Do you know which Lake in Texas has the most record breaking Bass fish?

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Speaker 1 (00:01):
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Speaker 2 (00:10):
Now here's dog Pike, alright, here we go, let the
music play out, and here we go. Saturday morning.

Speaker 3 (00:21):
Still chilly outside, a little bit misty, a little bit
moist and damp, and all those ugly things we don't want.
We can't wait for spring. We've had enough of winter.
A couple of overnight freezes this week. I'm done with it.
Hopefully you never know. Really, my wife's birthday is still
a couple of months away, and until it passes, and

(00:45):
this is something she's observed since she was a child,
until it truly gets into the rear view mirror, there's
still a shot that we might get some significantly cool,
if not cold weather. And by cool or cold, you
know what I'm talking about, if you've listened to this
show a while. I reserve use of the word cold
for temperatures of thirty two degrees and lower. It's cool,

(01:09):
it's frigid, it's chilly. It can be any of those
things up until that point, all the way down to
thirty three, but until it hits thirty two, I try
not to say it's cold outside.

Speaker 2 (01:22):
It was.

Speaker 3 (01:23):
It was cold yesterday morning. It was cold the morning before.
I got kind of blindsided on what was it Thursday
or Wednesday morning, whichever was the first of the two.
The temperature when I went out to my car was
actually several degrees cooler, colder. Actually it was below freezing.

Speaker 2 (01:42):
Then.

Speaker 3 (01:42):
I thought it was supposed to be overnight, and I'd
made good use of my time the night before making
sure that everything outside was batten down. The plants that
my wife has out there that need to be covered
were covered again, kind of half heartedly covered during that
last freeze, by the way, the really big one. And

(02:04):
so we've got some foxtail ferns that are gonna have
to regrow. I didn't lose any of them entirely, but
nor did I save any of them completely either, so
they got some regrown.

Speaker 4 (02:19):
It.

Speaker 3 (02:19):
It's kind of like watching a bad haircut grow out.
It'll be okay. Seven one three, two two five seven
ninety Email me Doug Pike at iHeartMedia dot com.

Speaker 2 (02:28):
Got a pretty full dock at this morning.

Speaker 3 (02:30):
Really, I've got several different little topics I'd like to address,
not the least of which you speckle trout that I
tell you what that three fish limit I have, I'm
having a harder and harder time finding anybody who's totally
against it. The more fish we catch, the bigger fish

(02:50):
we catch. And now I think that we've gone over
the edge really on people understanding the value of catch
and release. There are fewer and fewer people, at least
in my circles, who just insist on keeping a limited fish.

Speaker 2 (03:10):
If they can catch.

Speaker 3 (03:11):
It, it's okay now to go ahead and throw especially
bigger trout. I'm not sure that I've talked to anyone
who's catching well, well, they can't keep them anymore. That's
I've made a good point to myself. Wait a minute,
you can't do that anymore. So we've got this nice
little slot in which to keep fish, But the bigger

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ones are being thrown back, and I'm convinced that there
are already a lot of those bigger fish being caught
more than once. It happens, and I'm glad it does.
And I think that so long as we can avoid
any more major weather issues. I don't say the F word,

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because if you do, it's sure to happen. But the
good news is that if we can avoid those severe
weather issues that just kill, just wipe out fish, Louisiana's
dealing with some of that right now. We had them,
We've had them all all throughout history. The farther back
you look, the more you realize that hard freezes, hot summers,

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none of that stuff is really different. The whole planet
goes in weather cycles. You'll have hot periods, you'll have
cold periods, you'll have cold micro periods within the hot period,
and you'll have hot micro periods within the cold periods.
Weather changes all the time. We are We're just I

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posted a picture this week on Facebook. Actually I just
reposted it. I shared it, and it's a little thumbnail
snapshot that was taken by somebody's telescope out in space.
I don't know whether it was web or hubble or
anything else, but it's a picture of galaxies, of all

(05:06):
the galaxies that would fit into that frame, and it
reminds me very much of the one frame I got
on the Katie Prairie years ago that shows just an
uncountable number of birds in the sky when this little
airplane came by and got this giant concentration of them
out of a dried up rice field, or it might have.

Speaker 2 (05:27):
Been a beanfield. I can't remember for sure.

Speaker 3 (05:30):
But this is a photograph just you could have put
that camera anywhere and pointed it in any direction out
into just dark deep space, and it would have looked
the same. There are galaxies on top of galaxies on
top of galaxies out there, and it just makes you
realize how what a little bitty fish we are in

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this sea of planets out there, and stars, billions and
billions of stars in every one of these galaxies. And
it's looking more and more like there are billions of
galaxies out there.

Speaker 2 (06:05):
So how did I get there? Melvin? What when did
the train go off the track?

Speaker 3 (06:13):
Oh my god, I'm talking about catching release on speckled trout.

Speaker 2 (06:17):
And now I'm universe planets.

Speaker 3 (06:20):
And it is kind of interesting though, that every one
of these galaxies has probably a billion planets. Every one
of those billion planets has its own or a billion
stars has its own planets around it.

Speaker 2 (06:33):
And I don't know. I have room.

Speaker 3 (06:36):
I'm a faithful man, but I have room also in
thinking that there must be more life out there than
just what's here. It seems pretty arrogant of us to
think that that we're the only form of life out
of all of that stuff that's been bouncing around out
there and ricocheting off itself.

Speaker 2 (06:57):
And Okay, I just get fascinated by outer space.

Speaker 3 (07:01):
I think you having an out of body experience. I am,
you know, I guess kind of peeled back a layer
of myself. I just I like that kind of stuff though.
I think it's cool. I'd like to.

Speaker 2 (07:11):
Read about it.

Speaker 3 (07:12):
I like to see the photographs of all the stuff
that Hubble and Web have taken. They're fascinating to me.
And to think that that light was generated two three
four billion years ago and it's just now getting here.
I guess it just doesn't stop. It dissipates clearly. You
can see that when you shine a flashlight. If you're

(07:32):
two feet in front of the flashlight, it's blinding. If
you're two hundred yards from the flashlight, it' said. Oh,
I think I see it. One of those deals. All right,
So here's what's gonna go on in the show. Gosh,
we're gonna talk about We're gonna talk about India. We're
gonna talk about big bass. We're gonna talk about outdoors
programs for kids. We're gonna talk a little bit about

(07:55):
the NRA. Maybe I've got some really cool stuff out
of the game warden field. They've resurrected that at Parks
of Wildlife, and I'm so glad they did, because there's
all kinds of interesting stuff that these game wardens deal
with these things every day, but when somebody takes the
time to boil them down to the cool ones, the
interesting ones, and then write two or three paragraphs about them,

(08:18):
it's it's definitely worth a look into the lives of
those people. And I'm gonna interview, Oh, I've got two
of them today.

Speaker 2 (08:27):
Where did my paperwork go? Where did I put those things?

Speaker 4 (08:29):
There?

Speaker 5 (08:30):
They are?

Speaker 3 (08:30):
I know, Tommy O'Brien's at nine, and then it's going
to be Sandra Henejosa Garza at eight point thirty to
talk about Port Mansfield and what's going on down there.

Speaker 2 (08:38):
I want to find it.

Speaker 3 (08:39):
She and her husband the new owners of Getaway Lodge
down there, And what I want to do is kind
of find out, kind of find out how things are
relative to I think they grew up down there, and
relative to when they grew up. Because every piece of
the Texas Coast is getting more busy it's getting more populated,
the water getting more crowded.

Speaker 2 (09:01):
And I'm just kind of curious.

Speaker 3 (09:03):
I'm kind of curious to learn from her, because she's
down there every day, just what it's like and whether
Port Mansfield is going to remain one of the last
semi uninhabited places on the Texas coast. It's busy, it's growing,

(09:24):
but just like most of those little towns, the growth
is coming with it's bittersweet for the people who live there.
They love having their property values go up. They love
having a little better access to groceries and gasoline and
the things that they need.

Speaker 2 (09:43):
To stay down there a little longer than they usually
get to go.

Speaker 3 (09:46):
Maybe, But then again, the first time you're stuck at
the only traffic light in one of these little bitty
towns for more than one cycle, you realize there's.

Speaker 2 (09:56):
Just too many people in your town.

Speaker 3 (10:00):
Doing some work with a couple of small towns along
the coast, and I talk to them about it, and
they talk about traffic jams, like being hearing three cars
go down the street while they're trying to make a
phone call. And for those of us who live here
in Houston, three cars, we would think there had been

(10:20):
some apocalyptic just vanishing of the entire population to only
hear three cars. That would be nice seven. I already
did that. Let me go check emails real quick. I
want to make sure that.

Speaker 2 (10:33):
Everybody's everybody's on board.

Speaker 3 (10:36):
Oh, I got the wrong mouse in my hands. Melvin
and I are celebrating, by the way, day one of
fully operational. We think we haven't had a phone call
yet to find out, though, Melvin, whether I can pick
it up from in here. But so far everything is
running smoothly, so surely I won't have jinxed anything in here,

(10:56):
Melvin away, huh, knock on something? Oh man, right real, Oh,
I'm gonna need a bigger hammer. Probably I got a hut.
It's just that I think I might have just dropped
us over the edge of the cliff.

Speaker 2 (11:14):
I don't know.

Speaker 3 (11:16):
I don't have any I don't have any indication in
here than anything's going wrong, and my emails are perfectly
functioning right now. I'm missing one, but it'll it'll show
up soon enough. Oh yeah, Rudy, Yo, Rudy's jumped the gun.
So I'm gonna jump into this because it's pretty cool.
Rudy just sent me the story that I have on

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these papers here from the Parks and Wildlife about a
guy who just loves to fish Lake Alan Henry. And
I'm sure most of you who are neck deep in
fishing have heard this story by now. It came out
on the nineteenth, was three days ago. This guy is
and he didn't even have four wards facing so gnar.

Speaker 2 (12:01):
He had nothing.

Speaker 3 (12:02):
Two years ago, almost two years ago, he caught sheer
lucker six forty one from Lake Allen Henry. This guy's
name is Ross Gomez. Fourteen point seven eight pounds. It was,
and he got some help getting it in. He got
into Parks and Wildlife a farment. They took it to
the to the shrelucker program. It spawned, It gave up

(12:26):
that there's a number in here.

Speaker 2 (12:27):
Where was it?

Speaker 3 (12:28):
The fish spawned thirty three thousand, six hundred and forty
nine fingerlings that first time it went to the Texas
Freshwater Fishery Center. She was she was taken back after
the spawn. She was taken back to Lake Allen Henry
and released about three point three miles from the little

(12:51):
boat dock from which Ross Gomez caught her a couple
of days ago. On I'm trying to find the date
for this one doesn't matter. A few days ago, whenever
it was, he caught the exact same fish from underneath

(13:13):
the exact same dock three point three miles. That fish
had found her way back somehow, three point three miles. Now,
fish can see better than we can underwater. I guess
if you've got goggles on and all that stuff, you

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can see pretty well. But for that fish to find
its way back there, and for him to go out
there and actually catch that exact same fish, she waited
a little bit more of that second time grew from
thirteen twenty two to fourteen seventy eight over those two years.

Speaker 2 (13:51):
Just amazing that fish made it back that far. Holy coward,
you have to take a break.

Speaker 6 (13:55):
Come on, Ques, This is Sports Talk seven ninety a
Houston sports fan on air and on Facebook.

Speaker 7 (14:03):
A contact back to The Doug Pike.

Speaker 3 (14:06):
Show on Sports Talk seven ninety The Doug Pike Show.
Thank you for listening, certainly to appreciate it. Man, I
got a couple of guys I need.

Speaker 2 (14:14):
To get to here.

Speaker 3 (14:15):
Let's start with Rick and I'll catch George Rick. What's
up man?

Speaker 5 (14:20):
Good morning, Doug, Good morning, believe it or not, This
morning between about five thirty to six thirty, it was
snowing in Rim, Texas.

Speaker 2 (14:35):
I heard about that. Yeah, I haven't.

Speaker 3 (14:38):
I haven't even looked at the weather yet, but I'm
gonna do that right now.

Speaker 2 (14:41):
Yeah, there was there was brief mention of that earlier
when I was on the way in.

Speaker 3 (14:47):
My buddy down to die was talking and talking about
somebody had emailed him, and I'm glad you let me
know that. I'd kind of kind of slipped out of
my mind. Holy cap, I'm.

Speaker 5 (14:57):
In Champele Hill. Yeah, e some horses and uh, my
forecast say is well, ten minutes ago it said expect
snow and within the next hour now it was saying
expect snow flurries. Okay, it's kind of snowy looking clouds.
But I was gonna just want to tell you that

(15:21):
I thought I was not expecting that to uh But anyways,
I helped. I've seen this before. I've seen some pretty
weird I've seen it more than once. But friend of
mine he trapped a hog, okay, and he wanted he
wanted to process that hole. So I he comes to

(15:44):
him cause I couldn't come help him. So I said, yeah,
so we go over there and and we we get
this hog and uh, I took my rat and I'm
hung him up and we started processing this hog. And
like I say, I've seen it before. I found another
broadhead in that in.

Speaker 2 (16:03):
That Holy cow man.

Speaker 5 (16:06):
Now this dog wasn't shot, he was trapped. Wow, but
there was another broad at the top of his backstrips.
Will be.

Speaker 2 (16:18):
Those are tough animals, they are.

Speaker 5 (16:22):
You know. I've seen some really really weird stuff on
the hall and.

Speaker 2 (16:25):
In a field full of jeeps, the hogs are the tanks.
You know that makes sense.

Speaker 5 (16:32):
Yeah, there's there's a Yeah.

Speaker 3 (16:35):
I'm looking at the I'm looking at the snow line here.
Huntsville snow, Cleveland, No, Woodland snow, an Avisoda yes, Brenham, yes, Lagrange, Yes,
maybe Columbus that's right on the edge. And then a
little farther south it's it's even showing showing snow like

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over toward the northeast side of San Antonio and all
the way down through Floresville and all the way down
to carn City.

Speaker 2 (17:04):
Holy cow man.

Speaker 5 (17:06):
I talked to a friend of mine just south of Castroville,
Floresville morning, in a text. I asked him if snowing
he said, yeah, so it was just a stretch.

Speaker 2 (17:20):
Yeah, there was a little string.

Speaker 5 (17:22):
Of it, you know, for whatever reason. God weird. Uh,
anything else is going on I need.

