Should There Be Drones for Hunting?

Originally aired on December 13, 2025. On this episode, Doug looks forward to the start of a chilly flounder season this Monday, in adddition to northern winds bringing more ducks to our state. Lastly, Doug speaks with Scott Null, saltwater fishing guide, to revisit his cleanup experiences after the Kerrville floods.

Episode Transcript

Speaker 1 (00:00):
Now here's Doug bike all right. I had to send
Frankie back to my desk. He's a great guy. I
just rewarded him too with his Christmas present, and as
soon as he gets back with my headphones, I'll be
almost ready. Don't tell him much of blood, sir. Thank
you very much, Thank you, thank you very much. In

(00:20):
case you can't tell, I am back to about ninety percent,
well eighty five percent voice. The higher range is still
a little bit sandy, I guess I could call it.
But down in this where I am here, whatever that is,
it still it feels good. I don't have any There
are no more issues, really, other than I've been dealing

(00:43):
with this for quite some time now and I'm just
about sick of it. I wasn't able to do the
announcements at the Saint Jude tournament on Monday because I
needed to save my voice for Tuesday, Wednesday, Thursday and Friday.
But i'd be okay before it's speaking of Saint Jude,
before we talk about anything else related to the outdoors,
and we'll do that for the next three hours. Don't

(01:04):
worry a little drum roll, please, Frankie get this This
past week between the iHeart Houston Golf Tournament on Monday
up at Golf Club of Houston, and a great event.
By the way, I strongly encourage you playing next year
if you can. It's a really fun tournament. We do
really nice goodie bags and should for the It's a

(01:28):
premium tournament, no question about that. But if you get
in and you come along, we're gonna have a good time.
You're gonna eat well, you're gonna be pampered as you
go around the course. It's it's just really a fun tournament.
And then the radiothon that we conducted yesterday and Thursday,

(01:49):
third year in a row. If we had a drum roll,
we'd do it third year in a row. We raised
more than a million dollars this week for that hospital
over in Memphis. You know, yeah, thank you, Frankie. You know,
the one where they treat the sickest kids in the world,
and those kids and their families don't pay a dime.

(02:11):
It's just remarkable. It really is truly remarkable. There are
no charge for transportation for the entire family. Bring mom
and dad over there. If dad can get away from
work for a while, come on over, fly in. They
have accommodations. I've seen the housing. It's pretty dog gone nice, frankly,
no charge for that. The cafeteria, the giant cafeteria that

(02:34):
has I want it. It's at least a dozen different cuisines,
if you will, different options that are handmade right in
front for you. That's just right there. Pick what you
want and they'll whip it up for you. And then
there's a bunch of just grabbing ghost stuff. There's only
one of those. And even the doctors, even the pediatric neurosurgeon,

(02:57):
might be sitting there eating next to you and your
family because you got your kid in there. There's no
separate place. There's no distinction between the surgeons and the
patients or their families or their friends or anybody else
who's visiting that hospital. If you're going to be eating there,
you who knows who you might sit down next to.

(03:19):
Yesterday on fifty plus, I propose something that I'm going
to propose today, And if anybody thinks I'm wrong, you're
going to have to call and try to convince me
that I am and you won't be able to do it,
because I'm pretty confident that I'm right about this. I
proposed yesterday that Saint Jude Children's Research Hospital be declared

(03:41):
the eighth Wonder of the World. And here's why. It's
very simple. The other seven are just buildings, some in
better shape than the others, and some of them just
falling apart. But they're buildings, that's all they are. And
other than being architectural marvels, which is I look at
that the Grand Canyons on the list, the taj Mahal,

(04:05):
the Pyramids of Egypt, the Colosseum in Rome, all those things.
That's cute, okay, But Saint Jude Children's Research Hospital cures
children with horrible cancers and diseases, and in my mind,
that moves that that complex of buildings. It's not just
a building, it's an entire campus that moves Saint Jude's

(04:28):
up to the top of the list. Agree or disagree, Frankie,
what do you think? Am I right? Absolutely? One hundred percent?
These people since nineteen sixty two have been curing cancer.
There's one. There's a I believe it's a blood cancer.
I was looking at the list yesterday, and if I
could find it here, I might say something about it
again in a minute. But I was looking at the
list of the when the hospital opened back in nineteen

(04:52):
sixty two to now the five year survival rate for
kids who showed up with XYZ cancer, and there's about
a of them listed, maybe more. The one at the
top of the list is the one that they're most
proud of. And the cure rate for that cancer went
from I want to say, four percent to ninety four percent.

(05:16):
They dialed that one in. They've got it figured out.
And a kid that shows up at Saint Jude with
that probably going to be walking out. We got to
meet We got to meet a young man. He's probably
in his early thirties now, I would guess he was
a patient at Saint Jude when he was little and
they fixed him. They fixed him. So anyway, if you
want to jump in next year, if you want to

(05:37):
get in line to play next year, or just come
out and see what it's all about, by all means,
please do. We would welcome you there. I can assure
you welcome you with open arms. Just come out and say, hey, man,
I want to see what's going on here. I want
to see what's going on with this screen there that
went away. Okay, that's good, all right, I'm right down
to what I need, Frankie, on this screen, one is

(05:57):
you big and bold and the other is the phone thing.
What do you call this screen? Oh it's the screener,
isn't it?

Speaker 2 (06:05):
Oh?

Speaker 1 (06:05):
Yeah?

Speaker 3 (06:06):
Is that?

Speaker 1 (06:06):
Is that what you call it?

Speaker 3 (06:07):
Uh?

Speaker 1 (06:07):
Huh okay, you know, sometimes I know, sometimes I don't know,
all right? Seven one three, two one five seven ninety
Email me Doug Pike at iHeartMedia dot com.

Speaker 3 (06:17):
Uh.

Speaker 1 (06:17):
Moving forward into what was supposed to be dense fog
promised by my little in home communication device. She missed
on this one. No fog in sugar Land at five
o'clock in the morning. It was damp, no question about that,
very very damp. But visibility on the ground. And bear
in mind, I'm in a low, low lying area. I'm not.

(06:40):
I'm not on some mountaintop in sugar Land. I'm low.
If there's fog, I'm gonna get it first. And visibility
on the ground. When I got onto kind of the
main drag out of where I live, got onto a
four lane esplanated street, visibility was more than half a
mile and maybe a whole mile. I didn't bother to look.

(07:01):
I was just disappointed that the goose hunters who were
putting out rags and decoys in the weather I was
in at least might have been a little disappointed. Almost
not a breath of wind either. It was very very
light wind. Let's go talk to Bob, shall we?

Speaker 2 (07:16):
Bob?

Speaker 4 (07:19):
Merry Christmas?

Speaker 1 (07:20):
First?

Speaker 5 (07:21):
While I haven't it's been a while, I.

Speaker 2 (07:24):
Know, I wanted to say something.

Speaker 5 (07:26):
People don't have to wait till next year, Saint Jud's.

Speaker 6 (07:30):
They can go.

Speaker 5 (07:30):
Online and donate.

Speaker 1 (07:32):
It's a good point.

Speaker 5 (07:33):
The best thing I've ever done in my life.

Speaker 7 (07:36):
Thank you.

Speaker 1 (07:36):
I appreciate that, Bob, I really do.

Speaker 3 (07:38):
Man, And.

Speaker 5 (07:41):
I am fortunate. I've never had any children that had
any kind of problems. You know, Yeah, but there are
so many out there that need our help. And I
know there's a lot of you know, organizations are looking
for money, but sure, I too toward and man, what

(08:02):
a facility.

Speaker 7 (08:03):
I'll tell you what you know.

Speaker 2 (08:05):
Go ahead.

Speaker 1 (08:06):
I was gonna say, I got to tour that place
eight years ago, and they invited me back this year,
and I just said, no, send somebody who hasn't been
there yet, because I've been and there's nothing you could
show me over there today that would make me anymore
locked in on this cause there's just nothing. So yeah,
if you got six or eight hours, I'll sit down
and tell you about my trip. You know, it was awesome.

Speaker 5 (08:29):
I'd love to listen, dude. But you know I was
there about two years ago.

Speaker 1 (08:33):
Oh great.

Speaker 5 (08:34):
You know, they don't turn you away if you want to,
you know, if you're whether you donate or not, they don't.

Speaker 4 (08:40):
It's not a.

Speaker 5 (08:41):
Complete tour, but it's something that you know, meet a
couple of the kids and py. They just do such
a great job.

Speaker 7 (08:49):
But I just wanted to mention that, well, thank you.

Speaker 5 (08:51):
Don't wait till next year.

Speaker 1 (08:53):
It's a good point.

Speaker 5 (08:54):
You don't lie, you know, and donate you' I have
a happy merry Christmas, and I keep listening. I just
have been able to call in having a lot of help.

Speaker 2 (09:03):
Yeah.

Speaker 1 (09:04):
I was gonna ask you. I know you've been kind
of down. Are you on the mend?

Speaker 7 (09:09):
No?

Speaker 5 (09:09):
No, they've still got a couple of surgeries to do. Okay, okay, Yeah,
I got a bacterial and fection him and they got
to this iv in to me.

Speaker 7 (09:18):
I gotta treat it every day.

Speaker 5 (09:20):
But you know, I just can't golf and fisture or anything.
But I sure like I said, live through the curiously
through fisher hunting.

Speaker 2 (09:29):
With your show. All right, buddy, I do appreciate it. Yes, sir,
every day, keep.

Speaker 1 (09:34):
You keep fighting a good fight.

Speaker 3 (09:35):
Man.

Speaker 1 (09:35):
We'll get out there and play a little golf someday
one of these days.

Speaker 5 (09:39):
If no, no, I'd just like to sit down and
have lunch with you.

Speaker 1 (09:42):
I'll do that. Yeah, we'll find a way to make that.
All right, man, Okay, thank you, Yes, sir, take care.
That's a good man. He's listened for a long time.
I hate it when somebody in my audience is down
like that. Got to get a couple of surgeries next year.
Oh but what a what a h A generous and
unselfish thing to do to come on and see this

(10:04):
praises of Saint Jude when he's got the health problems
he's got. We're all pretty lucky. Anybody who's not had
to go to Saint Jude with their child, it's pretty
darn lucky because they only accept the sickest of the sick.
It's amazing, it really is it, really and truly is
all right. Moving back to this fog thing with the

(10:26):
fog that never materialized, by the way, you know, I'm confident,
based on forty to fifty years of hunting experience out there,
that there was fog somewhere because the conditions were just
a plus set up for it. And when there's just
this blanket dense fog advisory issued, you shift into fog

(10:49):
mode for your waterfowl hunt or your deer hunter whatever,
and that honestly, fog is one of the coolest things
to hunt in because you lose the ability. It's like
being vision impaired. You can't see what's around you, and
your sense of hearing, your sense of smell all get heightened,

(11:09):
especially your hearing. You'll hear things in the fog that
you probably never would have heard if it was a
clear morning, because your attention would have been diverted by
all the things you're seeing. And it's just really a
magical time to be in the out well, there is
no unmagical time to be in the outdoors. I gonna
I was gonna say that it was magical, but it's

(11:32):
always magical to be outdoors. But in the fog, it's
just heightened. Your sense of hearing picks up every little
thing and it magnifies it to where if you hear
a squirrel walking on dry leaves. Your vision goes to
a giant buck trying to sneak up on you and

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get a good sniff of you before it spins and
turns into the woods, and then the fog lifts and
you see it's only a squirrel, and you're so disappointed.
You're so disappointed. It's happened to me a million times.
Oh my gosh, down South Texas once. I'm not kidding.
I sat in this stand and it stayed dense, fog
like ten yards visibility max until almost eight thirty quarter

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or nine in the morning. The air was not moving
at all. This giant cloud had just sat down on
the earth at that point in that place and would
not get up and move away. And I heard what
I had envisioned to be a herd of elephants coming through.
I heard what I thought was snake slithering on the ground.

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I heard all these things that my brain tried to interpret,
but without a vision of it couldn't interpret at all accurately.
And I would have sworn there were all kinds of
things coming through there, golf carts, bicycles. It was truly
a fun experience. And then, of course, when the fog lifts.
There's nothing but a couple of squirrels. There's a rabbit

(12:57):
over there, there's a green and the bush over in
the tree over here. It was fun, It was really fun.
Didn't fire shot that Day's still fun. El Cubano Cigars.
Speaking of fun, I saw something from Many on Many Lopez,
guy who owns the place, on Facebook yesterday. I haven't
had a chance to see where he was, but every

(13:18):
time I turn around, he's somewhere around the Greater Houston area,
either rolling cigars for people or delivering cigars to people
when they've had special orders and he needs to get
them out. He will custom band your cigars, he would say,
for whatever reason. Maybe there's a big company party coming
up and you got a lot of cigar smokers. Maybe

(13:38):
it's a golf tournament. You want him to come out
and roll cigars for everybody who signed up to play.
All kinds of reasons to go visit him at the
manufacturing facility in Texas City, where it's one of only
four dozen in the whole country. Four dozen cigar manufacturers
in the whole country, most of them in Florida, as
you might well imagine, and Manny himself is of Cuban descent,

(14:00):
and he and his dad came from Cuba from working
in cigar factories, came over here in two thousand and
six and opened up El Cubano Cigars. Get them that now.
The lounge at at Texas City is where he rolls cigars,
and he and several other people who are Cuban and
know what they're doing. I wouldn't know the first thing

(14:21):
about rolling a cigar. He can tell you all about them.
He can tell you all about the tobaccos he uses.
He can explain why you're better off buying directly from
the manufacturer then putting two or three middlemen in there
and having to pay them about a bucket stick each.
It's all good with L Cubano Cigars. Second smoking lounge
about the win League City as well. El Cubano Cigars

(14:43):
dot Com is the website that's pretty easy. Elcubanocigars dot Com.
I hate my laptop. I don't know why it wants
to do what it's Oh, here we go, Yes, thank
you laptop, Thank you very much. Oh yeah, man. Steve

(15:07):
Wade in Best Day, the subject line best Day. Let
me pop this out and see if I've got time.
Oh yeah, just sweet. One of the best days of
my life, Comma, writes Steve Comma was laying in a
rice field, or it says in a field in Garwood,
doesn't say rice. Maybe not in Garwood, Texas, on a

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foggy morning with a bunch of my buddies duck and
goose hunting.

Speaker 8 (15:35):
I have.

