The Travel Show - Travel Advice and Travel Stories from Larry

Episode Transcript

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Welcome to the Travel Show. I'mLarry Gelwicks, they get Away Guru,
joined by Dan Hohne and Carlos Veda, two of the travel experts that will
take you around the world. Yes, it's the Argentinian Gaucho and the Bedouin
Traveler. We're so glad to welcomeyou to the Travel Show. You know

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you spend your weekend with us onthis time, at this very station.
We love to travel, we dreamof travel, we talk of travel.
And it has been said, gentlemena term I used loosely that free advice
is worth what you pay for it, which is nothing. Having that understanding,

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I'm asked a question all the time, and that is, Larry,
what's your single best piece of traveladvice? And I'm going to ask you
Dan, and you Carlos, whatis your best travel vice? Dan?
Well, I think it's when Ilearned from you. When you're getting ready
for the trip, go through,select the clothing as much as you think

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you'll absolutely need no more, andlay it out and then cut it in
half and then pack your bag andyou probably still have too much. Yeah,
you do that tonight before you goin your bed. The empty suit
case all your clothes, all yourmoney. Cut the clothes in half and
double the money, and you're goingto be in really good shack. Carlos,

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Well, I'm not so pragmatic,so what I have to say is
a little different. No, beforeyou go, you always tell that,
Larry. And what I do iswhen I prepare and I have a group
that will be traveling with me regularlyevery two weeks or sometimes three times in
a month, I send letters,descriptions and stories about the places that we

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will be seas so that people willbe prepared in their minds to enjoy the
wonders of the place that would be. This is really good advice. And
this is unique about Marris Columbus travelas well, because you know, other
groups put out materials, but thematerials that I see coming out of from
the hosts we have and other thingsis so complete, really good stuff.

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It's really good materials of all kinds. Not only does the office staff put
out some good materials, but thenwe see many of the faculty actually sending
out reading lists, pictures, explanations, everything, and really take advantage of
that. It'll mean a lot.Everyone who goes with me that talks about

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that finds that that is one ofthe highlights of the trip too. It's
the preparation they get that's good advice. In fact, Dan, you always
established a drop box exactly even afterthe trip is over. You, of
course spending most of your tour inthe Middle East, the Holy then Carlos
and South America. So here isthe Getaway Gurus absolute, positively over the

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top best travel advice. Unless youhave to go to a destination. I
have to go to Hawaii this year, I have to go to Europe this
year. Make a list and putyour maybe top ten dream list places that
you want to go and then sitback, listen to the Travel show every

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week, talk to your travel advisorat Morriscolumbus dot com, and also sign
up for the Hot Travel Deal Update. And I promise you that these deals
are just gonna come floating all downthe river. And rather than say I
have to do this this year,make that list and be prepared to add

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to it and just watch for thedeal to come along. One of my
favorite places is Hawaii. I havea love affair with Hawaii. I have
been there so many times. Youknow. Some years ago I used to
commute to Hawaii twice a month,and I did that for several years.
And my very first trip was innineteen sixty six. I was not born

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there, thank you very much.And I you know, I grew up
in San Francisco. I've told youthat over the air. And I used
to cut school and go surfing downat Steamer's Lane in Santa Cruz, you
know. And I had the surferhaircut or the surfer jams, the kind
of the longer shorts, you know, that were popular times. Thank you.

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Yes, David the statue, Ialways said, you know, Mike
Langelot statue. By the way,he was twenty six years old when he
did that, twenty three when hedid the Pieta, and he did it
in three years. Buffin said,I would like to go to the beach
and look like David with a swimsuiton just one time in my life.

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I'm not a greedy man, althoughI will say at sixteen, I look
pretty dark good in a swimsuit.That was a very long time ago.
I went to Hawaii and I spenta week surfing. I thought I was
really really cool. I wasn't,but I thought I was. When you're
sixteen hanging out with the surfers sittingthere. I just learning to play the
guitar. I'd taken a few lessons, and somebody had a guitar, and

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I dazzled the ladies with the onesong that I knew only half of it.
But Hawaii holds a special place inmy heart. Now here's what's interesting
about Hawaii. One hundred and thirtytwo islands and atolls. One hundred and
thirty two. But there are eightmajor islands. Let's see if we can

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name them. Name some Hawaiians majorislands. There's eight of them that come
to mind. Oh Wah well,o Waho, of course is the home
of Honolulu. O Wahu Hawaii thebig island of Hawaii, and we call
it the big island to differentiate fromthe Hawaiian islands. How about Maui,
Kawaii, Molokaii, Lenai, themysterious, secretive forbidden island. You can't

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go there, it's privately owned,Nihi How and Kaho Lave. Now Kaho
Lave, you don't want to go, nieh How you can't go, although
they do open up for a coupleof special tours. Famous for the puka
shells and the boar hunting over there. Is fantastic and some small deer and
they'll let people come over and gohunting just to generate cash. But Kaho

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Lave, you really don't want togo. It is not in use now,
but it was used as a Navytraining bombing island. They blew it.
They just keep blown it to spathe rings. Now here's also what
is the tallest mountain in the world, Mount Everest at twenty nine thousand and

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thirty two feet. Wrong. Ifyou measure a mountain from its base,
it's Mona Kea in Hawaii because thebase is under the water. But where
the mountain actually starts thirty three thousand, five hundred feet almost forty five hundred

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feet taller than Mount Everest. Andwhat's so fun over there is beaches.
Now, what do we like inHawaii? We like a white sand beach,
blue ocean waters, palm trees,gentle trade winds blowing in off the
Pacific at a luau. All right, Well, in Hawaii you have four
different types of sand beaches. Youhave white sand, well, the black

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sand beach, red sand, andgreen sand. Now it's not a fire
cherry engine red, but it's definitelyred. Kind of a pinkish hue to
it, and then green several greensand beaches from the secretions of the plants
and everything. Just so much fun. And did you know what is associated

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food wise with Hawaii, Well,it would be the coconut and the pineapple.
Neither one of them is native orindigenous to Hawaii. They were brought
from South America. Correct, Well, certainly the pineapple was. Now I've
got some advice to here's some morefree advice, worth what you pay for
it. When you are booking atrip to Hawaii, I want you to

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follow these recommendations. Number one,look for secret airfares. Now that's a
term I use. The actual industryterm is a tour operator fare, and
they are contract fares deeply discounted.But to a few, a handful of

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tour operas, including Morris Columbus Travel. We have these secret airfares, but
you have to bundle them with something. You can't sell air only because they
don't want that disclosed. So it'sa car rental, even for just two
days. I know people will takethe two day car rental never even pick
it up because the whole package isless than the differs. That's number one.

