The Rod and Greg Show: Trump's Goal to Deport One Million Illegals in First Year; Arizona to Purge Voter Rolls

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Speaker 1 (00:00):
That's not our gig.

Speaker 2 (00:01):
We don't do that.

Speaker 1 (00:02):
We don't say raise taxes. We're supply siders as Republicans,
and we cut all taxes and that's that. We don't
raise taxes on the rich. That's a Joe Biden's speech. Yeah,
and what in the world that better not happen.

Speaker 2 (00:14):
I don't know, but they're talking about it. We're also
talking about what's going on with Arizona and voters. You know,
yesterday we talked about the national popular vote referendum. Let's
kind of run out of gas. Since Donald Trump won
both the electoral college and the popular vote. Nevada has
turned that down. Well, now Arizona, guess what they're doing,
cleaning up their voter rolls. They're gonna see what they

(00:35):
can take. Yeah, amazing, amazing things. A little bit later on,
we'll talk about the president's effort to deport one million people.
We may ask our listeners about that a little bit
later on in the show today. I kind of like
that idea, and we'll talk about what Arkansas is doing
to protect his farmers. So we've got a lot to
get to today, and as always, we invite you to
be a part of the program. Eight eight eight five

(00:57):
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seven oh eight year old one zero. Are on your
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Speaker 1 (01:15):
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Speaker 2 (01:19):
Oh don't you get to ride the ride?

Speaker 3 (01:21):
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Speaker 2 (01:21):
Gonna invite you to Lagoon just to interact with you.

Speaker 1 (01:23):
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to clarify because this that's gold there. Yeah, because it's
you know, it's not h cheap. I mean, it's fun,
it's worth it worth every time it is.

Speaker 3 (01:35):
Uh.

Speaker 2 (01:35):
Now, our favorite nudes caster in the world is Abbi Bunell.

Speaker 1 (01:39):
Abby. We love Abby listening to her for so long
have you? Oh yeah, she's been his genius. Rod. I
want to tell you that when I was a public servant,
I love coming on your show, but what I really
liked is being on a show that Abbi Bunell was doing.

Speaker 2 (01:53):
This was on I mean, you're the real deal Abby.
Of course you kind of tell she's not originally from America.

Speaker 1 (02:00):
She might be from across the pond.

Speaker 2 (02:01):
I think she's crossed the pond. But she has dual citizenship.
Do you know that?

Speaker 4 (02:05):
Oh?

Speaker 3 (02:05):
You know.

Speaker 1 (02:07):
That would be that she's very thorough.

Speaker 2 (02:09):
Well, we we like to occasionally pick on Abby, even
though we whipped her fifty years ago. Yes, we we
kid with her a little bit. Right, Well, guess what
the UK did today. The Supreme Court in the UK
has now decided that a woman is a woman.

Speaker 1 (02:27):
No, yes, I don't buy it, there's no way.

Speaker 2 (02:30):
Yeah, a woman is a woman?

Speaker 1 (02:33):
Like by you mean? Are you talking chromosomes on? Are
you talking chromosomes on me? Are you're talking science?

Speaker 2 (02:38):
The UK Supreme Court delivering a landmark ruling today that
affirmed that the legal definition of woman refers specifically to
those born biologically female.

Speaker 1 (02:49):
So definition, So let me just say back, I just
want to peat it back because it's what you're talking crazy.
A woman is a biological woman?

Speaker 2 (02:59):
Yes, whoa yeah? And this had to deal with discrimination,
right and it excludes biological men who identify as women.
The horror of the UK has come down on those trends.
Whatever you call it and said you are not a woman.

Speaker 1 (03:16):
So the UK, in my mind, sorry Abby, if you're listening,
is it not been the bastion of liberty and freedom
as of late, they've been like they let the terrorist
uh you know, protest and I saw a guy going
go England to England and they put them in cuffs
for saying it. I mean, it's just a little heavy
handed out there. But if they're calling a woman, those
members of society that were born as a woman, uh huh,

(03:38):
now you're now you're cooking with gas.

Speaker 2 (03:39):
So the decision go ahead.

Speaker 1 (03:42):
I was gonna ask I wonder how Abby feels about that.

Speaker 2 (03:44):
This head in the news booth a while ago said hey,
good to and ship right on baby.

Speaker 1 (03:49):
Yeah good.

Speaker 2 (03:50):
She didn't say right on baby. I'm kind of paraphrase.

Speaker 1 (03:53):
Yeah that doesn't sound like that doesn't tell she's much
more cultured, sophisticated response to you.

Speaker 2 (03:59):
Well, apparently the decision, according to this story today, marks
a major course correction after years of gender ideology that
is sweeping Europe. As a matter of fact, one of
the women involved in this lawsuit said this, everyone knows
what sex is and you can't change it. Is common sense,
basic common sense and the fact that we've been down

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a rabbit hole where people have tried to deny science
and deny reality and hopefully this will now see us
back to back back to reality.

Speaker 1 (04:30):
One would hope.

Speaker 2 (04:31):
Yeah. This is a reaction of one woman after hearing
the announcement today in the UK.

Speaker 5 (04:36):
If we were in a really difficult place in Scotland
then we thought we were going to see rights for
women rolled back. And today the judges have said what
we always believed to be the case, that women have
protected by their biological sex.

Speaker 3 (04:53):
The sex is.

Speaker 5 (04:54):
Real, and that women can now feel safe that services
in space says designated for women off the women and
we are we are enormously grateful to the c ring
Hold for this.

Speaker 2 (05:08):
Good for the U case of yea, good for them.
Their private spaces, spaces set aside for women were protected
and a guy who thinks he's a woman should not
be allowed into there. And we all agree with.

Speaker 1 (05:18):
Let me tell you something. JK. Rowling has taken so
much she's taking the position that women are women. She's
taken so much abuse the author of the Harry Potter novels,
and I'm telling you, uh, this is a good. This,
This should brighten her day as well. Yeah, because she has.
It's been ridiculous how much abuse she's taken for being
for women or saying women are actual women or not.

(05:42):
She's taken a lot of hits for that.

Speaker 2 (05:44):
And speaking speaking of women, you and I both have
been following this Leticia James story coming out out of
New York State. She is the attorney general who went
after it with blazing guns at Donald Trump about him
inflating the value of holmes that you have property and
everything else. Guess what she's now She they're looking into
finding charges against her on the exact same thing. It's

(06:07):
a little bit different, greg but basically the exact same thing.

Speaker 1 (06:09):
Actually it's more egregious because they charged President Trump with
real estate fraud that had never been interpreted as or
enforced or prosecuted as fraud before.

Speaker 2 (06:19):
Ever.

Speaker 1 (06:19):
This is a new interpretation of the law, brand new
for him. The real estate fraud that she's engaged in. Oh,
that's just run of the mill fraud. That's just saying
things on your application that are patently and verifiably false.
She is not a resident of Virginia. Okay, she's because
she happens to be the Attorney General of New York,
which you have to be a resident of the state
in which you've been.

Speaker 2 (06:40):
She claimed one of the applications she had a home
in Virginia. She's a resident of Virginia.

Speaker 1 (06:44):
And your spouse was her father, she put on there. Anyway,
it's she's she's committed. She's committed fraud, loans, all kinds
of things, and so can I play my clip? Let's
see is the time because this is the Leticia James
I'm talking about, because she remember she no one's above

(07:06):
the law, not a not a president, and I would argue,
not even an attorney general of a state of New York.
But let's hear. Let's hear it from Leticia James's own voice,
how she feels about the law and the and no
one being above it.

Speaker 6 (07:19):
My message is simple, no matter how powerful you are,
no matter how much money you think you may have,
no one is above the law. And it is my
responsibility and my duty and my job to enforce it.
The law is both powerful and fragile. And today in
court we will prove our case. I thank you all

(07:40):
for being here, and again justice will prevail.

Speaker 1 (07:45):
Well, that's what I say. Now laws the law. I
don't care who you are, how powerful you think you
are the laws the law well, and it can be
it's powerful, but frail. Well if Letitia James skates on this.
And by the way, they have her, they have the
the filing documents and they show where.

Speaker 2 (08:02):
She's lied, and they got the documentation.

Speaker 1 (08:04):
It's not hard to say that you acquire you got
this subsidized loan for units Fanny may loan for units
that are four units or less, and you actually it's
a five unit building. You you got that loan for.
So it's not hard to say, this is what you're
supposed to have for. Count how many in her building
that she got mortgaged or that she got financed? It's five.

(08:26):
Where's the There's no ambiguity to this. She's she has
been putting fraudulent information.

Speaker 2 (08:31):
She's got red handed. All right, more coming up. We've
got a lot to get to today. Great to have
you along for the ride. It is the Rott and
Greg Show on Talk Radio one oh five nine k nrs.

Speaker 1 (08:40):
You're flying this plane. I'm big enough to admit it.
I'm just I'm just I'm your navigator, sir.

Speaker 2 (08:45):
All right, welcome back to the Rod and Greg Show
on This Wing Men Wednesday. Great to be with you are,
Greg and I have talked about this a lot, you
know the President. There are two issues that we've talked about. Immigration,
the President I think has done a fantastic job there,
and the economy and trying to change what has existed
for forty or fifty years, America's dependency on other countries
to make things for us. The President is trying to

(09:07):
change that. But what about his tax plan? Greg? Where
on earth is that?

Speaker 1 (09:12):
Yeah? Well, I got to tell you, in the absence
of movement, you run the risk of not getting one
because you're losing time and there's not a lot of
it before midterms, you know, around the corner, and you
got to get some political will yeh, So.

