September 14, 2025 • 13 mins
Originally aired on September 14th, 2025. Doug's exhilarating interview with Captain Scott Null, for your listening pleasure.
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Speaker 1 (00:00):
Well, welcome back the Doug Pike Show on Sports Talk
at seven ninety this Sunday morning, A beautiful Sunday morning.
As a matter of fact, I am going to push
this magic button now and bring up Captain Scott. No,
Captain Scott, what's going on?
Speaker 2 (00:13):
Man ah must's day?
Speaker 1 (00:16):
What's the buzz?
Speaker 2 (00:17):
Scott?
Speaker 1 (00:19):
I'm gonna lay them on you all the way through.
Speaker 2 (00:22):
I don't know if those were African or French or
Italian or you.
Speaker 1 (00:26):
Hear a car?
Speaker 2 (00:27):
I didn't, you know, I didn't hear any accents, not
what ye I don't know if.
Speaker 1 (00:32):
You could buzz with an accent. You just wanted to
get away from.
Speaker 2 (00:35):
Him, uh mans I can tell you that, Lee.
Speaker 1 (00:40):
So what were you doing when this happened?
Speaker 2 (00:43):
I was on a zero turn mower, Oh okay, mowing
around the edge of some thick brush. I take care
of about three hundred acres next door to me, and
they're just don't what to do, you know, just you know,
I'm mowing, and you know me, I'm outside all day
every day doing something. You know, Camill will asks, you know,
(01:03):
like a little kid, don't come in until the lights
come on. But I was just mowing along there, and
I mean, I get hit by wasp all the time.
It's it's not unusual for me to get popped by
a wasp. You know, I had you know, they don't
bother me that much. You know the thing, you know
that it hurts. I got sung on forearm as I
(01:24):
was mowing up around some oak trees, and you know,
just kind of brushed it off and went to move
out of there because you know, I don't want to
get hit it anymore. I figured I got a nest
to sure close by. Usually what I do is I
pull out, I stop, I turn around and look and
see see where the nest is, and then take care
of that little washpbray. But as I was brushing that
(01:47):
one off, I didn't get a chance to see it.
And then all of a sudden my whole head was attacked.
I mean just a solid, buzzing attack on top of
my head, my ears, all over my face, my shoulders.
Good lord, they were just they were all over me.
(02:08):
So I hit I hit the go button on the
zero turn and took off the fast and go of
co'se sitting fast enough to get away from the bees.
But I was still thinking why, you know, because I
mean it was you know, just kind of close your
eyes and go it stinging your eyes. One got me
on the eyelid. But I got out of that and
they were still on me, and then you know, then
(02:31):
it starts hitting you. Okay, these are bees. Uh turned
the motor off, you know, So I shut the shut
the mower down and got off of it to get
away from the mower. Thinking right, and you know they're
they're mad about that, that moor engine and now they
were mad at me, and I took off run. I
(02:51):
didn't run like that since I was on the police department. Man.
I took off and headed for the house. Uh. They've
got a big shop over there, and I was probably
two hundred yards away. Wow, and I'm sprinting over there
to the shop and they're still on me. And they
followed me all the way to the shop, all over
(03:12):
my neck everywhere I got there. And you know, Josie,
my lab pop. She and so she lays in the
shop and she was in there asleep, and she sees
me coming. She jumps up and hey, it's time to play,
you know. And I took off with her, hollered at her,
and of course she's she's really good about, you know, commands,
(03:33):
and following me. I said, come on, let's go, and
ran in. There's a storage place inside the shop, you know,
a little closed in closet mark closet thing, and we
ran for that closet and I made it inside the closet,
got the door closed with me and her in there,
and one bee got in and I managed to take
(03:55):
care of that one and me and are sat in
there for about fifteen twenty minutes. My head was on fire,
dude on the shirt. And we waited a little bit
and came back out and there was one buzz in
here or there, but they were all, you know, they'd
kind of left and went home. And I waited a little,
you know, waited about an hour, went back over there
(04:18):
to look just to see, you know, see where the
hive was, and saw them all buzzing around the trees
and stuff. So I didn't I didn't venture back in
or anything. I just wanted to locate it.
