The Rod and Greg Show: Trump's Push to End Mail-in-Voting; What's Behind Utah's High Gas Prices?

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Speaker 1 (00:00):
You ever get a word that gets stuck in your
head and you can't get.

Speaker 2 (00:02):
It out ye that time, you know I have I
have a I shouldn't even mention this. I don't even
know why I started. I have a you know, a mental hit.

Speaker 1 (00:08):
Have fun with it.

Speaker 2 (00:09):
Where if you have a name that is a Muppet
name or a name from Sesame Street or something, I
start to confuse. If your name is Kermit, I want
to think your name might be Ernie.

Speaker 1 (00:19):
Or if your name is Grover, I might.

Speaker 2 (00:20):
Want to say it's it's, it's, it's, it's Burt. I
I just have as soon as I hear a Muppet name,
my brain just starts going all across the board. It's terrible.

Speaker 1 (00:30):
It probably has something to do with your childhood.

Speaker 2 (00:32):
I don't know. Well, I did love Sesame Street and
mister Rogers, but I but if you if I know
someone named Kermit, I'm constantly saying, is it Current or Grover?
What's his name? His name is Grover? I'm going is
it Kermit? I don't know? And then I'm afraid I
I just say hey, hi, because I don't want to
say there No.

Speaker 1 (00:48):
Well, we have much more serious things to talk about, yes,
we do yes. On the Rod and Greg show, we're
all talk about crime in d C. Oh, what a difference.
A few hundred National guardsmen in the nation's capitol. We'll
talk about that. The President wants to get rid of
mail in voting.

Speaker 2 (01:05):
Yes, I love you man from the congregation right here, Greg,
Where is the outrage?

Speaker 1 (01:12):
Are you aware of this story that happened in Florida
where a truck driver in this country on a working permit,
but was given a California driver's license, a CDL licens
in California driving in Florida just decides in the middle
of the freeway to make a U turn, killing three people.
Their van ran right into the bed of his truck,

(01:34):
and he stands there like no big deal. I mean,
this is an amazing story. Where is the outrage on this?

Speaker 2 (01:42):
I don't see it, and you certainly you see the
camera inside the truck cabin and he does not care
when they does have to care at all. The Carnegie
created and again there's just this is another example of
where common sense is just not finding its way into policy,
and it's got to end. I mean, it's it's it's
at the detriment of everybody in this country and it's

(02:03):
you know, I don't know, it's Yeah, I'm outraged since
I've watched.

Speaker 1 (02:08):
How how many stories do we hear about people who
are here illegally drunk drivers who run into somebody and
kill another American. It sneems like happens once or twice
a week.

Speaker 2 (02:19):
Well, we're seeing it more now because I think that
I think ice, every even field offic device is now
putting on social media when they when they arrest and
remove or deport someone, and I keep every time I
see it, I like to repost it and say that
that criminal is not oppressed, and enforcing federal law is
not oppression. I just put it every time I see
it because and it's always, like you said, it's someone

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that's DUI and then they have some scary criminal record
behind it, and that's not someone that's oppressed, and enforcing
federal law is not oppression.

Speaker 1 (02:50):
Well, those of you who listen to the show, and
we hope there are a lot of you, and we
appreciate your listening, can be fortunate today that you didn't
have to in our morning meeting today where one Greg
Hughes went on a thirty minute rant. Yeah, you're very right,
about that he knows the on gasoline prices. Yes, you

(03:10):
were just wound up on this.

Speaker 2 (03:12):
Very much so well, almost every day.

Speaker 1 (03:14):
But I let it.

Speaker 2 (03:14):
I let it loose, you let I was sick of it.
I'm tired, and it's because I get taunted every single
day I see from the Trump administration or some e
Congress plans are down, how low gas prices are while
we are paying through the notes.

Speaker 1 (03:27):
Well, we'll get into that a little bit later on,
and Congressman Mike Kennedy will join us later on as well,
So it should be a great show today. As always,
we invite you to be a part of the program,
of course. Eight eight eight eight eight eight five seven
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(03:48):
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to give us a comment on the talkback line as well.
So Donald Trump certainly getting a lot of heat from
those on the left Greg about realizing the nation's capital.
They're and tired of all the crime, said, something needs
to be done. So he's calling in the federal troops,
which he has done. National guardsmen from various states have

(04:09):
come in to help police deal with a crime. The Dems,
of course, are good. You can't do that. Apparently the
Democratic Party is a pro crime party, a party I
never heard of that.

Speaker 2 (04:20):
Well, public safety, they're not, don't They don't support it.
They do support I guess lawlessness and and and d
C of all of all jurisdictions. To complain about the
President's role or even Congress's role in the in the
governance of Washington, d C. Specifically, they have the levers
to be able to do so. So it's the strangest

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thing to make Washington, d C. The place where you say,
what is he doing? It's because the federal government, unlike
a state, is the boss, and the city of d
C is the sub political subdivision of the federal jurisdiction.
So it doesn't make any sense that they're this upset.

Speaker 1 (04:56):
Well, guess what has happened? Story out today. A crime
has already dramatically dropped in the nation's capital since the
president moved in. According to the DC Police Union, carjackings
are down a stunning eighty three percent.

Speaker 2 (05:12):
Oh the horror, this is terrible.

Speaker 1 (05:14):
Robberies are down forty six percent. Violent crime is down
twenty two percent. Also noted, assault with a deadly weapon
down six percent. Car thefts have dropped twenty one percent,
property crime is six percent lower, and overall crime is
down eight percent. What a difference a few police officers

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or National guardsmen on the street make.

Speaker 2 (05:39):
Yeah, you just can put the resources in place, and
you can do it, and instead of you know, complaining
about it as simple thank you would be nice. You know,
I mean, honestly, it's what they've needed. The place has been,
you know, it's it's been runaway, just chaos again. I
get a front row seats. I had a young son
who's living there this summer, and I get to hear
all the different details. And this is where I have

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some friends or people that are left of center who think, well,
this is so heavy handed. I don't know anything about
the DC violence, so why would we ever do it.
I don't know anything about it. Is if if a
tree falls in the woods and they didn't hear it,
then it didn't fall, It didn't fall. You know that
violence is real, whether you're on the front edge in
front row and know about it or not. That violence
is real. Since earlier this month, there have been four

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hundred and fifty arrests, including thirty or three known gang members,
and sixty eight firearms seized. On top of that, a
Monday evening alone, last night, authorities that the Capitol made
fifty two arrest including an MS thirteen gang member illegally
in the country. So do you think what the president
is doing is working? The numbers bear it out, don't they.

(06:45):
They sure do. And we knew that would happen. And
again at some point the Democrats left us have to
pivot and go, well, we were for that. Yeah, we
were never against that. Why are you saying that we are?

Speaker 1 (06:56):
We see their argument now is crime's already down. Why'd
you have to come in?

Speaker 2 (07:00):
Because, by the way, folks, just because they don't report
the crime doesn't mean the crime didn't happen. That didn't
mean crime fell. That meant that their stats fell. And
you can make stats fall without even touching crime.

Speaker 1 (07:10):
Yeah, that's true. All right, We've got a lot to
get to today when we come back to President not
only wants to get rid of mail in voting. Can
he do that? We'll talk about it coming up on
the Rotting Greg Show. Great to be with you on
this Tuesday afternoon on Utah's talk radio one oh five
nine knrs. The President said yesterday that he is going
to try and ban mail in voting before the twenty

(07:31):
twenty six mid term elections. Can he do that? What
about this idea? Joining us on our any hour newsmaker
line right now is John Gordon. John is a political
analyst also host of the Truth with John Gordon.

Speaker 3 (07:43):
John.

Speaker 1 (07:44):
How are you welcome to the Rodding Gregg Show. Thanks
for joining us, John, my pleasure.

Speaker 4 (07:48):
Thanks for having me.

Speaker 3 (07:49):
John.

Speaker 1 (07:49):
What do you make of this idea that the president
has to ban mail in voting.

Speaker 5 (07:55):
I was on a team of lawyers in Georgia in
twenty twenty and I was not a lawyer on the case,
although I am a lawyer. I was responsible for fundraising
and communications and we sued our clients sued.

Speaker 4 (08:12):
The Fulton Board of Elections.

Speaker 5 (08:13):
I've seen the evidence, I've talked to the witnesses. I've
played Devil's advocate with the forensic accountants. Georgia was flagrantly
stolen and it should never happen. It should never happen
in this republic. It is the foundation of our republic.
Serious election reform has to happen. Stopping mail in voting,

(08:36):
I e. Two thousand Mules from the movie on twenty
twenty Election, twenty twenty rigg. There's just so much evidence
of it, it's not even funny. And the fact that
they were the deep State brought this honest because they
hated Trump, and the fact.

Speaker 4 (08:52):
That they were able to get away with it.

Speaker 5 (08:54):
Is just unbelievable to me, and it can't happen. I
applaud President Trump's move on this. I think this is
the first salvo. I've predicted all along that Russia Russia,
Russia would be the first attack on the deep state,
and twenty twenty will be the second. I think you've
seen the first beginning of the first act. And then

(09:17):
all the evidence is going to start to come out,
just like.

Speaker 4 (09:19):
It did with Russia.

Speaker 5 (09:20):
Russia, Russia, and the American people will have to confront
the reality that the twenty twenty election was stolen and
it was done with the aid and betting of our
own bad actors in the federal government.

Speaker 2 (09:34):
So, John, we have President Trump in the White House.
We know why he wants to get rid of a
vote by mail and he wants chain of custody and transparency,
and people that should vote to be able to vote
in those that shouldn't not be able to. But we
want to. But for me, my conservative instincts say, I
don't want to federalize our elections because if you get
an Obama or a Biden in there, if once you

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let them in and you federalize an election, they couldg
it even worse than what we saw in twenty So
what is the careful steps that need to be taken
where President Trump is what he's saying is one hundred
percent true. We need to get rid of vote by mail.
But how do you do it where you keep states,
keep it decentralized and having the states conduct their own elections.

