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Speaker 1 (00:00):
Now here's Doug Bike. All right, Sunday edition of the
program starts now. Thank you all for joining us, whoever
you are, wherever you are, uh seven seven ninety, email
me Dougpike at iHeartMedia dot com. Let's talk to Brandon
shall we want to sap Brandon.

Speaker 2 (00:17):
Good morning, mister broy carry good man.

Speaker 3 (00:20):
I'm fine.

Speaker 1 (00:20):
I got to go make a pot of coffee at
first break though there's none in there.

Speaker 2 (00:23):
Now, I understand. I gotta get me some eye opener
too here in a minute, Yes, sir, yes, sir. No,
I wanted to touch on a base. Uh you know,
and I don't want This has to do with outdoors,
and it also has to do with political We want
to keep the state of Texas the way it is.
Let's just look at New York. Let's just look at

(00:45):
New York, and it's an example. Everybody in Texas says, well,
it's not going to happen here. If you don't step
up to the plate and swing the bat and boat,
then it's possible that that can happen. And then there's
a lot of people in the United States would like
to see the state of Texas fall. We are God

(01:07):
has had our sovereign hand on us, even from the Alamo.
If we don't fight, then we're gonna lose. And that's
the only thing I can say. We have great resources.
I mean, we have been greatly blessed, and there's a
lot of people that died for this state.

Speaker 1 (01:23):
And one thing I want to say, Okay, thank you,
I appreciate that. One thing I will say to kind
of tie some of this together is that I've I've
interacted with a lot of people who are.

Speaker 3 (01:36):
Not who don't think the same way I do.

Speaker 1 (01:38):
I have and politically I'm talking about and almost each
of them. I rarely run into somebody who says I'm
on the left and.

Speaker 3 (01:49):
I love the outdoors. I don't. I just don't hear that.
I don't hear that from that.

Speaker 1 (01:55):
Side, and I don't see that side taking a stance
in favor of taking care of wildlife and fisheries.

Speaker 3 (02:02):
It hasn't been my experience. Now, if there's somebody.

Speaker 1 (02:05):
Out there who is as completely as left as left
can be and absolutely loves hunting and fishing and hiking
and birding and doing all that stuff, I'd love to
talk to them.

Speaker 3 (02:15):
Because we have common ground.

Speaker 1 (02:16):
We can start from to have a conversation, that would
be great, but I just don't seem to run into
those folks much. So, yeah, you're right, We've all got
to pay close attention to not just how somebody who's
running for office wants to run that office, but what
they think about the outdoors, what they think about our fisheries,

(02:37):
and what they think about our wildlife, whether that matters
to them, because if they're not outdoors people, and this
is what's happened in a lot of the North now. Granted,
there are tons of deer hunters all the way up
through Canada, there are tons of bird hunters, there's tons
of fishermen. They're all up there, but they're becoming outnumbered.

(02:58):
And where they become out numbered, the resource is available
to people who take care of fisheries and who take
care of wildlife kind of diminish because those people aren't
buying hunting and fishing licenses. They don't have a direct
stake in the game, so they don't really care whether
a warehouse gets built on a place that wants used

(03:19):
to be a great waterfowl roost. They don't care that
a subdivision goes up where you and your uncle used
to hunt deer when you were a kid. It just
doesn't matter to them. And that's that's a frightening thing.
That's how we're going to lose wildlife and fisheries as
much as anything else.

Speaker 2 (03:37):
Well, not only that, I mean, we just need to
start raising a generation where it's not it's just hard
to explain, but I mean it's I just don't want
things to wind up. There's a sleeping giant out there,
and there's a lot of people that would love to
see the state of Texas fall. Of course we are,
we are, and if we don't it's outdoors men Texas

(03:58):
ranchers know when you're born in the country that I mean,
there's certain morals and values that go with all that. Sure,
and if we don't stand up for it, we're gonna lose. Well.

Speaker 1 (04:10):
The key component to being brought up what you and
I would call right is just is being respectful of
other people. It's being mindful that the world is not
revolving around you, that you are part of something. You're
a tiny little cog in a big, big wheel. And
that's what people who raise their kids in the outdoors.

(04:31):
There's been signed. There is a lot of science on
this and I studied it for a while and read
a lot of a lot of papers.

Speaker 3 (04:39):
And whatnot on it.

Speaker 1 (04:40):
Kids who get brought up in the outdoors tend to
be better grounded, they tend to be more successful in life.
They actually score higher on standardized tests than kids who
don't grow up in the outdoors. And that's reason enough
right there, their educations, because if they're not gonna be
smart enough to run the world, they're not going to

(05:02):
be able to run.

Speaker 2 (05:02):
The world, no, sir, And I mean I totally agree.
I don't. I have no shame about where I was
born and raising house treated. I mean, it just made
me and the man I am today. And that's the
way we got to treat this. We need to raise
men to be men. That's yeah.

Speaker 1 (05:19):
Think back to when you were growing up, and how
many times, probably if you were like me and my
little running buddies on the little street in Sharptown where
I grew up, how many times did somebody else's mother
get on you and your whole bunch of buddies for
doing something wrong and just really chew you out until
you understood that.

Speaker 3 (05:38):
That doesn't happen anymore.

Speaker 1 (05:40):
You know, everybody's scared to correct anybody else's child in
a store or anywhere else, and that's correct.

Speaker 2 (05:47):
Yeah, and put their put their put their backsides on
the front end of a church view.

Speaker 1 (05:54):
Yeah all right, Brandon, Well hang in there. I think
we're gonna make it, man, I really do. I'm I'm
being very encouraging stuff. And as soon as I've gotten
something really concrete that I that I can back up
what I believe I'm seeing happening with kids in the outdoors,
I'll I'll let I'll share it with everybody, But until
I can really verify it, I don't want to say anything.

(06:15):
All right, appreciate it, yes, sir, Yeah, he's he's climbed
up on top of a big old soap box that
I hear more and more people talking about. And the
good news is that more and more people are talking
about it. There was quite a time in this country
where it was very hard to share your views about

(06:35):
what we think is right and what we think is wrong,
as as opposed to what other people might feel the
same way about. Uh, because we were scared to open
our mouths. And I'm I'm not so scared anymore.

Speaker 3 (06:47):
I'm really not.

Speaker 1 (06:48):
I was for a time, boy, I better think about this,
and I'm I'm not trying to offend anybody, Like I said,
I if there's someone out there who I don't care
who you vote for, as long as you vote, I
really really don't. Now, if you're voting for somebody that
I don't like, and you'll listen to me for one minute.

Speaker 3 (07:08):
I'll tell you why I think that other person's better.

Speaker 1 (07:11):
And if you want to take that same minute to
explain to me why you like the person you're voting for,
I'll listen to you.

Speaker 3 (07:16):
I really will.

Speaker 1 (07:17):
I'll listen patiently and intently because you may know something
I don't know. That's how I feel about that. It's
not who you vote for that matters as long as
you vote, because then we have representation of everybody.

Speaker 3 (07:30):
But if you sit back on the.

Speaker 1 (07:32):
Fence and just say I'm not even gonna bother vote
and it doesn't matter, well then you get what you get.

Speaker 3 (07:38):
So just keep an eye on everything.

Speaker 1 (07:41):
I really do think I think things generally are going
in a better direction, especially for the outdoors. That's what
I'm focused on right now, not everything else in the world,
but for the United States and for Texas, especially outdoor traditions.

Speaker 3 (07:58):
Are making a come back.

Speaker 1 (08:01):
I strongly believe that, and a lot of it is
because there are so many people moving here who are
leaving where they came from because they do like the
shooting sports.

Speaker 3 (08:12):
They do like fishing, they do like.

Speaker 1 (08:14):
Hunting, they do like all the things in the outdoors
that in some states you're kind of frowned upon for
doing that. So and there are left leaning states that
have great hunting opportunity and they take advantage of it
that nobody I don't know anywhere really where politics has

(08:34):
gotten in the way of being outdoors directly. Now, there's
efforts being made, for example, the taking away of the
use of lead shot and lead bullets. Even in some
cases out in California that was a big deal for
a while you had to change over to copper. There
was something else they were trying to use to get

(08:58):
lead out of everything out there. They have some oddball
rules from time to time that kind of come and go.
They go through the court systems, and I don't know
what's in place out there right now.

Speaker 3 (09:09):
I really don't want to find out.

Speaker 1 (09:11):
I'm perfectly happy right here in the state of Texas,
where I can shoot my favorite gun. At my favorite
animal because I've got the license that lets me do that.
Or I can go to the coast and fish my
favorite spot and try to catch a big fish with.

Speaker 3 (09:25):
Whatever tackle I want to use.

