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Speaker 1 (00:09):
Yeah, yeah, I'm at Brooklyn. Now I'm down in Trout
back right next to the Nevro. But I'll be hood forever.
I'm then sat And since I made it here, I
can make it anywhere.
Speaker 2 (00:20):
Yeh.
Speaker 1 (00:20):
They love me everywhere. I used to cop in Harlem.
I love my DMin Donald's right there Albom Broadway. Pull
me back to that McDonald's.
Speaker 2 (00:27):
Put it to my slash five sixty State Street.
Speaker 1 (00:29):
Catch me in the kitchen like a Simmons whoping.
Speaker 3 (00:31):
Pate Street, cruising down a street off White nextus, driving so.
Speaker 1 (00:35):
Slow, but BK is from Texas.
Speaker 3 (00:38):
Me.
Speaker 1 (00:38):
I'm up that bit right? My boys with me? Fink
the first one escape from New York. You brought this
up think.
Speaker 2 (00:49):
With Gary Gary Sanchez and that when you go to
New York and you feel the glitz and glamour and
you have some success, you feel like, man, I have
totally made it, and then you start having some bad
days and it just feels like the whole city's on
top of you. You can't escape the media. Every little
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thing you do is scrutinized. It's so overwhelming. You leave
and you go to a small market, no one knows
you exist, and all of a sudden, you're back to
being in an All Pro and.
Speaker 1 (01:22):
It is just Stark Stark.
Speaker 4 (01:26):
You could do the reverse, though, because Robinson Cano was
amazing in New York. Then he went to Seattle and
disappeared and nobody remembered who he was at that point.
Then he tried to come back and play in New York,
but it was too late.
Speaker 2 (01:40):
I'll give you that guy, but that one is few
and far between compared to the ones that leave and
have a great.
Speaker 1 (01:46):
Time and your soul to kid out.
Speaker 2 (01:50):
Well, the Giants just have a laundry list of these guys. Henry,
the Giants fans just going over the top of his
head and just throwing names out there. But Sakuon Barkley,
how could I forget? Saquon Barkley leaves within one year,
has the best season of any running back ever, and
that one, you know, that's not really the glitz and
glam on top of somebody, because Saquon was awesome when
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he was in New York. Saquon's awesome when he's out
of New York. Daniel Jones, however, Oh Daniel Jones gets
out of that shadow and in Game one looks like
the best version of Daniel Jones you have ever seen.
Speaker 1 (02:25):
I agree, But also we don't know how they used
him in New York, meaning did they draw plays for him,
did they try to, you know, make him the focal
point of the offense, or was it no, you're going
to run these plays even though Daniel Jones wasn't capable
of doing some of that. Then he goes to Tennessee
and you're just like, or Indianapolis, excuse me, and you're like, Okay,
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let's try to make this more of Daniel Jones's cup
of tea things that he can possibly because your job
as a coach to put somebody in a position to succeed.
It's not just you know, hey, we get this good player,
he's going to do it my way because I'm a genius.
You try to take everything like Cam Newton. They used
to draw plays for Cam Newton because Cam Newton had
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a set of skills kind of like Liam ne but
it skills, yeah, different set of skills.
Speaker 4 (03:16):
And I think that now Daniel Jones is with a
coordinator and a coach that are trying to use his
set of skills.
Speaker 2 (03:23):
Odell Beckham Junior was brought up by Henry and like
we were like, I don't know if he got better.
He did win a Super Bowl with the Rams, and
for that year was dynamite, like he was a threat
that you had to pay attention to. He broke his
knee in half, but he was really good in New
York too. He was good in New York, but they
ran him out of town. They were sick of his
act and they ran him out of town. I think
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his act changed. I think maybe over time he realized like, Okay,
this is not the way I can do it everywhere,
and I have to be a professional. And maybe it
made him better, but I'd throw him on the list downside.
But on the list, how about those Green Bay Packerd
quarterbacks that think they can just go to the Jets
and then it will all work out, and then all
of a sudden, scrutinized, scrutinized off the field pictures, off
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the field incidents, all of a sudden, they're just the
worst people in the world, and.
