The Travel Show: The Great Migration; South America

Episode Transcript

Speaker 1 (00:04):
You're listening to the Travel Show. Welcome to another award
winning edition of the number one travel show in the nation,
The Travel Show. I'm Larry Gelwicks to get Away Guru.
We really do have a great show lined up for
you today, some Hawaii and Mexico air and hotel specials.
A special guest has been resurrected and coming back. I'll

(00:25):
tell you about him in just a minute, and he'll
be bringing us the highlights of South America. And I
already know who it is and why you should never
throw your airline boarding pass away, why we love Costa Rica.
Dan Hone will be calling in in the second hour
with an Israel and Holy Land update.

Speaker 2 (00:45):
We really do have a lot of fun.

Speaker 1 (00:47):
I want to welcome back, how do I say as
a guest, because he was my co host for years
and years, one of my best friends in Lice, Carlos Feda, Welcome.

Speaker 3 (00:57):
Back, Grassis.

Speaker 1 (00:59):
Larry almost oh Moaby and mo.

Speaker 2 (01:02):
Goes to usmeal.

Speaker 1 (01:04):
Oh well, I speak the high Madrid societal Spanish. You
of course speak farm worker Spanish, but that's another excuse me.

Speaker 4 (01:15):
Larry.

Speaker 3 (01:15):
Well, you grew up.

Speaker 2 (01:17):
In Guadalajara on a green pepper farm.

Speaker 3 (01:21):
Yes, sure, listen.

Speaker 1 (01:24):
I invited Carlos seriously, one of my dearest friends who
has found that retirements not has cracked up to me
and I said, why didn't you just come back as
a special guest appearance. I told him he's welcome on
the show anytime. But we'll be talking about Latin America.
I will tell you, in all seriousness, there is no

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one I have ever met that knows more about Latin
America South America than Carlos. He has been given awards
by countries for his knowledge and promotion, has a great
love for Purdue. I know you do that, yes, I
and Patagonia, which of course is a jacket. It is

(02:09):
so you grew up in Argentina. Yes, I did well, Carlos.
It's good to have you back.

Speaker 3 (02:14):
I'm eighty five years ago, that's.

Speaker 2 (02:17):
Right now, speaking of your home country Mexico. And by
the way, it's a joke.

Speaker 1 (02:21):
He grew up in Argentina and we often talk about
how Argentina tried to steal the Falkland Islands from other England.

Speaker 3 (02:28):
No, no, no, no, they started from us.

Speaker 1 (02:32):
Oh, this is just like old times.

Speaker 3 (02:34):
This is it is.

Speaker 1 (02:35):
Okay, But we are going to talk about air and
hotel specials to Hawaii and Mexico always popular. I maintained
the two best travel values right now. Number one, hands
down are cruises.

Speaker 5 (02:50):
Yes.

Speaker 1 (02:51):
Number two are the Mexico all inclusive resorts where you
have your airfare, transfers, resorts, meals, drinks, tips grew two
these all in one, very very affordable price. So what
do you like in Mexico if you and Karen were
to take a holiday to Mexico, Well.

Speaker 6 (03:10):
We did. We went to Porto Yota. That's my favorite
favorite place. All the activity. Okay, well, first of all,
I stayed once. I stayed in the Real Palace, which
is an amazing thing.

Speaker 2 (03:24):
That hotel.

Speaker 6 (03:24):
I love that hotel and it's beautifully I have a
wonderful viewer, you know, a window looking over the sea
that was That was just an amazing lead. Their food
was excellent, and that's what you mentioned, Larry, that I
like everything is included.

Speaker 1 (03:40):
Yeah, and you could literally go without a peso. Some
of the things that I love in Porto artists walking
on the Malikan Malicon. Yeah, it's it's a one mile
boulevard pedestrian only right along the waterfront, and it's shopsands,
canteen as it's outdoor musicians and entertainers, it's food, it's drink.

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It's a very festive atmosphere. And at the far end,
if you walk from the city side down to Nuestrona
Senora de Guadalupe.

Speaker 3 (04:16):
Yeah, that is an iconic church.

Speaker 6 (04:19):
It's one of them everybody recognizes because he has these
huge crown on the top of the very It's.

Speaker 1 (04:25):
The Church of Our Lady of Guadaloupe. I always go there.
As you said, it's an iconic, historic, very colonial architecture.
I love Zono Romantica. That's a beautiful area, the Romantic Zone.
And there's a restaurant there, the Margarita Grill, not Margarita Ville,

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but Margherita Grill that I always go to. The food
is fantastic, the prices are very affordable, and in the
evening they have both indoor and outdoor seating. In the
evening they have strolling musicians singing and playing guitar. It's
just a great atmosphere there. But close by are the
Sierra Madre mountains. And you know, one of my favorite

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mountain villages is San Sebastian. Now San Sebastian, believe it
or not, was founded in the year sixteen o five
by the silver miners and today it's colonial buildings. Hassiende's
church is a central mercado or plaza, restaurants, boutiques.

Speaker 2 (05:29):
It's just so much fun.

Speaker 1 (05:32):
Well, I've talked on this show before about something that
I call secret airfares.

Speaker 3 (05:40):
Well, yes, those are the two operato fairs.

Speaker 2 (05:44):
That's the legal name for you.

Speaker 3 (05:45):
That's right.

Speaker 6 (05:46):
And you know the interesting thing is this. You can
call an agent. They won't even know.

Speaker 2 (05:50):
Where the airline agent.

Speaker 3 (05:52):
No, they will not know what that is.

Speaker 1 (05:54):
That's why I call it secret airfare because if you
talk to the airline, they know nothing about So airlines
know from historical data how many seats will likely be available.
If you ask Delta Airlines, say for the one o'clock
flight to la on March fifteenth of next year, they're
going to tell you within a few percentage points, barring

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a canceled flight or something like that, historically, how many
seats are going to sell. Well, once that door on
the plane closes, all opportunity to sell unsold seats or
unsold inventory vanishes. So what the airlines do is they
come to a handful of tour operators travel companies, Morris

(06:39):
Columbus Travel being one of the few and the only
one that I personally know of in the Utah Inner
Mountain area, and they say, listen, we're going to give
you a super deep discount.

Speaker 2 (06:53):
With one catch, Well.

Speaker 6 (06:54):
There are some There's something else hilarry about this, and
that is that the af fares are not published.

Speaker 3 (07:02):
Like you said, it's.

Speaker 6 (07:03):
Under the car you can't find Remember, I remember that
there were contract We have some contracts in the office
with a line of airlines now theirlines and many of
their that comes together with a package.

Speaker 1 (07:16):
You can't tell. In other words, on these secret airfares
or tour operator fares, we cannot sell it air only.
It has to be bundled or package. It could be
a car rental. Usually it's a hotel and you don't
have to have the hotel or car rental for the
entire length. I know people who have their own condo

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or timeshare in Hawaii and they'll get the secret airfare
with say a two day on the cheapest car rental.
They never even picked the car up. You don't have
to do it. You have to pay for it because
the airfare with that two day car rental is usually
significantly less. So let me give you an example for

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WYOFTA that we were talking about a solid first class,
four star, all inclusive, and I looked at some early
winter dates, specifically December fourth, for six days, five nights.
You can extend it and of course the price is
adjusted accordingly. This is at the Crown Paradise Golden Port

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to Wayofta. That's a very nice resort, four star, first class.
If you buy the package for six days almost a week,
that's air transfers round trip from the airport to the resort,
the resort meals, drinks, most activities, tips, gratuities, taxes, fees,

(08:42):
I mean literally everything. It's one thousand and seventy six
per person. I mean in the winter time. Now, what
if I bought that individually? In this case, the airfare
would be six hundred and ninety dollars. The transfers would
be one hundred and thirty dollars round trip, sixty five

(09:05):
bucks each way.

