National Hunting and Fishing Day Today!

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Speaker 1 (00:00):
All right, here we go. Saturday morning starts right now,
and it is a It's going to be pretty much
a carbon coffee of yesterday. If you liked yesterday, you're
probably gonna love today. And if you love today, you're
probably just going to be giddy with excitement for the
next four or five days because it's gonna be a
teensy bit cooler, and it's gonna be a teensy bit dryer,

(00:24):
and it's actually going to feel good when you walk
outside for the first time in the day. No matter
when you walk out there, we have had. We have
endured quite the summer so far. Now it hasn't been
as warm or hot as summer's past, but nonetheless, we've

(00:45):
made it through so far, and I think we've done
a darn good job. The East Coast not quite so fortunate.
They're not out of the woods just yet. What is
this little thing doing? Potential Tropical cyclone nine, that's the
one that is threatening at least the East Coast, And
I'm actually gonna go I want to run down to

(01:08):
I didn't mean to do this so early in the morning,
but I'm gonna run down to my little source that
I trust the most for these forecasts of tropical weather.
Let's just see what they show. Yeah, they show this one,
that one that's just north of Cuba right now, kind
of just creeping right up the Florida coast and then
headed very much for go Lee. It looks like it

(01:32):
they want it to turn right back out to sea.
Once it gets about to the Carolina is probably pushed
by this front that we've got right now. Once it
moves farther east, hopefully it'll steer that thing offshore. But
it looks like it's gonna get pretty dog gone close
before it does that. So fingers crossed everybody over there.

(01:54):
There's gonna be some hurricane forest stuff in it. And man,
oh man, here we go again. The big one, the
one that what is it called Gabriel Gabriel I think
or Gabrielle.

Speaker 2 (02:06):
Uh.

Speaker 1 (02:07):
It's farther a sea in the Atlantic Ocean and not
gonna bother anybody but people who are trying to move
goods and whatnot between here and Europe by ship. That
one's gonna be is predicted to get pretty dog on big.
The other one not quite so big. It'll it'll hang
down around a Cat one Cat two.

Speaker 2 (02:29):
Uh.

Speaker 1 (02:29):
The worst I see, Yeah, the worst I see on
that one's gonna be cat too, and it may just
kind of linger and hang around as a tropical storm.
It's gonna become something pretty soon, and we'll we'll keep
an eye on that. I've got a niece whose family
lives in Charleston, so I keep close watch on things
that are going up the East Coast, as I did
when I was a little kid, even we didn't have

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any near the sophistication we have now, But as a
little kid, I would watch storms over on the East
Coast because my grandparents live just north of Fort Lauderdale
in pomp and O, b Each and they those houses
down there built for it. They they just buckle up.
They've got storm shutters, they've got all that stuff, and
they're good to go for the most part until you

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get way into the middle of Florida. Then there's some
stuff that is built more like traditional homes we have
here long the coast, so they're buttoned up pretty good.
I don't know that I would want to change the
styles of our homes, and being fifty miles inland about
more or less where I am, it gives the storm
a little time to get beat up by everything it's

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trying to blow down, and usually it's not terrible. But
anybody who's lived here long enough like I have, knows
that some hurricanes are worse than others. And I've been
through pretty much all of them that hit this coast
in the last bazillion years. It seems like I wasn't
around for the one at the turn of the twentieth century.
I wasn't around for that one down in Galveston, but

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a lot of them. I've made my first Carla, and
then it went on from there. Man, Am I offe
off track?

Speaker 3 (04:05):
Here?

Speaker 1 (04:05):
Back to the back to the news of the day.
We are down to a day and a half of
teal season, and I from what I've heard and from
what I've seen, it's been good overall. I don't know
how else to call it, because I didn't get a
chance to go teal hunting once, and I'm not happy
about that, not at all happy about that. But I

(04:28):
live sometimes through you guys, because I'm in here doing
these radio shows six days a week, and not that
I mind. I enjoy doing this. I love hearing your
stories just as much as I hope you enjoy some
of mine. So if you've got if you had experience
this teal season, you want to share it and let
us know how it went for you. I would be

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happy to hear from you. Seven one three two one
two five seven ninety Email me Dougpike at iHeartMedia dot com.
I will get to the Ryder Cup. I'm watching it now.
Frankie came in and put it on the on the monitor,
a big, big screen monitor here in the studio, and
I'll update you as we go on that. There's no
change in the scores from yesterday. It ended up pretty

(05:12):
We're down three points. Let me get to TikTok, TikTok.
There's what I'm looking for. It is five and a half.
The Europeans got five and a half points yesterday we
only managed to get two and a half. The boys
have dug themselves a bit of a hole, really to
be down by three. I think it would have been
certainly better to be a little closer. It's certainly it's

(05:34):
not an insurmountable hill to climb, but it still is
going to be. It's gonna be hard to come back
from that, It really really is. It's gonna be very
hard to come back from that. Uh, let me check
email very quickly and then I'll move on to something else.
And like I said, I've got some interviews coming up.
I've got one for sure. I'm gonna talk to Tommy

(05:55):
O'Brien about just some of what we're seeing, the way
these players are swinging the club from an inspector or
an instructor's point of view, how he feels like everybody's playing,
whether he sees anything different than anybody swings, and we'll
get through that. And then Art Strickland, my buddy, who

(06:15):
he just he seems to be everywhere covering golf. He
waits until this morning, at about six forty five to
let me know. He just sends me a text message,
hold on, I'll read it verbatim to you. This is
Art Strickland in a nutshell. Where to go, dude, Doug

(06:36):
at the Ryder Cup this weekend. If you want a
live report, period, That's all he gave me, just by
the way. I'm there, if you want to talk, And
I said, like yeah, And so now I'm waiting to
hear back from him. I'm gonna try to get him
on around nine thirty and if I'll do it at
eight thirty if he has to get on get on

(06:56):
out there and get to work. But anyway, I'll try
to get a live report from the grounds. Could probably
also do that with Chris Hodge if he's up and
moving over there, although this is a busy morning for him.
Oh man, I got so much going on here, Holy cow.
We've still got doves to hunt, by the way, So
if you're wondering about what else you can do now

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that teal season is about to wrap up, and let
me get for the bird hunters. The quail season starts
November one. We've got a little ways to wait for that.
We've got Oh he can go squirrel hunting if you want. Nope,
not until October one. I take that back. We've got that.
There's a youth only East Texas squirrel season. Holy cow,

(07:38):
I didn't remember that youth only East Texas squirrel season
September twenty sixth through twenty eight. And then it gets
to some of the I want to talk to somebody
this morning who has actually hunted gallinules and actually hunted
Chacha Loacus. I want to know where you did it.

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I want to know how you did it, and I
want to know how the hunting is for gallinules and
chacha locas in Texas. It's got to be good because
it's Texas after all. But I'm just not I'm not
horribly familiar, let's just put it that way. Art Strickland
finally checked back in. He said, just call any time,
so I might move him up to about eight thirty.

(08:23):
I'll double check with him on a break when we
get to one and just see if I can bounce
him up a little higher in the pecking order so
that I don't have to rush Tommy when I get
him on. Lots going on in this world. By the way,
speaking of golf, I tried to get an interview today
with a woman, well, a girl, a little girl I

(08:43):
mentioned a couple of weeks ago here. Her name is
Lola Sin and Lola is good. She plays well, She's
she just this tiny little thing and swings the club. Well,
this is really hard to admit, Frankie for a grown
man like me, but she could probably beat me playing

(09:06):
from the appropriate teas. She could probably beat me three
rounds out of five. She's that good. And I'm not
horrible at golf. I mean I can hold my own
I carry a decent handicap. It's not great, but it's decent,
and I can hold my own with the old guys
I play with. But Lola I ran into her and

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her parents about three weeks ago, I guess it was,
and I want to try to interview her and talk
about junior golf and how it is from her from
the perspective of a junior. I don't want to hear
the parents' opinions of it. I want to hear her
opinion of it, and how competitive it is, how she prepares,
how important practice is, all of those things to her,

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because I feel like I'm looking at somebody who could
have at least a future as a college golfer and
possibly a little bit more based on just the four
holes we played together out there at black Hawk a
while back. She hit a shot on seventeen seventeen, a
very difficult part three, very long shot over water, and

(10:15):
she actually hit kind of a flubby little hybrid or
five iron maybe or something or five woods, something like that,
and her dad said, hit another ball, but hit six iron.
I think you got plenty to get there with six iron,
and she hit the most beautiful high draw Roy McElroy
high draw six iron I think I've ever seen I

(10:35):
don't know that I've ever hit one that good, landed
at about ten feet from the pen. H hum yawned.
Didn't make the putt, but that's okay. I don't make
all mine either, I do. I see tremendous potential, just
like her parents do. She's off somewhere. I got an
email or a text message back from her dad. Hold

(10:56):
on where she's playing in a qualifier for entry into
a NOTABA gay tournament that goes on. I want to
say in about in November somewhere. I'm gonna follow her
career through her parents. I'll just send them an occasional email.
How she doing, because I think she's gonna do very well. Oh,

(11:18):
there it is.

Speaker 4 (11:18):
Uh.

Speaker 1 (11:19):
They're in Lexington, North Carolina right now, nine thirty nine
tea time, so in an hour, she's probably at the
course right now. I'm sure got everybody out and up
and ready to go. Seven one three two one two
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Club dot com. All right, welcome back seven to seventeen
on Sports Talk seven to ninety The Dougpike Show. Thank
you for listening. I want to get Art Strickland on
the phone pretty quick. I think I'm gonna go ahead
and bump him up to this hour if we can
get him on. I'm waiting to confirm when he's ready
like I told Frankie, he's he's a he's kind of

(12:50):
all over the place up there, I'm sure, and he
might be just starting his day now. I doubt that, though.
He's probably been on the golf course at the at
the facility there for at lead an hour hour and
a half, and I'm just trying to confirm that he's
good to take a call going back to kind of
right here. What we've got going on around here. Like
I said, last day of teal season is tomorrow. So

(13:12):
if you're gonna get in another lick on those birds,
you either got to go. If you're yeah, you might
be finished. If you've already if you've already finished your
teal hunt for this morning and you're headed back home
or whatever, give me a call, tell me how it's been.
Art said, fine, So go ahead and ring him up
with you, Frankie, IM, go ahead and talk to him
and see what's going on up there. See what happened yesterday.

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That's what I want to know. Speaking of yesterday, Forrest
Foux pro calls yesterday around eleven to tell me that
he wasn't gonna say and well, he finally did tell
me where he went. But I don't want to. I
don't want to jinx it and mess it up for
him and draw a crowd, which would actually be for
Is that him? Okay, let's see him up. You got

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to click him over for me. Tick talk, Oh he's yeah,
click him on, come on, Frankie, cut him leogs. There
we go. I can't get him from there. There we go.
Finally we got you. R. What's going on?

Speaker 2 (14:14):
Man?

Speaker 5 (14:16):
Oh busday morning at the Rider Cup eighty morning, but
glad to hop on for a couple of minutes.

Speaker 6 (14:21):
Oh yeah, you can do to get a reverse hole?

Speaker 1 (14:24):
Ye number one? So what happened? What happened yesterday? What? What?
Where did the wheels fall off? Because none of those
matches we lost even got to the sixteenth t.

Speaker 5 (14:35):
Yeah, I just your world number one player goes oh
and two, your tur fireplug Brighton goes oh and two.
I mean you're just not gonna win like that. No,
I mean you're just not.

Speaker 6 (14:50):
You know, And I just think that you've got to
you gotta play better. But you know, for.

Speaker 5 (14:55):
Scottie Scheffer, who is as hot as anybody on the
planet and only won two years ago, for him to
do zip on, Zip's shocking.

Speaker 6 (15:05):
No, one way to put that.

Speaker 1 (15:08):
Can you do you have to only blame him? Did
he not get any help or what? Did he just
play that porter?

Speaker 5 (15:15):
Yeah, Russell Henry did not help him at all, which
face that Russell Henry was an anchor or dragged him down.
So you know, I just you picked guys on the team,
you think they're gonna be good putters, and then they
don't putt. And that's why everything which young team, That's
why uh, Sam Burns on the team, That's why Russell

(15:37):
Henley's on the team, because they're renowned as good putters.

Speaker 6 (15:41):
But or it was ugly yesterday.

Speaker 5 (15:43):
I gotta say I've seen that before. I mean, this
seems like most Riper Cups.

Speaker 6 (15:48):
I've seen, they make putt.

Speaker 5 (15:51):
Then even yesterday afternoon, Scottie Scheffer rolled into twenty footer
by far as long as part of the week, Yes
you have, and then John Raum uh slams in a
twenty foot right.

Speaker 6 (16:04):
On top of him, so even part on top of us.

Speaker 1 (16:09):
Yeah, you just can't ever, you can never let your
foot off the gas in this tournament, in this competition,
can you.

Speaker 4 (16:16):
No, you can't.

Speaker 6 (16:16):
And you know this is a veteran team.

Speaker 5 (16:19):
I Rory felt like they had the experience and uh
in you know, uh big game action, and certainly that's
been the case. I mean they have just been uh nails.
I mean Rum is quite great. Tell me, Fleetwood obviously
played great. Uh you know, uh, Rory plays great all

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the time, which Rory is what I thought Scotty would be. Like,
felt like Scotty would rise to the occasion, and he
has not. It's no other way to put it.

Speaker 1 (16:49):
Yeah, he's gonna have to turn himself around whatever it
takes to to be to be that guy for this
team and inspire them. And if he wasn't playing and
wasn't making punch yesterday, that's hardly inspirational. When you look
up on the leaderboard in your match is kind of
going to to the drain and Shuffler's even worse than you.
That's not good.

Speaker 5 (17:11):
Well, and you know, I thought it was very interesting.
Is I've been on a lot of shows late week.
I'm sure Scotty's been on incredible run. They said, what
does this seem like Tiger? WHI like to you, Well,
if anybody cares to look at Tiger's right cup.

