State Shoreline Weather

On this episode, Doug talks about Baffin Bay, plays an interview with Robbie Grainger about trips that involve sporting goods, and much more.

Episode Transcript

Speaker 1 (00:00):
All right, here we go, Saturday morning starts.

Speaker 2 (00:02):
Now.

Speaker 1 (00:02):
Thank you all for joining me. I do appreciate it.
Wherever you are, wherever you're headed this morning, maybe you're
just sitting around the kitchen table having a cup of coffee,
whatever it is, thank you for being here. Oh, I
got to fix this little screen in here so I
can see where and when phone calls come in here.

(00:23):
There it is, That's what I'm looking for. Frankie. I'm
moving you to the other screen. So hold on. It's
going to be a fun ride. And there you go,
tooking just like one step down the bus line, one stop.
All right, pardon me, I am still. I've been talking
about what went on in the Hill country most of

(00:45):
the week, almost every day on fifty plus. I brought
it up, and I'm not going to ignore it this morning.
We're not going to dwell on it for very long.
And actually a little later in the program, we're gonna
have somebody on here who's who has been boots on
the ground for about a little more than a week now,
I believe, or right out a week, and a man
who I've known for many, many years. And I was

(01:08):
not at all surprised when I found out that he
had just packed a bag and taken off, So hopefully
once he gets his crews set up this morning. He
went up there all by himself, didn't know a soul
and you'll learn more about him a little later, didn't
know anybody, didn't know what they needed. He hitched his

(01:32):
trailer with a little skid steer on it to his
truck and just drove north. And when he got where
he was going, they liked so much what he was
doing up there that they have now assigned him several crews.
I talked to him just a little while ago and
he was about to go deal with I think it's
around seventy people he's going to be sending out this

(01:55):
morning to do, just very methodical, patient looking everywhere, turning
every stone, flipping every brush pile, just looking and looking
and looking for the remains of people who sadly lost
their lives in that flood, and some of them have
been very difficult to find. I heard an amazing story.

(02:18):
I'll let him tell it or not when he gets
on the air a little later, but right now he's
focused on doing what he's got to do up there
and making sure that all these crews get out to
their assigned areas and just very methodically, one step forward
in a time, a whole lot of digging, a whole
lot of brush clearing, a whole lot of moving big,

(02:38):
heavy objects. And fortunately, most of the state of Texas
and most of Louisiana and even a little bit of
Arkansas and Oklahoma have resources out there, and they're going
to find everybody they can. I don't know that they
will get everybody recovered, because there's there are increasing numbers

(03:01):
of stories on how difficult it's going to be. That
just that just if you hear a story, you'll realize
that it's going to be so much difficult to find
everybody under these circumstances. But we're just praying that they can.
Let's go talk to Brandon tip it off here. What's
going on, Brandon.

Speaker 3 (03:19):
Good morning, mister Pike. I just wanted to touch on
two hot topics. Yeah, first of all, we need to
first of all, pray for the families that have lost members,
whether they are rescued or found or whatever. But the
people that are first responders, they are seeing things that

(03:41):
no human beings should see.

Speaker 1 (03:43):
Yeah, yeah, it's pretty rough.

Speaker 3 (03:44):
And I mean it's it's and those things never go away.
And I'm speaking from a personal experience because I was
in a volunteer fire department for over twenty years, and
so there's there's things, and those memories never go away.
The only thing you can do is grab a hole

(04:05):
of a bible and get on your knees and pray.
And uh, you know, these Monday morning quarterbacks that want,
uh could get me started? Yeah, I don't, That's what
I say. I don't want to get you started. I mean,
I love the media, but they're so crucial, they're so

(04:27):
uh demeaning towards well could have this, could have that,
could have? You can't stop the hand of God.

Speaker 1 (04:34):
The way I've been putting this Brandon during the week
here is that these people who are spouting off, first
of all, they're just a little pilly attention grabbers. Okay,
they're gonna yap and yap and yap as long as
somebody's listening. But my recommendation to them is just shut
up until the final remains have been found of everybody

(04:56):
who's missing. And at that point then maybe we'll listen
to you. But until then, just just crawl under a hole,
crawl into a hole and sit there, you know.

Speaker 3 (05:05):
But my main thing is the responders that are having
to dig through and just see things that nobody should
be Just if if you want to open your mouth, fine,
get on your knees and open your wallet and give
it to the first responders or whoever, however God leads you.
But the second thing is what's going on with bath

(05:28):
and day. I can't believe what I'm hearing. I look,
and I listened to Cliff Web this morning on uh
you know, and that's the uh and and and it's
it's I can't believe that somebody would want to destroy
something so pristine as that.

Speaker 1 (05:48):
Follow the money, but you're right, yeah, find the money.
Good good luck, but go find the money if you can.
That's and I bought that. Those are two things that
are on top of my list as well this morning.

Speaker 3 (06:01):
And okay, this whole yeah, the whole bathroom so profound.
So it's just those two things just got my goat
this morning.

Speaker 1 (06:11):
That that Hill Country thing, when when people started using
it to they attempted to springboard themselves into notoriety politically,
a lot of them. And it came out blaming this
and blaming that, and what come and it's it's way
too early to determine what could have been done better.
Right now, the focus is and should be amongst rational

(06:36):
thinking people to do the best they can to recover
everybody who can be recovered. And then let's talk about
the rest of this. Yes, sir, you've already got now
I'm on the box now, man.

Speaker 3 (06:50):
Yeah, well, I mean these first responders, men and women. Sure, there's,
like I say, they're seeing things that they'll never forget.

Speaker 4 (07:00):
Don't never forget. It just doesn't go away.

Speaker 5 (07:02):
You know.

Speaker 1 (07:03):
The only thing I think that may bring peace to
some of those people is knowing that the horrific thing
they saw can can be then returned to the family
as Hey, we found your cousin, your daughter, your son,
your uncle, your aunt, your husband, your wife, whatever, We

(07:24):
found them, and they are in God's hands now, and
they the people, the family doesn't necessarily have to see
what those people saw. So hopefully there can be some
peace from having given someone closure. And that's yes, that's
a very important thing right now for all of these

(07:45):
people that I cannot imagine. My son's out of town
right now, okay, and he's at a baseball tournament, and
I'm I'm worried, sick about him just driving around in
the rain and in a place he's never driven before,
and I'm wor and about him constantly. I can't imagine
the suffering these people are having just not knowing where

(08:06):
that person is at all. I was all upset because
we had a bad phone connection last night and then
I had to kind of check myself, and you know what,
at least I'm talking to him, so that's yeah. Man,
Hey Brandon, thank you. I appreciate the call this morning.
You hang in there, buddy, and thanks for your servicing
that volunteer fire department. Man, I know that was.

