September 14, 2025 • 12 mins
Originally aired on September 13th, 2025. Doug's insightful interview with Chris Hodge, for your listening pleasure.
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Speaker 1 (00:00):
All right, second out of the program starts right now.
Thank you for listening. Certainly do appreciate it. As I
mentioned at the onset of this program, before I got
into my lengthy explanation of what I did on my
summer vacation, I mentioned also that in this moment, I'm
gonna be talking to a man named Chris Hodge, for
whom uh from taking Vegas dot com, which is coming
(00:22):
in behind my show for the rest of this football
season and maybe a little bit longer. Who knows. Let me,
let me push a button and we will magically connect. Oom.
Right there, Chris Hodge, what's up, my friend.
Speaker 2 (00:34):
Doug Man? I missed you. Man. Yeah, man, this is crazy.
I'm so glad to be back KBM back with you
and let's have some fun with this.
Speaker 1 (00:47):
Yeah, let's have a little fun. Well, first of all,
what's what I know? What I mean? You guys are
pretty straight up. You're you're looking at analysis and statistics
and all this from all these games. But what's with
these sides where you can bet on what color shoelaces
somebody's gonna wear.
Speaker 2 (01:06):
Yeah, listen, that's just for the sports books to make
some extra money. We have stayed on the show with that,
You're here in the next hour. Ye Sports Investors Daily.
We have said the easiest bet is straight up side
or straight up total. All of these what color the
gatorade is, who's gonna score the first touchdown? All nonsense.
(01:27):
It is all designed to get your money. It's like,
you know what this is. I don't know if you
guys have this down in Texas. In New York, we
have these red light cameras. It's just a scam to
get people's money, that's all it is. So all the
Pauli's are the same thing. Man, You can't win when
you paul. If I can hit fourteen Paulies every night,
I would do it. It's impossible to win. But straight up,
(01:47):
straight up, you can win.
Speaker 1 (01:48):
Yeah, if you know what you're doing and if you're
getting good advice from good sources.
Speaker 2 (01:53):
Right, absolutely, so, you know, and that's what we do.
And look, we work we work on bots of if
you know this, you and I have met numerous times.
I've been down there. I mean, we work so hard
at trying to find just any edge we can in
a particular game. And you know, ninety percent of the
people out there, you know, they're working a good life
Monday through Friday. They're commuting, they're traveling, they're dealing with
(02:14):
their families, which is always most important. They sit down
on Saturday and Sunday, they just want a better football
game and win some money. But they really have no
idea who was going to win. And that's what we do.
That's how we consult, and we've been doing it for
twenty years at a high level. And I think I
got about ten years left and I'm going to call
it a day. But while I have those ten years
left to take advantage of it.
Speaker 1 (02:34):
You got I want to know your opinion, your straight
up opinion about the Texans. Are they going to be
any good this year?
Speaker 2 (02:41):
I think so. You know, when we beginning of the
season we said they were going to win the division.
They were like plus one ten. We didn't expect them
to win that opening game against the Rams. Tough place
to play on open Day. But I still believe the
Texans are the best team in that division. I believe
that a most well coached team in that division. You know,
we got a couple of big division games coming up
(03:02):
after Tampa Bay, you got Jacksonville and Tennessee and then
a tough game against the Ravens. But I think as CJ.
Stroud settles in, obviously have a very good defense, again,
a very good coach. I think as the season settles in,
the you know, Creamory's rises to the top. And I
do believe that Houston is the best team in that division.
So I believe Houston will indeed win that division. I
(03:23):
actually think they're gonna win it pretty easily. I think
just you know they are callbout a Rams week one.
No shame, there, no shame at all.
Speaker 1 (03:30):
So, uh, Chris Hodge from taking Vegas Dot Com here,
So can you say the same thing that Houston's going
to win the division in Major League Baseball right now?
Speaker 2 (03:39):
You see, we were having such a peaceful conversation. Man,
this was fun, and you gotta bring this stuff fun today.
Speaker 1 (03:45):
Man, they're what are they tied? Or maybe I don't
know what Seattle ended up doing yesterday, but man got
a one.