Speaker 2 (09:07):
The resort.

Speaker 1 (09:07):
They're having a super sale on right now. It's about
half price. So I use the super sale four hundred
and ten bucks. That comes to one thousand, two hundred
and thirty dollars where we're The package with the secret
airfare is one thousand and seventy six.

Speaker 2 (09:25):
What that is, Carlos, is one.

Speaker 1 (09:27):
Hundred and fifty four dollars per person times two three
hundred and eight bucks. You get everything and save three
hundred because you're using the Morris Columbus Secret airfares. Now,
I should say that all rates and promotions are subject
to availability and change at the time of booking.

Speaker 6 (09:48):
I have a question, Larry, do they include in these resorts?
Do they have this special specialty dining too?

Speaker 5 (09:55):
Oh?

Speaker 1 (09:55):
All of the meals are included, and they have a
variety of restaurants. One of my favorites is that many
of them have a taco truck. Maybe it's psychological, but
the tacos do taste different than they do at some
of our fast food places. Did I say that politely?

(10:18):
I have some grace. Hey, when we come back, Dwayne Baird,
who recently returned what about a week ago, with our
Great Migration African Safari, is going to come on and
give you a perspective of.

Speaker 4 (10:34):
What it's time go on a safari.

Speaker 1 (10:37):
A great migration with the Getaway Gururu and Morris Columbus
Travel Jumbo and Welcome to the Travel Show. I'm Larry
Gelwi's the Getaway Guru and Jumbo is the native greeting

(11:01):
in East Africa, where I was just last week, you know,
about a week ago. I've joined today by Carlos Fieda,
my amigo of many many years and the ultimate Latin
American expert. We'll be talking to Carlos about some of
the highlights of South America in the next segment, but
right now I'm going back to Africa and want to

(11:25):
introduce and welcome to the show my friend day Dwayne Baird,
who was He and his wife Judy were with me
on the Great Migration Safari. Dwayne, Welcome to the Travel Show.

Speaker 4 (11:39):
Thank you, Larry. It's going to be with you.

Speaker 1 (11:41):
It's it's you know, as much fun as we had.
Isn't it nice to come home from travel and sleep
in your own bed.

Speaker 4 (11:48):
It's bad, it is, but it takes some time to
get over the jet lags. But other than that it
was great.

Speaker 7 (11:55):
Well.

Speaker 1 (11:55):
I actually have a recipe for jet lags called I
over dose on diet coke and forced myself to stay awake. Listen,
you and Judy joined me on the Great Migration Safari.
What was your overall impression of the Safari.

Speaker 4 (12:14):
It was amazing to me. And what was amazing was
that every day, I mean we were there for I
believe twelve orths of teen days, and every day had
gotten better and better with day's experience. And I was
just kind of overwhelmed by that. I said to my wife,
how does this happen that start off having a great
day your first day, and by the third day is

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better than the first and second days.

Speaker 1 (12:39):
You know, we actually we do plan it that way
because we finish on the Serengetti during the Great Migration.
So for you and Judy, what were some of the
Safari highlights your experiences?

Speaker 4 (12:52):
Probably one of the greatest for my wife was the
experience she had in the village visiting those natives Kenyans,
who so happy the lives that they had. Although they're
very different from what we have in the United States,
they were very happy their lives and smiling joyfully. As

(13:12):
well as the people we experienced all along the way,
the Kenyans are just very welcoming kind and they're just
the joy to be around. On the other side of that,
being with the animals that we saw, and we saw
so many of them. It was even hard to keep
track of.

Speaker 1 (13:33):
You know, by day three we've usually seen fifty or
more species, not including the birds. So did you have
a favorite animal or animals?

Speaker 4 (13:46):
Yeah, I think you know, it was hard to pin
down at first, but we had an experience where we
spent oh a good couple of hours among her elephants
that were just traveling with us kind of around Oura,
and the more we stayed there or elephants came in
pack and it was just remarkable, remarkable with them. We

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saw baby elephants who were just, according to our guy,
just a couple of weeks old, and they were following
their mothers around and trying to figure out what to
do with that trunk on the front of their face.
They had no idea what it was used for.

Speaker 1 (14:23):
Yet, what's this thing for?

Speaker 2 (14:27):
My favorite? With the lions, they always are very interesting.

Speaker 1 (14:32):
You know, a fully grown male lion can weigh over
five hundred pounds and a roar can be heard up
to five miles. And we saw lions every day, We
saw prides of lions every day. Well, how did this
safari experience affect you as a person. The reason I
asked that is the most frequent response I get the

(14:55):
people when I asked this question is it's an overused
for I admit, but it seems to be the most fitting.
Life changing It was a life changing experience. How did
this affect you as a person?

Speaker 4 (15:13):
Well, and for me, you're absolutely right, it was a
life changing experience.

Speaker 5 (15:17):
And what it taught me that we need to continue
to have conservation of these locales where these animals found.
You conserve the.

Speaker 4 (15:28):
Tribes that take care of them, the people that watch
over those various national parks in Kenya, and to make
sure that we take care of those animals so that
they're always here for us. We learn a lot from
those animals, and I always had the idea that, you know,
the hunting them more, having people go over there on

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hunting safaris was okay, And that changed my attitude and
my experience by saying we need to preserve them. There
may be some time when hunting is necessary, but certainly
can serve them for not only us in this day
and age, but for our children and grandchildren.

Speaker 1 (16:11):
Now, you told me an experience that you were out
to dinner with some friends who went to Kenya. I
think it was in November December of one year and
you contrasted your experience.

Speaker 2 (16:24):
Would you share that with our listeners.

Speaker 7 (16:27):
Yes.

Speaker 5 (16:27):
When we were out to dinner we spoke of our trip.
They were very excited.

Speaker 1 (16:34):
Oh are you on a speaker phone because I'm getting said,
I'm getting feedback.

Speaker 8 (16:42):
Let me get much much better.

Speaker 1 (16:46):
It's getting a lot of feedback there. Anyway, you went
out with some friends.

Speaker 8 (16:52):
Yeah, we went out with some friends and they had
been to Kenya last November, and we were talking about
the animals we'd seen in the experiences.

Speaker 1 (17:00):
That we had had, and they did not.

Speaker 8 (17:03):
They opted out of experience, you know, the experience.

Speaker 1 (17:07):
They would have for the Great Migration.

Speaker 8 (17:09):
They decided to go in an off season kind of thing,
and because it was much cheaper, and they thought, well,
we can use the difference in the savings for traveling elsewhere.
But when they learned of what we experienced, they realized
that the cost savings that they had was not worth
the money they spent because they did not get the

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same experience as we had, nor in the same way.
And I felt sort of bad for them. But you've
got to you've got to pay the money to get
the right experience. And I'm telling you people have asked
me every day, would you do it again? I would
go back tomorrow. Therry, Well, you know I could arrange that.
By the way, Hey, listen, Dwayne. We're speaking with Dwayne

(17:53):
Bair to just return from Afield. We got about thirty
seconds a quick comment on the quality of the lodges
of vehicles in the guides.

Speaker 1 (18:02):
Oh, I'm telling you everything was first class.

Speaker 8 (18:04):
And as you said earlier, everything got better from day
to day. But I don't know how it could have
improved from the first day to the last, but it did.
The guides were remarkable. They're very knowledgeable. It's almost as
though you're listening to college professors.

Speaker 7 (18:19):
As they speak in that experience.

Speaker 8 (18:22):
Well, thank you.

Speaker 1 (18:24):
I'll be giving some twenty twenty six Safari days when
we come back. Dwayne Bear, thank you so much for
joining us on the travel show. You know a traveler now,
that's much better.

Speaker 5 (18:36):
Much.

Speaker 1 (18:36):
You don't like Bill Coleman or I'm coming yeah, which
is Tonguan?

Speaker 3 (18:43):
Oh really, I know, I don't know those strange languages.