Speaker 3 (08:23):
Oh and by the way, I wanted to I wanted
to tell you and this is uh East Bernard Volunteer
Fire Department that's having their fried chicken dinner this uh,
this Sunday. How good is the American Legion Hall in
East Binnards. So I just wanted to give a shout
out to those guys. And that's where I volunteered for
a while, and that's this the biggest They have a

(08:46):
fried chicken dinner and auction at the same time.

Speaker 1 (08:50):
Any of those chicken sir, any of those guys know
how to fried chicken.

Speaker 4 (08:56):
Oh do they ever? Do they ever? Yeah?

Speaker 3 (09:01):
The the dinner starts at eleven and auction will be
at twelve.

Speaker 1 (09:05):
Okay, now where is this again?

Speaker 3 (09:08):
American Legion and East?

Speaker 1 (09:10):
You know, anybody from down that way, anybody who's close
enough to want to come get some of that chicken?
They know where that is, don't I?

Speaker 3 (09:17):
Yes, sir, that's for sure.

Speaker 1 (09:19):
Is that today or tomorrow? Or next week?

Speaker 3 (09:21):
Tomorrow?

Speaker 1 (09:22):
Okay, tomorrow and start eating at eleven and then spending
your money at twelve.

Speaker 3 (09:27):
Yes, sir?

Speaker 1 (09:27):
All right, man, thank you Brandon, Yes, sir, thank you?
Oh man, do you know that was top of my list? Absolutely?
It was Captain Scott and all's up there right now.
I asked him if he could go on early, and
the answer was no, because he and the chief up there,
the main guy in charge, were staging the crew that

(09:52):
Scott has been assigned, that's now something like seventy people.
He went up there, he was telling me, he went
up there, didn't know a soul, didn't know where he
was going to stop, didn't know what he was going
to be doing, and just all of a sudden, here
he is less than a week later, and he's in
charge of I think it's four crews that total about

(10:13):
seventy people, and like I said, very methodically, just boots
on the ground walking through. When they come across a
big brush pile, they bring in heavier equipment to remove
the top layers of that stuff and get down farther
and farther.

Speaker 4 (10:30):
They have.

Speaker 1 (10:32):
Dogs up there searching for the who are trained to
sniff out human remains, and those dogs are doing an
outstanding job. He shared one story. I don't know if
we'll have time to share that one during our conversation,
but this is a time when you're thinking about where
you might want to go fishing today, or whether he

(10:54):
might want to go to the lake and do a
little water skin or a little tubing or wakeboarding, whatever
you plan on doing today. Just know that there are
dozens upon dozens of families in this state right now
and elsewhere who aren't gonna probably do much of anything
fun today because fund's not on their mind. They're still

(11:16):
wondering where a family member who got swept away. As
I just keep hearing more and more stories about this,
and it just it just rips my heart, it really
does to hear the stories of some of these people
who were on the phone on the cell phones with
loved ones when they were swept away, and they'll never

(11:38):
get that out of their heads. It's kind of like
what Brandon experienced working with the Volunteer Fire Department, and
I'm sure he saw some horrific things doing that. It's
just those are memories you can't There are two specific
memories in my head that I'll never get out that
have something to do with things like this, and I

(12:00):
A no, not nearly to the extent that Brandon or
Captain Scott knows because of his former profession. But yeah,
I can't imagine what they've got in their heads that
they can't get out, and I kind of agree with
Brandon on how to deal with it. All right, let's
go ahead and get this first break started up. I'm
gonna try and stay on time and make sure I've

(12:20):
got time for anybody who wants to call and share
what they're thinking. When we come back, I think I'm
gonna tee up a little bit of baff and Bay.
It's been on the minds of a lot of fishermen
for an entire week. And by the way, this is
as soon as we learned about it. We started talking
about it, A whole lot of stuff went on under
the table, under cover of darkness. It's turning out from

(12:43):
what I'm told, everybody's in a sitting until proven guilty.
But boy, there's if it's quacking like a duck, got
feathers like a duck, got a beak like a duck,
got web feet like a duck. It's starting to look
more and more like a duck. And I want to
hear what you guys think about it. I'll tell you
what I think about it when we get back golf

(13:03):
club up there. Take two ninety to Fry Road hangs south,
go south about three. I don't know. I've never put
it on the odometer because it clicks by so quickly,
two three miles whatever it is. You'll start seeing golf
course on your right. Then when you see golf course
on the left the east side of the road, put
on your west blinker and take a right into the gate,

(13:24):
and from that point forward you're probably gonna have a
pretty good time up there. As most of you know
by now, they took the south course private in January,
but the north course is still Actually the north course
is a little bit gentler on the looser swings amongst us,
if you will. So that was a good one to
keep public and daily fee, and there's also little membership

(13:47):
options for that one even as well. The South Course
has an option where not only do you get both
courses at black Horse, you also get black Hawk Country
Club and you also get Golf Club of Houston's two courses.
So it's kind of a five for one. Go up
there and ask for Chad Hicks or Craig Hick. Excuse me,
not Chad. Craig Hicks. He's the GM up there, and

(14:08):
he would be happy to explain that to you. Actually,
I think he's got a membership director who can do
that for you as well. If you see Craig, tell
him I said hello, though, and don't tell him I
called him Chad. Black Horse Golf Club dot com great
place for big events. They've got a great teaching staff
at the far end of the range. They've got all
kinds of options for you, all of which will ultimately
lead to a good fun time playing golf. Black Horse

(14:31):
Golf Club dot com. You can set a tea time
right now. Black Horse Golf Club dot Com. Seven twenty
on Sports Talk seven to ninety the Dougpike Show. Thank
you for listening. I really appreciate it. That's let's go
talk to guitar Dave. I'm sure he's got a couple
of things on his mind this morning. What's going on, Dave.

Speaker 6 (14:47):
Hey, I'm sitting here watching the dad and his son
just casting off the bank over here, and he's fixing
to go into high school and I'm kind of coaching
him up on to get into the program. And he said,
the high school here that he's going to does have
it program, you know where he can get into the
bass club man. Yeah, And I was, you know, I
was telling And then another young man come out here

(15:09):
and goes, hey, what do you think about up around
the damn? I said, well, hit close to the rocks, man,
and you know, you always want to hit the structure,
you know. But no on on Brandon and the American
Legion and and doing the things that you know. I'm
a son of the American Legion and I always appreciate
when we got something going on, you let us know.
When you let you know, and then you let everybody,

(15:30):
and you know that's that's a super great thing. And uh,
the the person that was singing the song right before me.
I can't remember his name, but he got discovered in
a bar cooking, cooking cafish and stuff.

Speaker 1 (15:42):
Yeah then yeah the bar.

Speaker 4 (15:46):
Yeah yeah.

Speaker 1 (15:48):
Oh well no, now Pat Green? Uh now Pat Green.

Speaker 3 (15:53):
Uh.

Speaker 6 (15:53):
I heard on the news and I looked on the
news on TV and I heard that his family poor
of his family members. Yeah, or done. And I've gone
pat for over thirty something years then and yeah, he
checked me on my when I when I messed my
arm up and I cut my tendons and everything, and
he signed my cast. And then a few months later
he uh put me in He got me in there

(16:15):
the cactus representation in front of a thousand other people and.

