October 21, 2025 • 11 mins
With Week 7 in the NFL officially completed following Monday night's doubleheader between the Lions and Bucs, the Texans closed the week by taking on the Seattle Seahawks in a late kickoff yesterday, with the final score of 27-19. Reviewing last night's horrific loss, unable to score offensively amongst a few other struggles, Dan and Chris take a moment to evaluate some things the Texans must clean up regarding production and pose the question, was Nick Caley the right coach to pick this offseason?
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Speaker 1 (00:00):
You got eleven games left in the season.
Speaker 2 (00:01):
It's not looking good now, but I mean it's we'll
have those conversations later on.
Speaker 1 (00:06):
And yes, I mean fully you know aware that I think.
Speaker 3 (00:09):
They'll get a long term deal done with him. I
don't think you're tag them well.
Speaker 1 (00:12):
I mean, that's the thing.
Speaker 2 (00:13):
But that's the other thing that kind of underscores this
offseason is, you know, what was one of the things
we heard after last season. We heard, well, you know,
we had some undisciplined play. We've got to clean that up.
And then you know, some of those guys that fed
into that undisciplined play aren't here, but you still have it.
Speaker 1 (00:29):
I mean, you still have the penalties that cost you
on drives.
Speaker 2 (00:32):
I mean again I mentioned the the an eligible man
downfield that wipes out the past interference. I mean, that's
that's an opportunity for you to get positive yardage there,
he wiped that out.
Speaker 4 (00:42):
I'm looking at will Anderston Jerry twenty two tackles in
the season, four sacks, a force fumble, a fumble recovery,
a fumble recovered for a touchdown. I mean, he's filling
up the stat sheet and I'm just like, I'm looking
the stats, and the one that I keep going back
to is CJ stre thirteen hundred yards passing, completing sixty
(01:04):
four percent of your passes, average, six point eight yards
per completion, averaged, two hundred and seventeen yards passing a game,
nine touchdowns, four interceptions, sacked fifteen times. That's like, just
looking at his numbers, if you took the name away,
I would go, oh, that must be a stat line
of Geno Smith. Oh that must be a stat line
(01:26):
of I wouldn't even say Sam Darnold because he's kind
of elevated himself better than that.
Speaker 3 (01:31):
But like, CJ. Stroud is just a dude.
Speaker 4 (01:34):
Now, I'm sorry, he's not like and the offensive line
is to blame, yes, but a lot of this is
on CJ, and lots on the OC, but a lot
of this is on CJ. And I think we got
duped his rookie year. We thought this dude is special
and last year in this year, jag no just a guy.
Speaker 2 (01:54):
And I get what you're saying, because yes, I mean
I see what the stats are and what he was
early on in the game. I almost feel like there
was a point in that game last night where CJ
kind of said, you know what, screw it, I'm just
gonna let it all hang out. I know I'm gonna
get hit, but I'm gonna stand all my throws. I'll
roll out, I'll make throws on the run.
Speaker 3 (02:13):
I think it.
Speaker 2 (02:15):
But I mean, but that's the thing, though, is I
think that's something finally snapped for him where he just said,
I'm not gonna play scared anymore.
Speaker 4 (02:21):
And that was nice to see you against Baltimore, but
that was the only game they've done it all year.
Speaker 2 (02:26):
But I mean, when you have no offensive line, you
have no run game whatever whatsoever to be able.
Speaker 1 (02:30):
To speak of.
Speaker 2 (02:32):
And then I mean, aside from really Nico Collins and
Dalton Schultz, anybody that you can really count on in
the past game.
Speaker 1 (02:39):
And I agree with what Orlowski and Riddick, by the way, were.
Speaker 2 (02:43):
They almost just besides themselves with the game that Nick
Cayley was calling last night, like they pretty much were
going out of their way to try to avoid He
looks like he is in over his head, like I mean,
how many times did you hear them? I mean on
the turnover on downs, you get stuffed on third and one,
and you get stuffed on fourth.
Speaker 1 (03:02):
And one where they're like, what are you doing? Man?
Speaker 2 (03:04):
By the way, you go back to the well the
exact same thing that you just did. Back to the
Cole Popovich thing real quick. Not only is he your
O line offensive line coach is a guy that was
on your staff last year that had one of the
worst offensive lines you've ever had last year. He is
the he was retained. He's the offensive line coach, and
(03:25):
he's also the offensive run game coordinator. Might remind you
you ran the ball seventeen times last night for fifty
six yards three yards per attempt, three yards per carry
rather no rushing touchdowns long of fifteen and now is CJ.
