The Rod and Greg Show: Why California is so different; Congressman Burgess Owens; "My Decade with Trump"

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Speaker 1 (00:00):
Well, welcome, folks. I love wing Men Wednesday for a
lot of reasons. But the other one is, you know,
I do feel like you're Maverick and on Goose. I
even have a T shirt now.

Speaker 2 (00:08):
I know you do. I like it.

Speaker 1 (00:10):
I own it.

Speaker 2 (00:11):
You don't wear it every day, fortunately because it stinks occasionally.
But let me tell you what. You know what I'm
concerned about, Greg, I don't know if we can keep
up with this guy. I mean, I think he's taking
he's taking off the aircraft carrier and he's going he's
going mock ten. Yeah, no, it's not Trump. I mean
he's doing things like you wouldn't believe.

Speaker 1 (00:30):
You know, And and it just shows that if you
have if your guy like Donald Trump, and there's not
many like him, but look at what you can do
as president of the United States with the executive branch,
with your your executive orders. If you're doing it for
and on behalf of the people, If you're doing it
for your your donors, you're doing it for your special interests.
You know, the America is not going to appreciate it.

(00:52):
In fact, we're going to resent it if we learn
about it. But what he is doing now people would
be hard pressed to say that isn't four and on
behalf of everyday Americans after what we've lived through. I mean,
he's taking all of these all of these foundational institutions
that have been deteriorated or destroyed over the last four
years and probably before then, and he is just repairing it.
He is getting rid of this DIEI he wants chromosomes

(01:15):
to carry the day. It's a man or a woman,
and he doesn't want to hear about any fluidity of gender, idea, ideology,
none of it. It's just common sense and I appreciate it.

Speaker 2 (01:26):
You know what I love about it, Greg, It seems
to me and I think they started planning this well
before the election in November exactly what they're going to do,
and he has implemented that planned step by step. There's
more to come, but in the first what two three
days now since he's been inaugurated president of the United States,
you can just see it unfolding. Every promise he made

(01:47):
to the American people so far he has fulfilled and
I think you're going to see that continue during his presidency.
I at least think during the first one hundred days.

Speaker 1 (01:56):
Well, I'll tell you this I've mentioned our listeners in
the past about the the number of accomplishments he was
able to do under durest of this Russian collusion hoax,
the fake dossier, even people in his administration working against him,
actively waking up every day trying to thwart him, with
him overcoming all of that, but he did a lot
even under all those circumstances. I will argue he did

(02:18):
more than people really even know. Give a take those
barriers out of his way and look out. I think
I do. I think that we are in for a
new revival. It's America is back, baby, Yeah, it is fact.

Speaker 2 (02:32):
We sure well. We hope you're back with us this
afternoon as you're driving home if you want to be
a part of the conversation, of course, eight eight eight
five seven zero eight zero one zero triple eight five
seven zero eight zero one zero, or on your cell
phone dial pound two fifteen and say hey Rod. Before
we go any further, we need to congratulate the President
and the first Lady of Milania. They are celebrating in

(02:53):
their twentieth wedding.

Speaker 1 (02:54):
Animal in that cute those crazy kids twenty years isn't
that cute?

Speaker 2 (03:00):
A few times to get that right, But hopefully he's got.

Speaker 1 (03:03):
I think I'm doing this whole marriage thing better than
he is. He's only at twenty years. I'm at thirty. Yeah,
you're I'm not. Don't say what because Rodeo Queen might
not want you to say.

Speaker 2 (03:11):
Fine. I think she's forty seven.

Speaker 1 (03:13):
Wow, you're three years shut of that golden fifty.

Speaker 3 (03:17):
Yeah.

Speaker 1 (03:17):
Man, that's that's impressive. Christa's parent, Queen Bee's parents. Are
they're up in that that realm, are they? Yeah? So
I think we're I think we're eclipsing the president in
that one uh, in that one area. He had a
couple of tries, didn't really work it out, but now
it looks like this one's sticking. And she she is
a lady. Oh, she's I just I will never get
out of my head that that inauguration after with that hat.

(03:40):
It is just classic gangster. I didn't even know you
could put the word classy and gangster in the same sentence,
but she has done it.

Speaker 2 (03:48):
Yeah, she's amazing. She sure has. They were married, like
I said, on this date, back in two thousand and
five January second, twenty twenty five, and had a big
party three hundred and fifty invited guest. Then I gets
two thousand and five. Yeah, yeah, okay, yeah, two thousand
and five. Did I say twenty twelve? No, two thousand
and five. But then they had a big party at
mar A Lago. It was described as a royal like

(04:09):
wedding reception. She wore a gown, a Christian to your gown.
I know you're in the fashion one hundred thousand dollars gown,
and now it was beautiful, and it was beautiful.

Speaker 1 (04:20):
That's for Biden's inflation, got ahold of it. I can't
even imagine what that trust it costs nowadays.

Speaker 2 (04:25):
But congratulations to him twentieth anniversary today. Oh well, there
what he got her?

Speaker 4 (04:29):
I don't know.

Speaker 2 (04:30):
I did he forget?

Speaker 1 (04:31):
You know he didn't forget. I can guarantee you that.
You know, we all thought she was just putting up
with him. Now we find out she's run the joint.
You can just tell she's the boss. But I tell
you I would tell him this. I honestly would if
it came up. I don't know if I'd volunteer this
observation just on my own, but this man is clearly
punching above his weight in terms of his spouse, and
he is out kicked his coverage.

Speaker 5 (04:50):
She is.

Speaker 1 (04:52):
Yeah, she's a classy gangster who knew and I think
he's pretty lucky to have her his first lady.

Speaker 2 (04:57):
Well, let's admit it, guys, aren't we all punching above
of our weight?

Speaker 1 (05:01):
Yes? I think I am. In fact, I know I am,
but you you know, you know I know, Yes I am,
I am, And so are you. Oh yeah, just looking
at me. I'm messing with She's the queen Rodeo queen.

Speaker 5 (05:16):
She sure is.

Speaker 2 (05:17):
All right, Uh, let's go the president. I love the
DEI thing today. I mean just say telling the federal
government get rid of it. We don't want it anymore.
As of what I think the end of the month
or February, all these programs are gone.

Speaker 1 (05:31):
Now let me ask you this, how does that impact state?
I hope the state does programs because aren't there some
in the state. I saw it. I saw an ex
post today that said that we might have some DEI
office in the governor's officers.

Speaker 2 (05:44):
Well, someone floated that out that the governor a couple
of years ago hired a DEI person three hundred thousand dollars.

Speaker 1 (05:51):
They started low, but they've they've gotten one hundred percent
or like a couple hundred percent raise increase over the years.
But I don't know. I just i've seen word of it.
I'm just wondering if the federal government's doing this with DEI,
what does that mean if there are DEI programs in
our state institutions of higher learning or in our executive branch?
Would that is it just you would feel awkward to

(06:11):
keep it if Trump's getting rid of it, or does
that just make it? I don't know that I'm thinking
out loud.

Speaker 2 (06:16):
I guess didn't state lawmakers last year and all DEI
at state offices.

Speaker 1 (06:22):
At the universities and college at universities and colleges, But
I don't know about the executive branch. But like I said,
I'm not sure with the executive branch. I heard that
that's the case, that's the word on the street, but
I don't know.

Speaker 5 (06:33):
Yeah. Yeah.

Speaker 2 (06:34):
The other thing that happened today that I absolutely love
greg is Marco Rubiu, Secretary of State, sending word throughout
the State Department this is going to be a different
run agency or department within and announcing that only the
American flag will fly at embassies and government facilities around
the corald. No more gay pride flags, no more Black

(06:55):
Lives Matter flags. It will be one flag and that
is the American flag. Ray, hooray, hooray.

Speaker 1 (07:01):
Yes, and it's even handed. So if you had a flag,
if you want, if you wanted other flags that you
thought were more patriotic, like it don't tread on me
flag or you know, the gads and flagged or whatever. No,
just just fly the American flag in the MBSC and
work out and call it good.

Speaker 5 (07:13):
Yeah.

Speaker 2 (07:13):
How hard can that be?

Speaker 5 (07:15):
Yeah?

Speaker 1 (07:15):
No, it's not hard, not hard to all.

Speaker 6 (07:17):
Oh.

Speaker 2 (07:17):
By the way, Abby had just had a an audio
sound bite in her newscast from President Trump sitting down
for the first time since becoming president. Was Sean Hannity.
I know Sean's getting a little grayer. I just don't
want to. I'll send him a note, say, Sean, either
go all great.

Speaker 1 (07:31):
But doesn't not get married. He's just got married. He's like,
he's not married.

Speaker 2 (07:34):
Ja, I think he's engaged.

Speaker 1 (07:35):
Did he get married even married yet? He was, but
he's got another one coming.

Speaker 2 (07:39):
Yeah, Ainsley, your heart and yeah, yeah, yeah.

Speaker 1 (07:41):
That's gonna make his hair grayer.

Speaker 2 (07:45):
But Sean Sean sat down with the President today and
the first question that he asked, which I think is
an interesting question, he asked of the President, what's it
like walking back into the Oval Office for a second time.

Speaker 7 (07:57):
Well, it was a lot of work, and as you know,
I felt that we shouldn't have had a necessarily be here.
Could have been done, A lot of work could have
been it would have been over. We wouldn't have inflation,
we wouldn't have had the Afghanistan disaster, we wouldn't have
October seventh with Israel or so many people were killed,
and you wouldn't have a Ukraine war going on. But

(08:21):
with all that being said, I think it's bigger. It's
bigger than if it were more traditional.

Speaker 5 (08:26):
You know.

Speaker 2 (08:26):
And I really wonder Greg, I really wonder on all
of this if he's better off coming back after Biden
instead of being there for eight three years.

Speaker 1 (08:36):
I think he is. I just think when you can
see and I don't like that we lived through all
that was just described by the President. But when you
it's no longer a theory. You know, these policies don't work.
You know these what they did has torn down this country.
It makes the case and I think it helped coalesce

(08:56):
support around Trump, even those that didn't even vote for Trump,
even as recently as November when he Wednsday prevails. I
think you're seeing a coalescing of Wow, can't beat him,
join him. I think I think that that is some
that is a that's a unity you wouldn't have had
in twenty twenty if he'd won his reelection.