Speaker 1 (09:27):
You know, it's really to the Parks and Wildlife Department's
credit that we have the opportunity that we do have,
because in the past twenty twenty five years, maybe a
lot of people have moved into this region who don't
have the same respect for our resources as we do
as Native Texans. And I've witnessed just blatant violations, and

(09:51):
I've called them in to Texas to the Operation Game
Thief Line more than once when I see stuff going
on that I know is wrong, and we've all got
to do that to keep it from happening. If you
see a bunch of people keeping undersized flounder right now,
every one of those flounder, they call it, whether it's
undersized or not, it's not supposed to be there. We
have a six month or a six week moratorium on

(10:15):
flounder retention. But I guarantee you there are still people
down there on that coast who when they catch a flounder,
they look both ways and throw it in the icebox
that we have to manage because there aren't enough wardens
to watch all that stuff. They need our help just
as much as we need their help. And I'll talk
about game. I talked about game wardens yesterday too. Oh

(10:35):
my gosh, look at how late I am, Frankie, I'm
so sorry. All right, let's take a break. I'll take
a deep breath. I'm gonna go make a pot of coffee,
and I'm going to be in much better shape when
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(10:56):
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(11:16):
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on spot saut seven ninety. We're going to ten this morning,
get a lot of stuff done, and all kinds of

(12:00):
new things coming into this world of ours, all over
this country of ours.

Speaker 3 (12:03):
A lot of change is going on, a lot of changes.

Speaker 1 (12:06):
Stay focused on the outdoors, stay focused on doing what
you love to do outdoors, and we'll all come out better.
I think for that. Let's go talk to David shall
we let me click that button. I got you, Hey, David,
what's up man?

Speaker 4 (12:20):
Yeah, Doug, I heard your comments earlier and I wanted
to give you some words of encouragement to hear. Based
on what I've seen teaching hunter education. I certified about
forty five people this fall, and what surprised me. And
I think I should preface this by saying, if you
think about when we first started hunting, Doug, there was
no internet, there was no inter you know, so, and

(12:42):
if you hunted, you probably did it because you knew
somebody who hunted.

Speaker 3 (12:46):
Absolutely. Oh, you almost had to know somebody.

Speaker 1 (12:48):
There was no place to start unless you had somebody
you could talk to about it.

Speaker 3 (12:52):
Yeah.

Speaker 4 (12:53):
Well, what I'm seeing in these hunter education classes, I
would say half of the people that I certified were
first time hunters. Many of them were kids, and some
of them were so young. I thought, man, that's kind
of young to get started. I mean talking about kids
maybe nine ten years old, but they had their parents
with him. They were and many of these were not.

(13:16):
They were minorities, some were Asian, and I have to
think that I think you've kind of touched on this before.
Parents are now wanting their kids to get outside more.
And I think these parents are also because of the
resources or what's available online. They're saying, yeah, let's try this.

(13:38):
I really want to get my kids outside and try this,
you know, because as you would, we know it can
provide a great source of nutrition. I think, and I
think I think that's what's happening is there's probably more
in the urban areas, but people are parents are saying

(14:01):
you hunting and fishing offers a great opportunity to get
my kids outside and to catch a fish or shoot
an animal and bring something home and put it on
the table. Ye imagine I really was encouraged by it.

Speaker 3 (14:15):
Yeah, I would imagine you were.

Speaker 1 (14:16):
And it just makes me all the more confident that
this is all going to turn around, because it doesn't
matter whether somebody's from the herbs or the verbs or whatever.
If if some somehow they have been I don't want
to say awakened, because it's always there. You just kind
of kind of go knock on the door and open it.
But if they've seen on social media somebody out hunting

(14:40):
or fishing and thought, you know, that guy's bringing home
about one hundred pounds of meat that in the grocery
store would cost me three hundred dollars or five hundred dollars.
And if I can just sign up for one of
these state park management hunts and go out and shoot
a dough or two. I can bring home a lot
of meat for the family. The kids can get out

(15:02):
and see all kinds of animals walking around in the woods,
and they can get involved in the outdoors, and one
thing will lead to another and hopefully where we're gonna
have another generation where there are at least as many,
if not more kids into the outdoors than not, because
we got to get them off the phones, We got
to get them off the video games, all of that stuff,

(15:23):
because that's just crushing them mentally and emotionally, and it
has no value really at all.

Speaker 4 (15:32):
Yeah, the price of beef, isn't that freeze out there?

Speaker 1 (15:35):
No kidding, amen to that. There are free hunts out there.
There really are. Almost all of the state parks have
because our state has so many deer.

Speaker 3 (15:44):
They're just they're kind of everywhere.

Speaker 1 (15:47):
And or you can use what faux Pro has been
using and and get one of those public lands permits
and then find yourself a place to go hunt deer
on public land, or ducks or go fish whatever. But
just get them outdoors and they'll they will like it.
I know they will.

Speaker 4 (16:04):
Yeah, thank you for taking my call.

Speaker 1 (16:06):
Thank you man appreciate David. I tend to get very
long winded. I get I get up on this soapbox, Frankie,
and I just can't get down, man, Because I would
conservatively say that in my adult life I've probably taught,
or not not necessarily taught, but I've probably enabled at
least one hundred kids and probably more. Really, but and

(16:32):
about that many adults, just grown up men and women.
I have helped them to catch their first fish. Now,
was their first fish, some sort of record breaker, no,
nothing significant other than it.

Speaker 3 (16:46):
Was their first fish.

Speaker 1 (16:47):
And I can't really tell you how many of them ever,
if ever, went back and went fishing again. Now I
have heard from a lot of them who did, They've
they've become.

Speaker 3 (16:57):
Involved in it.

Speaker 1 (16:58):
I had one guy jokingly get all upset with me
because he was now spending all this money I'd gotten
him into fly fishing, and he said, man, you told
me there was some inexpensive stuff. But as soon as
I started looking at that and the guy started telling
me what the difference was, I wound up spending like
a month's salary on fly fishing gear. Said, dude, that's

(17:21):
on you, that's not on me. I showed you how
to do it, and I told you you could. You
could go find used gear to get you started, that
wouldn't cost you much. But he he just bit it,
hook line and sinker. He is so hooked on fly
fishing to this day. I think that guy's probably out
there with the latest and the greatest, and the money

(17:41):
wasn't bothering him at all. He's got enough to take
care of anything and everything he's ever wanted in life.

Speaker 3 (17:47):
With that fly fishing thing.

Speaker 1 (17:48):
That's that's a different kind that's a new level of fishing,
and it's fantastic and I absolutely love it. I don't
go as much as I used to, honestly, and I wish.
I'm trying to find a way to make a little
bit more time to do all that. I truly am,
and I'm gonna I'm gonna do that starting in twenty
twenty six. This is my new quarter century we're coming
into and uh, I intend to use it to its fullest.

Speaker 3 (18:12):
Hey, Dave, what's up on.

Speaker 5 (18:14):
The on growing up with your parents and your grandfathers
and your ancestors.

Speaker 6 (18:20):
Man?

Speaker 5 (18:21):
You know, all me and all my brothers and everybody,
my nieces and nephew and everybody they've all ended up
having successful careers doing something, you know. And uh and
I think it's all in the in the heart you
know of you know, Hey, you're dedicated to do what
you're gonna do. Teach you how to do this and

(18:42):
stay true to what you need to do. Oh and
like I never was this cowt, but always be prepared
to meet the challenge.

Speaker 1 (18:49):
Yeah, you know, we all face challenges every day. We
just got to you got to rise up and take
care of business.

Speaker 5 (18:56):
I tell my wife, hold on, I got a method
to my madness over here. All right, Well, I mean
she want me to do this and everything else. And
I'm like, oh, okay, all right there. I appreciate you
right here.

Speaker 3 (19:11):
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Speaker 3 (20:34):
Oh lord, they may never sing this song.

Speaker 1 (20:37):
Ranky.

Speaker 3 (20:39):
I'm one long.

Speaker 1 (20:41):
Introductions, long, long, long, let's get going, welcome back. A
couple of phone calls, Well, I had two, then I
got one.

Speaker 3 (20:49):
Now it's faux pro, faux pro. What's up?

Speaker 2 (20:53):
What is up?

Speaker 7 (20:54):
Dog?

Speaker 8 (20:54):
Glass took a buddy out that I have a buddy
of mine that I worked at Academy back in my
late teens, dirty twenties, back when Academy actually still sold
army helmets, and that only cow And that's when I
met this feller.

Speaker 9 (21:09):
We have a dissian for several years. So he was mad,
I've been wanting to go to that games lake you
go through all the time, Okay, I said, because I
can beat you there at nine o'clock. I said, I'm
gonna get there at seven and try to figure try
to figure it out by nine o'clock, cause I'll go
picking up to the gate nine of Fox. We go
out there. Kind of had something figured out on the
fish shallow early. It was like the dead sea. The

(21:30):
grass is kind of died back, getting brown. So I
vacated the shallows and and went out and turned the
cheaterbox on, and uh turned the spotlight on and uh,
these fish, you know, your typical meadow bay jerk dirt
bake stuff like that, you follow, they rush it and
stopped rushing. Wow, couldn't figure it out. So we finally

(21:52):
went to a tiny crank bait that one of my
fosters based this and custom Bates had to say to Tony,
he Uh, I started throwing that little crank made out
it only died about three to four feet, and these
fish were coming up with fifteen feet like mythings and
just crushing wild.

