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September 24, 2025 • 13 mins
The boys discuss the possibility of the Connecticut Sun relocating.
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Speaker 1 (00:00):
Listen to the Rob Dibble Show on your smart device.

Speaker 2 (00:02):
Just say playing Fox Sports ninety seven nine Hartford.

Speaker 1 (00:14):
Great song.

Speaker 3 (00:16):
They changed the words, they did a new version. There
goes this Sun out of Connecticut.

Speaker 1 (00:24):
There goes this Sun. It's all right, where are they going?
Good question, Rob.

Speaker 3 (00:33):
The saga continues with the WNBA and the Connecticut Sun.

Speaker 1 (00:37):
There's a really good article on ESPN dot com.

Speaker 3 (00:39):
Dan Wetzel just wrote. It's called w NBA's gold rush
leaves Connecticut fans in the dust, and man does it
smell like the whalers.

Speaker 1 (00:50):
Purpurper purer.

Speaker 4 (00:54):
Uh.

Speaker 3 (00:54):
There's a couple of things I highlighted here, and Dan
really breaks down where we're at right now with the
sun and why the politicians of Connecticut have really gotten involved.
Big money flooding to the sport. The WNBA is trying
to pay back the sun by doing everything it can
to move the sun as far as way as possible.

Speaker 1 (01:13):
Here are the.

Speaker 3 (01:13):
Things that are happening right now that we know of.
We did here first at the Boston Celtics minority owner
Steve Puglicia Pugluca he was going to put up the
money and put up the money for the one hundred
and fifty million, one hundred and forty five million.

Speaker 1 (01:29):
Dollars practice practice facility.

Speaker 3 (01:32):
Along with the three hundred and twenty five million dollars
sale into the Mohegan Sun's pocket. The Milwaukee Bucks minority
owner Mark Larci wanted to keep the Sun in Connecticut
and split between Hartford's PBA and also have some games
at Mohegan. That is the same bid or the same

(01:54):
offer as the yet to be yet to be disclosed
financial terms that's been made by a group that includes
State of Connecticut themselves, which we've heard a lot of politicians,
and that is to have the Sun in Hartford and
in Uncasville kind of a joint thing, kind of like
Yukon already does with stores in what's now going to

(02:15):
be the People's Bank Arena. However, the WNBA must approve
a sale and has indicated that neither the minority owner
of the Bucks the minority owner of the.

Speaker 1 (02:28):
Celtics have.

Speaker 3 (02:31):
An acceptable deal from the WNBA. Instead, the league has
offered to buy the franchise for two hundred and fifty
million dollars before awarding it to one of the cities
that has already gone through the WNBA's expansion application process,
and Dan Wetzel mentions Houston as one of those possible cities.

Speaker 4 (02:56):
So you're right, it would move very far away, even
farther than Milwaukee.

Speaker 3 (02:59):
So that that's where Senator Blumenthal comes in and his
uh let.

Speaker 1 (03:04):
Does Dick have to say?

Speaker 3 (03:05):
Dick has been saying that this is not the WNBA's
call until the Mohegan Son actually sell the franchise, and
I kind of agree with that, Like, I agree that
the WNBA has to approve where this franchise is going
to go, and that if everything was equal, whether Boston

(03:26):
was offering it and Mohegan Some were like, Okay, we'll
sell it to Boston, Hartford was offering it and Mohegan
Sun was like, okay, we'll sell it to Hartford. If
that was equal, the WNBA would have to say so.
But what Dan Wetzel is saying, and what some of
the other articles that have been written about this situation
or saying, is that the WNBA wants to buy it

(03:47):
from the Mohegan Sun and then pick where they put
this franchise.

Speaker 4 (03:50):
Well, let's talk about the owners first. They're the ones
who decide all this stuff, So they're going to sit
around a table and be like, listen, we can get
four hundred million, four hundred fifty million practice facility team
wherever we put it, wherever we put it, and it's
already a good organization. You've got your team. You don't
have to do an expansion draft for this team, so

(04:12):
you're just moving this team. It's basically like the Montreal
Expos going to the Nationals and going to Washington, DC.
There wasn't a lot of finagling. It was just really
giving the Baltimore Orioles part of Masson at the time
to sweeten that within was it fifty miles. You can't
have two franchises within anyway. That's MLB's rules. But the
WNBA they have the final say on this ownership wise,

(04:34):
where they're like, listen, we're going to buy the franchise
then resell the franchise. So that's why they're saying right now,
the Boston guy, the Milwaukee guy, they haven't given us
a sweet enough offer. And maybe it's collateral, maybe it's
maybe it's how much they have actually assets. Because I'll
give you an example, like with McCourt and the Dodgers,
McCourt wanted to buy the Red sox first didn't have

(04:56):
enough money, didn't have enough money, didn't have enough investors.

