The Rod and Greg Show: Weekly Congress Interview; Supremes & Immigration; SC Win for Trump

Episode Transcript

Speaker 1 (00:00):
And I'll tell you what if this is global warming,
give me some more.

Speaker 2 (00:02):
I like the warm weather.

Speaker 1 (00:04):
I see icy snow in those mountains. This was zoo.

Speaker 3 (00:06):
Not enough.

Speaker 1 (00:07):
There's a ton of rail not enough.

Speaker 3 (00:08):
We need a lot more snow.

Speaker 1 (00:09):
The raid tons this weekend. We have plenty of water.
I like the warm ones.

Speaker 3 (00:13):
Yeah, well we you know we need a lot of snow.
Remember how much money those skiers spend in Utah.

Speaker 1 (00:19):
Let's just leave it up there down here.

Speaker 3 (00:22):
I'm not saying we need it down here. I'm just
saying it's up there. Well, we've got a great show
lined up for you today. The President is he's speaking yet, Dave.
He's about to speak. He'll be in Pennsylvania and he's
talking about his economic plan. The word has gotten to
the White House. You better start talking about affordability and
the cost of things coming down. I was just told
by Dave, one of our remote technicians here, that he

(00:44):
paid what two thirty six a gallon the other day
at a Walmart out on the West Side. Pretty amazing.
So prices, you know, some people could argue, are coming down.
Other prices have not come down yet. I just think
greg is a matter of time.

Speaker 1 (00:57):
I do too. I think we've we've had great we
had Stephen Moore on, we had we've had great economists on.
Grover Norquist has been on and and they've all pointed
to great refund tax refunds coming for taxpayers after the
big beautiful bill cut taxes, and so people should be
getting larger than anticipated tax refunds. And I think as
interest rates to continue to decline, and as our inflation

(01:19):
is under two and a half percent, it's okay. We're
told that things are improving. So you know, I'm not
I'm not a chicken little. I'm not going to say
the s guy's falling.

Speaker 3 (01:29):
Yeah, yeah, well, we'll all talk about that. The President
is there. Utah lawmakers in a special session. They've been
in committee meetings all afternoon, but they go into a
special session at about six tonight. They'll consider a number
of key issues, including the redistricting plan put out by
Dirty Diana.

Speaker 1 (01:46):
Yes, dirty Diana, Dirty Diana, Diana, Diana Gibson, Judge Diana Gibson,
Judge Diana Gibson.

Speaker 3 (01:52):
I just want to make sure we got to Diana Gibson.

Speaker 1 (01:53):
For that retention election, if and when it ever comes.
Diana Gibson is the name of the judge.

Speaker 4 (01:58):
She.

Speaker 1 (01:59):
I think that I look forward to the debate that
will occur today on the floor of the House and Senate,
where the legislative branch gets to opine about their constitutional
duty to draw the maps, the congressional district maps of
which they've had nothing to do with the private that
the judge gave a private left of center organization, the
effect of law to draw these districts themselves. They don't

(02:22):
actually work h so that's it yet to be applied.
They're having to delay the filing dates for those congressional deaths.
One of the things will do in this a special
session is delay the filing dates. They don't have maps.

Speaker 3 (02:34):
Because you run for a seat that you know where
the disk and part.

Speaker 1 (02:38):
Of that is because you don't have maps at work.
They don't they're not actually aligned to borders or they're
splitting houses. But that's what you get when a private
group gets to draw and do what the constitution said
that the legislative branch gets to do. But I look
forward to and maybe we'll have some clips tomorrow after
this special session is over. Of some of the comments
that lawmakers make on the floor debating and talking about

(02:58):
the fact that they did not. I think they may
affirmatively vote down those maps.

Speaker 3 (03:04):
Well, we'll see. I mean, you and I were talking
about this earlier today. I wish the governor and Lieutenant
governor had stepped in right away and said these maps
are not acceptable. And you know when she had that
deadline of November, what was it tenth? I think it
was the tenth of November where she'd had to have
that deadline, she should have stepped in said no, I
reject these maps. They aren't acceptable. They were want to
proved by members of the Utah Legislature, which the constitution

(03:28):
says they should be.

Speaker 1 (03:29):
A plan reading of our state constitution would give I
think the governor and Lieutenant governor all the room to
just say nope, nope, you can refer back to a
legislative branch, but you can't take that branch as powers
away from.

Speaker 3 (03:39):
Mike Lee will join us here in a few minutes.
He had some rather harsh words to say about this
redistricting plan and a group called Mormon Women for Ethical Government.
He has a few thoughts on what that group is like.
We'll talk to Mike about that coming up a little
bit later on, we'll talk about the Supreme Court now
an important hearing yesterday concerting if the President has the

(03:59):
right to look at it agency heads and just say
you're fired. And apparently he can't do that now because
of a very antiquated law from years ago during FDR,
but the Supreme Court may change that. Liz Peak will
join us. We'll talk about birthright citizenship that has opened
up a door for a discussion on that, plus a
lot more to get to it. So it's great to
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back line. One other things before we talked to Lisa here,

(06:12):
what is the University of Utah up to?

Speaker 1 (06:15):
God?

Speaker 3 (06:16):
They announced this big hedge fund deal today. This it's
a first. No other school has done this in the country,
and I'm not sure where this is going or what
exactly it's doing.

Speaker 1 (06:26):
This is a this is a breaking story this afternoon.
This is gonna we'll be talking about this in days
to come because this is getting national attention. A five
hundred million dollar hedge fund is now going to have
ownership for profit ownership in the Athletic Department of the
University of Utah, which is a state institution of higher learning, which.

Speaker 3 (06:44):
Is where I both of us are going.

Speaker 1 (06:47):
Huh. But the idea that this is a first of
its kind, this hasn't happened before they say they got
to go ahead nod from the NCAA. I'm curious if
the state lawmakers are know that the state's image, it's schools, image,
it's logo are being sold or being owned in large
part by a hedge fund. And tell me a hedge

(07:07):
fund story that's gone. Well, it was it, Joe's was
it was it? I mean, where have hedge funds been
the key to the American dream? Where are things? Where
have prices fallen with the hedge funds getting involved? I
see nothing but a very bad precedent being set here.

Speaker 3 (07:24):
And then we'll set to see the thing is that
you bring out it involves a state institution. Otherwise the
home is the University of Utah, right, And lawmakers don't
know about this, and lawmakers aren't being asked to approve
it or give an insight into this from so we've
heard from some lawmakers who've been texting to digging. We
don't know anything about this.

Speaker 1 (07:43):
Yeah, I gotta tell you that's a so I taxpayers,
we we in the state of Utah better see a
five hundred million dollars refund break. I think there's five
hundred million dollars less. It has to go to you
that this for profit wants to own the state Institution
of High Learning own it for profit. The donors aren't
going to donate anymore to you. They're gonna be They're

(08:04):
gonna be investors in the hedge fund.

Speaker 3 (08:06):
Does that mean my tickets go down?

Speaker 1 (08:07):
You know?

Speaker 3 (08:08):
No, thanks, ticket break don't go down.

Speaker 1 (08:11):
I don't know if you've seen hedge funds, but they're
not really. They don't look at that make it cheaper.

Speaker 3 (08:15):
They don't care about that. Well, we'll find out more
about this in the coming days and get reaction to this.
And we've got a lot coming up. Mike Lee will
join us next on The Rotten Greg Show is a
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down at the end of June. When they make them great,
are going to be monumental. I mean, they deal with tariffs,
they deal with birthright cit decisionship. Yesterday they heard a
case involving at the president Donald Trump can look at
the head of federal agency and unelected federal agency and

(11:53):
look at him say you're fired. And right now he
can't do that. But the Court is considering that.

Speaker 1 (11:57):
Well, you know, I think I I was surprised that
in the executive branch you couldn't, but you had this
fourth branch. It's been swimming around there for ninety years
and it's only gotten bigger and more draconian. And so
I think that the time has arrived. And I think
that a lot of people listening to the questions asked
by the Supreme Court justices, they it seems like the
questions pointed in the direction that they're going to but

(12:20):
not have a fourth branch, but have the president the
executive branch have controlled to hire and fire the position.

Speaker 3 (12:26):
Well, I had a chance to talk with Utah sunder
Mike Lee a little bit earlier today about this, and
I asked him about this decision and his take on everything.
Here's what he had to say.

Speaker 7 (12:34):
Yeah, So I attended the Supreme Court arguments yesterday in
a case called Trump versus Slaughter.

Speaker 4 (12:39):
This is a case.

Speaker 7 (12:39):
Testing whether the president can remove executive branch bureaucrats, specifically,
in this case, a member of the Federal Trade Commission
based on policy disagreements, were something else falling short of
a willful violation of the law or other affirmative active malfeasance.

(13:00):
Now look, Article two vests the President of the United
States with executive power. In fact, the Article two itself
says that the executive power is vested in the president.
When officials aren't implementing the laws and aren't doing so
in a manner consistent with what the president believes is appropriate,
that the president should be able to remove them. Nearly

(13:23):
a century ago, in a case known as Humphrey's Executor,
the Supreme Court said that the president could not fire
certain employees. But during yesterday's argument, several justices I believe
six of them seemed unconvinced that Humphrey's Executor can stand.
And so we're left with this question. Is a sort

(13:47):
of nameless, headless, faithless fourth branch of government, one utterly
lacking in political accountability to the voters. He's that constitutional?
I say no, And it appears to me very likely
that there at least six justices on the nine member
Supreme Court who are likely to agree with that. So

(14:10):
the Supreme Court now has this opportunity to overturn Humphrey's
Executor and restore presidential authority over the executive branch. That
would end an era of a type of bureaucratic tyranny
of these people who operate within the executive branch without
any accountability to any elected official, including the President of
the United States. So the end of Humphrey's Executor, I believe,

(14:32):
is coming, and it can't come soon enough.