Speaker 1 (18:48):
Bulivinaka which is Fijian and hey, what's up you? Hey,
I'm Larry Gelwiz, the Getaway Guru. Great to have you
with us here on the Travel show today if you
have a well, if you'd like to join us on
the air, Triple eight five seven oh eight oh one. Oh,

(19:09):
that's Triple eight five seven oh eight oh one. Oh.
But I'm gonna make this invitation if you have a
question or comment about South America.

Speaker 2 (19:21):
You really have the most.

Speaker 1 (19:23):
The smartest guy I've ever met on all things South America.
I'm not bad in South America, but Carlos has forgotten
more than I know I think about South America. So
this would be a great opportunity to call into the
show Triple eight five seven oh eight oh one to
oh with a question comment about South America. Now, Carlos,

(19:47):
you and I have talked many times about how much
we love South America. But there, I think with many Americans,
there's almost a mental block, not a bad one, but
it's like, well, I've been to Mexico.

Speaker 3 (20:07):
In Argentina, you know, yeah or peruh.

Speaker 1 (20:12):
Uh, and it's all the same down there. It's all
the same. And about the only thing similar between Mexico
and most of South America is the language.

Speaker 2 (20:24):
The language.

Speaker 1 (20:25):
Of course, you have what English spoken in the Guianas
and Portuguese spoken in Brazil.

Speaker 3 (20:32):
And also Dutch Dutch Guianas.

Speaker 1 (20:37):
Yes with that, Hey, before we talk about South America.
Steve has calling from Salt Lake City. Steve, Welcome to
the Travel Show.

Speaker 2 (20:46):
How can we help you?

Speaker 9 (20:49):
Fine? Hey, I just wanted to follow up on your trip.
You know I was also on that trip.

Speaker 1 (20:55):
I recognize your voice, Steve, I know exactly who you are.

Speaker 2 (21:01):
Anyway to my great migration trip.

Speaker 9 (21:06):
Yes, but a little background real quick. My daughter went
on a mission to South Africa, so we went to
a number of parks there when we picked her up.
We went to Krueger in South Africa. We went to
Choby in the northern part of Botswana, and we went

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to Victoria Falls. When I first heard about this tour,
I thought, well, I've already been there and done that,
and the person I was talking to said, no, this
one is completely different. So I'm very grateful. I went
on to both. But the thing that I was most
impressed with was how kind the people were. I felt
completely safe the whole time, and in answering your question

(21:51):
that you had for the previous guests, even though I
did not see lions in Choby, excuse me in Krueger,
the thing that I was the most impressed was the
crossing of the Wilderbeest. You just cannot understand unless you've been,
you know, thirty forty yards away from that crossing, what

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that experience is.

Speaker 1 (22:14):
And that's crossing the river, you know, Steve, I remember
making the comment to you in the group that I
read journal accounts, historical accounts of the Western migration here
in the United States, and those early pioneers talking about
a valley or a hillside being literally black with buffalo.

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You know, academically, I, okay, there's a lot of buffalo,
but I it didn't sink in until my very first
trip years ago to Kenya during the Great Migration, where
as we saw what a week or so ago, an
entire valley, a hillside being black with wilderbys.

Speaker 2 (22:56):
It was a great experience.

Speaker 3 (22:58):
Steve.

Speaker 1 (22:58):
Thank you so much for calling in, and thank you
for listening to the travel show. It was a pleasure
spending time with you and your wife.

Speaker 7 (23:08):
Steve.

Speaker 2 (23:08):
Thanks so much.

Speaker 9 (23:09):
Hey, thank you again.

Speaker 2 (23:11):
By Well how about.

Speaker 1 (23:13):
That, I tell you, Carlos, there is nothing that even
comes close to the Great Migration, which only takes place
in the months of July, August and September and only
in the countries of Kenya and Tanzania. And for a
long list of reasons. To me, Kenya is a far

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better choice everything. I mean, there's interesting things to see,
but I suggest Kenya for that. We do have some
great migration dates next summer.

Speaker 2 (23:46):
I know that.

Speaker 1 (23:49):
I have a group going in July, and there's another
group that will leave the US August eighteenth, returns to
the US the twenty ninth. That's twelve calendar days including travel.

Speaker 6 (24:04):
Larry, I think that this is what I have heard
from people. You know, they have traveled with me and
have gone with you to Africa. They always said there
is a big difference. We have been in two different
companies traveled into Africa, and we hardly saw anything that
we really like, the lions that we wanted to see.

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So I think that the eighteen that you put together
makes the difference for the experience.

Speaker 1 (24:29):
It's as good as it gets, and there's so many
the quality of the lodges. We don't put more than
four persons in a vehicle unless there's a family. The vehicles,
these Toyota land cruisers will see eight people, and most
everyone fills it up because it's more makes more money

(24:50):
for the tour operator.

Speaker 3 (24:51):
Obviously, unless the.

Speaker 1 (24:52):
Family says, well, there's five or six of us who
want to go together, we only put four in a
vehicle so that you can move right to the left,
front to back. The animals have never learned to only
come to your side of the viet We see people
crammed in. Well, let's go back to South America. I
think people that, well, I've been to Mexico. It is

(25:13):
so different, the countries, the culture, the food, the people.

Speaker 6 (25:18):
I think that their food is a big difference because
people have gone. I remember somebody said, I am so
happy that they call me to go to South America,
to Argentina on a mission. I love tacos, and I said, well,
taco is the heel of a shoe.

Speaker 3 (25:35):
I don't know anything else about that.

Speaker 6 (25:38):
Of course, it's a food, it's a Mexican food, but
it's not everywhere else. It's not in Brazil, it's not
in Peru, it's not in Colombia.

Speaker 3 (25:45):
So that makes a difference.

Speaker 6 (25:47):
Now, the landscape and the beauty of the countries vary
from one to another. For example, we share the borders
Argentina and Chile, and there is a big difference between
the Chilean side, which is on the western side after
the Andes, and then on the ur side there is
a landscape pretty bare. There isn't very much but silence,

(26:12):
the wind. The beautiful ranches that today have been open
to stay are unique nothing else anywhere else.

Speaker 1 (26:20):
We got a few minutes in this segment. Let's talk
about some highlights. I think everybody thinks of Machupchu briefly
on that, but there's so much bored prdue.

Speaker 6 (26:32):
Well, Machupiccho is the number one attraction practically in South America.
You can mention as a second Oani was who falls
all the islands of.

Speaker 3 (26:42):
Calab I was. But there is a big difference. Honestly,
there is a big difference in what you see in
Machu Picchu. Machu Picchu is not just seeing Machu Picchu.
Now you have to.

Speaker 6 (26:52):
Allow yourself two days if you want to see it.
If you want to climb the Wina Pitcher, that famous
mountain that serves as a bat.

Speaker 2 (27:00):
It looks like a gum drop.

Speaker 1 (27:02):
Now I have climbed that before they had a handrail
in steps. I was on all fours climbing up the
side of one eye and the way you remember the
name want to peach you is I want to pinch you.
I say that only to Kathy.

Speaker 3 (27:16):
That's good.

Speaker 6 (27:17):
I think that's proper mostly, But there are so many
other things, you know, in Cusco. Cusco has now so
many places to hike, to walk, nothing like that before.

Speaker 2 (27:30):
I love Cusco.

Speaker 1 (27:32):
You you know, you and I they had that central plaza.
There's two memorable meals. One is we had one of
the best pizzas I ever remember we were sitting in
that restaurant. And the other is kind of a favorite
dish is called a koui or a rat on a place,
I'd call it a rat. It's not a rat, but

(27:53):
I had to try it. It's a guinea pig. They
love it down there, and I tried it. It was
a little too game for me.

Speaker 6 (28:00):
Well, let's in all celebrations the guinea pig is the
number one dish, like we have turkey for Thanksgiving or
that kind of a fit for the hour.