Speaker 3 (17:28):
To know about, not yet, not yet, but I'm watching.
I got all kinds of things to talk about. I
got all.

Speaker 8 (17:35):
Kind of looking forward to it.

Speaker 5 (17:36):
I'm sipping them and I'll try to take it easy today.

Speaker 2 (17:43):
I'll try to.

Speaker 3 (17:45):
Much it is it really and you know, it's not
super cold where it's it's snowy and all that kind
of semi fun to go ahead and bottle up and
get out in it. It's just cold and damp, and
that just gets in your bones. Man, I have flashbacks
waterfowl season.

Speaker 5 (18:02):
That's the problem is urt you.

Speaker 8 (18:03):
Humidity.

Speaker 5 (18:04):
I was out yesterday but I was dressed for it,
but I still got cold. But I could bear it
and I made it through it. But yeah, I mean
this morning it was colder than I was expecting. And uh, yeah,
I'm glad when it's all over hard and believing them
about the week it's gonna be March, I'll still shake
March with winters over for no sport.

Speaker 3 (18:27):
A week from Tuesday, if the forecast is right, which
is just throw it up in the air and watch
the wind blow it away. It doesn't matter a week
out but a week from Tuesday.

Speaker 9 (18:37):
Uh.

Speaker 2 (18:38):
The last time I looked, they showed a high of eighty.
So here we go.

Speaker 5 (18:43):
I'm gonna say real quick, brought up. Sure if you
like fishing, are you fish or you don't fish, but
you like the sport whatever. The Sheriff Lonkerdal is in Athens, Texas.
Yes it is, and fisher you've never been there. It's
worth the drive, that's worth the trip. You need to

(19:05):
put it on your list to go up there. It's
spend the night having a good time. But it's I
thought it would be kind of boring. You can take
a tour, but it's pretty incredible how they got that
set up for people to come and see what they're doing.

Speaker 2 (19:17):
Yeah, it is. It's a beautiful place. I was up
there when they first opened it up.

Speaker 3 (19:21):
We had a grand opening celebration up there and went
up for that and then I've been back a couple
of times. But yeah, that's that's something kind of like
CEA Center, Texas. If you've never seen anything like that,
don't have any idea. You'll be happy you made the trip.
That's a good trip. Will good call Rick?

Speaker 5 (19:37):
Thanks man, all right, talk to you.

Speaker 3 (19:40):
Yes, sir, audience, all right, let me drop that boon
shaka laca. Let's go try and get this one. Hey, George,
Uh oh man, we did it, didn't we? Melboyne hit
him up for me, George, Yeah, Now I got you, buddy.

Speaker 2 (19:55):
What's up?

Speaker 4 (19:56):
Top of the day, top of the morning, Hey, top
of the morning. Those your metaphysical musings this morning.

Speaker 2 (20:04):
Are are well placed.

Speaker 4 (20:06):
You look at the advent of all the AI and
if you go back through your emails, I sent you
some information a little bit along these lines. And I'm
also about the smart meters I told you about. Uh
you're three weeks ago, and so go back and look
through your emails.

Speaker 2 (20:21):
But I just sent you another one this morning.

Speaker 4 (20:24):
Uh uh are you familiar with quantum computing? Quantum computers
a little bit. I couldn't build one, me right, I
couldn't build a regular one. But uh, the scientists have
recently teleported images in a star trek like discovery, and
they're what it is, these quantum computers, they're they're you know,

(20:46):
they're building a bunch of space for that right now
in Texas, they're in.

Speaker 2 (20:50):
Uh oh, yeah.

Speaker 4 (20:51):
You know, I've got reservations about a lot of it,
especially about AI. You know, I have a real strong
reservation about AI. But anyway, but this this is amazing technology,
and you know, we have to stay vigilant.

Speaker 2 (21:06):
But it's a very interesting article. And they were able
to traditionally to.

Speaker 4 (21:11):
Communicating parties physically send information from one to the other.

Speaker 2 (21:15):
Even in the quantum realm.

Speaker 4 (21:17):
Now it's possible to teleport information so that it never
physically travels across the connection.

Speaker 3 (21:22):
A Star Trek technology made real.

Speaker 2 (21:24):
That's those are quotations pretty crazy, isn't it? Isn't it?

Speaker 4 (21:27):
It's you know, the data and you know, like I
told you quite some time ago, and a couple of
years ago, I mentioned that book, uh, the Invisible Rainbow.
You see, everything is about energy, frequency and vibration. Nothing
sets at rest, nothing true. And it's an electrical universe.
You know, I'm an electrician retired and uh, you know

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these things you have to there's you know that other
email said you there's some precautions you need to take.
People to familiarize themselves with these smart meters, and if
you can opt out and get it off of your house.
If it is mounted on your home, I would try
to opt out, even if I had to pay twenty
five or thirty dollars a month to get it replaced.
Mine is on a pole about ten feet away, and

(22:12):
I'm grounding the meter can and I'm also you know,
there's other things you can do on the wall. Lead
pain is still available out there. And don't believe all
it stuff about lead pain. Government buildings are still using
lead paint.

Speaker 2 (22:24):
That thought.

Speaker 4 (22:25):
Yes, sir, it's interesting, you know. Yeah, it's because it
blocks EMFs. We're living in a microwave.

Speaker 2 (22:33):
That's a good point. Yeah, we're living. You're living in.

Speaker 4 (22:36):
A microwave, sir. And that's why you know, I have
what they call arthridus. It's not our thright, it's it's
chronic inflammation. Because your body's electrical. That's why they use acupuncture.

Speaker 2 (22:45):
Your motor everything.

Speaker 4 (22:46):
We're electrical beings, that's what Nikola Tesla said. I am
electricity and we are also magnetic because they go hand
in hand. And you know, I've got a trifield meters,
the two hundred dollars meter, and I can I can
read all these towers around me, and you can get
one of those and make sure that you know you're
that you're you're safe, you know, sure if you got
children and things like that, and turn the Wi Fi

(23:07):
off at night and I'll get off of it.

Speaker 2 (23:09):
Hey.

Speaker 4 (23:10):
The trout limits, man, the trout limits are wonderful. Hey.

Speaker 2 (23:13):
And you know, you start off you just want to
catch a bunch of fish.

Speaker 4 (23:17):
And then once you as you graduate and you graduate
off the open reels to the U bay casters and
they start wanting to target the big fish.

Speaker 2 (23:25):
You know, it's a it's a it's a process.

Speaker 9 (23:27):
It is.

Speaker 2 (23:28):
Thank you, George. I'll see buddy audios.

Speaker 3 (23:31):
All right, we got to take a little break here
on the way out.

Speaker 6 (23:37):
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Speaker 7 (23:42):
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Speaker 2 (23:50):
Thanks for listening.

Speaker 3 (23:50):
Certainly do appreciate it. So much stuff going on today,
one thing after another. And I'm getting emails in here
that I'm going to have to address after the show too.
Seven one three two point two five seven ninety Email
on me Dugpike at iHeartMedia dot com.

Speaker 2 (24:07):
Got Lee. We were already halfway through the first hour.
That's not bad.

Speaker 3 (24:10):
Let me go back for bass to bass for a minute, because, uh,
this guy Ross Gomez, who now has two share lunkers
to his credit, wasn't using fancy tackle at all to catch.

Speaker 2 (24:27):
Either one of them.

Speaker 3 (24:28):
In fact, this last time he caught the fish, he
was using an eight pound test on a little five
foot rod. He was he was trying to crappy. He
was crappie fishing. He was just walking boat docks crappie fishing.
And he thought to him, so he says here in
the story, he's gonna, you know, I'll just let this
little jig go way down deep and see what happens.

Speaker 2 (24:48):
And that's what happened.

Speaker 3 (24:49):
He caught fourteen point seven eight pound largemouth bass, the
same fish that was released three point three miles away
way when it was returned to the lake after being
caught from beneath that exact same boat dock two years ago.

(25:10):
That just that's almost as fascinating as outer space is
to me, that that fish found its way back. It's
not like it had a road map, it's not like
it had GPS, it's not like it had any sort
of sophisticated means of navigation. Just something in its brain
took it from the release point all the way back

(25:33):
to where that was. And that's on par with salmon
swimming upstream back to the little creek in which they
were born. And it's really fascinating to see how advanced
some of these animals are that are out there. It
can find their way back like that.

Speaker 2 (25:53):
I see little.

Speaker 3 (25:53):
Glimpses of stuff like that when you see an animal
reunited with the person who raised it from the time
it was a pup or a kitten, or a or
a whatever, cub, whatever. And big animals too, in a
lot of cases, bears and lions and all kinds of
animals that were raised into adulthood and then released into

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the wild, and then two, three, four, five years later,
the person who raised them goes out there and stands
in front of this collared, radio tracked beast and it
just comes up just like a puppy, glad to see
it's it's no owner walk through the door in the afternoon,
totally totally recognized that person.

Speaker 2 (26:38):
It's pretty impressive, it really is.

Speaker 3 (26:41):
We're we're I don't know that we're on that level
of interaction honestly that it would seem it would seem
a lot to ask of us. But enough of that,
let's get back to fish. Oh gone, I get off
on tangents, don't I. I'm sorry about that. I still

(27:01):
want to talk about speckled trout again too, because the
more I talk to people, the more interesting it becomes.

Speaker 2 (27:08):
How relatively quickly six months what is it, six months?

Speaker 3 (27:13):
Maybe seven months, eight months, I don't know, since the
new regulations went fully into effect where you could just
keep these little three fish in that tight slot and
it's working. There's nobody on this planet who could deny
that it's working. We're catching more fish more quickly than

(27:34):
we thought we might, now that the circumstances surrounding these
last couple of freezes, we've been relatively fortunate, granted, but
still to see the numbers of bigger fish, and there's
fish and guides talk about they were just fish today

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that we caught, and those are the fish that would
normally have occupied the first couple of inches of the slot.
Keepers barely a lot of dinks. There's all kinds of
slang words for little bitty fish, and just you catch
them and it's cute and all, but they don't really
matter to somebody who's been fishing a very long time.

Speaker 2 (28:16):
Most of us.

Speaker 3 (28:16):
Would prefer to go out and catch big fish, even
if we don't catch as many, and that's just where
we are in the evolution of ourselves as fishermen.

Speaker 2 (28:27):
But there are a lot of bigger fish being caught.

Speaker 3 (28:30):
There are more fours to sixes, more sixes to eight
and I suspect that in the next couple of months
we're going to see word of more fish crowding or
sneaking over the ten pound edge. We're getting better at fishing, clearly.

(28:51):
We have better equipment, clearly, and all of a sudden
we've also got an improved, enhanced fishery. Just because we're
leaving big ones alone. Why didn't we do this ten
years ago, twenty years ago. We've tried the parks and
wallet departments, tried coastal conservation associations, tried every organization that

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is all for the conservation of coastal fisheries has tried
to instill this, this understanding that if you just throw
those big ones back, and if you want, if you
want to mount great measure it, take pictures of it
and then get those measurements and the pictures to the taxidermis,
because that's all they need.

Speaker 2 (29:34):
They're going to use a.

Speaker 3 (29:36):
Foam form and then they're gonna paint it skin mounts.
I don't know why any body would want to get
a skin mount of a fish anymore when it's not
going to last. I've got a skin mount of a
big trout on the wall in my house from thirty
years ago, maybe forty years ago, probably closer to forty
years ago now actually, and maybe even more than that,

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and it's it's showing its age. If I had a
plastic fiberglass maunt of that same fish, it would still
look probably almost as good as And it's the paint
job that matters on those now much as anything else.
You can go to any taxidermists place in the country
and get any size trout you want and put it
on your wall and make up a story about it,

(30:21):
and there it'll be for it. Thirty five inch trout.
Yeah they got that.

Speaker 2 (30:24):
Hey, Dave, what's up man?

Speaker 8 (30:26):
I like that make up a store?

Speaker 10 (30:28):
Yeah, just oh my god, yeah no. And you're right, uh,
you know, I've a taxidermied a few things myself. You know,
you were like rabbit skins and stuff like that, and
you know, yeah, yeah, you know, just put you know,
do the thing on them. And I mean, you know,

(30:48):
and but deer skin. That's why I like deer skin gloves.
I mean, and you can get them if you know
where to go get them, and I yeah, but they
cost a lot of money and they're real solid.

Speaker 11 (31:00):
You know.

Speaker 10 (31:00):
What I was talking about was, oh, cowboys, the knife
guy over there in.

Speaker 2 (31:04):
The buildings, Yeah, cowboys Monki.

Speaker 5 (31:07):
Yeah.

Speaker 10 (31:08):
I was thinking on him because I was watching a documentary,
uh kind of on Historic Channel or order about uh
you know the samurai like the sword that the sword
well the sword that goes all the way round, and
they were and they were fighting with him and everything
in the steel that they made, that they poured to

(31:28):
make that was so hard and they were trying to
figure out where it was made from, you know, and
I think they finally figured out. I think it was
over an Africa or somewhere. But uh yeah, and and
you know, uh they said that you couldn't they were flexible,
but they wouldn't break.

Speaker 2 (31:46):
You know. That's incredible, man.

Speaker 8 (31:48):
It's crazy, you know.

Speaker 10 (31:50):
And I've got a pretty good nipileaction myself, you know,
and and uh and I you know a lot of
them have memories and and and things like that. But
another thing I can't believe Arbcue cook Off is coming
up again. I know, Lee time's why. I mean, hey,
you know what's cool though, wis uh when I'm here
in Houston where I am right now? Uh, I just

(32:13):
opened the door. I can probably still smell the smoke
from the well everybody has.

Speaker 3 (32:18):
Yeah, it's if wind's blowing your way, whatever which way
you are, from the old astronome. For the next week
or two, it's it's gonna smell like smoke, for.

Speaker 10 (32:28):
Sure, yes, sir, Hey, and you know, and I probably
I'm hoping that necessary. I'm hoping I'm gonna get to
go one day and go walk around. I heard the
weather is going to be better better.

Speaker 2 (32:41):
So next week we'll be for sure. Yeah, it's gonna
be nice. Yeah, that'll work a week man, all right, pardon,
good to hear from you.

Speaker 10 (32:49):
Hey, I appreciate you all. And hey, let's get on
with it. I gotta go to work.

Speaker 8 (32:52):
Oh man, it's drizzling.

Speaker 10 (32:54):
Hey wait no, no, I only got probably thirty minutes
to do. But I do have my jacket on my
range jacket. Yeah, it just started drizzle here at the
park road in the airline.