Speaker 3 (14:34):
What does that mean in your opinions under leave for
the future of the federal government? I mean, this is
not going to do away with their bureaucratic state. But
what does it mean? I mean, look down the road,
what do you see? What things do you see changing?

Speaker 7 (14:48):
Well, really, this is about personnel, and as is often
said in Washington and elsewhere in government, generally, personnel very
often is policy. And if the president, as the chief
executive officer of the US government, doesn't have the ability
to fire executive branch employees who are not executing and

(15:08):
implementing and enforcing the law in a manner consistent with
what he deems appropriate. He ought to be able to
fire them or else he is, at least in that area,
not functioning as the president. That's wrong. The Constitution can't
countenance that. Article two specifically forecloses that, as did previous
interpretations of Article two prior to this Humphrey's Executor, while

(15:31):
English came out about ninety years ago, does.

Speaker 3 (15:33):
This give him a lot more freedom in doing what
he wants to do when it comes to shrinking the
size of the federal government, do you think, senderly.

Speaker 8 (15:41):
Not?

Speaker 7 (15:41):
Specifically on that point, Humphrey's Executor is agnostic as to
the size and overall cost and reach of the government.
This deals more with the balancing what I refer to
as the horizontal distribution of power within the US government.
It deals with his ability to operate as the chief
executive officer of the executive branch of government. So again

(16:03):
that's agnostic as to the overall size and cost and
reach of the federal government. But it deals with what
he may do with personnel, especially with the understanding that
personnel is policy.

Speaker 3 (16:13):
I want to move on to another topic. Utah lawmakers
meeting today in special session. One of the issues they're
going to be talking about is this redistricting plan, which
I know you've been very critical of. I noticed over
the weekend you got into a little text message battle
going on with Ben mccadams. What can be done now?
It appears everything that the judge that they're trying to

(16:34):
do before the courts is tossing it out. Where do
you see this going, cenderly?

Speaker 7 (16:39):
Well, look, Utah's want their elected representatives in charge of redistricting.
They're not alone in that. The Utah Constitution stands with them.
I believe it Articled nine of the Utah Constitution that
puts the power to draw legislative district boundaries, including congressional
district boundaries, in the hands of the legislature, the elected legislature,

(16:59):
the ban banche of our government most accountable to the
people at the most regular intervals, not in the courts.

Speaker 9 (17:04):
That's the branch.

Speaker 7 (17:05):
Leaked accountable to the people. With good reason, but it's
one of the reasons why we don't give that power
to judges. And in prior phases of this litigation, judge
Gibson herself acknowledged that she doesn't have the power to
draw legislative district boundaries, and on that basis asked the legislature,
I believe this is back in August, within a particularly

(17:27):
tight deadline, to reconvene draw legislative district boundaries and send
them back to her. Well, she didn't like those boundaries,
and rather than ask them to do it again and
pointing out what specifically ran a foul of it, she
just drew them on her own, adopting lock stock and barrel,
another set of plans that were presented by the parties

(17:47):
in that case, including Mormon Women for Ethical Government. This
is wrong and look, a new poll shows that seventy
one percent of Utah's trust lawmakers to draw the maps,
only eight percent sent walk judges taking the lead. That's
a mandate for legislative control that we have to view
appropriately as on top of what the Utah Constitution already requires,

(18:09):
which is for the legislature to do this and already prohibits,
which is for judges to do it. So the legislature
meeting today in a special session to deal with the
fallout from this court fight over Utah's maps and this.

Speaker 5 (18:22):
What I regard is that the pactly.

Speaker 7 (18:25):
The aggressive judicial overreach in this case, the voters want parity.
Lawmakers are stepping in to provide that clarity. And you know,
there are a lot of proposals out there. One of
the proposals shifts the filing window for next year's congressional
elections from March ninth through through the would switch it

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forward a couple months to March ninth through the thirteenth
of twenty twenty six. And if that passes, that'll give
the legislature some addition time to appeal to the Utah
Supreme Court and give the county clerks the time to
prepare for any map changes. It's a practical step that
would keep Utah's election machine rate running smoothly, and I

(19:11):
hope they're successful in that.

Speaker 3 (19:12):
Sender Lee. What's been so interesting about this is there's
no doubt, and this has been called by several people
I've heard that this is the most egregious example of
jerry mandarin they've ever seen. Yet you have this group,
this Mormon Women for Ethical Government and Better Boundaries, who've
been fighting for a long long time against jerrymandering, but
now they support this map that is extremely jerrymandered. I mean,

(19:35):
that's kind of an interesting take on all of this,
isn't it.

Speaker 7 (19:38):
Yes, it's like you say, this group, Mormon Women for
Ethical Governments, now they're funded by a national dark money network.
I've going after various progressive, leftist causes. Now, Utah didn't
ask for outside groups to redraw their states congressional boundaries.

(19:59):
Nor is the Utah ust sh authorize it, or did
the Utah Constitution authorize Judge Gibson to do what she
did and just to adop lock Stock and Barrow their plan.
But nonetheless this happened. They want their own elected representatives
making these decisions.

Speaker 5 (20:14):
The people of Utah.

Speaker 7 (20:14):
Understandably justifiably want that. Mormon Women for Ethical Government were
really aggressive and going after general jerrymandering. And yet that's
exactly what this is. There's a political gerrymander. It's a
parent on the face of these maps which they proposed.
And Judge Gibson due to.

Speaker 3 (20:34):
Utah under Mike Lee on the Rod and Gregg Show,
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so many good things. When it comes to immigration, a
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(21:50):
and I think I would would include Republicans on that
as well. Yes, but since Joe Biden took office, you
know what, do we allow eleven million illegally aliens into
this country over that period of time. I mean it was.

Speaker 1 (22:02):
Absolutely just letting them in and then Geo's then then
transported this massive transport transportation effort to all continental United
States and then signing them up for benefits, well for benefits,
public assistance. Uh, it was. It's unprecedented in those four years.
We've never seen anything like it. And we need to
discuss immigration in those terms and not just boil it

(22:22):
down to the traditional discussions of illegal immigration, because what
happened to us as a country in the four years
of Joe Biden really does have to be spoken about.
I know it's an uncomfortable conversation for some, but this
is this is this is impacting you know, our schools.
We said this yesterday, our schools, our public safety, our jobs,
our housing, criminal justice is really suffering in a lot

(22:46):
of ways disproportionately. We have to be able to talk
about these things.

Speaker 3 (22:49):
Well, joining us on our Newsmaker line to talk about
birthright citizenship is Liz Peak, a columnist Fox News is
great to have you on the show. Tell us about
why you feel that with a supreme be for talking
about birthright citizenship, it opens up a door on immigration
for Donald Trump.

Speaker 10 (23:05):
Well, I think it's a chance to sort of reignite
the conversation about ouration system, which I think most people
would agree is not serving the interests of the United States.
Birthright citizenship is, of course, one very contentious issue. It
is a policy that is rare amongst developed nations. Almost

(23:28):
everyone else, every other country has abolished it because it
serves as a tremendous enticement to illegal immigration. Birthright citizenship
means anyone born on US soil is automatically a US citizen,
And so what you have number one, is a tremendous
amount of birthright or birth tourism, where people come.

Speaker 11 (23:49):
From China and Russia.

Speaker 10 (23:51):
And drop a baby here knowing there'll be a citizen.
It also is a tremendous enticement for people from Mexico
and South America to come across the border, because even
if they are illegal, their kids will be legal, and ultimately,
you know that they hope that that means the family
will be included as well.

Speaker 11 (24:10):
So it's a.

Speaker 10 (24:11):
Bad policy, but we have lots of bad policies. The
diversity lottery is a terrible policy my view. Counting undocumented
people in the census is also a terrible policy because
it rewards Democrats whose states are bleeding residents by allowing
them to entice a lot of people illegally in the

(24:32):
country to come and live in their state, and so
they don't lose congressional seats.

Speaker 11 (24:36):
They don't lose federal aid, etc.

Speaker 10 (24:39):
I think President Trump started strong on immigration.

Speaker 11 (24:44):
People were happy to see the border secured, but.

Speaker 10 (24:48):
Now people have turned against his administration.

Speaker 12 (24:51):
Because they view the deportation policies.

Speaker 11 (24:54):
As too harsh.

Speaker 10 (24:56):
I think everyone in the Latino community probably knows someone
who's been here thirty years and lived.

Speaker 12 (25:02):
A respectable life and all of a sudden.

Speaker 11 (25:04):
Has been rounded up.

Speaker 10 (25:05):
So that's something that's not working and he needs to
fix it.

Speaker 3 (25:09):
The birthright citizenship issue, it does apply, however, to what
is that the fourteenth Amendment of the Constitution. Could the
court come back and say, this is a constitutional issue,
you need to go to the people, or have you know,
the legislative body change this? I mean, could Could they
kick the can down the road on this one?

Speaker 12 (25:29):
Absolutely? They could. They could just say his executive order which.

Speaker 10 (25:34):
Abolished birthright citizenship, doesn't hold is not legitimate because it
is established under the Constitution. Now, the fourteenth Amendment has
a little wiggle room in.

Speaker 11 (25:45):
It because it talks about anyone born.

Speaker 10 (25:48):
On US soil and subject to the jurisdiction thereof Well,
Trump and his team would say that people who are
here illegally are not really subject to the jurisdiction of
the US government. They serve or they answer perhaps to
their own government or a government somewhere else, but.

Speaker 12 (26:08):
Not really to ours. And there are exceptions.

Speaker 11 (26:11):
To the rule. If you're a diplomat and you have a.

Speaker 10 (26:13):
Child in the United States, that child does not become
a US citizen even though he or she is born
in the United States on American soil. So there are
carve outs and what people What the Trump team would.

Speaker 11 (26:28):
Argue is that the fourteenth Amendment.

Speaker 10 (26:31):
Was basically an effort to reverse the dread Scott decision,
which said that blacks could.

Speaker 11 (26:36):
Not become citizens.

Speaker 10 (26:38):
That was a pretty horrible decision, and that's why they
adopted the fourteenth Amendment.

