Spring Fishing and the craft of Knife making

Episode Transcript

Speaker 1 (00:00):
Wherever you may be, whoever you may be, and whatever
you're about to do today, I hope it's a lot
of fun. I hope there's nothing dramatic unfolding in your life.
On this beautiful Saturday morning. Let me get all this
stuff out of here. I had to kind of laugh
at the weather forecasters the last day or two because

(00:24):
since there were no major storms to talk about, it's
just nice, warm weather, and they had to find some
way to spind it to scare us all. So we
have a fire alert, we have an incendiary potential. I

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don't know if anybody used that term, but I bet
they did. And I grew up here, Okay, I've lived
in this city for the overwhelming majority of the years
I've been alive. And it wasn't until it wasn't until
California caught on fire that Texas forecasters really paid that

(01:10):
much attention and used I guess they saw how shocked
we the world was to see those fires out there.
And then now there's I'm back over on the East
coast too, and they're telling people who live inside the
Loop to be ready for wildfires. They're telling people who

(01:33):
live inside if you live inside belt Way, eight. You
probably don't have to worry about wildfires. There was a
big building fire up there a couple of nights ago,
a really big fire. Actually it lasted into afternoon through
the night. Basically that big building over there on the
west loop around I think around bel Airs where that

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one is, big giant building. I know exactly where it is.
As a matter of fact, I used to pass it
when I was driving driving the kids, mine and a
couple of other families kids to school over there at
off bel Air. I know where that building was heavy
emphasis there. But there's really no reason, I think, to

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scare people who live on concrete and there's not There's
not a vacant lot. There's not an unmowed vacant lot
for miles for a lot of these people. And to
use that time, I don't know. I just get a
little bit miffed by the the sky is falling typical play.

(02:40):
It It bleeds over into the news as well. It's
the news. The only thing I guess they could do
in sports is hypothesize about who might be leaving or
coming back, or or going somewhere else, or being traded
in sports, but they would have to to compete with
the wildfire scare that's been put out just all three

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networks last night. I gonna watch out. It's gonna be
it's gonna be warm, and it's gonna be windy, and
that there's got to be something to burn. And I
know that Texas does a better job with prescribed burns
to avoid wildfires than California does. I saw an interesting

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fact about Texas the other day, or about Houston specifically,
the other day, totally off the fire thing. I'm walking
away from that. I don't think you and I most
of this audience knows exactly what they would do. If
you live in the country, you know what you would
do if something like that started, and if you don't
be glad because you don't want to have to deal

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with something like that. Wildfires are tragic, There's no question
about it. There's no other way to describe them. And
that's probably the mildest word you can use to describe them.
Where don't want to go now, there's just so much.
I've got so much on my plate today, so many
things I want to talk about. Spring breaks in full balloom.

(04:08):
We can talk about that for a little bit. Transitioning
from week one to week two, of this annual bonus
vacation for kids. No such thing when I was back
in school, And what we got instead of spring break,
we just got longer summers. There weren't neither. Were there
all these one day Monday holidays everybody time? Every time

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some well, we got President's Day, we got MLKDA, We've
got I don't know, I don't. I don't think we
get Monday off for Saint Patrick's Day?

Speaker 2 (04:43):
Do we?

Speaker 1 (04:44):
Evan Ray, by the way, stepping in here and producing
this morning, Thank you, Evan. I appreciate it.

Speaker 3 (04:48):
Man.

Speaker 4 (04:48):
Yeah, no problem, dud.

Speaker 1 (04:49):
So the office certainly isn't going to close on Monday,
is it for Saint Patti's Day?

Speaker 5 (04:54):
Oh definitely not the chance. We're here rainers shine for
radio for Shure. That's a good point.

Speaker 1 (05:01):
Yeah, it's kind of twenty four to seven for us,
and as it should be. We are the calming in
the storm. It was not necessarily calming when we have
to go through emergency weather broadcast going to that mode
around here. But what it does is keep people informed
of what's going on and maybe help them go around
something that they don't want to deal with. I know,

(05:24):
sky Mike overr on on k t RH has a
lot of fun with the weather or with the traffic reports,
But when you boil down how fast he gets the
information from this network of people he has who call
all the time and let him know what's going on.
And I'm the same way. I actually jump over the

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tip line. I've got his cell number and I'll just
text him on his cell phone and say, hey, this
is happening on my way to work out on the
Southwest Freeway. You might want to let people know, and
he does, and he does a good job with that.
But spring break is I don't know that there's any

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other time of year when the beaches of Texas are
more crowded. And I'm glad, honestly, I'm glad so many
kids don't leave the country for spring break right now.
A lot of them do. I know they do, and
God help them all the way through their trips, because
I've seen enough stories now, and I've more recently seen

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stories even cautioning parents and young adults from spring breaking
in some foreign countries, in specific regions of some foreign countries,
because it's just not safe at least here. I feel
like we're a little safer now statistically, maybe that's true.

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Maybe that's not for some cities, But I believe that
Texas is doing a pretty good job of policing at
spring breakers. And if you can, if you can stand
going down there and going through the traffic, it's really
not a bad place to be. There are no secret
places you can go down there and fish anymore. Nowhere

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you can thanks to GPS and just this inundation of
people we've had along the Texas coast for the last
what thirty forty years, We've got all these people here.
Now they come here. They come here to escape some
state where it's just wonkey and they don't want to
live there anymore. State sales tax is one thing that's

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driven away millions of people from California from New York.
New Yorkers mostly go down straight down the East coast.
Californias are coming here in droves. And in fact, a
quick fun fact to know and tell I ricocheted off
of this a minute ago. Houston is now the highest

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city the Houston now has the highest number of veterans
among its population, higher than any other city in the country.
And I asked the person who told me that, why
do you think that is? How did that happen all
of a sudden. He said, it didn't happen all of
a sudden. There were so many veterans living in California, though,

(08:19):
who just got sick and tired of the politics there
that they are now moving here in droves and have
been for quite some time. And if that statistic is correct,
then that's all the more reason actually for more of
us to step up and sponsor this this weekend US

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military history feature that I put together every week. Right now,
Phoenix Knives is sponsoring one running of it, and you'll
hear it at some point in this show this morning,
I believe. I believe it's scheduled for Saturday. And if
you like what you hear and you want to support
our military and show them for your business or whatever

(09:01):
how that's done, just call me. I'll set you up.
And it's not an expensive thing to do either. And
based on the response I get when those things run,
people do appreciate that it's a cool little feature. I
think really our imaging department made it cool by doing
the intro for it, and it's pretty special. And then

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what I do each week is gather information from a
couple of really good sources I've got on interesting things
that happened this week in US military history, and I
just kind of highlight maybe a sentence or so on
each of three of those events. And then I also

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recognize three people. As a rule, depending on how much
time I have, I recognize three people who earned our
nation's Medal of Honor in this particular week in history.
And some of the stories that the sources I use
of how those men and women earned that medal of
honor are just remarkable. It's stuff out of the movies
that these people do. Out of the movies. There's a

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new effort underway, by the way to do something. I
don't want to tell you too much about it now
until I get another update from the guy who's doing it,
but there's an effort underway now to do a project
for what's the line the line Cutter's guy. If you
saw that big booth out of the Fishing show, line
cutters got this device that cuts braid like butter. It

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it's a very cool little tool that this man's turned
into a very successful business. And as part of his
giving back, he's got a really interesting backstory. I interviewed
him here on the show about I don't know, maybe
four or five weeks ago now, and what he's doing
is setting up an old military vehicle. He's turning it

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into a beach running shark catching machine, and he is
going to offer that on a regular basis to veterans,
to returning military people who could use a little diversion,
could use a little something to take their minds off
what they've been through. It's fantastic project. We'll hear. You'll

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hear more about that every time he emails me something
new that's going on. And the thing might be getting
close to being ready to go too. It'd be perfect timing.
They can get it knocked out just as the weather
warms up and these sharks start coming a little bit
closer to the beach. Fun stuff that beat shark fishing,
by the way back to the present, all that trafficing

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people on the beaches. Like I said, there's just no
such thing as a secluded stretch of beach anymore anywhere, really,
none whatsoever. And that's okay. It just changes how we
do things. We've got seven hundred and something miles of coastline,
and I would be willing to bet you that there's
not except maybe in some remote area somewhere that I

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really can't think of where it might be. I bet
there's not one mile, one contiguous mile of beach that's
not occupied right now. Somebody is somewhere on that beach
and maybe or maybe not, had a couple of drinks

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last night on the beach, maybe had a little bonfire
burning down down where you can do that. Got an
interesting beach story from a game warden from about thirty
something years ago, maybe forty now. Actually it was maybe
a little earlier than that. It was back in the seventies. God,
how old am I. I'll tell you that story when

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we get back. I will, and it's it's family friendly,
don't worry. I'll and I'll dress it down to make
sure that you don't have to explain anything to the kids.
But it's just about a game warden who was patrolling
the North Padre Island Seashore one morning and what he
encountered on the way out. I'll tell you about Shooter's

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Corner palmerhow went twenty ninth Street in Texas City owners
no hunting buddy of mine, guy named Jerry TK. Jerry
and his son Jay have run that store together since
Jay was old enough to be in there and learn
what was going on. And the two of them, probably
certainly two of the top four or five gunsmiths I've
ever known. These guys just sitting down there in that

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quiet little store in Texas City. And every time I've
sent someone down there who called or wrote me and
said help me please, I've talked to a couple of gunsmiths.
They say, I either need to just throw my gun
away and buy a new one, or I have to
replace the entire mechanics. Whatever. Every time they get sent

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to Jerry and Jay down there shooter's corner, they come
away happy, knock on wood. I'm sure surely somebody will
stump them someday, but it hasn't happened in oh, I
don't know, ten or twelve years. I've been sending people
to them, just an old school gun store. Like I said,
if you walk in there, you're gonna get involved in
a conversation with somebody who's talking about shooting sport or

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talking about hunting, or talking about target anything. It's it's
gonna be gun related, it's gonna be hunting related, it's
gonna be shooting related. And your story is next after
you hear theirs. Everybody just kind of sits around and
hangs around. It's it's a great place to go hang
out if you love the shooting sports or if you
need anything to enjoy them more than you already do.

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my first good opportunity to do that. Man. I've got
all kinds of new sponsors coming into I'll be telling
you about one of them in a little while. I'm
gonna interview this guy next week on the on fifty
plus probably and then I may run it in this
show as well. He's a cigar maker. He I didn't
even know there was a cigar factory in Houston. Well
there's not, technically, it's in Texas City, and I got

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to know the guy who owns it and operates it,
Manny Lopez. He's like, I think third generation Cuban or
something like that. He's He's Cuban through and through for sure.
And everybody who rolls cigars in his place is Cuban
as well, and they learned to do what they do
down there. Let me get Rick Bis on the phone here,
stand by and click Rick Bise, what's up my friend?

Speaker 6 (15:33):
Good morning, man. More on a lot of yesterday, which
is good.

Speaker 1 (15:37):
Oh man, I got more coming.

Speaker 4 (15:39):
Don't worry.

Speaker 6 (15:40):
Hey, your weather fire Californians moving here real quick, rapid
uh on the fire I've seen. I've seen fire out
of control, scary And when you get the humidity right
and you get the wind right, I will promise you

(16:02):
this will explain how firefighters up in Montana and Wyom
and they die in California and how they get killed.
You can't outrun it.

Speaker 1 (16:11):
Oh no, there's no way. Yeah. The wind is blowing
spread so fast it does.

Speaker 6 (16:17):
Okay. The other thing on the on the Californians, and
there's so many you know you said, you know Houston
had the most veterans I can get just from my
spirits of real estate and dealing with people buying and selling.
I know one of the main reasons because I asked people,

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why are you coming here and you'd be surprised how
many of them veterans or I was surprised. But their
answer is they come here because of the b d
A hospital system.

Speaker 1 (16:51):
Oh okay, yeah, that that wasn't on my radar. That's
a good thing to know. That's interesting.

Speaker 6 (16:57):
Well that's the same thing as Santa Yeah. Yeah, all
the air bases. You know, there's a lot of military
hospitals and stuff.

Speaker 1 (17:07):
Man.

Speaker 6 (17:07):
Anyway, I'm just just just an info pack.

Speaker 1 (17:10):
So are you crow hunting or coyote hunting or what
this morning?

Speaker 6 (17:14):
Hey, hey, you ain't gonna believe me. Hey, if all
this rain comes, I'm good. I remember that yellow surfboard
I sent you. I found out the country.

Speaker 1 (17:23):
Yeah, you going to the beach?

Speaker 6 (17:26):
Well no, I've got to be in the back seat, okay,
but I'm going to give it to a guy who's
building him a poolhouse.

Speaker 1 (17:33):
Oh cool, and it's.

Speaker 6 (17:34):
Kind of a man cave pulhouse to hang on the wall.

Speaker 1 (17:37):
Yeah man, that's all right there. Yeah, I'd have been
surprised if you have a gate, man, if you get
pulled over, if you get pulled over with a surfboard
in the back of your truck, Wrick Place you're gonna
have a lot of questions.

Speaker 6 (17:47):
Answer, well, he looks in the back seat of my truck.
I will have a lot of questions.

Speaker 1 (17:56):
I do. I understand exactly what you're talking about. And
you defend it, don't you.

Speaker 6 (18:01):
Hey, yes, very much? All right, man, Hey, I just
shout out for all them veterans. It's coming from California.

Speaker 1 (18:07):
Yeah, they're welcome. Every one of them is welcome, as
long as they don't most of Yeah, that was my guy.

Speaker 7 (18:13):
I got cut.

