The Rod and Greg Show: Trump's Battle with the Smithsonian; Should Utah Require Proof of Citizenship to Vote?

Episode Transcript
Available transcripts are automatically generated. Complete accuracy is not guaranteed.
Speaker 1 (00:00):
I'm very proud of it. I'm still giddy the whole thing.

Speaker 2 (00:02):
Ice showed up at our door today. I think he's
the Navy. I don't know. Okay, I showed up at
our door today. Not sure why, but they showed up
at our front door.

Speaker 1 (00:13):
Is that French?

Speaker 3 (00:14):
What is it?

Speaker 2 (00:15):
We're looking for you? It's as French as French can be.
Maybe they were for you. No, they were looking for you.

Speaker 1 (00:21):
Man.

Speaker 2 (00:22):
I showed up at our door today. But it was
a gentleman who worked for Ice, very nice man, who
brought us.

Speaker 1 (00:28):
A gift, Lieutenant Commander Gunter Gunter. And he was in
I thought he was He looked like this man looked
like he just came right from a fighter school himself
or the Navy. The jump, the blue you know, the
uniform and everything.

Speaker 2 (00:41):
Does the Navy operate out on the Great Silt Lake
and we don't know?

Speaker 3 (00:44):
No.

Speaker 1 (00:45):
So he's he travels, he's been at the bases, and
he was at the United States Navy Fighter Weapons School.
Is a listener to the program, And thought, you know
this rodden Greg They keep talking about being a wingman,
goose Maverick top gun. He got us, folks, he got
us official United States Navy Fighter Weapons School top Gun mugs.

(01:05):
I am so proud of this smug. It says top gun.
It says it's from the it's from the school itself.
It sits here now at our world headquarters, here at
the at the Roddy Greg Show. And now we are officials.
I think he, you know, he he had the ability
to say we are officially. Uh, I'm officially your wing man,
and it's a it's the day is now.

Speaker 2 (01:26):
We're both we're both top gun.

Speaker 1 (01:27):
Yeah, we're topn I got the mug. Any other way
we must be top gun.

Speaker 2 (01:33):
That's great. And we want to thank uh Commander Gunter
for coming by and giving us those cups. We love
our listns. Yes, we're great, great lists. It's fun, a
lot of fun. Have we got a lot to talk
about today here in a minute. The Democratic Party is
in a lot of trouble. We're going to get into that.
We're also going to be talking about Donald Trump and
something that you witnessed a few weeks ago, but his

(01:55):
efforts to clean up the smith Sonian Institute and all
the museums as we get ready to celebrate two fifty
next year, we'll talk about that we'll talk about voter registration.
We've got a lot of other things to talk about
today as well, and we invite you to be a
part of it, as we do each other every day.
To join our conversation eighty eight eight five seven eight
zero one zero. Cell phone dial pound two fifty and

(02:17):
say hey Rod, or download the iHeartRadio app and make
sure you put in Canterest dot com and you'll be
able to make a comment on our talkback line. And
we got bombarded yesterday.

Speaker 1 (02:28):
It was beautiful. We had so many great comments yesterday.
We talked about these insane high gas prices in Utah.
While you know, the Trump administration is rightly bragging or
pointing out that they're seeing gas prices go down over
eleven percent since January, we're not feeling it here and
so we all kind of got it off our chests collectively.
And I think, look, I've got a lot of friends

(02:48):
that are still public servants that are at the legislature
and they listen to the show, and I think that,
I really think, folks, if we get involved and we
start speaking up, I think we could see something done
about it. Because I'm telling you, Utah's is a bubble here,
and it's not the free market fighting as you see
gasoline prices and convenience stores do around the rest of

(03:08):
the country.

Speaker 2 (03:08):
Yeah, and lawmakers do respond to your phone calls. Especially
in a state like the state of Utah, you have
more direct contact with a local lawmaker. Call your state
legislator and say, hey, what's being done about the high
gas prices.

Speaker 1 (03:21):
You would be amazed how infrequently lawmakers here from actual constituents.
You would know special interest groups are lobbyists.

Speaker 3 (03:28):
They hear it.

Speaker 1 (03:28):
And that's not a bad thing. I mean that everything's game.
But if you take the time, because it isn't so common,
I think you I think you'll get a reply.

Speaker 2 (03:37):
Yeah. Well, the story everybody is talking about today is
this New York Times story out today about the Democratic Party. Now,
you and I have done a lot of comment, a
lot of discussion. We've had people on the on the
show talking about that, how much trouble the Democratic Party
is in yep, yeh, And they're in a lot of it.
I don't want to interrupt them.

Speaker 1 (03:58):
You know, when they're in a hole and they're digging,
who are we to say to stop digging?

Speaker 2 (04:02):
Yeah, lem digging? Yeah, Well, keep digging. Well, this story
today that everybody is talking about. The story is about
voter registration. The Democratic Party, according to the New York Times,
is hemorrhaging voters long before they even go to the polls.
Of the thirty states that track voter registration by political party,
Democrats lost ground to Republicans in every single one of

(04:25):
them between twenty twenty and twenty twenty four, and often
not by just a little, but by a lot. According
to the story goes on to say that the four
year swing towards the Republicans adds up to get this
to four point five million voters, a deep political hole that,
according to this story, could take Democrats years to climb

(04:47):
out of.

Speaker 1 (04:48):
Well, I don't want to climbing out of the hole.
I want to keep digging it. So they don't want
to need them climb, just keep doing it. But honestly,
some of the bellweathers that you can tell that that
story is completely true and that common sense Americans don't
recognize the Democrat Party, don't want to be a part
of it. This a major announcement from bed Bath and Beyond,
and it's very simple. We it starts out, we will

(05:10):
not open or operate retail stores in California. This is
this isn't political. H this isn't about politics. It's about reality.
California has created one of the most overregulated, expensive and
risky environments for a business in America. It's a system
that makes it harder to employ people, harder to keep
doors open, and harder to deliver value to customers. They're

(05:32):
not making it political, he says, it's reality. Well, let
me tell you what the reality in California is. It's
run by Democrats. And that's your reality. And that's why
Bed Bath and Beyond is not even going to look
at one of the largest state. It is the largest
state in this country. They're not going to go there
to the entire state. It's off it's off limits because
it's just too hard. It is so anti free market.

Speaker 2 (05:53):
Business, anti free market. You're right. And then on top
of that, today you have the CEO of Target, which
is based in Minnesota, by the way, stepping down. Why
is he stepping down? Sales have gone why because of
their woke approach to almost everything in the market.

Speaker 1 (06:07):
That's right. So you know, the people are responding. Consumers
are responding with their their pocketbooks and and they don't
know how to pivot away from it. They got the
they got the Zoolander in New York City that's running.
He's a he's a he's a nightmare. I mean, tell
me who the leader in the Democrat Party is. There
just isn't one. In fact, some of the things that
that Gavin Newsom's doing, he can't even win over Morning

(06:30):
Joe in the Morning. He's trying to be edgy and
trying to be a Trump. He doesn't know what he
wants to be and he's missed again.

Speaker 2 (06:37):
Yeah, this is Joe Scarborough talking about Gavin Newsom on
the show today.

Speaker 4 (06:41):
Donald Trump's not on the ballot in twenty six, He's
not on the ballot in twenty eight. Why try to
drag Muhammad Ali in the rain when you got Chuck Webner,
Sandy Bright the leader. Webner's a bleeder, He's a bleeder.

Speaker 2 (06:59):
You want him? So why are you going I'm after
dond No, you're not.

Speaker 1 (07:03):
You're not running against Donald Trump.

Speaker 4 (07:07):
Go after Tweedledee or tweedledm you know, Chuck Webler, I
believe it, Go after him.

Speaker 2 (07:14):
Now you're a boxing van. Chuck Webner got the daylights
beat out of them Ye by Mohammad Ali.

Speaker 1 (07:20):
So Lester Stallone. It was the inspiration for the movie
Rocky Actually that's why, that's how he wrote the screen.

Speaker 2 (07:26):
Here you have Newsom parading greg everything Donald Trump has done.
He's out there, he's posting these stupid memes. I don't
know what he's seeking to accompany.

Speaker 1 (07:35):
And then they just want to be no, they just
want to be edgy. So they got to picture these
these leftists. They're trying to make these edgy memes. But
they're so offensive. But again I don't want to interrupt them.
They've got a picture of a Gavin Newsom with the
bandage across his ears if he were shot. Does he
wear it better than Trump? What do you think? It's
a it's a terrible it's not funny. They have the

(07:55):
picture of when they're mocking the picture of when Trump
said fight after he'd been shot in fight fight and
he's holding up heinz ketchup and the Secret Service people
around him are laughing their heads off. Again, so tasteless
and so wrong. But just if this is you, please
just keep being you. Just let us know who you are.
You're doing it. You're doing a great job. I don't

(08:16):
want to interrupt that. You just want to show us
who you are. You take these moments of attempted assassination
of a president and running for real, running for president,
and you think this is funny. I'm glad. I'm glad
to know. I'm glad to know that's humor.

Speaker 2 (08:29):
Keep it up, folks, keep it up, all right. When
we come back the president, he's going after the Smithsonian
museums and what's going on in Washington. Greg has seen
an example of that. We'll talk about that with Lisbee
coming up next right here on the Wingman Wednesday edition
of The Rotting and Greg Show and Utah's Talk Radio
one oh five nine can rass and they're going crazy
accusing the president of trying to change the narrative at

(08:51):
various museums in the nation.