Speaker 1 (28:12):
Let's turn our attention to Iguosou falls both in the
Argentinian and Brazilian side.

Speaker 6 (28:18):
Yes, you know, I am sad to say that Argentina
doesn't have the best.

Speaker 2 (28:23):
That's Brazil.

Speaker 6 (28:24):
It's Brazil, so you have to cross over, which is nothing,
you know. You have to fly on the Argentine side
and then cross over to Brazil. The hotel there is
one of the most amazing places. It's a Belmont hotel.
And the food and the entertainment, everything is unique.

Speaker 5 (28:42):
Now.

Speaker 6 (28:42):
The other nice thing is this. You are there, you
cross the street and you have the full view of
the falls that are on the Argentine side.

Speaker 5 (28:53):
You know.

Speaker 6 (28:53):
The Devil's Throat is a famous jump of water. There's
zillions of a want it coming down, you know in
that place, and then roaring too the river and what
happens in the river?

Speaker 3 (29:07):
What do we have there?

Speaker 5 (29:08):
Now?

Speaker 2 (29:08):
We have a little jungle safari first.

Speaker 1 (29:12):
Then get in boats and you can have like a
poncho and you go up and get close in personal.
Nothing dangerous, but it's very wet.

Speaker 5 (29:21):
You know.

Speaker 2 (29:21):
To put Iguasou in perspective.

Speaker 1 (29:23):
There are two hundred and seventy five waterfalls and Iguasu
and Eleanor Roosevelt, on her visit to Igua Siou, looked
at it, kind of put her hand over her mouth
and was reported to have said, oh my, poor Niagara.

Speaker 3 (29:42):
That's correct. Now there is another thing.

Speaker 6 (29:44):
Why would you spend one dollar to go on this
Makuko safari?

Speaker 3 (29:49):
That's what it's called when you're gonna get wet anyway.

Speaker 1 (29:53):
Well, the safaris, fine, you're going through the jungle and
you know on the opposite side of the falls is
a walk where you can walk. Well, listen, we've got
about a minute left. And well, Carlos, and tell me
if I get this right. Well, Carlos has officially retired.

(30:14):
How I don't know, five or six times from full
time in the office. You still assist the travel advisors
in the Bountiful office and any other advisor that asks you. Men,
But if you want some personal help on Latin America,
maybe you're going to pick up a missionary or something,

(30:36):
or just go yourself as a family, as a couple,
as a single and you would like, in my view,
world's greatest expert, talk to any of our Morris Columbus
travel advisors in the Bountiful office or elsewhere, and Carlos
will be involved in your trip. Well, Carlos, you go,

(31:00):
thank you. Hey, when we come back, I'm gonna tell
you why you should never throw away your airline boarding
pass when travel show. Yes, Carlos, it's still morning.

Speaker 3 (31:26):
And I'm looking at this.

Speaker 2 (31:27):
Should go to Whens.

Speaker 1 (31:28):
Done this and then what I like to say is
buena buenos nachos. I'm Larry Gelwicks, the Getaway Guru. I'm
having so much fun. I look forward to this show
every weekend. I'm joined by my good amigo, Carlos Feeda,
the South American Expert. And if you have a question

(31:52):
for Carlos about anything in Latin America, give us a
call right now. Triple eight five seven eight oh one. Oh,
that's triple eight five seven eighth one oh. Or maybe
why you love South America. I think it's a place
that for most people, Carlos is not number one. I

(32:12):
think for most Americans it's Europe, Peter, and I get that,
and I don't disagree with it. But don't overlook Latin America.
Don't overlook South America in particular.

Speaker 6 (32:24):
People that have gone there said I want to come back.
I have some of the clients that went twice to
the same place, twice, to Peru, twice, to Galapagos Islands.

Speaker 1 (32:36):
Well, if you don't take a cruise ship, most people
fly to South America, and of course you can get
your Delta miles with a code share with Latam Airways,
which is the number one best airline in all South America.
It's a Delta partner on sky MOUs. Now when we
when we board a flight, we have a boarding pass

(33:01):
and most people just throw it in the garbage. Don't
ever do that because.

Speaker 3 (33:06):
All the information is in the codebar.

Speaker 6 (33:10):
If you're personal information personal information, so I mean you
could be hacked.

Speaker 1 (33:14):
You could frequent fire number, form a payment name. So
on that boarding pass your personal information is stored. Other
reasons not to throw it away. First of all, it's
a record of your trip. I use them as bookmarks.
I got a lot of bookmarks my travels by I do. Also,

(33:37):
if you have a frequent flyer miles discrepancy, the boarding
pass really is See you can have a reservation and
not show up, you don't get your miles even though
you paid for the ticket. That boarding pass is proof
that you checked in for it and also very important
in the case of travel disruptions that canceled fly a

(34:00):
delayed flight, that boarding pass is your ticket to getting
taken care of. Now, speaking of airline tickets, a quick
update on the Salt Lake City International Airport, which has
been rated as one of the best in the United States. Interestingly,
that passenger traffic is up over five percent. That's a

(34:22):
huge jump from twenty twenty three to twenty twenty four,
and in twenty twenty four, twenty eight point four million
people as in passengers flew through, or from or to
Salt Lake City. We do have a new airline that
came to us in May of this year, west Jet,
which flies Salt Lake to Edmonton. It's the only it

(34:45):
flies NonStop up to Edmonton, Alberta. We've also got some
new routes Delta.

Speaker 2 (34:53):
Is now flying.

Speaker 1 (34:54):
These are NonStop routes to Fayetteville, Arkansas.

Speaker 2 (34:59):
The big one for me is Seoul.

Speaker 1 (35:01):
It's the Inchon Airport NonStop and then connecting from Seoul
all over Asia and the world with a Delta code
share with Korean Airlines.

Speaker 2 (35:14):
Let's see.

Speaker 1 (35:14):
We also have seasonal service on Delta now to Fairbanks
Little Rock, COONa, Hawaii on the Big Island starting December nineteenth,
NonStop service Salt Lake ConA, Hawaii, but it is seasonal,
doesn't go year round, and also to Fort Myers, Ara, Mexico.

(35:35):
Back to your hometown in Monterey Mexico. United started up
Washington Dulles NonStop service now people.

Speaker 2 (35:46):
By the way, by.

Speaker 1 (35:47):
The end of this year, Salt Lake International Airport will
offer one hundred and seven non stop destinations. You can
make connections to hundreds of places of America. We don't
have a NonStop yet, but I know that Delta is
thinking about Buenos Aires Lima Lima will I think will

(36:13):
probably come first.

Speaker 6 (36:14):
Lima Yeah, I think a Lima is for the first
week of December, but it ends about the second week
of January.

Speaker 2 (36:23):
They're going to run that one.

Speaker 1 (36:25):
Well, we have phases one and two at the airport open.
Phase three excuse me. Phase three did open October of
twenty twenty four. That's the Concourse B Plaza the River tunnel,
so you don't have to walk halfway to China to
get to the B Concourse. Now Phase four, part one

(36:47):
is scared open. This is this fall, probably October, which
will include at least in the planning, a second Delta
sky Club on Concourse B, an Amex Centurion Lounge, and
several more concessions and ten new gates. By the way,

(37:07):
United Airlines has says they're going to build a lounge.
They haven't given a date now. That's Phase four Part one.
Phase four Part two is scheduled to open the fall
of twenty twenty six, eleven new gates and more concessions.
I love the new Salt Lake City Airport. It's We've

(37:29):
had people from the airport here on the show to
give us the update. Well, a lot is happening now
when we come back. I want to talk to you
in our number two about Alaska, two different cruise itineries,
and why we love Thochty All here in our number
two of the Travel Show. Our number two of the

(37:59):
Travel Show, Larry Gelwicks, they get Away Guru joined today
in studio by our old friend emphasis on friend rather
than old Carlos feeding Q, who is the co host
of this show for lo these many years and now
has come back as a special guest. And I hope
you'll come back again and again. We love having you

(38:20):
on this Thank you. We were mentioned in the first
hour that I'd be talking about Alaska. There are places
that I call one and done. I'm glad I went.
No need to go back me Cleveland. I don't need
to Detroit. I don't need to go back. But there

(38:42):
are other places I could go back again, again, again
and again. I get giddy this thinking about it, and yeah,
it's I can't wait to do even the same things.
Alaska to me is one of those places. And I
know you and Karen and what Jason, your son and

(39:03):
family will be visiting Alaska. But later this month, twenty
eight of August, I will be in Alaska with a
travel show listeners group later this month, and I just
can't wait to get back. Now, there's when choosing an
Alaska cruise. There are two different itineraries. One week itineraries.