Speaker 5 (10:16):
Well, you have to get rid of the voting computers
as well, and we know that we suspect that there
was devilment associated with those as well. So the first
thing you do is you galvanize the American people and
you allow them to see the evidence and confront the
reality that our elections are not safe.

Speaker 4 (10:36):
They're not secure, and.

Speaker 5 (10:37):
It's the American people that are going to ultimately determine
how this happens. But you're very right, it is going
to require the states to protect their elections and ensure
a fair election. And I think if you just look
at the states that Trump won, I think that we
will have lots of states that.

Speaker 4 (10:57):
Will jump on board with this, to leave the.

Speaker 5 (11:00):
Outliers of California and New York and maybe Wisconsin. But
I think public pressure and public opinion will eventually convince
those lawmakers that they too have to be in favor
of fair and free elections. Otherwise we're a third world country.
That would be my question, do you want to live

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in a third world country if you do continue to
provide the instrumentalities for fake stolen elections.

Speaker 1 (11:30):
We're talking right now with John Gordon, John as a
political analyst. We're talking about the president's announcement yesterday that
he's going to try and ban mail in voting on
federal elections. In his statement yesterday, John, the president indicated
that we're the only country that uses mail in voting today.
Is that true? Do you know?

Speaker 5 (11:50):
I don't know. I take the president's word on it.
Very seldom does he end up being proven wrong on things.
And I know that I have met with the President
in his office on two occasions where this was the topic.
That's why I ran for Attorney General of Georgia with
his endorsement because I was so upset by what I

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saw in the twenty twenty election. Our constitutional officers failed us,
the media continued to port to perpetuate the lie, and
the courts would not come to our aid, even though
we had a superior court judge.

Speaker 4 (12:25):
And Georgia Brian Emera ruled.

Speaker 5 (12:28):
That we had demonstrated a prima facia case and that
the ballot should be unsealed and we should be allowed
to inspect him.

Speaker 4 (12:33):
It never happened. And then this weak need judge, I
don't know who or how.

Speaker 5 (12:38):
They got to him, but he did a one point
eighty nine months into the case and ruled that we
didn't have standing. And you may or may not know that.
The Georgia Supreme Court unanimously reversed his decision ordered that
we did have standing. That order to unseal the ballots remains,
and now it's stuck in another superior court where the

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judge has shown his bias in the David Purdue case
against the Fulton Board of Elections. So it's a mess
and it's got to be straightened out. Yeah ya, straighten
it out is to dismantle the deep state, and that's
what Trump is doing, one brick at a time.

Speaker 2 (13:16):
You said something important that you know, there's one judge
ultimately ruled that you didn't have standing. It sounds like
you were in the belly of the beast. You watched
this process, You saw the fraud firsthand. I get frustrated
when people say, all these lawsuits were brought, none of
them were able to carry, you know, carry the day.
But isn't it the case that that these lawsuits were
all ruled on standing. It wasn't on the merit of

(13:37):
what evidence was brought. It really was, well, you don't
have standing, and you can't. You can't make the case.
You're making any any factual cases where there were a
court looked at the evidence and made a ruling.

Speaker 5 (13:50):
Yes, Jefferson set here versus the Fulton Board of Elections,
the one I was just saying, oh yeah, judge yeah,
said that we had demonstrated priva facia case. He was
moving the case full Well, they never meant. There are
sixty three cases and they were all dismissed on legal technicalities.

Speaker 4 (14:10):
Usually standing was their crutch, And.

Speaker 5 (14:13):
I just don't know how you I don't know how
you organize something like that. It has been revealed just
in the last two weeks that Bill Barr was in
Georgia coaching Fawnie Willis in her persecution of Donald Trump
and eighteen other people, most of whom I know personally,

(14:34):
most of whom have had to go into their savings
to defend themselves.

Speaker 4 (14:38):
We expect that the George.

Speaker 5 (14:39):
Supreme Court is going to rule that Fawnie Willis was
conflicted and that she has to be removed from the case.
She should be removed from the Georgia Barr and for
one and willing to help anybody that wants to initiate
a bar complaint against her. The things that she did
are egregious and they violate so many of the canon

(15:00):
of Ethics. She should not be allowed to permit. She
should not be allowed to practice law going forward.

Speaker 1 (15:06):
Amen to that. John is always great chatting with you.
Thank you for your insight, and enjoy the rest of
your evening.

Speaker 4 (15:12):
Well, thank you and thank you for what you're doing.

Speaker 5 (15:13):
Keep it up and let's continue to work together to
save this great nation.

Speaker 1 (15:17):
Yes, Sir, John Gordon, political analyst joining us on the
Rod and Greg Show in Utah's talk Radio one oh
five nine k n RS. Three Americans are dead this
afternoon after an illegal alien semi truck driver with a
California commercial Driver's license attempted an illegal U turn on
a Florida turnbike and caused a minivent to violently crashing

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into the trucks trailer, and the driver of the truck
showed no remorse, made no attempt to help them whatsoever. Greg,
It's a story that you just go how often, how
much does howmar does this have to happen for us
to become outraged?

Speaker 2 (15:55):
And when you hear the conditions of which he was
even awarded the CDL, this commercial driver's license, he was
not able to complete any of the tests that were
put in front of him. He failed only answered two
of the twelve verbal questions accurately and could only identify
one of four highway signs. Yeah, and then you said, oh, here,
here's your seats. Yeah, there's no common sense in it.

Speaker 1 (16:18):
Well, let's get more on this story. Ira Melman, who's
the Federation for American Immigration Reform, always a good friend
of the show. Great to have you back on Iira,
what do you make of this story? What a tragedy?
In Florida.

Speaker 3 (16:30):
It is, and it was an avoidable tragedy. You know.

Speaker 6 (16:33):
Here you had somebody who entered the country illegally. In
twenty eighteen. The Trump administration, which who was in power
at the time, put it in removal proceedings. The Biden
administration came in, they said, no, you can file petitions
to remain here. They granted them work authorization. California, as
you pointed out, then gave him a commercial driver's license

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which allowed him to drive.

Speaker 3 (16:56):
These big rigs.

Speaker 6 (16:58):
These trucks are senttually weapons of mass destruction in the
hands of people who don't know how to use them
or are irresponsibly using them. And he seems to have
qualified for both those He checked both of those boxes.
You know, he was just driving along. He obviously missed
his exit on the freeway and decided rather than get

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off the next exit and get back on, he would
just make.

Speaker 3 (17:22):
A U turn.

Speaker 6 (17:22):
And three people are dead as a result. And you
have people in California who granted him this driver's license.
They take no responsibility whatever, even though they were complicit.

Speaker 2 (17:34):
All right, this is what worries me. I don't think
we just saw a silver bullet fly by I don't
think this is the only gentleman. It is so egregiously
unqualified to be driving one of these, as you called,
weapons of mass destruction. Any idea how many of these
missiles are on our freeways right now? Is such a
low bar to get a commercial driver's license.

Speaker 6 (17:54):
No, obviously we don't know, because you know, you have
to wait until something like this happens to out. I'm
sure that this is not the only guy that California
issued a license to to drive one of these big
rigs who is in the country illegally. And don't forget,
you can't even do background checks effectively on people who
are in the country illegally.

Speaker 3 (18:14):
You know, how are you going to go find out.

Speaker 6 (18:16):
About this guy's background in India if you're sitting in
some office in Sacramento. So essentially they're taking everybody at
their word. And apparently, as you pointed out, he couldn't
even pass the test, and California will bend over backwards
to accommodate illegal aliens. They gave them a license to
go drive this truck, not just in California but in

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all fifty states.

Speaker 1 (18:38):
How much, in your opinion, IRA, are trucking companies responsible
for this because I know there are a lot of
companies out there, trucking companies who are short of drivers.
They are looking for drivers and having a hard time
finding them. Do trucking companies having any role in this
to play?

Speaker 6 (18:55):
Do you think, Ira, Well, you know, I guess in
this case he was. He had a license that was
issued by California, he had work authorization that was issued
by the Biden administration. They were within their rights to
hire him. You know, they may even have faced some
kind of discrimination charge if they hadn't hired him. You know,

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it should never have gotten down to the level of
the trucking company. This should have been nipped in the bud.
Number one by the Biden administration. That should have said,
you know what, he's in deportation proceedings, let's leave him there.
Number two, California should not be issuing driver's licenses to
legal aliens, much less commercial driver's licenses. And yet you

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have dozens of states around the country that are doing
precisely that.

Speaker 2 (19:42):
So where do we go from here? I mean, what,
it's a fatal accidents happened. We know just by statistics,
it can't be the only one. Is this something that
Ice squints at and starts looking at a lot more closely.
I know they got a lot on their plate. It's
not like their board and don't have anything to do.
How can we expect this to be addressed?

Speaker 6 (20:03):
Well, you know, one of the things that this administration
can do is withhold certain funding. You know, we've seen
in the past where actually when it comes to highway funding.
You know, years ago, when they wanted states to impose
speed limits on the high interstate highways, they threatened to
withhold federal highway funding from the states that didn't comply.

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Same thing with requirements for motorcycle helmets. There is some
leverage that these that the federal government has over these
recalcitron states. Whatever it is, they should use the leverage
that they have before another accident, another tragedy like this recurs.

Speaker 1 (20:41):
I would do CDLs vary from state to state or
are they all basically the same? I don't think there
is a national CDL. Does it depend on the state
where you get the CDL?

Speaker 6 (20:50):
You know, I'm not an expert on CDLs, but I
would imagine so, because you know, if you're licensed to
drive a big rig in California, your drive license to
drive a big rig in any of the other states.
These are interstate trucks that go from one coast to
the other. I mean here he was clear on the
other side of the country when this happened. So that

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there should be some responsibility and accountability between the states,
because once California issues that license, he could be driving
on on the highway with your kids.

Speaker 3 (21:21):
And that's that should worry us.

