker 2 (00:55):
Uh.

Speaker 4 (00:55):
Sandy will be joining in us shortly. She always brings
along some great deals she does.

Speaker 2 (00:59):
Yeah, and this place is always Yeah, that's busy already.
I wasn't eavesdropping, but I heard a woman's and I
heard someone say, you've been in here already. She's bring
each of her daughters in and apparently there's more than
one because this was the youngest coming in to pick
their blanket for Christmas.

Speaker 1 (01:14):
Really, that's kind of nice.

Speaker 2 (01:15):
Yeah, so a lot of a lot of happy customers.
I don't see anyone with a frown on their face.
I'll just say that everybody seems very happy.

Speaker 1 (01:22):
Well, they are happy. You get a minkey blanked. You're happy.

Speaker 2 (01:25):
I'm happy. Yeah, I get a minkey blak.

Speaker 1 (01:27):
Yeah, you're happy.

Speaker 4 (01:28):
Well, we have got a lot to get to today,
a lot going on. We'll talk about the Daniel Penny trial.

Speaker 2 (01:33):
Yes, we went. We talked at length about that on Friday,
and we know more information. Now jury's come back with
a verdict and we can talk about that.

Speaker 1 (01:40):
Ye all, fifteen people in New York City were upset
with this. That's about it. You know, they held it protests.
Fifteen people showed up.

Speaker 2 (01:47):
Yeah, well, I'm surprised it was even that, but I
do have there are some important comments to be made
about that. The jury's verdict and what that means going forward.

Speaker 4 (01:55):
And we've got a suspect now apparently arrested in the
United Health.

Speaker 2 (02:00):
I made a prediction on this. I said it would
be this Monday that he would be apprehended. People, I
just because I have this it's the cross eye beear rock.
I just know I don't have that the luxury of opinion.
So I told someone I don't know who was. You
told someone that. They said, well, when do you think
they're going to pick him up? Once they had his face,
I said, it'll be Monday. And here we are.

Speaker 4 (02:18):
Yeah, Well, they kind at a McDonald's, I know, Pennsylvania.

Speaker 2 (02:22):
It's outside of Pittsburgh, and I, you know, I thought
it would be the facial recognition software that is all
encompassing and has taken away all the privacy of our lives.
But it turned out to be employees at the McDonald's
called in and said, I think this is that.

Speaker 1 (02:34):
Guy, Luigi men Joni.

Speaker 2 (02:37):
Yeah. And apparently if reports are saying that he had
the he was instill in possession of the weapon, the
the handgun as well as a as a manifesto.

Speaker 1 (02:49):
Two page manifesto. We'll talk about that here a little bit.

Speaker 4 (02:52):
Also coming up, we have some words from President He,
like Donald Trump, sat down did in the interview yesterday
on Meet the pre Aske with Kirsten Welker.

Speaker 1 (03:01):
You were very leier.

Speaker 2 (03:02):
I was, he shouldn't do this stake.

Speaker 1 (03:05):
I thought he did a great job.

Speaker 2 (03:06):
And I do too, and I think that he there
was a it was a it was a measured and
I thought I thought he handled all of her gotcha
questions as masterfully as we have seen him do it,
instead of just telling her she's just out of her
mind what she is, yeah, which is usually of course
he goes in terms of when they ask questions that
are just preposterous. I thought he handled it really, really well.

(03:28):
And and so where I was totally against him participating
in that interview, I think that it's it's harder and
harder for the left and the leftists to demonize him
and call him a fascist as he continues to sound
incredibly reasonable and measured in his responses.

Speaker 4 (03:43):
And he's very very relaxed. He is so different, Greg,
and four years has made a huge difference. I believe
in this election that he won by what two three
million votes? You know, I he just feels secure that
he knows what he wants to do for the country
well and he's ready.

Speaker 2 (03:59):
To do it well. Not just in this country. Do
I think that people are sensing that with a sixty
percent approval rating. But I hear there was an opening
or a dedication of a Notre Dame the cathedral, right
I If there was, I'm not sure because all I
saw was the rolling out of the new President of
the United States, Donald Trump in a room of world
leaders and them embracing him. I think it was his

(04:21):
coming out party, and I think there was a beautiful
cathedral around him that had been refurbished. But I think
that's almost the second story. The real story was how
every single eye inside that was on him and the
people that were going on out of their way to
congratulate him and express their support and wanting to work
with him. Even Joe Biden gave him the googly as

(04:41):
if you saw that that looked a little bit of
wah wah wah to me.

Speaker 4 (04:44):
You know the question I have Joe Biden is a Catholic. Yeah,
this's a big moment for members of.

Speaker 2 (04:49):
The It's a long trip where you get into that
time zone. His naptime is probably right now, hard of it.

Speaker 1 (04:56):
Okay, so you're making fun of his nap time.

Speaker 2 (04:58):
Oh, not even making fun, just accurately identifying that Joe
he was not going to be conscious at that point
to a flight.

Speaker 4 (05:05):
Yes, too long of a flight for Joe. All right,
we'll get to that in a minute. We'll talk about
the Trump's powerful America. He's talking about dealing with foreign leaders,
and we'll get into that. We'll talk about American voters.
A fascinating new study out on this.

Speaker 1 (05:22):
You have some questions, I sure do.

Speaker 2 (05:23):
I have questions about it, at least the angle they're
taking that we have a lot more common than what
we what we perceive each other. That's a that's a
that's worth I guess, discussing Democrats Republicans. But how we
get there and how we have these perceptions, I think
is uh, we're.

Speaker 1 (05:37):
Talk about that. Yeah, what's talking about?

Speaker 4 (05:39):
Well, let's talk about Donald Trump. First of all, Denny,
there were a couple of soundbites on the sound bar.
If you see him in there, Denny, if you've got him,
I'd like to play those one. First of all, Donald
Trump in the interview yesterday with Kirsten Welker from meet
the press, he was asked about what he's going to
do to unite the country. Play that sound bite if
you would den maybe we haven't, Maybe we don't.

Speaker 2 (06:04):
It's remote. We're in a remote remote So say it
off by heart, say what you so?

Speaker 1 (06:10):
Okay, he's looking forward.

Speaker 2 (06:12):
After the break, We'll get there.

Speaker 4 (06:13):
What he say, and this is the line line, I like,
success will bring about unity.

Speaker 2 (06:18):
Yeah. Well he said that even on the retribution question,
are you looking as like the best revenge is a
successful uh and prosperous country and people, and even talking
about the people that didn't vote for him, he wants
he wants to treat everyone as the Americans they are,
and he wants people to be happy and all. I thought, again,
I look, there is going to be some account There

(06:41):
needs to be some accountability for the for for deploying
the Department of Justice and the FBI against him. I mean,
he even pointed out and when she asked him about
Christopher Ray, the head of the director of the FBI,
and he said, he invaded my home. Yeah, so I
mean that's not lost on him. But the things that
he's going to be looking at or things to prevent

(07:01):
the weaponization of our federal government against its citizens. Important
in citizens and you know, political people or not. That
is something that has to happen and it but he
is framing it in it's an accurate way. This is
not a vendetta that President Trump has. He has been
a victim of this, and we need a system of
justice that prior to him we hoped was lady justice

(07:24):
with a scale and a blindfold on. And I just
think that's what they are going to look into that
and I do think there's some guilty players with Democrats.

Speaker 4 (07:33):
She also asked him about his executive order. She said,
I hear you have a slew of them to sign
day one. He says, yeah, we're ready to go. They're
going to deal with the economy, they're going to deal
with immigration. We're going to put a stop to what's
going on in this country. She also asked him about
birthright citizenship, and we're going to get into this in
the five o'clock hour because I'd love to hear what
Utahns think our listeners if what we can do with

(07:55):
birthright citizenship, because basically, if you don't know what it is,
if you are born in this country, you are automatically
an American. Doesn't matter if your parents are here illegally
or illegally. If you're born in this country, you become
an American citizen. And I think that's one thing where
foreigners have taken advantage of us, Greg and he wants
to put us up to her man.

Speaker 2 (08:15):
It is a it is an embarrassment of riches in
here today.

Speaker 4 (08:18):
If it wasn't just a mickey blankets, they are coming.

Speaker 2 (08:23):
I'm totally distracted now. I don't even know what you
were talking about. Rod, I just all I can.

Speaker 4 (08:27):
See is just give him that chocolate tweets.

Speaker 2 (08:30):
Right in front of me. I can't. I don't even
know what we're doing here.

Speaker 1 (08:33):
Can you pace yourself? Is she's ever seen me?

Speaker 2 (08:36):
To watch me if I can get through them all
before he gets off this segment?

Speaker 4 (08:40):
And all right, well, we give out a lot to
get you. And we forgot to mention we have a
pair of tickets to see Keith Urban in concert. He's
coming to Salt Lake City. It was announced today, and
we're gonna give you a chance to win. Those weeks
we teased about this, but we did.

Speaker 3 (08:54):
We did.

Speaker 1 (08:54):
We couldn't tell you who Keith.

Speaker 2 (08:56):
So it's Keith Urban. But you're just not going to
be the fifth caller. It's not gonna be that. You
got to know Keith Herby, got know his music? Can
I hear a little bit? We're gonake a little contact.

Speaker 1 (09:04):
A couple of years ago in Vegas. It's on a
whale of a show.

Speaker 2 (09:07):
That really does our listeners be excited?

Speaker 1 (09:10):
Well, they're taking care of it. We're getting drank, we're
getting goodies. You can handle it.

Speaker 2 (09:15):
This is just this is just a place of happiness,
a place of happiness.

Speaker 4 (09:19):
Well, all right, like we said, we are broadcasting live
from Mickey to a co tour here in Layton, and
it's so great to have Sandy back with us and
talk about Christmas.

Speaker 1 (09:28):
How are you?

Speaker 4 (09:28):
We haven't seen you for a few months. Are you
been You're going all I've been here, Greg and I
have been here. Really him.

Speaker 1 (09:35):
We try and discourage, but but I've been here.

Speaker 5 (09:38):
I'm so excited you're both here. It's fabulous and it's Christmas.
We have this new shoving did you notice.

Speaker 4 (09:45):
That I've noticed now we.

Speaker 5 (09:47):
Just need more room for more blankas we got more customers.

Speaker 2 (09:50):
It's great.

Speaker 4 (09:51):
All right, are you ready for Christmas? What have you
got for Christmas. You've expanded a little bit items out there, right.

Speaker 5 (09:56):
We have got if we don't have it, you don't.

Speaker 1 (10:02):
My father's grocery store years ago. We don't have it.

Speaker 2 (10:05):
You don't need it.

Speaker 5 (10:07):
Obviously. We have our Christmas prints, Christmas blankets. We have
our robes, we have our scarves, we have our everywhere blankets,
we have our Annie bags, we have our huggabowls.

Speaker 1 (10:18):
What ass you've added?

Speaker 4 (10:19):
Tree?

Speaker 1 (10:19):
Skirts?

Speaker 5 (10:21):
Skirts? Faur for the I have a tree skirt.

Speaker 1 (10:29):
I don't think so what are they?

Speaker 5 (10:32):
She needs a skirt around? And you know what? They
are so plush you want to sleep under the tree.

Speaker 3 (10:42):
I'm not kidding.

Speaker 4 (10:44):
Well, he sleeps on the couch a lot because of
who he is. But skirts, we understand.

Speaker 5 (10:50):
That the couch, the tree skirts perfect.

Speaker 4 (10:52):
We're down to the final two weeks before Christmas, we are,
so they got to get them now.

Speaker 5 (10:56):
They've got to get him now. And there's always Rod
fifty five.

Speaker 6 (10:59):
Rod.

Speaker 4 (11:00):
We gotta add Greg to this because he tails bad,
he feels bad.

