The Rod and Greg Show: Utah Tech Univ. Exposed for Continuing DEI Practices

Episode Transcript
Available transcripts are automatically generated. Complete accuracy is not guaranteed.
Speaker 1 (00:00):
Just handed down indictment of Letitia James. The Attorney General
of New York State peers that she has at least
the charges are that she has committed mortgage from that.

Speaker 2 (00:08):
Well, here's the thing, Like we say, the news is
becoming like Utah's weather. Give it five minutes and it
will change. Yes, and it changed. I mean what thirty
minutes before we came on the air, all of a
sudden we get word that Letitia James has now been
indicted by the Trump's Department of Justice.

Speaker 1 (00:25):
Yeah, and it's a pretty clear cut. You would have
to have some I don't know who's whoever would try
to explain to you the indictments against Trump and what
they contrived into a law that he broke. It's very convoluted.
It's hard to explain. I don't think anyone can just
rattle it off the top of their head. I know
what I can explain, Comy's indictment lying to Congress that's illegal.

(00:46):
And now Latitia James, if you've lied on your application
to seek a mortgage, that's not legal and you can't
do it. Yeah, and she misrepresented information on that on
her mortgage that she got personally the irony about this
is it is mortgage fraud that specifically was the topic
that she was going after President Trump over, yes, and
the convoluted you know, issues that she had with his loans.

(01:10):
You don't have to get convoluted with hers. She misrepresented information.
It's pretty cut and dry. But she makes her i mean,
her own comments about President Trump's uh you know, why
she was indicting him and going to seeking a conviction,
makes the case against herself. She said, everyday Americans cannot
lie to a bank to get a mortgage, and if
they did, our government would throw the book at them.

(01:33):
There simply cannot be different rules for different people.

Speaker 2 (01:36):
Yeah, okay, all right, sure, all right, let's shall we
take our listeners back. Let's go back to the first
day of the trial in which Letitia James was going
after Donald Trump and what she said about people with power.

Speaker 3 (01:51):
Donald Trump and the other defendants have committed persistent and
repeated fraud. Last week we proved that in our most
for some rejudgment. Today we will prove our other claims.
My message is simple, no matter how powerful you are,
no matter how much money you think you may have,

(02:12):
no one is above the law, and it is my
responsibility and my duty and my job to enforce it.
The law is both powerful and fragile, and today.

Speaker 4 (02:22):
In court will prove our case.

Speaker 3 (02:24):
I thank you all for being here, and again justice
will prevail.

Speaker 2 (02:29):
I wonder if Tish's gone back and read her own words.

Speaker 1 (02:32):
No one is above the law, honestly, I honestly think
that if you're in court and she's in front of
a jury of her peers, and you're making the case,
you're the Department of Justice, I would just use every
reason that she brought chief claims that she brought this
case against Donald Trump, because I think that I think
it'll be easier to prove. You know, you remember when
the story broke a while ago that she had committed

(02:53):
this mortgage fraud, and people asked, is there any accountability
for that, because it is against law that she's written.
She's written that it was she lying about primary residence
or something.

Speaker 5 (03:03):
Anyway, I.

Speaker 1 (03:06):
Even think, you know, if you listen to James Comey
explaining back in the day when he was prosecut when
the Department of Justice was prosecuting Martha Stewart, he said
that it's illegal to lie to an FBI agent, and
the importance of bringing this case and convicting Martha Stewart
for lying to an FBI agent is because she's so
high profile. People will understand. The general publicill understand you

(03:26):
cannot lie to an FBI agent that that is wrong
and there are consequences for that, and Martha Stewart being
a high profile is a good way to send that
broad message out there that you can't do it.

Speaker 6 (03:36):
Well.

Speaker 1 (03:37):
I would think that would apply to an FBI director
testifying under oath in front of Congress. You can't lie there.
That's against the law. I think he makes his own case,
and I think he's making the case of why Letitia James,
who goes after the former president at the time of
the United States for what she claimed was mortgage fraud.
If she has in fact committed mortgage fraud and broken
the law, she should be held to the law. And

(03:58):
I think she makes You could just out off her
own case and she'd probably make her indict herself.

Speaker 2 (04:02):
And as expected, Greg, already the media is coming to
her defense. Surprise, surprise, right, This is Cassie Hunt on
CNN just a short time ago when word of the
indictment was handed out.

Speaker 7 (04:15):
What tiss James and again, we're still getting the details.
But if it's related to this mortgage issue, I mean,
this is something that everyone in America, for many people
at least, if you're lucky enough to be able to
buy a house in America, you deal with this, right.
The federal government doesn't go after all of these people
for doing this.

Speaker 2 (04:33):
So everybody does it. So why are you going after
Tiss James?

Speaker 1 (04:37):
Yeah, yeh, I never heard that. I never heard that
argument in regards to President Trump. They actually that mortgage
fraud and not only get into the deep deep grass
on it, but they were going after him on what
they considered to be fraudulent information on his loans that
had never been enforced at ever. So where they're CNN's saying, well,

(04:58):
everybody does it, No one has ever done it the
way that they were claiming that Trump broke the law
doing it. And he even had the bank who was
happy with the loan and happy that he paid it
back with interest and was going to explain to the
court that this is our underwriting and we're fine. The
judge wouldn't let that bank testify in President Trump's defense.
So this idea that oh, everyone does it, why should

(05:19):
we do it. That just doesn't fly with what they've
been saying for so long. And again you can if
you go after weaponizing the government, those that weaponize it,
there has to be accountable.

Speaker 8 (05:29):
Yeah.

Speaker 2 (05:29):
Well, Scott Jennys on CNN just a short time ago,
wait in on this case and his thoughts on the
indictment's handed down. The indictment, I should say, handed down
against Letitia James.

Speaker 9 (05:39):
If Democrats like slock and are going to come out
today and whine about selective prosecutions over Tish James, her
entire career is built on the selective prosecution of one man. Now,
I also believe what Elliott said. There's a process here.
Everybody gets their day in court. Obviously, a grand jury
saw enough evidence to bring charges. We don't know what

(06:02):
they are, but a grand jury looked at this and says, okay,
there's something here. She gets to go to court, just
like Comy, just like anyone else. But to me, it's
just not going to fly to boohoo over selective prosecutions
on this particular person who promised in her campaigns, who
went after him on things as Jonah said, that had

(06:23):
no business, no business ever happening, if not before the
man's last name being Trump.

Speaker 2 (06:28):
Right on he spot on Scott Jenningsdale that the only
reason they went after Donald Trump is because he's Donald Trump.

Speaker 1 (06:35):
And here's the thing, you know, when they jumped the shark,
the Democrats and they went after President Trump in unprecedented ways.
We would argue that that and other things that we're
just uncovering about what past administrations and you know, law enforce,
federal law enforcement have done, like surveilling US senators. People
have broken the law. And when you find that they

(06:56):
are brazen enough to try and go after Trump on
contrived you know, laws that he broke.

Speaker 5 (07:02):
The people that did this, the people.

Speaker 1 (07:03):
That are a part of this, I don't know how
you're going to not weaponize, create a disincentive to weaponize
the government. I don't know how you do it if
you don't hold those actors responsible. And that's who these
people are. And so that's not weaponizing it yourself. That's
not two wrongs don't make it right if you are
going to go and buy rule of law. And these again,
these are easy ones to articulate where they broke the law.

(07:26):
If they've done it, they need to be held accountable
as they sought for others like President Trump to be
held accountable. That's how you say, Okay, can we calm
down on this, Because you've broken the law and you
wanted to go this route, You're going to be held
accountable for what you've done.

Speaker 2 (07:40):
And that's exactly what many of our listeners, and we've
talked about this in the past, they keep on asking
when are people going to be held accountable? And that's
where that's the direction that Donald Trump is now taking
because he has a right and they should be handled accountable.
It's that easy, all right. We've got a lot to
get to when we come back. The ninth day of
the government shut down. Get into that coming up next

(08:01):
on the Rotten Greg Show right here on Utah's Talk
Radio one oh five nine k NRS. The ninth day
of the government shutdown, he is quoted as saying, apparently
there's an ad somewhere of him saying every day is
getting a little better. Yeah. The Democrats are fuming because
they know that, you know, he just admitted in plain

(08:23):
English what this is all about, and it's a game.
And for him to say every day is getting a
little better. Ooh.

Speaker 1 (08:31):
What he was saying is the misery index and the
pain felt by the American people gives us more power
and more strength.

Speaker 5 (08:37):
So that's a good day.

Speaker 1 (08:38):
That's a good day when the people suffer and we
hold out because now we can, we can their will
and we can get more power at the expense and
the experience of the American people. And you know, we'll
see it hasn't even gotten real for most because I
don't know that many people feel the effects of this
government shutdown. But that can't go on for it. No,

(08:59):
at some point it's going to start slowing things down.

Speaker 2 (09:01):
And it will next week. That's when the military gets paid,
and if this isn't solved, they will not get paid
and it will get serious. Well, joining us on our
news maker line right now, this is really all about
the enhanced Obamacare subsidies and just getting rid of them.
And joining us on our news maker line to talk
about Obamacare and the fact that it is a total
disaster is Michael Fknn and he's director of Health Policy

(09:23):
Studies at the Cato Institute. Michael, thanks for joining us. Michael,
let me ask you, first of all, what if, in
fact these subsidies go away, what will.