Speaker 3 (26:43):
This birthright citizenship issue, Liz, and you appointed this out
just a moment ago, has been really abused in this country.
I mean, you have people from all over the world
who come to the United States to have a child,
and then that child becomes a citizen of the United States.
The abuse has been amazing, hasn't it.

Speaker 10 (27:00):
Yes, absolutely, there was a period of time I remember
writing about this maybe fifteen years ago, where Chinese were
coming in by the thousands, and there were literally spas
built on the West coast to accommodate pregnant Chinese women
who were coming here exclusively to give birth so that

(27:20):
their children could become citizens. I mean, who Obviously, that's
a tremendous boon if you're not comfortable with your own
government and you're looking for an escape hatch having a
US passport that is like, you know, worth its weight
in gold, and a lot of people would like to
have that.

Speaker 11 (27:36):
So it has been abused.

Speaker 10 (27:38):
I don't have up to date numbers on how many
people every year are coming here.

Speaker 12 (27:44):
Expressly for this purpose.

Speaker 11 (27:46):
But it's far too many, and.

Speaker 12 (27:48):
It's just again something where the United States.

Speaker 10 (27:50):
Is not very careful about the benefits that they hand out,
whether they're cash benefits or citizenship citizenship benefits.

Speaker 3 (27:58):
What did the polls say about this issue? I haven't
seen any polls of light. What do the American people say?
As far as the polling is concerned.

Speaker 11 (28:05):
I don't think that's very popular. I don't have the
numbers in front of me.

Speaker 10 (28:10):
But most of the things that Trump has proposed in
the past about changing our immigration regulations have been very His.

Speaker 11 (28:21):
View has been positive.

Speaker 10 (28:22):
People want again our immigration policies to serve our country.
For example, astonishingly, some eighty four percent approve of a
merit based program that's like what Canada has, where you
would basically accumulate points because you speak English, you have
a trade we need, et cetera, and you would be

(28:43):
admitted on the basis of merit, not random selection. And
I think you know that kind of thing. I think
people are very open to it, and I don't think
that birthright citizenship is in that category.

Speaker 11 (28:55):
It is not something that benefits our country.

Speaker 3 (28:58):
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Wow, it's kind of rude. It's kind of rude. I
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First of all, you know World Cup soccer? You a
soccer fan? Not at all?

Speaker 1 (32:29):
Now, Look, I I suffer, true, I suffer true fat.
I don't even I'm not even gonna pretend. But I
did sit through a lot of games that my daughter
played through, Like you know Sparty United, you know the
club sports in the high school sports of soccer, like
I love everybody. If you listen to the show, you
know I love sports. I can't tell it off sides
in soccer if I were sitting next to it.

Speaker 3 (32:48):
It's absolute.

Speaker 1 (32:49):
And I hate games at end and a tie. I
think it's an offense. I hate it. That's like kissing
your sister. I just hate ties. Sit there and sometimes
soccer doesn't it a tie, there's like a you know,
they have the the the kick at the end, they
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very end they get a kickoff or whatever they call it.

(33:11):
But but sometimes you do it. But other times I
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up and getting their chairs and going like where are
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Speaker 3 (33:17):
See? If I think on the the the extra kick,
I can't remember what someone will what's it called? Guys,
But at the end when they have, they should shrink
the goal down because that's too big of a net
for one guy to come when it's one on one.
I mean, it's never fairer.

Speaker 1 (33:30):
It's never fair. Yeah, yeah, Well I just you asked me.
The original question was do I like soccer? And the
answer is now. But I was a good father. I
did attend all those See.

Speaker 3 (33:39):
I actually liked soccer primarily because of our youngest son,
who played soccer goalie. He was a goalie for Davis
High years ago. Two of his children now play competitive soccer.
And you know, and and I like watching the EPL,
the English Premier League. H And I like the World Cup.
The World Cup is coming up next year.

Speaker 1 (33:58):
I don't even know who you are, right, what I bet?

Speaker 3 (34:01):
I bet we have more soccer. No, I'm not going
to say that because I'll get drunk.

Speaker 1 (34:05):
Don't even go there.

Speaker 3 (34:06):
But I bet we have quite a few soccer fans.

Speaker 1 (34:08):
Not that I'll admit it, no, I mean just you
just went on and on. You have quite the resume.

Speaker 3 (34:14):
Well, I I if you understand the game, it's kind
of fun to.

Speaker 1 (34:18):
Watch, you know. They flop a lot, men, thrown men,
they fall down and act like the hurt when they're not.
It's it's the antithesis of football.

Speaker 3 (34:25):
The Italians do that.

Speaker 1 (34:26):
They all do it.

Speaker 3 (34:27):
No, they don't.

Speaker 1 (34:28):
I see them. They're all rolling around crying and they
get up and run off.

Speaker 3 (34:30):
Well, let me bring this up to you because I
find this a very interesting story. Then we'll get into
our main topic, to another sports topic. The city of
Seattle is going to be one of the sites of
the World Cup matches next summer, this coming summer, right, yes,
and they have designated September or they have designated Pride match.

(34:51):
Pride match, Okay, for one of the matches of World.

Speaker 1 (34:53):
For Lions Pride prize for a Lion.

Speaker 3 (34:56):
For the community. Okay, it's a pride match, is what
they're going now. The problem with this match is the
two teams that are playing do not condone homosexuality. Egypt
in Iran.

Speaker 1 (35:10):
He wait wait, First off, when you said there's a
pride match in soccer, it's sounded like a perfect fit
for me. But now you say that it's it's Egypt,
and I rent that. Egypt in Iran, who we know
as the nation states. They are religiously affiliate nations.

Speaker 3 (35:26):
Off of buildings.

Speaker 1 (35:26):
Yes, and they're gonna they're going to have their game
wrapped in rainbow.

Speaker 3 (35:30):
And in Seattle.

Speaker 1 (35:33):
Well, that won't feel very welcoming to those countries coming
to the World Cup. Now, no, I think that again.

Speaker 3 (35:39):
Once again, rude, you don't you don't think that will work?
All right? Now, I want to talk. I want to
keep it on sports because I find this story to
be fascinated. Do you know what is one of the
fastest growing sports in America today?

Speaker 1 (35:53):
Pickleball?

Speaker 3 (35:54):
No, well, pickball is, yes, I.

Speaker 1 (35:56):
Was gonna say that's your favorite.

Speaker 3 (35:58):
You know another one? What girls wrestling?

Speaker 2 (36:01):
Nah?

Speaker 1 (36:01):
I hate that. You know, you get you seeing the
guys with cauliflower ear. Yeah, I mean you don't want
any you know what the ladies walking around with cauliflower ear. No,
that's from wrestling.

Speaker 3 (36:10):
That's from boxing.

Speaker 1 (36:11):
No, that's from the that's from the carlage in your
ear getting broken up because they're getting a head scraped
on the mats. That's that's wrestling. Cauliflower ear is a
is a wrestling thing, not a boxing. You can't you
can't let girls get those cauliflowers wells, that'll be terrible.
It will not look good. They have to wear long hair.

Speaker 3 (36:28):
Well, grow their hair long. They'll be all right. But
apparently there is there is word out there that wrestling
for girls at the middle school and high school level
has become very very popular.

Speaker 1 (36:41):
With bad parents with bad parents. But I will say
my daughter, so my oldest cheese, I let her train
in boxing, not she in like enter a tournaments or anything.
And she would spar a little bit with the great headgear.
They have new headgear that actually blocks your nose, so
you now you get your nose punched. But she trained,
and she I liked her training. I thought it was

(37:01):
good for her to know how to throw a jab
and for a righte if needed.

Speaker 3 (37:05):
Yeah.

Speaker 1 (37:05):
So I like the training, But in wrestling, I don't know.
I just all of it just seems.

Speaker 3 (37:11):
Did you do well? I don't know how often you
went to school, because even if you went four years.

Speaker 1 (37:16):
I was a feral child. It was a it was
a you know, sporadic thing.

Speaker 3 (37:19):
We all remember going to gym class and we have
to wrestle. Really, you had to wrestle. Where I went
to school, you had to be part of the curriculum
during the during the winter months where I grew up
in New York State was we had wrestling and we
had to wrestle each other. Did you do that in Pea?
How did you do that? In p Did you wrestle? Dave? Yeah,

(37:43):
he wrestled.

Speaker 1 (37:44):
Maybe that's here. I don't know they make us wrestle.

Speaker 3 (37:46):
They didn't.

Speaker 1 (37:48):
We doing that. We played we played dodgeball man, we
played dodgeball.

Speaker 3 (37:54):
Well, you had to wrestle.

Speaker 1 (37:55):
We didn't know. We did not have to wrestle. Then
you had to do the way was it what was
it the seven minute run or something. You had to
do that. You had to do that every year. You
had do that. Every I don't know. All I know
is we weren't wrestling.

Speaker 3 (38:05):
You had to get in, you had to get on
all fours, take.

Speaker 1 (38:09):
You down your family show. We would have talked about
the inties of the sports.

Speaker 3 (38:13):
You would have to learn that.

Speaker 1 (38:15):
If it was WWE wrestling, you.

Speaker 3 (38:18):
Have me give me.

Speaker 1 (38:20):
I want to do it. I want to do a
some body slams and some you know, super Fly, Jimmy
Snooka jumps across the ring. I'll do that.

Speaker 3 (38:29):
I like that, and you believe it.

Speaker 1 (38:31):
Yes, it was all real where even blood? Yeah? Yeah,
so I like that. I like the w w F
and WWE wrestling. I don't like that what you just described,
that's girls doing that. Nah, you can't have that.

Speaker 3 (38:45):
I'd like to I'd like to talk to a parent
who has a child who a girl who is wrestling.

Speaker 1 (38:50):
No, we have good listeners.

Speaker 3 (38:51):
We have good responsible parents that would never do that
to their responsible daughter. I think you will allow you to. Well,
remember the girl who played football, she got all.

Speaker 1 (39:00):
I like her, she's I do know her.