Speaker 5 (11:03):
Okay, should we do.

Speaker 2 (11:06):
Years of age? If you're gonna do Rod, it needs
to be Rod eighty five. I'm sorry that gets a
little steep, right.

Speaker 5 (11:13):
Oh, that's a big discus.

Speaker 2 (11:15):
It's a little bit too much.

Speaker 5 (11:17):
So you can't be you're you're not even clear.

Speaker 1 (11:20):
So we're doing ROD fifty.

Speaker 5 (11:21):
Five, ROD fifty five, and today is our adult sale,
so every adult excluding the hugs, every adult sized blanket,
not every.

Speaker 4 (11:28):
Adult, every adult size blanket.

Speaker 5 (11:31):
It is seventy nine dollars, which is fabulous. I mean,
we've been so busy and we're just yeah, they're flying
off the shelves. And even with our hugs being fifty
five percent off today, that is just a savings and
hugs are everyone's favorite.

Speaker 4 (11:46):
They are They're great, They're great, all right. It's always
fun to challenge Sindy. Oh now your locations getting so many,
I can't remember them all?

Speaker 1 (11:54):
What are your location?

Speaker 5 (11:55):
You just wait, We've got secrets coming for next year.

Speaker 1 (11:59):
Oh really we can. Are you a share with them today?

Speaker 5 (12:01):
Not yet? Have to kill you Ogden lighton sugar House,
Draper or Saint George.

Speaker 1 (12:11):
So you got it? Yep, Wow, you're right.

Speaker 5 (12:13):
Now do it backwards?

Speaker 4 (12:14):
No, I'm not going. All right, we'll be here today
ROD fifty five. We're here until seven o'clock. Come by.
They have got beautiful blankets, patterns, skirts they've even got
something for the dog. Sounding we need the petture, petture,
Come on by worry you here until seven o'clock time.
Now for a news update. Here's Eddie right here. I

(12:35):
know we've got a lot of cares. We we do
mention sometimes tonight we'll give away our first pair of
tickets to see Keith Urban Concert.

Speaker 2 (12:45):
That will be fun, that will be a blast.

Speaker 4 (12:46):
What a stocking stuffer that would be if somebody wins
it and gives it to somebody in their family, that
would be a nice stocking stuf.

Speaker 2 (12:52):
Would be a weighty, stuff stuck stocking stuffer, because that
would probably be as good as any other gifts.

Speaker 1 (12:57):
No, that's true, that's true.

Speaker 3 (12:59):
All right.

Speaker 4 (13:00):
A lot going on in the world, of course, Syria
asaw it is out in Syria. He's gone to Russia
and Vladimira is welcomed with open arms. But what does
that mean for the Middle East? And how does Donald
Trump approach it? He's already said, not our deal, We'll
stay out of it.

Speaker 2 (13:16):
This assaued issue was really hot, and it was it
was a problem when Obama was president and he gave
if you remember the bright line, if you ever use
chemical weapons on your citizens were coming and we're gonna
So they proved that they had used chemical weapons on
their own cisony and Obama did nothing. So there was this,
you know, so that everybody's worried about the aggression all
that going on. Syria as a country has been absolutely destroyed.

(13:37):
People have left that country in mass they've been the
people that have been revolting have switched sides one hundred
different times. So it's been chaotic. But what I learned
in Trump's first administration, I thought before he was elected,
you had to get engage in there because it was
so dangerous. And he said back then, that's not our worry.
You guys can do what you want. And all of
a sudden, we never spoke about as Saud again. He

(13:59):
became a non entity. Well yeah, now he's he's been booted.
And I think it's because you're not seeing this the
Biden administration, and it's c I intell stuff getting involved
like like Obama used to. And I think that it's
a different day.

Speaker 4 (14:13):
Well let's talk about powerful America under Donald Trump. Joining
us on our Newsmaker line right now is Glenn Beaton.
Glenn is a columnist with the Aspen beat Always great
to have Glenn on the show. Glenn, how are you
welcome to the Rodding Greg Show. Thanks for joining us, Glenn.
I think we have Glenn there. Hello Glenn, Hello Glenn, Glenn.

Speaker 2 (14:39):
We're remote.

Speaker 3 (14:42):
One of those days.

Speaker 4 (14:43):
Uh, we're on a remote one of those days.

Speaker 2 (14:46):
Clip the the interview.

Speaker 4 (14:50):
He's there, We're down. We just can't bring him through.
I can see him now, he's gone.

Speaker 2 (14:57):
He's God, I just can I didn't do anything that
we see and this, you know, and this our mobile
headquarters here, we have this, we have this, this computer
screen where we can see the callers, but we're not.

Speaker 4 (15:09):
Able to connect it with didn't quite connect the way
we're as we'd hoped. Yeah, mister Betan, hopefully we'll get
we'll get him on here in a little bit. It
looks like they're trying to reconnect with him. But you know,
in the Middle East, I really liked what Donald Trump
said about the latest goings on in Syria.

Speaker 1 (15:24):
Not our concern, not our battle.

Speaker 2 (15:26):
No I will I will say, and I'm interested in
mister Beaton's a take on all of this. You know,
when when Kadaffi was overthrown in Libya. That did not
bring peace to that region. Yeah, I mean it was
you just you traded one tyrant for another when that happened.
So I'm interested to hear this.

Speaker 1 (15:43):
Let's see if we.

Speaker 4 (15:44):
Can reconnect again with Glenn Beaton again, a columnist at
the Aspen Beat. Glenn, how are you welcome to the
Rod and Greg show.

Speaker 1 (15:52):
Nope, We're still want to have them.

Speaker 2 (15:54):
Maybe maybe Denny can connect him and not you.

Speaker 1 (15:57):
Yeah, well on.

Speaker 4 (15:58):
This, Denny Ken will we'll we'll try and get this,
see if we get this straightened out before we continue
with the show. But we're trying to talk to Glenn Beaton.
Of course he is a columnist with the Aspen Beat.
Always great to have Glenn on the show. But Donald Trump,
I think Greg had some real serious international challenges. He
was embraced, as you mentioned, by world leaders as he
went to the opening and reopening of the cathedral at

(16:21):
Notre Dame. And I think I just believe with Donald
Trump in the White House now foreign leaders are going
to respect us a little bit more. He has said,
you know, under Biden, there's no respect for America out
there right now. They don't fear America. And you know,
strength plays such an important role. I think in international

(16:41):
relationships there are characters like Putin and the guy in
China and the leaders in Iran who respect strength more
than anything else. And if you show strength, then it
changes the conversation and the equation and the equation. All right,
let's see if we've got Glenn with us. Glenn, if
we got you there, yeah, I'm here now, we got you?

Speaker 3 (17:05):
Now? Are you good to be here? Glenn?

Speaker 2 (17:08):
We're not giving up because we need to hear from you.

Speaker 3 (17:11):
We take care.

Speaker 2 (17:12):
How long it took on his noble broadcast.

Speaker 1 (17:14):
We need you, We need you.

Speaker 4 (17:15):
Thank you, Glenn.

Speaker 3 (17:17):
I thought you were doing pretty well about me.

Speaker 4 (17:19):
Oh well, thank you, Glenn. Thank you, Glenn. What does
a powerful America? How do you think it will produce
a safer world? Because that's what you write about in
your most recent column.

Speaker 3 (17:29):
Well, it's it's the new sheriff in town.

Speaker 7 (17:32):
Okay. The bad guys are scared of them. They're gonna
lie low, They're not going to mess around. They know
who Trump is. They know that Trump is not shy.
Trump is going to do what he has to do
to protect American interests, and in the course of that,
incidentally he's going to wind up protecting the interests of Europe, Japan, Australia,
South Korea, what we used to call the free world.

(17:54):
Everybody knows that even the Allies are a little bit
afraid of Trump. But I guarantee you people like Macrome
and the people in Germany and Britain and Japan are
relieved that they have a competent, aggressive, strong American leader
to rely on.

Speaker 2 (18:15):
So let me ask you, there's there's different ways that
that power and strength reveals itself. One is that bullies
never show up when there's someone strong around. They only
pick on the week. But let's talk about some of
these countries, like France or even Canada, our neighbors to
the north. What I wouldn't call them, you know, tyrants,

(18:36):
but I would say that they that they're their worldview
is not really aligned well, or I would argue, would
work against America's americans interests, America's interests. How do those
relationships change in the short term? I mean, I think
I see it in the in the visits to mar
A Lago or at in France just recently. But do
you see a tone and a change from Mexico and

(18:56):
Canada and France and and all these other countries that
have been traditional allies but had been pretty hostile in
terms of tone towards President Trump.

Speaker 7 (19:06):
Yeah, you know, one of the things that's going on
is Trump is not the toxing that he used to
be viewed as. I think that was always an unfair
view of him, but now he's not viewed that way
at all. He won a majority of the popular vote
by a significant margin, as well as obviously the electoral college,

(19:26):
and they see him as totally legitimate and somebody that
they're going to have to get along with going forward. Already,
you can see them practically kissing the guy's ring or
whatever portion of his anatomy that you want to refer to.
But you know, Trudeau calls him up from Canada, falling
all over himself to try to make right on the

(19:48):
border issue.

Speaker 3 (19:48):
Same thing in Mexico.

Speaker 7 (19:50):
Trudeau or Macron in France made a point of begging
him to come to the reopening of the Notre Dame
and he came. Interestingly, Joe Biden did not go, although
allegedly he was invited, but I'm sure that he just
couldn't stand to share the stage with a show stealer,

(20:12):
a show stopper like Donald Trump, and that's what would
have happened.

Speaker 3 (20:17):
Well, yea, these guys are lining out.

Speaker 4 (20:19):
Yeah, Glen, what do you think of the latest goings
on in Syria and Trump saying, Hey, you know, it's
really not our fight.

Speaker 1 (20:24):
We may stay out of this one.

Speaker 4 (20:26):
What I mean is that the right approach for him
to take when it comes to Syria?

Speaker 1 (20:30):
Right now? Do you feel?

Speaker 3 (20:31):
Yeah? I think it is.

Speaker 7 (20:32):
Syria is an extraordinarily complicated situation in an extraordinarily complicated
part of the world. Now, what he's doing behind the scenes,
I'm guessing is not exactly what he says he's doing,
But that's okay. You know, some of these strings need
to be pulled behind the scenes. Some of the negotiations
take place best if they're not in public. So I'll

(20:54):
bet you he's doing some things that we don't know
about to protect our interests and the interest of the Israelis.

Speaker 4 (21:01):
Glenn, As always, we appreciate a few minutes of your time. Sorry,
we weren't able to get you on it right away,
but it's good to get you on in chat with you.

Speaker 1 (21:07):
Thank you, Glenn.

Speaker 3 (21:08):
Always good to be here, guys.

Speaker 4 (21:09):
Thanks all right, Glenn Beaton, he is a columnist with
the Aspen beat joining us on our news maker.

Speaker 2 (21:15):
I want that, and we ran out of time, but
I want to ask him if he spotted Jill Biden
given Trump the googly eyes. I wanted to ask you
because I saw it. Oh no, you couldn't ask, but
I really want to know if he spotted it. I
think I saw something.

Speaker 1 (21:29):
Spot I saw.

Speaker 2 (21:31):
I saw sparks.

Speaker 1 (21:32):
You so bad? All right?

Speaker 4 (21:33):
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you know as someone doesn't have. You're looking, you know,
maybe for somebody who has everything, and you're going, what
could I get him? Have you thought about a designer blanket?
From Minky to Couteur and Greg. They've got Christmas colors,

(21:53):
Christmas patterns, Christmas ideas like you know, tree skirts, or
they now have pet couture, they have pet blankets and
pet beds, you name it. They've got everything here.