Speaker 2 (33:03):
All right, let me go to work. Got to work
and get out of that rain.

Speaker 5 (33:07):
Dave.

Speaker 2 (33:07):
Good to hear from you, man, Audios. All right, we
gotta take a little break.

Speaker 6 (33:13):
This is Sports Talk seven ninety Houston, Sports online at
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Back back to the Doug Pike Show.

Speaker 3 (33:23):
On Sports Talk seven ninety The Doug Pike Show. Thank
you for listening. Man, what kind of now this hour
sort of sped up on us all of a sudden.
Hum Elvin, Holy cow.

Speaker 2 (33:34):
I checked.

Speaker 3 (33:35):
I looked at the weather Channel map again to see
kind of the radar, get a broader look at what's
going on. Let me pull back a little bit. Yeah,
there's still a very clear snow line. In fact, I'm
going to refresh this page just to see if it's moved.
And he looks like the Woodlands is right on the
edge of getting some snow this morning. I don't know

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if you're going to get.

Speaker 2 (33:58):
It or not.

Speaker 3 (33:59):
Maybe if you've got Oh, now that's all kind of clear,
and it's retreating. The line is retreating back into the
hill country and away from here. Yeah, if you're not
in Montgomery. Well, Annesota's showing snow still Brenham Lagrange where
it is, and it's all just kind of scattered and patchy.

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Now below that line to the southwest of the or
southeast of that line from oh gosh, it goes from Yeah,
from Livingston is right on the edge, Woodville right on
the edge, and everything below that is very scattered, very
light rain. This forecast for sixty seventy eighty percent chance

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of rain today.

Speaker 2 (34:47):
It's real.

Speaker 3 (34:48):
There's rain in the region, but not a lot of it,
very light. So I don't know that i'd blow off any.

Speaker 2 (34:56):
Plans I had.

Speaker 3 (34:57):
Man, there's a very clear delineation between snow or no snow,
rain or no rain. It's it's interesting to see these
things as they develop through the eyes of the radar
that's tracking it.

Speaker 2 (35:10):
Also some snow.

Speaker 3 (35:11):
Way way over there in the central Mississippi. Holy cow,
snow at ice. How far up the country do I
want to look?

Speaker 2 (35:20):
Not any farther than that. I'm bored.

Speaker 9 (35:22):
Now.

Speaker 3 (35:23):
I know our weather looks like it's gonna be a
little bit better, perhaps than the forecast called for. So
that's always a good thing. A light rain I would
call it today. Now there's some places, yeah, like around
just north of Galveston, a little ways across the bay,
a little bit heavier. You might hear the rain drops
on the roof if you have a one story house.

(35:44):
But other than that, it's gonna be light and misty
and a dreary cold day. Get inside, watch something good on,
watch a movie, or maybe watch some sports.

Speaker 2 (35:55):
No more football to watch for a while. And that's
that doesn't bother me.

Speaker 3 (36:00):
On three two one two five seven ninety Email me
Dougpike at iHeartMedia dot com. I saw a story yesterday
and I just kind of ricocheted off it right toward
the end of fifty plus.

Speaker 2 (36:11):
If I recall over in India.

Speaker 3 (36:14):
This caught my attention because it's been done here before
and the result wasn't nearly as good as expected.

Speaker 2 (36:22):
Well it depends on who you ask.

Speaker 3 (36:25):
And now it's being done in India, and I wonder
if they realize what's coming down the line. So what
happened is there is a subspecies of wolf that is
native to India, exclusive to India, that had nearly gone extinct.
They had problems of just not that many of those
wolves anymore. And they're reintroducing them now to a big

(36:51):
national park. In the story, they brag about this park
having such tremendous biodiversity, it's got all all these wonderful
animals in it, and holy cow, now we're going to
reintroduce the Indian wolf so that it can regain its
foothold in this region. And I get to thinking to

(37:13):
myself about how that was done on this continent in
the Rocky Mountains, not that long ago, and how I
don't remember the exact numbers, but roughly a heard over.

Speaker 2 (37:29):
A few years.

Speaker 3 (37:31):
Over just a few years, a herd of eleven thousand
or so elk.

Speaker 2 (37:38):
Became a herd of eleven hundred elk. The wolves ate
them up. The wolves wiped them out.

Speaker 3 (37:47):
Those elk hadn't been subjected to predation by wolves in
a very long time, so they'd maybe lost some of
their natural instincts about defending themselves or getting away from wolves.
And the wolves did what wolves do. They they took

(38:10):
on the high apex predator role, took it away from
the big cats the mountain lions. Mountain lions killed young
elk as well, but not nearly so many as a
pack of wolves. One mountain line, cover a whole big
territory and maybe take a wolf what once a week,

(38:30):
once every couple of weeks, something like that, keep it happy.
A pack of wolves. They need a bunch more than that.
And that's what happened here. And I'd be willing to
bet you that five years from now I'll be able
to dig up a story that says wolf relocation program
backfires in India. Now there's nothing left. They just all

(38:52):
through the story. It talked about all this diversity of
wildlife species in there, and they rattled off a few names,
including by the way, I think jaguars are in there
as well, and they will be competing now with wolves
for their food. It's interesting. It's interesting sometimes we we
have the best of intentions with tinkering with nature, because

(39:15):
after all, we are we are the biggest players in
the game. And sometimes when you try to fix something
five ten years later, you realize it really wasn't broken.
Seven one three two one two five seven nine Email
me Doug pick At, iHeart Media dot Calm. We've gotten
to the top of the hour already. I don't believe it.
Holy cow, Melvin, this has been great. And did you

(39:37):
notice that the whatever it was, you probably fixed something
in there. When I got Dave's call, I was able
to bring him right.

Speaker 2 (39:44):
Up, right up. That's amazing. You pushed a button in there,
didn't you. I didn't. You didn't push anything. I didn't
push anything. Holy cow.

Speaker 3 (39:52):
Maybe we have just a little Guardian radio angel on
our shoulders. Could be yeah, because we're clean livers. You know,
nobody in it the apartment somewhere somewhere, you know.

Speaker 2 (40:02):
That's the that's the upside.

Speaker 3 (40:04):
In the downside, we used to have in house tech support,
and then.

Speaker 2 (40:09):
It got shipped out.

Speaker 3 (40:11):
But the in house sometimes wasn't here, and when it
wasn't here, you couldn't get anything done.

Speaker 2 (40:15):
And now it's not in house.

Speaker 3 (40:17):
I might if I pick up the phone and call
the bat, you know, hit the bath phone, to get
technical help, to get broadcast help, to keep us on
the air. I might be talking to somebody in New
York or Montana or wherever, but at least that person's
on point and on duty.

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Speaker 5 (40:51):
So far.

Speaker 3 (40:52):
We've we've learned that largemouth bass can find their way
back to swim back upstream to where the maybe not
where they were born, but I you know, after that
Gomez guys fourteen pounder two years ago, swam three point
three miles to get back to where he had caught

(41:15):
it two years ago, and then he catches it again
standing in the same spot on the same boat dock,
dropping a lure straight down, trying to catch a crappie.
And what's in there eating crappie? And that bass again,
no wonder it weighed fourteen pounds. It's in there munching
on crappie all day. That's kind of the equivalent of

(41:37):
the Texas equivalent of what California's big bass eat is
rainbow trout. Only those are stocked trout, and they've got
a lot of fat in them and a lot of protein.
And that's why the large mouth in largemouth of record
in California is greater than twenty pounds. We have yet
to grow that twenty pounder. And I've talked about it

(41:58):
just add nauseam on this show. How Barry Saint Clair
just sits back in his easy chair every day. I'm
still the guy who caught the biggest bass in Texas
eighteen point eighteen pounds. It's gosh, it's been close to
thirty years now, and we were on a run too
the top fifty bass in Texas once Lake Fork was

(42:24):
Once bass fishermen learned that Lake Fork had a bunch
of giants in it, off they went, and for a
time about thirty four to thirty five of the top
fifty bass in Texas had come from Lake Fork.

Speaker 2 (42:39):
That's no longer the case.

Speaker 3 (42:41):
Lake Fork's been eclipsed by several other lakes, and well
not eclipsed, but at least it's been nudged to the side,
and a lot of the records from Lake Fork a
lot of those top fifty spots got pushed down considerably.

Speaker 2 (42:57):
A lot of them fell off the list.

Speaker 3 (43:00):
Because bigger fish are being caught all over the state
now and with ff S forward facing sonar, there are
going to be others knocked off the list. I can
guarantee it. Somebody posted a picture on Facebook the other
day of I think it was four fish that somebody,

(43:20):
some group had caught in a tournament, either four or five.
I can't remember exactly how many, but just a ridiculous number.
It was forty pounds something like that for the fish
they had caught, all with forward facing sonar. And that's
going to keep happening so long as these tournaments continue

(43:42):
to allow the technology. It's going to be really hard
to unring this bell. And I wish we could in
some way, shape or form. I kind of like what
Major League Fishing has done. The fishermen who participate in
that competition and are allowed to use it, but only

(44:04):
for one period. They can pick the one they want
to use it for first, second, or third, doesn't matter,
but you only get it for that one period, and
then you go back to fishing. Then you go back
to fishing instead of just looking. They're kind of like hockey.

(44:24):
They do their competition in three you can fish. I
think it's for maybe might be two hours at a time,
might be ninety minutes. I can't remember exactly. So it's
a window that they can actually, yeah, you can like
if there's let's say it's three two hour periods and
you're gonna fish from from seven to nine, and then
from nine thirty to eleven thirty, and then from twelve

(44:45):
to two. Okay, you pick one of those chunks of
time where you can flip the switch and use that thing.
You can you can look at the screen and not
even make a cast if you don't see anything you
don't like, you like fish. But after that, and before
that and around that one stretch of time, then you're fishing.

(45:07):
You're chunking and winding. You're hoping you pick the right spot.
You're hoping you pick the right depth where a lot
of fish are. And that's the way it is, and
that's fishing. That's how fishing has always been. So it
would be really hard, like I said, to take it
totally away from people now because it's already so common

(45:27):
out there. But for competitions, you might as well just
hang it up if you don't have an extra six
eight ten thousand dollars to invest. If you're running around
in a twenty foot or not twenty sixteen foot john
boat with a little outboard on the back side console

(45:49):
and you feel pretty good, you're having fun, you really
enjoy fishing, chances are you can't add as much or
more than you paid for your boat, motor and trailer electronics,
so you'll never have that advantage.

Speaker 2 (46:04):
And that's I don't know that.

Speaker 3 (46:06):
That shouldn't preclude you for that shouldn't keep you from
being able to be competitive in fishing if you're a
good fisherman. These other guys, I mean, I'm not trying
to take anything away kind of a little bit. Yeah,
maybe I am. If you're using that, if you're relying
on seeing a fish on TV to be able to catch.

Speaker 2 (46:26):
It, then I don't know if that's real fishing. Hey, David,
what's up man?

Speaker 12 (46:33):
Yeah, Doug, before you start fishing again, let's not leave
hunting season behind. I mean, this is predator season. If
I'm not mistaken.

Speaker 2 (46:40):
That's a good point.

Speaker 12 (46:41):
And Doug, I'm looking seriously at pulling the trigger. I
guess pun intended on a night vision on a night
vision scope, you know, I used to. I'm I'm a little.

Speaker 10 (46:53):
Beyond the plus.

Speaker 12 (46:54):
I still have a lot that I don't know, you
know or no adal, But it seems the price of
these things are coming down now where they're very very affordable.
Yes they are, and what do you know about them?

Speaker 2 (47:10):
I know a little, not a lot.

Speaker 3 (47:12):
I couldn't tell you which one to go by, But
I am in favor of the technology, especially for predator honey.
That gives you an advantage over those animals that you
can't get any other way. They are nocturnal in a
lot of cases. Look at hogs for example. If you've
got a lot of hogs on a place and you

(47:32):
go shoot three of them during the daytime over the
course of a week, you won't see one during the
daytime for a long time to come. They know better.
They go nocturnal on you. But with night vision you
can hunt them.

Speaker 2 (47:45):
Still.

Speaker 12 (47:47):
Yeah, that's really what I'm targeting. There's an old pond
on my lease, and I'll hunt it till dark, and
then I go in there and look at trail cameras
and I see where hogs came in there an hour
after I left, you know, Oh yeah.

Speaker 2 (48:01):
Yeah, yeah, yeah.

Speaker 3 (48:02):
That's the only way you're going to get them, unless
you wait six months for them to and never go
in there again for six months and let them forget.

Speaker 2 (48:11):
But they got good memories.

Speaker 3 (48:13):
And if you shoot Bill Kenny from over at Cca gosh,
probably forty years ago, close to it, thirty years ago. Anyway,
we went on a hog hunt one time, and he
was all gung ho in it before I ever got
near it, and he was telling me how on this
particular ranch these hogs had gone nocturnal because he'd been
out there hunting for a couple of weekends and it

(48:34):
was all we could do. I don't even remember if
we got a shot that day. It just it was
the pigs, and there were signs of pig everywhere. They'd
torn that place up, but you couldn't find one during
the day. I'll get some information, like go ahead.

Speaker 12 (48:52):
They're not like a scope where you're actually looking through glass.
I mean you are looking to his glass, but there
it's basically, from what I understand of video camera, it's
thermal imaging.

Speaker 2 (49:02):
That's what it is.

Speaker 3 (49:03):
It's the same thing that they use in a police
helicopter to find the bad guy running through the woods.

Speaker 12 (49:09):
Yeah, Doug, there's actually two times I'm going to mention
that you've got the thermal you got the thermal imaging,
but then you other have you have the other and
I can't think of the word for it, but it
basically uses ambient amplifies well yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.

Speaker 3 (49:24):
Just if there's a star in the sky two billion
light years away. It magnifies that light to where you
can kind of see what you're looking at. It's not
just the heat image. It's an actual image. It's enhanced
because they it sucks in all the light around you.

Speaker 8 (49:40):
Well.

Speaker 12 (49:41):
And also, Doug, the one I'm looking at is like
four hundred dollars and I don't know that may be cheap,
but it has what's called an infrared illuminator. Okay, I
guess it's kind of like the the IR on a
trail camera. But I'm wondering, if you turn that thing on,
is that something that hogs can see? I don't are

(50:01):
they going to run off if they that thing on?