Speaker 2 (09:12):
Got a lot to get to today on the show,
when we come back, we'll talk to the mom of
the USU student who was surprised who her resident assistant
was up to the campus. Yeah, you know this story,
you've heard about it. But we'll talk to the mom
involved in that coming up right here on the Rotting
Greg Show on This wing Man Wednesday, Great to be
with you. A couple of weeks ago, we had a
real interesting story about something that's going on up at

(09:33):
Utah State universityes Eric Mutso is a good friend of ours,
good friend of the show, shared with us information that
he heard her a mom was very concerned about her
daughter who was being forced apparently to share a dorm
room with a resident assistant with a guy who thinks
she's a woman. And Eric was contacted by this girl's

(09:54):
mother and expressing concern about it, and she is joining
us on our newsmaker line. Right now. Let us welcome
Cheryl Salzman to the Rod and Greg Show. Cheryl, how
are you and thanks for joining us this afternoon. How
are you doing?

Speaker 8 (10:07):
I'm good. Thank you so much. I appreciate you having
me on here.

Speaker 2 (10:11):
Well, Cheryl, tell us give people a little bit of
a background as to what exactly happened and what you
did when you learned about what was going on up
at Jujah State.

Speaker 8 (10:21):
Okay, yeah, so, oh my goodness, it feels like a
million years ago now and it was just a couple
of weeks. But my daughter messaged me from college. It
was her, She just had finished up her first semester
there at Utah State, and she messaged me before she

(10:41):
came home for Christmas, and she said, Mom, I think
a man pretending to be a woman just moved into
my dorm and she didn't really get a good look.
She was trying to get out of way because a
couple of people were like moving in and they were
holding boxes. They never introduced themselves. She came home, she
stressed about it and was just beside herself. The entire

(11:04):
Christmas break like she knew things were off. She just
knew it wasn't right, and I blew her off. I
didn't believe it. I didn't. I didn't think she was lying.
I just really felt like she had to be mistaken
because not in a million years did I think that
Utah State would put her in that situation. Yeah, sure enough,

(11:26):
when she has back, sorry.

Speaker 1 (11:28):
Go ahead please, So that so she.

Speaker 8 (11:33):
Went back that Thursday and she messaged me. She said, Mom,
I think a man moved into my apartment. I really do.
And I said, are you sure? And she said no,
I think he like walked by her room or whatever.
And so I said, have you talked to your roommates
because there were two other girls left? So it just

(11:56):
happens to be the dorm suite or the little dorm
apartments of the resident assistant, and the resident assistant that
they had the first semester had moved out as well
as her bedroom mate. There's three bedrooms in this tiny
dorm suite for six girls, but this particular suite, just

(12:18):
for whatever reason, is chosen to be for the resident assistant.
So I said, did you there were two girls in
the other room that had stayed as well, and I said,
did you message them and asked them what they know?
And she said no. So my husband and I that

(12:40):
night were looking over the website just being a this
was like what their policy states and whatnot, and that's
when we read about the.

Speaker 9 (12:50):
Inclusive housing option that they have. So so anyway, it
wasn't till Friday morning. The school was about to start
that Monday Friday morning, he message. He said, yes, so
I So my roommate got back to me and she
told me that she had, in fact had a conversation

(13:11):
with this man's mom about how he was transitioning and whatnot.
And so I said that instantly I was just like
in shock and just.

Speaker 8 (13:22):
Went into full blown Yeah, full blown we're getting you know, like,
let's fix this. We were getting you out. That was
my number one. Get her out, get her somewhere safe,
get her somewhere where, you know, get her out of there.

Speaker 1 (13:38):
So sure, I have all, But my question, Cheryl is
this because look, I'm a dad. My son goes to
Utah State University and I can't thank you enough for
being courageous and this is a very They're trying to
make this a very uncomfortable topic and issue. They're trying
to shame people out of discussing this, so people are
not talking about it. And you have been undaunted, and

(13:58):
I appreciate that as a fellow, as a parent, I
appreciate your courage in this. My question is, is this gentleman?
Because I've seen the floor plan and they share a
bathroom with he shares a bathroom with young ladies and
a kitchen. Has that been resolved? You were able to
remove your your daughter from this situation, but are other
students having to live in those close quarters with this

(14:21):
with this man?

Speaker 8 (14:24):
Yes, yes, yes, you're First of all, you're absolutely right
about the manipulation and this really emotional abuse. Really they're
playing on these girls. They're playing on their emotions because
you know, especially girls, we tend to be more empathetic
and nurturing, and they're weaponizing those traits against them to

(14:49):
infiltrate their spaces because whyre is the empathy for the girls?
And yes, there are two girls that never ended up leaving.
But think about this, he's already moved in. Now you're
you're going to be feeling like you're a bigot, you're
a transphobe, you're all the things right, you know, and

(15:10):
and you don't want to move, or you don't have
the resources to move, and you don't want to deal
with it, and and you're scared of the repercussions. You
know what I'm saying, Like, that's the situation. They put
these girls in, and another girl I've heard also had
been moved in after my daughter left. And I guarantee

(15:31):
zero consent, zero forewarning, nothing unless they you know.

Speaker 2 (15:40):
I would imagine Cheryl, you reached out to the university
and say, what's going on here? What was their initial
response to it? No big deal, don't worry about it
as part of our policy. What did they say, Yes,
it is.

Speaker 8 (15:50):
They said it is discrimination to not provide housing based
on gender identity. This was a very rehearsed They are
very trained, very well on how to talk to you.
Their hands are tight, apparently because it would be discrimination
to not allow this man, if he says he's a girl,

(16:13):
to allow him into this girl's space.

Speaker 1 (16:16):
The only thing I can say to that is with
these recent executive orders by President Trump where he is
defining men and women by their chromosomes, and we're not
doing the gender fluidity any longer. I wonder if that,
if that line of discrimination is going to hold, at
least not federally, I don't think it can so, but
I thank you again, thank you so much for standing
up and being heard. I will tell you I'm gonna

(16:37):
when we go to the next break, I'm going to
read some of the The Tribune says that you know
that this this gentleman, that this resident assistance received a
lot of hate. There's a ton of hate band Throne
and I'm sure you've seen it too that I've seen
Eric Mutsos's screenshots and they're just it's.

Speaker 2 (16:54):
Yeah, Cheryl, hang in there, Cheryl, hang in there, keeping
up is Cheryl. Thank you again and keep us up
to date as to how this story progresses. Thank you.

Speaker 8 (17:06):
I will thank you, thank you, Thank you. Appreciate it.

Speaker 2 (17:08):
All right. That's Cheryl Saltzman, mother of a USU student
who found herself in a very uncomfortable situation up at
the Logan School. More coming up right here on the
Rod and Greg Show and Talk Radio one O five
to nine knrs. With all the attention being focused on
California again, a lot of people are saying, what is
wrong with California? What is going on in California, right

(17:30):
where we begin. Well, joining us on our newsmaker line
to talk about this is Jennifer Graham. She is the
ideas and culture editor there at the Desrat News. Always
great to have Jennifer on the show. Jennifer, you're right
about asking the question can this state, meaning California, be saved?

Speaker 5 (17:45):
Now?

Speaker 2 (17:46):
A lot of people who go to California and visit
Greg does I do quite often always kind of come
back saying, great place to visit, but we wouldn't want
to live there. A lot of people say that, don't.

Speaker 10 (17:56):
They Isn't that funny? And it's it's also funny because
it comes from a man who has lived in California
for thirty years. So even people who live there go,
you know, I don't know, maybe they are other better places,
but yeah, I mean, it's a really interesting dynamic with California.
And I want to say, first off, maya heart goes

(18:17):
out to the people affected by the fires in California.
I actually started working on this story in December and
it was finished and ready to be published before the
first fire broke out, and we decided to hold it
because the timing just was so bad and I hear
there's a new fire broken out today, so yeah, I mean,

(18:38):
I don't want to make fun of California too much. However,
there are many things about California that make those of
us who live in other places a little bit perplexed sometimes.
And that's what I was trying to get at with
this article, is how California went from how it was seen,
say in the nineteen fifties, in nineteen six sees as

(19:01):
you know, the Golden State literally and now it's in
many ways kind of a punchline for America, particularly if
you spend any time on conservative social media like I do.

Speaker 1 (19:13):
You know, all the story everything you shared in your
article are things that are familiar and that I remember,
but I have not really seen it encapsulated in one article.
So you know, there's a saying that you put the
frog in the in the in the water and the
water gets hotter until it's boiled. They don't notice the difference.
I felt like that was the boiling water as I
read all of the things, all the challenges even with

(19:33):
parents and their kids at schools, and then you have
everything else that you described in there in terms of
California not making sense. Does something like these fires, kitchen
table issues instead of luxury issues that seem to be
carrying the day in California. Is there going to be
a political shift? What do you see as a future
for that state that used to be, like you described,
once great state. What's their future look like?

Speaker 10 (19:56):
Well, Greg, you know, there's a lot of talk now
about politicians not surviving these fires, and Gavin Newsom, of
course is the number one person that comes to mind
in this. There are also these local officials in Los Angeles,
the mayor, the fire chief, other people who are responsible,
according to some for the devastation being as bad as

(20:18):
it was. So I mean, that's going to be interesting
to see how this lays out over time. And I
don't know that any of us outside of California can
really speculate on that. But what happened with this is
it brought California into the spotlight, perhaps before it was ready,
and I think I used the line California was not
ready for its close up, you know, which is kind

(20:40):
of a joke. But at the same time, the wildfires
and the devastation exposed some policies that perhaps needed more scrutiny,
and some politicians may indeed pay the Price in the
next couple of years, Jennifer.

Speaker 2 (20:57):
Has California always been thought of as being weird? I
mean I can think of the late sixties and everything
that happened to California then, but as that state always
been considered kind of a it's just weird in California.

Speaker 10 (21:10):
Well, I mean, that's why there's California Psychics, right. I
don't know if you hear those ads like I do.

Speaker 1 (21:16):
I hear them.

Speaker 10 (21:16):
All the time, and I do wonder why why is
it that, you know, the people who run California Psychics
think that they have customers on the Megan Kelly podcast,
but they must have some I don't know, but yeah,
I mean that's been part of the California dream, right,
I mean there is a California dream that is distinct

(21:38):
from the American dream. In that California dream is the
American dream, only it's warmer and sunnier, and you don't
have to work as hard, and you know, people just
kind of do their own thing out there. That's that
has been an image of California for for a long time.
It still is, even though when you bear out of

(21:59):
the numbers it is It's really interesting to me looking
at say the presidential though last year obviously Kamala Harris
one California, But if you look at a map county
by county, it was very blue on the coast by
the water, and on the other side of the state
it was very red. So as one of the people

(22:20):
that I spoke with talked about that there are a
lot of very distinct, very different parts of California. I
think there's a book called The Southern Californias that talks
about how those of us who don't live there don't
really understand that they're just multiple communities, multiple states within
a state, and that perhaps we are not doing California

(22:43):
justice when we lump it all as one crazy es
any place, because there are pockets of California that look
like the rest of the.