Speaker 3 (03:39):
Stroud?
Speaker 1 (03:40):
How's that working out for you?
Speaker 4 (03:42):
No run game? Nick Chubb five carries sixteen yards? What
he marks ten carries fifteen yards? But what got him
the job? Who did you work with in New England?
Don day Scarnaki?
Speaker 3 (03:53):
Oh yeah.
Speaker 4 (03:53):
First, if you go to his bio, Cole Popovich atters
his first season. It is the on line coach and
run game coordinator for the Texans after spending two seasons
as a team's assistant online coach. He's got fourteen years
of coaching experience, including six seasons with the New England
Patriots where he won two Super Bowls. How much input
did you have into those two super Bowls? That's what
(04:16):
always love is this, Like you bring over these dudes.
Oh he was in New England.
Speaker 1 (04:19):
What do you do?
Speaker 3 (04:20):
Well?
Speaker 4 (04:20):
He he was the he carried around a ring of
keys on the Patriots super Bowl teams, Like.
Speaker 3 (04:25):
What did you do?
Speaker 4 (04:25):
Exactly? Yeah, he mopped up the vomit. But I'll tell
you he was part of it, a super Bowl organization.
Speaker 1 (04:30):
He's got the rings.
Speaker 4 (04:31):
It's like, good god, man. I mean, you get somebody
who actually had some input. It's like they had so
many scouts in those rooms and all that. It's like, oh,
Nick Saro's in the room. Yeah, with like twelve other scouts.
Like it's not like he was the one responsible for
all their success.
Speaker 2 (04:45):
Having Tom Brady was the Patriots. It was the Brady
I mean, and.
Speaker 1 (04:51):
You saw it play out even in Tampa Bay too.
I Mean, I'm not.
Speaker 4 (04:54):
Trying to disparates he's had. He's had some good years
here and he's made some great No.
Speaker 2 (04:59):
He after this offseason because you absolutely swung and missed
on three fronts. You swung and miss offensive coordinator. You
swung and missed offensive line coach, and you swung and
missed on the area of the team that absolutely should
have been a no brainer that you try to improve
and miss me with the whole Oh we had interest,
Oh we tried all of those things. Your fan base
doesn't want to hear that. Your fan base wants to
(05:20):
hear that you delivered. Your fan base wants to hear
that you were able to get those guys here. Joe
Toney should not be playing for the Chicago Bears. Joe
Toney should be playing for the Houston Texans. And guess what.
Guess what the price of business sometimes is doing overpaying,
not going and getting Lake and Tomlinson and not going
and getting even though he's played well at Ingram.
Speaker 4 (05:40):
Well, they tried to be cheap because they've got so
much money investing in other spots. They were like, we
can get away being cheap on the old line.
Speaker 3 (05:47):
Let's do it.
Speaker 1 (05:47):
You don't have a rookie quarterback. This is when you're
a reckless with your spending. This is it?
Speaker 3 (05:55):
Oh you mean like On on his rookie deal.
Speaker 1 (05:57):
Yeah, this is when you do it. This is when
you take your chances.
Speaker 4 (06:01):
Let me ask you this, was there the right decision
to go with a second in a row, first time
offense cornator, Like you went from Bobby Slowick, who was
a first time offensive coinnator to Nick Cayley, first time offensive.
Speaker 1 (06:15):
What are the first six games?
Speaker 4 (06:16):
Told you, yeah, I almost look at it as and
this WEX made a big deal out of this when
when Dimiko first got hired, was okay, you're going with it.
Speaker 3 (06:25):
Demiko rans a first time head coach.
Speaker 4 (06:28):
This is a scenario where you go get the savvy
fifteen year vet oc who's called a ton of plays,
who knows how to run an offense. You put him
in because he's got experience.
Speaker 2 (06:39):
What'd you think of the Seahawks game plan last night? Offensively?
I thought they did okay.
Speaker 4 (06:44):
I mean they started turning the ball over left and right,
but they ran the ball pretty effectively. Walker, Charvon Days
and Ice will one two punch.
Speaker 2 (06:52):
And had Clint had Clint Kubiak ever called plays before? No,
he didn't call him in New Orleans last year. Oh
that's right, that's right.
Speaker 4 (07:02):
I get the two Kubiaks was the other one Clint
and Clay Clay?