Speaker 6 (17:26):
Record, it's really bad.

Speaker 1 (17:28):
Yeah.

Speaker 5 (17:28):
So yeah, this that seemed Tiger whit to me, because
Tiger didn't do anything of the Ryder Cup and so
far Rory hadn't done anything of the Right Cup either.

Speaker 1 (17:37):
Yeah, that's exactly right. I can't remember who it was,
but somebody about a week ago was talking about that
on on the PGA Tour Network about how the Ryder
Cup guys from Europe grow up playing match play. And
if you ask, if you ask Tiger or anybody on
our side, how is your how is your play in

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the Right Cup? He this guy said, all they would
say something like, oh it was about fifty something like that.
But if you ask one of the guys from the
European side, they can tell you exactly what their scores were,
exactly what their record was in every Ryder Cup. They
participated in no doubt about it.

Speaker 5 (18:20):
And if you want to your second guess, which is
what we do is media, of course you want.

Speaker 6 (18:25):
A second guess.

Speaker 5 (18:26):
Uh, maybe starting out in four some what we would
call an alternate shot.

Speaker 6 (18:32):
Yeah, wasn't the best idea.

Speaker 5 (18:34):
I mean, you've got to play alternate shot, that's part
of the format here, right, But to start out early
in the morning, entered ten.

Speaker 6 (18:42):
In two and four some two.

Speaker 5 (18:45):
So to start that very first match of the day
probably wasn't a great idea. But let's be honest, when's
the last time you played alternate shot?

Speaker 1 (18:55):
I can tell you when it well, I can't tell
you when, but I can tell you it was a
heck of a long time ago one time with my
brother in law in an actual tournament that we had
to play alternate shots for nine holes and that was
it and I hated it.

Speaker 6 (19:07):
Yeah, I A no, I totally agree.

Speaker 5 (19:11):
So that's been ugly and you know, not starting out
great this morning.

Speaker 6 (19:15):
To be honest with you, it's kind of you know.

Speaker 5 (19:18):
They're just a buzzsaw out there, and they just played
so well as the team and it is so much
more important.

Speaker 6 (19:24):
I thought Keegan would really inspire the guys.

Speaker 5 (19:27):
Obviously President Trump was here yesterday, and I thought that
would be an inspiration either one of those that work out.
You know, you got one of Keegan.

Speaker 6 (19:37):
I don't know if you got to see you at.

Speaker 5 (19:38):
The coverage yesterday, but he's kneeling on like the fifteenth
green and.

Speaker 6 (19:43):
Just kind of staring in the space.

Speaker 5 (19:47):
As he's thinking, maybe I should have put myself on
the team.

Speaker 1 (19:52):
I should get out there and kind of.

Speaker 5 (19:56):
Big Brind's going on is could he do it? You know,
obviously it han't work.

Speaker 6 (20:03):
Out, but you know the old day, today there are
but we cannot be more than four points behind.

Speaker 5 (20:13):
Going into today. We can't be more than four points behind.

Speaker 1 (20:17):
Absolutely, Uh you know, I just cannot.

Speaker 5 (20:20):
And going into singles and the fact that if it's
a time Europe retains the cup because they won't it
last time, that's right, dire straits for the Americans.

Speaker 6 (20:30):
And we're to see what happens.

Speaker 1 (20:32):
But let me ask you one more question. What do
you think about the way the fans up there in
New York treated Roy McElroy because I heard they were
in bed like huge choruses of voices shouting some pretty
nasty things at him.

Speaker 5 (20:49):
Yeah, I kind of think what you expect. I mean,
you know, no one thinks you're coming to Long Island
and you're going to a garden party. I mean, that's
just not the way people are up here, you know,
how tell you what they think and then tell you
why they thought it, you know. So yeah, I mean
the fact that rained dollars here, maybe that's welled on,

(21:09):
my little bet.

Speaker 6 (21:10):
I don't know, but uh, you know.

Speaker 5 (21:13):
Uh, I got to be honest with the fans have
been pretty quiet.

Speaker 1 (21:18):
I mean, well that's a good point. Yeah, we're we're
losing badly, so that Roy mclroy has nothing to feel
bad about. He's just walking around taking care of business.

Speaker 6 (21:31):
Yeah, I won.

Speaker 5 (21:32):
I was walking yesterday with Scottie and one of European
fans said, hey, at least give us a game out here.
I bought tickets for all three days.

Speaker 4 (21:42):
Use my ticket.

Speaker 1 (21:43):
Oh my word. Oh that's that's truth and poetry, you
know there it is right there. Yeah, oh my god,
that hurts.

Speaker 5 (21:54):
I don't know, it's just you know. And so next year,
you know we're going.

Speaker 6 (21:58):
To our team.

Speaker 1 (22:01):
Oh you're breaking up, dude.

Speaker 6 (22:04):
Uh, you know in two years in Irewan. So I
just don't know.

Speaker 7 (22:10):
We'll see Hey.

Speaker 6 (22:11):
Always good talking to you now. Maybe tomorrow we'll do
another recap or something if.

Speaker 1 (22:16):
There's something to talk about, I hope. So yeah, I'll
keep an eye on the mark. Thank you so much, man,
I appreciate your time.

Speaker 6 (22:24):
Hey, glad to do it, sir audios.

Speaker 1 (22:28):
All right, yeah, that's art strictly. He and I go
way back. We play a lot of golf, well as
many rounds as we can get in together every year,
usually on media days here, there and everywhere. He somehow
manages just to be He manages to be the guy
who's who's making the invitations. He gets with some of
these clubs or they get with him, and then a

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week later I'm getting an email saying, hey, man, we
got golf on the whatever of the whatever. I got
one coming up in early October as a matter of fact,
and it's on them, so I don't even have to
worry about taking a day off or running a best
of fifty plus over there on KPRC. That's my day off,
and I use it for golf pretty heavily. Actually. That's

(23:12):
the way I keep my head on straight is going
out there and realizing that there's far more difficult things
to do than come in here and enjoy talking to
all of you. I really do. Seven on three two
one two five seven ninety Email me Doug Pike at
iHeartMedia dot com. I wonder if Kegan Bradley wasn't just
looking kind of lost on the fifteenth. They're wondering if

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any of his matches would ever get to the sixteenth.
That that was the most telling thing I think to
me yesterday about either how these guys our side came
into the competition, whether they whether they just thought they
were gonna get whipped, or whether they realized it really quickly.

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When the three losses of the morn in the morning,
not one of them made it to the sixteenth tea,
that's that's pretty telling to me that they've got their
hands more than full, and they're gonna have to find
a new gear somehow, some way to right this ship
and at least make it competitive tomorrow. If they if

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they falter the same way they did and wind up
what down seven, eight, seven, eight to nine to whatever
this afternoon, it's it's gonna be almost an impossible hill
to climb tomorrow. Make it competitive at least, good heavens,
just make it competitive. I don't want to get run

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you're gonna look great, You're gonna feel great, and you're
gonna just you're gonna you're gonna play better. I do.
I feel like I play a little bit better, almost
like I'm trying to live up to the image that

(27:28):
I feel that like this Kobe Stevens gear creates. And
if you're wondering about the man who's behind the company,
almost every time I try to get in touch with him,
I can't do it this weekend, Doug, because I've got
to be at this charity tournament for such and such.
I can't do it on Monday, Doug, because I'm at
a tournament for such and such over on the other
side of town. This guy gives back a ton. He

(27:50):
gives back a ton. He's a great guy to know.
If you ever get the chance to meeting and you'll
love his golf apparel. Go to the website, take a
look around. You'll see what I mean away from U
sizes up to I think up to four XL. So
that pretty much takes care of this whole crew. Kobe
Stevens dot com, co, B Y, S, T, E V E,

(28:10):
and S Kobe Stevens dot Com. Now I don't know
how much I want to hear about this. I'd rather
talk to David. Let's do that. Welcome back Dog Pike
Shoe on Sports Talk seven ninety. I'm gonna click this
button and magically Dave will be there. What's up, Dave?

Speaker 8 (28:31):
Yeah, Doug, real quickly, did I'm uh not what I
called about? Did you forget about the opening of both
season this morning when you were talking about the seasons?

Speaker 1 (28:41):
Maybe for just a second. It's all. It's actually on
this piece of paper in front of me here, and
I just didn't say it early enough. I guess for you.
You're right though. No, Yeah, tee it up. Let's go everybody.

Speaker 8 (28:54):
Uh what I called about? We were talking last week
about those two hunters who were lost in Yeah, yeah,
I'm struck by lightning. And earlier this week there's a kid,
I say, kid, these are all twenties. All these people
are twenty somethings. Kak fisherman on Toledo Ben getting ready

(29:16):
for a big tournament that they're having up there. I
guess this weekend his body was recovered.

Speaker 3 (29:24):
Drowned.

Speaker 8 (29:26):
And I guess the ball I want you to run
with is what is it about? Well, I guess not
to answer my own question, but when you're in your twenties,
you feel like you're bulletproof and then you're really not.

Speaker 1 (29:40):
You know what they are, And as you were saying that,
I'm thinking about it. Okay, what is it? What is
it that's different between them and you and me?

Speaker 3 (29:49):
Maybe?

Speaker 1 (29:50):
And in our by the time we were in our twenties,
we had done so many things outdoors. We had had
so much experience in the outdoor, probably more so than
the average twenty year old today.

Speaker 9 (30:05):
Would you agree with that, Yeah, absolutely.

Speaker 1 (30:09):
And we also had parents and uncles and grandfathers who
took us fishing, who took us camping, who took us
out into the woods and pretty much said, okay, go
start a fire, Okay, go cook something we can eat,
and we learned a lot more. And now it maybe

(30:32):
to the detriment of some of these younger people, they're
trying to get all their education sitting at the house
looking at YouTube. They can they can get the instructions,
but they can't get the experience, and they can't get
just that bank of knowledge that it may not be

(30:52):
exactly A that helps them get out of a pickle
or B a personal experience that maybe helps them. But
the combination of skills they learned when they messed up
with A and they messed up with B might get
them out of C. Does that makes sense?

Speaker 8 (31:07):
It does, Doug, And I think too, you know, just
sit here thinking about it where you're talking. You know,
we broke bones. I mean we had things happened just
because we were outdoors more. And I think this younger
generation takes for granted what what can be possible.

Speaker 1 (31:23):
Yeah, I've seen some mention of that before. Somebody on
Facebook pointed out, when was the last time you saw
a kid in a cast? And when we were growing up,
there was somebody somebody had a cast on almost every
day of school.

Speaker 3 (31:35):
That's true. That is so true, isn't it.

Speaker 1 (31:38):
Yeash, I mean just a playground. They'd be out there
on the playground snapping arm, snapping an ankle, something like that,
and next day they're in a cast. And sure enough,
six weeks later they get it sawed off and off
you go.

Speaker 3 (31:51):
Yeah, that I think you hit the dog.

Speaker 8 (31:55):
It taught us that bad things can't happen that, uh,
if not to us, to somebody else. And maybe we
took fewer chances.

Speaker 2 (32:04):
I don't know.

Speaker 3 (32:04):
I don't know.

Speaker 1 (32:05):
We didn't know wed we took more chances, but we
figured out how to get out of them alive. I
think the more experience you have with the outdoors, the
better shots you got. Now, those guys getting struck by lightning,
and that's just that's an act of God. Okay, it
just banned the lightning in his And they bear in
mind they're up up in the mountains carrying the only

(32:27):
metal objects for probably ten miles, so that probably didn't
really work in their favor, come to think of it.
But this guy on Talita Bend, who knows what got him?
And he may he may have had a lot of
experience paddling around. I don't know how much experience he had.
Clearly he was enthusiast, and and that wasn't his first

(32:50):
kayak trip, but who knows what had Who knows what
got him? I just I don't know. I think the
experience that you get from actually being outdoors. And I'm
working with a place called the Wild School that starts
little bitty kids that come out with their moms and
then up to I think it's twelve year olds or
something like that, and maybe sixteen year olds and even

(33:10):
adult courses where they take small groups for a couple
of hours to half a dozen different parks around here
and whatnot. And you pay money basically to have someone
introduce your your kid to the outdoors. It's just something
the parents should be doing. But the parents aren't doing it.
And people are signing up and paying pretty good money

(33:32):
just for their kids to come home dirty and got
dirt under their fingernails, maybe got a scrape or a scratch,
but they were outdoors. And the woman who runs it,
I interviewed her last week on fifty plus. These kids
absolutely love it. They thrive on It got me fired
Thank you for taking yes, sir, Thanks you got me

(33:54):
fired up. You know you do. I appreciate it, man,
I'm inspired. Thanks David. See, allright, we got to take
a little break here. Holy cow, man, I'm gonna talk
a little bit more about that when we get back.
Because I do believe that young people have access to
more information, but more information isn't the same as more experience,

(34:18):
because when you're getting experiences on your own out there,
you know how it feels when that kayak is just
about to roll over on you. You know how to
get back in it because you had to get back
in it because you were soaking, wet and cold. There's
all kinds of pluses for the information that's available, but

(34:41):
that information will never replace experience. I don't believe it will.
Firsthand experience. Bell they'll meet market Highway thirty six, midway
between Seey and Hempstead. Very easy to find, right in
the middle of town. Can't miss it if you can.
If you think you can, just right to the middle
of town, roll down your windows, start driving around to

(35:03):
use smell barbecue, and then turn up wind whichever way
that takes you, and pretty soon you're gonna bump into
the building. A great selection of meat products, a great
bunch of stuffed pork, tender stuff, pepper stuff, mushrooms. Take
them all home, cook them up. You'll be stuffed by
the end of dinner, for sure. They've got hamburger patties,

(35:26):
They've got these giant chuck wagon patties that are half
pounds of beef, seasoned up and loaded with cheddar cheese
while game processing tea and off they'll be deer brought
into Bellville this afternoon. You bet on that with both
seasons starting up, Like I almost forgot, I'm glad Dave
called me and told me about that. I had it
on my list. I just wasn't down to it yet.

