Angry Bees and Maps That Are Keys

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Speaker 1 (00:02):
Let's get this party started. I just came sliding in sideways.
I'll get caught up in just a minute. What a
day it was yesterday. All kinds of things went on.
I did get a couple of little chores done. I
didn't do anything really for myself as far as outdoor recreation,
but hopefully I'll have a chance to do something this afternoon.

(00:23):
I've got a couple of chores that I've been meaning
to catch up on, and I'll get to them at
eight thirty for those of you who might be interested.
At eight thirty, I'm going to interview Captain Scott Knowle,
who is nursing himself back from not his first, but
his second encounter with Africanized honey bees. The first occurred

(00:46):
down in Central America, and this one occurred in Port O'Connor,
which is not really a place you would expect to
find Africanized honey bees. Indeed, he managed to do that,
and so we're gonna talk to him. This was just
a couple of days ago, and I've been emailing and

(01:08):
texting back and forth, is trying to check on his progress,
because that is not a good thing. At least he
said he only got he only got about two dozen
stings this time, which is an upgrade from the last
time he encountered those things. What a mess, What an

(01:29):
absolute mess. I can't imagine. And I thought I thought
we had gotten rid of those things. I really did.
I thought we were done. I thought we were done
with africanized honeybees around here, but apparently not. Let me
pull this chair over here, hold on, ah, that goes there,
this goes here, And I'm in pretty good shape now.

(01:51):
So lots of tough decisions for me and for everybody
else toward the end of this week, I guess those
of us who love the outdoors, the surfs laid down
and has been for quite a while. The South Zone
dove season opens opened what about an hour or so ago.
Bass fishing has been pretty good on the lakes to

(02:12):
our north, a little or pretty long ways I guess
north of here, depending on how close you get to
the cooler weather in these little tastes of fall we've
gotten recently until season opens next Saturday, nine days this time,
so get it why you can. And actually there have
been pretty good numbers of birds showing up behind these

(02:34):
little short bursts of north wind. Nothing at all to
even called cool, really, but it's still it's a north wind,
and where it originates it's a lot cooler than it
is when it finally gets all the way down the
continent and brushes Shuston and all. Are really good if
you like the outdoors. A really good time to live
in Texas. It really is, by the way, if you

(02:56):
don't know already, and most duck hunters do, our duck
limits are a little changed for the coming season, still
six tier per day during their shortened early season. Then
once the regular season opens. It's not like it was
not that many years ago, where you pretty much needed
to bring a calculator and a slide rule to figure

(03:17):
out what ducks you could shoot in, which ones you couldn't,
and how many of them. Let me go talk to
Brandon Brandon apparently, uh, he may have something to do.
Where is this mouse? There it is?

Speaker 2 (03:27):
I think?

Speaker 1 (03:28):
There we go, Brandon. What's up, buddy?

Speaker 3 (03:31):
I am mister Tyke heard you this morning?

Speaker 1 (03:34):
You know I'm doing okay? How about you?

Speaker 2 (03:37):
Good? No wonder?

Speaker 3 (03:38):
We have game warnings running all around. We got dove
money and everything else. And I love to see him
so too, I really do.

Speaker 2 (03:48):
Yeah, I do I really do.

Speaker 3 (03:51):
But I was gonna talk about an experience that I
had and then happened to me twice.

Speaker 2 (03:56):
And uh, I was.

Speaker 3 (03:58):
Sitting there mowing a property and I was kind of
like I got popped one time. And what happens is
the I think it's the female or whatever it is,
sends off a formal and all of a sudden, Fermont
in it. And I mean and that next thing, you know,
I drove down and then I ran into the trailer house.

(04:21):
They found me in there. I'll tell you what, Dad, Dad, Dad,
whatever you want to call it, venom or whatever they
put in you. Yes, sir, ed ed hurts like the
dickens my arm on the left side.

Speaker 1 (04:39):
Sir, go ahead, No, I'm listening.

Speaker 2 (04:43):
No it is.

Speaker 3 (04:44):
It swow my arm up for about two days, and
I guarantee you it's And when they pop you, they
don't let off. And like I say, I ran into
the trailer and they followed me in the house and
I was just sitting there swapping in them all back
and the forth so and the noise of a tractor

(05:05):
or a motor. I may be wrong, but this is
what I was told and I believe it because then
I went back out fifteen minutes later and they did
the same thing.

Speaker 1 (05:18):
Well lord, you didn't learn your lesson the first time, Brendon,
Oh yeah, the fish was gone.

Speaker 3 (05:27):
And fifteen minutes later I was kind of like, okay,
they're going now. You know that really lending about the noise.

Speaker 2 (05:36):
There is something I don't know what they do.

Speaker 1 (05:38):
That really lends credence that noise factor, because the first
time that had happened to Scott, did he encountered those things,
was done and believes it. I'll let him tell the stories.
But outboard motor running, you've got a mower running. Almost
all of these experiences come with I was mowing, I
was weed eating, I was doing something. And I wonder

(06:02):
if they don't since that as perhaps maybe a competitive
or competing hive of bees coming their way, and they
got to get out there and stop them. And they're
going to the noise. I wonder, uh, were you able
to when it first started, when you first got popped,
were you able to turn the more off? Or yeah?

Speaker 3 (06:23):
Okay, so I guess I cut it off. When I
first got popped, I swattered at it, yeah, and then
all of a sudden I cut the mower off. And
I just ran as I had. Yes, I took off runner,
and I mean it it hurts. It hurts pretty bad.

Speaker 1 (06:43):
I don't know how to.

Speaker 3 (06:44):
I mean, if I were if I were somebody and
a pastor or a ranch or whatever, the first thing
I would do is be like John Wayne and dive
in the water.

Speaker 2 (06:55):
And just say what this is. I gotta get out
of here.

Speaker 1 (07:00):
Something's gotta give. I'd almost be tempted to carry a
snorkel in my in my backpack if I was around
working around those sittings, if I could get to the water.
Holy Cally, I'm not fast enough.

Speaker 3 (07:10):
Any That's the reason they have, right, that's the reason
they have cab tractors. And uh, I mean everything's cab
because I mean it's they're tough. Yeah, they decide.

Speaker 1 (07:23):
It was one thing if a honey bee stung.

Speaker 2 (07:25):
In the initial tack, the initial tack.

Speaker 3 (07:29):
And I bet me I may be wrong, is uh
the pheromones that I mean they popped you and you swatted,
and then they sent off of it and then the
next thing, you know, the war's on.

Speaker 1 (07:43):
Yeah, how I want to know. Let's say you encounter
one Africanized bee and it stings you and you swat it.
How does that message get sent back to the hive?

Speaker 4 (07:56):
They have es?

Speaker 3 (07:59):
Yeah, if the I think, excuse me if I'm not
pronouncing it.

Speaker 1 (08:03):
Right now, you are, Yeah, And.

Speaker 2 (08:07):
That's what it is.

Speaker 3 (08:08):
And the next thing, you know, they just come in
and Dave just h it's terrible. And now I mean
they it's tough.

Speaker 1 (08:17):
It is.

Speaker 2 (08:18):
It's pretty durned tough.

Speaker 1 (08:19):
Oh man, Well, I'm glad you survived, Brendan.

Speaker 3 (08:22):
I am man, No'm I mean, I'm fine. I'm just
worried about your friend. And when he calls about it,
I mean, it is it's I mean, you're hurt for
a pretty good couple of days.

Speaker 1 (08:34):
He at least you know this time, and I think
familiarity does help. He knew what to do, he knew
what to expect. I think the first time that happened
to anybody would be even so much more frightening and
scary than the second or third time. God forbid it
ever happened that way. And poor old Scott's dealing with

(08:54):
number two here. We'll find out in a little while. Well,
good to hear from you, man.

Speaker 3 (08:59):
My main thing is, I don't know what it is
about the noise, but they're attracted to it.

Speaker 1 (09:03):
Yeah, clearly, clearly they are. And I think maybe, I
don't know. I'd have to do a lot of research.

Speaker 5 (09:09):
Scott.

Speaker 1 (09:09):
You know, I know Scott well enough to know he
does a lot of research on things like this, especially
when he's laid up.

Speaker 3 (09:14):
So I bet he'll have answers for us, yes, sir,
all right, buddy, yes sir, for him because it's painful, sir.

Speaker 1 (09:22):
All right, we'll see audios. Oh man, So two of
us in this audience, Two of us in this audience
africanized bees. Good golly, I hope not anymore, but I
suspect there are more of you. While I was a
hunting guide, I never got run down by any kind

(09:43):
of bees or wasps or whatever. But one of the
guys who guided with us somehow managed to trip over
an underground nest hive I don't know what you'd call it,
a bumblebees. And when he did, they came out and
chased him down and stabbed him all over. He was

(10:03):
puffed up like a toad frog for for several days.
Several days, and may know made old qualms about telling
everybody how much it hurt too. I can't. I that's man,
I'm gonna have nightmares about this stuff. Seven one three
two one two five seven ninety Email me Doug Pike
at iHeartMedia dot com. I was gonna talk about the limits.

(10:27):
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Speaker 3 (10:51):
Uh.

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Well, everybody who duck hunts knows what you got to
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Centers dot com. American Shooting Centers dot com. Hey nineteen
on Sports Talk seven to ninety The Dugpike Show. Thank
you for listening. Certainly do appreciate that. We'll get to
the ducks in a minute. We're gonna stay with well,
not the birds and the bees. We're just going to
go straight to the bees and talk Carl. What's up, Carl?