Speaker 2 (09:27):
Got to get it going well. Joining us on our
Newsmaker line to talk more about that is John Tillman.
John is the CEO of the American Culture Project. John,
how why are you welcome to the Rod and Greg Show.

Speaker 7 (09:37):
Well, I'm great, but I want to be Tom Kazanski.

Speaker 1 (09:44):
That's right, Iceman, It's actually pretty good.

Speaker 7 (09:46):
In the end, I want to be.

Speaker 1 (09:47):
Iceman Iceman's official John.

Speaker 2 (09:50):
All right, John what you know, we've been talking about
this tax plan. It's very important for the president to
get this done and make it permanent. What is taking
so long, John, what's happening here?

Speaker 7 (10:01):
Well, what's happening is that the House Republicans have a
very very very narrow majority and they successfully got through
the budget and which they needed to do is a predicate.
They had to solve the budget issue first before they
could turn their attention to the tax plan because just
that's the order in which you have to do it,
because money was going to run out and we're going

(10:22):
to run up against the debt ceiling and all the
rest of it. So these things take time when you
have a very narrow four seat majority in the House,
and that is the great challenge. And the other part
of that challenge is you have so many really good
conservatives like Tom Massey and many others who just don't
want to make these go along, get along compromise deals
that unfortunately Republicans have done for a long time. So

(10:44):
it took them awful lot of arm twisting and log
rolling and all the dirty, rotten business and politics to
get the budget deal done.

Speaker 2 (10:51):
So I think they are going.

Speaker 7 (10:51):
To turn their attention to the texts plan now, which
is why I had to call them out on the
New York Post because everybody's sort of distracted by this, terrified.

Speaker 2 (11:00):
The bigger play in the longer run.

Speaker 7 (11:02):
Is going to be the tax fight to make sure
we preserve the twenty seventeen rates and don't have a
massive tax like at the end of the year.

Speaker 1 (11:08):
You know, the only thing that frustrates me is I
would first, I don't think our Congress has any muscle
memory when it comes to doing anything of any of
this heavy lifting at all. But I would love them
the multitask. I'd love to be able to have the
President try to realign and reframe these trade partnerships with
nations around the world. I'd love to wean ourselves as
a country off of the dependency of imports from China.

(11:29):
I think there's so many good things going on there.
It doesn't mean that I don't expect or want the
tax cuts from seventeen to be extended, which all that
means is that's not even a tax cut. That means
our taxes won't be raised, as you've said. But I
would think that not raising taxes right now would be
about the lowest hanging fruit. I don't even know why
that is a hard issue when I hear people say, well,

(11:51):
how are we going to pay for it? It's not
like a real tax cut unless we add taxes on
tips and other things. But if you're just talking about
the tax cuts being extended, that's the status quo, that's
the current tax rate. That doesn't You might see the
budget officer whatever saying that if you raise taxes you
get this much more money, but you don't have to
pay for this one. This one is exactly what we're
getting today. Why can't that be done at the same

(12:14):
time they're talking teriffs? Why. I know you say it's
and I agree with you. I know it's they had
to get the budget done first and all that. But man,
this doesn't seem like it should be a hard decision.

Speaker 7 (12:25):
Well, what you're driving as one of my rules of politics,
my rules of politics, and it is this, when Democrats
win elections, even with the narrow majority, they can't wait
to implement their agenda, And Republicans win elections no matter
how large the majority, they can't wait to equivocate.

Speaker 1 (12:39):
On their agenda.

Speaker 7 (12:40):
And that is kind of what we're saying, right now
and it's the great frustration. It is the reason Donald
Trump won the nomination in twenty sixteen and twenty twenty
and of course twenty twenty four, and it's the reason
they won the election. What you talked about multitasking earlier,
we are seeing the greatest multitax getting president in the
history of the presidency.

Speaker 2 (12:58):
It's been spectacular.

Speaker 7 (13:00):
Of the Congress, the House and the Senate. Would simply
take a cue from him and start doing that would
be much better shape. But there are some structural problems.
The dirty secret is that the parliamentary process by which
legislation passes in both the House and the Senate, the
House being I wait for it, the House being faster
than the Senate. Then there's so many rules and procedural

(13:23):
matters that you have to get through, and the opposition,
the minority party, has a lot of tools to slow
down the process. That is all part and parcel of
light slows down. And then the other reason that slows
down is there's some moderate Republicans who are looking to
make deals and extract pork barrels, spending and earmarks and
all the rest of it that goes on for their
pet projects and that's when the sad truths and politics

(13:45):
in Washington, d C.

Speaker 2 (13:45):
In the country. Yeah, here we go again. We're talking
with John Tilman. He's the CEO of the American Culture Project. John,
let's see we get this done. Okay, what does it
mean for the US economy.

Speaker 7 (13:58):
One of the most important parts about extending these tax
cuts is when when these tax cuts were passed originally
twenty seventeen, we saw poor people's wages rise four hundred
percent faster than higher income people. The first time in
modern history. You saw the income cap close, income gap
close in a proper way, meaning help poor people rise faster.

(14:18):
Don't attack people at the top, let them do their thing,
but let's help poor people rise faster. That trend will continue.
We saw the lowest unemployment rate in fifty years. You know,
everybody bragged about Biden's low unemployment rate. That was because
of the Trump tax cuts that were still in effect
during his presidency. We saw the lowest unemployment rate among
blacks and Hispanics. It's just one of the great stories.

(14:38):
And the reason that happens is because when you lower
the marginal rates, small business capital formation happens quicker. And
part of the piece in the New York Post. I
had tells my own story of this. I was able
to save a lot of money many years ago with
low marginal rates and start my first business and eventually
employee dozens and dozens of people. That's how capital formation
happens at the household. With people saving more money and

(15:01):
starting their first business with fifty or seventy five thousand
dollars in saving savings, two out of every three new
jobs in this country are created by those people. That's
why these tax cuts matter.

Speaker 2 (15:11):
Amen to that, John, great chatting with you. Thank you
for a few minutes.

Speaker 1 (15:14):
You're starting to the iceman, John Hill.

Speaker 7 (15:16):
Till ye, John, imane people to adopt that.

Speaker 2 (15:20):
That's right, all right, John, Thank you. John is the
CEO of the American Culture Project. Boy, we need to
just get going, folks. I think it will. It will
do so much for the economy. Just get it going.

Speaker 1 (15:34):
It is I mean, I just I just with all
the with his with the President's bold actions, with these
global partnerships and trade and tarifs and all of that,
you really have to know that your taxes aren't going
up at the same time, and they have no reason to.
We got the mandate. We have the majorities, albeit slim,
but you got to do it. I just can't even
imagine a scenario where you could argue otherwise.

Speaker 2 (15:56):
All right, Moore, coming up. It is the Rod and
Greg Show, The Wingman Wednesday edition, Talk Radio one O
five nine. Kayan rs, Well, let's move on to our
next interview. Of course, Greg and I have been talking forever,
it seems about election integrity. We have a lieutenant governor
in this state. She claims what Mike Lee is trying
to do with a Save Act. It's a very simple act.
It just says, if you want to vote in a

(16:18):
federal election, you have to prove you're an American citizen.
Oh the horror, What a novel. Oh no, it's going
to have a chilling effect. Did you know married women
won't be able to do this? Yeah? I heard that.
You know where she got this, Where Deetro Henderson got
this idea? Where Hillary Clinton? Really Hillary Clinton is out
there saying that if this Save Act is approved, guess what,

(16:39):
married women will not be able to vote.

Speaker 1 (16:42):
I'm pretty sure that the Hillary Clinton goes by the
name Clint, that's her married name. I think our lieutenant
governor goes by her married name. How are how are
they are they able to vote with such barriers with
such a chilling effect on voter participation having been married?

Speaker 2 (16:58):
Are you ready for a shocker?

Speaker 1 (17:00):
Yes?

Speaker 2 (17:01):
This day? On top of what I Josia, the state
of Arizona is now partnering with Homeland Security to basically
do what take a look at the state's voter rolls?
Shall we say? It's about time? This is a state
that has been interesting to watch over the last few
election cycles. Let's find out more about what's going on.
Joining us on our newsmaker line, Ward Clark. Ward is

(17:22):
a contributor at red State. Great to have Ward on
the show. Ward, tell us what's going on down in Arizona.

Speaker 8 (17:28):
Hey, Rod and Greg, it's great to be back. What
they're doing is they're partnering to look over all of
their voter roles. They've got around fifty thousand registered voters
who did not provide proof of the US citizenship and
they're going to go through and review those to make
sure these people that are voting in federal elections are

(17:48):
actually eligible to be doing so. And what a concept
that we're actually verifying that the people are voting are
eligible to vote.

Speaker 1 (17:56):
So we have a lieutenant governor rumored to be from
the Republican party that is saying that this proving citizenship,
being a legal resident the United States and you know,
living in their jurisdiction what you're voting will have a
chilling effect. It's problematic, is the word that she used,
and could keep people from actually being able to vote.

(18:18):
Do you imagine that the purging of these elections, of
these voting roles in Arizona and cleaning them up and
actually requiring that someone show or be give proof that
they are a citizens in the United States? Do you think
this is problematic and we'll have a chilling effect on
voting in Arizona.

Speaker 8 (18:34):
No, No, Greg And both of those statements problematic and
chilling effect. When I hear those, I disregard anything the
person says after that. Those those are some of the
key words that the left uses. And I'm not terribly
familiar with your lieutenant governor, although I'm sympathetic about the
as you mentioned, nominally Republican because of course we've got

(18:57):
Lisa Murkowski.

Speaker 3 (18:58):
So yeah, yeah, well.