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Number two make a decision is itone island, two or multiple?
If you're there a week, stayon one island, don't overplan, you
want to enjoy it. Number three, be aware of the evil resort fees
which the Biden administration may try toget rid of. That's an interesting story

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there, but typically these resort fees, which is just an add on,
is thirty to fifty dollars a dayper room, and you get squat for
it. Oh well, you canuse the pool, you can make unlimited
local calls or extra person charges.Number four, Book your activities before you
go. And number five, doyou really need a rental car? Because

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hotels typically charge forty to fifty dollarsa day for the parking of a car.
If I need a car and I'min Waikiki, I don't get one
at the airport. I pick itup that morning in Waikiki, I go
around the island, I drop itoff that night. So secret airfares.
How many islands? Be aware ofparking and resort fees, Book your activities

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before you go, and you reallyneed a rental car? All that and
more on Today's Travel Show. You'relistening to the Travel Show on Talk Radio
one. Oh five nine knrs.Just listen and you'll know. Helloha Travelo

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Show No Kaoi. I'm Larry Galwaysto Get Away Guru, and welcome to
the Travel Show. I'm joined byDan Hohne and Carlos Feda, two of
the travel experts that'll take you justabout anywhere around the world. We were
talking about Hawaii and what a greatplace it is. It's such a popular

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destination, and I think one ofmy favorite foods there is simeon. Simon
is very similar to ram and it'skind of Hawaii's favorite noodle soup dish,
noodles in a broth with a varietyof toppings, and one of the most
popular toppings in the bowl of simonin Hawaii is spam. The Hawaiians love

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spam. They eat it with theireggs, they eat it spam sandwiches,
they put it on pizza. Ithink maybe being out in the sun that
long did something to them. Wewant to turn our attention to South America
with Carlos Feda or Argentinian Gaucho.You know, I'm pretty good in South
America. Carlos has forgotten more thanI think I know. It is it

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is another Abraham upon us. Butyou know, you were a university professor
in Argentina and you've been recognized bygovernments, You've won so many awards for
your industry knowledge. So I'm gonnaI want to put you to the test
here. There's so many places tosee in South America, and the big,

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the big misunderstanding is, well,I've been. I've been to Mexico.
You know it's it is so differentthe cultures. So I'm going to
tie you down to three must seethere's thirty must see destinations in South America,
but I want you to tell meabout three why they are your personal

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favorites, and a little bit inthe history behind them. Okay, My
number one is Machu Picchu. Whythis is the ruins, you know,
perched on top of the mountains,and you see these huge rocks which are
the remains of palaces gardens in thismountain, and you wonder where did they

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get the stones and how did theypolish the stones to make this thing?
Okay? Him Bingham in nineteen elevenwas there traveling to discover where the conquistadores
traveled, and he ended up inwhat today is Machu Picchu. So they

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said, well he was the discovererof Machu Picchier. Now he was not
the discovered. There were some peopleliving in what today is a Wescalientes.
That's the whole town. By theway, the Provian government, in a
moment of unbridled foolishness, changed theofficial name from Aguas Calientes because of the
hot the thermo springs there. Itis a delightful little town with and it

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catered to tourists. You got lotsof shopping and restaurants. They changed it
to Machu Picchu. Well, butdon't worry, because every government makes a
change, and so they go fromMachu Picchu to what was Callintus and work
Collo too, Macho Pictro. Itdoesn't matter. The interesting thing is this
when hid and Bingam was there,he took a lot of stones, skeletons

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of people that have died there,that were buried there, rocks, and
he took them to Yale University andthey exhibited at the museum for many many
years. There was what was thepurpose about your pichu? Then let's move
on. In number two, thestory is that there was a shrine,
rather than didn't the priest live atthe top. The priests yeah, they

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were. The priest were there,you know, and the inhabitants were very
little, and the Inca used tovisit the place. So you know,
Machu Picchu is one of my favoritedestinations. You take the train down from
Cusco through the Sacred Valley and it'sa dome train. Tell me another one
of your three tops. Another oneis that's one of the wondrous of things.

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Now that's yeah. You can viewit both on the Brazilian and Argentinian
set. But I gotta tell you, even though you're a native brazil Argentinian,
the brazil side is the action isI would say, yes it is.
It is two hundred and seventy fivewaterfalls. And when Eleanor Roosevelt first
saw Iguasou, what did she say? My poor Niagara. Okay, now

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let's go on to number three.The number three would be Easter Island.
It's a mischievous that's part of PolynesiaRapanui, yes, but it's also part
of Chile. It belongs to Chile, but they speak Spanish, which is
the official language, but they alsospeak their own language, the Rapanui language.

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Well, you know what intrigues meabout Easter Island is the Maai,
the May's you know, were builtby some civilization there and they're huge,
you know, they're they're huge.Some of them are standing and some of
them are buried under the ground.The island in itself is a series of
craters, the volcano. It's avolcano. Very few people living there,

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but there are over nine hundred MOAIs. And for our listeners, if you
were to see a picture of amoai, you would immediately recognize that these
elongated, weird shaped faces. Butwhen kind of modern civilization found them,
they were mostly buried under the ground. They were and they and there and

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there. Some of them are standingand they look like sentinels overlooking you know,
the ocean that there's the cities ofthem that are Sandi. What's your
favorite food back home in Argentina?Steaks and pasta and second steaks and pasta,
third steaks, yes now and thepasta. Because your didn't your father

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immigrate from Italy. South America Icall the Undiscovered continent because people typically and
I get this, typically go toEurope first. You know, a lot
of it has to do with roots, but South America must be on your
absolutely, I've got to go.There's and what surprises people the culture.