Speaker 1 (08:52):
Chemistry change history, changing history. Of course, Nazi Germany changed
our history.

Speaker 2 (08:57):
He has seen the same thing that you saw a
couple of weeks ago when you were back there, the
messaging at the Smithsonian and the museums. I didn't realize
they have twenty one museums in the nation's capital, around
the country, but you found out that the message there
is very negative about American history, pointing out all the
bad things that we've done and nothing positive that we've

(09:18):
done in this country.

Speaker 1 (09:19):
Absolutely. In fact, here's a life hack. If you're going
to go into that town, read if it's a memorial,
anything engraved in stone, marble, read anything on a placard,
Just keep going. Don't even look at it. That's my advice.

Speaker 2 (09:31):
Well, Scott Jennings on CNN last night, I talked about
what the President is trying to do.

Speaker 5 (09:35):
I think what he's asking is, in our museums, what
defines us? Are we going to be defined by the
worst moment, or the worst institution, or the worst mistake
we ever made, or are we going to be defined
by what we've done moving forward to get over it
and to become the greatest nation on the earth. My

(09:56):
belief is that he wants to look at these museums
not because he wants to do away with the idea
that slavery occurred, but that he wants to ask a
very simple question, are we going to present ourselves as
being exceptional or not? And I think he believes there
is an effort by some to continue to try to
define us from our worst moment instead to try to

(10:19):
focus and define us based on our best moments, which
started when we eradicated slavery and began to move forward
as the light.

Speaker 2 (10:26):
Of the world. Fox Soon's contributor Liz Peak joining us
on our Newsmaker line right now. Liz, do you agree
with Scott Drennings that the president is simply trying to
accentuate the positive and tone down the negative?

Speaker 6 (10:36):
Well, because that just upsets the liberal narrative that America
is responsible for all the bad things in the world
and none of the good things. And obviously what you
have is just an incredible bias. I wrote recently about
the Smithsonian. President Trump wants the Smithsonian as we get
closer to the two hundred and fiftieth anniversary this signing

(10:59):
of the deck Creation of Independence to celebrate our nation.
It doesn't mean, by the way, that you can't acknowledge
that there are slavery years which were obviously terrible. But
then let's talk about the fact that so many people
went to war to free the slaves. I mean, that
seems like a pretty balanced presentation. But I have to

(11:20):
say I am pretty inured to the whole left wing
narrative and all the dei stuff that rolled out under
President Biden, and people should remember that was one of
his first executive orders was that every single agency of
the federal government had to become an agent for diversity, equity,

(11:40):
and inclusion. That's not a right wing talking point. That
is something that actually he mandated, and every agency took
it seriously, perhaps none more than our nation's great museums.
The Smithsonian is twenty one museums and also the National Zoo.
I said, as I started saying, I'm pretty inured to

(12:04):
reading stuff that offends me, but I rarely see something
that really shocks me. And when I went to investigate
the Smithsonian to see what all the fuss was about,
of course, the first thing you look at is the
mission statement, and the mission statement the museum says, covering
all twenty one museums is to quote explore the history

(12:26):
and legacy of race and racism in the United States
and globally. That is literally their mission statement. The purpose
statement is to increase the diffuse and diffusion of knowledge
about the history and legacy of racism while building pathways
towards some more equitable shared value. I mean, that's a
pretty extraordinary thing to kind of wipe out all the

(12:48):
prior mission statements, which had to do with expanding our knowledge,
talking about our country, et cetera. But this is what
has come down to. And I got to say, I
think President Trump is one hundred percent correct to be
outraged by this and one hundred percent right in trying
to correct it, particularly at a time when we're celebrating

(13:08):
our nation's past. I mean, there are a lot of
things our country has done right, like combating fascism in
World War Two and opposing the Soviet Union and basically
winning the Cold War, all kinds of things that have
lifted humanity, improved the lives of tens of millions of people,
and some of that, you know, some of that should

(13:30):
feature in our in our museums.

Speaker 1 (13:32):
It's ridiculous, you know, Liz. I was so happy to
see you defend the president's you know, opinion and post
that he wants to clean this up and get this right.
And what you said is exactly right. And as Rod mentioned,
I was back. My son did an internship in DC,
so we were there to pick him up come back home.
But he's shown us Capitol Hill like he ran the place,
which I loved. But we went as a family to

(13:53):
the Smithsonian, And to your exact point, they got a
jersey of Roger Staubach, your famous high trophy winning quarterback
for the Cowboys, and the robe of Muhammad Ali. And
the only thing you should know, according to the placard,
was but one supported and served the war, and one
opposed and lost all his belts because he opposed the
Vietnam War. And that is what you need to know
about those two, I mean really yeah. And then Barnum

(14:16):
and Bailey circus. Did you know that the only reason
it's popular in America was because we were colonialists and
we just wanted to take over the world, So we
really love a circus that would let us think we're
doing that. I thought it was the pure weet that
the elephant did. I love the animals as a kid.
I give those examples to say this. I'm watching all
these young people and they're reading these placards, and I'm
just thinking to myself, it's just a crime, But this

(14:38):
is what they're taking from this nation. Will the president,
in your mind, be able to put a hard reset
on this and show our history in its grandeur, in
its uniqueness in this world, in human history? Is there
a way to do this in the time that he has.

Speaker 6 (14:54):
I surely hope. So let's hope he has four years
to get this done. First of all, frankly, he's got
to get rid of the top guy who is a
very race conscious first blackhead of the Smithsonian. Clearly he
has taken as his mandate to put racism at the
center of every exhibition, everything they do. I mean, it's

(15:15):
really pretty extraordinary. And I went through some examples and
by the way, one of the things and I should
have called the museum on this because I'd love to
hear their explanation.

Speaker 1 (15:25):
Viewership is down.

Speaker 7 (15:26):
I mean the number of visitors.

Speaker 6 (15:28):
It was forty million people in two thousand and two
and last year it was sixteen point eight million. So
something's not working, right. I mean, maybe people don't really
want to have all this indoctrination fed to their kids,
because that is the biggest challenge. That is the biggest
scary thing to me, is that our kids are going

(15:50):
to grow up, by the way, in an AI dominated
knowledge world where most of the stuff that's getting into
the AI database is pretty left wing. I mean, if
you're downloading the New York Times and even Franklin' sorry
to say, the Wall Street Journal and all of the
Washington Posts and LA Times and all these resources. Guess

(16:13):
what is going to come up when you say, tell
me about Ronald Reagan. It's probably not going to be
very flattering, right, And I think people need to become
extremely alert to the danger of turning over of educating
our kids not only the left wing museums and schools,
but also to the knowledge that's going to come to

(16:34):
them when they push the button on chat GBT. And
do you know, by the way, how many people are
now using CHATGBT on a regular basis. This will blow
your mind. And this is why this is so incredibly
an important topic. Seven hundred million people here. There has
never no there has never been a faster updake on

(16:55):
a new technology. And by the way, I wrote many
months ago about thank God for Elon Musk on many fronts,
but also the fact that he's creating Grock, and I
hope that Elon Musk spends a little time trying to
figure out how to make grock a true, a more
truthful teller of for example, our nation's history than chat GBT,

(17:17):
which if it's if it's coming from Google and so forth.
You know, it's not going to be.

Speaker 2 (17:22):
Very good freightending numbers. Liz Peek, Fox News contributor, joining
us on the Roden greg Show. More coming up on
talk radio one oh five nine. Ken r s the
President really star. He does this all the time, stirs
up a discussion, and he did this week when he
said we should we should get rid of mail in
voting for federal elections. Let's just get rid of it,

(17:42):
something I agree with. I'm really honest. Now a Utah
lawmaker is pushing or thinking about legislation UH to make
sure that non citizens can't vote in state elections and
joining us on our Newsmaker liners Representative Krriyan Lizzabye uh
Kerrian the headline say you're more this legislation. Where are
you in this process right now?

Speaker 8 (18:03):
Oh?

Speaker 9 (18:04):
Thank you? Well, So I've had conversations. I think there's
conversations amongst House and Senate leadership and the governors with
regards to whether you know, we hear this in a
special session. And I think those are fruitful conversations to
have right now. And I'm just continue I presented on
Monday at an immigration forum where we were discussing issues

(18:28):
across the United States but also specific to Utah, and
this came up. I presented on on you know, the
concerns around the number required in code, and then the
number of audits that are happening on our voter registration roles,
the low number of actual and registrants that are checked

(18:51):
every year, and some of the concerns that have come
to me voluntarily from members of the community as I've
started to work on this.

Speaker 1 (19:02):
Representative I will tell you that we all know that's
the law of the land that you have to be
a registered citizen to vote, at least in federal elections.
But I thought we did this. I didn't know that
I was that I registered to vote way back when
without proving my citizenship. Maybe share with our listeners where
is the confusion been, Where is the confusion and how
would it be that people that are not legal residents

(19:24):
have been able to successfully register to vote?

Speaker 9 (19:28):
Well, thank you, there's a there's some issues with motor voter,
which is the program where you go and get your
driver's license, you check a box I want to register
to vote. You sign that you auld test that you're
a citizen. And as you know, some non citizens are
have been granted Social Security numbers quite a few, and

(19:51):
in the state of Utah, sixty six five hundred of
those individuals who are non citizens with a social Security
number have a real ID complet client driver's license. Thirty
three point five thousand have the DPC, the driver Privileged Card,
which is a non real ID compliant no Social Security

(20:13):
number associated. But if somebody checks the box as they're
going through the form and they say I want to
register to vote, and there's specific information on the form,
those individuals are registered to vote with no questions asked
and no citizenship documentation at the DLD. Now, if I'm

(20:37):
a citizen, you remember, and I think it was twenty
ten when the real ID bill passed. It could have
been later actually now that I think of it. But
when we went through that cycle where everybody had to
bring in documentation to get their driver license again, do
you recall having to do that in the last fifteen years.