Speaker 2 (03:52):
Okay, so the hot You know that the Rangers are
hot right now. The Rangers got the Mets this weekend
and they scored six runs before the gram even took
the mound last night. Because the Mets are so bad,
you know, that's gonna come down to, you know, probably
the last week of the season, obviously, and you know,
Seattle's got the angels right now, Seattle's playing really good baseball.
(04:13):
But I believe in a week or so, you know,
Seattle goes to Houston and that's gonna be a monster series. Lead.
It's a three game set, so that's gonna be a
monster series. And Houston also got to deal with Texas.
So really, you know, it's in Houston's hands. You know,
you take care of the series against Texas, you take
care of the series against Seattle, you're gonna win that division.
(04:33):
You don't take care of those things, you're not gonna
win that division. And I hope and no, this is
this is how I endeared myself to the kb A
meet crowd down there. I hope you guys don't win
the division. I'm sick of dealing with you guys in
the playoff from a Yankees fan, and I want you
guys out, So I hope you guys don't win the division.
(04:55):
Chew the hate mail. The hate mail that's gonna good
coming in right now.
Speaker 1 (05:00):
You and I have had this friendly rivalry. You the
Yankees fan, me the Astros fan for so long, and
it just goes to show you and we are we are,
We should be the post your children for both sides,
two opposing sides getting along. You know what I'm talking about. Yeah,
you know what I'm talking about.
Speaker 2 (05:17):
I do. And that's I'm not going to say too
much now because this is a sports show. But sure,
that's where we are in our country. That is just
a terrible thing. It is a great thing that we
have the freedom to have differing opinions. That's fine, that's
a great thing. But have enough respect for the other
differing opinion, learn something from it and move forward amicably.
(05:40):
Don't move forward like we witnessed three days ago, which
is one of the most terrible acts that I've ever
seen in my life. And I'm going to leave it
at that.
Speaker 1 (05:47):
Yeah, let's just walk. I've talked about it all week
on fifty plus. That's enough of that. So let the
shift gears a little bit. You got the ryder gup
coming to your backyard, don't you, Chris.
Speaker 2 (05:57):
That ryder cup is about a minute away from my house.
My son, my son is actually working it as an
EMT and you know he's gonna be Donald Trump is
going to be there the first day, and I know
my son will be around with him, So that's a
really he's really excited about that. Sure, I think I
hate to say this because I mean, this is like,
(06:19):
how do you do this? Right? I think I think
Europe is a good bet in that. I mean, Europe
is plus one point fifty. I believe they have the
better players. Now I say that to say this, I
am personally not betting that because there's a few instances
throughout the year where I want to root and I
don't want to have money on it, and that happens
(06:40):
two or three times a year. I want to root
for the USA. I'm proud of my country. I love
my country. I want to see the USA win. I'm
not betting against US now. If it was soccer, hell,
I bet against the USA because we suck at soccer.
For these boys and we'll see what happens. But I
do think I do think Europe at plus one fifty
(07:02):
is actually the value play there. I'm not going to
bet it, but I think that's the value play.
Speaker 1 (07:06):
Yeah, let's go back to just the nuts and bolts
of your industry. What's the biggest mistake that people who
don't know much about sports wagering make when they roll
into Lake Charles and go into that sports book and
just say, Okay, I want to I want to, I
want to make a bet. What's the dumbest thing they do?
Speaker 2 (07:26):
I mean, I don't have enough time in this interview
to explain all of that, but I'll just give you. Hey, look,
it's the Paulies. You know, math is math. Sports books
are making billions with a B. I know I have
an accent, so people can't really understand what I'm saying there.