Speaker 1 (15:36):
I was given the privilege. I had the privilege over
fourteen years of guiding, in about another six or eight
years before that, of hunting on the prairie west of town,
to have so many foggy morning experiences. If it was
foggy when I was in my twenties, thirties, and well

(15:57):
into my forties, I was going to be on that somewhere.
I was gonna be there somewhere with a bunch of
my buddies hunting ducks and geese. Some of the best
memories of my life, some of the best, no question
about it. I almost tripped over my own feet walking down,

(16:19):
just skipping down memory lane. Yeah, that's a lot of fun.
If you've never done it. It's very hard to predict fog,
even forty eight hours out, very hard to predict it.
It's a lucky thing. It's kind of the luck of
the draw. You set your date for your hunt. And
by the way, I had not as many great hunts

(16:40):
in bluebird weather, but I had my share of great
hunts in bluebird weather. So don't think that just because
you wake up on the day you booked your guided
goose hunder, the day the first day you were going
to go out on your new lease that you got
or whatever. Don't think that just because it's bluebird that
you can't shoot birds. You put out a quality spread,

(17:03):
you tell anybody and everybody you've invited to hunt with
you to stay still when the birds are coming. You
use your call sparingly, sparingly. That's one of the things
I don't know why it is that almost every person
who posts videos of duck and goose hunting on Facebook

(17:27):
can't put their call down. They have to have somebody
else video for them, because they got a call in
each hand and they're blowing them both at the same time,
and it's just a hot mess of noise when birds
are coming right at them, when the best thing they
could do is just shut up. And I'm you know,
if you're the kind of guy who likes to call

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all the time. More power to you, more power to you.
But just every now and then, just try it. If
a bird, if you're looking at the north end of
a bird and it's coming toward you, and it looks
pretty chill and not not accelerating into the stratosphere, just
pump the brakes and put that call back in your
top pocket for just a minute. See what happens if

(18:09):
the bird turns away. If you can see the south end,
see the back to see the tail feathers of that bird,
Give it a couple of quacks, give it a couple
of hanks. See if it won't turn around and come back.
Because most of the time, when when geese and ducks
are on the ground feeding, and they do feed, ducks,
all ducks feed like crazy and bone dry fields up north.

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We don't see it much down here, but that's if
you go up north of about I don't know, Iowa,
and all the way up through Canada, you're gonna see
lots of ducks feeding on bear dry ground, well not bear,
but close cut crops on dry ground. They don't mind
walking around in that stuff. They're not all divers, they're

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not all aquatic vegetation eaters. They're not all snail eaters.
Well that's a tasty treat, isn't it. A spoon bill
that's been on the coast for about three four weeks
and then comes back up here on a south wind.
Mm hm hmmm.

Speaker 8 (19:06):
Yeah.

Speaker 1 (19:07):
Just do yourself a favor, and if you if you
happen to get one after this north that's coming through,
is gonna blow a lot of our ducks down to
the coast and they'll camp out there for a while.
And a week and a half or so after this front.
You see a spoon bill flying through your spread on
the prairie, let it fly. Just let it keep going.

(19:27):
It's not worth cleaning and eating. Seven one three seven nine.
Email me Doug Packet iHeartMedia dot Com. Frankie, do I
sound Do I sound really really southern? In my normal talking?
I can locate that it's a southern one. Yeah, you know,
I'm from here, but I'm not like out in the sticks.

(19:51):
I'm I'm I'm suburban southern. Right Is that fair? Yeah?
That's fair? Yeah, suburb I'm gonna coin that term right now.
Write it down. We're suburbourban southern. Now, are you city
southern or suburban southern city or city. Yeah, I think so. Yeah.
I don't hear it as much in your voice as
I do mine, and I don't hear it when I
speak as much and when I'm doing when I'm doing

(20:15):
commercials for people in other parts of the country and whatnot.
I can lose that, I really can. I can. I
can do dialects uh and and fairly accurately. But when
I'm just shooting the breeze with you. Now, if we're
sitting on a tailgate out in the middle of the
prairie and watching birds fly over and shooting the breeze

(20:36):
about the hunt we had that morning, I'm gonna get
a little more country southern, just a little bit more,
because I feel like it's it's only appropriate. You shouldn't
be out there speaking the King's English in the middle
of a rice field. You got to immerse yourself. Although
I did have a guy all the way from Italy

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who came in and hunted once. We literally did have
people come in from all around the world back during
the heyday of that prairie, and it was phenomenal, and
they every one of them left with an understanding of
what they'd experienced and that it was unique to the
whole world. It was just that good. It was just
that good. We'd have people come in and stay from

(21:19):
all over our country too, from they almost every state
in our entire country, and would come in and stay
for three four days, and over the course of three
or four days, you were going to have at least
one or two probably really good hunts the first day. Sorry,
I'm going a little little secret out of the bag.
If you're coming in for three or four days of

(21:40):
straight hunting, the first day, you're not going to the
best spot on the prairie. Now, you might trip over it,
and the birds might change their minds from yesterday where
they ended up and come right to where you're going.
But chances are it's kind of that first day is
kind of a break in hunt to see what kind
of hunters you are, you and your group, and to

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see just how well you shoot all that kind of stuff,
because there's a lot of factors going to where you're
gonna be hunting. And to their credit, most of the
outfitters I've ever talked to, I've ever worked with, really
do try to get everybody on good hunts every day.
It's impossible, because a bird pick up and fly the
other way. If they've been flying from south to north

(22:24):
for six days in a row out of the same roost,
going to the same feeding field, and you go in
there on the seventh that well, that's a little late.
Let's let's call it. They've been doing it for two days,
and a bunch of the roosts got bigger, and you
just know they're gonna go in your direction the next morning,
and you're you're sitting down wind of them, and you
can hear them, and oh man, they're gonna come right

(22:46):
to where we are. Guys. You just get ready. And
then you hear three coyotes up toward the roost just
rip it and yip it and splashing in those shallow
waters they run through it. And you see on the
just the and the faint glimmer of light on the horizon,
you see every bird on that roost that can flap
its wings, lift off and go the other way. And

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if you don't have a bunch of good jokes in
your pocket at that point, it's gonna be a long warning.
You'll still shoot some birds. Oh so many cool things
happened on that prairie. It's like it's the fishing guides
have the same stories. Being on the water, being in
a field every days. As a professional guide, you see things,
you learn things that the average person might take fifteen

(23:33):
to twenty years to figure out. And it's a blessing,
it really is. Now it's become easier with the advent
of social media, where you get all these videos of
people telling you how they do it and how their
way is the best way, and this is how you
should set your decoys, this is how you should call
your shots, this is how often and how whatever having

(23:57):
to do with fishing or hunting. There are billion people
out there who fancy themselves experts and are going to
tell you how to do it. Your job is the
person who's gonna actually be out there in that weather
on that day, is to try to figure out as
fast as you can which of those thousand people who
are putting up these videos really know what they're doing,

(24:19):
and of them, which of them are just full of
smoke that it's just hot smoke and nothing loud, nothing else,
all hat no cattle. As we say here in Texas.
You ever heard that Frankie, Oh yeah, yeah, man, yeah,
you hear a lot more around the rodeo. People like
to fancy themselves cowboys during the rodeo. They get their
shiny boots and their tight jeans and starched white shirt

(24:43):
and get after it. That's a fun time of year. Man.
That rodeo changes a lot of people for about two months,
doesn't it. Mm hmm? All right, Let's let's take a
break on time just to celebrate doing that. I guess, Oh,
this is a good opportunity for me to tell you
about Tobe Stevens and the golf apparel and the outdoors
apparel he's got. I saw him at the tournament. His

(25:05):
team did very well, by the way they got their
pictures taken. I said, they must have had a podium finish.
And he had a pretty good team. I can assure you.
I've played with I think all four of those guys
at least once, and yeah, they deserved whatever trophy they got.
Golf apparel starting with kids stuff all the way up
to four X for the guys. There's plenty of women's

(25:26):
apparel as well. They have fishing shirts, and they have
golf shorts, and just he keeps expanding the line and
the company keeps getting stronger and stronger, and when you
go and look at what it is. It's very fun,
very higher end stuff, but not at the outrageous prices
you'll see on some of the other brands out there.

(25:48):
I'm really glad that Kobe, Kobe Galack's the guy's name,
Kobe Stevens is the name of the company, and I'm
really glad that Kobe has has maintained his He's stayed
in his lane and offered up higher end stuff at
a very affordable prices. They're cool shirts, so I wore
one to the tournament. I got myself all decked out

(26:09):
in matching a matching ensemble of a long sleeve hooded
undershirt much like what I'm wearing today in the studio,
and then I put the golf shirt over that, and
then because it was pretty dog on cold when we
teed up for the first shots, I had something else
on over that, and I got rid of that as
quick as I could so I could get back to
my very cool ensemble. Got a big old news store,

(26:33):
beautiful place about to kick off up on the north side.
Kobe Stevens dot com. Go check it out. He's also
probably one of the most giving people I've ever known, well,
hence his presence at the Saint Jude Tournament. You know
Kobe Stevens dot com co b y S T E
V E n S. Kobe Stevens dot com nine seven

(26:58):
thirty five? What was that? Seven thirty five on Sports
Talk seven to ninety The Doug Pine Show. Thanks for listening.
I'm so close to getting my full voice back, and
I can't wait. It's so frustrating to just have that
little bit of a little bit of crunch in there.
And what's happened. This doctor gave me everything I needed
to be right and get this voice back. But what's

(27:18):
happening is we're we're drying up little a little bit
of nasal drainage into my throat, which is making me
do that clear my throat a lot. The clearing of
the throat dries it even more than the nose spray
that I'm using for allergies, and so it's just dry, dry, dry,
dry dry.

Speaker 7 (27:39):
I drink.

Speaker 1 (27:40):
I drink more water than probably anybody on the plant
except my wife. That's all she drinks is water, Frankie.
She won't drink anything else but water, pure, pure water.
That's it. And we've got the small mountain of bottles
to prove it. Almost every time I go to the

(28:00):
grocery store, there'll be this list. She'll send me. She'll
text me a list. I'll be on the way home
from work, or from the golf course or whatever, from fishing, hunting,
and oh, by the way, I need you to run
by the grocery store. Here's my list. And no matter
what else, is first, second, third, fourth, sixth, twenty ninth
at the very end, water. And I know you don't

(28:22):
have to put water on the list anymore. Every time
I go, I bring back a case of water, sometimes two,
sometimes no, never more than two. I'm not a hoarder.
I've lived in this state, in Houston long enough to
know that even when a even when a hurricane comes

(28:45):
through here within a few days, there's gonna be water
available somewhere, probably at my grocery store. They have generators, because,
after all, if they can't open the doors, they can
make money at a time when they can make as
much money as they want. Now, they don't price gouge

(29:05):
where I go, which is honorable and also illegal if
they did it. Uh, And I'm grateful for that, because
back when I was younger, a lot of places very
proudly would say yeah, we got water for sale here,
or we've got gas or whatever. And that case of
water that back then might have been a dollar and

(29:27):
fifty cents in the grocery store with nine dollars, you
take it or leave it. It's going to be nine dollars
for that two dollars case of water, and you kind
of had to take or you had to go parched,
Like my little throat feels right now, So sad for me.
Seven one three two one two five seven nine email

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and we dugpick at iHeartMedia dot com. I'm just sitting
here looking at Steve's email, going back to being in
Garwood on a foggy morning with a bunch of my buddies.
How cool would that be? How absolutely positively cool would
that be? Oh, there's the person I'm when I say this,
the person who will there's only one person who will

(30:08):
truly understand. There's this one email that I need to
respond to and I haven't yet, but I will as
soon as we go to the next break. That's the
deal I'm gonna make. Other than that, just a bunch
of nine nothing really important in my in my inbox
so far this morning, which is a little bit unusual,
especially on a morning that was promised to be foggy.

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If you're sitting in a foggy duck blind waiting for
the ducks to start flying, it might take a minute.
They don't typically jump up and get going early in
the fog. I really don't know why it is. Maybe
they're just it's just not in their DNA to go
shooting around. Plus they tend to when they fly, they've
got that big, old fat, heavy breast and those little

(30:50):
stubby wings and they have to beat those wings a
little harder. And they don't really fly any faster than geese,
which is a common misconception. And if you've got ducks
flying by and nothing else in the sky, they because
their wings are beating so fast, they look like they're

(31:11):
really humping it through the sky. And then when geese
come by, the cadence of the wings is not nearly
so fast, so they look a little slower. And it's
only when you finally get to see ducks and usually
pintails flying right in and amongst a bunch of geese
that are moving, it's, oh, what do you know? They're

(31:33):
both flying about the same speed. Now, that's not their
take off when they see hunters in a blinding speed.
That's just their cruising speeds. And their cruising speeds are
about the same. They've got they've got cruise control in
their wings, I guess. And both both birds, the ducks
and the geese. Uh, set it at the pretty much

(31:54):
the same speed limit. They don't want to be pumping
out all the energy they've got to just casually move
from the east prairie to the west prairie or vice versa.
They reserve that for when they see shiny barrels and
shiny faces and and non stop calling. They hear, up, up, up,
we know better than this. Let's high tail it out.

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That's another that's a rural Southern expression. Let's high tail
it out of here. Okay, se one three seven ninety.
You know what we could do. We'll take this break early. Uh,
can you get faux pro up? I'll talk to him
if he's ready. Are you ready, faux pro? Let's see
appreciate it.

Speaker 2 (32:34):
What's up, man, I'm trying to find a dry spot
to sit on the porch. I find of the cushion
and saddle of what under the cushion?

Speaker 1 (32:43):
Yeah, I think all your fog fell on the ground.
I can see the I can see the Santa Claus
halfway down the block. That's not pea soup.

Speaker 9 (32:50):
I thought it about forty yards, but it's actually gotten
worse that I talked to you. But okay, yeah, I
had a couple of quick fog stories and right this
back back in the day when you're out there, killer
had no john boat with a couple of buddies.

Speaker 2 (33:05):
And you know when you go down the fog up
here in the lake, you know, neither one of us
had accomplices. Yes, and uh, we're going out hunt blind.
I had on some flats up above the jungle. I know,
you know where the jungle's at. So we're hunting flats
up there. And so we're following the tree line out.
So I told my buddy, when we clear this tree line,
I'm going to point the boat where the duck blind

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should be and we're not gonna be able to see nothing.
I'm just gonna keep the handle straight. So we get
about shooting time. Ain't seen the duck blind, ain't see anything.
So we said, man, we just stopped the boat and uh,
put out decoys. That's just put out decoys against daylight.
We were half a mile from that blind. But I
thought I was pointed straight straight, and the fog gets

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a possible task.

