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Speaker 1 (00:00):
Hunter Brown, finalist for the al Cy Young and Monday
Night Football Cardinals beat the Cowboys twenty seven at seventeen
does not deter Jerry, though, as Jerry went ahead and
made a trade this morning. So good for the Cowboys.
I guess you know. Logan Wilson a massive turnaround for
the Boys, game changer. Well, he also was bumped from
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the starting lineup. Barrett Carter took over for him there
in Cincinnati. By the way, too, we'll do a look
at the shield a little bit later on some problems
in Cincinnati.
Speaker 2 (00:33):
Man, you.
Speaker 1 (00:35):
Got offensive players now going after the defensive guys, and
I think there's a little bit of a Texans tie
in there.
Speaker 3 (00:41):
I worry about the Joe Burrow thing because this is
now two significant injuries he has suffered in his career.
Speaker 4 (00:47):
Is he heading down the Derrick Rose path?
Speaker 2 (00:50):
Oh, don't say that. Don't say that what could have been?
I don't ever want to think that.
Speaker 1 (00:55):
I want to always remember number nine as being larger
than life, because because he is, at least for twenty nineteen,
I will always think of the man as being larger
than life.
Speaker 3 (01:06):
The other thing we have to talk about, too, is, oh,
remember after the rookie seasons, the other a few years ago.
Will we just crowned c J. Stroud the next coming
and Bryce Young? Bust? Bryce Young and the Panthers five
and four. Look, his numbers aren't great this year, but
I'm just saying, color me up a world where Bryce
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Young goes on a deep playoff world run this year
with the Panthers and cut and the Texans missed the playoffs.
Speaker 2 (01:35):
Well, the second part we.
Speaker 4 (01:36):
Start to evaluate him a little bit differently.
Speaker 2 (01:39):
The first part is not going to happen.
Speaker 4 (01:42):
I'm just saying, that's all. I'm just saying.
Speaker 2 (01:44):
Oh, look, you know, just saying is one thing he
does doing is another.
Speaker 3 (01:50):
Eleven touchdowns, six interceptions. Still not a great ratio for
brol Breck's Young, but good, good for him, good, good, good,
good for Bryce Young. I'm just saying he's starting to
have some success now. So like the whole narrative was
all bust total, but we're so quick to just go bust.
Speaker 4 (02:05):
Okay, let's wait and see.
Speaker 3 (02:07):
Daniel Jones was a bust New York different player in Indianapolis, and.
Speaker 2 (02:12):
He's still cheeks.
Speaker 3 (02:14):
Maybe Brian Shan would be better somewhere else. Could you
see him, like his deals up with Carolina, They go, ah,
we'll let you go. He ends up with like San
Fran or the Rams. Yeah, like somewhere with a really
good He.
Speaker 1 (02:26):
Goes to play for Emilio Estavez, and uh, that's every
time I hear Sean McVay talk, I think Emilio is
not that he sounds exactly like Emilio Estevez. I feel
like I'm listening to Gordon Bombay whenever he's up there.
Speaker 2 (02:39):
What a rams? Do rams fly together?
Speaker 4 (02:43):
That?
Speaker 2 (02:43):
That doesn't exactly work, Coach, Were you.
Speaker 4 (02:46):
Gonna get to a Texans sound again?
Speaker 3 (02:48):
Oh?
Speaker 2 (02:48):
Well, we'll do the Texans sound a little bit later.
But I want to wait.
Speaker 1 (02:51):
Wait you teased earlier he said the seven o'clock hour
go to former astro be on their way back.
Speaker 3 (02:57):
It's from Jeff Jeff passing yesterday. So yes was kind
of like the day he started to see a lot
of guys opt in or opt out. Boston Red Sox
third baseman Alex Bregman has opted out of his contract,
sources tell ESPN.
Speaker 2 (03:11):
And do you guys see the rage against the machine
behind me? I am such a cool guy. You're not, Jeff,
But that's okay, not.
Speaker 4 (03:19):
The craziest news.
Speaker 3 (03:21):
I mean, because because we thought, you know, look, when
Bregman signed the deal with Boston, it was more to
protect if he were to get hurt this year. Like,
had he gotten hurt this year, he would have had
the option to Okay, I can opt in and I
covered my ass for the next few years to stay
in Boston, or if he had bought him out, if
his numbers had just totally sucked this year and all that,
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it was a simple easy okay, Well I've covered my butt. Well,
he will return to free agency, officially, leaving the final
two years eighty million dollars of the deal he signed
with Boston on the table, including forty million in deferred money.
So he's a free agent. He can go where he wants.
I've seen some Astros fans running to, oh my god,
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he could come back. We can get him back.
Speaker 4 (04:07):
Yeah, I don't think that's gonna happen.
Speaker 2 (04:09):
Now.
Speaker 4 (04:09):
The whole reason he opted out of this is to
get more money.
Speaker 2 (04:13):
He opted or it's not even the Breakman part.