Speaker 1 (21:23):
All yeah, amen to that. Ira As always appreciate your
insight into this. Thank you, Ira, pleasure anytime. All right
on our newsmaker line, Ara Melman, Federation for American Immigration Reform.
And this story is just so tragic and it simply
does not have to It shouldn't have occurred.

Speaker 2 (21:39):
No, and he hit on a point, an important point,
and that's federal funding. And we get later into the show,
we're going to talk about the way that you can
actually compel states behavior in this example and good ways
by withholding federal funds if they don't get their act together.
We saw that even in elections that happened way back when.
So federal funding is a way to u maybe look

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at some of these policies and change them.

Speaker 1 (22:02):
And in typical fashion, Gavin newsom blaying Donald Trump for this.

Speaker 2 (22:07):
Yeah, I don't know how of.

Speaker 1 (22:09):
Course, all right, mare coming up on the Rod and
Greg Show and Talk Radio one oh five nine k NRS.

Speaker 2 (22:15):
We're closing this first hour segment out. I just wanted
to share folks with you a clip. There is no
leadership in the Democrat Party, so you don't have anyone
that's really kind of set in the tone or set
in the pace, So you're just looking for some voices
that might that are left of center, that might make
a semblance of sense. Stephen A. Smith is actually starting
to fill that role, which I don't know if that's
a sad commentary or what, but this is a guy

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who in the past I've not heard a whole lot
from that I've thought was worth sharing with you. But
he in this clip, he is going to point out
what I think is being missed by the regime media,
and that is who started this mess with, you know,
with Russia and Ukraine conflict. And everyone wants to see
Trump fix it. But where did this whole thing start?

Speaker 7 (22:56):
We ain't going to act like he caused this now,
Democrats in office. It was Boden in office when a
full fledged war against Ukraine took place courtesy of Russia's instigation.
No matter what they try to say to Trump, it
was Russia that invaded Crimea, and that was under the
Obama administration. It was Clinton in office when you made

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a deal that disarmed the Ukraine and therefore weakened them,
leaving them depending on the United States and now here
they are having to beg for support that they're old
because of what we promised them.

Speaker 2 (23:37):
I mean, he's he's what he's trying to say is
we got to help the Ukraine. But who created this absoluteness? Obama, Biden, Clinton,
all three of them, they're the ones that created the
mess that we're in the middle of right now. Yeah,
And I think that's lost a lot with the regime
media right now. They like to somehow make it look
like this is Trump's issue. I mean, he's gonna fix it,
but he certainly didn't create it.

Speaker 1 (23:59):
And NBC this morning Treasury Secretary Scott Bessett kind of
laid out what Trump's strategy is when it comes to
these peach talks.

Speaker 8 (24:06):
Alaska was a show of force by President Trump. He
invited President Putin to land that the Russians used to
own he displayed a huge amount of military hardware and
then did a flyover. It was kind of like inviting
your uncontrollable neighbor to your house and showing him your
gun case.

Speaker 3 (24:26):
So then.

Speaker 8 (24:29):
The President Zelenski, we had a very good meeting with
him in his team in the Oval for about an
hour and a half.

Speaker 3 (24:36):
And then we.

Speaker 8 (24:37):
Went met with the European leaders, who was an incredible
group to have in the White House, all led by
President Trump. And yes, the culmination of that was a
call with President Putin. And my strong belief is that
there will be a bilateral meeting between President Putin and

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President Zolensky. And that's the only way to end this
conflict is to get the two sides talking.

Speaker 1 (25:06):
I love that line. He invited his unruly neighbor over
to the house to show him his gun case. It's
a great life. By the way, they are talking about
a meeting possibly in Buddhapest. Yeah, it's what they're talking
about now, between Putin and Zolensky. And the President of
course said hey, if you want me there, I'll get
involved as well. And he probably will need to.

Speaker 2 (25:24):
Be in mine. I think he will need to be.
But the thing is. He's the President's counting this in lives,
not in days, and then the more days you take,
the more lives he's calculating, and he doesn't want to
see it anymore. And so he's going to give it
his level. He's gonna do it everything he can to help.
But he knows if you're gonna make a deal, you
make it next week, you make it it, you need
to make it now, You need to do it now.
He has no patience.

Speaker 1 (25:44):
For no patience because every day, as you mentioned, more
lives are being lost. Right all right, five o'clock hour.
When we come back on the Roden Greg Show on
this Tuesday afternoon, why are Utah gas prices so damn high?
They'll find out mister Houston's favorite time, wind me up?
Do we need to all right, that's coming up on

(26:05):
the Rod and Greg Show. Stay with us.

Speaker 2 (26:12):
We have a Trump administration that wants to herald low
energy prices, gas prices every single day. And every time
I see an economist out of the White House say
it's eleven percent less for your gasoline today than it
was in January, I say not if you live in Utah,
it's not not even remotely close So this has been
one of these, as you well know, one of these
issues I've watched for a long long time. I remember

(26:35):
in six I think Go five to ZO six when
Governor Huntsman tackled this issue. So a good friend of mine,
Dave Davis, who is the president of Utah Retail Merchants
Association and I've again known him for a long time,
has bravely agreed to come on the program and talk
about these gas prices with us. Dave Davis, Welcome to

(26:57):
the Rod and Greg Show.

Speaker 1 (26:58):
Dave, how are you this afternoon?

Speaker 3 (27:00):
Dave?

Speaker 9 (27:01):
I'm doing great, and it is always good to be
among friends. And one thing about one thing about Greg
he has passionate. Yeah, I love that about.

Speaker 1 (27:13):
Well, well, let me tell you a quick story, Dave
little inside Baseball, we have a morning meeting every morning
where we discuss the issues of the day, Eric and
myself I Ray, who is our producer. I had to
sit there and listen to about a twenty minute rant
for mister Hughes complaining about gasoline. Bryce is Dave, so
help us out.

Speaker 2 (27:30):
I'm being taunted, Dave every time I read about how
every sixty dollars a barrel for gas for crude oil,
and how everything's so low. It's like it's like a
poke in the eye. Okay, and I got I can't
be alone here. Everybody must be looking at three thirty
nine a gallon for regular unleaded three thirty six. It's
you know, you get this gas Buddy app that tells

(27:51):
you how bad you have it compared to others. Maybe
shed some insight because I think the refineries want to
blame all the comedian stores. This is all your fault.
This is all your according to the refiers heard from
the Grapevine. So you know.

Speaker 9 (28:05):
Yeah, So Greg, you bring up a good point when
you raise the gas Buddy app. And let me tell
you that I'm coming from a retail perspective representing these
fuel retailers that are out there. When you look at
the pricing of fuel and how the market works, there

(28:26):
is nothing in our economy that is priced more transparently
than fuel. You reference the gas Buddy app. That's one
of them ways has one. There are a dozen apps
out there that enable consumers with a few clicks of
their smartphone to look around for where the best priced

(28:48):
gas is. Not only that fuel is that sort of
strange commodity that gets advertised on a giant billboard outside
of every resale store that is out there. So I
would just say, when you look at a commodity in
the market, there's nothing that is more transparently priced than

(29:13):
fuel is out there. As far as how we're doing
as it compares to other states, part of that is
inside of the control of the supply chain. When you
look at the supply chain from extraction to refining, to
transportation to retailing, and part of that is outside of

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our control right And the piece that is outside of
our control is our state excise taxes in Utah. When
you look at where we are as far as state
excise taxes go, we are the ninth highest taxing state
in the nation. So that is the price at all

(30:00):
of us see as we pull up to our favorite
convenience store, includes that state excise tax. Yes, the gas tax,
the gas tex So we're thirty eight and a half
cents here in Utah, which again makes us the ninth
highest in the country. Now, I'm not necessarily begrudging that

(30:25):
because we have huge transportation needs here in our state.
I know that this was an issue Greg when you
were in the legislature that you were very passionate about,
as well as making sure that we had adequate roads
for all of our cars to run up. But that

(30:45):
being said, when you take our gas prices and then
you adjust them for state excise taxes or the gas
taxes in our state and surrounding states, we're actually not
doing too bad. When you look at Utah compared to Wyoming, Colorado, Idaho, Washington,

(31:07):
Oregon and the bad there is only one state that
is when adjusted, that is less expensive than what we
are here in Utah.

Speaker 2 (31:21):
Dave, here's there's two things I want you to consider.
One is that Wyoming, Colorado, New Mexico, Arizona all right
now are in the high two dollars a gallon range.
If you take the tax that you've just got, the
gas tax, and you subtracted from all those states, and
you see there's a difference. As you pointed out, you're
still not. That's not the difference we see in the

(31:42):
price that's higher here in Utah. The one thing Utah
has going for it that other states don't that I
don't see us getting the benefit from is we have
refineries that are in our front yard. They're not in
some remote area of Utah. They are in our literal
front yard. In North Salt Lake. You have a two
hundred and fifty five mile pipeline from Sinclair, Ioming to
the refineries. You have a unique integrated supply chain of

(32:05):
Maverick where they from the well to the refinery to
the retailer they can there's no middlemen in there. They
should be a floor. To your point about how they
advertise gasoline, that's usually to draw people in and then
see the margins in the store, they should be a
floor in this state because of how integrated they are
with the absence of third party retailers or a third

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party people inside that supply chain. Why aren't we seeing
that infrastructure that we have in Utah that other states
don't have. Why isn't that not amounting to cheaper gas prices?

Speaker 9 (32:38):
So, and I think that my message back to you
is I think that we are seeing when you look
at the headwinds that we have here in Utah, I
think that we are seeing that translate into when you
look at tax adjusted prices to where we are adding prices. Now,

(33:01):
don't get me wrong, I want to see gas prices lower.
Everyone wants to see gas prices lower. We want to
as retailers work with our legislature to see if there
are things that we may be able to do to
help with that process of bringing those prices down as

(33:25):
much as we possibly can. But we also want to
trust in the market and let the market sort of
adjust these the way that they should be. And again,
when you look at the headwinds that we have here
in Utah, another one is when you look at our
growth compared to surrounding state's growth, ours is substantially higher.

