October 30, 2025 • 18 mins
Dan Dakich joins the show to talk IU basketball and football!
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Speaker 1 (00:06):
I got the Robbins Show and Ben Dardell and you're
having to drive joining us now on the hot line,
Dan Dokach obviously he played college basketball, that he coached
college basketball. Now he talks about college basketball and also
does a show on OutKick. Don't at Me? Is that
the name of it?
Speaker 2 (00:26):
Bro? Yeah, don't at me? Bro?
Speaker 1 (00:31):
Did you know before the season that Indiana football would
be this good?
Speaker 2 (00:36):
I bet him over eight and a half. I definitely
did that for too much money, dibsomatic.
Speaker 3 (00:42):
But this could where they're beating.
Speaker 2 (00:44):
The crap out of everybody. I don't know that anybody
saw two fifty point wins in the Big Ten, including
one over number nine at the time, Illinois, and a
quarterback that, according to the you know, DraftKings betting markets,
is the favorite. I don't. I think we knew that
this wasn't going to be a one year you know
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thing with Signetti. I think we all felt that. But divs,
I think I've told you this before. I was in
Indiana for seventeen years. I was there from nineteen eighty one.
First game was Marcus Allen came in and I went
to every football game, every single one, whether it was
you know, if I was in town and they stunk forever.
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So guys my age, it's it's hard for guys my age,
and I'm on group text with former guys I played
with and friends, and it's hard for us to not
think that Indiana is going to blow every freaking game.
Man suck in the end. So we don't know how
to act, but we're kind of digging it. I mean, no,
I didn't see them beating teams this bad, but we
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thought they'd be good. Sure. Absolutely.
Speaker 4 (01:52):
How much Bob Knight does AU football head coach Kirk
Signetti have in him?
Speaker 2 (01:58):
You know, it's funny he gives off that vibe, doesn't
he like? I don't care. I think early when I
was first at Indiana and when I was first an assistant,
a lot single focus. You know, Don Fisher's a long
time radio voice fifty years and he and I are friends,
and he told me this most focused guy I've seen
(02:19):
since coach Night in the seventies. Now, late Bobknight, he
was he wasn't going to recruit, he was gonna go hunting.
He liked being Bob Knight. But early Bob Knight, no
doubt a little bit stand off is with the media, brash, tough,
very good at evaluating talent, that kind of thing, so
very much.
Speaker 3 (02:38):
But early late Bob Knight guys at.
Speaker 2 (02:41):
Worked for which I did, and then he was kind
of distant from being the Bob Knight that he was.
But no question, you know, when I played for him
or when I coached initially up through the mid nineties,
same kind of guy, no question.
Speaker 1 (02:57):
Dan Dockett shows on Sports Ticket fourteen thirty eight out
of Indianapolis, talk about the extension that the coach got,
and I think there's been eight firings so far this year.
I mean, not not easy even if you get an
extension to keep your job. You know, kudos to him
for getting such a nice extension what everybody else is
(03:19):
getting whacked.
Speaker 2 (03:20):
Yeah, you know last year, DIBs he got he got
offered through back channels of Florida job and well that's
all that's not true. They wanted to know if they
should offer him the Florida job and through his agent,
and he turned it down immediately, didn't didn't even consider it. Now,
thing about that you're staying in Indiana, Indiana over there.
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As for those who go on the floor, Yeah, right,
and you are a competitive guy. The a d there.
Scott Dolson was a manager on the basketball team. He
came in my senior year. He was a freshman and
he was He's actually the only athletic director to be
a package deal with a player. Del Ray Brooks was
the number one player in America and he was from
Michigan City, Indiana, and Night recruited del Ray, and Delray
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came to play. Eventually transferred to Providence, but Delray said, hey,
can my buddy, Scott Dolson be to be a manager,
and so they came as a package deal, which is
really kind of funny to me. And Scotty stayed there
the whole time. He stayed in the varsity club, worked
his way up, and he's a really smart guy and
he understands what I just said that Indiana fans know,
(04:25):
you know, the football program has stumped, and.
Speaker 3 (04:28):
As you guys know, everybody knows, and you.
Speaker 2 (04:30):
Kind of get there eventually. You know, you got to
have good football. Basketball is great, but you know there's
sixty thousand in Indiana, sixty thousand seats as opposed to
seventeen thousand seats in Assembly all and you're always going
to get assembly hall crowd. So Scotty understood that. He
understands college athletics. He's been a fan of, you know,
different teams, all that kind of stuff. So he just said,
(04:51):
screw it, here's our deal. We got the money, let's
go and Signetti. Truthfully, Signetti has probably already made his contract.