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Although it's mostly Spanish speaking, theculture is so very different in each country.
You actually have countries whose official languageis English, Spanish, Portuguese,
even some catch you one in thereand Dutch, and that there are any
languages that are ethnic languages. Youknows that live in the jungles of Peru,

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they have their own language. InBrazil they have Portuguese, of course,
but they have in Pernambuco, whichthen where they Macuca comes. That's
the place where the Dutch settled.You can check out all of the South
America tours with Carlos and the otherexpert guides at Morriscolumbus dot com. Morris

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Coolumbus dot com. Click on EscortedTours and click on South America More coming
your way on the travel shop.You're globe Trotting with me around the World

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Gelwick to get Away Guru joined byDan June and Carlos Fida. The travel
show is sponsored by Morris Columbus Travelwhere you Always Travel More and pay Less
and Norwegian Cruise Line, the homeof freestyle cruising, Dan and Carlos.
One of the great benefits of travelare the memories. Now I want to

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do a little exercise with you.I'm going to ask you both a question
simultaneously. You have two seconds toanswer, all right, and it's just
two seconds. Tell me at Christmasgift you got three years ago? Not

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a clue, okay, but Iassume you got how about two years ago?
Last year? No? Okay,Now there's a point behind this,
because I got you got a tie. Well it's a tie. Okay.
Now I'm going to ask you asecond question, and you have two minutes

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to answer it, or excuse me, two seconds to answer it. Just
top of mind awareness. I wantyou to name a destination where as a
child you went on a vacation Germany, Pentagonia. Well, you know,
why is it that you can reachback so many years into your childhood and

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remember a trip, a travel,a vacation, and yet something a year
ago Christmas? We can't remember thegifts. Now, I will tell you
this, I'm not diminishing Christmas gifts. A tie, a bicycle, a
book, address, all of thesethings. They're really nice, they're wonderful,

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but they're things where travel does somethingto your heart and your soul.
It stirs the very essence of yourIt creates a memory and that memory stays
with you a lifetime. Well,you know, I mentioned Patagonia. When
I went to Patagonia, I thinkI was seventeen or a jacket. No,

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it's not a jacket. It's aregion and Chilean for me, that
is a very spiritual place. Silence, beautiful mountains, Glaciers is a land
that is a miracle. Is thepart of the creation. But the most
important thing is how you feel whenyou are there alone, nobody's around you.

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And all of these memories to Dan, you and I've talked a lot
about your travels for decades in theHoly Land. See, these are memories,
bicycles, books, books, They'rewonderful, but they're things. And
so I look back over a lifetimeof travel. I'm the ultimate travel junkie

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and I have so many members.One of the more interesting ones happened in
Russia. Now I love Russia,the people, the government. That's a
whole different story, you know.And so we went there on a cruise.
Now, typically the Baltics include twoor three days in Saint Petersburg,

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and Saint Petersburg is a fabulous city. Peter, the Great Catherine, you
have you know, the Nevskaprovsky,which is like the main drag. It's
like Fifth Avenue, the Winter Palace. It is a beautiful The subway system
is an absolute work of art.And so we went there, Kathy and

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I and another couple. We gotoff the ship and we had three days
there and we had a private guideand driver. You know, the driver's
a man. Ludmila was the woman. Now, she was taken back by
some of the things that I wantedto do. For example, I said,
I want to go stand in abread line Buttura, and I said,

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I want the experience. I'm hereto experience Russian. So she took
me to this bakery and you hadto stand in the line that went outside
and down the block, and yougo in and you pay your money,
and then you go outside again tothe other side and get in a line
and you go up there and youget your wonderful, warm Russian bread.

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And we went to a grocery storewhere there's like nothing on the shelves.
And you know, my first impressionwas, what were we ever afraid of?
They cannibalize every car and truck,airplanes, trains, you know,
I don't fly within Russia. I'lltake the train. I will not fly

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there. I just I don't haveconfidence in their safety. No good.
Internationally they're okay because they have Istill don't fly them for a lot of
other reasons. But you know,they have to be international safety stand but
internally, so we're doing all thesethings. We go to the Stroganov Square,

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run into a fellow. She introducesthis the kind of the security guard
at Stroganoff Square, explains that we'refrom America, and she's translating, Oh,
you know my uncle, he livesin New York City. Yeah,
yeah, we know Vladimir. Anyway, So then I knew through some research

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that they have a unique military equipmentsystem. We're talking about the real stuff,
and think of it like an RIItype store camping gear for the citizens,
you know, tanse clothing. Butsome of them have a private security
area with guards where you have tohave military papers to get not weapons,

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but clothing and gear, and youhave to show your orders there. So
I said to lude Mila, whospoke excellent English, I want to go
to one of these stores, andI happen to have the address. She
says, well, you can't gothere. I said, yes, I
can. She says, well,they will not sell you anything. And

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I said, well, let's justgo and find out. She didn't want
to go. She's very nervous aboutit. But anyway, we go there
and we're milling around you the RIItype store, and I said, okay,
go over to him. There wasthe guard there and he was behind
the counter, had a buzzer door. There's an alarm light that goes on
if anybody opens the door, whichis automatically locked. Anyway, I said,

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now I want you to go overand tell him that I want to
do in the back and I wantto pick up some gear and clothing.
But tell him this, I haveAmerican dollars. That's the busword it is.
So she walks over there and they'retalking. Suddenly he just jerks his

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head, you know, and islooking at me and he is eyeing me
upside and down. And then hesays something to her, and he's billowing
with a cigarette smoke, and she'swalking back head down, shaking her head.
And I said, well, atleast I tried. I didn't get
in, and she goes, Ido not understand. He said, wait,

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he will go in the back.Leave the door unlocked, turn off
the alarm. Kathy is saying,you are stupid. Well, she didn't
use that word, she used foolish. Anyway, it says, don't do
this. Don't do this. You'regoing to get arrested. They're going to
send you to Siberia and You're childrenwill be orphans and I'll be a widow.

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And anyway, so I walk overthere, and you know, I
just kind of wait. There's noone at the counter. I'm ready for
the alarm to go off. AndI turned the handle of the door,
open the door up and there's noalarm there. And did you ever see
the movie Hunt for Red October?Yes, you remember where the American sub

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commander goes down into Red October andno words are spoken. The Russians are
smoking and they and they are justlooking at each other stare down. That's
exactly what it was. He wassitting there smoking and just looking at me,

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and I understood there. I didn'tsay anything. And there's probably silence
for twenty thirty seconds tops, butthat seems like an eternity. And he
goes, you have American dolens AndI said, yes, what you want,
that's all I said. Now youknow, this was like twenty five

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years ago. So I told hebrought an entire general's outfit, and I
said, no, no, no, I don't want that. And so
I got some hats. I gota twenty five year KGB commemorative pocket watch.
I got. You know, infact, in the Hunt for Red
October, you see a looks likea star, four pointed star that's in

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the pin of the Submarine Corps ofRussia. I got one of those,
and I'm saying in the movie that'sthe real pin. I got belt.
You know those fur hats that havefold up on the side. I got
one for my son, my teenageson, who had the big hammer and
sickle. It was quite a hitup at Brighton when he would go skiing,
you know. So I got allthis gear and he had these big