Speaker 1 (04:14):
Then they leave looking pretty good.
Speaker 2 (04:16):
For Aaron Rodgers after Week one against his old team,
worked really well for Brett Fart with the Minnesota Vikings.
Speaker 1 (04:23):
Now did he play well with the Jets? Th Brett Favre.
Speaker 2 (04:27):
He played Okay, okay, what's like the last games that
he has with the Jets. Screwed that life, didn't He's
not the best person in the world.
Speaker 1 (04:38):
I think Aaron Rodgers screwed that one. Not the best
person either there.
Speaker 2 (04:42):
But when they're out of New York, they play much
better quarterback, much better quarterback.
Speaker 3 (04:48):
Another quarterback that we that we that we don't even
talk about, played for both the Giants and the Jets,
Gino Smith.
Speaker 1 (04:54):
G You know, Smith's a good one. Smith, good one.
Speaker 2 (04:58):
Dude goes to seattles and throws pity. He doesn't got
everybody like in Seattle. The twelfth Man like likes him.
Speaker 5 (05:05):
And now he plays for the Raiders.
Speaker 1 (05:08):
Plays for the Raiders, and last time the head coach
so he kind of like brought him with him.
Speaker 2 (05:13):
What to know, he's got more wins than sixteen other
quarterbacks I know in the league.
Speaker 3 (05:19):
He had to be the unfortunate guy to be the
to be the first guy to play quarterback for the
New York Giants. Right after Eli Manning retired, all.
Speaker 2 (05:27):
His teammate punched him in the face. He made punched
him in the face, and what his coach say deserve it.
Speaker 5 (05:36):
Remember that he was on the Jets when that happened.
Speaker 1 (05:38):
Yeh Rex Ryan told me he deserved it. Linebacker can't
remember his name, Edwires Jawn, I had to get his
jaw wired. I got another one for you.
Speaker 2 (05:48):
Glabor Glaves was in New York City, like Labor Tours,
playing his best baseball for the Detroit Tigers.
Speaker 1 (05:54):
Know, if it's his best, it's way better than Yankees.
Speaker 2 (05:56):
I mean, if it's not his best, you're probably taking
a small month sample from the New York Yankees. But
in overall season, it's his best season.
Speaker 4 (06:05):
He's kind of cooled off. His first three months are fantastic.
I really did like the you know him and Hobby Baiez.
I mean, they bought into whatever a J. Hinch is selling.
Speaker 1 (06:15):
So the crowd was like simmering.
Speaker 2 (06:16):
When Glabor Glabes gets into the box and Glabor Glabes,
I don't think he does this in the pinstripes. Glabor
Glabe steps out of the box, acknowledges the crowd tips
the cap like he kind of grew up after they
kicked him to the curb.
Speaker 1 (06:32):
I think there's something about that.
Speaker 4 (06:34):
Too, Like I think you start understanding you're running out
of chances.
Speaker 2 (06:38):
Not only that, but like how you better grow at it.
Like man, you were on the Yankees. Dude, you messed
that absolutely, you messed that up.
Speaker 4 (06:45):
About Michael King Great, pretty good with the Yankees, better
with the Padres.
Speaker 1 (06:50):
Great with the Padres.
Speaker 2 (06:51):
They they like him there, And I think I don't
read the San Diego newspapers, but I'm sure they're a
lot better than they are to him, for sure, compared
to the New York reporters that I was hearing.
Speaker 1 (07:03):
Now.
Speaker 4 (07:03):
I know he didn't leave New York, but he did
leave home the Yanks. Clay Holmes, he went across town.
He's been very good, one of the most solid starters
for the Mets.
Speaker 2 (07:12):
He's on tonight, though, and Clay Holmes knows that if
he makes it the playoffs with the Mets and has
a stinker, they're going to.
Speaker 1 (07:19):
Be all over there. They'll be pitchforks and torches at
his house.
Speaker 2 (07:24):
The Mets are a little different because they've had some
guys that were very successful with them, and then when
they leave, they're still successful. Jacob de Grom's about to
pitch there again. He was great when he was in
New York. Met Now he didn't get run support. That's
not the city's fault. That was that was his team
in GM's fault at the time. But he has left
New York. Won the World Series right with the Texas Rangers.