Speaker 2 (22:50):
Country in sanity.

Speaker 10 (22:53):
Well, I didn't want to say that, because.

Speaker 1 (22:58):
We say it, we'll say it. So I think I
love that description. You know, the western side of California,
the coast, and then you have the eastern side. But
it's also interesting to see because of an electric college.
You really don't see a lot of dollars from a
Trump campaign, say spending or trying to win even the
state of California because they think it's so they're not
really the grassroots the effort in campaigning in those states

(23:19):
don't look anything like a swing state. So it's to
see the kind of popularity that Trump had in California
says a lot. Let me ask you this first time.
I think in Census Bureau history that the population year,
you know, ten years, every decade going down in California
for the first time, a smaller population than they had
ten years prior in the last census. So you have this,

(23:40):
you have the people leaving. If you go down to
Washington County in Utah, I would call those political refugees.
These are people that are probably more conservative. They are
tired of where they live, that be a California, Oregon,
or Washington, and they've moved to southern Utah. Other Californians
we've heard kind of bring their politics with them as
they leave that state. What do you think is going

(24:01):
to happen. Are we going to see the population of
California shrink? And what kind of migration are Californians going
to bring to a state like Utah or other states
if in fact they do leave like they've been doing.

Speaker 10 (24:12):
So far well as you point out they have the
Californians have already infiltrated Utah. And I got an email
from somebody who lives in Park City who left California
for a lot of the reasons that I talked about
in the article, and he said that, you know, there's
full on migration in Park City, that there's like the

(24:33):
little enclave of ex California residents there, so you know
they're living among us. But interestingly enough, Idaho was cited
by one of the analysts that I spoke to as
a hotbed for outward migration from California that when they
look at the number of people who have moved into

(24:54):
Idaho in the past ten years, there's a greater percentage
of people coming from California than any where else in
the country, which I find really interesting. And as you
point out, I mean, there's concern by people in the
states to where Californians are moving that they're not only
going to be bringing their politics with them, perhaps trying

(25:16):
to turn spread states purple, but they're also going to
drive up prices because they're bringing money from California. You know,
they're they're saving money, and you know they're saving money
by escaping the high home costs, the high taxes that
they have in California, and then they're investing it in
new communities, which ostensibly would cause home values to go

(25:38):
up in those communities. I don't know that it's the
right ahead.

Speaker 1 (25:42):
We need to build a wall and make California pay
for it. What do you say? Can we do this?
We can't have these home prices go up anymore. We
just can't. It's just going up too much this interview.
I'm waiting to turn a corner on this discussion, are we.
I'm looking for the silver lining here. I'm not getting it.

Speaker 10 (25:58):
I want you to know, I'm very jealous that I
did not come up with that line, because I would
have written that, and they all.

Speaker 8 (26:04):
Thought of it.

Speaker 1 (26:06):
Well, I feel it. I'm just feeling it in real time.
Jennifer Graham.

Speaker 10 (26:11):
I would note that although California has been losing residents
over the past decade or more, they did have an
uptick between July of twenty twenty three and July twenty
twenty four. They actually gained a little more than two
hundred thousand residents. So California supporters are saying, well, they've

(26:31):
turned the corner.

Speaker 1 (26:33):
Jennifer Graham. I should hope so they can all go
back from whence they came. I say thank you for
joining us on the program. Ideas and Culture editor from
the Deseret News, thank you for joining us. We'll be
back after this break. You're listening to Talk Radio one
of five to nine Canteract.

Speaker 2 (26:48):
Well, guess what happened today? What authorities arrested four men
who are accused of breaking into the home. There are
four Chilean nationals in the country illegally who've been arrested
for alleged involvement in the burglary of Joe Burrow's home.

Speaker 1 (27:02):
You know what's scary about that is that they're not
dummies anyways on away gain. So it's not like they're just,
you know, just not paying attention. But they got busted.
How did they know it was them?

Speaker 2 (27:10):
But through really good investigation. Well apparently they found some
gear in their car, like an old LSU jersey and
a couple of LSU related and they put two and
two together when uha, we have a suspect.

Speaker 1 (27:23):
Well, I'll tell you what I the regime media, they
know no bounds. The New York Times is very concerned
that that Trump labeling Cartel's terrorists could hurt the US economy.
Now you ask yourself, how could labeling them terrorists hurt
the US economy? Well, turns out, according to The New
York Times, these criminal groups operate in sectors like agriculture

(27:45):
and tourism, which could leave some American businesses vulnerable to sanctions.
When the mob was running New York City, I didn't
hear anyone say, you know, this is going to really
undermine garbage collection. Now I don't you know. I don't
know if the construction industry and in the concrete industry
is going to survive if you go after the organized
crime in New York City. Is that insane?

Speaker 2 (28:03):
Yeah, that's really insane. All right, when we come back
dealing with the outspoken bishop, we'll get into that and
get some of your thoughts coming up. Great to be
with you on this Wingman Wednesday. It's the Rod R. F.
Kevin and Greg Hughes show. Head down the highway. Well,
we'll take you to church in a minute, because we
want to let you hear what this liberal episcopal bishop

(28:25):
had to say during the National Prayer Service yesterday. We'll
get into that and get your reaction to it. It's
pretty amazing. We want to get your calls on that.
But before we do that, Greg Greg Guttfeld, who has
a very popular show now on Fox and as part
of the Five, went off yesterday. I mean, he just
went off. He basically has had enough of liberal co

(28:46):
host Jessica Tarlov, the shenanigans about the second Trump administration,
the slew of executive orders that have virtually undone everything
Joe Biden did well. Apparently he had it yesterday when
she talked about birthright citizenship, something we spoke about yesterday,
and he basically said he's had enough.

Speaker 11 (29:03):
Americans voted for Donald Trump because they saw these systems,
these institutions being gamed, the asylum issue, the birthright citizen issue,
Title nine issues, every single part of society was being
gained by the left, and finally Americans.

Speaker 2 (29:21):
Got pushed too far.

Speaker 1 (29:22):
They don't think.

Speaker 11 (29:23):
The point is you don't have to like everything in
the restaurant to like the restaurant. There are things I
go to a restaurant.

Speaker 1 (29:29):
I don't need any seafood, but I.

Speaker 11 (29:31):
Like that restaurant because it's got steak. There are things
that Trump will do that I will disagree with. But
the entire package is as close as you're going to
get to what Americans want. Trump is redefining basically what
a human being can do in twenty four hours.

Speaker 2 (29:47):
It's incredible.

Speaker 11 (29:47):
He did more in a day than Biden did in
his damn career.

Speaker 2 (29:53):
I love gettfield Man, and he's right. Americans are sick
of the left gaming the system, and that's exactly what
they've done when it comes to illegal immigration.

Speaker 1 (30:02):
They have that, I mean everything. They've taken every as
he said, every legal federal law, you name it. They
have twisted it, gamed it so that it would just
further their social engineering agenda to the point where you
just would be better off not having any of it
than to have to let them continue to gain it

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the way they are.

Speaker 2 (30:23):
Much of the discussion around the country today has to
deal with this liberal bishop who really got controlled the
president and the first Lady and the Vice President and
his wife. Yesterday, during the National Prayer Service at the
National Cathedral, the bishop our name is let me get
to her name here, Mary and Bud I believe is
how her name is pronounced. But she took time during

(30:45):
her remarks at this National Prayer service to kind of
read the Riot Act to Joe Biden or to Donald Trump.
Let's what she had to say during her service.

Speaker 12 (30:56):
In the name of our God, I ask you to
have mercy upon the people in our country. We are
scared now. There are gay, lesbian, and transgender children in Democratic,
Republican and independent families, some who fear for their lives.

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And the people, the people who pick our crops and
clean our office buildings, who labor in poultry farms and
meat packing plants, who wash the dishes after we eat
in restaurants, and work the night shifts in hospitals. They
they may not be citizens or have the proper documentation,

(31:43):
but the vast majority of immigrants are not criminals. They
pay taxes and our good neighbors. They are faithful members
of our churches and mosques, synagogues, widara and temples. I
ask you to have mercy, mister President, on those in

(32:03):
our communities whose children fear that their parents will be
taken away, and that you help those who are fleeing
war zones and persecution in their own lands to find
compassion and welcome here.

Speaker 2 (32:17):
This was supposed to be greg a service of unification,
bring the country together. Yet she just couldn't hold back
and decided to go after the President and saying everybody
is scared because of some of your policies.

Speaker 1 (32:28):
Well, here, let me just break down a little bit
what she said, because this is where the left they're
so extreme they don't even hear themselves. There's a level
of that they don't have any self awareness. When she
rattles off all these professions or these jobs agriculture, you know,
washing dishes, why does she assume that every one of

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those jobs would be would be held by an illegal immigrant?
Why would you describe a job of a maybe it's
unskilled labor, whatever she's trying to say, and attach a
residency legal or illegal to it. And then she's just
assuming that if you're working in those in those fields,
you must be here illegally. I'll tell you why she
does it because she doesn't think, and I've heard this

(33:11):
from the left all the time, well who's going to
do the jobs? Who's going to do the jobs that
Americans don't want to do? You know who? She used
to say that the slave owners. Yep, okay, I'm I'm
telling you. They said, well who's to who's going to
do the agriculture if we don't have slave we can't
we can't pay, we can't do that. Who's going to
do the jobs? They are arguing for? An underclass, an
underclass of people who will be paid under market, who

(33:34):
will do all the jobs? She just rattled off and
assumed only illegals would do, can do, and can do.
And she likes that. She likes the underclass to stay
under class. She doesn't want legal citizenship. She wants to
preserve this illegal immigrant, this illegal immigrant class.

Speaker 2 (33:50):
Well, is this any different? And we played this audio
sound by yesterday of Gail King from CBS News observing
during the inauguration ceremony. I don't see a lot of
black people in the crowd. Yeah, you know, I don't
see a lot of black people here at this celebration.
Did Martin Luther King talk about the content of their
character and not the color of their skin? But isn't
that what Yale King did? And is that what this

(34:11):
bishop is doing in this in these remarks to the president.

Speaker 5 (34:14):
Yeah?