Speaker 2 (22:04):
Well, you know, we get to be like social scientists.
We get to see all the people coming in. Everybody's happy.
I don't see anybody disgruntled. I don't see anyone everyone is.
If anything, they just have a perplexed look on their face,
like what do I get? Because it's all there are,
really is. There's a lot of choices, there's a lot
of cool things. I mean, I watched foot I gotta say,
I watched a lot of football yesterday and I had
I had one of these blank tube blankets complimenting my

(22:29):
football watching experience yesterday.

Speaker 4 (22:31):
Yes, I did great to have. Well, let's talk about
let's move on, talk about something else right now. You
know a lot of people out there and say the
country is as divided as ever. Yes, I'm not sure
if I totally agree with that that we may be
account Yeah, but we may be. But what are the
forces that are driving us apart? How do we see
each other?

Speaker 8 (22:49):
Well?

Speaker 4 (22:49):
Joining us on our newsmaker line to talk more about
a recent study that takes a look at that is
doctor Jacob Has, PhD, a contributor at dead red News. Jacob,
how are you welcome to Roden greg Show. Great to
have you on with us today.

Speaker 8 (23:03):
Hey, thanks for having me back.

Speaker 4 (23:05):
All right, what do you give us a brief summary
as to what this study said about how we those
of us on different sides of the political aisle, how
we see each other.

Speaker 3 (23:14):
Jacob.

Speaker 8 (23:17):
Yeah, so it's not breaking news to anyone that people
may mis understand each other on the political of the bag.
What this report from More in Common says is that
the misunderstandings are severe. For instance, the biggest misunderstanding they
documented was most Republicans thought that Democrats cared more about

(23:40):
sexual politics, trans issues, et cetera than inflation or immigration,
whereas in reality Democrats and Republicans are both worried about
inflation and immigration, but the perception was very different than that.

Speaker 2 (23:58):
So here's here's what confuses me about this whole topic,
and that is typically when we're talking about people misunderstanding
each other, it's people that are either expressing a predisposition
to maybe I don't know, prejudice someone, or they see
someone and they make a lot of assumptions about them
without knowing any of the context behind them. But when

(24:18):
you get to campaigns and elections and you get to
the Democrat candidate and the Republican candidate, you have messages
and narratives that are being pushed out there. So it
doesn't surprise me that the Democrats or I would assume
as a Republican that Democrats care more about social issues
like abortion more than they do the inflation, or that
we have different opinions on immigration, because those narratives are

(24:40):
so starkly different by the different candidates. For instance, if
I were to take something like if you ask somebody
when you think of Geico, the insurance company, what do
you think of if someone said it was a Gecko,
it's not because they had this predisposition towards get Goos.
It's because there's been an advertising campaign that's connected the two.
Isn't it the case that that people are looking at

(25:01):
Republicans and Democrats based on the narratives of the campaigns
that are run.

Speaker 8 (25:06):
Yeah, that's a really good point. And this survey wasn't
asking about perceptions of Democrat leaders or Republican leaders. It
was really just saying, what do you think Democrats believe?
On the other side, and so you're pointing out the
obvious that, Okay, we think they believe what their leaders believe. Right,
And Kamala did give off signals that sexual politics was

(25:29):
such a high priority compared with the economy. But I
think the issue that this study is pointing out is
if our perceptions are that far a mood from reality,
it actually makes the harshness we feel worse. It's sort
of like a marriage, you know, if you start to
think your spouse or a child is really out to

(25:51):
get you or doesn't care about you, just that perception
alone will probably make things pretty difficult, right, And so
what they're trying to do is narrow the perception gaps
the whole. Their whole hope in this study is let's
just narrow the gaps so we're not as predisposed to
be so hostile to each other.

Speaker 4 (26:12):
Jacob, I want to ask you a question because I
think it came in this study about how much both
sides of the political are what they think about America. Now,
I always thought that as Republicans, we tend to love
America more than the Democrats do, is according to this Yeah.

Speaker 8 (26:33):
No, no, I'm glad you putting that out because because
this survey does confirm that that perception is false. That
Americans on both sides of the political spectrum care about
the country, although they believe it needs different things. They
also both sides care about immigration and inflation. And if

(26:57):
you just take those three things and you're like, oh,
all right, okay, so we're all seeing these are real
issues and we all care. I mean most people except
maybe there's a subset that really does hate America. But
I think most people are not like that.

Speaker 2 (27:14):
Yeah, let me ask you this. Can't we point to
the leadership or the like Let's say, if you looked
at there, you had a Paul Krugman from New York
Times that where it's just telling people with a straight face,
for whoever reads the New York Times, the economy is
doing better than it's ever done. Ever, if you don't
see that, you're just not sophisticated enough to appreciate the
data that shows that we are just doing so much better.
You had others saying that if you don't think that

(27:35):
the times are good and inflations, if you think inflation
is a problem, well you have a thing called money dysmorphia.
Aren't the voices who try to shape opinions and compel
people to vote for different parties or candidates are Do
we blame them for this misconception or this perception gap
that we as Americans may feel towards each other because
you have these stark different messages being sent out.

Speaker 8 (27:59):
For sure, and I think so much of media is
incentivized to do that. I think you guys are an
example of media voices trying to facilitate more thoughtful conversation.

Speaker 3 (28:13):
Right.

Speaker 8 (28:13):
I have to say, there's a three minute quiz you
can take to test your own perception gaps. I'm a
pretty optimistic guy, but I was harsher on almost every
category than reality. It's kind of startling anyway, in.

Speaker 2 (28:28):
The data you presented, I found myself inside those categories
as well.

Speaker 4 (28:31):
Interesting. Jacob is always right chatty with you. Thank you
for joining us, and happy holidays.

Speaker 8 (28:36):
Do you merry Christmas?

Speaker 3 (28:38):
Guys?

Speaker 8 (28:38):
Thinks all right?

Speaker 4 (28:39):
Doctor Jacob Hass contributor des Reight News. Talking about the
you know, he said we're thought leaders. That was kind
of nice of them.

Speaker 2 (28:47):
Jacob's clearly a very sophisticated, very very intelligent research.

Speaker 4 (28:52):
Very much as come on, we are broadcasting live from
Make You Go Tour here at Latin speaking of doctors.
Is the doctor of comfy blankets? Yes, she has her
doctorate in comfortable blank.

Speaker 2 (29:06):
Just come I like that generally?

Speaker 1 (29:08):
Yeah, you like yes?

Speaker 5 (29:10):
I love that? Will you remember that?

Speaker 3 (29:12):
Yeah?

Speaker 5 (29:12):
Call my husband in the house.

Speaker 4 (29:15):
You're the well you're probably already. All right, I don't
need to ask Mike. I know Mike too well. All right, Uh,
make you go tour Christmas time clock is ticking. Time
to get out in the shop, right.

Speaker 5 (29:26):
Literally, there's something here for everyone on your list. Everybody's
got a list of what five, ten, twenty people and
you can pick up something here for everyone on your list,
and you get treated like a queen or like a doctor.
You get treated excellent.

Speaker 4 (29:43):
You know, I just saw Lisa walk out helping someone.
I think she has eight bags with her. Yes, a blanket.

Speaker 5 (29:48):
We will help you out to the car, We will
help you select. We have cookies often, not every day,
but most days.

Speaker 2 (29:55):
Here's where I know that you were just you were
really everyone knows about your You're making no just You're
the queen of comfort. You're the doctor of comfiness. When
I see members of the military walking in here, this
isn't what they do all day. They're not thinking about
what do I get as a gift. So when I
see and I've seen in here today and during the
live broadcast, when I see members of the military coming in

(30:17):
to purchase gifts for Christmas, you're the words out well,
the word is out honestly a military when we get it.

Speaker 5 (30:26):
The military is near and dear to our hearts, and
I feel like we need to help them get the
best gift they can. And literally when they come in,
military will get the military discount, they get extra.

Speaker 7 (30:40):
Yeah.

Speaker 5 (30:40):
Just being close to Hiller First Space and all throughout
the state. I just feel like, you know, they serve
our country. We need to give them a little teeny edge,
you know for the thanks.

Speaker 1 (30:51):
You spent the.

Speaker 4 (30:52):
Weekend watching football wrapped in you did?

Speaker 5 (30:58):
Were you inside or outside?

Speaker 2 (30:59):
I was inside?

Speaker 5 (31:00):
Well that's cozy. Did you have popcorner?

Speaker 2 (31:04):
I had? I had a myriad of treats as I was.

Speaker 5 (31:07):
Yeah, you have a little a drink in one hand
and something in the act the other.

Speaker 1 (31:11):
What's their discount today is because they're listening to Rod
and Greg.

Speaker 5 (31:15):
Yes, well it's Rod fifty five. But if they put
in Rod and Greg it might work too. I always
want to be sive. Everyone's yeah, so.

Speaker 4 (31:30):
Rod and Greg fifty five. If you walk in the
store and say walk.

Speaker 5 (31:34):
In the store, any of them the same, Yes, any
of the stores. But we have an extra sale today.
It's called the adult Adult Blanket Seal, and all the
adult sized blankets seventy nine dollars excluding hugs are a
little more. Well, they'll take the fifty five percent off discount. Yeah,
seventy nine is great because it's enough under that threshold.

(31:54):
We find ninety nine is kind of the soft spot.

Speaker 4 (31:57):
So you aren't selling adults because you wouldn't sell you're
selling adult playing.

Speaker 5 (32:01):
You nice want to buy Rod for seventy nights.

Speaker 2 (32:04):
Get a fresh rout right right, take him home.

Speaker 4 (32:09):
I've cutting this off. All right, let's get a news update.
Let's go to Abby. They've got a great Christmas sale
going on right now. Their adult blankets are seventy nine dollars.

Speaker 1 (32:18):
That's a great buy.

Speaker 4 (32:19):
And if you come in and mentioned Rod and yes,
Greg fifty five, they'll give you a fifty five percent off.

Speaker 2 (32:25):
Yeah, if you're out, if you mentioned my name.

Speaker 1 (32:27):
There, you don't get anything. But you have to put
it with Rod.

Speaker 2 (32:29):
You both discount both. This accounts your your age, a
percentage and mind added together.

Speaker 4 (32:36):
You know, a little bit later on, we'll talk with U.
Scott McKay, he writes for The American Spectator as to
why he wants to keep Kamala around.

Speaker 2 (32:46):
I know, I actually like his answer. Actually, after doing
after realizing what he meant, I think I'm I'm going
to like this interview.

Speaker 3 (32:53):
Well.

Speaker 1 (32:53):
A great debate.

Speaker 4 (32:54):
Debate is underway, of course, as to what went wrong
for Democrats in this national election, especially with Kamala Harris.
A poll exclusively conducted by Dailymail dot com asked voters
to share in a few words, what they think was
the main reason Trump won and why the vice president lost.
Do you know what the main reason as to why
the vice president lost? This will this will surprise. I

(33:17):
don't believe this, but this will. This is what the
poll said.

Speaker 2 (33:21):
I read this poll. I don't. I think it's I
think that the reason that this answer got the highest
marks is it's the bitter people that lost that are
saying why it's because she's a woman.

Speaker 1 (33:30):
She's a woman. Yeah, I can't believe.

Speaker 3 (33:32):
I don't. I don't know.

Speaker 2 (33:33):
For Trump, I voted for Trump because he's not a woman.
There's no way that was the answer. The answer to
those who voted for Kamala and she did not win
is why did Why did Kamala not win? Because she's
a woman, and and they're disparaging those that supported Trump.
That's why that that that answer gets such a big response.

Speaker 4 (33:51):
Why I think she lost because she was incompetent and
it came through during the final weeks of the campaign.