Speaker 6 (09:32):
Happen all the low and moderate income people who are
receiving Obamacare subsidies right now would still get them. Those
are the original Obamacare subsidies, and they're going to stay
in place no matter what Congress does by the end
of the year. The subsidies that we're talking about today,
the ones that people are worried will expire, are subsidies

(09:52):
that reach from all the way up to one to
six people earning six hundred thousand dollars per year. If
you earn one hundred and twenty eight thousand dollars or
all the way down to the poverty line, you're still
going to get subsidies. But if these enhanced what they
call them, or what I call Obamacare subsidies for the

(10:14):
wealthy expire, then the people between one hundred and twenty
nine thousand dollars per year and six hundred thousand dollars
per year don't get any more subsidies. And that is
what we're talking about here. That is what Democrats are
supposedly shutting down the government to preserve is some temporary
subsidies that President Biden and Democratic Congress put in place

(10:35):
and said would expire at the end of this year.
So the fact that they expire at the end of
this year. Is Democrats doing.

Speaker 9 (10:42):
You know?

Speaker 6 (10:43):
And if they expire, then the wealthier people enrolled in
Obamacare will see the full cost of Obamacare is hidden taxes,
and that is what scares Democrats.

Speaker 1 (10:53):
Let's dive into that, because I really think that when
you listen to the Democrats and even Republicans as they
try to articulate these this impasse or this issue, are
failing to point out the one hundred and thirty thousand
annual income to six hundred thousand dollars annual income is
the impacted population. They want to make it sound like
it's the poor huddled masses. Again to your point, you

(11:15):
can't make the baseline the COVID years and a pandemic,
and that's what they're attempting to do. What will we
learn if we see that go away? Naturally, we don't
see the government open, We keep the the cr the same,
and it goes through the debate that you said that
they're afraid for us to have. Maybe we can talk
about that a little more. What what will that expose
more specifically or how can I repeat it to everyone?

Speaker 2 (11:37):
I know?

Speaker 5 (11:38):
Is the real problem?

Speaker 6 (11:40):
So the CBO says that for most people in the exchanges,
Obamacare is hidden text is double their premiums.

Speaker 10 (11:47):
Okay, we could get begetting them comprehensive health insurance, the
CBO says, at premiums that are sixty percent lower than
the lowest cost Obamacare plans.

Speaker 6 (12:00):
And yet all those hidden taxes at Obamacare are prohibiting
that because they're compulsory and they're doubling most everyone's premiums,
which and the premiums go so high that when Congress
originally passed Obamacare, they included a trillion dollars over ten
years for the people between the poverty line and you know,

(12:23):
one hundred and twenty eight thousand dollars to help them
afford these premiums that the government was increasing. Okay, so
that's what the first trillion dollars was for. And you
know what Congress decided in twenty twenty one, just you know,
seventy years into this experiment, they decided that wasn't enough.
They decided that trillion dollars wasn't enough. So now they
want another half trillion dollars, and not just for people

(12:46):
belive from the poverty line to one hundred and twenty
eight thousand dollars per year. They want this much of
this half trillion new money is going to go people
to people making from one hundred and twenty nine thousand dollars.
Although we have to six hundred thousand dollars per year,
there are people making five hundred thousand dollars per year

(13:07):
who could get a seven thousand dollars subsidy. And that's
what the Democrats are trying to protect. They're trying to
protect people from the excessive premiums that Democrats created.

Speaker 2 (13:17):
Well, Michael, I want to ask you are Republicans telling
that story? Because I think if the American people heard
that story, they go, well, this is a bunch of
all laws.

Speaker 1 (13:25):
There's people on that income range that are not in
the on the exchange and they're paying a fortune for
their healthcare.

Speaker 2 (13:30):
Are they telling this story right, Michael?

Speaker 6 (13:34):
Usually not. But here's the thing. Here's the thing. They
have two ready made alternatives that all they need to
do is put it into law, and it would give
people access to what President Trump and what Senate Majority
leaders soon say they want to do, access to high quality,

(13:56):
lower cost health insurance that solo blow cost. You don't
even need a government subsidy. And what they need to
do is build on President Trump's biggest healthcare victory from
his first term, which was when he added consumer protections
to a type of insurance we call short term insurance
that allowed people to get that coverage that the CBO
said is comprehensive and has premiums that are sixty percent

(14:19):
lower than the lowest cost Obamacare plans. And that would
be building on a Trump success. But you know what,
they could also build on an Obama reform, which was
when President Obama saw that all the hidden taxes in
Obamacare would destroy the health insurance markets in US territories,

(14:41):
he said, all right, these don't apply there. That means
that in US territories, people are free from Obamacare's mandates,
They're free from Obamacare's hidden tasks. Is they have more
freedom to choose their health insurance than citizens on the
US mainland do. All US citizens should have that freedom,
and Congress can give it to them by building on
that Obama idea and letting citizens on the main land

(15:04):
buy insurance from any US territory or i should say,
in the fifty States, by insurance from any US territory,
maybe from the same insurance company with a broader provider
network and lower deductible, so better coverage on some dimensions.
We've got a Republican idea, we've got a Democratic idea.
They should be running with those rather than trying to
bail out Obamacare, which is really the crisis that keeps

(15:26):
on giving. I mean, Democrats keeps trying to scare people
about losing their health care because they passed a law
that is terrible. It strips people of their healthcare.

Speaker 1 (15:36):
So when the President said, look, if you want to
talk about healthcare costs, we can. Republicans will talk. We'll
speak with Democrats, but we're going to open the government
back up, and once we do, we'll have that discussion.
A lot of people were worried that President Trump was
capitulating maybe to Obamacare, were those comments, because he then says,
but Obamacare has been a mess. What you're proffering as
solutions is that where you believe the President's going to

(15:56):
go with the Democrats if they get the government back
open and they wanted to go shape this healthcare issue.

Speaker 6 (16:03):
Look, the Presence likes good deals, right, he doesn't like
giving some nathing away to the people on the other
side of the table without getting anything. And if they
just reauthorize these Obamacare subsidies for the wealthy Republicans and
the President will be totally capitulating to Democrats. And so
if there are members of his party that want to

(16:24):
do that, the way he can get them back into
line is to say, hey, look, I had this fantastic
success from my first term. It was freeing people from
Obamacare's hidden taxes, comprehensive coverage for premium sixty percent below
Obamacare premiums. You give me that, and I will give
you a I'm not going to let you pass those

(16:46):
subsidies unless you give me something for it, unless you
build on this victory of mine and throw in the
Obama idea as well, because then the president will at
least be getting something. And I think the gain to
freedom would be worse than the loss of freedom from
extending those subsidies, and it would make healthcare more universal
at the same time. But just to now cover should

(17:07):
not be reauthorizing those subsidies. There's absolutely no excuse for it.
But if that train is leaving the station, the president
can make sure there's a victory for.

Speaker 11 (17:15):
Him in it.

Speaker 2 (17:15):
Yeah, and there should be. And I don't get it, Greg,
six hundred thousand. You're making that every year and you
still get subsidies to get insurance. Yeah, that's I'm telling you.

Speaker 1 (17:24):
There's people with house income that are not getting subsidies
are doing it. Yeah, that's for sure making that So all.

Speaker 2 (17:28):
Right, more coming up the Rod and Greg Show with
you on this Thursday and Talk Radio one oh five
nine knrs. I think it was on Monday, may have
been Tuesday. The Supreme Court heard a case involving various states,
and I guess Utah is one of them. I don't
know why we are, but it banned conversion therapy, right
the states ban on it. A a therapist in Colorado

(17:51):
took the case to court and said, you can't stop
my free speech. You can stop procedures, but not my
free speech. And that's the case that we're talking about, Greg.

Speaker 5 (17:58):
It is.

Speaker 1 (17:58):
It's a really fascinating case. And I remember being in
the legislature when we were when we passed a bill
that would that didn't allow for conversion therapy.

Speaker 5 (18:08):
And that was the.

Speaker 1 (18:10):
Snarky name of her was pray the Gay Away. But
they talked about electric electro therapy and things like that.
But those were in the days before the LGBTQ community
said no, we do want to convert. We wanted to
it through chemical castrations and surgical castration. I mean they
went completely over the other way and anyway. So this
is an issue that needed to be discussed. And joining

(18:31):
us on the program will be Carol mar who knows
something about this. Cheryl Marco is an No Pigeon contributor
at the New York Post. Carol, thanks for joining us
tonight before we talked about conversion therapy. Just your quick
reaction today to the announcement last night of a working
plan for petzs in the Mid East.

Speaker 12 (18:46):
It's really such an accomplishment by the Trump administration. It's
something that I don't think any other world leader could
have come close to achieving. The Biden administration didn't even
try to do this. It's been a rollercoaster of two
years with the war between Israel Hamas and Donald Trump
has just done what he said he was going to do.

(19:07):
He got elected on im going to end this war
and here he is ending that war. I think even
people who don't like the president should respect him for
this kind of action.