But billions with a B and eighty five percent of
their money is on Paulies and what they're doing. And
(07:47):
the customers out there are hearing a really bad message
because every time one guy wins a ten dollar Pauli
that pays a million dollars, they post it all over
social media. Sure they don't tell you that two million
people just lost every Paulay they had. And right now
the sports books this I can't believe. And I speak
about this on Sports Investors daily. The customers are actually
(08:10):
right now betting what the sports books tell them to bet. Wow,
And I cannot understand that. And I know you guys,
it's not legal down there, so you don't have FanDuel,
you don't have DraftKings, which is the best way to
do it. That's what we recommend to our clients. The
sports books are giving out fourteen Paulay's that people have
(08:34):
no chance to win, and they're actually betting them. So
again it goes back to what I said about five
minutes ago. If you bet straight bets and totals, just
straight up, you can have success. If you bet Paulay's
and you need four or five games a day, man,
don't do it because you're not going to win and
you're gonna get hurt. And we don't want to see
people lose their money or anything else. Like we're trying
(08:57):
to treat this as a business and an investment. And Doug,
I've been on with you guys.
Speaker 1 (09:02):
Two six yeah, like sixteen maybe. Yeah.
Speaker 2 (09:06):
I've been on with you guys for a long time.
My message has never changed. I haven't bought into the Pauli's,
the prop bets. My message has never changed. Be with strategy,
bet with patients, don't bet money you can't afford to lose.
And if you do it that way and you win,
a decent percentage was like sixty percent. You can make
(09:29):
money and you got have fun doing it, so you
just got to stay away from the Paulie.
Speaker 1 (09:32):
All right, So Sports Investors Daily at what ten o'clock today?
We've had two nine o'clock starts back to back, didn't you?
Speaker 2 (09:40):
That was the Texas Longhorns, right, twelve o'clock push back
a little, but you know, we're happy to be back on.
You know, unfortunately last year we couldn't be on due
to not because we didn't want to, but because you
know the way sports gamblers.
Speaker 1 (09:54):
Oh yeah, they got mess that had to be cleaned up.
Speaker 2 (09:58):
We got legal clearance. Houston. You guys have always been
great to me. We have a lot of fun. And
you know, if you visit taking Vegas dot com, you
could also text the word win to the number five
four five four five fur. It's an easy way to
get free plays from us. Every single day there is
a free pick on that text line. So again, text
the word win to five four five four five for
(10:19):
But Doug, you have my promise anyone from Houston man,
I'll always take care of you guys. I'll always go
above and beyond to help you. You guys have been
great to me, and it's only fair if I give it.
Speaker 1 (10:27):
Back my pleasure. Man, if I can get you down
here again, I'll take you out and play some.
Speaker 2 (10:31):
Golf so you can take some money from me like
you did the last time we played. Right. You hustled me, Man,
you hustled me. I put my first drive into a house.
Speaker 1 (10:42):
You can't hustle a hustler. I know that.
Speaker 2 (10:45):
Yeah. I was gonna get chased by bores and alligators. Man.
Speaker 1 (10:50):
With that, I still, man, I got some more alligators
down here. If you want to come down and see
one up close, I promise you I'll send you a
video on a little bit.
Speaker 2 (10:58):
I want nothing to do with alligator and snakes. You
guys have a good time down all right?
Speaker 1 (11:03):
All right, Chris, thanks buddy, it's great talking to you
as always.
Speaker 2 (11:06):
Man, Doug, Yes, sir there audios.
Speaker 1 (11:11):
Holy cow. Yeah, that's an energetic guy right there, an
energetic guy. He was so glad that he called me,
I don't know how many couple about three four months
ago he said, Man, we're coming back. We're ready. Everything's
been cleared and he wasn't in any trouble. Just his
industry was in trouble, is what it. Was, and all
of that is he was. He had nothing to do
(11:34):
with the problems. He just had to wait till some
stuff settled out. And it's settled out and he's back,
and I'm so glad to have him here because he's
a really good dude. And like he said, we go back.
Probably it's getting close to twenty years. It's at least
it might be eighteen now. I was thinking it was
fifteen or sixteen, but it might be eighteen, maybe even more.
I don't know. Longtime relationship with that guy. He does
(11:57):
take care of you, guys. I promise you just tell
him my tell him I sent you. I don't get
anything for that, but he'll get a kick out of that.
