The Rod and Greg Show: Weekend Strikes in Iran; Closure of Hormuz; Control of National Guard

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Speaker 1 (00:00):
So everyone, I said on Friday as we said goodbye,
I don't know what's happening weekend. Probably going to be
a very boring weekend. Don't know what we'll be able
to talk about on Monday. Probably have to look at
the Sunday shows. Hope I can find something. Yeah, it
was quite quite the weekend and quite an event. It
was very much event filled. So we have a lot
to discuss, a lot to go over. On the program today,

(00:24):
we're going to speak with the president, executive editor, editor
in chief of the Daily Signal. If you haven't seen
the Daily Signal, it's an offshoot of the Heritage Foundation,
but it's a media source. It's a digital media source.
They have what they're credentialed in the White House. They're
part of the White House Press Corps. Rob Leuie, he
oversees their news gathering, news commentary work. Rob Louie is

(00:47):
going to join us on the program. We're going to
talk He had an amazing So I saw this over
the weekend, in this crazy weekend after the attack, the
successful airstrike against Iran that the United States conducted, and
on Friday he was Rob Lewie was part of a
I didn't even know meat de Press did this. But
they have these shows, I guess on weeknight's. But on

(01:08):
Friday night they had a show and he and his
guest spoke about the two weeks that the President spoke
about could be as as could be really an attack
as soon as this weekend, and they and they spoke
about it. We're going to talk to Rob about what
he what he knew. I don't think he knew anything.
They kept the leaks from happening, but it was knowing
what we knew and nim me watching that clip, I

(01:30):
thought it was it was great. He at least had
a lot of good foresight going into that show. And
we're going to hear from him. We're going to go
over the facts of what happened. We're going to hear
a little bit from our president what he spoke. He
dressed in the nation on Saturday evening at ten pm
Eastern eight pm Western time. I saw a comment that
said ten pm Eastern is this a PAC twelve game

(01:53):
football game? Because it seemed to be pretty late for
the people back east. Anyway, we have a clip from that.
We have a lot of reaction, as you can imagine,
because we've talked about this a lot on the show.
Whatever position Donald Trump takes as president, and it doesn't
matter how common sense it will be, the Democrats feel
or cannot control the need to oppose it. They have

(02:16):
to oppose it. They can't, they can't let it stand.
They can't, they can't be good with it. So a
lot of criticism over the airstrikes, a lot of criticism
that the president did not inform Congress or the or
did not inform the Democrat leaders in Congress. Turns out,
as Monday rolls around and Carolyn Levitt's back at the job,

(02:36):
that looks like that's not true. CNN reported that it
doesn't look like it's true. A couple Republicans or one Democrat.
Our guy hat John Fetterman from Pennsylvania. He's not reading
off the talking point memos that the Democrats are passing
out and the leftists are passing out. He supported the
the PRECIS precision strike that happened. We'll go over that too.

(02:59):
We'll go over what what happ how this operation took place,
and what was involved. And then one of the things
that I want to get I want to go into
the history a little bit. A couple points of history.
One about the idea that you can just hug your
way out of a country's interest or goal in becoming
a nuclear powered nation like North Korea. Bill Clinton tried this.

(03:23):
They signed flowery agreements. They said, pinky swear you'll never
have a nuclear bomb, and they pinky sweared and swore,
and they you know, by two thousand and three they
had two thousand and three or two thousand and six,
after the ninety four agreement, they were they have nuclear bombs.
They have them.

Speaker 2 (03:39):
Now.

Speaker 1 (03:39):
The treaties didn't work, the inspections didn't work. We're going
to get into some of those facts just so that
you know it, so that you can compare. Should we
have just tried, you know, some flowery agreements to sign
what is a trigger date? I think I share with
you zero interest in nation building, zero interest. If I
see Lindsey Graham and that lunatic Bolton excited, I want

(04:01):
to go the opposite direction. I have no interest in
any of that. I don't believe that the president does either.
But he doesn't want a regime that is funding it
and sponsoring terrorism around the world to a have a
nuclear bomb and con and b continue to send terrorists
around the world, and so their demise is certainly on
on President Trump's list if they're going to continue in

(04:23):
that way. So I think that doesn't necessarily mean nation
I don't think it's nation building. It might be regime
change in a way that's more organic. But I think
he's I think he's also trolling Iran to say, look,
you you keep being Iran and we're going to keep
being US, and you're going to be on the wrong
end of that. So I think that's something worth talking about.

(04:45):
How will that roll out? Is Trump alienating his base
of those that want to make America great again because
he seems to be get involved in yet another Middle
East conflict? Or were there circumstances here that you know,
you have to address the is what it is, and
you have to act when you know it. So we'll
we'll talk about those things as well. Later in the program.

(05:07):
We're going to talk about that. This is I this
is the funniest thing I ran in a way to
potentially punish the United States for what they did have
been contemplating and closing the Strait of Hormuz or Hermus
what however they say it to you know, who really
really hates that idea because that's where a lot of
oil is being used as a as a you know,

(05:30):
a route, a supply route for for oil gas. You know,
the person that they announced they were going to jam
that up, stop it, hoping to cause some pain to
the United States and its allies. China came out and said,
you better not do that. We need your oil that
goes through that strait, and so you better not. So

(05:52):
they even got reviewed by China today for even talking
about that. But we have a good interview about that
topic later in the program with Daniel Turner, he's the
executive director of Power of the Future, talk about what
the consequences could be would have been with that straight
being blockaded, and what the United States should do to

(06:13):
be more energy independent. So we got a lot to
go over. Oh, Supreme Court decision just came out. It's
got a lot of Democrats, leftists weeping and whaling on
a six to three vote. Is it six to three?
I think I think yeah, I think it was sixty three.
The Supreme Court ruled that you know, Trump administration for

(06:34):
now can deport people to third other countries than their
home of origin if necessary. That was something that a
district court or some lower court blocked, and the Supreme
Court just ruled that the president can continue that for now.
So that's a big win. That's something that that he
was doing and had been delayed. See, all the leftists

(06:55):
wanted to do is to slow President Trump down. They
know that it's well within his right to deport illegal
and people that are here illegally. It's a federal law.
You can enforce federal law. But if they can slow
it down, if they can gum it up, they're hoping
that they will be able to, you know, keep as
many of the people that Biden left let in here
illegally stay here at permanently. They think it's a Trump problem.

(07:16):
They hope that the next president, Republican or Democrat, they
can pressure and raise the misery index to get their way.
And we had a congressman, I think, I think just
recently just say, a Democrat congressman say yeah, no, they
shouldn't be illegal, so let's make them legal and let's
let them vote. He said that out loud, So it's like, yeah,
that's what we were kind of thinking, you were thinking.

(07:38):
So there's a lot to go over on all, a
lot to unpack on all this. I even want to
get into this idea. And I think we have a
clip where one of our favorite members of Congress Crockett,
what's her first name, he Ray Crockett. What's her name, Jasmine,
So Congresswoman Jasmine Crockett. She fancies herself very very smart

(08:01):
on the issues of the role of Congress and you know,
and conflict president dropping bombs and says that because Congress
wasn't involved, didn't pass the resolution to do it, it's
just all illegal. Well, if you carry that logic through,
there's a there's quite a number of presidents, including President
Barack Obama being the greatest defender, who would not fit

(08:22):
well with the Jasmine Crockett and her her estimate of
what's legal and not. You have you have to apply
some real, you know, intellectual yoga to try and just
lay this at the feet of President Trump. This was
a very specific and centralized strike. It wasn't going to
war per se. And I hear that that the bass,

(08:44):
the American bass and cutter Qatar cutter Iran Iran Iranian
leaders Iran let the country of Qatar know they were
going to be bombing or sending in missiles. They let
the base know, gave him a runway have time. They
wanted to be able to on behalf of their people

(09:05):
and to show some strength amongst the Iranians that they
were responding. But the word on the street is that's it,
that that was going to be there what they call
a commensurate response to the attack, that they just they
just felt and that that will be the end of it.
We'll see, we'll see if that's the end of it.

(09:25):
But that's not the strongest statement coming out of Iran
that you would expect. If all the chicken littles that
say the sky is falling were to be correct, that
would not be what you would hear from Iran. You'd
hear something very different in tone and maybe even in action.
So we'll find out lots, as I said, at a
lot out there. We'll be talking about it all here

(09:47):
on the Rotting Greg Show. Hang on. Over the break,
you're listening to Utah's Talk Radio one oh five nine.

Speaker 3 (09:53):
Can ter ess.

Speaker 1 (09:53):
We're going to keep going over all the different details
of what's happening, because even while we just got on
the air, there was a something that shot across the
news wires and it's from Donald Trump on his truth
social according to this. Now, look, this is just minutes old,
not very old at all. I'm going to read what's
been said, and I believe that it's true. But we'll see.

(10:17):
It's like I said, six oh two is when it
came out Eastern time. That will be four two. It's
about twenty minutes ago. So it says congratulations to everyone.
It has been fully agreed by and between Israel and
Iran that there will be a complete and total ceasefire
and approximately six hours from now, when Israel and Iraq
have wound down and completed their in progress final missions

(10:38):
for twelve hours, at which point the war will be
considered ended officially, Iran will start the ceasefire, and upon
the twelfth hour, Israel will start the ceasefire, and upon
the twenty fourth hour, an official end to the twelve
day war will be saluted by the world. During each ceasefire,
the other side will remain peaceful and rep on the

(11:01):
assumption that everything works as it should, and in pure
Trump way says which it will. I would like to
congratulate both countries, Israel and Iran, for having the stamina, courage,
and intelligence to end what should be called the Twelve
Day War. This is a war that could have gone
on for years and destroyed the entire Middle East, but
it didn't and never will. God bless Israel, God bless Iran,

(11:24):
God bless the Middle East, God bless the United States
of America, and God bless the world.