Speaker 7 (33:48):
I think it is.

Speaker 1 (33:49):
What's impossible Forrest, I think is to is to get
to to be a die hard waterfowl hunter and not
get lost in the fall. You're it's gonna happen. It's
just a question to win, you know.

Speaker 2 (34:04):
Yep, that's a duck calling side of the duck calling
side of fall.

Speaker 1 (34:08):
Gum.

Speaker 2 (34:09):
Uh We had some mallards located typically the same mary,
but back in the place we call the fingers and
it's just some finger finger tight flues that go up
off the main kind of peter out and uh so
we got back there. But it's gonna be a blue
bird day that day, it was probably in the forties.
There'll be some wind later, no win, just like it
is this morning. But it's gonna be a blue bird day.

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So we're back there with five Mallard decoys and one shaker.
It's all we took when we hunt the backwater from Mallards.
And all I blew that morning was a duck commander
Mallard drake call. I never ever quacked every day. I'm
just backing.

Speaker 7 (34:45):
Yeah, all I.

Speaker 3 (34:46):
Did do that?

Speaker 2 (34:47):
Do that a couple of times there a few minutes. Sure,
they would just come straight down of the decor splash.

Speaker 1 (34:53):
How fun is that?

Speaker 4 (34:55):
You?

Speaker 2 (34:56):
Good? Times? Good? I like the backwater much a do
more than I love sitting out there with five hundred
decoys on the base, sometimes four or five decoys and
a buddy, because you know the mallards. You can hear
them coming long before you see them. So you like
to freaking out because you hear you hear the wings.

Speaker 3 (35:10):
You're here?

Speaker 2 (35:13):
You like where? Yeah?

Speaker 3 (35:13):
Where?

Speaker 1 (35:14):
Yeah?

Speaker 2 (35:14):
Where?

Speaker 8 (35:14):
Yeah?

Speaker 1 (35:14):
You know that's good stuff. Man, Thanks, Forest, It's always
a pleasure, my friend.

Speaker 2 (35:19):
Yes, sir, yes, third, all right, stay.

Speaker 1 (35:21):
In touch, man, I gotta get you on a goose hunt.
How many times have you hunted geese?

Speaker 3 (35:27):
Oh?

Speaker 2 (35:27):
When I was younger quite a bit. But back in
my teens.

Speaker 1 (35:31):
Early twenties, like in the nineteen forties.

Speaker 2 (35:35):
Yeah, somewhere like that. I think they had cars back then.

Speaker 1 (35:40):
Hitch up the wagon and head on down to the field.

Speaker 2 (35:43):
Let's say this, I was hunting in the wall that yeah, man,
most I say, I think I saw concrete and strip centers.

Speaker 1 (35:50):
Now, so yeah, I know most of the places I
hunted as a as a young man a young adult
are totally developed. Now there's just no there's nothing.

Speaker 3 (35:58):
Now.

Speaker 1 (35:59):
You'd have to put a a diaper down in somebody's
garden and call it a rags bread and that'd be it, alright.

Speaker 2 (36:05):
Pardon all right, with a quote tombstone.

Speaker 1 (36:08):
They win later, gosh almighty, take a break Timber Creek
Golf Club once the fog lifts. If there's fog down
there at Timber Creek, it'd be a pretty decent day.
It's gonna be a way better day than tomorrow, I
know that, or or Monday for sure, when flounder season
reopens to play some golf and the temperatures are actually
gonna be pretty mild I think still through today there's

(36:31):
a little threat of rain. I'm gonna have to look
at that during the break and see what's up. Otherwise,
drive yourself down the golf freeway to twenty three point
fifty one, hang a west and that gets you into
friends Wood and get you right down there to the
entrance to Timber Creek Golf Club. It's about three miles
west of the golf freeway. Twenty seven holes. Great people
down there, I mean, I harp on this a lot,

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because the people I work with at these golf courses
are genuinely that good. They're genuinely that concerned with whether
you have a good time or not. Everybody from the
GM who's been a friend of mine for fifteen twenty years,
down to the people who are riding around and serving
you drinks and snacks and whatnot on the golf course,

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over to JJ Woods and his crew at the Timber
Creek Golf Club Academy. They're all good people, and they
all want to make sure you have a good time,
and that's what golf's supposed to be. Set your own
tea time right now. Timber Creek goolf Club dot com.
Timber Creek Golf Club dot com. Seven point fifty on
Sports Talk seven to ninety The Doug Pike Show, Thank

(37:36):
you for listening, went and got myself a fresh cup
of coffee. I did during that break, and realized that
we still have not changed from we had a wonderful,
wonderful guy, Charlie. Charlie was here for the better part
of thirty years, maybe forty, I don't know. He was
here just as long as I can remember, and he

(37:57):
was in charge of making sure we had all the
stuff we need to run smoothly around here. And ever
since he left, we had normal eight ounce coffee cups,
little styrofoam cups. Fill them up. I think there were
eight there might have been ten ounces in any event,
Now we have these little things that are like it's
like what comes on top of a pepto bismol bottle

(38:18):
when you buy it, that little, that little specimen cup
looking thing. And yeah, I just was talking to Erica
back there in the k t r CH newsroom. When
are we gonna get some real cups again? Maybe we
might have to just bring some in. I think Eric
and I probably could pool our resources and bring in

(38:39):
a personal supply of real coffee cups the least we
could do. Let's see what's going on, Steve. Steve made
a point, by the way, Oh, let's see Mojo weighed
in on the fog in Montgomery County. Not as bad
as predicted, But it's nice. Bet the river bottoms are

(39:00):
socked in good. Yeah, that's that's kind of where. I'm
not on a river bottom, per se, but I am
close to a creek that that holds that moisture and
holds that little cloud on the ground. When the fog
really rolls in. And I had nothing this morning, to
nothing to speak of at all. There was a little wind,

(39:20):
little moisture on my windshield for about the first mile
and a half of my drive. And ever since Harvey,
ever since Harvey, every time I drive into a neighborhood,
I watch very closely for the rises and falls in elevation,
even subtle ones. Is the end of the street higher
or lower than where I am now? And it's really

(39:42):
a fascinating thing to watch and to take into account
when you're driving around town. If you look closely enough,
you'll see which house is going to be the first
one that gets water up to the doorstep. If the
water truly does rise, you can te And that's not
a bad thing to look for if you're trying to

(40:04):
move into a new house or something. If you put
a marble on the ground at the top of the
block and it rolls and stops in front of the
house you're thinking about buying, you might want to keep looking.
I don't think that's a very scientific test, and there's
ways to do it much better than that. Steve Wade
in a minute ago, when he was talking about that

(40:25):
hunting the fog, and he said, by the way, there
were two big old labs in the spread with us,
and in that fog. The whole time. They just kept
kind of leaning into us and would stay real close.
My dog was the same way. Now. If we jumped
up and started shooting, he was looking everywhere trying to
find what birds were falling. But while we were just

(40:46):
kind of hanging out waiting for the next bunch to come,
he'd kind of roll up into me and just lean
against me. I'm lying out, sprawled on the ground wherever
I was against the rice levy or whatever. And Steve
and that group and their two dogs had the same experience.
I think they're just a little bit confused by not

(41:07):
being able to see for as far as they want
to see, and they know that we're safe ground, they
know that we're that haven that they need just to
feel a little bit more comfortable. I do. I think
they have that much awareness of their surroundings, and it's
confusing and maybe a little bit intimidating to them to

(41:28):
not be able to see pass into their nose hardly. Ah,
we met man. We had some really really thick fogs
and actually that's just too much. You don't want it
where you can't see the hand in front of your face, because,
first of all, if it's that thick, the geese probably
aren't gonna fly at all, especially if it's got a
top on it as well as a bottom. There's a
lot of times there's ground fog where you can't hardly

(41:51):
see anything, but if you look straight up, you could
tell that it's just a thin layer of fog, and
the birds, the ducks, and the geese will get up
and just fly on top of that and move out.
You want it medium thick. Let's call it is medium rare.
If you're cooking a steak, it'd be medium rare. You
want fog from the ground up to about at least

(42:14):
one hundred hundred and fifty yards if you can get
it nice, big fat cloud sitting on you. But you
don't want zero visibility. You want about one hundred yards
maybe at least fifty seventy five yards, maybe one hundred
on the ground, and then looking up if you ever
get something that will fly over you and you can
kind of get an idea where they are, you want

(42:37):
them to be able to see your spread when they
get down to about fifteen twenty yards because in there
in range, aren't they And you do a little murmuring, Oh, man,
I'm just getting lost in the weeds. Coming up at
the top of the hour, by the way, and this
was requested yesterday. Oh, I can't remember. I gotta go
find this real quick because it was a wonderful idea

(42:58):
and I've got it. I'm going to pull it off
here in just a little bit. Oh where did it go?
Who sent me this? It may have been I'm not
sure who it was, but I'm gonna find it. During
the break when we come up here real quick. Somebody
asked me to reconnect with Scott Nole, who is Most
of you know who he is. He's the host of

(43:20):
the Bite Me podcast. He is one of my best
friends for thirty years, a go to source for anything
to do with shallow water fishing, and he also spent
weeks up there in the Hill country after that horrible
July fourth flood, and the conversations we had on air

(43:42):
back then when he was up there resonated so much
with this man, I'm going to see who I'll find it.
I'll find it resonated so much that he asked if
I could call Scott and ask him to come back
on and just kind of rehash what's going on since then,
whether he stayed in touch with the people he worked
with up there, just anything that he can share about

(44:05):
his experience up there and how that impacted his life.
And he's gonna do that. And when we come back
from this break, I'm gonna go to that break early
so I can kind of squeeze a little bit more
time out of him and if we can, if we
can button it all up in one segment, we will.
If he's got more to talk about when we finished
that first segment, I might go into the second with it,

(44:27):
because that was that was life changing for every one
of us. If if that flood didn't change you in
some way for the better, then yeah, check your pulse.
American shooting centers, I'm sure they're opening ready to go
by now. It probably opened at eight maybe, I don't know, seven,

(44:48):
I'm not sure. If there's not a whole lot of
fog out there, you're gonna if you live anywhere near there,
you're gonna start hearing it. You're gonna start here. And
everybody who's out there trying to get a little bit
better at their shooting sports stuff before they go on
that big deer hunt, before they go on that big
goose hunt, and you've got plenty of room to spread
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(45:09):
They've got three complete sporting places, courses, they have traping,
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and pay for all of that. Buy a couple of
twenty two's, get out there and shoot the just plink

(45:31):
at those little targets they start, I want to say
it like twenty five thirty yards and go all the
way out to more than two hundred yards, and shooting
a twenty two at two hundred yards, you'd make a
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(45:53):
man who bought the place eight or ten years ago.
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(46:14):
Centers dot com. Now here's Doug Pike eight oh two
on Sports Talk seven ninety The Duck Pike Show. Thank
you for listening. I'm doing this. I still I didn't
get a chance to look for whoever asked me to
do this. But as soon as I got the request,
I said, there's no way I can't do it. So

(46:34):
what I'm gonna do right now is bring in. Let
me find my button? Here, hold on, I got it,
Franky CAP's got no what's going on? My friend?

Speaker 3 (46:43):
Oh much?

Speaker 7 (46:43):
Man? You found your button?

Speaker 1 (46:46):
Are you sitting in a duck blind or a deer
stand or what?

Speaker 2 (46:49):
Well?

Speaker 1 (46:49):
You wouldn't be in a duck blind, would you?

Speaker 3 (46:52):
No? I mean I've got duck hunting across the road
there at the rank that a deer hunt on.

Speaker 7 (46:57):
We duck hunt on it from time time.

Speaker 1 (46:58):
That's nice. It's not a bad.

Speaker 3 (47:02):
Places.

Speaker 7 (47:02):
It's not real bigs. We try not to push it
real hard.

Speaker 1 (47:05):
Yeah, that's a good idea. That's because you know what
you're doing. So let's I got asked to get you
on the phone and kind of go back to July,
back to when you were sitting at the house, got
your feet propped up, and you see a news crawl
come across the bottom of the screen or they break

(47:25):
in to give this horrible news about this horrible flood
that's going on in the Hill Country. And after I
talked to you, I talked to Camille, and she said,
your wife, Camille for of many years. She said she
knew just from the way you were looking at the
TV that it was she might as well go ahead
and pack a lunch and get your suitcase out, because

(47:47):
you weren't staying at home, were you.

Speaker 3 (47:49):
No.

Speaker 7 (47:50):
I was, as I got it, I was walking around
in the shop.

Speaker 3 (47:54):
Yeah, And that's what I do both mornings when I
don't have a deer hunt or a fishing trip, wind
up of come over to the shop and kind of
wander around and go, Okay, this one will get done today.

Speaker 7 (48:04):
And it was all over.

Speaker 3 (48:06):
Everybody's news feeds on social media stuff. And then they
started talking about how many little girls are missing, and yeah,
I've got a granddaughter of that age. And it was
just something about it that started hitting me, and I
started pasting, and I was just.

Speaker 7 (48:26):
Wandering around in here. And then I found out.

Speaker 3 (48:28):
One of my buddies from high school his niece was
one of the ones that was missing, and size had
that hit even harder.

Speaker 7 (48:36):
You know, I'm still wandering around. And we came over
here and she said, what are you doing today? You
know what you're gonna get done today? And I says,
I don't know.

Speaker 3 (48:45):
I can't concentrate, I can't getting evening done. I'll keep
thinking about those kids. And she says, you're thinking about going,
aren't you, And.

Speaker 7 (48:52):
I said, yeah, I am. She said, well, let me
go get some stuff packed up. You go get your What.

Speaker 3 (48:58):
Are you gonna do you, you know, take just show up.
And I said, yeah, I'm just gonna show up with
my skids steer. We'll go ahead and get the skids
steer on the trailer.

Speaker 7 (49:05):
And I'll go start packing you some stuff up.

Speaker 3 (49:09):
I said, yeah, I'll just go up there for three
or four days, sure, and help them move the heavy
stuff with the skids steer, get it out of the
way and then let the let the searchers do their thing,
you know, behind that. And yeah, twenty three days later,
I packed up came home.

Speaker 1 (49:27):
Man, are the I'm sure they are, but I'll have
to ask. Are the memories of being up there still
as vivid as they were when you were there?

Speaker 3 (49:36):
Oh? Yeah, yeah, that's something never forget. I can't tell
you what I ate for breakfast yesterday. Sure I can
tell you pretty much everything we did up there, and
just step bust up the guys. Yeah, everything is really clear.
The people that were there, you know, the people of

(50:00):
Center Point where I went, Uh, just wonderful folks. I mean,
they had us back up there for the first football
game of the year.

