The Rod and Greg Show: Why We Shouldn't Forgive Biden's Lies; Minnesota SC on Side of Public Nudity

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Speaker 1 (00:00):
Carolyn did such a good job. I mean, what am
I supposed to beat when you.

Speaker 2 (00:03):
Were gone, when you were on vacation, we weren't swinging
from the rafters here celebrating.

Speaker 1 (00:08):
I'm not swinging from the rafters to me. I just appreciate. Well,
we did have balloons and cake and all kinds of
fun stuff. Don't really care, Margaret, thank you, thank you, Ray.
But it's good that you're back. Hey, we missed your
energy and your verbotht you know what.

Speaker 2 (00:29):
You know? He says that, folks, because we've just done
a three hour show here since what two o'clock, We've
just I've basically just narrated.

Speaker 1 (00:36):
Yeah, we're going to talk about today. Yeah, and you just.

Speaker 3 (00:39):
Sat there and you've just shaken your head.

Speaker 1 (00:40):
Yes, well, that says I'm doing other things when I'm
trying to get ready for the show.

Speaker 2 (00:44):
He ignores me. That's what's happening here. I will not stop.
I will not stop dropping truth bombs. I have to
get ready for the shot.

Speaker 3 (00:51):
Coach him up. I can't let him out here on
his own.

Speaker 1 (00:54):
Uh huh. Sure. It's great to be with you on
this very nice Tuesday afternoon. I hope you're having a
good day, and I hope you have a good evening
planned as well. Great to be with you this afternoon.
I brought our cat.

Speaker 3 (01:04):
I'm Citizen Greg Hughes, and.

Speaker 1 (01:06):
We want to again thanks Carolyn for filling in yesterdation.

Speaker 3 (01:08):
And all honesty. Thank you. I love Carolyn. She was
so much.

Speaker 2 (01:11):
We did a lot of great work together when we
worked in the house. I was speaker shoes staff. We
killed Obamacare expansion together, which was a blessed.

Speaker 1 (01:17):
Oh really hard bill to do. So she described that
time with you as a prison sentence. No, she survived.

Speaker 2 (01:23):
You know what, that would have been a white collar
prison and where you get to play tennis and you
get to have fun because it was not hard at all.

Speaker 3 (01:30):
It was a lot of fun.

Speaker 1 (01:31):
Oh, we have got a great show lined up for
you today. Some of the things that we'll be talking about.
We're going to talk about the Rains Act. There is
the Minnesota Supreme Court has ruled in favor of public nudity.

Speaker 2 (01:42):
Yeah, every fourteen year old boy is celebrating this decision today, folks.
They are every boy saying, yay, this is where we
thought the whole world should go.

Speaker 3 (01:49):
Sure, it's it's great for the kids.

Speaker 2 (01:51):
It's not for common sense, but for fourteen year old kids,
they're just celebrating these Minnesota Supreme Court justices.

Speaker 1 (01:57):
Well, I have a question about that. Isn't Minnesota no
as the land of a thousand Lakes.

Speaker 3 (02:02):
It seems a little brisk up there.

Speaker 1 (02:04):
But there are also a lot of mosquitos correct actual
good point, public nudity and mosquitos. To me, don't go along.

Speaker 2 (02:11):
No, I think it might be a little bit of
a trial. Maybe maybe they maybe this is all theory
to them. Maybe they don't think anyone's crazy enough to
do it. Yeah. Well, our good friend Kurt Clicktor is
on a roll today. Kurt's going to be joined us
a little bit later on, so we've got a lot
to get to And oh a reminder, before I forget this,
we have Keith Urban tickets to give away.

Speaker 3 (02:30):
Oh yeah, that's right.

Speaker 1 (02:32):
Well, you're in a big country music fan, right.

Speaker 3 (02:35):
I get in moods.

Speaker 2 (02:36):
I get in moods where I like it, especially if
they're patriotic songs. But yeah, I'm it's probably not my
my top genre, but I do like I do.

Speaker 3 (02:44):
I do like Keith Urban.

Speaker 1 (02:45):
Yeah, I saw him perform as I mentioned yesterday. Dow
in Vegas a couple of years ago put on a
heck of a show, and he knows how to play
guitar and considered one of the best guitarists out there today.

Speaker 2 (02:54):
I would bet our listeners I don't think it's gonna
I don't think it's going to take long to get
to whatever.

Speaker 1 (02:58):
Number of collar we're going to go for it. We'll
get there hot tickets. Yeah, we'll get there sometime today.

Speaker 4 (03:03):
All right.

Speaker 1 (03:03):
Like I said, we've got a lot to get to, Greg.
But I want to start off the show because I
want to give everybody a chuckle when they go home
at night. You know they're on their way home, they've
been working all day. We need a lighter moment to
kind of brighten up their decks. My job, Well, it
could be, but there's a story out apparently Team Biden. Okay,

(03:25):
it's being urged to do an apology tour to admit
of his health and cognitive decline cover up.

Speaker 3 (03:36):
So you need to.

Speaker 2 (03:38):
Come clean and tell everyone you had the biggest cover
up in American history going on. And then you need
to say you're sorry. Who's asking them to do that?
Because those are two big admissions they're asking them to make.

Speaker 1 (03:48):
Well, apparently some people are saying this is what you
need to do. This is a quote from somebody behind this,
he said, As calls grow louder for congressional hearings into
what they did or what did they know and when
did they know what? Regarding the president's decline, one thing
is abundantly clear. We don't need months of subpoenas, grandstanding

(04:10):
and televised committee drama. We need to get out on
the road and talk to the American people.

Speaker 2 (04:14):
Well, they're very be careful because there's a lot of
good questions that need to be asked, and when Chuck
Schumer's only answer to all of them is we're moving on,
We're moving He cannot answer the direct question of when
he if he understood he said that Biden was sharp,
Did he really mean it or not? He will not
answer either way. And it just begs questions who's running
the military, who's pardoning all these people that the auto
pen signed pardons for? Who was actually acting as the president?

(04:38):
You know, I mean, that's that's a serious deal. I
mean that's true. Who was making those decisions?

Speaker 1 (04:43):
Now, think of all the people who've been involved in
the Biden administration. All right, who would you put on
the bus for this apology tour?

Speaker 2 (04:53):
See, you can't put Kamala Harris on there because she
can't push when she speaks, You'll just be dumbfound. You
won't even know that.

Speaker 1 (04:59):
She's I apologize. I can't put her on there. Suggestions are.

Speaker 2 (05:04):
Jean Pierre, Yeah, she has to have a binder with
her if she's gonna do it. She doesn't know what
to say, She's got to look it up.

Speaker 1 (05:10):
Uh, Alejandro Mayorchis.

Speaker 2 (05:12):
Yeah, they say, Hey, I got impeached and I never
had to go to the Senate and I got this
T shirt instead.

Speaker 1 (05:17):
Yeah, he can talk about that. And Merrick Garland, what
a motley crew that you wouldn't be wouldn't that be
a great tour for entertainment purpose for nothing serious minded? Yeah,
but for entertainment.

Speaker 2 (05:29):
And just when you rattle off those names, the thoughts
their memories I have of every one of those people
are just what a disaster, What a disaster on every front.
And to think that Obama tried to make Merrick Garland
a Supreme Court justice. Yeah, I can be mad at
Mitch McConnell for a lot of things, but not holding
up that nomination. That's one that he did. We we

(05:50):
are great, we are lucky. He held that up.

Speaker 1 (05:52):
Van Jones said this over the weekend. We played the
audio sound by from it yesterday. Van Jones thinks this
whole cover up, the cognitive declined, what happened during the campaign,
the health issues now that are coming out because of
the prostate cancer. He thinks it will take the Democratic
Party a very very long time to get over this.

Speaker 2 (06:11):
It should, and I think it deservedly so. And not
just the Democrat Party. The media, the regime media though
they're the you know, the propaganda machine, which is all
that they've They've just come down to this lowest common denominator,
denominator of a propaganda machine. They pushed this narrative that
he was sharp, that he was fine. Anybody that ever
challenged it, they attacked viciously, as if they were doing

(06:33):
something wrong. They were hand in hand and part of this.
So it's not just the Democrats in that administration. The
media has a huge responsibility, and all of the above
have zero credibility with the people, with the American people,
even the Democrat I think it's why the Democrats when
they pull themselves and say what do you think about
our party?

Speaker 3 (06:50):
They're like, We're doomed. That's the that's their polling answer.

Speaker 2 (06:53):
It's the worst approval rating amongst Democrats about their own
party you've ever seen.

Speaker 1 (06:57):
Do you have to sound bite with Terry mccauliffe that
you were playing. I mean this Terry Wanculoff, who was
very close friends with Bill Clinton and Hillary Clinton. Right,
he was the what the governor of Virginia ye at
one time, also head of the Democratic National Party at
one time. I can't stand the guy, that's my honest opinion. Yeah,
but he's now looking at the Democratic Party and it's

(07:18):
offering some suggestions about what needs to be done and
what has happened.

Speaker 3 (07:21):
Yeah, this is a news nation.

Speaker 2 (07:23):
He's being interviewed by Chris Cuomo and so this is
his this is his and everything Rogers said is true.
So imagine a guy that we don't have a whole
lot of credibility for anyway, coming clean and making this comment.

Speaker 5 (07:34):
He's talking about a trillion dollars of investments on this
Middle East deal. I don't know if any of it's
ever going to come to fruition, but the public likes
to hear that, and we've got to do that.

Speaker 3 (07:44):
We got to be big and bold.

Speaker 5 (07:46):
We need politicians at a party who are actually fun chres.
We have so many lemon suckers that people just tune
us out. And you know, they like folks who are
going to just sort of weigh it out. They had
some fun doing it in common sense. Common sense used
to be who our party was, and we've sort of
lost it. We got caught up with all of these
other issues that matter to so few people.

Speaker 1 (08:09):
Hey boy, is he right? That's their new phrase, the
Democratic Party the party of lemon suckers.

Speaker 3 (08:15):
Lemon suckers and like common sense.

Speaker 2 (08:17):
I don't think the Minnesota State Supreme Court went with
that whole common sense thing. They said, it's just fine.
It's like what it's not what's wrong with that? Okay, folks,
party of lemon suckers, party from people of all people.
All Right, we've got a lot to get to today.
When we come back, we'll talk about the rains that

(08:39):
great to be with you on this Tuesday afternoon, the
Rod and Greg Show on Utah's Talk Radio one O
five nine O ky n R. S Well, I want
to share this with you, right, now. But a little
bit later on uh, Jake Tamper and Alec Thompson are
making their book tour, talking to you know, their crisis
management team. They were on with Megan Kelly early today.
She shot about ten bullets into him. I mean she

(09:02):
just nailed them. And wait, you hear this?

Speaker 1 (09:04):
But now here here apparently they were on the show.
I guess Katie Kirk does some kind of podcast.

Speaker 3 (09:10):
Yeah, who cares?

Speaker 1 (09:12):
Yeah, but guess what they admitted. Guess who was running
the White House last couple of years. Have you heard this?

Speaker 3 (09:16):
No?

Speaker 1 (09:17):
Hunter?

Speaker 3 (09:19):
Oh?

Speaker 1 (09:19):
Please, you got to be kidding me. They're saying that
is a nightmare. They're saying that Hunter Biden was essentially
running the White House and the family while his father
was incapacitated. He was driving the decision making. He was
almost like the chief of.