(39:27):
Now you'll see some ten day and twelve day every
now and then one will come out of San Francisco
and you'll have the cruise up. But let's talk about
what most people do a one week cruise. The first
is what I call round trip Seattle. That's fairly self descriptive.
You depart from Seattle, you return to Seattle, you'll see

(39:48):
the inside passage, you'll have a day of glacier viewing.

Speaker 2 (39:54):
And then you'll make some stops.

Speaker 1 (39:56):
Some combination of Victoria, Skagway, Ketchikan, Juno, Sitka, Icy streetch
You're not gonna visit them all, but some combination.

Speaker 2 (40:07):
It's a wonderful cruise.

Speaker 1 (40:09):
The second itiner is what I call the North South.
You leave from Vancouver and you go to Anchorage or
vice versa. The next week Anchorage to Vancouver. What's the
difference about a day and a half. On the North South,
you'll see the same things, the inside Passage, Juno, Ketchikan, Skagway,

(40:31):
Icy Straits, Sitka, some combination, not all of them, but
usually on the North South you have two days of
glacier viewing. Now, the group that I'm taking later this
month with me to Alaska, we're doing the North South.
We'll leave from Vancouver and we'll have two days of

(40:53):
glacier viewing, including College Feord. That's the second glacier viewing day.
Now it's called College Fjord because the glaciers that you
can see from the ship in this narrow fjord are
named after colleges, as the Harvard Glacier, the Yale Glacier.

(41:15):
I'm sure soon will have a Utah State, Weber State,
Utah or BYU or Utah Technical College the Glacier, Yes, writer,
Southern Utah University.

Speaker 2 (41:31):
I'm sure those are coming.

Speaker 3 (41:32):
Tell me about the train well that's at.

Speaker 1 (41:35):
A Skagway so I'll just finish this north south now
on my group, we're extending into Dnali for three or
four days after the cruise. We will see so much there.
Now my favorite activities, and my favorite may not be yours.

Speaker 2 (41:54):
There's no right or wrong. In Juno.

Speaker 1 (41:56):
It's whale watching, Mendenhall Glacier, and if when you go
to Benden Hall, there's a visitors center there, and what
you want to do is walk down to Nugget Falls.
It's about a twenty twenty five minute walk. It's right
next to the glacier and you can, I mean you
can get close enough to get a little spray. It

(42:17):
is a monstrous waterfall. It's so exciting. They also have
an elevated walkway near the visitors center with salmon and
fish streams below it, so you have a chance to
see the bears.

Speaker 2 (42:31):
Well it's the.

Speaker 1 (42:32):
Chuck a rama for the bears is what it really is,
you know, So that is fun.

Speaker 2 (42:38):
I also love you got to go.

Speaker 1 (42:39):
To the Red Dog Saloon in Juno. Don't be put
off by salon. It's a family restaurant. Sure, they serve alcohol,
like just about every restaurant in America serves alcohol, but
it's sawdust on the floors.

Speaker 2 (42:53):
It's a throwback to the gold miner era.

Speaker 1 (42:56):
Now in Skagway it's the Yukon White Pass Railway and
it follows from Skagway. You can board it right next
to the ship if you're sailing on Princess, because they
dock right next to the ship or to the train,
and you can follow it up. You ride it up

(43:17):
through the canyon that the gold miners did, and you
actually go into Canada, the Yukon territory, so you can
check that on your box.

Speaker 2 (43:26):
Yeah, I've been to the Yukon.

Speaker 1 (43:27):
Now you can get tickets from your cruise ship or
in town. Buy it from the cruise ship because you
board at the cruise ship. If you buy the ticket
in town, the train rolls up and then you get
seats that are left over. Now, going up the mountain,

(43:47):
you want to be on the left side facing forward.
You have the best there's views on both sides. But
what they do at the top of the mountain on
the White Pass Yukon Railway is the seats flip, and
you know, in other words, it's just they move backwards
and so it would be on the right side going

(44:09):
down and they ask you to switch, so if you're
on the right side going up, you go to the
left side.

Speaker 2 (44:16):
Coming down.

Speaker 1 (44:17):
Now, what's nice if you have a family, you could
hog a couple of areas and just move people within
your family. Now in Ketchikan, I like the Totem parks.
You got two totem parks, the Sacman Village and Potlatch,
and both are fabulous. They're outside of town in different directions.
You have Herring Cove, which is great for animal viewing

(44:39):
during the salmon run. You can barely stand it because
that's where the bears come to feed. As with all wildlife,
there's no guarantee their wildlife there. I also like Creek Street,
which was the bordello red light district in the gold
miner days where they spent their gold. But now it
is and it's these boutiques. It's shopping, but it's these

(45:02):
quaint little buildings built right on the creek and it's
heavily wooded. It's so much fun. Another fun one in
catchi can is the Lumberjack show. Now one side of
the Americans the other are the Canadians, and they have
a competition of log skill sets. You know, the lumberjack

(45:28):
skill sets. I think that Johnny one day is on
the US side, the next day is on the Canadian side.
One day the Americans win, the next day the Canadians went,
we keep everybody happy. I'd love to have you join
me on my annual Alaska pilgrimage next year, twenty twenty six,

(45:50):
the peak of the peak of the peak season July
twelfth to the nineteenth. This will be round trip Seattle
with Princess cruises. We'll see the grand daddy Glacier of
them all, Glacier Bay, Juno, Ketchikan, sing Skagway, and then
to Victoria, British Columbia. Now rates start at just over

(46:13):
thirteen hundred dollars, and most of the rates were starting
about nine nine to fifty for peak season. You get
lower rates in May or September, but the middle of
July is absolutely the best for weather. The rain season
starts to pick up later on in August and September. Anyway,
there they said, Larry, why are they three or four

(46:35):
hundred dollars more than they were last year. Well, they
now include all the taxes in fees. Last year it
was like nine to fifty plus four hundred dollars in
tax Now it's one price for all the taxes and fees,
and it's thirteen hundred something. Give Morris Columbus a call,

(46:55):
say I want to join Larry. We have our own
private short scoursion where we do more. No you know,
there's no offense to the cruise line shore excursions, but
frankly they are. They plan them for the nearly dead.
No offense, no offense intended. We put in more at
a better price. We'll have private onboard activities and seminars.

(47:18):
Love to have you join me July twelve to nineteen,
next year twenty twenty six, and yeah, that's going to
be a lot of fun, going to be a lot
of fun. You know, what we didn't get to is
why we love Costa Rica, and we'll try to pick
that up.

Speaker 2 (47:37):
Really.

Speaker 1 (47:37):
Yeah, you can divide Costa Rica into three parts. Up
north is Guanacoste. It's nice but reminds me a lot
of South southern California, the rolling hills, and you're usually
a beautiful lodge. They've got a four seasons up there,
but if you want the activities, you're always an hour,

(47:59):
hour and a half a week. I love Guanacassa in
the mid you have Arnul volcano and the tabacaon Hot Springs.

