August 20, 2025 • 25 mins
Chris Gordy and Ross Villarreal are talking all things Houston Astros as the offense is coming off an abysmal week amid several shutouts, while the pitching has been just as putrid with Framber Valdez putting the exclamation point on things.
Can the offense turn things around with Yordan Alvarez nearing a return? Can Lance McCullers and Cristian Javier return to their old form of solid starters?
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Can the offense turn things around with Yordan Alvarez nearing a return? Can Lance McCullers and Cristian Javier return to their old form of solid starters?
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Speaker 1 (00:09):
Astros fans cheers, Wacky Lucky, Welcome to the Crawford Box Cast.
Speaker 2 (00:17):
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Speaker 1 (00:25):
Oh my goodness, the Crawford Box cast starts now here
we go. Here's Chris Gordy and Ross viiel and it is.
Speaker 3 (00:35):
It all new Crawford Box Cast coming to you on
this Thur Wednesday evening after the Astros uh got demolished
by the Detroit Tigers seven to two, not just in
a series on Wednesday, but in the series as well.
As the Astros find themselves on a four game losing streak.
They've lost five of six. Things are not going well.
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They just had a scoreless inning streak that was absolutely miserable.
And how are you guys today? Hopefully you're getting a
Crawford bock from our friends at car Bock Burwing. Of course,
that can help you feel good no matter what the situation.
But Ross I might be loading up on some Crawford
box because the fridge is running dry after this past
week of Astars baseball.
Speaker 2 (01:19):
Yeah, it's it's been rough. You gotta self medicate, However,
you need to self medicate. Four shutouts out of five games,
I mean three in a row, stuff that we hadn't
seen since I mean basically you and I had been born.
And this is just every year, it feels like around
this time of year, middle of August, astros go through
some dog days, things don't go their way. You can
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crop up where they lose to some bad teams, and
but this is just this is just historic. I mean,
this is just unheard of. This is just absolutely ridiculous.
The futility of baseball, of baseball that we've seen in
the last several days. I just can't believe what I'm seeing.
And you mentioned all the shutouts, all the score and
just as we all predicted Marisodbond with an opo two
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run shot to finally get them on the board. But
that that's been it. That's been it for four games
and for five out of six. And then from er Valdez,
who I have been a big defender of, whether on
this podcast or on airon Sports Talk seven ninety tenth
inning shows, whatever, because I think, you know, he gives
up three innings in three runs at an inning. Everybody's like, oh,
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he's blown up. He's blown up what everybody does that
everybody doesn't do. What he did today today was a
full blown Fromber Valdez meltdown. He's soft tossing fastballs, he's
throwing wild pitches and just completely coming unglued there in
the first inning. And really a blessing in disguise that
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Taylor Tremello goes down with the injury that he did,
because that kind of allowed Fromber to gather himself, got
three straight ground balls, got out of the first inning,
and then only gave up one run the rest of
the way. So, I mean, I guess if we want
to just credit him for at least going five for
how much of a disaster it was, but there's no
doubt about it. It was a vintage Fromber of Valdez
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meltdown in that first inning, and you never had a
shot of winning today.
Speaker 3 (03:10):
Yeah, this thing goes back to really, you know, a
week ago, last Friday, they they're hosting Baltimore. Remember they
they win the Wednesday game against Boston. You come out
of that series feeling pretty good, You win two out
of three, you got after Walker Buehler, But Friday night,
Frober wasn't sharp, you know, gave up what three or
four and.
Speaker 2 (03:28):
Four runs three of them earned. Technically was a quality start,
wasn't horrible, but you.
Speaker 3 (03:32):
Get shut out what Dana no hitter going on? You
through like eight innings, and so it was it was
a perfect game. It was ugly. And then Saturday you
get a really good start from Jason Alexander six innings,
a two run ball. Unfortunately you blow that one, you know,
was it Caleb Board or somebody give up a two
run homer, and then you go to extra innings and
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finally in twelve innings you find a way to win
that one. I mean, Doorls were literally putting it on
a play, going here, please take this win, and they
wouldn't take it. They wouldn't.
Speaker 2 (04:03):
They should they should have thrown the ball home and
they had the pitcher spot next up. You should have
kept that game going.
Speaker 3 (04:08):
Yeah, But anyway, so they find a way to win
Saturday's game. And then Sunday, Christian Havier makes another one
of his starts and he's looking okay, he was in
three innings, gives up the one run and then leaves
the game with an illness, and Sean Duban comes in
and the Wheels absolutely come off as they lose twelve
to nothing. Monday, the head to Detroit. You go, okay,
(04:30):
it's gonna be some good pitchers here with Flaherty and
school Bull and Morton. But let's see and you know,
Arraghetti goes out. Monday night. He pitches well for the
first four innings. Of the fifth inning, again, Wheels come
off and suddenly you know you're down five to nothing.
You go on to lose ten nothing. All right, let's
try to wipe the slate clean. You go into Tuesday
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night and an incredible pitchers duel between Hunter Brown and
Tark school Ball. Nothing nothing after nine innings, and then
Caleb Ord in the tenth walks in a bases loaded
run and you lose one nothing. So Wednesday Ross, we're thinking, look, god,
this has been so bad. Let's just come on Fromber's
on the mat. Let's go get a win. And we
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get that from Fromber today where he gives up in
five runs in the first inning. I mean you're or
was it six? I mean you were down yeah, and
it was like base hit, base hit walk, base hit walk,
base hit. It was like, good guy, you couldn't even
get it out. And then he kills Taylor tremmeell basically
with the ball ripped to the wall. I mean, this
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was about as comical and as bad as you could get.
Speaker 2 (05:37):
Yeah, it's it's crazy. I mean, I think on the
radio broadcast, I was listening on the radio mostly today,
Robert Ford saying everything that can go wrong is going wrong,
and I'm thinking to myself, that is like understatement of
the year. The good news is the Mariner still suck.
