The Rod and Greg Show w/ Carolyn Phippen: Senator Mike Lee; Derek Miller of the Salt Lake Chamber of Commerce

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Speaker 1 (00:00):
Folks, we have a great show for you today. We've
got a lot happening. It's one hundred days, one hundred
days that President Trump has been it feels like three
hundred feels like you'd be I think a lot has
gone on. Yeah, we want to dedicate this show to
those hundred days. What's happened, take a little inventory on
the state of things right now. And we have some
great guess they're going to join us on the show.

(00:20):
We're going to have our good old senior Senator from Utah,
Mike Lee, joining us on a program this hour. You're
not gonna want to miss it. We'll also have Derek Miller.
Derek Miller is runs that you sawid Chamber of Commerce.
I've worked with him. He used to be a Governor
herb Or. Yeah, Governor Herbr's chief of staff. I've known
there for a long time. Loved the article about how
is you talking to position itself as Trump is looking

(00:42):
to re align trade partnerships around the world using tariffs's
leverage for different so reciprocal trade agreements are a dependency
on China. All those things that are happening in real time,
How is is you talking to? Wait and just react
to what the reality is. Are we looking forward? I
think you're going to enjoy the interview. I think Derek
Miller's an incredible strategy for the day of Utah, and

(01:02):
we'll talk to him later in the program. We're going
to talk also about we got some clips. Boy, we
got some crazy times in front of us. We've got
a lot of people that want to define what the
first hundred days of Trump's presidency looks like.

Speaker 2 (01:15):
And we're one hundred days of Trump will give you
a whole lot of clips.

Speaker 1 (01:20):
So but they're in and they have a lot of
you know, as you can imagine, the Democrats would love
the American people to believe that this hundred days was
just again fascism or Nazism or something like that. But
we'll go over that. I mean, because I think in
the five o'clock hour, it's the hour we love Rod
and I love to go to you, the audience and say,
what what do you think about all this? I'd like
some grades on this hundred days. I feel like it's

(01:40):
been one of the more transparent presidencies we've ever seen.
I think there's issues that they are confronting in real
time that we get to in real time watch happen.
A lot of concerns about this economy. We're gonna get
into the economy, see how you feel about that, what happens.
Got a great clip of an MSNBC reporter that want
to he's that they're at a MAGA rally and just
wants to say, are you ready for everything to be

(02:02):
so bad? And the response from the person that they're interviewing.
I love watching these MSNBC reporters get schooled. So we'll
play a little bit of that later on the show.
We're gonna also talk about our chiefs of police, or
actually not just chiefs of police. We'll be speaking with
a chief of police, Brad Bishop. However, we're gonna talk
about law enforcement career day. I don't know if you know, Carolyn,

(02:25):
but having worked with the sheriffs as I do county sheriffs,
a lot of the multi generational careers in a family
of law enforcement. You have people law enforcement looking around
over the since twenty twenty and the George Floyd writ
saying we're getting painted as the bad guys. We're in
a naturally dangerous job, and the narrative out there is
that we are the ones that are the are the enemy.

(02:47):
And so you see a lot of people discouraging their
kids from entering in the law enforcement or have and
so there's just been a lot of challenges there. We're
not seeing this emerging workforce enter into law enforcement as
a career as we used to see, which is scary
because you're seeing the retirement happening too. So I don't
know how you keep law and order, and I don't

(03:08):
know how we keep things stable if we don't have
if if we don't stop or prevent lawlessness. And so
there's an important career day that starts tomorrow, and we're
gonna hear from Chief Brad Bishop about that career day
and that event and how to draw young people into it.
Is it is protect and serve. It is a It
is a profession of dignity and of service and one

(03:29):
that we should all be appreciating. And so we're gonna
talk to him on the show and much much more
coming on the program. So one hundred days, what's your
what's your first takeaway, Carolyn, when you think of one
hundred days with this president? What what comes to mind?
What do you think is different now than the most
The biggest contrast.

Speaker 2 (03:49):
Maybe, yeah, what leadership, And I would say that's a
massive contrast between what was going on, you know, six
months ago and now. But it is also a significant
contrast between now and what has been taking place historically
in Washington, DC.

Speaker 3 (04:06):
As a whole.

Speaker 2 (04:07):
Yes, for many years we have seen we've listened to
people in elected office say the same things over and
over and over again, and we have not seen a
lot of people who are willing to just charge through
and change the status quo in such a way that

(04:27):
will allow for some of the changes that everybody knows
have to happen to actually happen.

Speaker 1 (04:33):
Well, I think that I would agree with everything you said.
I think that challenging the status quo because if it
was easy and impactful, it's already been done. The hard
stuff is what this president and his administration's tackling. But
a lot of people are framing that is chaos or uncertainty. Yes,
you got a stock market that if they don't their
time horizons the next couple hours and if you don't

(04:54):
give them some certainty there, then they think that they're
going to try and play on that and play on
the fear of that. They asked Lee's Elden. This is
great from Fox Business. They asked Lee's Elden, the secretary
of the EPA Environmental Protection Agency, what he thought was
was the first hundred days, you know what the accomplishment was.

(05:17):
Let me see if I can find this really quick here, okay,
first hundred days. Let's go right here to this one.
Let me get my buttons. So you know, is this
NASA like board that Rod has. I mean, he does
all this work usually I got but I got it down.
I'm good. You ready, Here we go. Let's hear. Let's
hear the question posed. And the question was posed. Tell

(05:37):
us in the president first hundred days and the EPA,
what do you think you've done?

Speaker 4 (05:44):
Well?

Speaker 5 (05:44):
Listen.

Speaker 6 (05:44):
On the environmental front, I would look at the Los
Angeles wildfires. The President gave us thirty days to remove
our has has the hazardous materials before the Army Corps
came in for debris removal.

Speaker 1 (05:55):
Last week, I was.

Speaker 6 (05:56):
In San Diego, where we're working hard to end the
sewage coming in from Mexico into the Tijuana River and
into the United States. There were new standards on water
quality and Delaware River basin. On another front, because I
believe that we can both protect the environment and grow
the economy. We announced on March twelfth what amounts to

(06:17):
the largest deregulatory action in the history of the country,
trillions of dollars of regulatory relief coming that will bring
down the cost of living is actually more.

Speaker 1 (06:28):
You know what I love about that I've been on
You haven't been on this show, but our listeners will know.
I have been so outraged it you don't even have
an environmental protection agency if you're letting Mexico and that
Tijuana River put that human feces and all that into
the war so bad that the water actually flows south,
but it's coming up north, destroying the beaches, and it's
been doing it for over one thousand days, and this

(06:50):
so called Biden EPA's done nothing on it. I don't
know what your job is, and I don't know what
environmental protection means, but if it isn't stopping that, then
you don't have any of it. So I love to
hear an EPA secretary that says that's actually something. In
one hundred days, we're making we're moving the needle on,
We're actually going to fix well.

Speaker 2 (07:08):
And I got to tell you, I like the fact
that he brought up the LA fires because we saw
massive incompetence there clearly, and that is a threat to
our environment, right, these wildfires that are not when we're
not appropriately managing our land when we have focused. I
did see earlier today an article actually not knowing you

(07:29):
were going to play this clip where Karen Bass submitted
some changes to her fire department, I think with her
new budget and she wants to get rid of DEI
in there and she will be focusing more on firefighting
in her fire.

Speaker 3 (07:44):
Department in LA.

Speaker 2 (07:47):
And that is actually really significant when it comes to
the environment as well, right, that we focus on the
things that prevent these kinds of disasters that harm the environment.

Speaker 3 (07:56):
Boy, who knew?

Speaker 2 (07:58):
I know, like, don't DUNMP sueer, don't dump sewage, and
take care of your forest and maybe have firefighters who
know how to do their job.

Speaker 1 (08:06):
It's an amazing thing. And I think those are the
measurables that would seem so intuitive that we're not seeing happen.
So here's the thing. The question was asked on this
New Green Deal, which is actually the Inflation Reduction Act,
which was really just the New Green Deal. That's right
in the same interview with the clip I played, It
was also asked, is the New Green Deal dead or
be killed? At what's going on with it? Here's what
Secretary of Zelden had to.

Speaker 7 (08:26):
Say, Have you killed the Green New Deal?

Speaker 2 (08:30):
It's not quite stone cold dead, but getting there right.

Speaker 5 (08:35):
Yeah, for sure.

Speaker 1 (08:36):
I mean at the EPA, it's dead.

Speaker 6 (08:39):
And one thing that I would say to Americans out
there where we've heard terms in the past like climate
change and environmental justice, what we really need to get
smart on as taxpayers is when the Democrats had full
control of power, what they were doing was in the
name of these terms, they would pass tens of billions

(09:02):
of dollars of new slush funds to pay their friends off.

Speaker 1 (09:07):
To pay their friends, So what no, no environmental protection
at all, just paying your friends. He goes on to say,
if we.

Speaker 6 (09:14):
Want to remediate an environmental concern and you're going to
spend a dollar to remediate it, spend that dollar directly
on dealing with that environmental concern.

Speaker 1 (09:23):
Don't spend that dollar on some.

Speaker 6 (09:25):
Left wing activist group to then tell us that we
need to be spending the next dollar and remediating an
environmental issue.

Speaker 8 (09:32):
Imagine that seems so self evident. So just exactly what
I'm saying. They had the Biden administration spent all that
money saying it to all those groups, those left wing groups,
and yet the sewage kept flowing into the ocean flowing. Okay,
all of this, you have a Coastal Commission in LA
that doesn't let you build a house because if your
house burns down along the coast, you're not allowed to building

(09:53):
might hurt the ocean. Well, they don't give a whit
about the sewage that's coming in in that same area,
that same So look great, great things at least from
the EPA front on firste hundred days.

Speaker 1 (10:05):
We're going to talk more about this when we come back.
We're going to speak with Senator Lee. We're gonna ask
him about some of these things when we come back.
After the break, you're listening to Utah's Talk Radio one
oh five nine canors. People might not know Carolyn fipp
in the way I do you worked, but I'll say
for our listeners, you worked in the House as a
house staff when I was Speaker of the House. We
work together for four years. You've worked for Senater Mike Lee,

(10:25):
who's our guest, who will be calling in here or
will be speaking to here shortly, but maybe share with
our listeners some of the some of your experience in
the arena arena in terms of politics and policy.