Speaker 2 (11:29):
Donald J.

Speaker 1 (11:29):
Trump, President of the United States. So there you go,
folks that if that is carried out, a ceasefire is important. Now,
I will tell you I don't trust Iran at all.
I think that they for purposes of survival alone and
anything that they that they can salvage from what's happened
over the weekend, they're going to want to salvage and

(11:51):
going to want to continue forward. I think if they
did not offer or be willing to be part of
a ceasefire, that it was going to get worse and
worse and worse. And you know, whether there's an ability
amongst the people to have a regime change, it needs
to come from the people that I know the president well.
I think that the President of the United States has

(12:11):
been consistent. He's not into nation building in Afghanistan and Iraq.
The twenty years that they United States got involved in
all that I know, I don't want to be so
I think it's always been incumbent on the people of
ira of Iran to decide what they want to do.
And I think that the leadership and the government of
Iran knows they are not in a good place if
they don't find peace. So I think that's good news.

(12:35):
But I would always I think that, and I know
that they're cautious about those types of things. That doesn't
mean that it's all rosy now and perfect, but I
do think that that is progress. And I'll tell you this,
it's something that people said wasn't going to happen there.
How about the fact that after this weekend oil didn't
even go over seventy bucks a barrow. It's below seventy

(12:55):
dollars a barrel. Now we were told you attack Iran,
gas is going to go through the roof every single
draconian skies falling World War three prediction if the United
States use those bunker busters to get to those areas
where they were they were enriching uranium and they were
they were really preparing a nuclear bomb to get down

(13:17):
to where those areas were. To do that would be
would be to start a world war, and we have
not seen anything of like that. We've seen pretty much
the opposite. Before I found that out, I had a part,
I had something that I want to share with you,
and I found the source. It's NBC News, NBC News,
and some people have covered it. Some news organizations today

(13:38):
have covered this before this announcement that just happened. Like
I said at the top of the hour from the President,
the uh. The narrative is, oh, oh, you made Iran mad.
They're gonna come, they get they have sleeper cells. Joe
Biden left, let so many people in. There's there's Iranians
all over, you know, the United States, and now we're
going to get attacked. There's going to be a terrorist attack,

(13:59):
and it's going to be Trump's fault because he, you know,
we bombed Iran's nuclear facilities this weekend. So NBC has
a story where they said, NBC has learned that Iran
sent a message to President Trump at the G seven
summit that if he ordered strikes on Iran's nuclear facilities,
then Iran could activate sleeper sales in the United States

(14:22):
to launch terror attacks. According to two US officials, President
Trump said the US strikes completely obliterated Iran's nuclear program. Well,
I got to tell you this. We have this general rule.
You don't negoti to the United States. Does that you
don't negotiate with terrorists? Why would you not negotiate with terrorists?

(14:42):
The reason you don't is because if you were to
give in to someone's threat, and if you make a
decision out of fear, what you've taught the people that
are threatening you is that that works. That's a great
way to get what you want, and you will just
invite of whatever it is they're threatening to do. So

(15:04):
that's terrorists. Now, if you're Iran and you're sponsoring terrorism,
and you are a terrorist minded regime, the I would argue, though,
nanosecond from the lips to the president's ears, if he did,
in fact hear what NBC News is saying, a threat
that if the United States engaged with Israel that there

(15:26):
would be sleeper cells, it would be released, and terror
attacks conducted in the United States. That is the exact moment,
if it hadn't already been decided that the United States
would join that conflict and bomb that country. Why because
if you didn't, then it worked. Because what Iran just
told you, If the news report is true, is they

(15:47):
do have sleeper cells here, and they are willing to
use them, and they are willing to see and have
it at the ready. The ability to attack this country
from within, Well that's just a deal breaker right there.
I think that you have to respond to something like
that the way you saw this weekend roll out, and
if you're going to threaten in the United States and

(16:08):
you're going to say, if you don't do what we say,
this is what's going to happen. I think he's morally
obligated at that point. You are going to go in there,
even if you weren't before. Now you kind of have
to because you can't let threats like that, even the
perception that a threat like that would work, because you'll
just get more and more and more of it. So anyway,
I think that's an important little detail. I'm proud of

(16:30):
this administration that attacks or threats like that do not
deter you know, strong and strong, powerful leadership. So, Okay,
we have another break coming. When we come back. We're
going to talk to Rob Leuis. He is the president
executive director of The Daily Signal about this weekend, what
happened and his discussion on Friday before it happened, kind

(16:51):
of what his take was and what his take is now,
so you want to hear that when we come back.
You're listening to Talk radio one oh five to nine canters.
We saw the strike. We saw that the United States
participated the bunker busters, the flights of the bombers that
took off in the United States and made that successful
route and and deployed those those precision bombs and succeeded

(17:15):
in what they're doing. And since we started the show today,
there's an announcement of a ceasefire between Iran and Israel.
That is something that I think a lot of people
did not predict either and thought that might not happen.
Looks like it's happening in real time over the weekend
on Friday.

Speaker 2 (17:31):
However.

Speaker 1 (17:32):
Rob Leuie, who I've gotten to know by the way,
he's the executive director president of the Daily Signal. If
you if you listen to if you're on social media
and you're looking at who the conservative opinion leaders are, columnists,
news reporters, Daily Signal is one of the places that
you go. They have White House credentials. You know, they're
just they're they're very very good. Rob Leuie is a

(17:53):
great guy. He saw this coming and he's I think
their digital work is a top top shelf anyway, So
when I saw this clip of Rob participating in a
meet to press interview this Friday, I wanted to have
him on the show just to kind of talk about it.
But I want you to hear just a small clip
of what they discussed on Friday. Remember this is before
the attack or anything else up hang on.

Speaker 4 (18:15):
That's it remains to be seen exactly what these next
two weeks or if it's even two weeks look like.
When it comes to what the president could do. Could
this be an attempt to deceive Iran into some sort
of comfort, to allow conversations play out and then perhaps
they do an attack. I don't know this weekend.

Speaker 5 (18:34):
So Rob, explaining kind of Kevin's point about where Donald
Trump was during the campaign versus where he is now,
said he didn't want to start forever wars, did not
want to intervene in foreign entanglements. He seems closer and
closer to doing both of those things. And what could
be the explanation, particularly to that magabase that right now
seems very concerned that he's heading in this direction.

Speaker 6 (18:54):
Sure, and I think if it's a targeted strike, if
it's just on the nuclear facility, that's one thing. I
think that there's strong opposition across the board of Republicans
and Democrats to obviously send troops to Iran. But if
you have a situation where the president feels that the
Iranians are not coming to the table and willing to talk,
and so far it seems that that's the case. Ryan,
I think the president will rely on the intelligence. Yes,

(19:17):
he's going to be informed by some of those big
voices in the MAGA movement, but at the end of
the day, American lives are valuable. He is reluctant to
send troops into harm's way. He has demonstrated that over
the course of his tenure as president, and I think
ultimately that's what he's going to be weighing his decision.

Speaker 1 (19:34):
So you heard it last comment. I don't know, maybe
even this weekend, and Rob Leui went on to talk
about this joining us on the program. Rob Lewie, executive
director The Daily Signal, Rob, thank you for joining us
on the program. You got to share with our listeners.
Did you have any inclination, any inside info that Trump
would be going in this weekend after Iran's nuclear facilities,

(19:55):
where you just you can see around corners. What is it?

Speaker 7 (19:58):
Well, Greg, first of all, it's great to be with you.
Thank you for inviting me. And no, I was not
bringing any intel, and nor were any of these other commentators.
I shall say, but I think that it's entirely consistent
with what President Trump does. Is because he is somebody
who is a master of these plans. And this is

(20:19):
I think one of the things that frustrated him so
much about the disastrous withdrawal from Afghanistan, because you heard
him talk about that consistently in the campaign trailer, and
you just knew that if somebody like President Trump were
in charge, he would not let something like that happen.
And so contrast that with a successful mission over the
weekend on Saturday in Iran, and what you have with

(20:42):
You had a situation earlier in the week where Caroline
Leavitt and President Trump and all the White House aides
were saying, oh, within a matter of two weeks and
a lot of people, including the host to meet the press,
thought this is you know, probably going to be something
that we'll be dealing with maybe around you know, the
first week of July or something, and the President's going
to use this time to figure out exactly, you know,
if he can get into the same room with some

(21:04):
of the Iranian leaders. He apparently was going to dispatch
Steve Whitkoff and Vice President danced to Turkey for talk. No,
it was all a decoy interception. The president even, you know,
down to the detail. He dispatched some of the B
two bombers to fly west. Well, the others flew east
with the big munitions that actually destroyed the nuclear sites,

(21:27):
and so right down to the details, I think it's
entirely consistent with President Trump and this element of surprise.
You never know really what you're going to get with
this president. I think that's what makes him effective and
why the American people respond so favorably to him.

Speaker 1 (21:40):
We're speaking with Rob Leuis. He is the president executive
editor of The Daily Signal, talking about a panel of
Meet the Press that was aired on a Friday, where
you guys really de contemplated this could happen a lot
sooner than two weeks and then lo and behold, we
saw this. There's a lot of clips of a lot
of presidents Democrats, Biden, you have Obama, you and had

(22:00):
Hillary Clinton as a candidate saying that we would not
ever allow or I Ran to have nuclear capabilities bomb
if necessary, and then they went and gave I Ran
a ton of money and all that time. Are we
safer today with President Trump's approach? And is it a
different approach than what we've heard? I mean, the outcome
sounds the same that these Democrat candidates or presidents had

(22:20):
said in the past. But is are we safer today
after the efforts of President Trump?