Speaker 2 (33:55):
Yeah, you can't stare at the the issues that everybody
was worried about, like the economy, like inflation, like public safety,
immigration contributing to all of those things, illegal immigration, I
should say, and and then having a candidate that wants
to tell you to forget all that. None of that's
happened on your Yeah, but because Trump is a fascist
and just be afraid of him. That's not a winning
that's not a winning message.

Speaker 3 (34:17):
All right.

Speaker 4 (34:17):
More coming up hour number two the Roddy Great Joe
Live from Making Go Tour. When we come back, we'll
get your thoughts on ending birthright citizenship. Donald Trump would
like to do that. You're out the entire state of Utah.
But it's down to the final few days of shopping.

Speaker 2 (34:32):
And if you're looking, you don't freak everybody out. There's
more than two weeks and two days. Yeah, that's swimming
and time. I had a swimming in time. Don't sweat it.
You got all the time in the world. Just kick back.

Speaker 1 (34:44):
Yeah, wait till the last minute.

Speaker 4 (34:46):
And by your wife boiled egg from seven to eleven
first Christmas, like this guy did one years.

Speaker 1 (34:54):
Yes, Yes, from a NIF. What a nice gift.

Speaker 4 (34:59):
All right, let's talk about blankets. We'll talk about that.
We'll talk They've got a great deal today. Come in
and say ROD fifty five, or go online and use
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You put that fifty five percent on top of that,
and that's a whale of a savings.

Speaker 2 (35:20):
How much is that adult think you when it's not
seventy nine, I don't know. It's it's it's big bucks.

Speaker 1 (35:24):
Yeah, it's big savings.

Speaker 2 (35:26):
Yeah, big bucks you save.

Speaker 1 (35:27):
Yeah.

Speaker 4 (35:28):
And we do have a lot of guys who listen
to us, and guys are notoriously late.

Speaker 2 (35:34):
For just late. I don't know if any of you, gentlemen,
I don't know if any of you go through what
I do. But sometimes what I think is an awesome
gift like Blackstone grill or something like that.

Speaker 1 (35:44):
But that's the gift.

Speaker 4 (35:44):
It comes off, it comes off poorly.

Speaker 2 (35:47):
So if you come to me tour, you get you
get gifts that your wife might like more than your
instincts would tell you. My instincts aren't good on this.

Speaker 1 (35:55):
Topic, surprise, and so I would.

Speaker 2 (35:58):
I've been I've been instructed strictly just get gift cards,
you know, just generic gift cards. That's not fun.

Speaker 1 (36:04):
So I can come here, easy way out.

Speaker 2 (36:06):
Yeah, I can come in there. Well I was told
to do that, but I didn't have any other options.
This store gives you options.

Speaker 4 (36:12):
Yes, it does, lots of us, all right. Donald Trump
went on Meet the Press yesterday. Well, he was recorded
Friday and then he flew over to France and the
opening reopening of the Cathedral of Note to Dom. But
I watched a good portion of that interview yesterday. Didn't
see the very beginning, saw most of it, and I
think he looked relaxed. He knows what he wants to do,

(36:33):
and he's ready to get into action. What I hate
Greg's we've won another forty three days before he takes over.

Speaker 1 (36:40):
I don't even we want to get going.

Speaker 2 (36:42):
The world's not waiting. I think that I think the
lack of leadership from President Biden has been so evident.
I think that people know. I think, especially our larger
countries in the world, good and bad by the way
the ones that are allies those that might not be,
they know that the world is a safer place, or
that there's a greater chance for piece when America is strong.
I don't think people have felt that way as of

(37:03):
the last four years. And I think that that that
that that is the gravitational pull you see coming towards
President Trump. Is that strength brings also with it the
stability and the peace that I think that this world needs,
and I think that it doesn't take That's why you
saw it. And when he went to France, how if
I know they were they were celebrating the opening of
Notre Dame Cathedral after it being destroyed by that fire,

(37:27):
But that was almost the secondary thing going on in there.
What was really going on is he entered that into
that cathedral and every eye of every leader in this
world was on him, and they all wanted to be
congratulatory and they wanted to shake his hand. And I
thought that was a very powerful message. Bien, including doctor Jail,
she seemed to like it. She seemed to be picking
up what he's putting down. She was looking at him,

(37:49):
She had her daughter looking over at him with those
as I say, googly eyes. I saw it. I witnessed it.

Speaker 4 (37:54):
I saw it. Well, there are a lot of a
lot of news stories that came out of that interview.
The one that I think a lot of people are
talking about today. The president, of course, immigration one of
the two major issues in this campaign, the other one
being the economy. But he was asked about birthright citizenship
on Meet the Press with Kirsten Welker, and here's what
he had to say.

Speaker 9 (38:15):
You promise to end birthright citizenship on day one. Is
that still your plan?

Speaker 2 (38:19):
Yeah?

Speaker 3 (38:19):
Absolutely.

Speaker 9 (38:20):
The fourteenth Amendment though, says that quote all persons born
in the United States are citizens. Can you get around
the fourteenth Amendment with the year change?

Speaker 10 (38:29):
Well, maybe have to go back to the people. But
we have to end it with the only country that
has it.

Speaker 2 (38:33):
You're an executive action.

Speaker 3 (38:34):
They're were the only country that has it.

Speaker 10 (38:36):
Do you know if somebody sets a foot, just a foot,
one foot, you don't need to on our land. Congratulations,
you are now a citizen of the United States of America. Yes,
we're going to end that because it's ridiculous.

Speaker 2 (38:48):
Nor executive action.

Speaker 10 (38:50):
Well, if we can through executive action, I was going
to do it through executive action, but then we had
to fix COVID first. To be honest with you, we
have to end it.

Speaker 4 (39:01):
We have to end it. I mean a lot this
Greg is and we were talking during our show meeting
this morning. This is where I think people around the
country are around the world really take advantage of the
goodness of the American people. I mean, birthright citizenship is
part of our constitution. I think of people around the
world know that that's why they come here to have

(39:22):
their children, because if in fact they're born here, if
you're illegal or not, you are a citizen of the
United States. And a lot of people think we're being
taken advantage of on this.

Speaker 2 (39:31):
Would you agree absolutely? And in fact you know it's
been abused so thoroughly. Oh, in terms of this birthright
citizenship and what is omitted from that, the description of
the fourteenth Amendment in that interview is that I believe
and I was looking for the language specifically, but it's
within the constructs or the jurisdiction, this jurisdictional standing, Yeah,

(39:55):
that someone has and so I think there's some language
in there that says the United States gets to define
what that means, and that would be an Act of Congress.
You wouldn't need an amendment to the United States Constitution,
but Congress would need to act to define that that
language in the Constitution which it has, which is its
authority to do. And I think that again, that should

(40:15):
be a bipartisan issue, that should be one that we
should put some order to that because what you don't want,
you want to have it. You want to have immigration,
and you want to have an orderly process. But if
you put incentives to break the law that are greater
than the arduousness of legally entering the country, well then
you're just ensuring that you'll have illegal immigration because you've
you've put out too many carots out there, You've incentivized

(40:38):
illegal behavior too much. Is why when we talked last week,
if you don't have a good, orderly and successful immigration
process where people can get the visas, work visas, they
can they can be seasonal workers. If you hate that,
then you're going to let you then you're going to
have to accept illegal immigration, because then people will circumvent
a process that's impossible to get over that citizen sit issue.

(41:00):
That is just too great of an incentive to go
through the legal process of entering if that child is
born on American soil, it's it's promoting illegal entry.

Speaker 4 (41:10):
Well, there are a lot of comments on this, but
this was posted by a someone who heard what the
President had to say about birthright citizenship. Lit's what he
had to say, Greg. He said, my wife works in healthcare.
We live in rural Virginia. Every week she sees dozens
of young girls that arrive in Virginia from other countries,
usually Central America, and are eight months pregnant. So they

(41:35):
want to get into this country because they know if
they are here their child is born here, that child
is an American citizen. Then when you want to issue
your immigration laws, you know you're playing on, you know,
the heartstrings of the American people. Do we want to
break up that family? That is what is taking place
in America today, you.

Speaker 2 (41:54):
Know, And I don't What I don't like is that
question does evoke a lot of emotion from people to
people because we're kind, we don't want to treat people unjustly, okay,
And so they say, well, are you going to break
up a family? We're going to break them up, and
nobody wants to do that. But in that discussion, what
we don't talk about are the over three hundred thousand
miners children unaccompanied though which we have that were that

(42:18):
were brought into this country during the Biden administration, that
because they didn't want to have babies in print, in
jail or whatever you know, in cages, let strangers pick
them up. And no one knows where these three hundred
thousand plus unaccompanied miners have ever gone. And I'm going
to tell you, I would hope that in this in
this first initial effort by the president President Trump where

(42:40):
he's looking at immigration laws, in addition to focusing on
these criminals, you've got to find these kids, you know.
And you can keep talking about separating kids. We're not
even getting there yet. We got criminals, and then we
got these traffickers of kids that have taken three hundred
thousand plus children that the government's supposed to know and
doesn't know where in the world they are. They need
to find them. And that's and so instead of just

(43:02):
using people's emotion against them or their compassion, there should
be a lot more compassion, a lot more concern about
what's gone on in the last four years with minors
with children. Yeah, forget about split them up, how about
finding where these kids are.

Speaker 4 (43:15):
Well sender Mike Lee, who I think is scheduled to
join us tomorrow. We'll spend some time talking with Mike
about this. But he pointed out, well, she didn't read
the entire Constitution, which points out and explains what birthright
citizenship is. She should have done that and allowed the
President to respond. But my question is, great, how do
our listeners feel on this. I mean, you know, we've

(43:38):
talked about how compassionate people are in this state, and
that we're kind of friendly, so to speak to illegal
immigrants because we want to help them out.

Speaker 1 (43:47):
What about a situation like this.

Speaker 4 (43:49):
A child that is born here right now is in
fact an American citizen, but have his parents or his
mother if they know this they come here. You know,
you've heard about this before China. You know, women from
China will come here and they'll be they'll be placed
in these homes where they're several dozen of them were
pregnant and they're all pained to have their child born

(44:12):
in the United States of America, so they in fact
can become American citizens.

Speaker 2 (44:16):
Yeah, and sometimes it's because they've had so many kids
by way of quota that they would they're not allowed
to have more kids, and they still don't want to
They don't want to abort it. But I'll tell you this.
So the way it goes as all persons born or
naturalized in the United States, and here's the part she
omitted and subject to the jurisdiction thereof.

Speaker 1 (44:33):
Uh huh, they are.

Speaker 2 (44:34):
Citizens of the United States, subject to the jurisdiction thereof.
That is the language that is rightfully pointed out, can
be defined subject to the jurisdiction thereof. What is what
does it mean to be an American citizen? What is
that subject to the jurisdiction? How is that defined? And
I can only imagine the practical asking about you know
Uton's and how how do we grapple with you know,

(44:55):
the different you know, the rule of law plus the
compassion side. I think that the natural born citizen part
would probably be something going forward. I don't know that
you can, would would I don't know if you can
take citizenship away, but I do know going forward, you
can that incentive to enter illegally to enjoy that benefit.

Speaker 4 (45:14):
Hopefully, hopefully you can, because he's put that down as
one of his goals in the year now when we
come back, we want to get your thoughts on this
tonight eight eight eight five seven o eight zero one
zero eight eight eight five seven o eight zero one
zero on your cell phone to I'll pound two fifty
and say hey, Rod, Sandy had to leave, but Lisa
is with us tonight from Minky Go Tour here and Layton.

(45:35):
Always great having Lisa's business busy today.

Speaker 11 (45:39):
It has been busy, yes, right, as we get closer
to Christmas, right, it's naturally things pick up, but tonight
is extra busy. So yeah, we've got a really great
deal for your listeners. So I think that's what's bringing.

Speaker 12 (45:53):
Them all in.

