Do you know how to help deer shed their antlers?

In this episode, Doug gives a recap on the smugglers. Doug, talks about the violations and fines that they received and what amount was paid. Should it have been more? Did they get off with a slap on the wrist? Plus, fishing off the bank can it be rewarding?  A caller explaines his experience to Doug and proves a lot of other fisherman wrong. Doug, also talks about the new technology and how its becoming the new normal. Yes, we're talking about forward facing sonar. Predators, what can we do to create the perfect balance in nature? Listen to what Doug has to say to a caller who brought up this important question.

Episode Transcript

Speaker 1 (00:01):
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Speaker 2 (00:10):
Now here's Doug Pike. All right, Sunday starts.

Speaker 3 (00:14):
Now, let's see if we make it at ten o'clock
without any issues, without any drama, that would be fun.
We rarely have drama. This is not a dramatic show, though,
is it Melbourne? Very low key?

Speaker 2 (00:29):
Yeah, I would say so. I would say so.

Speaker 3 (00:33):
Oh wait, I've got to get this my laptop mouse
out of my pocket. Got that so I can get
this off the screen. Yeah, we're pretty good to go.

Speaker 2 (00:42):
Yeah.

Speaker 3 (00:42):
Usually, if there is a worst case scenario about what
might happen in one of these shows, it will be
a tough question or something like that. And routinely I'll
if I get one of those, I'll throw it to
the audience, and the audience always know. I don't think
I've ever been let down by this audience. I can't

(01:03):
imagine that ever happening either. There's somebody in this audience
who knows so much about any and every little detail
in the outdoors that we can always get questions answered.
Sometimes I ask the questions myself, because I'm kind of
curious how you guys feel about different stuff going on
in the out of doors if you were, if you're

(01:23):
anything like me and have mondays off. The forecast actually
is supposed to be pretty good. Today's forecast depending on
who you like, and you'll like mine better than the
one you just heard. The one you just heard includes
a sixty percent chance of showers today. And I'm gonna
go and double check and confirm what I just looked

(01:45):
at not ten minutes ago, on a site that I like.
I am gonna have to get over to my desk
during the first break and get a different pair of
reading glasses because I can't read.

Speaker 2 (01:53):
Squat with these.

Speaker 3 (01:57):
Yeah, so the five minutes ago, not even that two
minutes ago, three minutes ago, you heard about a sixty
percent chance of showers today in the Greater Houston area. Well,
let's go with my forecast instead, because I like it
a lot better. It says here the weather today is
expected to be partly cloudy with a.

Speaker 2 (02:17):
Slight chance of drizzle.

Speaker 3 (02:21):
Rainfall totals are predicted to be light less than one
tenth of an inch.

Speaker 2 (02:26):
I like that way better. I like that a whole
lot better.

Speaker 3 (02:30):
And this one even continues to say that the barometric
pressure at seven this morning was thirty point zero six inches.
And if you really want to get in the weather
weeds solar radiation. This is currently solar radiation twenty four.
And then there's a W over M squared And I'm

(02:52):
not really sure you ever heard of that? Who's heard
of that? In this audience, I'm not really sure what
the solar radiation reading is with the twenty four w's
over at M squared. I feel like I'm reading something
on Einstein's chalkboard. Not sure what that is.

Speaker 2 (03:09):
Seven one three two one two five seven ninety.

Speaker 3 (03:12):
Email me Dougpike at iHeartMedia dot com. If you work
outside today, or play for that matter, what this forecast
should tell you is that you're probably gonna break a
little bit.

Speaker 2 (03:24):
Of a sweat.

Speaker 3 (03:26):
And so what we need outdoor exposure. We need to
be out in the sunshine or the partly cloudies, or
even on cloudy days. It just feels good sometimes to
be outside, far better for me than to be inside.
Even during Super Bowl. If they were to hold a
Super Bowl at oh, let's say it kicked off at noon.

(03:49):
I have a hunch. I have a pretty strong hunch
that viewership would drop like a stone because there are
enough of us who truly enjoy being outdoors that it
would impact Super Bowl viewing.

Speaker 2 (04:04):
All right, let me get my little mouse rolling over here.
Where did it go? My goodness?

Speaker 4 (04:08):
There?

Speaker 2 (04:09):
Oh, I saw it. There it is right there. Hey,
come on, come on mouse, I can't get him. Melvin.
See you up, Brandon? There you are, Hey, Brandon, what's up, buddy?

Speaker 5 (04:18):
Hey, good morning, mister Prokary this morning.

Speaker 2 (04:21):
I'm good, thank you.

Speaker 5 (04:23):
Good good boy.

Speaker 6 (04:25):
It feels excellent outid today.

Speaker 7 (04:26):
It's almost like in.

Speaker 2 (04:28):
Ac is very close, very close.

Speaker 5 (04:31):
Right right now.

Speaker 7 (04:33):
I have a question about I've never done it before,
and uh I want to talk about antler hunting, okay,
and your expertise. I mean, and I understand you know,
I guess I would say feed pens and stuff like that,
But how do you go about broadening your I don't
know that's broadening your scope of the area to find

(04:57):
you know, sheds.

Speaker 5 (04:59):
Well, you have my question.

Speaker 3 (05:00):
Wherever you have access to property, and whether it's a
public park, a state forest, something like that, where there
are decent numbers of deer, you have a good chance
to find the antlers that are shed annually by those
white tails in there. And there's there's one guy in
this audience who who walks in and looks for sheds

(05:24):
in the what is the Addics reservoir? You could you
can go march around the woods out there.

Speaker 2 (05:30):
Oh yeah, he folded a boy.

Speaker 3 (05:32):
He's going to be so mad at me if he's
listening this morning, because he's found some really good ones.
But pretty much anywhere there are white tailed deer, there
are going to be two shed antlers for every buck
that grew them last year come around this time, and
that that's what gives them time to grow a whole
new set.

Speaker 7 (05:50):
Before this comment, and how do you go about or
do you go down game trails? Do you just or
just scan the area?

Speaker 5 (05:58):
You just do a circle?

Speaker 2 (06:00):
Yeah, that's it.

Speaker 3 (06:01):
Yeah, it's kind of a that's kind of a vague
instruction I gave you there.

Speaker 2 (06:04):
Just go walk in the woods. Go walk in the woods, Brandon.

Speaker 3 (06:07):
You know you can't hardly take a step without tripping
over antlers.

Speaker 2 (06:10):
No, it's not that easy.

Speaker 3 (06:11):
What you have to do, though, is just kind of
adjust the way you're looking at the ground to be
looking for antlers. And if you have a couple of
sheds around the house and walk out in the woods
sometime and toss them ten yards in front of you
and see what they look like, because it is different.
I've done it on a couple that place I had
asked access to down south of town here for so long.

(06:33):
I'd go out there and and this time of year
and a little bit later routinely find maybe two or
three shed antlers. I if that's what I went down
there for, and if I put invested, say, I don't know,
an hour and a half, two hours just walking through
the woods because it's fun.

Speaker 2 (06:49):
Anyway, I'd stay on main game trails.

Speaker 6 (06:52):
You know.

Speaker 2 (06:53):
It's not something they do in seclusion.

Speaker 3 (06:54):
They're just walking along one day and it feels kind
of loose, and they'll roll the head down and shake
it around a little bit and antler comes off and
they just keep on walking. They don't they don't run
and hide. They don't have to go around the block
to drop an antler. They're just gonna drop it wherever
they are. Je Lujiah, you got I got you, Brandon

(07:18):
and these phones. These phones okay, yeah, let me do that.
Let me see if I can make Dave magically appear.
Now Brandon looks like he's back on a hold. No,
there's I got both of them on the board. Oh man,
just when I talked about nothing going wrong, just when

(07:39):
I talked about it. So we've got everybody not teed up. Brandon, Brandon,
we found you, We got you back.

Speaker 8 (07:49):
Man.

Speaker 2 (07:49):
I don't know what's going on with this board. This
is so manful. I heard you.

Speaker 7 (07:54):
There's always the rats and the rats.

Speaker 3 (07:57):
Yeah that isn't that's the truth. Yeah, And you'll find
it's interesting when you find these sheds. You're gonna look
at some of them and they're gonna be gnawed there.
There will be clear and present teeth marks in them,
and that comes from squirrels and other little rodents and
whatnot gathering up the calcium from that.

Speaker 2 (08:14):
They're eating that bone to get calcium. It's it's cool.

Speaker 3 (08:18):
You'll the first one you see, it'll be like, holy cow,
this works.

Speaker 2 (08:22):
It's really cool.

Speaker 3 (08:23):
And then your your eyes will adjust to looking down
at the ground in front of you, and the warmer
it gets, the better. An idea that's gonna be anyway,
if you don't want to step on a serpent, yeah,
it's right.

Speaker 2 (08:36):
Yeah, just just put a little time.

Speaker 3 (08:38):
In out there, and I would I would stay on
main game trails and look maybe three four feet to
either side of them as you walk, and you're you're gonna.

Speaker 2 (08:47):
Find some You're gonna find some man. Okay, yeah, it's
kind of cool. Kind I got this call. Teed it
up with a good one, Brandon.