Speaker 3 (39:02):
I point her when what's the difference in her playing
football in her wrestling?

Speaker 1 (39:06):
It's not even rotly close. She she was so fast,
No one could touch her. She never ever. I mean,
she was a phenomenal football player. They even the NFL
made a big deal about her. I know, the Super
Bowl weekend.

Speaker 3 (39:16):
I know they Yeah, she's a she's a hero.

Speaker 1 (39:18):
Report.

Speaker 3 (39:18):
Anything that gets kids off the couch, off their video games,
off whatever.

Speaker 1 (39:24):
You don't have to sit there and roll around a
mat and get your ears all scraped up.

Speaker 3 (39:28):
Get your ears scraped up, so terrible. That's just not
But I would like to I would like to know
if there are some listeners out there tonight who do,
in fact allow their daughters to wrestle, either in the
middle or high school level, and why they allowed to
do that, and if people if they enjoy it, that
would be it would be interesting to see. I would
just like see what they're doing out there. You hated

(39:49):
the idea, But anything that gets kids active, I don't
care if they're rolling around in a mat or running
around the lake, I think it's good. Well, what are
you doing on your phone?

Speaker 1 (40:03):
Someone sent me a video but I couldn't open it
to see it, and I think I had sports related
so I was just gonna see if it was making
if they were siding with me or you.

Speaker 3 (40:12):
Well, what you wouldn't let your daughters wrestle.

Speaker 1 (40:14):
No, be honestly, you don't. Don't let him pressure you.
I know I can already see it on your face.
It's heavens know is the answer answer? Yes, No, they're not.

Speaker 3 (40:27):
Having girls, not boys, of.

Speaker 1 (40:30):
Course, other girls.

Speaker 6 (40:31):
But still it's I don't know. I'm not like that
was a thing when I was in school. I'd have
to like see because I know right like there it's
very political.

Speaker 1 (40:40):
Yes, Lisa's just so nice. She doesn't know how to
tell you no, that's just that is about the nicest
she can be about politician. She's saying, you know, lost wrestle,
My girls are wrestling?

Speaker 3 (40:52):
No, what if they asked can I wrestle?

Speaker 2 (40:55):
Mom?

Speaker 3 (40:56):
Well, she's thinking, all right, we want to hear commute
to Yah on this issue. We'll talk about minkey kotur
in a minute. We're right now talking about wrestling. Would
you allow your daughters to wrestle at the junior or
middle school or senior high school level level if they're
wrestling other girls? My guys, the guys thing is now.

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Parents would not. But I don't know a lot to see.

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Speaker 3 (44:31):
If you're just joined in US now, this is not
the top issue in the country today. There are other
important issues. But an interesting topic I think into in
talking about girls in wrestling. Yeah, it is a growing sport.
Hall just told us, is it. Westlake High School has
a girls wrestling team, to say, one like four state champions,
and the question is would you allow your daughter to wrestle?

(44:54):
I wouldn't go for the co ed stuff, but I
would if it's a This is.

Speaker 1 (44:58):
Where I know this is sound hypocritical, but I will
say that amateur boxing. I don't have as big of
a problem with girls participating in amateur boxing.

Speaker 3 (45:06):
Wait a minute, so they can beat on each other,
but they can't.

Speaker 1 (45:09):
Yeah, I think the wrestling is just too hard because,
like I said, you don't want their ears getting scraped
up on the mats. And I just think the wrestling
is I don't know, it just seems it just seems
too much. Yeah, but we do have really good girl
box amateur boxers actually.

Speaker 3 (45:22):
And you're okay with the boxing but not there and everything.
Yeah that one alright. Eight eight eight five seven eight
zero one zero. Let's go to Mike, who's in Eagle
Mountains tonight on the Roden Great Show. Mike, how, why
are you? Thanks for joining us tonight.

Speaker 2 (45:38):
I'm doing really great. Thanks for having me.

Speaker 13 (45:42):
I believe that, and you Actually I agree with Citizen Hues.
I'm probably ninety eight percent of the things.

Speaker 1 (45:51):
Mind say, it isn't so.

Speaker 13 (45:57):
No, these two you're talking about. You mentioned Westlake High School. Yeah,
I have two of.

Speaker 2 (46:04):
The girls that went to Westlake High.

Speaker 13 (46:06):
School in my neighborhood, and I can tell you that
one of them took state four out of four years freshman, sophomore, junior, senior.

Speaker 1 (46:19):
Because there's eight girls wrestling, is that why? I mean,
what's the what's the what's the talent? No wrestling.

Speaker 13 (46:25):
The talent pool is huge now and Westlake High School
is just phenomenal. The other girls took state I believe
two or three.

Speaker 2 (46:34):
Times in her four years in high school.

Speaker 13 (46:38):
And one of them, the first one, went to play
for the US team and was ranked in the top
ten for her weight class in the whole nation. I
believe I believe that.

Speaker 2 (46:57):
They shouldn't have to wrestle biological male.

Speaker 13 (47:00):
Yes, But that being said, I also believe that both
of these young women could continue to the ground.

Speaker 1 (47:10):
Yeah. Probably. You know the thing? What about the cauliflower were.

Speaker 9 (47:16):
You know?

Speaker 1 (47:17):
Guy, I've seen guys in high school they wrestled, their
ears start to look different. What are we doing for
the girls on that?

Speaker 13 (47:24):
All I have to do is where the protect ear protection?
Even in practice? And you won't get that, neither want
I don't. These two young women do not have to see.

Speaker 3 (47:34):
Say I told you there's a good thing to do.
All right, let's go back to the phones. We want
to go to. Uh where is this cash valley? We're
talking with Britney tonight here on the Rod and Greg Show. Britney,
how are you? Thanks so much for joining us.

Speaker 8 (47:47):
Hey, thank you, it's so great to talk to you.
Wrong Greg, Yeah, I just wanted to chime in on
the women's wrestling girls wrestling. My husband actually coaches at
a gym, and he coaches in like jiu jitsu and
boka jitsu, a lot of different like grappling mma styles

(48:07):
that he actually has a lot of females in his class.
But high school doesn't have a lot of programs that
would convert those activities into the high school and so
a lot of the girls that go to his gym
convert to wrestling for their high school classes just to
keep that that skill uptick. So yeah, it's it's really

(48:27):
popular up.

Speaker 1 (48:28):
Here Britney with jiu jitsu and some of them. I
like that. I like the combat sports a little bit wrestling.
Do you think wrestling just seems like you know? Again,
I go back and Mike says, if they wear the
protective gear on their ears, they don't get the cauliflower ear.
But I'm telling you wrestling is it's tough for girls.
I mean, do we really want I don't know. Tell me,
I walk me back from this. I I can see

(48:50):
amateur boxing, I can see the ju jitsu, I can't
see wrestling. Brittany helped me at this. What am I missing?

Speaker 8 (48:56):
Well, well, wrestling, it's it's really just another skill. You
have to learn how to maneuver your body and function
your body correctly to harness the abilities of that skill,
just like you would in jiu jitsu or karate or
let say, girls in dance, you know, they get these
corns on their feet. Wrestlers get the cauliflower ear. You

(49:20):
get football players that have concussion, they have back injuries,
and so you really just have to train your body,
no matter what sport you're in, no matter what gender
you are, to adapt and work your body correctly so
you aren't receiving as many of those injuries. And wearing
protective gear definitely helps. But yeah, haven't haven't really seen

(49:41):
a big issue with a lot of the I know
a lot of girl wrestlers from Mountain Crest has a
lot of really really great wrestlers. We took state one
year in female wrestling, and it just it really just
plays to understanding your sport, if wrestling is your sport,
whether you are a male or female, understanding the protective

(50:03):
equipment that you need to wear, Understanding how to maneuver
your body, and you really can avoid those injuries, and
you really can be very successful no matter what you're doing.

Speaker 1 (50:12):
What you know, you just made Rod's day. You should
see the way he's looking at me right now. He
is just laughing at me. He's mocking me. You know,
thank you, Brittany for.

Speaker 8 (50:24):
My husband. He was in the military. Wow, did you
be a matter of how you wrestle? I give him
a black eye, but I think he won for you.

Speaker 1 (50:33):
Brittany. I like you, Okay, I like that. I think
that's street credit. That's just because I was. I was
thinking of my head. But I didn't want ask. I
don't want to be rude like Brittany, would you wrestle?

Speaker 9 (50:43):
Well?

Speaker 1 (50:44):
I should have asked her what she did?

Speaker 3 (50:45):
She did? She did? There are benefits of getting me.

Speaker 1 (50:49):
You never win these, you never I'm getting killed on this.

Speaker 3 (50:54):
Yes you are eight eight eight five seven eight zero
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Speaker 1 (51:06):
For you our listeners. Here at making a tour, we
have a lot of young ladies that are working very
very hard helping customers. Uh huh. During the commercial break,
we did a quick little poll inside the store asking
these young ladies, if given the opportunity, would they like
to wrestle? And it was a resounding, though not a resounding,
it rending.

Speaker 3 (51:26):
There was there was one young lady who boxes.

Speaker 1 (51:28):
Yeah, no, that's she trains, and that's that's a good
I like that.

Speaker 3 (51:31):
I think the young ladies. But one of them was
open minded. She said, we didn't.

Speaker 1 (51:37):
Even pick up that. She was just being nice to you. Yeah,
she's very polite.

Speaker 3 (51:41):
Well, apparently it's become one of the fastest growing sports
in the country. We're talking about, uh wrestling for girls,
elementary school, middle school, high school, you name it. They're doing.
And we didn't realize there's as much that goes on
here in the state of Utah.

Speaker 1 (51:55):
That is a surprise.

Speaker 2 (51:55):
It is.

Speaker 1 (51:56):
It is a national story and I did not know
that here in the state of Utah, in our high schools,
we have a very we have very successful uh yeah,
girls wrestling programs. Yeah, I who knew? I do not know.