Speaker 1 (21:00):
I do remember renewing my license and I think I
had to bring my verse to be it.

Speaker 9 (21:04):
So I think, yeah, so that process happened, and so
real ID compliant license holders who are citizens and have
provided that documentation are fine. Now what we know is
that a little over ninety percent of people that are
on the voter rolls have a real ID compliant license.
What we don't know is how many of those individuals

(21:26):
are non citizens or pieces of mail and a voter
registration form into the clerk's office, or who registered online
and used two pieces of mail for registration purposes, and
then the internal policy is to treat that signature on
the form as proof of citizenship. We don't know how

(21:48):
many of those people are actually on the voter rolls.
I've asked for the data, I've not received it yet,
and so and I'm being told that actually even our
election officials don't know because our system is hard to
search for that information. Apparently, so obviously we have an issue.

(22:12):
There's a way to fix it. Four states have passed
legislation to fixed it. I'm hoping you Tall will be
the fifth.

Speaker 2 (22:18):
Is just this just another step representative and ensuring election
integrity in this state? I mean, you know, the president
has now we even talked about getting away with mail
and voting on federal elections. With what you're trying to do,
Is this just another step to try and ensure election
integrity or voter integrity? I should say during elections, is
that what this is all about.

Speaker 9 (22:40):
So yes, So what this does is it just creates
a bifurcated voter role. Now, I will say that there
is one state who has both, who has citizenship documentation
requirement for both federal and state elections. In so far
they have succeeded in avoiding challenge to their policy. May
be challenged eventually. But what this does is it says, look,

(23:04):
if we don't have citizenship documentation on files there aside
in the state of Utah, for you, you're voting only
in federal elections, but we're giving you six months to
come in and bring your documentation. We're notifying you and
giving you six months to bring your notification, which is
plenty of time, and then you'll be moved to federal only.

(23:25):
Everybody else who has citizenship documentation on file can vote,
same as always. Nothing changes. The other piece that I'm
looking at that I think maybe beneficial is some of
these people were registered to vote without knowing that they
were registered to vote by checking a box on a
form not realizing, and so do we. I think if

(23:47):
as long as nobody has committed fraud by providing false
identification in an attempt to register to vote, that we
should grant amnesty from prosecution for individuals who are current
on the Butter rules who are non citizens, so that
they do not get prosecuted for something that was.

Speaker 3 (24:06):
Not their fault.

Speaker 1 (24:07):
Representative, you mentioned maybe a special session item. I think
there might be one in September. So what you're hearing
maybe from your colleagues, is not yes or no, but
sooner or later is what the what the decision point
is is that right?

Speaker 3 (24:19):
Yes?

Speaker 2 (24:20):
Stay Representative Kerrie and Lisamby joining us on our news
Miker line. Do you have freaky dreams?

Speaker 1 (24:26):
Freaky's a weird word.

Speaker 2 (24:27):
Why would you say weird?

Speaker 10 (24:29):
Just weird?

Speaker 2 (24:29):
Dread? You have weird dreams?

Speaker 1 (24:31):
I had a I had a I had a dream
that was uh strange, this small. I can't remember what
it was, but I remember waking up going that's that
was odd?

Speaker 2 (24:40):
Was weird?

Speaker 3 (24:41):
Yeah?

Speaker 2 (24:42):
And I do too. I think I shared one with.

Speaker 1 (24:44):
Oh yeah, yeah, really, yours can get dangerous. Actually your dreams.
You are a tough guy in well, you fight in
your dreams too. That's a bad thing.

Speaker 2 (24:54):
Study already says people who eat cheese before they go
to bed will have weird dreams.

Speaker 1 (25:01):
Really, my grandmother said it was chocolate if you had
any chocolate before you went to bed.

Speaker 2 (25:05):
To this study says cheese. If you have cheese before
you go to bed, that may enhance your weird dreams,
making me more bizarre. And I have something.

Speaker 1 (25:17):
Are you eating cheese? No? Well, then you know home,
I I don't. I can't imagine what this.

Speaker 2 (25:21):
Will be like. I scare my wife. Dreams are so weird.

Speaker 1 (25:25):
I've heard about these dreams all right.

Speaker 2 (25:26):
Now we're number two coming up on Wingman's Wednesday. But
the rod and stay with us.

Speaker 10 (25:32):
Now.

Speaker 2 (25:32):
We had a nice visit today from a I showed
up at our front door.

Speaker 1 (25:38):
Yeah, and I thought he's a Navy guy. I think
he's a Navy.

Speaker 2 (25:41):
Well, I thought they were coming after you.

Speaker 1 (25:44):
Yeah, I'm huge. Okay, that's they're not looking at me.
You're saying America the key sheeter. Yeah, I've been looking
at you long time ever, wondering you know. Yeah.

Speaker 2 (25:58):
They brought us a nice cup Maverick for top gun.

Speaker 1 (26:03):
That brought us a top gun cat gambres a maverick.
I think it's from the convenience store. United States Navy
Fighter Weapons School, Lieutenant Commander Gunter, Gunter, Gunter. He was
there in his capacity, in his official capacities, and they
had these and he's a listener of the show, and
he said, you know, these guys, they keep calling it
Wingman Wednesday, but I don't know how official it is.

(26:25):
So we have the top Gun cup the United States
Navy Fighter Weapons School mug. Yeah, very nice in my hand.
I am a goose, Now I am goose.

Speaker 2 (26:37):
You're constantly bragging about how you love top Gun. Yes,
how you feel your goose. It's saved America, saved the world.
Actually we brought down the Soviet Union with that movie.
With that movie. Yes, well, we had a talk backed
listener call and has a rather unique challenge for you.

Speaker 3 (26:54):
Yeah.

Speaker 10 (26:54):
What I want to know is since Gregg's been old fish,
they recognized his top Gun Goose. I wonder if he
could do that rendition on the piano as.

Speaker 2 (27:08):
Well of hot Balls of Fire Scott from Scott.

Speaker 8 (27:19):
A man say you break my will a lot of thrills.

Speaker 2 (27:26):
I think it's great balls, great balls of fire, not
hot balls of fire. Yes, but but I'll believe this.
Will you accept that, ChIL, I will accept it.

Speaker 1 (27:34):
I will accept this challenge because the as he raised
in for me, this the location for that iconic scene
that we just heard the goose played from the piano
is still in existence. It's a specific beach, it's a
it's in San Diego. It's a it's a barbecue joint.
And I'm going to be in that area here soon,
and I am going to jump on that piano. If

(27:56):
they don't, if they don't have it roped off, or
even if they do, I'm going to jump on that piano.
I don't know how to play the piano, but I'm
gonna I'm gonna give it a little I'm gonna give
it a little try now, just because our listeners demand it.

Speaker 2 (28:07):
I will do it, as I recall, and Era will
correct me on this. In the movie, he was wearing
a cowboy hat.

Speaker 1 (28:15):
That's gonna be tough. Correct, Thank you.

Speaker 2 (28:18):
Cowboy hat on, because I'd love to see you.

Speaker 1 (28:21):
I think his son had the cowboy hat on.

Speaker 2 (28:22):
Is that what it was? Well, you know you could
wear a cowboy hat.

Speaker 1 (28:26):
You know. If I get Queen Bee there, she's blonde
like Meg Ryan was, maybe get hurt of yell too,
so we'll see.

Speaker 2 (28:33):
Oh I got to see this video. Yeah, that's good.
You can go on YouTube and learn how to play
the opening chords of Great Balls of Fire on piano.

Speaker 1 (28:42):
Get out you know what? Will you send it to me? Okay,
so you'll learn how to start this. This challenge is
starting to grow.

Speaker 2 (28:51):
You'll hear there.

Speaker 1 (28:52):
I have a piano at my home, like a euroal piano.
I have a piano my home. I don't play it,
but the children play. They took lessons.

Speaker 9 (28:58):
I don't.

Speaker 1 (28:59):
They don't play it, but they. I mean, my wife plays.

Speaker 2 (29:01):
She can play.

Speaker 1 (29:01):
That.

Speaker 2 (29:01):
To me, seems like a pretty easy thing to play.

Speaker 1 (29:03):
Not that I would know, but I have no idea.
But if there's a YouTube video, I'm really good at
YouTube videos to some extent. So but I you know what,
I challenge has been accepted.

Speaker 2 (29:13):
So you'll be in San Diego in a couple of weeks, yep,
and you're going to find this bar and go in
there and play Great Bulter Fire.

Speaker 3 (29:20):
Yep.

Speaker 1 (29:21):
I'm gonna do it because if the listeners want it.
I'm here for the listeners.

Speaker 3 (29:25):
That's it.

Speaker 1 (29:25):
That's what That's what I'm here for.

Speaker 2 (29:27):
You you will do anything.

Speaker 1 (29:29):
I'm goose and officially goofed because I got that mug
now that's true.

Speaker 2 (29:33):
That's true, all right. Donald Trump. We talked with Liz
Peak last hour about this. Donald Trump is trying to
change the approach that the Smithsonian Institute and all the
museums they have, the approach they take about celebrating America.
And Greg, you ran into this when you were back
there a couple of weeks ago. You saw nothing but
negativity within the message there is America is bad and

(29:58):
it has to be reminded about it each and every day.