Speaker 1 (19:17):
Yeah, it was watching the news people hear from the
people they are interviewing. He prays on President Trump. You
could see the pain looked on their faces.

Speaker 5 (19:25):
They couldn't.

Speaker 1 (19:26):
It was just so hard to hear. But I'm surprised
that they haven't found a narrative that says that it
was a failure somehow, which is what I half expected
to hear. But let's switch gears. Let's talk about this
case before the Supreme Court. Let's talk about conversion therapy.
It's it's not what we're talking about today, where kids
are trying to convert or trying to transition to a

(19:47):
different sex. It's actually the opposite of that potentially, But
it's found itself illegal in states. I think even in
Utah we have a legislation that bans conversion therapy different
than transpar Maybe share with our listeners, what is this
case about, what do we tell going about with free speech?

Speaker 5 (20:00):
And where is this going?

Speaker 12 (20:03):
So there's a therapist out of Colorado who believes she's
a Christian and she believes that kids shouldn't transition try
to transition to other genders, which is you know, impossible,
And parents bring kids to her because she does talk
therapy with them and helps them accept the body that
they were born into. And the case is for the

(20:24):
Supreme Court is whether that talk therapy is allowed, and
it's called, you know, conversion therapy what she does. But
the truth is it's the other therapists who are actually
doing the conversion therapy. She's doing the accepting yourself as
you are therapy, they're doing the conversion therapy. So it's
interesting because the Supreme Court does seem poised to rule

(20:45):
in her favor, which of course is the right move here.
But Colorado has just become this breeding ground for these
cases where religious liberty is constantly being put on trial.
They had the masterpiece to the cake shop, and then
they had a website designer who didn't want to design

(21:06):
websites for you know, couples that were gay, couples getting married.
It's their prerogative what they want to spend their time doing,
and you can't force people to bake a cake or
to say the words. So I think the Supreme Court
is going to make the right call here.

Speaker 2 (21:21):
Well, you call this a free speech slim done, Carol,
and I've heard it broken down. Was Yeah, stage may
be able to ban certain procedures, not allow certain things
to happen. But you can't ban free speech, and that's
what this is all about, right, Does that come down
to free speech?

Speaker 4 (21:35):
Absolutely?

Speaker 12 (21:37):
Yeah, that's really what it is. She's not doing electroshock
therapy in her office. She's having conversations, and you can't
force the therapists to have conversations that she doesn't believe in.
She doesn't believe that the treatment that the state prescribes
for these kids will work, and so she used to
do whatever the state licenses her to do, which is

(21:57):
to provide therapy for these children.

Speaker 1 (22:01):
And everyone I hesitate to count my chickens before their hatch,
but everyone seems so bullish on the decision coming out
the way we hope it will.

Speaker 5 (22:11):
When will we know for sure?

Speaker 12 (22:14):
It should be in the next few days. But you know,
I think why they're bullish is because all of the
commentary coming out of the trial of the case seems
to be heading in that direction. So, for example, Sonya
Soda Mayor compared this therapist to a dietitian telling an
anorexic child not to eat. But that's not the case.

(22:36):
The case is actually the opposite. It's as if the
dietitian is telling her not to accept then inirective child
not to accept themselves as they are. This therapist is
saying you were born correct and you shouldn't change anything
about yourself. And that's what a dietician who has an
anorexic patient would do. They would say, you don't need
to diet. So I think that just the language coming

(22:58):
out of the store that we hear from inside the
courtroom are heading in the right direction.

Speaker 2 (23:04):
It seems so obvious. Isn't this therapist just using a
lot of compassion and trying to help these kids? I mean,
what is she doing so wrong? Carol?

Speaker 12 (23:13):
Yeah, you know. The other thing is that, and I
point this out in the piece, but it's not the
gay conversion therapy of the sixties and seventies, the electric
shock kind of thing. She's not doing anything to them.
She's actually just having conversations where she's saying, you are
good enough, you are You're perfect as is. And the
truth is that so many kids whould clear themselves trans

(23:34):
end up growing up and not saying that they're not trans.
There was a huge study out of the Netherlands that
followed all these kids, and the great majority of them
just turned away from being trans and went back to
their birth gender, So you know, she's helping them get
there quicker is what I think of it as, and
Colorado should.

Speaker 5 (23:53):
Allow her to do that. Yeah, I guess.

Speaker 4 (23:56):
I guess.

Speaker 1 (23:57):
My final question would be what will change once the
Supreme Court rolling comes out? If it comes out the
way we expect, I think it will impact Utah. It's
the counseling and the prohibitions around because they were calling
it prey the gay away, and they had different ways,
and they were actually mentioning the lectro shock. It was
part of that progress therapy that they were trying to stop.

(24:17):
And you've addressed that. But when do we see the
changes on the ground, When do we start to see
opportunities for kids that might have this gender dysphoria be
able to have a full range of counseling opportunities.

Speaker 12 (24:33):
I think we're heading in the right direction, We're not
quite there yet. I think they're the loud minority is
very effective and they get the laws passed in various
states and they push an agenda. But the majority of
the American people are on the side of sanity and
they're waking up and they're realizing what's happening to these kids,

(24:53):
and they're realizing that it needs to be stopped. I
think Donald Trump was elected on a lot of that.
I think he was on the return to sanity, and
I hope that we're going to see that happen.

Speaker 2 (25:04):
I think we will see that happen. Carol, and thank
you for joining us. Carol Moskowitz, a columnist at the
New York Post and by the sounds of it, the
courted same way a minute. You can't you can't stop
this therapist from speaking and saying what she wants to
about this. That's invasion of.

Speaker 1 (25:18):
Well Le's talk about how relevant it is now. I mean,
if we have kids uncomfortable in their bodies or they're
questioning their gender, gender dys for you at what an
important time for counselors who want to help them be
comfortable in the body they're born in to be able
to say as much you know, you share that now.

Speaker 2 (25:33):
All right, We've got a whole lot more coming up
on The Roden greg Show and Talk Radio one O
five to nine. Okay, Anna, We've had just come kind
of really type stories where you look and go really,
you know, you had the little girl or went to
a build a Bear shop, and they wouldn't make a
build a bear with Charlie Kirk's name on it. Yep,
we had that one. We had a guy being kicked
out of a card tournament because he refused to take

(25:55):
off as maga hat. That's right, remember that one? Yeah,
that one. Well, I've got a new one today. There
is a school district up in Vancouver, Canada, Canada. Yeah,
we expect emotion. Look at this a motion calling on
the Vancouver Park Board to officially apologize for hosting an

(26:15):
upcoming Harry Potter attraction m because JK Rallying, of course,
has come out against transgenderism, and the board is now
apologizing for having, you know, an event on Harry Potter,
which she wrote, of course.

Speaker 1 (26:31):
Well you know what, I I don't agree with the motivation,
but you know, I get the Harry Potter stuff gets
a little old with me. I mean, you come on,
the books are a lot how long? I mean we
have to still talk about Harry Potter and the.

Speaker 2 (26:40):
Well, we don't have to talk about it, but this
is how.

Speaker 1 (26:43):
This Hargwarts school or something, you know, the being treated.
I know, it's it's wrong, it really is wrong.

Speaker 2 (26:50):
And she has stood up. I mean she went after
one of the stars in it, yea Emma, Emma whatever
her name is. It really went after her too.

Speaker 1 (26:58):
She said, ground, nobody you know that was in the
movies or anything has to pledge, you know, allegiance to
what I believe. But you don't have to use your
the platform you've been given to go after me either.

Speaker 2 (27:08):
So yeah, it's just kind of crazy, but that's Canada.

Speaker 5 (27:11):
It is again.

Speaker 1 (27:13):
Yeah, they use monopoly money. They don't even use your
money there. Yeah, it's not it's all fake.

Speaker 2 (27:17):
Yeah. Yeah, they sound funny when they talk. Yeah a boat.

Speaker 1 (27:21):
Yeah, no, the I think Canadians. I every time Trump
would say I'm so glad he's off of it. When
he say fifty first state, I'd say, no, thank you. Yeah,
no way, stay where they are, all right.

Speaker 2 (27:31):
Our number two of the Roddy Greg Show is on
his way. We loved here from our listeners this hour
because we have, as you described, the greatest smartest audience
out there.

Speaker 5 (27:46):
One hundred percent.

Speaker 1 (27:47):
I find I find the calls and the the conversations
to be as good as anything else we do.

Speaker 5 (27:52):
So it's I like the five o'clock hour.

Speaker 2 (27:54):
Yeah, yeah, oh, shall we give that? How long? Has
it been since you've been on a snowmobile?

Speaker 5 (27:58):
You know it's been a while.

Speaker 2 (27:59):
Have you ever been on? I have a long time ago.
The same for me, And there's so much nicer now
that you know. I was around when the first one's.

Speaker 1 (28:08):
Those are called dog sleds. That's not a snowball. You've
got to it's you don't even know what it is.

Speaker 2 (28:12):
It was a matter of fact. They used to come
in two parts. That's how old I am.

Speaker 5 (28:16):
Oh, my goodness, you are admitting this.

Speaker 2 (28:18):
I'm admitting this. Yeah, yeah, I'm not. I'm not. I'm
not embarrassed by my age.