Speaker 3 (52:07):
All right, your thoughts on this? Would you allow your
daughter to wrestle? Mister Hughes says no, but she can box,
which does make a lot of sense.

Speaker 1 (52:16):
Yeah, no, the boxing again, the trail. I like the
training aspect of it. This three minutes focus paths, heavy
bag stuff like that.

Speaker 3 (52:23):
Eight eight eight five seven eight zero one zero on
your cell phone dial pound two fifty and say hey,
rod to the phones we go. Let's start with David
in roy tonight. You're on the rod in Greg show.
Hi David, how are you?

Speaker 14 (52:35):
I'm good?

Speaker 2 (52:36):
Thank you?

Speaker 14 (52:37):
And No, I would not allow my daughter get involved
in any sport where there's.

Speaker 2 (52:42):
Contact with his skull because.

Speaker 14 (52:44):
There's real structural differences between boys and girls, and the
risk is it's higher for girls, and I don't think
it's worth it. There are a lot about other competitive
sports that can get involved in, which is volleyball, soccer
that's simply whole less risk and that's where I had
channel their competitive impulses towards.

Speaker 2 (53:04):
Yeah.

Speaker 3 (53:05):
So, David, do you think there's more risk in soccer
than there would be in basketball or volleyball or any
of those sports.

Speaker 4 (53:15):
No, I think they're pretty close to the same. It's
just the ones where you've got actual physical contact. We
are throwing somebody to the mat, or you're throwing punches
at the potentially they had, yeah, you know, any risk
of a serious fall. So I think basketball or yeah,
basketball would have more risk because it's a hard surface

(53:36):
of the basketball court, where soccer at least you've got
some cushioning.

Speaker 3 (53:41):
Yeah, that's true, and you have to get to a
certain level in soccer, to be able to hit a
ball younger, younger teams are not allowed to do something.

Speaker 1 (53:49):
David, you bring up a great point about the just
difference between men and women and the structural difference. So
I know that the tenants ligaments of my daughter played soccer,
and that there was there was prone. You didn't have
an offseason. If these girls just played soccer all year long,
they play indoor in the wintertime, outdoor in the springtime, summertime,
that the chances for knee injuries, ligaments, things like that

(54:10):
were really really high, more so really for girls than
for boys. If you translate that into contact sports like
wrestling or even boxing. I think Dave brings I think
David brought up some good points. I think I think,
I I think i'm I think he's brought me over.
I think I maybe even boxing. I think I might
think twice.

Speaker 3 (54:30):
Well, well, I think I'll go back to what I
said earlier, Greg. I think any any activity that gives
kids off a couch, off a video game, doing something,
working with a team, working individually, challenging yourself, getting knocked
down and having to get back up, I.

Speaker 1 (54:47):
Think are all good yeah, if you in direct those
of sports where they're not getting their nog and hit,
I think it's good. But yeah, no, I I think look,
sports brings out all of that. I think adversity, overcoming
adversity is the life life lesson and embracing adversity because
it is inherent when you're trying to get something done.
And so I think sports is a great way to

(55:07):
bring introduce a young person to adversity without having a
horrible life for something tragic they have to overcome.

Speaker 3 (55:13):
It's very important. I just anything that gets kids active today,
I'm in supportive. I am.

Speaker 1 (55:19):
Yeah, well you're not alone. How's callers on your side?
Is very foreign for me. I'm not used to that.

Speaker 3 (55:26):
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Speaker 5 (59:12):
I agree you, you bet. I've coached junior high and
high school wrestling. I've worked with the girls both before
they split the girls off and.

Speaker 3 (59:21):
Before they did.

Speaker 5 (59:22):
And I'm telling you, the girls love it. And I
get approached all the time by girls and they say, well,
my dad doesn't want me to wrestle, And I tell them,
you go home. You tell your dad one day you're
going to be out on a date and you're gonna
need it to be able to handle yourself. And I
tell you what, with wrestling, your dad has got no worries,
none at all.

Speaker 2 (59:40):
Man.

Speaker 5 (59:41):
But it is a rare occasion, a rare occasion when
a girl doesn't tries it and doesn't love it. The
only more than one girl that has stepped away from
it at a time was back when we had both
the boys and the girls practicing together, and the girls
just told me straight up right, they said, Coach, we

(01:00:01):
love this, but the boys smell so bad. We can't
tend to be in that room with them anymore. We
dish so right now, the big, the big help to
make the wrestling that I've worked with successful is separating
the boys and the girls team and letting them have
their own head coach and letting them go. And I
know head coaches of boys that have come out of

(01:00:24):
retirement just to coach the girls because it's so fun
and it's so great in an emerging sport. And the
quality of the wrestling, I would say, doubles every year.

Speaker 3 (01:00:36):
By the sounds, are you saying girls are better wrestlers
than boys? Are there as good as boys when it
comes to wrestling within their own gendera well within their
own gender.

Speaker 5 (01:00:45):
Not yet. I believe that the girls wrestling, the skill
of the wrestling itself is doubling every year, and they're
catching up quickly. The thing with girls is that when
you coach them, they listen.

Speaker 3 (01:00:58):
With boys.

Speaker 5 (01:00:58):
You've got to get to that look. I just got
to be tougher than the other guy, the girls will
listen and the their technique and quality.

Speaker 3 (01:01:10):
We lost a great feedback. Yeah, that is good.

Speaker 1 (01:01:12):
The only thing I would have asked is about injuries,
if there's if there if there are more injuries with
girls wrestling with guys. But I loved Al's take. I
tell you what I had. No my eyes have been
opened in this show today. I had no idea we
had so many tough girls with around to love it.
I mean, I don't want to respect it. I respect it,
but I am a father that would have shied against it.
Still still on the fence, I think. But that made

(01:01:33):
a very compelling argument.

Speaker 3 (01:01:35):
Well, the most compelling argument is they won't wrestle the boys.
Boys stink.

Speaker 1 (01:01:38):
That's hilarious. That's all I've been not by the wrestling
room as a guy's smelling the other guys going, you
know what, it's a bit ripe in there.

Speaker 3 (01:01:46):
I don't know, guys, just.

Speaker 1 (01:01:49):
Yeah, it's true. Not you know, I still worry about
the injuries. But man, now, really, really, all of our
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Speaker 9 (01:02:00):
Really good.

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Speaker 1 (01:02:19):
I'm a citizen, Greg Hughes. So it was a very
enlightening last hour. I learned a lot about girls wrestling.
Yeah I didn't, I didn't know it. I yeah, it
was good. We have good listeners. We have the vast
experience and knowledge of our of our radio audience is amazing.

Speaker 3 (01:02:35):
Yeah, the good, good people. Now, just why you bring
up to speed. Utah lawmakers are starting their special session
right about now. I would think that's right.

Speaker 1 (01:02:43):
We we we thought about actually covering it a little
more in depth this today, but we think we'll get
a better handle on it all tomorrow and there'll be
some good things to report on what happens as they
begin that special session. Right now, it's supposed to start
at six. My experience was it was six ish y.
I can't imagine they've already hit the gabble. But but no,

(01:03:05):
they're gonna deal with this redistricting nightmare. They've got to
move filing deadlines because you got to judge that's put
this private group in charge, left of center group in
charge of drawing in the congressional maps. You've got some
other issues that are that are they're playing out there.
There's a there was a ballot measure that they were
looking at to potentially uh, we're dealing with collective bargaining

(01:03:25):
and unions, public unions, public employee unions, and that's being
that bill is being rescinded and that ballot measure is
not going to be dealt with this this November. So
there's that.

Speaker 3 (01:03:36):
Change the dates for filing for office too, because typically
it's the first week of January.

Speaker 1 (01:03:40):
Is folksy, every other elected office whose map has not
been drawn by Judge Diana Gibson's favorite left of center group,
Judge Diana Gibson.

Speaker 3 (01:03:52):
Dirty Diana Dirty.

Speaker 1 (01:03:54):
They're they're they're filing deadlines will remain the first week
in January. It will just be the congression and old
filings for candidacy that will be pushed out into probably March.

Speaker 3 (01:04:04):
Okay, Yeah, and if any news comes out this hour,
we'll certainly let you know. But we are we are
broadcasting from a Minky couture. As we mentioned, we talked
a couple of days ago, and I think it was
last Friday, greg an article that Kurt Schlichter wrote in
town Hall. He's a good friend of ours, talking like
about why is it the Democrats oppose everything that common sense,

(01:04:26):
fair minded Americans?

Speaker 1 (01:04:27):
Like, Yeah, there's a war on normal Americans everyday. People
just we're just we're just the enemy.

Speaker 3 (01:04:36):
Sow Well. Joining us on our newspaper line to talk
more about that right now is Zachary Faria. He is
a commentary fellow at the Washington Examiner, wrote in about
how Democrats treat illegal immigrants better than they do citizens. Zachary,
thanks for joining us tonight. You wrote an article and
shared some examples of what you mean by this. Explain
what those examples are and tell that story.

Speaker 9 (01:04:59):
Yeah.

Speaker 15 (01:04:59):
The two big ones are the California commercial driver's license issue,
where California is issuing commercial driver's license to illegal immigrants
to drive semi trucks without doing any verification really of
if they're even allowed to have them. And you see,
obviously we've had several high profile cases of those truck
drivers then killing drivers in illegal maneuvers. On the roads,

(01:05:22):
and then you have in Rikers Island in New York City,
New York is refusing to honor is detators for violent
criminal illegal immigrants who are in Rikers Island who are
then released out under the streets.

Speaker 1 (01:05:35):
So let me ask you, is this Trump Drange derangement
syndrome where anything that Trump advocates for, be it secure borders,
public safety, the Democrats have to recoil and be opposed
to it, Or are these deeper than that? Are these
just these agenda? Is this a leftist agenda, that's just
we're seeing better today than we've seen in the past.