Speaker 8 (19:01):
I understand that. But you know, the left and the
people who oppose these kinds of things. It's I was
thinking as you guys were discussing it before I came in.
It's interesting how little they think of their constituents. What
a low opinion they must have their intelligence, especially a
woman in particular, can't figure out how to change your

(19:23):
voter registration, can't figure out how to take in her
marriage certificate and say, look, my name has changed. How
hard can it be?

Speaker 2 (19:31):
It can't be that hard, Ward, I mean, how out
of date? Any idea were Arizona's voter rolls? Any idea?

Speaker 8 (19:40):
No, no, not not in anything specific. It had been
It had been years.

Speaker 1 (19:45):
So let me ask you this the problem that I'm
hearing that and a lot of this. Have you noticed
that some of this isn't a leftist agenda to get
illegal people to vote. Some of this comes down, at
least in the state of Utah, to some county clerks
that don't want to have more depths, more work, more transparency,
stronger chain of custody, because all of that amounts to

(20:05):
more work. And and so we get a lot of
pushback from county clerks Republicans that say, there's nothing to
see her. Folks, we do a great job. There's no
there's no fraud. Don't make our jobs harder. Do you
get any of that as you look at this issue?
Is does that is that? Does that become a reason
in other states?

Speaker 8 (20:24):
I'm sure it is it is here in Alaska. We've
seen some of it with and we don't have counties.
We have boroughs resisting the in any of these efforts.
Now are borough the Madinuskus is sit in a borough
recently voted to do away with the dominion voting machines
that the rest of the state uses our borough? No, Yeah,

(20:44):
we're we're counting. We're filling out our ballots and they're
counted by hand. Now, our borough is not like say,
even Salt Lake City. You probably have more people living
within a ten mile radius of your houses.

Speaker 2 (21:00):
And you taught that we do in our entire burrough
that's for sure. Ward is always great. Yeah, yeah, Ward
is always great chatting with you. Thanks for a few
minutes of your time today. Thank you guys, Thanks for
your work all right. Ward Clark he is a contributor
at Red State Livy Dump with Alaska, but he took
a look at that story in Arizona about efforts to

(21:20):
clear out the voter rolls. Yes, all right, more coming up.
It is the Rod and Greg Show on talk radio
one oh five nine k NRS. You know, I wonder, Greg,
how long CNN senior data reporter Harry Enton is going
to be at CNN. How long it's going to be
before they get rid of this guy?

Speaker 1 (21:37):
Yeah, I actually had that thought myself. He explains things
that those people at CNN don't want to hear, with
the kind of enthusiasm, with vim and vigor. That what
you thought, folks in this studio and is building my employer.
None of it's true. And let me show you why
you're all up in the night. That has to go
over back.

Speaker 2 (21:55):
Well, he's got a new poll out that was taken
this month. He went on the air today and shared it,
and basically it basically shoots down the narrative that CNN
and the legacy media have out there that a lot
of people are now regretting their decision that they voted
for Donald Trump back in the fall of twenty twenty four.
Got new numbers out saying eh, maybe not.

Speaker 1 (22:18):
That's right. Here's very let's to what he had to say.

Speaker 9 (22:21):
I mean, this is the big question, right, I hear
all these stories, all these articles, all the Trump voters,
they regret what they did back in twenty twenty four.

Speaker 10 (22:29):
I'm here to.

Speaker 9 (22:30):
Tell you, uh uh, very few of them regret what
they did back in twenty twenty four.

Speaker 2 (22:34):
What are we.

Speaker 9 (22:35):
Talking about Trump voters looking back at twenty twenty four.
We got a new poll out. The poll was conducted
this month. What percentage would change their vote to a
different candidate. We're talking just two percent, just two percent,
that's not even a wide spa on the road. And
then there's this additional one percent who say they would
rather not vote. We're talking overall under five percent might

(22:55):
or would have changed their vote Donald Trump voters back
in twenty twenty four. And then you ask, okay, the
same question to Kamala Harris voters, and it turns out
the numbers are rather similar. So if there was a repeat,
if folks got to be able to redo their vote
that they had back in twenty twenty four, would the
result be any different?

Speaker 2 (23:11):
I doubt it would be. If they went head to
head again, would the results be any different? His research said, No,
I mean, I love it. You know two percent of
the voters regret voting for Donald Trump. That is tiny.

Speaker 1 (23:27):
We call that in campaigns and elections decimal dust.

Speaker 2 (23:30):
That's what it's called. That's what it's called.

Speaker 1 (23:32):
That's not even real.

Speaker 2 (23:33):
So now, speaking of a survey, California voters, this is
an interesting story today are less keen on fighting Donald
Trump than the state's political elite. California voters are kind
of getting running out of gas of being a Trump
resistant state. They're tired of it. They're saying to their

(23:54):
political elites, hey, let's do Martin.

Speaker 8 (23:56):
Now.

Speaker 2 (23:56):
Remember Donald Trump made huge inroads California.

Speaker 1 (24:00):
And think about this in a state that, because he
had no chance of winning it, they didn't spend a
red scent advertised three so there was no real organized
campaign in state of California. And yet his numbers were
unprecedented in terms of growth, and he took whole swaps
of southern California that hadn't been read in a long,
long Yeah.

Speaker 2 (24:17):
Well, according to the survey, voters are also more divided
on issues like immigration and climate change. So they aren't
all a bunch of weird climate freakos out there in California.
About half the state is saying, we don't want to
put up with this anymore.

Speaker 1 (24:30):
No, no, how could they. I've been Look, we haven't
got into this, but I've been your roving reporter on
the mess the Tijuana rivers making to our southern beaches
in America and taking the Pacific Ocean, making it the
Pacific toilet. It has been unbelievably bad. And this is
what you're getting California if with the elective laws. But

(24:52):
we have some breaking news and won't do it right now.
Were at the end of our first hour. But boy,
I got some reporting to do on that. Really well,
I was on the ground. I got to see some things.
I got some observations make. But also I think are
I think presidents made some comments and also are EPA
secretary Zelden has as well.

Speaker 2 (25:10):
He's going after that man. He's going to get it fixed, thanks.

Speaker 1 (25:13):
To me, thanks thanks to Rotten Grey show.

Speaker 2 (25:15):
Well you have such a personal relationship.

Speaker 1 (25:17):
Well we broke, we broke the story, broke.

Speaker 2 (25:19):
The story and staying on top of it all right
now when we come back. You know what about this idea,
greg people who want to self deport they want to
leave the country, okay, and we incentivize them a little
bit with some money.

Speaker 1 (25:32):
I like it.

Speaker 2 (25:33):
The administration is talking about doing this if they self deport.
What do you think of that idea?

Speaker 1 (25:38):
I'm good with it really, yes. Wow, Look whatever cost
to incarce rate, maintain, hold your your court case, here's
less money to get out. Yep. We'll get more reaction.

Speaker 2 (25:53):
And a chance for you to win Lagoon tickets. We'll
explain how you do that coming out. Stay with us.
You brought this up late yesterday. We didn't get to
mention it on the air. Wink Martindale digestion. Yes, Wink
Martin is ninety one years old. It felt like yesterday,
Wink Martindale.

Speaker 1 (26:13):
I watched the one Tic Tac Dough.

Speaker 2 (26:15):
Yeah, Tac Dough. I remember that. Chuck Wallery Remember Chuck Wallery? Yes,
Love Connection, Yes, dead eighty three years old. Peter Marshall
who used to host Hollywood Squares. Yes, remember that show.
He's dead. He died at ninety eight. Bob Barker, Bob Barker,
He's gone died at ninety nine nine nine, Martindale.

Speaker 1 (26:37):
Which one was the one that was like no Whammies?
What was that show called anyway?

Speaker 2 (26:42):
The Bong Show?

Speaker 1 (26:43):
No, it wasn't a gong show. The show Berry, Yes,
Bog show, No different time, different area. That's your Austin
Day University of Texas when we talk about that on
the air Bong shows.

Speaker 2 (26:54):
But yeah, do you know an interesting thing about Wing Martindale.
I read this today. He got one of the first
day interviews with a young man named Elvis Presley.

Speaker 1 (27:03):
I thought you were going to say, Elvis.

Speaker 2 (27:05):
Interesting for Wayne Martin Dale and a radio time on
the map. I always thought it would be fun to
be a game show host.

Speaker 1 (27:11):
Well, yeah, I think you have the voice. I think
you have the presence to be one. You did You've
done TV in your career. You've done a lot of
things in your career, in your broadcast career. But I
think he and you got a good sense of humor.
And it's the play with the contest. Well, you had
done a good job work with you. Could you imagine
if you did family feud and you get to kiss
all the ladies? Oh, please remember how Richard Dawson would

(27:32):
do that. He would kiss the big big slobbery kissing.
He kissed the mom, the daughters that an He's given
them all just big smoochers. You remember that, man? You
could do that.

Speaker 2 (27:43):
No, I wouldn't. I wouldn't kiss him.

Speaker 11 (27:45):
He did.

Speaker 1 (27:46):
He seemed to make an art form out of it.

Speaker 2 (27:48):
Sure did, Sure did? All right. Coming up in the
next hour, we're going to talk about the Trump administration
and what they're trying to do to deport one million
people who are here illegally. There's a lot more than
one million. One million, right, he wants to do one
million people. Now. Barack Obama in one of his years

(28:10):
deported four hundred nine thousand. Donald Trump wants to double that. Now.
One idea, and I want to get your reaction to this,
and then we'll open up the phones to you on
this as well. One idea that the administration is kicking around. Now,
think about all the costs involved in all of this,
greg right, and what we're doing to try and you know,
get people back to their home countries and out of

(28:31):
the United States. It costs a lot of money to
do that. Okay. So one idea that has been kicked
around is if you legally step up, say I want
to go back to my home country, give me a
little bit of time. The administration is thinking about paying
people to do that ten thousand, twenty thousand dollars. Now

(28:51):
it sounds like a lot of money, right if you
had time's at by a million, which I don't think
we'll get to. But you brought up a point think
about all the costs we're spending now and what if
So I don't know, what are your thoughts on paying
these people to leave the country? So why are we
paying them?