Speaker 3 (07:07):
I get him confused. There's too many koubiaks.
Speaker 4 (07:12):
Yeah, they loved him, and they loved him in New
Orleans for at least the first few games when they
were undefeated.
Speaker 1 (07:18):
I mean, it's just.
Speaker 2 (07:21):
You have a guy who has all the talent in
the world is your quarterback, and honestly, you've now made
him shell shocked because how you've not protected him up front,
and also for really just how unimaginative this offense has
been with no run game whatsoever, and you bring in
basically just returning to your vomit, the same guy that
(07:43):
you had last year.
Speaker 1 (07:44):
You should have just kept Bobby Slowick.
Speaker 2 (07:46):
I mean, I understand that hindsight's twenty twenty, but you
should have just kept him.
Speaker 4 (07:49):
Yeah, you had to make a change there, but to
go with another guy who hasn't first time play caller, Like.
Speaker 1 (07:56):
That's exactly it.
Speaker 2 (07:58):
Like this is the time when you you do overspend
a little bit, and when it comes to coaches, what
does it matter?
Speaker 1 (08:04):
What does it matter?
Speaker 2 (08:05):
There's no salary cap on coaches, Like why are you
going bargain basement on this? You're gonna look back in
two years when you finally have CJ now on a
franchise deal and when you have to sign Will Anderson
Junior two, and you're going to look back and say, man,
that was a real missed opportunity. We had a chance
to do something and didn't do anything with it. And
then you're gonna have to You're gonna start to see
(08:27):
guys like Nico Collins go out the door and Daniel
Hunter go out the door because you can't keep everybody.
So I'm glad that you know, again you're well, we
trust our process in this building. I'm glad that your
process is really working out well for you because you're
gonna miss the plaoffs this year because you trusted your process.
And then this offseason, I have to believe the ownership
(08:48):
is gonna come to Nick Assario and say we've got
to spend some money.
Speaker 4 (08:53):
So Klay Kubiak is the he's first year o C
with the forty nine ers, but obviously it's Kyle Shannon offense.
He's he's run of that thing. But I'm looking around.
I mean Todd Monkin with the Ravens. Uh, you know
this guy who's been around a while, was had many
years at Georgia. Matt Naggy with the Chiefs. No, but
again he's he's part of it's Patrick Mahomes. So a
(09:15):
lot of these guys look good because of who their
quarterbacks are. Like, you know, we could talk about him
as a great OC. You know, Mike Lafour with the Rams, okay,
but it's Sean mcvanney sis. So a lot of these
it's because of who the head coach is. I don't
need Matt Naggy and the character coaching here. Joe Good,
Joe Lombardy in Denver, it's Sean Payton's offense. Joe Brady
(09:36):
with the Bills probably the one that under Showan mcdermoty
like he's that's Joe Brady's offense. That's a guy that
maybe you could have thrown a ton of money in
and said, I mean, Chim Kelly's getting six million a
year with the Raiders. Maybe if you'd have thrown that
at Joe Brady, maybe he get him down to Houston.
But I mean, it's not like it's not an attractive
spot with c. J. Stroud.
Speaker 1 (09:56):
That's exactly it. As a quarter that's exactly it.
Speaker 2 (09:59):
I mean again with the offensive line question, he got
a couple of weeks ago, miss me with the we
had interest, you are the interest Cliff Kenny. That's what
the selling point is.
Speaker 4 (10:10):
Cliff Kingsbury in Washington pretty highly thought of Greg Roman
with the Chargers. I'm just looking at, you know, Arthur
Smiths with the steel Arthur Smith's getting the most out
of that Steelers offense with old ass Aaron Rodgers.
Speaker 2 (10:24):
But I just don't want them to be the head
coach team and draft a tight end eighth overall and
not use them.
Speaker 4 (10:28):
The point is, we're just looking around the league and
there's a lot of current ocs that have a lot
of skins on the wall and might have been the
better option to go instead of catch a rising star
with Nick Cayley.
Speaker 2 (10:41):
Let him go be a rising star with the I
don't know, Carolina Panthers, or with the Jacksonville Jaguars somebody else.
That's those are jobs for a quote unquote rising star.
This was not a job for a rising star. This
was not a job on the job training.
Speaker 4 (10:55):
Well Cockle tweet what was the worst part of the
Texas game last night? Every comment Nick Cayley.
