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September 13, 2025 • 101 mins
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Speaker 1 (00:01):
All right, here we go.

Speaker 2 (00:02):
Saturday edition of the program starts right now. Hello, Hello, Hello,
testing one too. Oh, I got to plug these in.
I guess it will help a lot. Hold on, le
plug my headphones in. Damn by there that whoa, that's
a little hot there. I kept turning it up expecting
to hear something and got nothing and realize that that
was just an exercise in futility.

Speaker 1 (00:23):
But now I've got it.

Speaker 2 (00:23):
Fix swordfish, I think they're not there. They don't get
the biggest of the billfish.

Speaker 1 (00:32):
They they're a little bit harder to catch.

Speaker 2 (00:35):
You're not going to catch as many of them as
you are selfish certainly, or even maybe blue marlin. But
the thing that's cool about them is how long that
bill of theirs is. It just looks a blue marlin's bill.
Let's call that a baseball bat. A swordfish's bill is
more like a telephone pole. They're just big and broad

(00:57):
and and mean. And their eyeball because they live so
deep and are trying to get some kind of light
in to figure out what's going on in their world.
One hundred and fifty pounds swordfish has got an eyeball
close to the size of a baseball. Hey, they're pulling
in all the light they can through those things.

Speaker 1 (01:17):
It's amazing. They're a fascinating fish.

Speaker 2 (01:18):
And not too bad on the plate either, I might add,
that's some of the best eat and you'll ever get
out of the Gulf of America or the Atlantic Ocean
or the Pacific Ocean. Golf sail fishing not bad or
not excuse me, golf sword fishing not bad really, if
you've got the boat and the crew and the effort

(01:39):
and kind of know halfway what you're doing. There have
been a lot of guys who have really dialed in.
It used to be that ninety percent of the swordfish
were caught at night, and just there was this presumption
that you couldn't catch them during the day and that
I don't remember. I wish I could remember who to
credit with this, but there were a couple of guys
I know. One of them was Brett Holding in his

(02:01):
crew from out at Holding Roofing in Rosenberg, passionate offshore fishermen,
and Brett actually decided that he was going to become
one of the top sword fishermen daytime sword fishermen in
all of the Gulf of America and what he did
was got in touch with a guy down in Florida

(02:21):
who was who kind of he had that reputation. He
was the swordfish guy, the daytime swordfish guy in Florida,
and Brett wanted to see if he could apply all
that stuff to what he knew about sword fishing here
and those guys collabsed for I don't know, a couple
of years or maybe more.

Speaker 1 (02:39):
Maybe there's still buddies. I don't know.

Speaker 2 (02:41):
The bottom line is you can catch them during the daytime.
A lot of people didn't think you could. But you
can want me to take him before or after Frankie.
I'm happy to jump on him with him now if
you want. Okay, he's filtering through Doctor George. There he
is right there. Okay, click click, click click, let me

(03:01):
find my little mouse. Hey doc, what's going on?

Speaker 3 (03:05):
Well?

Speaker 4 (03:06):
I was going to attest to and substanti h on
the palatability of swordfish.

Speaker 1 (03:11):
Almost ago was fortunate enough to be.

Speaker 4 (03:13):
Uh in Hawaiian on on MAUI took a drive up
the pan of highway and we're going up out in
the middle of nowhere, and I look over and there's
a little chick uh cooking.

Speaker 1 (03:25):
Uh.

Speaker 4 (03:27):
Shish kabobs are a fifty five gallon drum that had
been cut in half so are pulled over.

Speaker 1 (03:33):
So what you got there, she said, fresh swordfish.

Speaker 5 (03:36):
Oh my gosh, And of all the lovely fruit, coffee
and food, that was the best meal I had that
whole trip, on the side of the road with a
charcoal and a fifty five gallon drum, a.

Speaker 2 (03:50):
Little road dust, a little rust on the top from
sitting out in the rain, a little bit of good
clean dirt. Never heard of about, absolutely not. That's what's
wrong with half the kids in America right now. They've
been they've been sanitized every day of their lives since they've.

Speaker 1 (04:04):
Been born, and they're not allergic to it or not
immune to anything.

Speaker 3 (04:10):
It sure was.

Speaker 1 (04:11):
Oh that's so good.

Speaker 2 (04:12):
Yeah, thanks doc, All right, audios that yeah, that finding
something like that on the side of the road and
it's so unexpected and fresh swordfish. Anytime somebody says that
to you and there's there's a fire somewhere, just get
some of that and put it on that fire and

(04:33):
then go eat it. And if you can find some
stuff to put with it, maybe a little bit of
fruit juice, maybe just squeeze a lemon over it. Maybe
whatever you want, go ahead or not, It's gonna be
great no matter what you do with it. Seven one
three two one two five seven ninety Email me Doug
Pike at iHeartMedia dot com. Now that the now that

(04:53):
the electronics are so good, it's really not that hard
to find fish, and the fish that can be done offshore.
It's so much more efficient because you don't have to
just run around wondering what's down below you. You can
flip the switch on what does he call it? What

(05:13):
does faux pro call that?

Speaker 1 (05:15):
That gummt?

Speaker 2 (05:16):
I can't remember what he calls his forward facing sonar.
I'm so embarrassed. He and I have talked about it
one hundred times. But the bottom line is it just
shows you what's down there, and in tremendous detail too.
The whole offshore game has kind of changed with the
forward facing sonar, but you still I'm still a big
fan of what I wrote about many many times in

(05:39):
the paper, and I mean a bunch and what I
call the kind of the near shore zone. You don't
have to run thirty miles, you don't have to run
fifty miles.

Speaker 1 (05:49):
There's a nice.

Speaker 2 (05:50):
Little strip of water from about say three or four
miles to about ten miles out where a lot of
really big fish hang out.

Speaker 1 (06:05):
By the way. As an aside to the fishing.

Speaker 2 (06:07):
Part, everything looks pretty good where wherever you're gonna hunt,
Everything looks just great. And I say it'll be great
where you're gonna be hunting, because anybody who's done this
long enough knows that that that's gonna jinx your spot
and send the birds my way. I'm kidding, of course, Hey,
the birds go where the birds go.

Speaker 1 (06:26):
They got wings and they can fly. Same with fish.
It's swimming.

Speaker 2 (06:30):
But it does seem to happen that way. Sometimes it
absolutely does seem to happen.

Speaker 1 (06:34):
And I don't know why.

Speaker 2 (06:35):
This year though, I really think I think there's so
many doves in Texas that it's just not gonna matter.
You could probably limit out in a downtown parking garage
if you were able to sit there and get away
with it for a little while.

Speaker 1 (06:48):
I don't recommend that, but I do.

Speaker 2 (06:54):
It's been a long time, many years, so probably a
statute of limitations, if there was one is one, it's
run out on these guys. But there were some guys
I knew who lived in Katie, and I mean lived
in Katie, not near Katie, who very quietly with their
little Benjamin pellet guns, would would have a pretty steady
supply of doves. They love to eat them and never

(07:17):
stopped eating them. Seven one three two one two five
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Speaker 3 (07:24):
Uh.

Speaker 2 (07:25):
I don't know anything about tornadoes. I don't know anything
about how they well, I kind of have an idea
how they form. But if I lived in a place
where giant tornadoes roll through in Kansas or Oklahoma, Arkansas, wherever, Nebraska,
I'd be a little bit hesitant. I'd be a little
bit scared. I'd be leaning into the TV to find

(07:47):
out what's going on. And then I'd come to realize
after a long time there that there are ways to
defend yourself from these things, and you can't defend from
all of them. But I think I think more with tornadoes,
the people who live in those areas are just playing
the odds, because the odds say that most of the homes,

(08:09):
most of the places is going to be okay. A
tornado is a very precise, precise natural disaster.

Speaker 1 (08:20):
It doesn't cut nearly the swath.

Speaker 2 (08:23):
Even a giant tornado doesn't cut nearly the swath that
a hurricane does. So you just learn to go to
the basement, go into your tornado shelter, wherever that is.

Speaker 1 (08:38):
I wouldn't even know.

Speaker 2 (08:38):
I wouldn't begin to know if somebody, if I was
visiting somebody who lived up there and we heard the
sirens go off and they said, go to the shelter,
now I wouldn't I wouldn't know where to go. I
know what to do when a hurricane's coming.

Speaker 6 (08:53):
Oh.

Speaker 2 (08:54):
That's one of the reasons I'd rather live on the
Gulf coast than up in the Midwest. Other aside from
the fact that the Midwest is way too far from
the coast, I'd rather live down here because you can
see a hurricane coming from a long ways out.

Speaker 1 (09:06):
You got days to prep. It's interesting around here.

Speaker 2 (09:10):
The day before we're supposed to really start getting the
impact of a tropical storm or a hurricane out.

Speaker 1 (09:17):
In the Gulf of Mexico.

Speaker 2 (09:19):
The day before, golf courses are crowded and public pools
are crowded.

Speaker 1 (09:25):
Nobody's really doing.

Speaker 2 (09:26):
A lot because there's not a lot you can do
unless you plan to leave. Someday, there's going to come
a day when we really are facing another Ike, or
another Harvey, or another Allison. I don't know how many
of you in this audience remember Allison. It was a
tropical storm and nobody really worried about it until it
had been sitting on top of us for about three

(09:48):
days and delivered.

Speaker 1 (09:49):
I don't know what it was, twenty thirty.

Speaker 2 (09:52):
Inches of rain in about an hour and a half
something crazy like that. It was enough to fill up
the Southwest Freeway from the Loop to downtown, that little
low area there where all the there's no overpasses that
the ground level streets go over the freeway, but there's
no overpass because the street goes down and the road

(10:16):
crossing it goes up. And that was I don't know,
six eight ten feet of water down in there for days.

Speaker 1 (10:23):
It's crazy. That's the problem with that.

Speaker 2 (10:26):
Things like that is that when it does come along again,
and it will a lot of people are not going
to believe that they really need to get out, and
that's when you have problems. Let's take it, shall we
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to a little bit of that to get motivated, to
get fired up and hopefully get some cool.

Speaker 1 (11:46):
Air circulating through this studio.

Speaker 2 (11:47):
I was telling them Frankie over by the window, where
I said, it's cute and all having a window to
look out. I've got a great view of downtown once
I get past the condominium project and the townhomes that
are brand new.

Speaker 1 (12:01):
Used to be a nice open lot there.

Speaker 3 (12:03):
Uh.

Speaker 2 (12:03):
And occasionally you would see wildlife in the form of
a mouse or a rat skidder across the street down there,
because we are in Houston, after all, and you got
to take the wildlife you can get. But I could
see downtown and it was not an unpleasant view. It
really wasn't. And now I've got all that, And on

(12:25):
top of that, it's hot as blazes in summer over there.
It's hot as blazes on the weekends. Now inside here
we are on the on the weekdays, uh, the ac
is just blowing strong and everybody's happy and comfy.

Speaker 1 (12:40):
But on the weekends they don't turn it on. So
that's okay.

Speaker 2 (12:42):
I'm used to being outside, and like I've talked about before,
I'm not gonna I'm not gonna quit doing all my
outside stuff. And you know what, I've got a great
new way to feel like I'm benefiting from the heat
over there. It's acclimation, Frankie, is what it is. It's
to keep me acclimated to being uncomfortably warm. It's I
bet it's eighty degrees over there. But that'll help me

(13:05):
next time I go out and try to play golf
in the in the summer heat.