Speaker 2 (09:36):
Is there another Hunter in that White House that doesn't
have a laptop that was left at a at a
repair place.

Speaker 1 (09:42):
Or left in the corner somewhere on a desk.

Speaker 2 (09:45):
You cannot tell me that guy who was in charge
of anything with what we know about that of all
the people that is.

Speaker 1 (09:53):
Well, somebody came clean with that. That is the Jake
Tapper came clean with it.

Speaker 3 (09:57):
That is there.

Speaker 1 (09:59):
Apparently in in this book which I haven't read yet,
and I'm debating nfl h to read the durn thing.
But apparently he's telling Katie Kirk that it was Hunter
Biden who was running the White House.

Speaker 3 (10:11):
You can't make it up. You cannot make that up.

Speaker 1 (10:14):
Yeah, yeah, I just are you kind of frightening?

Speaker 6 (10:17):
You know?

Speaker 2 (10:17):
I just do you feel like there might have been
some divine invention or some providence that we still are
our country if it was that disjointed and that crazy
of a time. I mean, what what enemy of our
state wouldn't see that as a prime time to come collect?

Speaker 3 (10:30):
Because what were we going to do? Biden?

Speaker 1 (10:33):
Wasn't Hunter Biden running.

Speaker 3 (10:37):
Yeah anything? If you know, if if you just know
even a.

Speaker 2 (10:40):
Little bit about that that laptop, you would not want
that guy running anything?

Speaker 1 (10:44):
All right? Well? Uh, joining us on our any hour
Newsmaker line right now is Phil kirk Enphil as President
of American Command. He wrote a terrific article about the
big Beautiful Bill which the President went up on Capitol Hill,
the lobby for today, but he hopes it includes a
certain act called the Rains Act. Very important and Phil
is joining us again, Phil, How are you welcome to
the Rodden Greg Show. Thanks for joining us, Phil.

Speaker 7 (11:07):
Hey, I'm doing great. How are you guys doing.

Speaker 1 (11:09):
We're doing well. Thank you for asking Phil. Why is
the Rains Act so important to be included in this big,
beautiful bill the president is working for right now?

Speaker 7 (11:18):
Well, this is really the key unfinished business from the
Tea Party era. And you know, we made a lot
of progress on a lot of things, but sedil regulation
was not one of them. Because you know, Obama has
these astonishing, shocking regulatory burdens. We thought they were going
to be a long standing record, and Trump reversed so
many of those Obama regulations. But Biden easily beat all

(11:41):
of Obama's records. He put back all the regulations that
Obama had and then some. In fact, he put about
forty seven thousand dollars per household and new regulatory compliance
costs across his four years. And so you know we've
got this problem right now. Trump can reverse all those
regulations again, but then what happens the next time? A
dinner back and they put them all back on and

(12:01):
then some against We have this wild pendulum now that
swings with the presidential election, which becomes even the higher
stakes than it should be because every aspect of federal
policy gets decided through the bureaucracy with these mega regulations,
and they just swing like a pendulum because Congress never
votes on this stuff and just it goes through a
rulemaking process and gets reversed and then reverse back and

(12:23):
so forth. So what the Rains Act would do is
it would say, for the major regulation, so ones that
are economically significant or the new version, in order to
try to fit in the reconciliation, build the ones that
have a significant impact on the federal budget outlook. But
either way you're talking about the big regulations, the significant ones.
I would say that for those regulations, the agencies can't
just directly impose them anymore. They've got to send them

(12:45):
as a proposal to Congress first, and they've got to
get affirmative and majority support by the House and Senate
and a presidential signature or a veto override before they
can take effect. So instead of this Congression Review Act
process we've had since the nineties, where Congress has to
try to get majorities to overturn regulations and then the
president can just veto that unless you just had a

(13:06):
presidential election. This would really fix the process. And the
way would I explain how powerful this would be is,
remember when we had the Cap and Trade bill, when
we had Obama policy and read and you had all
Democrats running everything, and they couldn't they couldn't pass it.
Even with all Democrats running everything, they got it through
the House by I think, you know, eight or nine votes,

(13:27):
and then the Senate would never even vote on it.
But you know, all of that global warming stuff from
that saled bill ended up being implemented by the EPA anyway,
and that that happened because the Obama administration later the
Biden administration could do those things without having a command
a majority vote in Congress. And even though you know,
even when their own party was in they couldn't get

(13:47):
these things done. And so if we could get this
process in, we would be able to stop the worst,
most expensive federal regulations. I believe, even when Democrats have
majorities in the House, Senate and control by the White House,
because we could bring public opinion to bear on Congress,
we'd have the ability to stop the worst of the worst.
And you know, when bad regulations do pass, you'd be
able to look up who voted for them and hold
them accountable come election time instead of it all riding

(14:08):
on the presidential So I think this would be massive
in effect. You could think of this as a freeze
on major new regulations and less they can command, you know,
specific approval in Congress, and a freeze on federal regulations,
according to the Heritage Foundation, would reduce the federal deficit
by one point one trillion dollars over the next decade.
So we have a very strong argument for including this

(14:31):
in a budget bill in the reconciliation process. And the
really good news is it's in the House bill right now.
The House Judiciary Committee put this in the bill in
their title as a bill, and nobody is saying attention
because everyone's so focused on the Ways and Means Committee
writing the tax title and the Energy and Commerce Committee
dealing with Medicaid. Nobody really paid attention that Chairman Jim
Jordan put this in the Judiciary Committee's title, and so

(14:53):
at least for now it's in. I've heard conflicting opinions
as to whether it has a chance of staying in
and the Senator will be immediately stripped out. Your Senator,
Mike Lee has really been the chief Senate cheerleader for
including this in the reconciliation process. And this bill was
originally a di mint bill in the Senate, and then
ran Paul took it over the last few congresses, and

(15:14):
Ran Paul is still the lead sponsor, but Mike Lee
has more or less taken it over. I mean, he's
been the main motive force in the Senate and so
he's got his arguments. He thinks he can convince the
parliamentarian to allow it to stay under the center rules.
Others have told me no chance it'll be stripped out immediately.
I don't pretend to understand the Senate, but I sure
hope it can stay in because it would be a big,

(15:35):
big improvement on the policy making process at the federal level.

Speaker 2 (15:38):
It's such an interesting concept and important aspect of the bill.
For here in just state of Utah, we do get
run rough shot over with federal regulations on federal lands,
which is sixty six plus percent of our state or
federally controlled lands. And I love this idea that if
it has a fiscal mode, if it's going to cost
taxpayers money, or if it's going to cost the budget

(15:59):
it's going to impact the budget, it has to have
an affirmative vote of the Congress. I like that for
two reasons. It makes sense. I mean, that's how state
legislatures work. But it puts it into that into that
the budget the budgetary column where you only need fifty one.
I believe you only need fifty one votes in the
Senate when you're talking budget. This would be certainly be
a budget related item, not the filibuster sixty votes. So

(16:22):
it gives it actually some some legs. Do you think
because do you think a it'll stay considered a budgetary
item in the reins Act and so it only requires
fifty one votes, And you were just saying, but do
you think we can really get fifty one votes in
the Senate to leave it in there?

Speaker 7 (16:42):
Well, this is kind of a trillion dollar question, right,
I don't know. I don't know. Look, I mean the
certainly Senator Mike Lee will have all of his arguments
lined up, and he's a pretty brilliant employer, and he'll
go to the Senate Parliamentarian and say, look, this is
written only to way to the process for enacting rules
that have an impact on the federal buns that Germain

(17:04):
to the budget process. This should be included, not considered extraneous.
The Democrats will have their arguments and say it's only
incidentally budgetary. And if the parliamentarian says that the budgetary
effect is only incidental, then we would need sixty votes
to keep it in the bill, and we're not going
to get sixty votes, so it would come out. So
this is I don't know the answer. This is the

(17:26):
this is the You asked exactly the right question, but
I don't think anyone knows the answer.

Speaker 1 (17:30):
All right, Phil, we appreciate a few minutes to time.
We'll see how this all all comes down. Thanks Phil.
All right, guys, all right, Phil Kirpin with the President
of American Commitment Important Bill. I know arguing this for
a long.

Speaker 3 (17:43):
Time he has.

Speaker 2 (17:44):
I don't know the argument against it, I really don't.
I don't know why you would say no, Why would
we want these regulations that cost money? Why would why
wouldn't Congress want the power of the person to retain
to have that power?

Speaker 3 (17:55):
I don't know why.

Speaker 1 (17:57):
You wouldn't vote for it, obvious lobbyist. I guess there
are some groups out there who want to keep it
in place.

Speaker 2 (18:04):
Yeah, it's not forget let me just say this, There
isn't a good reason why you shouldn't support that.

Speaker 3 (18:10):
It really isn't it?

Speaker 1 (18:12):
All right, Moore coming up on the Roden greg Show
in Utah's talk radio one O five nine K and
r ass. But a lot of people are looking at
this as a blow to common decency. Okay, the Minnesota
Supreme Court recently made the decision allowing a woman to
be topless in public, arguing that she did not meet

(18:33):
the legal standard of lewdness.

Speaker 2 (18:38):
So we are going to need some help here, some
walk us through this kind of this concept.

Speaker 1 (18:42):
Let's find out more about it. Joining us down our
any hour newsmaker line right now is a Goost may Ra.
He's a senior contributor at the Federalist also an English teacher.
A ghost. How are you what a bizarre story? This
one is a Goost?

Speaker 4 (18:55):
Yeah, glad to be here, and it is a bizarre
story at Minnesota. It just keeps getting bad news.

Speaker 1 (19:04):
What's the case all about? A ghost?

Speaker 7 (19:07):
Yeah?

Speaker 4 (19:07):
So, uh, there's a woman at a gas station parking
lot and I guess she was caught stripping. And this
was apparently the third report of such an incident, and
so she was taken in the custody because she was
violating the law against publican decency and exhibitionism, and the
apparently she lawyered up and the law. The case got

(19:30):
up to the Supreme Court of Minnesota, and you had
two liberal justices write an opinion that basically explained that
lewdness was a very subjective term and that she shouldn't
be punished for violating this law, which you know, just
seems unfairly applying to this person. And they wrote pages

(19:51):
and pages and pages, and they even like talked about obscenity,
like what is ubscene? You know, what is lewdness? So
it was a lot of like to me, you know,
I'm a high school English teacher, so it's like the
kind of thing you hear from a teenager. Well what
does this mean? You know, and it's just kind of silly,
But this is what passes for judicild prudence, I guess, you.

Speaker 2 (20:14):
Know, to your point, I've joked. And maybe it's not
funny that every fourteen year old boy is praised this decision.
They just think this is just truly the greatest verdict
ever handed down. But it's not that it was like
really warm that day. She's it looks like she's a
stripper by trade. It is her trade. It was that
you've noted the third time that she's been cited for

(20:34):
in decent exposure. Has common sense just left the conversation anymore?
I mean, it's we are the party of common sense,
we like to say, but it doesn't seem like this ruling.
You can find any common sense in any of the
facts as I tried to read them.

Speaker 3 (20:50):
I'm looking for.

Speaker 2 (20:50):
What I'm missing is are we just done with common
sense over there in Minnesota?

Speaker 4 (20:56):
Well to innocence, right, I mean, I think that you
take for granted the kind of prohibitions that we have established.
You take for granted that people don't strip in public.
You take for granted that you know, we don't use
certain profanity and language around kids and things like that.
So to me, it's just it's a lot of complacency.