Speaker 1 (16:19):
Just me and him sitting there.

Speaker 4 (16:20):
And that's the kind of guy he is.

Speaker 6 (16:22):
And yeah when I heard, in fact, I was sitting
here where I'm at in the late Conrad right now
is almost as slick as got glass. It has a
barely a ripple over here. It's just beautiful. You should
have seen the moon going down all go oh wow, man,
it was well, you know, oh and we got the
house we signed on Wednesday, the mothers come to congratulations. Yeah,

(16:45):
well you know yeah, and uh, now the movers are
coming and everything. And my wife's got a friend of
hers that cleans for she's gonna be helping. But my
wife's gonna be pointing that. She's gonna be sitting and
pointing me because she has to have her knee replace
so anyway, she'll be sitting and pointing at me. And
then I'm gonna get all the time, you know what.

Speaker 1 (17:08):
Good call day, good call man. I'm yeah. Well, God
bless keep us, and God bless America.

Speaker 6 (17:14):
Hey, and God bless all the doctors that are taking
care of people that are out there.

Speaker 1 (17:19):
Yeah, that's there, all right, Yeah, I see they all right,
all right, Yeah, there are just so many people up
there helping, just volunteering their time. I told Scott this morning,
I wish I wish I had free time to give.
I really do. I'd be up there in a heartbeat.
I'd march around in my rubber boots and and see

(17:40):
what I can find, uh, and just help at least
clear it area. Yeah. Not everybody up there is gonna
find horrible things, and that at least is some some good.
They're gonna they're gonna methodically check everything and hopefully at
some point be at a point where there can be

(18:01):
talk about rebuilding and and just starting over. It's gonna
be tough. I want to go back to the baff
And Bay thing. We need to, okay, because this is
one of the one of the most unusual quick turns
of something so impactful on an environment that I've ever
seen out of almost out of nowhere. And curiously, I

(18:26):
don't know if the timing was deliberate, that it kind
of stayed on a back burner because of everything that's
going on in the hill country, or it's just coincidental,
but either way, it just kind of stinks to know
that there is a plan to dump millions upon millions

(18:47):
upon millions of gallons of desalinated water, which it's a
it's a byproduct of that. The desalinated water is fresh
water that's gonna be used by municipalities, is going to
be used wherever fresh water is needed down there in
that region. But what the byproduct is brine, and that

(19:10):
brine has not only salt in it, but whatever other
chemicals get leached out and sucked out of there, and
that concerns me for Baffin Bay. The people who are
peddling this claim say they're doing it to reduce the
salinity in Baffin Bay. And the question that's raised every

(19:32):
time somebody says that, everybody with a lick of sense
just says, why why do you want to change one
of the most pristine bay systems along the entire Gulf coast?
Why do you want to introduce tens of millions of
gallons of who knows what's going to end up being

(19:53):
in that brine into a system that really has no
true title exchange. The only thing that it moves water
in baff And Bay is the wind, and that's not
going to be enough to disperse that discharge so that
it doesn't adversely affect that bay. There's just no way,

(20:16):
there's just no way that I can see that that's
even possible. This system has zero, just about zero title flow.
That dish water is not going to be moved through
the bay. It's just gonna sit there and it's gonna
settle onto the bottom and cover up the natural bottom
that's been developed over thousands of years. This happened in

(20:41):
the darken night. Really apparently there either were permits granted
or permits about to be granted that nobody really knew about.
You know, I said early in the program. Follow the money. Somebody,
somebody will make money off this if it goes through.
I don't know who, and I don't know what their

(21:03):
motivation is. To potentially wreck a bay system before there's
an environmental assessment done. I think that would be the least.
The least that they could do is pause this so
that a legitimate, independent environmental assessment can be done to
find out just exactly what's going to happen to Baffin

(21:25):
Bay two years from now, five years from now, ten
years from now, Because if they don't know, then they
shouldn't be able to do anything in that bay. If
you drop, if you spill a drop of oil or
a drop of gasoline onto a boat ramp in some
places around here, you could be ticketed for that. But

(21:50):
ten fifteen, twenty thirty, one hundred million gallons of discharge
from a desalination plant, that's okay, Yeah, dump in the bay.
It'll be all right, No, it won't, it really won't.
The lights are on now, though, and the whole project
just stinks working up. It smells like a sack of
shrimp that's been sitting on the jetties for a couple

(22:11):
of days in August. Just all these millions of dollars,
which is what's left after desalination does what it does,
and they're going to dump it in from upstream too,
and that brine all kinds of chemicals not found right
now in baff And Bay, but they will be soon,
don't you worry. If ever, there was a project that

(22:33):
needed stopping right away to step back and talk about it,
this is the one. CCA issued a position statement on
this thing earlier in the week, and that's about as
quickly as I've seen CCA address anything in a very
long time, which tells me they went all hands on
deck to get in front of this as quickly as

(22:53):
they could. The scary part is that it'll take years,
really for us to determine just how much damage is
gonna be done by this project. Are we gonna lose
our baitfish? Are we gonna lose our speckled trout? Are
the crabs gonna all die? What about those big beautiful
rocks that are part and parcel to baff And Bay

(23:17):
and the good fishing in there. What's gonna happen to them?
I mean, they're just rocks, right, Nobody cares, I care,
I care? What's gonna happen to the water quality in there.
This the clarity of the water. It's messed up. It's
really messed up.

Speaker 4 (23:32):
What do you think?

Speaker 1 (23:32):
Let me know, and let your state politicians know by
the way that you're watching how they handle this, and
will adjust your voting accordingly in the next election. This
is something that both sides of the Aisle ought to
be up in arms over this. Both sides. This is
not a this is not a party line thing. This
is an environmental thing, and that's something that both sides

(23:57):
ought to be able to jump on board with and
shut it down until it can be checked out. It's crazy.
It truly is finally get rid of shrip farms and
all the other bad ideas that have threatened this amazing
bas system. And this pops up somebody else's plan to
do something that it looks kind of cute and sparkly

(24:17):
and shiny on the surface, but you peel back one
layer of this and it's just not a good plan
for Baffin Bay. Very simple alternative too, and CCA points
it out in its position statement on this. All they
gotta do is build a pipeline. You're gonna make this
big desalination plant and just dump all that water into
a natural water source that feeds baff And Bay. How

(24:40):
about you just build a pipeline that takes it a
couple of miles, three miles, I don't know how far
out in the Gulf of Mexico and just discharge it
out there where the entire Gulf of America can dilute
it and let the tide and the wind move it
all around and never know the difference. But to dump

(25:01):
that into baff And Bay, there's absolutely no reason to
threaten that resource, no reason to threaten that fishery. And
that's exactly what this project does. And I won't have
my mind changed until I see a third party environmental
assessment that tells me otherwise. It's just absolutely nuts, absolutely nuts.