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So well.
Speaker 4 (07:47):
I mean that's happened a couple of times of guys
coming into New York too. Wade Bogs came in here,
he won, you know, also Johnny Damon one in Boston.
Then he came here and won a ring with the Yankees.
Speaker 1 (08:00):
You brought up a Roaldus Chapman. All this.
Speaker 2 (08:02):
Chapman left, the Yanks, left, the Yanks won a ring
back to the Yanks left him again again.
Speaker 4 (08:09):
They didn't want him. He was pitching his worst ever
and pitching his best ever with the Swaks.
Speaker 2 (08:14):
Breath, fresh Air, Breath, the fresh Air. I got another
picture for you. This one's right up the alley. Sonny Gray.
Speaker 4 (08:22):
Sonny Gray's been very good in the different stops. Yeah, yeah,
multiple couldn't pitch in Pinstripe.
Speaker 1 (08:29):
Could not pitch in New York.
Speaker 2 (08:31):
The Sonny Gray day was like, oh what we get
it's a grade day.
Speaker 1 (08:36):
A grade day. Everybody was sad on the Gray days,
but now it's.
Speaker 2 (08:40):
A sunny day's happy when Sonny's out there.
Speaker 5 (08:42):
How about another picture. David Kohne started.
Speaker 4 (08:46):
With the Mets, start with the Royals, started with the Royals,
then a World Series with the Royals. Yeah, you dud,
just knowing what the New York he that was, guys,
the filthiest, whole damn career, Toronto, always filthy Toronto.
Speaker 5 (08:57):
And then came to the Yankees, pitched an over.
Speaker 4 (08:59):
They saw, always pass him around at the trade day line.
He's always helped teams win. Was he bad with the Yankees? Yeah,
he was fine with good Yankees and.
Speaker 1 (09:08):
He was fine.
Speaker 2 (09:09):
I think he won two championships with the Yankees. He did,
he was great everywhere. I can't put nothing, nothing gets
it come nothing.
Speaker 4 (09:16):
I don't think he escaped New York because now he
works for the Yankee. He's never gonna He's never gonna escape.
Speaker 1 (09:21):
Good luck. He's not Kurt Russell, He's not Snake Plisken.
This is my favorite. Isaiah Hartenstein.
Speaker 2 (09:28):
Isaiah Hartenstein, Heart and soul in Stein for the New
York Knicks eighty two game a season.
Speaker 1 (09:35):
Hartenstein, they didn't build around him. That hurt. It didn't
really out of here.
Speaker 2 (09:39):
Isaiah go to Oklahoma City where no one cares.
Speaker 5 (09:43):
And wouldn't stay.
Speaker 1 (09:44):
He's an NBA championshipship.
Speaker 5 (09:46):
That hurt.
Speaker 1 (09:47):
Wow, that hurt me. I was like, you so happy
for him, man.
Speaker 4 (09:51):
I'm happy for him, but big piece too. He was big,
big piece in that cog twenty eight minutes per.
Speaker 2 (09:57):
Now, I will claim there are certain people that get
made by New York and when they leave, they're really
not heard from in the same light, Jeremy Lynn was
made by New York.
Speaker 1 (10:09):
City Lyn sanity. That was a three minute thing.
Speaker 2 (10:12):
If that happens in Milwaukee, no one knows who the
hell Jeremy Lynn is and doesn't care. Jeremy Lynn just
retired and we made note of it. If Jeremy Lynn
never played for the New York Knicks.
Speaker 1 (10:23):
Yeah, you were on that show.
Speaker 2 (10:29):
If he never played for the New York Knicks and
only played for the Houston Rockets and Toronto. By the way,
Jeremy Lynn, he was on that Toronto Raptors championship team.
Speaker 1 (10:40):
He did win a championship. After he leaves, He's got
a lucky rabbit's fleet.
Speaker 2 (10:44):
Adam Adam to the list escaped from New York, got
himself a title from Palo Alto High to Harvard.
Speaker 1 (10:54):
Yeah, the Knicks.