Speaker 5 (08:54):
Thank you, man, all right, thank you for your int'll.

Speaker 2 (08:57):
Show yeah, thank you. Audios.

Speaker 5 (09:00):
Yes, sir audio.

Speaker 2 (09:02):
Okay, I can't. My button's not working in here at all. Melbourne.
Let's get Dave on the phone. Dave, what's up, my friends.

Speaker 6 (09:09):
I'm here, I'm here. I got yeah, hey, hey this morning.
You know, I got I left out at four point
thirty on eight thirty over there, and this guy in
this big truck, you know, he right on my tail.
And I was doing like fifty five and I was
doing forty five because I know about you know, deer
and stuff like that. So anyway, I come up there

(09:30):
and all of a sudden to my right there were
like four or five big doze grazing right there.

Speaker 2 (09:37):
Oh wow.

Speaker 6 (09:38):
So yeah, so this dude was right on me. So
I just kind of haunt my horn, you know, because like.

Speaker 2 (09:44):
Yeah, get him out of the road.

Speaker 8 (09:46):
Yeah.

Speaker 6 (09:46):
Well they weren't in the rock. They were right on
the grazing on the side. But still their ears went up,
and you know, and they were some pretty pretty style.

Speaker 3 (09:53):
They looked really well you know what they also could
have been also could have been bucks that shed their antlers.

Speaker 6 (10:00):
Well you know what I forgot about that. Yeah, that's
a high possibility. Yesterday I sent I sent you a
picture because after I talked to you all yesterday, then
I turned around and looked on the other side of
the trailer and truck. And what happened was, Okay, these
two guys were in the car and somehow they ran
it off into this fence.

Speaker 8 (10:21):
And into a tree.

Speaker 4 (10:23):
Yeah.

Speaker 6 (10:23):
And then yeah, and then the couple that lived there
there only couple. They were just like two thirty in
the morning, because I was there at eight o'clock that night,
the ninety four. So anyway, the one guy gets out,
the other guy starts backing it up, and he almost
backed the end of that conrad. Then they get back
in the car, leave their front bumper there with the

(10:43):
license plate, head light, outside view mirror gone, and they
drove all the way back across all that wood and
uh say line fence, you know, the chain League fence. Wow.
And then she was on the She was on the
phone with uh uh nine on one and then they said, okay,
where are you going. Well, they're heading towards forty five

(11:04):
on eight thirty. Sure enough, they called him right there
on forty five at eight thirty. Wow, four point thirty
guy comes back. And at four thirty the troop will
come back over there. And he picked up Eliza's fate.
That was the front Lin's flight. Yeah, that's him. Yesterday
afternoon though, she was talking to a game warden that
was in his boat and he was telling him. He

(11:26):
was telling them of. He was telling him, Uh, that's
the war Department, I believe right here. Anyway, she was
telling them of.

Speaker 5 (11:33):
You know, he was.

Speaker 6 (11:33):
Telling her, blow my blow my phone up. Man. You
know what, if anybody comes over here is messing with
you again, you know, just don't worry about it.

Speaker 5 (11:41):
That we're here to help.

Speaker 2 (11:43):
That's good.

Speaker 6 (11:43):
Thanks, yeah anyway, yeah, no, no, but you know that's
just things it man. You know, you know a big
white fence.

Speaker 5 (11:52):
When you said he said.

Speaker 3 (11:53):
He was drunk, you said, somehow they ran into the
the fence you know what that somehow.

Speaker 6 (11:58):
Is they were both they were drunk.

Speaker 2 (12:01):
It's some alcohol. That's what it's called alcohol.

Speaker 6 (12:05):
All right, man, they didn't go off into the water.

Speaker 3 (12:08):
Oh no, kidding lucky then all right, yeah, okay, doctor,
all right.

Speaker 2 (12:15):
Be careful, stay safe, all right, Melvin, work your magic?
You want what? Okay? Brandon? What's up?

Speaker 5 (12:21):
Man?

Speaker 2 (12:23):
Hey Doug you I'm doing well, thank you.

Speaker 6 (12:28):
I got in the couch you got it in yesterday?

Speaker 2 (12:31):
Ye fantastic, man. What color is it? Kind of blue?

Speaker 9 (12:37):
Yeah?

Speaker 2 (12:38):
We got see blue. We had blue as a theme
in our house for a long time.

Speaker 3 (12:43):
And then we're we're actually we're past that, and then
we're to a different phase and now we're kind of
leaning back, and I like blue has always been my
favorite color. To be honest with you, half, I'm dressed
like a smurf this morning.

Speaker 2 (13:00):
So who's going to win this game? Seven? How you failing?

Speaker 8 (13:08):
With the Eagles winning?

Speaker 2 (13:10):
I'd be happy. He wouldn't bother me. I don't.

Speaker 3 (13:13):
I don't bet on football. I don't bet on sports,
so I have nothing to win or lose. I was
listening interestingly, though, to some weird betting odds this morning
on this game and there are. You could get a
bet on almost anything up to and including whether or
not Travis Kelsey will propose to Swifty.

Speaker 2 (13:34):
After the game. And that's just now we know why.

Speaker 3 (13:39):
Now we know why the Chiefs are in it still
is because they're gaining so much audience from Taylor Swift
being at these games.

Speaker 2 (13:48):
Must be good to be her too, I don't.

Speaker 3 (13:50):
I think she's got something like three jets that she
flies around. Well, she doesn't fly in, but she rides
around in those jets, kind of like you and I
would take an uber only they Yeah, that's a different
world for her, and more power to her. I don't
begrudge anybody the money they've made, whatever, whatever somebody's paid them,
is exactly what they're worth.

Speaker 2 (14:08):
So that's the way I look at it.

Speaker 3 (14:11):
So, you got your new couch, you're Ready're gonna be
on the couch watching the game this even.

Speaker 6 (14:18):
I'm probably you will watch the end of the quarter
and then I will watch something else.

Speaker 3 (14:25):
Yeah, that's that's the truth, be told. That's probably what
I'm gonna do. I'll watch football and then I'll watch
something else. Then I'll come back to football. Well, I
was just disappointed. I came back to the Rockets last
night just in time to watch them lose.

Speaker 2 (14:39):
They were down.

Speaker 3 (14:40):
They had it, I think to within four and then
in the last couple of minutes when you start fouling
to try to get possessions, they ended up losing eleven
or something.

Speaker 8 (14:50):
Yeah, I was watching that. That was in markets camp.

Speaker 2 (14:54):
I got you. Hey, I'm running late, Brandon.

Speaker 3 (14:57):
I gotta go take this break, buddy. You bet I'll
talk to you next week. Okay, I'll do that, all right,
see you, Brandon.

Speaker 6 (15:09):
Rick.

Speaker 3 (15:11):
I understand from Melvin that we got time to talk,
so let's talk.

Speaker 2 (15:14):
What's up?

Speaker 5 (15:16):
Well? I wanted to funny yeah to that gentleman of that.

Speaker 3 (15:30):
Hey, hey, Rick, Rick, Rick, Rick Rick, slow down, I'm
getting on it, Rick, Listen, listen closely.

Speaker 2 (15:37):
I'm only getting about one of every three words.

Speaker 3 (15:39):
Let's let me go ahead and go to this break
and come back to you because I want to be
able to hear what you say.

Speaker 2 (15:43):
Okay, let's try that.

Speaker 3 (15:45):
All right, Well, let's take this break here and we'll
go back to Rick when we can. But I wasn't
getting but about one every three or four words, and
that's not that's not going to help Brandon shed find
sheds in the woods.

Speaker 2 (15:58):
This is Sportstock.

Speaker 9 (15:59):
Seven ninety, Facebook dot Com, slash sports Talk seven ninety
Back to the Doug Pike Show.

Speaker 2 (16:06):
What on earth is that? This is not jams and
jellyes today, Melvin? That's that's swing music, isn't it. No,
that's uh, Jeff.

Speaker 3 (16:16):
Let's swinge. It would have to be when what was that?
This is a contemporary swing type song?

Speaker 2 (16:25):
Though? Right?

Speaker 8 (16:26):
When was that?

Speaker 3 (16:27):
When was it done? Do you have the dat in
front of you published? Hold on one second, we're checking
on that right now. Would be nineteen sixty six. Okay, Yeah,
that's that's post swing.

Speaker 2 (16:40):
That would have.

Speaker 3 (16:41):
Been in its day, a contemporary version of swing. All right,
So I can't get Rick on the phone. You gotta
tap that button for me, man, Rick, let's tee it
up again, buddy, what's going on?

Speaker 1 (16:53):
Oh?

Speaker 5 (16:53):
Me and me and Melvin got it fixed. I just
needed to move about ten feet.

Speaker 2 (16:58):
Yeah, you fixed it, Thank you.

Speaker 5 (17:00):
I'll tell you what old Melvin's music today. It's got
me wanting to dance like nobody's looking.

Speaker 2 (17:06):
Listen to you, Hi stepper, get down man.