(35:47):
It's funny how the list gets made early and then
if I had more time, I would have prioritized my list,
but I didn't. Full menu of pecan smoke, barbecue and
all the sides you could imagine Monday through if you're
playing at home, that's all seven days of the week,
ten am to seven pm. You got your con smoke
pulled pork. You got homemade hot dogs too on that

(36:09):
same menu for the kids or for you if that's
what you prefer. Dry sausage dry stick's one of my
favorite things to put in a snack bag. They got
turkey jerky, they got beef jerky, and a bunch of
different flavors. Everything you want for snacks, everything you want
to help you get through a long day in a
hot deer blind Belleville meatmarket dot com is the website

(36:31):
Belleville MeetMarket dot com. Seven forty nine on Sports Talk
seven ninety The Dougpike Show, Thanks for listening. First hour
almost used up, almost but not quite a reminder, as
David was saying, I'm glad he kind of knocked on
my nogging door to remind me that bo season opened

(36:54):
up this morning for the deer hunters. So if you're
of that persuasion, and I'd be curious to know what
you've seen on your scouting trips. And if you haven't
been scouting, well then you know better you should have been. Anyway,
back to this notion of information versus experience, I think

(37:17):
there's the information that's available certainly is valuable, but I
don't know that anybody should relied too heavily on that.
If you've got a choice, for example of let's say,
let's talk about the kayaking part for a second. If
you've got a choice of going kayaking in a little
neighborhood lake somewhere, which you might find boring because there

(37:43):
are a whole lot of fish in there, or you
might find uninspiring because it's not a big name body
of water where there might be a fourteen pound bass
in there or something like that. Just remember that being
on that water and fishing out of your kayak is
preparing you for that trip to the big water, for

(38:06):
that trip to the big tournament, and it's just critically
important to have that time on the water hours. It's
kind of like becoming a pilot. There are people who
who play a lot of video games and fancy themselves
pilots because they're able to land that plane on the

(38:29):
game on the screen. But I wouldn't want them flying
me to Dallas. I much prefer somebody who has actual
experience as a pilot and has gotten better and better
at it and earned the and putting the hours actually
doing the activity of flying a big jet plane, rather

(38:50):
than somebody who's been sitting in the basement and just
playing on a little handset. It's amazing how confident some
of these people become when you read their stories, and
they truly think they can land a real plane with
real people in it. And no, I'm not getting in
an airplane with somebody who Oh yeah, I've been, I've been,

(39:12):
I've got I've logged five hundred hours on the video game,
same airplane. Oh yeah, it's got all the instruments, all
of that stuff. Nothing could go wrong. Well, and oh
it simulates rain and it simulates storms and all that stuff. Well,
simulation and the real deal are very different. Kind of

(39:32):
like being in a kayak. If I'm learning how to
kayak online and that's all I've ever done, I'm not
ready to get in that boat yet. You got to
start with baby steps. I wouldn't. I wouldn't try to
paddle across across Galveston Bay in a kayak until i'd
put in one thousand hours because there's a thousand things

(39:54):
that could go wrong on the way, and you probably
ran into one of them for about each hour you've
been the kayak. It's great, Like I said, the information's great.
It's good to have tucked away in your brain. You
can learn about fishing, you can learn how to tie
cool knots. Boy, there's one knot that I want to try.
I saw it the other day and I never bookmark them.

(40:16):
I never save them because there are just so many
of them. But there's one that really it really interests me.
Aligned the leader connection that I want to try. That
should be pretty cool. Yeah, inexperience gets a lot of
people hurt and gets a lot of people killed every year, unfortunately,
in all aspects of the outdoors. People trying to just

(40:40):
do a little bit more than they're ready to do.
And it starts when you're little. It starts with what
the wild school is teaching these kids. They expressly say
to the parents in the literature that they get when
they're signing kids up, send your child with at least
one complete change of clothes, because there's a really really

(41:03):
good chance that they're going to get dirty and they're
but it's going to be filthy, and they might get wet,
and we want to be able to change them into
something else that they can wear dry coming home. Talked
about this on fifty plus after I talked to what
is her name, Lindsay. Lindsay Gold to me, and when

(41:25):
I was little, I was constantly a filthy, dirty mess.
My buddy's on the street and I played outside. If
there was mud within three blocks, I think we could
smell it and we would go straight to it and
we would get in it, and we would throw it
at each other, and we would come home and quite
literally more than once every one of us was not

(41:48):
allowed to come in the house until we got hosed off.
That was what little kids got done to them to
bring them back into the house. That ye had to
just stand outside and put your arms out out and
close your mouth and close your eyes, and mom or
Dad would just hose you down and get most of
the dirt off, and then they'd throw a towel around

(42:10):
you and bring you in, throw you in the tub
and then have to scrub the ring out of the
tub for about an hour and a half. And we
had the times of our lives. We did. We played,
We played baseball and football in the street. We left
a lot of skin on the concrete back then, and
nobody died from it. We learned though, We learned a

(42:30):
lot of things. There were a couple of kids on
the block who broke bones. I was the stitchest guy.
I was getting chopped up every time I turned around.
Got two. I think I've told you, Frankie, and I
know I've talked about it, so forgive me, but I'll
be very brief. There was a vacant lot. We had
rock wars. We just choose up sides, get one side
to the other, and everybody grab up all the rocks

(42:51):
they could find. One two, three go, and this rock's
going in the air back and forth and twice. I
was a good throat, but I wasn't very good at defense.
And we all wore baseball caps because we thought that
would help. Turns out they don't. But yeah, I ended
up having to walk home with my hand just pressed

(43:11):
against my head, bleeding all over, and get rushed to
the doctor's office for four or five or six stitches
at the top of my head. That explains a lot,
probably about me. Talked about that before. I had a
cast once, and that was my own fault. I had
to have surgery done after I went over the front
end of a dirt bike and popped a bone in

(43:33):
my hand. There's still a little lump there because I
didn't I didn't do what the doctor told.

Speaker 6 (43:37):
Me to do.

Speaker 1 (43:37):
I just I thought, yeah, it feels pretty good, and
I go, I can go hit some golf balls. And
when I did, the two they looked like finishing nails.
I don't know what surgeons call them, but we're sticking
out of my hand about a half inch and he
said these are going to have to be in for
a few weeks. Just don't do anything crazy well to me,
hitting balls wasn't crazy, and the pins were loose and

(43:59):
the spots were bleeding. This is not good. So I
go to the doctor's office. He says, what'd you do?

Speaker 3 (44:07):
Nothing?

Speaker 1 (44:07):
I'm just just humming along in summertime, having a good time,
and he just he just sat back in his chair
and he goes, what did you do? I hit some
golf balls. He sends me to a room down the
hall and I walk in that room and all that's
in there is gauze and plaster and that's it. And
he walks in and instead of just having those two
little pins out of my hand, he puts me in

(44:30):
a cast up to my elbow, says, Okay, hit all
the balls you want. It's like, no, can't hit balls
with that. Yes, he goes, that's my point. Yeah, all right,
let's take a break. Carter's country Boy with deer season
opening today for the bow hunters, all that does is

(44:50):
inspire the rifle hunters to get ready. We know we
got to get ready, and we don't have much time.
And if you're looking for something you want, looking for
some thing you need, or a little combination of the two,
as a hunter, you're gonna find it At Carter's Country
sixty plus years of selling guns, am on hunting stuff
all over town. No snorkels, no footballs, no sneakers, no

(45:14):
tennis rackets, none of that stuff. Just what you need
and want to enjoy hunting and shooting in the great outdoors,
full service range and gunsmithing up the flagship store on
Chureshwig Range Day, by the way, just happens to be today.
Up there at that store, they're going to have representatives
from all of the shooting industry, a lot of the

(45:36):
big top names where you can actually go up there
and handle and even fire some of the latest and
greatest that all these manufacturers have two other locations around
town where you can pick up what you need, or
you can go online and find it as well. That
and all the red tag sales that are on right
now where you can get tremendous deals on products that

(45:58):
are brand new goods they get and they've just been
on the shelf and they're trying to make room on
the shelves for the new stuff that's coming in right
behind this stuff. Take advantage of that, Take advantage of
the red tag sales at Carter's Country. New guns, pre
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(46:20):
Com is that website. Start there, take a look around
sixty plus years. Sixty plus years. There's a reason they've
been in business that long. Carterscountry dot Com. All right,
second hour starts now. Looking at the day, two foursomes
De'shamba and Young are two up over Fitzpatrick and Oberg.

(46:42):
McElroy and Fleetwood are ahead and they're match. They're three
up over Harris English and Colin Morecawa, John Rahm and
Terrell Hatton one up on Xander Shaffley and Patrick Cantley,
and boy, this is a good one. McIntyre and Hovelin
two up over Henley and Scheffler. I'm not sure Michael

(47:06):
Henley is doing Scheffer any favors. Nothing against the guy.
He's a great player. He made the Ryder Cup team,
for heaven's sakes. But Scottie Scheffler's having to tope most
of the water, I feel, and I don't know, maybe
keeping them change them up for tomorrow or even this
afternoon wouldn't hurt to shuffle the deck. I almost in

(47:28):
a way if I were a Ryder Cup captain, which
I'll never be, and had to make those pairings. I
would almost sit those guys down in a room and say, look,
every one of you guys knows what we're up against.
Every one of you guys knows how to play this game.
I'm going to put all your names in a hat,
and each pair of names that I draw out, that's

(47:48):
how you're going out go out there and take care
of business. Just go out there and take care of
your business. I wouldn't worry about how they feel about
each other. I'd have had that speech a long time ago.
If you don't like this guy, then let me know
and I'll take you off the team and I'll find
somebody who does. But every one of those guys is capable,

(48:08):
and there shouldn't be anything in their minds except winning.
Let's go talk to faux pro for a minute. See
what's up? What's up, faux pro.

Speaker 4 (48:19):
Man?

Speaker 2 (48:20):
I never thought i'd thank President Nixon for anything, but
today is fifty two years ago he declared today National
Fishing and Hunting Day. About that, man, I didn't know
about that.

Speaker 1 (48:33):
Well, yeah, I've been around longer than you. I remember
hearing about it. But it's just this is one of
those days that kind of come and go for the
majority of people. Frankly, you know, you and I and
this audience are somewhat anomalous in the world. Not everybody fishes,
and which is a very good thing. Thank goodness. They
don't all fish, Thank goodness. They don't all know how

(48:56):
fun it is that would be. You have a hard
time even getting to the water, let alone getting on it.

Speaker 2 (49:03):
Oh oh, I know. That's why I called you yesterday.
You know, that would have been the day to play
hooky and the day for me to take a gold
pro fishing. And I had my gold pro I had
and didn't take it, and I said, I just go
it's gonna be high pressure north when all these kind
of things that fish don't like.

Speaker 3 (49:20):
And then think.

Speaker 2 (49:22):
When I called you, I was in the neighborhood of
four of your fifty fish and stopped counting at seventy
five a by noon, And good lord, I said, I
don't know. Somebod asks how many guys, I just say
a lot.

Speaker 1 (49:33):
Do you have one of those little you carry one
of those little clickers like a counter on your belt,
like when people are counting how many people are going
into a stadium or something?

Speaker 2 (49:42):
You should I actually, actually I actually have one of
my boats for when I'm white bass fishing. Oh okay,
because it gets kind of like that. Dave, me and
Lane had it it just, you know, Lane just lets
it look back at me and said this is stupid,
you know. I said, well, it's you know, I said,
that's the way it was yesterday. Man, I'm looking at
schools of the average school had twenty black masks in it,

(50:04):
and there was one school I followed around that easily
had one hundred of his biggest school of black mass
I ever seen since soul Faith County days. Turn Payott
County stuff.

Speaker 1 (50:13):
Turn it off, faux pro, turn it off.

Speaker 2 (50:16):
I tried to, but I actually could have turned it
off yesterday. At one point I was standing on the
deck of the boat Dug and I was looking three
undred sixty degrees. I didn't know where to cast. They
were all blowing up there like I'm just gonna watched
this for a second.

Speaker 1 (50:28):
You know that that's a perfect example of what I
was just talking about a little bit ago with David
about experience on the water. You had an opportunity at
that point to just close your eyes and cast and
catch another fish and close your eying cast catch another fish.
But you you took the time to just soak in
the moment and just look and experience that. And it's

(50:50):
not a safety thing we're talking about here, but it's
just something that I've had that kind of go on
with me, Like offshore with tuna, I've had it going
on with with speckled trout, under birds and stuff like that.
And if you just use your eyes only and observe
that stuff for a minute, you can you can take
this little snapshot of your world and hold on to

(51:14):
it forever. That's pretty cool.

Speaker 3 (51:16):
Man, exactly.

Speaker 2 (51:17):
And if you're looking at that screen, you never see that.

Speaker 1 (51:20):
Oh no, you know.

Speaker 2 (51:21):
You never see that. There's so much you miss if
you're just looking at that screen all day. You know,
I use the screen for reference. Okay, that that I
start fishing. But you know the craziest thing about this
certain lake is that you know, speckled trout, white bash
and stuff. You're looking for the birds, right, you look
for the goals and show you where the bait is. Well,
in this lake you look for the bald eagles. Ain't

(51:43):
diving for bait. They're diving.

Speaker 6 (51:46):
Man.

Speaker 2 (51:46):
When you see the ball, when you hear you hear
the bald eagles from across the lake. Kind of ease
that way, and ease that way, and there they are.
You know, so that use bald eagles for reference before,
but it works on this lake so well.

Speaker 1 (51:58):
There are more bald eagles these days and there used
to be. If we can ever do something with the cornorants,
there'll be more bass again too.