Speaker 4 (13:05):
Hey, good morning, Doug. Carl control.

Speaker 2 (13:08):
Yeah.

Speaker 6 (13:08):
I'm a beekeeper, and deep bees will come say hello
to you if you're out there bowing around them or
something of that nature.

Speaker 1 (13:15):
I don't want to talk to them, Carl. I don't.

Speaker 4 (13:18):
Well, well, you know what is.

Speaker 1 (13:20):
It, what drives them, what brings them to, what attracts
them to come attack you.

Speaker 6 (13:26):
I well, if you're mowing around it, I don't know.
You know, you'd have to be doctor Doolittle to figure
out what actually is doing there. You know, if I
go into my hives and they're they're basically trying to protect
their resources.

Speaker 4 (13:41):
If you're a beekeeper.

Speaker 6 (13:43):
And open them up, you know they're going to come
and get you.

Speaker 4 (13:47):
What what it is about the vibration.

Speaker 6 (13:49):
Or whatever, who knows, And it really kind of depends
on what's going on on the day. I can go
out and mow my apiary and some days if if
it's if we've got a good honey flow on and
they're busy doing other stuff and they're going to leave
me alone. If it's hot, and right now we're in
the middle of the dearth, which means they're not bringing

(14:11):
in a lot of resources and they're angry because they're hungry,
so they're going to be more protective of the resources
that they're in those highs. So it's just some of
it's a matter of time a day and everything else.
So yeah, they will come come out and get you.
One of the things that a lot of people may

(14:32):
not know is if you actually get stung or get
when you get stung by a bee, they actually have
a barb on the their stinger and that's why they
die when they do that if you'll take your fingernail
or a pocket knife or something like that and straight
that stinger out as fast as you can, because if

(14:52):
that venom stack will still pump more venom than you.
So one of the keys to reducing your reaction is
actually get that stinger out as fast.

Speaker 4 (15:01):
As you can.

Speaker 6 (15:02):
You know, I saw a story bucket knife or something
like that.

Speaker 1 (15:04):
I saw a story I think it was Thursday about
kind of flipping this around. There is a device being
developed now that uses the technology that enables that stinger
to keep pumping that stuff into you. They're going to
turn that into something that they can put in your
skin that will give you and it's very small, going

(15:25):
to give you nice long term doses of medicine without
having to go back to the doctor or whatever. It's
kind of like a patch, but it's not a patch.
It's something that delivers the same way that those stingers
deliver that venom.

Speaker 6 (15:39):
About that, Yeah, take it Mother Nature, and you know
it to something useful.

Speaker 2 (15:44):
Right.

Speaker 1 (15:45):
Yeah, Now, Carl, what's in your world? Because you're in
the bee world. What is the what is the consensus
opinion on africanized bees? Are they really a bunch of them?
Up here are they a problem anymore?

Speaker 6 (15:59):
So what I what the general consensus is is in
this part of the world, we do have Africanization in
our bee population. Now, when I say Africanization, very very
few of the bees are what you would call purebread
if any are purebread African bees. And there's no way

(16:19):
to tell with a bee unless you take it to
A and M or something like that and have the
DNA tested.

Speaker 4 (16:26):
Not doing that now, what Nope, you're not doing that.

Speaker 2 (16:30):
Now.

Speaker 6 (16:30):
What happens is and this is where so if I
buy a queen, or I breed a queen, and I
can have let's say it's an Italian queen, or I
know the genetics of that queen. The problem is is
that when she goes out and she pays sickly, makes
one mating flight, gets spread by ten to twelve drones,

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and you know, she's just it's kind of like a dog.
You know, if you have purebread dog and you let
that dog wander the streets, it's not going to necessarily
come back with the pure bread genetics that you tended
out with, right, So that's the the challenge is that
we do have Africanization genetics. Now are you know, if

(17:14):
you've got a hive of bees, is that, you know,
five percent africanization or is it fifty percent Africanization? Who knows,
but there is in this part of the world there
is Africanization, and our bees do tradition. I mean, every
hive is going to be there, right.

Speaker 1 (17:29):
Do traditional honey bees swarm that way in attack when
they're upset, Yes they will, but not not as much,
not as much.

Speaker 6 (17:43):
But in each of the breeds, if you will, has
different characteristics that you know, if you get Italian bees
there tend to be more docile than cornelia and Russian
bees and that sort of stuff. So there are characteristics
of each of those breeds, and as a bee keeper
you have to figure out whether one of those characteristics

(18:06):
you like. If you've got some Africanization in your hives,
they tend to be more aggressive in everything they do,
so they are your better honey producers. So if you
want to make the lone off honey, you want a
little bit of Africanization in your height because they're go getters.
Base they do with flowers just the same as they

(18:27):
do with you and meat. When you go they say hello,
so you know, it's it's what you want the characteristics
you want in your hives.

Speaker 1 (18:35):
That's fascinating, it really is. Carl, Thank you so much
for that call. It really explains a lot, it does. Man,
Thank you excellent. Well, have a good day, yes sir,
you too, by bye. All right, let me go see
what's on Dave's mind here, Dave, what's going on up there?
Any bees swarming around you?

Speaker 7 (18:53):
Oh lord, I don't want to be chased by bees,
snakes or bears. Okay, I'll just leave it at that.
How yesterday at that kid's fish oh man, what a
what a wonderful blessing and thing? Uh you know, there
was one young man over there. You know, he had

(19:13):
those u and I say this lovingly, then bouncy legs on,
you know, like you see some of the kids that
don't have legs, but they got the things that they
run travel.

Speaker 2 (19:25):
Yeah.

Speaker 7 (19:26):
Yeah, And he was a fishing fuol man, you know.
And then you had some of the kids that were
a little bit scared.

Speaker 2 (19:33):
And so.

Speaker 7 (19:36):
You know, I had my hat on with my guitar,
Dave on there, and so when I went in the
directors like, oh man, and I said, hey, can I
say something to them before they fish? And so I
told him, I said, hey, y'all, come out here and
have a good time. If you don't even catch nothing,
you're still going to win something. And then you'll catch

(19:56):
something too. You're going to catch the fishing.

Speaker 4 (19:57):
Fever and the oh.

Speaker 7 (20:01):
They all started laughing and everything. So, I mean, I
was kind of coaching them up. But I mean, I mean,
you know, and there were so many smiles and happy kids.

Speaker 1 (20:10):
How many of you showed up?

Speaker 7 (20:13):
Well, by the time I left, there was probably about
twenty five.

Speaker 1 (20:17):
Yeah, that's a good little crowd.

Speaker 5 (20:20):
Yeah.

Speaker 7 (20:20):
And they had all these roden riels and garbage cans
ready to rock and roll. I mean, I didn't even
have to do nothing but sit there and watch. And oh, well,
I've got some pictures of me with something, you know,
with the kids behind me fishing, and I'll send that
to you.

Speaker 1 (20:35):
Yeah, please.

Speaker 7 (20:36):
Then and then jumping fish, Oh god, okay, I done
it up yesterday. I got a couple of them big
goldfish that I've been fishing with and I put them
in my tank and I got to put the top on,
and when I walked out of there, I thought to myself,
can that fish jump out of there? Sure enough, he did,

(20:56):
so anyway. Yeah, at his live bait.

Speaker 1 (21:03):
Keep telling yourself that day. Well all right, yeah, yes
it is. You got to reach for a lord.

Speaker 7 (21:13):
Hey, I've called someone. I've caught some of my biggest
fish on just a dead bait. Oh yeah, taking it
up and down off the ground. That's that twenty two
inch permanent Yeah, yeah, good point, so very good. Hey,
I'm having fun out of here right now. Right the
breeze is going, the clouds are going by and on
the sun.

Speaker 1 (21:32):
So all right, yeah, thanks, get off, all right, audios.
Hey man, oh man. That guy, he's kind of he's
kind of LTD in living the dream man up there
going to Lake Connor every morning, probably goes back to
the house, fix his little breakfast. I don't know if
he gets up early enough to fix breakfast before he

(21:54):
goes out, but he's usually over there at that lakefront
wherever his little secret spot is over there, probably right
around sunrise. Good for him. Let's some we're close. Let's
go ahead and take this break and then we're gonna
get Captain Scott Null on the phone and get his
get his version of what happened to him earlier in
the week with these Africanized bees. We have around here.

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Welcome back The Dugpie Show on Sports Talk at seven
to ninety this Sunday morning, a beautiful Sunday morning. As
a matter of fact, I am going to push this
magic button now and bring up Captain Scott. No, Captain Scott,
what's going on?

Speaker 2 (24:00):
Man?

Speaker 4 (24:02):
Ah must last day?

Speaker 1 (24:04):
What's the buzz? Scott. I'm gonna lay them on you
all the way through.

Speaker 4 (24:09):
And I don't know if those were African or French
or Italian or you heard car I didn't you know,
I didn't hear any accents.

Speaker 3 (24:18):
Not.

Speaker 1 (24:20):
Yeah, I don't know if you could buzz with an accent.
You just wanted to get away from them.

Speaker 4 (24:25):
Man, they were batars. I can tell you that.

Speaker 1 (24:28):
So what were you doing when this happened.