Speaker 1 (13:09):
I did.

Speaker 2 (13:10):
I went and hit balls yesterday for maybe fifteen minutes,
and then went and played four holes. And then I
ran into some other people and I'm I'm out there
by myself late in the afternoon, and I kind of
traffic jammed behind a foresome that had a threesome in
front of them, and the foresome was keeping up with

(13:31):
the threesome.

Speaker 1 (13:31):
So I kind of knew it was an exercise in futility.
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Speaker 2 (13:36):
One two five seven nine to email me Doug Pike
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Stand by one second while I uh indulged.

Speaker 1 (13:50):
Oh, come on, here we go.

Speaker 3 (13:53):
Oops.

Speaker 2 (13:55):
Okay, I had to add a couple of keystrokes because
I hit a wrong one. Then I had to erase
it that one, then move this thing out. Email me
Doug Pike at iHeartMedia dot comm. That's why I was
just responding to an email right then, and we'll plod forward.

Speaker 6 (14:10):
Man.

Speaker 2 (14:10):
When I was going off shore as a young guy,
as a teenager and a young adult with guys who
could get their hands on their dad's boats or whatever,
we were running not super far, but we would run
thirty forty fifty miles off shore, no GPS, nothing but

(14:30):
a whole lot of gas and a whole lot of hope,
and we'd get bounced around pretty good sometimes and just
rely on the compass to get us back to shore.
And then once you got back within sight of land,
you had to use landmarks to figure out exactly where
the jetty was.

Speaker 1 (14:49):
It was that hit or miss.

Speaker 2 (14:50):
It's remarkable that people sailed around the world as long
ago as they did and learned how to follow the
stars at night and navigate that way. Because as bold
and brave as we were, there were a lot of
times when you're sitting out there twenty thirty miles off shore,
he can't see land anywhere, and you're in eighteen nineteen

(15:12):
feet of boat with three other guys, all of whom
thought this was a great idea, and then you see
a big squall blowing up on the horizon. He got
of rethinking some of your decisions at that point. We
all made it back, though, We all made it back,
and I saw crazier people than us was. We always

(15:33):
knew we were crazy, and it was kind of kind
of funny because, you know, we jumping up seven, like
I said, seventeen eighteen maybe nineteen feet of boat and
feel like we were pretty stupid for being out there.
And then on the way out, at one of the
short rigs, you'd see some guy in a sixteen foot
John boat with five or six red gas cans on

(15:56):
the deck stopping.

Speaker 1 (15:58):
He would tell you kind of pull in. You're doing
any good? He tell you, I'm catching my bait before
I go offshore.

Speaker 2 (16:05):
Like, holy cow, dude, you're already miles offshore and you're
in a you're in a teacup man, you might want
to rethink your decision.

Speaker 1 (16:14):
Oh no, I'm good. He'd open the ice chest.

Speaker 2 (16:16):
There'd be like forty beers and three cubes of ice,
and somewhere in that boat, you know, there was a
boloney sandwich.

Speaker 1 (16:24):
So he was good. He was good. Let me go
talk to Dave. See what's up? Stand bye? Click, hey, Hey,
what's up?

Speaker 7 (16:32):
Man?

Speaker 3 (16:33):
Hey?

Speaker 7 (16:33):
What was that song?

Speaker 1 (16:34):
She's crazy crazier than me?

Speaker 2 (16:38):
Yeah, yeah, though some of them man offshore. Offshore fishermen
by nature are crazy, and then it just depends on
the degree of crazy.

Speaker 1 (16:48):
The size of your boat is relative to your crazy.

Speaker 8 (16:51):
Hey, and you're always supposed to name your boat the
lady's name.

Speaker 1 (16:55):
That's what they say.

Speaker 7 (16:56):
Yeah, you know, that's for good luck.

Speaker 1 (16:58):
You know, Uh, everything's doing good. Uh, Scott Mike.

Speaker 8 (17:03):
He said yesterday that he's gonna change my name from
doing traffic reports. He calls me ghetto Dave because I
lived in the ghetto. Now it's you know, he said.

Speaker 7 (17:11):
I'm gonna go back.

Speaker 1 (17:12):
I known him for twenty five years.

Speaker 8 (17:13):
It's guitar day, uptown day.

Speaker 1 (17:16):
What's this? Just twist it all meant? Uptown Dave? How's that?
I thought? R road Dave?

Speaker 8 (17:21):
Because I'm living in my I'm living in this car down.

Speaker 3 (17:25):
The river.

Speaker 1 (17:28):
East fork of the lake.

Speaker 6 (17:30):
Here.

Speaker 2 (17:30):
You remember, you're old enough to I think to remember
saying about trying to remember which where the sun comes
up and where it goes down.

Speaker 1 (17:39):
And why the sun is like a loaf of bread?
Have you ever heard that? What's up? It rises in
the yeast and sets in the vest.

Speaker 2 (17:51):
Yeah, and don't don't carry the football like a loaf
of bread. You gotta cover it up, hey, you got
to cover it up with both hands.

Speaker 1 (18:00):
Yeah, buddy, all right, day, thank you man? You bet adios?
All right? Holy cow uh. When we get back, I.

Speaker 2 (18:08):
Want to talk about just being appreciative for fishing trips,
because I had a couple of guys this week call me, well, well,
one guy about a freshwater trip actually, and one about
a saltwater trip, and they were all upset because they
didn't catch any fish, and they're whining and moaning and
what we do wrong? And and I tried to kind
of pull them back off the ledge because they went fishing.

Speaker 1 (18:31):
They went fishing.

Speaker 2 (18:32):
And if you can go fishing and spend a quarter
of a day, a half a day, by the way,
a day on the water is that's therapeutic for me.
I don't care what we catch, but the bottom line
is I kind of want to go into kind of
stepping back away from yourself when you're all upset because
you didn't catch any fish. And I'm gonna I'm gonna

(18:54):
bring some of you back to reality.

Speaker 1 (18:57):
All well, not all of you.

Speaker 2 (18:58):
Never mind, this audience is so good I'll still talk
about it that. I'll tell you about one trip I
had a long time ago in Florida where this guy
just really didn't get it.

Speaker 1 (19:06):
Professional guid and he flat didn't get it. I got
one of the.

Speaker 2 (19:11):
Cleverest things I've seen in a long time from Captain
Scott Scott and Oll just a minute ago, a simple
description of a hurricane.

Speaker 1 (19:22):
And I don't know if he's.

Speaker 2 (19:24):
Taking credit for it or not, but he said it,
so he gets credit here at least. It's like being
stalked by a killer turtle. That is so true. It's
coming there, it is, It's right there, and it's coming
and you can either stay and fight the turtle or
you can run from the turtle. And if you do

(19:46):
choose to run from the turtle, if you leave early enough,
you can get away from the turtle. Now, we have
to come up with one for a tornado. And I'm
not sure it's gonna take a little creativity. It's gonna
take me a while, but I'll get to it now.
Let's go talk to Dave. Speaking of clever things, He's
always got something day.

Speaker 8 (20:04):
What's up, man, I got a homemade fishing ruder that
there were three uh, three young guys here that are
they had kayaks and one of them he built a
top water bass fish in a little out of a
out of a top table leg.

Speaker 1 (20:24):
All the way down.

Speaker 8 (20:26):
See it. I'm going to send you the picture.

Speaker 3 (20:29):
Yew.

Speaker 8 (20:30):
Now listen, let me get on here, okay, uh and
then on the on the safety stuff for a hurricane
or something. I always try to keep a lot of
wood for cooking, and then you know, you want to
keep a lot of water, and then a lot of
kings good and ran.

Speaker 2 (20:46):
Wait a minute, you gonna you gonna be cooking over
what is little house on the prairie or what?

Speaker 8 (20:52):
No if if you ain't got no power?

Speaker 1 (20:54):
Okay, yeah.

Speaker 8 (20:58):
We had the hurricane there and.

Speaker 1 (20:59):
Then oh yeah, yeah, I'm just kind of joking about.

Speaker 8 (21:02):
I used the whole I used a six food high
stack of wood to come from the whole neighborhood. Want
to hurt you, I remember I told you I got that.

Speaker 6 (21:11):
Uh.

Speaker 8 (21:12):
My uncle Anton's of wooden suitcase is filled with using
chronicle papers medically. Wow, I'm gonna methodically go to there
and find all your and and this is the bucket list.
Go to there, and I'm gonna get a book and
I want to get them all in there.

Speaker 1 (21:32):
Oh man, that's awesome. Thank you, that's kind of cool.

Speaker 8 (21:35):
Well, no, no, no, it's it's an honor for me.
Well and uh, because I remember opening up the newspaper
looking at your articles all the time, you know. Anyway,
all right, all right.

Speaker 1 (21:50):
Thank you, Dave. I'll see I got the audio.

Speaker 2 (21:56):
That's an enthusiastic man right there. I guarantee you wish
I had the bubble he's got. I don't know what
it is in his bubble. I don't know what he's
putting in his coffee. He can come drop some in
mind anytime he wants to. That first lure thing reminded
me that the first lure I ever made, I was
probably fewer than ten years old. It was down in

(22:19):
Florida at my grandparents' house, and my grandfather and I
got in trouble for building that lure because it's primary
component a top water lure. It was just like that
other kid that Dave knows built one out of a
table leg presumably an old table that nobody wanted or
at least could lean up against a wall. We cut

(22:44):
a couple of pieces off the top of my grandmother's broomstick,
and that didn't go over well. So I ended up
with a lure and my grandfather ended up going to
the hardware store to buy a new broom Stuff happens
when you're in the middle of a creative, creative moment.
You just have to grab and go. You have to

(23:04):
finished a job, find something that looks like what you
want the end product to look like with a little
extra work, and get after it. And if that means
cutting three or four or five or six inches off
of broomstick to make a topwaterlure, hey, it's a lot
easier to get forgiveness than it is permission.

Speaker 1 (23:21):
Right, what's that old saying? I believe that's it?

Speaker 2 (23:24):
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Shawn Spots Talk seven ninety h man.

Speaker 1 (24:36):
I want to talk about some of these.

Speaker 2 (24:38):
Trips I've made and some that somewhere the fishing was outstanding, Somewhere.

Speaker 1 (24:43):
It was a struggle for days.

Speaker 2 (24:46):
But every one of them, when I look back, every
one of them either taught me something or generated a
good story, whether it was written or just something I've
got in the back of my head. And I I
don't see any fishing trip where everybody comes back healthy
and safe and not broken or bleeding. Any trip that

(25:10):
ends up that way is a pretty dog on good one.
And I've had a lot of people, and I guess
it's just a change in the way people look at
outdoor recreation and the instant gratification thing that so many
people are tied up with.

Speaker 1 (25:26):
I've let a really blessed life as a fisherman.

Speaker 2 (25:28):
I've gotten too fishing some I don't know, something like
two dozen states around the country and six or seven countries,
maybe more, i'd have to count.

Speaker 1 (25:37):
It's at least that many, and.