Speaker 1 (22:06):
I need some That's what I'm looking for. Something that
will just go down like three or four feet.

Speaker 6 (22:11):
I got a.

Speaker 3 (22:14):
Yeah, I appreciate it.

Speaker 9 (22:16):
But uh, but he he's a power of fishing, a
whole lot of good fishing. He actually won the big
Bass Flash last year on the Raven broad dodged or
he one of the whole thing at eleven eleven plus
counter nice. But I told him, I said, on this lake,
the drop shot is keen and it's got to be
a morning glory color in the robo worm. Oh wow, man,

(22:39):
I don't even I don't even own that, but I
got one rigged up because I've never done it. So
I got it out there with the spot of the
fish of a few fish on the bottom of twenty
sixteen of water. And I showed him. I showed him
a line with my rocket the cast here a boat
and a half boat leaked out. So he made a
perfect cast. We watched the drop shot go down, go
down in a couple of fish fo now dressed the bottoms.

(23:01):
Just hold your line tight, don't move your weight. Just
typed up your lines and just shake it real shake
and uh about a two powder it over and grab it.
I said, down, set the hook, and he set the hook.

Speaker 7 (23:13):
He looked at me.

Speaker 9 (23:13):
He goes, this is blank. That's all it is, dude,
And he said. He went to do that for about
thirty forty five minutes. Great and he goes, he goes,
he goes, I gotta buy a center rod. Now, I say,
yess you do.

Speaker 3 (23:27):
Yeah, convert another.

Speaker 9 (23:29):
Convert another, another corruption. But we had a great time.
But on the uh uh on public hunting, just to
recap a little bit of that.

Speaker 5 (23:39):
Sure, make sure.

Speaker 9 (23:41):
If you're listeners or whoever goes out and buys this
public hunting permit, uh, download the app and you could
search by species. Oh well, it'll just show you the
places you can punt that what. I don't want people
to get into the idea because the place is me
and my neck. You's got it, like you said, had
the fishing on in the pond. Well, I know these

(24:02):
places are also gonna hold up. There's gonna be big deer.
But these places are very sic that you can only
shoot dogs, So make sure when you're on that property
what you can shoot. And they all have a big
bulletin board. You scan it with the scan code that
you're y you can out, it'll ask you what, you'll
walk you all through it automatically. But there's a bulletin
border and all these properties are pretty well tagged around

(24:24):
the border. So you get the border they'll be there'll
be a yellow sign tech.

Speaker 1 (24:30):
I like that idea of you know, just because just
because there are a big deer on a place doesn't
mean it might not be fun to go hunt ducks
on the place and just let the big deer come around,
take a picture of them and plant that in your
memory bank, and kill a few ducks and get out
of there. I just access to the land is is

(24:51):
that's the value right there is the access to all
this land. That in most states, especially up in the
mountains the western States, they have tons of public land
and we don't as based on our side, we don't
only what maybe five or six percent of our land

(25:13):
is public, but because we're so big, it is. You know,
there's millions of acres of public lands, some accessible, some not.
But if you take advantage like you and your nephew did,
and spend a little time scouting around and put the
effort into scouting exactly places where you can do what
you want to go do, it can probably be a

(25:35):
little more successful than a lot of people think. And
there's probably a couple of guys in this audience right
now scratching their heads going shut up, you know, quit
telling people how good this is, because then it's going
to get crowded.

Speaker 3 (25:47):
But it should be crowded.

Speaker 9 (25:49):
Yeah, okay, if you just take the west side of
Lake Livingston, yeah, all the way over through Lake Conro,
you have one hundred and forty six thousand acres of
the Sam Houston National Corps. Yeah, you could duck hunt,
deer hunt, haul punt, duve hunt, and you just got
to know what section to be. But all that's available

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in it, right here. You know, I'm you know, not
even an hour from Houston. You got one hundred and
twenty six thousand acre deer leaves least whatever it's.

Speaker 1 (26:18):
You know, it just takes It takes research, and it
takes work, and it takes boots on the ground to
get out there and get far enough off the beaten
path that you're not competing with thirty or forty guys
who just can't walk more than a quarter mile. Yeah,
get up in there and mix it up with nature,
and I guarantee you there's stuff.

Speaker 3 (26:37):
There's little ponds.

Speaker 1 (26:38):
When I got to make that ride in the Goodyear
blimp one hundred years ago, uh, when the Shell Houston
Open was coming to town at the Woodlands, That's how
long ago it was. I'm up in the air and
we're puttering around, like say, between the woodlands.

Speaker 3 (26:53):
We we went east for a way, as.

Speaker 1 (26:55):
I was the only guy who showed up for a
meteor ride in the blimp, and we spent about ten
minutes over the golf course. I took a few pictures.
I said, man, can we just kind of go somewhere else?
He goes, we can go wherever you want. We went,
you got an hour man, we can go wherever you want.
So well, let's go east. So we just go off
into nowhere basically, and I'm looking down on woods and

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there are so many ponds up in those woods forest.
I just, holy cow, where is all this water coming from?
So many places? I wanted to go. And I was learning,
you know, the different stuff that's on top of the water.
Some of the water looks really clear, some of it
looks bad. And but the bottom line was, there were
a million little stock tanks and part of that land.

Speaker 9 (27:38):
And you know, and and wrap it up, just you know,
and be safe. I got a buddy of mine lives
right on the across the street forth and he had
two bullet holes in his garage.

Speaker 4 (27:52):
Wow.

Speaker 9 (27:52):
Yeah, you gotta be careful being where where your home is.
Yeah yeah, yeah, no go sneaking through there too bad.
You know, you were walking through the forest, scout. You
want to be seen. Make a little noise like they
you know, let people know you there.

Speaker 3 (28:09):
Amen to that, my friend. Ors thanks man, always a.

Speaker 1 (28:12):
Pleasure, All right, man, audios, all right, thank you for ust.

Speaker 3 (28:19):
That's good stuff. Good up.

Speaker 8 (28:20):
Hey.

Speaker 1 (28:20):
He he scattered it out, he really did. He knows
what he's doing. Up in there, and that's something I
may tackle at some point. I might take a week
off and just go scout some public land just to
see what it's like and see what's out there. Really,
I got a hunch though, like I said a minute ago,
a lot of people are probably thinking, shut up, Doug,
because we we figured this out. We know how to

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go find the good parts of these places because we're
using Google Earth, We're using We're getting out and scouting
these places in advance. And ma'am, what how much fun
would that be? Realize you have access to close to
a million acres and they're not all going to be
super productive if you're not gonna limit out every time

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you go to one of these places.

Speaker 3 (29:05):
But most people don't.

Speaker 1 (29:07):
The average deer hunter doesn't limit out every time they
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turn out some of the best Mexican food you'll ever
put in your mouth. Outstanding fish tacos, outstanding seafood enchiladas.

Speaker 3 (29:31):
I love it all. At Berry Hill you will.

Speaker 1 (29:33):
Too, dining inside and out and a very family friendly,
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Speaker 3 (30:11):
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The store is all about the shooting, sports, about self defense,
about hunting, about competition.

Speaker 3 (30:31):
If you need it, they've got it.

Speaker 1 (30:33):
When it comes to the shooting sports and if you
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That's pretty cool. The Shooters Corner TX dot com. The
Shooters Corner TX dot com Sports Talk seven nine at
the Dougpike Show. Thank you for listening. Ah weighing in,

(30:54):
weighing in, weighing in. It was a good email here
from Mojo. Hang on, let me see if I can
scroll back up to it. There it is right there,
a very good point. Time spent outdoors requires common sense
and problem solving. Else you don't live very long out there. Yeah,

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that's very true. The more you get into the outdoors.

Speaker 3 (31:20):
For me, anyway, it was kind of addictive. It's almost
like a drug.

Speaker 1 (31:24):
You find yourself walking into the woods, or maybe you
just go to a state park and you walk down
some trails and you think, wow, that's really cool. But
I wonder what's over there because everybody's seeing what's along
this trail. Everybody knows. Everybody who's ever walked this trail
already knows it. But what if I get off the trail?
Can I do that in the park? Yeah, you can
probably do that in the park, or you can just

(31:45):
go to a bigger state park. Or a bigger wildlife
management area and just walk wherever you want. You have
access to a million acres of public ground in Texas,
more than a million acres, and the more you get
into the outdoors, the more enjoyable and exciting and challenging
it is to go a little farther and do a

(32:07):
little more. I've been walking on big ranches sometimes and
just told, okay, just as long as you keep walking
towards the sun where we're dropping you off, Just keep
walking toward the sun all day long, and you'll end
up back here at the camp house. Like, Yeah, it's
pretty scary. I'm not so sure I might make it.