Speaker 1 (29:08):
So the headline is and this is this is coming
from the Trump administration. This isn't just some think tank
saying how to do it. Trump says he wants to
give money and an airplane ticket, an airplane tickets to
immigrants who self deport. Now, we've seen a lot of
self deportion, the deportation happening, because when you get caught
by ice and you're send out, you had no chance
to plan, you had nothing.

Speaker 2 (29:27):
You could do. You're just gold on your can and
you may not go back to the country you came from.

Speaker 1 (29:30):
And certainly if you're caught and you didn't self deport,
then your chances of coming back legally are zero. So
there's already been and they've already spotted this earlier. I mean,
this was reported a while ago even by the New
York Times, that this self deportation is going on. What
Trump's saying is he wants to actually give a little
bit of a a little bit of a you know,
you know, sweeten the pot, a little bit, a little
thumb on the scale. He's saying, Look, I even get

(29:52):
you a ticket, a one way ticket, but a ticket
you can go, and we'll then throw some cash. Now
I'm looking for how much, but I you gotta I
think that it is money saved of the taxpayer. Then
to put them through it's a civil court process, which
means that they can't be detained in jails as you
would imagine. It has to be a certain type of facility.
The cost of detaining, and then these hearings that take

(30:15):
a long time. In the number of judges you have,
this is a very long drawn out process. What is
the cost of the taxpayer to go through that entire
process versus having an excess? Remember liberals do this to
us all time. The leftists say hey, we'll do a
gun buy back, and they get because people are poor,
they'll be like, hey, I guess I can give that
kun away to try and get their gun control going on.
What if we said we're going to give you a

(30:36):
little bit of a little run around money and send
you one way ticket back where you came. And by
the way, in addition to that, they're saying, look, when
we know who you are and you came clean and said, hey,
i'm here, I shouldn't be hum made crimes. You're not
even involved in this. But if you haven't community crimes,
but you come clean and say I'm here and I'm
not supposed to my visa either ran out or I

(30:56):
came across illegally. But the fact that you're making yourself known,
the fact that you're getting into the system, and they're
sending you out. Trump says he wants to do right
by those types of people and make sure that they
have a legal, clear process to come back. Not a
wink wink, not not yeah, we'll help you, and then
say get out of here, don't ever come back. No,
a real process to come back, so a legal one,

(31:18):
but one that's that's legit. So I think it works.

Speaker 2 (31:21):
You're here illegally, but you have committed no crime other
than maybe something using our government services like education and healthcare. Okay,
that may be all you do. You're willing to go
back to your home country, you'll self deport you basically
say you know you know, maybe the administration says, we'll
give you a month or two weeks or you know,

(31:41):
six weeks to get your affairs straight here, and then
we'll send you home and we'll give you a free ticket,
one way ticket, and we'll give you some money. How
much money should they give?

Speaker 1 (31:54):
I would say, if it's less, I don't have number.

Speaker 2 (31:57):
What do you think it would do it? But I mean,
if you're leaving, you're going to Central America or to
South America. Okay, you give.

Speaker 1 (32:03):
Them a couple of grand they'd be money ahead.

Speaker 2 (32:06):
Would that be enough?

Speaker 1 (32:07):
I don't know. All I know is that the price
point for me. If I were a public servant, I
would just want to know the costs. And you have
fiscal analysts that can tell you this stuff. What is
the cost of taxpayers to apprehend them and go through
the system and deport them. What's that cost? Yeah, and
then i'll have the whole process. Then I'll have a number,
and then I would take that number and I would

(32:29):
offer them less, you know, and at least a fifty
percent savings or more to the taxpayer to give them
cash in the hand on a one point one way
take it out of here with the idea that you
can you are eligible to enter this country legally through
our legal process if you do.

Speaker 2 (32:44):
This, Yeah, we invite you to come back if you
do it through the legal process. And wonder how would
the liberals fight that. They wouldn't even know what to do,
because if people were willing to do that, they can't
stop them.

Speaker 1 (32:55):
There. Wait, wait, we need see, because here's what I
think has happened. Those four years were not chaos. They
were planned. They've got thirteen million people in here that
they fully expect to have voting rights at one at
some time, and they want to do to the America
what they did to California, and that is have a
perpetual democrat control of this country forever. And they brought
them in, they went through all the heat, they got

(33:17):
it done, and now you're seeing the deportations happen. You're
seeing the self deportations happening. All that hard work is
going for not That's why I think they're taking untenable,
unpopular issues, like they're going to fall in the sword
for this one guy that's a you know, that's an
M thirteen terrorist, domestic terrorists. They're going to go fall
the sword for him. While they don't give a whit
about all the victims of these illegal criminals that came across.

(33:39):
It's because they need these thirteen million to stay here,
because they would go into these swing states where some
of those states are decided by thirty thousand votes and
win elections for president for the rest of time. So
that's what they're trying to protect. That's what you're trying
to defend. They created it, they don't want to lose it.

Speaker 2 (33:54):
So, as a tax payer, would you be willing to
give people who are in this country illegally? But say
I want to go back home on a self deport
are you willing to give him a financial incentive to leave?
Eight eight eight five seven eight zero one zero triple
eight five seven o eight zero one zero your calls
and comments coming up on the Rotten Gregg Show. Van Holland,
is that his name? The Senator from Maryland. Yes, went

(34:15):
down to Elle Salvador today, requested a meeting with him.
He never got a call back. It was a total disaster,
and on the way down we found out something new
about this. Uh marilynd Man.

Speaker 1 (34:26):
Yeah, So while the good senator who's probably I'm just
gonna guess hasn't gone to any other country. Four and
on behalf of any of his constituents who may have
been kidnapped or held detained unlawfully, which would have been legit.
In flight, he found out that oh this Maryland man,
what he has? What Ringo Garcia, he has two domestic
violence uh in charge. His wife has asked to be

(34:48):
protected that he can't come up twice. You talk about
a flight that needs to be turned around, Boberg the judge,
his flight need to be turned around right there before
they even hit ground in El Salvador. Because that's a
good that's a plan gone awry. It was a bad
plan to start with. Now you're not only there for
an MS thirteen gang member, not only a known terrorist
and someone that's a threat to our country, an illegal alien,

(35:09):
but now he's a wife beating good twice.

Speaker 2 (35:13):
Two times, and we're going to fight to bring him
back to the country.

Speaker 1 (35:15):
Good jam. That's where you're going to spend your political
capital art move this, Senators, fighting for a good fight
for MS thirteen illegal aliens who beat their wives. He's
there for them.

Speaker 2 (35:24):
Defend them all you want, all right, what we're asking
you to weigh in with us. We had a discussion
before the break about the Trump administration looking at the
possibility of people who are in this country illegally who
decide they want to self deport go back to their
home countries, and as they and they would need to
have a clean record, give them a little financial incentive

(35:46):
to do so. Do you like that idea? Eighty eight
eight five seven eight zero one zero on your cell phone,
nal pound two to fifteen, say hey, Rod, to the
phones we go. We begin in Brigham City with klest
and night Kless. How are you welcome to the Rod
and Gregg Show.

Speaker 3 (36:01):
Hey, thanks for kicking my call road. I appreciate it. Hey,
I've got the answer right here to all of this.
All right, we've got these people. Some of these people
have been in the United States for fifteen twenty years.
They have been established here. Okay, they don't want to
go back to their home countries. All we gotta do

(36:22):
is say, hey, come forward. You're gonna have to pay
a fine. Okay, I don't know what that would be.
Let you say it was five thousand dollars. We have
twenty million people here illegal waiting to be an American.
Do the math.

Speaker 1 (36:42):
That's that's an angle I got me, I do, and Chris,
I actually like that. For the people who've been here
twenty years plus, there's definitely those I am and I
think there ought to be a way, not that for
instance citizenship, but certainly the pathway that anyone else would
have if they if they did pay that fine, they've
been here that long. What about the ones that Biden
has left let in over the last four years. That's

(37:04):
the that's the group that I want.

Speaker 3 (37:06):
What I'm what I'm what I'm saying is you can
now those people right there, let me tell you a lot.
They are probably good people. But the people that's been
here for years, they do not want to go back home.

Speaker 2 (37:25):
That's true. That's true.

Speaker 1 (37:26):
That's true.

Speaker 2 (37:27):
That's true. Is that? But is that in a way
paid amnesty.

Speaker 1 (37:32):
Look, if you've been there that long, it does get
I think it's a little more problem, more difficult if
you had kids too, and then you know they don't
speak the language. You go back. But I'm my eyes
are looking at these two, these millions, these thirteen there's
like thirteen million that came in illegally, uh in the
last four years and a half. Yeah, ten and a
half million. I want them gone. Yeah, a sap like yesterday.

Speaker 2 (37:55):
Let's go to Melanie and River Mapleton tonight. Melanie, how
are you welcome to the Rotten Gregg Show. What are
your thoughts on this?

Speaker 12 (38:02):
Thank you for taking my call. I kind of got
a little bit of a different position on this one.
I'm all for making sure they have safe passage to
get back to their origin, you know, their country of origin.
But I'm not sure about the monetary reward. I'm concerned
about it simply because our own US citizens that are
detained and are released from institutions, jails, prisons, you know,

(38:25):
they're not given the financial reward for bad behavior. And
I'm just concerned that specifically that group over the last
four years, you know what would prevent another wave of
people coming into our country to be paid to self
deport again.