(21:18):
I think they know what they're arguing and they know
what they're doing, but it's kind of like the fence.
You know, good fences make good neighbors, and or Chesterton
talks about fences like, well, don't tear it down unless
you know what it's for, and so I think, you know,
don't remove this prohibition against public in decency unless you
remember what it's for, and it really is to create
a wholesome, nice environment families and all members of society,

(21:43):
and to prevent exploitation, to prevent you know, objectifying women
and promoting kind of like sexual criminality.

Speaker 1 (21:50):
Yeah. Yeah, Are any of family or children protective groups
speaking out against this ruling or what? And if so,
what are they saying?

Speaker 8 (21:59):
Uh?

Speaker 4 (21:59):
Yeah, I mean I was tuned into the story because
there's a group I think that represents families and they
kind of called this out, just saying this is a
horrible decision, and they're right. So I mean, the families
get the shaft though, And that's the thing you have
to understand about things that push what qualifies as free speed,
like pornography, things that promote exploitation and this kind of indecency.

(22:21):
It's anti family and that's who always kind of you know,
take takes the hit. It's not you know, it's adults
of our children. And so the interest of adults trying
to make a quick book and you know, take advantage
of a situation. But again, it's it's trashy and it's
not healthy, It encourages like a poor morale port you know,
public civic duties.

Speaker 2 (22:43):
You know, So what's the precedent for something like this,
because I'm having a hard time figuring out if if
someone's in the exact same scenario that I'm reading about
and they're you know, showing on their taking their shirts
off there doing this when it would actually be considered
indecent exposure. If this is not what precedent, what dangerous
precedents could we see from a ruling like this.

Speaker 4 (23:06):
Well, I think it's kind of the type of thing
you see on only fans. It allows any person to
become to do their own pornography. So now anybody can
be their own stripper, and they can just go to
any corner depending on the neighborhood, depending if there's clientele,
and they can strip for money, they can strip for attention.
So it's just people that are addicted to that, to

(23:27):
the fame or the money or you know, any kind
of esteem like that. And so it's going to normalize
this type of behavior, and I think people that are
you know, exposed to it, uh, you know, they're going
to get more ideas about how to look at women
and how to and probably men. You know, men can
get in on this too.

Speaker 3 (23:46):
Go ahead.

Speaker 4 (23:47):
Sorry, Oh I'm sorry. Well, it introduces a very kind
of seedy element into society, you know. I mean, and
then we stop looking at the human body and we
stop looking at kind of this behavior. Our public sense
is kind of diminished because of this type of thing,
and you just type of everything is just something you
can use.

Speaker 2 (24:06):
Somebody needs to test this case at a Minnesota Twins
game nationally TELEVI show me how this is going to
work in Minnesota at a Twins game.

Speaker 3 (24:13):
Okay, just show me that it's not gonna work.

Speaker 2 (24:15):
It's not gonna be Okay, they're going to not let
that person do this in a public space.

Speaker 3 (24:20):
I'll bet not good.

Speaker 2 (24:22):
Anyway, I'm starting thinking about this.

Speaker 3 (24:25):
How are they pulling this up?

Speaker 2 (24:26):
Well?

Speaker 1 (24:26):
I could see it at a Minnesota Vikings football game.
But they used to play outside. Yeah, so they don't
play outside anymore. They have a dome stadium. A Goost
is always great chatting with you. Thank you for this story.
We appreciate it.

Speaker 4 (24:37):
Yeah, thanks for having me.

Speaker 1 (24:38):
All right on our news maker line. This a Goost
Mehra talking about this ruling in Minnesota concerning public nudity.
All right, Mark coming up on the Rod and Gregg
Show and Utah's Talk Radio one oh five nine, Kate
and our has. I think one of the members of
his cabinet, Greg who's really turning into a superstar is
Marco Rubio, Sectary of State. I think he's really stepped up.

Speaker 3 (24:59):
Yes, he has.

Speaker 2 (25:00):
There's so many I mean, he was before Congress, before
a Senate committee today, and there are so many different
clips of things that he said that I think are
incredibly powerful. And even when the Democrats just have nothing
left but cheap shots, I thought he handled those pretty well.

Speaker 1 (25:17):
Also, well he listened to this, he went into kind
of a heated verbal brawl with Senator Chris van Holland.
Remember Van Holland was the guy who went down to
El Salvador demanding he meet with Garcia. He finally did,
but said he was going to bring him home. He didn't.
But today him and Marco Rubio got into a bit

(25:37):
of a shouting magic to each other in the Senate.

Speaker 9 (25:39):
And I have to tell you directly and personally that
I regret voting for you for Secretary of State.

Speaker 1 (25:45):
I yield back.

Speaker 10 (25:46):
I respond, well, first of all, your regret for voting
for me, confirms I'm doing a good job based on
what that's dire clipping statement, Secretary, and I respond, mister Chairman,
you may.

Speaker 1 (25:56):
I didn't ask, Senator please let the secretary.

Speaker 10 (25:59):
I'd be happy to, but I can respond to his.

Speaker 3 (26:01):
Your time's up, Senator, and willfully used.

Speaker 9 (26:04):
I might add your your reminds me to not represent
the view of this committee.

Speaker 1 (26:08):
Well, Secretary, please, well, i'd like to.

Speaker 10 (26:10):
I can't respond to everything he said because much of
these are untrue, but i'll go through a few. First
of all, I'm actually very proud of the work we've
done with us AID. For example, I don't regret cutting
ten million dollars for male circumcisions in Mozambique. I don't
know how that makes it stronger and more prosperous as
a nation.

Speaker 1 (26:25):
I don't regret the psycho.

Speaker 10 (26:27):
Social support services I raised.

Speaker 9 (26:30):
Senator, i'd ask you to suspend.

Speaker 1 (26:33):
You had seven straight minutes.

Speaker 3 (26:35):
I used my time that way, mister Chairman.

Speaker 1 (26:38):
That's my right to please suspend that way.

Speaker 2 (26:40):
Secretary review Van Holland wouldn't give up, And what the
chair is trying to say is that you used your time.
You and and and once you're done, you're finished. You
don't get to just keep chirping back. You went and
insulted the Secretary of State at the very end. And
he's and he was very blunt, and his being upset
means makes him feel like he's doing the right job

(27:02):
because and this is remember folks, that that senator that
was saying that he's the one that took the little
trip down to El Salvador and had margariteas or whatever
he was happening with the with the wife beating, you know,
gang member, human.

Speaker 3 (27:14):
Trafficker gar Garcia.

Speaker 2 (27:16):
So uh, you know, I I just think that I
thought he handled that well. But he gave many examples
today where he feels the role of the State Department
is foreign age shouldn't be forever, it shouldn't be something
that you're you know, you can help where you need,
but hopefully those countries become self sustaining. And then he
talks about the practical nature of the State Department, where

(27:38):
people start going to National Security Council other places because
nothing could be done in the State Department is too big,
it was too slow, and he's working on that. He
had some great I thought he had some great discussions
and great comments in that Senate committee.

Speaker 1 (27:53):
Well, the state of Nebraska has done something you're open
to Nebraska, I have, Yeah, I have driven through Nebraska.

Speaker 3 (27:59):
You've driven right.

Speaker 1 (28:02):
I eight. The state is doing something that you don't like.

Speaker 3 (28:07):
No, I'm totally opposed to this. I don't know what
they're thinking.

Speaker 1 (28:09):
The state of Nebraska is now banning soda and energy
drinks from being purchased using snap funds or food stamps,
and they're saying no more, which I totally agree with. No,
I'm a I'm you're opposed to it. You're so hooked
on energy drinks, you can't you can't want no Nebraska.

Speaker 2 (28:30):
You can ban the soda, you can ban the cookies
and the and the snacks, energy drinks. How they wanting
to go get a job if they can't get a
good energy drink in their butd get their heart rate
up and just go out there and attack the world.
We want people to be employed. You gotta give them
a little bit of an energy, give them a little boost.

Speaker 1 (28:48):
Let them saying, if they don't have energy drinks, they
won't have the desire to go out and get a job.

Speaker 2 (28:52):
They might have a desire, but they might not have
the energy. So I'm just saying, give them all the
energy if they want an energy drink. Who wants an
energy drink to go? So on the in the couch
and just watch TV. No energy drinks means you're gonna
go out there and attack the world. Go get it, go,
get go, get yourself right. Really yeah, I'm all in
on the energy can't don't ban the energy drinks. Got
the one thing they need.

Speaker 1 (29:13):
The governor there likes that he said this. There's absolutely
zero reason, and I agree with him.

Speaker 3 (29:18):
He hasn't spoken to me.

Speaker 1 (29:19):
For taxpayers to be subsidizing purchases of soda and energy drinks.

Speaker 3 (29:23):
Soda, that candy, Yes, energy drinks. It's a it's like
sweet nectar.

Speaker 1 (29:31):
You know who you got. You know who you've got
hooked on energy drinks?

Speaker 3 (29:35):
Now I know who idea Ye, Carolyn, Carolyn.

Speaker 1 (29:39):
Came in yesterday doing the show. She had it like this,
no monster size of an energy.

Speaker 2 (29:43):
Why because Team Hughes we used that was our fuel. Okay,
we worked all day, all night and that was our fuel.
When I was there, that was the gasoline that kept
the engines running.

Speaker 3 (29:53):
Oh it was good.

Speaker 1 (29:55):
We never stopped all right when we come back. Wait,
do you hear Jake Tapper's ex nation about why he
covered up what was going on with Joe Biden. You
talked to Megan Kelly today was a great, great interview,
and we'll let you hear so get your reaction to
it coming up on the rotting great shows.

Speaker 8 (30:11):
It was.

Speaker 2 (30:22):
I guess even the Hollywood types when they had a
watch party when Biden, you know, was just losing his mind.
That Rob Ryner remember him, me head from all in
the Family, He director of other stuff. He was at
a watch party with Kamala's husband m Hoff and Doug
m Hoff and went after him and said we're gonna
lose because you were to lose a whole country because
of you, and just screaming at him.

Speaker 3 (30:44):
I love it. It's it's fun to hear.

Speaker 1 (30:46):
Shall we take him innute? Though? To remember George went
norm George, she did a great job of it today. Uh,
Norm On Cheers died today at the age of seventy six.
You were saying he was a youngster when he started.

Speaker 3 (31:02):
He was in his thirties.

Speaker 2 (31:03):
Like he looked like he was an older male man
back then, but he was in his thirties and you know,
but yeah, so he's I think I'm telling you, seventy
six is just not that long in the tooth as
far as I'm concerned.

Speaker 3 (31:14):
Thank you shocking me here.

Speaker 1 (31:15):
Thank you well left now. Well, here's what happened every
time Norm walked into the bar.

Speaker 6 (31:21):
I haven knew everybody.

Speaker 2 (31:24):
Lay down?

Speaker 11 (31:25):
What do you know?

Speaker 7 (31:26):
Not enough?

Speaker 1 (31:28):
Haven't anybody no.

Speaker 6 (31:31):
Man that stuff?

Speaker 9 (31:35):
Better give me a fallow one, cause I like it
did need anybody?

Speaker 4 (31:43):
How you doing?

Speaker 1 (31:45):
Cut the small duck and give me a beer.