Speaker 4 (24:30):
I was on a zero turn mower, mowing around the
edge of some thick brush. I take care of about
three hundred acres next door to me, and uh, we're
just don't what to do, you know, just you know,
I'm mowing, and you know me, I'm outside all day
every day doing something. Uh. You know, Camille will asks,
you know, like a little kid, don't come in till

(24:52):
the lights come on. But I was just mowing along there,
and I mean I get hit by wash all the time.
It's it's not unusual for me to get popped by
a wasp. You know, I had you know, they don't
bother me that much. You know the thing, you know
that it hurts. I got sung on the forearm as
I was mowing up around some oak trees, and you know,

(25:16):
just kind of brushed it off and went to move
out of there because you know, I don't want to
hit it anymore. I figured I got a nest to
sure close by. Usually what I do, I pull out,
I stop, I turn around and look and see see
where the nest is and then take care of that
little wasp bray. But as I was brushing that one off.
I didn't get a chance to see it. And then

(25:38):
all of a sudden, my whole head was attacked, just
a solid, buzzing attack on top of my head, my ears,
all over my face, my shoulders. Good lord, they were
just they were all over me. So I hit the
go button on the zero turn and took off the past. Yeah,

(26:00):
of course, sitting fast enough to get away from bees.
But I was still thinking was you know, because I
mean it was you know, just kind of close your
eyes and go and don't want stein in your eyes.
One got me on the eye lid, and but I
got out of that and they were still on me,
and then you know, then it starts hitting you. Okay,
these are bees. Uh turned the motor off, you know.

(26:23):
So I shut the shut the mower down and got
off of it to get away from the mower, thinking
night and you know, they're they're mad about that, that
moor engine, and now they were mad at me, and
I took off run. I didn't run like that since
I was on the police department. Man. I took off

(26:44):
and headed for the house. Uh, they've got a big
shop over there, and I was probably two hundred yards
away and I'm sprinting over there to the shop and
they're still on me, and they followed me all the
way to the shop, all my neck everywhere. I got there,
and you know, Josie, my lap pop. She and so

(27:07):
she lays in the shop and she was in there asleep,
and she sees me coming. She jumps up and hey,
it's time to play, you know, and I took off
with her, hollered at her. Of course she's she's really
good about, you know, commands me. I said, come on,
let's go, and we ran in. There's a storage place

(27:28):
inside the shop, you know, a little closed in closet
more closet thing, and we ran for that closet and
I made it inside the closet, got the door closed
with me and her in there, and one bee got
in and I managed to take care of that one
and me and are sat in there for about fifteen
twenty minutes. My head was on fire.

Speaker 1 (27:50):
Dude on the shirt.

Speaker 4 (27:51):
And we waited a little bit and came back out
and there was one buzz in here or there, but
they were all, you know, they'd kind of left went home,
and I waited a little, you know, waited about an hour,
went back over there to look, just to see, you know,
see where the hive was. And I saw them all

(28:11):
buzzing around the trees and stuff. So I didn't I
didn't venture back in or anything. I just wanted to
locate it.

Speaker 1 (28:18):
Good call God, I never saw the hive.

Speaker 4 (28:21):
I just saw them all buzzing around those trees, and
so I called they that ranch. They have an exterminator
that comes out and takes care of the house and
the barn and stuff. So I called David and he said,
I can be out there tomorrow. So I'm busy today.
They can't be out there tomorrow. So I met him
the next morning and we went out there and eased

(28:41):
around and it was kind of calm that morning. So
we just got up near those trees and stopped and
did not see a single bee. Didn't hear one, you know,
usually you can hear a hove.

Speaker 1 (28:51):
Yeah, yeah.

Speaker 4 (28:52):
And we sat there for thirty forty five minutes hour,
walked all around that edge and looked. The only thing
we come up with is maybe that was a swarm.
It was just moving, yeah, that was moving through and
they just stationed there for the afternoon. I don't know
what whatever it was, and like I said, I can't
say for certain it was Africanized bees, but the way

(29:15):
they acted and the way they chased me, I mean,
they did not give up. They were on me the
whole way.

Speaker 1 (29:22):
What Carl said that there's afriganization within their DNA now
to varying degrees and mostly just a little bit. But
if it's in that DNA and you're standing in the
wrong place, they're gonna zap you. Man. Holy cow. Yeah,
it's a lot of fun do they have if they
have a natural enemy, Scott, Maybe you should consider mowing

(29:43):
wearing a yellow jacket. That's another.

Speaker 4 (29:47):
Well. They say that the true Africanized ones they can
sing multiple times without Oh my god, Well, there was
a whole bunch of things that didn't have, you know,
then released interesting all behind my ears and all my cheek,
and then I probably had I don't know, probably a

(30:09):
dozen or so stingers that were still in me, good lord,
and I got, you know, picking those out, and had
to get Camille to get some of them when she
got home. She was she was out of town when
it happened. She got home, and some of them I
couldn't I couldn't see all that well because yeah, they were,
they were in my eye glasses on. I couldn't get

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to them.

Speaker 1 (30:31):
Understand that. Let's get out of these bees for a minute. Okay,
let's go to something a little more happy. How's your fishing.

Speaker 4 (30:37):
Been, man, it's been really good. August was incredible because
when had wind. Yeah, I mean it was just it
was dead wind, less than ten miles an hour, day
after day after day. So I spent every day I
could out on the beach front chasing tarpin. I just
found the mother load of tarping, of course, and then

(30:59):
a way on down the beach, you know, probably I
don't know, twenty five miles down. Yeah, had just found them.

Speaker 1 (31:06):
Uh.

Speaker 4 (31:07):
We were kind of hanging out out there, me and
two or three other boats, and they just would not eat.
I mean, I'll send you pictures of my graph. The
graph was full of fish for like three or four hours.
We were in sixteen to twenty feet of water and
they were just everywhere. Even the guys that you know,
my guy was fly fishing, so oh, that's tough. He

(31:29):
you know, he's blind casting and with a sinking line
and letting it go. And but the guys that were
around me, they were trolling coon pops and they only
got one. They jumped one.

Speaker 1 (31:40):
Were they moving? Were they moving or were they just
sitting the rest?

Speaker 4 (31:44):
They were just hanging out. Wow. And like I said,
sixteen to twenty foot of water and they were anywhere
from ten feet to the bottom, just solid parking. Yeah.
Then of course the very next day the wind started blowing,
of course, straight out of the east, where makes it
really hard to get down there and get back down
the beach and get straight down the beach. But since

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then it's it's blown pretty good. Most days. It's not terrible.
You know, they're not talking, you know, twenty twenty five
or anything, but anything over you know, twelve fourteen makes
a beach kind of choppy. And what I found is
the white Caps start at about twelve miles an hour roughly,
and when the white Caps start up, that makes it

(32:29):
so hard to find those fish. Oh yeah, you can't
see them roll right. When it's calm, you're you know,
I'm running down the beach. I got that top drive.
I can be up there ill I see tarking a
quarter a half a mile. But when it gets choppy,
your head just starts spinning in every direction because everything
in the white water looks like a tarping.

Speaker 1 (32:50):
I'm looking at Port of Connor right now. You only
got ten miles an hour. It's out of the east still.

Speaker 4 (32:53):
Ye, it's not bad today. Yeah. And the day, of course,
was the day that I didn't have a trip.

Speaker 1 (32:59):
You probably don't feel like going today anyway.

Speaker 4 (33:02):
Now I'm all right, doesn't know. I took a bunch
of bend a drill and we got some sleep and
the swelling's pretty much gone down. So now I'm back
on tractor today. I get some stuff done. I got
I got some trips coming up.

Speaker 1 (33:16):
We'll stay out of the bushes.

Speaker 4 (33:17):
And we're supposed to blow this week. So I don't know.

Speaker 1 (33:20):
Do you run into Repish schools down there this time
of year.

Speaker 4 (33:23):
I haven't this year. Those years I do quite often. Yeah,
we'll see, you know, the big giant schools, but this
year just hadn't seen them. It really hadn't seen a
lot of them around the jetties either. We had a
whole bunch of guides down here over the last several

(33:44):
years that were taking out you know, corporate trips and
the once a year fishermen, and they were using their
tags consistently every day, and I think that that kind
of put a little dent in some of our bull
rid down here.

Speaker 6 (34:01):
Uh.

Speaker 4 (34:01):
But they're usually they're mixed in with the jacks at
the jetty. You know, we'll see them mixed together. And
it really hadn't seen a whole lot of them. A
lot of jacks, some monster jacks, boy, but very few
red fish mixed in with them. I do see some
stuff down deep when I'm seeing that that could be
could be bull reds. And I've got some some those

(34:22):
slow fall jigs and I got some rigs set up
for that. I think I'm gonna try that something this
week and see if maybe some bullreds are down there
underneath those jacks. But hadn't had a chance to do
that here.

Speaker 1 (34:36):
Recently, but I guess not.

Speaker 4 (34:39):
But yeah, it's uh, it's good. I mean the water's clear. Hell.
I had a kingfish sky up in the bay on
the base side of the last week and it skied
you know, six eight feet, uh, you know, kind of
that same area I had you and Christian there there's
comes in the blue water was in to the jetties.

(35:00):
You could see down eight ten feet.

Speaker 1 (35:02):
That's so fun.

Speaker 4 (35:03):
The bee trunks full of rain meadows and little bee
I don't know where they all came from, but the
last two years we have had the mother load of
little baby Spanish mackerel. Oh wow, I'm talking ten to
twelve inch sh macherel. And they're out there by the Brazilians.

Speaker 1 (35:21):
Oh, man, I wish i'd have had that. Last week
when I had faux pro down there at surf side,
the whole the whole surf had just as many skip
jacks in there, and it was just so boring for me.
I couldn't stand.

Speaker 4 (35:33):
Yeah, we've had a lot of skipjacks through and well
some pretty big ones. But you go down the beach
and all the customers are, you know, they get all excited.