Speaker 5 (17:13):
I wanted to comment on mister Brandon's question about antwers
ship finding shit, yes, sir, Okay, me and my boys
and some other kids. We used to find them all
the time. Not all the time, but we hunted for them.
It was fun. And here's a suggestion. And we we
got really into it there for a while when they

(17:35):
were in twelve or fourteen years old. And you don't
want to do this, but like you want to. First
you want to do is you want to call your
game warden and you want to call your wild lithologists
and find out in the area you're gonna be in
or the deer starting shit aners. Okay, that's number one,

(17:58):
because you don't want to wait till they're starting to
regrow them, not what I'm fixing it to you. So
what you do, and it's not illegal, But what you
do is you find out if they're starting to shed,
and you take some hog wire, you mike, cattle panels

(18:20):
are hard to roll up, and you just set some
up and put some in a circle town down, real
secure and I like to make them in a little
circle with two tea pots and really secure them. We
don't want nothing happening here, and just pour some corn
in it. Yeah, And so what happens is that muck

(18:44):
walks up there and he's living on that corner. He
just happens to keip of one of the times one
of his antwords, Mike. You know, he's gonna may touch
that wire and it's ready to pop anyway, and it
just pops off right there, getting the favors. Now he's
gonna go out walking. I wouldn't advise him to do

(19:05):
that at its reservoir or any kind of park or anything.
But usually the antwords are knocked off by a tree
limb or something like that, and so you might want
to concentrate. If it's kind of more an open area,
you might want to concentrate around a tree. Now they

(19:27):
can drop him in a faster sure, I have found
them right in the middle of a field. But anyway,
the corn thing is pretty good. It's pretty effective. And
you walk back up there, and by God's there, you
got you. You got you a shed or two or three.

Speaker 3 (19:40):
You know, I'd heard about that and I've forgotten all
about it. I'm so glad you brought that back up. Yeah,
you kind of help them out, like kind of a
piece of string around a loose tooth when you're a kid.

Speaker 2 (19:51):
And slamming the door.

Speaker 5 (19:52):
You know.

Speaker 8 (19:53):
That's that's it.

Speaker 2 (19:54):
That's exactly.

Speaker 5 (19:55):
There's one other there's one other thing you can do, man,
people do it? Tell you can you can take a shed,
a fresh shed, I mean like a real fresh one. Uh,
somebody don't want a brand new or a deer that
was just maybe harvested in the deer season. And you

(20:16):
you're a good young dog. And they are people that
use dogs, go find them.

Speaker 2 (20:24):
I've forgotten about that too, that man, I'm so.

Speaker 8 (20:28):
Yeah.

Speaker 5 (20:28):
They feed them, you know, they cut them up and
let them chew on on them. You know, they like
that calcium too. Sure, and you know dogs like to
show and especially be a little younger. No he wants
to chew on your leg. But you know, go out
in the woods and just you know, try it because
there's some guys that are really into that. You can
probably google it.

Speaker 3 (20:49):
Yeah, that's kind of cogestion to it.

Speaker 5 (20:54):
We don't have time to get into what we talked
about after the show yesterday, but maybe we can at
some other times. But anybody wants to stow out there
and talk about finding and looking for airheads, Doug and
that after our conversation yesterday, was sure. Enjoy what y'all
got to say.

Speaker 3 (21:13):
That's yeah, I'm gonna I'm gonna put that on the
on the calendar here to talk about at some point,
because everybody who's walking through the woods, especially in South Texas,
has probably tripped over arrowheads that they never even know
knew were there.

Speaker 2 (21:27):
And we'll get into that at some point for sure.

Speaker 5 (21:29):
Any any anywhere in Texas well, just open it.

Speaker 2 (21:33):
Up to anywhere in North America. Really.

Speaker 5 (21:36):
Yeah, Well, what I want to talk about when that
time comes is what we talked about in that in
our in our text, my text message of how I
was met a guy that has over three thousand that
he's found that he took me yesterday. I sent you
the picture of what I found.

Speaker 2 (21:55):
Yeah, that's awesome.

Speaker 5 (21:56):
And he he showed me the tricks of the trade.
And when we have time, we'll talk about that.

Speaker 2 (22:03):
You got it? Yeah, thanks, Rick, That's awesome. All right,
appreciate it, buddy. Let's see all right, thanks for teeming
me up there.

Speaker 3 (22:13):
Melvin, I don't know. Once again, we have no idea.
There's been nobody in this studio, correct, Is that right?

Speaker 5 (22:20):
Melvin?

Speaker 3 (22:22):
I can't really say because I was having some problems
in here myself, but to our to the best of
our knowledge, nobody's had any reason to come in here
since yesterday when I left, and nobody else would have
been where you are. And yet there's some hiccup in
the doom of floppy.

Speaker 5 (22:44):
Well.

Speaker 3 (22:44):
I don't mean to go technical on everybody, but we're
gonna take a break.

Speaker 9 (22:50):
This is Sports Talk seven ninety Jay Houston sports Fan
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Speaker 2 (22:57):
Back to the Doug Fike Show. Allright, welcome back Doug
Flag Show on Sports Talk seven ninety. Thanks for listening.
Certainly do appreciate it.

Speaker 6 (23:05):
Man.

Speaker 3 (23:05):
I had something, something was under my right contact this morning.

Speaker 2 (23:08):
When I came in. I don't know what it was.
It felt like a shard glass.

Speaker 3 (23:12):
It's better now it's kind of down to splinter, but
it's still there's something.

Speaker 2 (23:18):
There's got to be something underneath that thing.

Speaker 3 (23:20):
Seven one three two one two five seven ninety Email
on Medugpike at iHeartMedia dot com. I had some emails
I needed to go through during the break, and I've
done that and I can. Let me see, I gotta
take that one out, take that one out, take that
one and that one out, and then I'll go to
I'll start with David's email from a discussion we had

(23:41):
yesterday about those two guys who got pulled over on
a traffic stop and turned out they were carrying illegally
transfer well, they were in the process of illegally transferring
some deer from a breeding facility to a high fence
ranch somewhere down this way. They came out I think

(24:02):
they got pulled over, I believe in Montgomery County and
were on their way south, and we talked about them,
the two of them being convicted. Hold on, I've got
that paperwork here. I want to set get the story straight.
It's right here in front of me now. Blah blah
blah blah. Here are how many violations there were. First

(24:25):
of all, the dear breeder forty one total charges. He
was in there, he's driving. I think they had one
traffic code violation, eleven penal code violations, and twenty nine
deer breeder violations under the Texas Administrative Code in Parks
and Wildlife Code. And then his business partner was charged

(24:47):
with two penal code violations twenty eight deer breeder violations,
of which he was convicted. These guys for all of
that for all of those charges.

Speaker 2 (24:58):
Somehow, some way they got out.

Speaker 3 (25:01):
Of there convicted on fifty seven deer breeder violations and
three others twelve thousand dollars in fines. David makes a
very good point, because we talked yesterday about how that
seemed unusually low, a low number of dollars, no jail time,

(25:23):
no nothing, just they're back out on the street. Somebody
wrote a check for twelve thousand and sixty dollars. But
as David pointed out, if those two guys transport the
live deer illegally also lost the deer, it added some
sting to the penalties. I'll guarantee it added sting. Those
guys missed a big payday hauling those deer down to

(25:44):
They were going to Brazoria and Duval Counties, where they intended,
according to the Parks of Wildlife story, to illegally release
the deer into the wild on private property. And the
wild on private property almost oxymoronic, except that most of
the better, bigger, high fence ranches around here, they're not.

(26:07):
It's not like they're walking around on carpet. It's still
wild land. It's just got a fence around it. Seven
one three two one two five seven ninety email on
me Dug Pike at iHeartMedia dot com. There's another one
I want to get to in here. That was from
Steve o. Oh my gosh, she sent me a bunch
of pictures of a bunch of kids with a bunch
of fish.

Speaker 2 (26:27):
This is awesome. Where did they go? Hold on, let
me put the pictures down for a second. Uh hey there,
mister Pike.

Speaker 3 (26:32):
Sorry, I haven't called lately, but wanted to let you
know that men and boy lit it up last night
down here in Galveston on Lake Madeline. Caught a couple
of dozen mid sized black drum, a small red fish,
a few big piggies, all on dead shrimp on the bottom.
Didn't keep any, but it was worth the time we spent.
Of course it was because you were fishing with your son.

Speaker 2 (26:56):
Holy cow. Yeah, it was worth the time.

Speaker 3 (26:58):
It was worth the three dollars pay for dead shrimp too.
And after everyone we have talked, you can't catch anything
down from the bank. Well yeah, amen, All these people
have been telling him he couldn't catch anything from the
bank this time of year. Uh not, so, he says,
we proved them wrong exclamation point. Indeed, you did, Steve O.

(27:21):
Indeed you did, man, well done, well done. Get in
a phone call, tell me all about it. That's kind
of cool, you know. Forever and ever and ever in
the great state of Texas. Dead shrimp fished on the
bottom has probably if you if you count numbers and
numbers alone, not species, not edible qualities, not.

Speaker 2 (27:46):
Anything else but a piece of dead shrimp.