Speaker 1 (18:14):
Okay later bye, Holy cow. Yeah that's funny. Rick Bisse.
He's in the middle of the hill country somewhere and
he's got a surfboard in the back of his truck. Yeah,
that'll make sense. I actually had to do that one.
I don't remember why, but I had to drive out
kind of just west of here for some reason, just

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farther and farther inland, and I think I was going
maybe to Columbus to go meet a guy about something
I don't know what, and then cutting down to South
Texas to go surfing slash fishing, which I used to
do a lot. I'd make some I put a lot
of miles on my vehicles over the years on fifty
nine going south, either into the hill cover, not the

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hill country, going into South Texas to go fishing or
maybe go deer hunting. Boy, I put a lot of
miles on my car going down fifty nine, and every
now and then i'd cut off at Corpus go down there,
or even before that portal conn or just the whole coast.
They're not a whole lot of this coast I haven't explored.
I don't know that there's any of that I haven't explored,

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as a matter of fact, and I can't. I've also,
I've been fishing more than probably a dozen times in
each of the Gulf Coast states, and probably more than
eighty times in Florida, maybe one hundred up the East coast,
Georgia coastline once briefly South Carolina more than once, North Carolina,

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more than once, Chesapeake Bay one two or three days
on the water there, fished Maine. In every place I've been,
they've got something going on that they they fish, and
they catch a lot of fish. It's good, but I'm

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always glad to get home. The only the only fish
that I would I wish we had more of, and
we have them. They're just far away because Texass dog
gone big. It's snook. That's that's my favorite fish. I
was talking to somebody the other day. It might have
been Forced Wilkinson faux pro about snook and how good

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they are. I think that was him. Let me go
talk to get Tar Dave.

Speaker 4 (20:33):
What's up, Dave?

Speaker 7 (20:35):
Hey, Yeah, hay on our the veterans and our troops.

Speaker 1 (20:38):
Yeah.

Speaker 8 (20:39):
Yeah, over here and between New Waverley, Willis and Conroe
around there. Man, I'll run into them all the time.
They'll be wearing their Vietnam.

Speaker 1 (20:48):
Sure rafts or yeah. Man.

Speaker 8 (20:50):
And they once while you run into World War two
and that's well.

Speaker 1 (20:54):
They're not running anymore, but they're still there, A couple
of them. Oh no.

Speaker 7 (21:00):
Than me, you know, so, I mean they're getting around.

Speaker 8 (21:03):
Hey, no, right now I'm watching I think I think
that's a Carolina skill backing out over here, yeah, on
the on Lake condom right here at eight thirty word
dead ends at the boat.

Speaker 1 (21:15):
Yeah. Man.

Speaker 8 (21:16):
I had to come inside here in the in the
suv because man, it's that wind started blowing and then
we had a little bit of driplets of rain. You know,
it wasn't you know, like it was kind of like
a barely just brief shower.

Speaker 1 (21:31):
Yeah that's out. Oh good. Yeah. There's not supposed to
be a lot of moisture with this thing, at least
not down here where I am.

Speaker 3 (21:39):
Uh.

Speaker 1 (21:39):
It's more gonna be kind of east and north. So
maybe that's why you're getting it up there.

Speaker 8 (21:45):
I hear, hey uh, And then real quick, I'm gonna
take sure they want call cowboy.

Speaker 7 (21:49):
I said, hey, and hay, And that's on the FED
in the sixth.

Speaker 1 (21:53):
Of yeah, five six April April coming up, Yeah, like
three weeks from now.

Speaker 7 (21:58):
Yeah. Yeah.

Speaker 8 (21:59):
The wife is going to visit one of her friends somewhere,
and so I'll probably go up there on that Saturday.

Speaker 1 (22:05):
Oh yeah, man, Yeah, that's hey.

Speaker 7 (22:07):
Man, he's a cool dude. I'll bring another one of
my guitars over there and we'll take pictures.

Speaker 6 (22:12):
Okay.

Speaker 7 (22:12):
Then the fire break on the fire breaks yeah yeah, man.

Speaker 8 (22:17):
The underbrush burning out here, because I'm looking at all
these pine trees, like right here at this boat launch.

Speaker 7 (22:23):
They got them cut way up.

Speaker 1 (22:25):
Oh goodah.

Speaker 8 (22:27):
Yeah, but there's this all concrete or asphole around here.

Speaker 7 (22:30):
Well yeah, that's going National forest.

Speaker 8 (22:33):
They do the control burns over there, you know, around
the roads, county roads and stuff over there, and that's
a good thing to manage.

Speaker 7 (22:40):
I heard they did one on Buffalo Bible over there
somewhere around here.

Speaker 1 (22:43):
Oh wow, I didn't know that.

Speaker 8 (22:45):
Yeah, yeah, around over there they were doing the control
burn right there off of sixteen, I believe.

Speaker 7 (22:52):
Yeah, And I'll be doing to check that out.

Speaker 1 (22:54):
Yeah, well, I'm letting it' I'm looking at the weather
channel radar and on now. Houston area is pretty much
done there. Everything is moving, it's moving off. It's gonna
be windy behind this thing. We all know that. But
the precipitation is it is kind of slim to none,

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and slim's on a horse out of town right now.
Not good.

Speaker 7 (23:19):
When I'm looking at the water rippling.

Speaker 8 (23:21):
I don't see any white caps, but it has ripple.

Speaker 7 (23:25):
Hey, you know what I'm gonna do.

Speaker 8 (23:26):
I'm gonna throw a couple of catfish lines out here,
and then I'm gonna go around in these shallows when
of the lights, when the sun's coming up. Yeah, buddy,
who's some bass fish and goat?

Speaker 1 (23:37):
Yeah, buddy. It's a good idea, man, a good idea.

Speaker 7 (23:41):
I'll dobb around and do that, all right. Hey, man,
let me let you go, and hey, I appreciate you all.
Holler at you more. If I don't catch.

Speaker 1 (23:48):
An zen, I'm still having a good time. That's how
it works, man. Thanks Dave, I'll see you, buddy. Yeah,
I'm looking at this wind. I forgot to tell you
the story about the game ward and okay, I'm gonna
make a note to do that when we get back.
The game Warden story and the wind. I'll hang on.
I gotta make a note, or if I don't make
the note now, I won't and I'll put wind below

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that and then.

Speaker 4 (24:11):
On the edge of my seat without game bin.

Speaker 3 (24:13):
I know.

Speaker 1 (24:13):
I'm so sorry. I know you were just waiting for it.
It is kind of funny. Oh and yeah, it's just funny.
I'll go with that. American Shooting Centers out there on
West tim Or Parkway between Katie and Highway six a
fantastic place to go and enjoy the shooting sports. If
you want to challenge yourself, let that wind get up

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really good this afternoon and go out there and shoot
some sporting clays. That will tell you just how good
a shot you are and how ready you're gonna be
for dove season. If you don't go back between now
and then. It's a great place to go shoot sporting clays.
They've got three complete courses, they've got ten trap and
skeet feels, a beginner's wing shooting area. They have five

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stands setups around the property. Can you tell the owner
Etriigi is a sporting clays guy. There are clay targets
flying all over that place. Did not ignore at all
the rifle and pistol shooters though. Either five yards is
where it starts, six hundred yards is where the range finishes.
And there's also a right kind of Nestled in the

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middle of all of that is a pop up silhouette
range for rem fire shooting, which is really kind of cool.
You get to do a little legitimate metal target plinking
all the way out to two hundred and fifty yards.
If you think you're that good with your twenty two,
that's a long way. You fire a twenty two round
at a two hundred and fifty yard target, You've got
time to go, go build a sandwich and come back

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before you hear that. Think kind of fun. It really
is West tim Or Parkway between Katie and Highway six.
If you're not hitting targets like you want to. They
have plenty of professional instruction. If you think it's it's
there's one hundred percent chance that if you're out there
shooting anywhere on that property, there are eyes on you.
And that's to keep everybody safe and everybody having fun

(26:02):
with the shooting sports at American Shooting Center. Don't worry
about the range officers. They're there to help. If they
come by and talk to you, you just say yes or no, sir, Yes, ma'am, no, ma'am,
and don't whatever it is they told you you did wrong,
don't do it again. It's a great, fun, safe place
to shoot, the best in Texas and the biggest in
Texas actually biggest non military shooting facility we have American

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Shooting Centers dot Com. Yeah, there's a lot going on.
There's a lot of movie parts around here. That's all
I'll say right now. And at some point, well we'll
get it all kicked back up. So first to the
game warden story. This comes from back in the seventies
and a game warden who was patrolling the North Padre

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Island Seashore, which is other than during spring break, it's
a pretty desolate place. The farther you get down to
the beach, especially when you get into the four wheel
drive only stuff and so, and there's big sand dunes
there that's tall as the two story how it's a
beautiful piece of the stretch, a piece of the Texas coastline,
it really is. So he's cracking on driving down that

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beach and from around a sand dune comes running toward
his pickup truck. A young woman who how do I
say this, Evan? She was in her birthday suit. Okay,
she's in her birthday suit. She's running to his truck

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and he thinks, oh my god, this woman's in trouble.
I've got to save her. He rolls his window down.
She comes up, she slaps both hands on the window sill,
looks him dead in the eye and says, you gotta match.
And he said, no, are you? And before he could
say are you okay, she turned around and just disappeared

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back into the dunes.

Speaker 7 (27:55):
And that was it.

Speaker 1 (27:56):
That was the whole encounter.

Speaker 4 (27:58):
You never heard from her again.

Speaker 1 (27:59):
No, no, she was not in distress. She may or
may not have been entirely unmedicated, let's just put it
that way. And just looking for a match that's all
she needed, apparently, that and some clothes. All right, So
that's enough of that one. Oh, mercy sakes the wind?

(28:21):
What was I going to tell you about Ian, I'll
just tell you about what the wind's doing basically, since
we're under this hot fire watch thing right now, the
wind along the coast is still inshore, and the line
of where it changes is getting closer and closer to
the beach. Actually, it's out of the northwest. That's what
it's gonna do. It is mostly northwest stuff northwest at fourteen.

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Let me see where that is. That's at Victoria, almost
west down at Refirio and Evan. You've lived here long
enough to know how to spell Refurrio right, no way, okay,
refuri Oh you'd never If you don't know, you'd never
get it. It is spelled r e f U g io.

(29:10):
The G is pronounced as an R. Don't ask me why.
I don't know the backstory. But if you go into
their town and say, I just love your little town
of refuge, you, oh you want? I don't know what
they'll do. If you're spending a lot of money, they
probably won't say anything. But if you're not, they might
move you along a little farther out in well, a

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little farther inland, maybe fifty sixty miles. All of a sudden,
you're looking at ten, sixteen, fifteen miles an hour at
New Bronzevill's and this is all either north or northwest,
or like I said, down a little bit lower. It
gets a little more well, I actually know all that's
kind of coming out of there with a little update

(29:52):
I just had. It's honking. It's a honking, and it's
gonna keep on honking all day long. It's an interesting
wind pattern. I'm gonna open that map up a little
bit later in the program, maybe during the break, and
just kind of see where the delineation is, because it's
it's just gonna blow all day long, and it right
now it's not that out of control. I'm looking at

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the highest value I have on here is sixteen miles
an hour, and sixteen and a fifteen that's back at
New Brombles again. Then down to the coast and all
it's ten. Let me look a little farther south. I
bet I'll find something there. Usually do. Yeah, there's a nineteen.
I'm picking one now. It just dropped to sixteen at
Los Macho's Farm, Texas wherever that is. That's where somebody

(30:38):
knocked on the guy's door one day and said, hey,
can we put a wind gauge out here? Well, is
it gonna cost me anything? No, no, no, we just
we just need this gauge so we have a better
idea of where the how the wind's blowing around the state.
Sometimes they do that seven one three two one two
five seven ninety Email me Doug Pike at iHeartMedia dot com.

(30:59):
Going back to the entry, I just kind of veered.
I steered the truck into seven different lanes in that
first segment and just bumped off the curb a couple
of times. But by and large, as I mentioned, there
really are no secret spots anymore. But the good news is,
like we also said, we've got seven hundred miles of coastline,
so even during spring break, the spring breakers are not

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going to be that big a problem in most of
the places where experienced fishermen would want to go. But
it's gonna be a little bit farther from a boat dock.
And if you're if you're nineteen years old and you're
on a rented PwC personal watercraft. You're like a rubber
band that you watch them. You can see it if

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you see these people racing around the bay and blah
blah blah, and they're having fun and they've g I
have never driven one of these before. It's really really cool.
But the farther away they get from where they started,
the more kind of anxious they get, and the more
they start looking over their shoulder to make sure they
know the way back there to follow you into baff
and Bay. You don't have to worry about that. They're

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not going to follow you halfway across most any based
system in Texas. They're on a rented machine. They know
that their parents' credit card will get maxed out if
they wreck it or if they somehow lose it or
run out of fuel on it, which shouldn't happen. So
you don't have to worry about them, and you do,
you do. You should have some confidence that you can

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find fish.

Speaker 9 (32:26):
Now.