Speaker 2 (52:06):
I wish the detailed tell you what I have. I
have fallen out of the boat. Well, I fell out
of the boat once. I've been thrown out once when
I was a kid, I had two people I was
fishing with fall out of the boat. And all four
of these are on lake livingson. Oh but you know
not to say this happened to the Tayak guy that

(52:26):
it's stitching that. But Kalita bed is a very heavily
timbered lake.

Speaker 6 (52:30):
It is.

Speaker 2 (52:30):
And two of the times, three of the times. The
one time I fell out, my two buddies fell out.
When they first fell out, I was concerned they fell
out and speared themselves.

Speaker 1 (52:39):
Yeah, oh my god, that's that's quite a legitimate concern.
On some of the lakes in Texas, I know it is.
And when those especially when the water's down a little bit,
and those things are maybe you got something big around
as a baseball bat that's kind of a little pointy
at the top because top broke off you years ago

(53:01):
and still but still pretty solid and two feet underwater,
and you fall out of a boat and you just
might get skewed.

Speaker 2 (53:08):
Exactly you got you gotta you gotta your your concern
first and you laugh later once you decide to yeah,
but that, but that you know that you know to
lead a ben if you ever been on that lake
and you stay in the boat land or you or
you tear some stuff up, you know.

Speaker 1 (53:23):
Well, a very good point if you're if you're looking
at it. Let's say, if you're deciding you want to
go fish to lead a ben for the very first time,
or or fant County or Livingstone, any of them that
have a ton of stumps in them, and you you
go to maps and you go to how do I
fish to lead a ben? They're going to tell you
routes to take and this, that and the other, and

(53:45):
and there may even be a caution there that says
watch out for stumps. But then you get to the
lake and it's your first time and you're new and
you don't know what you're doing at all, and you
don't understand any of this, and you look around and
you go, huh, what stumps? See any stumps? And because
they're six inches under water, and all of a sudden

(54:05):
you've got a lower unit on the bottom with the
rest of them or worse.

Speaker 2 (54:09):
That's one of the best investments I've ever made. Was
they sell a boat lanes car. Oh yeah, debt finder
for both toaleda ben and raver and and it is.
It is deadly, deadly active. And even back in the
days when I was professionally fishing, I would hire guides. Yeah,
first time I ever fish rich in Chambers, I hired

(54:31):
a guide. Not to show me anything about fishing. I said,
take me out in my boat, you drive it. You
showed me how to get to where I want to
go safely.

Speaker 3 (54:39):
Yep.

Speaker 2 (54:40):
And that's another reason to hire a guide, not just
to put you on fish, but keep you alive.

Speaker 1 (54:44):
Oh man, I've been preaching that for so long. It
was that was discussed this morning down the dial with
my buddies down there, Cliff and Mickey were talking about that.
Now Cliff had had a customer come up and hire him,
I think for two or three days, just to show
him how to get in out of bath and Bay.
And I I preach that on the Galveston based system,
the safety factor isn't so much as finding places to fish.

(55:08):
And if somebody's trying to find places to fish, their
best investment once they buy that boat and they're all
gung ho is to hire a guide. And the first day,
I think you just you sit at a picnic table
for four hours and let that guy show you exactly
when and where and how he's going to try to
get where he goes, and then take him the second day,

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invest for at least two days, then get out on
the water and let that guy punch in routes to
get to where you're going. I mean, it's just so,
it makes so much sense.

Speaker 2 (55:39):
It's worth two three hundred dollars. You call your local
marine engine guy and ask him what a lower unit
repair costs. You'll find out real quick you should have
hired the guys.

Speaker 1 (55:48):
Yeah boy, yeah, boy. Man. Well, so what's going on?
How long is that action going to go on at
Mystery Lake. I'm not going to say the name, so.

Speaker 2 (55:57):
Right, well, I'm pretty sure it's just starting with this
first school. Snap. Yeah, I'm thinking I have the I
have the affordable luxury of calling in sick on Mondays.
So I'm just saying, but yeah. And even after it
lasted up to about almost one o'clock before the schools
kind of dispersed and you can still pluck off two

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or three or two or three there four, But then
I would. But then I went back to conventional fish
and went through a frog around, caught one flipping a
big jig around the grass, caught one doing that, but
but that, but that draw massive schools called me back.
And you know what, My best bait ended up being
a one eighth ounce jighead with the bar pripped down.
Somebody told me about one yeah, and a little bitty

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inch and a half croppy meadow because they were feeding.
I saw the bait. They were feeding on, really tiny bait.
And you throw that, You throw that jig out over
that school. If you made a good cast and let
it drop. These fish are twenty feet deep. That day
would drop ten feet. That whole school would come up
like a tornado, and you just it was crazy. It

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was fun to watch.

Speaker 1 (57:02):
Holy cow, all right, faux pro Well, thanks man, it's
good to hear from you always, sir. We'll see you
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of like Kobe Stevens.

Speaker 6 (57:25):
He is.

Speaker 1 (57:25):
He's all over the place doing stuff, making people happy.
He's kind of like the pied Piper of cigar smokers,
if you will. Everybody follows him around because he makes
fantastic cigars right down there in Texas City, by the way.
That's where they manufacture these cigars. They don't buy them
and import them from anywhere. They use Cuban seed tobacco
grown in Central America. Keep it all on the up

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and up, and every leaf that comes in and they
get it in big bundles and whatnot has to be
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do to it. But then they unfurl those leaves and
sit right there in the Texas City place and smoking
lounge and make cigars. You can watch them do that.
You can watch a game over there. The next card

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He'll even come and roll cigars for your guests if

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The Duckpike Show. Thank you for listening. I certainly do
appreciate it very quickly. Before I get to Brandon, Steve
Dean ways in as we were talking about young kids
getting just dirty and having fun and learning from being outdoors.
Growing up in Galena Park, we had a treehouse in
the backyard. It was covered in dried up mudballs from

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when we would have wars with the other street. It
was absolutely covered. Our dad would make us clean it
off from time to time. What great memories. I wish
i'd leave lived on that street. Oh, I wish I'd
lived on that street. That would have been so cool.
That just ramps up the mudwar thing totally. I like that. Hey, Brandon,

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what's up.

Speaker 3 (01:00:01):
Good morning, mister fake. I'm all right man, Thank you,
good boy.

Speaker 10 (01:00:06):
It sure is nice, yes, no humidity, yes, sir. But
I just wanted to keep y'all keep promoting that wild
school because I tell you what how I raised my
kids is, when they were about four or five, I
would put them in the driver's seat with me. Of
course I would operate the pedals, but I would let

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them do the steering wheel. Yeah, And it's just it's
it's stuff like that. I mean, if they can get
the experience, and I mean I've got a lot of
I got a lot of scars on me from from
learning the hard way. It will get you out of
a jam, it will, no doubt.

Speaker 1 (01:00:47):
I did something kind of semi foolish with my son
when he was a little, just to play a little
practical joke on my wife because she would she was
so worried about him and and him being out in
the woods with me, because I was doing crazy stuff
and letting him jump mud puddles and whatnot. And I
had I was on an easy road, No, it's fine.
I was on an easy road, just a little gravel

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road in this ranch we were on. And Christian was
so young that his feet couldn't even get near the pedals.
But I wanted to take a picture of him quote
driving the truck, so I set him in the driver's seat.
I put the it, just left it in park, and
I knew he couldn't he didn't understand about gears, and

(01:01:30):
he wasn't going anywhere. But I got out and stood
like at two o'clock or ten o'clock, off the front
left fender of the truck and took a picture back
in there with him with both hands on the steering
wheel of just grinning from ear to ear, and I
sent back a picture and said, I'm letting him learn

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how to drive like a holy cow. She let into me, Oh,
you can't be doing that, he's too young. What are
you doing outside the truck with him driving the truck?

Speaker 3 (01:01:59):
He wasn't.

Speaker 10 (01:01:59):
Really, It's okay, all right, But I guarantee they'll they'll
learn a whole lot more outdoors than they will on
YouTube versus or whatever they do. Google Google that without
a doubt. He is my oldest son on the tractor
when he was seven.

Speaker 3 (01:02:17):
Yeah.

Speaker 1 (01:02:18):
Yeah, and learning how to do something on it too,
not just sitting.

Speaker 3 (01:02:21):
There, no, sir, he was. I made him operator good.

Speaker 1 (01:02:26):
You know, all of those skills will come in handy
for problem solving down the line somewhere in their lives, yes, sir, Yeah,
that's so.

Speaker 3 (01:02:37):
I'm glad y'all.

Speaker 10 (01:02:38):
Y'all keep promoting that school, and I'm glad whoever came
up with that as they're doing a great job.

Speaker 1 (01:02:43):
You know. Ironically, Brendan, the in Europe, those are they're
very popular, and that's just been going on for a
long time, and I think it's it's kind of a
what the problem. The problem is twofold. Number one, We've
got at least one generation and almost two now of
parents who got raised by helicopter parents themselves and never

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got to do any of this stuff. So they don't
even know how to take their kids to a park
and heaven forbid let them get dirty or let them
splash in a mud puddle. They just they just oh no,
we can't do that. They might get a germ. Well,
what what kept you and me healthy for as long
as we've been healthy is that we were exposed to
just darn near everything on the planet by time we

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were six.

Speaker 10 (01:03:33):
And that is that is true. That's one hundred percent true.
I mean these vaccines and everything they got. And that's
I agree with you. We we we were. Your body
has a great immune system, and we got exposed to
stuff that we probably didn't even know.

Speaker 1 (01:03:47):
I guarantee we did. I guarantee we did, just sir, man,
for sure. Thank you, Brendan. It's a great call, man.
I told the Wild School people, I'm I'm all in.
I'm going to help you any possible way that I
can help you to promote this.

Speaker 10 (01:04:02):
Place, because they're doing a great service to this generation.

Speaker 1 (01:04:06):
I agree with my friend thank you, Brandy, Yes, sir,
all right. Ideas, Yeah, that that wild school when I
when I first saw that, when I first got an
email from them on the Holy Cow, it's about time
somebody came up with this, and what a what a
great idea. I'm hoping that once they really refine everything

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in it and get it. It's only been around for
a little over a year, I think, and once they
kind of get it all dialed in. I asked them,
I said, are you going to offer franchises for this?
And they said, yeah, but we want to get a
little farther in, and we want to want to have
a better, better handle before we cut anybody loose with it.
And I think what they're concerned with, as much as

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anything else, is making sure that whoever wants to get
one of these franchises is kind of all in on
the work it's going to take to find the locations
to to just make it all happen. They even offer
classes if there's anybody in it. Well, there's probably not
anybody in this audience who has just almost zero outdoors experience,
but if there is, or if you know somebody who is,

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they even offer classes for adults. Come on, out, come
on out to the park. We'll teach you how to
walk through the woods without getting hurt. We'll teach you
how to shinny up a tree a little bit. Maybe
whatever it is that you want to learn how to
do any outdoors, they probably got somebody can help you
with that. I think it's a fantastic concept, I really do,
and I wish them so well with that, because children today.

(01:05:38):
I started doing research on this probably fifteen eighteen years ago,
maybe twenty years ago, and even then there was evidence
that there was a big study done it over multiple
years of a lot of kids, and there was hard
evidence that showed that kids who grew up with a
good understanding of the outdoors, a good understanding of what's

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going on outside their bedroom and their video games, were
generally better behaved. They were generally better polite, They were
aware that the world doesn't revolve around them, that they
were part of something much bigger. And on top of
that just that awareness, it was also noted that they

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actually scored better on standardized tests than kids who were
just kind of stuck in a big city somewhere and
did never get outside and get a little vitamin D
and get a little dirt under their fingernails. I was
a filthy mess when I was a little kid, frankied
you get Yeah, you were a scout, right, that's right.
So you could pitch a tent and you could start
us a fire, and you could if I was to

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go catch a fish, you could cook it for us,
couldn't you. I probably could?

Speaker 2 (01:06:51):
Yeah.

Speaker 11 (01:06:51):
I mean my grandfather, I've seen him, you know, strip
of fish and all that.

Speaker 1 (01:06:54):
Sure, you know, strip a fish, clean a fish, clean
it up.

Speaker 11 (01:07:00):
Okay, yeah, you know?

Speaker 1 (01:07:01):
Just yeah, Oh do you know what what you saw
was him ripping the skin off a catfish? Probably so,
because that's how you do that. You make a slice
around the back, behind the head, grab it with a
pair of special plyers and just rip it on back
and it comes right off. You can get that filet
off of there and m good. Yeah, yeah, we need

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to go do that sometime. You could probably get arrested
starting a fire in the park, all right, man. Yeah,
I'm glad you so you even even though you I
know you as the guy who's a fan of classical music,
I know you has all of that. Yeah I didn't.
I didn't know that side of you. That's good.

Speaker 2 (01:07:45):
Man.

Speaker 1 (01:07:45):
Yeah, you know your next time out doors won't be
your first at all, will it? No? No, sir, So
did you go how how deep did you go into scouting?

Speaker 11 (01:07:53):
I got to eagle.

Speaker 1 (01:07:54):
Oh good for you, man. Only how many badges did
you have?

Speaker 11 (01:07:59):
I think minimum, which is about what I got, was
like twenty one something like that. So it's a lot
of different stuff, and like y'all were saying earlier, you know,
just being outside and getting to experience all of it
and being aware of all that, but also being aware
of what to do, what not to do, safety, looking

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out for each other as you're outside, knowing how to
treat basic first aid stuff. Yeah, that was a really
good time.

Speaker 1 (01:08:33):
Yeah, boy's casts have changed a little bit. Man, they're
probably teaching.

Speaker 3 (01:08:36):
They got it.