Speaker 2 (11:02):
I would say, that's probably a prevailing sentiment. Roger will
get you into the conversation. We'll continue the Texans conversation
because I mean, one real bright spot from last night's
scheme that I think can still be gleaned from it,
even if it doesn't seem like it's on the surface.
We'll discuss here. It is the seven ninety morning show
Sports Talk seven ninety
You got eleven games left in the season.
Speaker 2 (00:01):
It's not looking good now, but I mean it's we'll
have those conversations later on.
Speaker 1 (00:06):
And yes, I mean fully you know aware that I think.
Speaker 3 (00:09):
They'll get a long term deal done with him. I
don't think you're tag them well.
Speaker 1 (00:12):
I mean, that's the thing.
Speaker 2 (00:13):
But that's the other thing that kind of underscores this
offseason is, you know, what was one of the things
we heard after last season. We heard, well, you know,
we had some undisciplined play. We've got to clean that up.
And then you know, some of those guys that fed
into that undisciplined play aren't here, but you still have it.
Speaker 1 (00:29):
I mean, you still have the penalties that cost you
on drives.
Speaker 2 (00:32):
I mean again I mentioned the the an eligible man
downfield that wipes out the past interference. I mean, that's
that's an opportunity for you to get positive yardage there,
he wiped that out.
Speaker 4 (00:42):
I'm looking at will Anderston Jerry twenty two tackles in
the season, four sacks, a force fumble, a fumble recovery,
a fumble recovered for a touchdown. I mean, he's filling
up the stat sheet and I'm just like, I'm looking
the stats, and the one that I keep going back
to is CJ stre thirteen hundred yards passing, completing sixty
(01:04):
four percent of your passes, average, six point eight yards
per completion, averaged, two hundred and seventeen yards passing a game,
nine touchdowns, four interceptions, sacked fifteen times. That's like, just
looking at his numbers, if you took the name away,
I would go, oh, that must be a stat line
of Geno Smith. Oh that must be a stat line
(01:26):
of I wouldn't even say Sam Darnold because he's kind
of elevated himself better than that.
Speaker 3 (01:31):
But like, CJ. Stroud is just a dude.
Speaker 4 (01:34):
Now, I'm sorry, he's not like and the offensive line
is to blame, yes, but a lot of this is
on CJ, and lots on the OC, but a lot
of this is on CJ. And I think we got
duped his rookie year. We thought this dude is special
and last year in this year, jag no just a guy.
Speaker 2 (01:54):
And I get what you're saying, because yes, I mean
I see what the stats are and what he was
early on in the game. I almost feel like there
was a point in that game last night where CJ
kind of said, you know what, screw it, I'm just
gonna let it all hang out. I know I'm gonna
get hit, but I'm gonna stand all my throws. I'll
roll out, I'll make throws on the run.
Speaker 3 (02:13):
I think it.
Speaker 2 (02:15):
But I mean, but that's the thing, though, is I
think that's something finally snapped for him where he just said,
I'm not gonna play scared anymore.
Speaker 4 (02:21):
And that was nice to see you against Baltimore, but
that was the only game they've done it all year.
Speaker 2 (02:26):
But I mean, when you have no offensive line, you
have no run game whatever whatsoever to be able.
Speaker 1 (02:30):
To speak of.
Speaker 2 (02:32):
And then I mean, aside from really Nico Collins and
Dalton Schultz, anybody that you can really count on in
the past game.
Speaker 1 (02:39):
And I agree with what Orlowski and Riddick, by the way, were.
Speaker 2 (02:43):
They almost just besides themselves with the game that Nick
Cayley was calling last night, like they pretty much were
going out of their way to try to avoid He
looks like he is in over his head, like I mean,
how many times did you hear them? I mean on
the turnover on downs, you get stuffed on third and one,
and you get stuffed on fourth.
Speaker 1 (03:02):
And one where they're like, what are you doing? Man?
Speaker 2 (03:04):
By the way, you go back to the well the
exact same thing that you just did. Back to the
Cole Popovich thing real quick. Not only is he your
O line offensive line coach is a guy that was
on your staff last year that had one of the
worst offensive lines you've ever had last year. He is
the he was retained. He's the offensive line coach, and
(03:25):
he's also the offensive run game coordinator. Might remind you
you ran the ball seventeen times last night for fifty
six yards three yards per attempt, three yards per carry
rather no rushing touchdowns long of fifteen and now is CJ.
Speaker 3 (03:39):
Stroud?