Speaker 3 (50:04):
You know, I don't know that the hog would run
away from a small piece of light. I got to
tell you what George. George is on the phone too,
and he he says he knows a little something about
night vision. You want to hear what he's got to say,
because he knows more than.

Speaker 12 (50:16):
I want to hang up and listen.

Speaker 2 (50:17):
All right, man, Thanks, thank you, you got it man?
All right, expert night vision scope? Man, George, what's listen? Thanks?

Speaker 5 (50:26):
Doc?

Speaker 9 (50:26):
Listen, if if a little bit of knowledge is a
dangerous thing, I'm gonna cause a lot of trouble. Yeah, buddy, Well,
the things that I looked.

Speaker 8 (50:36):
At there were three things.

Speaker 9 (50:38):
At the bottom end of cost was a laser that
did have a signature.

Speaker 8 (50:45):
In other words, the animal could see the laser.

Speaker 2 (50:48):
Okay, it was, you.

Speaker 9 (50:49):
Know, for three or four or five hundred dollars, and
I don't recall who made the one that I first
started out with, but it'll reach out there one hundred
hundred and fifty yards and you could tighten up the beam.
But like I say, the critter could see that. Now
the critter cannot see infrared or of course, thermal. And

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my advice on some like this is get the you
just go right straight to thermal and get the best
one you can can find.

Speaker 8 (51:20):
I settled on.

Speaker 9 (51:22):
I settled on thermion by pulsar after going the route
with ATM.

Speaker 8 (51:30):
Now ATN does.

Speaker 9 (51:32):
A lot of military applications, but those are out of
reach for all of us. That are probably illegal anyway,
and pretty much all of the infrared and night vision
that you're pivoted from exporting. But the ATM infrared, I
was not happy with that at all. Okay, and then

(51:53):
but you could get in reasonably for you know, seven hundred,
eight hundred thousand dollars.

Speaker 8 (51:58):
Now this is going back two or three maybe four years.

Speaker 10 (52:00):
Wow, but but the uh.

Speaker 9 (52:04):
And then I got one of their infrared uh I'm sorry, thermals,
and it was decent. And then a friend of mine
got a pulsar Thermion. Uh, you know, and you're going
to be in that twenty five.

Speaker 8 (52:17):
Hundred dollars range. That was astounding. Listen here, none of
us took this up to save money, so it don't
even start.

Speaker 9 (52:24):
I don't want to hear it, all right, golfing, golfing, shooting.

Speaker 2 (52:32):
Yeah, you're fair.

Speaker 9 (52:33):
But but but but really, go right straight to Thermo Vision.
Get as good a product as you can get. A
pulsar is great. There's there are several good ones out there.

Speaker 2 (52:44):
That makes sense to me. George, thank you.

Speaker 8 (52:46):
Doc, and you bad it's good to talk to you again.

Speaker 2 (52:49):
Yes, sir audios.

Speaker 3 (52:52):
That's my favorite veterinarian right there, my favorite veterinarian. He
he's one of us. I mean, he is, he's he
knows his stuff. I would I would take that. I
want to take that advice and.

Speaker 2 (53:03):
Run with it.

Speaker 3 (53:03):
Yeah, if a little bit of knowledge is a dangerous thing.
I'm probably on four or five watch list right now.
All right, we gotta take a little break.

Speaker 6 (53:12):
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Speaker 2 (53:22):
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Speaker 3 (53:25):
Thank you for listening. Boy, I hope everybody's still just
leaning into the radio because we're we're on night vision
and we're gonna stay there for a minute.

Speaker 2 (53:34):
Carl, what's up, buddy? Hey, Good morning Doug, Good Morninging. Well,
how were you? Hey?

Speaker 13 (53:39):
Uh so, I wanted to help your listener out who
was kind of in the market for a night vision Yeah,
thermal please. I have experience with the ATN xcite. It's
the Excite five.

Speaker 2 (53:53):
Okay. I had this about three years ago.

Speaker 13 (53:56):
I ended up returning it. It's it has a lot
of neat features. You can go online, you can see videos,
and the videos show you very accurately what you see.
But you know, the Xcite that I purchased, it was
about eight hundred dollars for the unit, and.

Speaker 2 (54:19):
Which was very reasonable.

Speaker 13 (54:21):
Now there's a lot there's others out there than the
same ATN line that you can go, you know, spend
a lot of money. Sure, but the one I think
there was another version, the Xcite three and Xcite five.
There were roughly in the same number range dollar amount, Okay,

(54:42):
that the difference was the optics in the power. So
let me just tell you I would steer away from Aten,
at least in that lower range. I don't have any
experience in the higher dollar and maybe they're better, but
they have a lot of neat features, and all the
features kind of work. If every one of them worked

(55:07):
like it's supposed to, it would be fantastic. But let
me just kind of explain what happened. And apparently this
was very common with a lot of these night vision scopes.

Speaker 2 (55:21):
I bought a unit, mounted it on my gun. It's
very good.

Speaker 13 (55:25):
I mean it it offers like a one shot side
in type capability and that and that worked. You shoot
once and you can kind of go dial it in.
You can, uh, you know, adjust it on your scope
and and and like your listeners said earlier, you're you're
looking through a scope, but what you're seeing is you're

(55:47):
looking at a video screen inside the scope. And and
you can switch from day vision to night vision. Uh,
the one shot feature did work on my unit, and
it was very accurate.

Speaker 2 (55:59):
Okay.

Speaker 13 (56:00):
The problem that I experienced was it would freeze occasionally.
So what happened is the view that you saw, especially
after you fired. If you fired a shot, the image
would freeze.

Speaker 3 (56:21):
Had you got a recycle, you would have to reboot
it in other words, which means.

Speaker 13 (56:27):
You'd have to turn it off and turn it back on.
Sometimes that didn't help you. Sometimes you literally had to
pull the batteries out and we install the batteries.

Speaker 2 (56:38):
So I bought it.

Speaker 13 (56:40):
I went up to the hill country, went hunting. I
was able to shoot a deer with it in the daytime.

Speaker 3 (56:45):
Legal, hy, wait a minute, but I did use it,
so okay.

Speaker 13 (56:52):
The reason the reason why I ended up returning it
was I had the opportunity to show two really nice
dough and I shot the first one and I missed
the second shot because the other thing that it did.
It didn't freeze on me this time. But what it

(57:14):
did was it the first shot it through the I
guess the recoil reset ther your redicals back to factory zero.
Oh boy, So when I shot the second time, I
could clearly see that I missed.

Speaker 2 (57:35):
Low and to the right.

Speaker 13 (57:37):
So I immediately took it back down to our little shooting
range and I took another shot and it shot exactly
where it was at factory zero.

Speaker 2 (57:46):
Oh wow. And so at that point I thought, you.

Speaker 13 (57:50):
Know, I've had a few of these little occasions. And
I did use it at night. It works wonderful at
night one hundred yards problem. Uh, the infrared illuminator. It's
very important that you have that. The animals couldn't see it,
but it does illuminate what you see down range. It

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was really good, but I took it back after this hunt.
I drove back to Houston. I bought it at Gander
Mountain and I took it to the to the desk
and I said, look, I'd really like to replace this
unit with another one because it works. I'm just having
problems with this one. Yeah, and and he said. The

(58:35):
gentleman said, I'm not gonna switch it out with you.
I'm just going to give you a full refund, he said.
He said, I've had seven comeback.

Speaker 4 (58:43):
Now.

Speaker 3 (58:44):
Okay, Hey, I got a run. I'm at the bottom
and I got a bounced carl. But thank you so good.

Speaker 2 (58:49):
Yeah, I appreciate man, that's good. Thank you. All right.

Speaker 3 (58:52):
I want to say, yeah, it's interesting to get feedback
from people who have been there, done that, because I
haven't a lot.

Speaker 2 (58:59):
I've gotten to shoot.

Speaker 3 (58:59):
Those things a few times, and it's fun, no question
about it. But you got to just make sure that
you do your homework and make sure you get a
unit that's gonna work for you. Carl's had his experience,
and I'm glad he shared with us, and I bet
there's a lot more of you out there who who
are in.

Speaker 2 (59:17):
The same boat.

Speaker 3 (59:17):
Found something you like, then maybe it worked, maybe it
didn't work as scheduled, but eventually the cream's gonna rise
to the top and the price is gonna keep coming
down and.

Speaker 2 (59:28):
Be like TV.

Speaker 3 (59:29):
Pretty soon, they'll be giving them away like toasters at
a bank when you open a new account.

Speaker 1 (59:35):
Your rockets and astros live here. We are Sports Talk
seven ninety.

Speaker 6 (59:40):
The conversation continues this as The Doug Pike Show.

Speaker 3 (59:44):
Hey, thirty four Forts Talk, seven nights The Doug Pike Show.

Speaker 2 (59:47):
Thank you for listening. Certainly do appreciate it.

Speaker 3 (59:49):
In this segment, we're gonna talk about a place that
I visited several times many years ago, but haven't been
to in a while, and that's Port Mansfield and specifically
get Away Lodge. And who better to talk about what's
happening on that piece of the Texas coast than the
lodge's new owner. That would be Sandra Henejosa Garza. Let
me click this phone here, think there I go, Sandra.

Speaker 2 (01:00:11):
How are you?

Speaker 14 (01:00:13):
I'm great this morning?

Speaker 15 (01:00:14):
How are you?

Speaker 3 (01:00:14):
I'm pretty well? Are you you guys still cold down
there this morning?

Speaker 16 (01:00:18):
Yeah?

Speaker 17 (01:00:19):
It's still pretty cold here, really a little bit, very much,
and has the wind at least died some a little,
but it's still about twenty miles an hour right now.

Speaker 3 (01:00:31):
Oh my lord. Yeah, I don't blame you for being inside.
I think that's a good good call on a morning
like that. Oh yeah, I'm looking at the wind up
and down the coast now I'm looking at twenty five
twenty two's nineteen twenty Holy cow. All right, Well you're
inside and you're warm. I'm glad that's going on. So
let's talk about the lodge first. Whose idea was it

(01:00:52):
for you to get into that business?

Speaker 18 (01:00:55):
Uh?

Speaker 14 (01:00:55):
Well, I mean it kind of just happened by accident.

Speaker 17 (01:00:58):
I'm moving to court Manfield in you know, you got
to find something to do, and it just kind of evolved,
you know. And I was working for for Mike Sutton
for years. Yeah, kind of changed over to me.

Speaker 3 (01:01:11):
Yeah, what a great. Yeah, that's back under in his day.
That's when I was down there when he was a
lot younger, and so was I back then. I was
down there several times and absolutely enjoyed it every time
I was there.

Speaker 2 (01:01:22):
How long you been at the wheel now?

Speaker 7 (01:01:25):
Well?

Speaker 16 (01:01:25):
I was.

Speaker 17 (01:01:26):
I was running it for twelve years and I've it's
been about a month, maybe six weeks now since.

Speaker 2 (01:01:31):
Oh, it's still very very brand new.

Speaker 16 (01:01:34):
Yes.

Speaker 3 (01:01:35):
Holy I hadn't even finished that bottle of champagne you
popped when you open all right, Well that's good. Did
you make Are you planning any major changes or is
it kind of one of those not broke, don't fix
it deals.

Speaker 14 (01:01:47):
I think it's the not broke over yeah deal.

Speaker 17 (01:01:50):
Yeah, I mean I've been I've been doing it for
a while and it's working pretty good.

Speaker 3 (01:01:54):
Yeah, And I'm guessing you're feeling a little bit better
about the decision now that the economy looks like it's
going to rebound over the next few years.

Speaker 2 (01:02:01):
Huh.

Speaker 17 (01:02:02):
Yes, I've got a lot of comments about that, and
booking seemed to be up.

Speaker 14 (01:02:06):
So it's great.

Speaker 2 (01:02:07):
That's fantam Boy hit, isn't it though.

Speaker 3 (01:02:09):
Yeah, yes, that's the understatement of the day so far.
I heard a lot of optimists. I saw you guys
out there. I'm sorry I didn't get a chance to
talk to you when I was out at the show. Uh,
but yeah, all all week out there, all I heard was, yeah,
this is you know, you're in the the fun money business.

Speaker 2 (01:02:27):
People.

Speaker 3 (01:02:28):
People have to they have to eat, they have to dry,
they have to go to work and all that. But
then on the weekends they get to have fun and
that's when they come see you as a rule. And
it looks like that's gonna go very well. So let's
let's shift to fishing.

Speaker 2 (01:02:40):
Now. How has that been lately?

Speaker 14 (01:02:43):
Fishing has actually been pretty good. You know, the weather's
been off and on.

Speaker 17 (01:02:47):
We've got we get cold snaps and then it's super warm.
And we fished a little just before the show. We
kind of went out looking for big trout and you know,
we found a few, and of course the redfish were
still eating. So so you know, hopefully after this little
front comes through, we'll it'll pick back up.

Speaker 2 (01:03:04):
Now, you talk about red fish, it's kind of funny.

Speaker 3 (01:03:06):
I posted shared a photo I saw a guy throwing
a night crawler.

Speaker 2 (01:03:11):
I think he was in a kayak.

Speaker 3 (01:03:13):
He had these big night crawlers and he flipped one
out somewhere over on the East Coast and the Carolinas,
and a red fish ate it. And I put that
picture up. I said, a red fish would eat a
door knob. It's a red fish elly anything, you know.
Just Sandra Henajosa Garza from Getaway Lodge in Port Mansfield
on the Doug Pike Show this morning, how have fishermen

(01:03:35):
along your stretch of the coast taken to the three
fish limit?

Speaker 14 (01:03:39):
I really haven't heard that many complaints.

Speaker 17 (01:03:41):
You know, there's always, you know, a few that really
don't like that, especially guys that only come down here
maybe once or twice a year.

Speaker 16 (01:03:49):
You know.

Speaker 14 (01:03:49):
They they want to come enjoy their trivia, which is great.

Speaker 17 (01:03:52):
But I think it's been a great thing for our
base system.

Speaker 14 (01:03:56):
So I have no complaints at all.

Speaker 3 (01:03:59):
So and I would presume, based on what I'm hearing
from up here and even farther down south from you,
that it's not just any particular size of fish that
seemed to be a little bit better.

Speaker 2 (01:04:10):
It's just across the board, isn't it?

Speaker 14 (01:04:12):
Absolutely? Yes, the quality of fish is so has improved
a lot.