Speaker 3 (35:42):
Hey look birds, birds, verds.

Speaker 4 (35:43):
And skip jack. It's uh, it's Spanish macaerel. And I'll
pull over to them and you see them in the
little Spanish macarels flying out a lot. Yeah, and they're
chasing a little bitty micro bait that's you know, a
quarter a half inch inch long, and the birds coat
nuts on it. And yeah, it looks great until you
get up there and and you lose everything you got.

Speaker 1 (36:05):
For real, man, immediately, all right, Scott. It's good man.
I got to take a break here, but thank you
for the call this morning. I appreciate it. Patch up
budd ready all right, man, all right, thank you as
Captain Scott and all down there in Port O'Connor. My
gut says he's gonna be on the water this afternoon
if the wind stays down and it looks like it's

(36:27):
going to it's also looking like it's gonna kind of
change over and be more south, more pushing right onto
the beach than that that easterly pop that showed up
on the Port O'Connor. So I'm gonna let me refresh this.
I may it may change three two one, and yeah, yeah,
it's a little it's turning a little bit more south.

(36:49):
So he's got good he's got good water. I bet
he's gonna have a good time this afternoon. On the
way out Riceland Waterfowl Club, we are fast approaching real
duck season, and the even faster approach is that of
teal season, which starts next weekend. And if you don't
have a place to duck hunt yet, you might want
to get on the stick. There's only a couple of

(37:09):
spots left out at Riceland Waterfowl Club. I've been talking
to David kind of keeping in touch see what's going
on out there, and he's been busy out all the time.
He and his business partner Dave down there working on blinds,
working on moving water, working on getting water where it belongs,
pumping water if they have to, making sure all the

(37:31):
blinds are all brushed up and ready to go. But
he still wants to get a few more people on
board so that they can and they will all based
on what I saw when I made a tour of
that prairie with them, and to see where they hunted
and how they hunted. It's going to be a good
duck season for sure. We know we've got more pintails
coming down. That's one of my favorite ducks to even

(37:53):
think about getting into. And we get to shoot a
third one this year. I'll talk about that maybe when
we get back. But the bottom line is, if you
don't have a place yet, you need to get on
the stick and get in touch with David Prue at
Riceland Waterfowl Club. Great for guys who want to get
a few. You can get up to six people in
your group, okay, and the cool part about it is.

(38:13):
First of all, there's no guided hunting at all out
there with Riceland Waterfowl Club. It's all club members and
their guests. And then on top of that, what you
have is the ability to bring guests of your own
in your group. If you've got a six man group
and there's just two of you that are really wanting
to go in the morning, you can bring four guests,
not a penny more. You've already paid for six spots

(38:35):
a day. And the system he has for allocating who
gets to hunt where enables you to get the same
chance at your first choice or your second choice or
whatever every time you send in your requests, and you're
going to know exactly where you're hunting the night before,
so you don't have to go meet in the middle

(38:55):
of the night or in early morning, three o'clock, four
o'clock in the morning somewhere and then have to drive
another hour to get to your spot. When you wake
up in the morning, you go straight to your hunting
spot and nobody else is gonna be around you. All
the blinds are at least a quarter mile apart, and
a lot of them you can just you could practically
drive a truck to. If there's some of them, you
can Riceland Waterfowl Club dot com. I'm telling you, if

(39:17):
you want to have a good duck hunting year this year,
this is probably gonna be a good place for you
to be. Ricelandwaterfowl Club dot com. If you like a
good cigar or you know someone who does, you need
to get in touch with and get to know Manny Lopez.
He's the guy who started El Cubano's Cigars with his father,
both of them from Cuba, both of them formerly working

(39:39):
in Cuban cigar factories. What Many's done and his dad
did is create a factory of their own right here
in Texas City, and it's one of only about four
dozen I think it is in the entire country. Most
of them are down in Florida too. As you might expect,
they use only the finest Cuban seed tobaccos that are
raised in Central America, and every one of those leaves

(40:03):
is aged and processed when it finally gets to their place,
so that when they finally bring it out to start
rolling cigars with it, it is in absolute perfect condition.
You can watch the rolling process at their Texas City lounge.
Maybe enjoy a smoke, watch a game there. The league's
City Lounge is more it's more havana style. It's open.
They just roll up the big doors and the breeze

(40:25):
blows through there, and it's going to be more and
more comfortable as the season changes. To go down and
just grab a few friends. Go down there, buy a
couple of cigars, buy a box of cigars. By the way,
they do custom bands on their cigars too. They make
about one hundred and fifty different kinds, everything from very
mild to very robust flavors of these cigars, and they

(40:48):
will make a custom band for you so that you
can offer them to a client. Maybe buy a box
for a client you really want to take care of.
Or you're having a fundraiser and a golf tournament or shoots,
boarding clays tournament, shooting stuff, any event that merits bringing cigars.
Because most of the people are gonna like them, then

(41:09):
you need to get with Elcubano, no middleman, so you're
gonna get surprisingly good prices too on top quality cigars.
Everybody I've given one two that they made for us
over here with the with the iHeart logo, has absolutely
loved them. Elcubanocigars dot com elcubanocigars dot com eight fifty

(41:31):
five on Sports Talk sevven ninety I ran a little
bit long a minute ago, so I'm only gonna have
a couple of minutes here before we have to break
for the top of the hour. I'm looking at this
i windsurf dot com site where you get live readings.
Actually you can scroll all around this map to pretty
much the entire country. I guess I haven't even tried
to go north, but I have it focused from about

(41:54):
halfway up High Island all the way down farther than
Corpus Christy. Looks like it gets down to about close
to the bottom of the state, but not quite. I
can see San Antonio, I can see Houston, and on
this map right now, over about probably three dozen reporting stations,

(42:15):
only two are double digit wind values, and those two
are at Corpus and it looks like it'd probably be
around Port Mansfield maybe, And that's that's it. Everything else
is much less, and you get up Inland a little bit,

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and we've got five miles an hour or less and
a lot of zeros even currently, and then back up
our way in the Galveston Bay System. I'm looking at man,
I'm looking at north to northeast wind at three three
five two two two three four zero zero in eh

(43:00):
matag Order Bay. How about that? So if you can
get to the coast, it's probably gonna look pretty dog
one good. And I looked at the tide schedule this
morning because I sometimes get wild hairs and take off
and go to the beach. I'm gonna start doing that more.
I haven't done it near as much as I used
to when I was at the newspaper because I've had
other things I had to do in the afternoons. But today,

(43:23):
if you were ever gonna think about it might not
be a horrible day to be down there trying to
sneak something out of the water this afternoon because the
tide bottoms out. Let me get back to that tide
graph real quick, so I can tell you when this
is at the surfside Jetty surfside beach. Tide bottoms out
at three twenty five and starts a hard push back

(43:44):
and is probably gonna come up about a foot. Yeah,
it'll come up a solid foot before sunset and sunsets
at eight somewhere to go seven thirty. It looks like, yeah,
so seven thirty or so is gonna be sunset, and
then there's another high tide at one thirty in the morning.

(44:06):
I'm not gonna be around for that, I can assure you.
But bottom line is, if that water looks as pretty
as it does right now, after I get home and
and kind of settle in, I might have to make
another run down there. Seven one three two one two
five seven ninety. Email me Dougpike at iHeartMedia dot com.
We're gonna shift gears and talk a little golf when

(44:26):
I get back from this break at the top of
the hour. And then I promise, somehow, some way before
we get out of here, I want to go into
all these ducks and duck limits and duck seasons. And
because it's coming at us like a freight train and
I've been sidetracked a few times, I'm easily distracted. Just
wave something shiny in front of me.

Speaker 4 (44:46):
Uh.

Speaker 1 (44:46):
Seven one three two one two five seven ninety. Black
Horse Golf Club, northwest side of town. Take two ninety
to Fry Road, hang a south from there, go south
about maybe three four miles in. What you're gonna find
is golf course. On your right, you'll see golf course.
You'll see a little entrance to a neighborhood there that's
got a big old black horse on the sign, and

(45:08):
then about another half a mile south of that, you're
gonna see the gate. You'll see golf course on both sides.
And when you do, put your west blinker on and
take a west into the gate at black Horse Golf Club.
Once you get in there, get parked, get inside. The
people in the grill can't wait to serve you a
nice meal. The people in the pro shop can't wait
to serve you whatever you want. To get yourself out

(45:30):
onto the golf course and enjoy your experience even more.
They'll help you set a tea time if you need one.
They'll direct you to the range, which is huge, by
the way, there's enough room to tee up. I've been
too many big tournaments out there that took up both courses,
the North and the South, and it's amazing how many
people they can get warmed up at one time out

(45:50):
there to take care of a big charity event. South
course currently private, went that way at the beginning of
the year and they're moving forward very well with all that.
The North Course still daily fee like it always has been.
And I was out there just a week and a
half ago, a week ago, and it's it's in really
good shape. It's in really good shape. I think you'll

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enjoy it. Black Horse Golf Club dot com is a website.
You can make a tea time there anytime you'd like.
Black Horse Golf Club dot Com. All right, second five
hour starts right now. Thank you all for listening when
you do this, and I'll do that, and I'll be
in pretty good shape. By the way. Forty fifth Ryder

(46:32):
Cup coming up next weekend, I believe. Yeah, fourteen and
sevens twenty one. Well that's not next weekend, but the
weekend after. I'm sorry. The festivities will start on the thirteenth,
that says here, so and excuse me, the twenty third.
Excuse me, we've already passed the thirteenth, the twenty third,
which is nine days from now, and then wrap up