Speaker 2 (45:55):
Well, it's fun. I saw you carrying bags. I don't
know if you were buying, but look you were. You
were cattle a lot of bags in your hands.

Speaker 11 (46:01):
Yes, I was helping a customer out who had come
in and they had gotten more than they could carry out,
so they need some assistance. So I was jumping in
to help get them out to the car.

Speaker 1 (46:09):
And that is usually the case.

Speaker 4 (46:11):
I rarely see somebody come in and buy one or
two blankets. Yes, they're usually buying four or five or six.

Speaker 2 (46:16):
Yeah.

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Speaker 4 (48:47):
Yeah, all right, if you're just joining us now, what
we're talking about is a comment made by President Trump
during the interview that aired on Meet the Press last night.
He talked about a variety of issues. I thought he
did a great I think Greg agrees with me, But
he did bring up the issue of birthright citizenship.

Speaker 2 (49:04):
And as hard as the interviewer tried to shame him
out of his position, he was rock ribbed. He did
not did not retreat from it at all, and just
kept explaining we need to get this done. So our
question to you, our listeners, is what do you think
about this birthright citizenship. It's it is very unique to
this country. There's very different versions of it. But you

(49:24):
have to have one parent that's the citizen. There's all
kinds of other ones. But this is this blank carpet,
you know, blank check. Just if you're here, you get
what do you say number eight eight eight five seven
zero eight zero one zero if you'd like to call
it in comment. Let's go to the phones and go
to Curtis and Clinton. Curtis, thank you for holding. Welcome
to the Rod and Greg Show.

Speaker 13 (49:45):
Hey Rodin Greg. Thanks you can you hear me?

Speaker 3 (49:48):
Yeah?

Speaker 1 (49:48):
Sure, go ahead, okay.

Speaker 13 (49:51):
Because I got my radio albums you're hearing on the phone.
A retired Army linguist and I actually took paralegal, took
the law on par card retired. One of the things
we covered the birthright citizenship subject to the jurisdiction thereof
means being here legally. It also excludes diplomatic personnel that
are here on diplomatic community. Several of my children were

(50:15):
born in Germany. They have dual citizenship. They have German
citizen given to them because we were in Germany legally
and subject to the laws of the state of the
country Germany. I'm surprising one of the constitutional type people
that are on the show a lot have uh that
no one's discussed that aspect of the birth right citizenship.

(50:37):
And that's what I had to say. Thanks guys, thank
you curse.

Speaker 2 (50:42):
You know, Kurtz brings up a really good point. So
he brings up what Senator Mike Lee brought up. He
said subject to the jurisdiction thereof He's he is interpreting
that in real time as be having citizenship and not
needing Congress to further uh define that, and so I
think that's a that's a really good point.

Speaker 1 (50:58):
Wow.

Speaker 4 (50:59):
All right, let's go back back to the phones. Let's
talk with Harry, who's in Harriman tonight on the road
in great show. Harry, how are you, Thanks for joining us.

Speaker 14 (51:09):
Thanks for taking my call. My question is what about
these people who've brought their kids up from Mexico. They're
not separating them. You know, if if we move to
another state, we're not going to leave our kids in
Utah and move to the other state and leave our
kids there. The kids should go with their parents. Wherever
the parents go, the kids should go. But they don't
question that when they bring their young kids up here

(51:31):
for Mexico as well.

Speaker 1 (51:32):
No they don't. They do not as well.

Speaker 2 (51:35):
And that's exactly right. And I'll tell you, yes, thank
you for calling. And here's the reality too. If you
if you break the law and you and you are
let's say you're in an automobile and you're drunk driving
or whatever you're doing, their children in the car, they
don't say, well, we don't want to separate the family. No,
if someone's broken the law, they're going to they're going
to make that separation. And whoever decided to break the
law in the company of their own children have put

(51:57):
those children at risk autp. So I think our call
points out where that responsibility lies. Do not come to
this country if you were worried about that separation, because.

Speaker 4 (52:06):
You've got a chance and you could be deported.

Speaker 2 (52:08):
Should be getting better and should be getting higher. So
that's that the onus is on a parent to raise
their kids and protect their kids. If they aren't, if
they're not comfident enough to not put their kid at
risk when they break the law, then then you got
to deport them all.

Speaker 4 (52:22):
I say, you brought up a good point, Greg, how
about if we support the law.

Speaker 1 (52:25):
Let's say we follow It's.

Speaker 2 (52:27):
Just not that complicated. Yeah, but what do you say
to that? Well, you know, it's three hundred and fifty
billion dollars. So this disaster that Biden created, that President Trump,
you have to come in and clean up. Do you
know it costs money? Like there were thirty six trillion
dollars in debt and this ratits lady is so worried
about the debt and how much it will cost. Well,
the societal cost of letting this open border occur for

(52:51):
four years his eclipses. I don't care what they want,
how they want to juice the numbers. I don't care
what they want to tell us. It costs your your
your public education, your housing, your public safety, you name it.
It is all being compounded and impacting financially this country
at citizens It's governments, political jurisdictions. But listening to these

(53:11):
the regime media, there's a cost, as if they ever
cared before about any cost.

Speaker 4 (53:17):
And the argument is going to be on the birthright citizenship.
You can't break up families. You don't have to break
up family, just don't break it along. If you're being
sent to your home country, wouldn't you want to bring
your child with you? Don't want to leave here it's
without their parents. Come on, folks, let's wake up on
that one, all right, more your phone calls on this
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Speaker 4 (54:46):
Well, let's reset this for you as you head home tonight.
We're talking about birthright citizenship. The President was asked directly
in his interview that Eric yesterday I meet the press
and NBC if he do away with birthright citizenship, and
he said absolutely, and they're going to explore ways to
do it as soon as he becomes president of the
United States again come January twentieth.

Speaker 2 (55:05):
Here's the sentence in question fourteenth Amendment, all persons born
or naturalized the United States and subject to this jurisdiction
thereof our citizens of the Unit, our citizens of the
United States. That's what we're talking about. Okay, So what
do you say, folks in terms of whether what we
should do with a birthright citizenship and how it's working,
and how it's not working. Let's go to the phones
right now. Brad has been patiently waiting in Layton. Brad,

(55:27):
Welcome to the Rod and Greg Show.

Speaker 6 (55:31):
Yeah, hey, guys, thanks for taking my call. I was
just thinking along the lines of, you know, these people
broke the laws of the land coming into this country legally, yes, yes,
And so why why can't we go back and figure
out who did that and then find their children and

(55:54):
maybe send their kids back with them? Because how does
breaking warm off trump the other law?

Speaker 8 (56:00):
Like?

Speaker 6 (56:00):
How how do they gain citizenship just because their parents
broke the laws of the land to get them citizenship? Like,
I don't think that's fair and and and the only
reason why I bring it up is because what does
changing the laws of natural born citizenship due to our
kids and their kids? You know, how do they gain

(56:22):
citizenship at that point?

Speaker 2 (56:24):
Yeah, Brad, it's a good question. And I'll tell you
it's been abused. This provision that if you're just born
on the soil of the United States, you are automatically
a citizen without regard of how it came to be
that you were born in America has been the glaring problem.
And you're identifying it. So I think the definition would
be if you aren't a legal citizen of this country,
if you are not here legally under the you know,

(56:46):
the description of a citizen of the United States then
or at least one parent, then then you you don't
enjoy that naturalized or citizenship status. And I think so
that's how you need to do it. And I think
the Constitution the way it's written, where it says anyone
born here and subject to the jurisdiction thereof the jurisdiction,
they're off the United States, and it's by definition your citizenship.

Speaker 4 (57:06):
Yep, that's right. All right, back to the phone as
we go. Let's talk with JR, who's in Springville tonight
on the Roden Great Show.

Speaker 3 (57:12):
JR.

Speaker 4 (57:13):
Thanks so much for joining us. Happy holidays, do you, yeah,
thank you.

Speaker 15 (57:18):
How you doing, Rod?

Speaker 1 (57:19):
We're doing well. Thank you for asking JR. Ye have
your thoughts on this? Yeah? Yeah, what are your thoughts
on this?

Speaker 16 (57:24):
Well, I've got I've got a little bit of a
said a situation where I've you're talking about how in
other countries they don't recognize citizenship of Americans that are
born in another country. Well, because a gentleman before I said, Germany.
My wife is Koreans. She since got her citizenship in America.
Our first child was born in Korea. I was doing apprenticeship,

(57:45):
apprenticeship over there. This is in nineteen ninety six and
our ninety seven, and they would not recognize the citizenship
of my son, even though his mother was Korean, because
I was American who would not recognize his citizens And
that's the first thing. The second thing is is that
I had to take my newbird son into the State

(58:06):
Department or the concert over there and show him to
the consulate. He had to get a passport when he
was one month old. They issued a first certificate from
the State Department because I was an American citizen. My
question is, is that how we should do it for everybody?
Is that that you have to show that you prove

(58:27):
that you are an American citizen and then and then
automatically default for the child receiving citizenship. If it's done
that way internationally, why can't we do that in the
United States?

Speaker 2 (58:39):
Here here point and I agree, I agree wholeheartedly, and
I know it's those extra steps he had to do
to go to the consulate or to get that persei
oficate from a US consulate. But look, I just believe
in the two way street. If it's good one way
coming back the other way, it should be the same,
So we should. I think you're spot on, Jr. And
I think that ought to be the consistent way to
apply that that policy and laws the countries have. Let's

(59:01):
go to Scott, who's listening, must be online Rod from
George on our iHeartRadio app from Saint George, Scott. Thank
you for having you.

Speaker 8 (59:11):
Thank you, Hey.

Speaker 17 (59:12):
I just wanted to kind of bring up the history
of why that was included in the fourteenth Amendment. As
I understand it, it was because some of the states
after the Civil War would not allow the former slaves
to vote. They said, no, you're not going to vote,
and so they included it to say you're if you're
born in this country, you're a citizen. And that's the

(59:34):
end of the argument. And I think that's long past
that that problem is long past, and we can adjust
that very simply by saying you have right the citizenship
and right to vote and and everything else if your
parents are born in this country, and that's it. I
don't know if it's more complicated.

Speaker 1 (59:53):
Than that, you know, Scott.

Speaker 4 (59:55):
Thank you very much for bringing that up, because I
was trying to remember why did this take place, and
then I remembered it was an issue with slavery and
the slaves who were in the United States, and I
think that's long past.

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I think we could do it a different way.

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Just look at the day when the passed. I mean,
it all applies. It is absolutely surrounding around and applying
to the issue of slavery back then, where they were
trying to prohibit people that are no longer slaves for
being able to vote, and that was how they addressed it,
and that it's twenty twenty four and now we're seeing
unintended consequences. I would argue you we are from that
amendment that we're never intended from the start.

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Speaker 2 (01:03:26):
Here's Abby talking about this natural born citizenship or birthright,
birthright citizenship, birthright now in the discussion with the President
Trump or on meet the press, and we want to
know what you have to say about this. Let's go
straight to the phone. Let's go to Ray and Lee
High Ray, Welcome to the Rodd and Greg Show.

Speaker 16 (01:03:42):
Welcome to Hey.

Speaker 18 (01:03:45):
I want to digress real quick and then come back
to the main point I wanted to make you ever
notice when you're watching TV and they have the advertisements
for charities like Saint Joe, Saint Jude's, Shriners, all these
different charities, animal people, you name it, they've got a
charity for it. But you never see any kind of
commercials for raising money for these wars. We get involved

(01:04:07):
in tens of billions of dollars ukrain and money for Israel,
now money for Syria. There's no commercials to raise money
for that. Ever, now there's no commercials to raise money
for COVID. Billion dollar checks were sent out. There were
no commercials. And what it proves is the will of
the government when the government wants to spend our money regardless.