Speaker 1 (28:23):
It was a combustible engine or how did how did
it propel itself?

Speaker 2 (28:26):
It was a combuskable just check it. Yes it was.
But nowadays, I mean they they have handwarmers, seat warmers.
I mean, that's not snowmobile.

Speaker 1 (28:37):
When I were, I didn't have the handwarmers or seat warmers,
but I did. It was actually, you go to this
place and you just they have the snowmobile suit. You
just gear up and you jump on. You're right around
for an afternoon. You come back, get out of it,
go fun.

Speaker 2 (28:48):
It was fun. Well, the Utah snowmobile Exit ex bo
is underway. It's at the Western Sports Park in farm
It didn't begins tomorrow and get on Friday. And we
have a four pack of tickets to give away. Oh
good kind of fun.

Speaker 5 (29:03):
Yeah I can't. I'm not allowed to get them.

Speaker 2 (29:05):
No, well you can't get over that, can't think.

Speaker 5 (29:08):
I know people.

Speaker 2 (29:08):
You can't work for the company and give stuff away
and keep some of it for your own I wish
for yourself. You can't do that.

Speaker 5 (29:17):
Well, I swear you have. I swear you have done it.

Speaker 2 (29:20):
What that I've taken stuff? Are you accusing me?

Speaker 1 (29:22):
Not accusing? I think it wasn't a policy until I
showed up. Yeah, well they've made this policy because I
like all that stuff.

Speaker 2 (29:28):
Yeah, well there's a reason for that. All right. We've
got a four pack of tickets to the Utah Snowmobile
Expo this year. It's at the Western Sports Park up
in Farmington. Tickets or ten dollars at the gate with
children under twelve. If you bring your military ID, you
get fifty percent off your admission. Brought to you by
Snow West Magazine and Coral Malone Power Sports And right
now a four pack of tickets. Caller number ten shall

(29:49):
we say ten?

Speaker 5 (29:50):
Ten?

Speaker 2 (29:51):
All right? Caller number ten eight eight eight five seven
o eight zero one zero triple eight five seven o
eight zero one zero. If you're a caller number ten,
you could be on your way to the U to
US Snowmobile ex Bowl underway in For me too, a
lot of fun. Snowmobiles are fun. They are, but it's
been a while.

Speaker 5 (30:05):
For me too, it's been Yeah, I enjoyed it.

Speaker 2 (30:09):
Yeah, well, we aren't outdoor kind of people.

Speaker 1 (30:12):
Yeah, someone's got to plan all that because I'm not
going to own them. I'm not gonna someone have to
get me to go somewhere.

Speaker 8 (30:17):
I've done.

Speaker 2 (30:18):
One of the things that you did Bore. You go
to a place and they suit you up and you
get on a machine and you ride the trails. Yeah,
it was fun.

Speaker 1 (30:24):
It was You know if you go to Park City
and you go on that road and there's like, you
know that big barn that's got the flag on it
or whatever. There was like a road that goes back
and that's where I was where in that area.

Speaker 2 (30:33):
I went up to Daniel Summit, huh way up there,
and it's really nice.

Speaker 5 (30:38):
I had a blast.

Speaker 1 (30:39):
I don't know if that place is still out there,
that does it. But we had a great time.

Speaker 2 (30:42):
Yeah, that is fun. All right. Shall we talk about
the big news of the day.

Speaker 5 (30:46):
Which, well, I don't know what you're talking. There's a
lot of.

Speaker 2 (30:48):
Big there's a lot of big news. But the biggest
news of the day, no doubt, And it started breaking
as we were wrapping up the show last night, was
the President announcing that a deal has been reached between
Hamas and Israel on the first phase of a ceasefire
there in Godza. And the world today is just reacting
to it like crazy, Greg.

Speaker 1 (31:06):
And to give you an idea, and I think everyone
listens to the show understands the magnitude of that announcement.
But if it was lost on you, all you have
to see is the grimace on the face of the reporters.
Is they are having to admit as much as they
have never before or wanted to ever, the leadership and
the otherworldly strength of will of President Trump.

Speaker 2 (31:28):
Yeah. Yeah, here's some of the media reaction as the
story broke last night. Details weren't coming out as of yet,
but word of a deal. This is how they reacted.

Speaker 7 (31:36):
Well, certainly, this is an enormous moment for the world,
but also for this administration, a big win for the
president who has been very personally involved in this.

Speaker 2 (31:43):
Lindsay made no mistake. It looks like President Trump has
actually pulled off something here that many presidents before him
have failed to do. Anderson, momentous day. There's not much
good news in the world. This is great news. I
am trying to hold it together.

Speaker 5 (32:00):
Honestly worked on this issue a very long time.

Speaker 13 (32:03):
Donald Trump, on this one has demonstrated a degree of
will unlike any other president, Republican or Democrat. He is
pressed an Israeli Prime minister in a way that no,
none of his predecessors have ever done.

Speaker 2 (32:20):
And Greg even on MSNBC, which we know, yeah, they
do not like Donald Trump. They do not on that show.
But John Meakham, who is a presidential historian kind of
you know, he's been very critical of Donald Trump.

Speaker 5 (32:33):
It's been terrible.

Speaker 2 (32:34):
And David Ignatius, who used to write for the Washington Post,
we're on this morning and this is their reaction to
the news.

Speaker 14 (32:40):
Even if someone with whom you disagree about ninety nine
things does the hundred really well, you can say so,
because that's what intellectual honesty is. And so all credit
to President Trump and his, as you say, unconventional team.

Speaker 15 (32:59):
I can remember in the month or so after October
seventh and Israeli, a senior official saying to me, we
are so disoriented and traumatized by this war.

Speaker 2 (33:11):
The United States is.

Speaker 5 (33:12):
Going to have to make decisions for us.

Speaker 15 (33:14):
Joe Biden could never do that, and Donald Trump was
able to do it and did it at the decisive
moment when he said, essentially this war must end.

Speaker 2 (33:25):
Joe Biden couldn't do it. Barack Obama couldn't do it.
George W. Bush could not do it. George Helbert Walker Busch,
John Herbert Walker Bush, Bill Clinton. They could not do it.
But guess who got it done? Donald Trump.

Speaker 5 (33:37):
It is it's astounding.

Speaker 1 (33:38):
And when I saw the images of the people and
I didn't know that Tel Aviv had a hostage square
and I didn't know, And when I saw the people
there that were celebrating in Tel Aviv and Israel, and
at the same time you're seeing people on the streets
of the Gauza Strip celebrating. To have them celebrating the
same moment, the same news, I honestly didn't know that

(33:59):
I would ever see it like that it's it's just
almost disorienting.

Speaker 5 (34:02):
Yes, okay, yeah.

Speaker 1 (34:04):
You'd think when one side cheers in your I think
that those you know, Hamas is just a bunch of animals.
I you know, I have had very little patience or
sympathy for what they did or what they were holding
out for. But when you see people celebrating at the
same time those two countries, uh, you know, those two areas,
it's just it is, it's it's absolute shock, and it's
something that most people would have told you, including inside

(34:26):
that State department, that swamp of a state department, that
it could never actually happen.

Speaker 2 (34:30):
Well, you had to almost pinch yourself when you saw
that going. They're celebrating thing for the same Wow. You know,
the President talked about it today during its Cabinet need
a lot of praise for the President today, but I
think the best comment I've heard so far came today
from Marco Ruby, Oh, the Secretary of State.

Speaker 16 (34:48):
And I think what's important to understand is that yesterday
what happened was really a human story. There's a geopolitical
aspect to it, There's no doubt about it. It creates
the conditions for Gaza to want maybe a normal place
again and people to have better life in israelis to
be safe.

Speaker 2 (35:02):
But yesterday was a human story.

Speaker 16 (35:04):
And because of the work you put it, And honestly,
there is no not only is there no other leader
in the world that could have put this together, mister President,
but frankly, I don't know of any American president in
the modern era that could.

Speaker 2 (35:14):
Have made this possible.

Speaker 16 (35:15):
Because of the actions you have taken unrelated to this,
and because of who you are and what you've done
and how you're viewed, and this weekend, because of that,
at some point very soon, we are going to see
twenty living human beings emerge from the darkness into the
light for the first time in two years.

Speaker 2 (35:31):
A Marco Rubio pudabist. This is a human story and
that's what this is all about.

Speaker 1 (35:36):
It is and I'm telling you he threaded that needle
when he came out, when he when they had the
when they got with them, when they bombed Iran, and
Iran put up the white flag and said we want
to be done, we don't want this anymore. He negotiates
what that's going to look like, and in that negotiation,
as a ceasefire, they're going to stop bombing Iran, and
there's a timeline that's going to come, and that yahoo

(35:58):
in Israel, they want to get in their licks in
as much as they can before that that timeline, and
they just send all those bombers and they just go.
And it upset Trump because he felt like everybody could
finish whatever missions were in progress. He didn't want ones
to start and go after it. And that's when he
had that immortal those familial worlds, they don't know what
they're doing. And I left the word out, but he
was so frustrated in real time, and he's such a

(36:19):
transparent president that he said, they've been fighting for so long,
so hard, for so long, they don't know what they're doing.
And at that moment you knew this man is trying
to find that human story. He's trying to find peace
amongst two countries and in leaders. And that was Iran,
but it's also with Hamas. He had to get them
to work together. And I think what he did is

(36:39):
he actually I think he triangulated in an incredible way
with Turkey and with Egypt, and with and with Qatar
and other Arab nations and ally anyway, he brought people
together even Mark Secretarary of State Mark or Rubio mentioned
it in that same clip you there that when they
had that meeting in the UN, he convened a very
large meeting of leaders that probably dead and weren't used

(37:01):
to keep meeting together.