Speaker 1 (38:37):
Yeah, you know, you bring up a really good point.
I would just say this, because you can't have a
system like that if you were going to give them
a little money to get out, so you have to
deal with them any further and you can get done expeditiously,
you'd have to have a border that they can't do that,
because it would be imagine if you could get paid
to go back, you would be four. Yeah, you have
to actually and I think that if you had one

(38:58):
hundred and thirty seven thousand border apprehensions in March of
twenty four and that one hundred and thirty seven thousands
now seven thousand, we are strengthening that border where we
could prevent that kind of way from coming in. As
what is my hope it?

Speaker 2 (39:10):
Yeah, one good point. All right, more of your calls
coming up eight eight eight five seven o eight zero
one zero, triple eight five seven o eight zero one
zero or on your cell phone. All you do is
have to say, hey, Rod, now'll put you into the show.
All right, we're taking your calls.

Speaker 3 (39:23):
Uh.

Speaker 2 (39:23):
The president and his administration, they're trying to deport you
know what, about a million people if they can. One
idea being considered is offer people who've been here illegally
who want to go back to their home countries a
financial incentive to do so. And we're asking you if
you like that idea.

Speaker 1 (39:40):
So let's go to our callers. Let's go to our listeners.
Andrew and Sandy, thank you for holding and welcome to
the Rodd and Greg Show. What say you about this
idea of self deportation with a little bit of an
incentive to get on out.

Speaker 13 (39:55):
Hey, guys, thanks for taking my call. I agree with
some of the previous callers. I think some form of
a fine for anyone illegal sounds amazing and I think
that should happen yearly as well as I think giving
them an incentive to leave is only a magnet for
more people to come. So personally, I would take away

(40:17):
any form of governmental assistance to any illegal alien in
the country. So they can't send their kids the public school,
they can't utilize any government funded hospitals, they can't have
access to Social Security, Medicare help, you know, Medicaid, whatever
it might be. And when you have those restrictions in place,
I don't think it makes it easy for anyone to

(40:38):
live here, which would make them want to leave.

Speaker 1 (40:41):
It makes sense. I just the challenge is some of
them have already been issued SoC security cars, they have
their kids in those schools. You get the judges that
get involved, they do the law fair. But I tell
you this Andrew's point and the points have been made
by other callers. You know, Trump has reduced a number
of illegal border crossings by ninet nine. You could never
do this with the president would who would do anything

(41:03):
less than ninety nine or more percent? Because you will
create a magnet if you did that program without having
an absolutely strict border protected to not let them come through.
But if you did have that, you do think of
all the things he mentioned, the schools, the social services,
then all the courts cases and the dates and the
and the retention. There may be a little uh, there

(41:23):
may be. I think I think guaranteed you would have
less you have more people to self deporting, and the
Democrats could do nothing about it if you gave him
some sort of incentive. But I hear what our colors
are saying.

Speaker 2 (41:34):
He's not there yet, but I think he's very close. Greg.
They're shutting that border completely down, and that's what the
American people and we need it. Yep. Oh, let's go
to Tremont. Stacey has a thought on this tonight. Stacy,
how are you welcome to the Rod and Gregg Show.

Speaker 8 (41:47):
Hey, gentlemen, I'm doing great. Thanks for taking my call.

Speaker 2 (41:50):
You're welcome.

Speaker 10 (41:50):
I think your last caller was about spot on about
you got to control the border. I think you do
restrict or limit a to current illegal folks here of
the States. But also I think there's a database that
needs to be stood up with you know, positive identification
of an individual who is accepting this offer to go
back to their home country. Right, So, whether it be

(42:11):
fingerprints or DNA, you start that database, and then if
there's a return of that individual illegally back to the
United States, then there's strict federal fines or you know,
further sanctions against that individual if they violated to come
in again illegally. Now that doesn't stop them from doing

(42:32):
the appropriate paperwork to come legally again in the future date,
but there has to be you know, the border control
take away the incentives, and then establish a positive database
who people who are accepting these offers to control that,
and then stiff finds their penalties if they return illegally.

Speaker 1 (42:48):
You're here, and I think what Stacey's pointing out is
and he's exactly right. I think the only way you'd
get into that program is if you gave exhaustive information
about yourself because one of the care is will actually
accept your application to legally enter this country in a
future date. So you got to get all that in
and know who you are and fingerprint everything else, if

(43:09):
you'd like the opportunity to legally back in, apply and
try to come back in. So I think that that
kind of data and that kind of scrutiny would be
necessary for programming, and.

Speaker 2 (43:21):
That could possibly speed up the process of coming back
into the country. If they already have the information on you,
that could possibly speed up the process if you want
to return to the United States in a legal manner.

Speaker 1 (43:31):
Yeah, and folks, I'm not spitballing here. I'm just I'm
the Trump administration and President Trump is seriously considering it.
I mean, the AP's are reporting that he's looking at
the one way tickets and a little bit of cash
to get you on.

Speaker 2 (43:41):
Your west send it.

Speaker 1 (43:42):
Yeah, Okay, let's go to Travis in Spanish Fork Travis,
thank you for holding. Welcome to the Rodding Grigg Show.

Speaker 14 (43:50):
Hi, guys, thanks for taking my call. I actually had
an idea that I felt would give a little bit
of compassion, but I sent it to Mike Lee. Haven't
heard back, but maybe you guys can touch space with him.
But the idea was, what if, because there's such a
lineup of people trying to get here legally, what if
they went back and maybe our governorent buys a place

(44:13):
for them to live, maybe they can provide some jobs
for them in processing legal applications, and so.

Speaker 1 (44:24):
Just an idea of service.

Speaker 14 (44:26):
Any of them don't have any options at home.

Speaker 2 (44:30):
At home behind are you saying we would build or
buy a home for them in their homeland and then
allow them to come back in And so I want
to make sure I'm following you on this, Travis, Is
that your idea? No?

Speaker 14 (44:41):
No, no, Maybe maybe there's some apartment complex or something
that we can own, Okay, and then they go back.
They're living there while they're working for us, they're paying
rent something like that, but they're helping process legal applications
coming into our country to help speed that problem SSS
up and give them that ability for some livelihood when

(45:06):
they get back to their country.

Speaker 2 (45:07):
Okay, Okay, work something like that.

Speaker 1 (45:12):
Okay, let's go to you have time. Casey from West Valley, Casey,
thank you for holding. Welcome to the Rod and Greg
show what say you?

Speaker 15 (45:21):
I think this is a bad idea only because you
look at everything that DOGE is already exposed the government's
ability to throw money at a problem and not fix it.

Speaker 8 (45:32):
Is that in a thousand.

Speaker 15 (45:33):
So all I see is, Okay, how much money? How
long are we going to be giving them this money?
Are we going to keep paying them to stay out
of the country. I would need a lot more information.
But the government spending money on a problem, I don't think.

Speaker 2 (45:46):
It's ever worked about that powerful. It makes a very
powerful I mean, if you think about it, namely one
government program that has really.

Speaker 1 (45:57):
Worked, there's not. I mean, I I don't know. There
must there must be, but I wouldn't know what it is.
But I think I think what Case brings up is
true that batting average here is not very very good.
Not a lot of confidence there.

Speaker 2 (46:10):
All right, more to come on the Rod and Greg Show,
and more your calls on Talk Radio one oh five
nine knrs. You deserve a great from traffic.

Speaker 1 (46:17):
It's time to treat yourself to summer road.

Speaker 2 (46:19):
By the way. Coming up in fifteen minutes and at Garrettelli,
she's a immigration report of the Washington Examiner. We'll talk
more about the president's goal of one million deportations. She
has done tremendous work down on the border, and we'll
talk to her about that. That's coming up in just
about fifteen minutes. Here on the Rotten Greg Show.

Speaker 1 (46:37):
So let's let's keep going with the calls. We've got
great listeners, great callers. Let's go to Carol in Lindon. Carol,
thank you for holding. Welcome to the Rotting Greg Show.

Speaker 16 (46:46):
Thank you.

Speaker 1 (46:47):
What's say you about this idea?

Speaker 16 (46:50):
I think that they should not reward them with money
to get them to leave the country when they should
be here to begin with. We already reward them for
their bad behavior. They're law breaking by using our social
services for them, and then that takes it away from
as Americans. And they should just hire you that money

(47:11):
to hire more ice sagments and just deport them, just.

Speaker 2 (47:15):
Get rid of them without any money or anything, just
say goodbye.

Speaker 16 (47:19):
Yeah, why should we Why should that be our responsibility
to give them money to go back to their own country.

Speaker 2 (47:26):
Look, these are really good people, you know. I agree
with Carol. I'm not a big fan.

Speaker 1 (47:31):
Of Guess is what I think the president's looking at.
He's got the first order of business or the criminals,
of which there are many. There are hundreds of thousands,
if not millions, that are the worst of the worst,
the you know, trendy or Arragua or the m thirteen dangerous,
dangerous people they've got to get they've got to get
out of here. That's the one hundred and sixty you
see getting flown. And you don't have to have any
of this with that. There's still much, much, much more

(47:52):
work to do there. You have self deportation happening now,
which is free to us all, and it's happening on
its own. But what I I think the president's looking
at is if we had ten million people in this
country within the last four years and the most you've
ever deported in a single year is four hundred thousand,
you're almost conceding that there is a large in the
millions population you're never going to get out, at least

(48:14):
while Trump's on the clock. And what Trump I think
is looking at is saying, is there a way to
get them to get out of here? Because we're not
going to get to them. We're going to get to
the most dangerous. We're going to get to the ones
that have great We've got the ones they've got that
pretend you know, they said the word asylum and they
have a court hearing five years from now. They're going
to get to them. But what about all these other ones?