Speaker 2 (10:56):
Yeah that Carmelo though, Let's see, let's see Carmelo comes
from Denver to New York.
Speaker 1 (11:05):
Yeah, does he win the gold medal? No, he's he's
a Nick.
Speaker 2 (11:13):
Carmelo did it right, Eli, he did it right. Carmelo,
he did it right. Jeter, he did it right. It's hard, though, man,
it is a hard place to be successful.
Speaker 1 (11:25):
For a long time and be a staple in that
community like this.
Speaker 4 (11:27):
Jeter gave his girls gift boxes. Yeah, Jeter did everything right.
Speaker 1 (11:32):
Man. He was even a gentleman.
Speaker 4 (11:34):
When he's telling you to leave here, I got a
limo for you, and I got a gift bag.
Speaker 1 (11:39):
Here you go, Bye bye. Classic.
Speaker 5 (11:41):
Only thing you gotta do is give up your phone, right,
which was give up your phone?
Speaker 1 (11:47):
We got? I got.
Speaker 2 (11:47):
I don't if Derek Jeter plays for I hate to
keep on bringing up Milwaukee. It's just one of my
least favorite cities.
Speaker 1 (11:55):
Hey, I played Milwaukee. I love Milwaukee. In Milwaukee, you
can get away with any thing.
Speaker 2 (12:00):
And I don't think Derek Jeter's given out gift bags
or hiding people's cell phones if he is a Milwaukee brewer.
I think he learns it being in New York. Yankee
not necessary.
Speaker 4 (12:12):
Not necessary, Cincinnati, not necessary, Sory now La Chicago, New York,
it's necessary.
Speaker 1 (12:20):
Definitely New York.
Speaker 4 (12:23):
If you're if you're playing in I don't even think Houston.
You need to give a gift box out the door.
Speaker 2 (12:28):
Somebody has made a list of the New York team,
uh New York Knicks that have left the New York
Knicks that end up winning a title. Jeremy Lynn Is
cited twenty nineteen with the Raptors. Channing Fry drafted in
two thousand and five, one with the Cleveland Cavaliers in
twenty sixteen.
Speaker 1 (12:47):
David Lee, the Knicks kicked.
Speaker 2 (12:49):
To the Curb, was one of the beny players for
the Golden State Warriors twenty fifteen.
Speaker 1 (12:53):
Yeah remember when he was on that year to fifteen.
Speaker 2 (12:58):
Oh yeah, you do, And you wouldn't be I wouldn't
be able to pick him out of the lineup. But
if he's the only white dude, then yeah there's David Lee.
Speaker 1 (13:10):
David Lee.
Speaker 2 (13:10):
Roth Trevor Reza was drafted by the Knicks in two
thousand and four wins the Lakers two thousand.
Speaker 4 (13:18):
Made this list too much time on your hands and
probably a tortured New York nick fan.
Speaker 2 (13:22):
Tortured New York nick fan, New York Jets Keishawn Johnson
on Johnson, but a.
Speaker 1 (13:31):
Hell of a time is it yet? They create? Yet?
They killed you didn't do well? They killed him in
New York. You didn't do well and you do anything
but catch.
Speaker 4 (13:40):
Like somebody Williams going from the Jests and Jet, he
was pretty good. Damn good Jet before he went to
the Giants.
Speaker 2 (13:48):
Same with Jonathan Vilma, who ended up winning one with
who ended up winning one with the Patriots.
Speaker 1 (13:55):
Yeah, oh, here's a great one. Makai Beckton, that's true.
Last year Yep, Mackay Beckton, what a bust horrible.
Speaker 2 (14:06):
I'd rather draft a refrigerator door than Mackay Beckton wins
one with the Philadelphia Eagles last year as one of
their better linemen.
Speaker 4 (14:15):
That was a great story. Good for the kid, That
was a great story. He and Saquonon deserves it the most.
Speaker 1 (14:22):
Man you did.
Speaker 4 (14:23):
That'll never leave me with the gm what was his name,
Joe Shi, Joe Shane or Shane or whatever. Dude, go
find your own deal and if it's you know, we'll try.