Speaker 3 (27:51):
You peel the shell off of it, something about the
size of the tiniest little that last joint on your
little finger. Except for you, Dan, your hands are too big.
It'd take a whole shrimp to be have that big.

Speaker 2 (28:04):
So anyway, a.

Speaker 3 (28:05):
Little small piece of shrimp peeled and put onto a
relatively small hook, and you run it up kind of
like a Carolina rig. You put a little weight on
the line to hold it onto the bottom. That's probably
accounted for more caught fish, especially by younger people, and
back in the croker run days, that was as easy

(28:27):
as it got and as inexpensive, inexpensive as it got.
Half a pound of dead shrimp, a little cutting board
that you bring from the house, an old piece of
one by eight or something like that, or one by twelve,
just something you could cut bait on and then throwing
the trash can on the way home. Man, you could
sit there for hours and catch fish every time you

(28:49):
threw your bait out. There were so many little fish
all over the bottom. And now that the shrimpers are
dragging up the little crokers to take them out of
the fishery so that people who don't want to throw
lures can catch trout in the summertime, it's different.

Speaker 2 (29:06):
It's way different. Unfortunately.

Speaker 3 (29:08):
A lot of the little fish that provided so much entertainment,
so much fun for all of us who are my
age growing up and going down to the coast. It's
just not the way it was. Big croakers used to
be croakers weigh two to two and a half pounds.
Every now and then, just this big giant thing. I
think it's a red fish. I think, no, there's no spot.

(29:30):
It's a croaker too. Silver, it's a croaker. But they
were there, they were sure there, and they were darn
good eating too. No wonder trout like them so much. Well,
trout hate them because they eat the little trout eggs,
But we loved them because they were legitimately good eating fish.
Them and whiting man sand trout and take care of

(29:52):
them fresh. They're delicious. It's a little harder to catch
them now, but still a piece of dead bait soaked
on the bottom in the or just far as you
can throw it out on your snoopy rod.

Speaker 2 (30:03):
It'll get bit, it'll get bit, and you'll catch fish.

Speaker 3 (30:06):
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Speaker 2 (30:11):
Steve O, thank you for that email, man, I really
appreciate that.

Speaker 3 (30:14):
I love hearing about success stories, especially especially when it
involves going against the grain. Just you, all these guys
telling you now you just can't fish off the bank anymore.
You're gonna have to get out at the end of
a pier. You're gonna have to go out to one
of the jetties. You're gonna have to do this or
do that or whatever, to which STEVEO responded, I don't

(30:35):
know what your favorite drink is, STEVEO, but hold my
drink and watch this. Let me just put a little
dead shrimp on this line. See what happens. They caught
a bunch of fish. Let me go back over that
list one more time. A couple dozen mid sized black drum,
a small redfish, it's so fun to catch a little
bit of redfish. They're so cool and they're so mean.

(30:58):
They're just like ornery little kids that aren't getting their way.
And big he all caps, big piggies, full grown piggy
perch is a fun little fish too on lot or
dead shrimp on the bottom.

Speaker 2 (31:13):
You don't have to worry about oxygenation.

Speaker 3 (31:15):
You don't have to worry about anything but just a
little something to cut that bait on and phone to
take pictures with when your kids are smiling every time
they catch a fish. All right, we gotta take a
break here on the way out, I'm going to tell
you speaking of fishing, this.

Speaker 9 (31:32):
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Speaker 8 (31:37):
We don't get that information to them.

Speaker 2 (31:39):
This is the Doug Pike Show.

Speaker 3 (31:42):
That's an odd song selection, Hey forty nine on sports
Dog seven nine in the Doug Pike Show. Welcome in,
Thanks for listening. Let me let me see if this
hard or software is gonna work.

Speaker 2 (31:55):
No hit him for me, Alan.

Speaker 5 (31:57):
What's up man, I've swayed a few nights to that
song right there.

Speaker 2 (32:04):
Confession.

Speaker 5 (32:06):
Yeah, that's a good sight, that's a good that's one
of them good tunes back in the day if they
see I'm telling you so, look, I've killed everything in
this state at least once, maybe twice, all right, And
I'm I am, you know, I'm I'm. I hate that.
I hate that. I don't kill things just to watch
it die. Sure, And uh, but I've got bobcats cootes

(32:32):
that are that are kind of a nuisance before my
deer herd. And I really hate the shoot a marble bobcat.
But she's got kid maybe have kittens around, you know,
because I would not. I just don't feel that I
want to see would see things suffer because of my
being stupid, and you know, just trying to figure out

(32:53):
if there's a different way I can maybe the tour
of the predators of my property to go somewhere else.

Speaker 3 (33:01):
Do you do you feel like they're only going to
hang around if they're sufficient food to keep them going,
which means you've probably got a pretty healthy deer population,
You've got a pretty healthy quail population, maybe a few
quail or some sort.

Speaker 2 (33:15):
Of ground nesting birds around there.

Speaker 5 (33:17):
Otherwise they wouldn't be the Texas acres in East Texas, Okay,
Do you feel like you're just I thought the same thing.
I thought, Well, if I got bombcasts gouges around there,
I must have a decent, healthy herd of you know, animals.

Speaker 3 (33:34):
But the flip side to that, though, Allen, you got
to be careful is if if they are so comfortable
and so fat and happy that they just keep breeding
and breeding and breeding, then all of a sudden you
got too many, and that the balance is going to
swing back the other way, where if you don't take predators,
you're gonna lose your stuff. Have you ever just sat
down and talked to your county biologist about that from
Parks and Wildlife?

Speaker 5 (33:56):
No, No, it's uh. I mean I probably need to
call the Jatspard County or a Newton County. Yeah, we'll
just to see if I can, you know, MA get
them out there and maybe we can you know, discuss something.

Speaker 2 (34:08):
Yeah, you can.

Speaker 3 (34:09):
I think that you can trap those animals and maybe
relocate them, but I don't know the logistics or the
legality of that. You know, one man's trash is another
man's treasure. And if you managed to trap six or
seven bobcats overnight, throw all those cages in the back
of the truck and run them about twenty miles down

(34:29):
the road to my place. If I had one up there,
I wouldn't be thrilled to wake up and see six
bobcats cruising.

Speaker 5 (34:37):
Yeah, I understand enough.

Speaker 2 (34:38):
Yeah, that's a tough one.

Speaker 5 (34:39):
I mean, it is a catch twenty two. I realize that.

Speaker 3 (34:43):
Well, you you sound like me in a lot of ways,
because you're very respectful of those animals. You don't want
to cause unnecessary suffering to five or six bobcat kittens
that are suddenly left without a mom and to take
care of them, and you wrestle with that. You don't
want to lose your your fawn crop either to the coyotes.

Speaker 5 (35:07):
Yeah, that's that's true.

Speaker 2 (35:08):
I mean, yeah, yeah, it's you know, it's just the
circle of life out there.

Speaker 3 (35:13):
I do think you would be pleasantly surprised with the
information you can learn from that county biologist.

Speaker 2 (35:19):
So I really do. I think that's a good start.

Speaker 5 (35:23):
Okay, I shot, I'll try to get a whole of
them next time I get up there, and yeah, just
chat with them.

Speaker 3 (35:31):
Yeah, well, I'll tell you what you offer to buy
one of those people lunch. They'll they'll be there before
you get there.

Speaker 2 (35:36):
They love you.

Speaker 3 (35:37):
They know so much, Allan, and they get they rarely
get phone calls from people. It's it's amazing. I've talked
to a lot of them, and yeah, you know, I
just sit here. I just go around and do my
work and do what the county and the state ask
of me. And I have a lot of knowledge. But
nobody ever calls me, call them. Okay, well, yeah, let

(35:59):
me let me know how that turns out too.

Speaker 2 (36:01):
I'd really like to know.

Speaker 3 (36:02):
Okay, well, I appreciate it, all right, thank you, man,
appreciate it by way.

Speaker 2 (36:07):
How about that.

Speaker 3 (36:09):
That's a it's a healthy dilemma in the beginning, because
that means that there's ample food to support all those predators.
But just as happened out west with the elk population
out there and the reintroduction of wolves into some of
those areas, the wolves repopulate that.

Speaker 2 (36:31):
Boy, here we come. Look at all this food we've got.

Speaker 3 (36:34):
There was one place, and I can't remember exactly where
it is, what state it's in, or maybe it's in
a national park or somewhere, but this region where when
it was really politically correct to be trying to reintroduce
wolves into a lot of areas, they did it, and
the elk population went in a very small number of

(36:57):
years from something like eleven thousand to eleven hundred.

Speaker 2 (37:04):
The wolves absolutely.

Speaker 3 (37:06):
Annihilated that elk population in there, and I'm sure also
the mule deer and anything else that they could catch
to keep feeding their growing numbers. And that's where I
got to draw the lot. If you're going to if
you're going to reintroduce something just for the sake of
reintroducing it, it better not upset.

Speaker 2 (37:27):
A very.

Speaker 3 (37:30):
A very valuable resource. The money that can be raised
by selling licenses or draw permits or whatever to go
hunt elk in an area where there are lots of elk.