Speaker 7 (50:10):
Yeah, they brought us out.

Speaker 3 (50:11):
Onto the field and thanked us, and it was it
was a pretty cool deal. A whole bunch of the
guys I worked with showed up.

Speaker 1 (50:19):
Did you did you feel a heavy sense of frustration
when you when you didn't find anything, when we didn't
feel like it was enough, or did you ever even
feel that?

Speaker 3 (50:31):
Now? I had my guys going and they were working hard,
good time every every day, and we'd having pep talk
in the mornings, and yeah, just tell each other.

Speaker 7 (50:45):
Yeah, this is what we're doing. We're doing it for
a good reason.

Speaker 1 (50:48):
Yeah, no complaints. Who's barking in the background.

Speaker 3 (50:53):
One of the smil's off sees that's what the lab.
Oh yeah, they got they got the lab pinned.

Speaker 1 (50:59):
Oh gosh, that's not going to work out well for
him if that lab changes his mind, is it.

Speaker 9 (51:06):
Now?

Speaker 7 (51:06):
She's she's about had enough.

Speaker 3 (51:08):
And when she has, when she gets to the poison's
had enough of it.

Speaker 1 (51:12):
Yeah, she will let him know.

Speaker 3 (51:14):
She'll take off and she'll run real hard, and she'll
go straight to the pond.

Speaker 1 (51:18):
Oh, and run and.

Speaker 7 (51:20):
Jump in the pond.

Speaker 3 (51:21):
And she stands out there about twenty yards into the
pond and goes, y'all can't come get me, Yeah, come
on out.

Speaker 1 (51:27):
You can't swim as far out.

Speaker 3 (51:29):
So. But now, as far as the frustration stuff there,
there wasn't. I mean, there was times she got so
wound up because you knew.

Speaker 1 (51:37):
Yeah, but you knew you had a body nearby.

Speaker 7 (51:40):
Yeah, and you knew.

Speaker 3 (51:42):
Because the cadaver dogs were out there in forest, and
the cadaver dog's telling you, yeah, there's something here you
just need Now I've told you where it is. It's
kind of like an East egg hunt, where you know, hey,
if in this yard, yeah now you just got it.
Now I need you to find itsh The core parto

(52:04):
was there was so many guys out there that had
the same mentality that I have when I get my
mindset on something, and they had the same mentality they
won't quit.

Speaker 7 (52:15):
They won't leave.

Speaker 3 (52:17):
I put together a group of guys, I just grab volunteers, sure,
and I was.

Speaker 7 (52:24):
It was all centered at the fire station.

Speaker 3 (52:27):
And I would go up there and seem I can
read people pretty well from all my years and homeicide,
and I would go up there and just kind of
stand around a little bit in the mornings when I
was getting my assignment for the day.

Speaker 1 (52:40):
And where you know, where they wanted my crew to work.

Speaker 7 (52:42):
They would they'd map it out and.

Speaker 3 (52:43):
Say, hey, you know we we could use this area
checked and cleared.

Speaker 7 (52:48):
And I would stand up there and.

Speaker 3 (52:51):
Pick guys and go, okay, you know young young military firemen.

Speaker 7 (52:57):
Yeah, yeah, I could pick those out.

Speaker 3 (53:00):
And then guys my age or so that were standing
around there and they had a chainsaw under their arm
or they yeah, they had real work gloves, said, you know,
heavy duty work gloves they had. They had that farmer
rancher a little bottom and I'd go, okay, you're You're.

Speaker 7 (53:19):
On my team.

Speaker 3 (53:20):
And some of the best I had were like that,
and it was it was it was inspiring to have
that kind of people around you.

Speaker 7 (53:31):
And I had.

Speaker 3 (53:32):
I built up a crew and the guys at the
headquarters started calling the Redneck crew. And because they would
send us to something weird.

Speaker 7 (53:42):
Yeah, after a while, you know, they.

Speaker 3 (53:45):
Got to where he sending the Redneck crew over there
and see if they can figure this out.

Speaker 2 (53:51):
And it was.

Speaker 3 (53:53):
If it wasn't such a serious, devastating.

Speaker 7 (53:56):
Situation, it would have been fun.

Speaker 3 (53:59):
And it sounds weird, but in a camaraderie way, it
was fun to have guys around me that had the
same attitude, the same same thought process, and Okay, how
can we figure this out?

Speaker 7 (54:13):
How can we get this done?

Speaker 1 (54:15):
The fun part, I think would be knowing that it
was let me change your word a little bit, instead
of fun, was it rewarding the reward that you knew
your team was gonna get. That's what made it fun,
isn't it right? Yeah?

Speaker 3 (54:30):
Okay, that that in the camaraderie. I hadn't filmed with
the camaraderie since I left the police department.

Speaker 1 (54:36):
Wow, you're still in touch with some of those guys.

Speaker 3 (54:39):
Oh, yeah, yeah, we've I've got probably I guess three
different group texts that we go back and forth with,
and yeah, one of them is it's really fun. My
main crew that had towards the end, the guys that
stuck it out.

Speaker 7 (54:57):
Two three weeks wo. We have the title of our
little groups, the Woo Woo group. It was just one
of those woo at the end of the day. Yeah
here and.

Speaker 2 (55:09):
So yeah, it's.

Speaker 7 (55:11):
They're they're just great, great guys, but scattered.

Speaker 3 (55:14):
Out all over Texas and we're trying to get back together.
One of us gonna come down and fish with me
here for too long?

Speaker 7 (55:20):
Yeah, I mean we're all staying staying in touch. Pretty well.

Speaker 3 (55:24):
Everybody went back to their lives and everybody still got
their mind on it though.

Speaker 1 (55:29):
Yeah, I'm sure is there at any point did you
just say what if we could do this but you
weren't able to do that? Or did you have all
the resources you really needed?

Speaker 7 (55:40):
It was odd in the very beginning.

Speaker 10 (55:42):
Yes, it was like, man, I wish I had this, Yeah,
I wish I had that. And after after my crew
had cleared a couple of the areas. They would send
us into an area that that'd map it out give
it to me.

Speaker 7 (55:56):
I'd picked my volunteers and.

Speaker 3 (55:58):
Have them, you know, we'd all travel over wherever that
area was and it may be five acres or it
may be one hundred acres, and then I'd kind of
give them an idea of how long it would take
us to clear it. And then my crew cleared it
in half the time that I had estimated, you know.
And so they kind of got an idea that we

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were running a good group. And me and one other
guy ad them guy from poland there's just solid gold,
and we budied up and kind of put our groups together.
And then at that point they said, whatever y'all need,
just call us.

Speaker 7 (56:36):
And at one.

Speaker 3 (56:37):
Point we were clearing an old nineteen forties gravel pit
and we had to have pumps.

Speaker 7 (56:46):
I told them we need big pumps. And we pumped
this gravel pit.

Speaker 3 (56:50):
Out in a day and a half and by using
truckloaded pumps that they brought to me. Then we needed
to give it a fifty thousand pound excavator down to
the bottom of it to clear all the debris.

Speaker 7 (57:04):
Oh and they got me a fifty thousand pound excavator.
My excavator guy says, I can't get my X down
in there because it's too it's too soft.

Speaker 3 (57:14):
So I called up and I got two eighteen wheelers
loads of those mats that they used to build pipelines. Yeah. Wow,
And they were delivered that afternoon. I asked for an
amphibious excavator on one of my sites where I couldn't
get a regular X in. A day later, here rolls
up on an eighteen wheelers and amphibious excavator.

Speaker 1 (57:35):
Oh my gosh, God, that must have felt so good,
you know.

Speaker 7 (57:39):
Yeah, it was.

Speaker 3 (57:40):
That was what I mean by it was rewarding your
fun or however you want to put it. Was. There
was other people above me that were trusting me with it, yeah,
and saying, Okay, what this dude over here, whatever he
asked for.

Speaker 7 (57:55):
Is getting it done. Get it, gets it done. Just
get them what they need.

Speaker 1 (58:00):
Know you guys, I know you guys found a lot
of personal items. Did you dig out anything and look
at it and just like make it maybe remind you
of your daughter, grandchildren, or your friend's daughter, anything like
that that just really moved you.

Speaker 3 (58:17):
Constantly I mean there was the kids shoes, those were tough,
and the various stuffed animals and Teddy bears and things like.

Speaker 7 (58:29):
That were out there. Yeah, there was a lot of that.
There's one I've got.

Speaker 3 (58:34):
And there was a Facebook group that still is of
getting people their belongings back, and I turned in tons
of I told all my guys, I said, you find
something that looks personal buried up in the mud, and
you know, whatever, whatever it is, just bring it over

(58:54):
to me and we'll put it in my truck. And
they had a spot for us to put things.

Speaker 7 (59:00):
And one of them didn't get didn't get.

Speaker 3 (59:03):
Picked up, and I put it out there multiple times.

Speaker 7 (59:06):
Is a blue stuffed rabbit?

Speaker 3 (59:09):
Oh that little blue stuff rabbit sitting sitting here in
my office? Oh man, Yeah, I put it out several times.

Speaker 1 (59:17):
Yeah.

Speaker 7 (59:18):
A baseball.

Speaker 3 (59:20):
You know, one area, I don't know what the deal was,
but I found like a hundred golf balls.

Speaker 1 (59:27):
Oh wow.

Speaker 3 (59:28):
I was just walking one of the areas after my
guys had cleared it. I was going through and double
checking and it was just golf balls just everywhere.

Speaker 7 (59:35):
It was very odd.

Speaker 3 (59:36):
I don't know if somebody that lives down there just
hits balls off into the river or.

Speaker 1 (59:40):
What sounds like you were walking down the right side
of the fareweale number three at black Hawk and a
lot of them would have had iHeart logos on them.

Speaker 3 (59:48):
Yeah. I picked one out. I picked out a pretty
good one. Yeah, and there was pretty clean. Yeah, I
picked it out. It's sitting in my truck and I
was just thinking, Yeah, it's gonna be my Putton ball.

Speaker 1 (59:59):
There you go, man oh man. So what what's the
one memory that that's gonna stick with you forever, no
matter how fried your brain gets one year old? What's
the one thing that really stands out? Scott?

Speaker 3 (01:00:15):
Probably in the evenings and we would all go up
to the headquarters and there's a fellow there named Arturo
who cooked over thirty thousand.

Speaker 7 (01:00:25):
Plates over that three week period.

Speaker 3 (01:00:28):
He's he's a Food Network guy, Parrel Ramon, and he's
been on all these different cooking shows.

Speaker 7 (01:00:35):
And he's just an unbelievable guy. And he did not cook.

Speaker 3 (01:00:41):
Us just bes stuff. In the evenings it was beef
tips and rights. Then, I mean it was hards really
party gourmet foods and sitting around up there with my
guys and the guys from a couple other crews. Ar
Turro would always he knew that we would work late.

(01:01:02):
There was a lot of a lot of people were
leaving at four or five o'clock. It's hot and they
were worn out. My guys wanted to.

Speaker 7 (01:01:08):
Work till dark.

Speaker 1 (01:01:09):
Wow.

Speaker 7 (01:01:10):
And our turo knew that.

Speaker 1 (01:01:11):
And so he would hold back some food for us.

Speaker 3 (01:01:14):
And been sitting around there all the all the police
officers from all over the firemen from all over the country,
they were all hanging out there because you know, they
were they were taking over the shift for the center
point guys, and uh so they could go get some
rest and they come up there and hang out the headquarters.
And it was a big Kumbai I in the evenings.

(01:01:35):
And I'm sure that's the part I guess it's like
the police department everybody thought. He was asking me, you know,
what's the worst thing you ever saw in that? Honestly,
I hit kind of a control to lead on that man.
That's what That's how you keep your brain saying, sure,
and but you remember the the good parts and the
funny parts, and you know the things that that happened

(01:01:58):
along the way where you shake your head and that
that wouldn't happen in any other situation than that, you know, uh,
you know a few of the rougher ones stick with you,
and of course yeah they're buried, but they're there and
that's Yeah. The outdoors is what got me through the
police department.

Speaker 7 (01:02:16):
Yeah, and outdoors gets me through this.

Speaker 3 (01:02:18):
You know, I can come back, go hunt and go fishing,
go do my thing, get reset.

Speaker 7 (01:02:24):
And I've had.

Speaker 3 (01:02:25):
Several people ask me, spaan you you put a lot
into that. It had to take a lot out of you.
If it flooded like that again tomorrow, what would what
would your response be? I sai, I'd be getting my trailer,
getting my get my saws and heading in that direction.

Speaker 1 (01:02:41):
And if you, if God forbid that would ever happen again,
I would just I would just text you and say
what time you're leaving? You know, I know you you're
not gonna stop doing that. That's in you, man, And
I on behalf of everybody you helped with, whatever you
found and whatever you cleared up there. Yeah, thank you man.
All right, you know that, you know I mean that. Yeah?

Speaker 3 (01:03:04):
Yeah, uh you mentioned to bite me on the intro. Yeah,
we did our we did our fitting. Feeding frenzy in
September and John Lopez surprised me with a plaque and
he started, ah, I forgot it's some kind of an
award deal that I.

Speaker 7 (01:03:23):
Forgot the name of it. Now on this just Johne blank.

Speaker 3 (01:03:26):
But he made an award and made me a plaque,
and he wants to do it as an annual deal
that our charity feeding Frenzy and want to present it
to somebody who you know, who exemplified whatever I did.

Speaker 1 (01:03:42):
Yeah, well that's that's gonna be. That's a pretty tall
hill to climb. I'm telling you right now.

Speaker 3 (01:03:47):
We're gonna have a little committee and we're gonna get
together and you know, we watched our Facebook page and sure,
you know, we know what what a lot of people
are doing on the on the backside, and we you know,
we we've made friends to have Facebook and through that
fighting page, and no doubt a lot of good people
that we've that we've met along the way, just like
you with your listeners. And so we're gonna we're gonna

(01:04:09):
keep the John A.

Speaker 7 (01:04:10):
Wanst to making an annual thing, keep the tradition going.
All right, it's kind of interesting.

Speaker 3 (01:04:16):
That it choked.

Speaker 7 (01:04:18):
He mean, it takes a lot to choke me up.

Speaker 3 (01:04:20):
But he did it on that one man because they
was a total surprise.

Speaker 7 (01:04:24):
I had no idea they were doing that.