Speaker 1 (04:16):
I'm jumping ahead of myself here, but the Astros have
three guys that you would like to play in two positions.
Because actually I even think you've got two that are
trying to maybe fit into one. Because Carlos Korea, in
my mind, is your third basement. I'm not moving him
off third base. I've got a way to be able
to prolong his career. I've got a way to be
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able to keep him healthier. And he took the third base.
It worked out incredibly well. Now the question for the
Astros is going to be what happens with Christian Walker?
Do you have a taker that is going to take
on two years forty million with him?
Speaker 4 (04:49):
I don't think so. Why ask yourself why if you're
a team, why.
Speaker 1 (04:53):
Salary salary dump for the Astros pick up? But the
problem is, I think it would almost be a wash.
Like one that I've seen as a possibility is the
Phillies and Taiwan Walker again trade for a starter, middle
of the rotation guy, probably even back into the rotation guy.
Speaker 2 (05:13):
A lot of money.
Speaker 3 (05:15):
Oh so there, but he's he's on a he's on
the last year. If it's still there, he's on a
one year, eighteen million dollars deal.
Speaker 1 (05:22):
Basically, Okay, I mean so then basically the money would
would you're talking about.
Speaker 4 (05:26):
Differ for this year?
Speaker 3 (05:27):
But they have to pay Christian Walker twenty million for
a whole another year, why would they do that?
Speaker 1 (05:31):
Then it's a walk here after that, I mean you're
going into it. It's a sunk cost at that point.
I just again, that's a bad trade for Philly. I
don't know why you would do that. Well, this is
where it.
Speaker 4 (05:41):
Just becomes like you're the Astros.
Speaker 3 (05:42):
You have to live with this, and then the other
part of his Christian Walker could wake up tomorrow and
look like the guy that he was for the prior
decade of his career.
Speaker 1 (05:50):
Well, but if he's looking like the guy that was
the prior decade of his career, we're still talking about
a guy. It's about a two fifty hitter. So I
mean you're not talking about but you need the whole
run power.
Speaker 3 (05:59):
I mean, that's that's the react got the home run power.
He was your leading home run and RBI guy this year.
Barely he like hit it the last week of the season.
He had a couple of meetingless barely still get you there,
barely was still there. I just I need thirty plus
home runs from him in.
Speaker 1 (06:15):
This line ideally, yes, But I mean at the same time, though, too,
you still had a guy that was at least that
wise productive for you. He was the most productive on
your team. So I mean there is that. The other
part of it too, is you mentioned Dana Brown gonna
have to be very very busy this week, and he's
got a lot of guys that funny enough.
Speaker 2 (06:35):
You know you're thinking to yourself, sixty.
Speaker 1 (06:37):
Day il oh, well you know then the season's over,
So what does it matter? Na?
Speaker 3 (06:40):
Right, Well, follow me down this path real quick, Christian Walker.
Speaker 4 (06:44):
You have do my best.
Speaker 3 (06:46):
Uh, Christian Walker, Let's say you get no takers. You've
called some teams about trying to trade the contract. Nobody
wants it, So what do you do? You're paying him
twenty million dollars this coming season, twenty million dollars year after.
Speaker 4 (07:00):
He's one of your highest paid players on the books.
Speaker 1 (07:02):
If you're paying Christian Walker, he's playing. He's here like
you're not. You're not doing the sunk costing. Isn't Well,
it's not only that you're not pulling the plug. This
isn't a jose A Bray you situation. Jose A Bray
was unplayable. There's a major difference Christian Walker. For everything
that I just mentioned, batting average and all the other
numbers not great this year, but home runs, an RBI,
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he was just fine. So there's no reason to move
on from that part of it. So here is what
Channeler Rome said. The players that you basically needed, that
are coming off the il, that you needed to make
decisions on.
Speaker 3 (07:36):
You just I'll say the name. You just tell me
what you think. Do you cut him, do you try
to trade him? Or is he on the big league?
The forty man I can play pedro Leon, let him run? Yeah,
I think I think it's come the legend of pedro Leon.
How old is he now? He is He's getting up
there in age it is pedro Leon will be playing
for the Pirates or he is twenty seven going on
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twenty eighth this year. I am good on moving on
from here.
Speaker 1 (08:00):
You know what, Actually, I'm gonna admend that pedro Leone
will play for the Rays and then people will be like,
how did you let that guy go? Because he'll all
of a sudden become damn near an All Star with
the Rays.
Speaker 4 (08:09):
I'll let him go.
Speaker 3 (08:10):
If you can trade him for a lower prospect or money, fine,
Zach Dezenzo keep him. I like Zach I think you
put him on the forty. I I just I think
there's something there.
Speaker 1 (08:21):
And and I think you almost kind of feel like
you were robbed of a season with him, like you
didn't really get to see what you have out of him,
so that that would be judging a book too quickly.