Speaker 5 (37:02):
No with the president, Hied states.

Speaker 2 (37:03):
So we'll talk more about how we did it and
the challenges now in place and what has to be done,
and your phone calls on this, we'd like to get
your reaction to it today eight eight eight five seven
eight zero one zero cell phone dial pound two fifty
are on our talk back line and just download the
iHeartRadio app, and of course look for that little red
microphone at the KNRS site and you can leave us

(37:24):
a message. We'll get to all your comments and more
thoughts on this coming up on the Thursday edition of
The Roden greg Show and Talk Radio one O five
nine KNRS. Welcome back to the show. I'm Rod Urkent.
All right, I'd like to get your theory. How did
Trump pull this off?

Speaker 11 (37:39):
Honey?

Speaker 2 (37:40):
How do you do it what? I've got a theory,
but I'd love to hear yours.

Speaker 1 (37:43):
I think it was a couple of things I think
he gets personally involved.

Speaker 5 (37:45):
He's not.

Speaker 1 (37:46):
He doesn't believe in this bureaucratic state department telling him
what's what and how they're going to do it. He's
going to himself make those personal contacts with the Arab nations,
the Musslim majority nations, with Israel. He's going to do
it himself. That's the first thing, and the second is
I think he understands the art of the deal in

(38:06):
terms of how do you bring disparate nations with different
cultures together. What it would be a common denominator. I
think economic prosperity. I think that's something that crosses whether
it's whether however that is however someone wants to live
a life of peace, and what that prosperity means your
economy or its existence means something about that. So in Turkey,
for example, they need their concern is defense and they

(38:29):
would like the opportunity to buy F thirty five's I think,
or at least F fifteen's. They had some needs, and
I think Trump was able to identify those, and every
country does to some agree, especially when you're working with
the United States, which has the largest economy and buying
everything and so anyway, I think those are the elements
that he used. And I think he just has a
strength of will where he just connects those dots and

(38:49):
then he just doesn't let it go.

Speaker 2 (38:50):
He's tis my theory. I have two points very similar
to yours, I think greg. First of all, mine is power.
Donald Trump is not afraid to use the power of
the United States. Yes, case in point, the attack on
the Iranian facilities, his reaction when Israel started bombing him
and he just got really upset. So he showed power.
And that goes back to when he took out the

(39:11):
general and it wasn't it was his first term. He
took out the Iranian general. He was not afraid to
show the the the Muslim nations. I'm not afraid. We're
going to use our power to stop this. And with
that power. He hates war, I mean he you know,
and he said it time and time again. He is
so frustrated with Ukraine and Russia right now, you know.

(39:33):
But maybe he turns his attention back to that. He's
tried several times, as Nim worked, but he's tried. But
I think he uses power. The other thing that I
think has happened, and you you know, how important are relationships,
Very important in politics and business and everything. Right, so
what does he do. He heads to the Mideast earlier
this year, holds a trip, goes to Saudi Arabia, meets

(39:55):
with other Arab leaders and establishes a relationship with them.
And I think they felt, all right, we can trust
this guy. We know him. He has said we can
bring economic prosperity to the region. He's been successful in
doing so. I believe he can do it here. We
can partner up. He understands that people are happy when
they have economic prosperity, right, you know. So he's a

(40:18):
transactional guy saying, look, I'll do this for you if
you buy into this twenty point plan I have on
trying to solve what's going on in God's And I
think those two elements right there were We're part of
how he got this done. Plus, he has very good negotiators.
He trusts people. With Kauf and his son in law,
you know, we're actively involved in this. He trusted him

(40:41):
because they know exactly what he's thinking and what he
wants to done. So he is a transactional president. One
other point, we've never had a maybe we a really
successful businessman run the United States of America. I don't
think we have. I mean, I'm trying to go back
as far as I can, but you know, we had generals, politicians, governors,

(41:04):
but never anyone with the business experience that Donald Trump has.
And I think he uses that. It is transactional and
that's how he operates, and that's how I kind of
think it came about.

Speaker 11 (41:14):
You know.

Speaker 5 (41:14):
And here's the thing.

Speaker 1 (41:15):
I think each one of his decisions they build on
each other. So you talk about Russia and Ukraine, I
think that what's happening in the Middle East right now
strengthens his hand, yes, and negotiating with or telling Putin,
we're not putting over with this anymore. I don't think
if anyone still thinks he's a puppet for Putin, I
don't know what planet.

Speaker 5 (41:31):
You live on.

Speaker 1 (41:31):
But he has given no love to that guy, and
he's trying to sort that out in a way that
you know, they can find some stock as you say,
stop the war, because that's the big priority. I love
when he goes on his Middle East tour or when
he lay I mean every there's a lot of people
that were really concerned when they bombed that Iranian those
sites that they thought that would start World War three.
It did not start it. They felt the strength because

(41:55):
his whether it was Iran or if it's his Middle
East tour, here's his messages.

Speaker 5 (41:59):
I've heard it.

Speaker 1 (42:00):
We can all, you know, work together, and we can
have beautiful lives and we can accomplish the things and
take care of our fans and have wonderful lives. And
we can all be on that same page. Or I can,
or we can turn into an ash tray because you're
attacking us and you're threatening us, and we can do
that too. Which which path would you like to take?
And I think that and you see that he means

(42:22):
it when he says it, because you've seen what you
saw what he did in Iran, and I think that
in the in the stuff that he did, in the
work that he did in his first term, you see
that he's not afraid to exercise the strength and the power.
He doesn't want war, but he's not going to let
the United States be threatened in any way. And so
if he sees a compelling interest that that America is
at risk, he will act. And I think that Sunday

(42:42):
deadline that he was talking about going forward, there was
a lot of things he was doing out there to
signal one, here's one path and here's another, but there's
going to be a path. We're not sitting on hold,
We're not we're not idling here. We're going to do something.
And I think that they respect President Trump that he
will do something. And that was what put I think
exposed Hamas to most is because they've been quietly being

(43:04):
supported by Turkey, by Egypt, by Saudi Arabia. They had
had the back channel support Iran to just keep causing
trouble with Israel, and they were that that land has
just been in turmoil forever. But when he was able
to pull them away from Hamas and they no longer
had those that quiet back channel support, I think that

(43:25):
they saw the writing on the wall.

Speaker 4 (43:26):
Yeah.

Speaker 2 (43:26):
I've got a few more thoughts. I know Greg does
on this as well, but we'd like to hear your
thoughts on it as well. Eight eight eight five seven
eight zero one zero Dial pound two fifteen and say
hey Rod, or leave us a talk message. Just download
the iHeartRadio apploic for knars dot com and click on
the little red microphone to leave us a thirty second coming.
Your calls, your comments, and more analysis of this very

(43:47):
important day right here on the Rod and Greg Show
and Talk Radio one oh five nine anrs.

Speaker 1 (43:52):
You know it's past your bedtime at eight fifteen, so
you hang on. You bet you can't, cause I lost,
you know, waiting in the place.

Speaker 2 (44:11):
I know that the guys on Fox Sports last night,
all right, we're talking about the Mid East PDL. How
did he get this done? Let's go to the phones.

Speaker 1 (44:20):
Greg, Yeah, let's go to Jim and who's been waiting
in Ogden? Jim, Welcome to the Riding Greg Show. What
do you think about the news?

Speaker 8 (44:26):
Great?

Speaker 17 (44:27):
I listened to you all the time.

Speaker 2 (44:29):
I'm thank you.

Speaker 17 (44:29):
I'm I'm guardedly excited about it. I don't trust a
mos worth anything, but I hope, I hope it gets
pulled off. They've signed, but they've signed things before. What
I'd like to do is plan a seed. And the
seed would be if this thing comes off, President Trump
will certainly be nominated for the Nobel Peace Prize and

(44:55):
if I would like to see him accept it, but
only if he can bring all the members from all
these all the other stakes that made this thing happen.
If he's said, huh yeah, we'll come, all of us,
and we'll be there, and we'll stand there. But this
is a this is a medal for all of us,

(45:15):
not for me.

Speaker 2 (45:16):
Boy, that would be quite a gesture, Jim. I like
that idea. The world stepped in and made this happen.
I think that's fantastic.

Speaker 11 (45:23):
Yet.

Speaker 5 (45:24):
Yeah, and I think his strength, Thank.

Speaker 6 (45:25):
You, Jim.

Speaker 17 (45:27):
He tends to be a real me guy.

Speaker 2 (45:29):
Yeah, he is, just slightly.

Speaker 1 (45:31):
I think I think it works for him. I think
it's worked for us. But I'll tell you this.

Speaker 5 (45:35):
He brings up a point.