Speaker 6 (31:49):
He an't beer with it.

Speaker 3 (31:53):
I was life drinking your Norm.

Speaker 6 (31:55):
I just ran over his.

Speaker 1 (31:56):
Dog the fines from show.

Speaker 3 (32:02):
It was on Thursday nights.

Speaker 2 (32:03):
They'd play Cheers and yeah, there was always a great
one liner came came running in for the end of
his day. Beer.

Speaker 1 (32:10):
Didn't they enshrine his barstool somewhere always sat that it
went to like the Smithsonian Institute or.

Speaker 3 (32:17):
Something one would hope it was. There was a cultural iconic.

Speaker 1 (32:21):
I've been to the Cheers bar in Boston. He's still
there today. Yeah, it's right right there today. He's been there.
It's kind of cool. I've been there. It's kind of cool. Yeah,
it's kind of cool.

Speaker 3 (32:29):
A bunch of lushes.

Speaker 1 (32:30):
It doesn't look anything like it does on TV. No,
it's not close, no, no, but just seeing the outside
of it with a sign, it's kind of cool. Do
you remember the best one liner he ever had? They
asked him how he was when he walked in the
bar and he says, well, it's a dog eat dog
world and I'm wearing milk bone underwear.

Speaker 3 (32:47):
That is actually a famous one.

Speaker 1 (32:48):
I remember that best one. I remember that, did you like?
I mean that was a big I mean NBC they
had the Cosby Show, you know, and they had Cheers
in the eighties.

Speaker 2 (33:00):
Yeah, no, it was. It was musty TV. It was fun.
I love Cheers growing up.

Speaker 1 (33:04):
I just watched it and they still play it today.
You can catch reruns of it today, and you know what,
even today, they're still fun.

Speaker 3 (33:10):
Yes, it's a good show, really good.

Speaker 1 (33:13):
Cast of characters. All right. Jake Tapper and Alex Thompson
got the new book out about what happened to Joe
Biden and the cover up of the Biden campaign. They
have been on their interview tour and really ran into
a buzzsaw today, I think Greg. Her name is Megan
Kelly and she was not going to throw them any

(33:33):
type of softball questionster of fact, I think she shot
bullets at him because I want you to hear this
exchange today and what they finally admit. Here's Jake Tapper
Alec Thompson together with Megan Kelly on her podcast show today.

Speaker 12 (33:47):
You ignored the freeze up that he had at the
Juneteenth celebration. You ignored what happened to the G seven
when he wandered off and Georgia Maloney, Prime Minister of
Italy had to go find him. You ignored the free
up out of the George Clooney LA fundraiser. You didn't
cover it. You only covered it after the debate, after
George Clooney wrote his op ed, Jake, nobody made you

(34:11):
do that. There was your network at every turn was
telling us those were quote cheap fakes, and you were
not combating that narrative. CNN was actively misleading us on
what our very eyes were showing us.

Speaker 3 (34:27):
That's the truth, that's the record. I will.

Speaker 1 (34:32):
Acknowledge that after I was named.

Speaker 13 (34:37):
Moderator cooderator of the debate, I tried to make sure
that my coverage was fairly vanilla, both about Trump and
about Biden because I just wanted to get to the debate,
and Alex and I are here to say the conservative
media was right, and conservative media was correct, and that

(34:58):
there should be a lot of soul searching, not just
among me, but among the legacy media to begin with
all of us for how this was covered or not
covered sufficiently.

Speaker 1 (35:08):
Well, was that an admission or what greg the conservative
media was right?

Speaker 3 (35:13):
Yeah?

Speaker 2 (35:14):
Yeah, but and you know it's I'm giving him no
points for that because again we saw it with our eyes.
We know, I mean, he he saw it, and they
just he can say that I was trying to be
vanilla towards both. He couldn't do and the media couldn't
do anything that would, in their mind, would help Trump
at all and anything critical about Biden, which is amazing

(35:36):
to think of how low his approval rating was with
a media that could say nothing but good things about him.
It shows how how bad he was. But you know,
I just think that that for him to I hope
that book doesn't do well commercially. I hope he doesn't
profit from him being part of that cover up and
now admitting it, Like you know, it's it's pretty obvious,

(35:56):
and now you know that he goes even further where
the media wants to or the bidens now and admit
that he has has cancer. This isn't one that showed
up overnight. You covered this really well yesterday. I was
listening to the program. But it doesn't matter. You can
have well wishes for Joe Biden as a person, the
fact that this was this health issue existed.

Speaker 3 (36:17):
The fact that they.

Speaker 2 (36:18):
Hit it, you cannot They can't explain their way out
of that, and they can't tell you, oh, don't be
callous and talk about it.

Speaker 14 (36:26):
Now.

Speaker 2 (36:26):
We have to be We have to respect all that
is is them trying to get because when your answer,
like Chuck Schumer, is we're just moving on, when did
you know we're moving on? It is such an indictment
for all of them that they had to do something
to try and distract the American public.

Speaker 1 (36:43):
My question is, Greg, how do Democrats now address this
credibility cancer? Speaking of cancer, I mean, how do they
address I mean, you know, we're joking at the beginning
of the show today that there's talk about sending someone
of t Biden's team, Biden's people out on a YUS.
That's not a going but how did the Democrats address

(37:04):
this credibility question. Van Jones said on Sunday, it may
take the party a long time to get over this.
How does the American people, the American people trust any
Democratic politician out there who stood beside Joe Biden during
all of this, knowing in the back of their mind,
Greg that they're saying to themselves, something's wrong with Joe.

Speaker 2 (37:27):
So batcha aungers are gone. She's she's a Democrat, by
the way, but she has been She says, she's a
maggo Democrat. She asks that question rhetorically, I don't know,
we have yeah, we can't play this clip real quick.

Speaker 3 (37:38):
Let's let's have a listen, so that.

Speaker 11 (37:40):
Even Democratic voters understood that he was too old. And
it is their utter contempt for Republicans, for people who
vote for Trump, for working class people, for the normies
of this country who are looking at this, looking at
the footage and saying this is not okay.

Speaker 3 (38:00):
And then she asks the question, and this is the
question that you've just.

Speaker 11 (38:03):
Asked, What are you in the media going to do
to correct the character defect that has allowed you to
think you are so much better and so much more
important than average working class Americans? That you can tell
them not to believe what they're seeing with their own eyes.
And of course, Megan, this all has to do with

(38:24):
the class divide and the fact that journalists are part
of the elites. That the vast majority of American journalists
are in the top ten percent. These are people who
have degrees from elite institutions, which actually make them much
worse at their job because they think they are so
much smarter and so much better and so much more

(38:45):
educated than average people.

Speaker 6 (38:48):
The people.

Speaker 1 (38:49):
Wow, she goes off to you, right, she's spot on on.

Speaker 2 (38:52):
That, and she's saying that these journalists they're writing the
American story and they and they hate America. She makes
that point, and it's true. If there is a condescension
for everyday people that you get from this media in spades,
it is they just they know better. They want to
socially engineer our lives. They and so I just I

(39:14):
don't know how they self correct from where they are now.
They are so deep in it in terms of where
they are politically, who they want to see win elections
for president and the Senate and the House, you name it, governor.
They don't know how to be journalists. I think in
the profession of which you spent your entire one hundred
year career.

Speaker 1 (39:32):
In the journalist and the party. I have an idea
as to what they could do, and I'll share that
with you when we come back on the Rod and
Greg Show and Utah's Talk Radio one O five to
nine knrs. We're discussing right now how the Democrats can
address their credibility problem, and I mentioned before the break,
I have an idea. The idea is very simple, Greg
clean house. Yeah, is that easy? I mean, get anybody

(39:54):
involved in this Biden conspiracy, any of the co conspirators
out there, and identify who they are and get them
out of the party.

Speaker 2 (40:04):
But that gets pretty wide because I would say Jem
Tapper's one of them. I when you listen to him
go after which Trump was at the daughter in law
that it was Laura Laura, and the way he attacked
her for questioning his mental cognitive abilities. With what he's
writing today, I don't know how he can do it
with a straight face because he was so vicious in

(40:25):
the way he attacked her. She had no basis for saying.
Way she was saying is what he he argued.

Speaker 1 (40:30):
Well, listen to what listen to how he treated her.
This was during the campaign, and listen to how he
treated Laura Trump.

Speaker 13 (40:35):
You made this comment earlier in the campaign about Joe Biden.

Speaker 1 (40:38):
Let's take a listen to that.

Speaker 15 (40:42):
Every time he comes on stage or they turn to him,
I'm like, Joe, can you get it out?

Speaker 8 (40:46):
Let's get the words out.

Speaker 6 (40:47):
Joe, you kind of feel bad for him.

Speaker 13 (40:49):
How do you think it makes little kids with stutters
feel when they see you make a comment like that.

Speaker 15 (40:56):
First and foremost, I had no idea that Joe by
and Ever suffered from a stutter. I think what we
see on stage with Joe Biden, Jake, is very clearly
a cognitive decline. That's what I'm referring to. It makes
me uncomfortable.

Speaker 8 (41:09):
You are.

Speaker 1 (41:12):
I think it's so amazing.

Speaker 15 (41:13):
It's so amazing to me that try and figure out
an answer.

Speaker 1 (41:16):
A cognitive decline.

Speaker 15 (41:17):
You're trying to tell me that what I was suggesting
was I think that.

Speaker 13 (41:20):
You were mocking his stutter. Yeah, I think you were
mocking his stutter. And I think you have absolutely no
standing to diagnose somebody's cognitive decline.

Speaker 1 (41:28):
Is now here's a different Jake Tapper today with Megan
Kelly claiming that he called Laura Trump after this and apologize.

Speaker 13 (41:36):
Knowing what I know now, obviously I feel tremendous humility
about my coverage that Laura Trump interviewed, for example, et cetera.
She saw something, She saw something that I did not
see at the time, one hundred percent. And I own
that I did ask Joe Biden to be transparent about

(41:58):
his health records in and in twenty twenty. I did
ask him about the fact that voters then was thought
that he.

Speaker 1 (42:05):
He was not transferred at all. He did not see
what Laura Trump saw and what every American out there
saw when it came to Joe Biden.

Speaker 2 (42:14):
And that's where all the credibility goes out the window,
because we all saw it, we all knew it. And
and he says, she saw something I didn't. What is
she a detective?

Speaker 3 (42:22):
What is she?

Speaker 2 (42:23):
Was this a CSI episode? No, everybody, everybody saw it.
Everybody knew it. And he was so outraged, he was
so he was so dismissive that she would suggest such
a thing and attached her motive to something out in
left field about stuttering that nobody's ever accused the man
of having a problem with we have a problem with

(42:43):
the fact he's not all there. Yeah, and we'd we'd
set it for years and we would be met with
that kind of disdain from Jake Tapper and the rest
of them. And now they're saying, well, we didn't know,
well we were kept away. Oh they were you know
the you know, his cabinet didn't really have a lot
of interaction with him. Well, that's always safe, that's always
good when the commander in chief doesn't see his cabinet

(43:04):
very often. But even that is just an absolute lie.
Then when you go back and look at like Jim
the head of the Joint chiefs of Staff, General Millie,
and he makes the argument, this man does his homework,
he asks good questions, he's there, he's on top of it.
How does he walk back what he said to us
or to the American people in those interviews without looking

(43:24):
like a stone cold liar?

Speaker 1 (43:26):
Yeah?