Speaker 2 (48:07):
I love the South.

Speaker 1 (48:08):
It's beach and jungles and my favorite part one third
of the entire country a national parks. My favorite is
one of the smallest, Manuel Antonio near Kipos. I'll tell
you more about that here on the travel show.

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Your listen, Famers of the travel Jean Larry yelwaitsday your away,
cool route. So glad to have you here, and we're
so grateful. You know, we have so much fun on
the Travels Show, but I never take.

Speaker 2 (51:01):
It for granted that you are the reason that we're here.

Speaker 1 (51:05):
I want to welcome to this show a very special
guest that I have known a very long time, my
daughter Jennifer better known as Jenny Gelwick's Christensen. Jenny, Welcome
to the Travel Show.

Speaker 12 (51:20):
Well, well, well you can't get rid of.

Speaker 2 (51:22):
Me as hard as I've tried.

Speaker 1 (51:25):
We used to tell her when she was growing up
that we found her in Wanton, China working in a
rice patty and adopted her. Come on, Larry, that is
actually very true. That is you know in the Gelwick's family.
We never miss an opportunity for cheap and shameless humor,
and it appalls your mother.

Speaker 3 (51:47):
I'm sorry for you, Jenny, I do it too.

Speaker 1 (51:52):
So here here's what goes on in the Gelwicks family.
As you know, I'm traveling internationally almost every month, and
of course my lovely wife, who I love dearly, Kathy
has is always invited on everything I go. She's invited,
but she's got a lot of other things going on,
other things that she's involved with and can't always go.

Speaker 2 (52:14):
So she was planning.

Speaker 1 (52:16):
We planned the British Isles cruise where we spent three
days in London at a beautiful hotel in the Kensington
High area, and then about a twelve or thirteen day
cruise of England, Scotland, Ireland, Northern Ireland and France.

Speaker 2 (52:33):
And she was going.

Speaker 1 (52:35):
And then we got an announcement what Jenny, about six
months ago that son Keaton and his wife would be
welcoming a new baby, baby girl in July during the cruise.
So what happens is the kids are like vultures, they
really are, and I that's exactly what you do. So

(52:57):
if Kathy doesn't go, invite one of our children. We
have five children, they're all married, all doing well with
or without their spouse, because you know who's going to
watch the kids? Can the spouse get off work? So
I invited Jenny.

Speaker 12 (53:15):
Who's and I touched my kids on my husband.

Speaker 1 (53:17):
Thank you very much, and came with me to London
and this British Isles becruise. It's kind of funny in
our house and they'll say, oh, Mom, I see Dad's
going to Tahiti in January. You know you would hate that.
You don't want to go. I will go in your place.
And Kathy thinks that's funny. But what she doesn't think

(53:39):
is funny is what evolved in Mom, can I help
you down the stairs? I think that your wife.

Speaker 3 (53:47):
I think your wife wants you away sometimes.

Speaker 2 (53:49):
Oh I guarantee it, so keep it married.

Speaker 1 (53:52):
I asked Jenny to come on win. I asked jan
to come on and just give a brief review of
the British Aisles tour and cruise. We can't cover it all,
but what were some of the highlights for you, other
than of course spending time with your father, well naturally,
what are some of the highlights that you visited?

Speaker 12 (54:13):
The obvious highlight that everyone has is London, and I
could go to London a million times just for the
history and everything like that, like going to the Tower
of London seeing the Crown Jewels. I've done that a
number of times and it never gets old. One thing
that was new for me was because you mentioned we
stayed in the Kensington area, we did walk over to
Kensington Palace and I had never been in there before,

(54:35):
so that was a highlight for me. Another one, yes,
so one thing that I love and people that know
me is my house is decorated with memories from traveling
with you. And so one thing that's really cool about
the British Isles is that they have a lot of
flea markets and we went to one in Covent Garden

(54:56):
and I had never I had seen it, but I
didn't really know about this Wedgewood Jasperware and I saw
that and I thought it was so cool, and so
we were able to get some jasperware, which is that
blue china that if you look it up you.

Speaker 7 (55:10):
Will know what it is.

Speaker 2 (55:11):
It almost looks like the Dutch delf you.

Speaker 12 (55:14):
Know, very and then and reasonable prices and just has
some really cool unique things. Their their flea markets. Their
antique stores in the British Isles are very reasonably priced
and like here, and it just has a lot of
cool things that you can take back and are good
memories of your travels that are really unique and you
don't find in kind of the tourist sea shops, which

(55:36):
is cool. Another highlight for me was the Belfast Titanic Museum.
That's where they built the Titanic, and it was just
really cool to see the history of Belfast, the history
of them making the Titanic. But what stuck out to me.
I really like artifacts, and at this museum they had
one of the twelve remaining life jackets that were worn

(55:57):
by survivors. There's only twelve in the world. They had
one of the six remaining deck chairs and it was
the one that they have was pulled from the water
by a ship that was searching for bodies. And then
probably the most meaningful one to me and you if
you've seen the movie, you see they it's the song
they played, is not It's not what they said was

(56:19):
actually they're not sure what they played as the ship
was going down, but the musician Wallace Hartley his violin
that he was playing on the deck as it was
thinking was found in a case and a leather case
strapped to his body, floating after it went down. And
so they had the actual violin at that museum and
that was really moving to see.

Speaker 1 (56:40):
Jenny, we have about two minutes left. One of the
highlights for everyone was our stop in the Haveve, France
and visiting the D Day Beaches Omaha Beach in Normandy.
Would you talk about how that affected you?

Speaker 12 (56:59):
Yeah, I'd always wanted to go there, but walking, first
of all, the museum that you go to that has
so many artifacts, it's overwhelming. You just don't have enough
time to look at everything that they found there. But
when you go out to the beach, it's just you.
There's like this peaceful but you know, it's a very
moving place because it's very peaceful. But just to imagine

(57:20):
what went on there, I feel like it really kind
of changes you and changes your perspective of what you've
seen in saving private Ryan and war documentaries. Just to
be there and imagine just the absolute horror that went
on there is just life changing and really moving.

Speaker 2 (57:39):
How about the cemetery.

Speaker 12 (57:42):
Oh and then we got to see or we got
there at I think it was four o'clock, so we
got to witness taps and that was that was really
stirring just to watch the people there, the employees there
just so reverently wait for the taps to end and
pull and bring down the flag and just sit there
in silence among quite a few people that were there

(58:03):
for the same thing and just look out at the
Sea of Graves.

Speaker 1 (58:08):
Was just it's a very movie words. You know, There's
so many things where but Loch Loman looking for NeSSI,
the Monster Stonehenge, Edinburgh. But for me, the highlight was
the beaches of Normandy, Omaha Beach, the bloodiest battle of that.
Thank you Jenny for joining us on the Travel Show.

(58:42):
Welcome back to the Travel Show. I'm Larry Gelwicks to
get Away Guru, and thank you for joining us. I
really enjoyed having Jenny talked about that British Isles cruise.
We don't have another one planned, but Carlos, I think
I'm gonna look at some dates for a future. It
was so much fun. And I'll just comment on Normandy

(59:03):
and D Day. It is a very moving emotional experience,
you know. D Day was June sixth, nineteen forty four.
Five landing beaches were targeted during the Normandy landings. Omaha Beach,
which we visited, was the most heavily defended by the
Germans of all five beaches and resulted in the highest

(59:27):
number of casualties for US forces.

Speaker 2 (59:30):
I believe it was thirty.