Speaker 2 (25:39):
For lots of different species too, And I honestly can't remember.
But maybe maybe one trip that a year or two
later I couldn't look back on and say it was
either good or great or excellent. That one involved a
guide down in Florida, doesn't matter who from the From

(26:01):
the minute I shook his hands and said goodbye, I
knew I'd never see that guy again, and that I
can't say that about any other fishing guy I've ever
fished with. There were some kind of goofy ones, there
were some kind of stubborn ones, and on and on
and on. It's just personalities go. But every one of
those guys I'd still go back and fish with. We

(26:23):
might have to have a conversation before we go, but
I'd still go.

Speaker 1 (26:26):
But this guy, he couldn't pay me to get in
his boat, and what he did. He had an ego
of the size of Texas.

Speaker 2 (26:34):
But he lived in Florida, and he'd been trying to well,
not he, but a PR firm. There was some company involved,
and we were trying to get this trip done forever
and ever and ever, and I mean it took a
couple of months to put this thing together. It was
supposed to be, Hey, just fly over this weekend, we'll
take care of it. We'll fish for a day and

(26:54):
a half or so, and then pop you right back home.
Sounded good, But then things got in the way on
both ends a couple of times, and it's like six
or eight weeks later, when I'm finally getting on the
airplane and going over there, getting a hotel call, the
guy tell him I'll see him in the morning.

Speaker 1 (27:09):
He's going to meet me in front of the hotel.

Speaker 2 (27:12):
And the day finally comes, I meet the guy in
front of the hotel. We sit down for breakfast really
really early, and we're talking and he's kind of dodging
some of my questions and I'm trying to figure out
what it is. And within five minutes he said, look, man,
we're not going today. And that's like, what now, We're

(27:34):
not going? I said, why it say it's too windy,
and I said, I'm just I'm working on a story
about fishing over here for a kind of a major magazine,
and I just all I need, really is a couple
of pictures to show where we are. I don't care
if we don't catch a fish. We just need to
go fishing now now, not putting my boat in the water.

(27:57):
It's a little bit windy for the places I wanted
to fish. I said, let me try this one more way.
How about we just put the boat in the water,
idle away from the dock one hundred yards, turned the
boat so that the skyline of whatever city we were
in would be in it. And then I'll snap a
few shots and you casting off the bat and we'll

(28:17):
call it today. No, no, I'm just leaving my boat
on the trailer. I'm going to go take it home
and work on it today. And he was adamant about that.
There was no way I was going to get him
to get his boat wet, and I think that he
had pretty much figured that out, like three or four
days before.

Speaker 1 (28:33):
He just didn't want to go.

Speaker 2 (28:35):
He was I don't know whether he was scared that
I would come back and write to everybody who reads
the newspaper, and there were a lot of people reading
the newspaper back when that had an outdoor section, And
if he was gonna he didn't want to be shamed
by me. I guess is what he was scared of.
His ego couldn't take it. And I've never come back

(28:57):
even from some bad trip. I had a bad trip
all the way down to Hondus one time. We get
down there and there was nothing on the map when
we left. Then all of a sudden, like halfway down there,
apparently something spun up right off shore, a low pressure system,
and it became a tropical storm that just didn't last

(29:18):
all the whole actual tropical storm didn't last that long,
but it affected right where we were fishing the whole
time we were there until the very last day.

Speaker 1 (29:28):
And the last day, on the last morning, when we had.

Speaker 2 (29:30):
About maybe two two and a half hours, the sun
came out and we jumped in boats and we ran
out there and we fished our hearts out for about
maybe two two and a half hours.

Speaker 1 (29:42):
Like I said, it's all we had.

Speaker 2 (29:43):
And there's a picture that's on the little one sheet
information sheet about what I do with this show that
I send to potential advertisers. By the way, if you
want you want some of this, just shoot me an
email and I'll talk to.

Speaker 1 (29:55):
You about it.

Speaker 2 (29:56):
But there's a picture on that thing of me holding
a fish, and I got a big smile on my face.
And it's not because of the bonefish, because that bone
fish in fourteen inches long.

Speaker 1 (30:08):
It wouldn't make a keeper trout if it was a trout.

Speaker 2 (30:11):
But it was the fact that we had worked for
days trying to fish in near tropical storm conditions and
had just worked our fingers to the bone, and we
finally succeeded in getting a fish to hand, and that
was that was all I needed. I could have been

(30:31):
a whiner and stayed at the lodge and not wanted
to go back out that last day. I could have
just said, I just chalked this one up right, it off. No, No,
I just can't imagine being disappointed after going fishing when
everybody's okay at the end of the day. The fishing
itself might have been disappointing. The lure selection.

Speaker 1 (30:55):
Who knows.

Speaker 2 (30:55):
You may have picked the wrong lure, you may have
picked the wrong tide, you may have picked the wrong
inlet to go out of, or whatever. But that's called education.
You're getting an education that will help you become a
better fisherman, and that in itself is invaluable if you

(31:16):
really care about fishing. Now, if all you want to
do is go out there and catch a bunch of fish,
I'm telling you right now, it's a whole lot cheaper
to just go to the grocery store. Say give me
one of those. Two of those those are cute? What's
that guy?

Speaker 1 (31:29):
I'll tell you give me two of those too. Let
me try them. You can get anything, you can get
any kind of seafood at the grocery store.

Speaker 2 (31:37):
But you can't get the experience you'll have if you
go catch it yourself. Fish tastes better when you catch
them yourself, too. I don't care what anybody tells you.
All right, I'm late for a break already, good heavens
I get Oh. It's very frustrating when young people tell me,
you know, yeah, I didn't have any fun fishing today.

Speaker 1 (31:53):
We didn't catch it, but like four fish.

Speaker 2 (31:56):
Hey man, I've spent hours, I've spent days catching zero
fish and then left just as happy as I was
when I got there because I'd gotten to fish.

Speaker 1 (32:05):
A cool new place. I'd met a cool bunch of people.

Speaker 2 (32:09):
We all had a good time talking about and then
laughing and teasing each other about not catching any fish.
When you look around the room and nobody's caught anything,
that's that's part of the experience. And I'm not real
happy with this instant gratification stuff and the way it's
changing the outlook the perspective of incoming fishermen forward facing

(32:33):
sonar man. That's not the best thing that could have
happened to fishing. It's just not what I'm hoping. Is
that all of you will find a way to justify
even if you only fish but don't hunt. Even if
you only hunt but don't fish, consider buying a combo license.

(32:58):
Do that, will you? It's gonna make such a difference.
Think of it as a little bit of an extra
money that it's a donation to the natural resources of Texas.
And if you want to be selfish, selfishing and think
of finding some way that it benefits you, then think

(33:18):
of this. Let's say you love to hunt, but you
don't care about fishing. Well, if our fishery managers don't
have the funding they need to protect all those resources,
then fishing productivity is gonna go down. And if fishing
goes bad, all those fishermen you don't really care about

(33:39):
are gonna do what to fuel their outdoors passion. They're
gonna take up hunting. Oh yeah, man, yeah, I heard
you like to dove hunt. Well, fishing's gone to gone.
You know, we're in a handbasket now and no fish
can catch anymore. So I'm gonna start hunting. Well, there's
not enough room out there for you, really, it's hunting hunting.

Speaker 1 (33:58):
Fields are pretty full now.

Speaker 2 (34:00):
Oh well, too bad, man, I'm coming over and the
same thing could go.

Speaker 1 (34:04):
It goes the other way, too, goes the other way.

Speaker 2 (34:07):
If there's nobody, If there's nobody out there chasing down
poachers or people who bait fields for ducks, or people
who hunt deer at night, all of that game populations
are going to go down quick, and all those hunters
are going to take up fishing.

Speaker 1 (34:23):
I'm joking, of course, sort of.

Speaker 2 (34:26):
But to lose any of this state's natural resources to
any cause, I don't care what it is, posing, pollution, whatever,
that's a risk this state can't really afford to take,
because that's one of the biggest draws we have to
Texas tremendous outdoor recreation. Look at Dave bouncing back by
the way, faux pro call back if you need to.

Speaker 1 (34:46):
What's up, Dave?

Speaker 9 (34:48):
Yeah, real quickly, Dug, I'm up here in each text.

Speaker 1 (34:50):
Oh that's right.

Speaker 2 (34:51):
Never mind, I thought it was I thought it was
guitar Daves signing back in Now I.

Speaker 9 (34:56):
Know all right, I'm I still oh yeah, absolutely, Okay, Doug.
A couple of things you know so much is going digital.
Now You've got two parks of Wahlate Department apps out
there right now, You've got the Outdoor app, which they
called the Red App, and then you've also got the
Hunting Fish app, which they called the Green App. And

(35:18):
I don't think a lot of people know how these
two work one kind of there are no Well, the
only way you can get a paper copy of the
annual is to go to a hunter education class.

Speaker 6 (35:30):
Yeah, and it's all digital.

Speaker 9 (35:33):
And now you've got the Hunting Fish app that you
I know you're not a fan of all this.

Speaker 8 (35:37):
Digital stuff, so I come to lat it's.

Speaker 1 (35:40):
A money saver. I understand that, David.

Speaker 2 (35:41):
I do because I was thinking years ago that I
could find somebody to cover the cost to printing those
things when they first started to ditch them, And when
I found out how much it costs to print them all,
I think that narrowed the list really quickly.

Speaker 1 (35:56):
Let's just leave it at that.

Speaker 9 (35:57):
Yeah, get out learn those apps.

Speaker 8 (36:00):
But also what I wanted to real quickly.

Speaker 9 (36:02):
You kind of hit on something earlier changing gears here.

Speaker 6 (36:06):
You talked about your homemade fishing lebres.

Speaker 9 (36:08):
Yeah, it made me think about how many times we've
been in the outdoors and we didn't have something that
we needed. And here's a good example. You forgot to
put the plug in your shotgun and you're getting ready
to go duck hunting. Oh boy, Yeah, I bet you've
seen more different things used as plugs and shotguns. But

(36:33):
there's all types of examples where we've had to improvise
in the woods at the deer least, when we left
something at home and we had to find something else
that worked, and that might make a good topic.

Speaker 1 (36:46):
Absolutely it is. I like that.

Speaker 2 (36:48):
Yeah, I've seen guys use all kinds of stuff to
plug a shotgun, pencils, tree limbs, just whatever, whatever it takes. Really,
if if somebody had an old, stale hot dog, they
probably would have shoved one of those in there.

Speaker 3 (37:02):
Ali, Thank you, Thank you d.

Speaker 1 (37:06):
That's great, Thank you, David. I appreciate it. Man.

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Speaker 1 (38:11):
Talk seven ninety.

Speaker 2 (38:11):
Let me turn the volume back up a little bit
when we go to break the commercial volume. And it's
the same with television. When commercials come on, the volume
goes up. And I'm not sure whether it's that way
in the car, on the radio, I can't remember, but
TV and in this studio at least, Holy Cow, it

(38:32):
just it ramps up like if normal volume, what I
have it at now is a on a one to ten.
If it's a five, it ramps up to about an
eight when we go to commercial in my ears at least,
so I have to scramble to turn them back down.

Speaker 1 (38:47):
I want to get a little bit started on.

Speaker 2 (38:49):
Talking about dove season, because in about ten minutes, once
we get back from the break at the top of
the hour, I'm gonna get Jerry TK from Shooter's corner
on the phone and we'll die a little bit into
some of the specifics of dove hunting and dove hunting
loads that the powder charges, the shot, the the size

(39:12):
of the shot that he and I like for dove hunting,
and just what antimony is and if you don't it's
not alimony.