Speaker 1 (01:04:30):
Of the Oops, we just lost them.

Speaker 2 (01:04:35):
I just lost it.

Speaker 1 (01:04:36):
I think we just lost it. Lost Ray.

Speaker 4 (01:04:38):
If you can't call us back for some reason, we
lost you here. Let's go to it, back to the phones.
Let's go to Corey in woods Cross tonight. Corey, how
are you welcome to the Rod and Greg Show.

Speaker 19 (01:04:48):
Hello, I'm doing good. I think the key part of
the fourteenth and then that is under the jurisdiction thereof,
and I think sanctuary cities are in violation of that,
and that giving birthright citizenship to elle lately and is unconstitutional.

Speaker 4 (01:05:08):
Well, I would agree with you birthright. I think sanctuary
cities are unconstitutional. It'll be interesting to see how the
new borders are. Tom Holman deals with sanctuary cities, but
he's also suggested if the Denver mayor does not want
to cooperate, we'll just put him in jail.

Speaker 2 (01:05:24):
Yeah, there's a lot of Huber's, a lot of big
talk happening, you know, with in November and maybe the
early December about what they're going to do or not
going to do under Trump administration. I imagine it'll look a
lot like it did in France. Yeah, once he's president,
I think a lot of these cities, they're mayors, their
governors are going to start wanting to get with the
program and work with this president. His goals are worthy.

(01:05:47):
He wants to bring this country together, and I just
I don't think they're going to be received the way
they would hope to be if they want to be obstructionists. So,
and I think you're right the subject to the jurisdiction
thereof maybe you don't even need Congress to act. Maybe
that has always meant you need to be a citizen yeah.

Speaker 1 (01:06:02):
And hasn't.

Speaker 4 (01:06:03):
Eric Adams, the mayor of New York, already reached out
to Trump and said, yeah, we'll work with you, yes,
because they've got a real issue they do in New
York City with illegal aliens who are committing criminal acts
and they're struggling. I mean, if one city in America
has really felt the impact, this is one of them,
that's New York.

Speaker 2 (01:06:23):
I had a discussion with a friend of mine that
said left of center as a leftist, and they are
still of the belief that this immigration issue is conflated
between They don't even draw distinction between illegal immigration and immigration.
And what they want to say is that Republicans are
just opposed for race, for purposes, or for reasons of
being racist, all immigration of any kind, of any reason.

(01:06:44):
And we're not saying that. I mean, that's a cheap shot,
I'd say, because and I think it's why President Trump
was elected because we do see a difference between legal immigration,
of which we embrace and we support. We're a country
of immigrants, versus the illegal entry into the country, which
has caused nothing but cartels to get rich and for
us to be less safe and harmed. In a bunch

(01:07:05):
of different ways.

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Speaker 1 (01:07:15):
I think we do.

Speaker 3 (01:07:16):
Ray.

Speaker 4 (01:07:17):
Welcome back to the riding, Greg Shuil, Sorry, we loved you.

Speaker 1 (01:07:20):
Go ahead.

Speaker 18 (01:07:21):
I thought I got long winded. It got long winded.

Speaker 2 (01:07:24):
I need to hear your second point. Good, good first point.

Speaker 8 (01:07:27):
Ye.

Speaker 18 (01:07:28):
So the point I was making was that money is
what rules Washington and filters down into the counties and
the cities. See, if they start deporting folks, judges all
over the country are going to intercede, and politicians in
blue states are going to find ways to intercede. But

(01:07:50):
here's the thing, there's no reason why if we have
the House and the Senate and the White House that
are represented is right now cannot be authoring bills. Got
hold individuals who invite this type of is problems to
this country to be held accountable. If an illegal in
a sanctuary city commit the murder, the leaders are out

(01:08:13):
city sift be held accountable.

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Thanks for having me. I look forward to talking with you.

Speaker 2 (01:09:11):
So, I guess my front burner issue is what made
you decide you've been an educator? This is something you
know a lot about, You've seen a lot, you have
a lot of institutional knowledge. What made you decide to
run for our state school board?

Speaker 20 (01:09:25):
Well, I appreciate the question. Yeah, I actually put my
hat in about sixteen years ago. I put my hat
in to run for this same seat, and back then
they were nonpartisan races, and I was very disgruntled by
the process. Quite frankly, it's only been about four years

(01:09:45):
now that school board our state school board races have
been partisan races. And knowing the process of how you
now get nominated and how you run for public office
or for the state school board as a partisan race
was was much more attractive to me. And uh and

(01:10:05):
so I looked at that and said, you know what,
I'm gonna throw my hat back in once again. And
and uh and and here we are.

Speaker 4 (01:10:13):
So Yeah, Cole, You've been an educator, as you pointed out,
for a long long time. What is the difference between
students and classrooms today versus even five or ten years ago.

Speaker 1 (01:10:23):
What has changed?

Speaker 20 (01:10:26):
Yeah, and and and and this is this is the struggle.
I mean, a lot of times you could put it
on the student, but these are kids.

Speaker 3 (01:10:33):
You know.

Speaker 20 (01:10:34):
One of the things I love my job. I love
working with kids. What I don't love some oftentimes is
the bureaucracy of education and some of the struggles that
we face in terms of you know, trying to trying
to do what's best for a kid, regardless of of
the bureaucracy that may be in place. Certainly, we we

(01:10:54):
have different issues.

Speaker 16 (01:10:55):
You know.

Speaker 20 (01:10:56):
Back back when we were kids, it was you know,
it was video game, it was Mike Tyson's punch Out
and a few other things. And nowadays at social media
and and and uh and you know, and we we
wanna we want to you know, talk about how when
I grew up it was this that and remember when
we were when we were young, we used to uh,

(01:11:16):
you know, kind of mock the the old man. I said, well,
when I was a kid, I had to walk up
field both ways, right.

Speaker 16 (01:11:23):
And you know, our kids.

Speaker 20 (01:11:25):
You know what, what I'm finding with kids nowadays, the
extremes are getting more extreme. Our our good kids are
just great and and our and our bad kids are
are really struggling. And uh, and so the extremes amongst
our kids, I think, because that gap is getting wider
and wider. But but kids will be kids, and and

(01:11:46):
and and we need we need good people in place
to lead those kids and make sure that they're being
let in the right direction.

Speaker 2 (01:11:53):
So cool, I'm I'm a I'm a dad, but my
kids are now young adults. But I lived through this
time where I was a public servant at the same
time that my kids are going through our public schools.
And it really wasn't until after I got out of
public service where there were some kids that took some
videos of some teachers that were talking to and these
were high school kids. But it was every in my mind,
every parent or grandparents' nightmare to here's some of the

(01:12:15):
things that the teacher was saying to the students in
terms of gender, in terms of whether it was fluid
or not, or different identity politics that we're getting into
a school or a classroom discussion that you wouldn't I
wouldn't imagine it to be. There are those anecdotal moments
or are we seeing our classrooms in public schools becoming

(01:12:37):
more politicized? And are there occasions where these kids are
being pointed in a direction that really doesn't have to
do with curriculum or a year over year progress and
in that curriculum, I mean, what's going on on the
So what I'm asking is take your classroom experience and
what you're seeing, share with us what you're seeing and
how you're going to apply that type of leadership to

(01:12:57):
the state school board.

Speaker 20 (01:13:00):
Yeah, I'm I'm a teacher that I've been in the
classroom for twenty seven years, and quite frankly, for twenty
seven years, I've battled against my teachers' union over this
very issue, which is, you know, in most industries, if
you do a poor job, we fire you. In education,
if you do a poor job, we protect you. And

(01:13:21):
I think that's wrong. And I think with our greatest asset,
with our kids, if we got a teacher that's doing
a poor job, we can't protect those teachers. We've got
to make sure that we get bad teachers out of
the classroom and that we reward good teaching in the classroom.
And you know, the I would say that, you know,

(01:13:42):
most teachers that I work with, most of my peers,
I think ninety five percent of them do a tremendous job.
But it's that five percent that really sours the public
and gives teachers a bad name. And I think that
we've we've got to we've got to take a stand,
and we've got to start to make sure that when
when bad team teachers are pushing an ideology under our kids,

(01:14:04):
which is against the law that those teachers are dealt
with in a way that a clear message is being
sent that we're not asking you to indoctrinate our kids.
We're asking you to educate them in the subject matter
that you've been asked to according to the curriculum and
the strands and standards that the state has approved for you.

Speaker 1 (01:14:24):
On our Newsmaker line, we're talking with Cole. Kelly.

Speaker 4 (01:14:26):
Cole is a new member of the Utah State Board
of Education. We're talking about education here in Utah. Cole,
I've been saying this on my radio show ever since
I started about fifteen years ago. I know Greg has
been saying the same thing. A lot of talk now
about government efficiency, and one of the targets right now
happens to be the federal Department of Education.

Speaker 1 (01:14:47):
Can we live without it?

Speaker 20 (01:14:50):
We can absolutely live without it. And I get very
excited about the possibility of what could happen in Utah
if in fact that happens, and and education should be
a state matter and it should be managed and ran
by the states. And you know, it's like no, like

(01:15:11):
many other industries, bureaucracy gets in the way of productive
teaching and right Now, if you're a special led teacher
in Utah, you're gonna you're going to say this is
absolutely true, and talk to any special ed teacher. The
amount of red tape and paperwork that those individuals have

(01:15:33):
to do to complete their job is just ridiculous. And
we have a huge retention issue with not just with
teachers as a whole, but it's particularly special ed teachers
because there's so much federal regulation that is in place
that makes it difficult for them to do their jobs.
And you know, one of the things that President Trump

(01:15:54):
has has you know, did a good job of in
his first four years and I look forward to again
the next four years is eliminating a lot of that
red tape, not just in the private industry, but in education.
I would love to see a lot of that red
tape eliminated. I'm a big proponent of competition and education,

(01:16:15):
but in order to compete, you have to you have
to be on a level playing field, and public education
in order to compete with private schools and and other
avenues of educating our kids, we've we've got to have
a level playing field and we've got to have some
of that red tape removed. So I look forward to

(01:16:35):
what could happen if if indeed the Department of Education
were eliminated.

Speaker 2 (01:16:42):
So what I hear you saying is we don't need
the bureaucracy. The funding we could certainly keep and we
just don't have to export it to Washington to have
them create more bureaucracy and send us back what's left.
Take that funding and make sure that our title I
kids are kids with special ed are are you attended to?
And the funds are given that are needed. Let me
ask you this COVID, Uh, you're over your progression when

(01:17:03):
you saw how many kids uh weren't able to access
their their class curriculum online. Uh, this just seemed. We've
had one former educator called a grand canyon that occurred
in your educational experience for students. If you observed that,
and do you think that the answer or what do
you think the answer is? To help get getting these
kids back who missed so many, so much of that

(01:17:25):
that school public school experience because of COVID. How do
we make up that time and how do we make
sure those kids get on the trajectory where they're going
to see success.

Speaker 20 (01:17:35):
Yeah, it significantly damaged that there's there's a gap. I
like the analogy. The the other thing that I feel
like COVID has done is that it created scenarios where
accountability for for our students has completely gone out the window.

(01:17:55):
And you know, one of the one of the things
that I hope we can poke on an education is
getting back to holding students accountable graduation. At this point,
administrators like to brag about their graduation rates, and you know,
my point is, hey, graduation is an important step in

(01:18:18):
the process. But the question that we have to be
asking is what did those graduates learn? What do they know?
What information did they gain while they were going through
the system. And just a certificate it says, hey I
graduated from high school, isn't isn't enough to say, hey,
this is what this student was able to accomplish while

(01:18:39):
they were there. And so what you have is you
have administrators pushing kids through the system with a very
little regard for what they're learning. And since COVID, you've
seen that almost accelerated, and we're pushing kids through the system,
and we've got to get back to really looking at,

(01:19:00):
you know, student achievement and what they're achieving as they
moved through that system rather than just pushing them through
the system. But yeah, COVID certainly has changed the face
of education, and we're trying to, you know, put things
back in the bag that sometimes are difficult to do.