Speaker 1 (32:27):
Man, if you can't find speckled trout now need to
start rethinking how you're looking for them. Because trick fishing's
been really good. And again we're not even a year
into this new limit, not even a year into it,
and it's really good up and down the coast too.
They're different, different outcomes as you go from little boat

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REMP to boat REMP to boat REMP. Basically because a
lot of places they're still there. They're saying, wow, we're
seeing tons of little trout and a few keepers, but
not that many big ones yet. But they they always
say yeah, they know it's coming down south Man, South
Texas is blowing up with really good trout. These are
all maybe say twenty four, twenty two, twenty three, twenty

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four to twenty five inch trout that survived all summer
because if they did get caught, they had to be
thrown back, and they're just gonna keep getting bigger. Every
time they get thrown back, they're gonna go eat something
else and they're gonna get bigger. And so long as
we can keep that going, and so long as we
can maintain this this very refreshing conservation effort on so

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many I'm trying to think of just the right words.
It's so uplifting, it's so encouraging to see people understanding
why it's a good idea to throw back those big trout,
and the selfish reason is because they get bigger and
you and I and everybody else wants to catch more
bigger trout. The long term reason is that our children

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and grandkids and maybe they'd like to see some of
this too. I saw what it was before it got bad,
and now I'm seeing it come back, and I'm confident
that it's gonna come back tremendously. We'll talk about some
more of that later. We can talk about fishing anytime
in this program. Black Horse Golf Club, that and golf

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black Horse Golf Club up there. On two night, we'll
take two ninety a fry road hanging south. You're gonna
be there in about two miles, two and a half miles.
You'll start seeing golf course. When you do, watch for
a golf course on both sides of the road. When
you see that, put your left or not your left,
your right blinker on your west blinker going south, and

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pull right into the gate at black Horse. From the
time you pull in that gate till the time you leave,
anybody and everybody you encounter who is wearing a name
tag will be happy to help you enjoy your round
all the more. They'll feed you, they'll water you. At
the far end of the range, you can go get
some lessons if you need them terribly. And by the way,

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the biggest change at black Horse this year is that
they have taken the South Course fully private. Now used
to be that they had two daily fee courses. Craig
Hicks and his staff talked about it, looked at it,
checked it out with the big bosses, and decided to
take the South course private, which they've done. There are

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still memberships available and it's a very reasonable joining fee
to a very reasonable initiation, and then once you're in,
you pay your monthly dues and you've got full time
access to that course. Very uncrowded now and undergoing some
tremendous renovation this year in a budget separate from that
of the North Course, by the way, which is still

(35:43):
being maintained and improved on a regular basis. They've got
big plans for both courses this year to make them
both better. The daily fee experience, like I said, still
as good as ever, that giant practice facility still as
good as ever, and both golf courses still is good
and better even in some ways than ever. Black Horse

(36:04):
Golf Club dot Com is website. You can setchef tea
time on that North course right now and that's a
fun course to play. Black Horsegolf Club dot com. All right,
welcome back Dunpike Show on Sports Talk seven ninety. Thank
you very much for listening. Certainly do appreciate it. I
had an email here.

Speaker 10 (36:18):
Let me.

Speaker 1 (36:20):
I'm gonna answer a question that I just got, just
got online question from Rudy. Does he offer online purchase
of cigar? Of his cigars? I can't find a way
to order on his website. He does, uh, And I
don't know. I know you can order them because I
know he ships them all over the country. That might

(36:43):
require a phone call, Rudy, if you don't mind, and
if you can't find a number, let me know and
I'll just I'll give you Manny's I'll give you Manny's
cell phone number. I don't think he'd mind a bit.
He was pretty free wheeling when he handed it to me.
And if you're order and cigars, I bet he'd be
just fine with him. Great guy, he really is, man

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he really is. I was laughing with Evan. He is
so he's so proud of his his his cigars, he
really is, and rightfully so. There are so many different
ones in there. And I just started thinking, Okay, I
know a lot of guys in the golf business. I
know the guys who own businesses and have have vendors
that they need to kind of schmooze a little bit.

(37:28):
I'm I know a guy I'm gonna actually email this
afternoon to let him know that when he has his
big Christmas party every year, he wouldn't hurt to hand
out some of these to some of his vendors that
he brings in. Got a neighbor. I took one of
Manny's cigars to a neighbor of mine, Jeff Cooper, and
told him about it, and he's thinking, Yeah, I'm down

(37:50):
in that part of the down in that part of
town almost every day with some of my people I
work with down there, some of my customers might have
to swing by and get a box of them and
taken to my customers. It's just that's one of those
things that you don't think about it until it's right
in front of you, and then you can't stop thinking
about it. Like, man, who could I give some of
these two? That's El Cubano Cigars, by the way, seven

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one three two one two five seven ninety Email me
Doug Pike at iHeartMedia dot com. You know one thing
I've heard a lot lately about. I heard my buddy's
down a dial talking about it this morning on the
way in is sheep's head and how popular they are
all of a sudden, just so many people sheepshead fishing.
And I don't know where this came from. Back when
I was a younger man, h thirty forty years ago,

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there weren't many people who targeted sheep's head. I'd say
maybe of all the saltwater fishermen headed to the coast
on a Saturday morning with fishing rods, maybe fifteen percent
of them maybe hope they'd catch a sheep head when
they left home. It's a great eating fish, by the way,

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and that explains some of their recent time, and the
more recent time at least in the spotlight. But they're
hard to they're hard to clean there. They really don't
carry as much meat on them, pound for pound as
a speckled trout or a redfish or even a croaker.
Back when they got were allowed to grow big enough
to eat, and that's why one of the reasons speckle

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trout were just so popular. A nice chunk of meat
on both sides of that fish's spine. Red fish number
two or three. I guess, depending on whether you're whether
or not you're talking to a flounder fisherman. If you're
talking about somebody who talking to somebody who loves flounder,
they're going to tell you that's the number two sport fish.
If you're talking to somebody who's like, eh, if I
catch a flounder, it's okay. If I catch a red fish,

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it's okay. They're probably gonna lean on the red fish
because it's gonna fight a lot harder, and it's gonna
get a lot bigger. Another twenty percent of fishermen back then,
back when I was talking about when I was a
younger man and going to the beach more often than
I do now, going to the base, a lot of
them left the house hoping to catch some big croakers,

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and unfortunately, I can't remember the last time I heard
anybody even say they caught a big croker. There have
to be some breeding sized croakers out there to keep
supplying the bait fish croker industry that thrives all summer long.
But I haven't caught one lately, and we used to

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catch them all the time throwing soft plastics, fishing for
speckled trout. You're catching speckled trout, and then all of
a sudden, wow, that thing hit hard. It might be
a little redfish. It turned out to be about a
pound and a half, maybe a fifteen sixteen inch croker.
Been a long time since I've seen a croker that big.

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The surf was full of them. Go down there and
hope to catch some speckl trout in the surf, and
you get there and the waters a little bit kind
of off color, and oh, great, man, there's no way
to try her in here. You go back to the
bait shop by about a half a pound of fresh shrimp,
cut it into little pieces, put it on a hook,
drop it on am and you catch all the croakers

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you wanted back Then not anymore, not anymore the trout.
Great comeback, great comeback. And this a lot of what's
been done has been done in less than a year
now because of the new limits. Redfish are a longer
recovery story, but a very good recovery story, and I'm

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glad they're doing well now. You can hardly throw a
rock in the bay without hitting a red fish these days.
Which is good. It's something else that's taken a little
pressure off. All of saltwater fishing is fresh water fishing.
I can't be sure, but I do feel like there
are Oh gosh, I gotta go, don't I. I'll get

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into some of this in the In the next hour
when we get back, we're gonna be talking to cowboys
Zamanski about that upcoming knife show out there at the
Austin County Convention Center in Bellville. VIP Auto Glass. That's
that is Lisa Hills Company. She and her husband have
run that place for a long time, long long time,
and I stumbled upon them by asking around to several

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trusted sources where I should get a windshield replacement or
who should do it? Not where, because when I called
and talked to Lisa, I said, Okay, where's your vehicle
going to be tomorrow at work? Okay, well, we'll come
by there. We'll take care of it right there on
property for you. Not a problem at all, and it'll

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be done in less than two hours. I said, well, good,
because I have to do a radio show at noon,
and yeah, we'll be there about we'll be there about
nine o'clock. It'll be done don't worry and dog gone
if it wasn't. They did all the complete replacement, reprogrammed
all the computer sensors and all that stuff that's in
that windshield now that are really important to your safety features.

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And on top of that, they quoted me the lowest
price I had found for anybody to do that for me.
If you hear that nasty little that sound on your
windshield when you're driving down the freeway coming back from
spring break or trying to run away from spring break
and go somewhere else, you hear that, you look around
see if there's any problem on your windshield, if there

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is one of those little starburst things. She told me
they can often get to those same day if you
can call them early enough. Vip Auto glasstx dot com
is the website. Better still, just get this number in
your phone so you can call them immediately when that happens.
Maybe keep a little one from becoming a big one.
Two eight one eight zero seven fourteen eighty eight two

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eight one eight zero seven one four eight eight seven ninety.
Thank you all for listening. Thank you Evan Ray for
being here to take care of business this morning. Uh,
we are going to talk in this hour to a
guy who man, he's gonna have his hands falling about
three weeks. Let me get him on the phone as if,
as if he doesn't. Now morning, cowboys and Manski, How

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are you? I am doing good?

Speaker 10 (43:53):
How are you doing, Doug?

Speaker 1 (43:54):
I'm man, I'm okay. I wasn't slammed yesterday like you were. Though,
tell me what's the fascination about spring break? I would
have never connected the two. What are these young people
coming in there buying from you right now?

Speaker 10 (44:07):
Well, right now they're doing their souvenir knives where we
should come and make it programmed? They get the hammer
out their own souvenir knife, and okay, when kids are
out of school, they're coming to see us because that's
when they got time.

Speaker 1 (44:18):
That's pretty cool too. How often do do you just
do that as people come in or are there structured
times when you do that? What do you do for that?

Speaker 10 (44:27):
No, it's a first come, first serve basis. They come
in any day Monday through Saturday, nine to five and
no appointment necessary to come in and have a good time.

Speaker 1 (44:35):
Holy cat, how long does it take to make a knife?

Speaker 10 (44:39):
Well, the souvenir knife takes about twenty to twenty five minutes.

Speaker 1 (44:42):
Okay, how long does it take you to make a
custom knife? About twenty twenty five.

Speaker 10 (44:46):
Knife hour monthween twenty twenty and seventy hours.

Speaker 1 (44:50):
Yeah, I thought so. I thought, so it's a long time.
Why is that, Cowboy? What is it that you're doing?
I guess it's just a meticulous attention to detail, as
much as in anything else, isn't it.

Speaker 10 (45:02):
There is there's a lot of times the epoxy drying,
there's a heat treating process which shake a long time.

Speaker 6 (45:08):
Sure, so there's lots.

Speaker 10 (45:10):
Of little things that will draw it out. But yes,
there's also more attention to detail, the sanding that we
spend more time hammering, all that kind of stuff. So
there's a lot of steps that go into it to
make it all perfect.

Speaker 1 (45:21):
And that's why yours are better than everybody else is
isn't it? Well?

Speaker 10 (45:26):
I like to think.

Speaker 1 (45:27):
So let's talk about cowboys. Amaskie, one of the original
members of the Forged and Fire Team. I guess you
were competing against each other. I don't know if you
could call it a team. But let's talk about the
show that's coming up, and some of those people will
be around. What one hundred and fifty knife makers coming
to the Expo Center out there.

Speaker 10 (45:48):
Eileen has been steady signing up more and more people,
so we might be pushing one hundred and sixty. We'll
have over two hundred vendors when it's all said and.

Speaker 1 (45:56):
Doe, holy cow. And that will be at the Austin
County Expost Center, which is right there. What part of
ten What part of Belleville is that in or near.

Speaker 10 (46:06):
That's the east side of Belleville, right across a railroad track. Okay,
at the Auston County Fairgrounds.

Speaker 1 (46:12):
Oh, I know what, Yeah, I know where that is.
I don't know why I wouldn't haven't I wouldn't. That
wasn't coming to me for some reason. Talk about and
I mentioned early in the program that I was going
to be talking to you, and I said, look, this
isn't someplace where you're just going to go in and
it's going to be it's going to be dead quiet
and there just one guy sitting behind a table with
a bunch of knives on it. You guys are very interactive,

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You're very welcoming the questions, I would presume, and then
you also have a little bit of competition amongst yourself,
don't you.

Speaker 10 (46:41):
Well, kind of we we aren't doing as much of
the competitions. As we've moved to the expo, we've expanded
and changed. I want to work that up. So this
was built so people could come in and originally meet
all the Forest and Fire guys. Oh yeah, and some
of the people they've watched some TV and we've expanded
to other knife makers, so now we actually have twenty

(47:02):
six states and two countries that come to our show.
So technically we're now an international show and we've grown
to become the largest custom knife show, are exclusively custom
knife show in the country, which has made it really fun.
So we'll have forging demonstrations, we've got YouTubers, we've got

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chopping competitions, tomahawk going knife making, all sorts of things
that you can watch participate in, as well as meet
hundreds of knife makers and they love to share their stories,
tell you about their product, how why they've done this,
and just they're very interactive, very colorful group of people.

Speaker 1 (47:43):
That sit and visit with cowboys. I'm ask you from
Forged and Fire and Phoenix Knives out there in Belleville
on the show today, let's get back to you for
a minute. Okay, talk about your journey into knife making.
When did you start?

Speaker 10 (47:58):
I started in ninety seven of it. It was something
I had always wanted to do since I was a
young child, and finally met somebody who did it for
a living that was willing to take me in and
teach me how to do the trade.

Speaker 1 (48:09):
Wow.

Speaker 10 (48:10):
I studied with him and then it just started a
heck of a journey. I I've worked living history sites.
I traveled around to Italy, Germany, France, Spain, working with
different blacksmiths, reading books, practicing, just having fun. It's just
been a whirlwind experience, you know, being on TV, being
in some movies, being on all sorts of things like Wow,

(48:33):
this is just never expected anything like this. Whatever happened
to me right there to live a childhood fantasy?

Speaker 1 (48:41):
Yeah, right there, just on Main Street and downtown Belleville
to all around the world. Is there any difference cowboy
and in processes around the world, you know, any one
country you visit where wow, they do this totally differently
than we do. Probably not.

Speaker 10 (48:58):
There's always differences, but there's also a lot of similarities.
I mean, we're doing kind of I mean the trade's
gone on for four thousand years, so it's pretty well
refined and defined of what we're going to be doing.
I mean, everybody has a little different technique or different style,
which is really fun to in the experience and see
how they do it and why they do their things.
But in general, it's a very very similar technique all

(49:22):
the way around. So anywhere you go, everybody's going to
have the same kind of experiences, and it really just
makes it fun because you have something in common with
so many people everywhere.