(48:36):
I think that he's just trying to say, if I
don't do anything guaranteed, we will leave people that enter
this country illegally here, they are going to stay. Can
we do something to get more out than less? And
I think that's kind of what he's trying to weigh,
not not do this instead of just just to try
and tackle the Biden numbers alone of ten million.

Speaker 2 (48:58):
You know, they're thinking about doing things. Greg. This is
what I love about Donald Trump. You know, he'll take
on everybody in anything. This is an issue very important
to him. This is one I don't understand about the Democrats.
There's no doubt that Donald Trump is winning over Americans
when it comes to immigration. Yep, the verdict is still

(49:19):
out on tariffs. A lot of you know, you know
you agree, But when you think the Democrats would attack
the tariff issue instead of the immigration issue because Donald
Trump is clearly winning that issue, Yet they're on this,
you know this abrego Garcia thing. Why even go after that?
Why not focus on tariff? This is where I think, Greg,

(49:40):
the Democratic Party has just lost. They don't know what
direction to go, and they really are the laws.

Speaker 1 (49:45):
To your point, seventy four percent of Americans, and that's
a Republican Democrat independence. Collectively, seventy four percent support the
deporting immigrants who are here illegally and so who's committed crime.
So they're picking the wrong issue.

Speaker 2 (49:58):
Are they sure? Are all right? Or the Rotting Greg
Show coming up on this wing Man Wednesday?

Speaker 3 (50:04):
Wait?

Speaker 2 (50:04):
What are you doing over there?

Speaker 1 (50:05):
I'm just I'm also marveling at our our X page
at Rotten Greg Show today. Today today, while we've been
on the program, we hit the fifteen one point five k.
I mean, you know, we got some swat.

Speaker 3 (50:19):
You know.

Speaker 1 (50:20):
By the way, I know we're not allowed to say.
Are you gotta give me that? I'm new to this business,
But when do we get to say we're number one
greatest radio show ever ever? Watch that front because I'm
looking Okay, I'm not gonna brag.

Speaker 2 (50:33):
I'm just gonna stay.

Speaker 1 (50:33):
I'm just gonna drop truth bombs.

Speaker 2 (50:36):
Bomb because it can change it a minute.

Speaker 11 (50:38):
You know.

Speaker 1 (50:40):
See, you just all you're doing is being You're just
being superstitious. Our good listeners need to know they are
They've made us, They're the king king of the hill. Yeah,
all right, do I have to kill you? What if
I was just to kick the eleven daddy. Yeah, you
guys are just too humble. Yeah, I think we should know.

Speaker 2 (51:01):
Before we talked more about deportation. Did you see this
goofy idea? Have you ever seen the movie Home Alone two?

Speaker 1 (51:07):
Yes?

Speaker 2 (51:08):
Okay? Do you see the producer of that? The director
of Home Alone two, his name is Christopher Columbus. Interesting,
wants to cut out the seven seconds of Donald Trump
in that movie.

Speaker 1 (51:17):
I know, he's such a deranged of weird now who cares?
Everybody knows that was before he became president and the
fact everybody used to like him everyone. He was on
every show. Yeah, you know, I would like the shows
that had Donald Trump on it erased from the memory
of the American people. What a lunatic?

Speaker 2 (51:35):
Yeah, just nuts. Typical democrat out there, all right. The
White House we talked about this last hour, but we
want to dig into what exactly is taking place. The
White House is eyeing a lofty goal of one million deportations.
Joining us on our Newsmaker line right now is Ana Garrettelly,
an immigration reporter at the Washington Examiner. She's been looking
into this. Anna, Thanks for joining us. What are they

(51:58):
going to have to do to pull this off. Annah.

Speaker 17 (52:00):
Yeah, well, the White House is really getting ready to
ramp up deportations, and so the way they're going about
this is, you know, without the cooperation of sanctuary cities,
using you know, the military and other entities to get
around that that they are preparing spaces to detain people.

(52:21):
And I think the Trump administration is in talks with
thirty countries to try to get them to see if
they're willing to take back immigrants who are not originally
from those countries. They're also talking with the Department of Justice,
who has already gone through the immigration court system. There's
millions of cases pending. They're trying to see who's already

(52:44):
had a deportation order, a judge has already said this
person should be removed, and can we get that person
out of the country, And there's one point four million
of those cases right now, and so they're just in
a funding freeze right now. But as soon as they
get that money from Hungress, it could really be a
historic blitz.

Speaker 1 (53:03):
You know, a lot of this when you have public
policy like this, and it's a real herculean effort. Momentum
is everything. Is there anything about the way that judges
are putting firewalls or just speed bumps in front of this.
And you're seeing some of these rulings come out where
you have half a million people that Biden let in
that the Trump administration wanted to deport, and the judge says,
you have to consider each of those half a million

(53:24):
cases one by one. You have all these other issues
that judges are throwing in the way. Does that have
a chilling effect on self deportation? Does that have a
chilling effect on the efforts that have happened from up
you know, at the beginning of Trump's administration till now.
Is this going to make it harder for him to
accomplish what he's setting out to do?

Speaker 17 (53:43):
Yeah, you know, I think you have a really good point.
I think I think it certainly slows things down. And
the reason we've seen a lot of talk about deportations
recently is because Trump invoked the Alien Enemies Act. And
what that means is you don't have to go through
the normal court process. The government considers you a terrorist
and enemy of the state, and they don't need to

(54:04):
put you for a judge. They can just remove you.
And so it's a very unusual process that's being used
for the first time, and I don't know, maybe centuries
at this point since it's that old. But with normal
court cases, you're right, people will wait years to go
before a judge. They may be released from the border
and permitted legally to be in the country until their

(54:26):
court date. And that's what really has been trouble for
the Trump administration. They can't get at that massive I
think it's about six or seven million people in the
court system. They have to wait for those court dates,
and they compass fire judges, so they only have five
or six hundred immigration judges in the country. Yeah, you

(54:46):
can do the math, you guys, and you know how
it's the math is not on the administration side.

Speaker 2 (54:52):
Barack Obama, I think you report in your story Anna
deported about four hundred and nine thousand people. How did
he do it? It was his approach different from what
Trump is trying to do or one and the same.

Speaker 17 (55:05):
You know, it was a little different than Here's why.
So under Trump right now, we've seen border crossings and
people arrested at the Southwest border drop to historic lows,
the lowest since the nineteen sixties. We saw about eight
thousand people arrested at the southern border last month compared
to one hundred, one hundred and fifty two hundred two
hundred fifty thousand a month under Biden. So the issue

(55:28):
is when we talk about deportations and removals, those two
terms are interchangeable. We're talking about people who were removed
from within the interior of the United States as well
as people who came over the border and then I
took them from said Okay, we're going to repatriate you
to Saint Guatemala or Honduras. That counts as a deportation too,

(55:51):
even though that person was never released. So the issue
that Trump administration is having is deportations. There's no one
at the border to deport. Even if you removed all
eight thousand who came last month, that's really a drop
in the bucket compared to how many thousands more most administrations,
including the Obama administration, was removing just at the border

(56:13):
every month. So it's kind of a double edged sword.
It's fewer people to help those numbers overall get up,
but at the same time, it helps ICE really focus
on the interior of the country and be able to
go in and make arrest and then carry out those
removals when a judge does approve them.

Speaker 2 (56:28):
We're talking right now with Anna Garatelli, immigration reporter with
the Washington Examiner.

Speaker 1 (56:33):
And here's a little wrinkle that I kind of like
we talk about a stick and a carrot. It looks
like there's some carrots that might become available to those
that are here illegally. Trump is talking about cash and
even airflight, air flights, airplane flights to homes of origin,
countries of origin, if people are willing to self deport
I've never heard of the cash incentive before. But if

(56:55):
there is a cash as well as a one trip,
you know, one one way ticket to your desired destination,
do you think self deportation, given kind of how things
are going right now, do you think that becomes more successful?
I hear, I hear that it's happening a bit right now,
but I will Will that help solve this issue, the
self deportation and incentives that the Trump administration is offering, Yeah.

Speaker 17 (57:20):
I don't. I don't think a cash incentive would hurt.
Certainly it can't hurt. And you know, when we had
the border crisis under Biden in full steam, we had
cities like New York City, even our Democrat run city
that was giving tickets and money to migrants to say,
hey go to Canada or hey go to Nebraska, go
to these random places, and people were like, all right,

(57:42):
people are willing to try as long as they could
get in there legally and be accepted. And so you know,
with one of the ways that the administration is trying
to prompt people to self deport is by going on
this app called CDP home. You register with the government
and then you tell them when you're going to leave.
And to date they've had roughly five thousand people do that,

(58:06):
which is just a drop in the bucket compared to
roughly eleven million people in the country illegally. But I
think in the coming weeks and the coming months, really
going into summer, and you can mark my words here, okay,
I think we're really going to see deportations take off.
Like it's been a fast paced eighty something days since
President Trump took office, but it's really going to surge.

(58:29):
And I think the only upside to self deporting is well,
I guess there's a number of upsides. You're not being
held in iceed attention, you're not being deported to a
place where you can control where you're going. So that's
a big incentive, and you control when you leave, and
you have your affairs in order in the United States
before you leave. And I think, you know, more people

(58:51):
see people being removed by ice, arrested, just you know,
with no say, and when that happens, it might prompt
people to consider, you know, if if I'm next, I
want to be in control of what happens to me
and not just be you know, what the government say.

Speaker 2 (59:07):
Anna Garyttelly, Thank you. Anna. She's an immigration reporter at
the Washington Examiner, talking about the Trump goal of one
million deportations. I think he can do it, and I
think we should. Greg it's just my you know, he's
determined to do something here and he's moving forward with it.