Speaker 1 (30:01):
So the US and the US American History they'll do it.
In all the museums, they'll tell you everything has some
some moral failure, some racist origin. But yeah, in the
US History Museum, every piece, every everything historical about this
country is wrapped around a narrative of of of racism,
of moral failure. And it's it's it's sad you can't

(30:22):
look at some of these iconic moments in American history
or individuals and the only takeaway. And I look at
these young people that come reading this, and I'm thinking
to myself, it's just it's so sad that this is
what they're reading because it's not true. I you know,
everybody's getting embarrassed because I rant. Sometimes I'm taking pictures
of it going. You've got to be kidding me, And
I'm saying it loud because I want people to know

(30:44):
this is not true.

Speaker 9 (30:45):
This is not true.

Speaker 1 (30:47):
Roger Staubach's more than just a guy that you know
supported the Vietnam War, and Muhammad Ali is more than
the guy that didn't. There's more to their stories than
that anyway.

Speaker 2 (30:55):
Yeah, well, Roger Staubuck, Heisman Trophy winner, served in the
military for four years, made his commitment before he played football.
Muhammad Ali considered maybe the greatest boxer ever when you
agree he was, And yet they wanted to race. They
have to bring up the debate over the war, They
have to bring up the debate over slavery that you
know they I think America has had enough of race baters.

Speaker 1 (31:19):
And I'm not saying yet there all the time. I'm
not saying that these little facts aren't part of their biography.
But how do you leave out all the stuff that
made them who they are and only want to pit
the two against each other. There's one, it's a numbered things,
you see, and the whole topic is about the war.
It's not about and the people that opposed their support.
Versus what these two athletes did that made them so identifiable.

(31:42):
I just and then the circus. We all went to
the circus because we all embraced colonialism. But yeah, I
like the clown car. I don't know what that has
to do with colonialisms.

Speaker 3 (31:54):
Me.

Speaker 2 (31:54):
In about eleven months, we're going to spell it celebry
two hundred and fifty years. Why can't the museums that
we go to celebrate the greatness of America instead of
wanting to tear it down. I do not understand that.

Speaker 1 (32:06):
And the problem is that they do it from this
prism of what we know or think or feel today,
or the curators of this museum how they feel right now.
That takes away from all of the perspective or the
era in which those things happened. Yeah, and the perspective
from that time. You're supposed to go to a museum
to understand what the world was like or what was
going on in that time, not in today's narrative of

(32:29):
what was so bad about that time. I mean, I
just don't understand.

Speaker 2 (32:33):
America didn't invent slavery.

Speaker 1 (32:35):
No, five thousand years of human history. I hate to
break it to everybody, there's been this bad side going.

Speaker 2 (32:40):
On, and it was America that wanted to do something
about it. We fought a war, we lost six hundred
thousand men in that war over this issue. And we're
trying to do something about it. Yet it's constantly thrown
in our face. You're at fault, that's right. Yeah. So
I agree with what the president wants to do. Could
we have something positive said about this country? And here yeah,
and here's the trap they're trying. The leftists are trying

(33:03):
to say, he's trying to attempting to rewrite history.

Speaker 1 (33:05):
Yeah, okay, and that's what not. That's what the Nazis did.
Hitler did it, blah blah blah. They rewrote the history.
Those placards didn't say that. From day one. They've come
in and rewritten the descriptions of our historical moments the
way they have. And that's why I say, if it's
engraved in stone or marble, read it. If it's if
it's a placard, just don't even look at it because

(33:26):
it's blathered. Don't even read the recent stuff. Just the
stuff they've carved in stone is going to last the
you know, test of time.

Speaker 2 (33:32):
I'd like to hear from our listeners. I think we
would today how they feel about this effort to put
America in a better light in our museums than what
it is doing.

Speaker 1 (33:40):
We're an accurate light, I would say, not even better.
I'd just say accurate light eight.

Speaker 2 (33:44):
Eight eight five seven eight zero one zero triple eight
five seven eight zero one zero on your cell phone,
dial pound two to fifteen and say hey, Rod or
use our talk back line to leave us a message
about America. How should it be portrayed? As we head
into our two hundred and fiftieth year celebration that's coming up.

Speaker 1 (34:00):
I'm staring at you got the Fider Weapons School.

Speaker 2 (34:04):
Good mug, Yeah, top gun.

Speaker 1 (34:06):
I am official.

Speaker 2 (34:06):
Yeah you are too. Yeah, I thank you, thank you
for the honor. All right, I brought our kid if
you're just joining us. The President has launched an effort
to uh have a more positive message coming from our
various museums operated by the Smithsonian Institute around the country.
As Greg witnessed and Liz Peake was talking about, you
go into some of these museums today and it's nothing

(34:29):
about all the sins of America has committed. Instead of
talking about, yes, we have sin, there may have been
some things that we are as a country may not
be proud of, but we have also done some amazing
things and that's what the president wants emphasized.

Speaker 3 (34:43):
Greg.

Speaker 1 (34:44):
It is I just again, history is history, and the
way it's being framed right now is in a political sense.
It's not the actual historical story that we've always seen
from our history. And there's so much to be proud of,
and there's so much that this country's done. For it
to not be reflecting in an accurate light, it's just terrible. Yeah,

(35:04):
but what do you think is folks, I mean, maybe
they're I'm not saying you've got to ignore all the warts,
but I mean the worts aren't all that we have.
I mean, we've got some things to talk about.

Speaker 2 (35:13):
We have a little bit more than that. Let's go
to Casey in West Valley City tonight. It wants to
weigh in on this. Casey, Welcome to the Rod and
Gregg Show.

Speaker 11 (35:22):
Thanks for having me on.

Speaker 12 (35:24):
I'm just saying that I think in these museums, next
to these little placards where they want to put everything
in the woke frame light, we need to do a
similar thing that they're doing online with community notes but
instead of community notes, they're historical notes written by historians
and scholars that give you historical context of the different

(35:46):
exhibits that you're going to go and see, so that
they're not looked at through a modern day lens, but
one that gives historical context and meaning. And I also
think they need.

Speaker 11 (35:54):
To put up an exhibit called the American Badass. It
just goes over all the people that are really unsung
heroes of American history, like Cassius Armilius Clay, one of
the best gun fighters in the world, who actually was
an abolitionist.

Speaker 2 (36:10):
Yep, yep. Yeah, that's good point. That's good point, Casey.

Speaker 3 (36:14):
I like that.

Speaker 2 (36:15):
I like that idea, the badass to Americans.

Speaker 1 (36:18):
And there's so many that's what American grit is.

Speaker 3 (36:21):
Ye.

Speaker 2 (36:21):
Back to the phones, we go last ark with Shane
in Salt Lake City tonight on this Shane, how are
you welcome to the Rod and Greg Show.

Speaker 10 (36:29):
Yeah?

Speaker 3 (36:30):
Doing well.

Speaker 6 (36:30):
Thanks.

Speaker 13 (36:30):
I had a great time going to the inauguration with
the family earlier this year, and I saw exactly what
you guys are talking about in many of the museums,
but the one that took out the most was going
to the museum.

Speaker 14 (36:44):
That talks about.

Speaker 11 (36:45):
World War Two and the extremination of the Jews and.

Speaker 3 (36:47):
All that, and.

Speaker 13 (36:50):
At the end, obviously you all know, there's a somber
feeling in that museum. And we ended up with the
museum and there was a sign there because I've been
there before, and the sign was very big at the
very end of the museum that said what.

Speaker 12 (37:05):
Did America know and when?

Speaker 11 (37:07):
And it had the sense of like trying to blame.

Speaker 2 (37:11):
Oh, Shane, you're talking about the Holocaust Museum. I would
imagine sounds like you right, Yeah, yeah, that is that
is a powerful museum. And what was on the sign, Shane,
What did America know? And why didn't we do something
about it?

Speaker 13 (37:29):
That's what it was kind of sounding like. It was
very large at the very it was one of the
very last wall in the museum, and I said what
did America know and when? Meaning that we knew about
it earlier and do anything.

Speaker 12 (37:40):
At least That's how I read it.

Speaker 2 (37:41):
Yeah, Yeah, pretty pretty disappointing, Shane, Thank you, Thank you
for that. You know, I want to know a question
for you, Greg. I've been to the Air and Space Museum,
which I absolutely love. Right, I'm surprised. They haven't got
a question walking out the door. Where were the black astronauts?

Speaker 10 (37:58):
Yeah?

Speaker 1 (37:59):
They just everything's so center around. I want to go
back to A. Casey's call because he threw out the
name Cassius Marcellus Clay. Not talking about Cassius Clay the boxer.
This was this was an abolitionist. This is a badass.
This is a guy that that really he entered politics.
He was a He was an American planter, politician, military officer,

(38:21):
uh and and an abolitionist who served as the United
States ambassadored Russia. Born in Kentucky. Anyway, Cassius Clay, if
he was named after this, this this historical figure, what
a what a great historical figure to be named after,
And yet you never see any of that discussed this
Cassius Clay, that that Muhammad Ali was might have been
named after I would imagine. But what a what a

(38:42):
great legacy and a great story behind Cassius Marcellus Clay.

Speaker 2 (38:46):
Yeah, you know, and you think about it, and uh
Sean Handy John Handy often talks about the fact that
here we are the most powerful country in the world,
when greg have we ever invaded a country and gone
in there and taken over a country. When have we
ever done that?