Speaker 1 (34:14):
Well, you know, last time I looked at a Republican
or a Democrat primary stage, I didn't see a ton
of diversity up there either. You got Joe Biden over here,
you've got you got, yeah, Hillary Clinton, before that you had.
I mean, they are just they are so obsessed with that.
But I am going to tell you there is a
there is a soft bigotry. And when I say soft,
barely soft, it's pretty hard. I think where she takes

(34:35):
jobs and says that the people doing them are illegals
and their children are afraid. Who are you to say
that those people there are not legally There aren't American
born or Americans doing those jobs. And if she suggests
that the only way those jobs will ever be done
is if you have an underclass of hidden people that
have no would have to commit identity theft to be

(34:55):
able to have any standing in this country, and she's
advocating for that, yeah, then she's at vocating for slavery.
As far as I'm concerned, who's making the children afraid?
It's their parents, yeah, or people like this lady.

Speaker 2 (35:06):
People like this lady. It's not what is going on
in the country. It's parents telling their children this man
is coming after it. He's going to take your mommy
and daddy away from you. That's what's making them scary.

Speaker 1 (35:17):
And I'll tell you this too. If you, as a
parent I've heard a member of law enforcement tell me this,
if you're as a parent, bring your child into an
atmosphere where something illegal is going on, where the consequence
of the parent's behavior could be that they are detained
or arrested and that child is there. They don't just
cast a blind eye to the crime and say, well,
you have a kid with you, so we're just gonna
let you go on your way. That child, that poor

(35:39):
child is wrapped up in Who do we call? Who
do we notify because the parent has done something illegal.
If you've done something illegal, don't bring your kids. Don't
put your kids in that situation. You shouldn't do it.
I am telling you that the people that advocate for
this underclass of people that have to committed any theft
to have any standing in our country. That is not humane.

Speaker 5 (35:58):
Yeah.

Speaker 2 (35:59):
Well, she has been a very long time critic of
Donald Trump. As a matter of fact, during the I
think it was a BLM riots a couple of years ago,
she was calling for his removal from office. So she
has been a longtime critic of Donald Trump. My question, then,
is greg who decided that she would be the main
speaker at this national prayer?

Speaker 1 (36:17):
Now can we do something. Can we can we do
work here? I mean, I mean of all the people,
all the spirit mean we had at the first day
of the legislative session in the House. This prayer was
such a great prayer. The gentleman that offered the prayer
up was great. There's just so many spiritual people in
our country to have a great sermon from all different faiths.
And I just can't believe this is where. This is

(36:40):
the short straw they all drew. They had to go
to this one. Or she just wants to make the
whole thing political.

Speaker 2 (36:45):
Well guess where she showed up today. She was on
the View today and we'll let you hear what she
had to say. And the President's Treasury Secretary nominee, who
by the way is gay, yes, rips into her today
and we'll let you hear what he had to say.
So we've got a lot to get to and I
think it was so out of place, it was very inappropriate.

(37:05):
I think we should get our listener phone calls and
see what they have to say on this today. This
was not the place to do what she did. And
like you said, Greg, they will take every opportunity. They
have no shame. They will take every opportunity to demean
the president and the one seventy million people who voted
for the guy. Yeah, they'll take every opportunity to do it,
even at a national prayer service. It's amazing your calls

(37:29):
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Speaker 2 (38:18):
It's coming your way. Well, if you're just joining us now,
we're talking about this, this new star for the progressive
community in this country. We're talking about the liberal Episcopalian
bishop who kind of read the Riot Act to Donald
Trump yesterday during the National Prayer Service, calling on the
president to be more compassionate and have mercy on illegal
aliens in the LGBT community.

Speaker 1 (38:39):
Who is going to clean her house?

Speaker 2 (38:40):
Yeah, good point. And I tell you what the president,
very upset said. You know, she owes an apology to
him and to the rest of the nation for what
she did. I think, and I think you agree with me.
I think it was very out of line. It was
very inappropriate. This is a national prayer service, and she
admitted this is a service of unity. Well, what she

(39:02):
did I don't think was very unified.

Speaker 1 (39:04):
And the way you would know is if you just
flip the script, if you put a Democrat president in there,
and you had a and you had an ecclesiastical leader
lecturing or preaching politics to that Democrat president, that is
opposite that they think is opposite from what they're doing
and saying, show mercy President Biden show mercy, President Obama.

(39:25):
The media would would say, what you're saying. They'd say
that it's it's inappropriate for that ecclesiastical leader to politicize
that moment, especially when it's under the banner of unity.
Are you kidding me?

Speaker 2 (39:34):
That's what it was all about? All right? We want
to get your phone calls on this was she out
of line? I think she was eight eight eight five
seven eight zero one zero, or on your cell phone,
dal pound two fifty and say hey, Rod to the
phones we go. We begin with Judy in Sunset tonight
here on the rod In Greg Show. Judy, how are you?
Thanks for joining us.

Speaker 13 (39:52):
I'm good, Hi, gentleman, Hew, are you well?

Speaker 2 (39:55):
We're doing well?

Speaker 13 (39:57):
Okay, Well, I.

Speaker 10 (39:58):
Do have a comment.

Speaker 13 (39:59):
I'm sure it's like every bbody else, But when I
was watching that, I was almost purple from being so
angry and for what she was saying and how she
was saying it, I honestly felt, and I still do
that I wished the family had stood up and left

(40:19):
and that would give the Dems really something to talk about.
But how how, oh my god, I can't even think
how cool, ignorant, inappropriate that was for them to sit through,
and I wish they would have stood up and left.

Speaker 2 (40:36):
You know, I wondered what the reaction would have been
in the country if Donald Trump and his whole family
would have done what you were suggesting, Judy, just stand
up and walk out.

Speaker 13 (40:44):
I can guarantee, I can guarantee you that, just like
everything else, half of the country would be cheering right,
the other half would be going the other half would
be going, oh my gosh, I can't believe this.

Speaker 14 (40:58):
Why did they do that?

Speaker 13 (40:59):
Well, really, look at the ant that they put up
there on the podium. She looked just like an insect.

Speaker 2 (41:08):
I think I think she was just so out of line.
And she talked about she was on the View today
and if we get a chance, we'll play what she
said on the View today. But she said she did
this because.

Speaker 1 (41:17):
Of unity, not these words meaning these people anymore. Let's
go to Scott in West Jordan. Scott, Welcome to the
Riding Greg Show.

Speaker 15 (41:29):
Yes, boy, I was happened to tune into that was listing,
did not hit it at the introduction. I somehow was
lucky enough to get that rebew she was trying to
get to the president, and I just thought who is
this woman? And without even no one. I told my

(41:50):
wife this morning, I bet that was an episcopal person,
because I have noticed that that is the far slip
leaning portion of what's termed as the Christian Church. And
actually there was a great Christian singer named Keith Green
and he made a statement once he says, just going

(42:13):
to McDonald's doesn't make you a hamburger, and I think
it applies to her.

Speaker 2 (42:17):
All right, Scott, thank you for your comment. Matter of fact,
I just saw this graphic on one of our monitors
here in the studio is on the Laura Ingram Show.
Attendance to the Episcopalian church in the Washington DC area
down twenty percent over the last three years. Of course,
people are saying, we don't want this is not what
we come to church for, is radicalized views as to
what's going on in the country. We come to church

(42:39):
to be uplifted, yes, you know, to grow closer to
our God. Yet here they are critical of half the country.

Speaker 1 (42:46):
I'd imagine you got two types. Havethen's and I want
to go to church, and then you got those I
want to go to church and get better, And then
they're hearing from what sounds like a very polarizing political
you know, brow And I don't think it's what they
signed up for. I don't think it's what you sign
up for when you go to church. But you know,
you know, just like you said, with this view on

(43:07):
the View, she's going to be a hero.

Speaker 2 (43:08):
She's going to be the star.

Speaker 1 (43:10):
You know who's gonna love her. People don't go to church, Yeah,
they don't even I'm telling you. They only use church
when it's convenient for them to push it out there,
if it's attacking their opponents, people they want to attack.

Speaker 2 (43:22):
She was on CNN last night, she was on the
View today, she was on Morning Joe today. Here you go,
the left has a star of the day, and it
is this episcopalion.

Speaker 1 (43:33):
So faithful you how could Trump say that she didn't
do a very good job to a member of the cloth.
You know, I just said, oh my goodness, this is
the worst thing.

Speaker 2 (43:42):
Yeah yeah, sure, all right when we come back on
the Rod and Greg Show, we'll let you hear what
she had to say on the View today. And the
President's Treasury secretary nominee is lighting her up. Wait to
hear what he had to say. That's all coming up
right here on the Rod and Greg Show and Utah's
Talk Radio one oh five nine knrs. Six thirty to
almost seven o'clock and we'll carry that live tomorrow night.

(44:04):
You've been there for a few of those, haven't you.
I have the years?

Speaker 1 (44:06):
Yeah?

Speaker 2 (44:07):
At was it all? Or was it John Huntsman too?

Speaker 1 (44:10):
I know? Just Gary Herbert?

Speaker 2 (44:11):
Just Gary Herbert for you?

Speaker 1 (44:12):
And yeah, but didn't you serve like eighty years in
the state legislature?

Speaker 7 (44:16):
You?

Speaker 5 (44:16):
Yeah?

Speaker 2 (44:17):
How many years were you there?

Speaker 1 (44:18):
I was there sixteen?

Speaker 2 (44:19):
Okay, yeah, well the governor every year? So did you
get sixteen versions?

Speaker 1 (44:23):
I thought you meant as a speaker? Speaker I get
to sit behind there where I get to see the
back of the Governor's head and I get to see
there you make a prompter? No, you know what you
go to You can't look at your phone because you're
on TV. You say, you really got to remember you're
on TV. So Queen Bee, she'd say, give me that
phone right now, didn't even let me have it. Did
you look at the faces of the lawmakers? So yeah?

Speaker 2 (44:42):
Did you ever catch any of them falling asleep? Oh?

Speaker 1 (44:44):
Yeah?

Speaker 2 (44:47):
Would you like the name?

Speaker 1 (44:48):
Well, we invite the Senate to sit in that chambe
so the you know what you think about that? Yeah,
they're all slow, they're all sleep so but no, but
I get to read the speech while he's giving it.
And then it would say applause, and then you'd wait
for someone and he had a staffer Mike Mauer, Gary
Herbert did they would just start to clapping, you know,
he'd start to just to get it going to the
script set applause right here. But yeah, I've been to

(45:10):
some of those.

Speaker 2 (45:10):
Yeah, yeah, yeah, Well let me read uh the The
nominee for Treasury Secretary under Donald Trump had a thing
or two to say today about this Episcopalian bishop who
read the riot out right. Basically, his name, let me
get his name right. His name is Treasury secretary. Why
doesn't this have his name on it? It's best end right?