Speaker 1 (01:04:26):
Well, I'm I'm happy for you, I'm happy for whoever
the recipients are, and of future awards like that, and
mostly I'm happy for the people they helped. That's that's
what's rewarding to me, is seeing that that there are
still people like you and the people who are gonna
win this award in the future, that are are willing
to just stop whatever they're doing and go do what

(01:04:49):
they know is the right thing to do. Thank you,
Scott Man for the bottom of my heart, and everybody
listening to this show, thank you for doing what you
did and and for sharing with us this morning. Sure
my pleasure.

Speaker 4 (01:05:02):
Man.

Speaker 1 (01:05:03):
We'll talk soon, yeah, I hope so, hopefully in a
deer stand somewhere.

Speaker 7 (01:05:08):
Yeh.

Speaker 1 (01:05:09):
All right, man, I'm gonna take some time off. I'm
gonna give you a call. Good, I'm here, I'm ready, Okay,
Thank you Scott for real. All right, Yes, sir, it's
one of the nicest guys on a planet, one of
the best guys to have on your team. If you
need something fixed. I don't care what it is, Frankie,

(01:05:30):
ask ask Mike if he'll just hang on for a
minute so I can get through this this break real quick,
and he will be first up, and I'll give him
all the time he wants when he gets. When we
get back on the way out, I'm gonna tell you
about Phoenix Knives. That's Cowboys and Manski and his crew
out there in Belleville, right there on Main Street, since
nineteen seventy nine. Now they're in a bigger space than originally,

(01:05:51):
which has only allowed him to bring in more journeymen
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them available for sale. Any kind of knife you can imagine,
you will get it through Phoenix Knives, even if they
have to custom make it, any bladed thing, it'll come
as beautiful as they get. Now it's too late to

(01:06:12):
get Cowboy to make you a custom knife for Christmas.
I'm telling you right now, you'd be lucky to get
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that's what you're looking for. But there are still many,
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there in Belleville. There's a you can go out. You
take the whole family out there and just walk in

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we would like to learn how to build a knife.
And before you leave there, you will have built a
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Phoenix knives dot com. Hey, twenty seven on Sports Talk

(01:07:02):
seven ninety We're running late, aren't we. I got a
short segment, but I'm gonna get I'm gonna get Mike
and Dave in. By the way, somebody speaking of Captain
Scott and all, somebody at the Saint Jude Tournament won
a guided polling for redfish trip with him. I don't
know who bought the trip, but you're in for a treat,

(01:07:23):
believe me. Hey, Mike, what's up man?

Speaker 3 (01:07:26):
Hey?

Speaker 4 (01:07:26):
How you doing, Doug? I'm good, good, Hey. I just
want to tell you a quick waterfowl story. When I
was a kid, I graduated for Lamar in seventy six.
That gives you an idea how old I am used
to hunt out at Bear Creek. We had some friends
who had some property.

Speaker 7 (01:07:42):
Wow.

Speaker 4 (01:07:42):
And it was during the split season where you could
go dove hunting and dust hunting. Okay, and my brother
and I went out to Bear Creek. It was before
there was anything left to Bear Creek on the road.
There was the golf course on the road and nothing
on the left.

Speaker 1 (01:07:56):
Oh I remember.

Speaker 4 (01:07:56):
So we drove and went out. We were gonna go
to duve hunt. I mean, but you know, we'd see
these geese off to the right and to the left,
just you know, right out of range.

Speaker 1 (01:08:06):
Oh boy, thousands of them right, oh boy.

Speaker 4 (01:08:08):
And it was a blue sky day and there's nowhere
we could get. And this was when I don't know
if you remember, maybe before your time, but there were
a couple of kids people that were killed out there
because home the landowners didn't like people on their property
and there and they shut two people.

Speaker 1 (01:08:25):
No I don't remember that. I'm kind of glad I don't.

Speaker 4 (01:08:27):
This was this was way back when, and that's what
they used to do, they because they killed their livestock.

Speaker 3 (01:08:33):
And wow, they get here anyway.

Speaker 4 (01:08:37):
So we were sitting there and my brother who always thought,
oh you know, know you're talking about he's an older brother.
You know, and we were stopped there. We go, man,
I wish we could we could, We could probably crawl
out because there was high grass right by the fence
on out to them, crawl out on our bellies and
and and there was a barn there, and so you know,

(01:08:57):
there's nobody out there. And my mother goes, let's asked
this guy coming up. There was a guy in the
truck coming up, and I go, proberty, he's not gonna
held on this property. Sure enough, he pulls him.

Speaker 3 (01:09:09):
Mom.

Speaker 4 (01:09:10):
He goes, hey, do you do you own this property?
And the guy goes, no, I don't own the property,
but I do own the barn. And uh, he goes.
I go. My brother says, well, we would just like
to crawl out there and see if we shoot those
You think we do that? He goes, oh, yeah, go ahead.
My brother comes back, goes, yeah, we can do it.

Speaker 1 (01:09:26):
I go, you're kidding.

Speaker 4 (01:09:28):
So we crawl on our belly four foot high grass,
and you know, the dunts the geese were coming in
over us. And as we got closer, there were talking
more and more and more, and the wind was to
our back and we could tell her getting ready to
get up, and so we look and they start getting
up and we stand up and there's this what this
wall of geese that gets up and he's pulling away

(01:09:51):
and we just got up and you just shot into it.
We got like nine geese and uh you it was
just it was it.

Speaker 1 (01:10:01):
Was unbelievable, unforgettable.

Speaker 4 (01:10:04):
All the people out there would talk to a guy
who would let it time. That's good, and then we
had to clean him of course.

Speaker 1 (01:10:10):
Yes, of course, all right, well it is what it is.
Thank you, Mike. That's a good story man. All right, man,
this is another one.

Speaker 4 (01:10:18):
This is the important of people mentoring younger kids.

Speaker 1 (01:10:21):
Hey, I got to work through, Mike. I'm sorry, but
I got a run. Catch Dave man. He's been waiting
a long time too.

Speaker 4 (01:10:27):
Another day, another day you get Yeah.

Speaker 1 (01:10:29):
Tomorrow, call me back tomorrow. All right, bye bye, all right.
I promised, Dave, and I'm gonna keep my promise. What's up, Dave?

Speaker 2 (01:10:36):
Hey?

Speaker 8 (01:10:36):
Yeah, thank thanks missus Scott for what Lord help me? Yeah,
sons I went for Sons of the American Legion Classic
Car and Bike Show. Awesome, it's here's uh yeah, ten
ninety seventies. Willis that we got?

Speaker 3 (01:10:50):
Hey, guys, what do you got over here.

Speaker 2 (01:10:52):
What is this car?

Speaker 4 (01:10:54):
Nineteen twenty nine?

Speaker 2 (01:10:55):
Mout a roaster?

Speaker 8 (01:10:56):
Oh wow, twenty nine? And what's over here? Yeah, look
at that. Oh we had a dragture come up over here. Well,
y'all come on out here. Doors open today, already open today,
registered nine voting at eleven were given out free Hamburgers
and this goes for the pearl seeds. Go to the

(01:11:19):
US program here tomorrow, Collegion.

Speaker 1 (01:11:21):
That's where are you now?

Speaker 7 (01:11:24):
Uh?

Speaker 8 (01:11:24):
That's at uh ten ninety seven East Willis, Texas. Yeah, yeah,
it's right there, American Legion Post six eighteen.

Speaker 1 (01:11:34):
All right, Dave, have a good day out there.

Speaker 8 (01:11:36):
Man, Hey Ben, I'll tell you what. We're gonna have
a good time before you go see some of this
fire fire. There's one car down here that looks like
it's on fire with yellow. It's red with yellow flames
coming up.

Speaker 1 (01:11:49):
Oh man, sim hit picture day cool all right, buddy, sir,
All right, man, I got a roll. I'll see you.
All right. We're gonna go from flaming cars to electric
bikes air ride bikes up there in Tomball at the
Four Corners shopping Center where Wayne Errington, the man who

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owns a store will not only let you test ride
a couple of those bicycles, he will professionally assemble it.
If you buy one, it has to come out of
the box and make sure that when it gets home
it'll perform exactly what you want and how you want it.
He's even got three wheel bikes up there too. If
your balance isn't what it used to be. I talk
about this sum on fifty plus. If your balance isn't

(01:12:34):
quite right, isn't quite what you want it to be,
then you can get a three wheel electric bike and
enjoy that on your ride to the grocery store or
to the drug store without ever even having to get
on the road. I guess, maybe cross the street or
something like that. And if you are nice and balanced
and you want a little bit better experience, a little

(01:12:54):
bit not better experience, but a different experience, more of
a traditional bike ride. There are commuter bikes, and then
there are bikes in there all the way up to
and including these big, heavy duties, super powerful ones. There's
one that Wayne says, kind of jokingly, if it could
get traction, it could climb a wall with you on it,
with me on it, and with us towing a deer

(01:13:14):
behind it. It could do that. It's a great thing
to use for getting to and from the deer stand
because it doesn't leave any human scent on the ground.
Also a great thing to use driving up and down
the beach looking for looking for fish in the summertime.
Air ride Bikes dot Com is the website. They've got
all kinds of different models up there. And when Wayne

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showed me how they work and let me ride one
couple of months ago, I was hooked. I gotta get
one of those things, I really do. I don't know
when I'm gonna be able to do it, but I'm
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Take thirty eight on Sports Talk seven to ninety the
Duckpike showed, thank you for listening. Let me you know
what someone three seven ninety email me Doug pick Atiheartmedia
dot Com. I got a hunch I know what's coming here.
What's up, John?

Speaker 6 (01:14:12):
Well, I've heard you talking a few times mentioning a
late migration of waterfowl and some uh not hard data.
But I've got a place out in Mavaka County I'm
outside a lot, and I always noticed the uh the
uh uh san jail is going over in the fall,
and this year I think, you know, and it's not

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like Wenesday Tuesdays. There's a lot that go by all
throughout usually October, and this year the first group I
saw go over was like last week on one of
these fronts.

Speaker 3 (01:14:44):
Wow.

Speaker 6 (01:14:45):
And I don't know if that supports your late migration
of other waterfowl. It's what do you call analytical, not
analytics whatever, empirical just no, no, just the abbsolute imperial
yet starts with an anecdotal anecdotal data. Just you know,

(01:15:06):
it supports your observations or what you're hearing from folks.
I don't know if anybody else. But anyway, what I
really wanted to comment on.

Speaker 2 (01:15:15):
Was a few weeks ago, it's been it's been eating
at me.

Speaker 6 (01:15:18):
We talked I'm a bow hunter all all through the season,
and you mentioned about how that little rain we had
one time, so that'll be good for you sneaking in
and qwice you're crunching on the leaves. Well, I'm a
I'm an offer a different opinion. That's fine. My opinion
is there's no sneaking in, especially to a bow stand.

(01:15:40):
If they're deer in the area, there's no no sneaking in.
You just got to get there early because because hey,
the movement, they're going to pick up the movement. You
can't walk into anywhere and not have all the deer
in that.

Speaker 2 (01:15:53):
Zip code know about it.

Speaker 6 (01:15:55):
So I prefer no rain. I love a dry fall
because once you're in your stand, that crunch crunch crunch
of a deer walking in lets you know way before
you normally would hear it if it's wet ground, and
get you a more chance to get ready. Well, there's that,

(01:16:15):
and after a while I'm gonna I'm gonna offer as well,
you can tell the difference between a deer walking in
and a squirrel or an armadillo wrestling around. That first
sound of a squirrel, you know, get your your attention.
Then you go, oh, that's just a squirrel messing around,
or that's an armadill wrestling around. I agree, because there's
that's it's so distinct. Crunch crunch crunch, Cause crunch crunch, crunch,

(01:16:41):
you know it's a deer. The only thing that will
throw you on that is a turkey walking in.

Speaker 2 (01:16:46):
Sound just like it.

Speaker 6 (01:16:48):
I I had a heart attack one time where with
a turkey coming up straight behind me and turn around
you need deer turn and that's this big old gobbler
walks by.

Speaker 2 (01:16:59):
Well fooled me.

Speaker 6 (01:17:01):
So anyway, a.

Speaker 2 (01:17:02):
Drive fall I like.

Speaker 6 (01:17:04):
Okay, just just a different opinion.

Speaker 1 (01:17:07):
No, there's nothing wrong with that opinion at all. I
do agree with you that if you, if you've done
it enough times, you can tell the difference between the
deer and this quarrel. There's no question. Yeah, I agree. Yeah,
But for for early my differ.

Speaker 6 (01:17:18):
Was whether or not you're going to sneak into a
some habitat, whether there's no sneaking in. They've they've done that.
They've done this for enough millennia that that and the
reason they're still alive is because you can't sneak up
on them.

Speaker 1 (01:17:33):
You may or may not have heard me tell the
story about hunting down in Corrizo Springs once on a
big high fence ranch where I was putting the ground
blind and I'm sitting there and I just the first
time I'd ever sat in a stand on this ranch,
and they said, yeah, we got some pretty good deer
out there. If you see a nice one, you know,
this is what we want to take out of here.
And I'm sitting there and it's getting later, and I

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hear something walking up behind me, and it's getting closer,
and it's closer and it's closer, and now I can
hear it breathing behind me, and I need to take
a look at what the heck this deer looks like
so it doesn't just come in here and stomp me.
And so helped me.

Speaker 7 (01:18:10):
John.

Speaker 1 (01:18:10):
I turned around and was almost nose to nose with
a bull elk that I didn't know was even on
the ranch, and I almost just lost it, man, just like,
oh my god. I kept my cool, and you know,
he just kind of okay, yeah, I've seen you out
here before. I've seen something like you out here before.

(01:18:31):
And he just turned and walked off. But you talk about,
you know, hey, I could have used that information beforehand
before I got in this groundstand. I look around. There's
something seven feet tall behind me, Like, holy cow, that's funny.

Speaker 6 (01:18:43):
When you said you heard her breathe, and I go, okay,
it's not going to be a deer unless they're running
a buck, running a dough. You're not gonna hear it breathing,
they'll pants. I thought you're going to say, bull anger.

Speaker 1 (01:18:57):
No, I'm looking right up the nostrils, his nostrils for
the biggest silver dollars man, and he's just like, hey, man,
get away.

Speaker 3 (01:19:05):
From me, all right, pardon wow.