Speaker 15 (01:05:58):
I'm definitely inclined to think it's more of Trump derangement
and Republican derangement syndrome where Democrats can't just come out
and say, hey, we have some law abiding illegal immigrants who, yeah,
they came here illegally, but they're just trying to make
a better life for themselves and for their families. Instead,
they have to go one hundred percent in the opposite
direction and say we oppose deporting anybody. So you know,

(01:06:19):
you can't take an illegal immigrant criminal from Rikers Island
and then deport him when a sentence is over, we're
gonna block that deportation. Really, it's just completely the other way. California,
for example, passing numerous giveaways for illegal immigrants, including phone
bill subsidies on the California taxpayer dime. They can't just say, hey,
there's some illegal immigrants who maybe we want to try

(01:06:40):
and get to stay here long term. It's we have
to give them all this stuff. We have to protect
them from being deported no matter what they do.

Speaker 3 (01:06:46):
Zachary, what is it someone who wrote the other day
raising this question about Democrats? Is they seem to be
opposed to everything that fair minded, common sense Americans believe in.
What is it with Democrats when they wanted to support
everything that most Americans. Wait a minute, that's going a
little too far.

Speaker 15 (01:07:04):
Part of it is just they have no opposition coming
at them from anyone in their own circle. You know,
Liberal media never pushes them on any of this stuff.
So they inoculate themselves in this bubble and they think
everyone supports it. It's what you saw with the Biden administration,
thinking that no one's going to really care that the
border's wide open. That was the big New York Times
piece that came out five years too late? Was that

(01:07:26):
the Biden administration thought this wasn't going to be a
big political issue and it turned out to be one
because Democrats don't have that sort of introspection coming at
them because everyone in their circle agrees with them.

Speaker 1 (01:07:35):
So so where does it go from here? I mean,
we have more to more than two years left of
Trump's term. He's had just a little over a year
in office. Are we just going to see you know,
these narco terrorists become the darlings of the Democrat Party
and the Maryland man who's the human and drug trafficker,
you know that's here illegally with the trende Uruguay gang member.

(01:08:00):
Are they just going to continue to be their poster
children and who they bleed their hearts bleed for going
forwards the rest of his term? Or does anything change
before the midterms are after?

Speaker 15 (01:08:13):
I don't think there's gonna be much change. What you're
gonna see is kind of the same as the lead
up to twenty twenty, where Joe Biden presented himself as
this more moderate voice. He's just coming in to lower
the temperature and he's not gonna do anything crazy. And
then he gets in office and all the idea logus
in his administration start doing everything crazy. I think it's
going to be a very similar playbook in twenty twenty eight.
You're gonna see Democrats running around kind of like how

(01:08:34):
Gavin Newsom's running around trying to downplay transgender issues at everything.

Speaker 3 (01:08:37):
They're gonna be.

Speaker 15 (01:08:38):
Doing the same thing on immigration. They're going to say
that we have to protect American citizens and all this stuff,
and we have to moderate a little, and then when
they get into office, they're just going to do the
exact same thing that Biden did. So I think Democrats
are kind of stuck in this holding pattern where they
pretend to be moderate, they win an election, they get
too radical, they lose an election, and it just keeps
going on and on.

Speaker 3 (01:08:57):
But if someone like Gavin Newsom steps up and try
to portray himself as zero point ol Zachary, a moderate,
can he even win the party's nomination now, knowing how
far to the left is drifted.

Speaker 11 (01:09:10):
I think so.

Speaker 15 (01:09:11):
Because Gavin Newsom specifically has built himself sort of a
reputation as the progressive warrior. The problem he's going to
run into is the same problem Kamala Harris ran into
last year, which is that Kamala was so radical in
her twenty twenty run for president that it followed her
into twenty twenty four, and voters didn't buy when she
was trying to put on this moderate facade. So that's
kind of going to be the thing that's going to

(01:09:32):
have to break Democrats if someone like Gavin Newsom tries
the same thing and it breaks him the same way,
because voters already see how Gavin Newsom runs California and
they don't buy that it's going to be a more
moderate presidential administration.

Speaker 3 (01:09:45):
No, I don't think it will be either. Zachary, thank
you very much as Zachariariy for Rhea Commentary fellow with
The Washington Examiner. Greg, And you know, it's a good
point here in America. I mean, many Americans are saying,
wait a minute, you raise such a ruckus over these
these drug runners on this boat. You're speaking in their behalf.
You're speaking to behalf of the Somalis who allegedly ripped

(01:10:09):
off the American taxpayers to the tune of eight billion dollars.
The Democrats are behind efforts like this, and you're always saying,
what is something wrong with that?

Speaker 1 (01:10:16):
I know, it's just there's no end of the irony
of who the Democrats are willing to spend political capital
for and on behalf of. And it's never us instead
of them. Everyday people of this country, it's always you know,
the Maryland man, they guy, it's a human and you
know drug trafficker, it's it's the cartels bringing in the
poison and the fentanyl into the country. It just doesn't

(01:10:39):
doesn't makes sense.

Speaker 3 (01:10:40):
It doesn't. All right, we are broadcasting live today from
Makey Coteur. Lisa is back with us to tell about
helping you get ready for the holidays, which are not
that far away anymore. You know, this makes always thinking
about this, Lisa. A lot of people are invited to
Christmas parties and you know they want to take along
something to say thank you. A Manking Coteur blanket is
a perfect hostess gift.

Speaker 6 (01:11:01):
Oh absolutely right that there's no better way to say
thank you for all your time in the kitchen and
you know, preparing this wonderful evening for us to enjoy
than with a Menki Kotor blanket. And any time you
gift a meanky blanket, that person is going to think
of you every time they wrap up in that blanket,
they'll remember you and think, oh wow, they this is
such a great gift, and you will be always remembered

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by them, you know.

Speaker 3 (01:11:23):
And there's always somebody Lisa on your list and you
have no idea what to get them. You kind of say, well,
they have everything over the years, I've given them all this.
What can I give them now? That is unique? Boy,
A gift from Minki Kotor, not just a blanket, but
other things. What a great gift.

Speaker 12 (01:11:39):
Yes.

Speaker 6 (01:11:39):
Absolutely, We've got you know, our robes, the blankets, the
tree skirts, all of our Christmas collection, our hugs collection,
which is our most popular. I mean, we have something
for everyone on your list. And the one thing that
I think is very unique about a blanket is that
it is universal, regardless of the age or gender, right

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like a blanket is for everyone. And it's funny because
we'll have wives who come in and you know, or
husbands who come get them for their wives, and then
the wives are back in getting one for their husbands
because their husbands say, I don't need a blanket, end
up taking their blankett. They really do like their blankets.

Speaker 1 (01:12:16):
I this is a witness from the congregation You're absolutely right. Yeah,
I aim into that. I honestly it is. It is universal. Yeah,
And there is no one who's been a recipient of
one of these beautiful making guitar blankets, the hug me
back blankets, the ones that have universities, you know, conduct logos.
There's never been a complaint. There's only been conversation afterwards

(01:12:37):
of how much they've enjoyed it. That really, that's all
I've ever experienced.

Speaker 6 (01:12:40):
Yeah, and it's true, right, I feel like anytime I've
gifted a blanket to someone, the next time I see them,
they are just rushing up to be like, oh, my goodness,
thank you so much. That was such an amazing gift.

Speaker 3 (01:12:50):
Now we want to mention the collegiate blankets are new.
You can't offer the discount on that because of rights. Right,
you have it. You have you b y u Utah
Utah state. We were state. You have all of schools
here in the state with a collegiate logo. Yes, what
a great gift that is.

Speaker 6 (01:13:04):
And they're extending nationwide. So they have a couple of
other national schools online and they're just going to continue
like every you know, month or two, they have a
new drop of colleges that are coming nationwide, so so
really cool and exciting things happening at Minkika Tour. It's
just like I say, I'm always impressed with what is
Minkika Tour going to come up with next? And I say,

(01:13:24):
in twenty twenty seven, just stay tuned because there's going
to be some great things coming.

Speaker 3 (01:13:29):
In And am by Lisa, what's the offer tonight from.

Speaker 6 (01:13:31):
So tonight we have fifty five percent off any full
priced blankets with code ROD fifty five and you can
use that code in any of our stores now through
the weekend or online, So if you don't have time
to come into a store or you're not near a store,
you can still receive those seats.

Speaker 3 (01:13:46):
We haveven locations up and down the Wahsatch front, So
come on by. It is Minky cod or let's great
listeners have gumpied today. I know it's been We've got
one hand left.

Speaker 1 (01:13:55):
I know we had a bunch of hats. We got
one left. I look. I love when we come here
because first off it we always do a little shop
and when we're done, after the show's over, but we
always get to meet such great listeners. Thank those listeners
to stop by if they're still listening, We appreciate you
stopping by. Love the calls, love the participation that we
get from our audience.

Speaker 3 (01:14:15):
Utah lawmakers are now meeting in special session tonight. YEP.
Some issues on the docket for them to consider tonight
is the Union Bill that's going to be taken away.
They're going to change the dates to file. It's typically
what first week of January. They'll move it probably to March.

Speaker 1 (01:14:32):
For congressional candidates.

Speaker 3 (01:14:33):
Yeah, for congressional candidates, only giving them a little more
time to deal with this redistricting bill. I know you
have been talking and we have been talking to Utah
lawmakers about somehow and I don't know what form it takes. You,
being Speaker of the House, would know better than i.
I Greg, but I don't know if it's a resolution,
some sort of document to give lawmakers a chance to

(01:14:57):
express on paper and in public vote. Restrict team, It's
very simple.