Speaker 1 (49:34):
You got these great younger knife makers working with you.
Now anything you see them doing, that just reassures you
that custom knife making is going to be good and
gonna is passing to good hands.

Speaker 10 (49:46):
Oh yes, there is all sorts of great people are seeing,
you know. The ABS last year introduced the youngest master
smith in history. I think she got I think she
was like seventeen when she's got her master smith. I've
got a fifteen year old that's working in my shop
and he came to me already making knives. I was

(50:07):
just at Blade Show Texas and there's a ten year
old who is out there having tables and selling knives.
Holy yeah, we're staying. Some young generations, some really young ones,
really get into this and push it. So if they
keep with it, they're going to carry it to a
whole new level that we just you know, people that

(50:28):
are getting older heart and doing those pushes as much anymore.

Speaker 1 (50:31):
I understand any idea at all. Cowboy, how many knives
you've personally created over the years.

Speaker 10 (50:37):
Well, twenty eight years of experience, probably two to three
hundred knives a year under my bones. And now that
I've got three journeymen working underneath me, we're producing three
times what I was doing. So oh, man, knives that
have come out of my shop, I can't even tell you.
I don't have enough fingers and toes account that high.

Speaker 1 (50:58):
So back to the show real quick five and six
Austin County Expo Center, where parking is free. By the way,
it's something Houstonians almost never see anymore. If somebody asked
you how to get the most benefit from coming to
the show, what would you say?

Speaker 10 (51:14):
Just playing on having fun? Yeah, been the day there.
There's it's all charity driven. There's lots of things to see.
You can come home with some really cool pieces. You
can support the charities from the science Clubs, to the
Lions Clubs, to the boy Scouts. There is. We have
made this a community effort, So plan on having fun,
spend the day there and just really get to enjoy

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and meet the people.

Speaker 1 (51:37):
The Texas Select Custom Cutlery event out there at the
Austin County Expost Center. Prepare, I think, prepare to be educated.
I think that's a good way to put it. Educated
and entertained. How's that?

Speaker 6 (51:50):
That sounds awesome?

Speaker 1 (51:51):
All right, that's gonna that's That's what I'm gonna roll
with from now on. Cowboy Cowboys Amanski from Phoenix Knives
out there in Belleville. The event is a April five
and six at the Austin County Expost Center. By the way,
guitar Dave said to say hello.

Speaker 10 (52:08):
Awesome, very very cool. If you talked to him again soon.

Speaker 1 (52:12):
Absolutely, I can pretty much bet on it. Thank you, Cowboy,
I appreciate it, Buddy.

Speaker 10 (52:17):
Doug, thanks for having me on. Always enjoy your time.

Speaker 1 (52:19):
Yes, sir, audios, all right, we gotta take a little
break here. Holy cow, we do need to take a break.
And oh yeah, I say thank you Evan for taking
care of that. That's done. That's done. I'm gonna tell
you about Belleville Meat Market. Speaking of boy, what a
nice little segue that is. While you're out there, or
before you go to the knife show, or after you

(52:42):
leave it, whatever, depending on what your schedule is, swing
buy Bellville, pick yourself up, pick yourself up a barbecue,
lunch or dinner, depending on what time you're there. They
got they serve that every day of the week, seven
days a week, Monday through Sunday, ten am to seven pm.
A full menu of delicious barbecue offerings now, including mostly

(53:02):
for the kids, but if you want them, you can
get them homemade hot dogs. And then of course that
delicious pecan smoke pulled pork is available as well. Got
bulk pricing on fresh ground beef all the time. They
got wholesale smoked sausage pricing available boney. There's a little
asterisk by this. I kind of like it. Bone in
center cut pork chops because I do love a good

(53:24):
pork chop, two ninety nine a pound and limited just
ten pounds of customer. You got to take it easy
on them. They don't want they don't want to lose
it all to one person forty something years I'm not
sure exactly how many now serving what they call the
Greater Houston community. I prefer to call it probably about
half of Texas. There aren't a whole lot of people
who live in the eastern half of Texas who have

(53:49):
never been to Belleville Meat Market. And for good reason.
If you haven't been yet, go see and you will
understand why I send people there every time I get
a chance to beef, chicken and pork cut the way
you want, giant handmade to Molli's. They have appetizers and
spices and cheeses and all these delicious things. The way

(54:11):
to do it is drive out there. They're about fifteen
minutes north to Sealy, fifteen minutes south of Hempstead on
Highway thirty six. Drive out there with the whole family,
preparing or planning to have lunch or dinner. When you
get out there, and when on the way, have somebody
write down a list of what you want to take
home with you so that you can get kind of

(54:31):
kill two birds with one stone. You get a delicious meal,
and you bring back food to create more delicious meals
for the next couple of weeks or however long you
want to wait. Till you go back. Belleville MeetMarket dot
com is a website. They'll ship anything in the store
right to your door too, Belleville Meatmarket dot com. Hey
twenty huok sports dot seven to nine at the Doug
Fike Show. Thanks for listening. Cab Scott sent me an

(54:53):
email a little while ago when I was talking about
flounders and how big or not flounder, but croker, and
how big they used to be, the ones we caught
along the beach front, the ones we caught pretty much
anywhere up and down the ICW and easy to catch,
good to eat, the ideal every man's fish. Not everybody's

(55:18):
going to catch a blue marlin in their lives. Not
everybody's gonna catch a big trout in their lives, or
a big bass, or a big anything fish. But when
I was little and into adulthood, anybody with almost any
class of tackle could go to the coast and catch croakers,

(55:41):
more than one, each of them big enough to merit
cleaning and flaying and frying up in a pan somewhere
baking in an oven. And as Captain Scott pointed out,
the reason there are virtually no big crokers anymore is

(56:02):
because they don't even have to get but about six
inches long to start breeding. So as long as there
are six inch croakers out there, there's still gonna be
plenty to supply the bait industry. And when they're where

(56:23):
they're netting up all these little ones, I'm sure some
of those six inch ones get scooped up just as fast.
I've seen six five and six inch or crokers in
bait buckets before and in bait wells like, where'd those
come from?

Speaker 6 (56:37):
Oh?

Speaker 1 (56:37):
That's the ones they sold me? So they're actually selling
now in some places, and just randomly. The average size
is probably about four inches I would think for those crokers,
but randomly selling breeding aged croakers to I guess just
keep them from ever getting any big ones anymore, which

(56:59):
is sad. Such a good fish, such a fun fish.
I mentioned earlier that fresh water fishing is also taking
pressure off salt water fishing as we get more and
more people moving here for hopefully for the right reasons.
For the longest time, it seemed like a lot of
people were moving here who wanted to turn Texas into

(57:20):
California or turn Texas into Colorado. And I don't want
either of those things to happen. Frankly, Colorado beautiful state
politics are horrible, same with California, and they're coming here,
as was pointed out by Rick Bice, for the medical
hospital or no, that was that Dave. It might have

(57:40):
been it was David Rick, I can't remember. But for
one reason or for one well, whoever told me that
they're coming here for the medical benefits that these veterans
are who are coming from California and other states. That's
why Houston has the most veterans now. And thank if
you're one of them, thank you for serving our country.
I greatly appreciate that, I really do. But they're also

(58:03):
putting pressure on our fisheries, and some of that pressure
on the coast is being alleviated by what I see
is kind of an uptick in bass fishing. Now, Oh,
speaking of bass fishermen, let me get let me hear forrest.
What's up?

Speaker 2 (58:18):
What is going on?

Speaker 1 (58:19):
Master Doug in tremendous understatement because he doesn't know you.
Evan wrote your location as northwest Houston.

Speaker 11 (58:28):
Well, I'm a little bit more of the northeastern side,
but I'm up here somewhere.

Speaker 1 (58:34):
And more north than he understands that the booming metropolis
of all Alaska, Texas. I'm giving him a hard time
for no reason. He's doing a great job in here.
He always does in any event, would you agree that
there is a little bit more attention being paid to
bass fishing now than there was maybe fifteen twenty years ago.

(58:54):
Unfortunately you are. Yeah, you don't like that, do you? Yeah?
I really enjoyed the last two days.

Speaker 11 (59:01):
I think yesterday on Houston County we had three boats
at the boat ramp. Day before Thursday we actually had
about ten boats at the boat round. We pretty much
hat that lake to ourself yesterday and definitely uptick m h.

Speaker 1 (59:14):
What do you And you told me you're throwing spin
spinner bait's number one, the easiest lord of work in
the world, and you're throwing them in less than a
foot of water, maybe a foot of water, that's it.

Speaker 7 (59:24):
Yeah.

Speaker 11 (59:24):
We actually put a water bottle under the trail motor
to get the trail motor up higher to get to
these fish.

Speaker 1 (59:30):
And for a.

Speaker 11 (59:31):
Guy that carries crowding thirty rods in his boat, I
was happy to say I had two rods on the deck.
We we were throwing a spinner bait and we're fishing,
and when we saw every fish hit the spinner bait,
That's the way I liked fishing.

Speaker 1 (59:44):
Yeah, man, we had a I had a like a
sweet beaver, rigged up with a flipping hook.

Speaker 11 (59:51):
Each time I got to where I saw bed or
something you couldn't throw a spinner bait in.

Speaker 1 (59:55):
In the last two days.

Speaker 11 (59:58):
We caught over fifty I'm sure, her biggest one being
about six good lord and a little oversea. I think
it was six point eight. I think she weighed. But
my nephew had never been to Houston County. He's always
fishing living, and so I'm pretty such sure I broke
him from every fishing.

Speaker 1 (01:00:13):
He'd never go again. You know, your boat wouldn't wouldn't
draft so much water if you didn't have so many
rods in it.

Speaker 11 (01:00:18):
You realize that, right, you're probably right, But it's amazing,
how how how you know how much in the dirt
we got?

Speaker 1 (01:00:24):
But anybody wants to go to Houston County right now?
It's it's on. It's crazy.

Speaker 11 (01:00:29):
And you know they got the wildfires you're talking about
in California, But I'll tell you something worse and worse
in East Texas. When that wind started blowing twenty thirty
up there. Yesterday there was just a haze of pollen.
My black boat is yellow rubber. My god, I was
just I was just yellow.

Speaker 1 (01:00:44):
Yeah. I just swapped emails with Mojo about that. They're
in Montgomery County and Mojo suffers from pollen allergies as
do I and I just I would honestly, I'd prefer
it to be fluofy flu season an allergy the.

Speaker 11 (01:01:01):
Only positive thing right now. We've got some pretty good
thunderstorms up here today. It's it's blowing and going up
here now, yeah, rent some of it off. So yeah,
yesterday it was just I mean, you you just good thing.
I ought to wear a kind of a shartroo some
green fishing shirt yesterday. But that boat, I mean, if
you just rub your fingers on the sixteenth of an
inch thick, it's crazy.

Speaker 1 (01:01:21):
But are you seeing forrest? Are you seeing more kids
bass fishing? I think you know what, I think it
is the high school bass fishing clubs. They really are
catching on all over the country, and that brings more
people to fishing, which I think is ultimately maybe not
for you when you're trying to stay away from crowds,

(01:01:42):
but for the industry in general, that's that's got to
be a kick in the in the arm or shot
in the arm, right. Oh yeah, I know.

Speaker 11 (01:01:48):
And in the last few years I've actually had more
guide trips for high school fishing teams where they'd come
up with their dad and we would run their boat.
And basically all they're hiring me out for is, yeah,
they want a few spots to kind of fish, but
they they're hiring me out just to run the lake.

Speaker 1 (01:02:06):
Yeah, I see that.

Speaker 11 (01:02:07):
When I fished pro, i'd hire somebody, you know, I
don't want any information, just show me how to get round.

Speaker 1 (01:02:11):
Into that killing myself, yeah, without hitting the stump. Yeah.
But I'm seeing a lot, you know.

Speaker 11 (01:02:16):
And some of my older krusty buddies like you and me,
you know, they they'll be upset when they see these
high school kids out there and they're dad's hundred thousand
dollars a dough with thirty thousand dollars worth the.

Speaker 1 (01:02:24):
Live scope on it.

Speaker 11 (01:02:25):
Hey, I said, don't hate if they if they got it,
they got it, don't hate on them.

Speaker 1 (01:02:29):
Just yeah, but they've seen a lot more influce.

Speaker 11 (01:02:32):
You see a lot more kids in the local tournaments,
and I mean, you look at the pros right now,
and you got these twenty somethings eighteen something blowing away
the rick Clones and great Hackneys of the world. You know,
their technology, and they're just you know, and their kids.
They got all the time in the world to practice.
That's what I told my buddy, I said, if you
and I had the time to practice, oh my gosh,

(01:02:53):
we'd be we'd be right there with it. But unfortunately
we got a real job, and you know, we get
practice all week, so.

Speaker 1 (01:02:57):
Life gets in the way. It's still good though, And
anybody who's worried about the Livescope and all of this
other electron anything that comes out, it changes. It's just change,
and change is inevitable. We went from monofilament to braid
it well, we went from dakron to monofilam. At the
braided lines kind of a circle being made. But nonetheless,

(01:03:18):
everything changes. We got fluorcarbon now, we got better rods
and reels now, we've got more reliable boats and engines. Now.
All this stuff is changing, and it's that's all it is.
It's just change, and you can either and nobody's going
to tell me or you or anybody else they can't
fish the way they did twenty years ago. Go ahead,
you know, my more power to you.

Speaker 11 (01:03:39):
But uh, I mean the last two days exactly. You know,
perfect case scenario. The last two days. I haven't taken
the covers off my electronics.

Speaker 1 (01:03:46):
Didn't need to, did you.

Speaker 11 (01:03:48):
With the troil motor, we figured out what the fish
were on. Yeah, and we just put the troll motor out.
I run my big age to get off the trailer,
to run to our area and putt put the boat
back on the trailer that trail around.