Speaker 7 (22:26):
Well, Greg, I certainly believe that we are. I don't
think that that threat is entirely gone. Clearly, the Iranians
we were launching a missile strike on a US base
in cutter today. They did give the United States a
heads up and a warning about that. President Trump has
come out and said that he hopes that this is
the end of the fighting and that Iran will come

(22:47):
to the table and talk and we'll see if anybody
can do it. I think it's Donald Trump. Here's the
thing that gives me pause. Over the course of the
last four years, of course, we've had a massive invasion
of the legal aliens into this country, and we know
that during Joe Biden's watch as president, a number of
suspected terrorists were probably among those individuals who enter the

(23:09):
United States. Now, were any of those Iranians potential terrorists
who could inflict damage on our homeland possibly, So I
think we need to be vigilant. You saw several governors
come out over the course of the weekend and encourage
individuals to just be on heightened alert, and so we
have to just in our natural day to day lives
be aware of these things that are going on. But

(23:29):
at the end of the day, I truly think that
President Trump wants peace. I think that all of us
who believe that the world's a safer place when we
don't have these hostile actors and a state sponsor of
terrorism like Iran with in possession of nuclear weapons, that's
a good thing. And it's probably going to take some days,
if that week's to get the full assessment of the

(23:51):
damage that was done, But certainly early indications suggest that
this was a successful mission, and the American people are
breathing a sigh of relief that after successive administrations Republicans
and Democrats, we finally had a president who was willing
to do something about it.

Speaker 1 (24:06):
Rob final question, and this is this is a tough one,
and I don't know that there's any right or wrong answer,
but I don't and you don't have to comment on this.
But when Lindsey Graham's giddy, I'm not exactly happy. I'm
not really in that camp. However, I don't want to.
President Trump said that regime change or whatever it may be,
if these guys that are in charge now aren't in

(24:27):
charge later, he doesn't see that as a bad scenario.
Make I ran great again, is what he said. But
what's the difference between getting rid of a basically a
terrorist sponsoring and terrorist minded nation or its leaders and
not spending twenty years in Iraq trying to nation build?
What is that sweet spot?

Speaker 2 (24:45):
Do you see? Well?

Speaker 7 (24:47):
I certainly think that the Iranian people need to rise
up and demonstrate for themselves that they want to see
a change in leadership that's happened in the past. The
supreme leader, the Iapola has those movements, as you and
I both know, and so I recognize that this is
far from a democracy and they have a repressive regime there.

(25:09):
So it's very difficult for individuals in a circumstance like
that to speak up. But yeah, there's not an appetite
I don't think among Republicans, Democrats, liberals, conservatives to send
troops to to Iran to engage in nation building as
we saw take place and fail largely in Iraq and Afghanistan.
And there's definitely not an appetite for the United States

(25:30):
to come in and demand regime change. I think Donald Trump,
you know, in some cases, could you could consider that
to be a you know, troll wing maybe on his
part when he suggests, you know, a thing that's something
that Trump would do.

Speaker 8 (25:43):
Now.

Speaker 7 (25:43):
At the end of the day, though, I think that
the experiences that we've all lived through over the course
of the last couple of decades indicate that there's a
right way to go about this. And I think that
that's what Trump has done so far, a targeted strike
versus a prolonged engagement. And I will say, and I
think that this is true again, the American people are

(26:06):
just not going to go want to go down that road,
and Lindsey Graham and others who are suggesting that we do,
I think are out of step with where the majority
of the American people.

Speaker 2 (26:15):
Are these days.

Speaker 6 (26:17):
Thank you.

Speaker 1 (26:17):
Rob Leoi, President, executive director of Daily Signal. I think
you're not wrong. I think he's I think he's seeing
it right. And I thank you for joining us on
the program. Okay, folks, we're gonna take a break and
we come back lots more to discuss. You're listening to
talk Radio one oh five nine canter Us as we
came on the show today. It looks like the president's
announcing that there is a ceasefire between Israel and Iran,

(26:38):
calling it the twelve Day War. But we're gonna what
I want to do. I know we were just coming
up a couple of minutes. I got a clip here
from a Congressman Crocker. I mentioned her at the beginning
of the show, very upset about Trump that he didn't
have Congress give him the permission to authorize his strike.
I want you to hear what she had to say
real quickly.

Speaker 9 (26:55):
You could have hollered at us on Monday if you
truly felt like there was something like there is nothing
that they will say that will make me believe that
this action needed to take place, and it needed to
take place without the consultation of the Congress. I'm not
saying these things because I'm a Democrat. I'm saying these

(27:17):
things because I am a black woman in America who
just happens to be educated enough to know what the
law is. And I can tell you that while some
people want to disparage my credibility and act as if
I don't know what I'm talking about, I can absolutely
guarantee to you that if you google War an Authority

(27:42):
and Constitution, you're gonna see Congress and this thing that
is like on my chest tells you that I am
a member of Congress and the biggest problem that we
face right now is that we have an administration that
does not care about making sure that they abide by rules,
are bye by the law.

Speaker 1 (28:02):
Oh, I would say to Congresswim Crockett is google bombs,
War and Obama, because what she'd find on that Google
search is that he, the President Obama, authorized and drop
bombs in Libyan to twenty eleven, Pakistan between two thousand
and nine and two twenty sixteen, Yemen between twenty nine
and twenty sixteen, Somalia between twenty nine and twenty sixteen,

(28:26):
and Iraq and Syria between twenty fourteen and twenty sixteen,
so if it's as illegal as she's saying, she's not,
I think there's some selective logic, some selective outrage going on.
And could you imagine after now that we know there's
this potential ceasefire going on, what that nightmare Congress for
this precision strike would have taken in terms of leaks

(28:47):
knowledge of it. Who would knowing what was coming? I mean,
they don't have the skills set to pass a simple budget.
They they don't have the skill set. They get a
lot of basic constitutional duties done, separate and equal powers.
You're going to tell me that you're going to that
you have to be the decision maker on that strike.
I think that strike is forging peace in real time
as we speak here on the program. So I think

(29:09):
there's a lot. So there's that, there's a lot more.
I've got a great quote from our or a great
clip from Vice President Jade Vance and speaking about this
moments after it was learned from the public that it
had happened. A good it's a good statement from him.
And we're going to go to you and the callers.
I want to hear from you, our listeners, about what
you think of all this. Eight eight eight five seven

(29:30):
zero eight zero one zero. When we come back from
the break, we're going to stay on this issue. A
lot to talk about, a lot to unpack. So stay tuned.
You're listening to Utah's Talk Radio one oh five nine
day n RS. So we've been talking about this, just

(29:52):
about it all. Every time I want to put a
stake in the ground, the world moves, the circumstances changed.
I had so much about you know, the criticism of
us being this bombing and all the risk and all that,
and now we're talking about the ceasefire. And E Ray
pointed out during the commercial break, kind of funny, they're
in the midst of some missions at the moment, so
they're giving them time to finish to you know, throwing

(30:13):
missiles at each other, destroying each other, whatever it is
they're these crazy kids are doing. They got to finish that.
And then there's a six hour ceasefire that I Ran
has to show in good faith. And then in twelve hours,
so six hours after I Ran does you know, performs
at ceasefire by not doing anything, then Israel will join

(30:34):
and in twenty four hours we will have what President
Trump is calling THEO what the fourteen Day War, twelve
day War. I guess it was by any way, So
we'll see. I'm gonna go to the phones. I want
to talk to you. Eight eight eight five seven zero
eight zero one zero. I'd like to know what you
think about all this. I want to play right before
we do that, though, I want to play this quick

(30:54):
clip from Vice President jad Vance and talking about what
I ran and was staring at us, their regime was
staring at if they did not come to a piece,
a ceasefire and a peaceful resolution to all this. Here
he goes, maybe not, let's see. Nope, I don't have it.

Speaker 2 (31:18):
Okay.

Speaker 1 (31:19):
I thought I had it, but it doesn't look like
I have it. Okay, let's go to the call. Let's
go to Tom in Cottonwood Heights. Caught Tom, thank you
for thank you for holding. Welcome to the Rod and
Greg show. A.

Speaker 2 (31:30):
Mister, are you there, Tom?

Speaker 10 (31:35):
Mister, yes, Tom.

Speaker 1 (31:40):
Okay, let's put Tom on hold. He had I thought
he's got a good take. If you would like to
talk about this. I don't know why my buttons aren't working.

Speaker 2 (31:47):
I had that.

Speaker 1 (31:47):
I thought I had that down, man, I'll tell you,
I really did. I thought, I you know, I've been
on this NASA like board now all week. I really
thought I had this thing going. But what what what
I think Vice President Jade Vans is saying.

Speaker 11 (32:01):
If Iran is desperate to build a nuclear weapon in
the future, then they're going to have to deal with
a very, very powerful American military.

Speaker 2 (32:09):
Again.

Speaker 11 (32:09):
Our hope is that the lesson that the Iranians have
learned here is, look, we could fly a bunker buster
bomb from Missouri to Iran, completely undetected, without landing once
on the ground, and we can destroy whatever nuclear capacity
you build up. I think that lesson is what's going
to teach them not to rebuild their nuclear capacity.

Speaker 7 (32:28):
Yep.

Speaker 1 (32:29):
So there you go, and I couldn't agree more. I
think peace through strength is what we're watching and witnessing
in real time. So now let's go to Let's now
go to Tom, who's been patiently waiting. Tom, welcome to
the Rod and Greg Show. Are you there?

Speaker 3 (32:45):
Yes, Greg, I am.

Speaker 1 (32:47):
Welcome to the show. I think it is on my end, Tom,
I apologize. What's your take on all this?

Speaker 7 (32:54):
I believe that if he had informed Congress that there
would have been a leak and that could have jeopardized
the mission.