Speaker 2 (43:26):
Or just what you can't judge someone by what their
condition really is? Are you that poor of a judge?

Speaker 1 (43:32):
What do they say, Greg, You can't unsee what you've seen,
you can't unhear what you've heard.

Speaker 3 (43:38):
That's true.

Speaker 1 (43:38):
The American people saw this time and time again with
Joe Biden. He stumbled right, he fell down. He didn't
know how to get off a stage. He didn't know
how to answer a question. He couldn't keep his mind
focused on one issue. We all saw it, we all
heard it. We said the guy shouldn't be president of
the United States. But the Democrat we're going, oh, he's

(44:01):
just fine.

Speaker 3 (44:02):
Yes, I mean, and then you find out, yeah, this
is great.

Speaker 2 (44:05):
Then you find out that he has cancer, that they
never disclosed the American people, and that there's no possible
way that those PSI tests and scores weren't well known
and understood by that by Biden, his family, all of them,
and now they want to use what they concealed from
the American people as some sort of excuse or reason
to not question any of it. It's untoward for us

(44:26):
to talk about this now that this diagnosis has finally
been revealed to us, that they've known about for years
and years. I think all of it. You can feel
sorry for him, and you've actually said it in terms
of elder abuse. You've felt sorry. You've worried about how
Joe Biden and his family's been propping him up while he's.

Speaker 3 (44:44):
Been not nerve.

Speaker 1 (44:45):
Je Biden.

Speaker 2 (44:46):
No, you've You've made this comment to me privately, and
we've talked about on the air. Well, you can add
colon cancer to it, it doesn't change the reality that
there was a massive cover up and he wasn't in charge.
And then that begs the question, well, then who was?

Speaker 1 (44:59):
Well, that's a question we want to ask our listeners tonight.
We've got to take a news break. But if there
is I think the most obvious question that everybody has
on their mind, Greg is who is running the country?

Speaker 7 (45:10):
Yes?

Speaker 1 (45:11):
Yeah, that's what we.

Speaker 3 (45:12):
Like to topics.

Speaker 1 (45:14):
There are different topics and different questions, So we want
to hear from you tonight. What questions do you have
in mind about everything that's gone on here? The obvious
one is who was running the country? Our good friend
Carolyn Fippin Yes, who filled in for you yesterday? Yes,
on her ex page X Post Today posted this question

(45:34):
about Someone has brought up what happened to Woodrow Wilson
when he was President of the United States post. Yeah,
he suffered a stroke and his wife and his chief
of staff basically ran the country for two years and
nobody knew about this. Well, is this just a repeat
of the years of Woodrow Wilson. We have a right
to know what questions do you have out there?

Speaker 2 (45:56):
And according to her post, and this is an interesting
historical fact, I didn't know anything about. It called into
question everything in those two years of his presidency in
terms of whether it was a good idea.

Speaker 3 (46:06):
Who was doing it?

Speaker 8 (46:07):
Not?

Speaker 2 (46:07):
Certainly not the people, the American people that elected were
making those decisions. And it put a very very negative
cloud over those last two years.

Speaker 1 (46:15):
How many people were saying, that's not the Joe Biden.
I know he was these far left policies. That's not
Joe Biden. So who was it?

Speaker 7 (46:23):
I know?

Speaker 2 (46:23):
And the scary part is you can be his cavalier
and you can and take as many risks because you
know that it's not your name attached. If something goes wrong,
it's not your legacy that'll ever be touched, because you
get to be this anonymous lever pulling levers to the
demise of this country, and no one will ever know
who you are. Well, I want to know who they are?

Speaker 1 (46:41):
Ye, all right, your calls, your questions that you have
for this eight eight eight five seven egs erre a
one zero triple eight five seven O egs. They're a
one zero more of the Rod and Greg Show coming out.

Speaker 2 (46:51):
Let's go to the smartest listening audience in all the land.
Let's go to Charlie, who's been patiently waiting in provo. Charlie,
Welcome to the Rod and Greg Show.

Speaker 16 (47:00):
Hey, Greg, Hey, for what it's worth. I did miss
you yesterday.

Speaker 3 (47:03):
Charlie, thank you, thank.

Speaker 16 (47:05):
You, my my. My question went slightly differently than than
than what you guys were talking about, so it's a
little bit off topic. But you know, if you look
at the if you look at the collateral damage of
the last four years with you know, Biden administration, a
lot of Democrats in powerful positions, I think term limits
might be the way to get rid of a lot

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of this because, you know, you just look at the
consolidated power that these guys have, and you look at
the basically the the the ethics of prostitutes. With guys
like Jake Tapper, you know, they're going to follow the money,
they're going to follow the power. And you know, if
if these people didn't have that much time, you know,
forty whatever years it was that Biden had in power,

(47:46):
they didn't have that much time to accumulate power, then
these guys wouldn't have anything to cover, and I think
the the ethics of the people in power would just
be better. They'd be more street level.

Speaker 8 (47:58):
You know.

Speaker 3 (47:59):
That's probably the best argument for limits i've heard.

Speaker 1 (48:01):
I think I'm a I'm not a big fan of
term limits, but I understand the reasoning behind it.

Speaker 2 (48:06):
Something it's that accumulation of power, especially when you see
on the Democrat side, the Nancy Pelosis and those that consumers,
those guys that have accumulated over time.

Speaker 3 (48:14):
I think Charlie brings in a great.

Speaker 1 (48:15):
Yeah, good point, Charlie, thank you. Let's go to Tim
and south Weaver tonight here on the Rowden Greg Show. Tim,
how are you? Thanks so much for joining us.

Speaker 17 (48:22):
Great guys, how are you doing.

Speaker 1 (48:24):
We're doing well, thank you.

Speaker 7 (48:26):
So.

Speaker 17 (48:26):
My my question is, how likely do you guys think
that what we witnessed was during the Bush and Chainey years.
After nine to eleven they admitted that they were going
to put a contingency of government into effect, which pretty
much goes against our entire belief in the republic. And
we might have seen that go into effect when Biden
was mentally incompetent, who knows how many years and ago,

(48:50):
and really that would be them admitting that the three
eagle heads of Vezer's Eagle were probably the guys in
charge of the government, that we don't need you, guys,
you know, we can do it without.

Speaker 2 (48:59):
You, you know, Tim, I think guys like these neo cons,
like Bill Crystal joined the Democrats. I think you saw
a lot of the neo cons and the Democrats kind
of merge to Tim's point where they just wanted foreign conflict,
they wanted wars. There's a great money, there's a lot
of money to be made in the military industrial complex.

(49:19):
I think there's a lot to be said for powerful
money interest running, especially if you have a guy like
Biden who doesn't even have a legacy to create or
to protect because he's not all there there is.

Speaker 1 (49:30):
In my opinion, Greg and Donald Trump, you can call
it the deep state, you can call it whatever you want,
but I think there's a shadow government that in many
ways runs this country and we don't know about. It's
powerful people who have access to money, who have access
to all kinds of things, intelligence, information, whatever. But I know, well, run,

(49:53):
I think those guys in Washington right now, I don't
think they run the I'm talking about the elected officials.
I think there is an unall elected government in this country.

Speaker 3 (50:01):
I think Dove showed it to us.

Speaker 2 (50:03):
And I think it's the billions and billions of dollars
that have gone to these non government organizations that are
actually government organizations, unaccountable to Congress or anyone else, that
have been actually profiting and then pursuing their own political
interests completely outside of our process. And somehow these propagandist
regime media made Elon Muskin Doge the enemy. But they

(50:25):
have the receipts, they've caught, They've shown how this money
is flowing, and it is that shadow government, I believe.

Speaker 1 (50:29):
Well, look what happened to must today. He said out,
I'm done.

Speaker 3 (50:32):
Yeah, And I don't blame him.

Speaker 2 (50:34):
If Congress isn't going to take the receipts he's produced
for fraud, waste, and abuse, and that's all he's talking about,
and they don't have the political courage to do it,
why would that man spend another day doing it?

Speaker 1 (50:44):
Yeah, I'm with you.

Speaker 2 (50:46):
Let's go to Nick, who's in Herriman. Nick, Welcome, thanks
for waiting, Welcome to the show. What say you?

Speaker 6 (50:53):
How's it going.

Speaker 14 (50:54):
I'm curious I was. I'm a veteran, I still had
two more years my contract. I would have been out
in twenty twenty six, and someone decided to boot a
bunch of us for not getting a vaccine. And I'm
just wondering. I'm more curious who made that call. Who

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would have been that person?

Speaker 2 (51:17):
You know, Nick is a great question, and I would
I it could be is that guy's I think it's
as dangerous as you get. But do you realize Nicks
one example? But we lost so many in our military
over this unreasonable demand for this vaccine and special forces
as well. That that left the Navy seals a lot
of them that said not, we're not doing it, and

(51:38):
it set this military back. If you if you're an
enemy of the state, that's exactly that would be your plan.
That would be their plan for our military to have
them all leave because you're putting unreasonable conditions about them
like that.

Speaker 1 (51:50):
You know, another point I want to make, Why do
I think Greg that Barack Obama plays a significant role
in all of this? Yeah, you know, he had it
eight years, but he wasn't done changing or transforming the government.
He got his puppet Joe Biden in there and Biden
high one time. I think seventy percent of Biden's staff

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former members of Obama's staff.

Speaker 2 (52:13):
Well, and then by that House and in Georgetown, and
he's holding court every day with cabinet members. He probably
I'll bet you now the way we know about Biden
not seeing those cabinet members very often, I'll bet you
Obama was meeting with those cabinet members ten times more
often than Biden ever did.

Speaker 1 (52:27):
Could have been.

Speaker 16 (52:28):
JR.

Speaker 1 (52:28):
Is in Salt Lake City, wants to talk about this tonight, JR.
Welcome to the Rodin Gregg Show.

Speaker 7 (52:34):
I just got a quick comment on term limits. I
think it was a huge mistake by the American people
to allow term limits in one branch of the government
without limiting the other two.

Speaker 2 (52:44):
Yeah, so president gets eight years, gets two terms, and
then he's out, and then Congress gets a sitting there
for forty years, fifty years.

Speaker 14 (52:51):
Yeah.

Speaker 1 (52:52):
Well, what about the Supreme Court?

Speaker 7 (52:54):
Yeah?

Speaker 1 (52:54):
Well another interesting question that does.

Speaker 3 (52:56):
Judiciary for me is I think it's become very problematic. Yeah,
I do. I think that this is law fair.

Speaker 2 (53:03):
I think this is I think that they're activists judicial activist,
and I don't need it on either side. I don't
need it to be judicial activists for conservative causes. I
don't need judicial activists for liberal causes. We I mean,
I'd like to see originalists be on the bench. But man,
I'll tell you the judiciary is is anymore really a concern?

Speaker 8 (53:24):
More?

Speaker 1 (53:24):
Coming up on the rodden, Greg Show, what questions would
you like answered about what's going on with Joe Biden,
his health and his cognitive abilities or lack thereof. We've
got someone we'd like to hear yours as well. Eight
eight eight five, seven oh eight zero one zero. Have
we got a treat for you coming up after our
news at the top of the hour? Well, three hours
a day is a treat enough, right?

Speaker 7 (53:43):
All?

Speaker 1 (53:43):
Three hours? Or a treat twice? Yeah? But at six
oh five Kirk slicked O a good friend. He had
some very strong opinions about people who have a moral
obligation to forgive and forget Joe Biden, very very strong
opinions on you.