(45:34):
He said this what he said today, she disgraced herself
with a lecture you'd hear on CNN or an episode
of the View. What an embarrassment. She whipped up fear
claiming gay, lesbian, and transgender children are in danger from Trump,
and some fear for the lives. Trump is not endangering
their lives yet this might actually make them think their

(45:57):
lives are in danger. And he went on to say,
you know, hey, he let loose on her. It's his name,
by the way, is Scott Besend. He demanded that she
apologized to the president. This is what he said. He said,
is right. Look at this, he said, I am gay.
You know Bess is gay. And he said blasted her

(46:17):
attempt to selfishly steal the spotlight and said, why am
I being you know, on the president's cabinet. I'm gay.
He's not discriminating against me.

Speaker 1 (46:28):
And the man has received more minority votes for Republican
candidate for president than anyone since Eisenhower the fifties. So
you picked the wrong guy to say that he's racist
or whatever. And in fact, no one's buying any of
that anymore. They really have rejected it. It is really
remarkable for Republican candidate to win the popular vote when

(46:48):
you consider that one county in California, which they don't
even campaign in because they're never going to win the state.
They don't send one red scent of campaign money into
that into that that state at all. One county's bigger
than in all but six states in America. So the
the the numbers for a popular voter really against the
Republican candidate. He still want it, and yet they're still

(47:10):
doing this. By the way, speaking of California, because you know,
we did this great interview with a local des retor.
I'm talking about all the problems of California, and I
know that the California monitors this show. I mean, because
we haven't been nice about California. We've been calling him out,
calling him out. Now, well, I look online. They have
a huge fire.

Speaker 2 (47:27):
Now they named a fire after it.

Speaker 1 (47:29):
Very petty, I think, very vindictive. I've never seen a
huge fire. I see like names of palisades or whatever,
but I don't see huge. Now there's a huge fire,
and now I got to hear my name the fire
with fire.

Speaker 2 (47:40):
Yeah, well you are a bit of a fire brand.

Speaker 1 (47:42):
It's rude.

Speaker 8 (47:42):
I think.

Speaker 1 (47:42):
I think they're being I think the whole state's being petty.

Speaker 2 (47:45):
Back to the phones as we go, as we talk
about the remarks of this Episcopalian bishop, Tom is joining
us from Jamesville, Wisconsin. I believe that's right now, Nice Tom,
how are you, Tom? Welcome to the Rod and Gregg
showing we're doing well, what do you do the pick.

Speaker 14 (48:02):
Well, actually I'm a Harriman right now, but I'm from Jeansville.

Speaker 2 (48:05):
Okay.

Speaker 4 (48:07):
I listened to you.

Speaker 14 (48:08):
Guys once in a while at iHeart and I listened
to Uh there's a station out of Milwaukee at the
Conservative show.

Speaker 5 (48:16):
Host Hanna o'donald w I s n w I s
n he's.

Speaker 6 (48:22):
Unhinged liberal of the day.

Speaker 14 (48:25):
I'm sure that the unhinged liberal of the day is
this episcopal minister that was amonishing our wonderful new.

Speaker 2 (48:35):
President, was it, Tom? I just thought it was way
out of line. I mean she, I mean, this is
a national prayer service about unity, and she did anything
but unify the country with her remarks. Agree, well, I agree.

Speaker 6 (48:50):
You know, when you're going for you.

Speaker 14 (48:54):
Want to be uplifted and have a moral basis for
your life and all that, and she just threw it
out the window.

Speaker 2 (49:02):
Yeah, she sure did. Be safe.

Speaker 1 (49:06):
Hey, keep listening to Wisconsin. We we need more listeners
from Wisconsin.

Speaker 6 (49:10):
We do.

Speaker 1 (49:10):
Thanks for listening to the show.

Speaker 2 (49:14):
All right, that's dumb from Jamesville. Wesconsin. Don't know where
Jamesville is, but he said he's here working, but he
listens to us when he's in town.

Speaker 1 (49:21):
I love it and iHeartRadio.

Speaker 2 (49:23):
I heart radio app, which by the way, you should
download is a great new app. Now, as I mentioned
she was, she's now the star of the day for
liberal media right in this country. So she showed up
on the View today and she explained about this service
that was supposed to be unifying and why she thought
her message was in fact unifying.

Speaker 12 (49:42):
My responsibility that morning, yesterday morning, was to reflect, to
pray with the nation for unity. And as I was
pondering what are the foundations of unity, I you know,
I wanted to emphasize respecting the honor and dignity of
every human being, basic honesty and humility. And then I

(50:05):
also realized that in that that unity requires a certain
degree of mercy, mercy and compassion and understanding. And so
knowing that a lot of people, as I said, in
our country right now, are really scared, I wanted to
take the opportunity in the context of that service for

(50:30):
unity to say we we need to treat everyone with dignity,
and we need to be merciful and to I was
trying to counter the narrative that is so so divisive
and polarizing and in which people, real people are being

(50:51):
are being harmed.

Speaker 2 (50:52):
That's the Episcopalian bishop who is on the view today.
Then I just wanted to talk about unity. Let people
know that we need to be more full and compassionate.
Wash who's gonna work, make our beds, who's going to
cut her the grass? And we need these people And
we're compassionate by paying them next to nothing letting them

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live in the United States. It's just cheaper that way,
all right, More your calls coming up eight eight eight
five seven eight zero one zero eighty eight five seven
eight zero one zero for the Rotten Gregg Show. Coming
up at the top of the hour, we get his
take on the whirlwind of events and moves taking place
in Washington right now. You can't keep up with the guy, No,

(51:34):
I mean I'm waking up every morning going okay, what
do you do today?

Speaker 1 (51:37):
Yeah, our pre production show in the morning just doesn't
look like it doesn't afternoon because everything dangers which Hey,
they want to keep moving it, they want to keep
getting things done. I'm I'm happy to up up my pace.

Speaker 2 (51:49):
And I'm really looking forward to this interview later on
in the next hour, Greg was Selena and Zito. We
have had Selena on the show numerous times. She does
not drive the highway, the main highway in America. She
goes on the back roads. She really finds out what's
going on in the heartland. And she wrote a terrific
article about her decade with Donald Trump, and she's going

(52:10):
to give us some insight into the President of the
United States.

Speaker 3 (52:14):
Now.

Speaker 2 (52:14):
But right now, we want to go back to the phones.
Let's go to Dan, who's in Salt Lake City tonight,
are on The Rodden Gregg Show. Dan, how are you
welcome to the show?

Speaker 6 (52:23):
Oh? I'm well, Hey, I've got a comment. I actually
found something and this is totally off the subject, but
I'll comment on the on the bishop and she's crazy.

Speaker 2 (52:32):
So that's their only comment.

Speaker 5 (52:38):
Who I mean, you know, what else do you need?

Speaker 2 (52:40):
That's true? That's true.

Speaker 6 (52:41):
No, Actually, this was my main comment, and that is Greg.
You're gonna you're gonna love this.

Speaker 1 (52:47):
Okay.

Speaker 6 (52:48):
I was in the Coldstorm Creamery the other day and
I ran across uh, you know, Eureka, I ran across
Glaze Milk Phone Biscuits, their Cadillac of milk.

Speaker 1 (53:00):
Dan, You're gonna have to stay on the line and
give me the address of that place, because that is
that is heaven. You're just hitting Nirvana for me. See,
I knew I wasn't alone. I knew I was not alone.

Speaker 6 (53:12):
But I can, I mean I can. I can relate
because I was caught more than a few times as
a kid behind the couch with my little Prudle Frosty.
We were, you know, sharing milk bones.

Speaker 1 (53:24):
So there you go. I feel you're pain hey, Dan,
you know, and I know they're good. It's our win.
Everyone else's loss. If they can't, if they if they're afraid,
if they can't taste the milk bone and be open
to the deliciousness of them, well that means just more
for us.

Speaker 6 (53:40):
It's it's an acquired taste, but it's a it's it's
a chef's taste.

Speaker 1 (53:45):
Yes, blazed ones, I'm all over at Eureka. I got
to find it.

Speaker 2 (53:49):
All right, blazed milk bone.

Speaker 1 (53:52):
Oh that sounds like heaven. I you know. That's why
I love this show so much. That's why I love
our listeners. They get it. They just get it all levels.

Speaker 2 (54:00):
We should get a sponsor. Milk Bone should be a sponsor.
They really should.

Speaker 1 (54:05):
There's an idea, and you know, I've had people that
thought they were living alone in this enjoying of milk
bones and I. We've come together. We've been able to
find each other.

Speaker 2 (54:14):
Okay, that's two people.

Speaker 1 (54:15):
No, I've had others. I've had other people.

Speaker 2 (54:17):
The people who have come up to you and say
we milk bow.

Speaker 1 (54:19):
Yes, they like them.

Speaker 8 (54:20):
I hear it.

Speaker 1 (54:21):
I get it all. I get messages. We even have
somebody that works in here at iHeart that does really yeah,
told me, whispered it to me.

Speaker 2 (54:27):
It's not the boss in the corner, is it.

Speaker 1 (54:29):
It's a big boss, big boss. Ye, really so. But
but look they're not they're not putting me on lights
around it. But guess what I did. I gave everyone
a little courage is contagious, Rod, Courage is contagious. I
came out and let everyone know I love milk bone
dog biscuits, the small ones, not the big ones.

Speaker 2 (54:44):
And they clean your teeth and.

Speaker 1 (54:46):
They clean my teeth. They're very healthy for my teeth.
So you know what I just again, Now, your audience
never disappoints. There is good.

Speaker 2 (54:54):
If you don't believe him, we have video of this.
It is on our ex posts. Yes, so if you
have haven't signed up as of yet. All you do
is have to go to x and search at Rod
and Gregg Show. Sign up now and you will actually
see we take this wet last week little video of
a citizen hughes enjoin a milk bone dog business.

Speaker 1 (55:14):
That's right, hit follow We want more and more. By
the way, thanks for those that havevolved since we just
mentioned it in this last break. But you guys act
like it's a there. It's not a dare. And by
the way, they wouldn't glaze them if they weren't delicious,
So I mean, they wouldn't act if there was no
consumers demand for them. You wouldn't see them glaze these
milk bone dog biscuits. Dan is just the purveyor of

(55:36):
good milk and good cuisine. Further enlightenment.

Speaker 2 (55:39):
Yeah, you know, uh. Garfield County Commissioner Leyland PAULA, I
sure do love I love Leon. Yeah, I just love
Leyland Paul. He's a funny guy. Well, apparently the Garfield
County Commission will meet Monday and possibly vote to name
a road that runs through Grand Staircase Escalante as Donald Highway.