Speaker 1 (04:59):
They said no.

Speaker 4 (05:00):
Then because Fox was trying to get out of the Dodgers,
he walked in there and bottom for like four hundred million,
ended up selling him for two billion dollars.

Speaker 1 (05:08):
Right, So that's what we're talking about.

Speaker 4 (05:09):
So whatever the w NBA does this is to make
more money.

Speaker 1 (05:13):
For sure them, for sure them.

Speaker 3 (05:15):
But gosh and Wetswell makes a great point too. When
mohegan bought them this league ten ten ten ten million,
But this league needed someone to invest in it. They
were losing franchise cities all over the place.

Speaker 1 (05:32):
The Houston Comments for instance, one of the original ms.

Speaker 3 (05:35):
Now, so they got the franchise from the Orlando defunct
franchise mohegan Son.

Speaker 1 (05:41):
That is, you know, think of Uncasville. We know Uncasville.

Speaker 3 (05:45):
If it's mohegan Son's not there, I'm sorry. So it
was like a roll of the dice pun intended for
the WNBA to put it there. But there's that casino man,
and it has been a winner as far as attended goes,
as far as the WNBA is concerned, mohegan Son's a
different story again and It's like I said last week,

(06:06):
mohegan Son is the one selling here. Yeah, mohegan Son
doesn't have to sell. You know, they could get they
could pull it back if they could make it. If
they can make five hundred million, they'll pull it back.

Speaker 1 (06:18):
But they're selling here.

Speaker 3 (06:19):
And that's the thing is they could make three hundred
and fifty million with these other guys, but the WNBA
is basically undercutting them one hundred million dollars and wanting
to place it where they place it.

Speaker 1 (06:32):
I'm not cool with that, man.

Speaker 2 (06:33):
I mean, basically, what it amounts to, in my mind,
is what it should be to be a restricted free agent.
You know, if you're a restricted free agent in any sport,
the team that you are currently with can match. And
so we know that there's a lot of sneaky things
happening where another team will come in and offer maybe
an amount that's more than you should get.

Speaker 1 (06:54):
But that's what's happening here, right And this happened in
MLB though.

Speaker 4 (06:57):
I remember when the Giants wanted to move from San
Francisco to Tampa. They were threatening to do that and
at the time they said, no, you have to stay
in San Francisco and take less money when they went
to sell the team and they did, it was like
fifty million less to keep it in San Francisco.

Speaker 1 (07:13):
So I do feel.

Speaker 4 (07:16):
These owners are going to play this the way the
owners want to play this. They're they're gonna they're gonna
make this Boston guy or the Milwaukee guy come up
with more money or even the state of Connecticut to
keep it here. And that's gonna be the final play.
That's why they're saying, no, we'll buy it. Then you
buy it from us, or we're going to move it
to Houston.

Speaker 3 (07:36):
Is this a Robert Kraft kind of hundred book what
he did to Hartford with Fox?

Speaker 1 (07:43):
This is how you negotiate.

Speaker 4 (07:44):
You you make everybody think said, oh my god, we're
not going to get it, and then they have to
throw up some more money to get it.

Speaker 3 (07:52):
What's really weird is I got an email yesterday to
renew my Connecticut Sun season tickets at the mohente Is, Like,
do they not know.

Speaker 2 (08:06):
They scheduled this email six months ago?

Speaker 1 (08:09):
We forgot to still selling tickets for next year.

Speaker 3 (08:13):
And that's the other thing too, Like every time I
was in Mohegan, I was taking pictures for you of
Dowanna Bonner and Alyssa Thomas's face being.

Speaker 1 (08:21):
On the wall on the wall for months after they
were off the We did many shows against that wall
at Mohegue.

Speaker 3 (08:28):
Right months they were not even on the squad. And
this year was such a dud. It felt like got
so many things feel like Major League Baseball, like the
movie Major League Baseball this year for some reason, and
Kanne get Sun feel like one as well, like you
were trying to trash the franchise and that way we
can sell it and make this.

Speaker 1 (08:45):
Place to park.

Speaker 4 (08:46):
It's also like slap shot where Paul Newman is basically
lying and saying that there's an investment bunch of investment
people in Florida, a bunch of retirees that want to
buy the franchise and stuff, and that was never going
to happen, and so that the team all of a
sudden starts selling out and it actually does become a
wanted franchise. I feel like that's what's happening here with

(09:08):
the Sun because they gutted the team, their their coach
went to Indianapolis to be with the Indiana Fever. Yeah
you know, I mean this is'll be playing tonight. Yeah,
be in the playoffs tonight.

Speaker 1 (09:19):
Well.