Speaker 2 (53:59):
I'm not a fanboy, don't really want to be a
fan but this guy, I'm as close to being a
fanboy as you're going to get when I get to
talk listening to Kurt Schlicker. It's like a vulcan mind meld.
It's like he's a vulcan. He put his hand on
my head and he just says everything that's in my brain.

Speaker 1 (54:14):
I love this guy.

Speaker 2 (54:16):
He is so much fun to listen to. I follow
him on on X and he's just a good thought
leader in this country.

Speaker 1 (54:22):
Very good. Eight eight eight five seven eight zero one zero.
We're taking your calls now on the questions that you
would like asked about what happened during the tumultuous Joe
Biden years. We've got a list though, we saw list
today and there are some very good questions on here.

Speaker 2 (54:35):
Greg, Yeah, and some of them reflect some of what
our callers wanted to know. Who's commanding the military on
the decision about the vaccine, but just generally, who's making
these decisions Afghanistan? Why did you leave billions of dollars
of equipment back there for the Taliban to have?

Speaker 1 (54:49):
Did you? Did you see? Pete Haigseth announced today Defense
Secretary he's launching a full commission investigation what happened in Afghanistan.

Speaker 2 (54:57):
Not one person was demoted, not one person was fired
over the the biggest debacle in American history, military history.
Who who was truly the acting president? Who was making
these decisions on a daily basis, knowing that he his
cognitive decline even now, his physical having cancer, and whatever
medications he took may have magnified or exacerbated issues like

(55:18):
cognitive ability, as fatigue, you name it. Who was who
was the acting president?

Speaker 1 (55:25):
I still think Barack Obama? Yeah, opinion.

Speaker 2 (55:27):
Here's another question. Who knew the truth that he was
not in charge at all and wasn't telling anybody?

Speaker 3 (55:36):
Who was it?

Speaker 2 (55:36):
Because there's there's the there's guilt by you. You see it,
you should know it. You remember the media, you should
report it? Who was in on it? Because you had
to have a plan on how to keep Biden away
from enough people where the secret doesn't get away from you.

Speaker 3 (55:51):
So who are those people to be?

Speaker 2 (55:53):
He's got to be Jill has got to be in there.
Hunter absolutely to be in there. You know, they sister
his family. There had to be staffers that that knew
he just was not ready to be spoken work with,
talked to, you know, interact with people. And they they
kept it a secret. And then who was telling what

(56:15):
lies and breaking the law to do what they did?
Because It's it's not legal to not have a president
of the United States and to and to have some
weekend at Bernie's for four years.

Speaker 3 (56:23):
So you just can't do this. Who is it?

Speaker 2 (56:25):
And I think the final question is how will those
that enabled this whole thing to happen where someone wasn't
in there wasn't didn't have the capacity to be president.
Those people that that came up with this idea and
and executed it, how will they pay? How will they
be held accountable for what they did to the American

(56:47):
people by having a president that really wasn't president.

Speaker 1 (56:51):
Let's go back to our phones market from West Point
tonight on the Rod and Greg Joe Hi, Mark.

Speaker 5 (56:57):
Hi, I just just heard what you said and picked
up the phone. This is the rat boy, So that
tell you who I am. I wanted to make a
caveat to what Greg just said there with nobody was
held accountable. I will agree with him to a point.
I can't go into great detail because you met me

(57:20):
as to why I'm saying. What I'm saying is when
you go back and they actually do the entire investigation,
what they're going to find out is the interference by
the State Department within the Department or Defense and not
allowing them to do their job. The simple fact that
senior leadership within the Department Offense made decisions to get

(57:41):
one hundred and twenty seven thousand people out of there
despite the State Department, that was incredible. Let alone the
fact of the crews that did it. And we have
crews right now that are going through some really rough
times because of the decisions that was made and the
limitations put in by that State Department. So I just

(58:01):
want to put a little bit of a caveat in there.

Speaker 1 (58:03):
All right, Thank you, Marcus, Quickly go to the phones,
Tom's and Gransville. Tom, you've got less than a minute.
Go ahead, Tom.

Speaker 14 (58:11):
I think Barack Obama's in charge.

Speaker 7 (58:13):
He always has been.

Speaker 1 (58:15):
Yep, Yeah, I agree with you, Tom. I I think
if he hasn't been directly involved Greg indirectly through his aids. Well,
I remember they call, oh, Barry, what do we do here?

Speaker 2 (58:28):
And Barry would tell him, well, there were there were
there were stories about about the the limousines and the
then and the suburbans that were all parked outside of
his Georgetown residents and they were in secret service combing
everywhere he was meeting on a regular basis with cabinet members.
He he was holding court one hundred percent in fact,
and people would ask me, why doesn't the media cover
that this, this former president is holding court with the

(58:50):
current administration every single day and nobody wanted to cover.

Speaker 1 (58:53):
Isn't he the only president who never left Washington after
after being.

Speaker 3 (58:58):
Yes, that I know of, I don't know.

Speaker 1 (59:00):
Unless he went home.

Speaker 3 (59:01):
They did, and they did what they to.

Speaker 1 (59:03):
Do by a very expensive home. Ye all right, mare
Coming up Power number three, kurch Schlicker has a thing
or two to say about Joe Biden and the people
who feel we should forgive and forget that's coming up
to stay with us.

Speaker 2 (59:17):
Well, you know, you're kind of the boss man here.
Thanks for the holiday or you're World Day holiday boss.

Speaker 1 (59:23):
You're welcome anytime we can get a break. Had a
call when Carolyn was here yesterday. Greg had a call
from one of our great listeners out there with a concern.
She says, you know, do we have to talk about
Joe Biden and everything that's gone on. He's no longer
a player in all of this. He's no you know,
the power, He doesn't have power anymore. Can we just
simply move on. And I think there are some people

(59:45):
out there who feel that way.

Speaker 3 (59:47):
Yeah, not me, And I'll tell you why. I think it's.

Speaker 2 (59:49):
I think we live in the country he he he,
either by you know, O mission or commission he helped create.
We are in this country is in a very very
dangerous place. We are and President Trump is doing and
why President Trump was elected is to turn it around.
But the chaos and the things that happened in this country,
you have to understand what it is we're battling and

(01:00:11):
what we have to overcome to really understand the level
of work required of this current administration. You can't do
that without explaining how not asleep at the wheel, not
able to be behind a wheel of a car.

Speaker 3 (01:00:27):
This this president was.

Speaker 1 (01:00:28):
Well, I think what it happened, Greg is the size
of government and what we do has been building for years, right,
but it was given a turbo boost under Joe Biden.
I mean it all, we all will come went, WHOA,
what's going on here?

Speaker 2 (01:00:41):
And it's going to work in this way. You just
went and completely abandoned the border without any enforcement at all.
You had over ten million that that number varies, but
whatever that number, anyone feels comfortable counting as illegal entries
into this country the way that judges are ruling right now,
there's not enough time. There's not enough day this administration.
There's not enough time to deport those that came in.

(01:01:04):
So they win, they're going to have if you had
one hundred and thirty thousand votes that changed, they stay
long enough, if they have the right to vote, they
will take those swing states and they will make them
permanently Democrat for a long time. If because you, this
president won't be able to deport all those that the
Biden administration allowed in, that's something we ought to note.
Listener can't call their listener messaged in here someone one

(01:01:28):
of the questions or issues any doctor physicians who lied
about Biden's health or failed to conduct comprehensive medical evaluations
should lose their medical license.

Speaker 1 (01:01:36):
Point.

Speaker 3 (01:01:36):
I think it's one hundred percent true.

Speaker 1 (01:01:38):
Point, Well, do we have a moral obligation some people
say we do to forgive and forget the Biden lines. No,
Kurt Schulichter is a senior columns to tell me, Kurt
he had my opinion on this. Kurt, thanks for joining
us tonight on our Any hour Newsmaker line, What advice
would you give to people who are resting wrestling with themselves?
How do I handle this Biden story?

Speaker 8 (01:02:00):
Well, the first thing I need to do is remind
everybody that I have to be FCC.

Speaker 2 (01:02:05):
Compliant with you guys, which is tying your hands behind
your back and maybe putting almos on you. I know this, Kirk,
And you're a brave soul to come on the show.

Speaker 3 (01:02:15):
Thank you.

Speaker 6 (01:02:16):
Yeah.

Speaker 8 (01:02:17):
Well, I'm gonna I'm going to try and pick my
way through the landmine of sec finds uh the the
you know, I I think you should react in the
manner you see fit. If you wish to uh uh uh,
you know, offer charitable good wishes to Biden and his family,
that is on you. If you wish to decline doing that,

(01:02:40):
knowing uh Joe Biden's horrendous record of hatred and in
fact death to Americans, and in fact I actually represent
for a short time the family of one of the
Marines is incompetence got killed in Afghanistan. So I don't
presume to tell people how they should react, except to

(01:03:01):
the extent that don't fall for the idea that because
this guy is sick and he and everybody around and
get a free prostate ass from accountability for the web
of laws you.

Speaker 2 (01:03:14):
Know here here, And I think that you've articulated this
when other issues have come up and the regime media
and the leftists want to shame a discussion.

Speaker 3 (01:03:23):
Oh this is untoward.

Speaker 2 (01:03:24):
We shouldn't be talking about this, And you have made
this point over and over again where you missed the
memo where you're not allowed to talk about the relevance
of this, whether it's his cognitive ability or his physical
having cancer and them hiding it from the American people.
You basically break it down, and I think accurately into
two different types of people, my favorite the cereal Fredocon

(01:03:47):
the invertebrates to just embrace weakness and submission and silence
and get shamed out of their position because they don't
want to appear to be a meanie. And I agree
with you. But there's the other side of it. Are
the people that are in on this and they've been
fully the American people for a long time, and they
use these tactics to try to change the subject and
so explain to our listeners why they should feel very bold,

(01:04:11):
confident and it is not a moral failing to continue
to question how on earth this man was allowed to
so called be our president with these kinds of physical ailments,
be it cognitive or physical. Why should why should we
all still speak up and express our concern about this?

Speaker 8 (01:04:28):
Well, the first thing is, I'm not going to outsource
my moral judgment to the same people that kept this
human egg plant in the presidency for four years as
he staggered and as a terrible disease grew inside him.

Speaker 7 (01:04:45):
Uh.

Speaker 8 (01:04:46):
These people have nothing to teach me morally. They're moral literates.
You know, I get really tired of the Fredo cons
You remember Fredo'.

Speaker 7 (01:04:57):
Like everybody says back, I.

Speaker 8 (01:05:02):
Agree, the ones who wanted to man gentlemanly manage our decline.
You know that these are the people who brought me
to the conclusion that no one should be allowed any
position of influence in conservative politics unless they've been in
a fist fight. Yeah, the the tofu spine guys want

(01:05:25):
to avoid any kind of confrontation. It makes things very,
very awkward out at the country club or at the
cocktail parties. Uh. When you know us up at the
peasants decide to stand up for our rights, and you
know we we had a right to a president. Now,
whether you believe Joe Biden was elected fairly or not,

(01:05:49):
the the the fact is, it is the It is
a coup. It is the opposite of democracy to install
a empty husk filled with nothing but dusk and you know, incompetence,
and to have our country run by a bunch of
greedy courtiers who are interested only with their power, prestige

(01:06:12):
and ability to plunder, which is what we have. This
is the opposite of democracy. They whine about January sixth,
right on democracy. Okay, that, as I said in the article,
that was a rowdy afternoon. This is four years where
no American was represented, Yeah, in the presidency, whether you

(01:06:33):
voted for this guy or not. Yeah, So you don't
know them any deference, You don't know them any respect,
and they certainly don't get to dictate what you can
or can't say. Look, there's a chain of command, guys.
It goes god American citizen and then everybody else is
somewhere below. They're not eager.