Speaker 3 (01:04:17):
That's so good. What's what's your kind of up to
fish lately? What you mentioned? A couple of big trout?
How what's big in Port Mansfield?

Speaker 17 (01:04:27):
Kind of average has been maybe about five six pounds.
It has been a few bigger ones, but five six pounds,
you know, twenty six, twenty seven?

Speaker 2 (01:04:35):
Oh my gosh, quality a few of those?

Speaker 14 (01:04:38):
Yes, yes, so?

Speaker 3 (01:04:40):
And what what have they been eating besides doorknobs that
the redfish miss?

Speaker 17 (01:04:47):
Well, you know that last week you know we fished, Yeah,
there were We were throwing some ky whigglers and some
manchild knockers, but they ate that that orange eight oh
one that Kay Whigglers had. We really hadn't even used
out loure, but somebody was using it so that we'll
give it a shot.

Speaker 14 (01:05:03):
And they were just eating that up, did you guys?
And then we caught a few on mintild knockers too.

Speaker 3 (01:05:10):
Okay, that's nothing wrong with that. Did do you guys
have any trouble at all with that freezer while back?

Speaker 17 (01:05:16):
No, it didn't seem to affect us at all, and
he didn't really see any dead fish.

Speaker 3 (01:05:21):
I think that was the worst of that was hit Louisiana.
We were I think this whole coast of ours, really
we really dodged one there. As you mentioned redfish, you
got plenty of those. I would presume, Yes, there's plenty
of those, and you kind of you know, you laugh
about it now, but I can remember back because I'm
so old, I can remember back when. And I've talked

(01:05:43):
to other guys in my age group who remember this vividly.
You could go for three four days and not catch
a red fish, and fishing hard, you'd catch a lot
of trout, but you couldn't find a red fish, and that, yeah,
I remember that.

Speaker 2 (01:05:55):
Seemed to have gotten over that. Huh.

Speaker 14 (01:05:58):
Yes, They're plentiful for sure.

Speaker 3 (01:06:01):
So what about Port Mansfield itself? I used to drive
down south once or twice a month back when I
was at the paper and fish all up and down
the coast. Port Mansfield was probably one of the least
crowded places I ever went to.

Speaker 2 (01:06:14):
Has that changed in recent years?

Speaker 14 (01:06:17):
Not really. It's still pretty quiet. I mean, you get
you know, you got your tournament season, and it.

Speaker 17 (01:06:22):
Gets it gets busy here. But you know, really it's
it's not that bad. It's still pretty fish and it's
my favorite place obviously.

Speaker 3 (01:06:32):
Well, yeah, I don't blame you too. It's it is
such a it's a different pace than up here. I
was thinking about it when I was kind of making
some notes this morning.

Speaker 2 (01:06:40):
There's probably more.

Speaker 3 (01:06:41):
There's probably more cars on the Southwest Freeway right now
between sugar Land and the Galleria where I'm sitting now.

Speaker 2 (01:06:48):
Then there then we'll go through Port Mansfield.

Speaker 14 (01:06:51):
All week oh absolutely.

Speaker 2 (01:06:54):
And yeah, and you like it that way too, don't you?

Speaker 5 (01:06:57):
Yes?

Speaker 2 (01:06:57):
For sure?

Speaker 8 (01:06:58):
For you?

Speaker 3 (01:06:59):
Is it is it getting crowded on the water at
all other than tournaments? I guess that's almost a weekly
thing now, isn't it.

Speaker 17 (01:07:05):
Yeah, just about you know, come especially May, June, July.

Speaker 14 (01:07:11):
It's gonna be crowded on the weekends for sure.

Speaker 3 (01:07:13):
And I'm guessing moving farther down the calendar once the
hunting seasons come up, you'll do some doves and ducks.

Speaker 17 (01:07:20):
Absolutely, yeah, du It is very popular, so we'll be
very busy.

Speaker 8 (01:07:24):
All right.

Speaker 2 (01:07:24):
So here's a big question that matters to you the most.

Speaker 3 (01:07:26):
How can people get a hold of you so they
can come down and see what's going on at Getaway Launch.

Speaker 17 (01:07:32):
Oh, they can get on our website and if they
send a message, it'll come straight to me.

Speaker 14 (01:07:36):
Of course. Call the office. They'll be talking to me.

Speaker 2 (01:07:39):
What's the number.

Speaker 14 (01:07:43):
Four thousand.

Speaker 2 (01:07:44):
Oh, that's an easy one. That's good. Yes, you've already
got that working for you.

Speaker 3 (01:07:49):
Every now and then, somebody's got like ten numbers into
one of each digit and nobody's gonna remember that. Nine
four four four thousand. That's pretty easy. Sandra, thank you
so much for your time this morning.

Speaker 14 (01:08:03):
You're welcome.

Speaker 2 (01:08:04):
I may try and sneak down there this summer.

Speaker 3 (01:08:06):
I got I left ten vacation days on the table
last year, and I'm not doing that this year.

Speaker 2 (01:08:13):
I might, I might.

Speaker 14 (01:08:15):
I'm gonna be definitely come down.

Speaker 2 (01:08:16):
Yeah, I'm gonna come knock on your door. Sandra, Thanks
a lot. Holler if you you know, if anything's.

Speaker 3 (01:08:20):
Going on down there that my my people up here
need to know about, please feel free to call. Okay,
don't be sure. Thank you, you bet, thank you all right,
We'll see you bye bye, Okay. Sandra and a host
of Garza. She and her husband running that place down
there now. After Mike gave it up. Uh, that's who
I I remember now her being down there. I don't know, No,

(01:08:44):
maybe not because I hadn't been down there in more
than twelve years, so she would not.

Speaker 2 (01:08:49):
Have been there even when I went down there last.

Speaker 3 (01:08:52):
But yeah, a fantastic place right there on the water
and access to a whole lot of good Middle Texas
coach South Texas Coast stuff. And again the hunting too,
can get really hot and heavy down there. Seven one
three two one two five is seven ninety. Email me
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me know and I'll give it to you.

Speaker 2 (01:09:18):
I'll hang on to it.

Speaker 3 (01:09:19):
Around here, we have got to take a little break. Well,
go to this one dry. I'm just gonna go straight out.

Speaker 2 (01:09:24):
And by the way, Uh, it's.

Speaker 3 (01:09:26):
Thanks to people like I've talked about this morning, Phoenix Knives,
Bellville meat Market, black Horse, Brassis, River Provisions, all of
these great sponsors, American Shooting Center, vip Autoglass, all of
these sponsors this show are the reason I get to
keep doing this for you guys, And if you're interested
in becoming one of those family members with me. The

(01:09:47):
only person you need to talk to is me. Is
me picked up somebody this week as a matter of fact,
by letting you know that that can happen, and he's
gonna probably be on within a week. I'm not going
to even tell you who he is, just shit, but
a lot of you guys are going to be glad
to know about this guy. Glad to know about him.
I'm going to see him next week. I'm going to

(01:10:08):
see the factory in which he makes what he makes
and it's not a phishing lure, although there's I don't
know if you could turn one of those into a
fishing lure or not. They kind of look like a
phishing lure. And that's all I'll tell you at getting
the Weeds. But the bottom line is all you have
to do is either email me or if you know
my cell phone number, you can call me. Just email

(01:10:29):
me Dougpike at iHeartMedia dot com and let me know
you want to want to find out about taking advantage
of this audience and helping them learn more about your
business because they will.

Speaker 2 (01:10:39):
Respond so well. The whole audience a kb in me.

Speaker 3 (01:10:42):
I've got a great formula that I use to get
small businesses started, and I've got a great formula for
a larger business to take full advantage of all the
assets we offer here.

Speaker 2 (01:10:55):
All you got to do is email me.

Speaker 3 (01:10:57):
We'll take a little break here, We'll be right back
The Doug Pike Show on Talk seven ninety.

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Speaker 2 (01:11:11):
Hey forty nine on Sports Talk seven ninety. Holy cow,
we just don't have that much time left in this hour.
This one went really fast, by the way.

Speaker 3 (01:11:18):
At the top of the hour, when we get back
at nine o'clock, I'm gonna have Tommy O'Brien on the phone,
the guy who has been helping me with my golf
game for quite some time now.

Speaker 2 (01:11:26):
At black Hawk.

Speaker 3 (01:11:28):
I bump into him accidentally and on purpose as often
as I can and just absorb whatever he wants to
tell me. And he promised me he's gonna tell me
this morning. He said he wouldn't talk to talk about
it yesterday when I heard from him, but he said, look,
you want you want distance in your golf swing. You

(01:11:52):
want more distance, and like, yeah, give it to me,
Give it to me, it's like an addict.

Speaker 2 (01:11:57):
I want to hit it farther.

Speaker 3 (01:11:58):
Everybody wants to hit it farther as long as we
can keep hitting it straight. If we're doing that now,
straighter and farther, and I don't know which is really well, honestly,
I think straighter is important, but I want to hit
it farther as well. I'll never be able to hit
it as far as I could when I was in
my thirties and forties, and even in my fifties I
still had a pretty strong swing. But where I am now,

(01:12:21):
I'm losing distance and I know it, and I don't
know what I can do about it. But he tells
me for sure that he can add it, and if
anybody can do it, he can. He's all up into
all the gadgets that are out there, all the electronics.
If there's anything new that has a battery that runs it,
he's got it and he knows how to operate it.

Speaker 2 (01:12:43):
And I've seen some really cool stuff.

Speaker 3 (01:12:45):
So we'll have that coming up after we get back
from the break.

Speaker 2 (01:12:49):
On the way there, I'm going to give you.

Speaker 3 (01:12:54):
Another page from the game Warden, the game warden notes,
which are very very cool. What is this, Oh, I
know what this is? Which do I want to do?
They're both, well, this one's interesting. I found it that way.
And if if you're ever out and you see something
weird and different, see what Dave is.

Speaker 2 (01:13:15):
They've got an update on something. I'd love to hear it.

Speaker 3 (01:13:17):
So in November, back in Bowie County, there came a
call to the game wardens that there was some guy
out claiming to be an undercover game warding working the
right Patman Lake Spillway. The person who called said this
supposed warden was checking fish and fishing licenses and talking
about the legality of the fish being kept and whatnot. Well,

(01:13:41):
what they did was get the guys description and license
plate number, and the guy's plate was actually registered in Arkansas,
so a little suspicious to be an undercover Texas game warden.

Speaker 2 (01:13:55):
That didn't sound right.

Speaker 3 (01:13:57):
So the wardens get out there and they can't find him.
But while they were they ended up working with the
Arkansas game wardens and they went to the guy's house
and all of a sudden, this guy's back at the
Spillway again making the same claim. So they went straight there.
They found him watching him. He's wearing law enforcement gear too.

(01:14:20):
He wasn't armed, but he was. He was trying to
tell people he was an undercover game warden, but he's in.
Bottom line is he's just a knucklehead, a total knucklehead.
And he denied all that said he was just there
because he worked for a road construction company. But they
got enough to bust him and charges are pending because

(01:14:43):
you can't do that. You can't do that. There's something
here about guys being caught shooting doves. Oh man, from
bad to worse. These guys are shooting doves over bait,
clearly busted. And then in one of the empty feed
sacks in the back of one of these guys' trucks

(01:15:05):
are two young turkeys that one of the two guys
had shot and told the other guy to get rid of,
but the other guy hadn't gotten rid of them yet.
They just kept walking themselves into a deeper and deeper hole.
You ever do that before, Melvin, No, this is some
really interesting hunting news.

Speaker 2 (01:15:26):
Oh. I mean, I love these things.

Speaker 3 (01:15:29):
And they were they sent these out every week for
a while, and they've only been resurrected in the last
maybe two or three weeks. But there's just just countless
stories of just a goofy weird stuff these poor game
wardens have to deal with on a daily basis.

Speaker 2 (01:15:44):
Wow.

Speaker 3 (01:15:45):
November two, Calhoun County Offshore Patrol out of Port O'Connor
find boats out there fishing right along the nine nautical
miles is what determined state water or federal water. Federal water,
the season on red snapper closes for most of the year.
It's only open for just maybe a few weeks a month,

(01:16:07):
month and a half tops, before the recreational catch is
all done. In state water, you can fish for red
snapper year round. Well, what happens is these guys will
go out there and they'll run out farther where they
know the snapper are going to be more plentiful, and
then try to find their way back into state water
before they get busted. Well, these guys got busted for

(01:16:30):
possession of eleven red snapper in federal water during the
federal closure. And it says here the red snapper were
measured in photographed for evidence before being donated to those
in need. I wonder, Yeah, you know, I trust game wardens,
I really do. They're probably some of the most honest,

(01:16:51):
hard working people you'll ever find anywhere.

Speaker 2 (01:16:54):
They truly, truly are.

Speaker 3 (01:16:57):
Favorite fish to eat. Melboyne pop quiz for me, Yeah,
for you trout speckled or rainbow rainbow. Oh you like
the rainbow trout? So you buying them at a grocery store.

Speaker 2 (01:17:13):
No, I've had it and it was Oh I know,
Oh my god, I know.

Speaker 3 (01:17:16):
Well, you need to keep an eye out for actually
Missouri city that ponnd Over that way, right, they get
stocked with rainbow trout in the winter time. There might
be a few of them left in there. I have
to check on the stocking dates. I think I may
have that paperwork available. If not, it's online. That's something
I haven't talked about much this year, but it's worth
talking about if you've got kids in town, or if

(01:17:38):
the kids are about to I don't know. We're getting
close to spring break now. Most of those fish have
probably either already been caught by people or cormorants, but
they're still in a lot of these lakes around here.
Probably are some of some really good little fun rainbow
troiut especially for the kids to catch. Some of them
are pretty small, barely worth the air it would take

(01:18:00):
to clean them and eat them. But if you catch
one of the bigger ones, or two or three of
the bigger ones, if you find a lake that still
had a recent stocking of them, it's worth it.

Speaker 2 (01:18:10):
It's definitely worth it.

Speaker 3 (01:18:12):
They love little trout nibbles, some of that prepared artificial bait.
They love nightcrawlers. There are lures they'll eat, super duper
spoons if you can find them. They love those. In
clearer lakes. Any of these lakes that get stocked that
have a little bit off color water, you're probably better

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off going with some something that really smells and they
can find on the bottom.

Speaker 2 (01:18:36):
I used to like to use.