Speaker 1 (59:31):
Four thousand Allied troops landed that day. And one of
the things I enjoy doing is I go to YouTube
and for more contemporary events, you can see actual video
or film. You can go on and I look at
D Day Omaha landing and I watch they have recovered

(59:56):
some of the German film. They certainly have the US film,
the Allied film, and you can relive actual film and
the horror of that day. And with more ancient things,
you can find good videos that give explanations or a
recreation of historical events. But I have a particular interest

(01:00:20):
in the Battle of Midway. I don't know why, but
I just do. And I find videos on YouTube and
other platforms of actual engagements in the Battle of Midway,
which was the turning point of the war in the Pacific.
The Japanese came with four carriers, the US snuck on

(01:00:44):
with two and three Japanese carriers were destroyed. One was
badly hit and it changed the whole everything in the war.
So yeah, we got to get back there with another
British Isles. I want to quickly mention two cruise programs
that I will personally be hosting, and we mentioned these

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often because they are the hottest sellers that we have
at Morris Columbus Travel. Do check out the website Morriscolumbus
dot Commorriscolumbus dot com. And don't forget the Fall Travel
Expo October eighteenth at the Davis Conference Center in Leyton.
Now we're coming back to Davis County. Check out all
that details. It's a one day expo Utah Travel Expo

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dot com. That's Utah Travel Expo dot com October eighteenth.

Speaker 2 (01:01:35):
Just very quickly, Australia, New Zealand.

Speaker 1 (01:01:39):
We have an option for three days in Sydney and
then we sail Australia the North and South Islands of
New Zealand. The actual cruise dates are February fifteen to
March one of next year, and the other one is
Tahiti to Honolulu. We'll do French Polynesia, the Society Islands,

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tay Right Yeatea, Bora, Bora morea cruz the Tuamotu, a
capelago crossed the Equator and then sail the Hawaiian Islands.
And that does have a free airfare offer. It's a
buy one, get one free. Those cruise dates are May
fifteenth to the twenty seventh. Now I refer to you

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as one of my old friends, and I don't mean age.
I mean we've been friends for forty years. I want
to bring back to the show one of our guests,
Dan Hone who he and I Dan. I think you
and I must date back at least fifty years. Dan,
welcome back to the Travel show. Thank you, Errie.

Speaker 7 (01:02:41):
It's great to be with you.

Speaker 1 (01:02:43):
You know, Dan and I sat next to each other
in college classes a million years ago, and that had
to be fifty two fifty three years ago. Dan is
to the Middle East and the Holy Land, what Carlos
is to South America, what John Potter is to all

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things Disney.

Speaker 2 (01:03:08):
Like Dan is.

Speaker 1 (01:03:09):
He gets embarrassed because I embarrass him. The smartest man
I have ever known on all things.

Speaker 2 (01:03:18):
In the Middle East.

Speaker 1 (01:03:19):
Published author Insights to the Scriptures, the first volume remind
me the title of that I have it at home
and have thoroughly enjoyed. I want to get the title right.

Speaker 7 (01:03:32):
The foundations of script. Understanding it is, you know what
it is.

Speaker 1 (01:03:37):
The footnotes are like Hugh Nibley, but the text is
Dan hone, you and I can understand it. So Dan,
first of all, I know that you have so many
contexts in the Arab world, Israel, with Palestinians, with government officials.
Give us an update on what is going on in

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the Middle East, with particular reference to tourism.

Speaker 7 (01:04:06):
Well, it's kind of an exciting time, you know. This
is actually a great time to get over there, even
though people get so much in the media, those who
have made the visit, and I was just there in
March myself for twenty five days in Egypt, I mean
in Israel and in Jordan, and it's actually very safe.

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It's wonderful to go to spots where you don't have
to wait in line. Now it's opening up this fall
and there's going to be a lot more tourism in
the fall, and the airlines are returning, and the country's
actually taken the time in two directions to make it
better for those who are going to visit. One, of course,
is in the antiquities in the sites archaeology. Some fantastic

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archaeological discoveries have been made in the last two years.
In addition to that, they have improved the site's locations,
but also some of the places to stay have been refurbished.
There's another concern. A lot of people get a lot
about Gaza, what's going on there with the Israel are
now moving in. It's more political than it is actual

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in some parts of it. But just to give a
perspective on that, Gazza is twenty five miles long, Utah
Lake is twenty four miles long. Utah Lake averages around
thirteen miles wide. The land of Gaza averages about seven

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miles wide. So you're seeing we're talking about an area
that's both isolated geographically from the rest of the country,
but also isn't as large as as it appears if
you don't know the geography of the land and so
realize that we never in any area of any of

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that never have been things are going on normally in
the streets of Jerusalem, Tel Aviv, the Galilee and all
and tourism is picking up.

Speaker 1 (01:06:10):
You know, looking at those yeah, looking at those distances.
Dan the driving route in miles from say, Jerusalem to
Gaza is four hundred and seventy two miles.

Speaker 2 (01:06:28):
It's not like it's next door, you.

Speaker 1 (01:06:31):
Know, and nobody ever goes to Gaza. So, as you said,
it's a great time to be there. You were there
with the group in March. We're hoping that our tours
will be going this fall and winter. What would you
say to someone who says, well, I just keep seeing
this on the news and I'm nervous about going.

Speaker 7 (01:06:56):
Well, you know, we have an over abundant of media
personnel and his troupe that has to maintain their job.
I remember one time when I was walking through Damassive
skate and there was a little bit of a tuessl
going on between these two Bedouin women Bedwin are not
necessarily Palestinian and better Arab, and some of the soldiers

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trying to remove them because they didn't have a license
for being there and they had taken the spot of
someone who did. And their children were throwing some fruits
and vegetables and stuff and it was nothing very dangerous,
and they walked through. I walked through there, and when
I got to the BBC that evening in the background
was showing, you know, a fire burning so forth of

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the intifat of the uprising that they had years before,
and talked about riots at damask Eskate. The riots was
the two Bedouin.

Speaker 1 (01:07:55):
Women and the nine children.

Speaker 7 (01:07:57):
That I walked through and hardly signed me.

Speaker 1 (01:08:00):
Well, let's turn our attention westward from Israel, and I'll
tell you it is a life changing event. I've often
said there's a difference between intellectually knowing something and emotionally
feeling it. You know, you go to well, say Gettysburg,
they're at Pickett's charge, and you can read it. But

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once you stand there on the hill on behind the
wall there where the Confederates charged up, you can never
read that account. The same for those of the Catholic faith,
you go to the Vatican, it changes their heart, you know.
For Jews go and Christians too, going to the western Wall,

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the outer gate of the Second Temple of Jerusalem. For
lds who read the account of the First Vision, you
cannot read that account after having walked into the Sacred
Grove and ever be the same. And that's how Israel
grabs us. Now, I want to go west, which is
part of our biblical studies, to Egypt. What is it

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about Egypt that is so captivating?

Speaker 7 (01:09:09):
You know, we call it egypt Mania since the Napoleon
was there in seventeen ninety nine, when the world finally
opened up to see what there was in Egypt, everything
had been legendary or Shakespearean and since that time there's
been a great fascination. You know, here you've got located
some of the wonders of the world. The Temple of Karnak,

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which we visit, the Pyramids of Giza, the Lighthouse of Alexandria,
which is one of the things on a tour we're
planning next spring. We go to all of these locations
and places clear down to Oswuan and the high down there,
the temples, the ceremonies. The excitement of discovering new is

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always there. You always feel this. It opens up a
whole different world of Actually our heritage, our Western heritage,
comes from this North African country of Egypt, and so
it's an exciting place to be and so many discoveries now,
new things, new tombs, new artifacts. And one of the

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things we will be going to now tours are able
to do is we're going to the Gym, which is
the great Egyptian Museum, which houses one hundred and thirty
thousand items that haven't been seen before and all but
the one major exhibit of the King tut exhibit there,

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but of all the parts and gold masks and other
things and coffins and things from that, that's exciting. But
even going to the Old Egyptian Museum, you still have
part of that along with the Tennis exhibit, along with
an armor palette, which are things that go clear back
five thousand years in the history of this area of

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the world, foundations of civilization as you call it. There,
you're right and think scripturally, scripturally of everything from Jesus
Christ as a child's there, but you go back to
Moses and Joseph who is sold into Egypt, the House
of Israel there for four hundred years. You just keep
going through, all.