Speaker 1 (56:01):
Good for him. You know, we had the bill I had,
look you know backstory of this. When I was it
was my last year speaker. We had we had a
road and we were going to make a state road
Donald Trump Highway. And I asked then King County Representative
of Mike Noel to run the bill. He made the roads.
I did not know there was a contiguous road that
went all over the state of Utah, like five hundred

(56:22):
miles or something, and so it was so big, and
then the fiscal note was big that I guess we overstepped.
So anyway, we didn't get the bill passed like we wanted.

Speaker 2 (56:30):
But well at Garfield County Commission, they're going to be
and naming the road Donald Trump.

Speaker 1 (56:36):
Highway and as it should be, as it should be. Yes,
put that out our ex page X page X page
and Rod Ray is just trying to hold that my hand,
my my something where we're we.

Speaker 2 (56:48):
Don't we don't have his knowledge about social media, so
we're trying to get an ex post. We put it on.

Speaker 1 (56:54):
No, it's not a post, it's a page page.

Speaker 2 (56:55):
Yes, you know on ourace.

Speaker 1 (56:58):
Thank you, e Ray. You know some are chill are
technology natives. They were born with they know about it
way ahead of then you have the technology immigrants, those
are that have come to it. Then you have the
technology refugees like us, you and me. We're just trying
to We're we're trying to make our way through it.
It's an X page search at Rotten Greg's show. Sign
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(57:19):
with us.

Speaker 2 (57:21):
Tomorrow night, the governor's annual State of the State address
gets underway at about six thirty and you'll hear it
live right here as part of the Rod and Greg Show. Now,
before we bring our our next guest, Congressman Burgess Owens,
former NFL star. Yes, won a Super Bowl Super Bowl Champ.
Do you ever get to wear his ring?

Speaker 5 (57:39):
Yes?

Speaker 1 (57:39):
I have multiple times. Yeah, it kind of I've worn
it more than he actually said I could keep it,
and I felt bad. I know now you can.

Speaker 2 (57:47):
You're the champ. You can keep it. No, he didn't
say that. Well, this weekend, we've got the the Washington Redskins,
I refused to call them the Commanders, and the Philadelphia Eagles.
Right so, one of the chance for the Eagles is
spelling the name e A G L E. S Eagles, Eagles,
Eagles right. Well, the Mayor of Philadelphia apparently did not

(58:07):
do well in spelling.

Speaker 1 (58:08):
She didn't know there's going to be a spelling be
to be mayor. At rally yesterday she said, let's do
the chance. She said, E L G S E S Eagles.

Speaker 2 (58:20):
Yeah, awkward, A little awkward for you. All right, let's
bring on Cocker's ban Owen's Burgess. How are you welcome
to the Rod and Greg Show?

Speaker 5 (58:29):
Hey, guys, looking for the chat with me once again?

Speaker 2 (58:33):
Did you ever play the Eagles in your years in
the NFL? And how were they to play or to
play in Philly?

Speaker 3 (58:40):
Yeah, well we played them at the right time.

Speaker 5 (58:42):
The Raiders were kind of on the move.

Speaker 3 (58:43):
I have to remind a lot of young people on
the listening that there was a.

Speaker 5 (58:46):
Town the Raiders used to win football games all the time.

Speaker 3 (58:49):
He used to be when baby when a fun It
was a fun, fun call to the singles.

Speaker 2 (58:54):
Yeah, I would imagine.

Speaker 1 (58:57):
So, look, we're just now you're.

Speaker 3 (58:58):
In a different I just can I just add this
to that to that point, guys, Yes, sir, because I
know we're talking about this what's happening right here in
DC and in the fact that we finally have a president.

Speaker 5 (59:07):
Who's a leader, who's bold who Uh, we're.

Speaker 3 (59:11):
So excited that what's happening. But just know I've experienced
this once before. I was part of that Al Davis
just win baby culture. One that you've got second chances
once you got to that field. Everything you did everything good,
just to to keep this respect. And that's what That's
what President Trump has given us here in DC, a
team that because of who he is, because of respect,

(59:32):
we're happening because of the mandate American people have given us.

Speaker 5 (59:35):
We're gonna find a.

Speaker 3 (59:36):
Unity that we have have not had. We're not seen
since I've been here for the last few years. So
I'm excited about it. And it starts with the fact
that American people have woken up, they're engaged. I'm so
excited they have put in place the opportune we now
have for the next next few years.

Speaker 1 (59:53):
So Congressman, what what's up on? So the executive orders
are moving at a fast pace, and there's things that
we want to see. We want to see federally, the
federal definition of men and women as per chromosomes. It's
it's just a beautiful time. There's so many of those
executive orders, but the legislative branch, you know, you know,
I'm from that legislative branch. What is first? What's what

(01:00:15):
is your first? Second? Third? What's your to do list?

Speaker 2 (01:00:18):
Look like?

Speaker 1 (01:00:18):
Working with this president and getting passed out of the House.

Speaker 3 (01:00:23):
You know, Well, the good thing is we have them
called reconciliation, which we're working hard.

Speaker 5 (01:00:27):
And there's something that I'm working very hard.

Speaker 3 (01:00:29):
I'm hoping that working with the Ways and Means Committee,
and we have remarkable Chairman Kim Wallberg, something called Education
towards the Children's that it's a chance for us to
give as a country, every child an opportunity to live
a medical dream by being educated.

Speaker 5 (01:00:45):
And I'm giving them a choice.

Speaker 3 (01:00:46):
And we're doing that by using tax credits, going through
a nonprofit organization, not putting anything at all, taking anything
out at all from the local area.

Speaker 5 (01:00:55):
And we'll be talking more about that.

Speaker 3 (01:00:57):
But I believe that this is the type of legislation
will be a legacy for this Congress because we get
this right.

Speaker 5 (01:01:03):
We get out kids as looking at looking.

Speaker 3 (01:01:05):
At them as an investment, not as a cost, and
make sure every child has a chance to go to
the best that mayor system brings every school up, including
public school systems. We do that and this legacy will
do that. We'll have intergenerational change from this point moving forward,
and our kids will have a great chance to live
American dream.

Speaker 2 (01:01:20):
Well, we need to congratulate the Congress. And he is
now the vice chairman of the House Education Committee. Have
I got that right? Burgess?

Speaker 5 (01:01:28):
You're right, You're right.

Speaker 3 (01:01:30):
And I'm over the chairman of the Subcommittee for Higher Education,
and we have a remarkable chairman. Tim Wahlberg has an
institutional knowledge. He understands this process of that we're going
through re reconciliation and we're talking very closely with the
President and the Senate. It's amazing process of unity that
we're having right now. So we just have to get

(01:01:50):
it done and then you get some wins for the
President for sure and American people.

Speaker 2 (01:01:53):
Congressman, I want to ask you about the big news
of the day, of course, the President announcing that he's
wiping out DEI offices throughout the federal government. Your reaction
to that. Do you approve of what the President did today?

Speaker 5 (01:02:04):
I am.

Speaker 3 (01:02:05):
I am so excited about this. People have to understand that,
you know, I've seen this before. I lived through the
time when I was a kid where people judge each
other from outside in that inside out. We have come
so far and we're not gonna let them Marxist left
get us back to where we're dividing ourselves based on
our skin color or whatever else they want to be.

Speaker 5 (01:02:22):
Here divide us on.

Speaker 3 (01:02:23):
So so this is the end of d I. The
good thing is American people now see it. I mean,
this has been kind of happening over the decades. God,
so this is a slow process. The American people see it.
And now that we can educate our American people, our
kids to what our system is all about about meritocracy
and also the enemyw we have of Marxism, we can

(01:02:44):
do that, teach them that now, and they will never
sneak up on us the way they have the last
few decades. So I'm excited about this.

Speaker 5 (01:02:49):
And and is this the very first two days of
a four year process. It's kind of excited, guys, you.

Speaker 1 (01:02:58):
Know, it's it is exciting. And I I think when
you're talking about this, and we're talking about you know,
judging people by the content of the character, not the
color of their skin. Things that you've lived through personally,
as in your life and in America's history, and so
you have such a you're so authentic about this issue
earn success. That is something and freedom of self determination
in America is so unique to the American experience. And

(01:03:20):
so we have a president who embraces this, who wants
to give everyone this opportunity to determine their own way
and to earn their own success. And so I feel
good about it. Let me ask you this. So you've
got the department that you got, Doge, you got the
Department of Government Efficiency where they want to start identifying
empty federal buildings. They want to go and look and
and see where the federal government can spend less where

(01:03:42):
they're spending money they shouldn't. But that's still the power
of the purse lies with you in Congress. Or how
described for me? How do you work with Doge and
how does that? How are you in Congress going to
slow down the spending. I know a lot of it's
entitledment spending. I know we have some big, big ticket items,
big rocks. But in terms of really finding those efficiencies
and being in Congress, what what is the strategy that's

(01:04:04):
being discussed amongst the Republicans in Congress.

Speaker 3 (01:04:07):
It's happening as we speak, and it's all reconciliation.

Speaker 5 (01:04:10):
Uh.

Speaker 3 (01:04:11):
We right now we're talking all the different faces of
this government that the House, to Senate and President because
we have again a varied.

Speaker 5 (01:04:21):
Our body is.

Speaker 3 (01:04:23):
Very freedom focused and we're not going to just fall
in line. So we have to between ourselves to get
what works for now. With the power we do have,
we're gonna find a way that that we're gonna start
cutting costs, start increasing our revenue through through the energy
that those types of things. So we're having conversations, very
hard and tough conversations, knowing that we're not going to
get everything. Everybody's gonna get everything they want. But if

(01:04:45):
we can strategically work it out to give for the
President and American people a win and then improve ourselves
so we can get a bigger majority than those wins,
become a much much, much much bigger process.

Speaker 5 (01:04:55):
So we're doing.

Speaker 3 (01:04:56):
Things now that the time I've been here we've never
done before, which is having the very hard discussions knowing
that at the end of the day, we cannot sell
the American people.

Speaker 5 (01:05:04):
So that being said, you.

Speaker 3 (01:05:06):
Can see again all the paces of our party saying Okay,
I don't have everything I want, but I have enough
to get as cross the line and to give ourselves
a win in American people see that we're really are
working for them.

Speaker 2 (01:05:15):
Well, one final question for you, Yeah, go ahead, go ahead.

Speaker 3 (01:05:19):
Well to that point, you know, we have a very
small majority, and I know it seems like that's a
very tough thing. I believe it's one of the biggest
blessings that we will learn how to work with a
small majority, learn how to how to give things up
that we might have to to make sure we work
as a team. We get that mindset just a manager,
what's gonna happen. We get a bigger majority with the
same mindset, and more people and more Americans are trusting

(01:05:40):
and coming our way. So we're in the position of
really getting a good habit, a mental habit that will
take us on to the future.