Tell him, tell him you can put him on a
big alligator if he wants to come down that. Well,
he'll know that I he'll know that I put
Speaker 2 (12:11):
You up to it.
All right, second out of the program starts right now.
Thank you for listening. Certainly do appreciate it. As I
mentioned at the onset of this program, before I got
into my lengthy explanation of what I did on my
summer vacation, I mentioned also that in this moment, I'm
gonna be talking to a man named Chris Hodge, for
whom uh from taking Vegas dot com, which is coming
(00:22):
in behind my show for the rest of this football
season and maybe a little bit longer. Who knows. Let me,
let me push a button and we will magically connect. Oom.
Right there, Chris Hodge, what's up, my friend.
Speaker 2 (00:34):
Doug Man? I missed you. Man. Yeah, man, this is crazy.
I'm so glad to be back KBM back with you
and let's have some fun with this.
Speaker 1 (00:47):
Yeah, let's have a little fun. Well, first of all,
what's what I know? What I mean? You guys are
pretty straight up. You're you're looking at analysis and statistics
and all this from all these games. But what's with
these sides where you can bet on what color shoelaces
somebody's gonna wear.
Speaker 2 (01:06):
Yeah, listen, that's just for the sports books to make
some extra money. We have stayed on the show with that,
You're here in the next hour. Ye Sports Investors Daily.
We have said the easiest bet is straight up side
or straight up total. All of these what color the
gatorade is, who's gonna score the first touchdown? All nonsense.
(01:27):
It is all designed to get your money. It's like,
you know what this is. I don't know if you
guys have this down in Texas. In New York, we
have these red light cameras. It's just a scam to
get people's money, that's all it is. So all the
Pauli's are the same thing. Man, You can't win when
you paul. If I can hit fourteen Paulies every night,
I would do it. It's impossible to win. But straight up,
(01:47):
straight up, you can win.
Speaker 1 (01:48):
Yeah, if you know what you're doing and if you're
getting good advice from good sources.
Speaker 2 (01:53):
Right, absolutely, so, you know, and that's what we do.
And look, we work we work on bots of if
you know this, you and I have met numerous times.
I've been down there. I mean, we work so hard
at trying to find just any edge we can in
a particular game. And you know, ninety percent of the
people out there, you know, they're working a good life
Monday through Friday. They're commuting, they're traveling, they're dealing with
(02:14):
their families, which is always most important. They sit down
on Saturday and Sunday, they just want a better football
game and win some money. But they really have no
idea who was going to win. And that's what we do.
That's how we consult, and we've been doing it for
twenty years at a high level. And I think I
got about ten years left and I'm going to call
it a day. But while I have those ten years
left to take advantage of it.
Speaker 1 (02:34):
You got I want to know your opinion, your straight
up opinion about the Texans. Are they going to be
any good this year?
Speaker 2 (02:41):
I think so. You know, when we beginning of the
season we said they were going to win the division.
They were like plus one ten. We didn't expect them
to win that opening game against the Rams. Tough place
to play on open Day. But I still believe the
Texans are the best team in that division. I believe
that a most well coached team in that division. You know,
we got a couple of big division games coming up
(03:02):
after Tampa Bay, you got Jacksonville and Tennessee and then
a tough game against the Ravens. But I think as CJ.
Stroud settles in, obviously have a very good defense, again,
a very good coach. I think as the season settles in,
the you know, Creamory's rises to the top. And I
do believe that Houston is the best team in that division.
So I believe Houston will indeed win that division. I
(03:23):
actually think they're gonna win it pretty easily. I think
just you know they are callbout a Rams week one.
No shame, there, no shame at all.
Speaker 1 (03:30):
So, uh, Chris Hodge from taking Vegas Dot Com here,
So can you say the same thing that Houston's going
to win the division in Major League Baseball right now?
Speaker 2 (03:39):
You see, we were having such a peaceful conversation. Man,
this was fun, and you gotta bring this stuff fun today.
Speaker 1 (03:45):
Man, they're what are they tied? Or maybe I don't
know what Seattle ended up doing yesterday, but man got
a one.