But I mean the bad news is you could be
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three and a half, four and a half games up
on them if you win a couple of these games,
not that they're all winnable, a lot of them are
blowouts and you're not scoring runs. But it's some missed
opportunities for the Astros right now, and it's extremely frustrating
and they're frustrated. Joe Spot is frustrated if you hear
him in postgame media availability. So nobody is happy with
what's going on right now. Fans are frustrated going after
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each other. I was yelling at people in the post
game yesterday and stuff like that, which I don't normally do.
It's just everybody's at the end of their rope, and
we do have to remember it's middle August. They're still
in first place, but there is no way anything of
what we're seeing right now is acceptable baseball. If the
Astros think they're going to continue to push for the.
Speaker 3 (06:40):
Playoffs, yeah, and look, losses happen, but it's just been
the way that these are happening. We're gonna get to
the offense here in a second. But while we're talking pitching,
we talked starters. Let's talk bullpen now. Brian Obray you
has been great, by the way, he has an ERA
of zero in the month of August. Ross Brian A.
Brady has been an awesome in that close a role
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when needed with Josh hater out still acting as a
setup man and so on and so forth. He's been great. Uh.
Steven Okert's been Okay, He's given up a couple runs
this month, but overall he's been He's been a little
bit more reliable this month than he was last month. Uh.
Brian King kind of the same thing, an ERA of
four to twenty six. Really only two innings or two
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outings he gave up runs and all the other ones
have been scoreless. Benett's SUSA kind of the same thing.
You know, all these guys kind of fit the same category.
Era's around four for the month. They've had some good outings,
have had some bad outings, and then in the same
thing with cayleb Bord, you know, one or two bad outings,
but overall's been good. But Sean Duban, I mean, my
guy who had what like the month of May and
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June had in the array of sub two was awesome.
Since coming back from injury, his last couple of outings
in the last two weeks have been god awful where
he's given up four earned, three earned, four earned. You
could bind that with the revival tour of Taylor Scott,
which went sideways very quickly on Monday. Many they're looking
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for arms because I think a lot of the guys
you've been using all year are getting taxed. You know,
you don't have you know, Josh Hater now as a
lockdown closer, and they're looking for inning eaters because what's
happening is you're getting you know, whether it's Javier sickness,
whether it's Arrogetty not being able to give a quality start,
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and then Fromber with all his ills, you're having a
lean on some arms, eat up innings and it's just
I think it's taxing on everybody right now.
Speaker 2 (08:36):
Yeah, it's very charitable of the Astros offense when they
don't score runs on the road. You only have to
cover eight innings, so you got Fromer for five, Dubin,
Della Sentos, and Van Why for the others. So you're
all good saving the bullpen. You don't have to get
Chans McCormick out there all the time. But yeah, I
obviously I'm joking. It's just it's frustrating, and I think
it is kind of dog days with guys you talked about,
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you know, Sean Dubin. We loved what he was doing
the first couple of months, and he did have a
scoreless inning today, but it's also like, what is his
major league track record? It's not great, same thing for
Aniel Della Santo, Steven Oak or Brian King, Like I mean,
branking very basically is virtually no major league track record
before the last couple of years with the Houston Astros.
So we can love these unproven guys and we do
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out of the bullpen when they have seven, eight, ten
good appearances, but the wheels can come off. The season
is taxing. You've got a lot of guys who haven't
had a ton of appearances, either you know, in their
major league careers or just period as major leaguers don't
have a lot of appearances that you are going to
have to depend on down the stretch here in an
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important American League West race, and you're down that arm
with Josh Hater, who we know right now at the
very least is out for the rest of the regular season.
Speaker 3 (09:52):
The a guy who spent a good portion of this
season with the Space Cowboys, the Astros brought up to
the Bigs in WEMS and that was not good. Well,
they released him and he cleared waivers and so today
was outrighted back to Triple A sugar Land. So you
know that's happen with a couple of guys or us
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where they've they've released and had not one day team
in the league said do we want that guy? And
they end up back in sugar Land. So that kind
of speaks still a little bit of where they are.
But yeah, I mean, I think before we get onto
the offense and some good news that could be coming
for the offense, you know, mccullors is gonna go Saturday.
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You hope that I'm sorry on Friday, you hope that
he gives you a good one, and then it's Javier
Saturday and Arraghetty Sunday. I mean, this is this is
a rotation of at least mccullor's and Xavier three years ago.
We're part of your World Series team, and so you know,
it's like you really need Javier and mccullors to get
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back to being what they were. Uh it's wild though,
looking at Jason Alexander going Thursday night and thinking he
gives us our best chance to win. I mean, it's
it's nuts.
Speaker 2 (11:06):
Yeah, it's man, it is just what Robert Fort said.
Everything that could go wrong is going wrong. You're in
the middle of August. You want, in a perfect world,
Christian Javier to have all the leeway and leash to
kind of find his way back because we know when
he's at his best, he's close to ace level. I mean,
he's been a part of multiple no hitters now multiple
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pitcher no hitters, but he got to start in multiple ones.
Lance mccullors Junior. We've seen him have that good start
at Dodger Stadium. We've seen him have three or four
quality starts this year, but we've also seen where he
falls apart. He can't fall, he can't get out. He's
walking guys, And this is what you can ill afford
with the bullpen. At the state of what we talked about,
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you add it all up, it's just it's a bad elixir.
It's bad where guys are just coming off to injuries.
They're trying to figure it out. Maybe they're pushing themselves
further than they should because they are. This whole entire
pitching staff is stressed, and it's just not the ideal
situation to have all these guys coming back while you're
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down in arm while you're yoyoing guys up and down
from triple A. Like you said, Jordan Wims, I mean
Taylor Scott was on this roster a couple of days
ago then he got dfayed. I mean, they are just
rolling through taping this together. Would would not even duct tape.
They're using like value brand Scotch tape with this stuff
right now, and it's it's it's unraveling a bit. And
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then we haven't even really talked about. No matter how
good the pitching staff would have been in the last
four of the last six games, they wouldn't have won
because they scored zero runs.
Speaker 3 (12:45):
Right, Well, that's the other part of it. And thankfully
the scoreless streak ended at thirty one innings on Wednesday,
when Mauricio Dubon, of all people, hit a two run Homer.
Dubon not known for his home run prowess, but thankfully
he was able to get that done.