Speaker 1 (33:02):
Yes, I couldn't agree with you more. I think that.
And I'll tell you this. We're gonna get we have
a clip we're gonna play where I heard over the
weekend and before you got a chance for Carolyn Levett,
the you know, the Trump's press secretary, to kind of
talk to the media about this. But CNN was reporting
that the Trump administration had launched this this strike on

(33:25):
Iran without informing Democrat congressional leaders. That Republican Congression leaders
have been told, but not the Democrat congressional leaders. But
that turns out to not actually be the case. In fact,
I'll just go to that right now. I'm gonna this
is Carolyn Levitt talking about whether or not the Congression
Democrat congressional leaders were informed by the administration before they

(33:48):
decided to bomb i Ran.

Speaker 12 (33:51):
We did make bipartisan calls Thomas Massey and the Democrats.
He should be a Democrat because he's more aligned with
them than with the Republican Party. We're given notice the
White House made calls to congressional leadership. They were bipartisan calls.
In fact, to Keim Draffres couldn't be reached. We tried
him before the strike, and he didn't pick up the phone,
but he was briefed after as well as Chuck Schumer

(34:13):
was briefed prior to the strike. So this notion that
CNN ran with at the White House did not give
a heads up to Democrats is just completely false. In fact,
both Senator Schumer's office and CNN had to retract that
story last night because it was a blatant lie, and
we showed them the timestamps from those phone calls. But
I want to add something to Thomas Massey's false points.

(34:33):
The White House was not obligated to call anyone because
the President was acting within his legal authority under Article
two of the Constitution as commander in chief of the
President of the United States. We gave these calls as
a courtesy. And the Democrats are lying about this because
they can't talk about the truth of the success of
that operation and the success of our United States military,

(34:53):
and the success of this president and this administration in
doing something that past administration's Democrats too have only drew about.

Speaker 1 (35:01):
Well said, well said, and really aligns perfectly with our caller.
Tom Tom called it if you first off any broader
any Chuck Schumer apparently knew a keem Jeffries doesn't know
how to answer the phone. Okay, so there you go.
That's that shows you profiles of courage and leadership right there.
It wasn't leaked, and at least hats off to Schumer

(35:22):
that he didn't leak it. They were complaining. I'd love
to know. I haven't seen yet what the posture is
of the Democrats with the ceasefire announced. They have been
criticizing and attacking this, you know, this bombing of Iran
over the weekend, just NonStop. They've been on the twenty
percent of this issue I think the whole time, with

(35:42):
the idea and pointing to well, there's going to be violence, now,
there's going to be terrorist attacks, and this is all
going to be Trump's fault. Well, the announced ceasefire not
to say we're in the clear. I would never trust
Iran on anything. I think it's more than a trust,
but verify. It's don't trust and keep verifying when it
comes to Iran. But right now, I think Iran understands

(36:02):
its place in the world and it's not a good one.
And I think they're trying to do whatever they can
to preserve their government. And we don't want to build
a new one. So if they're going to settle down,
that's great, especially if we are confident that we have
taken their nuclear research, you know, the enriching of uranium,
all the efforts they've been doing, If we've taken that
back twenty years, if they we've wiped out their scientists

(36:24):
and all of those, I think we're in I think
we're in a pretty good spot. Let me play this
for you. I think this is an important one. The
when we keep hearing, because we do hear it a lot,
that the the Democrats are complaining, complaining and complaining that,
you know, this is something that we shouldn't do. They
cannot be anywhere but against Donald Trump on any issue,

(36:46):
no matter how intuitive, or no matter how long their
own party or their own leaders have actually expressed the
same exact sentiment. Have a listen here, and his.

Speaker 3 (36:56):
Face is clear.

Speaker 11 (36:58):
We will not allow wow a Ram to acquire a
nuclear weapon.

Speaker 13 (37:02):
I'm the president.

Speaker 14 (37:04):
We will attack Iran whatever stage of development they might
be in their nuclear weapons program in the next ten years,
during which they might foolishly consider launching an attack on Israel.
We would be able to totally obliterate them. That's a
terrible thing to say that those people who run Iran
need to understand.

Speaker 15 (37:24):
That it make no mistake. A nuclear armed Iran is
not a challenge that can be contained. It would threaten
the elimination of Israel, the security of Gulf nations, and
the stability of the global economy at risks triggering a
nuclear arms race in the region, and the unraveling of
the Non Proliferation Treaty. That's why a coalition of countries

(37:46):
is holding the Iranian government accountable, and that's why the
United States will do what we must to prevent Iran
from obtaining a nuclear weapon.

Speaker 1 (37:55):
Now, I want you to think real quickly where we
sit today. There's a high level of confidence in his
in the United States, and we've heard it from Vice
President Jade Vance that we've actually been heard it from
the military that we have wiped out their nuclear capabilities.
What they were doing sixty percent enriched uranium. You're only
after weapons when you do that, you're intercontinental ballistic missiles rockets.

(38:18):
They're not looking to go into space. They're looking for
missiles they can travel from continent to continent. All these
were red flags, all identified, all destroyed. Now I want
to go back to nineteen ninety four. In October eighteenth
of nineteen ninety four, President Bill Clinton he announced this
landmark deal because this is the stage where North Korea
was looking like it was on the verge or looking

(38:39):
to become a nuclear country, have nuclear bombs. And the
approach that Bill Clinton took is, hey, let's hug it out,
let's work it out. Let's have an announcement of a
landmark nuclear agreement. We're going to send you oil, We're
going to send you nuclear reactors, but they're for power,
they're not for weapons. We're going to do all of
these things, and you're going to swear and you're going
to promise that you're going to stop. You're going to

(39:01):
quit trying to enrich uranium and try to acquire a
nuclear bomb. Well, we know history showed that Korea continued
producing uranium during the time of this. After this agreement
was signed in October of ninety four, they used it
will be we're going to be a nuclear power. If
you don't send us oil, if you don't send us resources,
we're going to do this. They used it as a

(39:22):
bargaining chip. They had no intention of stopping their nuclear program.
They ignored all the warnings that you know, they were
supposed to be inspections. They're not happening. You know, the
United States said, hey, you're going to get on the
wrong side of this. They didn't care. You know why
they didn't care, folks, because they were getting they were
putting a bomb together. They ultimately said in twenty two
thousand and three, we're done with that Non Nuclear Proliferation Treaty.

(39:46):
We're dropping out. And in two thousand and six they
conducted their first underground nuclear bomb test, and they are
in They have nukes now. So you take that nineteen
ninety four to two thousand and six experience of doing
it through treaties and pinky swears versus the way that
Donald Trump and Israel handled Iran in the last number

(40:06):
of days. I think we've seen leadership in action. Okay,
we come back. We're going to come back and talk
more about this again. What do you think. Do you
think that we're through it? Do you think we're in
the middle of it? Do you think what's happened is good?
Love to hear from you here on the program. Eight
eight eight five seven zero eight zero one zero is
the number to call back after this break. You're listening

(40:27):
to Utah's Talk Radio one oh five nine Cannorus. We've
been talking about in real time. You know, we had
over the weekend. We thought there was two weeks of
negotiations potentially turned out there was not even two days.
There was a strike by the United States. These these
bombers took off from the heartland of America and flew
what thirty hours they flew, They got refueled in the air,

(40:48):
never landed, did their mission, even sent decoys to confuse
and then we're able to land back in the United
States safely having completed their mission. And then before we
could really talk about that and how mad the Democrats
are about all of it, we get announced at the
beginning of the show from the President is that there
is an announced ceasefire. It's not right now, it's going

(41:09):
to take about twenty four hours to roll out, but
if it does, it looks like things are much safer
in the world than they were this time yesterday, which
is amazing to think about. What do you have to
say about this, folks, What do you think is happening
in right now? Do you think it's good? Is it positive?
You are you worried. I think we're still in the

(41:30):
event to some aspect or to some extent. So the
number to call if you'd like to opine is eight
eight eight five seven zero eight zero one zero. Love
to hear from you, and let's go right now to
Zaye in Ogden, Zaine. Welcome to the Rotting Greg Show.
What do you think about the circumstances going on around
the world right now? We live in crazy times?

Speaker 8 (41:51):
Huh yeah, definitely crazy times. Two things, So the first
thing go with the veggies.

Speaker 2 (41:58):
First.

Speaker 8 (41:59):
In Trump's first presidency, he pulled out of a treaty
of so I can't remember what it's called, where Iran
was not to have weapons grade uranium and they were
constantly under check. They had all of their facilities, had cameras,
recordings and everything like that. And they while they grumbled

(42:22):
and griped about a couple of surprise inspections, they were
compliant and no weapons scritt Nothing over three point six
seven percent uranium was ever found, and that was the
grade that they were permitted. I feel like we shouldn't
have pulled out of that treaty, even though it was

(42:42):
only good for ten to fifteen years. I feel like
we should have stayed with it until after and then
kept a close eye on them, But they did in
the Obama administration, they started doing the work on building
that bunker buster that we launched on them. So I

(43:03):
am all for launching that. I think what Trump did
was amazing and I wouldn't change anything about it.

Speaker 1 (43:10):
Sane, you bring up a good point, because I didn't.
I don't remember the Iran agreement the way you just
shared it, and I'm not saying the way you shared
it is inaccurate. I thought that the big rub was
we were sending palettes of cash to that country, that
we were funding them and in ordinate ways, and that
we weren't sure that they were adhering to the agreement

(43:31):
because because to your point, if it was abandoned in
twenty eighteen, could they get to as advanced as they
are in twenty twenty five from the time that Trump
ended that agreement till now? I just a couple things
to think of. I don't have any answers, but I'm
just curious of your take.

Speaker 8 (43:46):
Oh yeah, so the money that we sent them was
to them get uranium, which not k of, but it
was low grade uranium to get An they had to
get rid of over I think it was fifteen hundreds,
which is what they used to increase the potency of

(44:08):
the uranium to bring it up to a higher grade.
But they were under constant Most of their facilities had
people from the agency that was sent there to inspect
their uranium that were full time staffed there, constantly doing
checks and they were never out of compliance. But the

(44:31):
deal was only going to last ten to fifteen years,
and then they were we were supposed to leave them,
leave them alone, and it was just so that they
could get nuclear power sites up and running and have
stable nuclear power to power their country.