Speaker 2 (03:52):
Okay, so the hot You know that the Rangers are
hot right now. The Rangers got the Mets this weekend
and they scored six runs before the gram even took
the mound last night. Because the Mets are so bad,
you know, that's gonna come down to, you know, probably
the last week of the season, obviously, and you know,
Seattle's got the angels right now, Seattle's playing really good baseball.
(04:13):
But I believe in a week or so, you know,
Seattle goes to Houston and that's gonna be a monster series. Lead.
It's a three game set, so that's gonna be a
monster series. And Houston also got to deal with Texas.
So really, you know, it's in Houston's hands. You know,
you take care of the series against Texas, you take
care of the series against Seattle, you're gonna win that division.
(04:33):
You don't take care of those things, you're not gonna
win that division. And I hope and no, this is
this is how I endeared myself to the kb A
meet crowd down there. I hope you guys don't win
the division. I'm sick of dealing with you guys in
the playoff from a Yankees fan, and I want you
guys out, So I hope you guys don't win the division.
(04:55):
Chew the hate mail. The hate mail that's gonna good
coming in right now.
Speaker 1 (05:00):
You and I have had this friendly rivalry. You the
Yankees fan, me the Astros fan for so long, and
it just goes to show you and we are we are,
We should be the post your children for both sides,
two opposing sides getting along. You know what I'm talking about. Yeah,
you know what I'm talking about.
Speaker 2 (05:17):
I do. And that's I'm not going to say too
much now because this is a sports show. But sure,
that's where we are in our country. That is just
a terrible thing. It is a great thing that we
have the freedom to have differing opinions. That's fine, that's
a great thing. But have enough respect for the other
differing opinion, learn something from it and move forward amicably.
(05:40):
Don't move forward like we witnessed three days ago, which
is one of the most terrible acts that I've ever
seen in my life. And I'm going to leave it
at that.
Speaker 1 (05:47):
Yeah, let's just walk. I've talked about it all week
on fifty plus. That's enough of that. So let the
shift gears a little bit. You got the ryder gup
coming to your backyard, don't you, Chris.
Speaker 2 (05:57):
That ryder cup is about a minute away from my house.
My son, my son is actually working it as an
EMT and you know he's gonna be Donald Trump is
going to be there the first day, and I know
my son will be around with him, So that's a
really he's really excited about that. Sure, I think I
hate to say this because I mean, this is like,
(06:19):
how do you do this? Right? I think I think
Europe is a good bet in that. I mean, Europe
is plus one point fifty. I believe they have the
better players. Now I say that to say this, I
am personally not betting that because there's a few instances
throughout the year where I want to root and I
don't want to have money on it, and that happens
(06:40):
two or three times a year. I want to root
for the USA. I'm proud of my country. I love
my country. I want to see the USA win. I'm
not betting against US now. If it was soccer, hell,
I bet against the USA because we suck at soccer.
For these boys and we'll see what happens. But I
do think I do think Europe at plus one fifty
(07:02):
is actually the value play there. I'm not going to
bet it, but I think that's the value play.
Speaker 1 (07:06):
Yeah, let's go back to just the nuts and bolts
of your industry. What's the biggest mistake that people who
don't know much about sports wagering make when they roll
into Lake Charles and go into that sports book and
just say, Okay, I want to I want to, I
want to make a bet. What's the dumbest thing they do?
Speaker 2 (07:26):
I mean, I don't have enough time in this interview
to explain all of that, but I'll just give you. Hey, look,
it's the Paulies. You know, math is math. Sports books
are making billions with a B. I know I have
an accent, so people can't really understand what I'm saying there.