(32:27):
What if I'm walking slowly or to get off course
a little bit. Now, It'll be fine, you'll be back.
And so far I've always made it back to where
I started. But it is it's a little bit intimidating too,
And you truly do realize when somebody drops you off
in the middle of nowhere that you're part of something

(32:49):
way bigger. I've never felt that feeling as much so
as when I did. I was doing a photo shoot
up in Colorado and I don't remember what resort we
were at, but I was going to get photographs of
these guys coming to skiers. There were about a half
a dozen skiers who were gonna be coming down a

(33:09):
mountain side that was probably a mile away from me,
maybe a little bit more, maybe a mile and a
half something like that. And I had the lenses and
cameras and everything I needed to get the shots, and
so I said, how are.

Speaker 3 (33:20):
We getting up there? Helicopter?

Speaker 1 (33:21):
I said, oh, that's very cool. I'm digging that. That's fine.
He said, what I'm gonna do is I'm gonna take
you up and i'm gonna drop you off, and then
i'm gonna come back and pick up the skiers and
you'll see this. We'll be back in about ten minutes
or so, and then you know, get ready because that's
when it's gonna happen. So we pull up to the
edge of the mountain and he says, hold on, I
gotta find you a spot to get out. And all

(33:43):
I can see is snow. That's all it is. And
in my head from down here, I'm thinking, okay, yeah,
I'll just step out and it'll be crunchy and then
I'll step on ground. He goes, I'm going to punch
a skid in a couple of times to make sure
that I put you out on a rock, because otherwise
this snow up here can be six, eight, ten feet deep,
Like ooh, I don't want to step into six six

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or eight or ten feet of powder. That's not safe, sounded.
So we finally find a place where he's comfortable putting
me out. And before he puts me out, he puts
this big device around my neck. I said, what's that transponder?
So so you can find me if I'm lost or
something like that and you have to rescue me. He goes, No,
it'll make it easier to find the body. Oh uh,

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that's comforting as well. So any event, I gathered my courage,
I got out of that helicopter. I'm standing on a
rock and I don't dare touch a foot in any
other direction because if I do, I might fall off
the mountain. And this guy flies up and back over
the top of that ridge, and it was toomb quiet,

(34:49):
no sound. I can't see anything, but I'm above the
tree line. At this point.

Speaker 3 (34:55):
It's just snow, me and snow.

Speaker 1 (34:58):
And to get back to a true if I needed
one for any reason at all, would have been virtually impossible.
They just probably a thousand vertical feet and no way
to get there. I have no idea what's under my
next step, and I just had to wait and trust
and wait and trust and wait and trust, and sure enough,

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over that valley drop the skiers off. They come firing down,
and I got some really cool pictures of these little
sque curves being made as they came down that untouched
mountain side. And and then of course he picks them
up first and takes them back. It calls me on
the radio. I had a radio, but I didn't use

(35:42):
it because I didn't want to use it. I wanted
to experience this. So he calls me on the radio,
I'm gonna drop these guys off first.

Speaker 3 (35:48):
I'm they're used to this. I'm not. What are my
chances I'll be back? And he picks up the skiers.

Speaker 1 (35:55):
They disappear again, and it was probably another because they
had to unload gear and stuff when they got back.
Probably another twenty minutes that I was absolutely alone on
the side of that mountain. And it really boy, you
talk about think about things, It'll make your mind wander
in all sorts of directions, mostly good in the end,

(36:16):
you've You've become a better person for this tiny.

Speaker 3 (36:20):
Little taste of solitude.

Speaker 1 (36:22):
Uh and and forced solitude. There was nothing I could
do about being alone on that mountaintop, not one single thing.
And in the end I came out very comforted by
it that I was able to just stand there and
not freak out. A lot of people might have, but
I'd been out there enough that I trusted. I knew
to trust the pilot, and that's kind of what got

(36:43):
me there. He's willing to drop me off and come
back and get me. I'm I'm willing to let him try.

Speaker 3 (36:48):
And he did so.

Speaker 1 (36:49):
Here I am seven one three two one two five
seven ninety email on me Doug Pike at iHeartMedia dot com.
Rudy and I exchange a couple of emails in which
he poses the thought that it's bullreds which have pretty
much taken up residency in the Galveson based system in
the past several years, thanks, I guess, in large part

(37:11):
to the hattery program that's been so successful.

Speaker 3 (37:13):
We're just we're just.

Speaker 1 (37:14):
Loaded up, absolutely loaded up with bullreds in our bay
systems up and down this state. And there's nothing wrong
with that. And if there's so much food. Rudy contends
and a couple of guides that it's the bullreds that
are responsible for eating up so many trout. But I'm
having a hard time with that because the bull reds

(37:37):
wouldn't be specific in the size of trout they ate
and so and if they did have the option, I
would imagine they would just plow through schools of smaller
trout easier to catch trout and in greater abundance trout
than the schools of the larger fish, which would probably

(37:58):
be a little more spread out and a little more
capable of eluding a predator. There's no doubt in my
mind that redfish are eating trout period. In the story,
they're eating trout. But to think that they're eating only
keepers and letting the little ones go, I can't rationalize that.

(38:18):
I can't put science to that and make it work.
It just I can't get there. And it's no knock
on Rudy in his his theory, and it's the same
thing James and Blaine have talked about that quite a bit.
All the redfish in that based system of ours up
here are clearly having impact. But the conversation I had

(38:39):
earlier with I can't remember who it was who called
talking about talking to that seafood place owner. It said,
the shrimpers are only having to make one drag to
get their limit every day. So it's not that we
don't have any shrimp in the bay. It's not that
we don't have any mullet in the bay. It's not
that we don't have any small trout and big trout

(39:02):
somewhere in that bay system.

Speaker 3 (39:04):
Those keepers are just there.

Speaker 1 (39:06):
They're m I A now, it's it's possible since we
did put the slot in that the pressure on those
slot fish.

Speaker 3 (39:17):
Because there are a lot of.

Speaker 1 (39:18):
Boats in the base, there's no question fewer and fewer,
it's quite possible that those keepers a lot there was.
There were still a lot of people catching and keeping
trout all through the spring and summer. Long after that
that limit went into effect. I made a trip down
to Galveston Bay. Actually didn't. I didn't throw any croker.
I think I may have throw thrown a croker once

(39:39):
on the boat. The other two guys were throwing crokers
and we caught our trout. They wanted to bring some home,
and that was fine with me. They stayed within the limit,
But I wonder if fishting pressure might have anything to
do with that, because when you pressure only one class
of fish in that fairly tight slot, it's probably going
to have an impact.

Speaker 3 (40:00):
And that's I'm spitballing here.

Speaker 1 (40:02):
I don't have anything to back that up, and I
don't think that the Parks and Widlife Department would have
set up that slot knowingly if there was any risk
to damaging that population. I don't know why these fourteen
and a half inch fish are dominating the size class

(40:24):
right now, but I suspect that their presence in a
year from now will only It can't do anything but
get better.

Speaker 3 (40:31):
Those fish.

Speaker 1 (40:31):
They're not going to shrink, and if there's food in
the bay form, they're not going to stay the same
size either. They've got to grow, and maybe maybe it'll
take a little bit longer to get that real abundance
of keeper sized fish. Maybe there was a glitch in
the number of keeper sized fish we had to start

(40:52):
the new limit. There's just a whole lot of questions
and not a lot of answers because it's only it's
been less than a year since we kicked this off.

Speaker 3 (41:01):
So let's just kind of adopt a wait and see, and.

Speaker 1 (41:05):
My gut says that we're going to see next summer
all these fourteen and a half are going to be
certainly longer and then keeper size, and that will take
pressure off a whole lot of this fishery. And I
want to go to South Texas this summer or this winter.

(41:26):
That's I got to put that on my list three
or four times to me even make it happen once
and find a way to change my schedule just a
teeny bit. I have a theory or a proposition I'm
going to pose to management here about something I might
be able to do to get a little bit more time.

Speaker 3 (41:44):
Now, here's Doug Fike Sports.

Speaker 1 (41:47):
Talk seven to ninety second in the final hour of
today's program starts.

Speaker 3 (41:50):
Now, and I'm going to lead it off with a call.

Speaker 1 (41:53):
To my good friend Tommy O'Brien out there at black
Hawk Country Club, who was honored by Golf Magazine and
it's in the magazine. We can really talk about it
now as a teacher to watch in this great country
of ours.

Speaker 3 (42:07):
How does that feel, Tommy?

Speaker 10 (42:10):
Uh, it's it's pretty unbelievable, you know, to get recognized
by a lot of your peers and this and that
just just speaks volumes, you know. I mean, it's just
humbling dog.

Speaker 6 (42:22):
Very believe to be on the left.

Speaker 3 (42:24):
You know how long you've worked for this. I can
believe it.