Speaker 1 (01:08:36):
You'd probably get a merit badge for fixing a Lotte now,
Oh gosh, we got to take a break. I'll bet
you I'm closer to right than you think. All right,
Kobe Steves, I want to remind you again about the
brand that I wear almost almost all the time on
the golf course. I really do, unless they're all dirty.
Because I've been playing a lot of golf in a

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particular week or grown Prack Center whatever. Kobe Stevens has
been around for quite some time now, and they have
a tremendous, wonderful lineup of fantastic golf apparel for men,
for women, for kids, big sizes, small sizes. Now also
have an outdoors line they've brought out. Now that I

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have a little bit of I'm trying to get some
more of it from Kobe. I am because I love
wearing that stuff. It's really good quality. It looks good
as well, and on the golf side, like I've said
so many times, it'll make you feel like you play
better than you probably do. You'll I'm styling man. I
want to go shine my shoes before I get on
the golf course, even when I'm wearing his stuff. Kobe

(01:09:42):
Stevens dot com. They've got a store up on the
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styles they've got in. Or you can go to the
website where Faux Pro shops there too. He gets some
stuff from them as well. He'll vouch for the quality.
Maybe I'll get him on to talk about it sometime.
Kobe Stevens dot com is the website cob Y ste

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b e n S Great people, great community company. He
backs up what he sells and backs up his ask
for you to come buy stuff from him by going
out and being at almost every charity tournament in the land.
It seems like every time I turn around, he's at
another tournament helping people raise money for a good cost.

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and they'll do so at a very fair price and
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seven on Sports Talk seven ninety The Dugpike Show. Thank
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I've been grown going through a couple of them. Over
the break, Travis sent me a picture of what he
thinks is a cotton mouth. I'm not so sure that's

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the cotton mouth. It looks more like one of the
water snakes. But nonetheless, if you're creeping around in the
marsh and trip and fill up your hip boots while
you're putting out Doug dcoys reach back for more decoys
and see that right in front of you, you'd get
your attention. It will definitely get your attention. I don't
blame him for being a little cautious. I'm not a

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I'm not against snakes, and the next one I catch
certainly won't be my first.

Speaker 6 (01:13:03):
Uh.

Speaker 1 (01:13:04):
But yeah, I'm learning a lot. I'm watching a website
that that offers the opportunity if you can take a
picture of a snake and send it to that site
that app somebody who knows all about snakes will identify it.
And there's dozens of people on there who are expert
herpetologists who will just identify that snake along with its

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scientific name, almost immediately. And it's it's a really good
site too, to bring you more comfort in knowing that
the snake you're looking at is probably non venomous. Uh,
let's start with Dave and get to Chris in just
a second day.

Speaker 7 (01:13:43):
What's up, buddy, Hey, man out you're having a good
time all the Oh it's when I got when I
walked outside.

Speaker 3 (01:13:49):
This morning, I wanted to do backflips. Man. Oh yeah,
it's nice man. And the water out here is uh,
it's just a little ripple.

Speaker 7 (01:13:58):
I mean, you know, it's it's not as slick as glass,
but it ain't you know, it's not really making it
in the waves dream and it's just kind of banging
up against the boat. Dog, I mean a peered pylons
where I'm at.

Speaker 1 (01:14:10):
That's a nice sound.

Speaker 3 (01:14:13):
Yeah, we did good.

Speaker 7 (01:14:14):
And hey, uh yeah over here to my right on
the other side of the double boat launch.

Speaker 3 (01:14:19):
Uh, there's two young ladies over there. So I had
a bucket full of rain Street.

Speaker 7 (01:14:23):
So I walked over there, said, hey, here, let me
help y'all out, man, And I told them what they
were and yeah, see ya. You know that's what I
do a lot of teaching out here too, you know.
And those two young guys man, you know, they're they're
pretty good. But I mean I've been teaching them a
lot of stuff. And yesterday one of them he was
fishing with some chicken livers, yeah, and hooked into a twenty.

Speaker 3 (01:14:45):
Five pound.

Speaker 7 (01:14:47):
Glass car for Aggie bass Manly god, Yeah, the fight
was old, man. They had some they had one of
them bogo grid weighing things or whatever they weighed. It
was like right at twenty five pounds, and so yeah,
I know, Uh, there're a lady come walking over here
with their phone and was filming and everything. Then they

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changed numbers, you know, so that they could she could
send them a film, and then anyway they It was
funny because I'm over there and.

Speaker 2 (01:15:20):
His buddy's over there telling.

Speaker 7 (01:15:22):
Me what to do, and I'm telling you what to do,
but everybody's telling you what to do. And the bass
car going around the corner over there. He had to
there's a no swimming sign here. He had to take
his rod and go around it, and you know them
go back around it when the car had the fight
was old.

Speaker 3 (01:15:39):
You had a real good time.

Speaker 7 (01:15:40):
Hey, we've been catching a lot of quite a few
catsows too. And also when I went back come back
yesterday evening we at dark, they were back out here again.

Speaker 12 (01:15:50):
Wow and uh and then they.

Speaker 7 (01:15:52):
Said hey, uh game Warden Shorty said to tell you hey,
because I said what what? Yeah, right here and I
couldn't see your strip, you know, because it's dark, all right,
and uh yeah, But anyway, I don't know what are
your risk is there Moody for?

Speaker 1 (01:16:08):
But all right, well, hey David, I don't want to
cut you short man, but I want to grab Chris too.
Good to hear from you, as always, call me tomorrow
you bet audios. All right, let's go to Chris. What's up, Chris?

Speaker 13 (01:16:24):
Good morning, sir. I'm glad that I meant to call
you earlier about a month ago. But I'm glad cooler,
cooler heads to prevail. Regarding Herman Park. That would have
been a financial disaster. What they were going to do?

Speaker 1 (01:16:38):
What were they going to do.

Speaker 13 (01:16:42):
A nine hole part three and then do something with
the rest of it? You know, I don't know, make
a small, little nine hole golf course.

Speaker 1 (01:16:54):
Oh man, really, why would they do that so well?

Speaker 3 (01:16:59):
I don't.

Speaker 2 (01:16:59):
I don't know.

Speaker 13 (01:17:01):
The majority of the people. I don't know if you've
played out there. I play about maybe once a year.
But the majority of the people are out there who
play are r A fifty to seventy five.

Speaker 1 (01:17:10):
It's a short course and it helps, no doubt.

Speaker 13 (01:17:13):
Yeah, and putting a part nine, part three.

Speaker 1 (01:17:17):
No, that's I don't I don't know who comes up
with some of these ideas at the city level. But
that's that's not a good idea. That wouldn't come up.
That wasn't It didn't originate with a board of people
who play golf.

Speaker 13 (01:17:31):
No, I agree.

Speaker 3 (01:17:33):
I agree.

Speaker 1 (01:17:34):
I'm missing the inventory.

Speaker 13 (01:17:37):
Have you played out there in the last year or two?

Speaker 1 (01:17:39):
No, I have not. It's been quite a while. I
finally got to play gus and that was that was
good experience. How what kind of condition is hermany?

Speaker 13 (01:17:49):
It's a good, good condition. The fairs are great, the
screens are great.

Speaker 2 (01:17:53):
Oh wow, it's a good it's a good little course.

Speaker 4 (01:17:56):
Yeah.

Speaker 1 (01:17:56):
I need to go check it out again. It's been
a hot minute, for sure.

Speaker 13 (01:18:00):
It's it's it can be very busy at times.

Speaker 1 (01:18:02):
Yeah, yeah, I don't get a little corner. I'm glad
you told me about that, Chris. I'm gonna look into
that and see what I can find out about where
those plans have gone. Is there any have you seen
anything lately about it?

Speaker 13 (01:18:17):
I was told they put everything on holds for right
now and they're trying to decide what they're going to do.
I hope that they don't move forward.

Speaker 2 (01:18:28):
Because it would be stupid.

Speaker 1 (01:18:29):
Once this is once again in government. It happens all
the time. It's not broken, it doesn't need to be fixed.
There's nothing needs to be changed with a golf course
that's in good shape, that's affordable, and that's really fun
to play for people who can't hit it three hundred yards?
Why did you make that alone?

Speaker 13 (01:18:48):
They're always fucked in the morning till till ten o'clock.

Speaker 1 (01:18:50):
Wow by s Yeah, of course.

Speaker 13 (01:18:54):
Of course seniors aren't going to play a par par
three golf course.

Speaker 1 (01:18:58):
Now, Now that's not gold, that's that's.

Speaker 13 (01:19:02):
If you hear it, did you hear anything? I will
give us, give us, give us a shout back, But
I think they put everything on hold.

Speaker 3 (01:19:09):
Yeah.

Speaker 1 (01:19:10):
Well, I'm glad to hear that.

Speaker 2 (01:19:10):
Well.

Speaker 1 (01:19:11):
Likewise, if you, if you run into some information about it,
forward it to me by email. I'd love to see.

Speaker 4 (01:19:15):
It, okay, I will, yeah, thank you, Yeah, thanks Chris.

Speaker 1 (01:19:19):
I appreciate it. Man. See, wow, I had I had
no news on that. I didn't see any kind of
a release. Probably should probably, I would like to see
these releases if they're going to try to do something
to a golf course. But I suspect that they're not
exactly putting it on billboards, as if there'd be room

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next to the p I Attorney's billboards around town. I
would like to see what's going on there. I'll do
some research on this, I really will, because that that
disturbs me that they would think there's some better use
for that land over there than a golf course. It's
already pretty busy, and I think the the justification for

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it would be, well, we have gus Wortham now and
it's really a nice place to go play golf, and
it's affordable, and it's this, and it's that and the other,
but it's not a second course. And as many options
as this city can give the golfers who aren't on
country club budgets. The better, the more the better. That's

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messed up if they're gonna play with Herman Park. I
know a couple of guys who play over there. I'm
gonna call one of them this afternoon to see if
I can find out just exactly what's going on. I
may call the pro shop over there too and see
if they'll talk to me. I hope they're not gonna
change anything. I really do. There's no reason it's not broken.
Leave it alone. We need municipal golf courses and municipal

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golf courses that can be kept in good shape. I
got to take a break here. I can't stop, or
I don't want to stop talking about all that, but
I will because I got to waterfowl club. We are, Man,
We're on the tail end of teal season and then
shifting gears into the regular waterfowl season soon enough. And

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if you haven't got a place to hunt regularly yet
this year, you might really want to take a hard
look at Rice Land russeland Waterfowl Clubs out of Eagle
Lake been in operation under the same owner for fifty years,
a guy named David Pruitt. He's one of the best
callers in the land. By the way, he's got a
bushel basket maybe a room full of trophies he's earned

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over the years doing all his calling. And what he
does is he offers team or not team, but group
memberships six people per group. And one of the things
I like about it is that he's got a system
through which you get to choose where you want to
hunt the next morning, and all of the decisions about

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where everybody's going are made the night before, the evening before,
so you don't have to drive out to Eagle Lake
and all meet in one spot and then turn around
and drive forty five minutes in another director, probably back
toward the house for some of you to go to
where you're gonna hunt. You and your group can all
just meet right there at that property, at that gate
or wherever, and then going into your blind And all

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the blinds he has out there are at least a
quarter mile apart. On some of the bigger bodies of water,
there might be two blinds or so, but they're going
to be far enough apart that you can both work
your own ducks. He's got also a rule whereas there's
no guided hunting whatsoever going on on that property, so
all of the members get an equal crack at some

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of the best spots on the place. Every day. You
send all that information to him the evening before and
he makes the selections and emails them back out to
everybody or text messages. And I don't know how he
does it, but it gives everybody a good shot at
getting prime picks for every hunt they do. They've had

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good years for fifty years. There are a few slots left.
And one of the other things I like about it,
if you've got that six man group, you can if
one guy's going in the other five are out of
town doing something else, other five want to go play golf,
let them go. You can bring five of your friends
and put six people in that blind every single day

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if you want to. If you're that tough, you can
go hunt every day. That'd be great. Ricelandwaterfowl Club dot
Com is the website. If you didn't have a good
season last year, all the water he's gotten, all the
blinds he's got, David's gonna be able to take care
of you. Riceland Waterfowl Club dot Com eight fifty three

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on Sports Talk seven to ninety. Coming up at the
nine o'clock hour. We'll tee it up with Tommy O'Brien.
I saw him just the other day. He's pushing me
to make a move that it's difficult for me to make,
but I'm gonna do it because I think I can
pick up a little bit of yardage and I could
take I'll take every yard I can get. At my age,
I'm still I'm still swinging hard, but it doesn't go

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near as far as it did when I swung hard
when I was younger. Let me get to Rick here
and see what's on is mine? What's going on?

Speaker 3 (01:24:09):
Rick?

Speaker 4 (01:24:11):
I just wanted to make a quick comment on Chris's
call Herman.

Speaker 3 (01:24:15):
Park golf course.

Speaker 4 (01:24:19):
I used to be kind of a little more familiar
with it as too. It's had a management company. I
knew the guys that owned that management company.

Speaker 3 (01:24:27):
That managed it for the city.

Speaker 4 (01:24:28):
Okay, and I've been around, been around golf not to know.
I'm so glad for golf courses, et cetera, et cetera.
And when you start redesigning or starting from stratch either way,
the redesign along is incredibly expensive.

Speaker 1 (01:24:44):
Oh absolutely it is.

Speaker 4 (01:24:47):
Not to mention the actual construction of it, and making.

Speaker 3 (01:24:50):
It, you know, user ready, So.

Speaker 4 (01:24:53):
To go back to answer Chris's question, the powers that
be and and who who is would have the power
to let those contracts to do this work? To answer
this question, why would they do it? Real simple, follow
the money.

Speaker 1 (01:25:14):
Where do you think the money leads?

Speaker 3 (01:25:21):
Let you dwell on that a little bit o money. Okay,
we're it's a city.

Speaker 4 (01:25:28):
It's a it's a city contract. Oh who who decides?
Who makes that call?

Speaker 1 (01:25:35):
Who the mayor?

Speaker 9 (01:25:36):
How?

Speaker 4 (01:25:37):
How how big is their lyrigic?

Speaker 1 (01:25:40):
No idea?

Speaker 14 (01:25:41):
Man, it just might be available on the fourth of
July next year.