I know people are talking about that now with Otani,
but Signetti is probably because now they have seat licenses
in Indiana. And Guys, when I tell you this, this
is true. Indiana was pretty good. In fact, Anthony Thompson
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in the early nineties, second in the Heisman, they were
pretty good. They had a chance to win the Big
Ten one year, lost to Michigan State. And I was
in the meeting. It was me and myself, coach Knight,
Clarence Donninger the ad and we're just talking after practice
one day and night asked Clarence Donninger the ad how
many fully paid, fully paid tickets and people come per game?
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And he said, you know what, it's about eighteen thousand
and that's it. And that didn't get any better over
the years. And so now you're talking about sold out,
you're talking about and I'm being literal here there's a
convenien Mark across street, Dave's Convenient Mark, which had the
best BLTs in the history of the world. And you'd
buy something and they'd give you an Indiana football ticket
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literal here like, hey, man, come in and buy two cokes.
You know, we'll give you a two second away. You done?
Speaker 1 (06:05):
Yep, that's awesome.
Speaker 2 (06:09):
Right. Well, now Signetti's got it sold out, you know jerseys,
you know it's crazy. So he's already paid for it.
Speaker 3 (06:16):
So it's a good move in Indiana?
Speaker 2 (06:18):
Is really really good? Really good?
Speaker 4 (06:20):
How much does the college football playoff and with the
teams and knowing what your lost record should be is
affecting all these firings and maybe we'll see more of it.
Speaker 2 (06:31):
I think two things. I think Signetti's success is hurt. Guys.
What are you talking about. You can't beat it UCLA
and you're at Penn State in your tenth year and
Kurt Signette's beating all these teams in his second year.
He's doing you know. And I do think the college playoffs.
Speaker 3 (06:45):
This is why urban Meyer told me.
Speaker 2 (06:46):
This years ago. He goes the reason college coaches do
not want a college playoff, and they were the guys
that really fought. It is because we got thirty thirty
five bowls and if you get to a ball, you
know we've camouflaged. This is a great achievement. And if
you win a bowl, then everybody has momentum going into
the offseason. And that's why college coaches never won it
(07:08):
because you know, I went to Bowling Green. We won
more over a five year period than they had won
in fifty years. Now when people want to criticize me,
well you never went to the NC DOUBLEA tournament, you're right.
We were on the bubble three times, lost in the
MAC championship game, didn't quite but that's all people want
to say. Don't worry about whether you won the MAC
for the first time. So that's what's coming into college football. Yeah, great,
(07:28):
you won the Big Ten, But did you get into
college football playoff? Did you know, James Franklin, did you
win a game? Yeah, you won a game, but who'd
you beat? You beat? You know? So now it's become
like NC DOUBLEA basketball, which unfortunately is probably you know,
a one month sport. Now, college football to coaches, not
to us as fans, because every week is great, right,
but the resume is, well, you know what you're whare
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And you didn't get to the college football playoffs, Well
I'm not that's not success. I don't care if you
went nine and three or you went ten and three, whatever,
you didn't get to college football playoffs or you didn't
get to the final four, screw you. So yeah, that's
a big deal, man, that's a big old deal.
Speaker 1 (08:07):
All right, more than Indiana football. Indianapolis Colts are seven
and one. Oh yeah, you're using the giants garbage quarterback
Daniel Jones. How how in the world are the Colts?
I mean, first of all, I've heard they want to
give him an extension. But how are they doing this?
How are the Colts doing it this year?
Speaker 2 (08:28):
I first off, DIBs, I don't know if I told
you this on my show, but I have a fifty
dollars bet to win thirty two thousand, five and forty
dollars that Fernando Mendoza would be the Heisman Trophy winner
and Daniel Jones would be the NFL's MVP. And that
bad boy ain't looking too bad at Halloween, big boy,
that thing he's looking all right right now?
Speaker 1 (08:49):
That's great.
Speaker 2 (08:51):
Colts have a Colts I think that's an indictment of
the Giants, Like I think that, Yeah, the Colts have
a good roster. It basically though, and this is why
Jones is the MVP, not Jonathan Taylor. And I'm not
taking anything away from Jonathan Taylor, but Colts have had
Jonathan Taylor and he's been great, Like he's had eighteen
hundred yard rushing years, but the Colts for nine years
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have been mired in crap, you know, eight and nine,
nine and nine, and all of a sudden, here comes
this guy who's apparently better than what the giants, but
he showed with the Giants even in his best year.