Speaker 2 (37:46):
That's a big number.

Speaker 3 (37:49):
And last time I checked the amount of money raised
by people wanting to go just hold up a pair
of binoculars and look at a wolf on a hillside,
that's not so much. There's value in these resources that
has to be taken into account before you start making

(38:09):
these moves. And I'm not saying we don't need any
wolves anywhere. I'm just saying you have to balance both.
And at some point when you start looking at these
apex predators in North America, the wolf the mountain lion,
the bears. You got to draw a line somewhere and say, Okay,

(38:30):
that's too many. And when you take an elk population
down by about eighty or ninety percent in a big,
big area, that's a significant mistake.

Speaker 2 (38:43):
And it's and if.

Speaker 3 (38:45):
You really look back at it, it's probably a deliberate mistake.
Those people when they when they introduce those wolves, they
knew darn good and well what they were going to
do to the elk population.

Speaker 2 (38:56):
We saw when the elk.

Speaker 3 (38:58):
Went away, how many or when the wolves went away?
Originally there's just no wolves around here at all. But
look at a giant herd of elk up on that hillside.
Oh well, we need to reintroduce wolves.

Speaker 5 (39:11):
What for?

Speaker 2 (39:12):
Well, because there aren't any here. Well, and there aren't
any dodo birds either.

Speaker 3 (39:18):
And I'm not advocating the extinction of a species, but
I'm just saying, don't move too many too quickly into
an area and make it too easy for them to
find all the food they need and for none of
them to ever have to work for it. Because if
you can take an elk population from eleven thousand down

(39:39):
to eleven hundred in less than about fifty years, they're
not having to work for their food.

Speaker 2 (39:45):
All right, we got to take this breaks the top
of the hour. On the way out, I will tell
you all about.

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Speaker 3 (40:04):
I was talking with Melvin during the break about a
conversation that faux Pro and I had yesterday. He going
into one of the best known fishing and hunting specialty
stores in North America, and he stopped in one of
their giant locations looking specifically for floating jerk baits.

Speaker 6 (40:30):
And when he.

Speaker 3 (40:31):
Asked someone in the store to show him the floating
jerk baits, the guy took him over to a few
pegs of top waters, of clean top waters. No lip, no, nothing,
not a true jerk bait. He goes, no, no, no,
I need something with a lip on it. And this
young kid, God bless him. He works in the store,
and I'm sure he's proud to do that. Probably got

(40:53):
a couple of caps at the house and all that
got his name tag. He walks faux Pro over to
all the crank baits, no, no, no, no. And then
when he finally did find jerk baits, every one of them,
he said, every one of them, in some way, shape
or form from whatever manufacturer built them, either were suspending

(41:16):
or slow sinking.

Speaker 2 (41:19):
And that's the.

Speaker 3 (41:19):
Ones that are being used by the guys with the lipscopes.
They want to get something down there in front of
that fish, and they want to keep it there and
just annoy that fish, entice that fish whatever it takes
to make it eat. There was a picture that he
sent me the other day of two guys holding up

(41:41):
two bass, each one under each thumb. And I'm pretty
sure that in his cut line or in his explanation
of that photo, it was that those four fish weighed
more collectively than forty pounds, all four of them, taken

(42:01):
just by looking at it, by essentially by playing a
video game. And I told Melvin, I was trying to
think of where all this was going. If lipscope is
gonna be the way it goes, at some point, the
lipscope guys are gonna get tired of those fish not
eating their lures. And maybe, I don't know, five, ten,
twenty years from now, we're gonna have you ready for this, Melvin,

(42:24):
go ahead, live large mouth bass harpooning. H boy, just
gonna just watch your little stick go down there on
top of that fish's head and then just pink and
just pull them on back up.

Speaker 2 (42:39):
I mean it's sort of like spearfishing, Kiah, sort of
like it.

Speaker 3 (42:42):
But you just yeah, you could see the fish right
there on the video screen and you'll get it in
three D so you can make sure you're right over
the top of it and not just off to the
side of it or so you boy, you wouldn't want
to miss. But why bother with a roden rail, Just
poke it with a stick and bring it on back
up like flounder gigging.

Speaker 2 (43:01):
Yeah, bass gigging. That's what we're going to be doing.

Speaker 3 (43:06):
That's just it's disappointing to me as a fisherman, honestly, and.

Speaker 2 (43:10):
I know that what that's gonna do. Oh boy, I
hate to make this comparison, but I'm going to.

Speaker 3 (43:19):
What it does is that it enabling people who really
don't know how to fish without it in enabling them
to catch giant bass. And there are a lot of
guides guaranteeing eight nine ten pounders now on certain lakes
and to be able to do that is the fishing

(43:41):
equivalent of high fence deer hunting. Okay, And I have
no problem with high fence deer hunting, not at all.

Speaker 2 (43:49):
One of my a man I call a really.

Speaker 3 (43:52):
Good friend, has one of the best deer hunting operations
that in fact, a couple of people, a lot of
people I know, do this, and their places are big.
Those deer aren't just they're not fish in a barrel,
kind of like the ones on the Livescope are. You're
gonna have to work for some of these deer. But

(44:14):
with Livescope, I guess yeah, you're working. You're just idling
around the lake looking for a big, giant pass. But
what it does is enables people who don't want to
or can't or whatever invest the time in learning how
to be better fishermen or learning how to be better
deer hunters are learning how to do it just with

(44:35):
the knowledge in their brain and not.

Speaker 2 (44:38):
While watching TV.

Speaker 3 (44:41):
It kind of makes it a little too easy, and
I think taints in some ways what they're doing. And again,
I got a lot of friends who love hunting on
private high fence ranches, and I've done that many times,
and it's such a great experience because you may not

(45:05):
know what deer is going to walk out in front
of you, but you know you're gonna see some deer,
and you're gonna see some quality deer, and that that
makes it more fun than sitting in a stand all
day and seeing one dough walk out.

Speaker 2 (45:18):
I guarantee it does. I'm not knocking it. I'm not.
But on the fishing side, when when I'm hearing.

Speaker 3 (45:26):
People say, yeah, we we went bass fishing today, what'd
you catch?

Speaker 2 (45:31):
Oh?

Speaker 3 (45:31):
You know what, Well, really we didn't. We didn't even
make a cast. We never really saw one we liked. Like,
holy cow, how is that fishing? That's a boat ride?
Why don't you just get a gondola and get somebody
to pull you around the lake and watch your little TV,
have a little sangria and see how it turns out.
Once again, you know, I'm not knocking it, Okay, I

(45:53):
don't want I don't want anybody calling me and telling
me their Matt faux Pro's got livescope on his boat.
I've used it. I've been there in the boat watch
the fish come up. I've watched fish eat my lure
and it is kind of cool.

Speaker 2 (46:06):
I'll give it that it is.

Speaker 3 (46:09):
However, I get when we went bass fishing on that trip,
we turned the scope off and we did at old school,
and we caught some fish doing that too, because we're
both He's a better bass fisherman.

Speaker 2 (46:22):
Than I am. Off I'll tell him that. Anyone make
him feel good anyway. I know, you know, the funk's
going to Fred. What do you mean you're better than me?
King Tik?

Speaker 3 (46:35):
And that's another guy, King Tik, and the guy who
owns an airline vacuum.

Speaker 2 (46:39):
He is an outstanding bass fisherman.

Speaker 6 (46:42):
He is.

Speaker 3 (46:42):
He and I fished Lake Conro one day and we
got skumped. If we'd have had livescope, who knows, maybe
we would have caught something.

Speaker 2 (46:50):
I don't know. I don't care.

Speaker 3 (46:51):
We still had a good time and we fished our
tails off man and we couldn't get bit. Drove us crazy,
Believe me, when two guys who who know how to
fish go out there and fish and don't catch anything.
And we didn't fish all day, We just fished for
a couple hours in the afternoon. But it was still
fun and we still got to know each other and

(47:13):
it worked out really well. And that's a big part
of fishing that I think might be lost. And that's
something that doesn't really get lost from deer hunting because
two friends usually aren't sitting in the same stand on
a deer lease. They split up when they go hunting
and then meet up and talk about it later. In fishing,

(47:34):
you talk about it while you're out there. You experience
it equally in real time. There was something funny I
saw on Facebook yesterday. This woman was talking about how
her husband had been fishing all day, came home in
a bad mood. They hadn't he and his buddy hadn't
caught a single fish all day, and they were all

(47:55):
upset about it, and he didn't really want to talk.
And then the phone rang and she heard him pick
it up and say hello, and he got into an
hour long conversation with the same guy he'd been in
the boat with all day, talking about fishing. And they
were talking about fishing. I said, yeah, I can relate

(48:17):
to that. That's exactly Yeah. What else we gotta analyze this.
We gotta figure out what happened. We got to wonder
and solve the mystery of what went wrong? Why did
we not catch any fish today, and then we really
to follow up and make sure our our our conclusions
are correct.

Speaker 2 (48:37):
We're gonna have to go again tomorrow and just see
what happens.