Speaker 1 (01:15:02):
What is there they're going to put that They're going
to put that map in bill form as if it
were a map any of their congressional maps that they
would draw, so you would have a bill and it
would have in the bill and then it's gone. It
would have map, it would have the maps, it would
have the exhibits, and they will they would vote if
they were to vote it up or down, or they
would they're they're going. I believe if we if we

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had the the Senate President Stuart Adams on the on
the program, he said they were going to vote this.
They were going to put this this bill in front
of their body in the House and Senate and have
a vote. So it will look like any bill that
would look to either pass or fail, a congressional map.
And I believe you're going to hear many members of
the House and Senate stand up and can them vote
against And I bet you the votes are over two

(01:15:44):
thirds against these these maps. And put that into the
into the lexicon, into into the into the public record.
You know, these these special sessions are part of a House,
a printed house journal. Among the pages. Make sure for
history's sake, they have voted affirmatively. They haven't just you know,
no one can say they just didn't do their job
or they rent affirmatively vote as a legislative branch, these

(01:16:08):
these maps down. And I think that the debate will
be important to listen to. And I hope we have
some good clips from that for tomorrow's show. But you
just vote up and downs. That have to be resolution.
It just has to be the maps as you would
as you would normally vote one that you would pass,
but you voted down, voted, and you voted down. And
every Democrat will love it because they love a plus

(01:16:29):
twenty four percent Kamala Harris District and Utah. Give me
a break. But you're going to find that they'll they'll
I think they'll be that that is that makes a
very strong statement when the state constitution says that the
legislature will decide, and the only thing this legislature will
have decided is that those are not the maps. Yes,
that they as far as that branch is concerned, done,

(01:16:52):
then then you go ahead and sort that out executive
branch and judiciary, because I think the legislative branch will
have spoken loud it's not their job to come with
your solution. They didn't make the problem the judiciary did.
I'd say in the executive branch, honoring the judges unconstitutional
actions is a problem I'd throw. I'd just throw a
wrench right into the gears here. If I were still

(01:17:12):
a speaker, and I would just or if I were
a governor, I just not I would not do it.
I just would not take I would not accept it.

Speaker 3 (01:17:18):
And I've said this since the ruling came down a
couple of weeks ago, where I think Dietra Hendrickson, as
lieutenant governor, should have said to the judge, I do
not accept this map because it was not approved by
the state legislature, which clearly states has to do in
the legislature. Therefore, I do.

Speaker 1 (01:17:35):
Not accept it.

Speaker 3 (01:17:36):
I think that would have thrown judge.

Speaker 1 (01:17:38):
Who is it, Diana Gibson, Diana, Diana Gibson, dirty Diana.

Speaker 3 (01:17:43):
It would have thrown her for a loop. Yeah, and
last Friday they made you have another appeal and she
said no again. Yes, she has dug in her heels
so much on this, Greg, I don't know where we
go from here.

Speaker 1 (01:17:53):
And the thing is she could just say the plane
reading of the state Constitution says that I should be
receiving maps from a legislative branch. Yes, and I have
not a not a court, so I don't accept the
map from the judiciary, and I would just let that.
I mean, yeah, let's look, we've had moments in this state,
even not that long ago when Obama shut down the

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federal government and they took Zion's National Park and they
shut it down, and you had all those people stranded
along the road. I was in the legislature then, I
was a majority whip. The county attorney in Washington County
and the county sheriff in Washington County called the governor
then Governor Herbert and said, hey, we're just letting you know,
we're not actually asking for permission. We're coming with go
bolt cutters. We're opening Zion's National Park, and we're not

(01:18:35):
letting these people be stuck. And what did what did
the governor and the Obama administration have to do? They
had to reverse engineer concept of how they were going
to let that be a legal action because they didn't
want to have a standoff with Washington County, County attorney
and county and county sheriff. Well, I think that if
the executive branch said nope, yep, I just want to

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know what happens next after that, because I think it's
well within right as well, then the legislature's right to
vote down these maps. I don't know. I think that
I think they should be pushing on this. I know
everyone's trying. I have the legislatures trying very hard tonight
and doing everything in their power. I just think that
you don't have to bend the knee to the You're

(01:19:17):
a separate, equal power, the executive branch, legislative branch. You
don't have to bend the knee to the judiciary like this.

Speaker 3 (01:19:24):
Well, and we hope tomorrow either it will have some
legislative leaders on the show reacting to this and where
they go from here, because they they have come up
with a roadmap as to how to address this. We'll
have to see where it goes. Yeah, but dirdy, Diana
has her heels dug in. She ain't moving. No, she's
not No, she's not moving.

Speaker 1 (01:19:39):
And the Supreme State Supreme Court, we'll see what they
right what they as a joke?

Speaker 3 (01:19:43):
All right? More coming up. It is the Rod and
Gregg Show on Utah's Talk Radio one O five nine
can Arrest broadcasting live tonight from Minky Co Tour.

Speaker 1 (01:19:51):
And this is it. I at Lisa said they're not
offering anymore specials outside of this of the show. They
don't need to. It's chriss, that's true. That one's going
to start coming and coming out of desperation because they
waited too long.

Speaker 3 (01:20:04):
I would know.

Speaker 1 (01:20:05):
I kind of know that world. It's kind of the
world I live in. I have time blindness. It's a disability,
and I need accommodations.

Speaker 3 (01:20:11):
Give me that.

Speaker 1 (01:20:11):
Yes, I'm disabled.

Speaker 8 (01:20:13):
You know.

Speaker 3 (01:20:13):
I'm just looking over their collegiate blankets right next to
us here. Those are good looking. Boy.

Speaker 1 (01:20:17):
They have it your rod fifty five.

Speaker 3 (01:20:19):
Yea, well it's a collegiate, collegiate thing.

Speaker 1 (01:20:22):
Yeah, but not for you know it is now that
Hedge Now that Hedge FUDG just bought half your school.
That that money is gonna be twice the price they
got to make their money. You're gonna get soaked Hedge fund.
I can't even imagine Hedge fund in a college or university,
let alone a state institution. I'm so confused by this.

(01:20:42):
Soons these guys get out of the special session, man,
I got questions.

Speaker 3 (01:20:45):
Well, and we've got to dig into it. Exactly what
has the university basically said, here's our athletic department. It's
all yours. Hedge fund.

Speaker 1 (01:20:55):
Ownership of a state's department. They have to do that
in the image and the name and the logo. Come on.
I And what I'm surprised that is some of my
former colleagues. It was news to them.

Speaker 3 (01:21:08):
Yeah, they didn't even know about it.

Speaker 4 (01:21:09):
Now.

Speaker 1 (01:21:09):
If that's the case, I got to tell you, Yeah,
they got out on a little bit of a thin limb.
I think, unless they unless the governor gave him a
go ahead nod, and the legislative leaders did. But I
don't know. If I'm a lawmaker and I'm reading that
today online, I think I don't think i'd like finding
out that a state property was sold to a hedge fund.

Speaker 3 (01:21:28):
Yeah.

Speaker 1 (01:21:28):
I can't even say it out loud now. It just
sounds so surreal.

Speaker 3 (01:21:31):
Just laughing about it as well. Well, we want to
go back to a conversation we had a little bit
earlier with Utah sender Mike Lee about this hearing before
the Supreme Court yesterday. It involves a decision made by
the Supreme Court ninety years ago. Yes, and it impacts
the president's ability to fire heads of agencies. Yes, you know,
and that's the case. This involves the firing of the

(01:21:54):
FTC commissioner. We spoke with Mike about it, and we
wanted to bring in Ilia Shapiro. He is Director of
Counsel Institutional Studies at the Vanhattan Institute For This Ilia,
thank you very much for joining us. Will the president
or will the Supreme Court? Do you think down the
road when this ruling is made, get the president a
right to look at some of these agency leaders and

(01:22:14):
say you're fired. Will it do so?

Speaker 14 (01:22:17):
Yeah?

Speaker 9 (01:22:17):
I think that's what they're going to do, based on
yesterday's argument and based on where they've been going for
the last fifteen years, and in a series of cases
there have been enhancing the president's ability to appoint and
remove and have control over these so called independent agencies,
and the whole idea of an independent agency as a

(01:22:38):
constitutional malaprophism. We only have three branches, so you've got
to belong to one of them if it's the executive branch,
and the president has to be able to control who's
in charge to be able to enforce his policies.

Speaker 1 (01:22:50):
You know, a sword can cut both ways. You have
a Democrat elected president, Will they will take these agencies
and fire them all and put their own people in.
But I suspect it's kind of the bureaucracy kind of
leans that way anyway. I don't know that it's as
much of a double edged sword as some might describe.

Speaker 9 (01:23:09):
Well, it's it's it's true. I mean, you're enhancing presidential
authority regardless of who's in the White House obviously, and
there will be Democrats in the White House again, there
will be non Trump Republicans. You know that that's the
way the wheel turns. But the issue of the bureaucracy
is slightly different, and there were, there has been there's
still ongoing litigation about what a president can do with

(01:23:31):
respect to non political appointees that's so called the career staff,
which are subject to civil service protections of various kinds.
That's sort of what's sometimes called the deep state. Is
a slightly different issue than control over these political appointees
and the ones who are actually running the agencies.

Speaker 3 (01:23:52):
You know, if the court rules in favor of the
president in his argument, and it appears they may be
as a result of the questions that we're asked yesterday
and the comments being made, what are some of the
broad implications of this, If in fact they rule in
favor of what the president wants to.

Speaker 9 (01:24:06):
Do, well, it means that the agencies will be part
more directed than that of executive branch decision making. So
just like the Education Department or the Energy Department does
what the president wants is a part of one unified administration,
so will the FCC, the FTC, all of these alphabet

(01:24:30):
agencies which you know whoever's in the majority, because they're
all structured so that there's you know, three to two
Republicans versus Democrats, what have you, And they kind of
shift their powers as new president's form and new appointments
are made. But now there will be more directly part
of the administration, and so who's headed to to to

(01:24:54):
direct them will be just as important and just as
political as the nomination of cabinet secretaries.

Speaker 1 (01:25:01):
So why did so? This is a ninety year standing
Supreme Court ruling that's being looked at now. Why hasn't
it caught the attention of any administration or the Supreme
Court up until now? Is it just been abused to
a new level. Is this something that's long overdue that
should have been addressed? Why now?