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When you look at our growth compared to the United
States as a whole, ours is substanti actually higher. When
you the demand for fuel in Utah has gone up
by five point two percent since twenty sixteen, where the

(34:12):
rest of the country when you look at it, it
is actually decreased by five point seven percent. So we're
we're sort of victims sometimes of our own success, you know,
the great management that the legislator and our leaders do
of the state. That we have this influx and we

(34:34):
see it in our housing prices, and that demand is
just going up significantly compared to other places, and so
we're facing that headwind in front of us. The other
thing that we have are Tier three fuels. Now, once again,
I want to be clear. Tier three fuels are a

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good thing. They're helping us with our air shed here
in Utah. They're critical to our overall plan to make
sure that we're in compliance with our air quality stands.
But they're also more expensive to produce.

Speaker 2 (35:15):
Than midday And you're talking to a guy that was
on the clock. The state paid for We gave you
tax credits for that. We gave them like we the
state paid for that so that that that that would
happen here. We modernized those refineries so that that Tier
three fuel would be would be refined in Utah because
it benefits the state are clean air as well. But
that's a that's a cost that was born, I would

(35:35):
argue by the taxpayer by giving those tax credits and
making it so that they could be that that expense
of at least upgrading those refineries were born from the
state or incentivized by the states. So you got to
give credit for that too. That's not that's not born
on the on them by themselves.

Speaker 1 (35:52):
Dave, let me ask you one question. Dave, let me
ask you one question. You brought up the refineries and
I drive by them every day on my way home.
The question that I hear from people sometimes is because
California is getting rid of their refineries, they are buying
Utah fuel to feed the beast in California. How any
idea as to how much of the fuel coming out

(36:13):
of the refineries that we have here in the state
is going to California.

Speaker 9 (36:18):
Yeah, so I hate to sort of speak on behalf
of the refineries. Let me tell you what I understanding.

Speaker 2 (36:26):
Say, it's all your faults.

Speaker 1 (36:27):
So go ahead, David, It's all your fault.

Speaker 9 (36:30):
So I understand that there's about twenty percent of our
fuel that is here produced here in the state that
is leaving the state. Now, again, this is something that
I would encourage you all to sort of take up
and make sure that this is accurate information. But my

(36:53):
understanding is you've got about twenty percent that's leading the state,
and that includes going to places like Idaho and Oregon,
in Washington and California. So I don't know what the
number is for California, but I would also mention I
think that that's pretty consistent with what you see in

(37:14):
other places that are refining products. Is a certain portion
of that is going to be exported outside the state
based upon contracts that are at But again, that would
be a great question I think for our representatives of
the refineries to get exactly what those numbers are. From

(37:38):
a retail perspective, we're you know, retailing of gas is
a very small margin and you try to make it
a high volume business.

Speaker 1 (37:50):
Yeah, yeah, yeah, Well, Dave, we appreciate your answers. We
have reached out to the refiner reach they won't come
on with us, but you did and we appreciate you
taking the time to talk to us. Dave, Thank you.

Speaker 9 (38:02):
Yeah, it's always good to be with you.

Speaker 10 (38:04):
Thanks.

Speaker 3 (38:04):
All right.

Speaker 1 (38:05):
That's Dave Davis with the president of the Utah Retail
Merchants Association, answering some questions about, you know, gas here
in the state of Utah. And I have the frustrations
that you do, Greg, because I use the higher end.
I've made three seventy seven the other day for gas.

Speaker 2 (38:20):
Well Cape Cod has gotten gas and two dollars eighty
seven cents and they don't have a refinery and oil
well pipelines, they don't have any of the infrastructure I want.
Cape Cod price gas. Yeah, and it's not all reflected
the difference isn't in the gas tax alone. There's there's
a gas tax a bit, but it's it is not
it is not the difference.

Speaker 1 (38:36):
Yeah, So you know, I'd like to hear from our listeners.
They're frustrations that they feel we have no Is it
just me? No? No, And I'm with you on this one.
I hate to agree with you on this one, but yes,
I think we all feel that frustration. We hear stories that,
you know, we're producing more oil and gas than we
ever have in this country right now, record amount of
oil and gas being produced, yet we're still paying higher prices.

(38:59):
Do you share the same frustrations eight eight eight five
seven o eight zero one zero or on your cell
phone dial pound two fifty and say hey Rod, or
leave us a comment on our talkback lines. We'll hear
from all of you. Coming up right here on the
Rotten Greg Show. As Greg and I explored the question
about why gasoline prices are so high here in the
state of Utah, we want to get your reaction to

(39:19):
what Dave had to say and your thoughts on gasoline
prices as well.

Speaker 2 (39:23):
So let's go to the phones, right, Yeah, let's go
to Paul, who's been waiting in Springville. Paul, thank you
for holding. Welcome to the Rotten Greg Show.

Speaker 4 (39:31):
Hi, guys, I really appreciate the show.

Speaker 2 (39:34):
Thanks.

Speaker 9 (39:35):
I just got back from Arizona and take two dollars
and seventy nine cents gallon, and all I heard.

Speaker 4 (39:43):
I listened to it with all due respect.

Speaker 9 (39:45):
All I heard was focum. That's all. It was equivocation, justification.

Speaker 11 (39:52):
I don't know why our gas is so high, but
I don't believe most of what I just listened to.

Speaker 2 (39:58):
Thank you, Paul. You know, look, gasoline usually is a floor,
and it's a race of the floor because you're trying
to draw people into your Communian store. My theory, my
belief is that we don't have that we have because
of where we are. We have a high price point
that everybody tracks to the high price point, not the
low price point. But let's go back to the phones.
Let's go to Kyle in Bountiful. Kyle, Welcome to the

(40:20):
Ron and Greg Show.

Speaker 4 (40:23):
Thanks guys, thanks for having me on. I appreciate it.

Speaker 12 (40:25):
I'm just my feeling after listening to that interview was
that it doesn't you know, the supply doesn't matter. It
doesn't matter that we have refineries in our backyard or
front yard. Like you were saying, it all has to
do with demand, and as long as there's a demand,
the prices are going to continue to go up. And
basically what I got from that is basically.

Speaker 4 (40:48):
Screw the consumer. And this is like a utility.

Speaker 2 (40:52):
What are you going to do?

Speaker 12 (40:53):
You're not going to drive the work because I mean,
how is the demand going to be lower?

Speaker 1 (40:58):
It's just crazy and there's nothing you can do about it.
I mean, we need gasoline. We'll pay whatever we need
to be able to get around, go to work, go
to the various activities that were involved in folks.

Speaker 2 (41:08):
I'll tell you what I would take the pepsi challenge
all day on this. I'm telling you the national market,
they have a low basement on gas prices. People tracked
other other comedian stores and gas retail gas operators track
to that lower price to draw customers in. And that's
how the game is played. In Utah. It's a ceiling.
I'm telling you, it's a ceiling, and they all go
up to that higher amount. And when you have it

(41:29):
as integrated as we do in Utah with some of
these companies are up to forty percent of the gas
we buy in the state are the ones that don't
have any middleman man. That's that's where you know it's
it's not it doesn't feel free market to Yeah.

Speaker 1 (41:41):
More your calls and more of the comments on our
talk back line. You'll hear them when we come back
right here on the Rod and Greg Show and Talk
Radio one oh five nine ky nrs. We're all frustrated.

Speaker 2 (41:50):
By I'm telling you I didn't think I was crazy.
I think I'm absolutely part of getting gouged. I really do.
But what say you, folks. Let's go to Terry who's
been paid only waiting in light and Terry, thank you
for holding, Thank you for waiting. What do you think
about this?

Speaker 11 (42:06):
I completely I support you completely.

Speaker 9 (42:09):
Greg.

Speaker 10 (42:10):
It's frustrating for us.

Speaker 11 (42:13):
The thing is, I don't understand how can like Riverton
price be two ninety five and then in Leyton is
three twenty nine and here where I'm at now I'm
a truck driver. I'm here in Saint George. It's like
three thirty something out here, And You're like, why.

Speaker 13 (42:33):
Should there be such a big.

Speaker 11 (42:37):
Difference in throughout the whole Utah state.

Speaker 10 (42:39):
It shouldn't be that way.

Speaker 1 (42:40):
No, it shouldn't. Terry, that's a good question.

Speaker 2 (42:42):
And Terry, this is the bad news, Terry that you
when you see that fluctuation, it's because those other, those
other retailers, those community stores haven't seen the high price yet. No,
as soon as they catch wind, as soon as they
see it, because it happened and moves around every day.
They all track to the ceiling, not the floor. At
the ceiling. This isn't a competition like around the country
where you're trying to be the lowest price, so every
want to come to your store. They track to the

(43:04):
highest one because that highest one has the healthiest margins.
So they're thinking, well, if they're up there, why aren't we.
That's what's moving these prices. It's it's the big boys
that have all the integrated infrastructure in the state, who
are We're getting a bigger profit margin. So the other
ones and smaller ones track to that higher number.

Speaker 1 (43:20):
And the frustration is we all feel it and they've
got us by the you know what, and not a
whole lot we can do about it, not unless we
call somebody. All right, let's go to our talk back lines.
See what our great listeners have to say today.

Speaker 14 (43:33):
Hey, guys, just thinking about, you know, the talk radio
lineup with Glenn Beck and Clay and Travis and so on,
and the things that they can get their audiences to do,
whether that's emailing somebody or sending letters or donations or whatever.

Speaker 4 (43:48):
Why can't we do that in this situation when.

Speaker 3 (43:50):
It comes to gas prices? Who do we got to email?

Speaker 14 (43:52):
Who do we got to write letters to?

Speaker 4 (43:53):
Who do we got to talk to you to get
this changed?

Speaker 15 (43:55):
Well?

Speaker 1 (43:55):
I think what your state legislator for one? Right, yes,
any general's.