(46:53):
on the twenty eighth. I got my got my horse,
my cart ahead of my horse. Let's focus on the
he got in front of us. The Pro Corps Championship
up there in or out there in West Coast, Napa Valley.
Ben Griffin sixteen under par, leading away solid round sixty four,
sixty six seventy Jackson Coyben, an amateur still holding onto

(47:17):
second place all by himself. He shot seventy or excuse me,
sixty seven, sixty six, sixty eight Scotty Scheffler, Remember talking
about him yesterday? How who knows what he would do
and whether he would move up from way down the list.
Well he did yesterday. He shot sixty four yesterday, thank

(47:39):
you very much, to move himself into third place, all alone,
third place, all alone, despite some wayward drives. Actually it
forced him kind of hit approach shots over and under
round trees, which he did. Of course, world's number one
is gonna make some shots like that. You can't shoot

(47:59):
sixty four without a little help from the golf course,
and he got it a couple of times. But sixty four,
however he got there, kind of makes a statement, Oh yeah,
remember me, I'm the guy who won everything last year
and I'm about to do it again. Will never be
that good? I don't know what that feels like, unless maybe,

(48:20):
and I say we, because I'm pretty sure that Tiger
Woods or broy maybe Xander none of them is listening
this morning. To this show. I know that Scheffler's just
he's a different cat. Even among his professional peers, they
recognize his difference. You talk to him. Listen sometimes when

(48:41):
one of the other even other top fifty golfers in
the world is being interviewed and somebody says, what do
you think of Scotti Scheffler? Do you think he has
a chance this week? And do you think this? Do
you think that? And if it's a positive thing, they're
always going to say, yes, he got a chance until
the tournament's over, and he he's just that good. He's

(49:04):
just that good. Long way to go to even see
a glimmer of Tiger's peak performance. But but Sheffer, at
least for now, is making his presence known in a
very big way, a very big way. I love golf.
I love playing.

Speaker 3 (49:19):
You know.

Speaker 1 (49:19):
I'm sadly the heat is starting to affect me more
than it has in recent years. And I don't know.
I'm not going to be a quitter. I'll keep playing.
I got a little winded and tired the other day
when I went out and finished up playing. I think
the last four holes maybe one, two, three, four, four

(49:40):
or five. I think with a young woman named Lola,
and she is quite the junior player. Her parents had
her out there getting teed up and ready for a
for an event. I'm not sure where it is. I'll
look it up actually during the break and take a
take a peek to let you know where she's going

(50:01):
to be playing. It's not around here. I think they're
gonna have to get on a jet plane. I believe
to go to this one in any event, she's that good.
And I watched your hit a shot that I know
I can't hit, so at least one, maybe a couple
of them. But anyway, I before that I had gotten
kind of the first few holes I played. It was
still very hot and very still and very muggy, and

(50:22):
it was it was beat me up pretty good. I
really had to kind of sit back and relax and
think about it for a minute. And I was deciding,
frankly whether or not to go fish for a little while.
It wasn't like I was gonna run to take my
ball and go home, but I had options. And I
actually did squeeze in a little a couple of casts
at one place. I'll tell you something else I saw

(50:43):
interestingly yesterday, and I'm gonna find out what the source
was the lake in which my son and I used
to go out and catch when he was little. This
is six seven years ago BC, before cormorants. We would
go out there in the afternoons and without fail catch
at least fifteen or twenty bass in an hour and

(51:06):
a half, and on the best days catched twice as many.
There were some days when it was every cast on
one and a half to four pound bass, just crazy,
an amazing fishery. Yesterday, whatever the cormorants had left, somehow
had been killed by some sort of chemical spill. I

(51:29):
don't know what was. I don't know what was sprayed
into or on that lake, or pumped in there or whatever,
but it had a major fish kill. I don't think
the lake turned over and killed him. It's really not
that deep, and it's never I've never seen anything like
that before, and I've been fishing that lake for close
to ten years now. So something got in that water,

(51:52):
and hopefully we can get them all cleaned up before
they stink the place up too badly. I don't even
think the cormorants el eite those, but maybe they will,
who knows. So back to the ducks. Let's get back
to them for a minute. As most of you already
know the duck hunters in this audience, I'm sure already know,
but if you're just coming into duck hunting or wanting

(52:14):
to get started, you do need to know about the
limits because they're changing somewhat for this season. Still sixteal
a day during their shortened early season, and then once
the regular season opens November one in the South zone
November eight in the North zone. We're looking at a
six duck daily bag that goes something like this. You

(52:36):
get out a pen in a paper and write fast,
or just go to the website. You can go to
parksing Waldlife Department website. It's there up to five mallards,
but no more than two hens, three wood ducks, three pintails,
which is a nice bump from last year and years
prior and shows that efforts to boost that population have
been successful or they would not have done that. I

(52:58):
can assure you two redheads, two canvasbacks, one scalp, one
dusky duck which includes model ducks. And to keep us
on our toes, you can't shoot a model duck. You
can shoot one of the other dusky ducks if you
can tell them apart flying through your spread. You can
shoot one of them, but you can't use zepp or
you can't shoot one of the duskies or the model

(53:21):
ducks during the first five days of the season in
both zones. So put that onto a little piece of paper,
laminate it, put it in your hunting bag, and just
be sure you don't shoot the wrong ducks. On the
speaking of on the subject of duck id First of all,
I don't think anybody who's a duck hunter is going
to starve if they don't bring home many ducks that day.

(53:42):
It's kind of like fishermen. This is something we do
for recreation. We love the end result where we get
something tasty. But you don't have to do that. So
make sure you know what you're shooting at before you
shoot it. Fourteen years as a guy, I had a
few hunters who made mistakes and shot the wrong duck.
A bunch of pintails come rolling in and you've already
got your three wood ducks, let's say, and you jump

(54:04):
up and shoot and you hit a wood duck hen
that was flying with the pentails. That can happen, but
when it does, when it does, you've got to do
the right thing. Honestly, the most honest thing you can
do is call the game warden, confess your sin, and
just ask for forgiveness. Since you are actually made the

(54:25):
phone call. Didn't have to do that, but it would.
It would hang over me if I made that mistake,
because I that's just that's not who I am. So
and there's probably some game wardens out there now, I
think who would tell you to hang up and wait
until he or she can get there and write you
a ticket and pick up the bird. But I'd like
to think that preemptive honesty could at least get you

(54:47):
some sort of some sort of acknowledgment. I don't know
what it might be the bottom line though, And by
the way, don't expect that to work more than once
every few years. Because the game wardens, every game warden
the state shares information with every other game warden. They're
constantly talking to them to each other, talking back and

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forth and making sure they know who's around and who
to watch for, and what the people who they need
to watch for drive and all of that. They're very
good about knowing kind of knowing who's out there on
their turf. And if you try to fudge on that
rule and use it more than once every couple of years.

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You're probably yeah, you're probably not gonna get to say.
What you're gonna hear is I'm sorry, what was your
name again? And you'll tell them and they'll go, oh, yeah, yeah,
I know about you. And that's when you know you're
just You're just gonna have to wait until he comes
and picks up the bird and writes you a ticket
and you have it coming back to which ducks you

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can shoot? I man, I love widgeons. They're not super spooky,
and the drakes are really really good looking, especially late
in the season when they're trying to impress the hens.
I've got one of them mounted. I've got a cinnim
until the only cinnamon teal I ever even saw on
that Katie prairie to my recollection. I might have seen
one or two more at distance, flying with a bunch

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of teal, but overhead in range the only one I saw,
and I got him. And I got that bird mounted
standing on a piece of drift, which really pretty little
table mount. Beautiful thing, beautiful thing. Good heavens, this hour's
gonna go fast. I have a feeling about that seven
on three two five seven ninety Email me Doug Picke
at iHeartMedia dot com. I'll check my emails after I

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get into this break, and I promise to respond to
whatever I see in there. Belleville Meat Market always got
a big bulk pricing special available for fresh ground beef
and all their pecan smoke sausage if you want to
get a bunch of it and have a big old
backyard barbecue party or maybe a block party when the
weather gets just a teensy bit cooler. They have homemade

(56:56):
hot dogs. They have originals with war with cheddar cheese,
got hamburger patties, stuff, pork tender stuff, peppers, stuff, mushrooms,
these giant chuck wagon patties. There about a half pound
of beef seasoned and loaded with cheddar cheese. That's a
full meal hamburger patty right there. You can buy all
that stuff stuff, and you're gonna end up stuffed after

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you try to eat it all. They have the meal
out there too. The barbecue, lunch and dinner served every day,
seven days a week from Sunday from Monday through Sunday
from ten am to seven pm. Bring the kids, Bring
the family, get out there, eat lunch on the patio
after you hand them the order that you've put together
while you drove out there. Take a little bit of

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time to get out there, but once you do, you
pass that order onto the person behind the counter to
the right, and then go get in line. There's usually
a line for the meals. Go get in line to
the left and get yourself some lunch, Go eat it
on the patio comfortably, and then go back and pick
up all your stuff you're gonna take home. Belleville Meat
Market is on Highway thirty six, about fifteen minutes north

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of Sea Lely, fifteen minutes south of Hempstead. Very easy
to find and a fantastic place to drop off your
wild game. Once the hunting season starts. They process tons
of deer out there, and there's a good reason for that,
because they do a fantastic job with it. You'll have
to just see how the process works to believe it.
Take a test run out there before deer season, so