Speaker 1 (01:11:22):
Right, Dan, I got to bring this. I got to
interrupt you. I'm sorry. We're coming to the end of
the segment. You get so excited. Now, Morris Columbus does
have some exciting Egypt programs and Okay, Godfrey's taking one.
We will see at Themorriscolumbus dot com website for our
escorted tours later this month, the Dan hone, you'll be

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taking a group there next spring. It's not up on
the website yet, but later this month. Dan, thank you
for joining us here on the Travel Show when we
come back, family Travel Experts here on the Travel Show
a family Travel Experts. There's nothing more than traveling with
the family. I have Havana and oscar Costa, my grandchildren,

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and we've got some exciting family vacations planned now. Last Christmas,
Kathy and I gave to all of our kids and
grandkids a spring break April twenty twenty six cruises Monday
through Friday. Most of the Utah school districts are out
April six to ten, Monday through Friday.

Speaker 2 (01:12:32):
Then of course you have the weekends.

Speaker 1 (01:12:34):
So we're going on a five day cruise out of
Los Angeles with Royal Caribbean on a fantastic ship. So
first of all, I want to welcome to the Travel Show, Havannah.
How are you, Havannah great?

Speaker 2 (01:12:49):
Now?

Speaker 1 (01:12:49):
You love family vacations, don't you?

Speaker 10 (01:12:52):
Yes?

Speaker 6 (01:12:53):
I do?

Speaker 13 (01:12:53):
Why because it's fun to be with my family and
cousins and spending time together.

Speaker 1 (01:13:01):
Now you've told me you're looking forward to our Gelwick's
Family Cruise next year. I always promised you I'd take
you on a cruise, didn't I? Yeah, And so we're
doing that. What are you looking forward to on the cruise,
the spring Break Cruise April six to ten next year.

Speaker 13 (01:13:19):
I'm looking forward to going in the swimming pools, the
kids club, the buffet, and oh I can eat ice crebes.

Speaker 1 (01:13:28):
You can eat ice cream. That's fantastic. Well let's bring
in your brother, Oscar.

Speaker 2 (01:13:35):
Oscar. Now you have cruised before, haven't you.

Speaker 13 (01:13:37):
Yes, I have, but I have not done it in
a while, so.

Speaker 1 (01:13:42):
I don't know a lot.

Speaker 2 (01:13:43):
Oh, yes you do, No, you do.

Speaker 1 (01:13:45):
A couple of years ago, January of twenty twenty three,
we had a travel show listeners group go on a
Mexico cruise and your mother, my daughter, your mother, Sarah,
and you went along with cousin Milo.

Speaker 2 (01:14:01):
That was a lot of fun.

Speaker 1 (01:14:02):
So what did you like about the cruise that we
took a couple years ago?

Speaker 13 (01:14:08):
What I did like was being with my cousins and
or just one cousin Milo Milo, and the food, the
kids club, it was amazing, the water park. It's just fun,
family family time, spending time. So just go buy tickets
and just do anything.

Speaker 1 (01:14:30):
You need.

Speaker 3 (01:14:31):
That's right, it's amazing.

Speaker 1 (01:14:32):
Well, you know we're going to have all of your
cousins here on this next cruise. And by the way, Havana,
your grandparents, Mimi and Vavo, who are in Miami are
listening to the show live because we broadcast everywhere. Do
you want to say something to Mimi and Vovo?

Speaker 2 (01:14:55):
What Anna say to him?

Speaker 4 (01:14:57):
Hi?

Speaker 2 (01:14:57):
We love you, we know you that much?

Speaker 1 (01:15:00):
Me, Me and I Oligia. That was great, Carlos, how's this Spanish?

Speaker 3 (01:15:07):
I think that they will replace you eventually?

Speaker 1 (01:15:10):
Yes, you know, we've often said I got to train
someone to eventually take over the show. To that we'll
give Havana an Oscar a few more years.

Speaker 2 (01:15:21):
That was fun. Listen.

Speaker 1 (01:15:23):
That really is a great program that we have next
year April sixth to the tenth, twenty twenty six. We
call it the Spring Break Escape Cruise. As I said,
most of the Salt Lake City School is not salt Lake.
The most of the Utah school districts are out that
Monday through Friday, and then you have the weekends on

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both ends of that. Not all the school districts, but
most of them. I know that Salt Lake and Granite
district have that off. So that was the gift of travel. Now,
I don't know what the prices are today. I checked
it the other day for a five day cruise. It
was in the for let's say a family, two adults,

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two kids with Royal Caribbean. It was in the low
four hundreds, as like four twenty five, four fifty something
like that. That included all taxes and fees. Now where
can you have a five day, four night vacation with
all your meals included? The itinerary is fantastic. We leave
on Monday, April sixth from Los Angeles, so you can
get on at lunchtime, enjoy that fantastic water park for

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adults and kids. They even have a little water park
for the littles what we call the little kids. You know,
that is so much fun. They do a great job
in the dining activities, shows and you have your family
together and his Havana mansed. They have a soft served
ice cream stop and it's all you can eat and

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the kids love that. So Monday we board this ship
probably at noon or something, have the rest of the
day free. Leave late afternoon Tuesday. Were in island that
is like a beach community, beautiful Sandy Beach there, think
of Santa Monica, Santa Cruz, Long Beach, all of these

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things put together. Then on Wednesday is a full day
at sea. I love the days at sea, three hundred
and sixty degrees of open ocean. And on Friday we
make a stop at Encinata, Mexico. And you know, I
like Port of ir To more. But what's fun, especially
for the family members, is all the tourist shops. You know,

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I call it here today, di I tomorrow with most of.

Speaker 2 (01:17:35):
What we buy.

Speaker 1 (01:17:36):
But the kids love being in Mexico and then back
to the ship in the afternoon, the rest of the
day at sea, and then returning to Los Angeles on Friday.
Now what's interesting is while we always recommend a passport
for your cruise, on this cruise a passport is not required.
So if you if you don't want to spend the

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money or the time to get it, you do have
to have proof of citizenship, which is your original or
certified birth certificate and for adults, a government issued photo.
Idea'd love to have you join me on this one,
the Spring Break Escape cruise, and Carlos, why don't you
come and be our translator.

Speaker 3 (01:18:18):
Well, that would be perfect, as long as you don't
feed me some in Gila.

Speaker 1 (01:18:23):
Oh, they'll can't have that bffet. By the way, some
of the buffets on cruises I find get very tired
and boring.

Speaker 2 (01:18:30):
Not on this ship. It is.

Speaker 1 (01:18:33):
It is absolutely fantastic. What we're going to do. Well, listen,
this so much to talk about. Don't forget the Fall
Travel XBO October eighteenth at the Davis Conference Center in Leyton.
Get all the details on this one day event that
will have over fifty travel vendors airlines, cruise lines, safari companies,

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travel companies, hotels, resorts with exclusive travel expo discounts. All
the details Utah travelxpo dot com. Now we still will
have in January our Saint George and Salt Lake. The
Salt Lake Mega Expo has over one hundred travel vendors.
Why only fifty and Davis because that's all we can

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fit in the conference center.

Speaker 2 (01:19:19):
We could easily put one hundred.

Speaker 1 (01:19:20):
There the details again, Utah travelxpo dot com. Now you
want to check out the Morris Columbus website Morriscolumbus dot com.
Morriscolumbus dot com, including a twenty percent Parkinjet discount coupon.
Go to the website and click on resources and if

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you want any of the escorted programs on the homepage
of Morriscolumbus dot com just scroll down to Morris Murdock
Escorted Tourists. Well, thank you for joining us. God bless
and we'll talk to you next week.