You know, he's got weapons. I don't know if they're
the greatest. Weapons are the same weapons that they've had.
Tyler Warren from Penn State, the tight endst terrific. He
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has a big deal. But I would say it's more
of an indictment of the Giants, like this dude, because
of this beat.
Speaker 3 (09:42):
Guys, I've paid attention to every throuble.
Speaker 2 (09:46):
Like, wait a second, this bet could actually happen. Hold on,
And if you really watch Daniel Jones, man, he runs,
he throws the ball away when he has to. He
doesn't turn it over. He I'm sitting there going, oh,
Stiking is an offensive guy, so is Dabel. Well why
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didn't this work over there? Maybe he's matured. You know.
Some people are saying he learned how to prepare from
Kevin O'Connell. Well why didn't he learn from Brian dabol
Why didn't he learn what the giants? What the hell
were they doing? So I look, the system everybody tells
me fits Stiking. You know it fits. He learned. He
grew up. But honest to god, you know, I know
(10:28):
you guys are you know right there? I'd say, giants,
what the hell have you been doing? Like? You know,
I would look at him as much. Now, look, granted,
he's got a running back, he's got a tight end,
and he's got you know, good receiver. I don't if
they're great, but good receiver. So he's got some weapons.
But damn, maybe he's grown up. But I don't know, giants,
(10:50):
what the hell what are you doing?
Speaker 4 (10:52):
I'm a fan of the daughters Carly, Casey and Karen.
How is Indianapolis taking Carly on the sidelines with the
head set?
Speaker 2 (11:01):
All right? You know this? You know, winning assaults everything? Right?
Speaker 3 (11:05):
If they're losing it, be like, what the hell is
she doing?
Speaker 2 (11:07):
Get that woman off, you know that kind of thing.
She's been doing this for twelve years, right, this isn't like,
you know, people are now paying attention because but here's
what she did. Here's the something that people don't know.
When she got the job and her dad died and
she's of the three daughters, she's managing the football team.
She fired two people. One was a guy named Jeffrey Gorman.
(11:30):
Jeffrey Gorman met her say and rehab, and Jeffrey Gorman
has been ersays somewhat enabler. He didn't see her say
without Jeffrey Gorman. Jeffrey Gorman was a guy that was
they put him on the pregame show. He's a talker.
I always thought he was a con artist. And she
her first thing she did after her daddy was fired
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Jeffrey Gorman, and she fired a guy named Morocco Brown.
Morocco Brown was an assistant general manager with a big mouth,
and Morocco Brown was behind a lot of the stupid
decisions and ultimately Chris Ballard made them, but Morocco Brown
was like it's hard to describe. She immediately fired these
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two people who have been presents around the building. In
Gorman's case, you know, twenty years. In Morocco Brown's case,
eight nine years. She just said, screw you. I know
who you are, I know what you're a You're gone.
And she neutered Chris Ballard, the GM. She and I
have had guys with the colts, said, don't want me
to say their names. Tell me she was. She just said, no,
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you have done a terrible job. You're either going to
get with what we're trying to do here or you're
going to get gone. And she put her trust in
coach and his coaching staff, and that comes from being
on the sideline listening to conversations. She realized that Stichen
and his coaches knew what the hell they were doing.
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The general manager not necessarily the same level. So she's
put her faith in stich It and stiking pretty good,
you know. And so she's really new to the general manager.
She got rid of these guys, one of which was
a general manager's guy, Morocco Brown. And I got to
tell you, man, it's kind of cool because she's a
serious person. No bs, and you know this. You guys
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know this. You come into an organization. You're a woman, right,
People are gonna doubt all that kind of stuff. But
it's always easy to lighten up. It is very difficult
to toughen up. And she came in guns blazing, man.
She got rid of these two people and everybody in
that organ I got two really good sources in there.
They tell me a this, this, this woke everybody's ass up,
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out of complacency or out of thinking that they've got
their job, you know, emeritus. That kind of thing is
pretty good. So she's got a lot of respect around here.
Speaker 1 (13:48):
All right, World series is too too. Who do you
got in the next couple of games?