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number one, you'll know the directions. Number two. Number two,
you can see how it's going to operate. See how
efficient they are getting you in, getting you out and
then getting your meat back to you. They take an
entire building and dedicate it to deer processing during that season.
Belleville Meatmarket dot Com is a website. If you can't
get out there, they'll ship pretty much anything in the
store all the way to your house and it'll arrive

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ready to either eat or put in the fridge or
putting the freezer, or wherever it needs to be. Belleville
meat Market dot Com. If you need to tune up
your gun, or maybe get a new gun, or get
some work done on it. If you need Ammo, if
you need CAMO, if you need optics, if you need
reloading supplies. You kind of see where I'm going here
and where I'm going to send you is Shooter's Corner

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down at Power Highway in twenty ninth Street in Texas City.
If you're down on that south side, that's your spot
right there. Owners are friends of mine, Jerry and Jtk
father and son, probably two of the best gunsmiths I've
ever known. They built amazing custom rifles by the way
and knock on Wood. I have never sent a customer
a listener down there. Somebody who had a problem with

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a firearm and couldn't kind of find anybody who was
willing to work on it for less than a bunch
of money that they didn't have to spend. Every time
I've sent somebody down there, they've been able to solve
the issue at a very affordable and fair price, sometimes
if it's a little bit of nothing. I had one
instance where somebody was told he was going to have
to pay several hundred dollars to get his rifle fixed,

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and Jerry ended up fixing it for nothing. I said,
what did you have to do? How long did it take?
You said, it was just a little burr up in
there that nobody had seen. And I found it and
I got it out of there in a couple of minutes.
I wasn't gonna charge for that. That's the kind of
people they are. If you wear a badge for a
living and you get a discount on everything at Shooter's Corner,
which I think is a pretty nice thing for them

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to do. Guns, Hamo, Optics, Camo, some cool mounts from
around the world that Jerry and Jay have have both
acquired over their years of honey. Really nice place. Fun
to go in there. You'll hear a lot of stories
that everybody in there will listen to. Your stories too.
D shooters Corner Tx dot tom D shooters Corner TX

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dot com. All right, welcome back nine on Sports Talk
seven ninety nine twenty this. I'm glad to be rounding
what may be rounding third Astros by the way, taking
care of business the last couple of nights. I certainly
hope they can continue to do that. I'm a little

(01:00:49):
bit concerned at this point. They've let the Mariners sneak
back into the into the conversation, They've let the Rangers
into the conversation. We've got I had a nice stand
with the Rangers coming up, and if we don't just
pummel them, we might be on the outside looking in
before it's all over. That really kind of concerns me.

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I don't know how we're going to pull through all this.
By the way, I don't know if Scott still listened.
I kind of hope he is, because I went ahead
and did something that I've never done. I bought an
electronic hunting license, and I have just because I don't
trust my phone, just because I what if I'm in
the duck blind on the bay somewhere and I dropped

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my phone in the water or out on the prairie somewhere,
and I'm going to the blind and I dropped my
phone in the water. I lose my phone. Somebody steals
my phone. So I put the numbers off my license
on a piece of paper and I put it in
my wallet, because that's how Belton suspenders.

Speaker 4 (01:01:53):
I am.

Speaker 1 (01:01:54):
I'm old school man. I don't I don't depend one
hundred percent on a tronics for anything i'd do. And
now I'm comfortable. Like say, in town, for example, I
had to go intown and pick something up yesterday afternoon,
and I used my navigation system, not on, not from

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when I left here to go into town to go
get it. But I just kind of used my instincts
after living here for a million years and got myself
close and then put the location into the navigation system
just to see how close I was. And I was
only about two blocks away when I turned it on,
so that felt good. And then on the way out,

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I used the navigation system and lo and behold, it
showed me a faster way to get back on the
Southwest Freeway than I knew from other trips i'd made
to this one place. So you live and you learn.
I could have gotten now and from now on, I
don't need the navigation system to get to either to

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either to get there or to get home the short
cut way. The short cut way, like a lot of
times they'll do, take took me away from what I thought.
It took me away from home for about maybe half
a mile, but it also put me on the freeway
a lot faster. And one of the nicest things for

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hunters and fishermen about these navigation systems is that once
you have a place, if you can drop a I
don't even know how to drop a pin. Look, this
is my watch, Frankie. This is how I drop a pin.
Look in the kit that see that you hold the
pin up and then you drop it. That's how I
drop a pin. That's all I know. But if somebody

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tells me they've dropped a pin on a spot, I
think I could probably open it all up and go
to that spot anyway. Once I have an address, once
I have some sort of a crossroads of two county roads,
I can probably get there using that system. And it's
amazing to me to thinkin back to when the only
way we could get to a ranch, or the only

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way we could get to some remote fishing destination was
handwritten notes and directions. Go to the corner of such
and such, and then you drive about fifteen twenty miles
and you're gonna get to county Road whatever. And then
you're gonna get to dirt road. But don't take the
first dirt road. Take the second dirt road, and there's

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gonna be an old tree stump there. Well, it used
to be there. It probably still is. That kind of stuff.
We had to rely on that. That was it and
what I did. And when I got fairly good at once,
I drive somewhere, I can probably drive back there. Now
now as I'm a little bit older and my hard

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drive is a little fuller than it used to be,
it would probably take me a couple of trips to
memorize all the turns. But fifteen to twenty years ago,
when I was doing a lot of hunting in South Texas,
for example, a lot of hunting a little farther over
west to here and up into the hill country, if
I drove to the ranch one time and drove home

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one time, then I could get back in the car
and drive to that ranch and get back in the
truck then and drive to that ranch without needing directions anymore.
It just the turns looked familiar. My mind was creating
images that I used, just like the GPS uses electronic

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pinging and navigation off of our phones and whatnot. It
was fun. It was fun being that dialed in, and
I took great pride in that I've only been lost
maybe once for real. It seemed like, uh oh, I'm
in trouble here, but I got my way out of it.
I've never had to spend the night in the woods

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or anything because I got so lost. But I've had
that feeling wash over me while I was walking through
the woods a couple of times looking for deer too.
That's that's something that will turn you around very quickly,
and unless you're unless you know a place like the
back of your hand. Happens down in South Texas quite
often when people say I'm gonna I'm gonna go walk

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for an hour and a half or something, and you
can get turned around on a big enough place. You
can get turned around in a hurry and realize that
suddenly all the mesquite trees look the same, all of
that prickly pair looks the same. You can't find a road,
you can't find a fence and you just don't know
where you are. The sun's kind of going down, so

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you know where west is, but that's unless you know
that ranch. It's gonna be hard to get home. I've
had that happen to me a couple of times, but
like I said, I never had to never had to think, Okay,
I need to I need to find something I can
make a fire with, something I can keep myself warm with.
I don't know what I'm gonna now. I'm not gonna
eat overnight, not for one night. I'd start looking for

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stuff to eat the next day. Seven one three two
one two five seven. Email me Dougpike at iHeartMedia dot com.
My electronic license is in my phone. I have an
app where I can find it. I could go to
the Parks and Wildlife Department to find it. Probably because
I have the number, I think the game warden wouldn't
ask me for any more than that. I would make

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the attempt first said, look, this is my first time
on electronic license. I'm going to take a swing here.
If I can't do that, I have a piece of
paper with that number on it, and you can look
it up for yourself. And I don't think that would
be an issue. You're not going to fault me for
having a problem with the electronics. I'll tell you what.
We'll go ahead and take a break here. Let's do that,
and I'm getting kind of closer to back on time,

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and I'm going to take you to the south side
for a little golf this time. And that would be
at Timber Creek Golf Club on FM twenty three fifty
one in friends. Would about three and a half miles
maybe west of the Golf Freeway, very easy to find.
When you get there, you will notice a tin building
next to the big generous practice range. That is where

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JJ Woods and his staff can help you become a
better golfer. When you get there, you can go straight
into the pro shop if you want. And if you
haven't made a tea time at the website already, you
can ask yourself whether or not ask them, as the
people in the pro shop, whether they can get you
out quickly, and they probably can. They've got twenty seven holes,

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so they've almost always got two or at least through
the morning hours, have two groups going out at the
same time, one on let's call them AB and C
nine one on the a nine one on the B
nine and then it just rotates through that way so
they can get a lot of players out. They also
can handle a pretty good sized tournament if that's what
you're looking at. And they've got a nice place to

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get everybody fed and watered and auctioned out and silent
auctioned out and raffled out after the event. Just a
good fun place to go play golf on the south
side stays in good shape too. It's a playable course,
very playable timber Creek is there's enough sand to keep
you honest, there's enough water to keep you honest. But

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you'll you'll hit more shots into green grass than anything
else unless you're terrible at golf. And then you need
to go back over to JJ Woods. Right timber Creek
Golf Club dot Com is website. You can put a
tea time up right there, timber Creek Golf Club dot Com.
Nine three on Sports Off seven nine at the Doug

(01:09:26):
Pike Show. Thank you for listening. Let me turn this
volume down just a tad.

Speaker 2 (01:09:29):
There we go.

Speaker 1 (01:09:30):
Let's go talk to Mike. See what's on his mind. Oh,
I got the wrong mouse, my hand stole it. I
got it I got it, Frankie. All right, Mike, what's up?

Speaker 2 (01:09:36):
Man?

Speaker 8 (01:09:37):
We gotta stop meeting like this.

Speaker 4 (01:09:40):
Oh.

Speaker 8 (01:09:42):
I got two pieces of advice for all you people
that depend on electronic devices.

Speaker 1 (01:09:47):
Oh, here we go, it's gotten old.

Speaker 4 (01:09:49):
Yeah.