Speaker 5 (01:05:49):
And I'm very excited about that process.

Speaker 2 (01:05:51):
Well, one thing you've done already is I noticed today
that I think the House now is clarified the Lake
and Riley Bill. The Senate has already approved it, and
it looks like it's on its way to the President's
desk for his signature. So there's been a good move
on the part of a part of both the House
and the Senate.

Speaker 3 (01:06:08):
It is and it's the promise that President Trump gave us,
and he says everything about what's important. The first buildings
as sign is dealing with with with saving our country's sovereignty,
with saving the American people.

Speaker 5 (01:06:19):
Give it, but make sure we're protected.

Speaker 3 (01:06:21):
And not only did the the the Republican Party put
it out there and we wanted to send We're forward,
we bought the Democrats a few Democrats overall.

Speaker 5 (01:06:29):
So so this is the way it works.

Speaker 3 (01:06:31):
When when when the entire country sees the movement that
President Trump has brought to us, we're going to have
a lot of more momentum. And it's also be about
America first. Those who want to stay around here in
DC will we'll get on board.

Speaker 5 (01:06:42):
Those who don't.

Speaker 3 (01:06:43):
Quite get it, then they're going to have I think
some tough times ahead of them for sure.

Speaker 1 (01:06:47):
Congressman, I am going to quote you more than you'll
ever understand that you understand that the perfect cannot be
the enemy of good. The muscle memory you will acquire
with a slim majority, that when that majority grows, the
strength of your body even rose with it is so
inspiring for me to hear because I haven't heard as
much about the math of getting things done, and you
just you just nailed it. Thank you so much, and

(01:07:08):
thank you for your leadership.

Speaker 5 (01:07:10):
Well listen, you just mentioned it. I was trying to
find the right word. Muscle memory is.

Speaker 3 (01:07:14):
Exactly anybody anybody's been out there, whether it be sports,
whether it be a music, whatever you do is to
do it all the time.

Speaker 5 (01:07:22):
You have to think about it anymore. You just you
just do it.

Speaker 1 (01:07:25):
Yep.

Speaker 5 (01:07:25):
That's what we have to get here, and we're finally
getting done. And you do the in game for that one.

Speaker 1 (01:07:29):
I love it.

Speaker 5 (01:07:30):
Well.

Speaker 2 (01:07:30):
Congress is always great chatting with you, sir. Thank you.
I know we'll be talking down the road. Thank you.

Speaker 5 (01:07:35):
Thanks guys. All all right.

Speaker 2 (01:07:37):
Congressman burgess On what a good guy.

Speaker 1 (01:07:39):
I'm not kidding you. It is so exciting to hear
someone say it's a blessing to have this slim majority
because it's going to require us to do some work
we haven't done before. I love that and that's what
it's going to require.

Speaker 2 (01:07:49):
It sure does. All right, Mary coming up on the
rod In Greg Show and Utah's Talk Radio one oh
five nine k n RS. Welcome back to the Roddy
greg show with you on this Wednesday Wingman Wednesday. As

(01:08:13):
a matter of fact, don't forget Jesse. Kelly is coming
your way at the top of the hour, coming back
from Vegas over the weekend. Had a chance to listen
to Jesse. He is one funny dude. He is really funny.
I really like Jesse. So he does talk radio in
a very entertaining fashion.

Speaker 1 (01:08:30):
He does, he does, and he doesn't. I mean I
think we pull punches at all. I don't think we're
soft shooting it at all. But he is just he's
he's a riot.

Speaker 5 (01:08:38):
I do.

Speaker 1 (01:08:38):
I do love it. And yeah, he doesn't suffer fools lightly.

Speaker 2 (01:08:42):
No, he sure doesn't. All right, she has spent a
decade with Donald Trump. We're talking about Selena Zito. We've
had Selena on the show many times before, but we're
scheduled to talk with Selena coming up at six thirty
five tonight about her thoughts on Donald Trump. All right, Now,
let's talk about Utah's newest Senator, John Curtis, who today

(01:09:02):
rolled an up ed Peet's in the Hill talking about
pioneer values at the boarder, we said, compassion meets the
rule of law, how do you balance both Greg that's
I think that's what he writes about.

Speaker 1 (01:09:15):
Look, I'm going to have to delve into the article
because I think there's a I think that this discussion.
There's nothing compassionate about three hundred thousand unaccompanied miners that
are missing mental nothing compassionate about So if you want
to talk babies and cages and Trump administration, you had
some custody of those children there, they have lost three
hundred thousand children. There's nothing compassionate about people who have

(01:09:37):
to commit identity theft and crimes to be able to
get a job, or that they're second class or underclass.
They're not first class citizens are under class. So there
isn't really a compassionate appeal for me. On illegal immigration. Now,
I will say if we don't provide a legal pathway
for people to migrate, and I think that number of

(01:09:58):
how many immigrants you will into your country should look
commensurate to what other nations do and how the you know,
the EBB and flow of people migrating around the world looks.
Of course, we know that America is a city on
the hill. Of course we know that people want to
come to America. But I think we should know what
that number is in terms of immigration or visas, and
we shouldn't pick losers, you know, winners and losers, and

(01:10:20):
only the high tech or only this agriculture gets the visas.
We've got to find a very fair way to do it.
But after you do that, you cannot fix the illegal
immigration problem. To you seal the border, and to seal
that border, you will never convince me that that's an
that you're not being compassionate to do it. It's for
all those that assumed our laws meant something. How cruel

(01:10:41):
is it to them to cast a blind eye to
people who've broken the law.

Speaker 2 (01:10:45):
Yeah, well, and Sender Curtis writs, he talks about the
three things Greg that we always talk about. Number One,
secure the border. Did you see what Texas did yesterday? No,
remember those big booys they put in the middle of
the Rio Grande, yes with spikes on them to prevent
people from crossing. They're doing it again. They're they jumped
right on it right away, and they're now putting these

(01:11:06):
big bullies in the middle of the Rio grand to
prevent people from crossing. I guess those things are nasty.
You don't want to try and climb over them or
swim under them, because you'd be in a heap of trouble.
That's and they went right back. So is that is
that cruel? Is that not compassionate? No, it's great. It's
securing a border.

Speaker 1 (01:11:25):
It is. And look, I mean, you can't be selective
in your logic or your outrage. You cannot say that
we have laws, they have to be enforced, but up
in Canada we'll do a better job. Or if you
want to come from overseas and there's not a contiguous
country to the south, then you've got a you've got
a long arduous path in front of you. But if
you happen to be south of the border, then come
on over. We're just gonna let you do it. We're
not going to make it very difficult at all. You know,

(01:11:47):
that's selective application of the law. There's no, there's no,
there's nothing compassionate about. This is why Lady Justice has
a blindfold on when she's holding the scale, because you're
not supposed to pick those winners and losers. That is
not they there's nothing. Yes, And by the way, I'm
telling you, I've talked to our sheriffs that who've been
down there those border counties and talk to their county sheriffs.
You got cartels, organized crime running if you want to

(01:12:11):
get across. It's not the huddled masses, you know, just
trying to get across. They have to pay these cartels
to do it, and it's very dangerous circumstances. There's nothing
compassionate about that. The only you know, supply chain that
actually lived and thrived during the Biden administration, where the
drug cartel is human and drug trafficking. That's it. So
that whole topic of ilitgal immigration. You're never going to

(01:12:32):
sell me on some compassion that there has to be
some compassionate way to do it. It's it's not compassionate
to allow it. You got to you got to. You
gotta address it now and try to fix what's been
damaged over the last four years.

Speaker 2 (01:12:44):
Well, he talks about securing the border, enforcing the law
fairly and with dignity, and I think Americans can support
that and fix the immigration system. I don't know what
it is every I don't know Greg, if it's ever
going to happen in my lifetime, but we need to
fix the immigration system. It is outdated. We can update it,
We can make it easier for people if they want
to come into the country legally through that process. It

(01:13:06):
shouldn't cost them thousands of dollars and hearings after hearings
from form after form. There's a way. I think we
can do it in a fair manner, but we've got
to fix the system. I don't know if it'll ever
happen in my lifetime. I'm only hoping, well it will
it ebbs and flows. That has been as bad as
it is the last four years. But I do think
you have a tall wall and a wide gate, and

(01:13:27):
you just have to have an orderly way for people
to migrate in or give visus do all of that.
Some of the most the most emotional events I've attended.
It's a state capital.

Speaker 1 (01:13:38):
Been in that rotunda where people are sworn in as
Americans are holding their American flags. They've gone through all
the legal hoops to do it. They care, they're excited
to be Americans. We do I get to speak I
used to get to speak at it, and then we
do selfies and celebrate together. Yeah, as Americans. And that
is if you can look at that, and then you
contrast that to people that are brought over by drug

(01:13:59):
cartails and to hide and they don't have any legal standing.
There's nothing remotely humane about any of it. And if
you brought a kid along with you, you brought a
kid into the world under those circumstances, shame on you
because that wasn't compassionate to that child.

Speaker 2 (01:14:13):
Yeah, yeah, well, and I've had the same opportunity. I
remember many many years ago at the Stadium of Fire,
they had greg this massive swearing in ceremony for they
were all on the foot. I bet there were three
to five hundred people who are becoming US citizens. I
think it was Orne Hatch who swore them in. And
what a moment that was. I mean, you could just

(01:14:33):
see the joy in their faces. That's the joy that
Americans are looking for. We don't want people crossing the
river illegally. That's not what America is for. But you come,
you go through the process, We're going to celebrate with you.
It's one of the proudest moments. If you ever get
a chance to see it or participate in it, do it.

Speaker 1 (01:14:52):
You know, I've served a mission. Part of my time
I was in papen Ne Guinea, the Papa Guineans. It's
a third world country. There's nothing in this world they
would love more than to visit or even stay in
the United States of America. It is a dream. That
dream would only be fulfilled if they followed the law
to get here. Yeah, they cannot migrate any there's no
illegal weighted from that country to America. So there are laws,

(01:15:14):
And why would we ever shut them out and say
you're never going to and we're gonna let people walk
across unchecked. Otherwise it's not fair, It's not right, all.