Speaker 2 (44:00):
Office, governor, call the governor, go right to the governor,
but right to your lawmakers and and the and and look,
I love our our Senate President Stewart Adams, Speaker of
the House Mike Schultz, the one I've seen out there
publicly complaining about the same thing. Speaker Schultz took a
picture of the gas in Wyoming and said, what in
the world's going on here? So I think Speaker Schultz
is feeling it himself. I would, I would, I would

(44:23):
reach out to your legislature. I'm glad that call came
in and is making that observation because you can. I
you gotta know this about lawmakers. They hear from lobbyists
the most, not their constituents. The lobbyists the most. If
you are yes and you put your title line your address,
if you feel comfortable doing that, they don't hear from

(44:44):
their constituents as much. It is a bigger deal and
you should get a response. Yeah, all right, another caller,
Let's go to Mike.

Speaker 15 (44:51):
This is Craig from Ogden area, and I just did
a quick search on the internet for the number of
oil refineries in Arizona. From our previous co comment, there
are zero refineries in Arizona. They get their gas pipelined
in from California and Texas.

Speaker 1 (45:09):
That's the frustration. You brought this up. I brought it up.
We've got three or four refineries sitting about ten miles
north of us. How are all going? What gives?

Speaker 2 (45:17):
Yeah? If having all this infrastructure doesn't get us cheaper gas,
I just want to go to the model where we
don't have any of it. Anybody somehow get cheaper gas
because that's what everyone else is getting to do. Let's
go to Mike in Centerville. Mike, thank you for holding.
Welcome to the Writing Greg Show.

Speaker 4 (45:31):
Yeah.

Speaker 16 (45:32):
Yeah, So if you guys go to your gas buddy
app or your Maverick app whatever. A lot of times
you're going to find the cheapest gas in the whole
state is in still More. Yeah, they have a little
price for war going on down there.

Speaker 1 (45:43):
Really.

Speaker 16 (45:44):
And also yeah, also a number of years a number
of years ago, I worked on a financial statement audit
and I got to listen to a phone call between
the I think it was either the CF or the
CEO and the controller of Flying j and uh, you know,

(46:06):
the CFO or the controller or the CFO or the CEO.
They asked for a report and for some numbers, and
they basically read off the numbers the amount of the
prices of competitors in different locations, and then they then
directed people to you know, set their prices according to

(46:27):
what their competitors were, not not what it actually costs them.

Speaker 1 (46:33):
Interesting. Interesting, Thank you much.

Speaker 2 (46:35):
I love the example of film work because film was
one that when you were a remote area. The way
it used to work is that if you were in
areas that didn't have a high high population, so you
don't have the same volume, you'll see gasoline costs more.

Speaker 1 (46:46):
Yeah, you would think.

Speaker 2 (46:47):
So that's the way they's always been economics, when you
can go to Filmore and see it so much less.
It's it's less expensive there. For a fact, it is
not cheaper to get it there than through seventy five
percent of fourk contiguous counties of watt thatch front.

Speaker 3 (47:03):
It is.

Speaker 2 (47:04):
It is all on margins, high margins, and they're all
tracking too the high margin and just trying to be
each other by a little bit. But they're up in
the up in the profit side, and then they're not
chasing it like you see in Fillmore or another place.

Speaker 1 (47:16):
All Right, a lot more of your calls and a
lot more of our talk about comments coming up right
here on the Rod and Greg Show and Utah's Talk
Radio one o five to nine k NRS. This as
we talk about gasoline prices here in Utah. Let's go
to Chris en Royd tonight on the Rod and Greg Show. Hi, Chris,
thanks for calling in.

Speaker 10 (47:32):
Hey, thanks for taking my call. So I used to
manage it a chevron, you know, a decade or so ago,
and I am a little worried obviously about the government
controlling anything.

Speaker 3 (47:48):
Yeah, So I really don't think.

Speaker 10 (47:49):
That that's the the the answer is too the government.
But at the same time, prices definitely should be taxes
should be the same from city to city and state
to state. I think that's something that can be done
through legislation. But and again, like when it comes to

(48:11):
small business owners, the last thing we want to do
is tell them what price that they can have for
their product. And so that's the thing that I worry
about is you know, small businesses would be eliminated because
it would only be the big guy that can afford it.

Speaker 1 (48:26):
Good boy, let me.

Speaker 2 (48:27):
Just make this comment about that real quickly. And I
hear what you're saying. But when I know that the taxpayer, Chris,
you meet, every taxpayers paid Chevron. Chevron has refineries in
North Salt Lake. We paid for the taxpayers paid for
the upgrades through tax credits for those refineries to be
upgraded through which is here true EPA was requiring it
from the refiners. We wanted the cleaner fuel here the

(48:49):
state we paid. I want my money back if it
doesn't mean that we burn. We took the cost of
that so that they could create it. And we don't see,
we don't see an advantage a supply chain of van
of having those refineries right here. Let's go to Brian
who's been patiently waiting, or and Brian, thank you for holding.
Welcome to the show.

Speaker 13 (49:10):
Hey, howdy howdy.

Speaker 17 (49:11):
So honestly, a lot of this seems to be just
the result of Utah's, especially Utah Counties, like most of
where we live, just poor poor traffic control and infrastructure
for getting on the freeway. All the freeway exits all
seem to have the exact same gas brand.

Speaker 3 (49:29):
Right, there's a Maverick at every.

Speaker 13 (49:30):
Single entrance, every single exxit.

Speaker 4 (49:35):
They're nice gas station.

Speaker 17 (49:37):
Everyone loves those gas stations because they're nice and clean,
but they raise their prices above everyone else.

Speaker 16 (49:43):
Everywhere I go, they're.

Speaker 17 (49:44):
Consistently five to ten cents higher than everywhere else. But
they're the ones on all the main through ways to
get anywhere. If you want to get cheaper gas, you
have to go sit in an hour long line at
Costco or Sam's Club, or go find some back out
alley that's really hard to get you. And generally the
gas he seems going to be dirty. So I think
it's what the previous interview. The previous interview you had

(50:07):
was correct in the sense that it's supply and demand.
It's just unfortunate that all of the prime real estate
has been picked up by one company and they'd realized
they could raise their price, and they're still going to
get flooded with customers because there's nowhere else to go.

Speaker 1 (50:19):
Boy, I tell you what, Brian, that is a very
interesting point. I think again I have talked about for sure, and.

Speaker 2 (50:23):
Let me compound that, which makes it harder. Maverick has
got to be the only, maybe one of the only
ones gas comedian stores in America where they control the
entire supply chain from the refinery to the delivery for
their shops. Okay, so there's no third party wholesalers involved.
They control the production, the distribution, the marketing, no third

(50:45):
party wholesalers, and they're the highest, come on, and the nicest.
I like their food. I'm trapped going there too. I
feel so bad about it.

Speaker 1 (50:53):
Todd in Syracuse tonight on the Rod and Greg Show.
Go ahead, Dodd, Hey.

Speaker 18 (50:59):
In the eighties and the nineties, it was explaining to
us this way, our manufacturer gas is sold in California,
and because they can sell it for a higher price there,
you and I have to pay the higher price because
they're missing out on that money they can make there.
And I don't know if that's true. It was explained
to us.

Speaker 13 (51:17):
At the time.

Speaker 1 (51:18):
Yeah, no, I think that is partially true.

Speaker 2 (51:22):
Now let me give you more bad news. And those
guys have now destroyed and torn down the refineries they
did California, so they have less to refine and more
demand to pull out of this state.

Speaker 1 (51:32):
Yeah, let's hear from one of our talk about colors.

Speaker 19 (51:35):
THEO said that the prices are reflection of the growth
in the state here in Utah for the gas. Well,
if that's the case, then how come prices in Florida,
which is growing faster than Utah, are lower than Utah
right now than they were a year ago in that
same state.

Speaker 1 (51:56):
That's a very good point. And Day brought that up,
and both you and I shook our heads at that. Yeah,
wait a minute, Yes, we're growing, but you've got Texas
Texas different because they you know, they're they're the oil king,
So you understand it in Texas. But how about Florida,
And they're growing fast too, and their prices are lower.

Speaker 2 (52:12):
And you can't lay it at the gas tax disparity
of of this. What we're talking about in price exceeds
the difference in the gas tax. It's just math you
can look at and see that that's the case. Yeah,
it's it's it isn't the it's it's not that the
growth is happening. It's that they are not using the
model that's used around the country, and that is you're
trying to bring in people, draw them in through a

(52:33):
lower price point on the gas so that they'll buy
it in your convenience store. They're not doing that. You've
got the biggest, one of the biggest games in town
that Sinclair and Maverick. They put it up high and
everybody draws up to that ceiling. That's what's going on
in Utah.

Speaker 1 (52:45):
We know of one lawmaker that is very concerned about this.
House Speaker Mike Schultz. I know others are as well.

Speaker 20 (52:50):
Yep.

Speaker 1 (52:51):
If you want to let them know, get on the
phone and call them and express your frustration like you
have on the show this afternoon. All right, Congressman Mike Kennedy,
we'll join us next on the Rod and Greg Show.
More to come. The PGA moments ago announced that one
of Donald Trump's golf courses will host a PGA event.
Remember they what they've boycotted those, Yes, those clubs since

(53:13):
what twenty sixteen when it ran for president something like that.

Speaker 2 (53:16):
His golf courses have only been on the live tour.
They've not been They've PGA banned them and everything else.
They didn't have it there that now they've announced they're
going to have it there. And I think we just
heard it say the European leaders are calling it daddy
shack d.

Speaker 1 (53:31):
Yeah, gotta love it. Well, there is so much news
going on when it comes to the issue of illegal
immigration in this country and the crackdown that the President
has ordered and it's taking place along the border and
in our cities around the country, and the deportations are amazing.