(25:22):
Oh good heavens, I've talked my way all the way
to this break. Let's do this. Shooter's Corner Palmer Palmer
Highway at twenty ninth Street in Texas City is owned
by Jerry and JTK. They're the father and son I
talk about quite often around here. In fact, I've got
something I'm gonna talk about for Jerry when a little
bit later, when we get back, there's an event coming

(25:42):
up an NRA event that he wanted me to mention,
and I'll certainly be happy to do that for him,
probably when we get out of this break. Shooter's Corner,
though old school gun store, always has been just sitting
in the corner of a very nondescript, low key shopping
strip there in Texas City, twenty ninth Street, Like I said,
Palmer Highway. But when you walk in there, you'll realize

(26:04):
you're in a place where where all the conversation is
about the shooting sports, or about self defense, or about
something to do with guns and Ammo and CAMO and
optics and reloading supplies new and free owned guns. I've
been down there forty plus years. I think it's about
forty three forty five maybe now I'm not really sure.
Jerry and I are getting pretty old. But there's nothing's

(26:27):
changed really at Shooter's Corner except that they just continue
to be the best source I know to send somebody
who's got an issue with a gun, or send somebody
who's gotten a need for some specific boutique caliber Ammo
or probably a couple of cases of it in the
back at Shooter's Corner. One of the things I like

(26:48):
most about that place, aside from all the stories you'll hear.
And by the way, if you're in there and you
listen to somebody else's shooting or hunting story, they'll listen
to yours. I've never been in there. I've gone in
many times thinking five minutes i'll be in, i'll be out,
And every time I'm in there thirty minutes an hour
just talking and listening, making new friends. The Shooters cornertx

(27:10):
dot com. If you wear a badge for a living,
you get a discount, which is pretty dog one cool
d Shooters cornertx dot com seven thirty seven on Sports
Talk seven to ninety The Dougpike Show. Thank you for listening.
Certainly do appreciate it. Boy, I don't know where I
want to go from here, I really don't. I had
a couple of things I wanted to talk about and
I'm looking for I think I may have found it here.

(27:32):
Let me double check here, dumb Yes, July twenty fourth,
I believe is this is the event that Jerry told
me about yesterday. I'm pretty sure it is. Friends of
NRA are meeting up down in Galveson County on the
twenty fourth at five pm. There will be it's gonna

(27:53):
be at Charles T. Doyle Convention Center. Yeah, there's the
contact now I know I'm on the right page. His
contact Jerry TK. Okay, okay, TK, you're the guy. Uh
four O nine seven three nine three seven eight five.
I'm happy to do this for outdoors related events of
most any kind. And uh, I always try to let

(28:15):
everybody in my audience know when and where they can
go to support the events that in associations I support
and like being associated with. Friends of NRI has been
around a long time. Jerry's uh kind of the guy
who ramrods and spearheads most of these events down there,

(28:36):
and anytime I can help him out, I'm gonna help
him out. It's gonna cost you fifty bucks. If you're
all by yourself. You can get a table for ten,
make nine new friends if you want for five hundred bucks.
Check in at well, see where is it going to be?
I want to say, yeah, Friends of NRI dot org
slash events and then it should kind of get you. Actually,

(28:57):
I just did a search for NRA Texas city and
this one popped up. So just do NRA Galveston. You'll
see what I'm looking for or what I'm looking at,
same thing there, and I'll talk about that, Morris. We
get a little closer. We got a waste to go. Hey, Brandon,
what's going on with these astros? Man?

Speaker 7 (29:15):
I don't know, ye I know.

Speaker 1 (29:20):
I have a pretty good hunch, if you want to hear.
In my theory, we have so many people out now,
and for the first two or three people who went
out injured, we were able to find suitable replacement. Now,
because our farm system, our minor league system, is so depleted,

(29:40):
we're having to bring in people who really aren't quite ready.
And I've watched all these games lately. It's like, what
a four or five game losing streak now, and I'm
seeing people at the plate who who don't swing the
bat like been tria A players. There's one guy in particular,

(30:03):
I can't remember his name, and I wouldn't name him anyway,
because he's a major League baseball player and I'm not.
But he he just stands there and watches pitch after
pitch after pitch and then gets called out on a
third strike and goes and sits down. And that's We're
not gonna win games like that. We scored three runs
last night. That's not enough.

Speaker 2 (30:25):
No, last night, We're gonna we'll be at the game.

Speaker 1 (30:31):
Oh good, well, I'll wait to hear your report tomorrow.
Do you feel like I'm kind of closed? I just
think these guys just aren't quite ready there. They field, well,
their defense has been pretty good, but then the offense
has just kind of floundered of late last five games. Anyway,
they're just not putting up the runs they need to

(30:51):
win the games. And that I don't think would have
happened if we were at full speed with Alvarez and
with Myers and now out for who knows how long.
And these injuries just keep taking longer and longer to heal.
And I don't know why we're in the middle of
this run of bad luck, but I'd sure like to

(31:11):
see it end pretty quickly.

Speaker 4 (31:13):
Yeah.

Speaker 2 (31:13):
Did you hear he was hurt again?

Speaker 1 (31:16):
Who Myers?

Speaker 8 (31:17):
Uh?

Speaker 9 (31:18):
Yeah?

Speaker 2 (31:18):
Oh yeah, I'm coming to the field playing he again?

Speaker 1 (31:26):
Did he did he hurt something else? Or did you
just kind of retweak whatever was tweaked in his head?
Good heavens. Yeah, I don't know. I'm not going to
say that these athletes are getting soft, because I know
they're they probably want to be on the field and
are being held back from be I I can't imagine

(31:48):
Jake Myers having anything but a pretty serious issue and
not wanting to be on the field. He just he's
a player. He's a gamer. He wants to be out there,
and they're not letting him play because they don't want
to make anything worse. But I don't know. I just
go back to when I was playing Man, and if
you if you weren't bleeding and you didn't have a

(32:08):
bone exposed, you pretty much better put your helmet on
and grab your bat and get on out there.

Speaker 10 (32:14):
It was it was differently exactly, how's your weaken so far?

Speaker 1 (32:19):
You know, so far, so good. I got here pretty
early this morning, earlier than usual, but I actually managed
to get some work done, so that helped out a lot.
There's no no distractions over there on that side of
the office, and so I was.

Speaker 9 (32:31):
Able to go today.

Speaker 1 (32:33):
What's that?

Speaker 2 (32:35):
Did you listen today?

Speaker 5 (32:36):
Team?

Speaker 1 (32:36):
I did not?

Speaker 4 (32:37):
Yesterday?

Speaker 1 (32:38):
No, I was. I had some stuff, other stuff I
had to do yesterday afternoon.

Speaker 11 (32:43):
He was there.

Speaker 1 (32:46):
With I.