Speaker 1 (39:20):
It's antimony.

Speaker 2 (39:22):
And it's a hardening agent that goes into the lead
that choosed for the pellets that helps them resist being
flattened out like footballs. As the as the pressure of
that powder charge jams all those pellets together as they

(39:43):
when the shot is first fired, that little plastic wad
cup going out and pushing all that shot with it.
If those pellets don't have enough animony in them or
any at all, a whole lot of them are going
to get squished, and that makes them unround.

Speaker 1 (40:03):
And just imagine throwing throwing baseballs.

Speaker 2 (40:11):
If you throw a bunch of baseballs, they're all gonna
go pretty straight. If you take those baseballs and mash
them down on one side and throw them, they're gonna move.
They're gonna go in all directions. And that's what happens
to those pellets. And not all of them deform on

(40:34):
a with cheap shot shells, but enough of them do
that they can create holes in the pattern. Even though
you've got several hundred pellets like eights or seven and
a half. There's hundreds of pellets in that little ounce
of shot. But if they're holes in the pattern because

(40:56):
some of those pellets, instead of being within the thirty
inch at thirty yards or wherever it is you're trying
to hit, half of them might be two three, four
five feet out of the out of the off the paper.

Speaker 1 (41:09):
So we're gonna talk about that a good bit.

Speaker 2 (41:11):
Leaning back into the fishing for just a little bit.
I'm anything's possible when you're in saltwater. That's one of
the things that fascinates me about it and continues to
draw me to it. Even as I get older and
older and older, I'm still if it's time to go fishing.
I want to hear something about salt water. I'll go
bass fishing. I'll go crappie fishing, I'll go catch catfish,

(41:32):
I'll go catch guars, whatever. I don't care. First I
want to go fishing. If I have a choice, I'm
gonna go saltwater fishing. And again, it's not to knock
bass fishing. There's nothing wrong with that. Next bass I
catch certainly won't be my first, but my passion is
salt water because you.

Speaker 1 (41:50):
Really do not know what you're gonna catch.

Speaker 2 (41:53):
It might be something a little bitty, it might be
something giant, and it might be something in between, but
you can rest assured it's going to pull hard because
every fish in the ocean is I wrote this forty
years ago, now maybe more, there's only two fish. All
the gazillions of fish in the ocean and in the
bays and everywhere in salt water, each fish is only

(42:16):
worried about two different two more the one in front
and the one behind. And if you've heard that a
million times, I'm sorry, but there's bound to be somebody
new to this audience who'd never heard me say that before.
And it makes so much sense because if you're if
you're not chasing something down to have the energy to
run away from something chasing you, then you just got eaten.

Speaker 1 (42:38):
Hey, Jay, what's up? Oh it's not hold on okay now, Frankie, Ah,
there we are, Jay, what's up?

Speaker 3 (42:47):
Man?

Speaker 7 (42:49):
Hey, good morning. So we're talking outdoors and uh uho
the scot the Collis screener said, well he likes to
or you know, I'm a golfer. Okay, Oh yeah, well
he said, yeah dog, let's talk about golf.

Speaker 1 (43:05):
Where do you play?

Speaker 7 (43:07):
Uh? Well here locally. He used to be on staff
at Babes of Harris in the Port Offers. Yeah, and
I'm in the county area. I was, and uh I
had to go back to work briefly, so I had
to leave it. But I love the free golf that was.
It was funny. It was a fun experience. And I
mentioned Mitch Duncan or golf pro. He was fantastic because

(43:31):
when we went out and did a nine hole drill
and the only two things you really said of any
criticism was he just said narrower stance and he said turn, turn,
turn on the ball, okay, and that's where you know,
that's where you hit the slice, you know, because you
don't turn on it well coming through and yeah, off

(43:53):
the face and well yeah, you're gonna probably hit a
slice instead of it like uh well I like to
a high cut fade. But anyway, Yeah, that's that's got it.

Speaker 1 (44:02):
That's my go to.

Speaker 2 (44:03):
That's that's the one ball I can best my fairway finder,
you know how that works.

Speaker 7 (44:07):
Yeah, Hey, I got a question for you, Jay.

Speaker 2 (44:10):
How many people younger than forty, younger than forty know
who Babe Zaharis?

Speaker 6 (44:15):
Is?

Speaker 7 (44:18):
A very few?

Speaker 1 (44:19):
Yeah, I bet they should look her up, shouldn't they?

Speaker 7 (44:23):
Yeah, they should. Or go to the Babes of Harris
Museum in Beaumont, I mean that might help, or the
Museum of the Gulf Coast and.

Speaker 1 (44:29):
Port Oflpher Yeah, good call.

Speaker 7 (44:31):
We have we have, uh, I mean even a lot
of people that don't know this guy. But he played
thirteen years on the PGA Terris from Port Off from
the Flegman lumber family was Marty and I think he
still teaches golf in Houston. The last I.

Speaker 2 (44:47):
Knew which Marty Marty Fleman Marty, Yeah, Marty Fleckman, Yeah and.

Speaker 1 (44:53):
New or no. Yeah, guys, he's still around.

Speaker 7 (44:56):
I think he is as far as yeah he was.
The last I heard he was tea golf in Houston.

Speaker 1 (45:01):
Yeah probably.

Speaker 3 (45:02):
Yeah.

Speaker 2 (45:03):
If you I'll tell you what if he's still got
a heartbeat. He's teaching golf.

Speaker 1 (45:06):
That's that was his calling from a very early age,
I know.

Speaker 7 (45:11):
Yeah, yeah, so that's what well if late was you know,
like Chris Stroud came from the same high school I did,
p and g uh and uh Andrew Landry of local fame.
And there's another guy you need to look for is
uh Is Bailey. I'm trying to think of his first name, Braiden,

(45:32):
Braiden Bailey. He got he got to play the Houston Open.

Speaker 3 (45:36):
Uh.

Speaker 7 (45:37):
One year it was Giles Kibby that got him a
spot in the Houston Open. And he did pretty good.
He finished three under. He got a check.

Speaker 1 (45:48):
That's really good. A lot of people don't understand how.

Speaker 2 (45:52):
Good you have to be to make a cut at
get a check at a PGA Tour event.

Speaker 1 (45:57):
That's awesome, man.

Speaker 7 (45:59):
Yeah, your first time I'm out, you know. And he's
been anyone on the Canadian Tour. He played up there
for a while, so uh he is uh. He's the
son of the former mayor of groves, which was I
think bad?

Speaker 6 (46:11):
Daily?

Speaker 7 (46:11):
I think it was well, I got to look for Jay.

Speaker 2 (46:16):
I hate to do it to you, but I got
to bounce, man, I got to get this break in
on time. We're uh, I get punished when I'm not
on time on my brakes, I get.

Speaker 1 (46:26):
I get EGI. Yeah, it's great talking to you too. Yeah,
thank you, thanks for listening. Let's get the faux pro,
shall we? Hey, foe?

Speaker 2 (46:37):
Before I let you go, I got a question for you.
David was talking about it. Things you've had to improv,
whether it's for fishing tackle or hunting gear or whatever.
What can you think of anything where you've had Oh man,
I forgot whatever.

Speaker 1 (46:51):
And I'll have to use this that you can say
on the air.

Speaker 3 (46:55):
Oh okay that I say out there?

Speaker 7 (46:56):
Take you that?

Speaker 10 (46:58):
Uh I can old air improv?

Speaker 7 (47:01):
Oh man, let me think real quick.

Speaker 1 (47:07):
Have ever gotten caught without flyers?

Speaker 8 (47:11):
No?

Speaker 10 (47:12):
Luckily, I've ever been caught without flyers yet?

Speaker 3 (47:14):
Yeah?

Speaker 1 (47:14):
I always carry them.

Speaker 2 (47:15):
And those those three kids who showed up at that
little spot I was gonna take my friend. Not one
of them had a just a crank bait berry in
a fish's mouth.

Speaker 1 (47:23):
That man, you got flyers and help you out with that.

Speaker 2 (47:26):
And he said, no, I don't have any flyers, and
his friends didn't have flyers none. All they have is
rodging reels and like four lures. And I'm I'm wanting.

Speaker 1 (47:37):
I don't care.

Speaker 2 (47:37):
I told a guy yesterday, I don't care if they're
in there catching fish because they're young and they're still
super excited. I've caught a lot of fish in my life. Well,
what I'm gonna try.

Speaker 1 (47:46):
To do is teach these kids to mash their barbs down.

Speaker 2 (47:50):
Teach them to invest three dollars at five below and
a pair of needle nosed flyers, And is that way
even if they rush shut in an hour and a half,
you've still got your money for it. And just be prepared,
you know, be prepared to take care of those fish.
You're throwing them back anyway, and you're not going to
eat any of them.

Speaker 1 (48:08):
So kind of that's how I am.

Speaker 3 (48:10):
Oh, yeah, I guess I don't thing.

Speaker 10 (48:11):
I've probably they make a wedge for your troll moti
when you're in an extremely shallow water, like I do
when I'm in Houston, Can Yeah, yeah, OK, But I'm
old school, so I use a piece of two by four,
and I didn't have that, so I got my big
worm bag and I stuck it up under the troll.

Speaker 7 (48:26):
Motor on that worm bag.

Speaker 10 (48:28):
You know, yeahs I've done so.

Speaker 2 (48:31):
Didn't have a shoe box, didn't have a two by four,
couldn't find a fence post, so the worm bag. And
I suspect that worm bag is full enough that it
it didn't even bend when you put that on there.

Speaker 10 (48:43):
Oh yeah, I'm getting at last night out of my boat.
If I took all the soft plasfors my boat, I'm.

Speaker 2 (48:47):
Sure probably all right, folk, bro, It's been a pleasure
man as always, stay in touch.

Speaker 1 (48:54):
But talk to you, you bet, Audios. That's a good
dude right there.

Speaker 6 (49:00):
You.

Speaker 1 (49:00):
He knows his way around Livingston.

Speaker 2 (49:02):
He knows his way around probably at least a half
a dozen of the best lakes in Texas. If you
ever get a chance to get in the boat with
that guy, do it, good man. I'm trying to think
of other things that I've improved. There was an old
school way to stay warm in the deerstand years ago,

(49:23):
and it had to do with it was soaking a
toilet paper roll in some sort of flammable liquid. I
can't even remember how it all worked, and it's probably
best that I don't go into it anymore because I'm
sure more than one deer stand is burned down because
people did it wrong.

Speaker 1 (49:42):
So I'm just not even gonna I'll let that one go.
I'll just let that one go.

Speaker 7 (49:47):
All right.

Speaker 1 (49:47):
We gotta take a little break here on the way
out Berry Hill.

Speaker 2 (49:50):
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Hill's been in Sugarland about as long as I have,
thirty years, and they turn out some of the best
Mexican food you'll ever put in your mouth. Outstanding fish, tacos,
outstanding seafood, enchiladas.

Speaker 1 (50:08):
I love it all at Berryhill.

Speaker 2 (50:09):
You will too, dining inside and out and a very
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Hey Dougpike here. If you can find your way to
two ninety and then to Fry Road and then a
little south on Fry Road, and you like golf, that's
going to put you right at the gate to Black

(50:29):
Horse Golf Club. Two great golf courses, the North Course
which is still daily fee, and a great track in
the South Course, which went private this year and has
membership options up to and including access also to Blackhawk
Country Club and Golf Club of Houston. Black Horse Golf
Club dot Com is a website, black Horse goolf Club
dot com. All right, welcome back, thanks for listening. Dougpikeshaw

(50:52):
on Sports Talk seven to ninety. As promised, I've got
one of the coolest people I've ever met my whole
life on the phone right now, and that's Jerry TK.