Speaker 2 (13:03):
Uh.
Speaker 3 (13:03):
You know, look, everybody's been struggling in this lineup. As
of Waite, Hazu Sanchez was in an OH for twenty
seven slump. I don't know if he added to that
or not, but uh, at one point on Wednesday he
was in an OH for twenty seven slump. This uh's today? Yeah, yeah,
three strikeouts this lineup. I mean, you know, Jeremy Pinya
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had a hit. He still hit over three hundred. You know,
Korea feels like that. It's a hit every night, but
it's like a one for three or one for four,
and it's like, well the double play right behind it
exactly exactly. So you know, Al Twovey has been in
a funk. Christian Walker another OH for four to two
strikeout day, but Jesus Sanchez, I mean it's three hit,
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three strikeouts on Wednesday, it's he's just not seeing it.
And then Yaner Diaz is like, either he's getting you
two or three hits and awesome, or he's getting an
o for with three strikeouts. Like it's it's it's one
extreme of the other with yan Ordaz like that's just
kind of what he gives you, you know. But but
the whole rest of the crew, I mean, Cam Smith,
it feels like Kadn had a He's had one big
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hit in the last month. You know, Chas McCormick's don't
done nothing. Du Bond's largely done nothing. Taylor Tremmeel, poor
Jacob Melton. I mean that average dips every every time
he goes out there. Earlier in the week he was
at like two hundred, then it was one ninety, then
it was one eighty. Now it's at one seventy. I mean,
it just keeps dipping, dipping, dipping. I just look at
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this lineup Ross and go, I don't know how this
is going to change other than the big man expected
to come back sometime in the next week.
Speaker 2 (14:34):
That's gonna have to help.
Speaker 3 (14:35):
Uh.
Speaker 2 (14:35):
You mentioned Cam Smith. Here's his last three months at
the plate. June July August eight forty nine ops, five
sixty three, four seventy two. He is going through it.
It is getting worse and worse for him, and it's
not really his fault. He's a rookie who has been,
you know, pushed through as as a major leaguer without
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a whole lot of experience in the minor leagues, and
with the the Rock and the Astros, looking for a
lightning in a bottle, and unfortunately the long season is
wearing on him. And mentioned your Diaz and Christian Walker.
We're just gonna have to at some point chalk it
up to like, yeah, we're seeing flashes here and there
and here and there, and then this is maybe just
who they are, inconsistency, and the flashes are not necessarily
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reasons to get excited, but things that you just take
and say, Okay, we'll take that. We're cool. We're just
not gonna keep our expectations up that something is gonna turn.
That's just kind of where I am right now. And
you know, maybe I'm overreacting to a five to six
game stretch, but it's just it's just not feeling good.
I can't give you a tons of reasons for optimism.
They're gonna hit at some point, and maybe they explode
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for a bunch of runs against the Orioles this weekend,
and that's you know, that'd be a good time to
do it, because they continue to not lose ground. But
I'm just not feeling great about what they are. But
as you said, Jordon looms large. So if I can
hopefully be proven wrong, these guys, some of them to
some degree, turned it around. Korea can be good enough.
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Al Tuove good enough. Jeremy Penney continues his excellent season.
You can get enough hitting, but then I still all
these question marks about the pitching. How we feeling about
the next time Fromerveldez goes out there, we're gonna be
on pins and needles.
Speaker 3 (16:18):
Well, and back to the lineup real quick. There's two
guys I hate to pick on here, but you know,
Christian Walker has not been the Christian Walker you thought
you were signing in the off season. You know, we
see flashes every now and then. He still hits the
occasional home run. He's got sixteen, but man, we're about
to head in the backstretch of the season. This is
a guy who had thirty six hit twenty twenty two,
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thirty three homers in twenty twenty three. You know, even
you know, not the greatest average guy, but still hit,
you know, in the two fifties basically much of his career,
you know, but right now it's it's in the two thirties,
and you know, there's a lot of whiffs. One hundred
and thirty four strikeouts already this season that that surpasses
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his total from last year in one hundred and thirty
games with Arizona. So Jesus, I mean, it's it's bad, man, Like,
it's magnified if everybody else were in the line, Like
there was that stretch in Midsummer russ when you had
Painya and you had Jake Myers and everybody was doing
her thing. We didn't talk much about Christian Walker. We
knew he was underachieving, but it didn't come up because
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we kind of are like, all right, well, everybody else
is doing her thing, but it's magnified when everyone else
isn't hitting, and we're like, wait a minute, you're one
of our highest paid players. You're supposed to be producing.
And then the other one is Heyzu Sanchez And I
hate to pick on him, but he was this big
acquisition at the at the deadline that you know, they said,
you know, oh we got to get a left handed back,
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we got a left handed bat. Well, you got a
left handed back. But it's not a good one. I
mean it's a guy whose career that's two forty you know,
four to twenty slugging. I mean, it just kind of
is what it is. And he's below all those averages
right now in an astrosim a little bit of a
small sample size. A get it only played about twenty games,
But I like that guy, like that's supposed to be
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the savior like this, and they got him batting like
clean up one night. I'm like, he's not a good
hitter like this. The guy should be batting a down
in your order.
Speaker 2 (18:17):
He'd been very good against righty's and I think, yeah,
everybody was upset that he was batting clean up ahead
of uh, Christian Walker because he was like on a
zero for twenty one and Sanchez was but Christian Walker
was like on a one for fifteen, and he did
end up getting a couple of hits that night. But yeah,
it's it's also that the spotty doesn't have a whole
lot of work with You're like Okay, he shouldn't be batting.
Speaker 3 (18:36):
Clean up. We who you won in there?
Speaker 2 (18:36):
You Heiner Diaz had been good, Christian Walker had been good.
You're certainly not gonna put you know, Chas McCormick or
camp Smith or anybody else. It's like this lineup. When
they first after the trade deadline, we were like, man,
look at this, look at the link to this lineup.
You can get Jordan bag is gonna be one of the
best lineups in baseball. And it's funny the ebbs and
flows of one hundred and sixty two game season. Literally
a couple of weeks later, we're like, this lineup blows.
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They got no shot and obviously somewhere in between.