Speaker 16 (44:50):
Zang.

Speaker 1 (44:50):
A lot of details, A lot of details I didn't know.
Thank you for calling. Appreciate the appreciate the info. The
deats as they as the kids like to say, Let's
go to gym in Salt Lake City. Jim, welcome to
the program. What do you think about what's going on
right now the state of the world as we see
a potential ceasefire, Yeah, seasfire between Israel and Iran.

Speaker 2 (45:15):
Thanks so much for taking my call. It's interesting. It
took us twenty five minutes to basically wipe out everything
that Iran had been doing for the past what twenty
five to thirty years, and so they finally came to
the table and said, hey, okay, let's not but you

(45:42):
can't reason with these people. You have to go in
and you have to blow up everything that they've got
until they submit. They will not negotiate. If they get
into a negotiation, it's a lie. And what's interesting is
every single Democrat was against this, except for they're kind

(46:05):
of crazy. Guy John Fetterman, I know the stroke victim.

Speaker 1 (46:10):
He's the only guy thinking clear.

Speaker 2 (46:13):
He's the only guy that would say, yeah, this is
the right thing. I don't know why people listen to Democrats.
The Democrats have been on the wrong side of history
on everything. You cannot say anything that they have done
that has made this world better.

Speaker 3 (46:34):
You're here, and it just drives me.

Speaker 2 (46:37):
Crazy that people will defend them. And Trump. Trump has
been a godsend to our country to be able to
just handle these things and make our world a safer
place rather than patronize and just do the stupid things

(46:58):
that all the Democrats.

Speaker 1 (46:59):
Normally here here here, Jim, thank you for the call.
I'm going to play that Fetterman comment because he is
he might be the only guy on Capitol Hill that's
a Democrat elected that is seeing things clear.

Speaker 17 (47:09):
Here's what's going to be a lot of people in
my party. They're going to disagree with the strike with
and Iran, and I actually support that. I've been always
calling for that thing. I think it was entirely appropriate.
And again there might be votes on that. So for me,
that's not a war. That was a very limited military
exercise and it struck that and then that's where we're at.

Speaker 8 (47:31):
So so really it really.

Speaker 17 (47:32):
Wasn't about unst the consecutional or it's anything like that.
It was like a very very limited military engagement and
then it took them out, damaged them severely.

Speaker 1 (47:45):
And you said that before the ceasefire was announced. So
I think he's on the right side of history. Old
Senator Fetnerman can't believe I'm saying that out loud. Okay, folks,
we're gonna have a lot more to talk about when
we come back from the break. You're listening to Utah's
Talk Radio one oh five to nine Cannorus. Great discussion.
I was thinking over the over the break. I love
what Zaane talked about. He gave some details about the
Iranian deal that that Trump got out of in his

(48:06):
first term. I remember them, you know, I ran being
flushed with cash because we were we were dropping a
lot of sanctions. People were arguing that they were using
that money for terror and attacking. But but I I
looked it up over the week over during the commercial,
and he was right that they that they work. It
looked like, by all appearances, complying with the requirements of

(48:28):
not becoming nuclear or using nuclear for issues of like
I don't know, energy or something like that. My well,
the only thing that I would say is that the
money that they were getting it did. It does seem
that the hohu thies hamas you name it, they were
there were sponsors of terrorism and uh. And then if
you have such an oil rich nation, why do you
need nuclear at all? Honestly, you don't because you have

(48:50):
power sources or energy generation sources that are as much
as you ever need. And I would so it gives
me a little bit of a jaundiced eye about why
they would want even for purposes of power, they would
need nuclear capability. But I get it all. But I
just like this version better. I just love it. I
want to play a clip for you, Margaret Brennan, you

(49:12):
can you love? I don't really care Margaret Brennan from JD.
Van's fame, but she is trying. She comes loaded for
Baron comes right after Secretary of Secretary of State Marco
Rubio this weekend, asking for if he has seen any
intelligence that says and declares that Iran is going to

(49:34):
use nuclear it's nuclear power enrichment for weapons or bombs,
if you've seen any kind of documentation that says as much,
this is what, this is how his South the exchange went.

Speaker 18 (49:47):
Anyway, Are you saying there that the United States did
not see intelligence that the Supreme Leader had ordered weaponization?

Speaker 2 (50:00):
Relevant?

Speaker 13 (50:00):
I seek that question being asked in the media. That's
an irrelevant question.

Speaker 18 (50:03):
They had met in US intelligence assessment. You know it's not, yes,
it was.

Speaker 13 (50:07):
That's the political Well I know that better than you
know that, and I know that that's not the case.

Speaker 18 (50:12):
But I'm asking whether the order was given.

Speaker 13 (50:14):
And the people who say that it doesn't matter if
the order was given, they have everything they need to
build nuclear weapons. Why would you bury Why would you
bury things in a mountain three hundred feet under the ground,
Why would you bury six Why do they have sixty
percent in rich uranium? You don't need sixty percent in
rich area. The only countries in the world that have
uranium at sixty percent are countries that have nuclear weapons,
because it can quickly make it ninety. They have all

(50:36):
the elements they have. Why are they Why do they
have a space program? Is Aron going to go to
the moon? No, they're trying to build an ICBM.

Speaker 7 (50:41):
No.

Speaker 18 (50:41):
But that's that's a question. That's a question of intent.
And you know in the intelligence assessment that it was
that Iran wanted to be a threshold.

Speaker 10 (50:49):
See you use those I'm.

Speaker 18 (50:51):
Talking about what the intelligence March assessment. And that's why
I was asking you if you know something more from it.

Speaker 13 (50:56):
That's an inaccurate representation of it. That's an accurate rep
presentation of it. That's not how intelligence is read. That's
not how intelligence is used. Here's what the whole world knows.
Forget about intelligence, what the IAEA knows. They are enriching
uranium well beyond anything you need for a civil nuclear program.
So why would you enrich uranium at sixty percent if

(51:18):
you don't intend to one day use it to take
it to ninety and build a weapon. Why are you
developing ICBMs. Why do you have eight thousand short range
missiles in two to three thousand long mid range missiles
that you continue to develop. Why do you do all
these things and have everything they need for.

Speaker 3 (51:33):
A nuclear weapon.

Speaker 13 (51:34):
They have the delivery mechanisms, they have the enrichment capability,
they have the highly enriched uranium that is stored.

Speaker 4 (51:39):
That's all we need to see, right well.

Speaker 1 (51:41):
And she so, you know, she slowed her role pretty
quick after she said, because I'll tell you again, going
back to history, North Korea didn't run some didn't write
some declaration or we're going to use our nuclear capability
for weapons before we found out that they had nuclear bombs.
And so the whole premise of that question I thought
was ridiculous. And I was proud to see you, Mark,

(52:03):
Secretary of State Rubio call her out on it so articulately.
I thought it was a great case made. Let's go
to our callers. I love hearing from you. Let's go
to Rick in Pleasant Grove. Rick, thank you for holding.
Welcome to the Ron and Greg Show.

Speaker 2 (52:19):
Thanks.

Speaker 10 (52:19):
I just wanted to say I think there needs to
be some sort of verification if I was an Iran side.
If I was a strategist, if I knew I was
up against the United States, and I could talk them
into the idea that everything is in just three places
that we might have planned ahead for some other things.
There's small man pac nuclear weapons and things that we

(52:39):
should be concerned about. And I don't want to send
Putin or the Chinese or anybody else in there. I
want to send Americans in there as part of this
wrap up to say that we've put eyes on and
looked around and found that there's nothing that we hadn't
accounted for.

Speaker 1 (52:54):
Great great observation. Rick and I have the same concerns
that you do. It's not trust but verify. It's do
not trust them and verify everything you know, measure one
hundred times before you cut once. When it comes to Iran,
I agree, you know, there's we have these organizations that
do monitor these things, and usually these treaties include these

(53:15):
international groups that are on the ground and get to
monitor them. But I think, and I believe Trump smart
enough that we're going to make sure that that the
that their capability has been shut down. And I, by
the way, Israel's pretty good, Masaud is pretty good. At
finding out what Iran's doing. And I think they're pretty
good having eyes on the ground in Iran as well.

(53:35):
But uh, we get But we have to do is
we have to do all those things that you just shared.
We got a talkback message. I don't have it on
my NASA like screen. So I'm gonna go to E
ray Erie play that this is going to be a
surprise to me because I haven't heard it. So go
ahead and play.

Speaker 16 (53:50):
Sis and Hughes back of World War Two. General Patton
would say that he was ready to take.

Speaker 3 (53:58):
On the Bolsheviks.

Speaker 16 (53:59):
He was in a place at the right time, had
the army to do it. I feel like right now
with Iran, this is the time to end the regime
that hates us.

Speaker 1 (54:12):
Yeah, that's you know. And I understand what he's saying.
I really do. I don't want to get into I personally,
this is me talking. I saw the attempt to replace
the Taliban in Afghanistan. It didn't work out well for
US as a country. I saw us try to replace
the government of Saddamusan in Iraq didn't work out. Not

(54:33):
that I wanted the Taliban running things or Saddam Usan
running things, but it doesn't look like we're very good
at nation building. It doesn't look like the way we
approach it works at all. I don't I would much
rather see the people rise up and hopefully this is
a weakened regime. No matter what Reuters is now confirming,
Iranian officials confirmed themselves that they have accepted a ceasefire deal.