Speaker 4 (01:19:19):
Col Kelly remember the Utah State Board of Education. Cole
great having me on the show. I know we'll be
talking to you more down the road when the education
issues here in the state come up. So we appreciate
your time tonight, and Merry Christmas and Happy New Years
to you.

Speaker 20 (01:19:33):
Yeah, thank you, and Merry Christmas to you.

Speaker 1 (01:19:35):
All right.

Speaker 4 (01:19:35):
Interesting thing that Cole brought up, Greg, there's the story
out today that Utah's high school graduation rates rised dramatically.
As a matter of fact, Utah one of the nation's
of biggest gains in high school graduation. But I think
Goal brought up a good point. Yeah, they may have
that certificate, but have they learned something? And are they
ready for the world.

Speaker 2 (01:19:55):
Years and years ago, when I was the chair of
the House Education Committee, I had the superintendent of our
public schools say to me, be careful what you're measuring
as a degree of success. He says, do you want
one hundred percent of graduation rate? I can get it
to you next year. Yeah, we'll just graduate everyone. Yeah, Okay,
that doesn't that's not that's not as advertised if you're
not drilling down to see what that that degree actually means.
And that's why I think Cole Kelly was explaining, uh,

(01:20:17):
and I think he's one hundred percent.

Speaker 1 (01:20:18):
Right now he is. All right.

Speaker 4 (01:20:19):
We are broadcasting live today from Minky Go Tour here
and Layton Lisa is back with us to talk about
what they have for you when it comes to the
Christmas holidays.

Speaker 1 (01:20:28):
You have just about everything year we do.

Speaker 11 (01:20:31):
And I have to say we still have a really
great selection of things in store and online.

Speaker 7 (01:20:35):
You know.

Speaker 11 (01:20:36):
I think sometimes right you go to certain retailers and
you're doing strapping, you're like, oh, sold outs, adults hold out.
At Minki Kator, we have an amazing selection of blankets. Literally,
anyone on your Christmas list you can find something here
at Minki Kator for them.

Speaker 1 (01:20:49):
And it's not just blankets anymore, No, you have everything.

Speaker 11 (01:20:52):
Yeah, it's it's amazing. What would you know has become
you know, the different things that they've come out with
over the years, and I just.

Speaker 12 (01:20:59):
Wow, I wonder what twenty twenty five will hold right.

Speaker 1 (01:21:02):
You know, Greg was go ahead, you got a question.

Speaker 2 (01:21:04):
Yeah, I love that. I love what you said because
I just went shopping with the fan. It was like
a Griswold family shopping experience. My family and I went
out and I found that most of the things that
we were looking for you couldn't find. Yeah, in stock.
You have to get it online. And it's like, well,
I'm here. It's kind of a splurge buy, I mean,
or an impulse buy. You don't have it.

Speaker 12 (01:21:24):
I don't I'm not going to get it.

Speaker 2 (01:21:25):
Yeah, you don't have that problem here.

Speaker 11 (01:21:26):
No, No, we still have such a great selection. So really,
coming in stores, you're going to get it, you know.
It's kind of that instant gratification. You're going to get
an amazing deal today and you're going.

Speaker 12 (01:21:37):
To get to take it home with you, you know. So
it's it is great.

Speaker 4 (01:21:40):
And one thing I always like, say, I'm old enough
to remember this. He's still young, but that old potato
chip commercial where you can't eat.

Speaker 12 (01:21:48):
Just you're right this over and over again.

Speaker 4 (01:21:50):
If you come to this store, don't buy just one
makey blanket, because if you take it home, it will disappear.

Speaker 11 (01:21:56):
It will someone and inevitably, right someone at home home
is going to take that blanket and you you won't
see it again. So but with the savings that we've
got for your listeners tonight, they can afford to get
more than just one when they're shopping.

Speaker 1 (01:22:08):
I didn't realize this, but you're selling adults now.

Speaker 11 (01:22:11):
We yes, we sell infants, we sell adults, We sell monsters.

Speaker 4 (01:22:17):
Adult blankets though, you've got a great show.

Speaker 11 (01:22:19):
Yeah, yeah, so our adult blanket is a great sofa
throw sized blankets. What's the perfect gift giving size?

Speaker 12 (01:22:28):
You know that people you know they love to give.

Speaker 11 (01:22:29):
And the price point, especially today are classic and luxury.
Adult sized blankets are seventy nine dollars. They normally run
one seventy nine and.

Speaker 12 (01:22:39):
One eighty nine. So that's some fantastic savings.

Speaker 1 (01:22:41):
Yeah, of savings. And the Rod fifty five.

Speaker 11 (01:22:44):
Yeah, so if you if you're looking for something outside
of the adult sized blanket, we still have Rod fifty five,
which will give you fifty five percent off any full
price blankets. So that's another awesome way to save.

Speaker 4 (01:22:54):
All right, check it out right now. If you're in
the mood to thelu Christmas shopping, we'll be here until
seven o'clock. We're open till late.

Speaker 12 (01:23:00):
We're open till nine.

Speaker 11 (01:23:02):
We have extended holiday hours, so we're here till you
got an extra hour to shop.

Speaker 4 (01:23:07):
That's what they need, all right, Moore coming up on
the Rod and Greg Show, Let's get your news update.

Speaker 2 (01:23:11):
Now, there's like a post traumatic you know, goes on.
But I think we're gonna we're gonna explore this. I
think it's worthy of discussion. Believe it or not. We
might want Kamala Harris stick around.

Speaker 4 (01:23:23):
You and I are kind of in favor of her.
We don't want to go away.

Speaker 2 (01:23:28):
I think there is some value in it.

Speaker 1 (01:23:29):
I think there is.

Speaker 4 (01:23:31):
Well, we're on the road today at Makeing Go Tour.
But what we've been talking about today mentioning this to
you that Keith Urban.

Speaker 2 (01:23:40):
For the contest.

Speaker 4 (01:23:40):
Yes it is okay, I told you this.

Speaker 1 (01:23:43):
Ten times already.

Speaker 4 (01:23:46):
I'm excited for We're gonna give you a chance right
now to win two tickets to see Keith Urban in
concert July eighteenth at Utah First Credit Union Amphitheater. Puts
on a good concert. I saw him several years ago
now at the as Caesar's Palace down in down In Vegas, right,
and that they they have a great auditorium there, but
it only holds about three to five thousand people, so

(01:24:08):
it's a little more intimate than eighteen or twenty thousand, right, Yeah,
but he is considered, I think, along with Brad Paigsley
on the country side of things, two of the best
guitarist music today. Yeah, they can he played a great guitar.

Speaker 2 (01:24:23):
Well, I know that this is this is going to
be a hot contest because everybody loves that. I know
they think loves Keith Ervis.

Speaker 1 (01:24:30):
Yeah, Nicole Kittman does too. Do you know that?

Speaker 2 (01:24:32):
Yeah, I hear they're pretty tight.

Speaker 4 (01:24:35):
You've heard that all right. Now, here's how we're going
to play the game. I'm about to read you some
lyrics from one of his songs, and the first caller
who calls in and can identify the song those lyrics
come from, you'll win the two tickets.

Speaker 2 (01:24:49):
Now, I see the lines are already lighting up. Now,
I guess that's great to get into the qub. But
they haven't even heard the lyrics song to know the
name of the song yet.

Speaker 1 (01:24:56):
May Well won't tell them, No, you have.

Speaker 2 (01:24:58):
To tell them. Okay, these lyric that's going to read
the lyrics. You better. You have to know the lyrics,
and then you got to know the song.

Speaker 1 (01:25:04):
All right? You ready for this?

Speaker 2 (01:25:05):
Okay?

Speaker 4 (01:25:06):
Here is Here are the lyrics. There's a new wind
blowing like I've never known. I'm breathing deeper than I've
ever done, and it sure feels good. Why you're laughing.

Speaker 2 (01:25:18):
At me your voice, it's just the way you just
amaticly know that that dramatic read was just amazing.

Speaker 1 (01:25:24):
Here you do it all right?

Speaker 4 (01:25:26):
Here it is again. Man, there's a there's a new
wind blowing like I've never known. I'm breathing deeper than
I've ever done, and it sure feels good.

Speaker 3 (01:25:37):
You like that?

Speaker 2 (01:25:37):
It's like you.

Speaker 1 (01:25:38):
That's didn't all right?

Speaker 2 (01:25:41):
You're looking at me when you say it. I feel
like I feel it in my heart when you say it.

Speaker 4 (01:25:44):
Now, what what song did that come from? And if
you can identify it, you'll win to see Keith Urban
on July.

Speaker 1 (01:25:53):
Here's the number to call.

Speaker 4 (01:25:54):
Eight eight eight five seven O eight zero one zero
eight eight eight five seven O eight zero one zero.
We just read lyrics from one of Keith Urban's big hits.
What big hit did those lyrics come from? See if
you can guess. Yes, would you have guessed that?

Speaker 1 (01:26:08):
No? No, do you pay attention to lyrics?

Speaker 7 (01:26:11):
No?

Speaker 2 (01:26:11):
Not like when I was younger.

Speaker 4 (01:26:13):
Really, well, you love that rap stuff, Yeah I do. Yeah,
you can name rap songs hip hop R, and you
love it hip hop R and B.

Speaker 1 (01:26:21):
I just call it rap, I guess.

Speaker 2 (01:26:23):
Yeah. You'll notice no bumper music of the kind of
music I like.

Speaker 1 (01:26:26):
But well there's a reason for that, just.

Speaker 2 (01:26:29):
A dictator when it comes to bumper music.

Speaker 1 (01:26:31):
Well, that's good of music you like sucks.

Speaker 2 (01:26:33):
No. I like the eighties too. I missed my eighties music.

Speaker 1 (01:26:36):
Now, you know.

Speaker 4 (01:26:38):
I listened to an eighties channel the other day. Yes,
it's horrible music.

Speaker 2 (01:26:44):
Are you kidding me? That was one of the greatest
decades of.

Speaker 4 (01:26:48):
Sixties beatles to about disco, the best period of music.

Speaker 2 (01:26:51):
Oh my goodness, goodness, if we have listeners left to
even enter the contest after that, what you just said
will be all right.

Speaker 4 (01:27:00):
We've given you the lyrics. Can you identify the song
eight eight eight five seven eight zero one zero Keith
Urban in concert at Yusuana Amphitheater, Now, yous, oops, I
made a mistake. You have to call it the where
is it the Utah First Credit Union Amphitheater.

Speaker 2 (01:27:16):
There it is.

Speaker 4 (01:27:16):
I called it the correct name.

Speaker 2 (01:27:17):
Good luck, folks. I know you can do it. I
know you can do.

Speaker 1 (01:27:20):
It all right.

Speaker 4 (01:27:21):
Eight eight eight five seven eight zero one zero. And
we'll be doing this all week. We'll have a different
and I'm gonna make you do the reading next because
I'm gonna make funny.

Speaker 2 (01:27:28):
No, I'm not gonna do it. You do it so well.
That traumatic reading was emotional. I felt it in my heart.

Speaker 1 (01:27:35):
You are sick man.

Speaker 3 (01:27:36):
All right.

Speaker 4 (01:27:36):
More coming out the Rotten Greg Show right here on
Utah's Talk Radio one oh five nine k NRS.

Speaker 1 (01:27:43):
We need to congratulate Dan from Tuila.

Speaker 2 (01:27:46):
Dan knew he was able to decipher that song from your.