Speaker 3 (09:19):
The other thing too, is I you don't have to
tell me. I just see John Quell Jones leaving. I
see a list of leaving. I see some of our
franchise players that sell a lot of jerseys left.

Speaker 1 (09:32):
Yeah, they're all gone to Bonnor.

Speaker 3 (09:34):
That tells me a lot of these players don't want
to play here. I heard rumblings of Marina Maybrey after
they picked her up after listen, do wanta left?

Speaker 1 (09:43):
She wanted to leave too. I've heard it.

Speaker 3 (09:45):
I don't need the Connecticut Sun to tell me one
way or another, because I've seen the players leave. I
have not seen in the free agents clamor to be
in Uncasville.

Speaker 1 (09:54):
I've also heard and this was like.

Speaker 4 (09:56):
Well, we've also seen when they kicked them out of
practice exact because they got a concert exactly. You know,
you've got a concert tonight, and so you're like, no,
you guys can't use the facilities, And can you imagine
as an athlete you have like nowhere to go practice
and then you know what, you have a game tomorrow
night and you and you're gonna play. So and I
don't think a lot of this has to do with
it doesn't feel like you're home.

Speaker 3 (10:18):
And that story too, tells me Mohegan's son isn't really
keen about having the team either.

Speaker 1 (10:23):
They're not making them any money.

Speaker 3 (10:25):
So like the players are kind of one foot out
the door, mohegan Son is one foot out the door.
They've had two games in TD Garden, both sellouts, both
eighteen thousands, both eighteen thousand. Like the writing is on
the wall here as far as this team is not
going to be in Connecticut. And I just, and I

(10:47):
don't know why I'm upset with the WNBA messing with
mohegan Sons money because I still think mohegan Son's.

Speaker 1 (10:54):
The bad guy.

Speaker 3 (10:54):
If there's a bad guy here, there's still the ownership
group that wants to sell the team in the end,
and no matter what we dress around it, there's still
the ownership group that wants to get rid of the team.

Speaker 2 (11:08):
I just I keep going back to the thought of
the Connecticut Son being part of the holdover for the
early days of the WNBA, and yeah, thinking about what
would this look like if obviously mohegan Son was a
great landing spot twenty years ago for this, but what

(11:29):
if they had decided the WNBA had decided to along
the same lines, think well, why don't we PLoP down
a WNBA team in Knoxville and Columbia, South Carolina and
piggyback on the popularity of women's basketball in these other markets.
I thought that was happening, and I just wondered, and
that makes sense for a league in its infancy, and
I just would have been interested to see how along

(11:52):
the way some of these other smaller markets would have
also navigated this, perhaps earlier than the Mohegan Sun, but
this is a rather.

Speaker 1 (11:59):
Unique case study.

Speaker 2 (12:00):
Right as Yukon women's basketball wins another national championship and
the rest of the country catches up on the fact that,
oh yeah, women's basketball is an amazing product to watch
as well, something that this market has always.

Speaker 4 (12:14):
I think for these senators and for Connecticut, it's an
embarrassment if you keep saying you're the the capital of
the world in basketball and you can't even keep a
pro franchise that's true in their State's some science, right,
So I think that you know, that's why they're fighting
so hard to keep it here, so that they could say, hey, listen,
we've still got the sun.

Speaker 1 (12:34):
We've got Yukon.

Speaker 4 (12:36):
You people want to come, yeah, or still want to
be here, the capital of the world when it comes
to hoops.

Speaker 3 (12:41):
Yeah, I mean, well, we will see how it all
shakes out in the end. But another important element or
another important fact on this deal, this sale two fifty
or three fifty will be.

Speaker 1 (12:52):
The biggest sale in WNBA history.

Speaker 3 (12:55):
So like, it's not like the sun are getting out
of a pro that's depreciating.

Speaker 4 (13:02):
They're so you're gonna make a four hundred percent return
on your investment.

Speaker 1 (13:06):
Yeah, And they would.

Speaker 3 (13:08):
Still though if they wait and they sell it in
five years, sell it in ten years, selt in twenty years.

Speaker 1 (13:13):
I don't know.

Speaker 3 (13:14):
It's it's such a fascinating thing because I see, like
I wish I could talk to the powers that be
at Mohegan and try to say, man, there's a lot
of pros here. There's some cons, but there's a lot
of pros here. But I don't think they're gonna listen.

Speaker 2 (13:26):
You want you want Lucy pulling back the football? Yeah,
that would be your little flying the ointment. All right,
we're not selling the fans. The fans are Charlie Brown.
But I don't want to beat Charlie Brown. I've been
trying not to beat Charlie Brown.

Speaker 3 (13:39):
That's when I started the show and I teased that
we're going to talk about this. I said it with
my fingers crossed, my eyes closed, because I know this
is the whale.

Speaker 1 (13:47):
This is the whale all over again.
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