(54:53):
So it looks like it's coming in from different sources
now that this is a peace deal. But I tend
to agree. I hope that the people can rise up
and remove this tyrannical regime. We're going to talk about
this more when we come back. You're listening to Can
You tell Us Talk Radio? One oh five nine canters
buried in a mountain, mountain deep. It's like it was

(55:13):
truly like the Maverick movie, but much easier with the
bombers than having to fly below the you know, the
surface to air missiles in the valley, like like Tom
Cruise or Maverick had to do. And but very much
like that in terms of the bunker Busters. And then
they turn around, they come back. They never they're refueling
in the air, they never land. They come back, they

(55:34):
land people. I saw that. I don't know if any
of you saw it, but I saw the videos of
people of the of the planes landing, and there was
a saying, if you see the bomber, you're not gonna
get bombed by the bomber by the plane if you
can see it. So an incredible successful mission and a
lot of talk about what was going to happen, what

(55:54):
was going to be the consequence to it all, and
and what we're seeing. As the show began, there was
an announcement of a ceasefire. I think we have to
be very careful. Colors of our listeners have called in
and said, you know, we've got to make sure it's real.
I agree. I think that this has been a win.
I think President Trump has proven his critics wrong yet again.

(56:15):
I think that doing it this way versus the distortured
agreements and inspections and lifting of sanctions and whatever we've
lived through with North Korea and with Iran, I think
that we're seeing a much more efficient and safer way
to do it right now. Some one of our listeners

(56:36):
just sent in a message, and it's absolutely true. More
Americans died in Biden's withdrawal from Afghanistan than in Trump's
air quote war in Iran, and I think that's something
worth noting as well, is that, you know, we didn't
have any troops. We didn't see any of this just
withdrawing from Afghanistan. It was a terrible took a terrible

(56:56):
toll on our men and women in the military, and
was very It wasn't successful. What we left behind was
an embarrassment. I think this country lost so much stature
during the Biden administration, and I think it's coming back.

Speaker 2 (57:09):
Baby.

Speaker 1 (57:09):
I think we're coming back, and I'm pretty happy about it. Look,
when we come back on the next hour, we're going
to speak with Daniel Turner. He's the founder executive director
of Power of the Future. Iran was trying to was
entertaining the concept of closing a critical supply chain, the
Strait of horror Uz or Hormuzz. I don't know how

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you say it, but it is an important route getting
oil gas throughout the world, and Iran was because of
the bombing, wanted to entertain the idea of shutting that
down and maybe starving out some people of oil. I
said at the beginning of the show. One of the
biggest critics of that was one of their so called
allies China who publicly said you better not do it.

(57:53):
And I think maybe that helped bring them to the
ceasefire agreement, as China was getting irritated by Iran as well.
But we're going to talk to Daniel about what it
means to be to be vulnerable as a country with
that straight that supply chain or channel being closed down.
What would that have meant to the United States? Would

(58:13):
it have put us in a vulnerable place? Would it
have harmed us? If so, what should we be doing
as a country to be energy independent to not be
subject to those types of decisions where it would harm
us here in America. And by the way, I'm looking
at the oil prices, nobody can believe that oil is
dropping by barrel in terms of its prices of commodity

(58:34):
after the bombing of Iran, before the announcement of the ceasefire.
It is time right now with oil or crude oil
lower than seventy dollars a barrel, I hope we're refilling
our national reserve, our the reserve that Trump had topped
off and had it completely full, and that Biden had
completely emptied, emptied in his time in office. That now

(58:56):
is the time to just reserve, put it all back in,
get that, get us up and prepared and ready. It
is that window I think to do that, and I
think it didn't happen by accident. O. Hey, folks, when
we come back, Daniel Turner, we're going to talk about
oil independence, what it means. You're listening to talk radio
one oh five nine pan rs. We've been talking about

(59:23):
the weekend, the bombing, the response, the Democrats response, and
then before the show, right before the show began, or
just I would say, two minutes after we began the show,
President Trump announced that there has been a ceasefire. Reuters
is now confirmed from Iranian sources that they have agreed
to a ceasefire. It looks like, you know, the news

(59:43):
is happening in real time. Joining us because there is
a wrinkle to all this, and that is at some
point Iran was looking to create a choke point and
on oil and how we get oil and how it
would how countries would be impacted by that. This was
looking to be like a response. Looks like it's not
right now, but the issue still is just as critical.

(01:00:03):
Joining us on the program is Daniel Turner. He is
the founder executive director of Power of the Future, Daniel,
thank you for joining us on the program.

Speaker 3 (01:00:12):
Oh, it's always great to be back. Thanks for having me.

Speaker 1 (01:00:15):
So here's here's I've got a few questions. But first off,
straight of horror moves, horrormone, how do you say it?
How do you say this straight horror moves? So Iran
wanted to create a choke point. It's a it's a
critical supply chain. Even China came out today and told
them to back off on this straight Tell me.

Speaker 2 (01:00:35):
What does it?

Speaker 1 (01:00:35):
What? What does that mean to the world in terms
of uh supply chains and how vulnerable we may be
because an ally to Iran like China was even saying,
don't do it. How how crazy is that that we're
dependent on us on the straight of horror moves the
way we are or the way the world.

Speaker 2 (01:00:51):
May be think it.

Speaker 3 (01:00:53):
How remarkable is it that President Trump is able to
get China to do his foreign policy bit for him.
Of Iran's oil is sold to China, And so when
Iran made that announcement like we're closed in the straits,
China was like, yeah, no, you're not, because China's the
weakest point in terms of energy is they have no
domestic oil supply. All of their oil is imported, and

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so they are desperate for oil from the Middle East
and they buy it from places mostly like Iran, where
most of the world used to have sanctions. Of course,
Biden lifted the sanctions. So yeah, the president really got
a lot of actors involved, and Iran was genuinely isolated.

Speaker 2 (01:01:35):
You know.

Speaker 3 (01:01:35):
I go back to that famous quote from George W.
Bush Bush where he said people have to stop misunderestimating me.
I think people need to stop misunderestimating President Trump. Right.
He said, We're going to have tariffs, and all the
experts said inflation is going to go through the roof
and wages are going to get slashed, and wages went
up and inflation dropped. They said after this attack, like

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oil is going to be one hundred and thirty and
the world's going to go to war, and now it's
already over. So you can say what you want about
the guy, but when he delivers on something, he does
it with more agility and decisiveness than anyone I've ever
seen in my lifetime. And I'm fifty so I've been
following politics for some.

Speaker 1 (01:02:14):
Time me too, and I agree with every word you said,
I want to get to our oil reserves and what
the opportunity that we have now. But before I do
because you mentioned it, oil prices before there was an
announced ceasefire, oil prices and after the bombing I'm reading
went down seven and a half percent. Crew oil went
down set the price of a barrel of crew went
down after this happened. How do you connect those dots

(01:02:37):
that to me, it's just I don't understand what I'm
looking at.

Speaker 3 (01:02:42):
Yeah, and ten years ago, five years ago, this seems
a scenario people would have said that's it. Oil is
one hundred and thirty. I woke up this morning with
people saying we anticipate oil to hit hundreds, one hundred
and twenty by the end of the week. And then
oil prices dropped, And I think the reason is when
you look at the resiliency now of our energy industry

(01:03:04):
and are what President Trump has done. You know, Adam
Smith used to talk about the invisible hand, and it
is these forces that are at work in the economy
that are not centrally controlled, that are not planned, they're
not state run. And one of these forces are market
forces where markets under Biden said the future is awful. Right.

(01:03:27):
We may be producing a lot of oil, but the
future is awful because of multiple factors. We're not allowing permitting,
there's no leases going on. He's taken off Alaska and
the Outer Continental Shelf. He's punished financing. So even though
we had record oil production under Biden, which we did,
and Kamala Harris talked about in the campaign, that invisible

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hand said, yeah, oil is still ninety dollars a barrow.
Look at the exact same oil industry. Now under President Trump,
we're producing roughly the same amount of oil. But oil
dropped down to fifty seven. It rose a little bit,
but now it's back down to the mid sixties. And
the reason why is again, this invisible hand sees all
of these forces and says we're going to produce more.

(01:04:10):
There's pipelines being built, there's permanence being given, there's lending
allowed to happen. Doesn't matter what Iran does, doesn't matter
about straight or hormost. We are confident in the future
of American energy. So oil prices didn't spike. That's the
difference of energy policy from one administration to the next.

Speaker 1 (01:04:28):
You know, Daniel, throughout the campaign. You know, when people
were suffering from high inflation, high groceries, high gas prices.
President Trump would lead with this as a candidate every
single time these issues came up, and then Jade Vance
once he was on a ticket, he would say the
same thing, and that is, we have to bring energy
prices down. When you see that this is going to
have this broader effect, my question, and I think we're

(01:04:52):
we're seeing that happen, But my question is when Biden,
and this gets to kind of what you're saying about
our energy independence a little hand works. When we're seeing
all of this work and we're seeing the prices of
energy coming down, it would be the time to put
our reserves back and tip them off, you know, top
them off as they were before. But I heard that

(01:05:12):
when Biden emptied them, he might have even damaged the pumps.
He took so much so fast from those reserves that
we typically have. What is the state of our reserves
as a country, and how important is it that we
get those back topped off and fully restored the Biden
had emptied down.