Speaker 2 (10:36):
Well, let me just say this now, because right now
I am president of the Women's Republican Club of Salt
Lake City, the oldest women's Republican organization in the nation,
one hundred and twenty six years eighteen ninety nine it
was formed.

Speaker 1 (10:51):
Wow, and you've been the president the whole time.

Speaker 2 (10:53):
Oh no, no, oh since yeah, I get your jokes now, yeah,
I do, just to rob known. Yeah, no, younger than me,
so I can't do that joke. I don't think I
actually am. But anyway, I am younger than Senatorly. But
I mean I'm older than Senatorly a year, I think,
but so and yeah. Worked with you on a whole

(11:14):
lot of different policies as well as the Senator for
a number of years here in the state. I'm a
mother of five boys, was home raising them for twenty
years before I got involved in local politics. Prior to that,
I had written, ghost written a whole lot of stuff
for elected officials and candidates all over the connection nationally. Yep,

(11:37):
and so just really like the policy side. But yes,
crowded race, in a hardy crowded race. Let me just
say there were nine of us. Yes, I the next
closest spender to me spent ten times what I did,
and most spent like, oh yeah, okay, we're gonna time.

Speaker 1 (12:00):
But the conclusion was, what, like mine, you run for
state office, you come out better than you went in, right.

Speaker 2 (12:05):
Oh, significantly. And I have great friendships that came out
of that.

Speaker 1 (12:09):
So joining us on the program is our own senior Senator,
Senator Mike Lee. Cenator Lee, Welcome to the Rod and
Greg Show with our guest host Carolyn Fippen. Who I
think you know?

Speaker 9 (12:20):
Yeah, no, this is fantastical age. I mean, sure, don't
we call it the Greg and Carolyn Show? If it's
the two of you hosting, it seems only fair, well
Carolyn and show? Or is that treading too far?

Speaker 2 (12:29):
I don't know, No, I think that works you thank you, Senator.

Speaker 1 (12:32):
Well, if the senator says it, I guess that's what
that is. And who might argue with you? You're the one
that's You're the mover and shaker on this show right now.
I look, I thank you for joining us. I have
a we have a couple of questions for you that
that I appreciate you calling in. I have to go though,
because you are just such a legal scholar. You You
clerk for two Supreme Court justices, whether they were in
the Supreme Court at the time you clerk from or not.

(12:53):
You just you got a big brain. You understand the
legal process, the constitutional uh process is better than I
think anyone else. I have to tell you what's going
on right now with the judiciary and this idea that
this judge in Wisconsin who ushered out this illegal immigrant
who was waiting to be arrested, detained and arrested by

(13:13):
Ice and the FBI. Tell me what your take is
is that is being called heroic. I mean even David
Brooks New York Times David Brooks said that it might
be a little illegal, but it's heroic that you've got
a lot of excuses being made and even encouraging other
judges to harbor fugitives. Does where does this stand? I

(13:35):
think obviously we know legally, but where does this stand
in terms of precedent? What's going to happen next?

Speaker 9 (13:42):
Well, look, I'm glad you brought this up. We've got
a big problem. You know, non citizens. To do the
bidding of terrorist organizations have to leave illegal aliens who
broke the law getting into the United States, sometimes repeatedly.
Sometimes they're repeat offenders, their previous deported. The illegal aliens
who commit the additional crime of illegal re entry, those

(14:04):
people may delay too. This is not too much to
ask that anywhile you've got trend Aragua, which is a
foreign enemy, President Trump has authority to expel that enemy.
No court has the authority to undo a decision to
expel an enemy like that. Democrats have been willing to
die in somebody ridiculous and absurd hills. But the fact

(14:28):
that they're willing to die on the trend day Iragua Hill,
this seems unusually perplexing. This is where you do with
There was such a thing as a wellness check on
a political party, This might be a good time to
perform that, because I have to ask the question, like,
can can even if you think of a good reason
to keep trend Aragua in the US, because I can't

(14:48):
think of one. And this, to me is a clear
example of judicial activism getting in the way of effective
governance and getting in the way of effective governance by
treading on policy decisions that are not judicial decisions themselves.
And that's a big problem. And I hope and expect
the Supreme Court to help us get out of this mess,

(15:11):
because it is a mess. You have legislative and executive
policy decisions that are being made by lawyers and rogues,
and lawyers and robes are important. They're an important part
of our system. But when they play a non judicial role,
is that I believe they're starting to do here. That's
a problem.

Speaker 2 (15:27):
Yeah, So we need to come up with a solution.
And I like that you mentioned the Supreme Court. That
may be the only option here. So I have a
question for you. You are the new chair of the
Senate Energy and Natural Resources Committee. The Desert News had
an article the other day talking about the Inflation Reduction Act,
or the Green New Deal, and they quoted you saying

(15:48):
that you'd like to get rid of it lock stock
and barrel. So in your position, I think most of
us would. In your position, what are you working on
to make that a reality for the American people.

Speaker 9 (16:01):
Well, look, the way we get rid of the Inflation
Reduction that energy subsidies, which was part of the Green
New Deal plan. They've folded it out of the Green
New Deal, a lost logstock and barrel.

Speaker 10 (16:15):
They've passed it.

Speaker 9 (16:17):
Three years ago with only Democratic votes in the Senate,
only Democratic votes in the House, not a single Republican,
and they did so in order to pursue a radical
leftist set of policy choices that we associate with the
Green New Deal, So that having been passed by Democrat

(16:38):
only votes, I think we should not have any Republican
votes to sustain those things. Now, there are a handful
of people who don't share that view, but I look
forward to them making their case as to why that
shouldn't be true. When the US government gets too involved

(16:58):
in too many decisions about what kind of energy we
can pursue, to the point that it's taking money from
hard working, poor, middle class American taxpayers and giving it
to rich people who run these companies with unproven technologies
that can't survive on their own. That's kind of a problem.

(17:19):
Most people would regard that as immoral, the reverse robinhood,
where you're stealing from the poor to give to the rich.
I find that insulting, and I think most Americans are
with me on that, And I think we have to
repeal them lockstock and Barrel.

Speaker 1 (17:30):
Yeah, center, Realie, you're not alone. We just played a
clip of Secretaries Lee Zelden saying the same thing in
terms of where the EPA is going to make some
massive changes from the Green New Deal as it's impacted EPA.
Sounds like you're hot on the job too. Hey, thank
you for joining us on the program. We always love
hearing from you on the Carolyn and Greg show. As
you've now declared, is.

Speaker 11 (17:54):
At least for this week.

Speaker 9 (17:55):
And I hope you guys are getting along well in
this effort. Sure you are the dynamic note due all
off to tune in, but thanks for letting join you today.

Speaker 1 (18:04):
Sure, thank you. Thanks Senator Lee. It's our senator he
you know again, we both you work for him and
we both know him really well. Love having him on
the show, joining us on the show right now. I
love this off ed folks. I've known Derek Miller for
so long work He's worked in different capacities. He's Governor
Herbert's chief of staff. But when I read this, I
just smiled, because, of course, Derek Miller as the president

(18:27):
of the Salt Lake Chamber of Commerce. He's looking at trade.
He's looking at what the President's doing in terms of
re aligning trade relationships, and he's not waiting for the outcome.
He's being proactive. He has quite the strategy for the
State of Utah to be proactive in this effort. Derek,
Welcome to the show.

Speaker 12 (18:44):
Hello Greg and Harrol.

Speaker 10 (18:46):
Hello Carolyn.

Speaker 11 (18:47):
Great to be with both of you.

Speaker 1 (18:48):
Okay, so share with our listeners a little bit of
what you're thinking. What could Utah do right now as
the trade as these trade negotiations are going on, and
you're seeing this realignment happening. What should you tie it's businesses,
it's leaders, political, civic. What should we be staring at
right now?

Speaker 12 (19:07):
Well, let me just give a little bit of context
for the off ed and for the recommendations I have,
because I think so much of what President Trump's goals
are is getting lost in the political rhetoric. And when
you break it down of what President Trump wants to do,
at least in my estimation, it's three pretty simple things.

(19:29):
First of all, he wants us making more at home,
he wants us selling more abroad, and he wants more
international companies to have a US location so they're building
things here. In the US instead of everywhere else in
the world. And you know, I've just been watching, like
both of you have and all of your listeners have,
at the debate, which is, you know, Trump's brilliant, Trump's ignorant,

(19:55):
Trump's the greatest thing ever, Trump's the worst thing ever.
And I just thought, where does that really get us?
And that debate, in my opinion, gets us nowhere as
far as economic development goes. What could we do given
the realities? And they're pretty simple, as you know, Greg,
because we've done these trade missions together. When you were

(20:15):
the Speaker of the House, when I was the governor's
chief of staff, we went on trade missions and a
lot of trade missions were focused on helping Utah companies
build supply chains. But given the way that our economy
is going now, what we really need to do is
instead of taking Utah companies to foreign countries to find suppliers,

(20:36):
we need to help them find customers. The second thing
is we need to be doing domestic trade missions. That
means helping these Utah companies find suppliers. But instead of
helping them find them internationally, we need to help them
find them here in the US. Every Utah company right
now is thinking what am I going to do to
find X, Y and Z input into the products I make?

(20:59):
And we ought to be helping them to do that.
And the third one, Greg, is something you know very
well because you actually did this for the state of Utah.
And not many people would know this, but you are
instrumental in recruiting a great international company Stotalarrel. Recruited them
from Switzerland to Utah. They're North American headquarters. They're building
all kinds of stuff and they're selling them all kinds

(21:21):
all over the world and it's happening right here in Utah.
We need to be doing more of that.

Speaker 2 (21:27):
Yeah, So I have a bit of a follow up question.

Speaker 1 (21:30):
Actually shout out there, Derek. I appreciate it. You're exactly
right about the dollar becoming here. I mean, it is
a lot of businesses create around that as well.

Speaker 2 (21:37):
But goog and Greg actually mentioned that before the show.

Speaker 3 (21:40):
He was bragging about Stutler.

Speaker 2 (21:41):
But anyway, so you know, in addition to like joining
the Sally Chamber and maybe utilizing your expertise, right, what,
what are one or two other points or resources that
you'd recommend for especially small businesses who may not have
the resources to figure out how to navigate these big

(22:03):
changes and are experiencing supply chain interruptions.