Speaker 1 (01:06:56):
Let me ask you this. I mean, in light of
this and what we know has gone on for the
last four years, doesn't that really raise the question was
he ever in good enough health to even be president
of the United States.

Speaker 6 (01:07:08):
No, no, no, this guy.

Speaker 8 (01:07:09):
Look, this guy is not only senile, but his semility
is built on a foundation of stupidity. I mean, you know, everybody,
there are a lot of us, a lot of us
out there who've had the nightmare of seeing a vibrant, intelligent,
exciting person taken down by this devastating disease and they've

(01:07:29):
become something else. Okay, Biden was always an idiot.

Speaker 4 (01:07:35):
It's not It's not.

Speaker 8 (01:07:38):
Like anyone went, wow, yeah, he's much what's worse, he
was always a fool and a clown and a corrupt pervert.
And I think I'm being gentle with him as he's.

Speaker 2 (01:07:46):
Sick Swedish soft. Shoot, you know, you just you're not
you know, yeah, it is. It's it's the kind of
gentler Kirk Kirk we're hearing from right now.

Speaker 8 (01:07:55):
Well, look, look, we need to start calling things what
they are.

Speaker 7 (01:07:59):
Okay.

Speaker 8 (01:07:59):
We need to start aren't calling men in dresses perverted weirdos? Okay?
We need to start calling people who want to take
all our money and our power and our abilities as
very freely as the communists they are. We need to
call things by their true name. Joe Biden was a disgrace.
He was the worst president of the last hundred years.

(01:08:19):
And that was a century that included Jimmy Carter, which
is saying something, Okay, and we it is important that
we put aside.

Speaker 7 (01:08:29):
You know, we got to.

Speaker 14 (01:08:30):
Be nice, We got to be for everybody.

Speaker 8 (01:08:31):
Hug No, this is a time for truth. Truth above all.
We are commanded to be truthful and I think we
should be.

Speaker 1 (01:08:42):
You know the thing, Kurt, thank you for joining us,
Kurt Schlickter on News. You know the thing I love
about Kirk. He holds things back. Yeah, he's a bit
of violate Wilting Violet. He's very diplomatic.

Speaker 2 (01:08:55):
Well you never know where he's coming from. Yeah, So
just a reminder, we have a little flashback because this
is I'm jealous of this moment. I want one of
these moments in my life someday, one of these stuffy
British political shows. Ian Dale he's doing this British show
called Leading Britain's Conversation and he has invited on Kurt Schlickter,

(01:09:15):
but he doesn't know who his guest is and so
he's a he's on four right. We had we had
the you know, the calm Kirk. But he was on
one in this show, this British show. Let's have a listen.

Speaker 1 (01:09:27):
See the memo about when the timing's right.

Speaker 9 (01:09:30):
All I know is every time some psychotic leftist murderer
goes on a shooting spree, within forty seconds, I get
told I need to disarm myself because me being able
to defend myself from criminals and tyrants, along with tens
of millions of other Americans, is the cause of yet
another crime.

Speaker 1 (01:09:48):
So I'm gonna need to know what the rule is.

Speaker 9 (01:09:51):
In the meantime, I'm gonna go with this.

Speaker 1 (01:09:53):
Can you get this numb skull off our program? Please?
I'd never want to speak to him again. He is
the kind of person the Mikes America look ridiculous.

Speaker 2 (01:10:02):
No no, we love him, Yeah, no, no, we He's
our guy.

Speaker 3 (01:10:06):
Okay.

Speaker 2 (01:10:07):
If you don't like him, you don't like Hughes, you
don't like rod Arcat, so get over it, get over yourself.

Speaker 1 (01:10:12):
I love that, Kurt. We'll never let you live that
one down. Thank you, all right, mar coming up the
Roddy Greig Show here on UT's Talk Radio one O
five die can I.

Speaker 3 (01:10:21):
Asked leave me alone? You know you know.

Speaker 2 (01:10:23):
I'm just I had a day off and you guys
all had so much fun without me. You know, I'm
just trying to recover here, trying to get my self
esteem back.

Speaker 1 (01:10:30):
Well, if we hurt you crying out loud, uh, I
don't really care, Margaret, thank you. Right, But there was
one listener out there who said he they missed you,
he missed you.

Speaker 2 (01:10:43):
Yeah, Charlie, I remember, Yes, I told you the smartest
listening audience and all the lame. Yeah.

Speaker 1 (01:10:50):
Yeah, I don't know about this, all these studies on
climate and what they happened down the road I raised
questions about. But I like to share him with the audio. Okay,
this one I think is worth talking about. A study
put out by I can't see some energy firm right

(01:11:11):
that US electricity needs are slated to rise twenty five
percent by twenty thirty and seventy eight percent by twenty fifty.
I can kind of believe that the demand for more energy. Yeah, no,
do you do you agree?

Speaker 15 (01:11:28):
No?

Speaker 1 (01:11:29):
Yes, that quizical look like huh.

Speaker 2 (01:11:31):
Yeah, I know, I agree with you because of what
they say. The demands for energy are for technology, for AI,
for things like that. In fact, it's it is such
a heavy demand and to keep pace under our normal
energy generation circumstances, it's it's deemed impossible. You're seeing a
lot more discussion about the modular nuclear sites that they

(01:11:52):
can create or they can develop, and that some of
these tech endeavors are going to have to generate their
own power or to be able to be successful because
the grid that feeds into the population just won't be
enough to it won't be able to provide it.

Speaker 1 (01:12:08):
Are we From everything I've read, Utah is kind of
taking the lead on a lot of this with those
nuclear modules.

Speaker 2 (01:12:15):
We are and so there's I I am aware and
I'm not even close to it. Probably three different efforts
going on in the state of Utah, and the state
wants to actually win the race on how to allow
for the power generation for the next economy, the next
with technology and AI and all of that. And I
do think that there's a there's a lot, there's a

(01:12:35):
lot of smart things happening, especially when you're staring at
nuclear because it's clean. I think a lot of people
don't know. I think the University of Utah has a
nuclear power plant and there it's a small one that
you have. So there's just there's ways to do it
that makes sense, and we should have been doing it
all along. It's it is zero emissions, it's it's it's
the way to go. So I think you'll see more
of it. And I think Utah is a smart state

(01:12:59):
and that it's regular Tory climate to allow for these
things to happen. They're not going to be prohibitive.

Speaker 1 (01:13:04):
Yeah, So what I think is interesting about power France
has a very well functioning nuclear power supply in France.
You know, guess who's now looking at France saying can
you help us out? Germany? Yeah, Germany starting to say
what about this idea of nuclear power? But yeah, you
know the problem in the US greg first of all regulation,

(01:13:27):
Oh yeah, secondarily investment. If you're an investor, are you
willing to stick your neck out well for nuclear power?

Speaker 2 (01:13:35):
So that is the environmentalists wheelhouse is if they can
delay and and just and just bog things down and
the course up capital investment. Capital can't stay stagnant. It
needs to move, It needs to be invested, and people
need to move where they can invest and see a return.
And so if you get environmentalists that can that can

(01:13:55):
slow you down through regulatory requirements, lawsuits. You see investors
usually shy away from environments like that because they want
to see a return on their investment. They can't let
that money just park without it being committed and invested.
So that's that's how the enviros kill every smart idea
is that they do it through overregulation and litigation.

Speaker 1 (01:14:18):
How would you describe this past winter? Was it a
hard winter? An easy winter? Do we get a lot
of snow? Little snow? How would you describe this winter?

Speaker 2 (01:14:25):
It seemed like an average winter to me. It didn't
seem heavy. It didn't seem like it was a particularly
tough winter, but it didn't seem like it was a
warm season. We don't get the snow in the valley
that we used to, which I'm no complaint for me.
Years ago I bought a nice snowblower. This year I
used it three times, I think, Yeah, I didn't. I
used it a couple of times. You know, there was

(01:14:45):
a time though, in the nineties, I could golf in
the forties. Albeit it was in the forties, but I
could golf every every month during the wintertime.

Speaker 1 (01:14:54):
Yeah, I bring that up. The Rocky Mountain region recorded
as third busiest snow season since it began keeping records
back in nineteen seventy eight. Who the Rocky Mountain region.

Speaker 3 (01:15:03):
You know, well look at us, you go, ooh, Rocky
Mountain recon.

Speaker 1 (01:15:08):
Yeah, us ski areas and we have several really good
ones here in the state of Utah. Tallied around sixty
one and a half million ski visits during the twenty
twenty four twenty five season. Just think of all that
tax money coming in.

Speaker 3 (01:15:23):
I love it.

Speaker 7 (01:15:24):
I love it.

Speaker 2 (01:15:24):
No, it's just good. I mean, I think the snowpack,
everything's been looking I think very good. No, I think
it's been good. I think I think are what we
one hundred and seventeen percent of snow that you needed
and up in the mountains this year. And I think
Southern Utah is not enjoying that kind of you know,
their reservoirs and their snowpack wasn't where it needed to be.

(01:15:44):
But up here, I think we did well. And that's
where you have good reservoirs and store it for you
know how it's how cyclical it is.

Speaker 1 (01:15:51):
Mark, Thank you, all right. More coming up on the
Rod and Greg Show in Utah's Talk Radio one oh
five nine k NRS.

Speaker 2 (01:15:57):
President Trump's been on Capitol Hill, uh, working with the lawmakers,
addressing concerns, talking them through it. And this man's being
the leader that that few could do could do the job,
and he is bringing across the finish line enough votes
to get it passed.

Speaker 1 (01:16:14):
Did you see what hear what he had to say
after the meeting today. No, there's a lot of love
in this meeting.

Speaker 3 (01:16:21):
Is he sarcastic?

Speaker 1 (01:16:22):
No? No, he said this meaning was filled with a
lot of love.

Speaker 2 (01:16:25):
That's funny. Oh, you know, look he's he is trying
to beat back. And this is where these members of
Congress they kind of they're so afraid to cut the Medicaid, medicare, uh,
social Security, but they're not cutting the cutting the fraud,
the fraud which is the worst and in the waste
the abuse. And so Trump came out and President Trump

(01:16:46):
came out in one of those press Congress with the
speaker saying, there is not a human being who's real
who's being harmed by this. This is the this is
cutting out the fraud. And so I don't know why
any member of Congress would be afraid by the way
Democrats are going to rip on every Republican that votes
on it there without regard to whether you do some
of this now, this whole delay some of these things

(01:17:06):
till twenty nine.

Speaker 3 (01:17:07):
Why who don't delay it?

Speaker 7 (01:17:09):
Get it?

Speaker 3 (01:17:10):
Get it done now?