Speaker 2 (13:54):
I'm gonna ask you, but I gotta tell you, man,
there's something I don't know. Man, there's some about this
Toronto team. I'm kind of digging or a trou Tony's
the best player in the history of the world. I
get it. But hey, you know what I got. I
hope every game goes extra innings. I hope they keep
making plays. But I'm not betting against the freaking uh
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Blue Jays. I don't know why I don't, So I'll
ask you who you got after four games? Who you
guys got?
Speaker 1 (14:21):
I gotta go with my partner, you know, Ben, Ben
loves Vladdie Jr. George Springer's Yukon grad you know, hope, yeah,
he gets back in the next couple of games. But
you know, I like the underdog. I won on an underdog.
We beat the Mighty A's. I mean, I'm hoping the
Blue Jays take out the Dodgers. I hate the Dodgers, Gibbs.
Speaker 2 (14:42):
My favorite player non Cubs Division, uh, was Bernie Williams.
And I don't know why. Bernie Williams, the centerfielder for
the Yankees, was so cool, so smooth, you know. And
my favorite player going back was George Springer. Ye. I
don't know why.
Speaker 3 (14:57):
George Springer when he was with Houston.
Speaker 2 (14:59):
I'm just like, man, that dude is so cool. That
dude is so clunched, and then he bangs out the
home run, you know, and oh yeah, I don't know him.
I never met him. I didn't know he's a Yukon grat,
but I'll root for any team. I just think he's cool.
I just think he and Bernie Williams are like, yeah,
they're just cool. Man. I like him, so I'm rooting
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for them. But I love the bab man the throws.
How about the throws and the tags? Great, holy com man,
it's awesome. I got to get my wife's cussing the drivers.
My wife's cussing the drivers as we're driving down the street.
She's she you know, was it Syracuse for ten years?
She's Northeastern.
Speaker 3 (15:35):
How about you move.
Speaker 2 (15:36):
Over, dumbass. She just yelled at somebody. I'm taking it, man. Yeah,
let's go. Yeah, let's go in Indy.
Speaker 4 (15:43):
Now that you're fired up, I got to get a
hoops question in there about those IU hoosiers, and I
wanted to know you specifically, what you think of this
father son combo that's happening at IU this year with
Darien Debrize taking over his head coach and his son
Tucker Debris being one of the main players.
Speaker 3 (16:00):
Well, beat the hell out of the Bob Knight, Pat Knight,
because that night worst player ever. That's the first time
I use that line.
Speaker 2 (16:11):
I like it. No one's asked me.
Speaker 3 (16:13):
Uh, the kid is really good.
Speaker 2 (16:16):
Tucker is really good. Like I saw him my son's
coach in Illinois State there in the same league. That
kid's and you know what, he's good. He's good. Late
you know what I mean by that, Like he ain't
no three o'clock hitter in the games at seven man,
he's yeah, yeah, yeah, And they're in the same league.
And that dude he lifts up and you know, you
want the ball in his hands. And you know what
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is a good really good coach. I've known him as
his assistant was one of mine. We sent him over
to work for an actual good coach after being with me,
so he I like what he's done here. I don't
know that they're going to be talented enough Indiana, but
I think that you know, Tucker and his dad, Tucker's legit.
You got to be the best player or the worst
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player if.
Speaker 3 (16:59):
You're going to be the coach son, you know, and
that Night was the worst player. You know you do
you can't, you know? Night Kid was by far the worst.
Speaker 2 (17:08):
No, if you're in between, then people bitch because he's
just playing because he's his dad. It's a pain in
the ass. But Night's kid was the worst player ever
to play in Indiana.
Speaker 3 (17:18):
But his dad treated him like.
Speaker 2 (17:20):
A regular player, and that was the real problem. But Tucker,
if he's not the best, he's one a And by
the way I saw it, yesterday and I love it.
My boy Danny Hurley is already in mid season form,
ripping ass on the sideline. Man. He uh, he never disappoints.
But I like where Indiana's that. I think Indiana is
gonna get really good. They got a bunch of money.
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Two billionaires, Mark Cuban and a guy named Todd Wagner
are funding it. They're gonna be good, so.
Speaker 3 (17:47):
You know, but they ain't catching Yukon, not this year.
Speaker 2 (17:51):
I hope that Mullen's kid gets back because he's pretty good. Man.
He's really good kid from Indiana.
Speaker 1 (17:56):
Docats, you're the best. Thank you so much. Call me anytime, brother.