Speaker 12 (22:07):
Yeah, thanks for the question, Carolyn. We have a great
organization that I used to run. It's much better than
when I was there. But it's called the World Trade
Center Utah. This is a private organization, meaning it's not
a government organization, but it does have a strong partnership
with the state government. And what you just said is

(22:29):
exactly what they do. So any business owner who's thinking
right now, what am I going to do to rebuild
a domestic supply chain? World Trade Center Utah dot com
look them up, email them, call them. The Salt Lake
Chamber can certainly help you get connected to them, but

(22:51):
this is why they exist that very purpose.

Speaker 1 (22:54):
So this question might get too deep in the weeds.
I hope it's not, but I saw recently that the
President's announced that they're going to working with US automakers
and making sure that that they're creating jobs and manufacturing
here in the country. Some of the challenges of that
might be some of the supplies, as you've just described,
might be found overseas. They're putting a runway in place

(23:18):
in terms of being able to access manufacturing or parts
whatever they may need, are that are on shore instead
of offshore. There needs to be a runway. I know
with the companies that are international that want to build
everything from the United States, there are some things that
are not currently being manufactured in the United States, with
the goal being that we have manufacturing in the United States,

(23:39):
but not in the current climate having the ability to
do it. How much sense does it make to have
a runway and what would you recommend we be pointing
to in terms of the time it takes to make
sure that we're not tariffing things and creating problems before
we get some of these manufacturing industries on American soil.

Speaker 12 (23:58):
It's a really important point and the simple answer, the
short answer to your question, Greg, is yes, we absolutely
do need a runway. You know, I'm sitting here talking
to you on my iPhone and if you were to
ask where is this iPhone built, you know you're talking
about two dozen different countries.

Speaker 13 (24:17):
That's where it's built.

Speaker 12 (24:18):
So this is the point you're making is we may
want more stuff built here in the US. We do
want it. It would be good for our economy. We
can't just be a consumer economy. That's the House of Cards.
If we don't actually make things here, if we don't
actually produce things in our country, then you know what
are we So I certainly support the President's goal of

(24:39):
wanting to make more here, but it does take time.
I recently visited South Carolina on a state to state
exchange with the Economic Development Corporation of Utah to learn
about specifically learn about what they're doing in the recruitment area.
You know, they've got BMW in their state. They've got

(25:00):
Michelin in their state, They've got Volvo in their state.
BMW alone for forty thousand jobs directly and indirectly support
the BMW facility. So the bad news for US is
we don't have a seaport like South Carolina does. But
the good news is, and you know this well, Greg,

(25:20):
because you were involved and we sat on this board
years ago, we have an inland port, yes, and that
has You know, sometimes it's better to be lucky than smart,
and we were really lucky when it came to the
infrastructure that we put into place over the last five years.
And now it's the time to go capitalize.

Speaker 1 (25:37):
Absolutely, people might not realize we've got more rail infrastructure
connected to more western coastports. Well actually the only state
with rail connectivity to every western coast port that we
have in the country. So very lucky, very fortunate taking
advantage of it. Derek Miller, thank you for joining us
on the program. Keep up the good work and keep up,
I mean, just spread the word. I think that Utah
is very well poised to take great advantage of the

(26:00):
the trade issues and how they're being realigned right now.
Appreciate your leadership and joining us.

Speaker 12 (26:06):
Thank you both.

Speaker 3 (26:07):
Thank you.

Speaker 1 (26:08):
All right, folks, come back after the break here winding
up the first hour of the of the Carolyn and
Greg Show. It's been in our lee now christened it. Okay,
back after this. You're listening to talk radio one oh
five nine can or US, So let me ask you this.
So we we have this the end of this segment.
So next hour, I want to get into this hole.
We want to get into this whole one hundred days

(26:29):
of President Trump. I have some clips, I have some
things I want to talk about in terms of how
to measure this hundred days of President Trump's for of
this administration. But we're going to go to you, the callers.
We are listeners. We want you to call in and
give us a grade. Is it an A? Is it
a B?

Speaker 3 (26:44):
Is it a C?

Speaker 1 (26:45):
Is it a D? Is at an F? On what
these first hundred days have looked like. I'll tell you this,
and I'm not going I'm not saying this as a
complete negative, but there's some good numbers coming out on
mass deportation for Trump. They don't even come close to
what Obama did. We deported a lot more, a lot faster.
So is that a bad grade? Is it a good grade?

Speaker 3 (27:05):
What is it?

Speaker 1 (27:05):
Because I mean, it's better, easily better than Biden? But
Obama Obama's pace in terms of the millions and millions
that he deported out of this country who were here illegally.
Trump has not even hit that mark yet. And will
he hit that mark? Who knows. But that's that's I'd
be curious what listeners think about the grade or how
you would assess deportation. Is it working? I think the

(27:27):
border's not getting crossed illegally as much anymore? But how
are we getting the damage that's been done over the
last four years? So we've got that, we've got what
about this economy? We just heard from Derrick Miller, President
of the Souli Chamber of Commerce on terms of trade.
How do we get companies to build here? How do
we get our companies to be able to build more
to you know, all of those things, the reciprocal trade

(27:49):
agreements or teriffs with other countries. How do we get
that stronger so we have more exports going out? We
can send more out you know, China, Carolyn, they don't.
Cadillac doesn't send cars to China. Cadillac builds their cars
in China to avoid the tariff.

Speaker 2 (28:05):
Imagine that, and imagine businesses make decisions based on cost
and benefit.

Speaker 1 (28:13):
Huh. Amazing, amazing, isn't it?

Speaker 7 (28:15):
Yeah?

Speaker 1 (28:15):
And if and if terrors are so bad, how come
everyone's so good at tariffing the daylights out of this
country and what we send out they seem to do
it quite well. Yes, so you know we're going to
get into that.

Speaker 14 (28:25):
Uh.

Speaker 1 (28:26):
And again, what your eight eight eight five seven zero
eight zero one zero is the number to call? What
grade would you give the presidents? First? One hundred days.
We'll get to it when we come back here on
talk radio one oh five nine o knrs. It's one
hundred days. Uh, the president's holding a rally. It's live,
it's in Warren, Michigan. I'm going to see it on

(28:46):
the TV monitor right here in the studio. And there's
a lot, lot lot that we have lived through, Carolyn.
In this first hundred days, I feel like we have
been at a front row seat, like I don't remember
having terms of transparency, a president available to speak with
the media quite frequently, whether it's on Air Force one
and whether it's in the Oval office, whether you name it.

(29:08):
He's he is an open book. He'll he'll tell you
what he's thinking on what he's doing. A lot of
good progress made on the border, a lot of bold
and I think very positive work being done to realign
our trade relationships globally. I think if that had been
left alone, that was a trajectory off a cliff.

Speaker 3 (29:28):
In terms of our divines.

Speaker 2 (29:30):
Right, Yeah, we weren't headed in the right direction, and
nobody was willing to do anything to turn it around.

Speaker 1 (29:35):
And why because you know you would have some people saying,
you know, anytime you rattle the status quo, everyone wants
to say the guy's falling. Bit how but I think
the sky's falling if you just leave us as making
nothing consuming everything going thirty six trillion dollars in debt,
two trillion dollars a year in additional debt every year,
at least that the pace Congress is at right now.
So I think he's working very hard to do that.

(29:58):
I think you've already seen some fruits of that labor
with the committed I think it's up to eight trillion
dollars of on shoring companies that want to come here
and build here at domicile here commit one hundred and
fifty billion dollars, like IBM announced yesterday morning, a five
year commitment of investment of operations here in the United States.
That will be jobs, that'll be economic activity. But what

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say you, folks eight eight eight five seven zero eight
zero one zero, do you have a grade that you
would give the president right now in his first hundred days?
Is it an A?

Speaker 15 (30:32):
Is it a B?

Speaker 1 (30:32):
Is it a C?

Speaker 16 (30:33):
Is it a D?

Speaker 17 (30:34):
Is it an F?

Speaker 1 (30:36):
I pointed out before we went to the break that
I look at the numbers of deportations under Obama, and
Obama was deporting a lot more people, a lot of
more criminals, a lot of people that deserve to be
deported than Trump is doing right now. So what say
you love to hear from you again and hear your
take on what your assessment is of our first hundred days.

Speaker 2 (31:00):
Yeah, you know, I was looking at something yesterday. And actually,
when you talk about the trajectory that we have been
heading in as a country, all of us know we've
been hearing it my entire life that we cannot continue
stacking on these deficits year over year over year, and
the massive debt. When I worked for Senatorly just a

(31:21):
few years ago, he used to say, before long the
amount of money that we will have to dedicate just
to paying interest on the debt will will exceed that
that we spend on the military and keeping ourselves safe.
We've gotten there in the past couple of years. And
I'll tell you, I think it was Scott Bessant who

(31:43):
came out the other day and said that we have
to sell ten to twelve trillion dollars in bonds a
year just to refinance our debt. Ten to twelve trillion dollars.
That money does not exist in the world over the
long term in order for us to continue on the
path that we're on, and changes had to be made.

(32:05):
And I don't think it's enough to say the one guy,
the one guy who had the leadership ability and really
the guts to make a change, while everybody else would
have allowed the status quo to continue, and as soon
as they saw things start to fall, would have just
run out of the way and put thrown somebody else

(32:26):
underneath the big fall.

Speaker 18 (32:27):
Right.

Speaker 3 (32:27):
Yeah, this is just common sense.

Speaker 1 (32:29):
So what we saw, and you see this in the
job reports numbers right now and the job report numbers
just in March. We're here in April, but in March
two hundred and twenty eight thousand new jobs added in
our economy added in the United States. That's one hundred
thousand more than what was predicted. Yeah, with the best part, Carolina,

(32:50):
that detail being they're not government jobs. Most of the
Biden administrations monthly report job reports numbers were always government jobs, which,
by the way, is debt, not ecking activity. You hiring people,
but it's the taxpayers that have to pay for that.
And if you don't have the money for it, you
just print more of uh. But let me ask you this,
I mean, when you describe it in such stark terms,

(33:11):
twelve trillion dollars in debt a year, and how you
have to sell this debt to refine it. So what's
the plan? What was what would even be the plan
of those that were supportive of this continuing deficit spending
as as Biden did, where he was growing government jobs,
where he's depleting our natural reserves, our petroleum reserves down

(33:31):
to nothing. He pulled so much out of there that
he damaged the pumps. He was pulling it out to
try and lower gas prices around the election, depleted it
down to zero. The Trump administration, of course, is now
replenishing it. But what what was this? What would you
say would be the straight faced strategy that they would say,
this makes sense, This is actually a great If you

(33:52):
don't understand, you just don't understand economics, because what's happening
here is a great thing.