Speaker 1 (51:03):
I'm gonna get him on the phone. Jerry TK. What's
going on?

Speaker 7 (51:05):
Man?

Speaker 3 (51:07):
Oh oh, nothing much, Doug. Sitting down here in South
Texas watching these birds fly over.

Speaker 1 (51:13):
So what county are you? What counties you're wrenching?

Speaker 3 (51:16):
Yeah? Do all?

Speaker 6 (51:17):
Oh?

Speaker 1 (51:18):
Okay, yeah, yeah.

Speaker 2 (51:19):
That's a nice country right there, man, holy cow, right
in the middle of it all, far enough away from
the river to not have to have too many worries,
I guess.

Speaker 3 (51:27):
Huh no, No, the New Aces is a little little
bit north of us here, but we got we're about
ten miles north of Freer Yeah, okay, fifty nine.

Speaker 2 (51:39):
Oh, I know exactly where you are Man sounds like
a pretty place. So here's what I want to do.
So let's talk about dove hunting.

Speaker 3 (51:47):
I would you know you're going to be planning some
dove hunts, you know, especially if you're coming out of
the Houston area going south or north or which direction
you're going to.

Speaker 7 (51:57):
Go dub hunt.

Speaker 3 (51:59):
And I see it time and time again. People take off,
they go, spend a bunch of money, they go off
the hunting, and then their gun get out there in
the field and their old trusty shotgun doesn't work. Yeah,
they're out there, and uh, my advice to people, get
that gun, get it cleaned up, you know, either take

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it to your gun smith or something. Get it checked out,
especially on those old Remitton eleven hundreds where those old
rings go go bad. Yeah, but you need to be
prepared because it's uh if you you know, if you
have a trip plan and you spend a bunch of
money getting to the place you're going and your firearm

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doesn't work, and it's it's all or not, and just
get that thing checked out. And you know another thing
is shoot good good shells.

Speaker 1 (52:55):
Amen, that's on my list. Here, go ahead, preach preacher.

Speaker 3 (52:59):
Yeah, too many times people they you know, they shot
you know, and I know it's shotgun shells have gone
up and since COVID and everything. But buy good shells, yeah,
you know good. The best brand that I find is Reels. Yeah,
they're popular and they are one of the best shotgun

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shells you can you can find it.

Speaker 2 (53:25):
Jerry, talk a little bit about antimony, because I bet
seven out of ten people listening right now don't even
know what that is and what it does for lead pellets.

Speaker 3 (53:34):
It's animony is a is a metal. It's it's a
metal that's used to put into the lead to harden it.

Speaker 6 (53:45):
Right.

Speaker 3 (53:45):
You know, if if you buy a shotgun shells, some
are just nothing but purelyd Okay, good shotgun shells have
between three and five percent animony. Now your target loads
more have they carry more of the five percent animony?
They want less deformation and most hunting, good hunting loads,

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they got three percent. And that's keep the shot from
deformation and gives you a good pattern, you know, and
take that old shotgun out and pattern it.

Speaker 1 (54:20):
I'm not talking about that you take.

Speaker 3 (54:23):
Your deer right out inside it in but take that
old smoke wagon after and try that pattern that shotgun.

Speaker 8 (54:30):
Yeah.

Speaker 2 (54:30):
I talked to Eda Riggi about that and found out
that they have I think at twenty five yards down
like from five yards out to six hundred, but at
twenty five there's a place where you can just go
up there and strap up a piece of butcher paper
and see how many holes you can put in it.
And I can't impress and I know you'll agree with
me how smart that is to just go see what

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your shotgun shoots like with the different choke tubes in it.
And you can't really check different ranges there, but you
can see at twenty you know, twenty five, I think
it is. You can see the difference very clearly, see
the difference in patterns.

Speaker 3 (55:08):
Right, and and be prepared sometimes when you go the hunt,
if you're hunting over a water source like a pond
late and eating it early in the morning, you know,
you lead a little more open. You know, go with
either an improved celinder.

Speaker 1 (55:21):
Or solder and spram out everywhere.

Speaker 3 (55:26):
Yeah.

Speaker 2 (55:27):
Here there was a place when I was when I
was waterfowl guiding and dove guiding out there in Katie,
there was a place that we found that was really
close to town to had those giant high lines where
the you know, the main transmission lines of the big
tall towers. And they were these birds were flying to
and from roost and feed about ten yards even higher

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than those and old Eric Hilton and I got out
there full choked and leading these birds about the length
of a school bus and knocking them down. It was
hil is, man, We had so much fun. That was
that's some tough shooting, man.

Speaker 3 (56:05):
Yeah, that's uh, that's to me. You know, that's a lot.
That's the best part of dove hunting. I like, is
that pass shooting at those flocks like that?

Speaker 8 (56:12):
Oh?

Speaker 1 (56:12):
Yeah, man.

Speaker 3 (56:13):
And so I think it's going to be a banner
year this year on dove.

Speaker 1 (56:19):
So that's what parts a good Yeah.

Speaker 2 (56:21):
Partial wallet departments. So we've got like a record number
of white wings. Their word was excellent as far as
predicting what the season would be.

Speaker 1 (56:29):
So uh yeah.

Speaker 2 (56:30):
And now that that being said, you can still be
one fence line from where excellent meets nothing.

Speaker 1 (56:36):
It just happens. That's way.

Speaker 2 (56:38):
That's kind of like fishing that way, but overall pretty
good looking. What what is your when when you dove
hunt anymore?

Speaker 1 (56:47):
What gun do you pull? What gauge do you pull
and what what shot load do you put in there?

Speaker 8 (56:54):
Uh?

Speaker 3 (56:55):
I shoot an overnunder. I shoot a browning over unders okay,
uh and and uh generally I'll just shoot uh you know,
improved cylinder or or cylinder right and until if I
see them flying high, and then I'll change out to
the modified.

Speaker 7 (57:12):
Yeah.

Speaker 3 (57:12):
And I like I like those real Super Game seven
and a half anson eight shots and they're running twelve
eighty twelve hundred and eighty feet a second. If you
get much over that, you get you'll start getting your
shoulder beat up pretty good. You know. That's a good
point for over under, for shooting over. Now, if you're
shooting a semi auto, yeah, in a Burretta or Bonelli,

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you know, it's not as bad. You can you can
get by that. But and that's another thing. Some of
these semi autos on these uh low powered double low
powered shotgun shells, they oh wow, nope, Yeah.

Speaker 2 (57:50):
There's nothing and there's nothing you can do in the
field about that. If you've got you've got shells that
won't kick that kick.

Speaker 1 (57:57):
That haul out, then you're just stuck. You might as
well bring a sling shot, you know.

Speaker 3 (58:02):
Yeah, I mean we see this time again. Man, I
come in there, my shotgun mot cycle. What load you shoot? Well,
they're you know, one ounce these seven eight?

Speaker 7 (58:14):
Yeah, and uh, well.

Speaker 3 (58:16):
You've gotten shoot a little heavier load, little better shotguns
you yeah. Yeah, And it makes sense because you don't
you know, you don't want to come out here and
burn up a box for two birds.

Speaker 1 (58:29):
Yeah, you know, isn't that the truth?

Speaker 2 (58:31):
Hey, I got a question off of shotguns for a second,
just because I know you got more experience than.

Speaker 1 (58:36):
I do, even hunting doves. Camo? How important is camo?

Speaker 2 (58:41):
And is is camo more important than just being still
when doves are flying?

Speaker 3 (58:47):
It's both you need to be camo and being still.
You know, uh too many times to see people just
standing out, you know, but you know, standing out in
the middle of the field. Oh god, yeah, and that's
you know, that may work on early seasons, but when
you as you see goes in, those birds get smart.

Speaker 6 (59:08):
Now.

Speaker 2 (59:08):
Yeah, but day two they figured it out after day one. Uh,
we watched that every year that the birds. The first morning,
the birds are flying three feet off the ground, just
right over the goat weed, just just high enough not
to bump their bottoms on it, you know. And then
by the second day they're they're up twenty five thirty
yards they know.

Speaker 3 (59:28):
Right, you know, and that's something too, you know, you
get food sources that they that's what Instead of planning,
I've went through it all planning, all kinds of exotic
uh seas. I just went and bought bought dow weed
seeds from a place up in the brown Wood Crowton. Wow, goat, yeah,

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and only came up. Yeah, that's incredible, man, you only
count it.

Speaker 6 (59:59):
It's a natural you know, it's.

Speaker 3 (01:00:00):
Just natural feed.

Speaker 2 (01:00:01):
Yeah, that's that they're they're looking for that anyway, and
you just handed to them on a silver platter. What Hey,
I want to do this again before Rifle season two
to talk a little bit about calibers and some of
the boutique calibers and whether you like.

Speaker 1 (01:00:15):
That and whatnot. So I'm going to tee you up
all right.

Speaker 11 (01:00:20):
Jerry, And well good talking to you, yes, sir, man
questions sir, And good luck to all these hunters out there,
and uh, I hope they can fill their bags full.

Speaker 1 (01:00:31):
How many boxes?

Speaker 2 (01:00:32):
How many cases of Rio seven and a half you've
got in the store right now?

Speaker 3 (01:00:38):
I got a truckload any other day, a couple of palletts.

Speaker 1 (01:00:42):
Oh lord, it's so yeah.

Speaker 2 (01:00:45):
I've probably shot a few pallets of shells in my time,
but to to think about truckloads of shells, that's pretty impressive. Man.
That's good though, because everybody who wants them is going
to get them, and they always do. From you, Jerry,
thank you so much for your team.

Speaker 6 (01:00:58):
Man.

Speaker 3 (01:00:58):
Yes, yes, sir, thank you.

Speaker 2 (01:01:00):
Uh huh you beteos it. That's Jerry TK from down
there at Shooter's Corner. One of the nicest guys, one
of the most patient guys, and uh he just if
you ever want to have a good conversation about any
kind of honey, about any kind of gun related issue,
just get him on the phone or get down there

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Speaker 1 (01:02:31):
I got some email stuff I want to go through
real quickly.

Speaker 2 (01:02:34):
Here Alan wondering if I served goofyfoot or right foot forward.

Speaker 1 (01:02:44):
Those are the same thing.

Speaker 2 (01:02:46):
I don't know why, I don't know who it was,
clearly some right handed person who first coined the term goofyfoot.
My right foot leads on the surfboard and a right
handed person's left foot leads on the surfboard.

Speaker 1 (01:03:01):
And there's really it doesn't matter. I was in my prime.

Speaker 2 (01:03:08):
I was able to take waves that broke left and
broke right and enjoy enjoy them with equal enthusiasm and
a moderate level of skill. I was never going to
win any surfing contest, but I had a lot of fun.
I can remember pretty early on on a very short,

(01:03:30):
very responsive board at the old surf side pier. The
first kind of right of passage was to be able
to surf through the peer and not actually run into
one of the pilings.

Speaker 1 (01:03:44):
And that might sound pretty easy, but it's not.

Speaker 6 (01:03:49):
And so.