Speaker 3 (01:05:32):
That's a great point, and I'm genuinely honored that you're
bringing it to your attentions your audience's attention, because it's
not one of the points that most people talk about.
And anyone who works in as systems, whether it's piping
plumbers or electric systems or they know that when you
reduce the volume of what is flowing through that system

(01:05:53):
precipitously that there can be damage to pumps. There can
be damaged to right. You can't just shut off the
water and have the pump still right, because the pumps
will burn out. And what you're you're mentioning has been
a lot of reports that said, when Biden drained five
hundred million barrels of oil in a matter of weeks
back in twenty twenty two, Yeah, and he did it
to save the Senate, right, and it worked. I will

(01:06:14):
give him credit for that. It was it was unpatriotic,
It compromised America's national security, It made us weaker, but
it saved him the Senate. And if that was your goal,
you know, political strategy, kudos. You know, I like the
things that winning wouldn't have me compromise my values. But

(01:06:36):
Biden clearly didn't say that, and so he won this.
He took that talking point away from the Senate races
that no one could say, well, look at oil prices.
Oil prices dropped because Biden. Biden crippled America's energy industry
to make them drop. Yeah, so the reserves are in
bad shape and we're still around five hundred million barrels

(01:06:56):
a day. Now, people say, why doesn't President Trump drained them?
I'm sorry fill them. Yes, but if he put five
hundred thousand barrels a day aside, that's an enormous percentage
of how much oil we consume. We consume around nineteen
million barrels, but still five hundred thousand barrels and we
drained five hundred million. That's going to take a lot
of time to refill that. And those reserves are there

(01:07:20):
for that black swan event, whether it's a hurricane, whether
it's tensions in the Middle East. We don't know what
the future is going to bring, so we have those
reserves as a little bit of security. We don't have
them right now, thank god there's a cease fire, because
if things got bad, we don't have those reserves to
fall back on thanks to Biden.

Speaker 1 (01:07:41):
So last question, I'm coming up on a break a
time horizon. How long does it take to get us
where we were when he had had those reserves full.
How long is it going to take? Because you're right,
you can't just do it all at once. What do
you think that looks like?

Speaker 3 (01:07:54):
I think if they are aggressive and we start producing
more oil, it will take at least a year and
a half. Right, you can't buy too much oil because
that will cut into the demand. That will increase demand.
Supply is pretty constant, and that's going to rise, make
prices rise. So you have to do it in such
a way that is so slow that it doesn't affect

(01:08:15):
the overall cost of the American people. Again, Biden put
us in an enormous pickle, and his legacy will live on.
Remember he lifted sanctions on Iran his very first day
in office. Iran attacked Israel, Iran funded Hamas and Hezbollah.
Iran increase their nuclear production. Energy is everything. Energy policy
is everything. It's not just the cost of gas. It's geopolitics,

(01:08:39):
it's world peace. And Biden did so much damage to
the world and to America because it has bad energy policies.
It's going to take a lot to undo it. But
if anyone can, it's this administration.

Speaker 1 (01:08:50):
I agree. Daniel Turner, Founder Executive director of Power the Future. Boy,
you're pushing out some important information. Thank you for joining
us on the show today.

Speaker 3 (01:08:58):
Always a pleasure, Thanks for having me back.

Speaker 1 (01:09:00):
Thanks. It was Daniel Turner again, executive director, founder of
Power of the Future, talking about energy and energy is everything.
It's it's all that we're doing. So glad to get
that take. We're gonna get take a break and we
come back lots more to talk about. It's a wild
day today here on the Rotten Greg Show. And you're
listening to Utah's Talk Radio one oh five nine. Can
rass Rod's been on vacation. You know, handled it last week,

(01:09:23):
you know, with this NASA like board flying the jet
fighter all by myself here goose at the helm, not Maverick.
But we've had a great week, and then we had
the weekend, and what were we going to talk about
on Monday? Well, not only did was there a lot
lot to talk about that happened over the weekend that
but right way as the show began at four o'clock.

(01:09:44):
Two minutes after the show began at four o'clock, President
Trump released a statement that there had been an agreed
upon ceasefire between Israel and I ran We've been talking
about all of the details things that happened over the weekend,
as well as the critics from the Democrats. Somehow they
think that even these precision strikes should have been decided
by Congress. Good luck with that. They can't. They're having

(01:10:06):
a very difficult time, you know, getting budgets doing the
things that the Constitution contemplates they're going to do. I
think there's a lot of people that are Democrats that
would have let Iran know what we're going to do.
We've had colors make, you know, obvious observations like that
and pointed out that's not controversial to say because it's
sadly true. Anyway, we pointed out that Obama never sought

(01:10:32):
congressional authorization to do the bombings that he has done.
There have been these moments. They Democrats just hold President
Trump to a different standard, whether it's deportion, deportations, removals,
these strikes, precision strikes, and Iran to stop their nuclear capability.
They just have a completely different set of rules for
President Trump than they would ever apply to themselves on anything.

(01:10:54):
And this is why they keep getting painted in the
corner of a twenty percent issue where eighty percent of
them is on the other side. I don't know how.
I haven't seen I haven't had the I usually have
Fox News on in the studio when I'm on the air,
but I don't have it on right now. I can't
even imagine. And if you've heard it and want to
call in and let me know what you're hearing. How
are the Democrats going to frame this as a failure?

(01:11:16):
How are they going to frame the twelve day war
as a failure by this president?

Speaker 2 (01:11:20):
What is it?

Speaker 1 (01:11:20):
How are they going to do it? I don't know how,
but I'm sure they're going to find a way. But
I will tell you this. I think that we had
a great listener who messaged me and said, you know,
twelve day wars. That sounds faster than it takes Utah
to count ballots at the end of an election. I
think that might be true, and that's nothing to brag about.

(01:11:42):
So there's that I saw this. But because we've been
talking so much about Iran and Israel and the United
States and the ceasefire, I haven't had time to bring
it up, but I will now. Department of Poland Security
has announced Alligator Alcatraz. Have you heard this alligator Alcatraz.
It turns out that the Department of Homeland Security has

(01:12:05):
secured thirty nine square miles of land in Florida that
is completely surrounded by the Everglades. Okay, and it's a
temporary detention facility. They can get this thing built within
thirty to sixty days. It would have a thousand beds,
thousand plus beds. And one of the advantages of being

(01:12:26):
in the middle of the Everglades is that the perimeter
and its safety and people that if someone were to escape,
what would the surrounding community think about a thousand bed
one thousand plus bed temporary ice facility. Most people would
not be excited to see that arrive in their neighborhood.
We'll guess who's excited in the Everglades, Well, that would

(01:12:48):
be alligators and pythons. They're going to be really excited.
They're going to hope somebody wants to try and get
out of that place. Yes, folks, the area in Florida,
it has it is highly populated with alligators in pythons,
and so I think that the exterior perimeter will be
a deterrent in trying to escape, get away. It's not

(01:13:09):
bothering anybody, no nimbi's when it comes to alligators and pythons,
they're never showing up at a city council meeting to
tell you not to build something. They're they're all in.
They're just excited. They're just hoping that somebody wants to
fall their way and come in and become dinner form.
So I think this is another one of those examples
where it makes perfect sense. It's temporary in terms of

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you can get it up and running. It's not gonna
take it five years to build it in all the nonsense,
thirty to sixty days, get a thousand plus beds, have
a perimeter that's pretty inherently and naturally safe. And then
what the Democrats are gonna just They're gonna they lose
their minds. It's like that. It's it's like this president
his administration knows how to troll the Democrats because the

(01:13:52):
alligator Alcatraz, that's the name of this facility, is gonna
kill them. They're gonna hate it. They're going to go
out of their minds. So I think that's a I
think that's good news. I think it makes good sense,
But I also have to laugh at what it's going
to mean, to to the to the leftists that can't
stand Trump and everything he does. That's going to be
one that they're going to be just just clutching their

(01:14:14):
pearls upset about this facility in the middle of the Everglades.
But I think it's a smart idea. You know, when
we come back on we're going to interview Margo Cleveland.
We're going to talk about I thought we got past
this court in California with our National Guard, our Marines
that are in Los Angeles trying to protect our federal facilities,

(01:14:35):
our ice agents trying to you know, trying to enforce
the law. And it looks like even after their circuit
court or their appeals court stopped this this judge's decision
and then heard the case and kept the injunction in place,
he's entertaining putting yet another directive in that doesn't allow

(01:14:59):
for and Trump to direct the National Guard or the
Marines in Los Angeles. We're going to learn about that
from Margo Cleveland when we get back from the break.
She's the senior legal correspondent from the Federalist and it's
just it's I think these are details this is we
keep seeing. You see the tweets whenever we bombed Iran,
there's a federal court judge somewhere that's going to tell

(01:15:19):
us we have to rebuild it for Iran. You know
it's sarcastic, but honestly, it's almost not sarcastic with how
many the way they judge, judge shop and find people
that are trying to stop this president from limited jurisdictions
impacting this entire country. So we'll talk to Margo Cleveland
when we get back. She's from the Federalists. She's going
to walk us through what the latest high jinks are
in the courtrooms in California. And we're gonna also after

(01:15:43):
you hear this, after you hear from her, if you
do have a comment, we got that talkback line. Go
to the talkback line, hit the microphone with the red circle,
touch that and give us your thirty second take and
we will continue this discussion as we go through this
Monday here on Utah's Talk Radio one oh five nine. Canteris,
we'll get all the details on all of his travels.

(01:16:06):
So I'm flying solo today, but we've had a powerpack show.
We've been going over a lot of things that news
keeps breaking while we're in real time on the program.
The landscape, political landscape keeps changing. But I'm excited about
our next guest, Margo Cleveland. She's a senior legal correspondent
with The Federalist. I read, Marrow, thank you for joining
us on the program.

Speaker 19 (01:16:26):
Oh, thanks so much for having me.

Speaker 1 (01:16:27):
Okay, So I read this and I was kind of sad,
but I was really glad you came on the show
because honestly, I thought we showed this crazy judge of
the door. I thought his I thought his decisions had
been you know, halted temporarily, then you know, for longer,
and now it looks like, according to you, it looks
like he's trying to stare at yet another angle old
Judge Brier to try to thwart President Trump in directing

(01:16:52):
the National Guard, the Marines and trying to protect federal
agents while they enforced federal law and also federal facility.
Please share with our listeners the deats what's going on
there in crazy California.