Speaker 1 (45:37):
I I I mentioned that you this before the show.
What's the obsession with the Nobel Peace Price. It's like
it's like one of the New York Times to like you,
I I don't think Barack Obama got it without having
doing anything. Have you not lifted a finger? He got
the Nobel Peace Price. I think it's I think there
are a bunch of lefties. I don't know that I
would want their I'd say no, thanks about that.

Speaker 2 (45:58):
Would you?

Speaker 6 (45:59):
Yeah?

Speaker 2 (46:00):
Yeah, I'd take it. I'd no.

Speaker 1 (46:02):
I think I they we act like it's so important.
I say, it's always talked about, and I'm like, you
know what, I don't I don't think those are the
people who's approval we're looking for.

Speaker 2 (46:11):
Anyway, Rick and west Valley wants to weigh in on
this tonight, Rick, Welcome to the Rod and Greg Show.

Speaker 6 (46:18):
Hey, good evening.

Speaker 18 (46:20):
My take is, he's Villa and ice here in America.
All over the place, no matter what he does, he's
in the wrong, or it's the wrong point of view,
or he's he's guilty of everything. But on the world stage,
he's been this peacemaker that's ended seven wars and brought
all of these countries together.

Speaker 5 (46:39):
It's amazing, Rick, what a great observation.

Speaker 1 (46:42):
You're right, I mean, look at how not just they're
not just in the Middle East, but look at you know,
you had Pakistan and India ready to go, and they
both are nuclear nations, they have nuclear capabilities. I mean,
you had them at each other's throat. They he calmed
the waters there. He's done this all over the world,
and I think Rick is exactly right. I don't it's
I don't know if it's fear. I don't know if
it's respect. But I'll tell you what he he does

(47:05):
command a respect around the world, and they and they
actually if he makes a commitment or he says that
America will be in a certain place. I think they
not only do they want it, they trust to what
he's saying that he can bring that to bear. And
I think that's a that's a strength of negotiation that
we haven't seen from a president.

Speaker 5 (47:21):
Uh that I can remember.

Speaker 2 (47:23):
Well, two quick notes before to go to re call it.
It pained journalists last night and again this morning to
praise President Trump for what he did. And what are
they doing tonight because I've been switching between CNN and
MSNBC here in the studio, they aren't talking about this.
Guess what they're talking about, James. Oh yeah, you.

Speaker 1 (47:44):
Got to get into that, get to a new topic,
because this one, if you go to the peace in
the Middle East, you know, never have a name on
his lifetime.

Speaker 5 (47:49):
But they got to get over that one.

Speaker 2 (47:50):
Because let's go to Rob and Sandy. Rob, welcome to
the Rod and Greg Show.

Speaker 8 (47:57):
I have two things to say, and I'll be quick.
First of all, your tort me struck me. What you
said there, Rodd about we've never had a businessman as
a president. What we've had in the past, in my opinion,
is politicians that were being bought off by corporations that
really just you know, drove their agendas. And that's why I.

Speaker 4 (48:19):
Think we've gotten in this mess.

Speaker 8 (48:20):
I mean, can you imagine how much money through campaign
financing has been laundered like they did with those NGOs.

Speaker 2 (48:27):
Oh yeah, you know, yeah, you know.

Speaker 8 (48:32):
But but the other thing I wanted to do. The
other thing I wanted to say, is this whole thing
and Israel and Gonza I would been watching this my
whole life. Yeah, And if we just do the same thing,
I think it's not going to stick. I think we've
got to do something, think outside the box on this one.

Speaker 4 (48:50):
On the next move here.

Speaker 2 (48:52):
Yeah, I would agree with you on that, Rob. And
I think the move that Donald Trump is making, and
you and I Greg have talked about this. Donald Trump,
I think believes that people are happy when they have
food on the table, a place to live, an economy
where they have money in their pocket. And I think
that's what drives a lot of this. He is trying
to tell these leaders, create economic prosperity in your countries

(49:16):
and you won't have this, you won't have this violence.

Speaker 1 (49:19):
I think that's part of his boy and what buttresses
that case that you're making is the comments from Secretary
of State Marco Rubio, who said, this is a human story.
There's a geopolitical narrative here, but this, on its most
basic level was a human story.

Speaker 2 (49:34):
The story. You're right. Let's go to Kathy in Dwila tonight. Kathy,
Welcome to the Roding Gregg Show.

Speaker 4 (49:41):
Hello, and thank you.

Speaker 2 (49:42):
You're welcome.

Speaker 4 (49:45):
First of all, I really like Jim's comments before because
again I have a little bit of concern that this
isn't going to be one hundred percent deal done.

Speaker 2 (49:54):
Yeah.

Speaker 4 (49:54):
Secondly, just a thought came to me that I appreciate
what Trump has been doing, but I hate that it's
going to take ten years off of his life. But
we still leave a legacy versus Finally, as with every.

Speaker 5 (50:08):
President, I know, I know you're catching.

Speaker 11 (50:10):
Your ro.

Speaker 4 (50:13):
And I am a budget traveler and I have been
to Israel three times and you know what, I stayed
in the Gaza strip without knowing where I was at,
and I'll be down is the lady who ran the
little hotel or whatever. It was not a hotel, but
you know it told me, she said, you know, park
your car right in front of my window. I'm going

(50:34):
to watch it for you tonight and I went, what
where am I? What am I doing? So again, those
people are people. They're humans. I have met many of them.
Not that I agree with a lot of what they do,
but oh my gosh, we're all humans and all equal.
And he does deserve kudos. And I am excited that
he's a businessman, even though I know businessmen get their

(50:57):
cutting corners a lot of the times. I'm just sad
that it will take a few years off their's life,
but can be accomplished.

Speaker 2 (51:05):
Boy, he sure has accomplished. They think you need to
cut off to get to a break? Well said, all right,
we've got some of those questions. So the world is
still holding his breath on a lot of these things.
We'll talk about that when we come back right here
on the Rotting Greg Show and Talk Radio one oh
five nine k NRS. Question I think has to be
is Hamas gonna comply?

Speaker 5 (51:25):
And I think they.

Speaker 1 (51:25):
I think there was an announcement some leader in AMAS
says that they has said publicly that they are planning
to comply.

Speaker 2 (51:32):
I have very turning over releasing the hostages.

Speaker 5 (51:36):
Yeah, and I saw that because if.

Speaker 2 (51:38):
They do that, they lose their leverage, don't they?

Speaker 1 (51:40):
They do, But I think they've lost a lot of
the support that they'd had, the quiet support that they
had enjoyed, or the funding, whatever it may be, they've
lost all that, I think, And so they're out there
on a limb, on their on their own, and they
know they're outgunn and outnumbered, and so I think they're
they this is probably just almost basically survival at this
point because they've lost allies everything else. But I am

(52:02):
cautiously optimistic like our callers, our listeners are, and I'll
tell you that the only measure for success for me
on this right now is the return of those hostages
alive and remains. If that happens, I don't know what
happens after that, but that's the part that I think
is so essential to those families who've been waiting, and
those people that have been living in haven't seen I

(52:23):
heard it said they haven't seen daylight in two years.
I mean, I can't even imagine what's been going on.
But so I just think that is that is the
goal here, and once that happens, if Hamas does not
want to comply by withdrawing from the Goauz's strip, if
they don't want to disappear, because that's the best option
they have. They're never going to govern, They're never going
to do that, but and they're being given I think

(52:45):
like you can safe passage, you can disappear, but you're
never going to be seen again.

Speaker 5 (52:50):
Yeah.

Speaker 1 (52:51):
I think that's that remains to be seen if they'll
do all that. But I think that the for me,
the biggest hope I have is that the remains and
the actual live hostages really or return.

Speaker 2 (53:01):
If that does happen, Israel has to comply as well.
They've got to pull back a little bit.

Speaker 1 (53:05):
And I think they have some prisoners that are Palestinianah.

Speaker 2 (53:08):
Some prisoners that they have there are a couple of
them that they don't want to release, So that may
be a sticking point. Yeah, I think that's the question.
The other thing is apparently we're getting word tonight that
some US troops may be on the ground there.

Speaker 1 (53:17):
Yeah, aware, we reported two hundred US troops will be
monitoring what the We'll have to see ye.

Speaker 2 (53:26):
All right, when we come back, what's going on with
Utah tech and the d EI laws in this state.
We'll talk about that and the mental inheritance of poverty
that's coming up in our number three.

Speaker 1 (53:38):
Congressman Rocanna has called on Virginia Democrat nominee for Attorney
General Jay Jones, who wrote the homicidal texts a couple
of years ago, fantasizing about then putting two bullets in
the head of the then House speaker, Republican House speaker
and saying that you've got to bring pain for people
to get to your to accept your policies, your public policies.

(54:00):
He's calling for him to drop out of the race,
and that would be the first high profile Democrat I've
seen to break ranks and to call for j Jones
call for the obvious, and that is that he was
certainly not suited to be the top law enforcement official
of Virginia, of any state, any any political subdivision. He's
not even fit to be the top law enforcement in
his own home. I would say that the guy's alone,

(54:21):
he needs to be removed. So he calls for that.
He also thinks that Katie Porter, with all the talk
about her and the things she's saying and anyway, that
she should hold a long press conference to explain herself
and be better understood. And then he says that the
government should reopen. Yes, well, I guess that's a wish
list he's sharing. But they're all they're all different. You've

(54:43):
not heard any other Democrat talk like that.