Speaker 2 (53:46):
Greg, they are. I mean, you have a safe border,
you have a secure border. It turns out that the
laws we had on the books were adequate to do
just that, unlike we heard or saw it. And during
the Biden administration, one of our great members of Congress
who can really frame this well and talk about the
process and what Congress needs to prioritize regarding the border,

(54:07):
as our very own Congressman Mike Kennedy, joining us on
the program right now to talk about this. Congressman Kennedy,
welcome to the Rod and Greg Show.

Speaker 13 (54:15):
Rod and Greg, thanks for having me. It's always a pleasure.

Speaker 2 (54:18):
So look, I think you're up at we were stable.
You had some comments about what should be the priorities
of Congress given what the president's done, how he has
secured the border. What does the agenda look like in
Congress to make sure that we keep these borders secure.

Speaker 13 (54:32):
Well, the nice thing is it's not just what the agenda,
that's the bills that we've passed. So get this your
listeners may or may not know, but Washington, d C.
Had a city ordinance that a district ordinance that illegal
aliens could vote in their elections. So we actually had
to pass a law. They said, Washington DC cannot allow
non citizens to vote in their elections, as if that

(54:54):
is some sort of radical thing that we should move
through Congress. Goodness sake, we're having to work on the
same katuary states and cities, and it's at Washington, d C.
Is one of those places that allows that. So we've
passed that law. We've passed the Lake and Riley Act,
which most people know the terrible story of that nice
Georgian nursing student who was raped and murdered by an
illegal alien. And I've got a lot of decent people

(55:16):
who are saying, well, what about the nice guy down
the way. He has been doing my work for me
for the past ten or twenty years, and he happens
to be here illegally. As I say, when the Biden
administration lets tend to twenty million people across the border,
some of whom may be criminals, some of whom may
be honest people just trying to get a better form
of life, then we have to be scrutinizing it careful.

(55:37):
And actually, Congress and the United States House representatives, we're
working on this. We need to get the Senate on board,
though you know those senators they kind of.

Speaker 1 (55:45):
Get around, you know, Congressman, let me ask you this.
I mean, you know, we had what I've heard estimates
as highs ten and a half million people came into
the the country illegally during the Biden year. They all
can stay here, We're going to have to deport some
of them. Is deportation necessary in your opinion?

Speaker 21 (56:08):
Absolutely?

Speaker 13 (56:08):
And many of these people and that's where these targeted
deportations are happening, is that we are focused on trend
Aragua and MS thirteen gang members, the average person who's
over there kind of doing their work. These people are
not the subject of these deportation efforts. We need the
criminal elements out, but invariably, and as a doctor, this

(56:29):
is kind of my frame of reference. Is if somebody's
having a heart attack and I have to do CDPR
and I happen to break some ribs while I'm doing CPR,
I'm really sorry, but I'm trying to save your life.
The reality is we're trying to clean up a mess
that the Biden administration has left, and there are going
to be some innocent, decent people that are wrapped into
that process, and it's just something that's going to happen.

(56:52):
But I, as a congressman in my office stand ready
to advocate for anybody who is here legally and got
wrapped up in some kind of ice ray. But this
is the consequence of Joe Biden saying, Hey, it's open
the borders, let's all eat ice cream for dinner forever.
And now the Republicans are trying to come in and
clean up the mess, telling people they got to eat
some asparagus and broccoli, and there's going to be some

(57:13):
angst and trouble associated with that. But this is the
right thing to.

Speaker 2 (57:16):
Do, Congressman. Isn't it the case that we can't even
get to the stories where we should have a tall wall,
bit a wide gate, We should have some You got
to have a way to reasonably get into the country,
or you're promoting illegal entry if you don't. But you
can't even get to those moments or those solutions if
you don't have a secure border. If you try to

(57:36):
deal with any of those issues before you knew that
the border was secure, it becomes a magnet for people
to come in illegally and try to take advantage of
those different laws. Don't what is chicken or the egg?
How do you get to a point where you can
deal with people that We had a caller once who
owns a landscaping company. He does have people come over

(57:58):
on visas for a season. But that process isn't very smooth.
It doesn't work very well. But can you ever deal
with that until you deal with the main problem, which
is illegal immigration?

Speaker 13 (58:07):
Dop the hemorrhage first? Exactly that President Trump, and you
said it earlier, Greg, is that we didn't need new
laws on the books. We needed a president that actually
cared and Kamala Harris as entirely worthless as the borders are.
She didn't do any work on that at all as
far as we can tell. So between the two of them,
they were ignorant or unwilling to deal with this for
any number of reasons. President Trump on January twentieth started

(58:31):
working on this, and this is where we've put with
the Big Beautiful Bill. We put seventy billion dollars into
building the border wall. We put seventy billion dollars into
custom border patrol and protection and making sure that they
have the technology that they're building the wall where it's
appropriate that we have technology at the border to protect
us from people that are coming across. And yes, there

(58:51):
are some honest, honorable people that might come, but there's
also fentanyl coming across to kill our young children. There's
also human trafficking and sex trafficking that's going on at
the border, and Mexican cartels are advantaged as a result
of this. We're making money off of human lives and
it's entirely unacceptable. And I was at the border. It
was the first trip I took outside of coming back

(59:13):
and forth to Washington, d C. From Utah and there's
an order at the border. There are, as we've all heard,
ninety nine point nine percent of border crossings now have
been terminated, and the people that are coming are actually
justified to come. So I'm proud of the President and
the Republicans because not only are we talking the talk,
but we're also putting the money in so that the
next president who doesn't care about the border, which invariably

(59:35):
there's somebody going to do that, that we actually now
have a border wall, and we also have border security
in the form of technology, and we have border agents
that can actually do their job and their incentivis to
do their job.

Speaker 1 (59:47):
We're talking with a third district, Congressman Mike Kennedy from
the great State of Utah. Congressman Kenny, I want to
have you ever seen a figure or a good analysis
of the impact that illegals i've had on this country
since Joe Biden took over, when it comes to education,
the impact they've had on our schools, when it comes
to healthcare, when it comes to welfare. Do you have

(01:00:10):
a sensens to the real impact that this has had
on our country or do people in general have a
sense of the impact they've had.

Speaker 13 (01:00:18):
We've got an estimate of eighty four to ninety four
billion dollars a year that the illegal aliens are costing us.
By the way, I've had some people criticize we can't
use the word illegal alien. It's unkind or uncharitable. That's
the technical word in the code. It's they're in the
code referred to as illegal aliens. By the way, my
dad is an immigrant, and I'm a big fan of immigrants.

(01:00:38):
I'm a first generation American. But the other piece about
not only the cost eighty four to ninety four billion
dollars a year, and I'll also say that we have
one point four million illegal aliens on Medicaid right now,
and Greg particularly knows about Medicaid dealing with that. A
speaker of the House is Medicaid is a fundamental program
for pregnant women, disabled people, and impoverished people. The fact

(01:00:59):
that Caln, Illinois, and New York have registered illegal aliens
on Medicaid trying to game the system for whatever reason,
they're going to break a system that's necessary for pregnant ladies,
and that is costing an eye opened a bill file
to check for that sort of thing. Seven hundred billion
dollars just for the medicaid component of illegal aliens. So

(01:01:19):
in all we're doing in the big beautiful bills requiring
states to verify eligibility for medicaid, that's going to save
US seven hundred billion dollars a year just with that.
Let alone the eighty four to ninety four billion dollars
a year that it's going to cost associated with enforcement,
social programs, education systems, because we know when these people
come and they show up at school and they need
a translator because nobody speaks English in a family, then

(01:01:42):
that's going to cost states, communities, and the federal government
a bunch of money.

Speaker 1 (01:01:47):
Sure is Congresson Kennedy. Always great to have you on
the show. Thanks for joining us tonight.

Speaker 13 (01:01:51):
My pleasure. Thank you.

Speaker 2 (01:01:52):
Thanks all right.

Speaker 1 (01:01:53):
That is Utah third District Congressman Mike Kennedy right here
on the Rod and Greg Show and Utah's Talk Radio
one oh five done, k.

Speaker 2 (01:02:00):
N R S and man, there's some truth bombs coming
through it today. I love our listeners, you guys, you're
just the smartest listening audience and all the land. And
so I just I THINKT Groad, you know, we might
have other things we want to talk about, but I
think we should just go back.

Speaker 1 (01:02:15):
Well, we just had a great, great suggestion from one
of our talkback of listeners as to how to deal
with gas prices.

Speaker 2 (01:02:22):
Let's hear this.

Speaker 15 (01:02:23):
How about we have a gas station called the Rod
and Great gas station.

Speaker 10 (01:02:29):
You guys sell the gas.

Speaker 19 (01:02:31):
For really cheap, and then we don't have to pay
high prices and everybody can come and support you.

Speaker 1 (01:02:36):
Well, what do we have to pay? Well, if we
have to pay a higher price for.

Speaker 2 (01:02:40):
You take the formula that all of America is doing
and Filmore is doing. You come in at the low
price for the gas. Compete, you come down. We do
it the way it's supposed, the way it's doing being
done everywhere else. Guess what everybody comes to our gas station,
and then what the other at people have do? They
have to come down from their ceiling to try and
even challenge us. Let's let let the games begin. I say,

(01:03:02):
let's let's go raise some venture capital. I'm ready for
the round and Greg gas station way gas ought to
be sold rang gas. That's right, we can do this.

Speaker 1 (01:03:10):
You know who we could compete with?

Speaker 3 (01:03:12):
Who?

Speaker 1 (01:03:12):
BUCkies?

Speaker 2 (01:03:13):
Oh there you go.

Speaker 1 (01:03:14):
See we get seventy five pumps the way BUCkies does
have this massive convenience store there we go.

Speaker 2 (01:03:21):
Man, there's a in the southwest pennsylvani area. There's a
shot a convenience store called Sheets. It's very much like
it's very much like like Fraverick. But yeah, but the food, like,
the food's getting better at these places. It's food.

Speaker 1 (01:03:32):
Ve will you eat there at Maverick all the time.