Speaker 19 (01:17:06):
Sure, So, like you, I was really shocked by what
I heard and just came out in a hearing on Friday.
So Judge Brier was the judge who had basically ordered
the President of the United States to relinquish his control
over the California National Guard, give it back to Governor Newsom,

(01:17:30):
and that they could not be deployed in Los Angeles. That,
as you noted the Court of Appeals, so that the
Ninth Circuit, within I think it was two hours, entered
an administrative stay, saying, okay, your order doesn't go into
effect until we decide this appeal. They had argument last

(01:17:54):
week I think it was Tuesday and Thursday evening about
mid ten o'clock Eastern times, so about seven o'clock your time.
The Ninth Circuit, in a unanimous decision, so it was
all three judges, said no, Trump had a basis to

(01:18:16):
dispatch the National Guard, to federalize it, and that is
not something that you get to second guess. The Ninth
Circuit said, yes, you can look at it and see
if the conditions are met, but as long as the
President has a colorable basis for federalizing the troops and

(01:18:39):
deploying them, that's it. You can't go any further. So Friday,
the judge had already this is Judge Bryer had already
scheduled a hearing on a preliminary injunction motion and to
let's just kind of put a pin in it for
a moment to explain what this means. Is original Newsome

(01:19:01):
asks for a tierro, which is a temporary restraining order
that only can last fourteen days. The next step is
to ask for a preliminary injunction, and at that stage
the judge could enter the order that could last for
six months, et cetera. So the judge scheduled a hearing

(01:19:24):
for Friday and starts out saying, well, I'm sure you
were all late last night reading the Ninth Circuit decision,
and then he immediately goes and says, what I want
to know is do I still have the power to
decide the question under the passe Boy, I'm blanking at it.

(01:19:46):
Come a dearest, and I should be able to say
it because it's Latin and that's what the line is.
But I'm blanking on it. The Passe Comatatis Act.

Speaker 1 (01:19:56):
You know, I can see the words. I'm never saying
them out loud because I don't think I would say
them correctly, so I couldn't help.

Speaker 19 (01:20:04):
So the poseik Comatatis Act, and what that is is
a federal statute that prohibits What it actually does is
it makes it a crime to use the armed forces
to enforce the law in the United States unless there
is an exception, unless there's a statute that allows it.

(01:20:27):
So Friday morning, when this hearing is going on, within sentences,
the judge says, what I want to know is basically,
can I still rule on that? Because typically when an
appeal takes place, the case goes up to the appellate
court and the lower court can't do anything. So he

(01:20:48):
asked the parties to brief that issue. The only reason
he would have them brief the issue is because he
wants to rule on it. And given how latently wrong
he was on the other issue, how clearly biased he
was against the President's case, he was resorting to, you know,

(01:21:10):
pulling out the we don't have any kings in America
language that you hear from the loftist. I have no
doubt that the judge is poised to enter an injunction.
I would love to be wrong, but there's just too
many signals to say the judge is going to now say, well,
you still can't put the Marines in the National Guard

(01:21:34):
in Los Angeles. And just today there was further briefing
on it, so you had both Newsom and Trump telling
the court what they thought that the judge should do.
Newsom said, Hey, we want to get some discovery, so
let us have thirty days to depose these officials to

(01:21:56):
find out what they're having the troops do, what the
purpose was, whether or not there's still a reason to
have them on the ground. And I wouldn't be surprised
if the judge goes along with exactly what Newsom wants.

Speaker 1 (01:22:12):
So, Margot, here's my question. It has been framed as
the National Guarden Marines are there to protect federal facilities
as well as federal agents who are trying to enforce
federal law. They've never been out there on the streets
trying to replace or supplant the LAPD or the Los
Angeles Sheriff's Department. They've not tried to do those things.

(01:22:34):
And so I don't know, I don't know the premise
that they're trying to have the military enforce the law.
I don't even know where they can argue that that's
occurring if you look at what's happening on the ground.
I guess the other question is in the riots of
Rodney King, riots it looked like with the cooperation of
a governor and with Pete Wilson and with the Mayor

(01:22:55):
Bradley at the time, President Bush was able to have
the Army and the Marines and the National Guard and
Colin Powell was directing them. So I don't even know.
I just don't even understand the premise of the argument.
Is there something I'm missing?

Speaker 19 (01:23:12):
So you're not missing anything. It really comes down to
the politics, and when it's Trump, everything changes. We're seeing
that from court case after court case. What Newsom is
trying to frame it as is that they are enforcing
the law because if they have a confrontation, they're going

(01:23:34):
to have to arrest the person. And I think there
was one individual who was actually taken into custody by
the National Guard because he continually tried to go into
a prohibited area of one of the federal buildings, but
he was immediately turned over to the local officials. And

(01:23:55):
from the theoretical perspective, you can see if you've got
the National Guard of the Marine means who are doing
a buffer and preventing people from doing things from coming
and attacking the building, at some point they might need
to exert force in order to defend themselves, and that

(01:24:18):
I think is what Newsom is arguing is enforcing the law.
But there's still several problems with that. One, this is
a criminal statue. This isn't like a statute where Congress
says you can't discriminate against someone and give someone the
right to suit. This is actually a criminal statue. There's
nobody who has the right to sue to enforce it.

(01:24:40):
It's a crime that could be charged against someone. So
that's one of the problems. The second problem is it
has to be the willful use to execute the law.
They're not there to execute the law. Maybe there will
be a couple of situations where they actually have to
detain someone, but it's not why they're there. It's not

(01:25:05):
willful of executing the law. Third, under the statute, it
actually says unless it's otherwise provided by a federal statute.
And we have this other statute that talks about you
can deploy the National Guard when necessary to because you
can't otherwise execute the law. So there's a ton of

(01:25:27):
reasons why this theory doesn't work. But there were a
ton of reasons why Newsom's first theory didn't work. The
judge still granted the injunction, and Newsom was out there
on X right afterwards saying I look forward to being
back in charge of the National Guard. It was ridiculous.

(01:25:49):
Then if the judge does what I anticipate, it's going
to be ridiculous again. He's going to be overturned. And
this is just continuing on and on because there's too
many moles to keep whacking. There's over six hundred federal
district court judges and they are more than willing to

(01:26:12):
basically do their their fighting against Trump. For the courts.

Speaker 1 (01:26:19):
Marrow, we have to go to a break. I can't
thank you enough for staying on top of this. I
would have thought I was reading old news if not
for you staying and keeping us in in the loops.
So we'll keep watching this. Thank you for your good work,
and thank you for joining us on the program.

Speaker 19 (01:26:33):
Oh you're welcome. Thanks again for having me.

Speaker 1 (01:26:35):
Thank you. That was Margo Cleveland. She's a legal correspondent
with the Federalists, talking about this the just the obnoxiousness
of the of the judges in California and what they're
doing to President Trump as he's trying to keep the peace.
And you know enforce the law. Okay, we have one
final break when we come back on the Rotting Greg Show.
You're listening to Talk Radio one oh five nine. Can

(01:26:55):
rass Rod will be coming back from his vacation this week.
It could be any day, we don't know. Well, I
can't wait to hear where he's been and what he's done.
I'm sure it's been quite the adventure, a lot of pressure,
good bumper music. I think I think Iran's feeling it.
I think the Democrats are feeling it. I had to

(01:27:18):
laugh when I read this article about Colorado. This is
just kind of we're landing the plane here. In terms
of the end of the show, final segment, have a
couple minutes with you. Colorado is launching a dashboard to
track federal funding cuts.

Speaker 7 (01:27:32):
Now.

Speaker 1 (01:27:33):
You might think that Colorado is doing that because they
are budget hawks. They are conservative, and they were happy
to announce that the largesse of the federal government is
shrinking appropriately and that government waste is being addressed. Now,
Colorado wants and wants to launch a dashboard to track
federal funding cuts to argue against any federal funding funding cuts.

(01:27:55):
They think every dime spent ought to be spent in
any any effort to cut I don't know, social Security
benefits for people age one hundred and twenty years and
older is wrong and shouldn't happen. USAID that's funding all
these NGOs and left of center causes against common sense
people in America shouldn't be touched. So Colorado has a blashboard.

(01:28:19):
I thought that the whole motivation behind it is insane,
because again, usually I've never seen anyone This is the
only time I can remember where the American people, or
at least the Democrats, would assume that the American people
have a vicious and just dying loyalty to government bureaucracy,
that the federal government, not their member of this US Senate,

(01:28:42):
not their member of Congress, but the federal budget and
all the money sent to it is sacred and hallowed
and shouldn't be touched in any way. They really think
that we are, that we should be very concerned about
any of the cuts coming in the federal government. I
would argue that I have never known a day where
anyone thought that federal government or any government really federal, state, county, city,

(01:29:06):
doesn't have the ability to be more efficient to get
more return a greater return on investment. It's just human nature.
It happens in business. I mean, it's the same thing.
So I think Democrats trying to make the government bureaucracy
the victim. It's a crazy place to go. Anderson Cooper

(01:29:28):
kind of disappointed me. He wants to go out there
in Israel and he wants to be a war correspondent.
But unlike the war correspondents I've observed over the years,
when the when the evacuate or get into the bunker,
siren goes off. This coward starts running past the other people,
the Israelis that are trying to get under there. He's
got his cameramen and he's running down there faster than anybody.

(01:29:49):
Do you remember seeing these people with the helmets on,
and they're out there and they're they're reporting the war
as it's going on. Not Anderson Cooper. He's he and
his crew of se and they are seeking cover. They're
not going to show you anything with the camera. They're
going to go and find cover themselves and hope they
can stay connected and can still broadcast from the safe

(01:30:11):
haven of an underground bunker. But that's just kind of soft.
I don't think that's the way it used to be.
Even Winston Churchill himself used to stand on the roof
and watch as Germany was bombing London. He wasn't going anywhere,
He's watching it from the roof. Did not believe he'd
be hit. Felt he had too important of a job
to do. Okay, it's the end of the show. We'll
see you tomorrow starting at four o'clock. Keep your hands up,

(01:30:33):
your chin down, your eyes forward, answer the bell and
I will see you again tomorrow at four pm. Thank
you for listening.

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