Speaker 16 (33:57):
What what?

Speaker 1 (33:57):
What?

Speaker 7 (33:58):
Yeah?

Speaker 2 (33:58):
I think that's the problem, though, because tell me what
the plan was. I've never heard anybody. And I have
friends who are on both sides of the aisle here
and some who seem stuck in the middle, but I've
never had any one of them be able to explain
to me what that plan actually would be. Everybody knows

(34:19):
that it would have to fall of its own weight
at some point, right, But you know, people are starting
to ask this question as well. So I think it's
just par for the course, and that is what actually
did the Democrats even stand for anymore. So it's part
of the same. Those who were fighting against the reforms
that Trump is putting into place cannot explain what it

(34:43):
is that they're fighting against and what they're trying to
preserve unless they're misrepresenting.

Speaker 19 (34:48):
Right.

Speaker 2 (34:48):
We don't want to cus to social Security. I had
a great conversation with someone the other day. I can't
afford to have my social Security cut. I talked to
her about the fraud in the social Security system. Was
able to outline some of the very specific frauds that
have been publicized. She had no idea. She had no idea.
This is about preserving your social security.

Speaker 1 (35:09):
Can you imagine there was thirteen dough just learned that
there were thirteen million payments individuals that were receiving Social
Security benefits who, according to the documentation, were one hundred
and twenty years of age or older. Now when you cut,
when you put it in their file, deceased so you
don't have to send the check anymore. Anybody receiving Social

(35:30):
Security should see that as good news, because why, that's
money that's not being wasted. That's money that can go
to people who are true beneficiaries, people that you have
to send it to. It's going to extend the program
longer when you're not sending it tondred thirteen million, one
hundred and twenty year olds or older because they don't
exist in real life. That is that's actually fraud.

Speaker 3 (35:47):
It's true.

Speaker 2 (35:47):
But do you remember we were told that this was
just a coding issue, and that does didn't understand it.
But I will tell you this dose has continued on
explaining how they've cut off these payments, and I haven't
heard a single Democrat come out and tell us about
one of those people who it was just a coding

(36:08):
air who's been accidentally cut off from their Social Security
And if.

Speaker 3 (36:12):
There were one of them, we would know about it.

Speaker 1 (36:15):
It would be every day to be like the wife
beating gangster.

Speaker 3 (36:20):
That that's right.

Speaker 1 (36:21):
They're fighting for down and all selva.

Speaker 3 (36:22):
So it doesn't exist.

Speaker 1 (36:23):
So let's go to our colleors real quick. Let's go
to Brian and Bluffdale. Brian, welcome to Welcome to the show.
What kind of grade would you give our president for
the first one hundred days in office B minus, A
B minus, and.

Speaker 18 (36:39):
I'll a B minus and I'll tell you the reason why.
You know, they marched out right after the inauguration telling
everybody how they were going to be so transparent. Well,
I don't believe they have been all that transparent, especially
with issues that were that were election is choose, like

(37:02):
the Jeffrey Epstein files. That's just one and I realized
that's not the whole, that doesn't represent the whole gamut
of things. But at the same time, I believe the
reason why Trump was able to get Bondi and Patel
and a few of the others in place was because

(37:24):
he cut a deal with with with with the House
guy Johnson.

Speaker 3 (37:29):
I think his name is, right, Speaker Mike Johnson, Yeah.

Speaker 18 (37:35):
Mike john I think I think they cut a deal,
and the deal was, hey, we'll give you a you know,
cash and Bondie, but you're going to have to wait
for all the other people until August for us to
make a decision on that. And I think that's really
ultimately hurting him because those are the workhorses that they're

(37:55):
not allowing to get in.

Speaker 1 (37:57):
It's a good take. I thank you for calling Brann I.
I do think that I think this has been a
very transparent presidency. I never knew anything about Panama Canal,
and now I know that the Chinese control the front
end of it and the back end of it, and
it's untenable, and we had changed it and he's changed it.
I didn't understand Greenland and its strategic role in our
national security. We're talking about that. That's probably on some

(38:20):
memo in the Pentagon somewhere that that the Biden administration
and everybody else was ignoring. I do think that there
is a lot of boldness in the in the trade negotiations,
and we kind of have kind of the ebbs and
flows of how those tariffs negotiations are going. So I
do think it's a little bit more. But that Epstein,
there are some things that you thought were going to
come out right away that we didn't see come out.
Let's quickly, e Ray, can I take another call or

(38:42):
hold it over? Okay, I'm going to take it. Robert
and Saratoga Springs, thank you for calling. What You're great
after one hundred days for President Trump.

Speaker 20 (38:55):
BB minus kind of like the last caller, But I
want to see more involved in with Congress, and I
want to see them work for a balanced budget amendment
because a lot of the things he's doing with those
are great, But as soon as he's gone, they're going
to go right back to spending. But if we could
have a balanced budget amendment like Utah has, then at
least there's a framework to quit spending so much money.

Speaker 1 (39:16):
Absolutely agree, you know, the work with Congress. It's the
rubbers hitting the road on this one. The Congress is convenient.
This week they get to start the formation of this budget.
Secretary Avesent saying fourth of July. I hope it's not
that long, but we have such a massive tax increase
heading our way. If they don't they say extend the
tax increases or tax cuts, we don't get a tax cut.

(39:37):
We just keep this the tax rate the same unless
they let it expire, and then the tax increase is massive. Yeah.
So I think the presidents work with Congress. We're going
to see that either happen or not here in the
coming weeks, days and weeks and maybe months. But I
would agree with the caller, Okay, we're gonna go, We're
gonna go to a break. When we come back. What
grade would you give President Trump. We have tough audience.

(39:59):
By the way, No A B minus is right now
for the president first hundred days, what grade would you
give him? Eight eight eight five seven zero eight zero
one zero is the number to call. You're listening to
Utah's Talk Radio one oh five nine canteris So. Guest
hosting with me is Carolyn Fippen. Carolyn, Welcome to the show.
Mike Lee calls it the Carolyn greg Show.

Speaker 3 (40:19):
Yes, I've taken over the studio.

Speaker 1 (40:20):
You know, you worked with this good center. You worked
with me when I was in the house speaker, so
I knew you'd be a big gun. I knew you'd
be a big deal to a lot of people when
you join me on the show. But I love that,
I love your take, I love everything you're saying. We
got some callers, Colin, and I can't wait to get
to our callers. And I don't know if you know,
but we have the smartest listening audience and all the land.
These are the ones that would win a Jeopardy contest

(40:41):
with any radio audience anywhere in the world. So let's
go to our callers, and let's go to Sheldon, who
is has been patiently waiting, Sheldon, Welcome to the show.
One hundred days. In what grade would you give President Trump?

Speaker 7 (40:57):
Well, thanks for taking my call, Carol and Greg. Hi
am giving him about A be maybe B minus. There
are certain things he should get an A on, probably doze, immigration,
maybe any minus. But I don't like some of his
crazy talk with Canada. I think it's just he needs
to calm down a bit on stuff like that. Yeah,
and the terriffs, Yeah, I don't I don't mind. I

(41:18):
see the end goal, but it's going to be tough.
So yeah. And with Russia with Putin, I think he is.
To me, it seems like he favors Putin a little more.
And I know there's a lot of backstory with both
though Zolanski and Putin and both countries. So I don't
know what the exact answer is there, but I.

Speaker 1 (41:38):
Think, Sheldon, I like to take thank you. I will
say this. I think that the the Canada crazy talk
I agree with, because you know what, I wouldn't want
Canada to have two US. There's exactly for any reason
in the world, I wouldn't want them to have any
I don't want them sending anyone to the US Congress.
I you know, I I don't. I think he was
a bit tongue in cheek about it. I'll take Alberta.

(42:00):
I don't want any you know, they could just stay
up there, they can, you know, I just I just
don't even want them anywhere. I don't. It would just
be bringing more liberals. And look who they just elected
last night. I mean, they just elected another crazy leftist.
After what Trudeau did to that country, they couldn't even
they can't break the habit. So I don't like that.
I don't like that either. But I'll tell you he
got a little salty with Putin. Trump did yes, and

(42:22):
and Putin says, well, how about how he cease fire
here soon? Would that make it better? So I think that,
you know, I think he's trying to play that right.
And uh, I think Putin better be careful because the
one thing you don't want to do to President Trump
is make him feel like he's been played or a fool.
And if that is Putin's ultimate objective, I think he
will regret it for doing it. Let's go now to

(42:42):
Barrett and Caseville. Barrett, thank you for holding. Welcome to
the show, one hundred days. In what grade do you
give President Trump.

Speaker 17 (42:51):
Appreciate you having me on there. I just gotta say, man,
I've been a Trumper from the start, you know, and uh,
you know rode the Trump train with Utah Patriots, and
you know, I just gotta say that. You know, he
looks very weak in my opinion. He said he was
gonna he was gonna drain the swamp the first time. Okay,

(43:13):
he didn't really drain too much. I know, he did
some stuff with some judges. I mean, look at what
they're doing now. If he would have literally drained the
swamp like you said, then how are they now? How
are they able to say, Okay, now they're going to
go after you know, Judge Barrett's sister or whatever family member.
Now they're going to try to course people to do stuff.

(43:36):
You know. It's like now they're coming at him with
more impeachment stuff. It's like, come on, man, enough's enough.
You know. It's like I feel like it's all theater.
He says, Oh, I'm gonna lost Hillary Clinton.

Speaker 10 (43:47):
Up.

Speaker 17 (43:47):
He didn't do nothing to Hillary, you know, he says, oh,
I mean, I mean, look at what he's doing with AOC.
AOC should be locked up for treason. You know he
didn't do nothing to police you for ripping up his speech.

Speaker 1 (44:00):
Like, oh, Barrett, I didn't mean to hang up on
you right there. I did it by accident. But look,
I'm picking up what you're putting down. I do think
that his first term. I think the way you see
his cabinet put together this year this time around is
a reflection of how much he was thwarted even within
his own administration in that first term. I know my
eyes as I was a public servant back when he

(44:21):
served in his first term, there were things going on
that I was not fully aware of in terms of
a swamp and it's murkiness. But I do think that
that there's a lot of high expectations, and Barrett is
not by himself when he expects to see a lot
of measurables coming. And I think that the President's working
on this, but I do think that there's I can
see why some people would like to see more. Let's

(44:42):
quickly go to Holly on I fifteen, Holly, thank you
for holding What grade would you give our president after
one hundred day? We got a tough crew here? What
do you say?