Speaker 3 (01:18:38):
The floating trout nibbles or whatever they were. They were
actually little balls of foam that are just soaked and
soaked and soaked in some scented thing, whatever it is.
I don't know whether it smells like a grasshopper or
a nightcrawler or whatever, but they love them. And what
I would do is rig it to where there's a weight,
a little piece of split shot down about maybe twelve

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inches or so from the actual hook. I'd use a
fairly small hook so that one or maybe two of
those little bait things would float that thing and throw
it all out there and it hits the bottom and
the weight goes to the bottom, and the bait actually
floats up because it's bullyant and it can float that

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hook and it gets it up off of any grass
or garbage or whatever is on the bottom of the lake.
And if the fish are deep, then that's where you're
gonna find them. Not a bad idea of fish one
under a cork either. If the water's more than about
four or five feet deep, fish one about.

Speaker 2 (01:19:37):
Three feet down.

Speaker 3 (01:19:38):
And then if you've got enough people around, fish one
about maybe a foot under the surface, because every now
and then they'll come up high and just figure out
where they are. And then once you figure out where
they are on the water column, they get a little
easier to catch. We are gonna take another little break.
We are going to run out driest toast. And a
reminder again if you want a part of this family.

(01:19:59):
I've got room for probably three, maybe four more members
this year so far, and I would love to I
would love to have a full house. I love speaking
for companies. I trust people I like who are in
business and they're they're like us. They're all outdoorsmen. They
all love what they're doing, and they all have a

(01:20:20):
passion for conservation, for fishing, for hunting, for golf, whatever
it is. And if your business could use a bunch
more people like that in its doors, then call me.
I'll hook you up Doug Pike at iHeartMedia dot com.
Start with an email and see if I can't get
some more more of you on board so we can
all have a better time and all enjoy a little

(01:20:42):
bit more time outdoors. Now, if I make your business
busier and you have to work a little more, sorry,
that comes with the comes with the territory. But then
toward the end of the year, maybe we'll all get
together and go play golf out at black Hawk.

Speaker 2 (01:20:54):
I'm thinking about doing that.

Speaker 3 (01:20:55):
I'm gonna have a kind of a sponsor's day out
there and haul a few people out there at a time.
I'm not going to try to overload them, but I'm
going that sounds like a great idea. I think it's
a wonderful idea. We may challenge Brian and Shawn's audience.
That's what we ought to do. They got a couple
of people they could bring to We'll we'll have competitions.

Speaker 2 (01:21:15):
I'll hook it up I'll figure out a way. All right,
we gotta take a little break here. We'll be right
back to The Doug Pike Show on Sports Talk seven ninety.

Speaker 1 (01:21:22):
This is the Doug Pike Show, brought to you by
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Speaker 2 (01:21:31):
Now here's Doug Pike.

Speaker 3 (01:21:33):
Nine o three on Sports Talk seven ninety, The Doug
Pike Show. Thank you for listening, certainly to appreciate it.
We'll shift gears to golf, and before I go to
what's going on down in Mexico at the Open, which
is pretty big tournament down there. Had to qualify at Blackhawk.
As a matter of fact, this passed a week ago.
Tomorrow or no, we could go Monday, and it was

(01:21:54):
a pretty interesting No, it wasn't. It wasn't Monday. It wasn't.
It couldn't have been anyway, doesn't matter. We're gonna talk
to Tommy O'Brien. I'm gonna get him on the phone
right now.

Speaker 9 (01:22:03):
T O.

Speaker 5 (01:22:03):
What's up, Doug?

Speaker 2 (01:22:05):
How are you doing?

Speaker 3 (01:22:06):
I'm doing great, man, I'm I'm really enthralled with what
we're going to talk about here. And right out the gate,
when you called yesterday. You shared some great personal news.
You want to share that part too, or you just
want to get into what you told me after that
about distance.

Speaker 11 (01:22:22):
Absolutely, my daughter Abigail just accepted a full ride to
Houston Christian University form the HBU Universal.

Speaker 2 (01:22:29):
Volleyball. No, no, no, I'm the golf.

Speaker 16 (01:22:34):
But that's been a dream of hers.

Speaker 5 (01:22:36):
Doug and Gosh, you.

Speaker 11 (01:22:38):
Can remember, and uh, it was great. It was great
to share that moment with her, for sure.

Speaker 2 (01:22:43):
It was.

Speaker 3 (01:22:44):
Man, I'm looking. I'm still looking to get a ride somewhere.
You think I can find it. Maybe I got to
get it a little better, made you get a little better.

Speaker 11 (01:22:52):
You've got, you know, one year eligibility left.

Speaker 2 (01:22:54):
I think you're good. I'm gonna be on team a ARP.

Speaker 3 (01:22:57):
I think they have a team, you know, aar piece scholarship.

Speaker 2 (01:23:04):
Oh my words, no distance.

Speaker 7 (01:23:06):
Man.

Speaker 3 (01:23:07):
When you said the word yesterday, you want to talk
about distance, I thought to myself, everybody who plays golf
wants to talk about distance.

Speaker 2 (01:23:15):
That's not exclusive to me.

Speaker 3 (01:23:17):
I get a lot of emails about things that can
help me hit it farther. I get a lot of
social media stuff about it. But I'm not twenty five anymore. Okay,
I'm not twenty five, and I mean everybody wants to
get more distance.

Speaker 2 (01:23:32):
What do we do, Tommy, what do we do well?

Speaker 11 (01:23:35):
First, first and foremost, And everyone's heard this a bunch.
You got to hit it solid, so you got to
make sure hitting it solidly. But what what we are
finding now with these force plates that actually measure measure
the force that a great player or a long hitter
is applying to the ground. They're called ground reactive forces.
And if you can get these right, then all of

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a sudden, you're using your entire body to hit the
ball as far as you can. What happens to most
people is that, let's say this, someone's one hundred and
eighty pounds and as they swing, they're actually swinging like
someone who's one hundred and forty pounds. They're losing a
lot of their mass and weight they could be applying
as force into the golf ball right there, and that's

(01:24:20):
why they hit it short. You're people are not as
weak or as not gifted or whatever do they think
as they think they're just not being efficient. And so again,
what these these force plates do where people stand on
them and they tell you when you're pressing into the ground.
What these plays do is they show you how to
be more efficient and essentially to give the layman's term

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something that could be kind of understandable. Along the radio
we set up, but say I'm one hundred and eighty
pounds whenever I set up at a dress right there. Okay,
as I swing back, I'm going to get lighter. I'm
going to become more almost weightless, if you will, in
the backswing. As I start in the transition, I'll apply
some force making myself heavier, and.

Speaker 5 (01:25:03):
Then again I've got to become lighter again.

Speaker 11 (01:25:06):
As I come through the shot. Now, some people will
describe that as it kind of sounds like you're jumping
a little bit, and there's an you could absolutely say
that's kind of a feel of it right here. And
what's funny about that is that as we've grown up,
we were told to stay then over, to stay down,
keep our head down, all of these all these things,
and they're finding out that's not what these great players

(01:25:26):
do that hit the ball a ton. I mean, Rory
McElroy's maybe one hundred and sixty five pounds so.

Speaker 5 (01:25:31):
Wet, but yet he flies at.

Speaker 11 (01:25:34):
Three twenty whenever they're at the tailor made on veils
and he's hitting shots with the dustin Johnson's and you
know all the other guys that are huge hitters on
the he.

Speaker 16 (01:25:43):
Out drives them.

Speaker 11 (01:25:44):
They're like, how in the heck are you doing that? Well,
he's he's maximizing those forces right there. And so that's
that's a major key of it is to is to
use literally everything your mama gave you to hit the
ball as far as you can. That way, if you
are a new golfer, a young golfer, an old golfer,
you can gain some serious clubhead speed. The guy that

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I was watching in Atlanta, John Tattersall's and working with
a gentleman that was playing the tour, his clubhead speed
with driver was one hundred and ten miles an hour
after working on what I've been talking to you about.
It's one hundred and eighteen miles an hour. And he
didn't all of a sudden I know, and that you know,
every mile an hour is three yards of distance, So
you do the quick math, right, that's twenty five yards

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essentially right there. And he didn't all of a sudden
grow new muscles. He didn't get younger, he didn't do
any of that. So that's the cool thing is that
all of these different instruments that we can use, force plates,
track man, all that can really show you how to
be efficient and truly.

Speaker 8 (01:26:45):
Make a difference.

Speaker 11 (01:26:46):
Even in this guy's studio was indoors, it wasn't even outside,
and incredible what they can do to help people get
more speed and hit the ball.

Speaker 2 (01:26:55):
It's full further.

Speaker 3 (01:26:56):
Tommy O'Brien on the Doug Pike Show this morning, from
out there, he's out of black Hawk, I'm stuck in
the studio.

Speaker 2 (01:27:02):
One thing that you've.

Speaker 3 (01:27:03):
Always kind of told me about trying to hit it farther,
because I always ask about it every time i'm with
you is not to swing harder, just swing faster. And
that's what this enables you to do, right.

Speaker 12 (01:27:15):
It does.

Speaker 11 (01:27:17):
Like in your case, you weren't really loading up as
well going back, and that's why we kind of had
you feel like if I gave you the elastic stretchy
band and I had you feel like you stretched it
in your back swing, you say, wow, I feel like
I'm getting taller when I do. That's that's kind of
what a load will feel like. And in your case,
you'll move a bit to the left because you're left handed,

(01:27:37):
you'll move a bit to the left as you do
that right there, But you'll feel like you're getting taller
when you do that, And I would want you to
feel like you're getting lighter as you do that right here,
Like like from there, your arms even kind of just
float to the top of the swing, not even being
cognizant of being position conscious or anything of that effect.
Right there, it's kind of a we're going to focus

(01:27:57):
on your body and where your weight's at doing this,
And people cannot believe the energy they can put into
the club and then deliver right back.

Speaker 2 (01:28:06):
To the ball.

Speaker 11 (01:28:07):
If you don't load the club up to begin with
in the backswing, Doug, you're not going to have any
any power going through it.

Speaker 3 (01:28:12):
That's like a rubber band if you don't pull it back, Yeah,
rubber band. If you don't pull it back, it doesn't
stretch and you don't get the full impact.

Speaker 2 (01:28:20):
I came up.

Speaker 3 (01:28:21):
I thought about this why you were talking about the
ground force defeat. It's kind of like the difference between
standing on a two by ten and trying to jump
and standing on a diving board and trying to jump right.

Speaker 2 (01:28:35):
That makes sense a little bit.

Speaker 11 (01:28:37):
Yes, absolutely, It's just a case of when you apply
the force.

Speaker 2 (01:28:41):
It's such a big deal.

Speaker 8 (01:28:44):
Force proceeds motion.

Speaker 11 (01:28:45):
That's kind of what I've been taught. So when you
see something moving in a golf swing, there was force
that preceded that to make that motion happen. I just
might blow your mind a little bit here, Doug. But
like for a right handed golfer, that pushing up motion,
that extending motion in the backswing is done by your
lead leg. So as I go back, I'm going to

(01:29:06):
push off my left to help me extend and get
on the downswing. I'm going to push off my right
and then extend on my left. Right here Again, it
sounds a bit complicated, but like I said, once you
get the feel of it, coming a bike looks.

Speaker 5 (01:29:19):
Complicated whenever you first ride up.

Speaker 11 (01:29:20):
For the first time, but once you get to feel it,
it's like, oh my goodness, I feel this, I understand,
and the results are just incredibly effective really quickly too.
It's amazing how when someone's not been doing this, how
quickly a result they can get.

Speaker 3 (01:29:37):
Yeah, like a bicycle and golf swing, I'm going to
end up with skin knees both ways. Probably let's shift
gears for just a minute because don't want to run
out of time with you. But let's talk about when
you walk down that tea line out there at black Hawk,
you're looking at all kinds of different swings. What is
the single most common mistake you see with amber.

Speaker 11 (01:30:02):
Typically not a square face at some point in their
golf swing, which a square face will help direction like
you were talking about earlier on a but before a break,
and then it also helped good contact. I mean a
square face is very, very important, and the person could
be opening in the backswing too much, it could be
opening in the downswing too much. People tend to get
away with having a closed face. That's a better problem

(01:30:24):
to have than an open face, because again, if you
have an open face, you're turning your eight iron into
a wedge, you're turning your your four iron into a
six iron there, Whereas if you are almost a bit
shut with it, you're de lossing it and that's going
to help you one square it up as a novice golfer,
and two hit it further. That is actually what has
been proven to lower people's handicaps more than direction. Believe

(01:30:47):
it or not, is hitting it further. Like Mark Brody
invented the shots game stat and the PGA Tour, He's
got a cool book called Every Shot Counts. He did
a research project on thousands of golfers, from outright beginners
to tour pros, and essentially what he came up with
is that the people that hit more greens and regulation

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are the ones.

Speaker 16 (01:31:08):
That improve the quickest.

Speaker 11 (01:31:09):
And the quickest way to do that is to have
shorter clubs into greens. All of a sudden, you've got
short irons and to approach shots as opposed to long irons.
You'll hit more greens, and you'll have more birdie chances,
less bogey opportunities, and you'll be good to go on that.
So distance is just a huge piece, And I get
that question all the time. That's why I've studied so
much about it, so I can give people effective lessons
on how to actually hit it further when they come

(01:31:31):
for a long.

Speaker 3 (01:31:32):
I'm all fired up. I'm probably be out there this afternoon.
Holy cow, Now I got so much of mine.

Speaker 16 (01:31:38):
Do you want the pro tip of the day.

Speaker 2 (01:31:42):
That?

Speaker 11 (01:31:42):
Okay, all right, we got the rodeo coming up. Okay,
everybody's seen her a.

Speaker 10 (01:31:46):
Cowboy crack a whip.

Speaker 11 (01:31:49):
Okay, So as you're making that first move going back,
if you feel like the handle drags a bit, that
would be kind of like starting to handle back when
you're going to crack a whip, and then all of
a sudden it makes it easier. You kind of load
the whip, if you will, and then you unload it
as you go through. That's a great way to help
someone gain a lot of clubhead speed without having to

(01:32:10):
do a five week regimen at twenty four hour fitness.
And when I give that illustration to people, they love it.
They oh, I get it.

Speaker 2 (01:32:17):
Oh that makes sense right there.

Speaker 11 (01:32:18):
And that's kind of what I'll help you a little
bit with the next time you come on out.

Speaker 2 (01:32:21):
Is that feeling that.

Speaker 11 (01:32:22):
We've got and then kind of load that handle on
the process, and man, that head just gets energized and
it just zips to the itding zone.