Speaker 1 (01:19:08):
Always a pleasure, all right, hey, John? Yeah, he makes
a good point. If you're a bow hunter and you've
been a bow hunter for a long time, you kind
of figure it out. And the fog is when it's
really fun. The leaves are damp, so it doesn't make
as much crunching, but in the fog, anything you hear
gets multiplied, like I was talking about before, because you
can't see. Even if you turn around, you can't see

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what's making that noise. It's just so fun to be outdoors.
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The Shooters cornerx dot com eight forty eight on Sports
Talk at seven ninety The Dugplike Show. Thank you for listening.
I certainly do appreciate it. Rudy sent me an email,
and I'm sending him a reply as we speak. That

(01:21:19):
takes care of that. And I'm gonna address what Rudy
was asking me about because it was on my list
pretty high up actually this morning, and we just got
diverted and ended up. I got that conversation that I
wanted to do with Scott ol Dunn, and now I'm
gonna ask what do you think about this federal no

(01:21:40):
drones thing as it applies now to phishing. I'm not
a fan. I did a brief interview, and I think
there's probably only two little, very small snippets of what
I actually said that made it to the story. I
didn't hear the final edition or version of the story

(01:22:01):
over on KTRH, but here's the version for now. I
don't have a problem saying no to using drones to
find deer. If you're sitting in a blind and you
haven't seen any big deer and it's okay to use drones,
and you put one up and you realize that there's

(01:22:21):
a big, old giant buck two hundred yards away on
the other side of a little hedgerow or something. That's
kind of cheating. I don't like that. I don't mind cameras.
If you've got cameras out there and you want to
check the images on your cameras, that's fine, because you've
still got to get in there and hope that deer
comes back. But in real time, to have an aerial

(01:22:46):
camera flying around the ranch looking for deer or looking
for exotics or whatever, that doesn't seem like fair chase
to me. And to some degree, I think the same
is true if you're throwing a drone in the air
to find schools of redfish along shallow shorelines. I think

(01:23:07):
it takes a little bit of the spirit of the
sport away that you can just me one of those
things goes up there and run down half a mile
shoreline and back, or I don't know how far those
things can fly, but however far and back, and however
far and back when you move the boat, I would

(01:23:28):
much prefer, because I'm old school, to just pull gently
and slowly along that shoreline, looking ahead with my own eyeballs,
to hopefully trip over school of redfish somewhere. Aerial surveillance
has been used to find fish for decades. They put

(01:23:50):
up airplanes and helicopters to find schools of redfish and
tuna and men hayden and all kinds of things that
ultimately get netted in big purse, says. And that's a different,
slightly different because it's commercial operation, but it's still I

(01:24:13):
don't I wouldn't, frankly, I'd love it if they'd make that.
Not okay, even on the commercial side, Boy, we'd have
a lot more fish if they couldn't find one hundred
acres of redfish with that airplane and then go run
a big perse sing around it and scoop up every
one of them, along with the dolphins and the jackfish
and the tarpa and and everything else that's swimming with them.

(01:24:34):
I wouldn't mind that. But to take away the ability
of shark fishermen on the beach, and there aren't that
many people doing that anyway, to take away their ability
to get a bait out into deeper water, faster and
more safely than a lot of other methods. I think

(01:24:58):
I called it in the interview. I don't know if
it but it's a little bit of an overreach. I
don't think that there's enough issue with using a drone
to drop half a benito two hundred yards off shore
to warrant making it illegal, because what still going to

(01:25:18):
happen that the shark fishermen are going to get their
baits out there. Even back to when I was young
and we were we fancied ourselves sharp fishermen on the beach.
Sometimes somebody was designated to either get in the ten
dollars inflatable raft that we bought at a discount store
somewhere and paddle that bait out through the through the

(01:25:40):
surf and through whatever was out there, and then drop
it off the side and paddle back in or on
a surfboard. I was explaining to Eric over in the
newsroom about this just yesterday. We would go out, We
would go to the beach, set up in the evening
and then get on a surfboard almost at dark and

(01:26:00):
just kind of pinched the leader line between your toes
and drag out six eight ten pound chunks of bloody benito.
And when you got out far enough, the guy on
shore would just lock the reel and it would the
line would slip out from between your toes and you
turn around and paddle back through that bloody trail you left.

(01:26:23):
Nothing could have gone wrong then, right that there shark fishing,
because you know there's big sharks coming in close at night,
and you're paddling and leaving a blood trail, and then
when you drop off that bloody chunk, you turn around
and paddle right back through the blood. It's a wondering
nothing ever happened from that. But it didn't, not at

(01:26:45):
least not to my knowledge, Not to my knowledge, Steve
Wade in just my opinion, Doug, Well, if they're gonna
ban using drones, they should ban using livescope. They're actually
they're There is comparison that can be made between the
two because it does show you exactly where the fish are,

(01:27:07):
kind of like a drone would show you where a
fish or a deer was. And I think the cat
got too far out of the bag with livescope before
anybody really realized what it was going to do to
rein it in at this point. I know a lot

(01:27:27):
of people who use them. I know a lot of
people who have them. Most of the guys in who
are older than about forty use it on occasion, but
prefer actually to just fish old school way and just
keep casting and retrieving and casting and retrieving until they
get bites. A lot of people though it makes it

(01:27:50):
so easy, but I cringe. I've got a couple of
listeners who either have emailed me this personally or have
shared that someone sent them an email and had a
phone call with them, say, hey, man, I heard you
were going bass fishing today. How'd you do? We never
even made a cast, We never really saw a good fish.

(01:28:13):
They watched TV all day. That's all they did. They
rode around the lake real slow, real slow, looking at
all the logs on the bottom, looking at whatever else
was on the bottom, looking for the right bass to
cast to. And that that's a little bit way off

(01:28:35):
from what I know of as fishing. And I'm not
knocking you. If that's what you do, you be you.
As long as it's legal. I'm okay with that. I
can't argue with that, but it's just not my preferred method.
And I did a little livescoping with Forest. We were
up there on Lake Livingston, bouncing around looking for white

(01:28:56):
bass and looking for crappie, and it was kind of fun.
But then when we decided to go bass fishing, we
turned the TV off and just went bass fishing and
just pounding the shoreline with spinner baits and crank baits
up and down it, throwing at every piece of structure
we could see, and we caught some bass. I don't

(01:29:17):
know drones. I think they could be beneficial if everybody
who used them would only use them to locate wounded deer.
I hate the thought of losing a deer. That's why
I shoot a big caliber when I shoot deer. I'm
mostly Almost every deer I've shot in the last twenty

(01:29:38):
years has been shot with a seven mag And I
don't care where I was hunting. I don't care how
big or small the deer were. I wanted to make
sure they didn't go very far. I don't like losing wildlife,
so yeah, if you could use them for that, I
wouldn't have a problem with it. But that's what those
deer dogs are for now. Getting deer dog out there

(01:29:59):
to find your deer is not cheap. You can probably
buy a couple of drones for the same price as
one good deer dog recovery. But boy, those dogs are fun.
To watch. That's that's worth the price of admission right there.
If you have to, if you have to find a deer,
and you can get somebody to bring their deer dog
out there. In fact, I got to get in trustle

(01:30:20):
with Rob Logan here. He I believe it's his uncle
who has those dogs, Lacy dogs, and I'd like to
get him. I'd like to get that guy on there
and talk about some of the recovery those dogs make.

Speaker 3 (01:30:31):
It.

Speaker 1 (01:30:32):
It's fascinating, it really is. All right, we ain't got
to take a little break here at the top of
the hour, and when we get back, I'll dabble in
golf a little bit, but I want to stay. I
really want to stay with with hunting and fishing because
we've also got on Monday. If you're tough enough, and
I guarantee you this is going to save the lives
of a ton of flounder on Monday. The air temperature

(01:30:55):
Monday morning, as these flounder season reopens, gonna be probably
in the high thirties. They're talking about it being a
little colder than that. I don't think it'll make it
down to that bottom line number, but I guarantee you
there's a lot of folks who are gonna say, you know,
six weeks to wait for a flounder, and if I

(01:31:16):
wait two more days, I can fish when it's seventy degrees. Yeah,
hang on, flounder. I'll be right with you. Belleville Meat
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smoked sausage. Go get yourself a full pecon smoke barbecue,
lunch or dinner. Serve seven days a week, ten am

(01:31:37):
to seven pm. They have got homemade hot dogs and
pull pork on that menu too, for the kids or
for you if that's what you want. Got those delicious
stuffed pork tenders. They do those in four or five
different recipes. They've got pan sausage, They've got boot in labouchery,
stuffed chickens, and all the wild game processing. You can

(01:31:58):
imagine an entire building devoted to that during deer season.
It's a very very fast moving operation too. You pull up,
there's three lanes outside that processing building. You pull up,
you have somebody come running out there with the cart
to get all the meat out of your truck or suv.
Or minivan whatever they take it in. You follow them

(01:32:20):
in through a different door and you get in there
and you get this big giant menu of things you
can have made out of that venison you just dropped
off and boy in a few days, when you get
that text or email that it's ready, you better hie
tail it out there, because they got something delicious for
you to eat for a long time to come. Belleville
Meatmarket dot Com is the website. Most anything you could

(01:32:42):
buy in the store can be shipped to your door.
Very simple process. Just get online, order it and it'll
be there. Anything up to about half a cow I
would imagine they'll ship for you. Belleville meat Market dot Com.
Now here's Dougpike. So much two unpack in this third
hour and so little time could heavens, there's really not

(01:33:05):
a ton of stuff going on in the in the
golf world right now. It's it's chill out time. Although
Q school is underway and Camilla vi Jegas in his
mid forties is he's in the hunt. I think he
was in sixth place. They've got a couple more rounds
to play, and you talk about a grind where every
shot counts if they're still doing it the same way

(01:33:27):
they used to. These guys are playing five rounds of
golf to determine what they're gonna be able to do
next year. They either make their card, and there's a
boatload of them out there and only a handful of
tour cards to go around. But it's kind of an
all or nothing thing. And vijayas he's still got five

(01:33:50):
or six seven years to go I think five years
maybe six before he can play on the Champions Tour
or the Tour Champions, whatever they want to call it.
And there was an inching interview with him about why
he's still out there, why he still loves to get
out there and mix it up and grind and and
really have to think on every shot. He he it

(01:34:11):
sounds like he really enjoys beating himself up. Basically, certainly
he's got enough money to retire. I can't imagine that
he hasn't done that. It's just the competition in him.
And he does talk about how it's it's getting more
difficult as he gets older, not just because he's getting older,
but because there are so many really talented young people

(01:34:33):
coming into the game, and just the way the way
that interview went made me I'm cheering for him. I'm
gonna be watching see how he does. There's an LPGA
Tour event going on, the Grant Forton Invitational in Naples.
It's a I think it's it's a two woman team thing,
and once again, the LPGA's leader board doesn't give any

(01:34:54):
first names. I guess we're just suspect expected to know them,
which I don't once you get past about the top
three or four. And so there's two teams leading at
seventeen under par after one round. By the way they
lit the place up, I guess yesterday's round almost certainly
was a two person scramble, and there's only three rounds

(01:35:17):
in the whole tournament, so I think it's kind of
like a modified Ryder Cup or something like that. Maybe
I'm not really sure. And after two teams shot fifty five,
it's almost like it's almost like a charity scramble, except
that they would have been in the forties. Probably that
shooting fifty five, I don't care how good you are.

(01:35:37):
I don't know how they did it. I would love
to watch those two rounds and just see how well
they played, because they had to have played extremely well.
I'm not taking anything away from the skill of those
players either, but man, it's just maybe like a charity,
maybe they could buy mulligans or a tiger drive or
something like that. I don't care how you get to
fifty five. If it's legit, you have played, you have

(01:35:58):
played your socks off to make that. You got to
have a lot of a little bit of luck, at
least not a lot, maybe, but a little bit of luck.
Where at the best round I ever shot in my
life was a seventy, And the only sad part is
that I had an uphill, about an uphill twelve footer
to shoot sixty nine, And because I was so scared

(01:36:20):
of going too far past the cup and then having
this tricky little downhill wiggler, that I left it about
a foot short. I didn't even give up the one
putt I'll probably have in my life to shoot sixty nine.
I didn't even get it to the cup. How embarrassing.
How embarrassing. All right, back to the outdoors duck season.

(01:36:43):
Something else to talk about in the outdoors. Duck season
reopened in the South Zone today. It goes on the
way into almost to the end of January, I think
a week short. I think it's a twenty fifth maybe
that it shuts down, but it reopened today in the
south zone, and that means I got to make a
couple of phone calls. I need to get out there
and sit line. One morning, or two or maybe three,
I saw a photograph, by the way, or a video,

(01:37:08):
this giant pile of geese flying around and circling and whatnot,
and supposedly down in Mexico. I'm not sure that I
believe it was Mexico. And the only proof offered in
the video was just a text that said, look at

(01:37:29):
all these geese in Mexico. Maybe not, probably not. Now
I know, I'm sure there's some geese down there. And
speaking of we were talking about late migration. One of
the reasons if you want to look at something that
I think is kind of not fair, Chase, how about
the way that the Midwest now is has totally revamped

(01:37:54):
the way they look at waterfowl and started pampering and
babysitting the birds and encouraging them to stay farther north
than they would have or should have. Had nobody been
leaving crop all over the ground, had nobody been actually
putting warmers in some of the roost ponds, not just

(01:38:16):
erification to keep the water open, but physically warming the
temperature of the water to keep them up there in
the Midwest longer, rather than having them trust their instincts.
As the snow line comes down the country and as
the freeze line comes down the country, a lot of

(01:38:36):
those birds that are still in the Midwest would have
been here twenty five thirty years ago, and they should
be here now. The days got shorter, the weather got colder.
There have been several friezes up in the Midwest. But
when you've got a little electric blanket out there, and
you've got them in a hot tub, and you've got

(01:38:57):
them eating buffet dinners every day all over the place,
they roll out of the hot tub and onto the
buffet table. Why would you leave? They don't because that's
conservation of energy. If they don't have to fly another
five hundred and six hundred miles to be comfortable, why leave?
Why leave? And the people up there are taking full

(01:39:19):
advantage of that. Of course they are blasted away, blasted away.
Ducks and geese still up there because they're being held
on to. Oh here's who it is. Mark just waged
in Mark Johnson, that's the guy. Thank you Mark for
asking me to get Captain Doll on the phone this morning.
It is just I'm so glad that you reminded me

(01:39:40):
or asked me to do that yesterday. And I'm glad
Scott had the time this morning as soon as you
asked me that I'm not waiting. I told Frankie yesterday
that I'm gonna probably have him on if he's not
in a deerstand with a customer. He and I are
going to talk about that, and I'm really glad I did.
If you didn't get a chance to hear that interview earlier,
by the way, we did it at eight o'clock instead

(01:40:01):
of now, by all means, go listen. And the Scott
I'm talking about is Scott and Noll, who former HPD
homicide Most everybody knows that he spent twenty five years
with HPD covering some really ugly stuff and went up
to the Hill country after that July fourth flood and

(01:40:21):
he was planning he planned to stay a couple of
days and help out how he could just show up
and see what happens. Ends up in charge of two
big crews of really capable people, and was there twenty
three days, I think he said and did some just amazing,
remarkable work that a lot of people either wouldn't or
couldn't do. So hats off, Mark, I appreciate that, man,

(01:40:44):
I really do. Thanks for writing back too. Seven one
three two one two five seven ninety Email me Doug
Pike at iHeartMedia dot com. Let's go back to flounder,
shall we. I mentioned briefly going out into this past break.
I think it was that the temperature. I'm gonna go
and get an official right now forecast. Let's see if

(01:41:06):
it's changed up or down? Oh, where did it go?
Where did it go? There? It is right there. That's
what I want. Houston, TX Weather at the site that
I trust, my most trust, that tends to be most accurate.
The low temperature for Houston Sunday night, right before flounder

(01:41:30):
season opens on Monday morning, the low temperature in Houston's
gonna be thirty five, which I'm I'm gonna guess is
probably still maybe even today gonna be bumped up a
little bit instead of down. This is a major front.
The height tomorrow is only fifty two and the high
Monday is only fifty one, and you're gonna have a

(01:41:52):
nice cool north wind, maybe northeast wind, rolling up your
sleeves and into your your neck when you're trying to
catch a flounder out there and not really fishing hard,
just holding onto your mud mennow down on the bottom. Yeah,
there's not gonna be a whole lot of physical activity
that would keep you warm when it's fifty one. Now,

(01:42:13):
the good news is the sun will be shining. That's cute,
But teeing it up in the thirties and hoping against
hope that it gets to fifty before you feel like leaving,
it's gonna be rough.