Speaker 17 (44:52):
You know what I'm going to have to give him?

Speaker 11 (44:54):
An A plus for effort.

Speaker 1 (44:56):
There you go.

Speaker 5 (44:56):
I don't think there's a man or an administration who's
been as brave and courageous as to try to turn
this constitutional republic around. It is a difficult job. He's
got a thousand balls in the air at once, and
he loves America, and I think everything he's doing is

(45:17):
with good intention. So I've got to give him an A.
I think the American people are so used to they
are addicted to this federal money. They're addicted to it,
and we're in withdrawals right now. We've been spending money
that we don't even have.

Speaker 18 (45:35):
Thank you, and now everybody's hair's on fire.

Speaker 1 (45:38):
Absolutely, and Kevin think about it. We didn't even know
how much they were shoveling out of these NGOs that
were not accountable, and that Congress didn't know anything about.
It was unbelievable. The kind of graft that's going on
and the kind of misuse of public funds, and all
of that came with organizations that they're profiting and are
against this president. I think Holly's I think Hally's calling
it right, right, whatevery grade you're going to give this present.

(46:00):
Whatever he does, the next four years. It might be
the best we're going to get. I don't know that
you're going to find another leader like you have in
President Trump. We have some we have some people on hold.
I'd love to ask you to hold on over the
break because we'd want to come back to you and
your grades that you would give President Trump in this
first hundred days we come back. You're listening to Utah's
Talk Radio one oh five nine Canterists and as my

(46:21):
guest host is Carolyn Fipp And welcome Carolyn to the show.

Speaker 3 (46:24):
Thank you.

Speaker 1 (46:25):
So you're getting a lot of buzz. People like like
the like the mixt You're doing well. I'm getting great feedback.

Speaker 3 (46:30):
We're just fun, Greg, We're fun.

Speaker 1 (46:34):
Well, we're going to get back to the callers because
we have a stalwart. We've got a great guy that's
Scott from Twilla that's.

Speaker 3 (46:39):
Been on hold for veryank you Scott.

Speaker 1 (46:41):
Scott, thank you for holding. Welcome to the Rod and
Greg Show, but really the Carolyn and Greg Show today.
Uh it's been one hundred days, Scott, the President Trump
has been president. What kind of grade would you give
the president today?

Speaker 11 (46:57):
Greg, you were talking about uh SUA with deporting illegals
and criminal aliens. Yes, and that Obama did more, But
when you consider apples for apples, there is no one
that's ever came into position like Trump that's had to
deal with media pressure and resistance and every arena where.

(47:23):
These other administrations never had to deal with that. They
were able to, especially Obama, and he kind of was
considered to save you to some people. But the reality
is I had to change my grade when I heard
that that lady talked and gave him an aid because
I think I have to give him may too because

(47:44):
of that trying to fighte to this process and actually
accomplish something when he's only one man. He has to
have the rest of support to be able to do it.
He can't just do it by himself.

Speaker 1 (47:57):
Scott, thank you for thank you for the calling the observation,
and I actually agree with you. And and here's here's
the example, Carolyn. You know this is breaking news right now.
The Wisconsin Supreme Court has suspended the Milwaukee judge accused
of helping the illegal alien evade ice. Obama didn't have
judges' aiding a betting and helping illegals, criminal illegal aliens

(48:18):
get away, and that Wisconsin Supreme Court. Is they that's
a partisan race or it's understood to be, and it
is a Democrat controlled Supreme Court, so they have suspended her,
which shows that, you know, some of these are just
indefensible acts that some of these judges are trying to commit.
And that is some of the stuff that this presence

(48:38):
up against in terms of institutional pushback on the big
changes that have to happen.

Speaker 2 (48:42):
You want to talk about institutional pushback, you know, Scott
made the point that he's just one man.

Speaker 3 (48:48):
He can't do it alone.

Speaker 2 (48:50):
In addition to not being able to do it alone,
and I think this was implied with his other comments
as well. He is fighting tooth and nail against this
institututional pushback two hundred and twenty lawsuits in one hundred
days against this president and his agenda that the American

(49:10):
people elected him to implement.

Speaker 1 (49:12):
That number two hundred and twenty. I'm going to play
a clip later in the show from the speech that
the rally that the President Trump's having where he points
to us out that number is it has no equal.
There's never been a president or administration that's had to
have to go through that. So as he's had a
better and stronger second administration with good secretary, people you
can trust that aren't undermining him from within. You have

(49:34):
this full scale lawfare going on with the judges. Let's
go to Shelley, who's been patiently waiting. Shelley from Brigham City,
thank you for holding it's one hundred days. In what
kind of grade would you give our president?

Speaker 7 (49:47):
Well, I was.

Speaker 21 (49:48):
Starting out giving him an AH plus. I took it
down to it A. But I totally agree with both
Scott and Holly because you think about it, For every
iron he has in the fire, he's got a ten
people on the left trying to put that fire out,
and I think he would have gotten a whole lot
more done if people weren't fighting against him.

Speaker 1 (50:10):
I agree. I thank you for your observation, and I do.
I do agree, and I'll tell you this there is
we are, our appetite, our expectations could not be higher,
given that he's won and one against the greatest thoughts,
it's got to be the greatest political comeback history historically.
Show me something that's been better in terms of how
he'd been indicted of the law fair he's been enduring,

(50:32):
and nobody I know can even repeat back the crimes
that he supposedly committed, that it created these these felonies,
you know, under underlying misdemeanors, on and on. Just is
so convoluted, it's so contrived, and yet he has made
it through. He's he's always been undaunted through all of this.
And so I do I think that whatever we think

(50:53):
about him, good, bad and different, whatever it is, the
next leader, the next commander in chief, I don't think
they're going to have the kind of tough skin, leather skin,
the kind of resolve that he's been exhibiting right now
to get through the kind of opposition he's faced. It's unprecedented.
And I don't think they go, oh, look it's jd.
Vance will be nice. Now, oh look it's the governor,

(51:16):
Sanda say, we love that guy. We're just gonna help him.
We're not going to We're not gonna do what we
did to Trump to him. We're gonna be fine. And
who in the world would he neglect? A Democrat? Can
you imagine a Democrat president coming in after Trump?

Speaker 9 (51:27):
They?

Speaker 1 (51:27):
I mean, it would be a complete reversal and would
look probably like the Biden administrations looked.

Speaker 2 (51:33):
Well and think just about I think Romney's the perfect example.
In the Senate, when he was doing a lot of
the things I'm working with the Democrats often he was
their best friend. But when he ran for president, I mean, Romney,
what are you going to point at in his life
that makes him an evil person? And they came up

(51:54):
with binders full of women and right and the dog
in the caring case on the top of the car.
So it doesn't matter who you are, they will come
at you hard. And the level of these attacks against Trump,
like you said, completely unprecedented.

Speaker 3 (52:12):
You can't even compare.

Speaker 2 (52:13):
But if we think they're going to go easy on
anybody from our side, even somebody like Romney, who they
agree with much of the time, it's never going to happen.

Speaker 1 (52:23):
Well, And and just consider this the Tesla takedown. Same thing.
They create the chaos, they create them as they look,
they raise them as reindexed, and then they try to
blame the person they're attacking as being the author of
the misery. They did that with as you said, Romney,
they did it with McCain, they did it with they'll
do it with any any Republican. And it's it's their playbook. Today. Okay,

(52:44):
we're coming to a break. When we come back, more calls,
more discussions. Eight eight eight five seven zero eight zero
one zero is the number to call. It is one
hundred days in on the president, on President Trump's the administration,
What grade would you give uh the president? Right now
you're listening to talk Radio one O five nine Canterras.
You know, you mentioned yesterday that the victims that had

(53:05):
been beaten within an inch of their lives were in
that courtroom and this illegal alien was the defendant, the
person that was being held, you know, for trial, and
it's that that's that assailant that she helped escape. But
before that all happened, she was so angry that the
ICE and FBI were in in the courtroom at all,
or in the court building. Yeah, she had. She insisted

(53:26):
that they called the chief judge that oversaw that supervised
the whole building, and that judge gave them permission not
to enter the courtroom but in the public space of
the hallway to wait for that court case to be over,
and when that defendant would come out, that's when they
could they could detain them. So they she sent them away,
told them to talk to the boss. They spoke with them,

(53:46):
they came to the agreement on how to do it,
and when they stayed there, that's when she tried to
usher them out a private entrance at egress, ingress that
she uses or that jurors would use, but that certainly
no defendant is ever supposed to use them now that courthouse.

Speaker 3 (54:02):
So well special defendants.

Speaker 1 (54:03):
So anyway, I want to play this clip real quick
on that from the Trump rilly that I think is
if it just if it ended. It's just ended, because
it's been going on for quite some time while we've
been on the show. But let me play this for
you because it has to do with these judges and
how the president feels like they are impeding him and
trying to carry out the duties he's been elected to

(54:24):
carry out.

Speaker 19 (54:26):
And also, we cannot allow a handful of communists, radical
of judges to obstruct the enforcement of our laws and
assume the duties that belong solely to the president of
the United States. Judges are trying to take away the
power given to the president to keep our country safe, and.

Speaker 1 (54:45):
That's not a good thing.

Speaker 7 (54:46):
But I.

Speaker 19 (54:47):
Hope for the sake of our country that the Supreme
Court is going to save this because we have to
do something. These people are just looking to destroy our country.
Nothing will stop me in the mission to keep America
safe again.

Speaker 1 (55:02):
It's very simple, keep America. That's right. So look, I
think I think he's got a lot of He's got more, more,
more opposition. You got the governor of Pritzker from Illinois
that that's encouraging everyone to to I don't know if
he's used the word right, but resist, resist, resistant, and
he's talking about even in mass and even physically how
they resist this president, his object his agenda, which you know,

(55:26):
again is extraordinary, something you don't usually see.

Speaker 2 (55:28):
Do you know that he recently said, I think just
this morning, I saw the clip this morning that he
is starting to recognize kind of the Nazi element. Pritzker
said this that this is looking like Nazi Germany to him.
We we are. The rhetoric's over, Like I feel like
people are done with it. I want to cover a

(55:49):
couple of the things before we go out for this hour.