Speaker 8 (01:09:50):
Keep the most recent published paper state and city map
you've got you can carry in your vehicle when you're
you're in the field where you're not familiar with. Always
carry a very good compass.

Speaker 1 (01:10:06):
Aim into a compass. Yeah. I think anybody who's who
can manage to work a phone can work a compass,
and that compass can bail you out. It may not
get you exactly back to where you're going, but it'll
point you in the right direction and keep you from
getting more lost than you are.

Speaker 8 (01:10:23):
Make you feel real secure at dark.

Speaker 1 (01:10:25):
Yeah, buddy, Yeah, buddy, man, that's it.

Speaker 2 (01:10:31):
That's plenty today.

Speaker 1 (01:10:34):
I'll see it.

Speaker 8 (01:10:34):
Mike, take care of it.

Speaker 4 (01:10:36):
Yeah.

Speaker 1 (01:10:37):
The paper map thing, I guarantee you you're not going
to convince anybody younger than about Frankie. Would you do
you carry a paper map? No, not a chance. Huh.
Would you know where to buy a paper map? I'd
take about a minute to think about it. You know,

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back when I was growing up when I was your
age and younger and driving and doing all that stuff.
When you pulled into a gas station to have someone
come out of that station and pump gas into your car,
and while that person was pumping gas into your car,
they would go and check the oil for you. All

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of that was being done by somebody who worked there.
You could go inside any gas station in town and
buy yourself a city map or a state map for
about a quarter, whole shooting match into end Houston, Endo End,
Texas for about a quarter with all the major roads
on it. You could find your way around. I think

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that you could probably still buy maps at bookstores. I
think that you could probably even still buy what's called
a key map, which breaks the city, this greater Houston
area of ours into blocks. And in the front of
the key map, if I remember correctly, it had a

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big orange cover on it. It was about the I
don't know, about a foot tall and about eight or
ten inches wide, maybe ten inches wide, pretty big blocks here.
But the city was broken into these blocks that covered
maybe a mile north and south of mile east and
west something like that. And each one of those blocks
is in that book with a number, and there was

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a key at the front, and you just looked at
to kind of where you were going, and you found
out what number, what page number you needed to go
to to see that part of the city, and then
you could go from there like to the next page.
It would just it was kind of easy to follow
one once you got in there. But that was like,
that was a big deal for anybody who delivered things

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around town, anybody who needed to For example, the place
I've been going down into into town, I would have
used a key map twenty years ago, or maybe maybe
a little bit more now. God I'm getting so old,
I gotta date it back a little farther. But yeah,
everybody who drove around town had a key map, or
they at least had the paper maps. That is actually

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some of what got me to some of the ranches
that I'd go to. I wouldn't I'd get written directions
from the written directions from a ranch owner or somebody
who manages a lease or something, or it'd be kind
of sketchy anyway. But with that map next to me,
I could see if I was in little Town X,

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and I had to go to little Town Y to
make a left turn, I could look at that map
and use the scale on it to see how many
miles it was going to be about, so that I
wasn't watching every time I turned a corner to see
if I'd already gotten to that town. That makes sense.
It would give you some sense of comfort and say, okay,
I got to go from A to B and it's

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gonna take me probably about forty five minutes, so at
least for the first thirty you just drove and then
you had to start looking.

Speaker 4 (01:14:00):
It was.

Speaker 1 (01:14:00):
It was fascinating and interesting.

Speaker 5 (01:14:03):
Uh.

Speaker 1 (01:14:03):
Yeah, the compass is another good idea, It really is.
That's a fantastic idea, is he He's ready to go. Yeah,
let's go ahead and do this. Hey David, what's up, buddy?

Speaker 2 (01:14:16):
Yeah?

Speaker 9 (01:14:16):
I want to talk to Doug about electronics.

Speaker 1 (01:14:18):
That's basically, let's go your own.

Speaker 7 (01:14:22):
Oh heck, I'm sorry.

Speaker 3 (01:14:23):
No, it's okay.

Speaker 1 (01:14:24):
No, I saw that. Yeah, I just jumped. I saw
who it was. I jumped, jumped the bridge and got
your own. What's up?

Speaker 9 (01:14:30):
I wanted to talk about you come about electronics earlier.
There has been one of the greatest things I think
that has helped hunters and fishermen that for that matter,
is Google Earth.

Speaker 2 (01:14:40):
Yeah.

Speaker 9 (01:14:41):
The things you can do on Google Earth. You can
measure distances, I know, and you know, I've looked at
I've looked at that too.

Speaker 4 (01:14:49):
Uh.

Speaker 9 (01:14:50):
And and you can see what's on the other side
of the fence to kind of get an eye to
kind of get a better idea of how the terrain
on property that you can access will either help or
hurt your efforts. But Google Earth that and be able
to take that to the field with you.

Speaker 2 (01:15:07):
Yeah.

Speaker 4 (01:15:08):
Uh, that's a good point.

Speaker 1 (01:15:09):
I hadn't thought about that. Yeah, you got your phone
with you, go to Google Earth and you can like,
I'm I'm hunting on this pasture A, and somebody else
owns pastor B. But I want to know what's around
that corner of that road. I can see it on
Google Earth. That's pretty cool.

Speaker 9 (01:15:23):
You can look you can see gear stands, I mean,
you can you know, when you hear shots, you can
go on Google Earth and say when, I where did
that shot come from exactly?

Speaker 4 (01:15:31):
And are they shooting?

Speaker 9 (01:15:32):
Are they shooting towards my property?

Speaker 1 (01:15:35):
Do they update those photographs regularly or do you know,
more often?

Speaker 9 (01:15:40):
More often than they used to do. Yeah, more often
than they used to. But now you can subscribe to
get some you know, pay to get some more recent
of those. But I've found that the ones that are
on there now are afully you know, I would be
eager to find out a fisherman use Google Earth.

Speaker 2 (01:15:59):
It could be used for.

Speaker 1 (01:16:00):
That, absolutely, because you can zoom in well enough to
see especially in clear water areas. It's it's far more
effective than like down here the bay system sometimes if
they shot the photographs on a windy day, just you
can see water, but you don't know how deep it is.
But along the East coast and uh in some parts
of the eastern Gulf of Mexico, and in anywhere really

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that there's good clear water in those bay systems, you
can pop that thing up there and you can see
little drop offs and just everything.

Speaker 4 (01:16:31):
You can see everything, all right, thank you for taking
my call.

Speaker 1 (01:16:34):
Yeah, man, than thank you. Thanks David. That's a very
good point. That's made a note of that. Google Earth
of course, Hey Dan for scarm buttons stand by, Hey Dan,
what's up man?

Speaker 5 (01:16:46):
Hey, youre talking about the little squares on the key map. Yeah,
and I had the story I just had to call
there and tell right years ago my daughter went to
U rusity of Texas, and I didn't like to drive
from him stead awesome, it was real flat and I
found a key map of Texas. Yeah okay, and I

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put it in my basket. I said, I put it
back because it.

Speaker 4 (01:17:09):
Was twenty two dollars. Yeah. Yeah.

Speaker 5 (01:17:11):
The next time we went down to see her on
one of the tips to U Russia Texas, I went
back to pick it up. Now I know thirty seven
different ways she gets awesome story.

Speaker 1 (01:17:24):
Yeah, that's kind of funny, man, because those maps you
could just flip from current from page to page and
find your way there, and every little back road is
on those things. It was amazing what they are now
obviously on Google Earth and and just the ways and
stuff like that. But back then that was a big deal, man.
And there are more.

Speaker 4 (01:17:43):
Works out man.

Speaker 1 (01:17:45):
That was fun.

Speaker 5 (01:17:46):
I drove my life pages with that thing because I'd
get lost in cattle wrenches and at the end of the
dead end roads and everybody O, my.

Speaker 1 (01:17:53):
God, yeah, holy cow, thank you for that. Man.

Speaker 5 (01:17:57):
But there was a road between im on two ninety
over there that goes from Jersey Village up to pay
At County.

Speaker 1 (01:18:04):
Oh wow, okay, and that is the.

Speaker 5 (01:18:06):
Most scenic road you ever seen TWM. I'll be down
everybody going off, and I suggest find Jersey verus to
find that road is a five twenty nine or five
twenty five or something like that.