Speaker 1 (03:40):
How's that working out for you?
Speaker 4 (03:42):
No run game? Nick Chubb five carries sixteen yards? What
he marks ten carries fifteen yards? But what got him
the job? Who did you work with in New England?
Don day Scarnaki?
Speaker 3 (03:53):
Oh yeah.
Speaker 4 (03:53):
First, if you go to his bio, Cole Popovich atters
his first season. It is the on line coach and
run game coordinator for the Texans after spending two seasons
as a team's assistant online coach. He's got fourteen years
of coaching experience, including six seasons with the New England
Patriots where he won two Super Bowls. How much input
did you have into those two super Bowls? That's what
(04:16):
always love is this, Like you bring over these dudes.
Oh he was in New England.
Speaker 1 (04:19):
What do you do?
Speaker 3 (04:20):
Well?
Speaker 4 (04:20):
He he was the he carried around a ring of
keys on the Patriots super Bowl teams, Like.
Speaker 3 (04:25):
What did you do?
Speaker 4 (04:25):
Exactly? Yeah, he mopped up the vomit. But I'll tell
you he was part of it, a super Bowl organization.
Speaker 1 (04:30):
He's got the rings.
Speaker 4 (04:31):
It's like, good god, man. I mean, you get somebody
who actually had some input. It's like they had so
many scouts in those rooms and all that. It's like, oh,
Nick Saro's in the room. Yeah, with like twelve other scouts.
Like it's not like he was the one responsible for
all their success.
Speaker 2 (04:45):
Having Tom Brady was the Patriots. It was the Brady
I mean, and.
Speaker 1 (04:51):
You saw it play out even in Tampa Bay too.
I Mean, I'm not.
Speaker 4 (04:54):
Trying to disparates he's had. He's had some good years
here and he's made some great No.
Speaker 2 (04:59):
He after this offseason because you absolutely swung and missed
on three fronts. You swung and miss offensive coordinator. You
swung and missed offensive line coach, and you swung and
missed on the area of the team that absolutely should
have been a no brainer that you try to improve
and miss me with the whole Oh we had interest,
Oh we tried all of those things. Your fan base
doesn't want to hear that. Your fan base wants to
(05:20):
hear that you delivered. Your fan base wants to hear
that you were able to get those guys here. Joe
Toney should not be playing for the Chicago Bears. Joe
Toney should be playing for the Houston Texans. And guess what.
Guess what the price of business sometimes is doing overpaying,
not going and getting Lake and Tomlinson and not going
and getting even though he's played well at Ingram.
Speaker 4 (05:40):
Well, they tried to be cheap because they've got so
much money investing in other spots. They were like, we
can get away being cheap on the old line.
Speaker 3 (05:47):
Let's do it.
Speaker 1 (05:47):
You don't have a rookie quarterback. This is when you're
a reckless with your spending. This is it?
Speaker 3 (05:55):
Oh you mean like On on his rookie deal.
Speaker 1 (05:57):
Yeah, this is when you do it. This is when
you take your chances.
Speaker 4 (06:01):
Let me ask you this, was there the right decision
to go with a second in a row, first time
offense cornator, Like you went from Bobby Slowick, who was
a first time offensive coinnator to Nick Cayley, first time offensive.
Speaker 1 (06:15):
What are the first six games?
Speaker 4 (06:16):
Told you, yeah, I almost look at it as and
this WEX made a big deal out of this when
when Dimiko first got hired, was okay, you're going with it.
Speaker 3 (06:25):
Demiko rans a first time head coach.
Speaker 4 (06:28):
This is a scenario where you go get the savvy
fifteen year vet oc who's called a ton of plays,
who knows how to run an offense. You put him
in because he's got experience.
Speaker 2 (06:39):
What'd you think of the Seahawks game plan last night? Offensively?
I thought they did okay.
Speaker 4 (06:44):
I mean they started turning the ball over left and right,
but they ran the ball pretty effectively. Walker, Charvon Days
and Ice will one two punch.
Speaker 2 (06:52):
And had Clint had Clint Kubiak ever called plays before? No,
he didn't call him in New Orleans last year. Oh
that's right, that's right.
Speaker 4 (07:02):
I get the two Kubiaks was the other one Clint
and Clay Clay?
Speaker 3 (07:07):
I get him confused. There's too many koubiaks.
Speaker 4 (07:12):
Yeah, they loved him, and they loved him in New
Orleans for at least the first few games when they
were undefeated.