Speaker 1 (42:27):
Problem believe in it at all. I'll do I'll believe
it twice so you don't have to.

Speaker 10 (42:31):
Yeah, I'm trying to believe you being on top of
the mountain by yourself.

Speaker 2 (42:35):
Did I hear that correctly?

Speaker 1 (42:36):
Oh?

Speaker 7 (42:36):
Man?

Speaker 3 (42:36):
It was so fine. Dropped off of a helicopter, you know, and.

Speaker 1 (42:42):
He had to punch a skin in twice to find
a rock to drop me off on. And I was
standing in waist deep snow. Yeah, so that was that
was pretty sporty.

Speaker 3 (42:52):
Couldn't move.

Speaker 1 (42:53):
That's okay, let's talk about.

Speaker 6 (42:56):
Yeah, there's no excuse on number two.

Speaker 10 (42:58):
Then you should not hear that hole anymore.

Speaker 3 (42:59):
If you can do that, that's a good point. I'm
just kind of air out and go for it.

Speaker 1 (43:05):
So where to talk about the earliest part of your
golf instruction? Not your little kids swinging a plastic club,
But when did you first feel like, you know, I
want to teach this game?

Speaker 10 (43:18):
Honestly, in college when I was a walk on over
at Sam Houston State. My teammates were very good and
they would beat my brains out when they were playing
golf together, but for some reason they would ask me
for help because they knew I was a student of
the game and I enjoyed that and whatnot. And one
of my teammates, Brandon Turner, would work with me a

(43:38):
little bit and Brent Kischnick and Brandon and Brandt both
won Division one events and they said that I helped them,
and I don't know how much I believe that or not,
but definitely made suggestions and I think it helped them.
As a kid growing up, I grew up watching Jim
Murphy teach at my home clubs and country club and

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he always looked like he was just having a great
time teaching, talking golf and literally, as he says, making
people stay.

Speaker 6 (44:06):
And that's just kind of the direction I went.

Speaker 10 (44:09):
I didn't have the greatest of playing careers, but I
did seem to connect to good players on the teaching level,
and that's just kind of where it where it went.
And it's just been kind of a divine experience ever since.
With who the Good Lord is put in front of me,
teacher was uh to to experience and to learn from.

(44:29):
And that's that's the big key with with teaching is
you know, having good people, good good guys. There's no
way more than you saying, hey, come out and watch,
and come out and learn and ask questions and and
so on and so forth. I started out working for
Jim Murphy and the golf visits, and he wouldn't let
me teach for six months because you got to watch
me for six months that you put out a good product,

(44:51):
because you once you're once you're out and you've done
something bad, then the words.

Speaker 3 (44:55):
Out on you.

Speaker 7 (44:55):
There.

Speaker 6 (44:56):
Yeah, that's a good point, kind of in a nutshell
how it started.

Speaker 2 (44:59):
Now.

Speaker 3 (45:00):
Teachers don't stay teachers very long, do they.

Speaker 6 (45:03):
They don't.

Speaker 11 (45:04):
Yeah, the dogs at Chase Cars and pros and Chase cars,
none of them last very long.

Speaker 6 (45:11):
Would say, oh my word.

Speaker 1 (45:14):
You know, something struck me when I when I saw
the what you sent me this morning where it says,
uh it says golf teachers to watch twenty six and
twenty you know, twenty twenty six, twenty twenty seven, And
I think that maybe you should make a suggestion next
time they run a chart like that.

Speaker 3 (45:30):
Up put it headed golf teachers to hire.

Speaker 1 (45:35):
Maybe you know, it's just a thought, just the thought.
You don't want them staying at the other end of
the range watching you call.

Speaker 6 (45:43):
Me up exactly, Holy cow, that's correct. Correct.

Speaker 1 (45:48):
What would you do You even have one piece of
information that anybody gave you that really resonates and is
still just stuck in your brain all the way today.

Speaker 6 (46:00):
Well, the huge thing with teaching is the correct diagnosis.

Speaker 10 (46:03):
I mean, Doug, there's so many theories and thoughts and
things to do, and I you know, I was I
was blessed.

Speaker 6 (46:10):
To be around.

Speaker 10 (46:12):
Jim Murphy and Jim Party who showed me how to
properly diagnose a swing. They seem to have their own
theories and their ways of thinking on how to swing
a club. But impact is kind of indisputable. So if
I'm helping you, or helping anyone else in the world,
I feel like I've got a really good shot of
really helping.

Speaker 6 (46:29):
Them, because, you know, let's say they went to the.

Speaker 10 (46:32):
Doctor and they have a bum right elbow. You know,
if I'm sitting there looking at their left knee, the
whole lesson, I'm off.

Speaker 6 (46:39):
You know, I want to be able to help someone,
help them quickly.

Speaker 10 (46:42):
And what's key to that is to have the right diagnosis,
whether it's with your health or with your golf health.

Speaker 6 (46:48):
So at any rate, it's huge to have that. You
can argue.

Speaker 10 (46:53):
Theory and whatnot all day, but you can't argue what's
wrong with someone's golf swing from an impact perspective. It's
just it's just what's wrong. You know, if you have
the flu, you got the flu, you know, so you
need to take a tamil flu there. So that's been
the huge thing for me over the years is really
getting a good grasp of diagnosing and then understanding what

(47:14):
elements that I show people, how it applies to that
to that problem. You know, does it make it worse?

Speaker 7 (47:20):
Is it make it better?

Speaker 2 (47:21):
Right there?

Speaker 6 (47:21):
And there's a specific way to kind of do that.

Speaker 1 (47:23):
It's reverse engineering, really, isn't it. You have you already
know the goal, you already know where the finish line is.
You just have to figure out how to get them there.

Speaker 3 (47:32):
That makes sense.

Speaker 6 (47:33):
Well, you're you're a detective.

Speaker 10 (47:34):
Absolutely, You're going back from the ball flight from the
ground and then you look at the golf swing and
and you kind of figure out where to apply a
small change to create a different impact and go from there.

Speaker 6 (47:48):
It's it's it's an amazing process.

Speaker 10 (47:51):
I've been blessed to learn from from a World Golf
Hall of Famer.

Speaker 6 (47:54):
It's an amazing process.

Speaker 1 (47:55):
What's interesting is how casually you talk about it and
how hell comfortable you are with talking about golf when
a lot of the people who are are listening now
are thinking, yeah, but I don't know how I have
to how do I do that? And the way you
get better I'll patch you guys collectively as instructors on
the back. The way you get better at golf is

(48:17):
learning from somebody who understands the game and can actually
teach the game and not go into your your scram
or not you were scrambled, but your little golf buddy
on Saturday morning who's an eighteen handicap and you're asking
him about how to hit flop shots.

Speaker 3 (48:34):
That's just it's not going to pay off, is.

Speaker 6 (48:38):
Exactly. And I feel so sorry.

Speaker 10 (48:40):
In our industry today and our business, they'll put assistant
golf pro listings and tell them they'll make five or
ten extra thousand dollars teaching in a year, and I'm like,
if they're not, if they don't have any proper training.
That's not going to happen, and so you have to
have someone who's willing to mentor. And that's a lost art.
Unfortunately in the PGA of America for the most part,

(49:02):
is that a lot of corporate is taken over and
pro's times are just taken away from playing the game
and teaching the game. And so these young kids that
want to be golf pros and PGA pros.

Speaker 6 (49:13):
End up quitting because they can't make enough to take
care of themselves, you know.

Speaker 10 (49:16):
And again that's that's where I was blessed, was that
I had people that were very willing to mentor and share.
I mean, I'm wasn't I see chat Cook to help
myself and to learn from him. He's eighty plus years old,
still learning and still willing to help other people, and
I just that's how I want to be.

Speaker 1 (49:32):
He's like me, I'm not eighty yet. I'm not eighty yet, Tommy,
but I'm still learning. Man, I'm trying. I'm trying a
squeeze another five yards out of that driver, get those
chip shots a little bit closer.

Speaker 3 (49:46):
I might be somebody someday.

Speaker 6 (49:49):
You're well, no, you're learn you give himself credit. If
you just stay back, that's all you got to dough.
Just stay back.

Speaker 1 (49:53):
Yeah, yeah, And honestly, that one little thing every time,
you know, here's here. I don't know whether you intended
to plant this seat my head, but it's planted in
my head.

Speaker 3 (50:01):
Okay.

Speaker 1 (50:02):
You you got on me so hard about staying back,
staying back until impact, stay back to impact. And you
showed me on video and you showed me when I
freeze frame after a swing and whatnot that I was
pushing my whole body forward through the ball. So now,
no matter where the ball, if it doesn't go exactly
where I want it to go, all I tell myself
is stay back. I'm not linking, I'm not thinking about

(50:24):
anything else.

Speaker 3 (50:25):
Stay back. And it works.