Speaker 1 (59:23):
If we don't get rid, if we don't deport the
people that Joe Biden allowed in, they are going to
vote one day. And when you look at how narrow
some of these swing states were, and we're talking less
than one hundred thousand votes, So ten million people can
make a difference. If we don't get them out, then
then they they do have the ability to win presidential
elections forever. Demographically, they do all right.

Speaker 2 (59:45):
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I'll take it now, you can't. You know what we had.
We had a caller that didn't like some of my
the way I answer phone, and then somehow that amounted
to if I ask it that way again, I got
to pay one hundred dollars to some charity. I don't
know if I agreed to that, but I would take
that thousand you're talking about to create a fund in
case I answer a phone call and say the same

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so I didn't mean to? Yeah, I thought it was
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It just kind of happens, but.

Speaker 2 (01:00:26):
Just happens.

Speaker 1 (01:00:27):
You know, I don't have there's no storial life.

Speaker 2 (01:00:30):
We're in our what July our ninth tenth month.

Speaker 1 (01:00:34):
I know, and we've been we've been. I've been at
least co hosting once a week with you for a while.
But yeah, it's there's I'm as interested as anyone else.
And what's going to happen next. There's no script to
my life, not just the show. The life has no script.
It's just by Braille.

Speaker 2 (01:00:48):
I just do whatever you think would ever come on
the show and I could.

Speaker 1 (01:00:52):
Just no, No, we don't want that.

Speaker 2 (01:00:55):
You wouldn't do that.

Speaker 1 (01:00:55):
Well, even if she did, I think I throw my
body in front of such a scenario. I don't. I
don't want. Oh. I know things about you.

Speaker 2 (01:01:03):
I know things about you now that I cannot share.

Speaker 1 (01:01:06):
You know this, it's called small talk.

Speaker 3 (01:01:08):
I don't know.

Speaker 1 (01:01:08):
Friends do this. I don't know why you got to
bring all that up while we're on the air.

Speaker 2 (01:01:12):
Because I have a radio show and I think it's interesting.

Speaker 1 (01:01:14):
Well, yeah, anyway, let's keep.

Speaker 2 (01:01:18):
Going show, We keep going, right, Uh? I know, is
it David Hogue or David Hogg?

Speaker 1 (01:01:24):
I'll just say what do we like his take or
hate it?

Speaker 3 (01:01:27):
No?

Speaker 2 (01:01:27):
We hate it. He was the kid who survived the Parkland,
Florida shooting years ago and turned it into a crusade
against guns and has.

Speaker 1 (01:01:35):
Moved up in the RG.

Speaker 2 (01:01:36):
Is it Hog, I'm gonna call him, Okay, David Hogg whatever, whatever? Right, Well,
he's a young political activist. As a matter of fact,
he is now vice chair of the Democratic Party. Really
vice chair Okay, very liberal guy. Right. Well, he's now
in an undertake. He has a new undertaking, or he's

(01:01:57):
undertaking a new project. You know what it is? What
kick the old members of the Democratic Party out?

Speaker 1 (01:02:03):
Hey, James Carvill raging cage. You're listening, he's talking to you. Yeah, yeah,
I hope he successful because I think James Carvill figured
out this pronoun thing is killing their party. This kid,
if he wants to keep it, then he's uh, then
he's just going to keep digging on that hole they're in.

Speaker 2 (01:02:18):
Well, why don't you listen to what Carvil said the
other day about the Democratic Party and what they should do.
So maybe we need to have a skills them.

Speaker 11 (01:02:24):
Maybe you use you got plenty different Justice Party to
work in, Families Party, the Socialist Party. The only thing
I'd ask is just don't used the word Democratic in
any title that you have, because most Democrats that I
know are running for office don't want you your name,

(01:02:46):
don't want you to be part of the deal.

Speaker 2 (01:02:49):
Now see, and Hog is out there now saying that
he's launching an effort leading an effort to unseat the
party's older lawmakers and primaries. So my question is, then,
why all these people show up for Bernie Sanders.

Speaker 1 (01:03:02):
They're not old people? Yeah, they are the people showing
up for Bernie someone.

Speaker 2 (01:03:09):
No, no, no, no, no. See this is where you're wrong.
See you you you have taken a sip of the
Democratic kool aid.

Speaker 1 (01:03:16):
Huh.

Speaker 2 (01:03:16):
Because somebody went to his his rally up in Napa,
Idaho near the other night, right, most of the people
there were baby boomers.

Speaker 1 (01:03:27):
You're kidding.

Speaker 2 (01:03:27):
Baby boomers is what she found. She could look over
the crowd and she you know, there were a few
young people like me, I'm a boomer.

Speaker 1 (01:03:36):
What's wrong with boomers? But you just built this country.
What you just said that they all showed up at
the Bernie Sanders. I didn't show up at the Bernie people,
but a lot. Yeah, there are some people who, you know,
there's they still think they're living in the sixties, trying
to make love about war. They used to be. I
thought the boomers got out of that after after, you know,
after Woodstock, they started to chill out. Look, the boomers

(01:03:58):
were like, I don't know, I know, I don't know.
My mother was a.

Speaker 2 (01:04:04):
Yeah, she was.

Speaker 1 (01:04:05):
She was an artist.

Speaker 2 (01:04:05):
So she I'm kind of near as well. I'm writing
about the middle of the boomer generation.

Speaker 1 (01:04:13):
Yeah, my, you know my mother, you know, she wasn't
political at all. Actually always supported whatever president was office.
In terms of re election, she voted for Carter's but
she voted for Ford, she voted for she voted for Ford,
and then she voted for Carter, and then she voted
for Reagan after they won. So she voted for each
one of them in their re elections, but not not
the first not the first time. So, but my mother

(01:04:35):
is very religious or spiritual, and then she turned religious
when missionaries found her. But I knew growing up that
if the Harry Kristnans that got to my mom first,
I might be I might have been raised Harry Krishna. Okay,
because she was kind of gullible on that front. I'm
just saying, okay, very open man. I know my mother

(01:04:55):
would have been you know, people, may she rest in peace.
I love my mother. But she she was an artist
and she'd have been selling those those flowers at the
airport in bulk Man. She would have so, you know,
growing up and I'm like, okay, the missionary knocking on
the door, man it could have just have been about
it anymore. That's what I was thinking then. I was
a little cynical as a teenager. I'm more I'm older now,

(01:05:16):
I would look. I'm very grateful that the right people
came at the right time. And here I find myself
from Pittsburgh. I'm hearing Utah go figure. I bet you
are all right Moore coming up. It is the Rod
and Greg Show on Utah's talk radio one O five
nine k NRS. You love the fact that it's gonna
get colder.

Speaker 2 (01:05:34):
No, I do not. I'm like you. I wanted to
want I'd like to go golfing with you.

Speaker 1 (01:05:38):
We've been spot that it's gonna snow. You just talk
about it and talk about it's you know.

Speaker 2 (01:05:43):
I'm warning people now.

Speaker 1 (01:05:46):
I hate it. I want global warming so bad. If
I have to just idle my car for the entire
length of this program, I will do it. Whatever I do, Yes,
I will expand my carbon footprint. However, I need to
stop this from happening. I want warmer weather. Gee.

Speaker 2 (01:06:01):
Well, speaking of the environment, uh, you know, uh marlow Oaks,
Who's I really like? Heats Art State Treasure Treasury Marlowe
is just just a good guy. He is, and he
has been fighting this ESG thing for a number of
years now and has been very successful and exposing what
this thing is all about and how some financial organizations

(01:06:23):
are using this to force their agenda on small business
owners and farmers.

Speaker 1 (01:06:28):
Not their business agenda. There's somehow social social social agenda
what they think politically and by public way of public
policy ought to happen. And they're going to compel the
behavior of everyone to their worldview via their banks and
their insurance companies and and uh, you know credit everything.
It's it's it's pretty I just love businesses to do business,

(01:06:49):
wouldn't that be?

Speaker 2 (01:06:50):
That's that's that's all they need to do.

Speaker 14 (01:06:52):
Well.

Speaker 2 (01:06:52):
Arkansas is taking a step to protect farmers from ESG.
Joining us on our newsmaker line now is Jack McFerrin.
He is a research fellow at the Heartland Institute. Jack,
thanks for joining us tonight. What exactly is Arkansas doing?

Speaker 3 (01:07:05):
Yeah, that's right.

Speaker 4 (01:07:06):
So our Arkansas has passed what I would say is
the strongest anti ESG legislation to date in the twenty
twenty five sessions. There are other laws that have been
passed in other states, in other years that are stronger,
such as Florida, but so far this.

Speaker 2 (01:07:24):
Year, Arkansas's is the strongest.

Speaker 4 (01:07:26):
They passed it in late March, and essentially what the
bill does, what the law now does is or things.
And the bill sponsor Randy Torres, explained it in a
speech on the House floor very simply.

Speaker 2 (01:07:41):
It prevents discrimination against farmers.

Speaker 4 (01:07:44):
It limits environmental, social and governance policies, It creates a
public list of financial institutions that discriminate, and it allows
farmers to report discrimination whenever they feel such discrimination has
occurred to the appropriate authorities and so that. There have
been a few other states that have passed anti ESG

(01:08:05):
legislation so far this year, but they're not as strong
as Arkansas is. Because Arkansas mandates that that if discrimination
is reported and if financial institutions are put onto a list,
that the state treasurer then has to divest holdings of
the states from those financial institutions.

Speaker 8 (01:08:27):
And so do all state and local government authorities.