Speaker 2 (18:00):
I always have fun with you. Guys anytime. Man, let's
do it again. Thanks guys, see it all right,
I got the Robbins Show and Ben Dardell and you're
having to drive joining us now on the hot line,
Dan Dokach obviously he played college basketball, that he coached
college basketball. Now he talks about college basketball and also
does a show on OutKick. Don't at Me? Is that
the name of it?
Speaker 2 (00:26):
Bro? Yeah, don't at me? Bro?
Speaker 1 (00:31):
Did you know before the season that Indiana football would
be this good?
Speaker 2 (00:36):
I bet him over eight and a half. I definitely
did that for too much money, dibsomatic.
Speaker 3 (00:42):
But this could where they're beating.
Speaker 2 (00:44):
The crap out of everybody. I don't know that anybody
saw two fifty point wins in the Big Ten, including
one over number nine at the time, Illinois, and a
quarterback that, according to the you know, DraftKings betting markets,
is the favorite. I don't. I think we knew that
this wasn't going to be a one year you know
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thing with Signetti. I think we all felt that. But divs,
I think I've told you this before. I was in
Indiana for seventeen years. I was there from nineteen eighty one.
First game was Marcus Allen came in and I went
to every football game, every single one, whether it was
you know, if I was in town and they stunk forever.
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So guys my age, it's it's hard for guys my age,
and I'm on group text with former guys I played
with and friends, and it's hard for us to not
think that Indiana is going to blow every freaking game.
Man suck in the end. So we don't know how
to act, but we're kind of digging it. I mean, no,
I didn't see them beating teams this bad, but we
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thought they'd be good. Sure. Absolutely.
Speaker 4 (01:52):
How much Bob Knight does AU football head coach Kirk
Signetti have in him?
Speaker 2 (01:58):
You know, it's funny he gives off that vibe, doesn't
he like? I don't care. I think early when I
was first at Indiana and when I was first an assistant,
a lot single focus. You know, Don Fisher's a long
time radio voice fifty years and he and I are friends,
and he told me this most focused guy I've seen
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since coach Night in the seventies. Now, late Bobknight, he
was he wasn't going to recruit, he was gonna go hunting.
He liked being Bob Knight. But early Bob Knight, no
doubt a little bit stand off is with the media, brash, tough,
very good at evaluating talent, that kind of thing, so
very much.
Speaker 3 (02:38):
But early late Bob Knight guys at.
Speaker 2 (02:41):
Worked for which I did, and then he was kind
of distant from being the Bob Knight that he was.
But no question, you know, when I played for him
or when I coached initially up through the mid nineties,
same kind of guy, no question.
Speaker 1 (02:57):
Dan Dockett shows on Sports Ticket fourteen thirty eight out
of Indianapolis, talk about the extension that the coach got,
and I think there's been eight firings so far this year.
I mean, not not easy even if you get an
extension to keep your job. You know, kudos to him
for getting such a nice extension what everybody else is
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getting whacked.
Speaker 2 (03:20):
Yeah, you know last year, DIBs he got he got
offered through back channels of Florida job and well that's
all that's not true. They wanted to know if they
should offer him the Florida job and through his agent,
and he turned it down immediately, didn't didn't even consider it. Now,
thing about that you're staying in Indiana, Indiana over there.
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As for those who go on the floor, Yeah, right,
and you are a competitive guy. The a d there.
Scott Dolson was a manager on the basketball team. He
came in my senior year. He was a freshman and
he was He's actually the only athletic director to be
a package deal with a player. Del Ray Brooks was
the number one player in America and he was from
Michigan City, Indiana, and Night recruited del Ray, and Delray
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came to play. Eventually transferred to Providence, but Delray said, hey,
can my buddy, Scott Dolson be to be a manager,
and so they came as a package deal, which is
really kind of funny to me. And Scotty stayed there
the whole time. He stayed in the varsity club, worked
his way up, and he's a really smart guy and
he understands what I just said that Indiana fans know,
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you know, the football program has stumped, and.
Speaker 3 (04:28):
As you guys know, everybody knows, and you.
Speaker 2 (04:30):
Kind of get there eventually. You know, you got to
have good football. Basketball is great, but you know there's
sixty thousand in Indiana, sixty thousand seats as opposed to
seventeen thousand seats in Assembly all and you're always going
to get assembly hall crowd. So Scotty understood that. He
understands college athletics. He's been a fan of, you know,
different teams, all that kind of stuff. So he just said,
(04:51):
screw it, here's our deal. We got the money, let's
go and Signetti. Truthfully, Signetti has probably already made his contract.