Speaker 1 (01:04:01):
God, how easy was that? Oh yeah, my nephew is
like freaking out. It was awesome. From sure. Yeah, if
I was on that boat, i'd have two rods on
the deck to both of them have spinner bats on,
just one one different than the other. I'll tell you
what a bait you talked about.

Speaker 11 (01:04:16):
And that's a great idea to have two three spinner bait,
but baits you've talked about before. If you would have
had one of them.

Speaker 1 (01:04:23):
Man baby one minus baby one, I knew where you
were going. Oh yeah, oh my gosh, you had to
go back and put one on, will you and throw
it and just see what happens. It's you come throw it,
You come throw it. They got there no doubt. Hey,
how far are you from calling the ridge golf course?

(01:04:44):
Do you know where's it at? It's up there somewhere, man,
I'm going that way. It's around lufkin. Can we turn
that into fishing off? It's within an hour of me. Okay,
I may have to. I may have to call you
off the air and talk you. I got something going
on up there in a couple of weeks, and I
leave a lot on for you to know what I mean.

(01:05:06):
I do know what do you mean? Holy cow?

Speaker 6 (01:05:09):
Man?

Speaker 1 (01:05:09):
So up up there? How long is is this pattern
gonna last? Forest up in Southeast Texas Lakes, It's gonna be.
It's just now hitting it stry.

Speaker 11 (01:05:18):
Yeah, yeah, we caught the We caught the first wave
coming in.

Speaker 1 (01:05:22):
So from now the next three or four weeks, it's
gonna be. It's gonna be stupid, oh man. You know.
And that's that. It's so much fun to go bass
fishing and shallow water like that this time of year
where just like you said, you see every fish come
up and just smoke that spinner bait.

Speaker 11 (01:05:39):
Oh I put props to you in sports shocks every
night on my Facebook post yesterday for get a chance
to look at it, so.

Speaker 1 (01:05:44):
I will all take a look. See what's up man,
Thank you. I appreciate that. All right, brother, Let's talk
to you soon. Like I say, holler at me later.
If you need to do something, you need to raise something,
you got you got it man, Thanks Forest, all right, buddy, Yeah, man,
that would be Forrest Wilkinson. Look him up. He's got
a YouTube channel of his own. It's really good. And

(01:06:06):
he does a lot of fish and he sends me
a lot of pictures and he catches a lot of fish.
He does a little bit of guiding. Like he said,
he's got a real job that he has to go
to as well, but he's very good at what he does.
We had a chance to spend a better part of it,
at least a half a day, i'd say, in a boat. Recently,

(01:06:26):
and well fairly recently. It's been too long, I'll tell
you that. Holy cow speaking along, I've gone overtime again.
I apologize Evan timber Creek Golf Club down there on
FM twenty three fifty one. Man, my mouth's not working
right today twenty three fifty one down in Friendswood, about
three four miles west of the golf Freeway. I'll slow

(01:06:48):
down a little bit, that might help. Twenty seven holes.
Beautiful variety of holes too. They're all really fun and
they're just sitting right in front of you. That the
architect on this course. I wish I could remember who
it was, but actually there's no tricks. There's no secret
ways to get around. That's just right there and for
you stand on the t box for a few seconds

(01:07:09):
and you'll see exactly where you need to try to
hit your ball. Maybe you hit it there, maybe you don't,
but at least you will know if you missed that spot,
why you miss you know, you'll you'll find your way around.
It's fun. It's not gonna beat you up. Just enough
sand to keep you honest, just enough water to keep
you honest, and a whole lot of good people there
to try to make sure you have a good time.

(01:07:30):
Timber Creek Golf Club dot com. If you need some
help with your swing, go to that metal building next
to the range. That would be JJ Woods and his
crew and they can they can knock the rust off
anything in your swing. Timber Creek golf club dot com.
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anything and everything related to the outdoors fair game all
the way to nine o'clock. Then we're gonna talk a
little bit about golf. Uh, there's there's that going on.
Got him over there in Pontavidra over in Florida. Hang on,
let me look at something real quick. TikTok, TikTok, TikTok,
tiktalk TikTok. The best move that's been made over there

(01:08:16):
was done by Justin Thomas. By the way, he shot
seventy eight on Thursday seventy eight, very un Justin Thomas like.
And then, oh, by the way, tied the course record
yesterday to shoot seventy two or excuse me, sixty two

(01:08:36):
and find himself four under par and not exactly in
the hunt, not exactly on everybody's mind as somebody who
might win it, but nonetheless well, and I think he's
tied for twenty ninth or something like that. But by gosh,
to not let that seventy eight shake you. That just
tells you how forward facing all these guys are. You're

(01:09:02):
a you're a player of that caliber and you shoot
seventy eight on Thursday. I know a lot of friends
of mine who would just fold up and just not
be able to make another swing, just say forget it,
I'm not playing well this week. I quit. But he
just said, no, I'm gonna I'm going to right the
ship and rolls out ten under par yesterday. It's pretty salty,

(01:09:23):
all right. Back to fishing, back to outdoors, and to
prove that anything goes, I'll tell you I had a
conversation yesterday with a guy named David Pruitt. He runs
waterfowl the what is it Riceland Waterfowl Club, That's what
it is, Riceland. I don't want to mess that up.
A little small office out in Eagle Lake, and I

(01:09:45):
know it's early to be talking about it, but we were.
We were talking about water really and how greatly that
impacts waterfowl hunting for obviously reasons. And what he was
telling me is that he's act we're going to dig
a new well between now and the coming season, about
what eight nine months from now, and he he's gonna

(01:10:09):
make sure that he has water. And the way that
Texas farmers and ranchers have been treated for their water recently.
I'm glad he's able to do that, and maybe that
same well is going to help the farming out there
as well. It's it's not easy to be in the
rice farming business, and that's what we could sure have

(01:10:31):
a We could surestand a lot more of that out
on that vast what's left of the what used to
be a vast prairie west of town and east of town.
Same things going on over there. They get a little
bit better water access, I believe, but I'm not one
hundred percent sure. But the people coming on the on

(01:10:51):
the the people on the prairie west of town, they've
struggled to get the water they need to do their
crops from the state. At least some of them build
wells and pump and that's not inexpensive. Takes a lot
of diesel fuel to keep those water pumps running and
pull that water out of the wells. But they're doing it,

(01:11:11):
and much to the delight of anybody who's a duck hunter.
You've got to have water to have ducks, at least
around here we do. Up north, they hunt them in
dry fields. The ducks are still going to roost though
in water. At least that's got to be there for him.
If you're among the bunch of people who this past
season didn't shoot a whole lot of ducks, you might

(01:11:33):
want to start working on a plan to change that.
Season is still a long way out, but Dave is
already working on a ton of stuff. Like I said,
that he'd rather get done now than when it's one
hundred and something degrees. Holy cow. That's one thing that's
there's a lot of unappreciated, I would say, work that

(01:11:54):
goes on by water fowl guides and outfitters through the
summertime so that you and I and anybody else who
wants to sign up and go out there can just
be driven right up to a beautiful blind that's kind
of half sunken into the ground, and oh, it's just
an amazing thing. And you think it just was dropped
in from the the waterfowl fairies wings. You know that

(01:12:18):
didn't happen. Somebody was out there digging. Somebody was out
there shoring up the walls. Somebody was out there putting
a big heavy cover of branches and leaves and netting
and whatever on it. A lot of work goes into
waterfowl hunting. I did it for fourteen years. I know,
I know what it takes. I know it. But what
it's like to be out there in August trying to

(01:12:39):
trying to dig ditches and dig big holes.

Speaker 12 (01:12:43):
Uh.

Speaker 1 (01:12:45):
I used to could do that. I loved it. I
was just fascinated by it all. Couldn't wait to get
out there and do it again the next year. That
was then this is now. Just make a phone call,
write a check, start peeling off money, whatever it takes,
and get out there and enjoying being the guide ed

(01:13:08):
and not the guide. That's a hard job. Fishing guide,
hard job. That's the one thing that Jimmy West said
it best. Once he and I were we were anchored
and catching fish at one of the wells in East Bay,
many many many years ago, both of us very young
men and having a blast, and some guy from somewhere

(01:13:33):
rolls up in a brand new boat. Just if there
were stickers, if there were price tags on boats, his
would have still been on there. He rolls up in
his brand new boat to within maybe fifteen yards of us,
turns it around and grabs his anchor and proceeds to

(01:13:55):
throw it as though he is throwing the discus in
the Olympics and makes it just a big, beautiful nine
point zero landing if you're trying for the biggest splash.
He won the gold medal for splash when his anchor
hit and of course the fish stopped biting immediately. But
this guy just been fishing a bent rod pattern. He

(01:14:15):
had no idea what he was doing. And Jimmy, he
held his tongue for a few minutes and then he
finally said, Hey, that new boat. Got very proud. Oh yeah, yeah,
I just got it. Just got it last week, Man
Maiden Voyage. That you realize that by the time you

(01:14:35):
pay for that boat, and you pay for the insurance,
and you pay for the storage, and you pay for
all the things you're gonna maintenance, you're gonna have to
pay for with that boat, you could hire me two
or three times a month to take you fishing, and
all you would have to do is fish, and I
would take you to where the fish are. I would

(01:14:56):
show you how to throw the lure to catch the fish.
The guys just kind of he's just shrinking. He was
so proud of his brand new boat, and he was
so excited by it, but he didn't realize at that
point how much effort he was going to have to
put into it, and how much effort these guides put
into it to know where the fish are, to know

(01:15:16):
how to go catch them, to know when to go
catch them. It's unless you're unless you have the time
to learn, unless you have the time to or the
money to hire some guides. So like Forrest was talking about,
unless you can hire some guides to drive you around
the bay and show you how to get around without
running aground, show you some spots to go fish seasonally,

(01:15:40):
then maybe think about just hiring guides. They work really
hard for their money, and if I can help any
of them make another dollar, I'll help them do it.
I know how much work goes into that. I've been
on the sitting around the campfire, sitting around the deer campfire,
talking about how much work it is for some of
these fishing guys. When I've gotten chances to go hunting

(01:16:02):
with them, I just listen because I don't know how
much it takes. That's why I want to listen and
find out how much. And they work their tails off
hunting and fishing guts, no question about it. I think
a dear guy just rolls you to the stand every
day and that's all he does. Nope, there's a lot
more going on. All right, we're gonna pause. We're gonna

(01:16:23):
pause and come back. And when we get back, Oh,
I've got so much, so much more to talk about.
We'll take a little break here. We'll be right back.
The Doug Pike Show on Sports Talk seven ninety eight
fifty on Sports Talk seven ninety Good heavens, how time flies.
We're almost to the second hour. That the first hour
was about good speed. This past hour is blown. By

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holy cow, it really has. I'll open the floor, I'll
open the phones, I'll open the emails, pretty much anything
outdoors related. On this spring break weekend. We're right in
the middle of spring break, right, some schools before or
some schools after, Is that right, Evan.

Speaker 5 (01:17:03):
Yeah, Some some do it on this week, some next week.
It's kind of all over the plate.

Speaker 1 (01:17:07):
Did you during spring You're a much younger man than I,
trust me, I know, I don't look at it anyway.
So during your spring breaks, did did you ever travel
out of the country. No.

Speaker 5 (01:17:20):
I wasn't the type of guy to try out the
country every spring break or summer break or that sort
of thing.

Speaker 1 (01:17:25):
Some of your friends do that.

Speaker 5 (01:17:26):
Uh not really, it's kind of like a short time
only those like visit family.

Speaker 1 (01:17:31):
Maybe, Yeah, just out and back, just just a chance
to not be at school.

Speaker 4 (01:17:36):
Yeah really, I mean hit the beaches or something.

Speaker 1 (01:17:39):
Yeah, but stay stay close to home. I couldn't agree more.
And I hope my son doesn't get wander lust when
he gets into college like that. If he does, first
of all, I'm gonna try to talk him out of
it as hard as I can, because if you're in
a different country that most of these young people don't realize.
If you're down there play, I don't care whether you're
down there fishing or whatever you're doing. You're in a

(01:18:00):
different country. The laws are entirely different than ours, and
you can't just call mommy or daddy to come get you.
It's not that. It's not that easy, and a lot
of kids get wrapped up in stupid stuff when they
do the spring breaks in other places. You can still
everything that they're doing in Kozaml right now is also
being done at South Padre. It's being done in Galveston,

(01:18:22):
not to such a degree though. Galveston actually dodges from
what I've told. From what I'm told, except for maybe
East Beach and then maybe down towards San Luis Pass
and a couple of areas where it's going to be
really crowded. Overall, Galvus is not that bad. It's the
traffic getting there might be bad. But maybe if you

(01:18:42):
take Take two eighty eight south and then slide in
across San Luis Pass, maybe to get there a little
bit easier on your on your nerves trying to get in,
and you still get the beach, you still get the fun,
you still get the friends. Only you don't have to
show a passport to come back into Houston, and it's
just so much safer to be in a within a

(01:19:04):
comfortable distance of home. I wouldn't mind, maybe if my
son wanted to go to Florida. But I know how
some of those spring breaks go to because I have
friends who live down that way. And if you're anywhere
near that that Atlantic Highway, you're just it's going to

(01:19:25):
take you an hour to go half a mile. That's
not cool. Seven one three two one two five seven
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I gonna. Oh, Evan and I were looking at the wind.
How far north did you go to school? Evan?

Speaker 4 (01:19:41):
I went to Texas, Texa Lobic area.