Speaker 2 (01:03:52):
Before you would be successful, most of us anyway, you'd
bounce off a piling or two, and that was just
great fun.

Speaker 1 (01:04:01):
Moving down the line, here Danny weighs in with this.
Let me say, where did it go? Hold on? Oh,
I'm on this little, tiny little screen and I don't
like it, morning, Doug. I'm Danny.

Speaker 2 (01:04:13):
Used to fish to Bob Hall Pier down in Corpus
my whole life and moved here and have it fished
to surf in forever twenty years plus. I'd like to
know a spot you would recommend that would replicate fishing
off Bob.

Speaker 1 (01:04:26):
Hall mainly for bull reds.

Speaker 2 (01:04:29):
Jetties are peers, and thanks and I appreciate the appreciate
the email, Danny.

Speaker 1 (01:04:35):
So here's the deal.

Speaker 2 (01:04:37):
When as we get closer to fall, closer and closer,
there's an email I just got that I've been looking
for for an hour and a half.

Speaker 1 (01:04:46):
As we get.

Speaker 2 (01:04:46):
Closer to fall, the rock groins of Galveston are all
kind of like little miniature piers. You can go out
that ninetieth Street Pier, you and a whole lot of
people when it's a good day to be chasing those bullreds.
Or you can do what I'm talking about and walk
all the way to the end of one of those

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little rock groins up and down the Gallaston Beach front
and just cast as far as you can with your
big old surf fraud and you will get your share
of redfish bites, no question.

Speaker 1 (01:05:19):
About it.

Speaker 2 (01:05:20):
The jetty, the Galveston jetties, I don't think of when
I think of trying to chase bullreds. I do, though,
think of the surf side jetty, because in the fall
there's actually a washout that I'm sure is still there.
The currents haven't changed that much toward the end of
the surf side, not Quintana, but toward the end of

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the surf side side, at about for the last fifty
seventy five yards of those rocks, casting straight out as
far as you can throw something, there's a hole out there,
and I used to catch quite a few bullreds out
of that hole.

Speaker 1 (01:05:58):
Now, this is before the the invasion.

Speaker 2 (01:06:01):
Of everybody and anybody with a fishing rod who wanted
to go down there and just take up room and
bring wagons and beach umbrellas and or patio umbrellas and
ice chests and all of that stuff. But when it
was less crowded, I was actually going out to the
very end of that jetty and throwing giant rattle traps

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and giant soft plastic jigs on a rig that would
throw it. Throw either of those really really far, leave
the real open until that thing hit the bottom and
then just kind of flick them, just bounce them off the.

Speaker 1 (01:06:37):
Bottom a little bit.

Speaker 2 (01:06:38):
And I think that big rattle trap was imitating a
crab because I caught as many bull reds on that
as I did on the jigs, and it was just
it's crazy, but they're there. And now you can throw
bait if you want to chop a mullet and a
half and sling that out there and you'll get bit
as well. But it was just more fun with me
with the lure. For me, with the lures, bait I

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think is your better bet for the little Galveston rock groins.
Those fish aren't gonna concentrate. They'll just be moving up
and down the beach, and plenty of them to be caught.
The sixty first Street pier even you're gonna catch. Any
place where you can go and get a bait out
past that third bar is probably gonna be at least Okay,

(01:07:21):
it may not replicate what you could do from Bob Hall,
just because the coastlines are different and the bottom contours
are different, but you'll have a fighting chance, I guarantee
you that.

Speaker 1 (01:07:31):
But yeah, that's a fun, fun plan, and you're.

Speaker 2 (01:07:35):
If you go to the right spots at the right time,
you'll have every bit as good as shot to catch
a bull red as you ever did down there at
the Bob Hall seven one three seven ninety. Email me
Doug Pike at iHeartMedia dot com. I want to go
back a little bit to what Jerry and I were
talking about Jerry TK and I from Shooter's Corner about
shot shells.

Speaker 1 (01:07:55):
When I was shooting.

Speaker 2 (01:07:56):
Pigeons competitively, we were very very picky about what we
shot because hitting or missing a target could cost a
lot of money, cost me a lot of money to
lose them, and cost somebody else a lot of money
if I was hitting them, and so we were very
picky and very uh and well, we weren't really protective

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of what loads we were shooting because everybody we were
all we were all friends and we would all kind
of share the same notes, and depending on what gun
you shot, depending on where you were in the day's
race or whatever.

Speaker 1 (01:08:31):
You might change stuff up.

Speaker 2 (01:08:33):
First shot versus second shot was even a different a
different load and a different choke for me, and almost
I don't remember anybody shooting single barrel shotguns and competitive
pigeon shooting, but.

Speaker 1 (01:08:47):
That's just the way it was.

Speaker 6 (01:08:48):
And so.

Speaker 1 (01:08:50):
The reason we did that.

Speaker 2 (01:08:53):
Is because we over time learned how our specific shotguns
worked with each load and how how best to take
advantage of that first very close shot. A lot of
these guys were they were almost quick draw artists with
their shotguns. They would have that gun up and ready,

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and as soon as that bird appeared, they're pulling the
trigger for that first shot and then patiently waiting if
they missed, to let that bird settle and get the
second shot off on more like a more traditional dove shot.
The first shot was more like a quail shot, and

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they just all the birds out and boom, there you go.
And then that second shot was more patient to make
sure that you got that bird down according to the
rules of the game. Bottom line was it does matter,
There's no question about it. Someone three nine Email me
Doug Pike at iHeartMedia dot com. Beach fishing for sharks

(01:09:55):
is an art form and down south where the bo
them drops off faster and you get more big sharks
closer to the beach, there's a lot more finesse, a
lot more skill involved with most of what those guys
do up here. We do have some shark fishing, but
you practically have to dump the spool of a giant

(01:10:17):
reel just to get into enough water to catch.

Speaker 1 (01:10:19):
One, except at night if you want to, if you
want to.

Speaker 2 (01:10:24):
Set up camp down there from about Freeport south at night,
you'll be probably surprised at the size of the sharks
that come in closer to the beach than you would
ever dream closer than that to feed. It's a little
bit scary to think about it, but that's what those
big sharks will do.

Speaker 1 (01:10:44):
They'll they'll move in pretty.

Speaker 2 (01:10:46):
Close farther south to go, you go the closer they get.
I've seen some surf fishing down in import in the
corpus on North Padre Island. I've seen some some pretty
darn big sharks rolling across the down there in broad
daylight and just see the big shadows on the bottom.
Every now and then you'll see a dorstal or a

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tail come out of the water. But yeah, they're they're close,
especially at first and last light. Those fish have been
up there close, trying to feed and trying to keep
that belly full.

Speaker 1 (01:11:18):
And I think if people knew how many sharks were
in the.

Speaker 2 (01:11:23):
Gulf of Mexico in water that we splash in and
surfing and fishing and play in. Mostly the people who
don't understand the water would be first to get out
because they'd be scared. But the people who do understand
and the people who do respect sharks would just heighten
their awareness and just be a little bit more vigilant,

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a little bit more careful with stringers of fish too
close to you, that kind of thing. You haven't lived
as a wade fisherman until you've had a shark grab
something off your stringer. That's a that's a wake up
call that you're you're not in charge. It really is,
and yeah, it'll it'll change your It'll change your attitude
in a big hurry. You think you're running the show

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out there, casting that lure years and catching your speckle
trout until you look down at your stringer and all you've.

Speaker 1 (01:12:14):
Got three heads. That's that's rough.

Speaker 3 (01:12:18):
U that that that that that.

Speaker 1 (01:12:22):
Uh, that's from Frankie. Thank you Frankie. And oh yeah,
J T.

Speaker 2 (01:12:28):
K wad In from Shooter's Corner kind of on the
digital licenses and tagging thing, let me see if he
highlighted anything in here, because there's an issue with the
availability of network service when you're supposed to connect and
and tag a deer immediately after it is down and

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you found it, and download the Texas Hunt Fish mobile
app that view my licenses, Tap this, tap that do
all of that general tagging.

Speaker 1 (01:13:03):
I'm trying to see if there's any.

Speaker 2 (01:13:06):
Special accommodation for places where there's no signal and I
don't want to use up.

Speaker 1 (01:13:11):
I don't want to use up this whole segment just
chitty chatting.

Speaker 2 (01:13:16):
And try to search for stuff digital tagging and physical documentation.
Here's something interesting. Oh, if data service isn't available, here
we go, Here we go.

Speaker 1 (01:13:27):
I found it. The harvest report will be saved by you. See.

Speaker 2 (01:13:32):
If data service is available, Texas Hunt and Fish Apple
will provide a confirmation number upon submission of the harvest report.
This confirmation number must be written on a durable material
attached to the harvest and maintain in legible condition. And
there's a photograph they show of just a picture of
duct tape with a sharpy written number, a five digit

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number on it.

Speaker 1 (01:13:54):
So that's what you're gonna have to affix to your animal.

Speaker 2 (01:13:59):
Says if data service is not available, the harvest report
that you just filed in the app will be saved
in an unsubmitted status. You must then write the following
information on a durable material, attach it, and ensure it
has maintained in legible condition. First and last name of

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the person who harvested. Oh, this is the difference. Instead
of just writing that six five digit number that showed
up when you had service, You're gonna have to basically
tell the game ward that the game warden shows up,
where to find your number, and it's going to be
first and last to the person who harvested the deer

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or turkey Hunting licensed customer number that's in your app,
and the date and time of the harvest. Then, as
soon as data is available, you've got to complete and
submit the harvest report in Texas Hunting Fish, which means
you've got to remember when you get back to camp

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or when you get back to the lodge or the
hotel or whatever.

Speaker 1 (01:15:04):
You can't just go off and get dinner and do
whatever you want to do.

Speaker 2 (01:15:09):
You've got to do this when service is available, and
that pretty much means when you get back to town
or you can see a cell tower outside your truck window,
confirmation number will be provided.

Speaker 1 (01:15:22):
Here we go right back to it. Keep your duct
tape in your sharpie handy.

Speaker 2 (01:15:26):
Confirmation number will be provided, which must be written on
a durable material attached to the harvest and maintained in
legible condition, so on and so forth. That number can
simply be added to the existing documentation previously attached to
the animal and must be maintained same way all the
way through.

Speaker 1 (01:15:45):
So there you have it. That's what the Parks and
Walleiffe Department says.

Speaker 2 (01:15:49):
And Jay just confirmed it for me and sent the
actual the actual passage from the Parks and Wilaffe Department's website.
So it is complicated, but not overly. So if you
don't have service and you just you should know your
own name, you ought to have that uh. Well actually

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the well, no, if you don't have service, you can't
get the.

Speaker 1 (01:16:15):
App uh somewhere in your wallet.

Speaker 2 (01:16:18):
There needs to be a little post it note that
has your hunting license number on it. So you don't
need to worry about that because there's no service. If
your phone's totally dead, you can't get on it to
find that hunting license number if you don't have it
somewhere else. So I would keep that in mind and
maybe write it on the back of one of your

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business cards and staple it to the inside of your
shell bag or something like that. Or if you have
a trusty, favorite old rifle that already looks a little
bit a little bit beat up, maybe just find a
quiet place on that gun to write your hunting license number,
or actually do that temporarily somehow, because your number is

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going to change the next year. Having one three two,
one two five seven ninety email on me Dougpike at
iHeartMedia dot com. Let me go take a quick peak
at email and then I'll move on. TikTok, TikTok. Steve Dean, Ah, yeah,
Steve Dean old school kind of like me. I'll just
keep buying paper tags.