Speaker 1 (39:05):
We have?

Speaker 2 (39:05):
I mean, we could have done that after World War Two.
We could have taken over Europe for crime out loud.
We didn't.

Speaker 1 (39:11):
Nope, we didn't. And and look in our best efforts,
if we have any criticism, I have any criticismidst the
nation building where we're trying to go into these foreign lands.

Speaker 2 (39:20):
And trying to don't understand what's going to make.

Speaker 1 (39:23):
It like America, where that's not their culture or what
they're looking for necessarily, but everything I think the United
States has ever done, and these we first want to
protect ourselves and maybe take the fight somewhere else before
it gets to our shores. And I understand, at least
in the eighties when I was growing up, why that
was important with the Cold War and everything, But but

(39:43):
it's all I think it's always been done aspirationally, at
least American people have believed that's why. But so I
just think that just to frame this country in the
worst terms and for the worst motives is just such
a crime. And I just am so glad they're going
to do some thing about those museums because as a kid,
I used to go to those and we did not

(40:04):
learn what they're putting in those kids' heads today. It's
it's just not the history of this country.

Speaker 3 (40:09):
You know.

Speaker 2 (40:09):
And wasn't it earlier this year where President Trump was
in the Middle East and he talked about we failed
the nation building. We didn't do it right. No, we
shouldn't be doing that. Yeah, all right, more coming up
the Rod and Greg show right here on Utah's talk
radio one oh five nine k nrs.

Speaker 1 (40:25):
Favored by Trump. After Democrats returned to the state.

Speaker 2 (40:29):
What did they achieve?

Speaker 1 (40:31):
Nothing? Nothing, nothing, just looking clownish. Yeah, yeah, but no
they Texas House is moving forward, the legislature is moving forward,
and we'll see that soon.

Speaker 3 (40:41):
Yeah.

Speaker 2 (40:42):
State Senate expected to take it up in the next
couple of days. So here we go, folks. Yeah, I'm
going to California threatening to do the same thing.

Speaker 1 (40:49):
Let them, honestly, they have the Blue states have already
done this to such an extent that if you want
to play that game, there's more that Texas could do.
These aren't the three maps that the districts they could redraw.
They're the ones that the court says were not constitutional
and that they're getting their addressing. But if if Gavin
Newsom just wants to play a hardball game of politics,

(41:12):
I think there's up to ten districts that could be
redrawn in Texas if that's the way they want to play.
And then you look at the other states they could
do the same. So that's it. That's they're they're they're
barking up the wrong tree.

Speaker 3 (41:22):
Yeah.

Speaker 2 (41:22):
Yeah, Now, before we go back to our topic, JD.
Vans and Pete haig Seth and Steve Miller. Steven Miller
went to a Union Station today. Did you notice where
they stopped eat nowhere? Steak scheck in that steak.

Speaker 1 (41:35):
Shack, shake shack, shake shake check. Ye, I've eaten there before,
have you really?

Speaker 2 (41:39):
Yeah? And that same one.

Speaker 1 (41:41):
You know, we didn't go over there because I heard
it's a little CD.

Speaker 3 (41:43):
I didn't. I don't know.

Speaker 1 (41:44):
I didn't take the kids. I didn't take the fam
over to that part.

Speaker 2 (41:47):
I had been going to Washington over the years, back
and forth and come in through Union Station because I'd
fly to Baltimore, take a train down and then skate.
I know it, but you know that that plays years ago.
All kinds of great stores, all kinds of great places,
deep the last time I went, I'm with you, it
was a dump. A few stores were still left.

Speaker 1 (42:07):
There was nothing there I wanted to show.

Speaker 2 (42:09):
So they stay there today. And then JD. Vans decided
to sit down with Laura Ingram tonight and talk about
his visit and his thoughts on the Democratic Party.

Speaker 1 (42:17):
I think these observations are exactly correct. Let's let's have
a listen.

Speaker 15 (42:20):
I don't know why Democrats seem to love public disorder
and chaos almost as a political ideology, and I think
that part of what's going on is Democrats have gotten
so divorced from the communities that they allegedly serve that
they don't realize the gross majority of residents in DC
they want to walk through Union Station and just have

(42:40):
a bite to eat or enjoy the space with their families.
They don't realize that so many people have been absolutely
terrorized by Democrat crime policies. And so maybe they just
don't make the connection between what Gavin Newsom says and
the facult places like DC or Los Angeles have some
of the highest murder rates.

Speaker 3 (42:58):
In the world.

Speaker 1 (43:00):
Makes he does, and it's and it's true. I mean,
the they are just if you see there was an
interesting thing you can take. When there's a protest, there's
there's cell phones, and they they they there's public information
that those cell phones bring out. They found that the
people that were protesting in DC had been to at
least seven of these similar type rallies. They did not

(43:21):
their residents, that the phone that was registered was not
from that area. They were predominantly all older white people,
which is not the demographic of the area of which
they were protesting in Washington, d C. They're either professional
protesters or just loans that just you know, with Trump
derangement syndrome. But they didn't make up the communities. The communities.

(43:43):
DC's tough because they probably hate Trump no matter what. Yeah,
so I don't know there's anyone that that would say
anything nice about Trump. But there's none of them that
are going to say we'd love the chaos, lawlessness in
the crime. They're all going to say they'd like to
be safe. And Democrats don't want to get there. They
don't they don't want to solve that problem.

Speaker 2 (44:01):
They don't want We're talking right now and getting your
phone calls, in your comments and email. We're talking about
the president's effort to clean up and to send a
more positive message to the American people through through our
various museums in Washington, d C. Then we get this
message Greg just email. I'll read this from a listener.
His name is Dave. Listen to what he had to say.

(44:23):
Past April went to the Anchorage Museum, Okay. Spent two
summers working in Alaska thirty five years ago. This was
my fourth trip back. We had a half day to
kill and my friends said the Anchorage Museum was worth seen.
So disappointed, totally woke. It left the impression that Alaska

(44:44):
was settled on the backs of a pressed Hispanics. So
much history in that state. Left so disappointed, and twenty
five dollars later, my friend asked what I thought. Clearly
he was disappointed as well as having been there ten
years earlier. Response tough to follow the Smithsonian MUSEUMSMS now

(45:04):
that it's clear the crown gems of museums in this
country have been ruined. So sad listen Alaska.

Speaker 1 (45:11):
This is the rewriting of history. They want to accuse
Trump of doing this. This is that transference where they
accuse people of doing the very thing that they do.
They have rewritten history in recent times, and as he's
trying to correct some of this, now they're accusing you
of rewriting history.

Speaker 8 (45:27):
He's not.

Speaker 1 (45:27):
I mean, you wouldn't have found those things said the
way they are, and the email you receive shows the
same things going on in other museum.

Speaker 2 (45:34):
And here's a talkback comment, hi, rodin Greg. There already
is a list of American badasses. It's called the Medal
of Honor list. That's right, Medal of Honor list. Good gum,
appreciate that. All right, more of your calls and comments
coming up. Eighty eight eight five seven eight zero one
zero cell phone dial pound two fifty, or you can
leave us a talk message a talkback message at kanarreest

(45:55):
dot com if you've downloaded the iHeartRadio app by the way,
just updated and you you know you wonder. Okay, Democrats,
what are you doing? I mean they leave Texas? How
many left? About fifty of them right, so they couldn't
get a quorum in the Texas House. They come back
and today the Texas House approved the redistricting maps. I mean, yeah, yeah,

(46:16):
what have they proven? Absolutely nothing?

Speaker 3 (46:19):
Yeah?

Speaker 2 (46:20):
Yeah, what have they proven? All right, we've got a
phone call, let's go to our caller and see what
they have to say here in the Rod and Greg
Show and Talk Radio one oh five nine. Having some
trouble with that, we'll get out of that and have
them call back. So some odd reason phone screener didn't work.
Hopefully he'll be able to call back and Harry Coller, sorry, caller,
leave us a message or join us on the line

(46:40):
as we talk about what's going on today. They're in
the rodd In Greg Show. I mean we're talking right
now about the president's desire. You know, we're celebrating two
hundred and fifty years. This should be a great moment
for this country, right, but as you have pointed out,
others have pointed out, they go to museums now and
all it seems to be doing is tearing down America.

Speaker 1 (47:00):
Yeah, it's it's I mean, this has been going on
for a while, but we finally have common sense that's
becoming front of mind. We can talk about these things again.

Speaker 7 (47:09):
This was going on.

Speaker 1 (47:10):
We've seen this for a while, but what could we
do about it? I mean, we were being censored before
Elon Musk bought Twitter, uh completely, we were being shadow
banned on our social media feeds. I mean, it was really,
really bad. The pendulum is swinging back. It's why we
in the show we've described you've never seen a larger
decrease of registered Democrats in America. In thirty states, they've

(47:31):
gone down what would you say, a million, four four
point five million. That isn't by accident. There they are
just they are just the party of subtraction. They really are.
So let's go to our callers, our listeners. Who's calling in.
Let's go to our to Chris from Spanish Fork. Chris,

(47:53):
Welcome to the Rodd and Gregg Show.

Speaker 2 (47:59):
Hello us, Yeah, yeah, go ahead, graz.