Speaker 1 (01:25:44):
Oh god, all right, we'll run with that, Rick, thanks, man,
roll with that, okay, I see audios. I I got
an email during the break from somebody who's who's in
the golf business, and there is he has heard more
than once a name brought up, not the name of

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a person, but the name of a facility brought up
that might have some eyes on expansion right down there
in the middle of the med center. And that entity
is a current hospital. And if they're going to expand,
they're going to have to expand somewhere into raw ground.

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And the closest raw ground is Herman Park golf course.
And if that's the plan, I don't know. I don't
know whether that will be good for the city or not.
Changing that golf course to a nine hole course or

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even some little well, it would no matter how they
break it down. If they cut that land in half,
it's not gonna draw Diddley Squat. There're gonna be a
few people who will go over there because that'll be
the kind of the only game in their town. But
it's gonna put pressure on gus worthm it's gonna put

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pressure on Sharpstown, which I guarantee you that the city
if they own that land. I'm not sure they own
the land, but if they do, they might be looking
for ways to cut their expenses somehow and get a
little money coming in instead of all of it going out.
That those are just bad ideas. They're just bad ideas.

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And somebody, somebody proved me wrong. Okay, somebody, somebody tell
me what benefit this city is gonna get by by
cutting Herman Park golf course in half and turning it
into something that nobody wants. Nobody in the golf world
wants that. It's a great little track, okay, and it

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is very soon Le to a senior game. And there's
a whole lot of seniors in this town who won't
be able to afford to go play golf elsewhere. If
they take Herman Park out of there, they won't be
able to justify it, and they'll just they'll just have
to leave the game. And that's not right. That's messed up.

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Same with Sharpstown. There's a lot of people on that
side of town who don't have a ton of money,
but they love golf, and you see them out there
every day at these courses. You see them all the time.
They're having fun. It's keeping them alive, it's keeping them healthy.
A lot of these older guys are walking once it
cools off a little bit, and they're staying in shape.
They're staying out of hospitals, they're staying out of doctors'

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offices because they've got something to do every day and
it keeps them busy and it keeps them healthy. Golf's
a good game for that. At some point, you get
a little bit too old for tennis, your knees kind
of get the hurting. You're smart enough not to go
play pickleball, which is now the the number one cause
of orthopedic troubles for seniors, and nothing against the game,

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but it just doesn't it's not conducive to a bunch
of old people out there playing it, and that's a
lot of who's playing it. I got to take this
break here. Holy cow, we're going to talk to Tommy
O'Brien when we get back. If you would let Philip
know that it's going to be a hot minute before
we get there, because I do need to take that
call with Tommy. On the way out. Speaking of golf,

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black Horse Golf Club up there on the northwest side.
Take Fry Road, well, no, take take two ninety to
Fry Road coming out of town, and then hang a south.
Go a couple of miles. You'll start seeing golf course
on the right. When you see golf course on the
left and the right, turn west into the gate. It
times out pretty well if you think about it that way.

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When you see that golf course on the left hand
side of the road, just flip that blinker on, take
a right into the gate and you'll be going into
two great golf courses, the North course, which is still
daily fee as it always has been in the South course,
which went private this year and has offered up some
pretty good opportunities to northwest side golfers who like it.

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Spice it up a little bit and mix it up
a little bit, because one of the options when you
become a member of the South course there is that
you also get access not only to just those two courses,
but both courses at Golf Club of Houston and to
Blackhawk Country Club. That's a pretty big chunk of golf.
You're playing there, get five for one. Really either way,

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you're gonna have a great time at black Horse. Everybody
there is looking to make sure you have a good time,
just as you would expect out of a quality golf course.
Got a nice grill in there. They got room to
do all kinds of big charity events because they've got
that giant practice range, and if you need lessons, they're
available at the far end of the range from some
really good instructors. Black Horse Golf Club dot com is

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a website. Go check it out. Black Horse Golf Club
dot Comluck Hour starts right now. Holy col Those first
two it seemed like it was a little bit slow
for a little while, and then all of a sudden,
I look up at it's nine o'clock holy Cow, without
further ado, let me get this gown on the phone.
Tommy O'Brien from out there at Blackhawk, what's up all?

Speaker 9 (01:31:16):
Everything's going great?

Speaker 15 (01:31:17):
What an awesome morning, seventy four degrees. My goodness, I'm
I'm besides myself. I'm not sweating already here in oh somehow.

Speaker 1 (01:31:28):
Yeah, just just pinch yourself and keep going, because we
got four or five more days of this and I'm
looking forward to every single one of them. So let's
let's talk about what Let's talk about what's going on
up there at Bethpage Black. Our guys just got hammered yesterday.
And you know, it's it's go lee that they started
so early this morning. I don't know. I guess they

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have to do that to get in all the round.
But it's a grind for both sides. But it's sure
easier when you're up three as the sun clears, right.

Speaker 14 (01:31:58):
It it it is.

Speaker 15 (01:31:59):
They got six holes a day, especially till the till
the individual matches, so that's why they got to start early.
And I not those guys can't can't handle that.

Speaker 9 (01:32:08):
But yeah, it's it's a lot of golf. It's a whirlwind.
I'm telling you.

Speaker 15 (01:32:12):
You know, it's uh, it's quite an experience. Uh when
you have the President of the United States coming up
and you got Michael Jordan there, and.

Speaker 9 (01:32:20):
It's just, I mean, it's a.

Speaker 3 (01:32:22):
Big deal show.

Speaker 1 (01:32:24):
Talk about the golf course itself, Tommy, because for amateurs,
there's that sign that everybody wants to get their picture
taken to about how hard a golf course it is
and basically telling anybody like me to just just go
down the street to putt putt and deal with it,
you know, is it that hard for them?

Speaker 14 (01:32:42):
A lot of it is the link of the golf course.

Speaker 15 (01:32:44):
It's a very long golf course, and you can remember
the first time they had a US Open there, there
were even a couple of tur pros that could not
clear some of the landings on the sea shot.

Speaker 12 (01:32:53):
Guys, you're like, oh my gosh, I can't clear the roof.

Speaker 9 (01:32:56):
And I'm a turpro.

Speaker 7 (01:32:58):
That's I know.

Speaker 9 (01:33:01):
I got to hit to the lady tea box there
and then and then try to get on from there.
But but yeah, a lot of it is the length
of a golf course.

Speaker 13 (01:33:09):
You know.

Speaker 15 (01:33:09):
You guys are talking about Herman Park on the on
the radio and the beauty of Herman Park is that
it's not the longest golf course in the world, so
guys can actually enjoy themselves and have a good time.

Speaker 9 (01:33:19):
I know that there was a push.

Speaker 15 (01:33:21):
A number of years ago from Jack Nicholas for people
to tee it up, to tee it forward so they
could enjoy golf and.

Speaker 7 (01:33:28):
Trying to yeah, trying.

Speaker 15 (01:33:30):
To play the back keys and whatever. So again, I
mean unless you're trying to play, you know, the PGA Tour,
I mean, move up a little bit, make it a
little bit easier, enjoy yourself, shoot.

Speaker 9 (01:33:39):
Better scores and so on.

Speaker 15 (01:33:40):
And so that's what's so difficult about Best Page is
that it's such a long golf course and then you
throw the US Open or the Ryder Cup rough on
the on the outskirts of it as well when you
miss the fairways.

Speaker 9 (01:33:53):
I mean, that's what's so difficult.

Speaker 15 (01:33:55):
Although the Euros don't seem to make it look very
difficult right now.

Speaker 9 (01:33:59):
It's amazing how well they play.

Speaker 1 (01:34:01):
You know, from an instructor standpoint, Tommy, are you seeing
anything in any of any of the guys on either
side that tells you they're out of sink a little
bit or messed up?

Speaker 9 (01:34:16):
Very much.

Speaker 15 (01:34:16):
Not a mechanical thing, not a talent thing. But I'm
watching our guys and I'm just like, it just doesn't
look they have fun. There's so much pressure to win,
and the Europeans just always.

Speaker 12 (01:34:27):
Look like they're having fun. They're cutting up.

Speaker 15 (01:34:32):
Very much like, you know, not to compared to the Astros,
but the Astros right now don't look like they're having fun.
And when I started watching them back in twenty nineteen,
those guys were having a blast and they were killing everybody.
I mean, there's an element of having fun which kind
of allows you to perform at your peak, at your highest,
Whereas if you look like you're being led to your

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death sentence while you're.

Speaker 12 (01:34:54):
Playing, it's just not going to happen.

Speaker 2 (01:34:57):
You know.

Speaker 15 (01:34:58):
It's a it's not a talent thing. It's not a
you know, they're better than us mechanically thing. It's a
they just they're just having more fun.

Speaker 3 (01:35:05):
And I.

Speaker 9 (01:35:08):
Maybe that's a wild way of looking at it, but
I just.

Speaker 12 (01:35:10):
Don't see them laughing, cutting up.

Speaker 9 (01:35:11):
Having that looks like they're being led to their.

Speaker 12 (01:35:13):
Death sentence every time I see them.

Speaker 9 (01:35:15):
You know, they just need a couple of good breaks
to change that. But you know, that's kind of what
I see.

Speaker 16 (01:35:22):
You know, they's in the highlights, and they got their
hats handed to them yesterday, and I think that may
have kind of brought them down to a little gut check,
in a reality check, and they probably went to bed thinking, go, Leah,
I mean, how bad is it going to get?

Speaker 1 (01:35:37):
Instead of well, we're still pretty pretty much in this thing.
Even even still, I'm looking at the score right now,
five and a half to two and a half, and
they're behind in three matches, I think, And this is
just the second morning. That's it.

Speaker 15 (01:35:50):
This is right, and the Americans do not have the
advantage being on home soil like they used to because
to think about it, most of these guys on the
euro team that they're playing against played college golf here.
They're used to our style of golf, so it's not like,
you know, all of a sudden, this is brand new.
We're used to links and wind and oceans.

Speaker 3 (01:36:12):
And no, no, no, no no.

Speaker 15 (01:36:13):
They're used to what they're seeing at that page because
they played it on a regular basis when they played
in the NCAAA, and so at any rate, it's not
quite the event that they used to have as a
result of that, because I keep hearing an actually say, well,
it's on American soil, they should. Now, these guys play
here all the time.

Speaker 9 (01:36:32):
So it's not like it's they got this huge event.
It's more of an.

Speaker 15 (01:36:35):
Advantage for them when we go over there than it
is for us over here, I feel, because again they
play college golf here.

Speaker 1 (01:36:43):
Talk about the difference, and I've heard it mentioned a
couple of times this week. The European players typically grow
up playing tons of match play and very little stroke play,
and it's just the opposite here. Does that Does that
factor into it at all?

Speaker 3 (01:37:00):
It could?

Speaker 9 (01:37:01):
You could?

Speaker 15 (01:37:01):
I mean you've heard the argument that, you know, the
Americans are very individual, very do their own thing, and.

Speaker 9 (01:37:07):
So on and so forth.

Speaker 15 (01:37:08):
And I'm listening to all the interviews in these European
guys and they're like, thinking about this.

Speaker 9 (01:37:13):
In January of this year. They're not even They're so
far ahead they mark this on their calendar. They just
can't wait.

Speaker 12 (01:37:21):
And again it's that fun aspect, they can't.

Speaker 9 (01:37:23):
Wait to go have fun playing the Ryder Cup, and
I you know.

Speaker 15 (01:37:28):
I can't help believe it's just not quite the same
for I mean, Scotti Scheffer's.

Speaker 12 (01:37:32):
Number one player in the world.

Speaker 9 (01:37:33):
Yeah, and it's like.

Speaker 15 (01:37:35):
He should be dominating, you know when he plays in this,
But again it's.

Speaker 9 (01:37:38):
A different level of pressure.

Speaker 15 (01:37:39):
It's I don't think Scotty's having as much fun as
he does when he's killing everybody on the regular tour
right there.

Speaker 14 (01:37:46):
And so to me, the match play stuff like you're just.

Speaker 12 (01:37:49):
Talking about those guys that who live for that have
fun with that.

Speaker 15 (01:37:53):
And then after the fact they have a beer together
or beer when they were kids obviously put a coke together,
and and and.

Speaker 12 (01:37:59):
And cut up and have fun with it.

Speaker 15 (01:38:00):
I just don't think that we we do that as
much as we should. Again, it's all about making it
fun as in addition to competing and then living to compete.
And I tell you what, for whatever reason, when you
put Ryder Cup logos on their shirts, it's just a
different level of competition for these guys.

Speaker 9 (01:38:17):
They just they just can't wait. And so I'm at.

Speaker 15 (01:38:20):
A loss for kind of you know why that doesn't
fire us up as well? Rut there, you would think
having Michael Jordan in the team room talking to you.

Speaker 14 (01:38:28):
Who's the greatest competitor of all time?

Speaker 15 (01:38:31):
That that would that would fire these guys up and
and and and help them.

Speaker 9 (01:38:35):
But it you know, you don't need to help at
the moment.

Speaker 1 (01:38:38):
Honestly, no, I don't. I don't think having Michael Jordan
come in and talk to those guys did did much
of anything. Honestly. Michael Jordan's older Michael Jordan. You know,
he might have been able to inspire a college team
or maybe a high school team, but I at at
the level of golf those guys play, I don't think

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he's much of a factor at all.

Speaker 15 (01:39:03):
Well, he, like I said, grace better of all time,
and most of these guys are wearing his stuff. They're
wearing his shoes on the golf course. I mean, Ke
Bradley is in there wearing Air Jordan's, you know, on
the on the golf course and whatnot. So clearly you
know they're just trying to find some kind of inspiration,
and I, you know.

Speaker 14 (01:39:22):
Yeah, as an instructor, I would just say.

Speaker 15 (01:39:23):
Look, I mean, your game hasn't changed, you don't look
different than you normally do.

Speaker 12 (01:39:28):
Let's just let's just try to go there and have fun.

Speaker 15 (01:39:30):
I mean, God forbid you yuck it up with the
with the European guys and and and and have a good.