Speaker 3 (08:30):
Yes, how about him, Luis Garcia. This is the tough
part because he's a fan favorite. He is he's gonna
miss all next.
Speaker 1 (08:41):
Year and this could be famous last words, but I
feel like you have enough pitching.
Speaker 2 (08:45):
You're not gonna have him this year anyway.
Speaker 1 (08:47):
But I think miss was the last year of arbitration,
so I think this could be very much a.
Speaker 3 (08:54):
Arkaty arkaty situation. We know you're gonna miss the year,
We're just gonna go and let you go.
Speaker 2 (08:59):
Now, there you go.
Speaker 4 (09:00):
That sucks. Rock the baby, come on.
Speaker 1 (09:02):
I mean, once the pitch clock came along, he couldn't
do that anymore. But I think that's the st he
lost his thing. I think long term injury. You cut
him Rooney. I'm fine on. I know that somebody told
me at the end of the year all Ed Rooney,
John Rooney or is that the band Rooney?
Speaker 3 (09:18):
I remember them telling me, Oh, they like John Roonney, Okay,
but he's twenty nine. I don't know if I don't
know if I want to put him on that funny Man.
Speaker 1 (09:25):
They like John Rooney, you don't know enough about him
to like him.
Speaker 3 (09:30):
The other one's become so Brandon Walter. Obviously, I think
he's gonna miss all next year. Right with the timing
of when his Tommy John took place.
Speaker 1 (09:38):
Yeah, I mean, because it was a little bit later
in the season. I think you can find about five
Brandon Walters.
Speaker 4 (09:45):
Caleb Ort.
Speaker 1 (09:48):
Now that one's a little I mean because he almost
took on that film Matson roll last year and you
even had to use him in high leverage and he
was good. I mean, I guess we'll wait and see
what his injury situation is. But I guess if you're
up against it, you probably let them walk. Yeah, but
I don't think that they're necessarily gonna be up against it,
and you probably get them at a cheap enough value,
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So I say keep Ort.
Speaker 3 (10:10):
And then the last two are Ronel Blanca and Hayden Wiznsky,
and I don't think either of them are going anywhere.
No now, they're gonna miss half the year at least
coming back from Tommy John, we'll see where they are. So,
like Taylor said, you got thirty seven, you need to
get to a forty man, and these eight guys have
to You have to make decisions. So you've already decided
we get rid of Leon, we get rid of Garcia.
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I guess we're getting rid of Rooney. And so now
you've got If and Walter. If was an Eski, Yeah,
if it was an Eski, and Blanca are going on.
If we're keeping them, then you have to choose one
between Ort to Zenzo and Rooney. Like you only got
one one spot left, and I think they would go
with Ort to have the extra reliever.
Speaker 2 (10:50):
Probably went over to Zenzo.
Speaker 3 (10:53):
Yeah wow, I mean this is a numbers game. This
is this is the numbers game you get into.
Speaker 4 (10:57):
I mean, I guess Enzo somebody said Dezenzo has no
path to playing time.
Speaker 1 (11:00):
Soon, and that's and that's where where I was going,
is it. It seems like you know, he'd be pretty
blocked here, so maybe you've got some trade value there.
Speaker 2 (11:08):
As a possibility.
Speaker 1 (11:10):
But I mean I just with or though, like I
for all the good things I said about him, I mean,
if it comes to that, I'm picking to Zenzo because
I just feel like there's more value out of giving.
Speaker 2 (11:21):
Right.
Speaker 1 (11:22):
And I mean I can find Caleb ort but where
you're not worried about finding Caleb Orton?
Speaker 4 (11:25):
Where's his path to the field?
Speaker 3 (11:27):
When you talk about Walker first, a'll two bight second,
short career at third. That's why that's why I explore
trade opportunities for him. I mean, look, you know I
was talking about you maybe do a salary dump with
with Christian Walker. You're kicking a guy like Zach Dezenzo.
I think that you probably get teams to listen a
little bit more. Here's the other thing with ort what's
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the latest on is Josh Haterer gonna be ready for
the start of season?
Speaker 2 (11:52):
Anybody's guess, I guess the scared I guess.
Speaker 1 (11:54):
I guess we'll find out what fan fest here in
a couple of months. You can ask Nana, Hey, Josh Ader, Yeah,
he's been throwing. You know, he's looking good. You always
know that Diana's got to start off his answer that way. Yeah, meanwhile,
the season eight or not available? Yeah, he's day to day, No,
I know, Yeah, he's still a no throw, right, now,
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oh great, that's that's awesome. Yeah, but what we expect
them to be ready for opening day? Yeah, I'm sure
you do. All right, let's get in a little bit
of Texans because no shortyarded situations. Oh, Dimko talked about
that as well, and uh also that last drive of
the game. And we've talked about a lot and we'll
continue to talk about a lot because it seriously is
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the question the hell you're thinking. We'll discuss that right
here and let you hear from Dimico Ryans as we
continue on a Teano Tuesday right here, seven ninety Morning
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