Speaker 3 (19:02):
Yeah, I mean again, I go back to Jordon coming back.
At least that's a that's the threat of a bat,
it's the threat of power. I don't I wouldn't expect.
Speaker 2 (19:11):
There's no guarantee he's gonna be in a good Yeah,
there's no guarantee that he's not playing through some sort
of hand pain and he's not gonna be good. I
mean that that's very possible.
Speaker 3 (19:18):
But at least there's a threat with L two ve Coorea,
Jordon you know, you get some semblance of the dangerous
lineup of the Astros and again, you know, I look,
we're very much in the moment right now. Ross like
they go through stretches like this fourth fourth of July weekend,
we were saying, this team, this seems got a chance
to win it all, you know what I mean, Like that's.
Speaker 2 (19:39):
Yeah, that's when they swept. They swept. The Dodgers were
like this, this is over hand them the American League Bennet.
Speaker 3 (19:44):
Yeah, so you know, we may just this may be
their low point of the season where we're looking and going, gosh,
this looks awful. I better be. But but the good
news is Seattle has been helping you. Seattle has been
on a skid as well, and us the Al West race,
you still remain a game and a half up. And
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the other thing is too the Rangers suck too. Like
in any other season, the Rangers would be nipping at
your heels going, oh, look at this Seattle. And you
know Asters have lost four in a row. Seattle's lost
five in a row. Well, the Rangers have lost eight
of their last ten, so even they've fallen back. I mean, heck,
the Angels are only a game and a half behind
the eight, the Rangers going, hey, we're still alive in
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this thing. So yeah, look, the AL West is turned
out to be a terrible division. But thankfully for the Astros,
that's a good thing because even despite all your warts
and your problems you've had the last few weeks, you
were still very much alive in winning this division.
Speaker 2 (20:42):
Yeah, that's the blessing right now. But no matter what happens,
they can't continue to play like this. Even if Seattle
falls completely off the earth, which I don't think they're
gonna do. I think they're gonna rally and get better.
Astros have to do the same. But you know, the
aspirations in Houston, Texas, the bar that they set because
of how great they've been isn't just to make the playoffs.
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It's to make the playoffs, and it's to win some games.
It's to the minimum, make an ALCS and hopefully make
another World Series. And they don't look anywhere close to
a World Series team right now. As you said, things
can turn. It's up and down, ebbs and flows, all
that good stuff, and that's the nature of a one
hundred and sixty two game season. But this is the
(21:23):
This is definitely well. I'd like to see this be
the lowest valley that they can hit this year. Otherwise
they're gonna be in huge trouble.
Speaker 3 (21:29):
Well, as we wrap up here, ross Astro's going to
Baltimore four game set, and man, they are going to
see what Brandon Young, who just nearly threw a no
hitter against them a week ago. They're gonna see Dean Kramer,
who with lights out against them on Sunday. You know,
maybe familiarity, maybe scouting report. You look at it and go, oh,
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we just saw these guys good.
Speaker 2 (21:52):
Just win three out of four. Man, that's what I want. Honestly,
I know you know what I'm gonna lie. I'm not
gonna lie.
Speaker 3 (21:58):
I've split.
Speaker 2 (21:59):
Wouldn't even make me happy. I need to see them
win this series. It's very important to me.
Speaker 3 (22:03):
Yeah, it's again a split when it least gets you
back into the al right, where we won some games
and we're feeling okay, because think about it. After that,
you come home and it's the Rockies and the Angels.
You can get the Yankees after that, but at least
seven games with the Rockies and Angels. If you can't
feel good about yourself in that stretch. I don't know
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what what will. So again, we can dip our cap
and say Detroit's a really good team losing to them,
there's no shame in that. But yeah, we can't have
any more skunkers where you're getting shut out. I mean
that's just inexcusable at this point.
Speaker 2 (22:40):
Yeah, it's let's just flush this one. That's what Joe
Spott has been saying. Flushes one flushes, one flushes, one
flushes one. Yeah, he was even kind of getting a
little sideways Brian mctagger like, yeah, I'm gonna flush this
with too, Brian like.
Speaker 3 (22:54):
It's getting bad.
Speaker 2 (22:55):
Man, Well, I just for everyone's mental health sake. Like
you know, Matt and I interview on Tuesdays, They're like,
what do we even ask this guy?
Speaker 3 (23:02):
Man?
Speaker 2 (23:02):
Like, obviously everything's terrible, but you know, he talked. He
was very honest about the approaches at the plate, how
they need to be better at taking pitches, better at
not swinging at balls outside the zone. And they all
know that and everything that we're all calling for. That
you and I could break down hitting Joe Aspata and
that staff can do a million times better than you
and I can it's just about there going out there
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doing it and executing and hopefully they'll be able.
Speaker 3 (23:25):
To do that. Oh, any more flushes, they will be
calling roto Router because they have a backup. There's been
too many flushes. We're we're asking you to conserve water here, Astros.
But let's see, Ross, I mean, the good news is,
you know, while we're watching the Astros this weekend from
our couch, we get some early games Thursday and Friday
and Saturday six pm local starts here for US Central Time,
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and then at twelve thirty start on Sunday. And well,
I got to run in the store a little bit
later to stock up on Crawford back. Make sure my
fridge is fully stocked, because man, it just goes better
when you're watching the Astros and enjoying it. I score
Crawford Bock from our friends at Carbock Brewing. Make sure
you guys do the same as we root on the Astros.
And maybe we'll look back on this moment Ross and
(24:10):
say this was the low point of the season. But hey,
at LISTA, we're having a Crawford back. We'll be filling
all right.
Speaker 2 (24:16):
Any last thoughts, No, not really, I'm happy to be
on VACAN. I'm on vacation Truth be Told starting today
for a week, and this seems like a perfect time
to get away. Hopefully they'll start winning. But I don't
even want to deal with it. I don't even want
to look at my mentions on Twitter with these people
that I've been arguing about from are with and stuff
like I need to step away. So Astros, I wish
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you do the best. I'm taking a breather.