Speaker 1 (01:17:10):
Who cares? Well, let's talk about immigration for a little bit.
The Supreme Court yesterday cleared the Trump administration to revoke
the temporary protected status for over three hundred and forty
thousand Venza whalens, reigniting fears of mass deportations again. So
what does this mean? Joining us on our newsmaker line
or any our newsmaker line. And Daniel di Martino, he

(01:17:31):
is a founder of the Dissident Project, also with the
Manhattan Institute. Daniel, thanks for joining us tonight, your thoughts
on this bill and what's going to happen?

Speaker 6 (01:17:40):
Well, what simply what this means is that the Battle
administration had extended the legal status of some six hundred
thousand Venezuelans in the US into October twenty twenty six.
That was in two batches, and the Trump administration as
soon as they got in Secretary of Homeland Security Christino
and wanted to reverse that, and they wanted to take

(01:18:00):
away the legal status of Venezuela specifically about half of
that batch that was set to expire. In April, a
judge blocked that decision in California, and then you know,
there was an injunction. They ended up going to Supreme Court,
and the Supreme Court said, while the case is being decided,
the Trump administration can take away their legal status, which

(01:18:21):
means they can begin deporting people while the case is
being decided, even if it ends up being decided against them.
I think it's a you know, I'm not sure what
the legality is of the decision. I do know that
this is not a productive policy from the Trump administration
simply because they are not going to report three hundred
thousand people to Venezuela. They can barely report a few

(01:18:44):
dozen people to Venezuela given the situation with the regime there.
So why would they take away their legal ability to
work and pay taxes in the country, which is just
going to reduce tax revenue.

Speaker 3 (01:18:57):
You know, I.

Speaker 2 (01:19:00):
Would say within the last couple of years, the emergence
of Venezuelan gangs, and even here in Utah, we have
a multi jurisdictional task force, we have a presence, we
have a trendy Aragua presence here in our state. It
is a growing concern to Americans. Do you think any
of the people that have received this status legal status

(01:19:21):
from the Biden administration shouldn't don't deserve it, or shouldn't
have it because they may be involved in gang activity.

Speaker 6 (01:19:29):
Well several things. Of course, everybody who is a gang
member should not just not have legal status, but if
they are gang members, they should be in prison, right, yes,
And the legal status doesn't protect them from anything like that.
In fact, any sort of crime invalidates the temporary protected
status for an individual. So the use of trend or

(01:19:51):
I was an excuse to strip away the legal status
of three hundred thousand people is just nonsensical. They have
and continue to deport people from trender Agua, who, by
the way, have no incentive to apply for these legal
status in the first place. Nobody, to my knowledge who's
been reported as a trender our member has had these

(01:20:11):
legal status. They were just illegal board acrosses who never
registered because registration means a background check, means going in
person to a government office, means giving them your address,
means biometrics, and they don't want that because they don't
want to be caught for criminal purposes.

Speaker 7 (01:20:30):
Yeah, let me.

Speaker 2 (01:20:30):
Follow up though, it sounds that I'm not assuming that
every a Salvadorian gang member has been actually caught for
a crime, gone through a court hearing, has been convicted
and then eligible to be deported. I think there are
there is gang presence in criminal activity going on that
has not been adjudicated, where there's sentenced to prison. So

(01:20:53):
with that being the climate that we're living in right now,
isn't it. I mean, it sounds like you're saying that
the only gang members we have are the ones that
are sitting in jail, and that they wouldn't apply to
this because they would be automatically they would have violated
their status and would be deported. Don't you think there's
some gang activity going on where and they're not in jail?

Speaker 6 (01:21:13):
Absolutely? I mean, but what share do you think of
three hundred thousand Venezuelans are gang members. I think the
total number of people they are even trying to apport
as gang members is probably in a few hundred people,
none of whom that they have accused of being gang members,
not convicted, have had temporary protected status. So it just

(01:21:35):
doesn't seem like a reasonable policy where they can do
it case by case. This is simply because they don't
believe in the policy, and that's okay. We can have
an argument about that, but it has nothing to do
with Turnner.

Speaker 1 (01:21:45):
How let me ask you this, Why were they granted
this status in the first place. Was it because of
the fear of the regime in Venzuela right now? Why
did the administration, the Biden administration open all of this
to them in the first place.

Speaker 6 (01:21:58):
That's a great question. So it began in twenty twenty
one when the Trump administration, on his last day in office,
Trump granted what was called the third and forced Departure,
which is a form of protected status to all the
Venezuelans who had arrived before January twenty of twenty twenty one,
and they could not be deported and they could apply

(01:22:20):
for work permits. Then the trumpet then divided administration extended
that under TPS, and then they granted it again, not
just in twenty twenty one, but in twenty twenty three.
So all the Venezuelans who are arrived before July twenty
twenty three are covered. This includes Venezuelans who are here
on different visas. This includes Venezuelans who cross the border.

(01:22:40):
This includes Venezuelans who were parolled by plane into the
United States legally. Approximately half of the Venezuelans covered entered
legally and half did not. Many of these Venezuelans depending
a Salem claims, so even if they lose TPS, they
still have depending a Salem claim. The reason I think
mainly is that you simply not the port people to Venezuela.

(01:23:01):
Right now, there are no planes being the border to
Venezuela because their government in Venezuela does not accept people back.
And so why would you, you know, not let them
work legally if they're not going to be sent back
to their home country. I think that that's a pretty
logical question to ask.

Speaker 2 (01:23:17):
So I so some of the people, why would you
go through a port of entry and seek asylum and
a court date legally? If you're acknowledging that half of
those that are receiving this protected status bypassed the port
of entries and a legal status and came here undocumented,
why would you ever document if you could get enjoy

(01:23:38):
that same legal status coming here undocumented.

Speaker 6 (01:23:42):
Well, because if you just crossed the border, and then
in order to if you just cross the border illegally, right,
and then did not apply for asylum because that implies
a cost through hiring lawyers, Right, so that's going to
cost you thousands of dollars. If you then get TPS,

(01:24:03):
that only costs you like five hundred dollars and you've
got a work permit, so you just don't apply for
asylum because it's much more costly.

Speaker 2 (01:24:12):
I thought you meant that they came across without a
work permit at all. They came across illegally, but they
were granted a legal status of protection. And my question
was if you didn't have to go through any cost
at all, and you could get across into the United
States without any documentation or anything, then what would be
the motivation for anyone to do it legally through asylum

(01:24:33):
or through a work visa? Why not just do what
I think you said half I've done, and that is
to come in undocumented. I don't even know why you
have a legal process if half of the number have
come through illegally.

Speaker 6 (01:24:45):
Well, you know, the reason people are coming to the
US is simply because the US is where people can
make the most income. I mean, there's no other reason,
of course. I mean everybody who crossed the border was
also you know, passing through other country is that they
could have stayed at and they chose not to because
they're just not as good as the United States, and

(01:25:05):
so there's a lot of problems with their silent system.
There's a lot of problems with border security, and a
lot of this is just stemming from the Biden administrations
signaling that they would just let anymore anybody in. Right,
but many of the Venezuelans who did come in came
under sponsored by Americans on their parol process and they
were approved, and they're also trying to strip that parole.

(01:25:28):
So you know, it's a complicated situation. After they get in,
it's very hard to send them back because it's Venezuela.
So they're not accepted back with the with the salvad
ordeal of sending them to that jail that's only for
the gang members, so the people they alleged to be
young members, that's only for a few hundred people at most.

(01:25:48):
Sol Salvador cannot take three hundred thousand Venezuelans right like,
this makes no sense. And even if the Trump administration
attempts to begin sending this three hundred thousand people to Venezuela.
You have to go through immigration courts, and that means
they need to give them a court date. There are
only seven hundred immigration judges in the country, and unless

(01:26:10):
cong responds more immigration judges, the cases are not even
going to be decided while the drub administration is in office.
So by the time a Democrat is in power again,
they're going to grant itps again. All these people are
going to receive their work permits again. And all you
achieved was reducing tax revenue and work on the workforce
for four years.

Speaker 1 (01:26:29):
I don't if I agree with and much of what
Daniel was saying.

Speaker 3 (01:26:32):
I know one hundred percent. Thank you, by the way,
thank you, Daniel.

Speaker 2 (01:26:35):
But no, look what he's saying is let everyone illegally
because we've gamed it up with only so many immigration courts,
that will ride it out till we get another Democrat
and they'll let them.

Speaker 3 (01:26:45):
They'll stay.

Speaker 2 (01:26:47):
Here's the issue I have with in our discussion with him.
Vert nice guy, I mean, game to come on the show,
I guess, but he goes to the logical extreme of
three hundred thousand. Right now, now, Tom Holman and the
Trump administration, they are they are looking for the most
dangerous criminals. Now, anybody that's here illegally, they're not going

(01:27:07):
to get to stay if they come across from they're
here illegally, they're going to deport them. But they there's
no one, there's no one saying that they're three hundred
thousand they're going to be deported tomorrow or making a
straight face case for that. But of those that are
somehow have unrightfully and I would I would argue some
legal status to be here after coming here illegally, especially
if you're if you're affiliated with gangs and you're doing

(01:27:28):
those things, you need to be deported. They people that
came illegally need to be deported, period. But I do
think that there is a decision tree happening where the
most dangerous to the public are the ones that they
are prioritizing.

Speaker 1 (01:27:40):
And that's what that's all they're asking for permission to
be able to do that. Yep, all right, Mark, coming
up it is the Routing Greg Show on Talk radio
one oh five nine k NRS. You know the theme
of the Democrats has been what since Donald Trump took off,
as he's a threat to democracy, won't uphold the Constitution
that's correct.

Speaker 2 (01:28:00):
Correct, he's a fascist Nazi. There's other variations of it.

Speaker 3 (01:28:03):
Bs.

Speaker 1 (01:28:03):
Apparently Americans don't agree. New pull out saying that Donald
Trump protects the Constitution better than Joe Biden. I would
say fifty three percent of the American the American people
think that Donald Trump is doing more to protect the
Constitution than Joe Biden never has. Do you kind of
get a sense that the Democrats are wrong almost on
every one of their talking points?

Speaker 2 (01:28:24):
Yeah, and it's the ones that they're honing in on.
We don't sit and talk about democracy, democracy endlessly like
they do. The threat to democracy he is going to
take away, They say it, and they are the problem.

Speaker 1 (01:28:35):
Yeah.

Speaker 2 (01:28:35):
They project everything that they're doing, they project, they try
to project on the Republicans, and I think the American
people are catching wind of it now. I do think
when you hear that Elon Musk is getting is not
going to get is involved with a super pack and
he's not going to do as much. I do think
that the propaganda from the regime media has had its
effect negatively on him, and that's too bad for us.

(01:28:56):
I think that's a win on their side. When he
decides to withdraw, which she's looking like he wants to
do so. Let's not underestimate the regime media. They still
do push propaganda pretty successfully, but boy are they being
proven wrong in real time.

Speaker 1 (01:29:11):
Another pull out today, Trump's approval rating surging to fifty
five percent. This is mid East visit, his Mid East tour.
I think that Peace and Prosperity tour did a lot
for Donald Trump.

Speaker 3 (01:29:23):
And think about this.

Speaker 2 (01:29:24):
It had to happen without getting any attention by regime media.

Speaker 1 (01:29:28):
Yeah, they ignored it completely. Yes, they wanted to talk about.

Speaker 3 (01:29:30):
That plane exactly.

Speaker 1 (01:29:31):
The plane all right, that doesn't tonight and shoulders back.
May God bless you and your family this great country
of ours. Wing Man Wednesday starts tomorrow at four

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