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like shopping bags. I got twoshopping bags and belts and medals and stuff
KGB. How cool is that aKGB watch? Anyway, so I say
how much he's looking me over andhe goes and I knew he was going
to go high, but he surprisedme. He goes six dormers and I

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said done, and he looked atme and you could tell the look on
his face. I should have gonefor eight, you know. Anyway,
so I pack it on walking out, and Mila's face was classic. She's
just unbelievable. So we did that. Now it's time to get back to
the ship. And when you getoff the ship, the Russian army is
there. When you go back on, you have to do the ext ray,
and the Russian Army, not thecruise people, let you back through

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security. Well, I'm a prettyfriendly guy. This was on day three.
I started talking to the officer incharge and his name was Vladimir,
and you know, we just kindof talking back and forth, and we're
going up and a lot of peoplehad bought knockoff fake stuff, you know,
and they just confiscated and then theyresell it on the street. It's

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a con game. I have thereal stuff. What's gonna happen? Kathy
is now positive I'm going to bearrested. And so we get up there,
and I know something about human natureand yeah, and so I went
over and this like buck private opensup the bag and the look on his

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face recognizing this is authentic, it'slike, where did you get that?
And he says something to the tothe officer in charge. Well, I'd
already given the officer twenty bucks,and I gave him the twenty bucks and
I said, I want these bagsto go on the ship. He said
okay. You know, he didn'tcare. He said something in Russian waved

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us on. We went back onthe ship and I didn't end up in
Siberia, but it was one ofthe class. See these experiences that I'll
remember a lifetime. How I bribedmy way out of Russia and to this
day I still have that. Andyou should see my son in his Russian
hammer and sick ill hat, youknow, teasing the slopes at Brighton.

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Well, so much fun that wehave, and I've got a lifetime of
stories like this. Well, whenwe come back, I want to talk
about some popular foods in both SouthAmerica and the Holy Land right here on
the Travel Show. You're listening tothe Travel Show on Talk Radio one oh

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five nine kN r S. Justlisten and you'll know welcome to the Travel
Show. I'm Larry Gelwicks to getAway Guru, joined by Dan Hone and
Carlos Feeda, and we want togive you a very big shout out and

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thank you. You are the starof the show. I mean, without
you, we don't have a show. In fact, we don't even have
a job, you know. AndI never take that for granted that you
folks make all of this possible.So God bless you and keep listening,
you know, Fellas. One ofthe most memorable parts of any trip is

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the food, the dining, andit's fun to try not only familiar foods,
but new foods. You know.One of the things we always did
as a family when I'd come backfrom the far corners of the world,
I would bring a CD of nativemusic that we would listen to as a
family, and we would prepare atdinner with typical native foods of that country.

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The kids really loved it. Whenwe do Italy, let's go get
a pizza, you know. ButDan, you have lived in the Middle
East for some ten years. Yougot your graduate degree at at Israeli University.
I mean, that's kind of yourlove is Israel and the whole of
that Egypt, Jordan. What aresome of your favorite foods from the Middle

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East? Well, of course,one that I know you enjoy as well
as shwarmas shwarma falafel, and thedifference is well a swarma either has beef
or turkey now or lamb in itthat's on a skewer, so that it's
made so that they cut it offas it's barbecued, you might say,

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shave it off. And then thathas types of salad sauces in it to
heat other things, whereas the falafawas made of garbonzo beans, again with
salads and things eaten. By theway, it's not peter like you have
here in this country. You know, I don't. I don't think that

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there's anything better when it comes rightout of the oven. Oh, when
it's puffed up as it comes out. My wife knows how to make that.
By the way, let me bethe judge of that. Invite me
over. What else? What arethe foods? Well, of course there's
the famous Palestinian food that's mook laba, and that word means upside down.
You take a huge pot and youhave rice that you put in it.

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You also put a few pine nutsother things as you want, and then
you have chicken in the mook lava. It's not the one that's uh mansaf,
which has got the lamb in it. And what you do is you
turn it, you cook it alltogether. It's and you put goat cheese
on it and everything, and youturn it upside down and so the pot

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shape it's still in the shape ofthe pot. And of course when you
eat this, you have to havesharrok. Sharrock is bread that's cooked on
a taboon or a large ovens sayoh taka dome and psycho dome that's over
hot coals and a hot fire.Do you know who does that very well?
That type of bread is the NazarethVillage. Yes, we often go

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there. Dan and I will hostHoly Land tours and Dan takes some himself,
and the ones we really like iswhen we both go together. But
we visit the Nazareth Village, whichis a recreation of what a village in
Nazareth, the childhood home of Josephand Mary and then Jesus later when they

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came out of Egypt. But tohave a lunch there where all the foods
carlos are from the first century,what Jesus may have eaten. And they
do a bread in that very similarfashion, very quickly wrap it up.
What else do you like? Well, I mentioned Mansef and the sharak we've
described, But when you eat manseffwith the rice and the goat cheese on

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it and the lamb and everything.You reach in with a piece of this
unleven bread, if you will,and you grab it into a ball and
then you pop it in your mouth. And by the way, this is
served in the real serving of itis served on a large plate that is
about two feet wide, and it'spiled up about that high above it with

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the rice and everything. And that'sdelicious, good stuff. All right,
Let's go to South America. Well, in Argentina, of course I like
steaks, but I also like lamb. In Paragonia, we will be eventually,
we will taste lamb. I thought. For Argentina, say saddle,

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Well, that's that's that's a saddle, that's a that's a that's a typical
saddle. In fact, they cookit outside grill and it's grilled so and
it's delicious. Another food in SouthAmerica that I like is the saveca in
Peru, which is a marinated fish, fish or seafood in general, marinated

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with lemon. That is delicious.And the last one that I like and
I really prefer and I love itis the mochika in Brazil. Oh I
was hoping you'd say, you know, that's one of my favorite dishes,
and it's kind of a more ofa tradition of northern Brazil. Yes,
in Salvador de Bayou, that's thetypical food, and of course it's rice,

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but they make a sauce with ashrimp and it's just an amazing dish.
Well, that makes me salivate.I'm ready to go eat now.
I think some of my favorite memorieswas a Chateaubrion beef cut in Switzerland.
But take me to Thailand or Chinaand some of the food. Actually,

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the Thai food in Thailand is betterthan here, But the Chinese food in
the USA is better than in China. It just really is. I remember
asking a concierge at a hotel inSoul, Korea for a great Korean restaurant.
I said, I want the bestfood, and he said, we'll

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go to America, and I laughed. I said, no, really said,
really, America has all the bestchefs and the best food. Well,
listen, we come back for ournumber two of the Travel Show.