Speaker 8 (32:48):
Forget this.

Speaker 4 (32:49):
His name is oh Adam. Yeah, Clanton.

Speaker 7 (32:56):
Clinton was there. No, Clinton was not there.

Speaker 1 (33:04):
You talking about Channel Roam?

Speaker 4 (33:05):
I think?

Speaker 2 (33:08):
Yeah?

Speaker 1 (33:08):
Is that who it was?

Speaker 4 (33:10):
Yeah?

Speaker 1 (33:10):
Yeah, I don't know. I don't know him. I haven't
I have never shaken his hand.

Speaker 4 (33:14):
I don't believe I did not know him.

Speaker 1 (33:17):
He's solid though, what company? Yeah, he solid, he knows
his stuff.

Speaker 7 (33:23):
I watched it.

Speaker 1 (33:24):
Okay, all right, cards, Hey, I'm up against the break sadly, Brandon,
But are you going to You said you're going to
the game tonight tonight? Okay, man, just cross your fingers,
cross your fingers before you even leave the house, okay,
and keep them crossing until they win.

Speaker 10 (33:41):
Did he tell you who what head does today?

Speaker 9 (33:48):
Oh?

Speaker 1 (33:48):
I don't know what.

Speaker 4 (33:51):
Today?

Speaker 7 (33:51):
As Bell does his.

Speaker 4 (33:53):
Head?

Speaker 1 (33:54):
Oh wow? Okay, yeah, well good add that to your collection.
We'll try it, all right, buddy, I gotta run. Yeah,
thanks for the calling in. All right, audios, all right,
we go to tell you a little tree tree break here.
If your trees are well, you look at them, Hey,

(34:16):
that looks pretty good there, a little of this, little
of that, Maybe maybe trim a few suckers off the
big name branches and we'll be fine. You might think that,
but you might not be right, because if you're not
an arborist. You're not seeing what arborists see when they
look at a tree. And Champions Tree Preservation will send
an arborist to wherever you are within reason. They're not

(34:38):
gonna send you to Oklahoma, but they'll send a tree person,
a real arborist to your home right in this greater
Houston area. In Houston's a big area. They'll come see
you and let you know exactly what is or isn't
wrong with your trees. If you have no problem with
your trees, that's what they'll tell you, kind of like
a roof inspection. They come out and if the trees

(34:59):
look good, they're going to say you're in great shape.
You are hurricane season ready. If there's a problem, they'll
tell you what your trees need. Maybe it's just food,
maybe they're starving to death. Maybe their root systems, though
have been weakened by some of these weather extremes we've
had lately, and the moisture extremes. Now it softened up
the soil, get a little breeze, things start moving around

(35:20):
a little bit, and then a big blow comes and
all of a sudden, your trees laid out in the
front yard, hopefully not on your house, not on the fence,
not on the cars, But that could happen if your
trees aren't ready. If they aren't ready and there's a
real problem with the tree, they'll take it out for
you as well. They own all the equipment they could
need possibly to do whatever you need done to your

(35:42):
trees up to it, including replacement, because they have a
tree farm right over the fence from their main shop
area where they keep all their gear. Call them, get
a consultation. Make sure your trees are ready for hurricane season,
which we're already a month in two now two eight
one actually two months two eight one three two zero

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eighty two zero one two eight one three two zero
eight two zero one, or visit the website Championstree dot
com championstree dot com. All right, welcome back Doug Plike
Show on Sports Talk seven to ninety. Not everybody wants
to rule the world. And I think maybe those people
down in bath and who want to put that desalination

(36:25):
plan due just a little bit, I would like to
see them come off of this. We're doing this right away,
and we don't need more permits, we don't need much
of anything, So get out of our way step back
just long enough to get a legitimate assessment done. And
if the independent team of marine biologists comes back and says,

(36:50):
you know, not gonna hurt a thing. We think it's
gonna be just fine, maybe I could live with that.
I'd still be against it, but I would be less
against it if I had the assurance of people who
really know what they're looking at that this would not
impact Baffin Bay. Baffin Bay is where I had the

(37:10):
best speckled trout trip of my entire life a long
time ago. Me and Cliff web out in the middle
of nowhere in late January on a flat that was
probably a mile long and a half mile wide that
was just loaded with giant trout that couldn't wait to

(37:30):
eat a top water and we had our fun for
about two hours before the weather got really iffy and
we had to just get out of their risk not
make it at home. On a very wet, very chilly,
very foggy than rainy, than foggy than rainy day, we
got it all done and had still have tremendous memories

(37:52):
from that day. And I can't imagine two years, five years,
ten years from now calling Cliff and saying, man, remember
when we were in baff And Bay, how good it was,
Remember how good it was getting again back in twenty
twenty five before that plant opened up. Sure, wish they'd
have done an assessment on it, and we just have

(38:13):
to sit there and wish it had turned out differently.
And I don't want that. I don't want that for
any bay system on the Texas coast. I don't want
it for any water body that we use to recreate
and go fish. Texas has seven hundred and something miles.
I can't remember the exact number of shoreline of golf shoreline,

(38:38):
and many more miles if you wanted to start counting
every little nook and cranny of the bay systems. And
right now, most of that water, despite all the development
on the big city bays and some of the smaller
city bays, really is as more people move into Houston
and want to get away for the weekend and are

(38:59):
willing to dry, I have a little farther and a
little farther, and not just Houston too, San Antonio, Austin.
There's people all over the state who own beach homes
long or coast, and I don't begrudge them that I
wouldn't mind having a beach house myself, just not in
the cards for me right now. But what I do

(39:19):
mind is anything that looks like it's unnecessarily going to
potentially I don't want to use the word destroy because
that's pretty harsh, but even just negatively impact more than
half of a tenth of a quarter of a percent.

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That based system, especially Baffin, especially Baffin, that is, that's
been the holy grail of big trout fishing for most
of the Gulf Coast for as long as I can remember.
If you wanted to catch big trout, if you wanted
to if you were going to get to make one
cast and the rest of your life in hopes of

(40:03):
catching a ten pound trout, ninety percent, maybe ninety five percent,
I think even if you give them the East Coast
over there around all somewhere in Florida, up that East
coast between maybe between West Palm and Canaveral, there's some
big trout over there too. But if I had to

(40:24):
make one cast, and and if I caught a giant trout,
I would get every wish I'd ever wanted. Granted, I'd
be right in the middle of Baffin Bay, somewhere right
in the middle of Baffin Bay, and I would sling
that lure as far as I could sling it, and
I'd have a better shot there than anywhere else, probably

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in the United States of catching one big trout on
one cast. It's just that it's just that sacred to
trout fishermen, and the people behind this clearly have no
sensitivity toward the the meaning of that place for all
of us, and so they're just they're gonna keep trying,

(41:06):
They're gonna keep swinging, but they're they're gathering negative attention
at every turn, and at some point I'm hoping that
attention results in. It's like I'm talking about an environmental
assessment that they can't stop, and I don't think I
don't think the project would be allowed to continue if
that happens. There's just too much risk. There's just too

(41:29):
much risk involved. Seven one three two one two five
seven ninety Email me Dougpike at iHeartMedia dot com. Rudy
weighed in back, going back to the hill country for
just a second, and we've all been talking about this week.
Very simply, he just said they need flood warning sirens
along Texas rivers. I'm not opposed to that at all.