Speaker 2 (54:45):
Well, speaking of the race involving Jay Jones, support for
him apparently is just.

Speaker 1 (54:52):
It should just I'm appearing, well, it should be common sense.
You hear someone speak like that, and I don't know.
You wouldn't want him to have any I would You
wouldn't want him for dog catcher, but ag it's even
worse to call him attorney general.

Speaker 5 (55:06):
I mean, look, I mean he says you got to
bring pain.

Speaker 1 (55:08):
Isn't that what the guy that lit all the palisades
on fire he's trying to He's one of those climate alarmists,
so he lit it all on fire and hopes that
that's going to further their political agenda.

Speaker 5 (55:18):
Make a little make him feel a little pain.

Speaker 2 (55:20):
And of course the major news networks, legacy media hardly
pay any attention to that story.

Speaker 1 (55:26):
Well, it's it was Zeros as of yesterday. I wonder
if we Rocanna is going to actually make him talk
about it.

Speaker 2 (55:31):
Maybe you should be all right, there's been a real
battle over DEI here in the state of Utah. What
have we done? Legislatures basically come out and said no
more DEI programs on our college as the university.

Speaker 1 (55:41):
Estate institutions of higher learning are not to have DEI
programs on campus at all, administration anything.

Speaker 2 (55:48):
And we know what has happened. They've kept the programs,
just changed the names. Yes, is what has happened. Well,
Accuracy in Media has released a new video. This is
that Utah Tech University down there in Saint George. It's
director of Student Resource Center director. His name is Driscilla Bottoms,
I think is their name, admitting that the university is
continuing diversity, equity and inclusion despite state restrictions. Now here's

(56:13):
just a little bit of that hidden camera video.

Speaker 12 (56:16):
I'm just glad to hear that y'all are still doing
equity work, and we are.

Speaker 3 (56:20):
We just do it a little differently.

Speaker 19 (56:21):
And I mean that since stort got fine, we were
really fortunate because some places just fire people and.

Speaker 11 (56:27):
We narry that.

Speaker 19 (56:28):
We just kind of realign what we do and doc
and undocumented. It doesn't fall under a race. So we
still keep those services here. Everybody apartment and that's new.
It's under academic, not under it's not under services at all.

Speaker 2 (56:44):
So they kept they kept the people, they kept the idea,
but they just changed the name. Great Yeah, and other
other universities here in the state have done that as well.

Speaker 1 (56:53):
It's a big concern, and I appreciate the work that
they're doing to uncover that because it's it's it certainly
doesn't all of the legislative intent, and I'm a little
sensitive to that. I think had how to be followed,
and I think that lawmakers when they get in the
next session probably should look at the bill they passed
and look for these unintended consequences to be addressed so
that the bill actually means something.

Speaker 2 (57:14):
Adam Golett is the president of Accuracy and Media. He
joins us on our Newsmaker line right now to talk
more about this. Adam, why did you decide to take
a look at Utah Tech University.

Speaker 11 (57:24):
Well, we've investigated universities across the country because we suspected
that perhaps rather than actually stopping and pushing radical ideas,
they might just camouflage it, they might just disguise it.
And what we thought at Utah Tech, and I have
to say also at another Utah university, is that all
this law meant to them was that they had to
print new business cards.

Speaker 5 (57:45):
That's our nightmare.

Speaker 1 (57:47):
I mean, that is the worst case scenario, because we
saw our legislature past important legislation that would take this,
this whole focus and this issue out of our schools,
our higher institutions of higher learning, state institutions of higher learning.
You're not a lawmaker, so I mean they're going to
have to deal with whether the law is being followed
or not. But how do you you're showing that this
is pretty hard to police, How on the how on

(58:07):
earth do we undo this? How do you get the
tube back in the toothpaste, the toothpaste back in the tube.
If you're finding this on and this can't be the
only example, you're just finding it so pervasive you can
find it, how do we correct it?

Speaker 11 (58:20):
Excellent question. So of all of the states that banned
DEI in higher education, all of those laws, with what exception,
are worse than worthless because they accomplish nothing and provide
a false sense of security. These people are unaccountable. They
think they're above the law. You can see on video
they brag and they're so proud of how they circumvent
the state law. The only solution is to do what

(58:41):
Kansas did and pass a law that has a reporting
mechanism and actually has legal consequences because when people think
of higher education, they think, oh, it's full of lefty professors.
Well that is the case, but that's now the least
of our problems. In the past ten years, they've hired
twenty administrators for every one faculty member. And these administrative positions,

(59:04):
which are driving up the cost of tuition, are all
activist positions. These are the DEI positions, the LGBTQ positions. Essentially,
these are taxpayer funded activists at public universities and they
will not let the law tell them.

Speaker 6 (59:17):
What to do.

Speaker 2 (59:18):
Adam, you mentioned, of course Kansas, but you also talk
about your home state in Florida. What did Ron descentens
do in Florida.

Speaker 11 (59:25):
Well, we've done some pretty good things in Florida in
that they brought in good university presidents. They reshaped New College.
New College was one of the most radicalized universities in
the country. They wiped out the board, they wiped out
a ton of the administrative positions, and because they read
the writing on the wall, many of the other administrators
left as well. But we need to fundamentally reshape higher
education in America and focus it on education rather than activism,

(59:51):
because again, we've created essentially taxpayer funded activist institutions that
have at mid school on the side. That's what these
universities are now, and we all want to believe, well, yes,
there may be a little lefty, but that's not really true.
I'm so sorry because I've trained college students in forty
eight states, which is most of them in every college campus.
I show up and they tell me, Adam, you wouldn't

(01:00:12):
believe how bad it is here. It's like that every year.
You would expect it in Berkeley and in Boulder. But
there's no reason Red states should be funding with tax
dollars radicals who break the law and push ideologies, and
an institution that claims to be focused on higher learned.

Speaker 1 (01:00:29):
So you know you're talking, it's gits broader. So the
question is is this even Are we just chasing good
money after a bad effort. Honestly, I start to wonder
when you see Harvard has a fifty three billion dollar fund,
you know, trust funder, whatever it is, and they're getting
federal money hundreds of millions of dollars. That's running in
a deficit. There's the tuition is still going up in
these schools, and when you look at the other schools,

(01:00:50):
they don't have that large of an endowment, but they
these are The interest gained on those things are billions
of dollars a year. So my question is, instead of
having places at radical our kids, is there a hard reset?
Do we start looking at trades? Do we start looking
at other things that have a return on investment for
our young and emerging workforce?

Speaker 11 (01:01:10):
Exactly? It. Harvard's such a great example because they've got
an endowment in the tens of billions of dollars, bigger
than the GDP of some countries, yet the taxpayers give
them over one billion dollars annually. Why why are we
funding radicalized activists who hate our country, who hate our values.
If you want to have some organization like that, not yourself,
dont make a five to' one C three charity, create

(01:01:31):
your activist group, create a pactic goal for it. I
shouldn't have to fund it, especially when it's a private institution,
But when it's a public university in a red state,
why are we funding taxpayer funded activists who break the law?
And I get that a lot of the elected officials
are uncomfortable because it makes their laws look worthless, which
suggests that either they passed a really poor law, or

(01:01:54):
they didn't know what they were doing, or they did
it and they were just trying to virtue thing over
their base. I don't know what the situation was in
these states that banned DEI, but what I do know
is these laws accomplish nothing. You need a Kansas style
law that actually has a reporting mechanism with consequences, and
you need to eliminate, eliminate these activist positions called administrators

(01:02:15):
at your public universities.

Speaker 2 (01:02:16):
You know what I thought was so funny, Adam, I
watch your video. You caught this official red handed. Yet
she denied it and said, well, was taken out of context.
Do you run into that all the time.

Speaker 11 (01:02:29):
Well, that's the fun thing, And it plays out the
same way every time when I confront them, First they
deny it, then I pull out the tablet showing the
videotape of them saying and bragging about breaking the law,
and then most of the time they tell me to leave.
And what was so funny in this instance is that
this radicalized leftist who gets funded with your tax dollars.
She promptly had her staff called the police. And I

(01:02:51):
don't know them, I don't know where they were in
the summer of twenty twenty, but I've kind of imagine
that these leftists are very much the defund the police type.
But of course the first thing they do is when
they find something that don't like. They called the police
and claimed there was a violent altercation. So I went
out and met with law enforcement officers and they said,
we have to detain you because we heard there was
a violent altercation. And I said, well, great news. I've

(01:03:14):
got video footage of the entire thing. She could probably
go and prosecute whoever filed a false police report with you,
because I've got footage of all of it. There was
no violence at all, except you know, the hatred that
you could see in her eyes.

Speaker 2 (01:03:25):
Adam Galette, President of Accuracy in Media. Adam, thanks for
joining us at Hidden Camera the e I greg, I mean,
there's a state law says get rid of it, isn't there?

Speaker 5 (01:03:34):
There is and it's not.