Speaker 3 (24:40):
Yeah, I'm telling you right now. If they lose the Friday,
that game to with Jason Alexander on the mound, Lance
mccullors stepping to the mount on Friday will have the
weight of the world on his shoulders to just just
be decent. I mean, we're not even asking to throw
a no hitter, like, just just don't get lit up,
because if he gets lit up, my gosh, the avalanche
will be coming. Well, we'll hope for the best and
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Speaker 3 (00:35):
It all new Crawford Box Cast coming to you on
this Thur Wednesday evening after the Astros uh got demolished
by the Detroit Tigers seven to two, not just in
a series on Wednesday, but in the series as well.
As the Astros find themselves on a four game losing streak.
They've lost five of six. Things are not going well.
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They just had a scoreless inning streak that was absolutely miserable.
And how are you guys today? Hopefully you're getting a
Crawford bock from our friends at car Bock Burwing. Of course,
that can help you feel good no matter what the situation.
But Ross I might be loading up on some Crawford
box because the fridge is running dry after this past
week of Astars baseball.
Speaker 2 (01:19):
Yeah, it's it's been rough. You gotta self medicate, However,
you need to self medicate. Four shutouts out of five games,
I mean three in a row, stuff that we hadn't
seen since I mean basically you and I had been born.
And this is just every year, it feels like around
this time of year, middle of August, astros go through
some dog days, things don't go their way. You can
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crop up where they lose to some bad teams, and
but this is just this is just historic. I mean,
this is just unheard of. This is just absolutely ridiculous.
The futility of baseball, of baseball that we've seen in
the last several days. I just can't believe what I'm seeing.
And you mentioned all the shutouts, all the score and
just as we all predicted Marisodbond with an opo two
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run shot to finally get them on the board. But
that that's been it. That's been it for four games
and for five out of six. And then from er Valdez,
who I have been a big defender of, whether on
this podcast or on airon Sports Talk seven ninety tenth
inning shows, whatever, because I think, you know, he gives
up three innings in three runs at an inning. Everybody's like, oh,
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he's blown up. He's blown up what everybody does that
everybody doesn't do. What he did today today was a
full blown Fromber Valdez meltdown. He's soft tossing fastballs, he's
throwing wild pitches and just completely coming unglued there in
the first inning. And really a blessing in disguise that
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Taylor Tremello goes down with the injury that he did,
because that kind of allowed Fromber to gather himself, got
three straight ground balls, got out of the first inning,
and then only gave up one run the rest of
the way. So, I mean, I guess if we want
to just credit him for at least going five for
how much of a disaster it was, but there's no
doubt about it. It was a vintage Fromber of Valdez
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meltdown in that first inning, and you never had a
shot of winning today.
Speaker 3 (03:10):
Yeah, this thing goes back to really, you know, a
week ago, last Friday, they they're hosting Baltimore. Remember they
they win the Wednesday game against Boston. You come out
of that series feeling pretty good, You win two out
of three, you got after Walker Buehler, But Friday night,
Frober wasn't sharp, you know, gave up what three or
four and.
Speaker 2 (03:28):
Four runs three of them earned. Technically was a quality start,
wasn't horrible, but you.
Speaker 3 (03:32):
Get shut out what Dana no hitter going on? You
through like eight innings, and so it was it was
a perfect game. It was ugly. And then Saturday you
get a really good start from Jason Alexander six innings,
a two run ball. Unfortunately you blow that one, you know,
was it Caleb Board or somebody give up a two
run homer, and then you go to extra innings and
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finally in twelve innings you find a way to win
that one. I mean, Doorls were literally putting it on
a play, going here, please take this win, and they
wouldn't take it. They wouldn't.
Speaker 2 (04:03):
They should they should have thrown the ball home and
they had the pitcher spot next up. You should have
kept that game going.
Speaker 3 (04:08):
Yeah, But anyway, so they find a way to win
Saturday's game. And then Sunday, Christian Havier makes another one
of his starts and he's looking okay, he was in
three innings, gives up the one run and then leaves
the game with an illness, and Sean Duban comes in
and the Wheels absolutely come off as they lose twelve
to nothing. Monday, the head to Detroit. You go, okay,
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it's gonna be some good pitchers here with Flaherty and
school Bull and Morton. But let's see and you know,
Arraghetti goes out. Monday night. He pitches well for the
first four innings. Of the fifth inning, again, Wheels come
off and suddenly you know you're down five to nothing.
You go on to lose ten nothing. All right, let's
try to wipe the slate clean. You go into Tuesday
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night and an incredible pitchers duel between Hunter Brown and
Tark school Ball. Nothing nothing after nine innings, and then
Caleb Ord in the tenth walks in a bases loaded
run and you lose one nothing. So Wednesday Ross, we're thinking, look, god,
this has been so bad. Let's just come on Fromber's
on the mat. Let's go get a win. And we
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get that from Fromber today where he gives up in
five runs in the first inning. I mean you're or
was it six? I mean you were down yeah, and
it was like base hit, base hit walk, base hit walk,
base hit. It was like, good guy, you couldn't even
get it out. And then he kills Taylor tremmeell basically
with the ball ripped to the wall. I mean, this
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was about as comical and as bad as you could get.
Speaker 2 (05:37):
Yeah, it's it's crazy. I mean, I think on the
radio broadcast, I was listening on the radio mostly today,
Robert Ford saying everything that can go wrong is going wrong,
and I'm thinking to myself, that is like understatement of
the year. The good news is the Mariner still suck.
But I mean the bad news is you could be
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three and a half, four and a half games up
on them if you win a couple of these games,
not that they're all winnable, a lot of them are
blowouts and you're not scoring runs. But it's some missed
opportunities for the Astros right now, and it's extremely frustrating
and they're frustrated. Joe Spot is frustrated if you hear
him in postgame media availability. So nobody is happy with
what's going on right now. Fans are frustrated going after
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each other. I was yelling at people in the post
game yesterday and stuff like that, which I don't normally do.
It's just everybody's at the end of their rope, and
we do have to remember it's middle August. They're still
in first place, but there is no way anything of
what we're seeing right now is acceptable baseball. If the
Astros think they're going to continue to push for the.