Speaker 1 (04:31):
Good call.
Speaker 2 (04:31):
God, I never saw the hive. I just saw them
all buzzing around those trees, and so I called they
that ranch. They have an exterminator that comes out and
takes care of the house. And the barn and stuff.
So I called David and he said, I can be
out there tomorrow. So I'm busy today. They can't be
up there tomorrow. So I met him the next morning
(04:52):
and we went out there and eased around and it
was kind of calm that morning, so we just got
up near those trees and stopped and didn't not see
a single bee. Didn't hear yeah, usually you can hear
a hog. Yeah yeah. And we sat there for thirty
forty five minutes hour, walked all around that edge and looked.
The only thing we can come up with is maybe
(05:13):
that was a swarm. It was just moving, Yeah, that
was moving through and they just stationed there for the afternoon.
I don't know whatever it was. And like I said,
I can't say for certain it was Africanized bees, but
the way they acted and the way they chased me,
I mean, they did not give up. They were on
(05:34):
me the whole way.
Speaker 1 (05:35):
What Carl said that there's Africanization within their DNA now
to varying degrees and mostly just a little bit. But
if it's in that DNA and you're standing in the
wrong place, they're gonna zap you.
Speaker 2 (05:48):
Man. Holy cow.
Speaker 1 (05:49):
Yeah, a lot of fun do they have if they
have a natural enemy, Scott, maybe you should consider mowing
wearing a yellow jacket.
Speaker 2 (05:57):
That's another Well, they say that the true Africanized ones
they can sing multiple times. Yeah, without even the stinger.
Speaker 1 (06:07):
Oh my god.
Speaker 2 (06:07):
Well, there was a whole bunch of stings that didn't
have you know, the stones were released, interesting, all behind
my ears and all my cheek, and then I probably
had I don't know, probably a dozen or so stingers
that were still in me. Good lord, and I got,
you know, picking those out, and I had to get
(06:29):
Camill to get some of them when she got home.
She was she was out of town when it happened.
She got home, and some of them I couldn't I
couldn't see all that well because yeah, they were, they
were in my eye glasses on. I couldn't get to them.
Speaker 1 (06:43):
Understand that. Let's get out of these bees for a minute. Okay,
let's go to something a little more happy. How's your
fishing been, man, it's been really good.
Speaker 2 (06:53):
August was incredible because when had wind. Yeah, it was
just it was dead wind less than ten miles an hour,
day after day after day. So I spent every day
I could out on the beach front. Jason Tarpin. I
just found the mother load of tarping, of course, and
then I way on down the beach, you know, probably
(07:14):
I don't know, twenty five miles down. Yeah, had just
found them. Uh. We were kind of hanging out out there,
me and two or three other boats, and they just
would not eat. I mean, I'll send you pictures of
my graph. The graph was full of fish for like
three or four hours, and we were in sixteen to
twenty feet of water and they were just everywhere. Even
(07:36):
the guys that you know, my guy was fly fishing,
so oh that's tough. He was, you know, he's blind
casting and with a sinking line and letting it go.
And but the guys that were around me, they were
trolling coon pops and they only got one. They jumped one.
Speaker 1 (07:52):
Were they moving, were they moving or were they just
sitting they rested?
Speaker 2 (07:56):
They were just hanging out. Wow. And like I said,
six to twenty foot of water and they were anywhere
from ten feet to the bottom, just colid tarping go. Yeah.
Then of course the very next day the wind start blowing,
of course, straight out of the east where it makes
it really hard to get down there and get back
down the beach and get straight down the beach. But
(08:19):
since then it's it's blown pretty good. Most days it's
not terrible. You know, they're not talking you twenty twenty
five or anything, but anything over you know, twelve fourteen
makes that beach kind of choppy. And what I found
is the white Caps start at about twelve miles an
hour roughly, And when the white Caps start up, that
(08:41):
makes it so hard to find those fish. You can't
see them roll right. When it's calm, you're you know,
I'm running down the beach. I got that top drive.