Speaker 11 (50:27):
Well, and it does for you because the key to
hitting it really solid is to keep your arc the
same for the most part. When you narrow the arc,
that's when people really start to miss hit. I mean,
they might not hit it, you know awful, you know,
direction wise, but they'll miss it.

Speaker 6 (50:42):
And that's what most people do. So that's something I
mean to know if someone's doing that or not so solid.

Speaker 10 (50:49):
With compression, that's the goal what every lasting Doug is
solid with compression and that could be straight, that could
be a five yard draw, that could be a five
yard fage. The key is solid with compression for me
every single lesson, and luckily I've been shown.

Speaker 6 (51:04):
That by some really cool instructors.

Speaker 4 (51:06):
Over the years.

Speaker 6 (51:07):
How to really emphasize that as.

Speaker 1 (51:09):
A reminder before we run out of time here, you
can you can teach anybody out there at black Hawk.

Speaker 3 (51:14):
They don't have to be members to take lessons. Correct.

Speaker 6 (51:17):
I'm blessed they let me teach anyone as.

Speaker 10 (51:19):
Long as they follow the code, the dress code out here, Yes, please, absolutely,
that's it.

Speaker 7 (51:25):
Yeah, tucked in shirt, collar shirt, no dim.

Speaker 3 (51:27):
There you go.

Speaker 6 (51:28):
We're good to go on that up.

Speaker 3 (51:30):
Let's get how do they find you, Tommy?

Speaker 10 (51:34):
They can find me on my website at Tommy o
goolf dot com.

Speaker 6 (51:38):
My phone numbers on there as well. Just shoot a
text go from there. I'm also on Instagram.

Speaker 10 (51:43):
At at Tommy O Golf, So if you want to
kind of see what I'm about and go from there,
you can.

Speaker 6 (51:48):
You can do that absolutely, all right.

Speaker 1 (51:49):
Partner, have a good day out there, Thanks Tommy, yesterirright, Yes,
what a great guy. I've known him since he was
in his twenties, literally, and he's not anymore, that's for you.
And I've seen him teaching at a lot of different
places around town, and every place he's been he's done
a good job. I'm sure they've they've kept him as

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long as as a better offer didn't come along. And
I'm comfortable saying that he's comfortable where he is right now.
And I see him out there giving lessons in one
of the things that I admire, and I'm sure it's
something that most great golf teachers do, but Jim Murphy
was one of the first to kind of show me

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or use this technique on me. All of these guys
are capable. They'll dig into your like you, what else
do you do for fun? What do you do you
like to fish, you like to hunt? Do you like
to go bowling?

Speaker 3 (52:44):
What?

Speaker 1 (52:45):
What else do you do physically in your life other
than golf? And once they find out what you really
like and what you can really relate to other than
trying to swing a golf club, which none of us
wake up born and start swinging in clubs, they help
transmit the information they're trying to get into your head.

(53:06):
By using some sort of analogy that brings in that.
I've heard Tommy talk to me a lot about different things,
like in fishing and in baseball. There were baseball issues
in my swing for for a long long time. Same
with my sons, and he used analogies that incorporated baseball
to tell us what we needed to hear. Same thing

(53:29):
with someone who likes something else. I've heard him out
there talking about any and every other sport you can imagine,
and relating it then to that person's golf swing so
that they can understand better how he wants them to
swing the club. And in the end, it's kind of
just like he said, impact is impact.

Speaker 3 (53:47):
It's got to be right.

Speaker 1 (53:49):
And all he's trying to do is tell you and
me and everybody else who's getting a lesson from him.
All the great instructors do this. This is why he's
on that list of teachers to watch. They can make
it personal for you, and that's man, you'll like golf
a lot more. I know I do. He's helped me
with a couple of things over the years. You'll see

(54:10):
me struggling and chopping up golf balls out there and
walk down to how's it going Doug like, uh oh
uh oh, he saw me, he saw me hit that
last one. Oh boy, I'm in trouble, And I say, yeah,
I didn't stay back on that one.

Speaker 3 (54:22):
He yep.

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seven to ninety The Dugpike Show. Thank you for listening. Certainly,
do appreciate it. If it's super dry and super quiet,
you might step on a twig and get a little
snap sound, or the crunching of dry leaves under your feet,
things like that. But when you get to a place
where you're you know, you're deep into the woods, and

(55:49):
you can just pause or maybe even sit down. I
used to carry just a little like a little dove
stool or a little folding dove stools over my shoulder,
and if I'd got it at all tired walking through
the woods, I would just sit down. I did a
lot of still hunting that way.

Speaker 3 (56:06):
I would.

Speaker 1 (56:07):
I would walk maybe one hundred yards very quietly, and
then sit for ten or fifteen minutes and see if
anything happened by then get up and walk a little
bit more and sit down again. And just when you're
sitting in the woods and just you have nothing better
to do than just look around and listen and breathe

(56:29):
and inhale the air. It really is for me anyway,
it's pretty pretty moving. It makes me feel alive, it
makes me feel aware, and it kind of removes me from.

Speaker 3 (56:43):
All the garbage that happens up here in the cities.

Speaker 1 (56:47):
I was just talking to Erica back in the KTRH
newsroom about some stories that are hot right now, and
I don't want to think about that when I'm in
the woods. I want to go ahead and check out
that part of my world and check into the part
that's calm and serene. And now on the flip side

(57:09):
of that, there nature is. Nature is pretty cruel.

Speaker 3 (57:12):
Now.

Speaker 1 (57:12):
Every animal has to eat, and for them to eat,
something has to die, and that happens out there. They're
small predators and big predators, and they're all watching out
for each other, just the same as happens in water,
where I wrote probably thirty years ago. Now that the
only two fish, every other fish among the quadrillions of
quadrillions of fish and the sea careabouts the one in

(57:34):
front of it and the one behind it. The one
in front of it is lunch. The one behind it
wants to make that fish lunch. So it's a really
it's a fantastic, beautiful system that's been going on for
billions of years. It's pretty fascinating. I love fogg pictures.
I've got a picture. I may dig it out. I
think it's in the I know it's in my photo

(57:56):
files at the house, my old I'm talking about old
print files from newspaper days.

Speaker 3 (58:02):
I say it is. It's certainly in there somewhere.

Speaker 1 (58:05):
A picture I took once we were my a friend
of mine and I were on our way to go
fish up at Fayette County Reservoir and it was that
ground fog that's so typical in that part of the
state in the cooler months. And we came across a
field where the hay had been bailed into big rounds
and they were partially obscured.

Speaker 3 (58:28):
By the fog.

Speaker 1 (58:30):
And I told the guy, slam on the brakes right now.
I got to get out and take a picture of this.
And it just it really caught my mind. I stayed
out of that truck of his for probably ten minutes,
trying to get just the right light angle and the
right the right exposure and all of that, and just
hoping I was getting it right, making sure the lens
didn't fog up, because it was kind of foggy after all,

(58:52):
and I got I got one I liked pretty much.
It ended up winning an award for just a scenic photograph.
I don't recall whether it won for color or black
and white, but anyway, it was. It's a nice shot.
If I can find it, I'll put it up on
my Facebook page.

Speaker 5 (59:07):
Yeah.

Speaker 3 (59:08):
I might share a few of.

Speaker 1 (59:09):
Those, because back in the day we didn't have instant
gratification on cameras. We just had to keep shooting film
and hope for the best and then take it all
back and process it and look at a contact sheet
and just cross your fingers.

Speaker 9 (59:22):
Uh.

Speaker 1 (59:23):
It worked out well, though I might I might post
some of my better photographs. Be fun, be fun for me,
and I hope enjoyable for you guys too. I'm getting
furniture clearance outlet emails now. I'm not interested. Right now,
that's done.

Speaker 3 (59:40):
That's done.

Speaker 1 (59:40):
To check that box, check that box. I'm all good
with emails. Yeah, I'm not sure. Just talk about Trout
and Redfish kind of got me thinking more about the
the bigger picture really, as we're looking at specifics within
a system that really needs to be watched closely over

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the coming years. With more people moving here, more people
who are going to discover just how good our fishing
is compared to wherever they came from. And that's that's
not brag, that's just that's not Texas Bravada.

Speaker 3 (01:00:21):
That's just fact.

Speaker 1 (01:00:22):
I'd been very fortunate and gotten to fish in a
lot of places around this country, all the way up
the entire East Coast.

Speaker 3 (01:00:33):
Almost not know.

Speaker 1 (01:00:35):
A couple of states have tiny little shorelines that I
didn't get to fish, but I fished all the way
up to Maine with very few exceptions, and all the
way I fished the West Coast, I fished many even
other countries a lot of them.

Speaker 7 (01:00:51):
And.