But billions with a B and eighty five percent of
their money is on Paulies and what they're doing. And
(07:47):
the customers out there are hearing a really bad message
because every time one guy wins a ten dollar Pauli
that pays a million dollars, they post it all over
social media. Sure they don't tell you that two million
people just lost every Paulay they had. And right now
the sports books this I can't believe. And I speak
about this on Sports Investors daily. The customers are actually
(08:10):
right now betting what the sports books tell them to bet. Wow,
And I cannot understand that. And I know you guys,
it's not legal down there, so you don't have FanDuel,
you don't have DraftKings, which is the best way to
do it. That's what we recommend to our clients. The
sports books are giving out fourteen Paulay's that people have
(08:34):
no chance to win, and they're actually betting them. So
again it goes back to what I said about five
minutes ago. If you bet straight bets and totals, just
straight up, you can have success. If you bet Paulay's
and you need four or five games a day, man,
don't do it because you're not going to win and
you're gonna get hurt. And we don't want to see
people lose their money or anything else. Like we're trying
(08:57):
to treat this as a business and an investment. And Doug,
I've been on with you guys.
Speaker 1 (09:02):
Two six yeah, like sixteen maybe. Yeah.
Speaker 2 (09:06):
I've been on with you guys for a long time.
My message has never changed. I haven't bought into the Pauli's,
the prop bets. My message has never changed. Be with strategy,
bet with patients, don't bet money you can't afford to lose.
And if you do it that way and you win,
a decent percentage was like sixty percent. You can make
(09:29):
money and you got have fun doing it, so you
just got to stay away from the Paulie.
Speaker 1 (09:32):
All right, So Sports Investors Daily at what ten o'clock today?
We've had two nine o'clock starts back to back, didn't you?
Speaker 2 (09:40):
That was the Texas Longhorns, right, twelve o'clock push back
a little, but you know, we're happy to be back on.
You know, unfortunately last year we couldn't be on due
to not because we didn't want to, but because you
know the way sports gamblers.
Speaker 1 (09:54):
Oh yeah, they got mess that had to be cleaned up.
Speaker 2 (09:58):
We got legal clearance. Houston. You guys have always been
great to me. We have a lot of fun. And
you know, if you visit taking Vegas dot com, you
could also text the word win to the number five
four five four five fur. It's an easy way to
get free plays from us. Every single day there is
a free pick on that text line. So again, text
the word win to five four five four five for
(10:19):
But Doug, you have my promise anyone from Houston man,
I'll always take care of you guys. I'll always go
above and beyond to help you. You guys have been
great to me, and it's only fair if I give it.
Speaker 1 (10:27):
Back my pleasure. Man, if I can get you down
here again, I'll take you out and play some.
Speaker 2 (10:31):
Golf so you can take some money from me like
you did the last time we played. Right. You hustled me, Man,
you hustled me. I put my first drive into a house.
Speaker 1 (10:42):
You can't hustle a hustler. I know that.
Speaker 2 (10:45):
Yeah. I was gonna get chased by bores and alligators. Man.
Speaker 1 (10:50):
With that, I still, man, I got some more alligators
down here. If you want to come down and see
one up close, I promise you I'll send you a
video on a little bit.
Speaker 2 (10:58):
I want nothing to do with alligator and snakes. You
guys have a good time down all right?
Speaker 1 (11:03):
All right, Chris, thanks buddy, it's great talking to you
as always.
Speaker 2 (11:06):
Man, Doug, Yes, sir there audios.
Speaker 1 (11:11):
Holy cow. Yeah, that's an energetic guy right there, an
energetic guy. He was so glad that he called me,
I don't know how many couple about three four months
ago he said, Man, we're coming back. We're ready. Everything's
been cleared and he wasn't in any trouble. Just his
industry was in trouble, is what it. Was, and all
of that is he was. He had nothing to do
(11:34):
with the problems. He just had to wait till some
stuff settled out. And it's settled out and he's back,
and I'm so glad to have him here because he's
a really good dude. And like he said, we go back.
Probably it's getting close to twenty years. It's at least
it might be eighteen now. I was thinking it was
fifteen or sixteen, but it might be eighteen, maybe even more.
I don't know. Longtime relationship with that guy. He does
(11:57):
take care of you, guys. I promise you just tell
him my tell him I sent you. I don't get
anything for that, but he'll get a kick out of that.
Tell him, tell him you can put him on a
big alligator if he wants to come down that. Well,
he'll know that I he'll know that I put
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