Speaker 3 (48:41):
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Speaker 2 (48:47):
I'm gonna wait.

Speaker 3 (48:48):
When we come back, I'll go over the Phoenix open
real quickly and maybe or maybe not touch on something
else golf related.

Speaker 2 (48:54):
Then we might talk about white mass.

Speaker 3 (48:56):
You know, Hardy, you really don't need lives cope to
find white bass if you fish form for more than
about a year and under more than one season. In
the early spring, Holy cow, they're up in the creeks
all over the place. We'll talk about that too when
we get back on the way out.

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Speaker 2 (49:20):
Back to the Doug Fike Show. Holy song today off
your playlist early something like that? What is this? I
don't recognize this? This is the Rolling Stone?

Speaker 3 (49:33):
Oh okay, that's why you know. I was never a
really super giant ban for summer. I couldn't tell you why,
but I just listened to different music and their their
music is unique when you hear a song and that,
Now that you've told me, I say, oh, yeah, okay,
I recognize it as that. But a lot of their
songs could have been done by a lot of different

(49:58):
bands and wouldn't it clearly wouldn't have sounded the same
as the way Jagger and the Boys did it. But
nonetheless they're pretty unique in their style. Would you agree, Oh,
of course. Hearing the music hour on the Doug Bike
Show or the Musical Minute, we'll just go with that.
Let me get to the Phoenix Open, the Waste Management

(50:21):
Phoenix Open. Thomas Thomas Detrie is on a tear and
the only way this is his tournament to lose. He's
got a five shot lead. When they eventually tee it up.
I don't know what time the first guys go out,
but whenever they do, they're going to be climbing up
a greased pole all day long trying to trying to

(50:45):
knock him out of that top spot. He starts today
at eighteen under par five clear of the thirteen's, and
they are Rasmus Hoyguard, Daniel Berger, Jordan Speith, who's really
coming back into form and seems to have recovered now
from whatever. There was talk earlier in the week that
there was something nagging him about that wrist still, but

(51:09):
you know what, if you're tied for second place after
fifty four holes in a PGA Tour event, that's a
pretty good painkiller. He's whatever he's doing, he's doing it right.
And on a much smaller scale. Years ago, I had
a motorcycle a dirt bike accident that took me out

(51:29):
of golf for quite some time, and when I could
finally start swinging the club again, I was very hesitant.
I was very I was far less aggressive with the
golf club than I had ever been because I loved
to swing hard, that's the baseball guy in me. And
I shot some of the best rounds ever that I
had shot that i'd ever scored. Because I wasn't swinging

(51:53):
so hard and because I had to be a little careful.
It was a little sore. Still and lo and behold,
that's what Jordan Speake's doing this week. He's playing really,
really well. He's just got I mean, you throw out
Detrie and he's tied for first with three other guys,
but you can't tie.

Speaker 2 (52:12):
You can't throw Detrie away. He's five clear of four.

Speaker 3 (52:16):
Guys and everybody else is just trying to scramble up
the leaderboard a little bit before.

Speaker 2 (52:21):
The end of the day.

Speaker 3 (52:24):
If Detrie ends up losing this tournament, he'll never shake
it out of his head. That would be a hard
We talk about all the time how PGA Tour players
are so good at just forgetting their mistakes. You make
a bad shot, you forget it. You make a bad putt,
you forget it. But man to blow a five shot
lead with eighteen holes to play, that would be hard

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to just walk away from it.

Speaker 2 (52:48):
And ah, I get them next time.

Speaker 3 (52:50):
I don't know one thing I heard this morning, and
I'll stick with golf here for just a couple of minutes.

Speaker 2 (52:56):
Am I later? Early Melvin, can I go to the bottom? Oh? Sweet?

Speaker 3 (53:03):
This is good early on all the way in this morning,
two great instructors on the PGA Tour Network talking about
not becoming obsessed with perfection in your swing and in
the shots you make. I believe I can't remember the
woman's name.

Speaker 2 (53:18):
Who was on there.

Speaker 3 (53:20):
There's a guy who hosts the show regularly and then
this woman who who he spoke with, And forgive boy,
I know they're not listening, but I apologize for not
recalling her name. It wasn't familiar to me. But she
is one of the top instructors in the country. And
they were talking about how when when you're learning the game,

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and especially if you're still a relatively high handicapper, and
you start hitting a few good shots, those few great
shots that you hit, they're good in all, but you
don't have to expect that every time. Even the best
players in the world still make really bonehead mistakes. If

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you weren't able to watch, if you want to see it,
go to some site.

Speaker 2 (54:06):
That shows the shot dispersion.

Speaker 3 (54:09):
Some maybe at the at the Phoenix Tournament this week,
there may be some place where you can see a
map of where all the player's t shots landed when
they were hitting into any one of the par threes.
One shot, get it on the green, make a putt,
get out of there, make two putts, get out with
par and look at how many of those shots missed

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the green, even when the pins were in easy positions.
They're they're not perfect by any means, but what they
are is able to control their misses better.

Speaker 2 (54:46):
Than you and I.

Speaker 3 (54:47):
If you and I miss by say, let's say you
missed by ten percent on a drive. For you and I,
our dispersion field maybe sixty yards wide, we might miss
thirty yards left of the center, we might miss thirty
yards right. Those guys only miss might maybe eight or

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ten yards in either direction off their target line most
of the time, and that's plenty good to play the game.
One of the guys, I think it was the guy
who hosts the show, pointed out that if you're tee
and off and you hit your driver and you miss
it by ten yards left or ten yards right, that's

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the shot to the left ten yards of center, ten
yards left of center, the one that you might hit
right down the middle, and then the one ten yards right.
All three are still playable. You don't have to be
perfect to play really good golf. And when their students
start talking to them, students who are becoming much better

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than they were when they started the lessons, start talking
about wanting to get better and better and better and better,
they're obsessed with it. They kind of pump the brakes
on them. Is it back up a little bit. How
many greens are you hitting in regulation? Oh, I'm hitting
twice as many as I used to. Well, then let's
let's keep focusing on developing what you got and not

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trying to find something to fix that. Because as that
the man pointed out, the host of the show said
that every shot can't be until every shot goes in
the hole.

Speaker 2 (56:25):
It's not perfect.

Speaker 3 (56:26):
And so with your irons and with your woods, well
your fair away metals and your driver, there's a there
is a there's a place you can hit it a
little left of your line and a little right of
your line that's still pretty good, still very playable. And
that's you have to consider those victories and not defeats.
If you didn't if you wanted to hit it to

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the left center of the green and you accidentally hit
it in the middle of the green, that's not a miss.

Speaker 2 (56:52):
That's still pretty close. It was, it was, and that that.

Speaker 3 (56:56):
Really caught my attention because I'm a perfectionist on the
golf course. I want every swing that I make to
be really, really good. And when I analyze the way
my game is going right now, I'm hitting more fairways
with my I struggled with driver for a long time,
so long in fact, that I had a brand new
tailor made driver in my bag for several years that

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I wouldn't even pull out of the bag, but maybe
once around. I was limping around with three woods forever,
and that was just my comfort club. I couldn't and
it turned out that it was just a bad shaft
in that driver. It wasn't the driver's fault at all.
It was just the wrong shaft, and so I couldn't
hit it. And I am a perfectionist. I wanted something
to be in the fair way every time, so I

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went down.

Speaker 2 (57:40):
To three wood.

Speaker 3 (57:40):
Now I'm able to do that with driver, and I'm also,
after listening this morning, realizing that it doesn't have to
be dead center striped. We're not trying to win a
prize in a scramble where they put that chalk line
like on a baseball field. They just spray that paint
line or chalk line right down the center of the fairway,

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and closest to the line wins nothing. You win nothing
when you're playing a regular round of golf. The only
time that you want perfection, he said, is when you're
about within four feet where a good shot, a really
good shot, is going to go in the hole every time,
and a miss is a true miss, and it costs
you a stroke. You're inside four feet now you can

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dial down to all or nothing up until then. If
you're chipping around the green, if you're in a bunker, whatever,
if you're in a bunker, just get it on the green.
That's your goal. If you're chipping, get it on the
green and keep it there. That's your goal. And you
can take a lot of pressure off yourself if you
do that. And I'm one hundred percent sure I'm going
to start playing a little bit better and having a

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little more fun realizing that the shot that I just hit,
although it missed a little bit, didn't get me in trouble,
it's still a playable shot for the next hole or
for the next shot.

Speaker 2 (58:59):
I hope that makes sense. I'll step back from that
for a minute.

Speaker 3 (59:02):
It really puts the game in the expectation in perspective
when you look at it that way, and it's definitely
taken some pressure off of myself. In my own head,
I won't go out there expecting every shot to be
really great.

Speaker 2 (59:16):
If it's playable, if I can see it at the
end of it.

Speaker 3 (59:19):
My drives, I jokingly say, if I can see my
drive when it stops rolling or where wherever it.

Speaker 2 (59:26):
Is then that's a good one. I'll be okay.