Speaker 1 (01:00:53):
Inshore, offshore, fresh water, salt water, Texas probably has as
good or better fishing than anywhere else for anything else.
The one thing I would love to see more here
that we don't have yet is snook. They're very well established,
and weren't for a while, but over the past twenty
years the numbers of snook down there in South Texas

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have increased dramatically. Where you can, if you want to,
you can absolutely go down there and tell a fishing
guide I want to fish exclusively for snook, and you're
gonna catch some. There's almost no Brownsville ship channel loaded.
It's not like you get one every cast, but you
will catch some. Our offshore fishing is excellent now. Granted,

(01:01:38):
up here on the upper Coast it's a longer boat
ride to the bill fishing grounds, much longer boat ride
because you got to get in significantly deeper water. But
South Texas it's just right around the corner practically as
bill fishing trips go. And once you get there, our
catch rates are as good or better than most places anywhere.

Speaker 3 (01:02:00):
They really are.

Speaker 1 (01:02:01):
It's it's just the ride and the expense of going
all the way out there. Good Heavens, when you've got
these big giant boats with twin giant diesels turning thirty
plus knots, they're.

Speaker 3 (01:02:17):
Gonna suck out some fuel.

Speaker 1 (01:02:19):
These guys routinely, they just keep getting bigger and bigger
gas tanks on those things because they've got longer and
longer to get farther and farther to go to get
to where they want to fish. But once you get
out there, it's it's pretty spectacular. Inshore fishing outstanding are
bay fishing, even even right now with with all the

(01:02:41):
little bitty trout in the in the Galveston Bay Complex
and a lack of keepers. There are a lot of
places I've been where if you could go out and
catch five trout of any size in the day, it.

Speaker 3 (01:02:53):
Would be a pretty good day. They don't know.

Speaker 1 (01:02:56):
The East Coast has has some decent fishery. Florida's fine,
Florida's great. I love Florida, I do, but I couldn't.
I couldn't give up Texas hunting opportunity just for Florida's snook.
And I still want to go catch one of those
clown knife fish that I've only heard of.

Speaker 3 (01:03:17):
I've never actually seen one.

Speaker 1 (01:03:18):
There're pictures of them all over the internet and they're
really really cool looking, and they're all over South Florida.

Speaker 3 (01:03:23):
Apparently.

Speaker 1 (01:03:24):
I talked to Mark Nichols from DA Lewis probably two
years ago when he was in town for one of
our fishing shows, which is upcoming by the way, and
about month and a half, no two months in any event,
I talked to him and said, hey, man, I'd like
to pop down there and take a swing at one
of those clown knife fish. When when's the best time

(01:03:44):
to come down for that? He said, whenever you can
book a flight, we can go catch one of those
things just in a snap of a finger.

Speaker 3 (01:03:52):
I like that idea. I want to see one of those.

Speaker 1 (01:03:55):
I still haven't caught a peacock bass in my life.
I never made any trips to Central America or to
South America to do that.

Speaker 3 (01:04:04):
I made one trip to South.

Speaker 1 (01:04:05):
America and that was for hunting more than fishing, and
I haven't gotten to do that yet. But I'd like
to catch them, just to see if they're all that
they're billed to be. Other than that, I'm really comfortable
with my options in the state of Texas, and I'm
comfortable in the price of a license to go chase
everything I like to chase, especially since I hit seniority.

(01:04:27):
The price, it's a handy discount you get when you
earn the stripes I've got on my birthday card. It's
really it was really a nice change of pace from
having to pay the full freight. But even if you
take that standard combo full combo super combo license and

(01:04:48):
amortize that against the and weigh it against the opportunity
you get for having that license, it's a tremendously affordable
thing to have.

Speaker 3 (01:04:58):
In your pocket.

Speaker 1 (01:05:00):
Don't leave home without it either, kind of like the
old American Express card commercials. There are, just like in
any other profession, there are people who are cut and
dry by any law enforcement.

Speaker 3 (01:05:12):
Especially.

Speaker 1 (01:05:13):
Some people will give you a break if you're honest
and you confess your sin and you just say I
didn't know and have a legitimate kind of reason for
not knowing or not understanding. Maybe it's your first time,
maybe the person sold you the wrong license with the
wrong attachments on. It has happened to that buddy of mine,

(01:05:34):
whatever it is. Though, when you're told that there's been
an infraction, you have to understand that all these infractions
are on you and not on the game warden, and
it's up to the warden to make the decision whether
or not to write you a citation or a warning
or just warn you verbally. So you're at their mercy,

(01:05:58):
and some are going to be more than others.

Speaker 2 (01:06:01):
They have.

Speaker 3 (01:06:05):
Within their boundaries.

Speaker 1 (01:06:07):
They can either write you or not write you, depending
on how the experience goes and depending on how tight
they are with the way they enforce the law. So
if you messed up, you messed up. That being said, though,
a lot of game wardens. I've talked to a lot
of the older ones. Anyway, do try to find a

(01:06:27):
way to teach the personal lesson without having to rip
into their wallet too deeply. Some some people cop attitudes.
It's kind of like they do with police officers and
sheriff's deputies and constables and all of these other people
that literally are putting their lives on the line every
time they go to work. I just can't see doing that.

(01:06:48):
If I mess up, Hey, I messed up. Can we
talk about it? And if that person, that person wearing
the badge says no, I'll say, okay, okay. If they
say why did this happen, I'll give them an honest answer.
And believe me, if you're trying to cook something up
real fast, when you see the lights come on or

(01:07:08):
when you see the game warden walking into your spread,
don't don't try to fool them with something you can
make up in your head, because they've probably heard whatever
you can think up. They probably heard it at least
three or four times. And if it's just too simple,
they've probably heard it one hundred times. If they've been
on duty for a long time, they're out there working
for us you got to remember that, and there are

(01:07:30):
rules and we have to follow.

Speaker 3 (01:07:32):
I don't have a problem with that.

Speaker 1 (01:07:33):
If I if I mess up somewhere down the line,
and I deserve a ticket, and I'll take my ticket
and get on down the road. Seven one three two
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Speaker 3 (01:07:51):
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all kinds of stuff today, haven't we. Fricky Holy cav,
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Speaker 3 (01:08:44):
That's okay, it's all good. What it is?

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Speaker 3 (01:08:51):
Let's go talk to Rick Bis. What is uh?

Speaker 5 (01:08:53):
Rick?

Speaker 7 (01:08:55):
Good morning morning. I'll left about three forty five this morning,
and I'm on my way home and I'm watching this weather.
I thought, you know what, it's gonna get cold sooner
or later, and when it happens, firewood prices are gonna double. Yeah,

(01:09:16):
they are, and I guarantee you. And you know, I'm
of course, i'm kind of out in the country on
the highway, but I'm seeing people, you know, got firewood
for sale here there, So I thought, you know what,
I'm gonna stop and get me some firewood. Just I
got some company coming in. I got a host and uh,
I got wood at the ranches. But I don't want
to have to go get it, split it because it's
just had to cut off the roads too lazy. So

(01:09:41):
I'm thought, I'm gonna buy me some firewoods. Anyway, I
pulled over and I run into two things keep picking
up that firewood. One copperheads, Oh yeah, and a and
a scorpions, And uh, just a good reminder with the
season coming up. Copperheads love firewood, nice and cozy at

(01:10:03):
your dear knees and stuff and fire pit. I know
it's been kind of not really induced it to fire pits,
but uh, around the ranch house or even in your
back door where you live, they like I mean, they
just they just like firewood.

Speaker 6 (01:10:18):
It's just a matter of time.

Speaker 3 (01:10:19):
Sure.

Speaker 7 (01:10:20):
And uh, I finally, you know, stopped and found the
guy that had I could tell about looking at it.

Speaker 6 (01:10:26):
He had way too.

Speaker 7 (01:10:27):
Much, he had two or three years worth. And thought,
this guy's got him go and get rid of some firewoods.
And sure enough, and then, of course, you know me,
I spent an hour talking to him, but uh, he's
a he's just an old rancher guy. We can we
kind of hit it off a little bit, but anyway,
watch the snakes, guys, be careful.

Speaker 3 (01:10:48):
Thank you.

Speaker 1 (01:10:49):
Rick I'll see yeah, man, audios, good point copperhead. And
if you're just looking at a bunch of firewood, you
may or may not be looking at the copperhead and
not even know. I'm still still I got one more
since one more since the furniture clearance outlet email, and
that's from faux Pro and he found a video of

(01:11:10):
I'm gonna look at this. Afterward, he found a video
of a buck fight in the water. I'm gonna pull
it up here, and I want to see something real quick.

Speaker 5 (01:11:20):
Thing.

Speaker 1 (01:11:21):
Come on, Oh lordy, I'll have to wait till I
get back over to my main place where I can
see this thing. It's asking me to do a bunch
of stuff I don't want to have to do. Back
to where I was kind of headed a little while
ago on overall conservation of our fisheries around here in Texas,
freshwater and salt water.

Speaker 3 (01:11:42):
There are a lot of organizations.

Speaker 1 (01:11:44):
Out there, and uh, the one that I'm most familiar
with and have followed throughout its its tenure around here
is CCA. And there are others, of course, and some
people like them better than others and whatever.