Speaker 3 (06:40):
Playoffs, yeah, and look, losses happen, but it's just been
the way that these are happening. We're gonna get to
the offense here in a second. But while we're talking pitching,
we talked starters. Let's talk bullpen now. Brian Obray you
has been great, by the way, he has an ERA
of zero in the month of August. Ross Brian A.
Brady has been an awesome in that close a role
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when needed with Josh hater out still acting as a
setup man and so on and so forth. He's been great. Uh.
Steven Okert's been Okay, He's given up a couple runs
this month, but overall he's been He's been a little
bit more reliable this month than he was last month. Uh.
Brian King kind of the same thing, an ERA of
four to twenty six. Really only two innings or two
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outings he gave up runs and all the other ones
have been scoreless. Benett's SUSA kind of the same thing.
You know, all these guys kind of fit the same category.
Era's around four for the month. They've had some good outings,
have had some bad outings, and then in the same
thing with cayleb Bord, you know, one or two bad outings,
but overall's been good. But Sean Duban, I mean, my
guy who had what like the month of May and
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June had in the array of sub two was awesome.
Since coming back from injury, his last couple of outings
in the last two weeks have been god awful where
he's given up four earned, three earned, four earned. You
could bind that with the revival tour of Taylor Scott,
which went sideways very quickly on Monday. Many they're looking
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for arms because I think a lot of the guys
you've been using all year are getting taxed. You know,
you don't have you know, Josh Hater now as a
lockdown closer, and they're looking for inning eaters because what's
happening is you're getting you know, whether it's Javier sickness,
whether it's Arrogetty not being able to give a quality start,
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and then Fromber with all his ills, you're having a
lean on some arms, eat up innings and it's just
I think it's taxing on everybody right now.
Speaker 2 (08:36):
Yeah, it's very charitable of the Astros offense when they
don't score runs on the road. You only have to
cover eight innings, so you got Fromer for five, Dubin,
Della Sentos, and Van Why for the others. So you're
all good saving the bullpen. You don't have to get
Chans McCormick out there all the time. But yeah, I
obviously I'm joking. It's just it's frustrating, and I think
it is kind of dog days with guys you talked about,
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you know, Sean Dubin. We loved what he was doing
the first couple of months, and he did have a
scoreless inning today, but it's also like, what is his
major league track record? It's not great, same thing for
Aniel Della Santo, Steven Oak or Brian King, Like I mean,
branking very basically is virtually no major league track record
before the last couple of years with the Houston Astros.
So we can love these unproven guys and we do
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out of the bullpen when they have seven, eight, ten
good appearances, but the wheels can come off. The season
is taxing. You've got a lot of guys who haven't
had a ton of appearances, either you know, in their
major league careers or just period as major leaguers don't
have a lot of appearances that you are going to
have to depend on down the stretch here in an
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important American League West race, and you're down that arm
with Josh Hater, who we know right now at the
very least is out for the rest of the regular season.
Speaker 3 (09:52):
The a guy who spent a good portion of this
season with the Space Cowboys, the Astros brought up to
the Bigs in WEMS and that was not good. Well,
they released him and he cleared waivers and so today
was outrighted back to Triple A sugar Land. So you
know that's happen with a couple of guys or us
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where they've they've released and had not one day team
in the league said do we want that guy? And
they end up back in sugar Land. So that kind
of speaks still a little bit of where they are.
But yeah, I mean, I think before we get onto
the offense and some good news that could be coming
for the offense, you know, mccullors is gonna go Saturday.
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You hope that I'm sorry on Friday, you hope that
he gives you a good one, and then it's Javier
Saturday and Arraghetty Sunday. I mean, this is this is
a rotation of at least mccullor's and Xavier three years ago.
We're part of your World Series team, and so you know,
it's like you really need Javier and mccullors to get
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back to being what they were. Uh it's wild though,
looking at Jason Alexander going Thursday night and thinking he
gives us our best chance to win. I mean, it's
it's nuts.
Speaker 2 (11:06):
Yeah, it's man, it is just what Robert Fort said.
Everything that could go wrong is going wrong. You're in
the middle of August. You want, in a perfect world,
Christian Javier to have all the leeway and leash to
kind of find his way back because we know when
he's at his best, he's close to ace level. I mean,
he's been a part of multiple no hitters now multiple
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pitcher no hitters, but he got to start in multiple ones.
Lance mccullors Junior. We've seen him have that good start
at Dodger Stadium. We've seen him have three or four
quality starts this year, but we've also seen where he
falls apart. He can't fall, he can't get out. He's
walking guys, And this is what you can ill afford
with the bullpen. At the state of what we talked about,
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you add it all up, it's just it's a bad elixir.
It's bad where guys are just coming off to injuries.
They're trying to figure it out. Maybe they're pushing themselves
further than they should because they are. This whole entire
pitching staff is stressed, and it's just not the ideal
situation to have all these guys coming back while you're
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down in arm while you're yoyoing guys up and down
from triple A. Like you said, Jordan Wims, I mean
Taylor Scott was on this roster a couple of days
ago then he got dfayed. I mean, they are just
rolling through taping this together. Would would not even duct tape.
They're using like value brand Scotch tape with this stuff
right now, and it's it's it's unraveling a bit. And
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then we haven't even really talked about. No matter how
good the pitching staff would have been in the last
four of the last six games, they wouldn't have won
because they scored zero runs.
Speaker 3 (12:45):
Right, Well, that's the other part of it. And thankfully
the scoreless streak ended at thirty one innings on Wednesday,
when Mauricio Dubon, of all people, hit a two run Homer.
Dubon not known for his home run prowess, but thankfully
he was able to get that done.
Speaker 2 (13:03):
Uh.
Speaker 3 (13:03):
You know, look, everybody's been struggling in this lineup. As
of Waite, Hazu Sanchez was in an OH for twenty
seven slump. I don't know if he added to that
or not, but uh, at one point on Wednesday he
was in an OH for twenty seven slump. This uh's today? Yeah, yeah,
three strikeouts this lineup. I mean, you know, Jeremy Pinya
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had a hit. He still hit over three hundred. You know,
Korea feels like that. It's a hit every night, but
it's like a one for three or one for four,
and it's like, well the double play right behind it
exactly exactly. So you know, Al Twovey has been in
a funk. Christian Walker another OH for four to two
strikeout day, but Jesus Sanchez, I mean it's three hit,
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three strikeouts on Wednesday, it's he's just not seeing it.