I can be up there ill I see tarping a
quarter half a mile. But when it gets choppy, your
head just starts spinning in every direction. Because every day
white Wall looked like a tarping.
Speaker 1 (09:02):
I'm looking at Port O'Connor right now. You only got
ten miles an hour. It's out of the east.
Speaker 2 (09:05):
Still. Yeah, it's not bad today, yeah, yeah. And the day,
of course, was the day that I didn't have a trip.
Speaker 1 (09:11):
You probably don't feel like going today anyway.
Speaker 2 (09:14):
Now I'm all right nothing. I took a bunch of
better drill and we got some sleep. And the swelling's
pretty much gone down. So now I'm back on tractor today.
I get some stuff done. I got some trips coming up.
Speaker 1 (09:28):
We'll stay out of the bushes.
Speaker 2 (09:29):
We're supposed to blow this week. So I don't know.
Speaker 1 (09:32):
Do you run into Repish schools down there this time
of year.
Speaker 2 (09:36):
I haven't this year. Those years I do quite often. Yeah,
we'll see, you know, the big giant schools, but this
year just hadn't seen them. It really hadn't seen a
lot of them around the jetties either. We had a
whole bunch of guides down here over the last several
(09:56):
years that were taking out you know, corporate trips and
the once a year fishermen, and they were using their
tags consistently every day, and I think that that kind
of put a little dent in some of our bull
rid down here that have But they're usually they're mixed
in with the jacks at the jetty, you know, we'll
(10:17):
see them mixed together, and it really hadn't seen a
whole lot of them. A lot of jacks, some monster jacks, boy,
but very few redfish mixed in with them. I do
see some stuff down deep when I'm seeing that that
could be could be bull rigs, and I've got some
some those slow fall jigs and I got some rigs
(10:38):
set up for that. I think I'm gonna try that
something this week and see if maybe some bull rids
are down there underneath those jacks. But hadn't had a
chance to do that here recently, but I guess not.
But yeah, it's uh, it's good. I mean, the water's clear. Hell.
I had a kingfish sky up in the bay on
the base side of the jeddies last week and it skied,
(11:02):
you know, six eight feet kind of that same area
had you and Christian, Yeah, yeah, yeah, there's came in.
The blue water was into the jetties. You could see
down eight ten feet. That's so fun. The beech trunks
full of rain meadows and little bee I don't know
where they all came from, but the last two years
(11:22):
we have had the mother load of little baby Spanish mackerel.
Oh wow, I'm talking ten to twelve Inchish micherel and
they're out there by the Brazilians.
Speaker 1 (11:33):
Oh man, I wish i'd have had that last week
when I had faux pro down there at surf side.
The whole the whole surf had just as many skip
jacks in there, and it was just so boring for you.
I couldn't stand.
Speaker 2 (11:45):
Yeah, we've had a lot of skipjacks through and well
some pretty big ones. But it's you go down the
beach and all the customers, you know, they get all excited.
Hey look, birds, birds, verds and skip jack. It's the
Spanish mackerel and I'll pull over to them and you
see them in the little Spanish micros flying out the yeah,
and they're chasing a little bitty microbait that, you know,
(12:07):
a quarter a half inch inch long, and the birds
coo nuts on it and it looks great until you
get up there and throw into it and you lose
everything you got for real, man.
Speaker 1 (12:19):
Immediately, all right, Scott, it it's good man. I got
to take a break here, but thank you for the
call this morning. I appreciate it. Patch up but ready,
all right, man, all right, thank you Captain Scott and
all down there in Port O'Connor. My gut says he's
gonna be on the water this afternoon if the wind
stays down, and it looks like it's going to it's
(12:40):
also looking like it's gonna kind of change over and
be more south, more pushing right onto the beach than
that that easterly pop that showed up on the port O'Connor.
A'm gonna let me refresh this.
Speaker 2 (12:52):
I may may.