(41:53):
And the the idea that I floated for the last
four or five days is not just a siren that
goes off and says danger, but sirens that go off
with different either different tones or different numbers of blasts

(42:14):
per episode. So that say, for example, you're sitting in
your house and you're looking out at the river, and
the river looks nice, but it looks kind of rainy
up to the north or to the west, or the
east or wherever would feed that river, and you hear
one horn blast, and then ten seconds later, maybe one

(42:37):
horn blast and ten seconds later one so you get
the point. There's one blast that would mean, hey, there's
some weather brewing upstream. This kind of keep your eyes
on the sky. And then a few minutes later, or
maybe twenty minutes later or an hour later, you hear

(42:58):
two blasts, and then after the same interval, two more,
and then after the same interval two more. Now it's
it's ramped up to Okay, there's water coming down here.
We're not sure how much yet, but maybe pack yourself
a little go bag and put it by the front
door next to your car. Keys and then if you

(43:19):
heard a three blast sequence, get in your car and
drive uphill and get the heck out of there while
you still can. That would be the kind of a Okay,
it's really serious, we know it's going to be serious.
You got to get out of here now or three tones,
four tones, whatever it was, and do it in increments.

(43:42):
I wouldn't want for there to just be one horn
just because there was a dark cloud somewhere, because that
would put the put unnecessary fear on people if there's
no immediate threat, but as the threat becomes more more
certain and the impact more great potentially, then it's time

(44:07):
to get people on the road out of there. And
that's ultimately a good idea on pretty much any river
in the in any state where there's potential for rapid flooding.
The Brasses River isn't going to come up that fast.

(44:28):
Most of the rivers in Texas aren't going to come
up that fast. But the ones that roll through the
hill country over basically rock and clay and not soil
that can absorb some of that, they're the ones that
are going to flash flood, and that's the ones where
this effort would be needed. First, then we can think
about something to do for the other rivers and creeks

(44:49):
and whatnot. God, I hate what happened up there.

Speaker 12 (44:52):
Oh.

Speaker 1 (44:52):
I feel just so so sorry for those families, So
sorry for those families. Seven one three two one two
five seven ninety. Email me Pike at iHeartMedia dot com.
On a different note, I've still got room maybe two
or three more endorsements of mine. I've had people asking me,
by the way, about plumbers lately. I don't know why.

(45:14):
I don't know. I guess it's the fifty plus side
of me. I've had one email and then actually a
text message from somebody I know that, Hey, man, do
you recommend a plumber? And right now I don't. So
if you know somebody who is a plumber and who
you trust, get them to get in touch with me.
Maybe we can make them the official plumber of the

(45:37):
Doug Pike Show in fifty plus. Who knows or whatever
business you have that you think would it would benefit
you to connect with my audiences. I'd be happy to
talk to you. You don't have to talk about anybody else
either about this, which is really nice. You can just
work directly with me, and when you need something you
just call me. When you want to change something, you
call me, and as long as you pay your bills,

(45:59):
I won't call you back except to ask you what
I can say differently about your business. From time to time,
seasonally sometimes things change. Air and heating. We don't talk
a whole lot about heaters during the summertime. We don't
talk a lot about ac during the winter. But the
same company does both. I don't have one of those
right now either. All right, Belleville meat Mark and I
got them for sure. Smoke sausage samples available all day

(46:23):
every day in the store. A nice full pecan smoke
barbecued dinner or lunch served every day Monday through Sunday
ten to seven. They've got bulk pricing on all that
ground beef and the pecan smoke sausage. Homemade hot dogs,
got original and cheddar cheese, hamburger patties, stuff, pork tenders,
stuff pepper, stuff, mushrooms. You'll end you'll walk away from

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their stuffed if you eat one of their meals too.
They're pretty generous with their portions. Chuck Wagon patties that's
a half pound beef patty loaded with cheddar cheese and
seasoning and it's just absolutely delicious. Beef, jerky, turkey, jerky,
dry sausage, dry stick. I love drystick. Have you ever
if you ever want to send me something with a
bow wrapped around it. I don't care about cookies. I

(47:05):
love drystick. Everything for grabbing, go snacking is at Belleville
Meat Market, where they also process wild game around the
entire calendar. Just call them. If you're going to bring
in something this time of year, call them first and
let them know what you're planning to bring and they'll
let you know if that's going to be good or no.
Belleville Meat Market Highway thirty six, about fifteen minutes north

(47:27):
of Sealy, fifteen minutes south of Hempstead. Go check them out.
If you can't get there, though, by all means, get online.
They can ship pretty much anything short of half a
cow right to your house. Bellville MeetMarket dot Com is
the website Belleville MeetMarket dot com. AHI welcome back eight
three on Sports Talk seven ninety to Unpike Show. Thank
you for listening. I'll steer away from the hill country

(47:48):
for a little bit and catch a couple of little
notes I had working here yesterday. By the way I
was telling them Frankie. During the break. Yesterday, the official
Texas temperature map, at about I want to say it
was about three or four in the afternoon, showed one
of the widest gaps between statewide high and statewide low
that I've seen in a long time. Somewhere up in

(48:09):
North Texas yesterday around that time, it was seventy three degrees, okay,
which is a very comfortable temperature. I wish every round
of golf I could play this summer would be in
seventy three degree weather. That would be fantastic. At the
same time, El Passo not so fantastic. El Passo one
hundred and two degrees for a thirty nine degree variation

(48:36):
in temperature, which I thought was pretty impressive. I thought
that was really impressive. Actually, seven one three two one
two five seven ninety Email me Dougpike at iHeartMedia dot com.
Where's that other little short thing I wanted to talk about? Yeah, uh, well,
let me go talk to Let's go talk to David
up in Curveville. Let me get this clicker. Bam, David,
what's going on? Buddy?

Speaker 8 (48:58):
Hey, Doug? Actually in the note grades, but I wanted
to get your wheelhouse. A little bit about the situation
in Kerville, and it's it's it's a security issue which
should be handled in multiple layers. You've got no old
weather radio, which is probably the most under utilized, UH

(49:20):
service it's available. I would agree that the U and
recently here Doug, I have noticed where the National Weather
Service will use such words as historic and catastrophic, and
I have to believe on the hindsight it's always twenty twenty.
But if that's if everything had worked perfectly, the National

(49:42):
Weather Service, when in their alerts, would have used those
words and said this is going to be a catastrophic flood,
a very a very destructive flood. Then you go to
your second layer, which would be your emergency preparedness people
in the different counties who would if you at an alarm,
blast the alarm. UH. And then you've also gotten cell phones.