Speaker 3 (55:52):
A few more of the.

Speaker 2 (55:53):
Things that President Trump has done in this first one
hundred days, and that comes down to energy. We are
not going to be safe and secure unless we have
the ability to produce a lot of our own energy.
We have the resources here, more drilling permits, more coal,
more exploration on federal lands and offshore. A lot of

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these anti energy executive orders that were put out by
Biden have been pulled back. All of this makes our food,
our clothes are fuel less expensive and allows for more
jobs and less dependents on companies that would like our
countries rather that would like to take us down. So
I feel great about where we're headed. While I still

(56:37):
understand some of the concerns, I think he is doing
just a phenomenal Well, there's.

Speaker 1 (56:41):
So much more to do. And I will tell you
this Congress, Carolyn, and ladies and gentlemen, this Congress is
going to play an integral role. We have a majority.
I know it's slim in the House of only four votes.
But if you can't get this budget pass, and if
it can't reflect the efficiencies and the budget cuts that
have to have and the Doge has identified, if you
don't do this when you control the House, the Senate,
and the White House, then you have no business. Then

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you're not Then the people aren't going to send a majority,
and heaven forbid we get Democrats because we know that there.
We haven't even got into the show of some of
the things they're advocating for, which are completely opposite and
actually just tear down the country. But they're on the clock,
and this Congress is going to have to produce, and
they're gonna have to get that budget passed, and they're
going to have to not let our taxes be increased

(57:23):
to the degree that they're going to be if they
don't extend to those tax those tax cuts, but they're
not cuts anymore. Democrats have already taken out of the
budget the tax on Tips's getting rid of tax on tips.
Democrats don't want anything to do with it. No tax
on overtime. Democrats have pulled that out in the House
of the budget negotiations. They have already fought against the
tax in tax cuts that were in there. But minimally,

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you've got to keep the tax rate where it is
and not see a big tax increase. It's up to
Republicans that deliver that. Hey, when we come back, we're
going to speak with Utah Chief of Police Brad Bishop
about career day and law enforcement. You're listening to Talk
Radio one nine canter us. But we don't stop joining
me as guest host is Carolyn Fippin. Welcome Carolyn to
the show.

Speaker 3 (58:07):
Happy to be here. Still, Yes, you're hanging in there.

Speaker 9 (58:10):
You know.

Speaker 1 (58:10):
It's a refiners fire here and you're doing a great job.
It's been fun joining us folks on the program. Right
now is the President of the Utah Police Chiefs Association,
Brad Bishop. Chief Bishop, thank you for joining us on
the program. You've got a big event coming up tomorrow.
Maybe you can share with our listeners what you have
in store for them.

Speaker 16 (58:31):
Yeah, thanks Greg. Tomorrow we have our Finderself in Utah
campaign going on at the Post Complex there at the.

Speaker 10 (58:40):
College there and I guess it's Sandy.

Speaker 16 (58:44):
We're having to Find Yourself in Utah campaign career day.
So we're excited to have you know, five or six
hundred students from colleges and high schools come to join
us to find out about how law enforcement works and
how you can get in and what your interests are
in the field.

Speaker 10 (58:59):
And uh, we're expecting a big turnout.

Speaker 1 (59:02):
So so Law Enforcement Chief, thank you. You know you're
the president of the Chiefs. When I was when I
was speaking of the House boy, I interacted a lot
with the president of the chief Utah Chief of Police
Chiefs Association. So you've got a big job in front
of you throughout the year. I think this law this
Law Enforcement Crew Day is really important. Before I get

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into why tell me is it just the chiefs of
police that will be participating or is this broader in
terms of law enforcement those that are going to be
interacting with interested students.

Speaker 10 (59:34):
Yeah, great question. Yeah, it's broad.

Speaker 16 (59:36):
It's it's uh, it includes DPS and all their their
are very various agencies, Corrections, higher patrol SBI, we have
the county sheriffs, UH, police departments. Uh, it's going to
be a lot of representatives from several different agencies all
the way from Washington County, Davis County.

Speaker 10 (59:56):
The basin.

Speaker 16 (59:57):
Quite a few different demonstrats from you know, various agencies.

Speaker 10 (01:00:02):
So it's it's Utah wide.

Speaker 2 (01:00:04):
So, hey, I have a question for you. I feel
like since Trump won his election, President Trump, we have
seen a lot of social and societal narratives kind of
shift around a lot of things, including law enforcement, and
so how has that impacted your recruiting ability throughout the
state of Utah. Are you seeing a change over the

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past six months.

Speaker 16 (01:00:29):
You know, and in my agency, we have seen an
uptick a little bit.

Speaker 10 (01:00:34):
I wouldn't say a drastic change yet. That's kind of
why we're going forward with a campaign to get others
and interested. But you know, when I'm speaking in.

Speaker 16 (01:00:44):
Just particular about Pace and police department where I'm the chief,
we've had, you know, probably about a twenty five percent
increase in applicants, which is which is great. You know,
we'd like to see that higher because of not a
lot of them are certified.

Speaker 10 (01:00:57):
You know, there's some a lot of entry levels.

Speaker 16 (01:00:59):
But yeah, you know, as far as I'm concerned, I've
seen a little bit more, not drastic, but you know,
a step in the right direction.

Speaker 3 (01:01:07):
Yes, certainly.

Speaker 1 (01:01:07):
So what has worried me is I do some work
with our county sheriffs. I've worked with them, and so
I've gotten to understand law enforcement a lot more as
of late. What has been worrying me, just as a
citizen of our state is that you've had this narrative
prior to Trump's election where you saw the riots, You
see how these things happen, and somehow in some way,

(01:01:28):
even in Salt Lake City when we saw the riots
in May of twenty twenty and you saw members of
law enforcement that were harmed, They had rocks, things thrown
at their face. People, you know, stitches that were required
for those members of law enforcement trying to preserve public safety.
The mayor came out after that had happened, saying to
the citizens, if you were ever mistreated by any of the
members of law enforcement, contact our office, which was the

(01:01:51):
exact opposite of what should have been conveyed to the public,
and I think it had a souring effect on many
in law enforcement. My point is this, is there the
emerging workforce, those that would either multi generational that have
had family members that have been in law enforcement, or
you would encourage a family member, a young one to
enter a career in law enforcement. It seems like it

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was a you couldn't win for losing. It was a
dangerous job, and you were being somehow described in a
negative way. Tell me about this emerging workforce you just
mentioned that you're seeing a slight uptick. How are we
going to bring dignity and honor back to such a
critical area of our lives. We cannot have lawlessness. We

(01:02:32):
have to have public safety. How do we bring the
stature back to those that protect and serve.

Speaker 16 (01:02:40):
You know, I think Utah is a little bit different.
I understand, you know, we did have you know, the
riots in that Salt Lake City and that narrative was
taking place. But you know, the unique think about Utah
is I never in my area even thought about losing
the confidence of the people. You know, Utah is good,

(01:03:00):
full of full of great people. You know, it doesn't
matter who you're dealing with, you know, most of them
appreciate what you're doing. And you know, I think even
with that narrative going on across the nation, I think,
you know, Utah, I would say nearly you know, one
hundred percent of the citizens supported what was going on
in the police departments, and there was just those few
outliers that that kind of made it bad for everybody else.

(01:03:25):
But you know, going forward, you know, I think we
were in a good spot. Our our state leaders, our
city leaders, our county leaders are all very positive about
the you know, the steps that law enforcement has taken,
and we've you know, legislation and transparency, you know, all
those things combined, you know, body camerage usage. You know

(01:03:46):
that those type of things has really made a huge difference.
And I think, you know, we we push back on
that narrative because you know, we work with these men
and women every day and we know that's not the
case here in Utah.

Speaker 2 (01:03:58):
Yeah, so I think too, we see these cycles. Right
as the economy is doing better and better, often come
to find out it's because the federal government is dumping
money all throughout the country. But as the economy does
better and better, we often see I think public service
jobs less attractive, right, but as the economy falls, everyone

(01:04:24):
wants to flood to working for the government because there
is a consistency and a safety in being employed by
a governmental entity. And I would assume that you guys
see the same thing. So give me your thoughts about
kind of where you think we are in that cycle
at this time.

Speaker 16 (01:04:43):
You know, I think our local officials have gone a
long ways in getting the pay and benefits, you know,
comparable to a lot of different industries.

Speaker 10 (01:04:54):
That's helped a lot.

Speaker 16 (01:04:55):
You know, for a long time, law enforcement or public
work in general, the pay was you know, less and desirable,
and the really the only thing that kept you there
was the benefits. Nowadays people need the income as much
as they need the benefits. And yeah, and with the
competition of you know, so few, so few applicants for

(01:05:17):
for so you know, so many jobs. It it drove
the pay a little bit higher than we're you know,
historically used to.

Speaker 10 (01:05:25):
And I think we're.

Speaker 16 (01:05:26):
Finally, you know, at a spot where you know, we're
getting some traction the area.

Speaker 10 (01:05:30):
I think the only problem is is our.

Speaker 4 (01:05:32):
Housing costs and that have way out paced And I
don't think that's just a law enforcement obviously, but that
is another factor that's that's creating a little trouble with
us too.

Speaker 9 (01:05:43):
You know.

Speaker 1 (01:05:43):
I got to say that it's so important that on
a career, so a law enforcement career day, that you
have Department of Public Safety, you have our county sheriffs,
you have your police departments, you have everyone's together that
where the career is law enforcement. Because if you don't
see an emerging workforce coming in, then you guys start
to compete against the same employee employers there are same employees,

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and that's never healthy, that's ever a good, that's ever
a that's ever a warm situation when you're losing good
members of your your department, maybe to a different law
enforcement agency. So I love that you guys are all
coming together for a law Enforcement Career Day. You mentioned
Chief that this is at the Post headquarters. I think
it's at four ten West ninety eight hundred South and Sandy.

(01:06:25):
Maybe you could tell our listeners just a little bit
more about the details of if they wanted to learn
more or wanted to participate, where they should go, what
they should do.

Speaker 16 (01:06:34):
Yeah. Yeah, So if you just hop on a website
at ww dot find yourself.

Speaker 10 (01:06:39):
On Utah dot com.

Speaker 16 (01:06:40):
You can sign up there, put your information in there,
give us your email drafts.

Speaker 10 (01:06:44):
That does one or.