Speaker 9 (01:39:35):
Time and and joke around.

Speaker 15 (01:39:37):
I mean, I know that the key with competitive golf
is to figure out kind of how you tick.

Speaker 9 (01:39:43):
And these guys know how they tick. They're smart. Do
I need to talk a lot? Do I need to
be quiet? Do I need to just hang.

Speaker 14 (01:39:49):
With my caddy whatever it is right there to kind.

Speaker 9 (01:39:51):
Of help get the best out of you? And I
just for whatever reason, they don't on a.

Speaker 15 (01:39:55):
Different track when when when it's the Ryder Cup time
and again, there's so much more pressure.

Speaker 9 (01:40:00):
On us to win it. I think because.

Speaker 15 (01:40:02):
Even though the Europeans seem to be favored, they're never
like touted as the as the as they well they should.

Speaker 9 (01:40:09):
Win, you know they're they're not.

Speaker 15 (01:40:11):
They're still the underdog, even though they've they've won I
mean a ton of the last Ryder Cups in the
last few years and whatnot. And again they just just
have more fun doing it.

Speaker 1 (01:40:20):
Seems like, last quick question, do you think we'll see
Scheffler and McElroy paired tomorrow?

Speaker 3 (01:40:26):
And how Bryce?

Speaker 15 (01:40:29):
I would love to see Bryson, d Chambeau and McElroy
because those guys have history and Bryson is not the
back down type. He he's a he is not and
we know those guys pretty much hate each other from
the from the back and forth that they have and
that's what you know.

Speaker 9 (01:40:49):
That would get Bryson going.

Speaker 12 (01:40:51):
Uh, for sure.

Speaker 9 (01:40:52):
I think it would.

Speaker 1 (01:40:52):
It would.

Speaker 15 (01:40:53):
It would maybe even mess with with Roy a little
bit because Roy just does not like playing with Bryson.
And uh, there's not many guys as they can out
drive Rory, but but but Bryson can.

Speaker 1 (01:41:02):
Yeah, that's a good point. That might get it here. Yeah,
that might get it. That's a great one. I'm looking
at the scoreboard right now. We're we're down three to
one right now and halfway through. Basically Fitzpatrick and Oberg, Well,
Deshamba and Young are three up on that crew and
they're already through fourteen. But the rest of the rest

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of the card is blue. Man, we got to get
some points.

Speaker 9 (01:41:27):
Well, no doubt. It's amazing.

Speaker 15 (01:41:30):
Like I said, to look at the Europeans, they just
have a different vibe in this event versus like a
Major versus a Major. I don't see the joviality that
I see with these guys during the Ryder Cup, and
they really embrace the team portion. Of and it just
it just goes to show you that, like you said earlier,
that's a big part of their junior their junior golf

(01:41:51):
and coming up, that they're used to to that, and
they live for it almost more so than the individual stuff,
you know, and I get at the individual accolades or
or or are more fun to get, you know, and whatnot,
But they just seem to live for the team aspect
of it, and they clearly have a good time while
they're doing it.

Speaker 1 (01:42:11):
Good point. Yeah, all right, pardon, well, thanks man, I
may see you this afternoon.

Speaker 2 (01:42:16):
Who appreciate it?

Speaker 9 (01:42:18):
Yes, you got work on that. We'll work on that
move again.

Speaker 1 (01:42:22):
As soon as I get over being sore from doing
it the first time.

Speaker 12 (01:42:25):
All right, No, good, that's a good thing for Yeah.

Speaker 1 (01:42:29):
I'm moving. I'm moving the right stuff. Then, Thanks Tommy,
Thank you, sir.

Speaker 3 (01:42:34):
Okay, bye bye bye bye.

Speaker 1 (01:42:36):
Tommy O'Brien out there at Blackhall Country Club. Lessons available anytime,
go to Tommy o golf dot com. Good guy really
is man named one of the top instructors in the
entire state of Texas by Golf Digest this year. By
the way, and that's an accolade that he has long
deserved and finally got. I was really really happy and

(01:42:57):
proud for him. I've known him since he was a
pup in this game, and he has emerged to be
one of the best, as I kind of always knew
he would. We'll take a little break here if you
are interested. I'm gonna tell you one more time about
Kobe Stevens Golf. I'm gonna every chance I get, And

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Kobe Stevens has the apparel that I wear most of
the time out there on the golf course that a
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and not just in golf, but in the outdoors too,
And they have sizes for everybody, from little bitty kids
all the way up to four X. He could pitch
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But you're gonna look good no matter who you are,
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He's the trendsetter in this business. And you go look
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(01:44:43):
Thank you for listening. I'm gonna tee up this sum
I'm gonna go to where did it go? I'm gonna
go find I want to see what that beach front
looks like this morning. I'm gonna go to scroll down
a little bit, get on the saltwater recons and see
what's up. I use surf side as my barometer tides out,

(01:45:07):
but the water is really pretty looking there's the glare
on it. I wish somebody would grab this camera and
move it over a little bit because the glare is
pretty bright. I'll go to a different camera and see
if I can't get a better look. Definitely, you know
what I want to do more than anything else. I'm
gonna go to the tides. I want to see if
there's a shot at an afternoon bite.

Speaker 2 (01:45:29):
Yeah.

Speaker 1 (01:45:30):
I kind of like this low tide is at twelve
forty six today. Okay, you got an incoming tide all
the way until ten fifty six tonight, So a good
solid incoming tide this afternoon. If that water is as
clean as I think it might be, that wouldn't be
a bad time to be down there. I've always been

(01:45:50):
somebody who gung ho, let's go and get down there
and just grind at the crack of dawn. But I've
learned over the time that I've spent down there at
that beach front that the afternoon by it can be
just as good. There's a bunch of people on the
sixty first Street pier. I don't see them doing much

(01:46:11):
and nothing, and the water looks a little off color there.
I'm not so sure why it would be except for
that low, low tide. I'm gonna try and get one
more camera real quick before I move on. I'm gonna
go to oh wait a minute, I'm gonna go to
the nineties street pier if I can get this thing
to scroll up for me. There we go, ninety first Street,

(01:46:33):
the old the big Pier. Ah bad cam wrangle again.
I can't tell what the color is on the water,
but I would think that good water would push onto
the beach if the wind stays as light as it
is and has been most of the morning. I would
hope anyway. Seven one three two one two five seven

(01:46:54):
ninety Email me Dougpike at iHeartMedia dot com. Let's go
talk to Galveston or to Robert down there. He'll know
Robert what's going on down there? Man? How's the water look?

Speaker 9 (01:47:05):
Oh?

Speaker 13 (01:47:06):
Morning, my friend?

Speaker 17 (01:47:07):
Man, it is looking nice and calm in the light
light breeze, but uh, not too shabby. Plenty of boats
out back right now, so hopefully somebody's doing good.

Speaker 1 (01:47:17):
I'll bet have you have you seen the beach front
yet this morning at all?

Speaker 3 (01:47:20):
Or no?

Speaker 9 (01:47:21):
Uh?

Speaker 17 (01:47:21):
Actually no, I had, but the last couple of days, man,
it looked I mean, last time I actually looked at
it looked really good.

Speaker 1 (01:47:28):
Man, water was green. That's all I'm looking for.

Speaker 17 (01:47:31):
But I know it's been it's been beautiful. So hey, man,
I was giving you a call because I saw something the.

Speaker 1 (01:47:38):
Other day and I was like, I need to call
Doug and ask.

Speaker 3 (01:47:40):
Him about this.

Speaker 17 (01:47:41):
I was I saw this this little video of this
guy talking about you know how guys are when you're
out in the boat and it's like you see some
some birds and you're like, hey, I got to go
gotta go hit where those birds are at, because obviously
there's either some data around or some game fish whatever.
But the guy was talking about you can tell instantly

(01:48:01):
the difference between if there's maybe.

Speaker 14 (01:48:04):
Specks or bigger fish.

Speaker 17 (01:48:05):
Around that the birds are you know, uh, swimming around
with the bait, or if it's just a bunch of
like gaff top. And what he was talking about was
basically like if you're watching like seagulls diving straight in
right just you no, diving right into the water, then
then he's like, that's a real good sign that there's

(01:48:26):
like speckled trout around and you want to go fish that.

Speaker 14 (01:48:30):
And he says if you see them like basically.

Speaker 17 (01:48:32):
Swooping on top of the water and not really going in,
but just kind of swooping them coming back up, he
goes a pretty good sign I's left up.

Speaker 9 (01:48:39):
A gaf top around there. I've never heard that, But
I've never heard that.

Speaker 1 (01:48:45):
I don't know. I never have either. I never have
either one. Okay, I mean, seagulls are they're they're they'll
feed however wherever, whenever. If if there's something pushing shrimp
to the top, right, they're probably gonna be a little bit,
a little bit more kind of skimming than diving. But

(01:49:07):
if they're working glass minnows or little men hating or
something like that, maybe they're doing something different. But I
don't know that that's gonna tell you as much about
what's underneath them. Now, if you're not seeing a lot
of little blow ups on top where the actual trout,
I would think that trout would be more inclined to

(01:49:28):
come all the way to the surface to feed like that.
But the gaftop are doing the same thing. They're pushing
the bait up so they might make a splash too.
I've never heard that. And man, if one of my
guy buddies is listening right now and can set me
straight and tell me I'm wrong. I'll believe them. But
I think that guy's full of blooney.

Speaker 4 (01:49:48):
I mean, like I said, I had never heard it either.

Speaker 17 (01:49:50):
But I mean, you know, when I'm out back and
doing a little fishing, and I'll see you know, I mean,
it's usually a couple of times a week.

Speaker 14 (01:49:57):
Man, I'll just see.

Speaker 17 (01:49:58):
They go flock of birds and they'll go I'm running
through and and it just I mean, and you'll see
the blow ups coming out of the water, and then
it's like, okay. I mean most of the time that
I've seen it close enough and I've been able to
maybe even toss the line as far out as I could.
Usually I might use a spoon or something to get
far out there.

Speaker 3 (01:50:14):
Yeah.

Speaker 17 (01:50:15):
Then it's been a lot more ladyfish, yeah, tearing up
the bait ladies, which I don't mind casual lady fish
because they's just bigger than for me.

Speaker 12 (01:50:25):
But you know they're fun.

Speaker 3 (01:50:27):
Right.

Speaker 8 (01:50:27):
But all right, buddy, Well I'll tell you.

Speaker 1 (01:50:31):
Before I let you go. When I was down there
doing the fly Fishing Festival last year, I was looking
out of my window from Moody Gardens back over off
its file and there were birds just banging the surface
out there, and I couldn't tell what it was, and
I could see little splashes under them, but it's a
pretty good distance to where they were. And I called

(01:50:51):
James Fogg and asked him. I said, man, what's going
on in office right now? What what is that? Because
I've seen a few boats go by but they're not stopping.
And he said, oh, they're just on little shad. It's
just it's nothing, and it's a lot.

Speaker 9 (01:51:04):
There's a lot of that.

Speaker 1 (01:51:06):
Yeah, yeah, And I would have thought that, you know,
if it had been you and me in a boat,
we'd have stopped and we'd have tried to fish. But
he and he'd just wave. He just drove right by
some wave. Yeah, you're not gonna catch a thing. So
that's that's that's why I have his phone to remember
my phone. Stupid stud all right, man, Yeah, good to
hear from your Roberts. Too long, man, I'll see. But yeah,

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sometimes it's not what you think it is. I don't
think and I and I've never heard anybody talk about
how they were gonna be absolutely sure whether it's trout
or redfish or gaff top blowing up on top and
having the birds working whatever they miss. I've just never

(01:51:53):
heard that, and maybe that I wasn't standing in the
right place to hear it. But if somebody else can
can tell me how I'm wrong, I'll believe them. Somebody
qualified can tell me that, I'll believe them. I may
try and call James real quick. See I don't know
if he's fishing today or not, but I'll call him
during the break and see what he says. On the
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Show on Sports Talk seven ninety nine thirty five. Already,
Holy cow, let's see how the Americans are doing over
there at the Ryder Cup where that course, by the way.

(01:54:00):
In addition, just having brutal rough which all of these
courses set up for any big event like this. They
ought to be set up tough. These are supposed to
be the best players in the world and they need
to show it, and they're doing that. The Europeans are anyway.
Our guys are not doing any better than they were
a little while ago. Really. McElroy and Fleetwood are up

(01:54:23):
three through fourteen over English and Morikawa, rom Manhattan up
two over Shaffley and kant Ley through twelve mcintyren Hobland
up one on Henley and Scheffler through twelve holes as well,
and then on our side, the only red number on

(01:54:45):
the board for US is to Shambeau and Young and
they are three up over Fitzpatrick and Oberg who have
to win sixteen. Yeah, they've got to win sixteen to
keep playing. So that's where we stand at present. If
the matches matches ended right now, we'd be down eight

(01:55:08):
and a half to eight and a half to three
and a half. That wouldn't be a very favorable position.
I hope that at least one of those other matches,
one of the matches we're losing right now, maybe maybe
Henley and Scheffler can get started somehow and at least
scrape out a win over McIntyre and Hoveland. They've they've

(01:55:30):
got six holes left to take care of that. There's
Tommy Fleetwood firing into fifteen Let's see what it looks like. Yeah,
about fifteen feet. Not bad. These to their credit, these
guys are They're throwing darts on both sides. The English
darts are landing a little closer than the American darts,

(01:55:50):
I guess is a good way to put it. But
they'll figure it out. They'll figure it out. By the way,
I just heard from Chris Hodges a little while ago
by text. He's listening. He's up there in New York.
He lives within probably seven iron distance depending on who
you are. He lives that close to Bethpage Black and

(01:56:12):
so he's here in the cheering. He's got all of
that going on for him. If he's at the house,
he may be working this morning. He's got the show
coming up after mine here. So I didn't even think
about that. Let me I sent an email. Let me
get here and see if this is from James. No,
that's from somebody else. That's an email. I sent an
email to James Flogger, or a text message to James

(01:56:34):
to find out whether or not there was any truth
to what was said about the difference between birds working
gafftop and birds working trout. I'd been around for a
hot minute, and I don't recall ever hearing somebody so
definitively say that this is how you can tell. I've

(01:56:54):
been surprised a number of times by both. There have
been times when I I've been fishing with some of
the best guides on the Bay system and we pull
up on some birds and we're thinking their trout and
they turn out to be gaff top, or we pull
up on some birds and we're thinking they're gaf top,
but they turn out to be trout. And a lot
of times there's a little everything in there. Sometimes you'll

(01:57:20):
throw the dart out there and it lands on the
board and a red fish eats it. If you'll especially
if you throw a bigger jig and let it drop
out to the perimeter kind of where the real action is.
I will say this that I'm pretty confident in saying
there are typically a few bigger fish deeper because they're

(01:57:43):
a little calmer. They're not as in a big hurry
when this is going on, When one of these big
feeding frenzies is going on, especially if they're eating any
kind of a fish, they just kind of hang out
a little deeper and wait for the wounded whatever is
to fall down. There's the end of the match. Okay,
we've got the point for Deshamba and young and back

(01:58:06):
to what I was talking about with the birds. So
if you want to try to find a bigger fish,
if it's down there, use a heavier jig head and
maybe throw kind of to the edge of all the
main activity and get it down there where that bigger
fish can think something fell through the little ones and
is coming his way.