Speaker 4 (01:27:49):
Song that we played was Somebody Like You by Keith Urban.
I think that may be.

Speaker 1 (01:27:54):
His biggest song. That is his biggest hit. Hell you're
a music guy? Was that his biggest hit?

Speaker 2 (01:28:00):
It's us up there?

Speaker 4 (01:28:01):
Yeah, So we'll play again tomorrow. We'll read some lyrics
from a well known Keith Urban song. If you can
identify what songs those lyrics come from, you'll get a
pair of tickets to see Keith Urban in concert coming
up July eighteenth at the Utah First Credit Union Amphitheater.
All right, let's talk about the Democrats, and in particular
about Kamala Harris. She basically indicated about a week ago

(01:28:24):
that she's not going anywhere. She's going to remain in politics,
and some see her still as the leader hahaha of
the Democratic Party.

Speaker 1 (01:28:32):
What say you, mister Hughes. Do we want to see
your go away?

Speaker 7 (01:28:35):
No?

Speaker 2 (01:28:36):
I've actually wanted her to be out everywhere. I want
her to be the faith, the voice, the everything about
the Democrat Party.

Speaker 1 (01:28:43):
Yeah, it does help.

Speaker 7 (01:28:43):
Well.

Speaker 4 (01:28:43):
Joining us on our newsmaker line to talk more about
that is our good friend Scott McCay. Scott as a
publisher with the website The Heywride. He's also a contributor
at The American Spectator. Scott, thanks for joining us tonight.
Do we really want to see Kamala Harris stick around
or go?

Speaker 1 (01:29:00):
What they use?

Speaker 3 (01:29:01):
Scott?

Speaker 15 (01:29:01):
Well, because we want Democrats to lose elections. I think
that she's, you know, she's like the golden ticket for that,
because you know, she's been in politics a very long
time and she had success in California, which does not
look like the rest of the country. And you know,
is a place that people are trying to run away

(01:29:23):
from as is, so you know, the idea that she's
the front runner for twenty twenty eight for them, like
this is the greatest thing that's ever happened to Republicans.
And I'm actually working on a book right now called
The Revivalist Agenda, and it's a sequel to a book
I wrote a couple of years ago called The Revivalist Manifesto,

(01:29:43):
the main theme of which was we were about to
change into a totally new political era in this country,
and the one we've been in had been going on
since like nineteen thirty two, and all of the assumptions
that underlie that were you know, falling away. I think
it's the election we've seen that this is like a

(01:30:03):
real theory that has some legs to it. And in fact,
Mike Lee was on Twitter Friday night, I guess it
was with this long thread. Basically his dates are different
than my dates in terms of the previous eras that
we've been in, but basically say, look, the fourth era
of American politics is beginning and we're going to really

(01:30:24):
see it next year. And I think, like you know,
of course, I think he's right. I wrote a whole
book basically saying the same thing. Part of what makes
these eras work is the party out of power can't
get their act together.

Speaker 3 (01:30:38):
Right.

Speaker 15 (01:30:39):
The Democrats couldn't get their act together once the Civil
War got started, and it was twenty five years before
they were relevant in American politics again. And the same
thing happened to the Republicans after FDRs went in nineteen
thirty two. Right, the Democrats now are showing all of
the evidence of a party that lives in the wilderness.
Right if they can't find some better than Kamala Harris,

(01:31:02):
and what's more than that, they can't do different things
than what they've done to put themselves in this position. Right,
So Daniel Penny gets off in New York today and
they want to go in the streets and riot and
play the race card. The whole country looks at that
and goes, no, we just turned that out. We don't
want that. Like everybody is done with race in America.

(01:31:25):
Everybody's done with you know, the idea that the Civil
rights era continues, right, Like, people are finished with all
that stuff. And it's all the Democrats have, you know.
So if Kamala Harris is their standard bearer. This is great.
This gives actually gives the Republican Party an opportunity to
change the country in ways it needs to be changed.

(01:31:48):
So I hope she does stick around. I think it'd
be fantastic.

Speaker 2 (01:31:51):
You know, I couldn't agree more. And I'll tell you
that I'm watching what you're watching. There is a real
there's a real argument going on inside the Democrat Party
and really on the talking head networks to the regime
media where the Democrats are arguing with each other. One
is arguing, like the departing Democrat National Committee chairman, he's
saying that he wants to embrace identity politics and he

(01:32:13):
thinks that it wasn't pushed hard enough and he's going
to name names when he leaves that office here in
the coming weeks, and he's mad that the identity politics
didn't take us stronger, wasn't a stronger theme in the campaign.
You have others that are saying, we're talking about things
that aren't relating with everyday people. And what we talk
about isn't the experience the American people who are having
that one I want them to forget. I don't want

(01:32:35):
the Democrats to take that advice. I want them to
go straight as you do, to the Kamala Harris or
her message or narrative of identity politics abortion more than
eggs and milk being too expensive. I want them to
continue to try and socially engineer this country and tell
people you can't self determine or figure out what you
want to do, we have to do it for you.

(01:32:56):
And I do I think that she ought to be there. Well,
the people that are identifying what you and I see
is why they lost and why America doesn't identify with
the Democrat Party. Will that wing of the Democrat Party
prevail or do you think the Kamala identity politics side
liberal or liberal side of the party will will stay
in power in the coming months and years.

Speaker 15 (01:33:18):
Well, you know, you can go back to a little
bit of semi recent history and see what eventually is
going to play out. Right, Like Bill Clinton and his
crew came along in nineteen ninety two with the whole
new Democrat thing, which was a little bit more to
the center from what the sort of northeastern liberal set

(01:33:39):
that Michael Ducacus represented, you know, like it was a
recasting of the Democrat Party. And it is something that
was a little bit more palatable to the American people.
Eventually they will come around to something like that. The
problem is is that Barack Obama set that party up
as a socialist party, and so you're gonna have to

(01:34:00):
urge out all of the Obama influences of that party
to make it possible for somebody rational, you know, to
get their nomination or to lead the party, because right now,
I mean, it's it's a very deep state, redistributist, redistributionist
identity politics party, and like there's really nothing else that

(01:34:23):
they bring to the table at this point, and so
it's start, you know, And the weird thing is all
they want to do is play identity politics, and they're
losing with the people whose identity politics they think should
be paramount. Like black men are flying away from the
Democrat Party, Hispanics are flying away from the Democrat Party.
And the whole party was set up basically to benefit them,

(01:34:45):
or at least to sell them on the idea that
they're benefiting. And you know, and you're bleeding people because
none of the stuff works, number one, and also because
you're trying to marry that brand of identity politics to
the LGBTQ stuff that blacks and Hispanics especially don't like.
And so like you just have a big, a big

(01:35:07):
mess that their party has become. Eventually they'll figure it out,
but like the longer it takes for them to do
that is the longer they're going to spend in the wilderness,
and the better the opportunity that you have to actually
change the country in ways it needs to be changed.
The other thing that's going on right now that I
think is so much fun, and I had another piece
last week at the Spectator talking about it, is you know,

(01:35:30):
so Pete Hegsith is is you know, in the crosshairs,
and they think they're going to knock him out because
they don't want a guy like heg Sith running the
Pentagon who actually cares about the troops and doesn't want
to waste money on garbage.

Speaker 3 (01:35:46):
So what do you do?

Speaker 15 (01:35:47):
Well, he drinks a lot and he you know, he
wasn't a good husband, and that you know, like what
I call that is the old game, right you know
the Clintons used to call it the politics of personal destruction,
which was rich coming from the Yeah, but you know
it's the old game. Oh well, we're just gonna do
a scandal campaign on this guy and you know, will

(01:36:08):
make him unpalatable. And the American people saw that coming,
had no interest in it. It was all based in,
you know, built to try to scare off these you know,
sort of establishment rhinos in this in the Senate Republican Caucus.
And all of a sudden, what they're finding is that
the American people will not put up with the old

(01:36:31):
game anymore. And so Jony Ernst was in the crosshairs
of this, so was Lindsey Graham, and they were like, oh,
we don't know if Pete Hegseth is you know, up
to snuff. And you know, now they're singing a little
different tune because they can smell which you know, they
can smell the cooking. And you know, it's really interesting
to watch this because the American people are done. We

(01:36:53):
know this game. We know that it's not about whether
Pete Hexith drank too much when he got back from Iraq.
We know that it's not about that. We know that
it's about whether this guy would clean up the Pentagon,
and these people don't want him to be in a
position to do it, right, so you use the old
game instead. Of actually debating the issue. Everybody sees it coming,
everybody's disgusted by it. And that was a lead balloon,

(01:37:15):
which is one more indication that we're in a little
bit different era of American politics. When you can't play
the old game anymore. You actually have to win on
the merits now because people are woken up and people
know that the country is not where it needs to be,
and so you need serious discussions and not stupid scandals.

Speaker 1 (01:37:37):
I love what Scott said about the old game. It's over.
We're playing the old.

Speaker 2 (01:37:42):
Game if they've got to win on merit. Guess what?

Speaker 1 (01:37:44):
Good luck?

Speaker 4 (01:37:47):
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coming up here on Utah's Talk Radio one five nine Canterrest.
But our last chance is well to talk with Lovely Lisa.
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Speaker 1 (01:41:27):
Yes it is. Uh in the final few minutes.

Speaker 4 (01:41:31):
You know, when I heard the verdict being handed down
this morning that he was found not guilty, I went
amen to that the way it should be.

Speaker 2 (01:41:36):
Do you understand how confusing that I'm happy for the verdict.

Speaker 1 (01:41:39):
Hell, and we're talking about Daniel Penny and Penna.

Speaker 2 (01:41:42):
This former marine who helped people in need. The guy
said he was just crazy Luna tickets on that subway
train and say he's going to kill people. He doesn't
care if he dies, very threatening and people were afraid,
and he intervened and until police could be there, and
stayed there the whole time. All that. So when on Friday,
when there was still hung jury on the manslaughter charge,

(01:42:03):
it was worrisome to me because they they dismissed that
charge and said, okay, go to the other charges. And
there was another one that was a lesser degree. But
the judge that instructed the jury that you can't even
consider the lesser crimes unless you find him guilty of
the first. Yeah, well they they dropped that charge that serious.
I'm thinking to myself, if you have it, if it's
a hung jury, it means at least one and who

(01:42:24):
knows how many of the jurors think he was guilty
of manslaughter because they can't come up with a consensus
whether he's guilty or not guilty. So when you go
to the lesser charges, something in this poor kid, he's
he's in trouble because they are all going to gravitate
to the lesser charge if they if they couldn't agree
on the on the on the bigger charge, they came
back not guilty unanimously. Well so yeah, good, I'm happy.

(01:42:46):
That's great. I don't understand it, but I'll take it.

Speaker 4 (01:42:48):
And what bothered me, and I said this on Friday,
this judge, after he dismissed the more serious charge, was
also almost telling the jury, in my opinion, find something, yes,
find him guilty of something.

Speaker 1 (01:42:59):
He was and they couldn't. And that's and I'm going,
that's not a.

Speaker 4 (01:43:02):
Judge's role to tell the jury to go back and
see if he can find him guilty of something.

Speaker 2 (01:43:06):
You know, here's the deal. I I honestly think that
they they felt, they felt a bit browbeat. I think
it's one of the reasons they came back with a
K as quickly as they did. They didn't they thought
that that miss miss trial would end that trial for them.
They had to come back and they're like, no, we're done.

Speaker 1 (01:43:20):
We're done.

Speaker 4 (01:43:21):
Well, we've had a lot of fun here at Mickey
Coteur today. That does it for us tonight, head up,
shoulders back. May God bless you and your family. That's
a great country of ours. Enjoy this holiday season. We're
back tomorrow at four. Have a good evening.