Speaker 1 (12:53):
Change three two one and yeah, yeah, it's a little
it's in a little bit more south. So he's got
good he's got good water. I bet he's gonna have
a good time this afternoon.
Well, welcome back the Doug Pike Show on Sports Talk
at seven ninety this Sunday morning, A beautiful Sunday morning.
As a matter of fact, I am going to push
this magic button now and bring up Captain Scott. No,
Captain Scott, what's going on?
Speaker 2 (00:13):
Man ah must's day?
Speaker 1 (00:16):
What's the buzz?
Speaker 2 (00:17):
Scott?
Speaker 1 (00:19):
I'm gonna lay them on you all the way through.
Speaker 2 (00:22):
I don't know if those were African or French or
Italian or you.
Speaker 1 (00:26):
Hear a car?
Speaker 2 (00:27):
I didn't, you know, I didn't hear any accents, not
what ye I don't know if.
Speaker 1 (00:32):
You could buzz with an accent. You just wanted to
get away from.
Speaker 2 (00:35):
Him, uh mans I can tell you that, Lee.
Speaker 1 (00:40):
So what were you doing when this happened?
Speaker 2 (00:43):
I was on a zero turn mower, Oh okay, mowing
around the edge of some thick brush. I take care
of about three hundred acres next door to me, and
they're just don't what to do, you know, just you know,
I'm mowing, and you know me, I'm outside all day
every day doing something. You know, Camill will asks, you know,
(01:03):
like a little kid, don't come in until the lights
come on. But I was just mowing along there, and
I mean, I get hit by wasp all the time.
It's it's not unusual for me to get popped by
a wasp. You know, I had you know, they don't
bother me that much. You know the thing, you know
that it hurts. I got sung on forearm as I
(01:24):
was mowing up around some oak trees, and you know,
just kind of brushed it off and went to move
out of there because you know, I don't want to
get hit it anymore. I figured I got a nest
to sure close by. Usually what I do is I
pull out, I stop, I turn around and look and
see see where the nest is, and then take care
of that little washpbray. But as I was brushing that
(01:47):
one off, I didn't get a chance to see it.
And then all of a sudden my whole head was attacked.
I mean just a solid, buzzing attack on top of
my head, my ears, all over my face, my shoulders.
Good lord, they were just they were all over me.
(02:08):
So I hit I hit the go button on the
zero turn and took off the fast and go of
co'se sitting fast enough to get away from the bees.
But I was still thinking why, you know, because I
mean it was you know, just kind of close your
eyes and go it stinging your eyes. One got me
on the eyelid. But I got out of that and
they were still on me, and then you know, then
(02:31):
it starts hitting you. Okay, these are bees. Uh turned
the motor off, you know, So I shut the shut
the mower down and got off of it to get
away from the mower. Thinking right, and you know they're
they're mad about that, that moor engine and now they
were mad at me, and I took off run. I
(02:51):
didn't run like that since I was on the police department. Man.
I took off and headed for the house. Uh. They've
got a big shop over there, and I was probably
two hundred yards away. Wow, and I'm sprinting over there
to the shop and they're still on me. And they
followed me all the way to the shop, all over
(03:12):
my neck everywhere I got there. And you know, Josie,
my lab pop. She and so she lays in the
shop and she was in there asleep, and she sees
me coming. She jumps up and hey, it's time to play,
you know. And I took off with her, hollered at her,
and of course she's she's really good about, you know, commands,
(03:33):
and following me. I said, come on, let's go, and
ran in. There's a storage place inside the shop, you know,
a little closed in closet mark closet thing, and we
ran for that closet and I made it inside the closet,
got the door closed with me and her in there,
and one bee got in and I managed to take
(03:55):
care of that one and me and are sat in
there for about fifteen twenty minutes. My head was on fire,
dude on the shirt. And we waited a little bit
and came back out and there was one buzz in
here or there, but they were all, you know, they'd
kind of left and went home. And I waited a little,
you know, waited about an hour, went back over there
(04:18):
to look just to see, you know, see where the
hive was, and saw them all buzzing around the trees
and stuff. So I didn't I didn't venture back in
or anything. I just wanted to locate it.