Speaker 3 (01:32:29):
There's going to be people all over the town on
practice ranges right now looking like they're cracking whips this morning.

Speaker 2 (01:32:34):
You realize that, right, I love it. I love it
all right. Dear, don't do crack, God, mercy, don't do crack. Oh, Lord. Yeah,
that's good advice for anybody.

Speaker 3 (01:32:45):
Thank you, Tommy Till You're welcome.

Speaker 8 (01:32:48):
Thank you great, I was talking to you.

Speaker 2 (01:32:50):
Congrats on it.

Speaker 5 (01:32:51):
Thank you.

Speaker 2 (01:32:51):
I'll see buddy audio.

Speaker 10 (01:32:52):
I appreciate it.

Speaker 5 (01:32:53):
Thanks sir, Bye.

Speaker 2 (01:32:54):
Bye, Holy Cow, where did they go? Poof? Okay?

Speaker 5 (01:33:00):
Sor right?

Speaker 2 (01:33:00):
So whoever?

Speaker 8 (01:33:01):
That was?

Speaker 2 (01:33:01):
Yeah, call back after the break. We gotta take a
little break. Sky Mike. That was Sky Mike, Mike Sky
a different guy. Huh.

Speaker 3 (01:33:09):
All right, anyway, we're gonna take a little break here.
When we get back, we'll continue on. I'll take a
look at the Mexico Open, see what's going on down there,
and we'll be back. We'll take a little break here
and be right back to Doug Pike Show on Sports
Talk seven ninety.

Speaker 1 (01:33:22):
This is Sports Talk seven ninety on the go with
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Speaker 3 (01:33:32):
Nine twenty on Sports Talk seven ninety The Doug Pike Show.

Speaker 2 (01:33:35):
Thank you for listening. Holy Cow.

Speaker 3 (01:33:36):
All of a sudden, we're just racing around the clock here.
I want to get to the phone call first, then
I'll get to the Mexico Open. That would be Mike, Mike,
what's up, buddy, Hey, Doug, how you doing.

Speaker 2 (01:33:46):
I'm good, Thank you great, Hey.

Speaker 16 (01:33:49):
I got a quick story on persistence. I went down
to South Podrey last way we can, and I had
one or two days of good weather to de fish,
and I just fished off a dock at a friend
stay house. I was with a I'd never fished before,
and so I was exciting to kind of teach them
how to fish. So I went out to the dock
by myself.

Speaker 10 (01:34:05):
In the morning.

Speaker 16 (01:34:06):
And you know how when you try to pull your
your shrimp from the bait shop, once you get to
the spot into your bait bucket, it's kind of awkward
by yourself. And so I was on the dock and
I was putting it. I thought, where can I lady
this little bait bucket, And so I thought over here
by the edge of the dock, and I thought, no,
I might lose my shrimp. So I went to get

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it positioned and I had my cell phone in my
top pocket and it went out of my top pocket
into the water. It was slow motion, and I was sick,
as you can imagine nine feet of water, and I
just I was sick at my son. But I thought,
what the heck is done, I'll just get another phone
with a paint in the bus about. I'm gonna have
to tell my wife and think anyway, the bottom line

(01:34:51):
kept fishing. I went back and then I went back
in and I thought, I got to tell everyone because
you were down there with this other couple. I said, hey,
I lost my cell.

Speaker 5 (01:34:58):
Phone and they went what.

Speaker 16 (01:35:00):
I go, yeah, well out, I'm not talking into the water.
I go when they said, I said about two hours ago.
He said, let's go try to find it. I go,
it's it's in the water. It's shot. He goes, let's
go try to find it. So we go down there.
He gets in the water. It's like it's like thirty
five degrees thirty ball our win it's freezing.

Speaker 5 (01:35:18):
Yeah, he gets Donny's six to two.

Speaker 16 (01:35:21):
He's in the water for forty minutes. I said, get out.
You're not going to find it. He had one of
those like four foot aluminum nets where and he was
wheeling around and I said, come on out, man, thanks
for trying. And my wife was down there. She goes, yeah,
come on out. He goes, no, No, I want to
get a little He found my phone he poled it
up in the net and it was odd.

Speaker 5 (01:35:41):
Was odd. My saving screen was on.

Speaker 16 (01:35:44):
I pulled it out, turned it off, took it up,
put it in rice, and it's fine. Now, I guess
I found out I'm not trying to do an AD,
but an iPhone. I guess they're all water fruit. So
don't give up on your phone if it gets thrown
in the water.

Speaker 3 (01:35:57):
Yeah, don't give up on anything electronic like that. If
it's well sealed, it's got a shot. You know, it's good.
And there's not that much pressure. It's seven or eight feet,
there's not that much pressure. If you drop it in
forty fifty feet of water, the water might find a
way in, but it's you got a shot. And if
you can find a phone, good for you. You just
saved the grand Yeah.

Speaker 16 (01:36:18):
Well, the funny thing was, I told him, I said
I gave up, you know, and he kept on, It's like,
don't give up. Yeah, I learned a lesson there. You know,
be a little more persistent man. Maybe you'll find it.
My being he did save me a thousand bucks.

Speaker 3 (01:36:32):
My best to find ever on anything like that was
when I was in high school. I was life guarding
at a town home prod you know, town home complex pool. Okay,
a little tiny little pool, little bitty short diving board,
the whole thing. But it's a swimming pool for everybody
who lives there. It wasn't that small. And this girl

(01:36:52):
comes over to me, she's probably fifteen sixteen, and she says,
I lost a contact in the pool. And I'm thinking,
oh boy, what do you want me to do about it?
And then the competitor in me and the challenge acceptor
in me especially, I mean that blood was running hot
back then, and I said, no problem, I got this.

(01:37:15):
And I kept a scuba a little scuba mask by there,
and you know, just just for whatever need I had,
maybe to get something out of the drain or whatever.

Speaker 2 (01:37:24):
And I got blew the whistle.

Speaker 3 (01:37:26):
Got everybody out of the pool, and I swam around
in that pool for probably eight or ten minutes, and
so helped me. Just right in front of me at
one point, Mike, there's this little blue circle.

Speaker 2 (01:37:37):
Almost a half inch and like, well, what.

Speaker 3 (01:37:40):
Do you know, my grandma that they had brought it ahut?
And I mean people were clapping and holy come man.
And then there's a smart alloca. Can we get.

Speaker 2 (01:37:48):
Back in now.

Speaker 3 (01:37:50):
Yeah, yes, you may get back in the pool.

Speaker 2 (01:37:53):
Everybody, but you smart ass.

Speaker 11 (01:37:55):
Yeah, thanks man, Yeah, thank you.

Speaker 2 (01:37:59):
Your story's saved you a thousand bucks.

Speaker 15 (01:38:01):
Well done, mouth and my wife. Yeah, I bet that's
even better. All right, let's see audio. Holy cow found
the phone.

Speaker 2 (01:38:13):
You drop it straight down.

Speaker 3 (01:38:14):
You think it would be straight under where you dropped it,
but you have to remember that phone is a flat surface,
and it's gonna be waffling like a leaf falling from
a tree.

Speaker 2 (01:38:26):
And it could have been in nine feet eight or
nine feet of water.

Speaker 3 (01:38:28):
It could have been six or eight feet away from
where it was actually dropped and first hit the water.

Speaker 2 (01:38:33):
So more power to them.

Speaker 3 (01:38:36):
I don't know if I could have lasted in freezing
cold water for that long, but apparently that guy had
some pretty hot blood running through him.

Speaker 2 (01:38:43):
Good for him.

Speaker 3 (01:38:45):
Seven one three, two, one two five seven ninety Email
me Dugpike at iHeartMedia dot com. Where do I want
to go? Let me get back over here to my
little page of notes. Oh this is a very good one.
Let me find this.

Speaker 2 (01:38:59):
I got an.

Speaker 3 (01:38:59):
Email from the Louisiana we'll see what is officially from
Louisiana Department of Wildlife and Outdoors Tomorrow Foundation and partnered
to bring Outdoor Adventures to schools. That's what the headline
says on this thing and what they have done. Louisiana
has gotten on board now with a program that I'm

(01:39:22):
very confident still is in this school that they're taught
in more than fifteen hundred public and private schools across
all fifty states and Canada.

Speaker 2 (01:39:33):
Where they boot.

Speaker 3 (01:39:33):
Our national anthem recently had a hockey game, but nevermind.
With forty units to choose from, there is something for everyone.
The curriculum I'm reading here is completely adaptable for all
students in any location they have. This group, Outdoor Adventures
has put together lesson plans for kids all the way

(01:39:56):
from kindergarten through the twelfth grade. They include food, just
about anything you can think of that's outdoors related so
that they can just kind of get some hands on
experience and hands on learning about all things outdoors. The
list is pretty extensive. It includes, but is not limited to, angling, archery, camping,

(01:40:20):
wilderness survival skills. I would go sign up for that course,
outdoor cooking, which is very cool, hunter education, first aid,
paddle sports, and more and more and more.

Speaker 2 (01:40:30):
The list just goes on and these units, it says.

Speaker 3 (01:40:33):
Here co WORP correlate very well with Louisiana Department of
Wildlife and Fisheries programs, same as they do with Texas
Parks and Wildlife. If your child's school doesn't have outdoor
adventures classes, find out why not and ask them to
take care of This comes from the Outdoors Tomorrow Foundation.

Speaker 2 (01:40:56):
This group has been around a long time.

Speaker 3 (01:40:57):
I remember interviewing people from their oh gosh, more than once.

Speaker 2 (01:41:02):
It's been a while.

Speaker 3 (01:41:03):
It's probably been a year and a half, maybe two
years since the last.

Speaker 2 (01:41:06):
Time I did.

Speaker 3 (01:41:08):
But if you get with them, they will help bring
that into your school if the school district's okay with it.
And I don't know why it wouldn't be most often
taught as a PE course, which is all the kids
of the older kids especially have to get that. It
says right now, more than twenty seven million classroom hours

(01:41:28):
of outdoor education have been taught since the program started,
and they have reached more than one hundred and sixty
thousand students annually in recent years. It's just the list
of accolades for this bunch goes on and on and on.
So if you need to find out more about it.
You need to go to Outdoors Tomorrow Foundation. Outdoors Tomorrowfoundation

(01:41:53):
dot com. I believe is the website. I'm not sure,
and there's a number here you can find them. If
you you search Outdoors Tomorrow Foundation, they'll pop up.

Speaker 2 (01:42:04):
I'm one hundred percent certain of that.

Speaker 3 (01:42:07):
I'll tell you what little We'll go to this break
early and that way when we get back, I'll have
a little bit more time to yap.

Speaker 6 (01:42:14):
This is Sports Talk seven ninety online at sports seven
ninety dot com.

Speaker 7 (01:42:19):
Now the more Doug Fight.

Speaker 3 (01:42:23):
On Sports Talk seven nine at the Dug Fight Show.
I hope you've been paying attention to the rejoins throughout
the program, because somebody, somebody who's interested in some delicious jams,
jellies and sauces from Breezes River Provisions is going to
have a chance to win that in just a few minutes.

Speaker 2 (01:42:39):
Man.

Speaker 3 (01:42:40):
I take what we ought to do is try to
get somebody on the line now, and if it takes
a little bit, we'll be good.

Speaker 2 (01:42:45):
We will be good. Oh, there's Tommy Wayne in.

Speaker 18 (01:42:49):
Yeah.

Speaker 3 (01:42:49):
I sent him a big thank you for his time
a little while ago. Tommy O'Brien out there at black Hawk.
He can teach by the way he can teach anybody
out there. I think it's Tommy O Golf and Boy.
If he's listing now and I've botched that, I really apologize.
I think I got it right, though. If you need
to get in touch with him, you can just get

(01:43:09):
in touch with me and I'll put you in front
of him.

Speaker 2 (01:43:12):
That's not hard to do. Capm.

Speaker 3 (01:43:13):
Skot weighed in a little while ago on the night vision.
I didn't get a chance to get to his email.
Because it's pretty it's pretty detailed, I said. The scope
the first fellow was talking about is referred to as
digital night vision. I have one from site Mark that
I've used for about eight years. It gathers infrared light
and appears as a black and white image in the eyepiece.

(01:43:34):
Comes with an IR light built in that's infrared. It
can be used without the light on a bright night,
or there are three levels of IR light you can use.
The iron light will burn through batteries. I bet it will.
This scope is best made. It is best for inside
one hundred yards. I try to set up my shots
closer to fifty yards. You can reliably distinguish between deer,

(01:43:56):
pigs and cows at a rep. That's a good thing.
An two hundred and two fifty. I'm saving my pennies
for a thermal. It will not be atn most reasonably
priced for the best seemed to be pulsar thermion. That's
from a guy who does this for a living. Captain Scott,
thank you so very much for weighing in on that.

(01:44:16):
And I don't know what's the issues with some of those,
but it's it's good to hear from people who actually
use this stuff, because I don't right now. It's really
good to hear from people who do and maybe we all,
maybe we all get a little bit better outdoors.

Speaker 2 (01:44:34):
Rudy. Rudy was worried that.

Speaker 3 (01:44:35):
People with night vision are going to end up shooting
from drones and just flying their drones around with a
gun on them and all that stuff.

Speaker 2 (01:44:43):
I doubt it'll get to that. Uh Where am I now?

Speaker 3 (01:44:48):
Holy cow, we've still got some time seven one three
two one two five seven ninety Email me Doug Pike
at iHeartMedia dot com. If you want to win those
gems and jellies, you go right ahead and take a
swing at it. I would be glad to have you
in line to do that, and we actually could do
it before the break, if somebody thinks they're confident enough
and can tee it up and pick a winner, or

(01:45:08):
if we have to, we'll wait till after the break.
That'll be entirely up to Melvin. Okay, let me tie
them up. Hold on, George, what's up?

Speaker 18 (01:45:20):
No, No, I didn't want to get back on. I
have three words regarding this night's vision. Okay, three words,
and that's all. Thermal thermal thermal?

Speaker 3 (01:45:31):
Oh boy, not in the red location location?

Speaker 2 (01:45:37):
Okay, yeah, okay.

Speaker 8 (01:45:39):
The thing.

Speaker 9 (01:45:40):
The thing about infrared is that heavy fog will interfere
with it. Okay, temperature variations will fare with it. And Doug, No,
they're not cars anymore.