Speaker 16 (01:06:45):
Two things that lets us know that you're coming, and
also that if you want to click and say you
want to be contacted by a recruiter, you can click
on that and you know someone will contact you about
you know, your future and law enforcement if you if
you desire to go that way. Also, with the the
event happening at Post tomorrow, there's a lot of things
going on. We're gonna have demonstrations, you know, from our

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search and rescue, our corrections, our motors officers and motorcycle officers,
SWAT teams, drone operators, you know, even some in our
civilian fields such as you know, crime scene investigations or
whether you're you know, you know, working in in a
clerical position whatever. There's going to be a representative from

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several different agencies all over Utah all the way, you know,
even from from Washington County area, bringing some of their
their vehicles and their you know, some of their tactical gear.
Just kind of give you an example of what what
what it's like to be be in one of those
positions and how those things operate. So it's going to
be a great, a great demonstration by a good number

(01:07:51):
of law enforcement.

Speaker 1 (01:07:52):
Officers just just what you just rottled off, the different
ways that you can have a career in law enforcement.
It's it's a lot lot more than I think people
might have imagined. A Chief Brad Bishop, thank you for
joining us on the program. Good luck to your the
law enforcement day tomorrow. Thank you for joining us.

Speaker 10 (01:08:10):
Thanks Greg, take care.

Speaker 1 (01:08:11):
Thanks again. If you want to find out more, go
to find yourself in Utah dot com. That's a blong name,
but that's what it is I'm looking at right now.
Find yourself in Utah dot com. Go to the website.
You'll find out where to go and how to register.
And I don't think you'll be disappointed. If you're youngling,
and you're looking for a good career and it's one
that it's incredibly rewarded and we need it. We need you,

(01:08:32):
so have a look at it. When we come back,
we're going to talk more about Trump. We're going to
talk about these Democrats, what they're up to, what they're doing.
There's some I got some good clips, folks, you want
to hang on over the break when we come back.
You're listening to Utah's Talk Radio one oh five nine
can arrests anyway, I bet thank you for joining me
on the show. So thanks day it's day two. How

(01:08:52):
you feeling.

Speaker 3 (01:08:53):
You're right, I'm making it. I'm making it. Greg.

Speaker 1 (01:08:57):
Thanks, I appreciate it. We all appreciate it. By the way,
she's a big deal. She's been in the arena, the
political arena, and worked with me when I was speaking
of the House, working his house office, worked for Center
Lee's office, been a candidate for the US Senate. You
know this whole state that you know, it's a you
got to following yourself. You show me your social media stuff. Boy,
it's a yeah, you're kind of a big deal.

Speaker 3 (01:09:19):
Yeah.

Speaker 2 (01:09:20):
I like to think that, like no one else around me,
Like in my family agrees with me, but I would like.

Speaker 1 (01:09:26):
To if I see a video and it has a one,
it has an M after the number. So one point
two M, that's not a K, that's an M. He
seems to be quite the following there. So that's a
big deal. So thanks for joining us being the big
deal that you are. So we've been talking about a
lot of things. We've talked about giving this president a
grade for his first hundred days, and I think our

(01:09:48):
callers have been very fair. There's some that have been
not a's, they've been b's. Some one caller gave him
an F because they want He's very he wants. He
doesn't think we have any choice but to see more
than what we're seeing. But anyway, just different. But I
thought there were good cases made for each of those
letter grades. I personally give the man an A given
what I think he's up against. That's and that's not
to say there's not more to do or that there's better,

(01:10:11):
you know, achievables or measurables out there. There has to
be in Congress are Republican Congress, and then it have
to be a big role to play a big role
in that. That's all Yet, to be seen. But I
think the guy is doing as much as you can
do given the kind of opposition. I think that is
truly unprecedented. But let's go to the other side of
the eye. Let's talk about these Democrats things that they're

(01:10:32):
proud of. Right now, I'm going to play for you
a clip. This is a congressman, Okay, and this congressman
is at a town hall meeting and he's trying to
tell he's trying to share his profile encourage like that
he is. He is doing so much that is brave
and is for his constituents. And I want you to

(01:10:52):
hear what it is the case that he makes and
what he would consider being brave in the US Congress
as a member of Congress. Listen to this. Oh hang
on what I say? I said, listen to this.

Speaker 22 (01:11:07):
One of the reasons that even as a frontline member
of Congress, as somebody who won the district of Congress,
that Trump also want said, Wow, if you really had
courage to vote against the lacoln Riley Act, which I didn't.
I voted against the Lincoln Riley Act.

Speaker 1 (01:11:23):
He voted against the Lake and Riley Act. Carolyn, do
you top of mind? Do you know what that Lake
and Riley Act was about. Yeah, I hate to put
you on the spot. Yeah, Well, here's the thing.

Speaker 2 (01:11:36):
That is an act that mandates the detention of immigrants
if they've committed certain crimes, and those crimes go all
the way up to things like death or bodily injury, theft,
assault of a law enforcement officer. Respect right in that case,
we could say easily respect for the rule of law
in the United States of America. And we have people

(01:11:59):
who are bragging about the fact that they do not
support this, and these are not even Americans. This is saying,
if you are not a citizen and you come here
and you commit these crimes, you need to be held.

Speaker 1 (01:12:16):
You need to be held. And it's named after Lake
and Riley, who was brutally murdered I think in Georgia
by an illegal immigrant that had no business being in
this country. Came in under the Biden administration and where
there was no more border control at all. And we
know that because you didn't take some Senate bill that
the Democrats cried they couldn't get, couldn't hoodwink the Senate

(01:12:38):
in Congress from passing.

Speaker 22 (01:12:40):
It.

Speaker 1 (01:12:40):
Just took a president that wanted to protect the border,
and you send a ninety nine percent reduction in border
illegal border crossings. So it didn't take that. But the
congressional bill that passed, by the way, even though this
brave Democrat didn't vote for it, was named after her
because her life was ended because of these violent criminals

(01:13:01):
unvetted coming into this country who right now the president's
trying to deport.

Speaker 2 (01:13:05):
Can I make one other point because I had forgotten
about this piece, and that is that we talked about
this yesterday, that the federal government has been defying federal
law at the expense of American citizens with regard to
illegal aliens for years.

Speaker 3 (01:13:20):
This goes beyond prior to even Biden.

Speaker 2 (01:13:23):
And Lake and Riley Act would allow people who have
been victimized if the federal government doesn't obey this law,
it allows them to sue. It allows them to sue
for the federal government failing to follow the law with
regard to these aliens in our country.

Speaker 1 (01:13:44):
And there should be I mean, I think if government
acts in such a cavalier lors, I mean, look, as
an American citizen, if you do something and it's reckless
enough and irresponsible enough, there is manslaughter. There are charges,
criminal charges, not even tremble. You're talking about a civil penalty.
We're talking about if someone is killed, bey because of
your absolute extreme negligence. You might not even have wanted
to do it, But if you did it because you

(01:14:05):
were that bad, then there's there's even a criminal charge
for that. Of course, the government should be held responsible
if they've just ignored fundamental laws that should have been
followed all along. And that guy was saying in his
in being applauded by the way at his town hall
meeting for being brave for voting against such a piece
of legislation. Because again, the Democrats have spent more energy

(01:14:26):
and the regime media protecting, defending, showing care and concern
for the most violent offenders, for those that are here
illegally at the expense of the American people. They've never
shown this kind of Again, Lake and Riley should at
least earn the kind of sympathy that they keep spending
on or attention that they're giving to the illegal, violent

(01:14:48):
illegal aliens are in this country. Again, another we talked about,
who are you going to get for president? After President
Trump's gone On the Democrat side, I've been saying all along,
if you look at California, that's their model. California is
the way they've been able to reportion, you know, let
illegal aliens in and be able to count their their
congressional districts so they get more in congress. How they're

(01:15:09):
able to tip the scale on all those seats that
used to be held by Republicans and now Democrats hold
them that and where So then where does the state
go once it's it has you know, unchallenged powers a
political party. Well, you get bills like this. A state
senator in California wants to decriminalize welfare fraud. That is

(01:15:29):
a below an amount of just twenty five thousand dollars
last thousand dollars. It would prohibit the prosecution of attempted
welfare fraud if and would prohibit someone from being charged
with perjury if they are subject to prosecution for welfare fraud.
I don't even know what the what the simple justification
of that would be. Also, we got to go to
break bit California. In addition to that, their state legislature

(01:15:51):
is blocking a bill to make sex trafficking of miners
a felony. Straight faced, they they've blocked a bill and
a committee because they don't want to make it a felony.
That's right to traffic miners. That's the direction of California.
That's the direction, the only direction I can sense the
Democrats want to go, even Nashally going over everything. It's
one hundred days since President Trump has taken office, and

(01:16:13):
we've been giving grades. We've been talking about the good
things he's done, some of the things we want to
see more of. I'm talking about these Democrats in contrast,
which is a great contrast and not a good one.
But right now, we want to go to an interview
that Rod had with the Make a Wish Foundation. He
was speaking with Summer Airman and Brad Strong of the
Strong Automotive Group talking about this campaign in this drive

(01:16:37):
and the question that he asked was, what is this
Drive for Wishes campaign really all about?

Speaker 15 (01:16:43):
Well, April is a fantastic month that Make a Wish Utah.
First of all, this month it's our sixth annual Drive
for Wishes campaign, and we're also celebrating World Wish Month,
So our Drive for Wishes campaign again, it's our sixth year.
Throughout the month, you'll see our Wish cars traveling all
across the state. We partner with Strong Auto Group, Brad

(01:17:05):
is kind enough to loan us a few cars for
the month. We decorate those with our logo and those
of our sponsors, and we hold wish proclamations throughout the state.
These are Wish events that the public can attend to
see the magic and the hope of a wish unfold
before their eyes. And it's a large public awareness and

(01:17:26):
fundraising campaign as well.

Speaker 13 (01:17:28):
And those stories are absolutely amazing and make a Wish
foundation and seeing those kids and everything else. Brad, You've
been involved in this for a long time, a lot
of support. You know what prompted you at the beginning
to get involved and how has that involvement progressed over
the years, Brad Well.

Speaker 14 (01:17:43):
I donated some money and got to know Daniel Dudley,
the director and president, and they, between he and I
got together and were trying to come up with a
plan to raise more money, and between he and I
and the board, they came up with the Try for
Wishes of campaign and I was lucky enough to have

(01:18:05):
them choose our group to be the be the supplier
of the cars and be involved. So it's just such
a great thing.