Speaker 1 (01:03:36):
And if you find and look, I will say this
about state government, just bureaucracy, but state government, as I
remember it at being a a state lawmaker is that
they you will find bureaucrats that try to find workarounds,
they will try to circumvent what bills have been passed.
It's why the legislature has an Administrative Rules Committee. It's
a committee that doesn't have a regular scheduled hearing. But

(01:03:56):
when if you come across state agencies that are violent
the law or you think it is, you can make
those complaints and you can put that in front of
the chairs. Right now, it's Senator Dan McKay and Representative
Trevor Lee, they're the chairs of that committee. And you
can bring the agency in front and say, look, we
understand this is how it's being applied. Are you following

(01:04:17):
the law and have them explain how they're following it
or how they're getting around it. And so there's an
accountability there. It's a legislative branch that when you're part time,
it's not a part time branch. It's a part time service.
It's a full time branch. And so you expect those
laws you passed to be adhere to. This one certainly
is not this DEI law they passed. As you know,

(01:04:38):
Adam said, we need like the Kansas part that has
a reporting requirement and a penalty if they violate.

Speaker 2 (01:04:45):
If they violate, should be all right. We've got a
lot more to get to as you work your way
home with us on this Thursday and Talk Radio one
five nine k n RS poverty and is there a

(01:05:11):
mental inheritance when it comes to poverty. There's apparently a
big poverty news or conference or somemit held here in
the state of Utah yesterday, and we'll talk more about that.

Speaker 8 (01:05:21):
Uh.

Speaker 2 (01:05:21):
One of our speakers, well one of the speakers there,
but also down to the one is that the one
Utah Summit. One spoke at that summit, and he'll be
joining us to talk about poverty and the challenges facing
people who are poor. Now, we mentioned earlier what had
happened in Vancouver. That's right, That's that's the city up
in Canada for those of you who don't know.

Speaker 1 (01:05:43):
And I took that opportunity to criticize Canadians, and I
said that they play with money, they don't have real currency, and.

Speaker 2 (01:05:50):
They speak funny, They talk funny, talk funny.

Speaker 1 (01:05:52):
I should say, well, you know, leave it to Canada
to you know, want to ban A Harry Potter themed
event had an emergency meeting to to stop that from
happening because they just can't stand JK Rowling, And so
we talked about how silly that was. Well, we like
to keep you updated because that's that is an evolving story.
It appears because I'm now reading a reply from JK

(01:06:14):
Rowling herself on X really really, Yes, she's heard about this,
and she said, to be honest, I didn't even know
Vancouver Parks and Recreations had avowed me. So the disavowal
hasn't been seen, hasn't been much of a blow. Next time,
send me a certificate of a vowel. Wait until I've
proudly framed it, hung it over my PC and taken

(01:06:35):
a selfie with it, then revoke it. And someone said, oh,
I don't know if JK rowing will ever get over this,
and she replies and says, I wouldn't say never, but
with time, therapy and the support of my family, I
anticipate that I'll be able to hear the words Vancouver
Parks and Recreations without suffering a serious breakdown within two

(01:06:55):
or to three years.

Speaker 5 (01:06:57):
Yes, So a.

Speaker 1 (01:06:58):
Little mockery going back way of the old Vancouver Parks
and wreck and well deserved and doesn't seem like she's
she didn't know that they had avowed her, so the
disavowal really doesn't really.

Speaker 2 (01:07:10):
Yeah. Well, the story is, of course, the parks Board
or whatever it was, was going to hold a JK.
Rowley event, Harry Potter Harry Potter event, and of course JK. Rowley,
the author of those books, and apparently the trans community
and the gay community up there in Vancouver got very,
very upset and the park board said no, we're gonna
pull it. Yeah, and JK responded.

Speaker 1 (01:07:30):
It's like, well, if you want to disavow me, you
shouldn't avow me first, and then you can disavow.

Speaker 2 (01:07:34):
Maybe maybe you should disavow. Yeah. Oh one quick note.
I saw this today and I'd love Steve Moore's Committee
to Unleashed Prosperity. The email he sends up to get
Steve on the show today to talk about the shutdown,
but we couldn't reach him. But yeah, yeah, he did popular.
He is US city. He's losing the most residents. Which

(01:07:57):
city do you think has lost the most residents in
the last.

Speaker 5 (01:08:00):
Year, New York City?

Speaker 2 (01:08:02):
You're right, three hundred and twenty seven five twenty two people.

Speaker 1 (01:08:06):
I honestly focus, I don't know that five years but
I but I knew because I don't have the luxury
of opinion.

Speaker 2 (01:08:11):
Second, I just you just know. Second, San Francisco makes sense.
Fifty thousand, eight sixty six. Third, Philadelphia. You're not a
fan of Philly as a whole. I don't even know
how people live there to start with. I don't even
know how they got population in Philadelphia beyond you know,
Independence Hall and you know the Revolutionary War.

Speaker 5 (01:08:30):
But yeah, no, that that place is terrible.

Speaker 2 (01:08:32):
You know, speaking of Philly. Last night, they're in the
playoffs right now.

Speaker 1 (01:08:35):
Yeah, they had the Dodgers, had a big street. They
beat the Dodgers.

Speaker 2 (01:08:39):
Yeah, and I felt so sorry, you know why, Clayton Kershaw,
who I think is one of the great pictures out there.
They put him out in relief and he got bombed.

Speaker 5 (01:08:48):
Well the first inning, he didn't that he pitched the second.

Speaker 2 (01:08:51):
Yeah, it was. And he is a great, great picture.

Speaker 5 (01:08:55):
Yeah, he's a he was a good penny. He was
a good picture.

Speaker 2 (01:08:58):
People are comparing him to Sending Fax, who was in
the stand in the stands last night watching the Guy,
And I just felt sorry for Clayton Kershaw.

Speaker 1 (01:09:05):
Why they set him up for failure? There didn't what
they score eighteen runs on the Yeah it was. I
turned it off. It was becoming so it was such
a kill. I just stopped watching.

Speaker 2 (01:09:15):
Yeah, poor guy, all right? Mare Coming up the Rod
and Greg Show on Utah's Talk Radio one oh five
nine k NRS. This is a crazy story. The biggest
great white shark ever recorded in the Atlantic has resurfaced
just off the coast of Canada, where he is fattening
up on seals ahead of the winter. Nice.

Speaker 5 (01:09:34):
Yeah, well you know jaws know that that's real.

Speaker 2 (01:09:39):
Yeah, he is, uh fourteen feet long. Wow.

Speaker 1 (01:09:43):
They when you say the largest one, you're not as
you're saying that this there's one and they're just tracking it.
You said it showed up. Is it the same one
that showed up?

Speaker 2 (01:09:50):
Yeah, they tried. Apparently they the uh oh, the tracker
they have on him only transmits a locating signal when
they shark's dorsal fin is briefly exposed above the water.

Speaker 5 (01:10:03):
Surface, and it's been disappeared for a while.

Speaker 2 (01:10:06):
And they'll go down deep and they can't track it.

Speaker 5 (01:10:09):
How long do they lose track of it?

Speaker 2 (01:10:11):
I don't I don't have all the answers to that. Oh,
it's just in this story.

Speaker 5 (01:10:15):
Fourteen feet long, that is a serious great white shark.

Speaker 2 (01:10:17):
How big is its room?

Speaker 5 (01:10:20):
It's it would be longer than this room.

Speaker 2 (01:10:22):
I really, I'll walk it off.

Speaker 5 (01:10:24):
I'll walk I'll walk it. I can walk off. How
many feet it is?

Speaker 2 (01:10:26):
Wow? Fourteen feet long? How'd you like to run in
that into the water?

Speaker 5 (01:10:33):
Yeah, I probably is white, probably as long as.

Speaker 2 (01:10:35):
It's no, this is twenty feet this gotta be twenty
feet yeah, probably, Yeah, but fourteen feet long. Up in Canada.

Speaker 5 (01:10:41):
Eating seals, that's kind of sad for the sea.

Speaker 2 (01:10:43):
It's hungry, you know, seals are. Apparently they fatten up
for the winter. I didn't know that.

Speaker 5 (01:10:47):
I didn't either.

Speaker 2 (01:10:48):
Okay, all right, things you learn on this show a
right that does it for us. Tonight, head up, shoulders back.
May God left you and your family, and there's a
great countrey of hours. We're back tomorrow at for

All Episodes

Episode Transcript

The Rod & Greg Show News

Popular Podcasts

Stuff You Should Know

Dateline NBC

The Breakfast Club

.css-15opob5{left:0;position:absolute;top:0.8rem;} All Episodes

.css-14f5ked{margin:0;word-break:break-word;display:-webkit-box;-webkit-box-orient:vertical;box-orient:vertical;-webkit-line-clamp:2;overflow:hidden;}The Rod and Greg Show: Utah Tech Univ. Exposed for Continuing DEI Practices

Episode Transcript

The Rod & Greg Show News .css-1q01m3q{margin:0 0 -2px 0;}

Popular Podcasts

.css-r6mb8g{margin:0;word-break:break-word;display:-webkit-box;-webkit-box-orient:vertical;box-orient:vertical;-webkit-line-clamp:1;overflow:hidden;}Stuff You Should Know

Dateline NBC

The Breakfast Club

All Episodes