I know people are talking about that now with Otani,
but Signetti is probably because now they have seat licenses
in Indiana. And Guys, when I tell you this, this
is true. Indiana was pretty good. In fact, Anthony Thompson
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in the early nineties, second in the Heisman, they were
pretty good. They had a chance to win the Big
Ten one year, lost to Michigan State. And I was
in the meeting. It was me and myself, coach Knight,
Clarence Donninger the ad and we're just talking after practice
one day and night asked Clarence Donninger the ad how
many fully paid, fully paid tickets and people come per game?
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And he said, you know what, it's about eighteen thousand
and that's it. And that didn't get any better over
the years. And so now you're talking about sold out,
you're talking about and I'm being literal here there's a
convenien Mark across street, Dave's Convenient Mark, which had the
best BLTs in the history of the world. And you'd
buy something and they'd give you an Indiana football ticket
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literal here like, hey, man, come in and buy two cokes.
You know, we'll give you a two second away. You done?
Speaker 1 (06:05):
Yep, that's awesome.
Speaker 2 (06:09):
Right. Well, now Signetti's got it sold out, you know jerseys,
you know it's crazy. So he's already paid for it.
Speaker 3 (06:16):
So it's a good move in Indiana?
Speaker 2 (06:18):
Is really really good? Really good?
Speaker 4 (06:20):
How much does the college football playoff and with the
teams and knowing what your lost record should be is
affecting all these firings and maybe we'll see more of it.
Speaker 2 (06:31):
I think two things. I think Signetti's success is hurt. Guys.
What are you talking about. You can't beat it UCLA
and you're at Penn State in your tenth year and
Kurt Signette's beating all these teams in his second year.
He's doing you know. And I do think the college playoffs.
Speaker 3 (06:45):
This is why urban Meyer told me.
Speaker 2 (06:46):
This years ago. He goes the reason college coaches do
not want a college playoff, and they were the guys
that really fought. It is because we got thirty thirty
five bowls and if you get to a ball, you
know we've camouflaged. This is a great achievement. And if
you win a bowl, then everybody has momentum going into
the offseason. And that's why college coaches never won it
(07:08):
because you know, I went to Bowling Green. We won
more over a five year period than they had won
in fifty years. Now when people want to criticize me,
well you never went to the NC DOUBLEA tournament, you're right.
We were on the bubble three times, lost in the
MAC championship game, didn't quite but that's all people want
to say. Don't worry about whether you won the MAC
for the first time. So that's what's coming into college football. Yeah, great,
(07:28):
you won the Big Ten, But did you get into
college football playoff? Did you know, James Franklin, did you
win a game? Yeah, you won a game, but who'd
you beat? You beat? You know? So now it's become
like NC DOUBLEA basketball, which unfortunately is probably you know,
a one month sport. Now, college football to coaches, not
to us as fans, because every week is great, right,
but the resume is, well, you know what you're whare
(07:52):
And you didn't get to the college football playoffs, Well
I'm not that's not success. I don't care if you
went nine and three or you went ten and three, whatever,
you didn't get to college football playoffs or you didn't
get to the final four, screw you. So yeah, that's
a big deal, man, that's a big old deal.
Speaker 1 (08:07):
All right, more than Indiana football. Indianapolis Colts are seven
and one. Oh yeah, you're using the giants garbage quarterback
Daniel Jones. How how in the world are the Colts?
I mean, first of all, I've heard they want to
give him an extension. But how are they doing this?
How are the Colts doing it this year?
Speaker 2 (08:28):
I first off, DIBs, I don't know if I told
you this on my show, but I have a fifty
dollars bet to win thirty two thousand, five and forty
dollars that Fernando Mendoza would be the Heisman Trophy winner
and Daniel Jones would be the NFL's MVP. And that
bad boy ain't looking too bad at Halloween, big boy,
that thing he's looking all right right now?
Speaker 1 (08:49):
That's great.
Speaker 2 (08:51):
Colts have a Colts I think that's an indictment of
the Giants, Like I think that, Yeah, the Colts have
a good roster. It basically though, and this is why
Jones is the MVP, not Jonathan Taylor. And I'm not
taking anything away from Jonathan Taylor, but Colts have had
Jonathan Taylor and he's been great, Like he's had eighteen
hundred yard rushing years, but the Colts for nine years
(09:14):
have been mired in crap, you know, eight and nine,
nine and nine, and all of a sudden, here comes
this guy who's apparently better than what the giants, but
he showed with the Giants even in his best year.