Speaker 1 (01:19:42):
Okay, well, all this I talked earlier about how it
really wasn't blowing as hard as they said it was.
Going to here I found. I found a seventeen. A
few seventeen's now over pretty much toward well into Louisiana.
I got I actually got twenty miles an hour. Where
is this the Louisiana Regional Airport? Wherever that is. It's somewhere. Yeah,

(01:20:07):
I'm not sure exactly where it is. Yeah, it's east
or west of New Orleans, a little way west of
Lake poncha train. It's blowing twenty but that's about it.
There's a twenty one a little farther way up into Louisiana.
But you come back over here to our side of
the Sabine River, and now there's a twenty one. We

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finally got to twenty miles an hour at sugar Land.
That's that where I am. There'll be some there'll be
some little twigs in the yard, some of the remnants
from our wind event a little while back. Every time
the wind blows something from the hurricane or still there's
little branches stuck up in the trees from all the
way back to then. Yeah, it's not as bad as

(01:20:51):
they said it was going to be, but it's still
you have to pay attention to it. And up into
the middle of the state. Now it's starting to blow
a little bit. There's a nineteen, there's a twenty. But
there's also far more single digit wind values now that
coming from the southwest, which is where it's supposed to
be coming from. Well, all that hard wind, so the

(01:21:13):
line it's not gonna it might get here later in
the day, I think, but it's good. It's very interesting
to watch these wind patterns. I find it interesting anyway.
They are like it's like watching just it's almost like
slow motion of I don't know. It's for most people
that probably liking it to watch them paint dry. I

(01:21:35):
find all this stuff fascinating, though, I really do. Seven
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the break early this time, Evan, so that I can
kind of balance out the universe, because I've been going
on in so late will appreciate it. Yeah, let's do that,
and then you can clear up whatever you got to

(01:21:55):
clear up on that board over there. We'll take a
little break here, we'll be right back. We'll talk about
a little bit of golf the Players Championship over there
at Pontavidra when we get back. More than Doug Pike
show right after this seven one three, two two five
seven ninety. Email me Doug Pike at iHeartMedia dot com.
I've got an email from Kevin I want to get
to in just a minute. But before I do, I'm

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gonna go ahead and talk about the Players Championship for
just a little bit. See who's leading, who's making moves
and all that good stuff. Men woo Lee and Akshay
Batilla Lefty. I love following lefties. I'm kind of kind
of giving up on Phil. Not that not that I'll
I don't just ignore him, but he's changed since he

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was the hard scrapping young lefty who was coming through
the ranks many many years ago, and he was one
of the few who were out there. Uh, there's the
Canadian I can't recall his name offhand, but there's him
and Mickelson. And that was about it and now Ax
Shave Batilla. He's as good as they get. JJ spawned.

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Well that those two men Akshebatia eleven under par, JJ
spawned ten. Rory McElroy. I gotta scroll down and make
sure Colin Morikawa and Alex Smalley all at nine under
par at the halfway poll, Lucas Glover and will Zalatorris
at eight. Will Zlatorus is another guy. I kind of

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think he's gonna do some he's gonna make some noise.
Good player, Tommy Fleetwood, Jake Nap at seven, and I'll
take a deep breath and read the sixes. Then I'll
stop because there are too many fives. We'd run out
of time. Jacob Bridgeman at six along with Emiliano Grio.
He's kind of making a comeback. He's playing a little
bit better lately. Harris English, Billy Horschell, and Septstraka. They

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all within five shots of the leader. And so that
puts that at a dozen people actually, well, eleven, twelve, thirteen, fourteen, fifteen,
fifteen people within five shots, and I got a hunch
it's the winner's gonna come from one of those fifteen. Again,

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it's a PGA tour event. Anybody could catch fire and
go super low today and not go the other way
on Sunday and maybe come out of the fives or
the fours. But beyond that, everybody's just playing for a
little bit more money, a little bit more money than
they have today. And that, by the way, those four

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under pars, like I said, include Justin Thomas, who who
really proved the metal these guys have when he went
seventy eight sixty two. That's sixty two, tying the course
record on yesterday. Let's go talk to Bob if I
can get this mouse up here. What's up, Bob?

Speaker 7 (01:24:48):
Good money straight.

Speaker 3 (01:24:50):
It reminds me of something that happened to us, and
I think I think it's important that people hear more
of this. Okay, my buddy, we're fishing Trinity Bay fisher
Show out there, and we talked the boat at the
end and we walked out the end of the show.
We're catching trouts, and I think it was Burrell McBride
pulled up and his party got out. We're all catching

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fish and this guy pulls right up to where we're
fishing as up and starts fishing with you know, like
you said, the fisher're gone.

Speaker 1 (01:25:20):
Yeah, well, holy cal we all.

Speaker 7 (01:25:23):
We all get ready to pack up and leave.

Speaker 3 (01:25:25):
And this guy that's in the boat yell, hey, hey,
I need some help because I lost my prop.

Speaker 1 (01:25:32):
Well guess what we got.

Speaker 7 (01:25:33):
In the boat and left.

Speaker 1 (01:25:35):
Oh boy, I was terrible.

Speaker 7 (01:25:37):
I think about us. Shouldn't have done that? You know
what he deserted.

Speaker 1 (01:25:41):
Yeah, there's a rule. I don't know what the exact
rule is, but I would say that just to be
on the safe side, if you're running at speed, you
need to be probably two hundred yards at least away
from anybody else. And if you're idling in and you
need to keep about seventy to one hundred yards between

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you and the next boat.

Speaker 7 (01:26:07):
He came in where we were casting.

Speaker 1 (01:26:09):
Oh yeah, I'm sure.

Speaker 3 (01:26:11):
And you know, I've had others where we were working
birds the same way and I was on one side.

Speaker 7 (01:26:16):
Of the birds and another boat was on the other side,
and we're all catching.

Speaker 3 (01:26:19):
This guy comes right between us.

Speaker 1 (01:26:21):
Of course he does. But Murphy's man.

Speaker 3 (01:26:25):
And what I'm really saying this for is all yather
are out there fishing, you use some common sense.

Speaker 7 (01:26:32):
Listen to you, dug have them listened to you.

Speaker 3 (01:26:35):
And others don't do that. I mean, there's plenty of fishing.
If you'll get in line, you'll catch them.

Speaker 1 (01:26:41):
Yeah, if you the really frustrating, the real frustration is
like you're in the scenario you're talking about where you
guys are wade fishing. You're making a deliberate effort, deliberate
effort to be quiet where you're fishing, and this guy
comes rolling in, tosses his anchor with the side, and
as soon as he rolls up, he's already scared of

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the fish. So it's just a waste of time to
stay there. And yeah, just just ask yourself how you
would feel if you were catching fish and somebody like
you rolled up on you. You can't beat yourself up.

Speaker 3 (01:27:20):
Yeah, and if it happens a lot on jetties too.

Speaker 1 (01:27:24):
Yeah, jettyfishing that the boats will come in right close
to somebody who's walked a quarter mile out the rocks
and gone to all that effort because they couldn't afford
a boat for whatever reasons. It's you know, but they
like fishing just as much as you do in your boat.
And give him a little room, give him a little room.
Make go, no, you go, man, You got some good

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stuff here.

Speaker 3 (01:27:46):
Well, another thing I got rid of my boats. GUIDs
are the best way to go. That's so expensive, storage
and everything, insurance and guess and all that, and then
you got to find them.

Speaker 7 (01:28:00):
A couple of trips a.

Speaker 3 (01:28:00):
Week are a month or so, you know, you're you're
ahead of the ball game.

Speaker 1 (01:28:05):
Yeah. If you're you're doing two guide trips a month,
you're you're saving money, you really are.

Speaker 3 (01:28:11):
And and people have to think about that. I know
people want their boat and they do this and that
and everything because you know, I'm miss stealing my crappie fishing.
But boy, I'll tell you what. Speaking that they've got
Lake Houston solo. You can barely launch a boat. Oh
my gosh, it's probably three or four foot.

Speaker 1 (01:28:31):
I didn't realize that they're doing.

Speaker 3 (01:28:33):
Yeah, you know what, I'll send you some pictures on
the on your website.

Speaker 1 (01:28:37):
Yeah please. I just thought of something, Bob. I wonder
if a guide or a couple of guides, And I
know Captain Scott's all listening, and I bet he might
kind of think about this. For the people who own
boats but don't want to hire a guide to go fishing,
might be like a service that they could provide in

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real time. You can call guide at Captain XYZ, whoever
he is, and say, Hey, I'm going fishing in the
next forty eight hours in the bay where you make
a living. Can you give me a couple of spots
that I should start where I should start? And I
bet you if you'd venmo that guy a little bit
of money where that he could make sitting in his

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easy chair after he's finished cleaning his boat and he's
getting he's all ready to go with the next crew
for tomorrow morning. I bet some of those guys would
share just enough information to help a boat owner who
wanted to do it himself but needs kind of some
training wheels, if you will, I bet they could make
a little side hustle money on that.

Speaker 3 (01:29:41):
But you know, we was used to fish eating lake
in Mississippi for crappie. Yeah, and there was an old boy,
a guy named mister Johnson. He was an old guy
and for fifty dollars you could follow it.

Speaker 1 (01:29:53):
Oh yeah, I remember that. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.

Speaker 3 (01:29:56):
But I don't think I'm not saying you're wrong about
what you said. But I don't want these guys to
give away their position because I guarantee you they're gonna
pull up to that site one of these days and
there's gonna be two or three boats there.

Speaker 1 (01:30:09):
Well, yeah, but see, I've kind of I've gotten overthinking
their secret spots anywhere. These guys know. And I wouldn't
ask any guide ever to give up. If you got
a guide trip tomorrow, you don't give up the first
three spots you're gonna go to. You could, but for
for twenty thirty bucks. Yeah, I'll tell you a couple

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of places. There's gonna be some fish. There's gonna might
be several boats on these places, but you'll catch a
few fish. And that's really what the average boat owner fishermen,
not the really good guys, but the average guy, the
average trout fishermen in Texas only catches one. Every time
they go out for a whole day trying to catch trout,
they catch one. You know, what do you think of

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this three trai limits, the three trout limit? I absolutely
love it. It's it's it's forcing us. Yeah, it's forcing
us to do what we needed to do to re
establish a fuller, if you will, fishery that has the
it has fish in every class. The big fish were

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virtually gone because people were they were just keeping them
hand over fish. Twenty three, twenty five, twenty six inch
trout gone, okay, And the now you're sitting at this
nice narrow little slot of fish you can keep that
protects the little bitty one so that they can more
of them, can become a little bit bigger. And then

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you get your three keepers. You get out of there
you're throwing. Ask anybody who's who's chasing big fish down
in Baffin right now, if it's already made a difference,
they'll tell you absolutely it has, because every every twenty three,
twenty four to twenty five inch fish that was thrown
back since last May is twenty six, twenty seven, twenty five,

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twenty eight whatever now and bigger. Yeah, that's been that's
gonna overall. That's the only way we could protect that
fishery from all of us and an occasional freeze.

Speaker 3 (01:32:08):
Well, I'm just wanted, like, you know, go buy.

Speaker 1 (01:32:13):
To Tilapi at the grocery store. How many when I
hear you on average, on average, Bob, how many trout
do you catch every time you go fishing?

Speaker 7 (01:32:26):
Well, I think I'm a little better than most.

Speaker 1 (01:32:29):
Oh, I agree, with that. That's why I'm asking.

Speaker 3 (01:32:31):
And I can catch I'd say six seven every time
I go out, okay, and.

Speaker 1 (01:32:37):
The six seven keepers? Yeah, six or seven keepers you're
talking about? Yeah, yeah, okay, So you're catching six or seven,
but there's a thousand guys right behind you. We're going
to catch one. And the limit makes no difference to
the average trout fishermen until they take it to zero.

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And maybe you can cat one every other day. It's
not gonna affect the average person. But with more fish
in the bay, how fun is it now when that
guy who's averaging one is suddenly averaging two keepers a
day in a couple of years, and he's throwing back
three or four more. That's what That's what you're out
there for it. I don't know anybody who who owns

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a boat and who fishes regularly who is gonna starve
if they don't catch three speckle trout. That's true too.

Speaker 3 (01:33:28):
And you know what, I wish a limit they would
put on this crappy.

Speaker 7 (01:33:32):
Yeah, don't need.

Speaker 1 (01:33:34):
No kidding. Yeah, I'm sorry.

Speaker 3 (01:33:36):
I you know, I used to think I needed them,
but now five or six is plenty.

Speaker 1 (01:33:41):
Well, that's the same we go back to the white
bass with white bass, when people would come in with
trash cans full of white bass just because they didn't
never stop the biting. Yeah, well that's like years ago,
he got.

Speaker 3 (01:33:54):
Oh, man, we used to catch a thousand fish.

Speaker 7 (01:33:56):
Now, yeah, he cares about about two hundred.

Speaker 1 (01:33:58):
You can't imagine.

Speaker 7 (01:33:59):
Why can't figure it out?

Speaker 1 (01:34:00):
Can they?

Speaker 6 (01:34:01):
No?

Speaker 1 (01:34:01):
Just head scratchers.

Speaker 3 (01:34:03):
Well, I didn't mean to take up so much.

Speaker 1 (01:34:05):
No, no, no, I enjoy talking to you. I always do.

Speaker 3 (01:34:08):
Every time I hear you tell a story, I can
think of a dozen that happens.

Speaker 1 (01:34:12):
Well, keep them coming, man, That's that's exactly what this
is for, Bob. This is your this is your form
as much as it is mine. Thank you for listening.

Speaker 7 (01:34:20):
I sure enjoy it, you know, day I appreciate it.

Speaker 1 (01:34:22):
Man, twice two days.

Speaker 7 (01:34:26):
Not sending you those pictures.

Speaker 1 (01:34:27):
Thanks? Ye please, I'll see what is it?

Speaker 3 (01:34:29):
iHeart Doug Pike.

Speaker 1 (01:34:30):
It Doug Pike at iHeartMedia dot Com exactly, Yes.

Speaker 4 (01:34:33):
Sir, do that right now, thanks man.

Speaker 1 (01:34:37):
Yeah, that's that's a nice phone call right there. I'm
happy to hear your stories. They're as excited, at least
as exciting as mine. Half the time, it probably more
exciting the yeah, I'll I'll reiterate, the three fish limit
is gonna do.