And then Yaner Diaz is like, either he's getting you
two or three hits and awesome, or he's getting an
o for with three strikeouts. Like it's it's it's one
extreme of the other with yan Ordaz like that's just
kind of what he gives you, you know. But but
the whole rest of the crew, I mean, Cam Smith,
it feels like Kadn had a He's had one big
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hit in the last month. You know, Chas McCormick's don't
done nothing. Du Bond's largely done nothing. Taylor Tremmeel, poor
Jacob Melton. I mean that average dips every every time
he goes out there. Earlier in the week he was
at like two hundred, then it was one ninety, then
it was one eighty. Now it's at one seventy. I mean,
it just keeps dipping, dipping, dipping. I just look at
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this lineup Ross and go, I don't know how this
is going to change other than the big man expected
to come back sometime in the next week.
Speaker 2 (14:34):
That's gonna have to help.
Speaker 3 (14:35):
Uh.
Speaker 2 (14:35):
You mentioned Cam Smith. Here's his last three months at
the plate. June July August eight forty nine ops, five
sixty three, four seventy two. He is going through it.
It is getting worse and worse for him, and it's
not really his fault. He's a rookie who has been,
you know, pushed through as as a major leaguer without
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a whole lot of experience in the minor leagues, and
with the the Rock and the Astros, looking for a
lightning in a bottle, and unfortunately the long season is
wearing on him. And mentioned your Diaz and Christian Walker.
We're just gonna have to at some point chalk it
up to like, yeah, we're seeing flashes here and there
and here and there, and then this is maybe just
who they are, inconsistency, and the flashes are not necessarily
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reasons to get excited, but things that you just take
and say, Okay, we'll take that. We're cool. We're just
not gonna keep our expectations up that something is gonna turn.
That's just kind of where I am right now. And
you know, maybe I'm overreacting to a five to six
game stretch, but it's just it's just not feeling good.
I can't give you a tons of reasons for optimism.
They're gonna hit at some point, and maybe they explode
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for a bunch of runs against the Orioles this weekend,
and that's you know, that'd be a good time to
do it, because they continue to not lose ground. But
I'm just not feeling great about what they are. But
as you said, Jordon looms large. So if I can
hopefully be proven wrong, these guys, some of them to
some degree, turned it around. Korea can be good enough.
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Al Tuove good enough. Jeremy Penney continues his excellent season.
You can get enough hitting, but then I still all
these question marks about the pitching. How we feeling about
the next time Fromerveldez goes out there, we're gonna be
on pins and needles.
Speaker 3 (16:18):
Well, and back to the lineup real quick. There's two
guys I hate to pick on here, but you know,
Christian Walker has not been the Christian Walker you thought
you were signing in the off season. You know, we
see flashes every now and then. He still hits the
occasional home run. He's got sixteen, but man, we're about
to head in the backstretch of the season. This is
a guy who had thirty six hit twenty twenty two,
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thirty three homers in twenty twenty three. You know, even
you know, not the greatest average guy, but still hit,
you know, in the two fifties basically much of his career,
you know, but right now it's it's in the two thirties,
and you know, there's a lot of whiffs. One hundred
and thirty four strikeouts already this season that that surpasses
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his total from last year in one hundred and thirty
games with Arizona. So Jesus, I mean, it's it's bad, man, Like,
it's magnified if everybody else were in the line, Like
there was that stretch in Midsummer russ when you had
Painya and you had Jake Myers and everybody was doing
her thing. We didn't talk much about Christian Walker. We
knew he was underachieving, but it didn't come up because
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we kind of are like, all right, well, everybody else
is doing her thing, but it's magnified when everyone else
isn't hitting, and we're like, wait a minute, you're one
of our highest paid players. You're supposed to be producing.
And then the other one is Heyzu Sanchez And I
hate to pick on him, but he was this big
acquisition at the at the deadline that you know, they said,
you know, oh we got to get a left handed back,
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we got a left handed bat. Well, you got a
left handed back. But it's not a good one. I
mean it's a guy whose career that's two forty you know,
four to twenty slugging. I mean, it just kind of
is what it is. And he's below all those averages
right now in an astrosim a little bit of a
small sample size. A get it only played about twenty games,
But I like that guy, like that's supposed to be
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the savior like this, and they got him batting like
clean up one night. I'm like, he's not a good
hitter like this. The guy should be batting a down
in your order.
Speaker 2 (18:17):
He'd been very good against righty's and I think, yeah,
everybody was upset that he was batting clean up ahead
of uh, Christian Walker because he was like on a
zero for twenty one and Sanchez was but Christian Walker
was like on a one for fifteen, and he did
end up getting a couple of hits that night. But yeah,
it's it's also that the spotty doesn't have a whole
lot of work with You're like Okay, he shouldn't be batting.
Speaker 3 (18:36):
Clean up. We who you won in there?
Speaker 2 (18:36):
You Heiner Diaz had been good, Christian Walker had been good.
You're certainly not gonna put you know, Chas McCormick or
camp Smith or anybody else. It's like this lineup. When
they first after the trade deadline, we were like, man,
look at this, look at the link to this lineup.
You can get Jordan bag is gonna be one of the
best lineups in baseball. And it's funny the ebbs and
flows of one hundred and sixty two game season. Literally
a couple of weeks later, we're like, this lineup blows.
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They got no shot and obviously somewhere in between.
Speaker 3 (19:02):
Yeah, I mean again, I go back to Jordon coming back.
At least that's a that's the threat of a bat,
it's the threat of power. I don't I wouldn't expect.
Speaker 2 (19:11):
There's no guarantee he's gonna be in a good Yeah,
there's no guarantee that he's not playing through some sort
of hand pain and he's not gonna be good. I
mean that that's very possible.