Speaker 10 (01:18:13):
That they do.

Speaker 13 (01:18:13):
When you hear these stories, what impact does that have
on you? Bride?

Speaker 14 (01:18:16):
Oh just gets Europe because I do. I try, I
try to. I try not to cry. I mean the
emotional part when they when they get their wish granted,
When you read that proclamation, it's just so heartwarming and
they've been through so much. These kids have been through
so much. It just it's great.

Speaker 13 (01:18:33):
Yeah. Every every season, this time of year, summer, you
celebrate the first Wish with a Make a Wish Foundation.
In the campaign, tell us about that first wish.

Speaker 9 (01:18:42):
What happened?

Speaker 15 (01:18:43):
Well, So Make a Wish was born from one singular
act of incredible kindness. In nineteen eighty a seven year
old little boy named Chris Gracious who lived in Arizona.
He was diagnosed with leukemia, but his greatest wish was
to be a police officer. Reached out to some people
that she knew, and before she knew it, six incredible

(01:19:06):
humans had rallied an entire community to support Chris. They
granted a wish for him during his darkest days, and
after witnessing that impact, that group of volunteers carried forth
the hope of a wish into what we have today,
so globally, since that moment in nineteen eighty on April
twenty ninth, when Chris received his first wish, six hundred

(01:19:29):
thousand wishes have been granted.

Speaker 13 (01:19:32):
That is absolutely mean. Why has it spread like that?
I mean, that's amazing. What is the attractiveness of a
Make a Wish Foundation? Why people want to get involved?

Speaker 15 (01:19:42):
Well, I'll tell you what Make a Wish Utah does
what it does only because we have a vast network
of wish makers. These are corporate supporters, volunteers, individuals who
believe in the hope of a wish. They carry forth
this charge that we have to bring hope to kids
during their most darkest times of their lives. Excuse me.

(01:20:06):
And we have studies that show that the impact of
a wish impacts the entire community, not just a wish kid,
or not just a kid and a parent. So we
know for sure that that child is the hope, just
the beginning of the ripples in a pond of hope
that extend from that experience. And I will tell you
from personal experience, and Brad has shared, once touched by

(01:20:27):
the hope of a wish, a person is forever changed.
And you can't help but want to share that and
make it hope and help it spread.

Speaker 13 (01:20:35):
Boy, I love that expression, the hope of a wish.
What a beautiful expression that is.

Speaker 14 (01:20:40):
Bread.

Speaker 13 (01:20:40):
As you talk with other business leaders and business that
get involved, or you tell them about why they shouldn't
get involved, what's your selling point?

Speaker 14 (01:20:48):
What do you tell them about just the reaction that
we get from these children and what it does to
their lives for what they've been through. I mean when
we started this, we had nineteen sponsors and now we
have fifty five generous sponsors this year.

Speaker 13 (01:21:02):
Wow.

Speaker 14 (01:21:02):
We start with one car, now we have three cars
because we have so many sponsors, so we have to
we want to put their logo on a car. And again,
like Summer said, these cars travel the state and do
fundraising events and grant wishes and it's just so gratifying, right.

Speaker 13 (01:21:19):
It speaks to the generosity of this community in this state, doesn't.
I mean, this is a state that just hey, we'll
chip in and we'll get it done. It really can
do attitude.

Speaker 14 (01:21:27):
Yeah, it is. There are a lot of really generous companies,
and these guys do a great job getting out there
in front of them and getting them involved.

Speaker 13 (01:21:35):
If if you have a family that wants to get
involved to make a wish, what is the process like, Summer.

Speaker 15 (01:21:41):
Oh, it's incredible. So first of all, if we have
a family who has a child who's been diagnosed with
a critical or life threatening condition, they can go on
our website and there's a form that says click refer
a child and simply click a button and let us
know about that child. We take it from there. Also,
medical professionals refer children to us. In fact, seventy percent
of the kids that come to us come from medical

(01:22:04):
practitioner referrals. And then additionally, if anyone wants to get
involved with Make a issu Utah, they can do it
through becoming a volunteer. We have a vast volunteer force,
and they can do it through becoming a corporate sponsor.
We provide many paths to the community in order to
connect with our mission and our and what we do.

Speaker 10 (01:22:23):
Summer.

Speaker 13 (01:22:23):
Are you concerned that the demand is becoming so large
that there's really a challenge to meet it each and
every week or day.

Speaker 1 (01:22:30):
Well, I'll tell you what.

Speaker 15 (01:22:30):
We're granting a wish nearly every day of the week
at makeo Issue Utah. We grant between two hundred and
twenty and two hundred and fifty wishes every year right
here in the state of Utah for kids who live
next door. They're in our communities, they're in our schools,
they're right next door to us, they're our family members.
All of those wishes are only granted because we have
generous supporters who provide that local funding. We're completely locally funded,

(01:22:55):
and we grant wishes only in this state, so our
ability to keep up with demand. We know that there
are more children out there who qualify for a wish,
but we're not reaching them. So our ability to raise
funds through campaigns like Driver for Wishes with fantastic supporters
like Strong Auto will help us stand in the gap
for our families.

Speaker 13 (01:23:14):
Bred I mentioned you talked to business leaders about getting
involved in this, But what would your message be to
the average a listener who's just listening to this right
now and saying, boy, I love this. I've heard this
wonderful organization, what they do for these kids. How can
I get involved? What's your message to people? Prabas well?

Speaker 14 (01:23:30):
The numbers growing every day and we just want to
do as many wishes as we can. So we just
encourage them to get involved and donate money or do
whatever they can to help.

Speaker 13 (01:23:41):
Do you have a website? What's the best way to donate?

Speaker 15 (01:23:44):
Well, we do have a website to donate. There's many
paths to be able to donate. We do have a website.
Folks can go on that website and learn about Make
a issu Utah what we do. They can learn how
to volunteer, refer a child, or donate and the website
is www dot wish dot org slash Utah. They can

(01:24:04):
also just stop by our office. We have a great
office in Murray. Give us a caller, stop by. We'd
love to see him.

Speaker 1 (01:24:09):
Summer Airman and Bradstrong with a Make a Wish Foundation.
What a great a great organization and it has grown
so much over the years, just on the side of angels. Literally,
that is an amazing organization doing good, good things. Glad
Rod was able to interview them before he left for
his sunny vacation. K Folks, when we come back, we

(01:24:30):
got a final segment for you. I'll go over some
odds and ends before we end the show here, So
hang on over the break. You're listening to Talk Radio
one oh five nine canterists. Okay, I want to get
a couple things out before we end the show, and
I know we only have a few minutes. Michelle Obama
so upset Carolyn, she just can't sleep at night.

Speaker 2 (01:24:47):
I know she looks like she's had trouble sleeping.

Speaker 1 (01:24:50):
So she's so so upset. And why it's because of
the president's immigration policy. And she thinks it's very she says,
it's very aggressive. Quote it frightens me. It keeps me
up at night. She says, how do you feel comfortable
going to work or going to school? And how could
people out there, why people are judging you could up
end your life in a second. That's what I worry

(01:25:11):
about right now. Well, wait a minute, I've said on
the show, and I said it made in one of
the cases, Trump's not even hitting her husband's standard on deportation.
The good news sixty five thousand, eight six hundred illegal
aliens were during the first hundred days of Trump's administration
have been deported. You have sixty six thousand, four hundred

(01:25:33):
illegal aliens, seventy five percent of which are have criminal
charges or convictions, which include almost five hundred for murder,
thirteen hundred for sex offenders twenty two, two hundred and
eighty eight or gang members here's the other. But here's
what I don't understand what Michelle sow up so worried about.
If you take that number, that's going to get you
to about two hundred and forty thousand illegals deported a year.

(01:25:55):
Oil Obama was put was thrown out four hundred thousand
illegals every single year. How did she think he got
away with that? Is she upset that that Trump's just
not meeting the pace of her husband Obama, that he
can't measure up in the mass deportation.

Speaker 2 (01:26:11):
Hey, let's be honest, Greg, it's that the media did
not tell her to be upset over this over it
when it was her husband, right, and they have told
her to be upset now. Donald Trump's pace is two
thirds of Obama's. Yeah, two thirds under two thirds.

Speaker 1 (01:26:28):
And I never want to see President Trump fall short
of an Obama standard of anything in life. So let's
hope this number gets up more. But the way he's
getting two hundred and plus two hundred and forty lawsuits
and one hundred days in office by you know, trying
to stop his agenda in every way, shape and form.
He's got to break through all of that. A lot
of work to do, but you better. I don't know
how they will have succeeded in the Biden years of

(01:26:51):
getting people here illegally and using that for political power
if they are not able to up that pace for
mass deportation and in his long as you can see,
Obama outpaced them. I don't know how the Democrats can
with a straight face argue that there's some some night,
some massive you know, deportations going on that they think
so wrong. Hey, before we leave, you're on Instagram. You

(01:27:12):
got like five set night that you did some kind
of video. Before we start to show, what's your Instagram
page so people can.

Speaker 2 (01:27:17):
It's just Carolyn Fippen c A r O L y
N p h I P p e N. We got
about nine thousand views since the show started, so you know,
and you can that I've been doing it a couple
of months. Yeah, you know, I don't have to rub
it in. Yeah, And that's just that's small ball compared
to some of your other ones. You got a lot,
you got a lot of views watching it, but you

(01:27:38):
did it right before we came on the show.

Speaker 1 (01:27:39):
I haven't done that stuff. I'm not into the technling
you are, but but it was a good little, uh
little description of issues we be covering and got some views.
So if you if you're on Insta that the kids
call it, check it out. Carolyn is it on Instagram?
It's Carolyn Fippen or what is Carolyn Pippin? Yeah, okay,
there you go there? All right, Well, hey, thanks than

(01:28:00):
for joining. Are you in for the rest of the week?
You still coming in?

Speaker 3 (01:28:02):
I am in.

Speaker 2 (01:28:03):
Nobody has sent me a plane ticket to head to
the beach, so I'm in a.

Speaker 1 (01:28:07):
All right, Okay, Well, there you have it. You're gonna
join us. We're gonna have the fun. We have so
much fun planned for you this week. So you have
to stay tuned for the rest of this week. Here
on Utah's Talk Radio one five nine Can r S.
As we come to the close of the show, I
want you to keep your chin down, your eyes forward,
your hands up, and keep answering the bell. We'll see
you tomorrow at four pm. Again here on Talk Radio

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