Speaker 9 (01:25:20):
I think it is long overdue. That ninety year old
president called Humphreys Executor came in the context of the
Federal Trade Commission, the same agency the FTC that's that
issue now that was under FDR, and that agency and
other agencies were very different animals at that time, that
they were not necessarily exercising executive power. They were legislating,

(01:25:46):
they were acting as judges, which is the reason why
the Supreme Court back then said that the executive can't
have full control. They're exercising quasi legislative power. Things like that.
The administrative state, the big bureaucracy, has grown into a
much different animal than it was back then. And so
it's just come to a point where, as part of

(01:26:08):
a broader series of rulings to push back on the
administrative state, we have the overturning of Chevron deference, for example,
the difference that judges used to pay to the interpretations
of agency heads of their operative statutes. And this is
part and parcel of that that the Court wants to
the originalists, the justices that care about the original meaning

(01:26:32):
of constitutional provisions, want to rebalance and reinforce separation of
power so that there's accountability.

Speaker 3 (01:26:39):
Oh yeah, any guests as to what Donald Trump and
future presidents may do if they have this ruling now
in their hip pocket. What do you see happening down
the road here.

Speaker 9 (01:26:50):
Well, every president will replace the heads of these agencies,
the Securities and Exchange Commission, the National Labor Relations Board,
all of these things. So they'll be, as I said,
more directly connected to presidential agenda making, and just as
Trump has done this term. He didn't do it as

(01:27:11):
much his first term, but replacing people who were on
political appointees who were there before with his own more
loyal appointees. And so we'll have shifts in those agencies
at the leadership level, just as we've had sh just
as we have shifts every four years of the political

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appointees in the cabinet departments.

Speaker 1 (01:27:36):
So I think four years goes fast. We're looking already
past a year in the president's first this second administration,
and we have midterms coming up. Decision will come, I
guess what does it come in May or June? And
then how long do you think until the president is
able to implement if it assuming I don't want to
count my eggs chickens before their hash, but if he
were to see a ruling go his way on this,

(01:27:57):
how long till he can implement that and still have
a term left to serve?

Speaker 11 (01:28:03):
Well, he already has.

Speaker 9 (01:28:04):
Been in a sense. You know, he's the procedural posture
of this particular case, the removal of this FTC commissioner,
and there are others with with other agencies he the
litigation is sort of paused in the President's favor at
the moment. So assuming this goes as it's predicted to go,

(01:28:24):
as we've just been discussing the president's way, then those
people that he's fired will remain fired. I don't know
if he has anybody else on the chopping block that
he hasn't gotten to yet, So might not directly affect,
you know what, what what he's doing, because he's been
doing it. It's just that he's the one that's now
that this has gotten to the Supreme Court. Other presidents

(01:28:44):
in recent terms probably decided they didn't want the legal
or the political fight, but but Trump has taken it on.

Speaker 3 (01:28:52):
Jill, Yeah, thank you for joining us. Helio Shapiro, director
of Constitutional Studies at the Manhattan Institute. And I bet
Donald Trump has a list of it's the various agencies
he'd like to get rid of.

Speaker 1 (01:29:03):
Look, it's the man's brand, you're fired. I mean, how
to do this? This is in his wheelhouse? He can't
wait he can't wait a little and go you're a fire.
Oh that's gonna be said a few times.

Speaker 3 (01:29:14):
Yeah you're waiting. So all right, we have been broadcasting
today here a Minky Cotur and Layton. Time always flies.
We have so much fun, Lisa, and Lisa is back
with us to talk about these wonderful blankets. You were
saying just a second ago that for some people this
is almost a destination for them because they want to
come here and kind of buy as many blankets as

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they can.

Speaker 6 (01:29:37):
Yeah, it really is a destination shopping experience, right, And
we want to make sure that when you visit one
of our stores that's exactly what you have, is an experience, right.
We want you to feel valued and cared and appreciated.
And our sales associates are here to help walk you
through that shopping experience because shopping for a Mekikator blanket
it can be overwhelming, you know, we have so many

(01:29:57):
of variety and sizes and st and it's like, oh
where do I even begin? And and ourselves associates are
here ready to help you find the perfect gift for
your loved ones this holiday season.

Speaker 1 (01:30:08):
So today we saw a listener come in and purchase
thirteen and I needed some assistance on the way. Do
you have a record on how many have come in?
And how many blankets? Can you think? I didn't prepare
you for this question. Oh wow, thirteen seemed like a
pretty good number.

Speaker 6 (01:30:26):
Yeah, yes, especially like tonight. That was the record for
the night that guy holds it for. Yeah, I'm sure
for the night. I'm thinking like maybe for the week.

Speaker 1 (01:30:34):
I don't Yeah, that's a taller order, but I'm telling
you he's got thirteen people, very very happy.

Speaker 6 (01:30:41):
Yeah, we won't say his name because we don't want
to give away anyone.

Speaker 3 (01:30:46):
You have different sizes. What's the most popular size? Is
that the big one? The grande? Is it?

Speaker 6 (01:30:51):
Our Grande is a five by seven, so five feet
by seven feet, and then our monster size is a
five by six, so five ft by six feet. Our
Monster size is probably the most popular. But then at
the holidays it's you kind of I feel like Grande
Monster adult. It's it's all dependent upon like budget, and
that's what's great about men Kikator, right, like, we have

(01:31:13):
a gift for every budget. So whatever you're you know,
shopping for, whoever you're shopping you for, we can you
know you can find a gift here at Minkikator within
that budget.

Speaker 3 (01:31:22):
I can't tell you how many times now you go
to a movie and they have those relaxed chairs that
people enjoy, and they're bringing a blanket. And I could
tell the manky blankets why you can spot up bottom
they just curl up in the movie theater or watch
a movie. Yeah, the tour blanket.

Speaker 6 (01:31:36):
Everyone wants to take that comfort of menkikatur with them.

Speaker 3 (01:31:39):
All right, before we sign off, what's the offer tonight?
And it's good through the weekend?

Speaker 6 (01:31:42):
Good through the weekend. Yes, so our time here is
coming to an end, but the savings will continue through
the rest of the week, so you haven't missed anything.
But the discount code is ROD fifty five and it
will give you fifty five percent off any full priced
blankets in store or online, So.

Speaker 3 (01:31:58):
Any location, any store for online.

Speaker 6 (01:32:00):
Yep.

Speaker 1 (01:32:01):
And I want people to think about that. You've just
described the different size blankets that they can meet different budget.
I'm fifty five percent off really helps with that, Like incredibly,
everything becomes a lot affordable when you're talking fifty five percent.

Speaker 6 (01:32:13):
Yeah, it's like you're getting better than two for one
with that, you know what I mean.

Speaker 3 (01:32:17):
So at least it's been great. Yes, thank you, Thank you.
Guys are great. It's always have a good holiday you both,
all right? All right, final thoughts coming up on the
Rod and Greg Show and Utah's Talk Radio one O
five to nine kN RS.

Speaker 1 (01:32:31):
Radio one O five nine can r S and everywhere
on the iHeartRadio app. I'm citizen Greg Hughes.

Speaker 3 (01:32:35):
And I'm Rod Arcana. It's just been great today. It's
always fun being here at Minky Go Tour with our
wonderful listeners and the great people will work here. I mean,
you talk about an American success story. What Sandy has
been able to do is pretty amazing.

Speaker 1 (01:32:48):
It is it's it is a operation and they they
are just the number of stores they have and then
when you get online and you see how much how
many products are offering all over and it is it's
just it's great and and it is the og of
blankets in terms of uber comfort. There every there's been
some copycats since yes, I mean, he could tour got

(01:33:09):
on the scene, but they are the original and the best. Yeah,
it's fun, it's fun. A couple of stories.

Speaker 3 (01:33:15):
Before we wrap up, Greg tonight. I don't know what
gets into the some American people, Okay, because there's this
story out of Vermont where a school district there hoisted
a Somali flag on Friday as Democrats around the country
defended Smally migrants right next to the American flag. With
everything that's going on with the Somali immigrants in this

(01:33:37):
country and the alleged fraud that has taken place, why
does the school district feel it needs to do this.

Speaker 1 (01:33:44):
We're talking billions of dollars. There's no shame in it.
There's no shame in fact. What the reason they're doing
it is because it helps perpetuate how they get away
with this fraud. If you want to complain about what's
happened and how pervasive it is within that community in Minnesota,
by the way, then you're a racist. And you don't
you don't like like like Senator John Curtis says, you

(01:34:06):
just don't love as much as he does. You don't
hug as much as he does. You don't wake up
every day and think, how can I be there for
an immigrant as much as he does.

Speaker 3 (01:34:14):
That's true.

Speaker 1 (01:34:14):
That's all this is about. It's just about how how
you treat everyone and that that's the whole. There's no
complexity to the issue. That's just all it is. You
just get the virtue signal and everything solved.

Speaker 3 (01:34:25):
Yeah. You know, the media, the regime media as you
like to call them in this country, are doing everything
they can to discredit Donald Trump and anybody on his cabinet.
Would you agree? Story out today he's getting rid of
or thinking about getting rid of, Christy Nome Homeland Security
Secretary and possibly replacing her with Glenn Youngkin, who will

(01:34:47):
be out of a job as of January. Yeah, you know,
Governor of Virginia.

Speaker 1 (01:34:51):
It will be interesting. I've heard some I've heard some
chatter about the personality clash between Christy Nome uh and
Tom Homan from God, but I don't know so much.
You don't know if it's true. The media just likes
the jeet up. They've been trying to say that Jade
Vance and his wife are fighting all the time.

Speaker 3 (01:35:08):
Did you hear this one?

Speaker 1 (01:35:09):
Yeah, it's a bunch of such a soap opper. They're
just they just make stuff up, I'm telling you. And
instead of a grown man's business, if he's getting if
he's kind of a domestic going. I didn't leave the
man alone, give him some privacy. It's even true.

Speaker 3 (01:35:22):
I don't all that's been fun here of Nanking kochor
don't forget Rod fifty five and discounted good through the weekend.
Head up, Children's back and God bless you and your family.
The great back here our thankfully. Let's taking war back
tomorrow with for have a good even