Speaker 3 (01:11:59):
But the b line is.

Speaker 1 (01:12:02):
Every one of us who truly appreciates these resources of
ours needs to be affiliated at least somehow with at
least one organization that genuinely cares about our fish and
wildlife in this state.

Speaker 3 (01:12:17):
I don't care which one.

Speaker 1 (01:12:19):
Like I said, I know the most about and understand
best Cca, because I actually edited Tied magazine for ten
years and I learned about the inside, what goes on
on the inside of that office building over there, and
not just what they do outside. When the Star Tournament
comes to mind, and both Michael Berry and I will

(01:12:41):
be talking next year fairly shortly end of the year
actually about that tournament and all it's going to offer
to everybody.

Speaker 3 (01:12:49):
That's a fantastic tool that they have to get new members.

Speaker 1 (01:12:54):
And the bonus is that by becoming a member, if
you catch the right fish, you're gonna win a big
old prize. I think I want to say they gave
away nearly two million dollars worth of stuff last year.
I believe that's the number. I may be a little off,
but the prize value of all of what they do
in that Star Tournament is fantastic, and what they've done

(01:13:15):
for these Resources of Ours is fantastic as well. I
want to say it was last year, maybe the year
before last, possibly when they speaking of redfish in the
bays eating trout. Maybe the billionth the one billionth red
fish fingerling was released. Now, clearly all of those fish

(01:13:36):
don't survive. As soon as those fish hit the water,
and a seagull or a pelican or any other water
bird down on the coast that eat fish flies over,
they're going to start getting hammered. But enough of them
make it to the point that we've pretty much recovered

(01:13:56):
the redfish population that had been through the seventies at
least more like the eighties, I guess in early nineties,
nearly depleted by commercial harvest. That species was on the
brink of extinction, potentially just going away forever if nothing

(01:14:17):
had been done, especially in Texas, we were really down
to our last few redfish. And all of that work
for thirty forty fifty years now, whatever it's been, it's
paid off in phase. Obviously, when when there's talk of
how the red fish are eating up all the speckled trout,
how the redfish.

Speaker 3 (01:14:34):
In Louisiana, the.

Speaker 1 (01:14:37):
Case that was being made against redfish for the longest
time was how they were eating up all the crabs,
and that didn't turn out to be the case either.
There's nature will find a balance somehow, it will, and
we just have to do our part to give nature
the chance to do that.

Speaker 3 (01:14:56):
Whether we need to.

Speaker 1 (01:14:58):
Take a hard look at how much development we're doing
along bay shores, whether it means we have to take
a hard look at what's being dumped into our bays dredging.

Speaker 3 (01:15:08):
There's nothing we can do about the Houston ship Channel.

Speaker 1 (01:15:10):
That's one of the biggest ports in the world, and
we're gonna have to keep that shipping lane open from
the gallast and jetties up to the Houston Docks. Nothing
we can do about that, but we still can, in
smaller ways, make sure that that water stays clean as possible,

(01:15:31):
that we mitigate any damage that's going on. If there's
a spill somewhere, whether it's chemical or oil or whatever,
we take care of that as fast as we can,
and just do our best on the fresh water side too.
I'm gonna I'm gonna keep watching these fishing shows and
try to count how many times the fish are just

(01:15:53):
horribly mishandled and hooks are ripped out of their mouths,
and it just it really disturbs me that I'm working
so hard with barbless hooks and trying to get everybody
else on board with it.

Speaker 3 (01:16:06):
Honestly, if you'll.

Speaker 1 (01:16:06):
Try it for six, eight weeks, ten weeks, or let's
call it ten fishing trips, make sure that every barb
every hook you throw out into the water is barbleous.
And I'm fairly confident that you won't notice any difference
in your catch ratio if you're able to keep tight
line and if you're able to kind of learn after

(01:16:26):
one or two little slip offs how to manage the
rod tip to keep that line tight when the fish
is jumping around in the air.

Speaker 3 (01:16:35):
You're not going to lose that many fish. It's not
going to bother you.

Speaker 1 (01:16:38):
I promise you it won't, and it'll save you some trouble.
I had that problem about what was it two three
weeks ago now, where crank bait came out of a
fish's mouth, not that far off the rod tip, but
far enough to have enough line for it to just
one of the hooks on the back of the crank
bait just absolutely buried itself in between much rise up

(01:17:00):
in my bicep, pardon me, on my left arm. That's
I crank right handed, like most people do.

Speaker 3 (01:17:06):
I crank with my right hand.

Speaker 1 (01:17:08):
And I looked down and I thought, okay, it's now
or never did I? Did I get it right by
telling people that barbarous hooks will save them a trip
to the the urgent care clinic?

Speaker 3 (01:17:21):
Or did I not?

Speaker 1 (01:17:22):
And I reached down and I pushed that. I picked
that little hook up and I pushed it backwards and
it slid out of there like a like a toothpick
coming out of a well.

Speaker 3 (01:17:34):
My mule.

Speaker 1 (01:17:35):
My muscles are bigger than putting down Sports Talk seven
ninety wrapping it up. Look at it the beach cams
this morning. By the way, I was kind of reminded
of how we get a lot of low water days
this time of year. And that's fine if you're wade fishing,

(01:17:56):
or you're fishing off a jetty or something like that,
it really doesn't matter. But if you're running boats in
the bays this time of year, you better kind of
keep an eye open because a lot of these places
where you've run without issue at all for many, many years.

Speaker 3 (01:18:10):
Suddenly when they lose a foot of.

Speaker 1 (01:18:12):
Water and you're not paying attention, there's a lot of
stuff on the bottom of that bay that's just high
enough to snap either dig a hole in a hole
or snap a lower unit off or whatever.

Speaker 3 (01:18:26):
And boy, if you're out somewhere.

Speaker 1 (01:18:29):
Where there's not a whole lot of people, because that's
where most of us like to fish anyway, if we
can find such a place as if something like that existed,
really maybe your cell signals not all that good.

Speaker 3 (01:18:40):
You could be stuck. Awhile this is not a bad
time of year.

Speaker 1 (01:18:43):
If you're going to keep fishing, to go ahead and
pack some sort of cool weather emergency kit. And I'm
talking about protein bars, a couple of gallons of water,
maybe even a blanket, and something to start a fire.
It's rare that something like that happens, but it does happen.
Guarantee of baff and Bay on the bottom. If they
drained baff and Bay, they'd probably find a thousand lower

(01:19:04):
units out there, and any one of those things on
the right day, well, it would take it would take
a significant drop to expose not only the rocks but
the lower units. But nonetheless, you kind of get what
I'm talking about. It's it's just something you need to
be taken care of.

Speaker 3 (01:19:21):
And keeping an eye out for the new.

Speaker 1 (01:19:24):
Parks and Waldlife Department rainbow truck. Rainbow trout stocking schedule
is coming out soon, it's said on the website. I
was kind of looking at that this morning, said on
the website. Coming in November. Well, Parks and Wildlife Department,
show me those trout. I want to know where they're
gonna because I'm gonna make a few trips this year.
I didn't go after them once last year. Not one

(01:19:46):
time did I go after those little rainbow trout. And
I'm gonna do it this year. And I might try
to dig up a handful of little kids to go
with me, because I'll bait up a spot. I'll use
whatever it takes to get them some bites. And there's
a real good chance we could catch some rainbow trout
that are they're really good kid size fish.

Speaker 3 (01:20:05):
They're not gonna be any record breakers.

Speaker 1 (01:20:07):
Every now and then you'll see a golden one swimming
in the schools in lakes where the water's really clear.
But most of these lakes it's just it's a put
and take fishery. The Parks and Walleafe Department puts those
fish in there. You get to keep if they didn't
change anything. Five a day, and that doesn't mean for
a lot of these old guys who take advantage, that
doesn't mean catch five, put them in your car and

(01:20:28):
then go back and catch five more. Just get your
five for the day and get out of the way
and let some kids catch the Okay.

Speaker 3 (01:20:35):
I like that. They're fun.

Speaker 1 (01:20:36):
Joe Doggett and I used to chase them all the time.
We threw lures exclusively when it was just he and
I going. And I'm hoping that they put that big,
big lake over at tom Oh, what is it, tom
Bass Park?

Speaker 3 (01:20:49):
The big lake over there.

Speaker 1 (01:20:50):
They once at one time were putting four thousand of
those fish in their year, and it was really fun
because you could catch them all over that big lake
and they would eat little and it was great. I
hope it's that good again this year. The funny thing
that now, I'll hold these till next week. I got
some more for you that we talked about yesterday. Right now,
I'll just tell you thank you for listening.

Speaker 3 (01:21:11):
I'll be back. I'll talk to you soon. Don't worry.

Speaker 1 (01:21:14):
Thanks for listening. Seriously, have fun, stay outside and have
fun with your family safely. Audios
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