Speaker 2 (01:03:34):
I hate myself for how much I go to Maverick. Yeah,
I love the food there. Food venions.

Speaker 1 (01:03:39):
Man, Well, we blame a certain person introducing us.

Speaker 2 (01:03:43):
I know there is a certain person the bundle.

Speaker 1 (01:03:46):
Who bragged about bundles, and we went and had one ones.
I kind of went, but you your food, you may
you fell in love that thing.

Speaker 2 (01:03:55):
There's nowhere else I'd rather go.

Speaker 1 (01:03:56):
If you've never had a bundle at Maverick, check it out.

Speaker 2 (01:04:00):
The breakfast ones are great, the lunch ones are great,
and they make it. They make it. Look I'm mad
at them. I don't want to promote their good food
because I'm mad that they're they're just gouging me on
the gas. I don't even want to. I feel dirty
saying how good the food is. We need let's go
back to we need a Ronning Great gas station because
we'll have good food.

Speaker 1 (01:04:17):
Kind of like that. Oh, by the way, we need
to break and we'll come back with more of the comments.
Does Donald Trump deserve to go to Heaven?

Speaker 2 (01:04:25):
I think he's in the running. I think I'm not
Saint Peter. I'm not at the Pearly Gates man. I'm
thinking you.

Speaker 1 (01:04:31):
Yeah, well, he was. He was on Fox News this
morning and he talked about his chances was going to heaven.

Speaker 2 (01:04:36):
I want to try and get to heaven if possible,
I'm hearing.

Speaker 3 (01:04:38):
I'm not doing well. I am really at the bottom
of the totem poll.

Speaker 4 (01:04:43):
If I can't get to heaven, this will be one
of the.

Speaker 1 (01:04:45):
Reasons get to have n He's solving a lot of
conflicts around this world, conflicts that a lot of people
knew about and ignored and most of us didn't know about.

Speaker 2 (01:04:54):
He's he's forging peace. It's pretty impressive.

Speaker 3 (01:04:57):
Yeah.

Speaker 1 (01:04:59):
Well, he came out today on the same show and
kind of outed Sean Hannity and and Ainsley Earhart. Did
he Yeah, he kind of said, you know, hey, two
lovely young couples and they're very private. Sean doesn't talk
about this, and neither does Angley, but he talked about
it on some friends.

Speaker 2 (01:05:14):
Oops.

Speaker 1 (01:05:15):
Oops, they're getting married sooner or later.

Speaker 2 (01:05:17):
Yeah, that's what I hear. Yeah, so they were together
when they came out when Seawan, well, he was.

Speaker 1 (01:05:23):
Helping your seller books. She, by the way, is a lovely,
lovely lady.

Speaker 2 (01:05:27):
Yeah, you know all them, you've known, You've met Sean forever.

Speaker 1 (01:05:30):
I've known Sean for a long time. Ainsley is just
a sweetheart.

Speaker 3 (01:05:33):
Of a person.

Speaker 2 (01:05:34):
Yeah, I don't know like you do, So I can't
speak from they appear to be. I mean Sean, I've
spoken with him, but again, you've known them for.

Speaker 1 (01:05:43):
Well you know Sean. Now are not Sean, but Glenn.
Glenn's been out here a lot. Now know Glenn very well.

Speaker 2 (01:05:47):
Well we're bfs. Yeah, we're totally we're totally tight. Yeah.
He came out here to do our show and then
decide to do his own show from here after he
you know, talk to us. Yeah, that's why. Yeah, he
wears our Roden Greg hat all the time.

Speaker 1 (01:05:59):
You can't care he didn't have it on last time.

Speaker 2 (01:06:01):
No he did, you just didn't see it. He wears
it NonStop off his head.

Speaker 1 (01:06:05):
Okay, all right, all right, more of your calls and
comments coming up here on the Rod and Greg Show
on this Tuesday right here on Utah's Talk Radio one
oh five nine k NRS.

Speaker 2 (01:06:14):
We get it's just a common sense, you know, audience
that comes from so many different walks of life that
just again, they'll they'll share their take, and it's I
have yet to hear one that I'm not like, yeah,
that's yeah, that's true.

Speaker 1 (01:06:27):
Well, one of the issues we brought up earlier, Greg,
was this tragic story out of Florida where a truck
driver who should not have been in this country to
begin with, but was given a CDL by the state
of California because it's this sanctuary estate, driving out of
Florida Turnpike yesterday, made a quick U turn duh on

(01:06:47):
a very busy road seconds before, and a van carrying
three people ran smack dab into that trailer and killed
all three of them. Yep, the driver got out and
almost showed I don't know if he was in a
state of shock or just didn't show any remorse for
this whatso wever.

Speaker 2 (01:07:04):
It was so cold, it almost felt like it was
on purpose. I mean, it just was so so emotionless
and did not care. It was chilling.

Speaker 1 (01:07:11):
Yeah, it was. And a lot of people are saying,
how on earth did he get a CDL. Well, is California,
Gavin Newsom? Let him have it.

Speaker 3 (01:07:19):
Well.

Speaker 1 (01:07:19):
Here are three of our talkback callers who were weighing
in on this and what they thought about this story.

Speaker 5 (01:07:25):
President Trump should put pressure on Gavin Newsom to attend
all the funeral services of the people involved in the
crash in Florida.

Speaker 4 (01:07:35):
I think that would send a very strong message.

Speaker 1 (01:07:40):
Yeah, would man Newsom would never show up. You got
the guts.

Speaker 2 (01:07:44):
They ought to put it in front of him so
he can decline the invitation, so that you know.

Speaker 1 (01:07:49):
We're so he can look like an idiot.

Speaker 3 (01:07:50):
Yeah.

Speaker 1 (01:07:50):
Here's another one of our talkbackers.

Speaker 22 (01:07:53):
Low bar for a commercial driver's license. You should try
to get one in a red state, Eat Utah. You'll
find out not mad. It's just because it's California. They
set the bar low. Don't mean the rest of the
nation is the same. The CDLs are regulated by the

(01:08:20):
Federal Transportation Commission.

Speaker 1 (01:08:22):
All right, And here's one more.

Speaker 23 (01:08:25):
I'm the director of a CDL school. I put the
accident completely at the fault of the Biden administration and
the state of California. He should never have been allowed
to stay here, much less gotten a CDL. We need
to get rid of CDL meal schools that just push
students through, and we need and at least in the
state of Utah, we need to pass bills like HB
five thirty five, which would give us a little bit

(01:08:46):
more oversight and regulation on the industry.

Speaker 1 (01:08:49):
Thanks.

Speaker 2 (01:08:50):
I love all those comments, every single one of them.
There's the political one with Gavin Newsom how he should
go to those funerals, but the one about that, you know,
where there's a high bar in red state, it's like
Utah in terms of your ability to get a CDL
And then the person who runs a school saying, yeah,
there's CDL mills. Okay, they're just pushing out those CDL
licenses irresponsibly. And I love it when you hear an

(01:09:12):
industry that says, we want to police ourselves. We want
to we want to make high standards, high bars. That's
what we do. This is that's a school. Yeah, those
are those are important perspectives and I absolutely concur with them.

Speaker 3 (01:09:22):
All.

Speaker 1 (01:09:23):
You know, there has been I've seen numerous stories on
this over the last several weeks. Greg, there is a
real concern among some people who believe that these CDLs
are being given to drivers who can't read English or
speak English. So how do they how do they get
around the country, move around the country without being able

(01:09:44):
to read a sign or to speak English. I mean,
and there's a story today. Let's see if I can
find in my stack and stuff. It is a federal agency, Greg,
who is now requiring English the only I think it's
the Department of Health and Human Services. I think every
form will in English. They won't be in multiple languages anymore.
And they're saying everything English should be. I don't know why.

(01:10:07):
It is the official language of the United States and
every government form should be in English only. I agree,
that's my opinion.

Speaker 2 (01:10:14):
I agree. Well, we reported that this individual that caused
this fatal accident could only identify one out of four
freeway signs, and only he could answer two of the
twelve questions correctly that were reading or English comprehension questions.
It clearly wasn't wasn't qualified to be driving that truck
in any way, wasn't wasn't legally allowed to be in

(01:10:37):
the country wasn't qualified to drive that truck. And yet
I guess it's the RESCI prosody that allows for those
CDLs that have a low bar in California to drive
in all fifty states forty eight you know, continental states,
and what I mean, then you have states like Utah
that have a high bar and make sure that these

(01:10:57):
drivers are able to do it all. It seems dispair
it I if the federal government, and it makes sense
that that are we have a department that oversees it all.
Why they're not making that a more higher bar, higher bars,
you say, and more uniform to the harder side. Now everyone,
if everyone says, well you can't find workers, let's try
it out, I think I don't. We don't. I don't

(01:11:18):
want truckers that don't know how to speak English and
can't recognize a freeway sign. So if we have a
workforce problem, we're gonna have to find a different way
to deal with it than than CDL mills out of California.

Speaker 1 (01:11:29):
That's true. That's true. I mean, and when you've got
you know, I admire big rig drivers. I mean those
guys are hauling it down the highway, you know. Always
my father years ago told me when when I was
learning how to drive. He said, always treat the big
grigs with respect. If they want to get into your lane,
let them get into your lane. You know, flash your

(01:11:50):
lights when there's enough room, and they always appreciate that.
We have a lot of truckers who listen to us
coming through the state at times, and you know they
will do everything they can to help you out. And
that's why I think we need to respect big truck drivers. Yeah,
and I've always wanted to drive one. Really, I think
it'd be fun, even if I just got a ride
in one for like a stretch from here to Vegas

(01:12:12):
and back. I think it was kind of fun.

Speaker 2 (01:12:13):
When I was a little kid, I used to love
the show BJ and the Bear and he was Greg Evigan.
He was a great BJ he was He's a truck driver,
wasn't And Bear was his chimpanzee companion. You remember this
and Bear? What a silly show, silly? It was awesome.
I loved BJ.