Speaker 6 (01:34:53):
This.

Speaker 1 (01:34:54):
We're just not even a year into this, okay, and
already the people in in whom I place great confidence
about knowing what they're talking about, say that already there
is a tremendous uptick of enthusiasm and excitement and confidence
in that fishery doing a really good job of recovery. Oh,

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you want me to take him now, Evan or after
a break.

Speaker 4 (01:35:23):
Is your call, Doug. But it looks like we're ready
for a break.

Speaker 1 (01:35:26):
Okay, I'm gonna ask David to hang on. I'm gonna
go straight to this one so we don't have to
keep him on hold any longer than is absolutely necessary.
And we'll deal with this other stuff when we get back.
The Doug Pike Show on Sports Talk seven ninety fteen
on Sports Talk seven ninety The Doug Pike Show, Thank
you for listening. This beautiful Saturday morning gonna get even beautifuler.

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That's not a word I know, but that's what it's
gonna be this afternoon. Beautifuler, warmer, windier, and hopefully we'll
get through the next six or seven glorious. After after
today we go back to a more spring like temperature
for about a week. What's up, David, Thanks for hanging

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on man. I appreciate that.

Speaker 2 (01:36:11):
Yeah, thanks for taking my call. Drumod dovetail into your
saltwater fishing and walk and I go on to golf
Shores next month, and I hope that I'm planning on
fishing off that pier.

Speaker 7 (01:36:21):
That's a good work pier over there.

Speaker 2 (01:36:23):
And I thought I knew. I finally got to the
point where I know what I didn't know, and I
want to bounce some such things off of you and
then hang up and listen. You gotta know how to
You got to know how to tie nots. I mean
I didn't know how to tie out. So I've been
on the back patio practice and Uni knights and double
Uni knots.

Speaker 1 (01:36:40):
That's good.

Speaker 2 (01:36:41):
Uh gotta I put I put braid. First time I've
ever fit tried braid. I put braid on my reel,
and I know I've got to be got to use
I got forty pounds monofilment as a as a lead.
And you got to have a Uni knot.

Speaker 6 (01:36:56):
A double Uni knot.

Speaker 2 (01:36:58):
You don't want to use a swivel on your lead, you.

Speaker 6 (01:37:00):
Want to tie it directly.

Speaker 2 (01:37:02):
I would not have known how to do that until
I learned how to.

Speaker 1 (01:37:04):
Do a double uni.

Speaker 2 (01:37:05):
But I mean, and anyway, I mean, I'm just an
average guy. You know, I don't know all these knots
on the boy scout.

Speaker 1 (01:37:14):
I'm only laughing because they sound like like figure skater jumps.
You're doing your double us and you're all of that.

Speaker 2 (01:37:21):
But you but you got to know how to do
this stuff. If you're going to catch fish, I want
to give me some. I mean, take that and run
with it. In terms of peer fishing.

Speaker 1 (01:37:32):
What are you going to try to catch over there?

Speaker 2 (01:37:35):
Well, I've got I can't even remember all the rules.
I got some lures, maybe Spanish mackerels.

Speaker 1 (01:37:41):
Spanish mackerel, yeah, probably, When are you going next month?

Speaker 6 (01:37:45):
Next month?

Speaker 2 (01:37:46):
Some bubble bubble corks or bubble jigs?

Speaker 1 (01:37:49):
Yeah, okay?

Speaker 2 (01:37:51):
Uh and tie a uh you know, a straw in
the end of on the end of a lead with
a trouble hook on the end of it, and pull
that thing through the wall you uh rip it just
uh yeah. And you know, if I catch something, the fine.
If I don't, it's better than working right.

Speaker 1 (01:38:07):
Yeah, it may be. I mean you may trip over
some king mackerel by the middle of April over there.

Speaker 6 (01:38:14):
Uh.

Speaker 1 (01:38:14):
I went to school in Mobile and a friend of mine,
the guy who played center field. I played right field,
he played center field, and well he was a senior,
I was a freshman. But nonetheless we both love surfing
and fishing, and we spent a lot of time over
that way. And I want to say that their king
mackerel might be in the surf by then, and by
in the surf I mean within a half you know,
quarter mile shore. And if that's the case, then just

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just upgrade and hang on.

Speaker 2 (01:38:40):
You know, well, my first time I've used braid, Doug,
and you know how you typically use a little fingernail
clippers to cut them on a funnel it you can't
cut braid. You got to you gotta use a knife
on it. You can't cut it on the level.

Speaker 1 (01:38:54):
Get online, I mean, I'm gonna help you out. Get
online and go to a line cutters l I N
E C U T T E R s Z. And
that guy I've gotten to know that guy. He's he
makes a very handy little device that just cut it'll
cut eighty pound braid like it's butter. So ok yeah, yeah,

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he makes a good product, he really does. It's a
good thing to have around. And that braid, the braid
does not stretch, okay, what and so you're gonna start
feeling a lot of a lot more down the rod
tip or off the rod tip and into your hands
than you used to with monofilament. Monofilament's like throwing rope

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compared to thread. But that thread you're gonna be using
now with the braid is much stronger than that old monofilament,
and it's it's gonna be easier. You'll be able to
cast farther all that good stuff. How much leader are
you trying to put out in front of your braid?

Speaker 2 (01:39:52):
Well, I was going to use about two or three seed.

Speaker 1 (01:39:54):
Yeah, that's plenty. That's plenty, okay. And you know, if
you if you get broke off or you you know,
run your face down it every now and then and
make sure it's not all chopped up and scratched up,
because every time you nick that stuff, it loses a
little bit of its strength. That the leader material you're using.
And if you if you really want to splurge go
ahead and use floor carbon leterer because it's harder for

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the fish to see, and over there you're gonna be
in a lot clearer water than you're probably gonna be
in over here.

Speaker 2 (01:40:21):
Well, the other thing Doug I noticed reading kind of
watching online is you'd have to change that monofilament out
pretty soon because it's like you start catching fish, they
start working on it, right, Oh yeah.

Speaker 1 (01:40:30):
Yeah, yeah, they're gonna be chewing on it, and you
know every time, especially Spanish mac while, you're gonna have
to be really careful with that. And you might even
think about it. If you could go to a fly
fishing store somewhere, you can you can buy like four
inch steel leader, okay, just for it. There's a loop
on one end and then it's a four inch down
and then it comes back up a couple of inches

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in a little you know, in a tight v where
you can just drop your lure on that little short
length of steel and then just do a little barrel
barrel roll on there, and all of a sudden you've
got yourself a four inch protection from those teeth because
Spanish mackerel teeth unless you're using it at least got

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at least thirty. They're gonna chew it all up, and
they're probably gonna get through it. If they get those
teeth on there three or four times, they'll chew through it.
And as fast as you'll be moving that lowre it's
a reaction strike. They want to hit it before another
mackerel gets to it, so they're not going to be
scrutinizing it too much. And that four inches of steel
keep you in the game all day.

Speaker 2 (01:41:36):
I got that too.

Speaker 6 (01:41:37):
I got that too. Good, good cool.

Speaker 2 (01:41:40):
I'll give you if if I kitch you and dig
I'll send you pictures.

Speaker 1 (01:41:43):
No, please do, man, I want to see them, as
it remind me some good, good memories of mine, for sure,
Thank you.

Speaker 2 (01:41:50):
Bet, I'll see David appreciate it.

Speaker 1 (01:41:52):
Mo boy, Oh man, I just blew him up. That
got me all excited. Yeah, I watch guys. The first
time I walked out on that pier, I wasn't fishing.
My buddy and I maybe Mike. I can't remember Mike's
last name, but in any event, we walked out that
pier one day contemplating whether we would come back and
fish it, and we watched a couple of guys catch

(01:42:14):
King mackerel off that pier. That was it. We never
left Mobile without fishing rods and surfboards from that point
on and had some good times over there. It really
was a lot of fun. We are getting, what is it,
a thousand foot pier where a thousand foot pier where
Rollover Pass used to be, And that's that's like driving

(01:42:38):
a new pickup all your life and then somebody takes
away your pick up and they give you a bicycle.
It's a nice bike, and that thousand foot pier is
going to be nice, but it will never be the
same fishery that rollover Pass was. It will never be
as accessible to any body as rollover Pass was. It

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would roll over pass. That is where countless people learned
to salt water fish. Countless people caught their first saltwater fish.
If you knew what you were doing, and you were
there on the right day in the right season, you
could catch some really big trout there. A lot of
redfish caught there. It greatly helped the exchange of water

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in East Bay and now it's filled it on in
real estate's real estate. And if there's water where you
want real estate, all you have to do is just
dam it up and plug it up and till everybody goodbye.
That was probably one of the most disappointing things that's
been done along the Texas coast in a long time.

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And to come back, I'm glad they're building the pier
and I'll probably go down there once it's finished and
just experience it. I'm kind of curious to see how
they build it and whether or not they can actually
guarant anybody it's gonna be there after two or three hurricanes.
I hope they just make it bulletproof, make it as

(01:44:06):
storm proof as they can be. Surely there's better technology
than was built. Uh. Then the San Luis Past Pier
was built with or the Surf Side Pier back in
the seventies. Both those were those were two of the
best places to go fishing on the Texas, on the
entire Texas coast, and they got washed away with storms.
Let me go talk to Grant, see what's up with him? Grant,

(01:44:27):
what's up?

Speaker 7 (01:44:27):
Man? It do gotta be real quick.

Speaker 9 (01:44:30):
But uh, I was calling to ask you about the
Nymphis of the Memphis the Mobile Jubilee. You were just
speaking a bit about mobile and I was seeing if
you could tell us anything where if you knew anything.

Speaker 7 (01:44:42):
About the jubilee over there.

Speaker 1 (01:44:45):
Oh I used to gosh, oh, he hung up on
me already. I'm gonna look that up during the break,
because yeah, that it's that triggered a memory. But I
can't remember exactly the details of the mobile Jubilee, but
I'm gonna look it up. Jay U B l E E.
I know how to spell it, and I'm gonna do

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that while we go to this break about that, let
me remind you one more time about that big show
that's coming to the Austin County Fairground and Convention Center
in Belleville, the Expo Center in Bellville. That's April five
and six, and on April five and six, what you'll
be able to do out there is meet more than

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one hundred and fifty Now, according to Cowboy in his
interview an hour ago, you're gonna be able to meet
more than one hundred and fifty of the best knife
makers custom knife makers in the entire country. It's going
to be a very educational show. It's going to be
a very entertaining show. Like Cowboy was kind of downplaying

(01:45:53):
the competition between him, saying, now we're not going to
really do that much. And then all of a sudden
he rattled off four or five things that these guys
are going to be doing and women competing with each other.
It's pretty cool, it really is. It's a very cool
show put on by one of the most amazing knife
makers you'll ever meet. If you can shake Cowboys and
Manski's hands, you can honestly say that you have shaken

(01:46:15):
the hand of one of the entire nation, entire continent's
best custom knife makers. And don't forget, he's got that
store right there in Belleville, right there on Main Street
in Belleville. Phoenix Knives is the name of the company.
I've talked about them for a long time. P h E.
Ni x so Phoenix Knives year round. A lot of

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people out there yesterday and today and tomorrow, I'm sure
buying memorable things and learning. Actually, you can go out
there and like you said in the interview, it was
first come, first served yesterday and it will be every
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Excuse me, that's happened all morning, Texas Select event. That's
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Doug Bike Show on Sports Talk seven ninety. Thanks for listening.

(01:48:27):
Certainly do appreciate it. Okay, I got two things they
got to talk about in this segment. One is the
Mobile Jubilee and the other is the migration of a duck.
Kevin sent me an email earlier. I'm gonna start with
the mallard. Kevin sent me this email, and let me
let me get it back up here. There's a chart

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I'm looking for. I had it, and I put it
away somewhere. That goes away, that goes away, a lot
of stuff in my way. Okay, hold on, let me
put this down and see if I can. I know
I can. I'm not worried about that. I just got
to figure out where it is in this big giant
pile of stuff I've got. Bottom line is this mallard here.

(01:49:09):
It is right here from the Cohen Wildlife Lab. Kevin writes, Doug,
I came across this on the book of Faces the
other Facebook and thought it was pretty fascinating. The links
that duck traveled. The link they did it with voice
to text, I guarantee, says, I'll read it in English.

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The length that duck traveled in that amount of time
is amazing. What I found more amazing is where his
stopping point was. I know you said it. Over the years,
the flyways and migration patterns have changed, but this kind
of confirms that. Over the past couple of years, my
friends and I have been joking that the birds stop
in the Midwest and don't come down here like they

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used to. And then I see this graph, and oh
what a tale it tells. So this mallard started up
in the northwest territory of Canada, almost up to the
Arctic Circle, Okay, and it flies a route from northwest

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to southeast that basically takes it through Saskatchewan and North
Dakota and South Dakota and Iowa. And let me see
if it goes any farther. I think it maybe it would.
It's hard to see you on the chart and into

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into Missouri and even where I'm trying to reach down it, Yeah,
and into Illinois, actually goes through western Illinois, straight south
into Missouri. And then he stops right around Saint Louis
somewhere probably not downtown, not under the arches, but right
somewhere close to Saint Louis. And then when that duck

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led now by the way on the way down, let
me see, there's on the way down the green is
the spring migration. Yeah, okay, so on the way down
from north to south, that bird had four layovers before
it finally got to its stopping point on the way

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back the fall migration. Oh no, uh, excuse me, this
is I'm getting ahead of myself coming south from north
to south, two stops during the fall migration down on
the way back, four stops trying to get back to
where he'd come from. And this duck almost took the

(01:51:40):
exact same route back that it took coming down, and
it absolutely stopped well short of where we live. I mean,
it's two states short of where we live. That bird
finished the migration down and finished it back in missou

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started back in Missouri, never got down into Arkansas. It
doesn't look maybe if a teenage hold on. I can't
really make this thing any bigger or brighter than I
have it right now, so it's a little bit frustrating,
but yeah, it's fascinating. It might have made it into
the far northeast Arkansas, never came anywhere close to Texas

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or Louisiana. And the reason, just like I've talked about
a thousand times on this show, the reason is that
the people up that way are more and more accommodating
migrating waterfowl by keeping water open for them, by leaving
tons and tons of food for them, and the way

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they harvest their crops and whatnot. And any wild animal
is never gonna Every wild animal is never gonna go
any farther than it has to to find food and shelter.
And for a duck, shelter me means someplace wet where
they can sleep, where they can hear predators trying to

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get to them. If ducks slept on open ground, they'd
be absolutely annihilated by predators, very quiet predators. But they don't.
They sleep on water and down here especially, that keeps
the coyotes away from them. Eagle gonna pick one off
when the when the lights come up and when the

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eagle just soars over a roost pond somewhere, and all
the geese fly away except lunch the ones that are injured,
the ones that are ill, whatever whatever is keeping them
from being fully healthy, they're gonna get taken out by
birds of prey or by the other four legged predators too.