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Welcome back to the Travel Show,our number two, the best two hours
in radio. I'm Larry Gellwicks theGetaway Guru, joined by the Argentinian gaucho
himself, Carlos Feda and our newBedouin traveler wanderer Dan Hone. That just
fits you, it does, hedoes. He's done some safaris going through

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Wadi Rum there in Jordan, justthis last spring, two hours on the
camels. Fantastical, unbelievable, unbelievable. Listen, you know we're talking about
favorite places, and Africa has anappeal to me. There's a rawness,
the primal life, a daily struggleof life and death, of birth and

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survival. And if you're going todo an African safari, and you know,
for most people to once in alifetime event, not for me,
but for most people, I recommendKenya only in the months of July,

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August and September for so called Greatmigration. It's a true national geographic event.
Now you can witness the Great migration. It's like the whole herd of
animals is on the move. Oneand a half million, will the beasts,
half a million zebras all are onthe move in search of water.

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They'll return, you know, forbirthing and all that. But it's only
in Kenya and Tanzania, and thisis trustillary time go to Kenya, the
infrastructure, everything about the experience.You know, Nongre and Gore craters quite
famous, and you know that's notin Kenya. But Kenya offers fifty game

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parts. Not one of them hasa fence. And of those fifty,
there are four big ones, themost important, the most famous. We
do regular tours to Africa in July, August and September. We have some
others. You know, there's somethingspecial about Africa every season, but we

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focus on July, August and September. I take one at least one every
year and I so look forward toit. But it's because of that migration.
Now these four game parks. Youhave Amboseli over on the far eastern
corner of the country. We tendto be more on the west. And
the big three that we visit isSamburu, Old Pajetta and of course the

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Serengetti, the Masai Mara. Masaiare actually a tribe. They're rather tall.
You see them in their celebration jumpingup and down. And then the
Mara is a description of the countrymeaning spotted. You fly over it and
you see clumps of trees it lookslike a polkadot, you know, but

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the mar is a river, andone of the things you want to do
is know the lodges that you stayin. We stay in Spectacular Lodge.
Now give you an example up onthe Serengeti, right on the bend of
the Mara River. All the animalsare hanging out there and there's a big
overview to it, a balcony lookingdown on them. And we typically do

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three game park drives a day,six fifteen, six thirty when the animals
are moving the most active, andwe're back nine thirty for breakfast, leave
about eleven, come back at onethirty for lunch. We'll leave it three
point thirty four and come back atdusk. Now, for example, we
stay at the Ashville Lodge up onthe mar in the Serengetti. Once we're

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in our vehicles, and these vehicleshave the pop up top, we'll seat
eight. We never put more thanfour because you want to be able to
move around get your photos. Unlessit's a family or a group of friends
that request, well, there's fiveof us, there's six of us and
we want to be together, thenwe'll put them in. But that's your
call not ours. We don't schedulemore than four in a vehicle. And

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for example, on the Serengetti,once you're in your vehicle, you're outside
the gates in thirty seconds or lessand you're looking for animals. Where the
other lodges and they're wonderful lodges.It's hour to two hour drive each way.

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They missed the early morning and theymissed the evening one. And you
know, I can get quite busyduring the day, but there's something about
Africa. My wife was hesitant togo because she thought it would all be
you know, lions eating and theyhave bambi they have to eat. But

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I remember this one time where wewere at a lake and it was the
stillness of Africa. You can hearthe stillness, and we're in our vehicle
and there's just this ever so slightrumbling. The ground is shaking, just

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barely what's coming. And up overthe up over the hill that was probably
four hundred feet from us, threehundred feet both sides of the football field
comes a herd of three or fourhundred buffalo. Cape buffalo, not to
be confused with water buffalo. They'revery different, and they come and they

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surround the vehicle, no danger,They wallow in the mud, they drink,
and they're with us for about halfan hour, and then they move
on and the stillness that you canhear and feel returns. And then suddenly
we see a herd of about thirtyelephants, including a baby that our guide

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said is about a week old.And it's a nurturing mother, patriarchal society.
Everybody with their trunks just kind ofpushing the baby along, one week
old and on his journey through life. These of the type of experiences that
you have in Africa. And thena sunset at night and just the and

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then what's really cool is at nightyou're in your lodge and you're, you
know, doing whatever, sleeping,reading, and you hear the animals.
You hear the hippos bellowing, thelions roary. Did you know that you
can hear a fully grown male adultlion roar up to five miles away?

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And let me tell you that grabsyour attention. One of my favorite areas
as far as memories, has tobe time. And now you've heard me
say, if it weren't for mykids and grandkids, Kathy and I would
live in Thiland. It's the people, the culture, the food, everything
about it. There's a politeness thatyou feel, you absolutely feel. And

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as you go into other Southeast Asiancountries, which I dearly love to borrow
a phrase from the movie, youfeel a disruption in the forest. There's
something different going on there, youcan feel it. But there is a
calm in Chaila and the politeness.You know, they greet you with their

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hands pressed together just below their chinin a prayer mode, and they'll have
a bow and greet you. SoI come home and I introduce this to
my children as you should greet yourfather with a bow. And it's called
a why. That's no relation tothe school. It's called a why.

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Dad. You're so dumb, sodidn't go. You know. I think
of Thailand. You have three areasof Thailand. You have the midlands where
Bangkok and that whole area. Thenup north it's the foothills of the Himalayas.
The best elephant experience is up northin the cheng Dao Valleys. What

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I like, just outside of Changmi, you have the Golden Triangle, you
have cheng Rai, you have thebotanical gardens of the Royal family. But
down south, you gotta love it. Baby. It is the islands you
have. And the tie word forisland is co and so you have Ko
Samui, Ko Krabbi, Co Puquetteand many many others. Puquet happens to

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be my personal favorite. And they'rewhat I like to do. And this
is the land of the King andI. And by the way, here's
you're a Middle East guy. Whowas the pharaoh in the in the movie
with Charlton Heston Commandments and who wasthe king and the King and I?