Speaker 7 (01:17:18):
Lol.

Speaker 2 (01:17:20):
You know that they're still available for a reason, and
that's because there's a lot of people who don't trust
the technology, don't like the technology, don't want to have
to deal with the technology.

Speaker 1 (01:17:31):
Let's see, gosh, what's wrong with this day to talk of?
Klin say won't move in any event.

Speaker 2 (01:17:39):
Timber Creek Golf Club down there in Friendswood off FM
twenty three fifty one couple of miles west of the
Gold Freeway. There you will find twenty seven spectacular holes,
all of which are gonna challenge you a bit, but
not so much that you want to just quit the game.
If your swing stinks, stop by the jj Wood Golf
Academy there at timber Creek, right next to the range.

Speaker 1 (01:17:58):
If you need anything else, just find.

Speaker 2 (01:18:00):
Somebody wearing a name tag and they'll help you out.
Make your own tea time right now, Timbercrekgolf Club dot com.
That's Timbercreekgolf Club dot com. All right, welcome back Sports
Talk seven ninety the Doug Pike joh thank you for listening.

Speaker 1 (01:18:13):
I certainly do appreciate it.

Speaker 2 (01:18:15):
Seven one three two one two five seven ninety Email me,
Doug Pikediheartmedia dot com. Just sent Captain Scott a note.
He was letting me know that he likes Mike's weather page,
which I just looked at and something some dust bunny
just flew into my mouth in here.

Speaker 1 (01:18:35):
I don't know what that is. That's weird in any event, whatever, Uh, I.

Speaker 2 (01:18:44):
Think Mike's page pulls some stuff from cyclocine or the reverse.
But I think it's Mike's page adding in a layer
of cyclocane. Because Mike's page has a bunch of different
stuff on it to look at, and to me, it
almost is too it's a little too much. Maybe I

(01:19:05):
want to see that that cyclicane graph that shows the
predicted track of the storms and based on about a
dozen or more models, and then it also has an
intensity expectation based on that same number of models that
goes out for about a week or so.

Speaker 1 (01:19:28):
And so anyway, if you.

Speaker 2 (01:19:30):
Add, if I add mics to my stuff, and Captain
Scott adds cyclocane to his stuff, and.

Speaker 1 (01:19:37):
We'll be in pretty good shape. He is, he's a
little more.

Speaker 2 (01:19:41):
He's a little more enthusiastic about the National Hurricane Center stuff.
I think this year, for some reason, they decided that
as soon as something warrants a yellow checkerboard or whatever
you want to call it, we're gonna they're gonna put it.

Speaker 1 (01:19:57):
This is the conversation. Okay, here's what we're gonna do
this year, guys.

Speaker 2 (01:20:01):
As soon as something as soon as there's any organization
whatever whatsoever, shown by this system, we're gonna put a
big giant yellow checkerboard around it. And if it has
to cover half of the Atlantic Ocean, we'll use that.
The first two that came up this year one of them.
There was one out in the in the mid Atlantic

(01:20:22):
that covered an area the size of the Eastern Seaboard,
and I thought, it can't be that messed up over
that much ocean.

Speaker 1 (01:20:31):
I just refused to.

Speaker 2 (01:20:32):
Believe that, And so why they chose to change what
they typically would do the little small yellow blobs.

Speaker 1 (01:20:41):
I don't mind seeing it.

Speaker 2 (01:20:42):
Sometimes you see three or four, five of them on
the page at the same time. But if they're gonna
make them all that big, then why do we even
have anybody who lives within a thousand.

Speaker 1 (01:20:53):
Miles of the coast. It seems so doom and gloomy
to me. I just I'm not a big fan of
over doing it, as you might have guessed by now.

Speaker 2 (01:21:03):
Mike waged in and asked me if Shooter's Corner sells
hunting licenses, and I said absolutely, yes they do. And
he said, well, you don't have to tell me on
there if you don't want to. I don't want them
to be overwhelmed. Oh, they'd be happy to be overwhelmed
this time of year. I can assure you if there's
a line outside the door when you get there, and

(01:21:23):
it's my fault then I don't think anybody inside is
going to turn anybody away. These are shooters, these are hunters.
They know how important it is to get that license.
They know how important it is to get the right
AMMO and the right gun for whatever you're going to
go shoot. That's important to them. That's what they do
every day. And it doesn't take long to generate a

(01:21:46):
hunting license.

Speaker 6 (01:21:47):
Now.

Speaker 1 (01:21:48):
Captain Scott weigh in he's been using for how long
was it, Scott? Three years?

Speaker 2 (01:21:54):
Three years He's used the app to buy his hunting
license with zero issue. He says, I probably never have
a paper license again. If only I were that brave,
I'll be I'll be in line somewhere buying a license
and getting it so I can fold it up and
put it in my wallet, take out the old one,

(01:22:16):
put it in the drawer where I put all my
old licenses and duck stamps.

Speaker 1 (01:22:21):
Not a bad idea to hang on to that stamp.

Speaker 2 (01:22:22):
That's the end that bothered me all last year or
too during waterfowl season, to know that I didn't have
my stamp yet. I bought it, and I had proof
of purchase and all that stuff, but I didn't have
the physical stamp and I'm so old school. I was
born a long time before cap scot was and I'm
so old school that it just made me antsy, like,

(01:22:43):
oh my gosh, how am I going to prove I
have the stamp? I don't have the stamp all my license?
You got it on your phone? Which what do you
do if your phone dies? How are you You're gonna
get a ticket and you're gonna have to prove that
you had it, and it just.

Speaker 1 (01:22:56):
Becomes an issue.

Speaker 2 (01:23:00):
It's the same issue could be said if I lost
my wallet in the field, which is highly unlikely. By
the way, anytime you're hunting and fishing, if you're carrying
your wallet in a pocket that doesn't have a button
on it or a zipper, you're making a.

Speaker 1 (01:23:13):
Big mistake, making a big old mistake.

Speaker 2 (01:23:16):
Everybody on one of those big offshore boats, the billfish boats,
everybody's got a job, and even some smaller charter boats
going out just with the capability of going pretty far.
Let's call it just any boat that's longer than about
say thirty two feet or thirty feet if you're going

(01:23:36):
if you got thirty feet a boat under you and
you're headed out there where you can't see land anymore.

Speaker 1 (01:23:41):
Everybody needs a job.

Speaker 2 (01:23:43):
Everybody has a job, especially if you're going to be
dragging big baits and trying to catch big fish. Now,
if you're just going out there to park over a
rock or next to a rig or something and catch
red snapper, sure, everybody grab a rod, everybody drop a bait,
and we'll see what happens.

Speaker 1 (01:23:58):
But when you start trying, or.

Speaker 2 (01:24:00):
When you start setting out big live baits, then each
person's role has to be well defined and well discussed
before a bait hits the water, or you're just setting
yourself up for failure. I would when I was doing
a lot of party boat fishing one hundred years ago,
I would actually have a The first thing I'd do

(01:24:22):
when I get on the boat is have a conversation
with a deckhand or two of them. Usually they're standing
around together as everybody's loading up. I just go right
to them and say, hey, man, I wouldn't mind spending
a little time on the on the bow of this
boat slinging a live bait out there somewhere, just to
see if I could catch something big. Think you guys
could help me out, And they the whole trip they'd

(01:24:43):
be bringing me little whatever, some little dinky fish that
somebody caught and was going to throw back. They'd bring
it up to me, and I'd sling it out there
as live bait, and I'd catch some pretty big stuff.
You'd be surprised at what's out there, and we'll come
come running when the dinner bell r which is essentially
what those party boats must sound like to the fish.

(01:25:04):
Wherever there's little fish, there's gonna be big fish.

Speaker 1 (01:25:07):
You just have to be patient. I'd get them.

Speaker 2 (01:25:10):
They'll do a lot of stuff for you, and it
just increases your odds, a better experience, a better catch.
The one thing I'm not gonna do anymore is go
fishing for giant amberjack. If I'm gonna be reeling them in,
I'll help you bait, I'll help you catch live baits.
I'll do whatever you want, except reel in an amberjack

(01:25:30):
that weighs more than about fifty pounds. Now I've had
that opportunity. It's fun and all when you're young and
strong and tough. But I'm not young anymore, not so
tough anymore, and I remember the punishment that a big
amberjack can put on you when you think otherwise. The

(01:25:51):
last time I did all that, there were some young
guys on the boat, and there was me and a
couple of other guys about my age, and what I
would do is drop a live bait down there, and
if I felt the initial panic in the bait fish
that meant there.

Speaker 1 (01:26:07):
Was a big amberjack on its tail.

Speaker 2 (01:26:10):
I would hand the rod to a young guy next
to me and say, hey, man, I'm gonna run in
and grab something to drink. I'm gonna get a doctor
pepper or a diet coke or something. Sure, man, you
hold this rod for me. And I'd run and I'd
look back over my shoulder and the guy would be
he'd have his belly button pinned against the rail and
the rod bent double, and he'd looked at me, like,

(01:26:31):
what have you done? It's like, good luck, have fun,
have fun. You're young, You'll be all right. I wouldn't
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(01:27:39):
Sports Talk seven ninety The Dougpike Show. Thank you for listen.
Certain to appreciate it. I grew up when baseball players.
If you didn't have if you weren't bleeding, or had
didn't have fresh stitches or a cast, then you were
expected to suit up and get out there and play.

Speaker 3 (01:27:56):
Now.

Speaker 2 (01:27:56):
I understand the investment that's been made in all these
professional players and how the teams don't want to just
make it worse and still have to pay them all
that money, because that's kind of how it works.

Speaker 1 (01:28:10):
But dog gone, we need our guys back on the
field now.

Speaker 2 (01:28:13):
The good news is all these guys they brought up
have contributed and are doing the best they can with
the tools they have at this point in their careers
to keep us going. And for the most part, they've
done a good job of it. I'm thrilled with what
those guys have done, these younger guys. Cam Smith's a
great example. Cam Smith works his tail off. He deserves

(01:28:34):
what he's got. He's done fine and ads. Once coach
said walk oh yeah, oh yeah, Dan's weighing in. And
I took a hard hit ground ball to the privates
once and this is I know Dan's age, and I
know that he wasn't wearing a cup because none of
us were back then. We didn't even know anything about cups.

(01:28:57):
And the coach just told him to walk it off. Uh,
that's yeah, that's old school baseball right there. At almost
anybody who's ever played the game long enough has gotten
hit there and it it hurts, It does hurt.

Speaker 1 (01:29:11):
Uh seven.

Speaker 2 (01:29:14):
Seven ninety Email me Dougpike at i heeartmedia dot com.

Speaker 1 (01:29:17):
Oh my word, I'm having flashback.

Speaker 2 (01:29:20):
We had we had our shortstop in high school, my
best friend, my fishing buddy for many many years.

Speaker 1 (01:29:25):
Jimmy uh got hit in the eye during practice.