Speaker 3 (59:30):
Seven one three two one two five seven ninety email
on me, Dougpike at iHeartMedia dot com. I promise to
talk a little bit about white bass, and I'll do
that right now. They are, mercy sakes, They are moving
up into the creeks and it's gonna be game on
for about the next I don't know how long exactly
they'll be up in the creeks, but while they're there,

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it's pretty pretty easy to go out and get at
least enough bites to feed the family for a few days,
or if you freeze those filets quite some time. UH
got a state limited twenty five of those things, minimum
link ten inches. And if you're needing to replenish your
supplies of small crank baits, little jerk baits, swim jigs,

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little spinner type anything, anything you throw, lipless crank baits,
anything you throw at white bass, wait a few weeks
and then go in there with some sort of device
that can yank lures out of tree limbs and you'll
be able to reef. You'll fill a bushel basket of
them with them. From a lot of the places I've
fished in the pass. It's really kind of funny to

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go up white bass fishing up creeks after it gets
going in full swing, and just pay a little attention
to what's over your head and hung up in the
leaves and the limbs and all of that, and there'll
be plenty. There'll be plenty of lures. Don't you worry.
By the way, if you don't know the difference between
a white mass and a hybrid, which is really important

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when you start talking about limits, here's the deal.

Speaker 2 (01:00:58):
If you take a look at.

Speaker 3 (01:00:59):
The f anal fin, the one that starts behind behind
the kaboos goes to the tail one stripe on a
white mass, three or more on a hybrid. That's that's
the knockdown, drag out way that it shows online from
the Parks and Wildlife Department to tell the difference one

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for white mass, one stripe on that fin for a
white mass, three or more for the hybrid.

Speaker 2 (01:01:28):
We are Sports Talk seven ninety.

Speaker 9 (01:01:31):
Listen online at Sports seven ninety dot com.

Speaker 2 (01:01:34):
Now more Doug Fike.

Speaker 3 (01:01:38):
I don't know whether I'm embarrassed or not to admit
that I had that song on an album, the album
that I played over and over and over. Uh, when
I was a kid on a little turntable I had
in my bedroom and what just rules out? Huh came? Man,
just cranked it up all the way. It got a little.
The speakers weren't what I had when when I was

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actually a disco DJ. But yeah, man, that song was
grinding a whole lot of love. Holy Cow led Zeppelin. Man,
you're just you just running up and down, uh back
in the day street, aren't you today?

Speaker 2 (01:02:18):
That's kind of cool? Man? Oh, there he is. I
wonder if you heard us talking about him? Maybe maybe not.

Speaker 3 (01:02:24):
Let's get go ahead and click him through because I
want to. I want to check in with him. What's
up for it?

Speaker 2 (01:02:28):
Hold on? Click it? There you are? What's up there?

Speaker 8 (01:02:32):
There I are?

Speaker 4 (01:02:34):
Then I'll just sent you a text I said, don't
hate appreciate. I sent you a short video of me
cooking this vintas and pans sausage.

Speaker 2 (01:02:43):
Stop.

Speaker 3 (01:02:43):
Don't hate me though, are you kidding? That's Okay's bad
mouthing you earlier a little bit so I might have
heard that.

Speaker 2 (01:02:52):
I've always tuned into No man. Yeah that looks good.

Speaker 8 (01:02:59):
It looks like this. Yeah.

Speaker 3 (01:03:01):
Well yeah, and you also I'm looking at a red
snapper and what is that shrimp on the other side
of the plate.

Speaker 4 (01:03:07):
Yeah, uh butterfly trip?

Speaker 2 (01:03:10):
Oh my god, stop man, this is so cruel.

Speaker 3 (01:03:14):
All I've had to eat all day today is these
little little baby cinnamon rolls I get at the grocery
store and a banana. That's all I got. That's all
I'm going on right now. And you're pan sears venison sausage.
Good lord, So let's let's let's jump on Live's coat
for a little bit. You've got one in your boat.

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You use it sometimes, you don't use it sometimes. How
do you make the decision on when to do it?

Speaker 4 (01:03:42):
Like, for instance, you know the trip Friday. Yeah, back
my boat in the water. I took the cover off
my big innit and all I did was turn it
on and see what the water temperature was. And that
water temperature has a six in the front of it.

Speaker 2 (01:03:54):
I know, I know.

Speaker 8 (01:03:56):
At that point there's a wave of fish. This is bass. Yeah.

Speaker 4 (01:04:00):
So I felt like I fished long enough. I told him,
I said, I put the cover back on the unit.
We fished for eleven and a half hours, never turned
it back on. Sixty two baths later, fishing good, typical
spring pre style pattern.

Speaker 2 (01:04:12):
Yeah.

Speaker 4 (01:04:13):
Okay, Now, now if I wanted to go say I
wanted you know, we're catching so many fish, and we
talked about it, Say I wanted to go ahead, honey,
let's go catch that one big fish.

Speaker 2 (01:04:23):
Yeah.

Speaker 8 (01:04:24):
I might have turned it on a cruise out there
and looked around.

Speaker 4 (01:04:26):
But even at that, we went outside typical place May
Lake points Idrilla and out there carolineriyeh there Carolinery, ten
or fifteen minutes. Yeah, I could have turned on the
scope and looked. But where's the fun in that?

Speaker 8 (01:04:40):
Yeah?

Speaker 2 (01:04:40):
I agree, Yeah, that that takes the fun out of it.

Speaker 3 (01:04:43):
And also just like Van Dam and that other I
can't remember who he was talking to in that video
that's been seen in Arizona, yeah, Zona about a million
times or more. You're you also kind of like whole home,
what what are we doing? Are we fishing or are
we just watching TV? And it isn't educational tool. Yeah,
stuff about fish you never knew.

Speaker 2 (01:05:03):
Totally rewriting, totally rewriting the books.

Speaker 3 (01:05:06):
I mean, all this stuff about bass, all the big
bass being up on the shorelines.

Speaker 2 (01:05:10):
M no, no, not even not even during the spawn
apparently exactly.

Speaker 4 (01:05:15):
It's like me and you up there, you know, up
there at Livstin, you know, yeah, we were we were
messing around that bridge, and I just turned the live
scope on and looked, Yeah, we could have fan cast
it around and sure we'd have found the white mass,
but well we point it right at him, and you
throw right at them, and.

Speaker 2 (01:05:28):
It's like, yeah, it kind of eliminates the middle man.

Speaker 1 (01:05:33):
You know.

Speaker 4 (01:05:34):
Bill Dance had the best quote. He goes, crappy ain't
hard to catch. The hardest thing about Crappie is finding them.
Once you find them. That that take them mental heavy.

Speaker 2 (01:05:43):
Yeah they're not. They're not very particular about what they'll
snatch onto and eat. A good point.

Speaker 4 (01:05:48):
But one thing I did learn about crappie on lives coping.
You know as a kid, you know, as a fisher.

Speaker 8 (01:05:54):
When you go out there and you giggle your little.

Speaker 4 (01:05:55):
Jig around the stumps and all this kind of sh
you will.

Speaker 8 (01:05:59):
Catch more or Crappie.

Speaker 4 (01:06:01):
Putting that jig down there a foot or two above
their head and doing nothing make them work, absolutely nothing.

Speaker 8 (01:06:06):
If you pop it, poof, they're gone. It's crazy, but
just dead sticking it.

Speaker 4 (01:06:11):
Wow, they will you'll catch more crappie doing absolutely nothing
than trying to trying to trying to tempt them.

Speaker 8 (01:06:17):
But it's really crazy.

Speaker 2 (01:06:19):
Well that just rewrote my book exactly.

Speaker 5 (01:06:23):
Yeah.

Speaker 10 (01:06:23):
I was trying to entice them, you know, Yeah, I
was doing the same thing, and I was like, you know,
it's it's really cool that, you know. I mean, it's like, say,
it's an educational tool too. I bought money strictly for
crappie and white bass. But on the white bass, you
know right now.

Speaker 4 (01:06:40):
Like you said, you don't need a lot, you know,
I'll take a spinner rod out there. Academy's got these
real cheap, tiny crank baits. Sure, but the diving lip, yeah,
they're they're deadly. Any kind of eighth ounce road runner
along as it's got a fluorescent redhead and the white
body will work. But Jimmy Houston said on the road

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where you can't fish it wrong as long as you
fish it slow.

Speaker 2 (01:07:05):
Yeah, boy, isn't that the truth?

Speaker 4 (01:07:07):
And a little you know, the old school cast master
like them spoons you and I talked about for anything
like that.

Speaker 3 (01:07:13):
I can't tell you how many little little speckled trout
I caught out of Lake Pontreer train. When I was
a kid, there were a couple of buddies of mine
and I my dad got transferred over there for about
four years. When I was old enough to ride a
bicycle down to the lake. It was about a mile
probably in hindsight, it seemed longer as a kid, but
it was about a mile.

Speaker 2 (01:07:32):
And we'd go down.

Speaker 3 (01:07:32):
There after school and just stand there on the shoreline
and throw these cast masters with a little yellow bucktail
behind them into the same water every day, and about
every second or third day we'd catch at least one
or two, and then on like one out of every
maybe thirty days, we'd all catch three or four fish.