Speaker 3 (48:04):
Oh hey, thanks Ron. I appreciate the topic that you're
talking about right now. So a couple of quick things.
Years ago, I was over in Europe and I went
to the Anne Frank County, you know, I was doing
business for a tech company out of Utah, and I
was thoroughly disgusted at the about halfway through it with

(48:25):
the propaganda that they were speeling and how woke it was.
I didn't even know what woke didn't even exist then,
but it was just it was. It was a precursor
to the movement and the LGBT stuff. I couldn't believe
but they were promoting there and how they were dissied
on the US. Well, last year, my wife and I
were up at the United States Enabled Me Undersea Museum

(48:47):
in Keyport, Washington. Our son was up in the area.
We were visiting, and what started out to be a
great visit, it was all woke. We could not believe
what they were promoting there, and it was disgusting. I
turned to her and said, this is exactly the experience

(49:08):
I had at Deanne frank House. It's the same people,
the same template that they're using. And so I just
I want to call and let you know that it's
happening everywhere, and I'm so glad that President Trump is
correcting the lies that have been purposely made to see
the American people. We need to go back to what
the history really was.

Speaker 2 (49:28):
Yeah, you're right, Chris, And he said, like he said,
I mean, he's seen in Europe. We just had a
caller a listener right in said he's seen it in Alaska.
You're seeing in Washington, DC. Hopefully it can change.

Speaker 3 (49:40):
It has to, I really do.

Speaker 1 (49:41):
The young people are learning the wrong.

Speaker 2 (49:43):
Stuff, all right. When we come back the failure of
Blue cities in America. Our number three of the Rod
and Greg Show is on his way. Stay with us,
should we take a moment. I wanted to play this
for you, our good friend John Kennedy, Senator from Louisian.

Speaker 1 (50:03):
Oh, yes, we love. He has to have it. He
has to have a writer because he doesn't say the
same joke twice. He's got so much original content, which
I embraced it.

Speaker 2 (50:14):
He was on Fox News and he was asked to
comment about the candidate for mayor in New York. Lander.

Speaker 1 (50:22):
Yeah, Zlander, we've gotten lucky.

Speaker 8 (50:26):
Bad for America, good for Republicans. With mister Mamdani in
New York. If if I didn't know better, I would
think he was a Republican plant. If I didn't know better,
I'd think that Republicans had created mister Mondanie in a
Petri dish, in a genomics genomics lab. He's he's clearly

(50:52):
from what I call the the the Gary Busey wing,
the Craig Kurray wing of the Democratic Party. That's bad
for New York, but it's certainly good for Republicans.

Speaker 2 (51:03):
It certainly is good for.

Speaker 3 (51:07):
Them.

Speaker 2 (51:08):
We do kind of like that. All right, let's talk
more about the Democrats and the blue cities. Why are
blue states and blue state cities failing. Well, we could
say because they're run by Democrats one of the issues.
Would you agree, Yes, yeah, I'd say it's the reason. Yeah,
it's the main reason, because they're economic policies are a failure.
Con Carroll, commentary writer editor at The Washington Examiner, joining

(51:31):
us right now on this. All right, Con, let's ask
you the question, why are these blue state cities failing?

Speaker 7 (51:36):
Yeah, it's not just the economic stats, it's just the
cins Buro stats. When you look at population, right, if
you look at the top ten cities in the country, right,
you have New York with Angeles, Chicago, Pennsylvania, they're all
in the top you know, five or so. And then
you also have these red state cities that are along
there too, like Dallas, Houston, Phoenix, San Antonio. But when
you look at the change in the past ten years,

(51:59):
New York and Los Angeles have actually lost population, while
Chicago and Philadelphia have treaded water at best. Meanwhile, all
those red state cities they talked about, they're growing like
getting busters, you know, fifteen to twenty percent over the
past ten years.

Speaker 1 (52:14):
So I think I know why that would be the case.
But I'm but you can take cost of living, you
can take you know, economic climate, you can take a
quality of life. There's a lot of different things. Can
you pinpoint this exodus and the migration end up into
red states? Could you bottom line it into one concept
or one thought?

Speaker 7 (52:34):
Sure, well, let me just separate, you know, from what
I call symptoms from the underlying cause. So some of
the symptoms I talk about are affordability, which isn't just
housing costs. So housing costs in blue state cities are
much higher than they are in red state cities. It's
not just electricity. You know, California has the high electricity
prices in the country. When you look at the list
of top ten states, they're all Democratic states that have

(52:56):
high electricity prices. And there's also public order. You know,
you go to the cbs is in these boot state
cities and everything's behind plastic. But I underline, I identify
the underlying cause as government unions. Okay, so this is
when you have a government employees that are allowed to
collectively bargain and sign contracts that bind the government. It's

(53:18):
not just higher pay, not just higher wages, but working conditions.
So they're just basically dictating, you know, how they do
their own jobs.

Speaker 2 (53:26):
But con would this union exist in these new cities
where everybody is moving to, or most of these right
to work states, or are they the unions aren't strong
in some of those cities. What do you what do
you look at the future and tell us what do
you see happening here?

Speaker 9 (53:41):
Yeah?

Speaker 7 (53:42):
Absolutely so. When Franklin Delano Roosevelt signed the Wagner Act
back in nineteen thirty five, he specifically said that government
employees should not be given collective bargaining privileges, because then
you'd have the government negotiating with the government, and there'd
be no real check for the people to insert, you know,
some type of check on the government union power. But

(54:03):
starting in the nineteen sixties, New York was the first
one that gave government employees the power to collective bargaining,
and then Democrats across the country adopted in California, Illinois.
And so it is in these countries where govern employees
have the right to collectively bargain that government needs have
the most power. And it's where you have all the
dysfunction because these government unions get high pay high benefits,

(54:26):
but they don't have to actually produce anything in return,
and the only option people have is is to leave unportraate.
And you know, you can see this happening right away
in where I live in northern Virginia. So for years
Virginia was a red state and then it turned purple,
and then you know, just recently it kind of became
more blue. And it wasn't until twenty twenty one that

(54:48):
Democratic Governor Jim Gilmore finally had a blue Democratic legislature
and they signed collective bargaining for Virginia employees. And immediately
within the next two years, you had one of the
richest mounty in the country, Fairfax County, where is lit
which had always operated in the black, but the first
time that where they had done hundreds of millions of
dollars is all because of new huge contracts that you know,

(55:11):
the cronies on the government union side with their cronies
and the Democratic Party.

Speaker 1 (55:16):
So con here's my big question, and I don't think
there's a right answer. I just want your hunch. I
would think that if you lived in a red state
or blue state and you saw all the indicators go
down and you need to you to the point where
you need to get out, and you're going to migrate
to a red state where you think the quality of
life is higher, cost of living's lower, UH, tax burden
is lower. I would think that would be like a

(55:38):
road to on Damascus conversion and you'd have all these
you know, rock ribbed Republican types that have seen the
Liberals at work and say no, no, no, we want
it better. But what I what I'm afraid is happening
is a lot of these people are leaving these areas
but keeping the mindsets that help create those situations in
those states, and they're bringing them into a red state.
My question is what will be the outcome of this myration,

(56:00):
is it going to be that the red that the
red states keep doing what works, or do the do
the people from the failed states bring their bad ideas
and start to muddy the water in those red states?

Speaker 7 (56:13):
Excellent question. I think it depends on the state. I
think it depends on the people that are moving. I
think when a lot of people from California moved to Texas,
I think they're self self selecting. I think that those
are more kind of conservative, middle of the road people
moving out on the other hand, when you look at
states like Colorado, not of the state that definitely has
been taking over left California mindset. That is a state

(56:34):
that has because of California out migration has turned from
blue red to purple to blue. But there is still
a lot that you know, the red states can do
to keep their identity. Now, I mean you toss frontlines
on this, and one of the biggest one is making
sure that government menans don't get the right to collectively bargain.

Speaker 9 (56:51):
Gon.

Speaker 2 (56:52):
I want to ask you a question that I found
interesting in your article as well, and we're talking about
the prices for goods. You mentioned the prices for groceries.
Are grocery items in blue states and red states isn't
that much different, maybe seven to eight percent somewhere around there.
But the big ticket items is where the price differences
really take place. What happens there, what is going on there?

Speaker 7 (57:14):
Sure so business is a great data set produced by
the Bureaus Economical Analysis called the Regional Price Parodies Index,
and it's done by metro areas, so it's also done
at the state level, but you can also go in
and see which of these areas have the different higher
prices for items including as you said, groceries. This is
only about seven percent difference between Red states and Blue states.
When you look at like housing, it's like fifty percent

(57:37):
higher and for Blue states, and forty percent higher for utilities.
So what you're seeing here.

Speaker 3 (57:42):
Is that you have all of these.

Speaker 7 (57:44):
On the housing side, you know, you have environmental regulations,
you have you know, minimum lot sizes, you have all
types of going back to unions, you have all types
of laws about who can build these houses. But then
on the utility side, you know, California has a cap
and trade system, which is especially defentially a carbon tax.

(58:05):
It has its own special fuel standard which tries up
the cost of gas. So there's all these others environmental
laws and Blue states tag on the Red States. Don't
they just make everything more expensive than Blue states?

Speaker 2 (58:16):
Con Carroll from the Washington Examiner talking about why Blue states,
blue state cities in fact, are failing more. Coming up
on the Rod and Greg Show and Talk Radio one
All five nine can ars.

Speaker 1 (58:27):
Brandy Dangy New United States Navy Fire Weapons School top gun.

Speaker 2 (58:32):
Mugug, nice mug, very nice, big mug.

Speaker 1 (58:36):
Came from the school.

Speaker 3 (58:37):
Came.