Speaker 1 (14:33):
To match it. Will you count John ol Rud left
the Mets.
Speaker 4 (14:44):
Yeah, he was the blue Jay first with Ricky Henderson.
Take him off the list, and then Ricky's like, hey,
I used to play with the guy who wore a helmet.
Speaker 1 (14:50):
Take him off the list. He doesn't like that was me,
Ricky John Old, Oh, I got one for you.
Speaker 2 (14:58):
I don't know if you count this as New York.
So Doctor J left the Nets, played in the A B. Yeah,
went to the seventy six ers, won a championship in
eighty three.
Speaker 1 (15:08):
Doctor J.
Speaker 2 (15:08):
Pretty damn good with the Nets though, and great at
Rucker Park two. I mean, we gotta admit Rcord Park
loved doctor. That's a whole other chapter, the writing any
bad press about Doctor J in New York?
Speaker 1 (15:22):
They did not kill Doctor J. Long less though. And
I think we got the hockey guys. Anybody leave like
the Islanders the.
Speaker 2 (15:29):
Rangers surprising that someone put this list together. No messier
was Edmondon oiler before he got here. A makes it
mess won four championships in Edmonton and.
Speaker 1 (15:40):
Then one one with the Ranger, then one one with
the Rangers. Okay, here you go.
Speaker 2 (15:44):
James Patrick and John Vansberby Brook key members of the Rangers.
Speaker 3 (15:49):
Johnny van biesbrook he was he was the Rangers. He
was No, he was the Rangers goalie went to the
Panthers and won the Stanley Cup with the Panthers.
Speaker 1 (15:59):
There you go. Did the New Jersey Devils count as
a New York team? No, okay, not at all. That sucks. No, no, no.
Speaker 2 (16:11):
And with the Nets like before they moved to Brooklyn,
like the Nets, I don't count as a New York okay.
Speaker 1 (16:16):
But the Giants have been playing at the Metal Lands.
Speaker 2 (16:19):
But it's right, But it's still a Jersey. Across the river,
I can see New Newark. It's stinks you drive by there.
Speaker 4 (16:26):
I drive by there on my way to Florida. It
still smells bad driving by the Metal Lands.
Speaker 5 (16:32):
Hold my breath going down the turnpike.
Speaker 1 (16:34):
Dude, that why the water parks inside?
Speaker 2 (16:38):
Yeah?
Speaker 5 (16:39):
Oh he's talking about American dreak.
Speaker 1 (16:40):
How about the Ferris wheeler down there? How big is
that thing? My wife will never go on that thing?
Speaker 2 (16:44):
Oh?
Speaker 1 (16:45):
Is that in closed so it doesn't stink like when
you're on top? Could you imagine? Okay, we're gonna stop
while you're on top so you can catch it all right? Oh? Yeah, great,
Newark smells some of those car pine trees in the cars.
Something about New York, about New York. The list will
continue to grow.
Speaker 4 (17:05):
Did McEnroe win Wimbledon? Yeah, he did, all right? So
he left New York to go over there and win Wimbledon.
Speaker 1 (17:12):
That's a reach.
Speaker 2 (17:13):
It's hard because you got to find the guy, good
athlete that his talent is diminished because the city is
just on top of them and doesn't let them breathe.
Speaker 1 (17:22):
And that is what we're looking for.
Speaker 2 (17:24):
And I think man Daniel Jones is going to be
a stark example, just like Saquan was last and Makai
Beckton last year.
Speaker 5 (17:33):
Exam didn't Jeff Kent well when he was with the Giants,
he did.
Speaker 1 (17:38):
He won an MVP. Good call, Good call, Jeff Kent.
Speaker 4 (17:42):
Jeff Kent, Sydney Nolan Ryan, Nolan Ryan, Nolan Ryan was
not good with the Mets.
Speaker 2 (17:48):
I was going to start, okay because I see the
Angels as Ian always saw something like.
Speaker 5 (17:54):
That, not the Mets.
Speaker 4 (17:55):
He was he was a reliever with the Mets. He
was having trouble finding the plate when he was a Mat. Yeah,
it's coaching