(47:43):
Yule Brenner, you know, andhe will always be Pharaoh to me.
And let me ask you this.I'll come back to Pondong Bay later.
You and I have had a lotof discussion. Was that A'munhutep or Ramses
the pharaoh at the time of Moses? Well, my personal preference and archaeologists
are now moving the same direction isthat it was actually during the tetnoal Side

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period in Ammenhotep's time, that's Almanhotepthe third approximately that time period, rather
than Ramsey's which comes much later tocenturies almost well, you know, and
it's a difference of from the fifteenthcentury to the thirteenth century approximately when the
Ten Commandments being made. Everyone knewthe name Ramss. Very few knew who

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an Amman Hotep was. Yeah,you know you And I've also had a
discussion. Moses may not have beenhis full name. You have like tut
Moses, Moses, ah Moses,So that is the name that we identify
with. And Charlton Heston will alwaysbe Moses. And the best part of
the movie is Moses Moses. Youremember that. And then when the Green

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Death the comes in to the city. That's all real cool. Well,
so many great memories. When wecome back, I want to tell you
about one of the greatest experiences inmy life when I actually live with the
Abligines and went deep dive into theirculture. Here on the Travel Show.

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You're listening to the Travel Show ontalk Radio one oh five nine kN rs.
Just listen and you'll know Welcome backto the Travel Show. I'm Larry
Gelwicks, the Getaway Guru, joinedby Dan Hoad and Carlos Fida, two

(49:44):
of the great travel experts and twogreat friends. The Travel Show is sponsored
by Morris Columbus Travel where you AlwaysTravel More and pay Less and Norwegian Cruise
Line, the home of free stylecruising. Well, I'm often asked about
memorable travel experiences. You know,an event or an experience that completely changes

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one's life. And I've been travelingmy whole life, I told you.
As a kid growing up in SanFrancisco, I used to go down to
the wharf and watch the ships pushout and sail under the Golden Gate Bridge,
dreaming that maybe someday I'd go somewhere. When I got my driver's license,
I went out to San Francisco InternationalAirport SFO, and there's no security

(50:30):
back then. Anybody could walk aroundand I'd watch planes land and take off.
No jetways. Everything was stairs.And as I got older, my
nightly reading was National Geographic and aWorld Atlas. I just look at maps
and dreamed that maybe someday I couldgo somewhere. I've had so many life

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changing experiences. One of the mostmemorable is when I was a young man,
just barely out of college Okay,and I went to Australia. I
had a friend. He was arugby teammate from South Africa who had made
friends with an older fellow, probablyin his early fifties, whose name was

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John Lord In Australia. Now,John was a true crocodile dundee, I
mean, and he lived up inwhat's called Kakadu Country up near Darwin,
top end we call it, andthey took He had a massive cattle ranch
and it was taken. He wascompensated to put it together what we would

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call like a reservation. It wasa homeland for the indigenous Aborigines of Australia.
And I was introduced to him,kind of made friends, and I
wanted a real outback experience. Heasked me if I'd lived with the Aborigines,

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and this was correspondence and got itworked out. So I fly to
Australia. I go diving on theGreat Barrier if I'm a scuba diver,
and did some other things, somehiking and Lamington National Park just outside of
Brisbane, teased the waves at SurfersParadise, and then flew up to Darwin.

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I get picked up and we goout maybe two hundred miles deep into
the outback and we meet a family, mom, dad, the boy who's
about fourteen, the girl who's aboutten, and he drops me off.
He stays the first night. Dadspoke a tiny bit of English. Mom

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spoke none. The kids spoke passableEnglish because they're supposed to be in school,
but they never are. They'd neverdone anything like this. This was
not a tourist event. This wasthe real thing. And then I remember
he left and I lived with thisavereginal family. I hunted with them.
I dressed like them. I'll justleave it at that. Uh, I'm

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dressed. No details, but notwhen the mama or the girls were around,
not that anyway. So but Ihunted with a spear. The only
difference what I wore. They wentbarefoot, and this was I mean,
we went native, and I woresome sandals. My feet were hard enough.

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But I hunted with the spears.Terrible. But we're out one time
and we brought down this wild boar. I actually took an axe and chopped
its tusks, offs, boiled them, gave them away as gifts. But
it was getting dark and we wereabout a mile from our camp. We'd
just slept out, you know,and so we said, it's going to

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be dinner. It's a wild boar, you know, ham sandwiches, And
so we say, well, we'llcome back tomorrow and get it. We
go back the next day, it'sgone, and he looks at the tracks.
He says, about a fourteen footer. A croc came out of the
bill of bog and took it.We we would catch these. Go on
the lizards with our hands, notiguana, but go on it. And

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they're dumber than bricks. You findtheir nesting hole and you just kind of
straddle it, and everybody else beatsthe bush, even with you standing there.
They run straight to the nesting holeand you whack them and you throw
them into the fire. You don'tgot them or anything to throw it right
in the fire. They puff upblack. You chop the tail off and

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pop it open like a pea pod, and you take the tail out,
which is like string cheese. Wellit doesn't taste like string cheese, of
course, it tastes like chicken,but it has that you know that.
There you go. And I hadso many experiences, and then I had
to go out on dream time bymyself. Now I did. The whole

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thing was covered, you know,partially in white paint and all of that,
but what I did. So Johncomes back and we drive and he
drops me off. We're two hundredmiles. We're four wheeling. It where
there's no roads, and he says, he gives me a topographic go back.

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I did have a water purification pumpand a compass and a map.
That's it. And I had abackpack and I'm sleeping out in the middle.
Some of the most poisonous snakes andspiders in the world live out there,
and that's what I had to face. And so he says, he

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puts an X on the map,and in so many days, he says,
I'll pick you up here. AndI remember him. Now, I
didn't have the safety of the Aboriginalfamily. They could, you would just
look. They could tell you whatanimals had been walking. They knew how
to trap, they knew how tohunt. I was trying to pick up

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some of those skills. And theyhave two types of crocs there. They
have a fresh EyeT and a salty. The fresh you have a more narrow
snout. They're a little bit smaller. They probably won't kill you if there
is chew on your leg. Butthe salties are the twenty footers and they
live in saltwater, freshwater or brackish. They're mean, they're nasty, they

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will stalk you. They will comeout because they can smell you and hunt
you very dangerous animals. So I'min this situation. He drops me off.
I'm going to where I'm going tomeet him, and I come to
a river, and this is theapex of the story. I'm in Crock
Country. How do I get acrossthis river? Now, when we come

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back, I'm going to tell youhow I got across the river in Crock
Country. It was a life changingevent. It changed me forever, and
I taught this principle to missionaries.I'll tell you that and more here on
the Travel Show. Welcome back tothe Travel Show. I'm Larry Gelwick's the

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getaway Guru, joined by the intrepidBedouin himself, Dan Hone and our Argentinian
gaucho, Carlos Fda. All right, let me finish that story, and
then Dan, I want you totake us to the Holy Land, to
Israel, Egypt and Jordan. Sothere I am in the middle of the
outback, two hundred miles from Darwin. Most of it. John had dropped

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me off. We were just fourwheeling it. No roads, no nothing.
I'm now without my support group ofthe Aboriginal family. John's not there.
I'm gonna pick you up. AndI remember as he drove off,
I had this sinking feeling, likewhat have you done? You know,

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there's actually kind of a slogan.It's called dumb ways to Die, Dumb
ways to Die. But I hadto do it. So I come to
this river and I would say itwas probably about oh, forty feet across,
thirty feet across, that's about whatI'm in the middle of crop country.