Speaker 1 (58:37):
This isn't like some chintzy you know, U souvenir store.
You know this is this came from the the place,
that's right.

Speaker 2 (58:44):
I got one too.

Speaker 1 (58:46):
Yeah, I can feel the weight of responsibility to own
a mug like this. You can't just not everyone can
even own a mug like this. You have to be
kind of you gotta have some legitimacy A.

Speaker 2 (58:56):
Week partially top gun folks.

Speaker 1 (58:59):
I don't care what Ray says Yea or Joe or
Joe Pesci, I don't care. I'm telling you that this
is not a mug that the average citizen can get.
You have to be a top gun level you know,
co host.

Speaker 2 (59:13):
Yeah, to get it. I don't really care.

Speaker 1 (59:15):
Margaret, and my name is not Margaret.

Speaker 2 (59:18):
His name is not Margaret. Uh. Donald Trump has introduced
a brand new strategy, greg in making sure that the
southern border is strong. Strategy, a new strategy, a new tactic.
I should say, you're ready for this, a new what
you stare at me when I raise these points and
I'm waiting for you to respond.

Speaker 1 (59:38):
It's at zero right now. What do you have to
do to make us stronger?

Speaker 2 (59:41):
You know what he's going to do? What Christy Nolman
El says yesterday, what he's painting the wall black? Nice,
I already know why, because that's hot hot. Yeah, the
reason behind it. It will be painted black, according to
the story today, as part of the president's effort to
increase the effect giveness of the wall as a deterrent.

(01:00:02):
Speaking in front of a portion of the wall in
New Mexico, Noam explained that the wall would be painted
entirely black for the dual purpose of making it heat
up more and that's harder to climb, as well as
increasing the lifespan of the metal. I think it makes
it very intimidating.

Speaker 1 (01:00:19):
Ice fan of the metal who cares hot, like, I like,
that's hard. Try to climb, try to shimmy up that thing.

Speaker 2 (01:00:25):
Yeah, when it's one hundred and five down there on
the border and that thing's just sizzling.

Speaker 1 (01:00:30):
Yes, good idea. I think I think it's wonderful.

Speaker 10 (01:00:33):
You know.

Speaker 1 (01:00:34):
I keep thinking about that sixty minutes clip where they
showed all these uh Chinese people that that just tiktokd
out there just kept coming in by the droves, and
the border patrol had some like recording and Mandarin Chinese
to tell them, hey, welcome to America. Nobody in sixty
minutes said we want them to stay. They should never leave.
They were not even sixty minutes itself, was not framing
that as good news or a great or you know result.

(01:00:56):
But yet find someone on the left right now that
would try to rever all the madness that they actually
talked about and documented. They don't want to. So where
we saw that gap where they were all coming in
from their TikTok app going there, that needs to be
that black wall. Just close that part off. There's a
poor farmer they got. They tried to tell him the
quidd hanging out on his property, that he took his

(01:01:18):
guns away because he kept shooting in the air trying
to scare him. He got in trouble. Not the people
coming across.

Speaker 2 (01:01:23):
But they just think about how long is the mile going?
The wall going to be like seven hundred miles something
like that, a little bit more, I don't know.

Speaker 1 (01:01:29):
But once you've seen the Great Wall, nothing's I mean
the great walls like the span of the cross the
United States. That's how long it is.

Speaker 2 (01:01:36):
Yeah.

Speaker 1 (01:01:36):
So once you've seen from as far as the human
eye can see to the far as, and that's a
big elaborate wall. That's not that the black you know
the wall that we're talking about. We could do anything.
I love that we can do anything.

Speaker 2 (01:01:46):
I love the black Wall. There is a brand new
federal state migrant detention center. Have you heard this story?

Speaker 1 (01:01:54):
I can't wait. It is always good.

Speaker 2 (01:01:56):
It is in Nebraska, Okay. Nebraska is known for corn.
They're calling it the corn Husker clink.

Speaker 1 (01:02:04):
See. I love the word clink. I always used that
you throw them in the clink.

Speaker 2 (01:02:08):
The corn Husker clink, corn.

Speaker 1 (01:02:10):
Husk Husker clink. I love that one.

Speaker 2 (01:02:13):
One in Utah? What would we call it?

Speaker 3 (01:02:16):
That?

Speaker 2 (01:02:16):
Would you know? We should ask our listeners one day
to come up with clever names for a new detention
center in Utah. I'm try.

Speaker 1 (01:02:24):
I can think of the beehive, but I was thinking
a bunker. But they're not a bunker or detention.

Speaker 2 (01:02:31):
That's that's strong.

Speaker 3 (01:02:33):
We can't.

Speaker 2 (01:02:35):
I gotta be one out there.

Speaker 1 (01:02:37):
The Garfield goolag. How about that with some of the
Garfield the county Cushers will appreciate that. But what about
the Garfield Lafield coula? But I love that corn Husker clink.
That's alligator Alcatraz has some competition with the corn Husker Clink.

Speaker 2 (01:02:56):
What were they gonna call Alcatraz?

Speaker 1 (01:02:59):
I'm don't remember.

Speaker 2 (01:03:00):
Did they come up with a name for Alcatraz something
like that. I thought they were maybe the corner Oscar Clink.
I wonder what we'd call it in Utah. Of course
we'd have to have one to begin with. I don't
see any effort being made in that regard, unfortunately. All right,
more coming up here on the rod In Greg Show
in Utah's Talk radio one oh five nine k n
R S names.

Speaker 1 (01:03:19):
Of potential ice facilities that could be located here in Utah.

Speaker 2 (01:03:25):
We have one from Nebraska that was announced yesterday, the Cornhucker.

Speaker 1 (01:03:29):
Clink Clink, the Speedway Slimer.

Speaker 2 (01:03:34):
You have Elegatort Alcatraz.

Speaker 1 (01:03:36):
Yeah, here's here's a good one. Brigham's Big House.

Speaker 11 (01:03:42):
I like that one.

Speaker 1 (01:03:43):
Okay, the other one, I don't even get that. You
know they're supposed to have like the similar letters and stuff.
I just don't even get it. I don't know what's
so funny about it.

Speaker 2 (01:03:50):
What Brigham's Big House? Another one?

Speaker 1 (01:03:52):
The other one?

Speaker 2 (01:03:53):
You don't read that?

Speaker 1 (01:03:54):
Yeah, well it says it says, and I don't know what.
So I don't get it. It just says a Cox
penal colony. I don't get it.

Speaker 9 (01:03:59):
I don't know.

Speaker 2 (01:04:00):
I don't know what well A penal colony is a detention.

Speaker 1 (01:04:03):
Yeah, Australia was the whole, the whole colony. So yeah,
Cox's he's the he's the governor. Yeah that one.

Speaker 2 (01:04:12):
When not honor him with that?

Speaker 1 (01:04:13):
Yeah, I don't get it Cox's penal colony. That's a
that's a that's a I'm stumped.

Speaker 3 (01:04:18):
Yeah, he is.

Speaker 2 (01:04:21):
So thank you for sharing yours with me.

Speaker 11 (01:04:24):
So, I don't know.

Speaker 1 (01:04:25):
I don't know about that one. So, but you know,
thank you listeners for contributing. If you got some names
for the idea for our slammer are I like my
Garfield goolg. I thought that'd be good if it was
in Garfield County.

Speaker 2 (01:04:38):
I like the one I had, even though the people
in this community wouldn't like it. I liked Hooper who
scow whose?

Speaker 1 (01:04:46):
Yeah, Hooper's ale too close to home?

Speaker 2 (01:04:47):
We don't know, Yeah, we have, we have friends and
Hooper so we don't want to get upset with us.
We no, no, no, shall we move on?

Speaker 1 (01:04:55):
Let's move on?

Speaker 2 (01:04:56):
Talk about more serious, more serious object. Shall we let's
talk about what the usdent is doing when it comes
to Biden's climate change agenda. No doubt he is moving
to wipe out everything that Joe Biden want and I
love it. Joining us on our Newsmaker line right now
is Kevin Keilo. He is the energy reporter at just
the News. Kevin you wrote, wrote wrote a great story

(01:05:18):
about this and how the president is moving at breakneck
seed to speed to change all this. Are you surprised
as to how fast he's moving?

Speaker 14 (01:05:26):
Uh, not really surprised at all if you kind of
understand uh kind of what the administration uh doing here
at least this is this is what I think is
kind of happening. You know, he's often accused of causing
chaos and uh you know, uh so this, uh, this
is all based on the American Energy Alliance.

Speaker 3 (01:05:46):
They have this report.

Speaker 14 (01:05:47):
They tally up actions, uh, that the Trump administration has
taken to in line with Trump's executive order to unleash
American energy. Under the Biden administration, they did a whole
list that tallied up all the things that the Biden
administration and the Democrats had taken to make producing fossil

(01:06:10):
fuels harder and more expensive. And I came across the
list at the time I was with Cowboys State Daily.
It's a Wyoming publication that was their energy and there
was like one hundred and twenty five items on the list.
This is like late twenty twenty two, early twenty twenty three.
By the time Biden left office, there was two hundred
and fifty items on it. So very expensive list. Yeah,

(01:06:33):
and you know, often it's said. You know, you can
hear Democrats, like in the committee hearings today talking about
they'll say, what war on oil and gas? We were
producing more oil and gas than any nation in history.
And that's true and all, but you know, it's kind
of like Hitler sitting at his monker in April nineteen

(01:06:54):
forty five, saying what won on Russia? There's Russians all
over Berlin. It's like, yeah, there was there's law on
oil and gas.