Speaker 1 (07:18):
I mean, it's just.
Speaker 2 (07:21):
You have a guy who has all the talent in
the world is your quarterback, and honestly, you've now made
him shell shocked because how you've not protected him up front,
and also for really just how unimaginative this offense has
been with no run game whatsoever, and you bring in
basically just returning to your vomit, the same guy that
(07:43):
you had last year.
Speaker 1 (07:44):
You should have just kept Bobby Slowick.
Speaker 2 (07:46):
I mean, I understand that hindsight's twenty twenty, but you
should have just kept him.
Speaker 4 (07:49):
Yeah, you had to make a change there, but to
go with another guy who hasn't first time play caller, Like.
Speaker 1 (07:56):
That's exactly it.
Speaker 2 (07:58):
Like this is the time when you you do overspend
a little bit, and when it comes to coaches, what
does it matter?
Speaker 1 (08:04):
What does it matter?
Speaker 2 (08:05):
There's no salary cap on coaches, Like why are you
going bargain basement on this? You're gonna look back in
two years when you finally have CJ now on a
franchise deal and when you have to sign Will Anderson
Junior two, and you're going to look back and say, man,
that was a real missed opportunity. We had a chance
to do something and didn't do anything with it. And
then you're gonna have to You're gonna start to see
(08:27):
guys like Nico Collins go out the door and Daniel
Hunter go out the door because you can't keep everybody.
So I'm glad that you know, again you're well, we
trust our process in this building. I'm glad that your
process is really working out well for you because you're
gonna miss the plaoffs this year because you trusted your process.
And then this offseason, I have to believe the ownership
(08:48):
is gonna come to Nick Assario and say we've got
to spend some money.
Speaker 4 (08:53):
So Klay Kubiak is the he's first year o C
with the forty nine ers, but obviously it's Kyle Shannon offense.
He's he's run of that thing. But I'm looking around.
I mean Todd Monkin with the Ravens. Uh, you know
this guy who's been around a while, was had many
years at Georgia. Matt Naggy with the Chiefs. No, but
again he's he's part of it's Patrick Mahomes. So a
(09:15):
lot of these guys look good because of who their
quarterbacks are. Like, you know, we could talk about him
as a great OC. You know, Mike Lafour with the Rams, okay,
but it's Sean mcvanney sis. So a lot of these
it's because of who the head coach is. I don't
need Matt Naggy and the character coaching here. Joe Good,
Joe Lombardy in Denver, it's Sean Payton's offense. Joe Brady
(09:36):
with the Bills probably the one that under Showan mcdermoty
like he's that's Joe Brady's offense. That's a guy that
maybe you could have thrown a ton of money in
and said, I mean, Chim Kelly's getting six million a
year with the Raiders. Maybe if you'd have thrown that
at Joe Brady, maybe he get him down to Houston.
But I mean, it's not like it's not an attractive
spot with c. J. Stroud.
Speaker 1 (09:56):
That's exactly it. As a quarter that's exactly it.
Speaker 2 (09:59):
I mean again with the offensive line question, he got
a couple of weeks ago, miss me with the we
had interest, you are the interest Cliff Kenny. That's what
the selling point is.
Speaker 4 (10:10):
Cliff Kingsbury in Washington pretty highly thought of Greg Roman
with the Chargers. I'm just looking at, you know, Arthur
Smiths with the steel Arthur Smith's getting the most out
of that Steelers offense with old ass Aaron Rodgers.
Speaker 2 (10:24):
But I just don't want them to be the head
coach team and draft a tight end eighth overall and
not use them.
Speaker 4 (10:28):
The point is, we're just looking around the league and
there's a lot of current ocs that have a lot
of skins on the wall and might have been the
better option to go instead of catch a rising star
with Nick Cayley.
Speaker 2 (10:41):
Let him go be a rising star with the I
don't know, Carolina Panthers, or with the Jacksonville Jaguars somebody else.
That's those are jobs for a quote unquote rising star.
This was not a job for a rising star. This
was not a job on the job training.
Speaker 4 (10:55):
Well Cockle tweet what was the worst part of the
Texas game last night? Every comment Nick Cayley.
Speaker 2 (11:02):
I would say, that's probably a prevailing sentiment. Roger will
get you into the conversation. We'll continue the Texans conversation
because I mean, one real bright spot from last night's
scheme that I think can still be gleaned from it,
even if it doesn't seem like it's on the surface.
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