Speaker 2 (01:42:28):
Now.

Speaker 1 (01:42:28):
If you wait, like I said earlier, if you wait
just a few days, you can fish when the low
Tuesday fifty eight, low Wednesday sixty three, and the high
Thursday seventy seven. That sounds like flounder weather. To me,
that sounds like flounder weather. By the way, I thought
about playing the Texas temperature game this morning, and then

(01:42:50):
I stopped because I want to wait till tomorrow. Now,
whoever ends up playing tomorrow, you've got to promise you
got a peaky sware that you're not gonna cheat and
go looking before we play, but I have a hunch
that's gonna be a pretty big swing tomorrow in the
States temperatures. I gave Frankie a chance this morning and
he actually got pretty close. So he's been brushing up

(01:43:12):
on his ability to predict temperature somehow. I don't know
where he's schooling himself, but he's doing really well. The
low temperature at about seven thirty this morning, right before
or right after we came on. Let me refresh this.
I'm kind of curious to see how much it's changed,
if any. Yeah, it's all the way up to thirty now.
The low at seven o'clock was twenty five, and the

(01:43:34):
high you had to go way down south to get it,
and you're gonna still have to go down south to
get where we are now. The high was only seventy
at seven o'clock twenty five seventy. That's a lot of
degrees in between. Right now, it's actually seventy three at
the very bottom of the state of Texas and seventy
two at Galveston and at h where's this one? Wait

(01:43:57):
a minute, let me catch this. God Lee, they need
to I need a bigger screen. I need a bigger laptop.
That's what I need, or I gotta get back to
my desk where I have two giant screens that I
look at and can toggle back and forth.

Speaker 2 (01:44:09):
Really up.

Speaker 1 (01:44:10):
The whole upper coast is about seventy two. Uh, there's
another seventy three at Corpus. So not a bad day
to be on the water today. But oh what a
difference twenty four hours is gonna make. You'm gonna get
your attention if you go roll it out there tomorrow
morning and try to bust through a little chop somewhere.
It's gonna be a lot more wind tomorrow too, then
on Monday morning, so just be prepared. There's gonna be

(01:44:32):
probably fifteen twenty, maybe twenty five miles an hour out
of what probably will be the north northeast, maybe a
little more east in it than that, but it's gonna
be coal. So the best thing I can suggest is
just take all This is the kind of weather, This
is that oddball time in Southeast Texas where what you
wanna do is just take take everything out of your

(01:44:54):
closet and throw it in the back seat of your car.
And that's the only way that you're gonna know and
don't even and get dressed till you get in your car.
Just be decent, Okay, don't walk around in your skivvies,
but just just be decent. Then get in the car
and dress for what you just walked through from the

(01:45:14):
house to the car. That's what I'm gonna start doing.
I might scare my neighbors, so that'd be kind of weird,
wouldn't it. Frankie. Just walk out there with a bundle
of clothes and in your underwear, and then just dress
when you get in the car. Hit that heater on.
I turned the heater on. Yes, a couple of days ago.
It was cold enough in the morning that I turned
the heater on to come in a little bit. I

(01:45:35):
don't I don't really mind. And one of the things
I don't know, I'm running late. I'm sorry. One of
the things that really is a pet peeve of mine
is when it's a cold, cold day like it's gonna
be on Monday, and people are driving around in their
cars with overcoats on and gloves on and knit caps
on in the car. That's not the way to stay warm.

(01:45:57):
If you want to stay warm when you get out
of the car, you take that coat off, you take
the gloves off, you take the hat off, you take
the coat, and you open it up and drape it
over the passenger seat, so the heater is warming the
inside of your coat as you drive to wherever you're
gonna get out of that coat, out of that car.
And then when you get there, your gloves are warm,

(01:46:18):
your coat's warm, and you can make it all the
way to the building, unless you're having to walk a
half a mile to where you're going. You can walk
all the way in there and never feel cold at all.
That's how I do it. That's old school. That's old
school staying warm stuff. All right, we gotta take a break.
I'm just yapping and yapping. Sorry. Black Horse Golf Club
not a bad day, not a bad day to get

(01:46:39):
up there if you can. It's on Fry Road, well yeah,
off Fry Road, about a couple of miles south of
two ninety. Very easy to find, very easy to get to,
and you will be glad you made it up there
when you do, because there's two courses up there now.
The North Course still daily feed like it's always been
since inception. South Course taking private this year, and a

(01:47:00):
bonus to joining that South Course is that it also
gets you access not only to the North Course at
black Horse, but there's a membership option that also gets
you access to black Country Club where I play a lot,
and to Golf Club of Houston, the two courses we
used for our Saint Jude tournament. It's a wonderful option
that the general manager there, Craig Hicks, came up with

(01:47:23):
late in twenty twenty four. He told me it was coming,
and when it finally came, where you could get that
and enjoy the country club experience more like at black Horse.
Already a good course on that South course, and it's
being improved as we speak, just every day this year.
Little things were being done to make it better and better.

(01:47:44):
It's a great opportunity to get a lot of access
to some great golf. Black Horse Golf Club dot com
is a website. Everybody there wants to make sure you
have a good time, and there a lot of people
wearing name tags. Just look for one of them, tell
them what you need, you'll get it. Black Horse Golf
Club nine three on Sports Talk seven to ninety Funny

(01:48:09):
you play sledgehammer, Frankie because Captain Scott might need one.
He is tasked that he is accepted of himself for today.
Hang on, I'm looking for a website I need to
get to. I can just do it this way. Stand
by one second. Oh yeah there, that's good. Gosh, I
almost tipped over a cup of coffee reaching from a mouse,

(01:48:33):
so Captain Scott may need one of those. He is
in the process. This is his job for today, and
he sent me pictures. There was an old, kind of
an old small trailer that he lived in while he
was building the home in which he lives now with
his wife. And he basically built a house by hand.

(01:48:57):
He cut the lumber, he laid the floors, he laid
the tile. He did everything on that house. It didn't
have to be done by some sort of certified licensed plumber,
electrician whatever. He built that house. Man, it's pretty amazing. Really,
I don't think he did the proof. No, I can't
see him up on the roof that long. In any event,

(01:49:19):
he had that little old trailer out there for the
longest time and let the grandchildren use it kind of
as a camp when they were there, to let them
get a little more accustomed to being outdoors and whatnot.
And today, after he realized going back there and looking
at it for the umpteen millionth time that somehow some

(01:49:40):
of the seals had gotten broken in the walls, and
those walls had gotten wet, and now they're a hot mess.
And essentially what he's done is some decided to just
tear that thing down to nothing. There's going to be
a scrap pile. There's gonna be what was it. There's scrap,

(01:50:01):
there's burn and something else. I don't remember what. I
guess dump, I don't know, But the bottom line is
he's getting rid of all that stuff, so good for him.
And when he's finished with that, I'm gonna ask him
to come up here and get in this garage mine.
I thought maybe there was gonna be more rain than
there is on the on the weather map at the

(01:50:25):
weather channel, there's some rain south of Bay City, extending
pretty far out into the Gulf of Mexico. But the
stuff that's coming on shore is light at worst. There's
a little bit of something that just passed through the
woodlands or is going to maybe in the next hour
or so. But right now, let me get to this. Okay,

(01:50:45):
back to nine o'clock. Yeah, we don't need eight Well,
they should leave eight o'clock off. Now it's coming gone. Yeah,
we got several hours of still more clouds than sun,
that's for sure, but not a whole lot of heavy rain,
it looks like at least until two or three o'clock,
and even that is gonna be short lived, I hope.

(01:51:08):
And then at some point that big old front is
gonna come rumbling through here, and the champions are gonna
fall like a stone. And when it does, we'll just
adjust to it. Like I said, this time of year,
I have got because I play some golf, I do
some fishing. I don't have I don't carry hunting gear

(01:51:29):
because I couldn't call it hunting gear if I did
not have a firearm in the car, if I didn't
have a rifle or a shotgun. And I'm not just
gonna willy neary car carry my guns around in the
car for no reason. I don't want them getting stolen.
For well, that's that's the very most primary Well that
is the the primary reason. You can't have a most

(01:51:50):
primary reason. That's somewhat oxymoronic. In any event, no guns
in the car, no hunting guns in the car, for sure,
until I'm actually going honey. But fishing rogie. I think
they're four now, usually three or four, rarely fewer than three,
and rarely but sometimes more than four. Maybe if I'm

(01:52:14):
going fishing with somebody else. I actually did a catfishing
trip with my Dennis and we didn't catch a single
dog on catfish either. By the way, I owe him
another trip. I'm gonna bake that place so heavily that
every catfish in what's probably about twenty or twenty five
acres of water is gonna be right under that pier

(01:52:36):
by mid afternoon, and we're gonna catch some catfish, by gosh,
hopefully a couple of big ones. I'm pretty sure this
lake has some big ones in it. Seven one three
two one two five seven ninety. Email me Doug Pike
at iHeartMedia dot com. Let me see what else I've
got on this agenda here today. There was that, There
was that I talked about that. Oh, by the way,

(01:52:59):
I wondered about something, and I'm looking for specifics, but
without an official name attached to this. When when you
and your buddies are going hunting on a really really
cold morning, or fishing for that matter, there's you. If
there are four of you there's usually one guy who's

(01:53:23):
always the first one to kind of cave and either
cuddle up under the console or maybe walk back to
the truck to warm up. And I could usually pick them.
When I was guiding, I'd have four, maybe five, sometimes
six guys going with me to wherever we were going,
And even just sitting there eating breakfast, I could just

(01:53:44):
feel the tension on the just emanating from the guy
who was going to be the first one to get
up to say I gotta go warm up. We all
knew it was going to be cold, we all knew
how to dress for it. And this is this takes
all the way back to pre gor Tex days, where
if it was going to be drizzling and cold, you
were just gonna be wet and colder, and there wasn't

(01:54:06):
much you could do about it. We had those white parkas,
the white plastic parkas that were great on wet days,
but would burn you up on more mild days because
you were like you just had yourself inside a little
easy bake oven. Basically you ended up sweating yourself wet,
and the butcher's coats, the white cotton jat or not jackets,

(01:54:32):
but knee lenked coats we wore under warmer circumstances. If
any moisture got to them, then you're just wallowing around
in a wet shirt basically, or a wet coat. And
that was uncomfortable as could be. So without naming names,
if you can describe that, or if you're not scared,

(01:54:54):
just ring me up and tell me who it was.
Who in your group was the biggest sissy, and and
it's it's really not a big deal. I never once
really thought any less or had any any doubt that
the guy was not a good guy just because he

(01:55:15):
couldn't take the cold. That's There was a guy at
our our Saint Jude tournament on Monday, pretty husky looking dude.
He's probably six' two two forty and not, heavy not,
fat but more muscle than. Fat and he was in
shorts and a golf shirt and it was in the

(01:55:38):
forties AND i, said, man where are you? FROM i
couldn't help but ask. HIM i, said where are you
from dressed like that on this? Morning he, Goes it's
not Where i'm. From i'm from. HERE i just don't get,
cold he, Said, Really he, said, NO i JUST i
just don't really get, cold AND i, said, well that's
that's a handy thing to have. Around he, goes, yeah

(01:56:00):
right up until at summertime WHEN i feel the heat
way worse than, anybody, like, oh, okay there's give and
take on that. Deal, yeah this poor, guy he was.
Perfect where we were at forty, two forty three, degrees
maybe forty, FIVE i don't. Know but it was, chili
it really. Was and he's out there just not carring the.
World he got his shorts, on got his golf shoes,

(01:56:22):
on got his little golf shirt, on and tee it,
up let's. Go there were two or three other guys in,
shorts but they were appropriately attired above the waist and
on two or three layers LIKE i. DID i had
long pants on just, because just BECAUSE i ACTUALLY i
drove up. THERE i had Long johns, on AND i

(01:56:44):
had another layer underneath everything ELSE i had on on the.
Top and before we even got out onto the golf,
COURSE i had already gone in the locker room and
ditched those long johns and ditched that first, layer the
one against my. Skin it wasn't that. Cold we'll take.

Speaker 2 (01:57:00):
IT i.

Speaker 1 (01:57:00):
Can If i'm going Duck honting or goose. HUNTING i
don't really care what the weather. Is unless it's gonna
be below, freezing THEN i might have to rethink. It
and that would be a decision made long, before, HONEY
i would make that decision like the afternoon. Before if
the forecast call for twenty five and, Raining i'm making
a phone. Call i'll see you when the sun comes back.