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So this is where I learned theFIO principle. F I, oh,
this is the life changer. There'sno helpline, there's no Google,
there's no nobody to ask. Andso what I did, and it was
clear water, and that was,I mean fairly clear. Had it been

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muddy, I don't know what Iwould have done, because those crocks like
to lay on the bottom and youstep on them, and you know,
you lose a foot in the leg. So the first thing I did is
there was like bamboo in the area, and some of the bamboo is fifteen
feet tall or more. I startedchopping down bamboo and I made these long
poles and I probed. It wasprobably about thirty feet across. I started

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probing as far as I could thebottom. Then I got rocks, and
I was like a shot put,you know, not small rucks, big
rutch that I would heave at likea shot put to disturb the water.
And then it's time to go.So I take the backpack off and you
hold it in front of it.If there's a charge from a croc,

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you put the backpack out and it'lltake it first and then you, you
know, hopefully take your chances.Yeah. Yeah. So I take the
backpack off and about halfway across andI hear the unmistakable splash of a crop,

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not sliding into the water, butgoing off a It's not loud,
but it's unmistakable. And I turnedand I see, oh, it was
probably about a twelve thirteen footer andit came and then turned the other way
it. You know, had itbeen hungry, I would have had real
problems. And have you ever seencartoons where people lifted up and their legs

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are going as this boom, youknow, like that, it's like,
oh, you're racing across this river. And I got to the other side.
But I've thought about this many times, that we face situations in life
that figure it out. You haveto figure it out, and you get

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I did all. I did everythingthat I could and it you know,
Oh, I just had to figureit out now, I said, I
taught this to missionaries. I hadthe unbelievable pleasure of presiding over a mission
for the church that we attend andoversaw seven hundred and thirty missionaries in our

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three years in the California Fresno Missionand missionaries I gotta love them, you
know, even religion aside. They'reeighteen years old, months out of high
school and they give it all up, lay it all on the line.
But they think their mission president isthe great Wizard of Oz, the all

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knowing, the all seeing Oz.And many times they would come with me
and we'd discussed their question and wehad an expression in our mission that was,
fel figure it out. You goto the Lord, build your area
after the manner that he will showyou. We can take you know what

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we have, but do it afterthe man And to this day we finished
our service in California in twenty fourteen. To this day, those missionaries in
their jobs at home talked about feofeo f I own so that that was
a life changing event for me.I face situation just like you folks do.

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We all face hardships. Go feelfigure it out, counsel with the
Lord, figure it out, andsolve any problem after the manner that he
will show you. Anyway, Dan, I want you to take you That
was a great experience, you know. And can you just imagine me hunting
with a spear. I was horrible. I was very much no comment.

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You could have been eaten alive.You know. There was one time where
I had a sense. I actuallywent swimming in a hole. It was
so hot, jumped in and Iwas in there for a short time and
I had a sense, get out, get out now, and I did.
And I never saw anything, butI got that sense, you know.

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Anyway, Let's go to the HolyLand. Dan, As I've said
before, you lived there for tenyears, you got your graduate degree from
Israeli University. You're the smartest manthat I have ever met, and I've
met a lot of people on allthings in the Holy Land. First of
all, what is the Holy Land, or you mentioned as you started this

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particular segment, it includes Egypt,Jordan, Israel. You know, there's
as many sites in Jordan as thereis an Israel, just people are unaware
of it. But it's part ofthe Holy Land itself, even though it's
divided into nations today, also Israel. We ought to mention that fairly,
We ought to say that it's alsoPalestinian authority, aies the West Bank,

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Jericho, Jericho, Bethlehem, whichis the ancient city of Shakim, where
the Samaritans are to this day.And now. One of the things is
is when people are traveling a lotof times, they're not quite sure what
there is to see in these countries, and Israel is one of those places.

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Israel and these areas of the HolyLand is one of those places that
you don't go just on your ownif you've never been there. No,
you'd miss it. You'd miss alot of things. Not that you wouldn't
still have a great experience. I'mnot saying that. But there's so much
more you could do if you havesomeone who knows the lay of the land,
where sites are. Because it's notlike say going to Rome. You

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can read in a book, youcan go see the forum, read about
the Pantheon, you can do thosethings, the coliseum and say that in
Israel, yes you can see theMount of Olives. Yes you can walk
the Old City, the Old Cityoftentimes you don't even know what you're seeing.
Yeah, a lot of times youwalk right through and miss them.
And I think one the questions thata lot of people have as well,

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then what are the most important placesto see? I think that's a personal
issue, but there are some thingsthat are very key. For instance,
I think that for those that areCatholic, particularly, there's there's the Via
della Rosa, There's the Church ofthe Sepulcher, which is considered the very
navel of the earth to them,the Harmes Sharif as we call it,

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the Temple mouthw but Caesaria Philippi orbe up north, Yeah, that's Juseen,
but that is where Peter, accordingto Catholic tradition, was named as
the first pope. That's right.And so for Catholics and things Bethlehem Church
and Nativity, things like that arevery significant to them. But I've also

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found, because I have Catholics whotravel with me and I've taken groups of
various religions over there, that theyalso want to go to a place like
the Garden tom because they necessarily believe, one way or the other that that's
an authentic site. But the visualimage of it changes their lives. A

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lot of people go to Nazareth,but never in Nazareth village where you've got,
as you mentioned earlier, a villagethat is recreated based on archaeology the
way it was two thousand years ago, the time when Christ was raised as
a young boy there as a technion, and so north south east west of
Israel, every place you go.It took me three hours one time to

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go twenty feet looking at the wallwith an archaeologist. You know, I've
been to Israel more times than Ican count. It's my privilege to I've
led tours there myself. My graduatestudies included Hebrew and Coptic, Coptic being
one of the Egyptian languages. Thebest tours are when you and I take

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it together. Yeah, absolutely thebest. And as many times as I've
been out on the Sea of Galileeand we always stop the boat, it
always affects me, Dan or itdoes me too. Another place I like
is a jude And wilderness. Youknow, we just come off the road
there and go up to see seeCociba or Saint George's monastery hanging over the