Speaker 1 (01:18:18):
Indeed I will. I'll go check that out. Man. Thank
you appreciate it, Yeah, thank you, I appreciate it. The
cal Yeah, that's pretty cool. You can find dozens of
ways to get where you want to be. And now
that the navigation systems will recommend the fastest route, they'll
recommend routes with or without tolls, and they are far

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more sophisticated. But back when he was talking about with
the key maps and whatnot, I think driving was a
little more adventurous. It was a little more of a
there was there was risk reward if you wanted to
take a short cut. Yeah, the map says there's a
shortcut here. Boy, if you made one wrong turn, you
might wind up in tim Buck two. That happened to

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me and my brother in law years ago. We were
going up to Whispering Pines, gonna spend the night, and
then we're gonna play in a media event the next day.
And we were gonna arrive up there about ten o'clock
at night, so we just had to work or whatever
it was. We couldn't get out of town. And we
get up there close using GPS navigation, and the system

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is telling us take a left here, take a right here,
and I've already been up there two or three times
in daylight. And suddenly we're like on a dirt road
in the middle of nowhere in East Texas, and there's
no indication that the club is closed, but it tells
us we're only just right around. The next corner is
gonna be the gate, and we end up I mean

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in the middle of nowhere. There's every now and then
we'd pass the trailer house. And this went on for
about ten to fifteen minutes, and we finally just had
to kind of reverse and back our way all the
way out of there. And I did get a hold
of the guy who had invited us up there on
the phone and he said, where are you guys? He said,
I said, well, we took this navigation system of mine

(01:20:11):
in my shiny new truck here and it got us lost.
And all we came up to is just like a
cattle guard and a gate. And he goes, I have
no idea where you are, He said, get back to
the main road and then go this way, that way,
this way that way, And we finally kind of limped
in with written directions. But it was a little it
was a little spooky being out there in the middle

(01:20:33):
of nowhere. It really was. It was crazy. All Right,
we're gonna take this little break here, and when we
get back, I'm gonna put Bob on the phone. Frankie,
let Bob know he'll be first up when we get back.
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a full service range too, by the way, and gunsmithing
at Great Gunsmithing Service at their flagship store up on
Treshwig by the big airport up there. Two more locations

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in town and make sure everybody can get what they
need before for the regular season start. I was gonna
say before hunting season starts, but does are already kicked off.
If you can't get to the store too They've got
a fantastic online system now where you can see all
the latest cool deals, and there are some good ones.
This is red tag sale season at Carter's Country, where

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hundreds of items are significantly reduced. I mean, I'm not
talking about just things you probably wouldn't buy. I'm talking
about everything you need or might want. You're probably gonna
find it on sale right now. Carterscountry dot com. That's
the website, Carterscountry dot com. Nine on Sports Talk seven

(01:21:57):
ninety The Dougpike Show. Thank you for listening. Certainly do
a pre Bob was kind enough to hold on for
quite some time through that break, and now he's on.
Let's go, Bob, what you got?

Speaker 2 (01:22:07):
A ug war great show today? You talking my language
when you're talking about key maps and all that. Yeah,
I just wanted to give you a little little information
if if some of your listris might need it. But
I bought a brand new KeyMap few years ago, and
this should tell the key Map store if you remember
it was over on West Alabama for years.

Speaker 1 (01:22:27):
Yeah, I do remember that.

Speaker 2 (01:22:31):
Yeah. And then there was a real nice guy bought
him out and he used to be on Durham right
there at the railroad tracks and he calls it Houston
Map Company. Wow, and that's where I went and bought
that key map. But he's out of business or he's moved.
I think, okay, and uh, anyhow that you could look
up I think Houston Map Company and get you a
key map like that. And then, because let me.

Speaker 10 (01:22:53):
Tell you, when these phones go out and that internet
goes out, Hey, I drive for a living, I have
to have a good way to you know, a good map,
and there's nothing better than the key map.

Speaker 1 (01:23:04):
You bring up a really good point. Let's let's go
back to Hurricane Barrel. There was no electricity anywhere for
what a week, two weeks in some places, and there
were Once the internet got back up a little bit,
people were kind of halfway finding things. But until we
had full service, I would sure like to have had
a key map if I needed to go somewhere.

Speaker 2 (01:23:27):
I may. I learned years ago. I was eighteen years
old getting in the record business, and I had learned
how to throw a key map down and get somewhere quick.

Speaker 1 (01:23:36):
Yeah, buddy, And I'll bet you had to read.

Speaker 2 (01:23:38):
One for years. And then it was funny. I was
still used the key map when I could have used
Google Maps and all that, but I was so used
to use the key map. I still used to for years.

Speaker 1 (01:23:48):
Yeah, it's comfortable, it's a it's a familiar thing. And yeah,
I don't blame you, and.

Speaker 2 (01:23:53):
You remind me of one other thing. I'm gonna let
you go. You other callers, No, you're fine. I've got
an when I travel out of town, I've got a
road out list. It's called rad M. Yeah, digged it up.
It's a Rand McNally road out lists for America.

Speaker 1 (01:24:09):
And it shows a lot of major stuff, doesn't it.

Speaker 2 (01:24:12):
I mean major and country roads. I mean it shows
just about everything, the major stuff.

Speaker 1 (01:24:18):
You're right, The country roads. Yeah, the country roads, Bob,
were so so critical to anybody who loved the outdoors
and hunted and fish and did all that stuff. Because
anybody can get on iten and go to San Antonio.
That's not hard. You can get on it and go
to the east coast or the west coast. That's not hard.
But then when you start hearing okay, now you got

(01:24:38):
to turn onto the two lane county road. Then you
got to turn onto the third dirt road. Rand McNally
had those pretty much, didn't They that's right.

Speaker 10 (01:24:47):
Yeah, man, that's exactly why I've got it, those old
farm the market roads. You know that we hunt that
we hunt and fish off sir well anyhow, But man,
I just wanted to tell you too.

Speaker 2 (01:24:58):
I really enjoyed your show.

Speaker 1 (01:25:00):
Thank you.

Speaker 2 (01:25:01):
And I'm watching golf. I'm I'm watching a lot of
golf these days because of you. I don't play it,
but I love watching it.

Speaker 1 (01:25:08):
Why don't you play it? Why don't you play?

Speaker 5 (01:25:11):
Oh?

Speaker 2 (01:25:11):
I don't know. I just fishing, hut. I just I've
gotten out there a couple of times. It's really kind
of out my thing. But I love watching those guys,
you know, in the last thirty.

Speaker 1 (01:25:21):
Minutes, you know, m they are good, man, are good.

Speaker 2 (01:25:26):
The pressure, the pressure on those guys.

Speaker 4 (01:25:28):
You know.

Speaker 1 (01:25:29):
I've had the very good fortune to play with several
professional players at pretty high levels who were we were
just playing for fun, just goofing off. And they can
do things with a golf ball when they're just goofing
off that they don't dare even try, when they're trying
to make a living and trying to earn their card
for next year and all that stuff, and it's it's

(01:25:50):
crazy to watch them do that they really, I mean,
they're magicians with these golf balls and clubs. It's amazing.

Speaker 2 (01:25:56):
Oh oh yeah, they're at a level that's just off
the charge. Yeah, you know. Anyway, and enjoy the show.

Speaker 1 (01:26:05):
Thank you, Bob, I'll see buddy audios. Drive for a
Living Ran McNally atlas of the entire country. You can find.
You can find all the farm to market roads. They
go in pretty good detail.

Speaker 2 (01:26:18):
Uh.

Speaker 1 (01:26:18):
And also that that key map, if I may have
to go buy one. My wife and I were talking
about that not that long ago, not that long ago,
because she used to use one getting around Houston, going
to to stores and opening big retail stores for a
company that's based here in Houston. And without that key map,

(01:26:39):
she probably wouldn't have been able to find what she
was looking for. And same here I I relied on
key maps for a lot of stuff I did. I
would borrow hers, is what I do. Make sure she
didn't need it, and then i'd borrow it from her.
I don't think we could afford two key maps back then,
but I may just go get another one. I think
that would I think that would surprise her. I really
do seven one three two one two five seven ninety.

(01:27:01):
I've got time for another call or two, but probably
not much more than that. I want to go back
to because we're getting right to the to the he
had just right ended hunting season. I want to make
sure that I don't let a day go by without
talking a little bit at least about safety. And I'm
not gonna be I'm not gonna play your mom and

(01:27:21):
tell you this that and the other ninety nine percent
of this audience already knows what gun safety is, already
knows how to keep from hurting somebody else or yourself
while you're out hunting. The person who always concerned me
most when I was a guide wasn't the person who
was brand new to hunting, because they would tell me

(01:27:42):
that and I would say, fine, you stay with me
and I'll I'll get you through this. It was the
person who and figure out where you are in this chain,
The person who had been enough times that his friends
thought because he had some story and he'd gone to
the shooting range with him once or twice, he's been

(01:28:04):
enough times to feel like he should know everything and
wants to present himself as if he as though he
does know everything, but he doesn't. He doesn't know some
of the little subtle things about gun safety, about gun
handling that are going to get somebody hurt someday if
he doesn't just say, look, man, I've only done this once,

(01:28:27):
or I've done some dove hunts, but I've never been
on a goose hunt, and i don't have any idea
how to shoot from a lying down position on a
rice field levee. Talk to me, Talk to your guide,
talk to your friends. Make sure they understand your level
of experience if it's not one hundred percent dialed in
for twenty or thirty years, because otherwise you run a

(01:28:50):
risk because you're trying to present yourself as being more
knowledgeable about shooting than you are. You run a risk
having a problem. And if you have a problem in
the field with a gun, something really bad can happen.
Something really bad can happen, maybe to you, maybe to
somebody else. But you just don't want that. I've been

(01:29:12):
and once again, as a guide, I ran into every
level of experience in shooting that you can imagine. I
had a guy one time we got to the field
we were gonna hunt, and he opened his trunk and
he said, hey, can you come over here for a minute. Man,
when you get finished getting dressed, it's sure. So I
get finished, I go over there and he's got a
giant bag from Academy in his trunk. It has in

(01:29:37):
it a shotgun still in the box, it has waiters
still in the box, Camo jacket, Camo, this, Camo, that,
couple of boxes, shells. He said, can you help me
get together?

Speaker 2 (01:29:49):
Yeah?

Speaker 1 (01:29:49):
I can, and don't leave my side the whole time
we're out there. And we got through it and nobody
got hurt because he admitted that he just didn't have
a clue and that and he had a great time.
And I'm sure he's been hunting since then. I'll be
back here Tuesday on KPRC at noon for fifty plus.
I'll be back in here Saturday morning or seven am.

(01:30:12):
As always, God willing for more of this. Thank you
for listening. I really appreciate it. Stay in touch, Audios,

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