Speaker 4 (50:08):
UH.

Speaker 8 (50:08):
And this is something I know a little bit about
cell phones. You know, you've got your county based system
where you have to register, you have to give you
you know, go into a website and put your tomb
phone number in there, put your and that works. But
you know, if you're if you're a guest, if you're
a visitor to Kurville. You probably didn't do that, so
I know. But there is at the cell phone level,

(50:32):
or at the service provider level, there is emergency an
emergency response system that Olive Horizon, all of AT and T,
all of T and T T Mobile, they will send
out to every phone that is currently pinging their towers.
But Doug, I don't know if that is integrated well
enough yet. In other words, every just like in any

(50:54):
other security system, there's got to be integration between all
the different layers to make things happen. And it's a one.
If there's any anything good that comes out of this,
it'll be that all of these different layers of security
will become more integrated so that things will happen automatically.
But I do believe it starts with the National Weathers.

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Not blaming them, but I think if they had come
in and said this is going to be a we've
got a catastrophic flood, just like they do with hurricanes.
They do that with hurricanes when there's a you know,
a category four or five, that they will use those
words catastrophic, historic, and I think people would be a
little bit you know, if you've got a new weather

(51:35):
radio and there is a curve there is a National
Weather Service transmitter in Curveville. When I can send you
the link I can, I'll send you the link to
all the locations in Texas that have those transmitters if
they and they could be set to alert. And the
other thing that you can buy a pair of family
radio service walkie talkings that have that have a weather

(51:58):
band on them and the alert creature that will wake
you up in the middle of the night when something happened.
So we got to get integration between all these different layers.

Speaker 1 (52:07):
Yeah, this isn't the cure. Isn't going to happen overnight.
My my my concern is that with a Category three
or four hurricane coming, there's a lot of notice time.
We watch these things build and watch them build over
days and days. This is this storm, this rainfall happened

(52:31):
within hours, it would it would be as though nobody
could see the hurricane off the Galveston coast until the
eye was on the on the shoreline, and all of
a sudden, you go from a nice, nice evening to
one hundred and fifty mile an hour wind within an hour.
So it's I don't want to compare the flash flooding

(52:55):
up north to a hurricane. As far as preparedness goes,
I don't think they can. I don't think they can
know how bad it's going to be that quickly, do you.
I don't understand the geology of it enough, but.

Speaker 8 (53:09):
Yeah I do, Doug. I think the modeling is now
so good that they can and you know, as you know,
they can tell us where hurricanes are going to form
a day or two before they form. I think the
National Weather Service, and they were properly staffed, could have
said this is going to create a catastrophic flood and
relate that to the public. Now, you know, we get

(53:33):
into this issue with Doug in my opinion, where everybody's
afraid of being sued and nobody wants to cry welf. Sure,
but maybe sometimes there's situations where you have to say
you've got an err on the side of caution and say,
you know, yeah.

Speaker 1 (53:49):
You want to do you want to try to be
a hero, or you want to get your family out
of there. I had a very very similar issue. I
think it was with Ike. Maybe uh it was either
Ike or Harvey. It might have been Harvey. When Harvey
came through, I get a notification on my phone that
says you need to leave your neighborhood. I mean, it's
just it's coming right. This is a localized little notification.

(54:11):
Your neighborhood is about to get three to five feet
of water, okay, and that would be coming out of
Oyster Creek. And I mean I knew the creek was
coming up. I knew all of that. And rather than
be a hero, we got a two story house. We
can just march upstairs and ride it out. I said,
uh uh, pack it up, we're going. And we left there,

(54:34):
not knowing whether or not we were going to get
three to five feet of water in the house. And
when all was said and done, one of my neighbors,
who's kind of like the magiver of the neighborhood, he
hung out. He stayed there. He's got two sons at
the time who were in their late teens or early twenties,
and both of them just just big and strong like bulls.

(54:55):
So he was pretty well covered and he stayed. And
he actually had to and ended up going through my
house and into my garage and getting out one of
my kayaks that I used to have and taking it
out to help get a brother in law out of
another neighborhood that did flood. But we never got a
drop in our houses, not at all. And I wasn't
going to be the one who was sitting there waiting

(55:16):
and wondering if it actually did come two feet at
three feet into the house. I didn't want to see that.
I just got my family out of there. Man, I'm
not a hero.

Speaker 8 (55:25):
Yeah, just one quick comment, I'll let you go. I
think the fact that this happened on July, this four
US holiday, kind of helped illustrate the fact that there
was no linkage or integration between these different systems. Nobody
was paying attention at their level. Somebody broke the chain
at their level, and it should be a chain of

(55:46):
communication that happens automatically, ill regardless of the time of
day or the time of the year. Anyway, thank you
for taking my ueh.

Speaker 1 (55:53):
Thank you, David. I appreciate it, man, I really do.
All right, Yeah, let me click this. Thank you, Franky. Yeah,
he makes a very good point. I still think this
is gonna be the one that serves as the model
for the future. And just as I'm sure everybody's seeing
the story now, Camp Mystic had an evacuation plan that

(56:15):
was approved two days prior it was approved on or
on July second. July fourth comes all hell breaks loose
and and suddenly that doesn't seem like that was a
great a plan as they thought. So there's gonna be
a lot of reevaluation. There's gonna be a lot of

(56:36):
of committee meetings upon committee meetings, upon gatherings of law enforcement,
of first responders, of all of these people who I hate,
you know, it's it's just so cliche. We're gonna, you know,
we're gonna get some good out of this, but it's
it's true. We will get better prepared for something like

(56:58):
this because it is going to have and again hopefully
not for another one hundred and fifty two hundred years,
but when it does, it won't be as impactful, hopefully,
and we'll have a much better system in place to
get people out before something like this can happen. It's
just gut wrenching to me that we're going through this now.

(57:24):
Nobody anticipated this, and July fourth bad enough, four o'clock
in the morning. Really that the notion of just simple
tele or cell phone communication in many cases wouldn't be
enough because a lot of people turn their phones off
at night. They just turn them off. They put them
on the charger, turn off the ringer. They don't want

(57:46):
to be disturbed overnight. And I don't blame them, but man,
there's got to be some sort of and especially along
a river that's prone to flooding, it should be easy
enough to put up strategic sirens, just like World War
II air raid sirens, at regular intervals, so that no

(58:12):
normal hearing ear could miss them. If they ever are needed.
There would be no doubt that everybody would hear that,
even if there was a thunderstorm going on, and that
would mean you'd have to put them a little closer
together obviously. Well that's fine. I'd put one on every
rooftop if you have to, if that's what's gonna save lives.