Speaker 1 (01:08:31):
You know, this whole environmental, social and governance systems, of
which are our lenders, our banks, our insurance companies now
have social agendas is a complete nightmare to me. And
it's been and It's been talked about a lot in
the state of Utah. What I find interesting is I've
always heard it revolve around energy, around fossil fuels, firearms, ammunition,

(01:08:52):
things like that. I really like this bill because if
I think a little bit longer, we have to protect farmers.
We're looking around the world and seeing that farming and
agri cultures being halted, people are being stimied. Just how
does this build specifically, I mean, are they getting in
front of an issue that would impact agriculture in Arkansas
or are they already feeling the effects of ESG in Arkansas.

Speaker 4 (01:09:15):
Yeah, I would say it's more getting in front of it.
It's certainly already permeating in the United States. The war
on agriculture has been happening all around the world. I mean,
some of the most salient examples would be Sri Lanka
and the Netherlands and even Canada. But that certainly farmers
are feeling the pressure in the United States because many

(01:09:38):
of the metrics within these ESG frameworks are targeted specifically
at farmers. So, I mean, in addition to the more
general reduction of greenhouse gas emissions, they also these metrics
tried to get land use down. They tried to force
people to reduce their water consumption and their chemical fertilizer use.

Speaker 1 (01:10:01):
And you know, farmers routinely.

Speaker 4 (01:10:03):
Rely on fertilizers, pesticides, large quantities of water to grow crops,
and they also need a significant amount of land, and
they inevitably emit carbon dioxide through their standard operations. But
what ESG criteria do is they penalize these practices by
restricting farmers' access to credit, capital, insurance, or even simply

(01:10:25):
basic financial services like having a checking account. And we've
we've already seen that that many people around the United States,
including President Donald Trump, have had, you know, have been
the victims of this this ESG focused discrimination. And so
this bill and to kind of lead from what you
said earlier about ESG typically being more focused on fossil

(01:10:49):
fuels and firearms and ammunition. So what this bill did
is it actually added on to a strong bill that
Arkansas passed a couple of years ago that protects fossil
fuel companies and firearm and ammunition manufacturers from ESG. What
this bill does is it adds agricultural producers to that mix.

Speaker 2 (01:11:09):
We're talking right now with Jack mcphern he's with a
Heartland Institute talking about Arkansas and ESG and what's going
on in that state. You say this is a stronger bill.
I know here in the state of Utah, our state
Treasurer Marlow Oaks has been right. He's been ahead of
this game and really fighting ESG. Are other states now
looking at what Arkansas is doing because it seems to

(01:11:31):
go pretty strong in favor of the farmers. There are
other states looking at this, Jack.

Speaker 1 (01:11:36):
They are yes.

Speaker 4 (01:11:37):
So Arkansaw's bill is called the Farmers Protection Act, and
I know that. And there has been a model policy
produced by the American Legislative Exchange COUNSUL in coordination with
many anti ESG groups, including Heartland and many others. And
Profamily Legislative Network is another one, and that's been disseminated

(01:11:59):
to many states to enact the policies contained within it.
I know that North Carolina has a really strong bill
that's currently in committee. And currently they're around twenty states
and one hundred bills being either that have been considered
or are currently being considered in twenty twenty five. Not
all of them have to do with agriculture, but there

(01:12:19):
is a bebby of anti ESG legislation working its way through,
but right now there have only been four states that
have actually passed any sort of anti ESG policies, and
Arkansas is the only one that has to do specifically
with agriculture.

Speaker 1 (01:12:34):
You know, you laid out kind of the things that
cannot be a business can't be discriminated against, and then
maybe a directory of those institutions, insurance companies, banks, whatever
that would be discriminating against businesses. But I want to
I'm just as I was reading this, I was thinking about,
is there instead of a law that would be very
prescriptive on how to prevent it, is there a free

(01:12:55):
market answer where if you're a business and you don't
want regulatory barrier period and you want a free market,
and ESG and whatever their social agenda is could or
could even evolve into a you know, a barrier for
whatever business that you're engaged in. Is there room for
businesses to emerge in banking, in capital and insurance that

(01:13:18):
would the businesses would migrate to and really put out
a business Those that practice this ESG social engineering.

Speaker 4 (01:13:27):
I think that there is, in an ideal world, you know,
a free market solution like that. But the problem is
that in many ways we're not operating in a fully
free market, and that's because all of the capital is
controlled by these major Wall Street institutions. It's Black Rocket,
State Bankguard on the investment side, and then on the

(01:13:47):
banking side it's JP Morgan and Bank of America and
City and Wells Fargo, and they're all acting in concert
to control society, essentially to bypass democratic receipure and transform society.
And while there has been you know, some of these organizations,
like Larry Fink, who's the CEO of Black Rock, they've

(01:14:09):
been trying to sort of publicly back away a little
bit from the ESG terminology, especially as the populist wave
against ESG has grown. I don't think that these institutions
really have any intention of scaling back their practices, and
what they're essentially doing is acting in a monopolistic fashion.

(01:14:31):
And so that's why many state attorneys general have filed
suit against these companies and these large industry alliances, which
are now starting to break up. But it remains to
be seen whether we will be able to throw off
the yoke of Wall Streets and you know, get back
into a more of a free market. Society, which is

(01:14:51):
of course what our entire country is based on.

Speaker 2 (01:14:54):
I'll tell you what, Greg jug mcfair and Jack thanks
for joining us on the show to I tell you what, Greg,
having a financial institution tell a farmer you, We're not
going to lend you any money unless you follow these
cultural social norms or whatever. Yeah, or that's the most
ridiculous idea I've ever heard. And they do it all
the time.

Speaker 1 (01:15:12):
And then you know what the next step is like
in the Netherlands, stop farming.

Speaker 2 (01:15:15):
Yeah, stop farming.

Speaker 1 (01:15:16):
Now you can't farm because you aren't following the rule.
Your cows are emitting too much, you know, pollution into
the into the air. And I'm telling you the fact
that businesses don't just act as businesses and in the
best interest to the bottom line, which is actually a
moral because there's a there's a free market. There's some
free markets lifted more people out of poverty than any

(01:15:37):
government program. But then for those businesses to get so
big that now they become the public policy. Uh, the
purveyors of public policy hit the road. I cannot even
believe that we've got to a place like that. Businesses
have no right to push public policy.

Speaker 2 (01:15:52):
They don't. They don't, and the public I don't think
wants them two either. All Right, more coming up on
The Rodden Greg Show and Talk Radio one oh five
nine k n R S. Did you ever hear the
song live like you were dying? Tim McGrath, I think
I have. It was as I recall. I think it's
a tribute to his father, Tug McGraw, who used to
be the picture picture right, and he found out he

(01:16:15):
had cancer and this was kind of like a tribute
to his father. That's the story of Always.

Speaker 1 (01:16:18):
Won the World Series nineteen eighty Yeah.

Speaker 2 (01:16:20):
Yeah, with the Phillies, with the Phillies, not the Pirates. No, no, Well,
then I saw the story. I thought about that song
when I saw this story. This is a man his
name is Doug. I think it's either rock or rock
a rush. I think it's r U C Hkay would
that be rock? I call it rock rock? Okay?

Speaker 1 (01:16:39):
Uh?

Speaker 2 (01:16:39):
In San Antonio? Okay, lived there. Well, he learned that
he had prostate cancer and it was terminal. Okay, So
he lives in San Antonio. He goes back to his
apartment there and reflects on one of his biggest regrets,
being too focused on himself and not giving to others. Okay,
doing a little reflection, all right. With about twelve to

(01:17:01):
eighteen months to live, he considered helping hurricane Hurricane Helene
victims at the time, Okay, helping them out, but that
wasn't enough, he said, because he wanted to reach residents
in all fifty states. He has spent most of his
savings on his cancer treatment, so he decided he would
launch a fundraiser and hope others would help him achieve

(01:17:24):
his dying wish, volunteering for various organizations in all fifty states.
I mean, you know, he's trying to give back.

Speaker 1 (01:17:34):
Did he do it?

Speaker 2 (01:17:35):
And he's in the process of doing it. He's raised
about forty two thousand dollars and has reached every state.
His goal is to reach every state by this fall.
I'm not sure if he's been here or not. It
didn't say, but he goes to all kinds of organizations
like food shelters, pantries, other volunteer organizations, and volunteers for
a day just to say, I'm dying, but I want

(01:17:56):
to give something back before I go. That great story.

Speaker 1 (01:17:59):
That is a great story. Good for him.

Speaker 2 (01:18:00):
Yeah, he's doing Yeah.

Speaker 1 (01:18:02):
And you know what I mean. I think if you
have some kind of runway where you know that you're
going to pass from this life and you have some time,
that's a gift by itself that you have that time
to decide what you want to do next. Yeah, you know,
because some people die suddenly. So that's a that is
if you have that knowledge that the end is near
and you're able to maximize it, that's that's a pretty good.

Speaker 2 (01:18:23):
Opportunity in dealing with cancer. I haven't done it. I
know people will have. It's very, very tough to go through.
But he says when he volunteers, the days he feels
like he can volunteer and help people out in another area,
it just lifts them up. He just feels so much better.
Makes it in helping people out.

Speaker 1 (01:18:41):
And I also think having family members who've suffered from cancer,
and I think the mindset is such a powerful uh
uh defense against cancer is just your mindset. If you're
if you're depressed, if you're down, I think it gets worse.
I think if you're up in your gold, I think
you can stave off where you can make yourself feel
better for at least some period of time.

Speaker 2 (01:19:03):
It's just a great story. I was dying that sided
dip dedicate the rest of his life to volunteering. Nice story,
all right, That does it for us tonight, Head up,
shoulders back. May God bless you and your family and
this great country of ours. We're back tomorrow, starting a four.
We'll talk to you then

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