Speaker 8 (01:45:50):
They're computers. They're not phones anymore.

Speaker 10 (01:45:53):
Their computers, all of them.

Speaker 9 (01:45:55):
Have the recording capability, the Wi Fi capability, the zero
shot capability, different in color palettes. They're too complicated to
be honest with you, but no is the only way
to go.

Speaker 3 (01:46:07):
All right there, I see you. Oh my word, thermal
thermal and thermal. Okay, what's Mark doing here? He's ready?

Speaker 2 (01:46:16):
Are you ready? Let's see him up? Are you what's up?

Speaker 8 (01:46:20):
Mark?

Speaker 5 (01:46:22):
How are you, mister fight?

Speaker 3 (01:46:23):
I'm doing fine, man? How are you? More importantly, I'm well?
Have you been painted?

Speaker 8 (01:46:27):
Well?

Speaker 2 (01:46:29):
I sure have a right. Well, let's let my let's
let melbourn tee up his music so I can.

Speaker 3 (01:46:32):
Hear himself bragged about a little bit far away Melbourne.

Speaker 15 (01:46:38):
Damn.

Speaker 1 (01:46:44):
Now a taste of Melvin's jams and Jelly's on the
Dunk Bike Show, deliciously spread for you by Bross River Provisions,
locally made Gormet jams, jellies and sauces for all occasions.

Speaker 3 (01:47:01):
All right, do we have a drum roll yet? We've
talked about that Melvin? No, not yet.

Speaker 2 (01:47:07):
Well let's put that.

Speaker 3 (01:47:08):
Just jot a note down and we'll get that after
the show or something like that. All right, Mark, for
all the money in the well know, no money, uh,
but a nice little gift basket of Brasis River Provisions
Company jams, jellies and sauces.

Speaker 2 (01:47:23):
What is today's musical theme?

Speaker 8 (01:47:27):
Call me?

Speaker 19 (01:47:28):
Oh yeah, oh yeah? Even I figured backing out with
the last one. I was a couple of them. I
wasn't paying attention, and I was a little bit nervous early.
But that's exactly right, you have got you.

Speaker 11 (01:47:40):
But then when it was call me by my name,
that's when I was like, Okay, I know what this
has got to be it, it's.

Speaker 2 (01:47:45):
Got to be it.

Speaker 3 (01:47:46):
All right, Well, Melvin will tell you how to come
down here and pick up your prize. You're welcome to
do that anytime during normal business hours. It's pretty easy,
and they'll have that waiting for you right there in front. Man,
thank you very much for listening this morning. I appreciate it. No,
thank you, all right, I'm gonna put him on hold here. Yeah,
I need to call Mike actually and talk to him.

(01:48:07):
I think we may be kind of running low on
baskets again. It's been a while since we've talked. And yeah,
I think i'll do that. I may drive down there
this afternoon, even I don't know. That sounds like a
pretty good idea if I can make sure he's there.
Rosenberg not far from where I am in sugar Land.
It's a pretty easy place to find, and it can't
be so big that I can't find that.

Speaker 16 (01:48:26):
Well.

Speaker 3 (01:48:26):
I have I have GPS, just like Doc was saying
a minute ago. Uh, the cars, phones, cameras, everything has
a computer in it now. Everything has a computer in it.
Our phones are not phones, they're they're computers that happen
to have a device for two way communication.

Speaker 2 (01:48:47):
That's there is.

Speaker 3 (01:48:49):
I was fascinated a year or two ago when I
first read that the average cell phone now has more
computing power than was used to put men on the
moon back when that was first even dreamed of these
little phones of ours. It's into communication around the world,

(01:49:10):
and that's pretty impressive. You incorporate satellite technology, you incorporate
whatever's in those phone and those little chips. I read
a story yesterday about some megasuper incredible chip that is
going to.

Speaker 2 (01:49:25):
They say it's going.

Speaker 3 (01:49:26):
To make communication and data transfer faster by incredible multiples
than it is now, and it's pretty dog on fast.
Now that technology is over my head, I'm too old
to try to learn about it. I'll just I'll take
advantage of it when it becomes available, as long as

(01:49:47):
it's affordable, and if it's not affordable when it comes out,
I'll wait until it is.

Speaker 2 (01:49:52):
I've told you before, I've wasted Well.

Speaker 3 (01:49:54):
I didn't waste a lot of money, but I spent
a lot of money many years ago on one of
the first HD and because I spent the money on it.
Then it was quite expensive, and there were many less
expensive models available, but the guy in the store I
chose because it was a good store to buy this stuff.

(01:50:14):
The guy in the store assured me that this television
of mind that I was buying would last a long
time and would have as good a picture as most
any of them for many many years to come. And
it served me very well and continues to do so.
Now I'm ready for a bigger screen.

Speaker 2 (01:50:30):
Now. Mine is not tiny, but nor.

Speaker 3 (01:50:33):
Is it as large as I could get now for
about probably twenty percent of what I paid for this one.
And the quality of the pictures now will be that
much better. So I can watch people catch fish, watch
people watch people hunt deer, watch people hike in the mountains,

(01:50:53):
watch people hit golf balls and make holes in one
all of the things I like to watch on television.

Speaker 2 (01:51:00):
It may be time for not I think I may
t you up a new TV this year.

Speaker 3 (01:51:04):
All depends on how a couple of things pan out,
but I think they'll pan out well. Seven one three, two,
one two five seven ninety Email me Dougpike at iHeartMedia
dot com.

Speaker 2 (01:51:12):
We'll take the.

Speaker 3 (01:51:13):
Final break of the program right here on time, well almost.

Speaker 6 (01:51:18):
This is Sportstock seven ninety, Facebook dot Com, slash sports
Talk seven ninety.

Speaker 7 (01:51:24):
Back to the Doug Pipe shown.

Speaker 3 (01:51:27):
It is call me anytime it says there is that blondie?

Speaker 9 (01:51:31):
Is that right?

Speaker 2 (01:51:32):
Or Pat Benatar? Okay, I wish it was Pat Benatar.
She was hot. Had a crush on Pat Benatar when
I was young, me too, man oh Man, forrest, what's
up folk pro? Man?

Speaker 20 (01:51:48):
You got me visions of a black cat suit with
red with a red wrap. Auditor shook Pat Benatar fly,
I had a flashbag. I forgot all about fishing for
about twelve.

Speaker 2 (01:52:00):
I can twelve seconds a right, what's up? Man oh Man?

Speaker 20 (01:52:09):
Just enjoying these the last two uh, this first MLF
tournament of the year. Now I'm watching Bass Masters on
FS one on the Saint John Driver and glad to
see Bobby Lane won his without forward facing soular.

Speaker 2 (01:52:23):
In fact, the first two or three guys didn't even
turn it on.

Speaker 20 (01:52:25):
And really, now we got well, we've got old school
Bill Lowe down there in the Saint John Driver and
he's uh just flipping the jig and throwing a swim
jig and he's in.

Speaker 2 (01:52:35):
The lead as well, so we'll watching back of people
all you know, a whole lot about bass fishing.

Speaker 3 (01:52:42):
Okay, so is there a situation I'm thinking in, Well,
it doesn't really matter. Water clarity doesn't matter, because this
isn't looking at an image of a fish. It's looking
at a bounce back of a signal. But is there
any circumstance where you can think that that forward facing
sonar would be a disadvantage?

Speaker 9 (01:53:04):
Uh?

Speaker 20 (01:53:04):
Yeah, exactly where they're at in Florida because they're fishing
that shallow, heavy dense cover.

Speaker 2 (01:53:08):
Yeah. Yeah, there's no looking at Yeah.

Speaker 20 (01:53:11):
If you're looking in lily pads and high drill, you're
not really seeing nothing and you just a wall.

Speaker 8 (01:53:18):
Yeah.

Speaker 20 (01:53:18):
And that sonar is so much more high frequency than
our standard sodar that you're spooking fish, you know.

Speaker 2 (01:53:24):
When I'm when I'm fishing.

Speaker 20 (01:53:25):
You know, shallow water, like when we caught the sixty
two Basst Kerth, I never turned my electronics on all
day of any kind.

Speaker 2 (01:53:31):
Oh wow, I didn't realize that. So that'll spook them out.

Speaker 20 (01:53:34):
Huh oh yeah, I remember I was working as a
camera boat one of the the Bassmaster Classic years ago.

Speaker 2 (01:53:40):
On Lake Conrod.

Speaker 20 (01:53:41):
We pulled in where Edwin Ebers was and he asked,
everybody please turn off your electronics. Wow, do you ever
stick your head under the water on a calm day,
even just a regular standard Sorry, you could hear you
can hear?

Speaker 2 (01:53:53):
Oh wow?

Speaker 20 (01:53:54):
And I know if we could hear the bassroom feeling. Yeah,
I turned my electronic deep water don't matter.

Speaker 3 (01:53:58):
But yeah, did you hear did you hear that story
about that Toyota sherlunkerfish that was caught by the same
guy in the same place two years apart.

Speaker 2 (01:54:10):
Yeah, that's crazy.

Speaker 20 (01:54:11):
I mean, I know they're bigger fishing, more territorial, and
they will relocate sometimes, but.

Speaker 2 (01:54:15):
That would pretty pretty awesome sort of be that exact.

Speaker 3 (01:54:18):
You know, it was released three point three miles from there.

Speaker 2 (01:54:22):
That's what boggles my mind forrest.

Speaker 3 (01:54:24):
How that fish managed to get back there, no matter
how long it took.

Speaker 2 (01:54:28):
Yeah, that's crazy.

Speaker 20 (01:54:29):
Unless it was more of a you know, I don't
know how that lake lays out. It was it more
of an open place where he just followed the creek
shout and all of a sudden he got back to
this pierced Oh yeah, that's.

Speaker 2 (01:54:38):
Where I lived. It's hard to say. You know, it
looks like I'm home exactly.

Speaker 20 (01:54:44):
But now with this weather today, man, I got, I got.
I didn't realize how many rods I kept in my boat,
but I put all my rods out of my boat.

Speaker 2 (01:54:52):
So this weekend is going to be reschool weekend.

Speaker 20 (01:54:54):
And I got twenty four rods laying out, so it
might be enough.

Speaker 2 (01:54:58):
Lord, come on, man, But you know, as a bass fisherman,
i'm OCD.

Speaker 20 (01:55:04):
So I got a pencil and paper at work and
I wrote down every bait that I want a town
of rod. Oh, Lord, I got to twenty two two,
so I have two spurs, you know, so if you
show up, I can you commcrate me.

Speaker 2 (01:55:20):
But wondered about a remedial lure for me? Is that
what you're thinking?

Speaker 11 (01:55:25):
Uh?

Speaker 2 (01:55:25):
You know, I'm gonna give you something at worth some
D team they don't.

Speaker 20 (01:55:29):
But I was just wondering you as a bass fishman,
you I got twenty four rods in the boat, twenty
two lower specific rods. What about saltwater fishmen? I mean,
I know they're just not tying on a bill sinker
or the hook and looking for a piece of dead bait.
But as far as a serious saltwater fishermen, how many
rods are they taking out there?

Speaker 3 (01:55:46):
They're probably gonna be wade fishing, and they're carrying one.

Speaker 2 (01:55:50):
They've got one, they've got.

Speaker 3 (01:55:51):
One in their hands, and they got one as a
backup in the boat.

Speaker 2 (01:55:55):
Maybe two.

Speaker 3 (01:55:56):
But I don't think those guys carrying near as many,
near as many, and we have we have just as
many lure choices. But for some reason, saltwater fishermen I
don't know. I don't know why. But even I mean
everybody's boats I've been on, they're not carrying a dozen

(01:56:18):
rods rigged and sitting on the deck.

Speaker 2 (01:56:21):
No, I would.

Speaker 20 (01:56:21):
I guess saltwater boats are built different too. Like my boat,
I could put fifty rods on my boat and you
never see them.

Speaker 3 (01:56:27):
Yeah, there's room a lot of saltwater boats for storage
like that. If you push came to shove then and
if there was a need for it, they would certainly
incorporate it into building those boats. You've got a top
you know, you've got a top half and a bottom half,
and there's a lot of air in between, So there
would be no reason they couldn't do it. But I
just don't know of anybody who carries that much gear

(01:56:49):
on board. Typically you've got stand up rod holders on
both sides of the center console, and you might be
able to put six down each side. But it's rare
that all the rod holders are full unless there are
four people on the boat or more.

Speaker 2 (01:57:06):
Actually, yeah, that's interesting. Yeah, I gotta you guys out
of your minds Oh, I know it. That's like I
was trying to explain to Edgie.

Speaker 20 (01:57:16):
You know, so I'm three, I'm throwing a top water
bait and I have a bas blow up and miss it. Well,
I can reel down, pick up a rod with a
sink on on it, throw it right back in that
same Yeah, probably that fish may not hit that topwater
baity again. So but you know, but but it's all specific.
You know what lake you go to. I'll take out
five or six rods for a specific lake. I'm not
taking all twenty four rods and put them on the

(01:57:36):
deck of the boat.

Speaker 3 (01:57:37):
Well good, Yeah, I wouldn't want to dance around on
that boat in rough water with all those trouble hooks
sitting there.

Speaker 20 (01:57:45):
Oh shooting, And I got to date this Friday with
last year, I thought of Lake Nacinich up there, just
other side of this side of Acadocia's I lost what
I'm pretty sure as a share of lunkers.

Speaker 2 (01:57:56):
I got a date with her, so we'll see how
that goes.

Speaker 3 (01:57:59):
All right, Well, you go to the prom and go
get your date, pick her up and send her off
to send her off to the Fishery Center, and I'm
gonna get out of here. Time's up, believe it or not.
Melvin's all right, folk, bro, It's great to hear from you, man, man,
I'll see you all right. We'll be back here tomorrow eight.
I hope you can make it. I'll be here eight

(01:58:21):
to ten tomorrow and then back on Tuesday for fifty
plus live over on kPr C at noon.

Speaker 2 (01:58:26):
Get outside.

Speaker 3 (01:58:27):
It's gonna be a little yucky today, but not as
bad as everybody thought. Don't believe all those four casts.
Just stick your head out the door. If it's not raining,
go do something fun. See you tomorrow, everybody, get your
family out there with you.

Speaker 2 (01:58:38):
Stay safe. Please.

Speaker 3 (01:58:39):
I want to hear back from all of you again
tomorrow and more. Bring some friends. That's it for now.

Speaker 2 (01:58:44):
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