Speaker 3 (01:12:31):
And the Bear.

Speaker 1 (01:12:31):
What a silly show.

Speaker 2 (01:12:33):
It was great. That was I wanted to be a
truck driver at that age.

Speaker 1 (01:12:36):
Did you just because the kids want to be truck drivers?
At one point a.

Speaker 2 (01:12:40):
Lot of kids, not all kids. When that show was, you.

Speaker 1 (01:12:43):
Know, really hitting the j and the bear was out there.

Speaker 2 (01:12:47):
I even know that I can even think of the
theme song. I won't sing it, please don't know, but
it's a good song.

Speaker 1 (01:12:52):
Yeah, No, I I I've always thought the driving a
big rig. Those guys man, they haul down the freeway.
I don't know how they do it. And they can
maneuver those things. I see them back into places where
they're unloading. That's that's how they get that truck in there. Wow,
that takes some talent. It does allen that I do
not have.

Speaker 2 (01:13:09):
By the way, No, it's uh and and again it's
a profession that's serious. And I just can't believe that California,
as big of a state as it is, is just
letting those CDL mills let anybody behind the wheel with
a license. It's it's pretty scary.

Speaker 3 (01:13:24):
All right.

Speaker 1 (01:13:25):
Let's get a few calls on this issue when it
comes to truck drivers. Jason is here in Salt Lake City. Jason,
how are you welcome to the Rod and Gregg Show.

Speaker 24 (01:13:33):
Hey, doing good. I've got something, I a little something
I can share about this.

Speaker 21 (01:13:37):
Uh.

Speaker 24 (01:13:38):
About a year ago, I was looking for looking at jobs,
not answer to CEO instructor AD. And there was a
guy here in Salt Lake. Turns out here's a retired
COOT officer and he was running a school, probably still is.
And he told me how short of a time that

(01:13:59):
it takes for them to get their CDO And I said, well,
that's pretty well, that's quite quite a short time. And
I said, how's that work. He said, well, it's not
up to me to teach them how to drive. It's
up to me to teach them how to pass the
test wow and get their license.

Speaker 3 (01:14:14):
Wow.

Speaker 24 (01:14:15):
It's up to it's up to the next employer to
put them through their internal school or teach them how
to drive. I was like, eh, and none of them.
None of this sounded good back then, but things that
are happening now just brought that up. So we've got
we've got local people that just turning people out getting

(01:14:36):
them a license, and and what if they don't go
to a place that offers a class thing, guess what
they're learning on the job.

Speaker 1 (01:14:44):
Yeah, yeah, Jason, we had a CDL trainer leave us
a talkback message saying, hey, you got to be careful
out there. That's for sure. Let's go to Scott in
Harriman tonight here on the Rod and Greg Show.

Speaker 25 (01:14:54):
Hi, Scott, how you doing right?

Speaker 1 (01:14:57):
We're doing well, thank you.

Speaker 25 (01:15:00):
I'm a certified medical examiner. And there is a standard
that they have to be able to speak of fourth
grade English to maintain or even receive a medical card.
And as pertaining to California, the FMCSA made it that
the states, you cannot turn it into the states your
medical card, it has to come through the FMCSA, and

(01:15:21):
California is one of thirteen states that refuses to follow that.
What the people that gave them the medical card is
they should sue the medical examiner who gave him the
medical card because it's not even a legal medical card
to getting even to a CDL license.

Speaker 1 (01:15:36):
Wow, So California is what, what'd you say? One of
thirteen states?

Speaker 25 (01:15:41):
They're gone, one of thirteen states that are refusing to
receive their medical cards through the FMCSA because they want
to do it. But you know, you've got the chiropractors,
You've got the nurse practitioners, the doctors. There was a
standardized test to be a certified medical examiner and it
was supposed to bring everybody down to the same level

(01:16:02):
following all the regulations, and when they went through and
skewed their people a couple of years ago, they found
out that a lot of the certified medical examiners were
giving their number out and just medical people were giving
medical cards under their number where that wasn't legal either.

Speaker 3 (01:16:17):
Wow.

Speaker 1 (01:16:17):
Wow, only in California in other states, right, Greg.

Speaker 2 (01:16:20):
Well, yeah, it's it's it's certainly not meant to raise
the bar. Those thirtain states aren't trying to separate themselves
by by raising the bar. It's actually to accommodate illegals.
I mean, you had you had a state senator from
uh from California that said, we have to redistrict because
we got a million and a half people that aren't
going to be counted, that potentially wouldn't be counted in
the census if they don't count illegals one and a

(01:16:41):
half million that they're omitting out loud, Yeah, yeah, yeah.

Speaker 1 (01:16:46):
All right, more coming up? What are you saying any Ray?
I'm sorry, good Tug. All right, all right, let me
refresh this and we'll play another talk back. Okay, go
ahead and play Ray.

Speaker 20 (01:16:58):
Yeah, I think you guys just hit the Neil on
the head with these illegal aliens that are coming here
and they don't understand or they can't speak English. As
a retired trooper, I dealt with more crashes than I
could even count of illegal aliens were here driving trucks
and I had to have a translator.

Speaker 1 (01:17:16):
To communicate with them.

Speaker 20 (01:17:17):
That's no idea what the signs said, had no idea
what the laws were. But we're putting them eighty thousand
pound trucks and send them down our highways makes no sense.

Speaker 1 (01:17:24):
It should be changed. Yeah, I should be changed.

Speaker 2 (01:17:27):
Do you hear that's a retired trooper. You want to
talk about someone who knows these are are Utah freeways.
Very well, that's a that's a chilling message and an
important one for us to know and to hear. But
and so thank you for sharing that. But that's well,
that's exactly what happened in Florida. That would he just
described if you if you pull someone over and you
need a translate, this person is not does not understand

(01:17:48):
what's going on. He don't understand it.

Speaker 1 (01:17:50):
Well, hey, obviously he missed his turn off, right this
this this truck driver in Florida, And so well, I'll
just turn around now and look what happened. Three people
are dead as a result.

Speaker 3 (01:18:00):
That.

Speaker 1 (01:18:00):
All right, more coming up, final segment of The Rodd
and Greg Show on Utah's Talk Radio one oh five
nine k NRS. Let's go back to the phones. We
go to Barrett in leyton tonight. Barrett, how are you
welcome to the Rod and Greg Show.

Speaker 21 (01:18:14):
Hey, I'm doing great, appreciate you guys, love your show.
Thank You's piece to Russ Rimbaugh. Yes, we just listen
to him a lot too. I just got two points
i want to make for you real quick. Two things
that I've witnessed personally. Number one is these deal llegals
under the Biden administration. I've witnessed them just right there

(01:18:35):
in Ogon and at the ATMs, at the ATMs with
those debit cards that were given to them. They didn't
speak a look at English. You know, I speak some Spanish,
so I speaking Spanish to them, trying to help them out.

Speaker 26 (01:18:49):
And they told me exactly how they got the card,
how they crossed over. They told me everything. And then
the next point I'm gonna make. So they're already here,
they're all over you. The next point I'm gonna make
it is the door dashers. They don't speak any English.
So if Utah needs to know that, if you want
to support these illegals, a lot of them are working

(01:19:10):
as door dashers. I've witnessed it in person. I've talked
to a few of them in Spanish, and what they
do is they'll just go up and show the manager
the store the phone and use use an app for
for speaking, and they'll just you know, translate it and
show it to the person. They don't speak any English

(01:19:30):
at all. And if you want to not support them,
I would say, don't do that, or I should actually
be ready for them, you know what.

Speaker 1 (01:19:38):
Yeah, yeah, you're right, very good, obxactly right.

Speaker 2 (01:19:41):
Yeah. Let's go to Jay. Thank you for the call.
Let's go to Jay and Springville. Jay, welcome to the show.

Speaker 21 (01:19:48):
How you doing great?

Speaker 4 (01:19:49):
Yeah, real quick.

Speaker 27 (01:19:51):
I'm a carrier manager and I manage these a small
little trucking company like one driver. And the thing that
really upsets me is when you have the great key
carriers and they have these empty trucks and they go
out and then and they find these foreign drivers. They're
not qualified to run these run these trucks, and they
feel that they feeling with these trucks you have, with
this this huge independent trucking industry, are these people that

(01:20:15):
drive their own trucks that are being run over? And
it really really bothers me when they say that there's
a shorty when that's an actual, it's not a fact.
The real thing is you have plenty, plenty of independent
drivers out there willing to take freight right now. The
rejection rates six percent, So I mean there's not there's
not that much freight out there that's being being uh
that's out there right now. So when I see instances

(01:20:37):
like this where you have an unqualified driver out there
and that these big carriers are hiring, are really obsessed me.

Speaker 1 (01:20:43):
I don't blame you.

Speaker 2 (01:20:44):
What a revelation that is is six percent. That means
that when you say the driver like that, that there's
a there's a ready, ready to go independent driver that's
not getting that job. They're losing that opportunity. That is Jaye,
thank you for the for that insight. I's that I
have heard that so often we don't have enough, we
don't have enough drivers and they and they're looking for work,

(01:21:06):
they're looking for these opportunities to hall and they're getting
replaced by the those that shouldn't be doing it at all.

Speaker 1 (01:21:12):
In the independent truckers, according to Jay, are all out there.
They're all looking for work to go, ready to step
up and go there. You know, we talked about the
fact that there's a shortage of drivers. I hear I
remember hearing stories from trucking companies offering drivers one hundred
thousand dollars a year and more because they couldn't get them. Well,
this independent trucker said, not quite the story.

Speaker 2 (01:21:31):
You know, this is what democrats have been saying this
all along about, Oh, who's going to do all the
work that we need to be done. You close those borders,
you stop illegal activity, and let's see American grid.

Speaker 1 (01:21:39):
Oh they're all right. Thanks for joining us today, As
we say each and every night, head up, shoulders back.
May God bless you and your family. Thanks for joining us.
We'll talk to you tomorrow. Tor, have a good night.

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