Speaker 3 (19:18):
But at least there's a threat with L two ve Coorea,
Jordon you know, you get some semblance of the dangerous
lineup of the Astros and again, you know, I look,
we're very much in the moment right now. Ross like
they go through stretches like this fourth fourth of July weekend,
we were saying, this team, this seems got a chance
to win it all, you know what I mean, Like that's.
Speaker 2 (19:39):
Yeah, that's when they swept. They swept. The Dodgers were
like this, this is over hand them the American League Bennet.
Speaker 3 (19:44):
Yeah, so you know, we may just this may be
their low point of the season where we're looking and going, gosh,
this looks awful. I better be. But but the good
news is Seattle has been helping you. Seattle has been
on a skid as well, and us the Al West race,
you still remain a game and a half up. And
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the other thing is too the Rangers suck too. Like
in any other season, the Rangers would be nipping at
your heels going, oh, look at this Seattle. And you
know Asters have lost four in a row. Seattle's lost
five in a row. Well, the Rangers have lost eight
of their last ten, so even they've fallen back. I mean, heck,
the Angels are only a game and a half behind
the eight, the Rangers going, hey, we're still alive in
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this thing. So yeah, look, the AL West is turned
out to be a terrible division. But thankfully for the Astros,
that's a good thing because even despite all your warts
and your problems you've had the last few weeks, you
were still very much alive in winning this division.
Speaker 2 (20:42):
Yeah, that's the blessing right now. But no matter what happens,
they can't continue to play like this. Even if Seattle
falls completely off the earth, which I don't think they're
gonna do. I think they're gonna rally and get better.
Astros have to do the same. But you know, the
aspirations in Houston, Texas, the bar that they set because
of how great they've been isn't just to make the playoffs.
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It's to make the playoffs, and it's to win some games.
It's to the minimum, make an ALCS and hopefully make
another World Series. And they don't look anywhere close to
a World Series team right now. As you said, things
can turn. It's up and down, ebbs and flows, all
that good stuff, and that's the nature of a one
hundred and sixty two game season. But this is the
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This is definitely well. I'd like to see this be
the lowest valley that they can hit this year. Otherwise
they're gonna be in huge trouble.
Speaker 3 (21:29):
Well, as we wrap up here, ross Astro's going to
Baltimore four game set, and man, they are going to
see what Brandon Young, who just nearly threw a no
hitter against them a week ago. They're gonna see Dean Kramer,
who with lights out against them on Sunday. You know,
maybe familiarity, maybe scouting report. You look at it and go, oh,
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we just saw these guys good.
Speaker 2 (21:52):
Just win three out of four. Man, that's what I want. Honestly,
I know you know what I'm gonna lie. I'm not
gonna lie.
Speaker 3 (21:58):
I've split.
Speaker 2 (21:59):
Wouldn't even make me happy. I need to see them
win this series. It's very important to me.
Speaker 3 (22:03):
Yeah, it's again a split when it least gets you
back into the al right, where we won some games
and we're feeling okay, because think about it. After that,
you come home and it's the Rockies and the Angels.
You can get the Yankees after that, but at least
seven games with the Rockies and Angels. If you can't
feel good about yourself in that stretch. I don't know
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what what will. So again, we can dip our cap
and say Detroit's a really good team losing to them,
there's no shame in that. But yeah, we can't have
any more skunkers where you're getting shut out. I mean
that's just inexcusable at this point.
Speaker 2 (22:40):
Yeah, it's let's just flush this one. That's what Joe
Spott has been saying. Flushes one flushes, one flushes, one
flushes one. Yeah, he was even kind of getting a
little sideways Brian mctagger like, yeah, I'm gonna flush this
with too, Brian like.
Speaker 3 (22:54):
It's getting bad.
Speaker 2 (22:55):
Man, Well, I just for everyone's mental health sake. Like
you know, Matt and I interview on Tuesdays, They're like,
what do we even ask this guy?
Speaker 3 (23:02):
Man?
Speaker 2 (23:02):
Like, obviously everything's terrible, but you know, he talked. He
was very honest about the approaches at the plate, how
they need to be better at taking pitches, better at
not swinging at balls outside the zone. And they all
know that and everything that we're all calling for. That
you and I could break down hitting Joe Aspata and
that staff can do a million times better than you
and I can it's just about there going out there
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doing it and executing and hopefully they'll be able.
Speaker 3 (23:25):
To do that. Oh, any more flushes, they will be
calling roto Router because they have a backup. There's been
too many flushes. We're we're asking you to conserve water here, Astros.
But let's see, Ross, I mean, the good news is,
you know, while we're watching the Astros this weekend from
our couch, we get some early games Thursday and Friday
and Saturday six pm local starts here for US Central Time,
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and then at twelve thirty start on Sunday. And well,
I got to run in the store a little bit
later to stock up on Crawford back. Make sure my
fridge is fully stocked, because man, it just goes better
when you're watching the Astros and enjoying it. I score
Crawford Bock from our friends at Carbock Brewing. Make sure
you guys do the same as we root on the Astros.
And maybe we'll look back on this moment Ross and
(24:10):
say this was the low point of the season. But hey,
at LISTA, we're having a Crawford back. We'll be filling
all right.
Speaker 2 (24:16):
Any last thoughts, No, not really, I'm happy to be
on VACAN. I'm on vacation Truth be Told starting today
for a week, and this seems like a perfect time
to get away. Hopefully they'll start winning. But I don't
even want to deal with it. I don't even want
to look at my mentions on Twitter with these people
that I've been arguing about from are with and stuff
like I need to step away. So Astros, I wish
(24:38):
you do the best. I'm taking a breather.
Speaker 3 (24:40):
Yeah, I'm telling you right now. If they lose the Friday,
that game to with Jason Alexander on the mound, Lance
mccullors stepping to the mount on Friday will have the
weight of the world on his shoulders to just just
be decent. I mean, we're not even asking to throw
a no hitter, like, just just don't get lit up,
because if he gets lit up, my gosh, the avalanche
will be coming. Well, we'll hope for the best and
(25:03):
cross our fingers and enjoy a high school Crawford Box,
but for ross fey real, I'm Chris Gordy has been
the Crawford Box Cast presented by Carbox Brewing. We'll talk
to you guys soon.
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