Speaker 2 (01:29:30):
We of course, we didn't practice on fields that were
as nice as what the big leaguers play on, or
even what high schools play on now. And we just
had dirt, and the dirt had rocks in it, and
a ground ball was hit by the coach. We're just
running an infield drill. Ground ball hit by the coach,
it hits a rock instead of just making a short hop,

(01:29:51):
it hops up a little higher and caught Jimmy square
in the eye and for the better part of two weeks,
maybe more, maybe three, who knows, he had a black
eye and it just so and he of course, in
high school, you can't just let that go unnoticed and unrecognized.
So we had to come up with a nickname for him,

(01:30:12):
and from some point for it, I don't even remember
who came up with it, but his nickname was would
eye and yeah, that's how he went through the rest
of high school.

Speaker 1 (01:30:22):
Great guy.

Speaker 2 (01:30:23):
I haven't talked to him in so long. I would
have loved to hear from him, I really would if
any of you know him. And he had heavy Heck, he.

Speaker 1 (01:30:30):
Had four little brothers, Yeah, four little brothers.

Speaker 2 (01:30:33):
He was the oldest boy in a family of seven kids,
two girls first, then Jimmy, then four more behind him.
So if one of you little Hammond's is listening, get
a hold of your big brother and tell him to
give me a call.

Speaker 1 (01:30:49):
One of the other brothers actually coaches baseball. I think
he still does.

Speaker 2 (01:30:53):
I'm sure he does. He's an excellent coach. Excellent coach.
So maybe Jerry's listing who knows someone? Three two on
two five seven ninety. I'm really surprised that this audience,
with all the macguivers I know who listen, has it
come up with some impromptu things they've had to do
and to improvise and solve an issue in the outdoors

(01:31:17):
where you forgot something, but you were able to cobble
something together out of the the old gum wrappers in
the truck and maybe the potato chip bags and a
water bottle and a roll.

Speaker 1 (01:31:30):
Of duct tape. Who knows, who knows what that might be,
but whatever it is, I want to hear about it.
I think a lot of that.

Speaker 2 (01:31:38):
Goes on, and a lot more of that has to
go on in hunting than in fishing, because in fishing,
if you've got a hook, you're you're pretty much set.
You don't have to improv a whole lot in fishing
that I can think of offhand. It's not like you
have to modify your fishing rod.

Speaker 3 (01:31:56):
Now.

Speaker 1 (01:31:57):
I have seen guys try to.

Speaker 2 (01:32:00):
Makeshift rod tips when they've snapped a tip in a
car window or a door or a ceiling fan or whatever,
but those never really turn out well. The The alternative
is going to be just take some take some wirecutters

(01:32:22):
and clip.

Speaker 1 (01:32:23):
The rod right.

Speaker 2 (01:32:26):
If you have extra rods, you can go ahead and
just take it home and get a new tip put
on it if the tip broke off cleanly, or you
can just snip it off at the next guy the
first actual guide on the rod and make that your tip.
It's going to change the action of the rod, but
not so much that the average person would notice.

Speaker 1 (01:32:45):
It'll still function.

Speaker 2 (01:32:47):
When I was early into my deer hunting to give
you an idea where we are now. When I was
early into deer hunting, the Los Cazadori is turt Or
contest down in South Texas warded a jacket to anybody
who was entered in the contest.

Speaker 1 (01:33:06):
And brought in a deer that scored more than one fifty.

Speaker 2 (01:33:10):
One was a boon and crocket mark, if I remember correctly,
But a one fifty would get you a jacket, a proud.

Speaker 1 (01:33:18):
Thing to wear.

Speaker 2 (01:33:19):
Not many jackets given out back then, either that's changed
a lot. Let me get Alan real quick before we
have to go to the break.

Speaker 1 (01:33:25):
What's up Allen?

Speaker 6 (01:33:28):
Hey, deg how are you doing. Cousin's got one of
them jackets.

Speaker 1 (01:33:31):
Oh man, how nice?

Speaker 6 (01:33:33):
Yeah, just showed it to me. Really nice, really nice
jacket as far as jacket goes, you know.

Speaker 7 (01:33:38):
Yeah.

Speaker 6 (01:33:38):
So you ever been to Alaska?

Speaker 3 (01:33:40):
I have not.

Speaker 1 (01:33:40):
That's one place I have not been. I opted when
I was at the paper.

Speaker 2 (01:33:44):
I had imitations, but Doggett had kind of cornered the
market on Alaska and we didn't need a bunch of
Alaska stories, so I opted for the Caribbean. And I'm
not I'm not disappointed that I did that.

Speaker 6 (01:33:55):
Hey both they both best of the two worlds, right
the man or as I so, uh so, I'm I'm
fortunately by God's grace going so.

Speaker 3 (01:34:07):
I'm just wondering.

Speaker 6 (01:34:07):
I know I need the layer up just like hunting, yep,
because I know it rains a lot in September. But
I'm but I'm wondering. Uh, you know, like like if
you're duck hunting in a in a in a decent, cloudy,
misty morning, then them them what they call them sweat
wicking shows, are they necessary?

Speaker 2 (01:34:30):
I would If you're gonna be bundled up because of rain,
you're gonna end up sweating, and I would, I would
have something on that's gonna keep that moisture away from you.
That's not a bad idea at all, because you don't
you don't want to get sweaty when it's cool.

Speaker 3 (01:34:46):
Uh.

Speaker 1 (01:34:46):
And I'm going no, no, I'm with you.

Speaker 2 (01:34:48):
Yeah, I'm using the prairie when I was a waterfowl
guide for fourteen years.

Speaker 7 (01:34:52):
Out there, Oh yeah, yeah, so many times.

Speaker 2 (01:34:55):
Yeah, so think about dressing for that and you should
be okay, yeah yeah, man, it's because I'm gonna wear.

Speaker 7 (01:35:02):
I'm gonna wear.

Speaker 6 (01:35:04):
I'm gonna wear that T shirt. Yeah, and I've got
some long sleeve flannel shirts. I'm not gonna get it.
Ain't gonna be forty blows now. And then I'm gonna
wear a decent, decent long rain second, and that should
be around my neck and I should be Yeah, you
are big.

Speaker 2 (01:35:21):
You just remember, you know, it's a whole lot easier
to take a layer off than to try to create
a layer short of knocking down a rein deer and
skinning it out and waiting for the hide to dry
and then draping that over.

Speaker 1 (01:35:35):
You don't have time for all that, man, all right, okay,
I appreciate it, Yes, sir, good luck, send pictures.

Speaker 2 (01:35:43):
Thanks all right, yes, sir, let's see here. Billy wade
in with a question, morning, doug Abe. I was curious
what you'd recommend when it comes to telescopic rods. I
kind of wouldn't really and small rod and real combos.

(01:36:05):
I think you spoke about those years ago. Uh, telescopic rods,
I'm not so sure I would trust for anything bigger
than a crappie that when you get out to the
in sections of those, it's kind of it's.

Speaker 1 (01:36:19):
Kind of wonky, a little bit.

Speaker 2 (01:36:21):
Now, I have wanted to challenge myself to go out
to Blackhawk and catch some bass on a telescope. Well,
I've got two croppy rods, a little like I think
they stretch out to twelve or fourteen feet.

Speaker 1 (01:36:34):
They're pretty big, and if.

Speaker 2 (01:36:36):
I can put a little bit heavier line on them,
I have a place that I am ninety nine to
one hundred percent sure I can actually get the bite.
The problem is going to be getting those fish out
of the weeds because they have They're so limp and
so loose that I don't know if I can muscle
those fish away from the vegetation they're in before they

(01:36:59):
can get in there and just hopelessly tangle me up.

Speaker 1 (01:37:03):
When they eat and they turn.

Speaker 2 (01:37:06):
If they can get a foot up into that stuff
and then just do a couple of circles, I'll never
get them out of there with that little flimsy pole.
What the fish don't know, though, is that I'm gonna
brig that thing not with about eight or ten pound
test but about probably twenty maybe thirty pound braid, because
I know I can get the bite. They're in the dark,
almost in the dark, but when they hear that or

(01:37:29):
feel that little soft plastic bouncing around.

Speaker 1 (01:37:32):
There's gonna be a bite, so game on little fish.

Speaker 2 (01:37:37):
As far as portable rods, I would prefer to maybe
look at something just two pieces. I wouldn't want to
unless it's a fly rod. I wouldn't want anything that
breaks down into more than two pieces. And take two
three and a half foot pieces of rod and a
three and a half plus an inch case and you'll

(01:37:58):
be fine.

Speaker 1 (01:38:00):
Places I would if.

Speaker 2 (01:38:02):
You can get the chance to maybe try somebody's two
piece rods, you'll avoid the experience I had. And bear
in mind this was This was thirty years ago, probably
at least. Joe Doggett and I made a trip down
to the Bahamas the Walkers for bone fishing, and early
early in the mornings, even before we left to go

(01:38:24):
bone fishing, there was a couple of about an hour
and a half maybe two hours of daylight, and during
those two hours of daylight, he and I would walk
down to the airstrip. This was that I can't remember
the name of the resort, and anyway, it's it's on Walkers,
and it's it's the only airstrip there in the only
bay next to the airstrip.

Speaker 1 (01:38:42):
This little cove actually.

Speaker 2 (01:38:44):
Not a bay, just a cove, but it was full
of pretty big barracudas and we would go down there
and throw top waters at them.

Speaker 1 (01:38:51):
And I had gotten a top water rod for from
a two piece rod to take down there.

Speaker 2 (01:38:57):
I'd fly rods and that one and that was the
only casting rod I took. And that thing, for some reason,
the way they had engineered its backbone and its action
and all of that, even with a full sized top
water on there, I could not throw that thing more
than about twenty five yards. And I had the real

(01:39:19):
backed off all the way, whatever the technology was at
the time, and other rods, other rods that we were using,
we could throw. The dog brought a couple and I
finally had to steal.

Speaker 1 (01:39:32):
One of his from me.

Speaker 2 (01:39:34):
But with those same lure, same reel, you throw forty
forty five yards, just sing them out there. And with
that one particular rod, what it did was as the
rod unloaded coming across the top, it threw down instead
of just stopping it forward to let the line off,

(01:39:54):
just stretch out of there straight, and it created drag
when it went on on past it's straight apex and
I don't know. It's kind of hard to talk about
it and figure.

Speaker 1 (01:40:05):
It out on the radio.

Speaker 2 (01:40:06):
But the bottom line was it was a piece of junk,
and I let them know that when we got back,
and they quit making that rod pretty quick for good reasons,
for very good reasons.

Speaker 1 (01:40:17):
So try to stay away from two pieces.

Speaker 2 (01:40:19):
I'm wondering what your reasoning is behind wanting rods that
break down and the little, the smaller ultra light rigs.
I'm not a big fan of those really either unless
you're gonna be catching six inch brick trout or you're
going on a piggy perch safari something like that, because

(01:40:40):
not being able to cast and you won't be able
to cast very far and you'll just have all kinds
of issues that will come up. I bought years ago,
I bought a like a little micro spinning rod to
chase the rainbow trout that are released every year by
the state.

Speaker 1 (01:40:58):
And I learned very quickly.

Speaker 2 (01:40:59):
That with that little micro spinning rod, uh, you just
you had no control over anything. Really, it was it
was cute when a fish finally ate your little Oh
what were those spoons we threw called the ones that
looked like a They are a U an extended U shape.
I can't remember the name of them offhand, but they

(01:41:20):
were great little trout trout lures, and uh, it just
didn't work.

Speaker 1 (01:41:26):
It just didn't work.
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