(01:57:22):
Out but other than, that it's if it's above freezing
and it's not gonna pour down, Rain i'm. Gay and
if it's gonna be, foggy all the. Better you don't
really get that much fog though when it's super. Cold
the foggy conditions tend to be on really pleasant mild.
Days all, Right i'm gonna take a little break. Here
when we get, Back i've got something ELSE i was thinking.

(01:57:44):
About that kind of ties in with the goose hunting
and duck, hunting And i'll try to get to it
IF i can remember for the next six. Minutes Carter's.
Country if you have not been, there if you don't
even know What i'm talking, about WHEN i say go
check Out Carter's, COUNTRY i encourage you to do. That
Carter's country has been around for sixty plus. Years selling,

(01:58:04):
guns ammo and hunting, stuff just like it says on
the sign and at the, website all Over Southeast. Texas no,
sneakers no, footballs no, snorkels just the stuff you're gonna
need to enjoy the hunting and shooting sports and the great.
Outdoors that's WHERE i spend as much time AS i possibly.
Can Carter's country's got a full service, Range they've got
gunsmithing available at that flagship store up On. Trushwood got

(01:58:27):
two more locations in town to make sure everybody can
get what they need before they go draping trapes it
off into the woods or or out into the rice
fields or wherever you're gonna go hunt ducks and geese
or deer or, whatever, quail whatever you're gonna. Hunt everything
you could possibly need to do it is gonna be
At Carter's. Country need a spot and scope for a
big l hunt coming? Up, Fine need a big high

(01:58:48):
caliber gun for An africa? Hunt you got coming? Up
and they got those. Two if you can't get to the,
store you can get you can buy pretty much anything
that you would find there online as. Well carterscountry Dot.
Com that's the website you can go, there or go
to one of the three Stores, Pasadena ien And treshwick
way up there north of the. Airport that's that's the.

(01:59:10):
Original that's where uh the Late Bill carter's lion mounts
from over In africa and other cool stuffed, animals big
cape buffalo out there, TOO i believe IF i recall,
correctly that's all up. There Carters country Dot com is a.
Website go check it Out Carters country Dot. Com, okay, okay, okay.

(01:59:33):
Okay i'm. Back Doug pike showing sportsalk seven to ninety.
Cow we only got about twenty minutes. Left good heavens seven, one, three,
two five seven Ninety email Me Doug Pike atiheartmedia dot.
Com UH i, mentioned And i'm kind of surprised nobody
at all responded with a phone. CALL i want to
know what you guys think of this ban on drones for.

(01:59:56):
Fishing And Steve wade in a few minutes, ago And
i'm just now getting to his. EMAIL i, Apologize, steve
he's in kind of tongue in cheeky SAYS i could be,
wrong but it seems like the live scope is much
more an advantage to fishermen than using drones to drop

(02:00:17):
bait for, Sharks and when you just lay the two
side by, side it's pretty dog gone clear that the
live scope is going to be responsible for the taking
of far more fish than the drone will be for taking.
Sharks AND i think at the very least The parks

(02:00:45):
And Wildlife department and potentially THE, feds they're the ones
who started, this might want to just take a look at.
That And i'm not saying they should ban anything. Else
i'm not saying they should change anything they're doing right.
Now but when you put those two on the same
table and say which one is worse for the, resources

(02:01:07):
it's got to be the. Lifscope, now the bass fishermen
are gonna jump up and, say, yeah but we let them.
Go we catch those, bass but we let them, Go
and that's. True probably ninety five percent of the time
somebody gets out, there they catch a giant, bass they
take pictures of, it they measure it so that they

(02:01:29):
can get their mount done just, so and then they
release that. Fish And i'll wrap quotes around. Unharmed because
a lot of people still use hooks that have their
barbs on, them and though every, hook every barbed hook

(02:01:50):
that gets up in a fish's, mouth has potential to
tear it up pretty. Badly it may catch a gill,
raker it may catch the, throw it may catch the.
Jawbone and if you watch, Boy i'm seeing more and
more people on television catching bass who are just grabbing

(02:02:13):
a pair of plyers and it's almost like they're trying
to take the bass's tonsils out. Aggressively and barbed hooks get.
Stuck they, Do but that barb is not what holds
that hook in the. Fish pressure is. All if you
keep a tight line most of the. Time And i've

(02:02:34):
been doing this for twenty five years, now maybe. MORE
i don't fish with barbed. HOOKS i find no reason for.
It i'm not trying. To IF i set a world
IF i had a thirty pound, Bass IF i set
the hook and a thirty pound bass jumped in the
air in front of me In texas WHERE i know
it's going to be a record by twelve, pounds and

(02:02:57):
my barbed hook somehow came out of that fish's, MOUTH i, go,
well that's okay BECAUSE i didn't hurt the. Fish, conversely
IF i have barbs on my, hooks every FISH i
set the hook on has a, chance and it's gonna
get torn up so bad it's not gonna make it to.
Tomorrow and that's the last THING i. Want every FISH

(02:03:19):
i take off my, HOOKS i want to survive and
let somebody else have the same THRILL i got from.
Them and it's a shame that more people don't do.
This it's a shame that the bass fishing community doesn't, say,
hey you know, what this guy down In texas has
a pretty good. Idea it would make it a lot
easier and a lot faster and a lot better for

(02:03:41):
the fish if we fished with barbleous, hooks and the lure,
manufacturers if that were a rule on any of the,
circuits would gladly shift to barblous. Hardware and if you're
actually buying barbleous, hooks there's gonna be no damage to
their cental. Strength there's going to be no damage to

(02:04:01):
the hooks. Themselves they're just going to start out with
no barb and in a very hard mouth like a
bass has a barbed. Hook, actually if it's in the
hard part of that, mouth the bony, part a barbed
hook doesn't penetrate as well as a barbless. Hook there's
a lot of tarpainfishermen will tell you about, that especially fly,
fishermen because they're having to try really hard to get

(02:04:24):
a hook set in a, big, old bony tarpin's, mouth
and a barbarous hook will bury itself in there deeper
rather than get stopped by the barb from going. In
and you actually have a better chance with a barbless
hook than a barbed hook in a lot of, cases
especially fly fishing with. Tarpin ah so much to, unpack

(02:04:44):
just LIKE i. Promised good, golly we're already at the other, Break,
frankie what the heck? Man all, right let's do this
when we get. Back little things to chew. ON i
think when we get back into, it and it'll be. Fun,
barry he'll Sugar land that was there last night picking
up dinner for my. WIFE i had already. Eaten we had.

(02:05:04):
That Saint jude was very kind and offered us meals
while we were working for them and for the, hospital
and SO i ate pretty well yesterday and didn't have
to eat At Berry. HILL i may go by there
today because tomorrow they're. Closed they's got some specials going,
on by the, way AND i haven't seen the email
with that in it, yet but if you go to the,

(02:05:25):
website which Is berry Hillsugar land dot, Com i'm sure
they're going to be mentioned. There that's some great holiday
stuff coming. Up they'll cater all over. Town if you're
throwing a holiday party and you want to have a
really amazing spread of traditional Tex mex food with A
Berry hill, twist by all, means call them and get

(02:05:47):
them to take care of your. Party, otherwise go there
if you've never been. There when you walk through the
door there At Sugar Creek boulevard and fifty nine on
the inbound, side can't missing, there right up against the
freeway in a big strip shopping, say you go in,
there and well before you even go, in you'll see
the outdoor dining, area which is going to be really really,
comfortable unless it rains today then that might be an.

(02:06:08):
Issue but inside to the leftist family stuff tables and,
booths and to the rights kind of a sports bar,
area there'll be football games on or whatever kind of
sporting events are popular and most, watched they'll be on in,
there and a couple of. TVs and then of course
everybody in there is just, really really. Friendly it's old,

(02:06:29):
school it's family. Style you don't have to get all gussied.
Up there's no white linen. Tablecloths it's just a bunch
of hard working people in the, kitchen a bunch of
hard working people on that floor making sure you get
what you want and you enjoy. IT i took one
of the guys from a new client in there just
a week and a half. Ago he'd never heard of the.

(02:06:50):
Place he'd never been. There in fairness to, him he
doesn't live, here but he'd never heard of. IT i, said,
look let's meet. Here this is gonna be. Fun you're
gonna enjoy. It and he absolutely loved. It he got
a fish taco and he got what was the other
one he, GOT i can't, remember but he absolutely loved.
Him both Said i'll be back here for, sure and
he will next time he comes in, town and we'll

(02:07:10):
take him bright back. There berryhill Sugar land dot. Com
that's the, website been there thirty plus. Years Berryhillsugar land dot.
Com line fifty one On Sports talk seven Ninety The Dunchpike,
Show thank you for. Listening we're gonna have a reprise.
Here guess who's. Back hang, on let me get my
little mouse over. Here captain's gotten. All you're. Back you

(02:07:33):
just couldn't stand, it could you what you? Got?

Speaker 3 (02:07:35):
Man, NOAH i heard you, know you're talking about the drone.

Speaker 2 (02:07:38):
Stuff.

Speaker 3 (02:07:39):
Yeah and that wasn't a new law or. Anything it
was just it was Nineteen.

Speaker 1 (02:07:45):
Yeah it goes back to the. FIFTIES i. Understand.

Speaker 3 (02:07:47):
Yeah and they just there was so many people asking
about drone questions with PARCHWALL i get it all the. Time,
Yeah and so they put it before their, lawyers and
the lawyers looked at all of, it of, course and
they're always going to be on the conservative side of,
that and they, said, well, yeah it looks like it violates.
It so they came out with their their opinion on.

(02:08:09):
It there everybody ran with, it Uh, parson WHILE i
backed off of, it AND i THINK i sent you
a link to. It but they came back out and, said,
hey look, guys it's a federal law and we're not
going we have there's No states ordinance against, it so
we're not going to be able to enforce it because

(02:08:31):
it's a federal. Law that doesn't, yeah go, ahead, WELL
i mean it doesn't stop the federal game warden from getting.
You oh, sure, sure, yeah they you, know but, yeah
that's so basically the state's just, saying, yeah it's.

Speaker 7 (02:08:49):
A, law be aware of. It, yeah and we.

Speaker 3 (02:08:51):
Don't we don't condone, ill but we're not going. To
and they. Can't they can't change the federal.

Speaker 2 (02:08:58):
Law.

Speaker 3 (02:08:58):
No and you know that was just a lawyer was. Written,
yeah but the thing was written before babe and thought about. Drones,
okay it needs, Updating, oh no question about.

Speaker 7 (02:09:10):
It.

Speaker 1 (02:09:10):
Yeah AND i Think steve the Way steve posts his
prog his, question he thinks the livescopes a whole lot
worse than drones to drop shark. Baits so tell, me
tell me the fog story real. Quick AND i want
to try to Get john on before we get out of.

Speaker 3 (02:09:24):
Here we had a deer least out In Rock springs
as about me and my buddies and a bunch of
cop buddies and my dad and it was, all you,
know typical rock springs up and down, canyon pretty good sized.
Place and we all had our stands up in the
different draws and we had one of those socked in fog.

(02:09:46):
MORNINGS i, mean just. Nasty, WELL i always had my.
Mark my place is, marked you. Know WHEN i stopped
on the, ROAD i always had a spot to stop
and walk into my hand and my dad, too and
So dad AND i take off my Buddy richard police.
Partner he he had one of those hilarious two strokes
that you could hear, forever you, know the old original

(02:10:07):
four wheelers.

Speaker 9 (02:10:08):
Wipe, back, back back.

Speaker 3 (02:10:09):
Back so as he's going along, There i'm in my
stand AND i can hear him driving all.

Speaker 2 (02:10:16):
Over the entire.

Speaker 3 (02:10:16):
League we all got. Back we were all laughing about
to the, east and then he'd circle. Around he'd be
on the west side of. You he finally just stopped
in the middle of the road and got his rifle
out and just sat on his four wheelers open in the.

Speaker 1 (02:10:35):
Morning that's pretty good. Man Thanks holy. Cow all, right,
Partner i'll talk to you again.

Speaker 7 (02:10:44):
Soon.

Speaker 1 (02:10:44):
Scott always a pleasure. Man. Audios all, right let me, see, Hey,
JOHN i got about a minute and a. Half it's all.
Yours what's.

Speaker 6 (02:10:52):
UP i understand some more on the technology. STUFF i
don't know if you're, aware but you can now get you,
know there's the game cams that send you and that's
real time pictures of what's happening. Where that's getting close
to using a, drone right if you put a camera
at each feed or each. Pasture but now you can
get live stream. Cameras you can watch real real, time

(02:11:14):
and you can even move. Them you can move them
left to right and pan across the. Pasture i've got
one of. THOSE i don't use it for UNT i
use it to over one, tank just to see who's
coming for a drink and so. Forth but you, know
where does a drone stop and? Cameras you, know IT'S
i don't care for. It i'm so glad they all

(02:11:36):
the stuff you're talking, about the scopes with, Fishing i'm
not bass, fishing BUT i mean that's just. Ridiculous but
everybody has an argument with each you, know the the
long bow guys hated compound, bows and the compound bowls
hate crossboats and, uh you, know so it's, LIKE i

(02:11:56):
guess where you whatever you grew up.

Speaker 1 (02:11:58):
In but, anyway, hey you know, what as long as
it's legal and as long as people are buying their
licenses and all that and getting, Outdoors i'm. Good i'm.

Speaker 6 (02:12:09):
Good same.

Speaker 3 (02:12:10):
Here, yeah we.

Speaker 1 (02:12:10):
Can you, know everybody's gonna have different. Opinions i'll hunt
the WAY i want to. Hunt you hunt the way
you want to. Hunt they hunt the way they want to.
Hunt and as long as tar Parksing Walllefe department doesn't
have a problem with, It i've gotta be cool with.
It it really, do all, right, MAN i appreciate. That, yoah,
yeah thanks. Man all, right it's gonna wrap it. Up
we got ABOUT i got play thirty, seconds forty seconds

(02:12:32):
to remind you that flounder season opens On monday, morning
when it's gonna be about forty degrees probably wherever you
would go flounder, fishing maybe forty two forty. Three we've
got that going. On we have got the reopening of
duck season in The South zone today that goes Through january.
Almost we have got so, much just so much that

(02:12:53):
we can be thankful. For and in the outdoors around,
HERE i take advantage of every bit of. IT i really,
do as much AS i, can as many times As
i've Got i've got a little vacation time coming. UP
i Think i'm gonna have a shotgun or a rifle
in my hand at least, once maybe two or three.
Times in the, Meantime i'll live vicariously through some of you.
Too get out there and have some fun with your.

(02:13:14):
Family stay, safe, Please i'll see you tomorrow morning At
Day audios