Speaker 3 (01:07:01):
You just lost.

Speaker 14 (01:07:02):
It turns out that, you know, it's very practical, reliable,
affordable energy and they weren't just going to dispense with
it like they planned. So you know, incomes the Trump
administration and the American Energy Alliance starts producing this report
showing all these actions taken in line with the unleashing
the American Energy list, and what kind of distinguishes this,

(01:07:28):
you know, not only from the course of Biden administration,
but from the first Trump administration. Uh, you know, they
move really kind of slowly with things, and I think
what Trump is trying to do here, Trump and the
Congressional Republicans, but especially the Trump administration, they're they're pouring
out these rules because they know what follows. There's a
lot of lawsuits. There are these environmentalist groups, climate action

(01:07:52):
groups that they have billions and billions of dollars to
work with, and so they can just sit around and
sew all day. And so the expectation is they'll go
through the rule making process and then there'll be a
lot of litigation to follow. And surely the opponents of
this agenda are kind of hoping that they can you know,
draw this out either you know, reverse the rules through

(01:08:14):
the courts or draw it out so long that another
administration more friendly to their agenda comes into power and
then they can get all this reverse. So I think
the trumpet is anticipating that, and that's what you know,
this kind of breakneck.

Speaker 7 (01:08:31):
Kind of action is.

Speaker 14 (01:08:32):
So I think going forward, You're not going to see
nearly as much action in terms of reversing policies or
enacting new ones as much as you've seen in these
first two hundred days.

Speaker 1 (01:08:42):
You know, you just touched on it. You know, Trump's
first administration, they got out of the Paris Accord, they
did some good things. Biden comes in, they reverse it,
they do some worse things. But my question is what
the good work that the president's doing right now? Are
there some wins that is back? Does he have some
momentum for two reasons. One, the liberals leftists have discovered
the need or the demand of energy which is with

(01:09:03):
AI is far greater than maybe they had contemplated before,
and so they themselves need to know how to generate
that energy. And Second, the policies that President Trump is
pursuing really comports with a strong economy and with businesses,
and it doesn't work against them. Would the economic forces
and the demand for energy keep the changes that President
Trump's putting in place permanent or are we just still

(01:09:25):
playing ping pong?

Speaker 14 (01:09:29):
There's definitely less momentum behind the climate agenda, if you
want to call it that. You know, AI is definitely
a part of it. One of the things they were
kind of depending on was America's electricity consumption was basically flat,
and of course AI is now making that go up,
and so they're going to need a lot more energy.

(01:09:50):
But on top of that, you can look at poles
and they show Americans, you know, as much as you know,
Climate actisn like to think they have a lot of support.
You know, when it comes to where they rate climate change,
polls show that voters put climate change way down at
the bottom. You know, the economy is the one that's
the top. Economy and immigration, and the same thing is

(01:10:12):
true when you ask you know, you just see these
polls asking you know, if they support you know, the
government doing more about climate change. Of course they do,
but if you also ask them, well how much would
you spend? You know, even one dollar begins to drop support,
and as that goes up to one hundred dollars, support
drops down to you know, into the teams, if if

(01:10:35):
not lower. So you know, Trump and saying, hey, there's
he outright calls climate change of hoax, you know, and
voters still voted them in and following all this action,
there haven't just been you know, these big protests in
the streets or anything like that. So yeah, they don't
have nearly the support.

Speaker 7 (01:10:54):
They used to.

Speaker 2 (01:10:55):
Kevin, let me ask you this are are they Have
they tackled the big issues that they wanted to tackle
right away or is there more to come?

Speaker 1 (01:11:02):
Well?

Speaker 2 (01:11:03):
What is what is your assessment of where they are
right now in attacking some of these unbelievable environmental rules.

Speaker 14 (01:11:11):
Yeah, they they basically hit the big things, and I
don't think we're going to see just a whole lot
more actions. There's not a lot more they could do,
you know, like I said, now, they're just trying. They're
just basically preparing to defend these things, to put them
through the rulemaking process and then be prepared for all
the litigation that it's going to follow. So yeah, you're

(01:11:34):
not going to see just a whole lot of new
policies come up. That's my prediction anyway, that you won't
see just a lot of There's not a lot that
the Biden administration did that still needs that they can
still overturn. That's going to make a huge difference.

Speaker 2 (01:11:46):
Kevin Kilo with just the news. One other note I
want to add to this, Greig, the administration has just
killed this huge wind project, wind project with windmills up
there in Idaho. Apparently it was killing birds like you
wouldn't be even the administration said enough of this, no
more genocide for the birth.

Speaker 1 (01:12:04):
Yeah, every every environmental idea ends up hurting the very
environment they want to protect. All the dolphins choking on
straws because they want everything to be you know, everything
had to be plastic. Remember, everything had to be pla
You couldn't have a paper bag, you cadn't have any
paper because you're cut down trees. Everything had to be plastic.
And then all the whales and dolphins choked on it.

Speaker 2 (01:12:23):
Amazing. All right, more coming up here at the rod
In Greg Show and Talk Radio one O five nine knrs.
Another name that's been in the news the last twenty
four to forty eight hours. Greg is Fox News anchor
Brett Baer pulled over my police in Washington, d C. Right, yep, yeah, so,
and Papa Rossi was there getting pictures of it. So

(01:12:44):
he before he started his show last night, he explained
what happened.

Speaker 16 (01:12:48):
I did get stopped by a DC police officer. I
was driving my wife's g wagon and I was coming
back into Georgetown. The phone rang I picked it up.
Police officers was there and he pointed to pull me over.
Pulled over, said you can't be on your phone. Then
it took me a while to find the registration wasn't

(01:13:08):
my car, the car wasn't the phone wasn't paired to
my wife's car, so I couldn't do the bluetooth thing.
He was very professional, the police officer was very cordial.
I was saying, yes, sir, I apologized, found the registration,
and then.

Speaker 2 (01:13:26):
He gave me a ticket. I said thank you.

Speaker 16 (01:13:30):
But it got a lot of coverage, a lot of
coverage about this video because I didn't know there was
paparazzi across the street. And listen, don't pick up your phone,
don't drive with your phone, don't text on your phone.
Lesson learned, you.

Speaker 2 (01:13:44):
Would think who he is, he would have been able
to get out of a ticket.

Speaker 1 (01:13:48):
Don't you think that's what you get when you got
more law enforcement coming the street to DC you'll hold
up that phone.

Speaker 2 (01:13:56):
Did you ever get out of a ticket because of
who you are?

Speaker 1 (01:13:59):
Ah, come on, come on, I'll tell you this. I
wouldn't know because I would never drop I've been pulled over,
and were you a ticket.

Speaker 3 (01:14:11):
No, but I did.

Speaker 1 (01:14:11):
I never said who.

Speaker 2 (01:14:12):
I mean, I never recognized you.

Speaker 16 (01:14:14):
Do you know who?

Speaker 1 (01:14:15):
I never said, I would never say that. I would
think you would get guaranteed get a ticket if you
tried that stuff. I think that's the worst thing you
could ever do.

Speaker 2 (01:14:22):
Years ago, when I was a channel too and on
television quite a bit, right, I think I went through
like five or six stops where I've been pulled over,
and they did recognize me, and they let me off.

Speaker 1 (01:14:33):
They say they recognized you.

Speaker 2 (01:14:35):
Yeah, they said, Rod, just slow down. So I drive
my wife nuts.

Speaker 1 (01:14:39):
So no one ever said they recognized me. They just
said drive more care.

Speaker 2 (01:14:44):
I never said. It just happened to me recently. I
was getting on, going a little fast, getting on you
got way fast? No I don't, and an officer pulled
me over. He took all my information, went back to
his vehicle, came back, and he just said, mister kid
slowed down. Well I got lucky.

Speaker 1 (01:15:00):
I think you got lucky. You saw that drunk da
at whatever state?

Speaker 2 (01:15:07):
Do you know who I am?

Speaker 1 (01:15:09):
The police officers like, I don't really care. Not allowed
You're not allowed to, you know.

Speaker 2 (01:15:13):
Never never tell a police officer with this question, do
you know who I am? I think it's so horrible
you won't get anywhere in that one. All right, that's
the for us to head off, shoulders back. May God
bless you and your family and that's great country of ours.
Thanks for listening today. We'll be back tomorrow and for
we'll talk to you then

All Episodes

Episode Transcript

The Rod & Greg Show News

Popular Podcasts

Stuff You Should Know

My Favorite Murder with Karen Kilgariff and Georgia Hardstark

The Joe Rogan Experience

.css-15opob5{left:0;position:absolute;top:0.8rem;} All Episodes

.css-14f5ked{margin:0;word-break:break-word;display:-webkit-box;-webkit-box-orient:vertical;box-orient:vertical;-webkit-line-clamp:2;overflow:hidden;}The Rod and Greg Show: Trump's Battle with the Smithsonian; Should Utah Require Proof of Citizenship to Vote?

Episode Transcript

The Rod & Greg Show News .css-1q01m3q{margin:0 0 -2px 0;}

Popular Podcasts

.css-r6mb8g{margin:0;word-break:break-word;display:-webkit-box;-webkit-box-orient:vertical;box-orient:vertical;-webkit-line-clamp:1;overflow:hidden;}Stuff You Should Know

My Favorite Murder with Karen Kilgariff and Georgia Hardstark

The Joe Rogan Experience

All Episodes