You know, he's got weapons. I don't know if they're
the greatest. Weapons are the same weapons that they've had.
Tyler Warren from Penn State, the tight endst terrific. He
(09:34):
has a big deal. But I would say it's more
of an indictment of the Giants, like this dude, because
of this beat.
Speaker 3 (09:42):
Guys, I've paid attention to every throuble.
Speaker 2 (09:46):
Like, wait a second, this bet could actually happen. Hold on,
And if you really watch Daniel Jones, man, he runs,
he throws the ball away when he has to. He
doesn't turn it over. He I'm sitting there going, oh,
Stiking is an offensive guy, so is Dabel. Well why
(10:06):
didn't this work over there? Maybe he's matured. You know.
Some people are saying he learned how to prepare from
Kevin O'Connell. Well why didn't he learn from Brian dabol
Why didn't he learn what the giants? What the hell
were they doing? So I look, the system everybody tells
me fits Stiking. You know it fits. He learned. He
grew up. But honest to god, you know, I know
(10:28):
you guys are you know right there? I'd say, giants,
what the hell have you been doing? Like? You know,
I would look at him as much. Now, look, granted,
he's got a running back, he's got a tight end,
and he's got you know, good receiver. I don't if
they're great, but good receiver. So he's got some weapons.
But damn, maybe he's grown up. But I don't know, giants,
(10:50):
what the hell what are you doing?
Speaker 4 (10:52):
I'm a fan of the daughters Carly, Casey and Karen.
How is Indianapolis taking Carly on the sidelines with the
head set?
Speaker 2 (11:01):
All right? You know this? You know, winning assaults everything? Right?
Speaker 3 (11:05):
If they're losing it, be like, what the hell is
she doing?
Speaker 2 (11:07):
Get that woman off, you know that kind of thing.
She's been doing this for twelve years, right, this isn't like,
you know, people are now paying attention because but here's
what she did. Here's the something that people don't know.
When she got the job and her dad died and
she's of the three daughters, she's managing the football team.
She fired two people. One was a guy named Jeffrey Gorman.
(11:30):
Jeffrey Gorman met her say and rehab, and Jeffrey Gorman
has been ersays somewhat enabler. He didn't see her say
without Jeffrey Gorman. Jeffrey Gorman was a guy that was
they put him on the pregame show. He's a talker.
I always thought he was a con artist. And she
her first thing she did after her daddy was fired
(11:51):
Jeffrey Gorman, and she fired a guy named Morocco Brown.
Morocco Brown was an assistant general manager with a big mouth,
and Morocco Brown was behind a lot of the stupid
decisions and ultimately Chris Ballard made them, but Morocco Brown
was like it's hard to describe. She immediately fired these
(12:14):
two people who have been presents around the building. In
Gorman's case, you know, twenty years. In Morocco Brown's case,
eight nine years. She just said, screw you. I know
who you are, I know what you're a You're gone.
And she neutered Chris Ballard, the GM. She and I
have had guys with the colts, said, don't want me
to say their names. Tell me she was. She just said, no,
(12:37):
you have done a terrible job. You're either going to
get with what we're trying to do here or you're
going to get gone. And she put her trust in
coach and his coaching staff, and that comes from being
on the sideline listening to conversations. She realized that Stichen
and his coaches knew what the hell they were doing.
(12:58):
The general manager not necessarily the same level. So she's
put her faith in stich It and stiking pretty good,
you know. And so she's really new to the general manager.
She got rid of these guys, one of which was
a general manager's guy, Morocco Brown. And I got to
tell you, man, it's kind of cool because she's a
serious person. No bs, and you know this. You guys
(13:21):
know this. You come into an organization. You're a woman, right,
People are gonna doubt all that kind of stuff. But
it's always easy to lighten up. It is very difficult
to toughen up. And she came in guns blazing, man.
She got rid of these two people and everybody in
that organ I got two really good sources in there.
They tell me a this, this, this woke everybody's ass up,
(13:41):
out of complacency or out of thinking that they've got
their job, you know, emeritus. That kind of thing is
pretty good. So she's got a lot of respect around here.
Speaker 1 (13:48):
All right, World series is too too. Who do you
got in the next couple of games?