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cliffs. But we're standing actually onthe road to save you're frequented. Yeah,
I mean, it's not somewhere else. It's right there that you're sending
on. And I used to takemy sons up there because we're fifteen minute
drive in those days. Not thesedays, but in those days it's fifteen
minutes from my house, and i'dget there at four o'clock in the afternoon,

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and that's the time when the shepherdsbegin to call the sheep together four
four point thirty depends on the timeof year, but at any rate,
all these sheep are just intermixed witheach other, scattered across. And I
shouldn't say sheep, they're mostly goats. But as they're out there, suddenly
you hear the sound of a flute. It's completely quiet, and suddenly the
sound of a flute begins playing,then another flute, another, and all

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of a sudden you'll see the goatsjust separate and cheap, and they'll separate
in their benches and they form aV shape behind the shepherd and the lead
ram let. Me mention two placesin our last two minutes of this segment
that always affect me. One isup on the sea of a Galile.

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It's called primacy. Of the RockSaint John chapter twenty one, where the
Savior asks Peter, you know,lovest thou me more than these? Yes
him three times. That just doessomething to me. The other place is
actually in Jordan. We always talkabout, you know, Ahman or Jerash

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or Petra. It's Mountain Ebo.That's where Moses stood looking into the Promised
Land, knowing that he would neverget there. But Dan, every time
I go to Mountain Ebo, Ifeel something. Yeah. And there's another
two places I want to take yousometime if you go to Jordan with me.

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One is, and I just discoveredthis recently, is the place of
Elijah where he then hid out,and it's the very land that he was
born and raised in, and hehides in a cave with a stream that
still got the same name today asit did thirty five hundred years ago and

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are actually about three thousand years ago, but at any rate. And the
other place is the place where theSavior was baptized on the jordan side,
because that's the bar. Yeah,it's on the Jordanians Jordanian side. Well,
you know, so many things toconsider. You can look at all
of the Morris Columbus Holy Land tours. Those with Dan and I and the

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other guides are fantastic. We recommendany of them without reger and just simply
go to Morriscolumbus dot com, clickon Escorted Tourists and click on Holyland.
More coming on the Travel Show.You're listening to the Travel Show on Talk
Radio one oh five nine knrs.Just listen and you'll know you're listening to

(01:10:28):
the Travel Show. I'm Larry Gelwicks, the Getaway Guru, joined by Dan
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home of freestyle cruising. Now,speaking of crewe us, guys, we're
not talking about State Street. We'retalking about the Seven Seas. And there
are questions that one should ask beforebooking the cruise. Number one is the
cruise a destination or an experience cruise? Let me explain what I mean.

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A destination is my primary interest isa geographic historical destination. I want to
see the British Isles. Well,I'm not going to book the Caribbean,
you know, or an experienced cruiseis I want to have a great experience.

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I want to go to a cooldestination, a fun destination, but
just getting away and having a greatexperience. I'm going to find a great
deal. That's what some years agoKathy and I did. On our fortieth
wedding anniversary, we decided to goto a on a cruise. I got
to tell you, it was kindof weird not having a group there.
I felt this need to walk aroundthe ship and organize people. But so

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we could go to the Mexican orHawaii, the care we could go anywhere
on a cruise because US loan.It was a good destination, but our
motivation was experienced. We found anEastern Caribbean. So are you looking primarily
at a destination or experience? Secondly, is the cruise adults only meaning eighteen

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years of age of older like Virgincruises or is it family friendly? You
want to check out the pork timesand are you tying up to a pier
or a doc where you just walkoff or do you have to use the
tender boats. I personally don't carefor the tender It's a necessary evil at
times. I shouldn't call it evil, but it is. But on the

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pork times. What time am Ithere? I remember one Alaska cruise I
saw you can only have one bigcruise ship at a particular glacier at a
time they get a permit, andit had glacier viewing at six am.
That's when they got their permit.Well, why would you want to do

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something like that? You're not evenup at that time. Now you want
to know the size of the ship. Yes, size does matter when it
comes to picking your cruise ship.You have the mega ships, you have
the smaller ships. You can getinto some that have seven eight hundred people,
one thousand people or most cruise shipsare in that twenty five hundred to

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four thousand category. Although Dan,you and I were looking at the Wonder
of the Seas or the Icon ofthe Seas some time ago. The Wonder
of the Seas will hold six thousandpeople, the Icon of the Seas ten

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thousand people. Disney's having a tenthousand passenger ship come available. Now you
got to decide what you want.There's no right or wrong. The bigger
ships have more amenities, more activities, more things, more dining options.
But you also there are three footballfields in length, and so you just

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pick your personal preference. Now youwant to ask yourself about the cabin category.
And if you get an ocean view, now an inside. I used
to tell people I just to seeif they're listening. They say, now
the inside has no windows or doors, and they'll I if they just nod
their head and say, yes,I know they're not really listening. You

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do have a door, but youhave inside no windows. An ocean view
will have a a porthole on theolder ships, a pitcher window on the
newer ships. A balcony is selfexplanatory, the entire outside walls floor to
ceiling, sliding glass doors. Andthen you have the Carlino's feetus special,
the suites and penthouse. All right, that's what I have, Thank you

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very much, Augustus Meal. Butwhen you get a window or a balcony,
the question you ask is it obstructed, partially obstructed or unobstructed? You
want to settle down. And lastly, what is the target audience? Every

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good product service has a target clientele. Now they will in most cases take
just about anybody. But who arethey targeting? And so, if you
want to know the target audience ofanything in travel, a resort, a
hotel, a vacation, a cruise, look at the photos in their brochure

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and website. Who are they tryingto appeal Like, for example, you
go with Regent seven s, he'svery upscale. It's an upscale country club.
People fifty five years of age andolder. Go to Disney cruise,
You're going to see a bunch ofkids. They'll take They'll take anybody honeymoon.

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It is well. I actually Iactually had a caller once asked me
about a cruise ship recommendation for ahoneymoon. And he was in twenty three,
first marriage, all of that,and I said, and they wanted
a cruise and I said go onDisney. And he goes, well,
aren't there like thousands of kids?And I said, exactly, it'll be
the best form of birth control onyour honeymoon you could possibly have. Well,

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that brings together true, that's true. I'm sure it is true.
And he's got eight kids now Idon't know. Hey, listen, that
brings us to the end of anothershow. Thank you, so much for
joining us. We're so appreciative tohave you in our Travel Show family,
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