Speaker 1 (04:31):
Good call.
Speaker 2 (04:31):
God, I never saw the hive. I just saw them
all buzzing around those trees, and so I called they
that ranch. They have an exterminator that comes out and
takes care of the house. And the barn and stuff.
So I called David and he said, I can be
out there tomorrow. So I'm busy today. They can't be
up there tomorrow. So I met him the next morning
(04:52):
and we went out there and eased around and it
was kind of calm that morning, so we just got
up near those trees and stopped and didn't not see
a single bee. Didn't hear yeah, usually you can hear
a hog. Yeah yeah. And we sat there for thirty
forty five minutes hour, walked all around that edge and looked.
The only thing we can come up with is maybe
(05:13):
that was a swarm. It was just moving, Yeah, that
was moving through and they just stationed there for the afternoon.
I don't know whatever it was. And like I said,
I can't say for certain it was Africanized bees, but
the way they acted and the way they chased me,
I mean, they did not give up. They were on
(05:34):
me the whole way.
Speaker 1 (05:35):
What Carl said that there's Africanization within their DNA now
to varying degrees and mostly just a little bit. But
if it's in that DNA and you're standing in the
wrong place, they're gonna zap you.
Speaker 2 (05:48):
Man. Holy cow.
Speaker 1 (05:49):
Yeah, a lot of fun do they have if they
have a natural enemy, Scott, maybe you should consider mowing
wearing a yellow jacket.
Speaker 2 (05:57):
That's another Well, they say that the true Africanized ones
they can sing multiple times. Yeah, without even the stinger.
Speaker 1 (06:07):
Oh my god.
Speaker 2 (06:07):
Well, there was a whole bunch of stings that didn't
have you know, the stones were released, interesting, all behind
my ears and all my cheek, and then I probably
had I don't know, probably a dozen or so stingers
that were still in me. Good lord, and I got,
you know, picking those out, and I had to get
(06:29):
Camill to get some of them when she got home.
She was she was out of town when it happened.
She got home, and some of them I couldn't I
couldn't see all that well because yeah, they were, they
were in my eye glasses on. I couldn't get to them.
Speaker 1 (06:43):
Understand that. Let's get out of these bees for a minute. Okay,
let's go to something a little more happy. How's your
fishing been, man, it's been really good.
Speaker 2 (06:53):
August was incredible because when had wind. Yeah, it was
just it was dead wind less than ten miles an hour,
day after day after day. So I spent every day
I could out on the beach front. Jason Tarpin. I
just found the mother load of tarping, of course, and
then I way on down the beach, you know, probably
(07:14):
I don't know, twenty five miles down. Yeah, had just
found them. Uh. We were kind of hanging out out there,
me and two or three other boats, and they just
would not eat. I mean, I'll send you pictures of
my graph. The graph was full of fish for like
three or four hours, and we were in sixteen to
twenty feet of water and they were just everywhere. Even
(07:36):
the guys that you know, my guy was fly fishing,
so oh that's tough. He was, you know, he's blind
casting and with a sinking line and letting it go.
And but the guys that were around me, they were
trolling coon pops and they only got one. They jumped one.
Speaker 1 (07:52):
Were they moving, were they moving or were they just
sitting they rested?
Speaker 2 (07:56):
They were just hanging out. Wow. And like I said,
six to twenty foot of water and they were anywhere
from ten feet to the bottom, just colid tarping go. Yeah.
Then of course the very next day the wind start blowing,
of course, straight out of the east where it makes
it really hard to get down there and get back
down the beach and get straight down the beach. But
(08:19):
since then it's it's blown pretty good. Most days it's
not terrible. You know, they're not talking you twenty twenty
five or anything, but anything over you know, twelve fourteen
makes that beach kind of choppy. And what I found
is the white Caps start at about twelve miles an
hour roughly, And when the white Caps start up, that
(08:41):
makes it so hard to find those fish. You can't
see them roll right. When it's calm, you're you know,
I'm running down the beach. I got that top drive.