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But the bottom line is this duck, according to what's
the name of this place, hang On Cohen Wildlife Lab,
this mallard while they tracked it over the course of
a year. In one year, they tracked it for four
forty four hundred miles down and back on that migration
and almost on I call it. You know, I was joking.

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I think Evan I was telling talking about GPS Global
Positioning Service, and I think ducks have it too, and
it's the same acronym, but it's genetic positioning service. It's genetic.
They know exactly where they need to start, they know
exactly where they're going, and when they leave to come home,

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they just take the same route, just the same as
you and me going to the grocery store. They take
the same route every time, give or take a little bit.
They might get wind blown, or they might run into
encounter bad weather somewhere and have to park it for
a little while because they don't have forecasters telling them
where they're going and what they're doing. But they make

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that migration and they've stopped because they don't have to
go any farther to find what they need. Partly our
own fault back in the seventies and eighties, when we
were sharing with all these hunters from up north, how
we hunted snow geese down here because they didn't even
bother up there. When Texas goose hunting was really coming

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into its prime, people from up north didn't even bother
with snow geese. All of the ones that were migrating
down to us were stopping only on major reservoirs, and
only for a brief period before they continued their migration.
That duck covered twenty two hundred miles each way and

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only made six stops total over forty four hundred miles.
They can move it when they need to. They just
get up and fly and catch the right breeze and
gone they are. It's fascinating. Okay, the mobile Jubilee, Golly,
I don't want it. I'm gonna be just a little
late getting out of this segment. And the Mobile Jubilee

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is a phenomenon. And boy, as soon as I got
back to it on the website, I was reminded I
never did got to go participate in it. It's probably
because it was happening during baseball season and we couldn't
get out of there. But essentially, what it is is
a natural phenomenon I'm reading from Wikipedia that occurs sporadically

(01:56:26):
on the shores of Mobile Bay during a jubilee. Many
species of crabs and shrimp, as well as flounder and
eels and other fish will leave deeper waters and swarm
in tremendous concentrations in very high density, shallow coastal area

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of that bay where you can just walk out and
pick them up. Basically, you can just walk out there
with a dip net just scoop them on up only
one little part of the bay, and it really is
I remember people talking about it. I remember, Hey, you're
going to go to the jubilee, and if we could have,
Mike and I would have. I can assure you there's

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evidence that it has gone on all the way back
to the eighteen sixties and says the size and scope
and duration of the jubilee can vary greatly, sometimes a
fifteen mile stretch of coast, at other times it can
be limited to as little as five hundred feet. Smaller
jubilees occur more frequently the larger ones on and on

(01:57:35):
and on here. That'd be worth a road trip if
I knew it was happening, I might just jump in
an airplane and fly to Mobile and drive down there
and check it out. That'd be kind of cool to see.
Thank you for that call. That did when as soon
as you said Mobile Jubilee it triggered the memory. I
couldn't remember what it was, though I knew it existed,

(01:57:55):
but I just didn't know what it was. And now
I do, and that was really cool. All right, We
got to take the last break of the program. On
the way out, I'm going to tell you about Brass's
River Provisions Company again. That's my buddy Mike Mercado out
there in Rosenberg, one thousand Wilson Road in Rosenberg, and
he has been kindly providing us with gift baskets that

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are going to live on around here. As long as
he'll keep making them for us. I'll find games to
play with him, and we will enjoy the fruits of
his labors, so to speak. He makes delicious jams, jellies
and sauces out there, he and his crew, and they
are some of the most delicious things you'll ever put

(01:58:35):
in your mouth. They really are. He's got pairings for
everything from corn chips to filet mignon. He's got something
out there that he makes among the five or six
dozen different types of sauces and gems and jellousy offers.
Something is gonna pair very well with whatever it is.
It's on your plate tonight or this morning or in

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the middle of the day. Brassis River Provison Visions one thousand,
Wilson Row. They welcome visited it out there, Go tell
them hi. Brasisriverprovisions dot com is a website. They'll ship
it to your door if you can't get out to Rosenberg.
Brassis River Provisions be our provisions dot com as a website,
b our Provisions dot com. I feel like I need

(01:59:21):
to just kind of chill out. I ought to have
a pair of boots on, you know, just sitting on
a rocking chair overlooking a ranch with a little lake
down at the side where I'm thinking about maybe going
fishing later.

Speaker 3 (01:59:33):
On.

Speaker 1 (01:59:34):
Mmm, that's pretty good stuff. Who is that titling artists?

Speaker 4 (01:59:37):
Please, that's gonna be uh Ron Burnham.

Speaker 1 (01:59:45):
Okay, just say it with confidence. There you go. Yeah,
thank you. I appreciate that. That is good. That's that's
kind of chill music.

Speaker 4 (01:59:54):
Sometimes we need that wine down the show with.

Speaker 1 (01:59:57):
Yeah, happy trails to you. H spring break we're in
the middle. A lot of schools go back next week
and the other half are off next week. If thank
goodness that all schools don't coordinate their spring breaks in
the exact same week, that would just be chaos. I
think I have enjoyed the lighter traffic though. Have you

(02:00:19):
noticed the traffic been a little bit lighter, Evan.

Speaker 5 (02:00:22):
I mean when we come in the morning's usually traffics.
Well that's a good point, friend. What do you come
in about four point thirty normally during the week, Yeah,
about that time today. I want to too bad it
was coming in a little later today.

Speaker 1 (02:00:33):
Yeah, just you got to sleep in.

Speaker 4 (02:00:36):
Yeah, sleep in basically now, man.

Speaker 1 (02:00:38):
Yeah. I a long time ago when we changed my
hours on this show and moved over to KBM, because
it was, after all, a sports station and outdoor recreation.
I consider I'm fishing certainly competitive enough. It's hard to
do anything with hunting that way, and so I think
hunting is best left alone in that regard, except for

(02:01:01):
scoring antler points and things like that. Uh. But the
bottom line was, it was just so it was terribly different. Then.
I don't want to get into all that stuff. I
don't want to I don't want to go. I don't
want to go all back in the day on you.
That's just so messed up, so messed up. Seven one
three two one two five seven ninety Email me Dougpike

(02:01:22):
at iHeartMedia dot com. I've got this Jubilee stuff up
still in front of me, and it's just so fascinating.

Speaker 5 (02:01:28):
Uh.

Speaker 1 (02:01:29):
The inside the two meter contour along the eastern shore
well oxygenated. That's probably a key to it. This shallow
water extends several hundred meters offshore during Jubileese fish it
says fishes, I hate that word present there they're trapped
between the shore and the advancing water mass. Low and

(02:01:51):
dissolved oxygen water at the surface and very close to
the shore usually has enough to support them. So essentially
there's a hint of suffocation involved in why all of
these animals concentrate where they do. And fortunately, as we
talked about it in the past segment when I brought

(02:02:12):
it up, fortunately it doesn't last long. It doesn't last
long enough to kill them. At least it seems like,
so thank goodness for that, huh. At least it's not
a tropical storm or a hurricane messing up and tearing
up the bays, or a big freeze coming along to
kill fish in great numbers. I think that's one of

(02:02:33):
the single cruelest tricks that nature plays on saltwater fishermen,
is the the damage that an extreme freeze, and it's
not something that comes on gradually that kills fish. If
the water cools at a fairly slow pace, the fish

(02:02:53):
have time to react and get the heck out of dodge.
They'll leave those shallow flasks where they kind of like
to be in cooler weather, leave where the sun gets
in there and warms it up a little bit. They'll
leave that place if they're giving any warning, and go
to deeper shelter, if you will. But man, those ones

(02:03:14):
that just come rolling down and it's seventy five for
two weeks, and then you can see this thing coming
down the continent, and it rolls across our coast and
drops the temperatures down below freezing overnight. That's when the
fish get killed. That's when they get hammered the worst.
And I hate seeing that. Anywhere along the entire Gulf coast.

(02:03:37):
It doesn't happen in Florida. They don't get that cold. Typically.
Maybe once in a long time Florida will get something
like that, and even then only probably about halfway down
the state would be as far as they would probably
have to worry about freezes killing fish. But here every winter,
got about half a million saltwater fishermen in this agent

(02:04:00):
who collectively hold our breath just waiting for a winter
to be done. And I think we are done for
this year.

Speaker 4 (02:04:07):
What in fact.

Speaker 1 (02:04:08):
I'm I would? I would, I'm quite confident that we're
not gonna have to worry about that again this year,
but that we'll get through hurricane season, then we'll get through,
get back into another winter. We'll go. It's just gonna
click off so fast that the older I get, I think,
the faster it seems to go. And I know when
you're young, it just doesn't. Everything takes a long long time.

(02:04:30):
In just two weeks is a long time for younger people. Oh,
let me go get Barnett. I didn't even see that
up there, Dad, Come it, Barnett. What's up?

Speaker 8 (02:04:37):
Man?

Speaker 1 (02:04:38):
Got a couple of minutes left their yours.

Speaker 7 (02:04:40):
I'm telling you that. Do you believes occur on the
Texas coast?

Speaker 1 (02:04:44):
Ah? Okay? Where? Uh?

Speaker 12 (02:04:47):
Well, it can happen along the Gabston Coast. I've got
place down Bolivar Peninsula.

Speaker 1 (02:04:52):
Yeah, and you head it right, and their.

Speaker 12 (02:04:55):
Shrimp, crab, squid, little, all kinds of fish all between
the beach and the first sandbar.

Speaker 1 (02:05:02):
It's unbelievable. Wow, man, call me when that happens. I
want to come see it.

Speaker 12 (02:05:07):
I've never seen it in Texas, and it's nothing you
can predict, right, Yeah, it'll just happen. But you'll see
people out with their cast nets and maybe their sayings,
and while it's on, it's really something.

Speaker 1 (02:05:20):
Yeah, may while the sunshines.

Speaker 12 (02:05:21):
Huh, that's right. So I just want to let you
know it's not just mobile.

Speaker 1 (02:05:27):
Well now, at least I know I don't have to
get on a jet plane to go see it. That's good.

Speaker 4 (02:05:31):
I can't believe it.

Speaker 1 (02:05:32):
I've probably been told that before. Barnet, but I totally
forgot that it happens in Texas, and I'm glad you
let us know because I don't remember ever witnessing it,
and that just that speaks to the just the randomness
of these events.

Speaker 12 (02:05:47):
I guess, huh, well, yeah, it's almost always you should
have been here yesterday, you know. But but I've seen it,
and it's so weird because it has nothing to do
with water clarity, right, it's usually be still. Yeah, and
they all seem kind of goofy or a little adult.
But you know, it's not that they won't. You know,

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they won't. They've completely gone a comatose. But it's really
quite a side.

Speaker 1 (02:06:16):
Well, yeah, what I've read here and it explains it.
That's exactly the reaction they would have when they get
to a very low oxygen level in that water, and
so they're they're suffocating basically. That's interesting.

Speaker 12 (02:06:30):
There is something chemical going on, but not pollution wise.
It just has to do with oxygen action.

Speaker 1 (02:06:35):
Yeah, I think that's what it is. I think that's
what it is too, according well according to Wikipedia, and
you know how accurate that is.

Speaker 12 (02:06:43):
Yeah, Well, anyway, I just wanted to chip in and
that's good. It's not all mobile, but believe me, it's nothing.
They can be predicted. You just have to get lucky.

Speaker 1 (02:06:52):
That's awesome, that really is Yeah, thank you, man, I
appreciate the call. I learned something today, that's good, right, yes, sir,
thank you.

Speaker 12 (02:06:59):
Thanks.

Speaker 1 (02:07:00):
Yeah, that's two things I've learned. Actually, I learned about
those that at least that one Mallard forty four hundred
miles only six stops. Try to make a road trip
that fall without having to stop but six times? Good luck, man,
I'm an old man. I'd have to stop about every
hour and a half, No, maybe every hour. I can't
go very far. Ah. I wonder if those little stops

(02:07:24):
they make are at places they consider waterfowl BUCkies, you think, Evan,
that's probably about right. All right, we got to get
out of here. Dan Matthews coming up next?

Speaker 3 (02:07:36):
Is he?

Speaker 1 (02:07:36):
Where is he today?

Speaker 4 (02:07:37):
I don't think so today?

Speaker 1 (02:07:38):
Oh not today, Okay, maybe next week. Yeah, I know
what's going on.

Speaker 4 (02:07:42):
Don't you worry.

Speaker 1 (02:07:43):
I'll be back tomorrow morning. I know that, God willing,
and we'll rewrack it and talk more outdoors and golf.
It's been a really fun interesting show today. I hope
you felt the same way. I learned so much and
I appreciate all your input. As always, we'll talk again tomorrow.
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