Speaker 2 (01:07:52):
And that was just like heaven. Man, it was so cool.

Speaker 8 (01:07:56):
Oh yeah, and I guess one more trip on the
white Bath. I have a quick golf question too.

Speaker 4 (01:08:01):
But you'll see people up in these creeks trolling like
they're out in the main lake on the roadbed, which
which fascinates me. But troll catch a fish and keep going.
So if you, if your answers, are everybody out there
white bass fishing at the creek and see a troller
catch a fish and leave going where he caught that fish.

Speaker 2 (01:08:20):
Yeah, there'll be about another thousand of them there.

Speaker 4 (01:08:25):
They were laying that theybe Me and Lane caught four
hundred and seventy two white bats without moving the boat.
We had a troller come by, ketch a fish and
went on around a ben. As soon as he left,
we just kept catching the same I mean literally casting
to the same as spot for forty five minutes.

Speaker 8 (01:08:37):
Wow. Yeah, there's that shaking his head on that.

Speaker 3 (01:08:42):
I saw something real quick before your golf question, and
then I might have to take a break. I saw
some Cajun guy was on Facebook talking about uh power
poles and what a waste of time and money they are.
He said, we just we just do this over here.
And he's got two. I think there are like six
foot length. It's a real heavy trucker chain tied to

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nylon ropes and he just drops bud when he gets
where he wants to stop, he just drops both of
those behind a boat set.

Speaker 2 (01:09:11):
It holds it like a champ. He doesn't move it all.

Speaker 8 (01:09:15):
That sounds like some Cajun stuff.

Speaker 4 (01:09:17):
I thought that was kind of funny. Lord, So what's
your golf question? So I want to get out here
in the backyard today. So Okay, we didn't go this
morning sometimes in the rain. So I got my little clasketball,
I got my broken seven flip and stick. I got
stuck in the ground for a flag. Oh, perfectly. What
club should I practice with?

Speaker 8 (01:09:35):
And I got it?

Speaker 4 (01:09:36):
Looks like about I probably got about thirty thirty thirty
five forty yards? Okay to play with? What club should
I be out there doing this with?

Speaker 2 (01:09:44):
You got wedges? What wedges do you have?

Speaker 8 (01:09:46):
Oh? I got I got wedges.

Speaker 2 (01:09:49):
I got them all here. Well do this? Okay, got
them all? Do this.

Speaker 3 (01:09:53):
Find a couple of something and put a stick at
ten twenty and thirty yards. Okay, three targets. I don't
get garbage, can lid whatever you want to put out there.
Three targets, and then use your sand wedge, use your
if you have a gap wedge, I carry a gap wedge.
And then you're pitching them with sandy. I got a
pitching sixty sand and a gap.

Speaker 2 (01:10:16):
Holy cow, you got four wedges.

Speaker 3 (01:10:18):
Just go through, yeah, go through one at a time
with each of those clubs and figure out a way
to get each of them to you.

Speaker 2 (01:10:29):
You're hitting into Saint Augustine or.

Speaker 4 (01:10:31):
Rye or what that's pretty much means a mix of
Ryan did, said Augustine.

Speaker 2 (01:10:37):
Yeah, okay, so it's it's not exactly a golf course.

Speaker 3 (01:10:40):
But just get a feel for getting the club to
go smoothly through there, and maybe I don't know, get
talk to Lane about how to set up and all that.
I wish I was up there. I know enough just
to get you set up. I don't I'm not a
swing coach. But just try to find a way to
hit each of those clubs so that the ball lands
consider instantly at ten, then at twenty, then at thirty,

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then go to the next club ten, twenty thirty. And
if when you start getting able to do that and
take it to the golf course. If you need something
to roll out, you'll be able to hit that shot
with your pitching wedge. If you need something to stop
really quick, you'll be able. You'll learn to hit it
with a sixty I will tell you a sixty degree wedge.
You might not want to use that a lot when

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you start playing golf. That's one of the hardest clubs
to hit for an avetur there.

Speaker 2 (01:11:29):
Is man okay, yeah, fifty six, Yeah, I carry a
fifty eight. That's my sand wedge.

Speaker 3 (01:11:36):
Fifty eight sand wedge, and I got a gap wedge,
and then I got a pitching wedge, and that's the
only three I carry.

Speaker 2 (01:11:43):
But I carry a three iron too. You know. So
a lot of people don't do that anymore.

Speaker 8 (01:11:47):
Well, cool doo. That's a good tips. I'll do that today.

Speaker 4 (01:11:49):
I'm about you to go in there and deliver edge
and her coffee at her venison.

Speaker 8 (01:11:54):
The sausage your smart manage. I can share it with you.

Speaker 4 (01:11:57):
Yeah, I bet don't feel bad.

Speaker 2 (01:11:59):
Is probably cook the crappie fish tacos.

Speaker 8 (01:12:01):
Probably five people as well as outnumber something.

Speaker 2 (01:12:04):
Oh my word, yeah, that was was honored to believe me.
I was honored when I was up there. All right,
I gotta take this break. Fox bro.

Speaker 3 (01:12:10):
You guys have fun, but luck with your golf game man.
Thank you, sir, appreciate it, sir audios. All right, we
got to take this last little break in the program
real quick. I'm running late, but it's fun to talk
to good guys. Your rockets and astros live here. We
are Sports Talk seven ninety. The conversation continues this as
The Doug Pike Show nine fifty four Holy Cow already

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nine to fifty four. On Sports Talk seven ninety The
Doug Pike Show. Thank you all so very much for listening.
I've got a couple of minutes left. I'll I don't know,
I don't know whether I want to talk about golf.
I'm not an instructor, and that's what scares me is sometimes,
and I'm very quick to point that out to anybody,
and I get it sometimes on the ranch. Hey man,
what do you did you see that swing I just made?

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Do you see anything wrong with it? And the first
thing I'll say is, I'm a golf instructor. Man, I
have no idea what's wrong with your swing? But if
you really want me to tell you what I saw,
what I think I saw, which is also, by the way,
almost always different from what Tommy or one.

Speaker 2 (01:13:15):
Of those people out there, nikky. Somebody comes over there
and sees.

Speaker 3 (01:13:21):
All of them all of them are real, real, legitimate
instructors or golly.

Speaker 2 (01:13:30):
Anyway, there's another name.

Speaker 3 (01:13:31):
I'm Trent. That's who I'm thinking of. Trent runs that
runs that shop over there, man, and he's really good.
And anybody who calls himself a golf instructor is going
to be way better at helping you than I am,
but I have had enough people talk about my swing,

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and I have learned what my swing is well enough
to learn that. If you're going to learn from somebody
who's my handicap, I could never make you better than that,
because I really I can't make myself better than that.

Speaker 2 (01:14:06):
And if I can't fix me, sure as heck can't
fit you.

Speaker 3 (01:14:10):
But if you are dead serious about getting good at golf,
and you invest a little bit of money in it
before you invest a lot of money in clubs, you're
not gonna buy a swing. You're not gonna buy clubs
that magically make you a better golfer. There are and
the clubs that magically can make a poor golfer not

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as poor, not in the wallet. Any golf clubs can
make you poor if you buy the right ones for
your wallet. But a swing, you can't buy a swing.
You have to you have to get some lessons first,
and then, like I've said before, when you can tell
me exactly what a new club will do for you
that your old club's not doing, then maybe we'll talk
about spending more money on them. It's a very complex game,

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and that's one of the things I like about fishing.

Speaker 2 (01:14:58):
So much.

Speaker 3 (01:15:00):
It's still really fun to go fishing, even maybe if
you don't catch any fish. But if you go play
eighteen holes of golf and you don't par any of
the holes, or you don't even make bogey on any
of the holes, that can become even way more frustrating
than not catching fish. I wish Faux Pro was back
on he hadn't. I don't know that he's played any
golf yet. I'm gonna have to get him down here

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and tee it up with him and just see how
rusty and rough and raw he is as a golfer.
If he can golf at all like he fishes, or
if he takes to it as with the same dedication,
he'll be fine. He'll be playing pretty good golf in
a little while. And you don't have to be very
good to enjoy golf. You don't have to be very

(01:15:44):
good to be better actually than most amateur golfers. You've
ever broken ninety, you're better than most amateur golfers who
actually keep score when they play, if you've ever broken.

Speaker 2 (01:15:55):
Ninety, so keep that in mind.

Speaker 3 (01:15:57):
If you can drive the ball more than two hundred yards,
you're better than most golfers. And if you can't, you're
still out there playing. And that's good exercise. It's good
for your health. All of this outdoor recreation I talk
about all the time is good for all of us.
And I hope you get a chance to do something
today and maybe tomorrow, because Tuesday and Wednesday are looking
kind of sloppy. We got some more rain coming, a

(01:16:19):
little bit of cool. Then right back to the fun, warmer,
more gentle winter that we've enjoyed for the past week.
Get outside, have some fun with your families. I'll be
back Tuesday for fifty plus on kPr C. I'll be
back here Saturday morning. God willing to talk about hunting
and fishing and all these fun things again.

Speaker 2 (01:16:38):
Then Idios,