Speaker 2 (13:54):
I'm gonna ask you, but I gotta tell you, man,
there's something I don't know. Man, there's some about this
Toronto team. I'm kind of digging or a trou Tony's
the best player in the history of the world. I
get it. But hey, you know what I got. I
hope every game goes extra innings. I hope they keep
making plays. But I'm not betting against the freaking uh
(14:15):
Blue Jays. I don't know why I don't, So I'll
ask you who you got after four games? Who you
guys got?
Speaker 1 (14:21):
I gotta go with my partner, you know, Ben, Ben
loves Vladdie Jr. George Springer's Yukon grad you know, hope, yeah,
he gets back in the next couple of games. But
you know, I like the underdog. I won on an underdog.
We beat the Mighty A's. I mean, I'm hoping the
Blue Jays take out the Dodgers. I hate the Dodgers, Gibbs.
Speaker 2 (14:42):
My favorite player non Cubs Division, uh, was Bernie Williams.
And I don't know why. Bernie Williams, the centerfielder for
the Yankees, was so cool, so smooth, you know. And
my favorite player going back was George Springer. Ye. I
don't know why.
Speaker 3 (14:57):
George Springer when he was with Houston.
Speaker 2 (14:59):
I'm just like, man, that dude is so cool. That
dude is so clunched, and then he bangs out the
home run, you know, and oh yeah, I don't know him.
I never met him. I didn't know he's a Yukon grat,
but I'll root for any team. I just think he's cool.
I just think he and Bernie Williams are like, yeah,
they're just cool. Man. I like him, so I'm rooting
(15:19):
for them. But I love the bab man the throws.
How about the throws and the tags? Great, holy com man,
it's awesome. I got to get my wife's cussing the drivers.
My wife's cussing the drivers as we're driving down the street.
She's she you know, was it Syracuse for ten years?
She's Northeastern.
Speaker 3 (15:35):
How about you move.
Speaker 2 (15:36):
Over, dumbass. She just yelled at somebody. I'm taking it, man. Yeah,
let's go. Yeah, let's go in Indy.
Speaker 4 (15:43):
Now that you're fired up, I got to get a
hoops question in there about those IU hoosiers, and I
wanted to know you specifically, what you think of this
father son combo that's happening at IU this year with
Darien Debrize taking over his head coach and his son
Tucker Debris being one of the main players.
Speaker 3 (16:00):
Well, beat the hell out of the Bob Knight, Pat Knight,
because that night worst player ever. That's the first time
I use that line.
Speaker 2 (16:11):
I like it. No one's asked me.
Speaker 3 (16:13):
Uh, the kid is really good.
Speaker 2 (16:16):
Tucker is really good. Like I saw him my son's
coach in Illinois State there in the same league. That
kid's and you know what, he's good. He's good. Late
you know what I mean by that, Like he ain't
no three o'clock hitter in the games at seven man,
he's yeah, yeah, yeah, And they're in the same league.
And that dude he lifts up and you know, you
want the ball in his hands. And you know what
(16:37):
is a good really good coach. I've known him as
his assistant was one of mine. We sent him over
to work for an actual good coach after being with me,
so he I like what he's done here. I don't
know that they're going to be talented enough Indiana, but
I think that you know, Tucker and his dad, Tucker's legit.
You got to be the best player or the worst
(16:58):
player if.
Speaker 3 (16:59):
You're going to be the coach son, you know, and
that Night was the worst player. You know you do
you can't, you know? Night Kid was by far the worst.
Speaker 2 (17:08):
No, if you're in between, then people bitch because he's
just playing because he's his dad. It's a pain in
the ass. But Night's kid was the worst player ever
to play in Indiana.
Speaker 3 (17:18):
But his dad treated him like.
Speaker 2 (17:20):
A regular player, and that was the real problem. But Tucker,
if he's not the best, he's one a And by
the way I saw it, yesterday and I love it.
My boy Danny Hurley is already in mid season form,
ripping ass on the sideline. Man. He uh, he never disappoints.
But I like where Indiana's that. I think Indiana is
gonna get really good. They got a bunch of money.
(17:42):
Two billionaires, Mark Cuban and a guy named Todd Wagner
are funding it. They're gonna be good, so.
Speaker 3 (17:47):
You know, but they ain't catching Yukon, not this year.
Speaker 2 (17:51):
I hope that Mullen's kid gets back because he's pretty good. Man.
He's really good kid from Indiana.
Speaker 1 (17:56):
Docats, you're the best. Thank you so much. Call me anytime, brother.
Speaker 2 (18:00):
I always have fun with you. Guys anytime. Man, let's
do it again. Thanks guys, see it all right,
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