Speaker 2 (01:15:22):
Right, Moore coming up on the Rod and Greg Show
and Utah's Talk Radio one o five to nine knrs.
When we talk about the trades, it's always I need
a plumber, an electrician, a good age fat guy singular
as if it's just one person. For your next guest,
this is a journalist who I've admired for a long
long time. She's been on the show numerous occasions. She
is a journalist who pay pays no attention to New

(01:15:45):
York and Washington. She gets into the heartland of America
and America to find out what Americans think. And she
wrote a great article. That's why I wanted to get
her on talking about her decade with Donald Trump, and
we're talking about Selena Zito and she's joining us on
our newsmaker line. And Selena, how are you Welcome back
to the rod in Great Joe, thanks for being with.

Speaker 4 (01:16:03):
Us, Thanks so much for having me.

Speaker 2 (01:16:06):
You know, you wrote this terrific article about your decade
with Donald Trump. Tell the audience the first time you
met Donald Trump and what that was like, because it
was years ago.

Speaker 4 (01:16:18):
Yeah, So the first time I met him in person
was in Pittsburgh, Pennsylvania. He was set to speak at
a Marcella Shale conventions called Shale Insight in the city,
and that was the first time I sat down with him.
And it was during that interview that I noticed that

(01:16:42):
he had well, well, first of all, it's very polite,
He had great manners. He looked me in the eye
when he talked to me. These are these might seem like,
you know, something everybody does, but I will tell you
that is not common among the politicians. You know, they're
always looking over your shoulder to see what they're missing

(01:17:05):
or what's next, and and so I found that incredibly refreshing.

Speaker 10 (01:17:10):
But what stood out.

Speaker 4 (01:17:11):
The most to me was is that he was most
comfortable and interested and drawn to the working class people
that were behind the scenes. Then sort of the sea
sweet suits there were in the room to hear him speak,
and and I that that really really stuck with me

(01:17:36):
in that moment, and so that was my Those were
my early impressions of him. He's also very funny that
that instance began a running joke between the two of us,
because after the interview he wanted to go. He's like,
come walk with me when we go, you know, towards

(01:17:57):
the stage. So we went from the green room like
back through like where all the workers are, you know,
the janitors, the plumbers, the people that were making convention work,
and where he had this conversation, and we get to
when he's about to go on stage, and he goes, hey,
you want to go on stage with me? And now
I knew he was joking, but he just he I'm

(01:18:22):
sure people they have watched his facial expressions, whether you
like it or not. You know, he just has this
a little bit of charm to him. And that became
a running joke between him and I through all the
interviews I've done with him over the past decade.

Speaker 1 (01:18:38):
Selene, there's a couple of things we have in common one.
I grew up in Pittsburgh, Pennsylvania, and I know the
area well. I came out here to you how to
go to college. But I've been following you. I had
a nephew that they graduated from Butler High School. I
saw that you were there that scary day for that rally.
But here's what I want to share with you. So
my wife Christi, she's from Utah. I was a recovering

(01:18:59):
public servant and she read your column and she had
the opportunity to meet President Trump. We met him in
December of twenty seventeen, and as he came off Air
Force one, he queued into my wife, Krista, and he
wanted to know about our children, and he wanted to
know about her life, and he asked her questions that
to the very point you made, she had been to
so many rubber chicken political dinners. She'd been running to

(01:19:21):
many governors, all kinds of people. No one was as
deeply interested in her life or the details of her
life as as President Trump was. And when she read
your column, she just said, you have just defined the
experience she had and that she wished so she wished
that other people would know and By the way, he

(01:19:42):
is funny because when we went through all this, he said,
you want to come back with you want to go
in the uh what do they call it? In the
beast with me? Yes, mister President, I would love to
do that. Which you like to go up at Air
Force one? Yes, I would actually love that. I would
love it. And I looted the place. I went and
got the m and ms, the Air Force one m
and ms everything. But I got to tell you that
it is just so refreshing to hear you just drop

(01:20:03):
such truthful observations that we've our own family can confirm.
How has your article what it's been the pingback for you?
Do people believe you? Do they think you've exaggerated? Do
they think you're a kiss up? I mean, how is
how is this description being taken by by I don't know,
by your peers and others?

Speaker 4 (01:20:23):
Really interesting that you ask that. Most of the time
I take a fair amount of grief online from other journalists,
not because I support Donald Trump. I'm just covering in
from the perspective of people in the middle of America.
So I ask different questions and I see the world differently,

(01:20:47):
and so normally I take a lot of goff comments
are negative, right, but there's been none. O.

Speaker 13 (01:21:01):
You read that.

Speaker 4 (01:21:02):
Story and you go through the comments section, there isn't
one mean one. And and you know, the first one
of the first people that reached out to me after
they read the story was the former Florida governor Jeb Bush.
Second person that read it that reached out to me
early in the morning on Saturday was Democrat Governor of

(01:21:22):
Pennsylvania Josh Piro.

Speaker 5 (01:21:24):
Wow.

Speaker 4 (01:21:25):
And and now both of them, I've you know, covered
them for years. Uh and and both of them sort
of said, look, this is what we've always appreciated about you,
is that you bring a different perspective and you take
the reader in a place that is more authentic, and

(01:21:49):
and and how they would react. And so they loved
it too. So I think that kind of shows the
sort of bipartisan viewpoint of it. But no, I didn't
get any coss. I felt like I was in a
parallel university. I still feel like I'm in parallel.

Speaker 1 (01:22:07):
You have all the stick getting ready for it, and
it doesn't come in fact, people appreciate it. You were
doing a service to this country to be able to
share those that insight. Because I know it's true. My
wife does. Many do, but they never see it. We
never see it.

Speaker 2 (01:22:21):
Inthring Selena. Has he changed it all in the ten
years that you've been reporting on him, interviewing him, Has
he changed it all?

Speaker 4 (01:22:30):
Well? If listeners aren't aware of this, I was four
feet away from him.

Speaker 1 (01:22:35):
He was shot at.

Speaker 4 (01:22:36):
Yes, I know that, and he called me the next morning.
I hope people. My new book is coming out. It's
called Butler, The un Told Story of what happened that day.
But also it also really dives deep into Pennsylvania. And
I understood that he was going to win very early on.

(01:22:56):
But he is definitely he has definitely not He's always
going to be cheeky, and he's always going to be
a bull in the China shop because Americans wanted the
china shop to break. However, after talking visit, that's why
this book is so important. These detailed, intimate, very personal,

(01:23:19):
at times very emotional interviews talking about how he felt
because he you know, he I was supposed to fly
with him from Butler to Bedminster right after the rally,
and I had seen him just five minutes before he

(01:23:40):
walked out onto that stage, just because he wanted to
say hi to me. And so he called me first
thing that morning and said are you okay? And I said,
are you kidding me? You were shot? I mean, yes,
it's traumatic. However, nobody shot me, uh and and so

(01:24:03):
I So that sort of gives you the side of
the graciousness and empathy that he has as as a
as a person, is a man, is a father, is
a grandfather, as a husband, as a brother, a son,
he's all those things. And we sometimes don't think that.

Speaker 10 (01:24:18):
Yeah, we don't, but I think that.

Speaker 4 (01:24:21):
And his faith has really deepened and he really understands
he has a there was a purpose for him to
survive that.

Speaker 2 (01:24:33):
Yes, that's true, Selena. We could talk to you for
another hour, but we've got to get her up against
the great. We look forward to your book coming out.
We'll talk to you when it comes out, Selena. All
as always a pleasure chatting with you. Thanks Selena, Thanks
so much.

Speaker 4 (01:24:46):
People can preorder it now they want to. I appreciate it,
all right, thank you?

Speaker 5 (01:24:50):
All right?

Speaker 2 (01:24:51):
That's story, Yeah, the untold story of Butler Pennsylvania. Selena Zido.
She has such a pleasure to talk to she.

Speaker 1 (01:24:57):
Is and I I didn't put it. I actually didn't
connect the dots about this is who Queen Bee's been
talking about with me, about this beautiful story and how
happy she was to read it.

Speaker 2 (01:25:06):
You can find that story at where can they find
that story? Greg Washington Examiner, I think may have it.
It's called My Decade with Trump if you want to
get some real insight into the President of the United States.
All right, some final thoughts coming up on this Wingman
Wednesday edition of The Roden Greg Show and Talk Radio
one oh five. Die can Arrest.

Speaker 1 (01:25:24):
Jesse Kelly's coming your way. I tell you, just if
you haven't listened to the whole show. We had some
great guests in this show today. You got to go back,
get to the podcast. You got to listen to it.
Burgess Owen's unbelievable, Selena is you know who we just
spoke with, Phenomena, all of them, all of our guests today,
the mom for the US new student who doesn't want

(01:25:44):
this man to be the ra for her daughter's room,
who knew sway. Just check out the podcast if you
didn't get the whole show, because I thought today's show
was particularly good.

Speaker 2 (01:25:53):
A couple of notes. Apparently the new boss at CNN,
right his name is Mark Thompson warned the network stars
to refrain from bashing Donald Trump and bringing up the
past during his inauguration on Monday. According to report, Thompson
told the big stars like Anderson Cooper and others. Jake

(01:26:14):
Tamper urged the journalists to keep their biases to themselves.

Speaker 1 (01:26:18):
Good for him. I mean, I don't watch CNN salvageable,
but that they're just not taking.

Speaker 2 (01:26:24):
Seriously well salvageable, Greg. How about this. CNN's revenue dropped
roughly four hundred million dollars in the last three years.
Four hundred million dollars in the last three years, and
there's a report out tonight that sometime this week there
may be some serious cuts at CNN. They have a

(01:26:46):
staff of about thirty five hundred and they may be
facing some serious cuts at Cno.

Speaker 1 (01:26:52):
They can't print money, so I don't know how they're
paying bills that they're losing that.

Speaker 2 (01:26:55):
Kind of and oh, you know, there's been a lot
of speculation that the Love on the Rocks, Queen Barrock
and Michelle Yes, okay, now we understand that Kamala Harrison
husband Dougie are having troubles because she's blaming old Dougie
for her political setbacks.

Speaker 1 (01:27:12):
Yeah, that was all his fault. Yeah, that's so unfair,
Poor doug blame it, poor Dougie. Yeah, poor Douggie.

Speaker 2 (01:27:19):
We don't do about fresh Well, we don't do about Douggie.

Speaker 1 (01:27:22):
By the way, I don't know if you knows, but
New York Times they've always thought that abortion was just
an unviable tissue mass unless it's an unborn of an
undocumented woman. Now there's a values on a person, and
there's a life, their their pro life. When it's an
undocumented mom, it's an amazing flip.

Speaker 2 (01:27:38):
Yeah, all right, we're back tomorrow at four. Head up,
shoulders back. May God blessed you and your family in
this great country of hours. Tomorrow the State of the
State Live at six point thirty. We'll talk to you
is starting at four

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