I can be up there ill I see tarping a
quarter half a mile. But when it gets choppy, your
head just starts spinning in every direction. Because every day
white Wall looked like a tarping.
Speaker 1 (09:02):
I'm looking at Port O'Connor right now. You only got
ten miles an hour. It's out of the east.
Speaker 2 (09:05):
Still. Yeah, it's not bad today, yeah, yeah. And the day,
of course, was the day that I didn't have a trip.
Speaker 1 (09:11):
You probably don't feel like going today anyway.
Speaker 2 (09:14):
Now I'm all right nothing. I took a bunch of
better drill and we got some sleep. And the swelling's
pretty much gone down. So now I'm back on tractor today.
I get some stuff done. I got some trips coming up.
Speaker 1 (09:28):
We'll stay out of the bushes.
Speaker 2 (09:29):
We're supposed to blow this week. So I don't know.
Speaker 1 (09:32):
Do you run into Repish schools down there this time
of year.
Speaker 2 (09:36):
I haven't this year. Those years I do quite often. Yeah,
we'll see, you know, the big giant schools, but this
year just hadn't seen them. It really hadn't seen a
lot of them around the jetties either. We had a
whole bunch of guides down here over the last several
(09:56):
years that were taking out you know, corporate trips and
the once a year fishermen, and they were using their
tags consistently every day, and I think that that kind
of put a little dent in some of our bull
rid down here that have But they're usually they're mixed
in with the jacks at the jetty, you know, we'll
(10:17):
see them mixed together, and it really hadn't seen a
whole lot of them. A lot of jacks, some monster jacks, boy,
but very few redfish mixed in with them. I do
see some stuff down deep when I'm seeing that that
could be could be bull rigs, and I've got some
some those slow fall jigs and I got some rigs
(10:38):
set up for that. I think I'm gonna try that
something this week and see if maybe some bull rids
are down there underneath those jacks. But hadn't had a
chance to do that here recently, but I guess not.
But yeah, it's uh, it's good. I mean, the water's clear. Hell.
I had a kingfish sky up in the bay on
the base side of the jeddies last week and it skied,
(11:02):
you know, six eight feet kind of that same area
had you and Christian, Yeah, yeah, yeah, there's came in.
The blue water was into the jetties. You could see
down eight ten feet. That's so fun. The beech trunks
full of rain meadows and little bee I don't know
where they all came from, but the last two years
(11:22):
we have had the mother load of little baby Spanish mackerel.
Oh wow, I'm talking ten to twelve Inchish micherel and
they're out there by the Brazilians.
Speaker 1 (11:33):
Oh man, I wish i'd have had that last week
when I had faux pro down there at surf side.
The whole the whole surf had just as many skip
jacks in there, and it was just so boring for you.
I couldn't stand.
Speaker 2 (11:45):
Yeah, we've had a lot of skipjacks through and well
some pretty big ones. But it's you go down the
beach and all the customers, you know, they get all excited.
Hey look, birds, birds, verds and skip jack. It's the
Spanish mackerel and I'll pull over to them and you
see them in the little Spanish micros flying out the yeah,
and they're chasing a little bitty microbait that, you know,
(12:07):
a quarter a half inch inch long, and the birds
coo nuts on it and it looks great until you
get up there and throw into it and you lose
everything you got for real, man.
Speaker 1 (12:19):
Immediately, all right, Scott, it it's good man. I got
to take a break here, but thank you for the
call this morning. I appreciate it. Patch up but ready,
all right, man, all right, thank you Captain Scott and
all down there in Port O'Connor. My gut says he's
gonna be on the water this afternoon if the wind
stays down, and it looks like it's going to it's
(12:40):
also looking like it's gonna kind of change over and
be more south, more pushing right onto the beach than
that that easterly pop that showed up on the port O'Connor.
A'm gonna let me refresh this.
Speaker 2 (12:52):
I may may.
Speaker 1 (12:53):
Change three two one and yeah, yeah, it's a little
it's in a little bit more south. So he's got
good he's got good water. I bet he's gonna have
a good time this afternoon.
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