Speaker 4 (01:58:25):
Now.

Speaker 1 (01:58:26):
It may be it may be a big trout, it
may be a big red, maybe a big gaf top,
all of which are going to be inclined to be
a little bit deeper typically, but at least it might
be something better than a twelve inch trout, because there's
a bunch of those that there's a whole lot of
whole lot of twelve inch trout that get caught by
people thinking they can if they just catch enough of

(01:58:47):
those twelve inch ones and they'll get a twenty four
out of the same little school of fish. If you
catch the first if the first three underbirds are shorter
than fifteen inches, you might as well just because the
rest of them are going to be that way too.
Let me get Bob real quick for after you go
to this break, Bob, what's up, my friend?

Speaker 11 (01:59:08):
Well?

Speaker 3 (01:59:08):
Not much.

Speaker 18 (01:59:09):
How are you doing this morning?

Speaker 1 (01:59:10):
I'm doing all right, man, I got a couple of
cups of coffee in me. I'm going, Oh good.

Speaker 18 (01:59:17):
You know, I used to do a lot of fishing,
and we worked the birds a lot. But maybe I
just got lucky or not, but I always found it
work in the verge if i'd work the edges the
bigger fish for there. Did you ever find that?

Speaker 3 (01:59:31):
Or is that just what you know?

Speaker 1 (01:59:33):
While you were being screened by Frankie, I was talking
exactly about that. Yeah, those bigger fish have a little
more experience, and they know how much energy it takes
to race around and chase shrimp in circles, and so
they'll just they'll sit down deeper and on the edges
and pick off whatever kind of comes fluttering down that

(01:59:53):
got hammered but didn't die and didn't get picked off.

Speaker 3 (01:59:57):
Yeah.

Speaker 1 (01:59:57):
Absolutely, one hundred percent agree with you on that.

Speaker 18 (02:00:01):
Yeah, that's what I always found and uh, we had
one that always been several years ago. But I'll guarantee
you there was eight to ten flocks of birds and
we didn't even have enough boats to follow up. Wow, man,
we had a ball.

Speaker 1 (02:00:18):
Good for you.

Speaker 18 (02:00:18):
But you know we used to We used to fish
with Cohen Park. I think that's what it was. And
I can remember I can remember Doug with There'd be
fifty guys in a row and every one of us
catching fish.

Speaker 1 (02:00:32):
Wow.

Speaker 18 (02:00:33):
And there was there was something that. Yeah, something happened
after a hurricane and I just missed everything up down
there and they got it. So you can't park in
the park anymore. You have to park outside. And guys
were getting their trucks broke into and everything fishing there.

(02:00:56):
I got to tell you one quick story and then
get out of here. My dad, he you know, he
lived in Ohio. He come down to fish with me
one time and first time he fish for a spickled trout.
He lipped a speckled trout.

Speaker 1 (02:01:11):
First and last time he did that.

Speaker 18 (02:01:13):
I'll bet I haven't talked to you for a while,
but I enjoyed the show.

Speaker 1 (02:01:22):
I am glad to hear from you, Bob anytime, buddy.
Let's see you man, you take care of uh huh,
all right, let's take a break. Holy cow. Yeah, you
don't want to lip there. There are a few fish
that you can lip in salt water and not get
a tooth in your thumb. And I'm I'm trying to

(02:01:45):
think maybe a croaker, even a big red fish. He's
got kind of a rough mouth like a bass. It
doesn't have teeth per se, but it's got a really
rough mouth, and they're really strong, and they will beat
you senseless if you try to pick them up by
the mouth. That's not a very good idea. Definitely don't
do it with a trout. Definitely, don't do it with

(02:02:06):
a flounder. Definitely don't do it with a Spanish mackerel.
If you have some reason to want to hoist a ladyfish,
then by all means, go ahead. They don't have anything
that's gonna tear you up. But other than that, be
real careful. Some of the offshore species, a lot of
the species that eat fish whole tend to have some

(02:02:29):
teeth because they got to get it in their mouth
first and grab onto it and kind of slow it
down at least so they can turn it around and
eat it head first. It's kind of hard for him
to catch a fish head first, so they gotta grab it.
They gotta shake it around and then eventually spin it
around and by spitting it out and then grabbing it

(02:02:50):
back in head first, and that's how it goes down smoothly.
Otherwise they'd have a hard time eating. Let me tell
you about berry Hill. Berry Hill Restaurant is out there
in Sugarland, berry Hill Baja Grill, the full name is.
It's on the fifty nine theater at Sugar Creek Boulevard

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on the inbound side, on the northbound side, and I've
been eating there for a better part of twenty five
out of thirty years, however long they've been there. I've
been eating there because my wife and I moved out
there a very long time ago and have been going
and going and going ever since. Some of the best
fish tacos you'll ever put in your mouth. I'm partial
also to the seafood enchiladas. My wife likes the chicken tacos,

(02:03:36):
and pretty much everything on the menu that I've tried
certainly has been outstanding. The two people in the kitchen.
The two primary people in the kitchen now they're head chefs,
if you will, are both ten year or better employees
putting out a delicious text mechs kind of yeah, that's
what it is, traditional textmex food. And it's great, absolutely great.

(02:04:00):
They'll cater all over town. But it's really fun to
take the whole family over there. To the left as
you walk in is kind of family dining tables and
booths that the right is a sports bar that's not rowdy,
but they're a little they're a little bit louder than
the folks on that site on the other side. And
then there's outdoor dining too, which is gonna be really
nice for the next four or five nights if you

(02:04:20):
want that experience. Like I said, catering all over town.
We've got a meal coming our way next week. I'm
not sure what day. I can't remember exactly which one
it is, but I'm gonna darn sure be here for
that one. Sugarland very fun. If you've never been there,
go if you have, you know what I'm talking about.
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(02:04:47):
seven to ninety, the Doug Pike Show. Thank you for listening.
Let me go talk to Steve for a minute. He yeah,
I think I know what's on his mind. I saw
an email I think it was from him earlier. Steve,
what's up, man.

Speaker 4 (02:05:00):
Just trying to I've been teal hotting this morning, so
I had been listening. Sorry, I'm just I just wonder
where you've been hearing about the teal hunting.

Speaker 3 (02:05:07):
It's been kind of spotty.

Speaker 1 (02:05:09):
You know. I got a report from out your way
earlier from somebody I think I can't remember, another Steve
I believe it is, who said he was sending me
a picture of a snake. He said, the only teal
he'd seen this morning. We're at about fourteen thousand feet.

Speaker 4 (02:05:26):
Well, where I was at Lissie, there was uh, we
saw a few groups of teal, but there was zero wind.

Speaker 1 (02:05:34):
Yeah, that doesn't help, have it.

Speaker 4 (02:05:36):
I didn't have a jerk string, and they you know,
they weren't thirty thousand feet, but they were your feet
up and they kind of went by and looked and
they said those looked like plastic ducks to me.

Speaker 1 (02:05:47):
Yeah, it's hard, man, when you got no breeze on
on a pond. And that the ducks would know better
than that even tell that. Gummt, that's too bad.

Speaker 4 (02:05:58):
Maybe tomorrow, huh yeah, maybe to morrow, last day tomorrow, Yeah, yeah, yeah,
dangle nine day season.

Speaker 1 (02:06:06):
Yeah, I hope we can kind of get around that
next year there. We at some point somebody's gonna have
to do something about how all these ducks come through
here and we've got the limit of six a day
and we can only hunt them for nine days or
sixteen days whatever. And then they they crossed the Rio
Grande and it's just Katie bar the door. They shoot
so many ducks down there, and it's the same ducks.

(02:06:29):
It's very frustrated. And yeah, yeah, there's a lot of
it down there too.

Speaker 4 (02:06:35):
And that because they're about about a week before the
season started. My times were full and then they got
they just got up and left m.

Speaker 2 (02:06:46):
So, yeah, you can't hold here now.

Speaker 4 (02:06:51):
If it should have been earlier in the month or later,
I know that's a big discussion. And yeah, fellows down
to South Texas want it later and people in North
Texas want sooner.

Speaker 1 (02:07:01):
And you know, if we do it any sooner here,
we run the risk of not having a single cold
front when it starts. Well we didn't have much. We
had enough to get them moving. Uh but and they're
not gonna stay up north forever. But still you run
the That's one of the reasons I kind of like
the two week season because then you've you've got a

(02:07:22):
little you've got a bigger window obviously for him to
fly through. But if they man and if they don't
find what they're looking for here, they're it's gonna keep
bouncing and go find go till they do. We're not
gonna scare them with cold in our climate, not this
time of year.

Speaker 4 (02:07:37):
So what do you think is gonna happen with the surveys?

Speaker 3 (02:07:39):
Now?

Speaker 4 (02:07:40):
I know the president administration has cut back funding for surveys.

Speaker 3 (02:07:44):
And all that.

Speaker 4 (02:07:45):
You think it's gonna they're just gonna keep living with
this survey they have this couple of years old now
or is it gonna go back to sixteen? Or do
we any chance or.

Speaker 1 (02:07:56):
I don't know, you know, we've got a chance I
think to get it back. I really do. And I
don't think that surveys are gonna go away because you
have to have some some baseline on which to create
your season linked and bag limit. But they may be
they may be reduced in scope a little bit. And

(02:08:17):
I'm sure, just just thinking about how government works. No
matter what, it could probably be done more efficiently that
it's being done now. So once those herders are crossed,
maybe will be okay. But they're not gonna. I don't
think they'll abandon this waterfowl. Waterfowl numbers are too important
to too many people, and especially when you start looking

(02:08:38):
at the upper ranks of du and whatnot, there's some
pretty influential people in there who are gonna make sure
those ducks get taken care of.

Speaker 3 (02:08:48):
Well, that gives me hope.

Speaker 1 (02:08:50):
Then, yeah, I wouldn't give up. I wouldn't. I wouldn't
sell my shotgun yet, Steve, Okay.

Speaker 4 (02:08:57):
I'm too addicted to do that.

Speaker 1 (02:08:59):
Oh I know, man, Holy cow. The only question is
how many more decoys can you stuff in your attic
and your garage?

Speaker 4 (02:09:05):
You know, I thought last year I had problems coins,
so I bought a whole new pile of him for
this year.

Speaker 1 (02:09:13):
The Lord, oh my gosh, bigger and better man.

Speaker 4 (02:09:20):
Bigger and better than more. Like you always say, you
can't have enough equipment.

Speaker 1 (02:09:24):
Absolutely no, you just have a story. At some point
you just have a storage problem.

Speaker 4 (02:09:31):
I'm there.

Speaker 1 (02:09:32):
Oh, I've been there, man, I lived there. Thanks, that's
great to hear from you. Yeah, good luck, audios. Dad,
don't be a stranger callback sometime. All right, man, all right, Yeah,
that's you know, that's a guy who's frustrated because he
didn't have a good teal season because it went too fast.

(02:09:52):
It just went too fast. Nine days is not enough.
And I don't know that. You know, they run these
things based on numbers of that are you're you're trying
to count things that fly. And if you're doing little
airplane surveys and you fly over a spot and you

(02:10:12):
see a bunch of birds and they fly away, which
they'll do when that little airplane's coming at them, then
you run the risk of either having you end up
counting those same birds again when you go to the
next grid and that's where those birds happen to go,
or you run them out of there before you can
get any kind of an accurate count. It's it's better

(02:10:37):
and easier than counting fish, but it's still a pretty
inefficient way to do it. When you when you really
think of what's at stake, I tend to I'm glad
we got the pintail thing bounced back up to a
third pintail this year. I think that's gonna that's gonna
make duck hunting and goose hunting actually a little more

(02:11:01):
fun because that. I go all the way back to
the days when a pintail was a ten point duck
and a hundred point bag. And there were days when
on that Katie Prairie it wasn't hard to go out
there with three hunters or four hunters and me and
come back with fifty big old pintails. You know, most

(02:11:22):
of them drakes, except for the ones the clients couldn't
tell the difference on. Yeah, it was a lot of fun,
and it still is. I still love a good duck hunt.
The last time I went, I just every time I've
gone lately because I don't get to go as much
as I used to. But every time I go, it's
just it's so exciting to me to start hearing birds
coming off of roosts and seeing ducks in the air

(02:11:44):
and getting to work them and just have all that
good fun. Holy cow, we gotta go. Coming up next,
Sports Investors Daily with Chris Hodge. You'll be on for
an hour and I will be back in here tomorrow
morning at day hope you can join me again. Thank
you all for listening. Audios MHM,

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