(58:32):
All right, Lordy, I'm getting long winded again on this,
but it's just something that's really on my mind, and
I'm really hoping Captain Scott can get his crew distributed
and jump on the phone with us. I'm waiting on
a text or an email from him, or a text
anyway from him, or just a straight up phone call.
We'll take a little break here on the way out
I will tell you about American shooting centers out there

(58:55):
on West Timber Parkway between Katie and Highway six, where
I'm sure there probably is a lot of app activity
out there this morning, because what's coming quickly, if you
haven't noticed, is Duve season, which is only what is
today the twelfth. That would be about twenty days in
a month, eighteen days in a month away from September first.

(59:15):
It's hard to believe we're that close to it, but
we are, and it's gonna be on you before you
know it. And if you haven't taken a few shots,
if you hadn't shot a few rounds of trapper skied
or sporting clays or whatever before that day, and you
try to go out there and be a hero, you're
gonna miss a whole lot more does And you're gonna think,
kay Lee, they sure are flying faster than they were

(59:36):
last year. Well they're not. You're just not as good
a shot as you were last year. If that's presuming
you were a good shot. If you know straight up
that you're not a good shot, do the birds, do yourself,
do everybody in your group a favor, and take a
lesson or two out there it's really not hard to
get significantly better as a clay target shooter, so long

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All right, welcome by Doug Pike Show on Sports Talk
seven ninety. Thank you for listening this morning. We've been
we've been hanging on and talking a lot this morning
about what happened up there in the hill country. And

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as long as there's interest, I'm I'm gonna keep dealing
a little bit with it. And then but that in
baff and Bay the two biggest topics on outdoorsman's minds
right now. I know everybody is still hoping and just
holding out a little bit of hope for something good
to happen out of the Hill Country. We're getting pretty

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close to Yeah. I don't know. It's just going to
be a sad, sad thing to go through all around.
I've gotten a couple of emails recently, one from John
as we're talking about safety systems and whether or not
they'll work, and I send an email back to Mojo

(01:01:30):
a minute ago about how some of these systems, while
they might be better, and as John points out, it
doesn't take but one generation that lives through a full
most of a lifetime, let's say, but from being a
little kid at camp to going back up there with

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your family every summer and all of that stuff and
nothing goes wrong. This flood is not going to be
on top of mind for anybody anymore. The people who
live through this, the people who come out of this,
will never forget it. But a full generation later, if

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it doesn't happen again, they'll regain that sense of confidence,
that feeling of safety, even if they hear a siren
go off, and that could be pretty frightening. Mike Wade
in he said, there's a YouTube guy who is a
geologist and gives a very clear explanation of elevation changes

(01:02:35):
along the Guadaloupe River, including all the tributaries that feed
the river from hills and mountainous regions, his view showing
the original low pressure zone. It goes on here. There's
going to be all kinds of review available, and I think, honestly,

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I think that anything and everything that's produced, anything and
everything that's written and published is worthy of reading. It
merits observation, it merits scrutiny to figure out exactly anything
we could have done, anything that could have been done
to save some of those lives. And so it is

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going to take a long time. And that's one of
the things that I've heard more than one person say recently, Well,
somebody needs to do something right away. Nothing good. Seldom
does something really good get done right away. That's it.
I'll go back to CCA talking about baff and Bay.

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CCA has never been a knee jerk reaction organization. Coastal
Conservation Association did not do all the work it did
to help recover the redfish population by shooting from the hip.
They have committees that talk to committees that talk to
comm comitties about what to do about any situation regarding

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our coastal resources. It's a very patient and methodical process
that sometimes seems to take too long and people get
upset with them. But in the end, based on following
and reporting on and working with people who are involved
in CCA. Working over there for ten years as editor

(01:04:26):
of Tide magazine, I got to sit in on a
lot of meetings and I learned how they work, and
I learned that the ultimate goal is to is to
conserve our coastal resources, period and anything that stands in
the way of that is going to be scrutinized very closely.

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And anything that can encourage that and help that is
going to be is going to be welcomed into the
family of great things that this group has done. There
are a lot of conservation organizations out there, but none
that I know as closely as CCA and I would
hope that all of you would would see the benefit

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in supporting that group the way I do.

Speaker 4 (01:05:13):
That.

Speaker 1 (01:05:14):
Hey, they run a lot. It's a big ship that
they're running over there, but that big ship swings a
big stick when it comes to taking care of coastal resources.
And I got a hunch that their position statement on
this is just the first of a couple of things
that you'll see from them before this for the dust
settles around this thing seven one three two one two

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five seven ninety email me dougpick at iHeartMedia dot Com. Oh, Frank,
you should we go just lighter all around, because there
were a couple of things I had here, just little
things that I find that are kind of conversation starters
trying to find one. Let's see, I'll let you pick
one of these three titles, and I'll tell you what

(01:06:00):
I have written beyond that unacceptable French kiss could buy
or stay cool. Stay cool? All right, I'm gonna tell
you stay cool, and you're gonna bless your heart. You
got to answer a phone and maybe miss my Oh yeah, okay,
I'll get to Brian in just one second. So stay cool,
it says a math professor shared a hack on TikTok

(01:06:22):
to cool down a hot car. Now, most people in
this region already kind of know this, but I'll tell
the new people who've moved here. You open and close
First of all, you roll down your passenger side window, Okay.
Then you open and close your driver door four or
five times, and that will move enough air through that
car if it's been sitting on an asphalt parking lot

(01:06:44):
for an hour, to drop the temperature almost twenty degrees
in just eight ten seconds. Wow, it sucks that heat
out of there. So just remember that if you see
somebody in a parking lot opening and closing their door
back and forth, they're not crazy hot. They're fanning it out.
They're fanning it out.

Speaker 9 (01:07:02):
Man.

Speaker 1 (01:07:02):
That was a good pick right there. Let's go see
what Brian's got going Hey, Brian Trent Waye, what do
you got going on today?

Speaker 11 (01:07:09):
Man?

Speaker 7 (01:07:09):
I'm running my dog back to the trainer to get
her ready for dose season. But I did want to
weigh in a little bit on the CCA. Sure, okay,
what we're seeing down at bat the day, you know
one under aligne exactly with what you're saying. I don't
know if you caught the email that I sent over
to you yesterday, but I did give you a clip

(01:07:29):
to that CCA stationum as well if you had to
see with your listeners what you're not seeing and what
everybody needs to pay attention to.

Speaker 4 (01:07:37):
This is and this really comes back to.

Speaker 7 (01:07:39):
Following the money, not the CCA side, but who's proposing
this and who's going to be in charge of this
detail nation plan.

Speaker 1 (01:07:46):
Yeah, that's what I want to know.

Speaker 7 (01:07:48):
This is this isn't just city government or county government.
There's a private equity firm that's going to be a
part of this that literally is going to be a
small unelected group of individuals whose focuses on getting.

Speaker 4 (01:08:02):
Returned for investors.

Speaker 7 (01:08:04):
Yeah, and that's the reason why they're trying to be
the cheap version of pumping it back into bath and
Bay and not pumping off shore or pumping in the ground. Yeah,
this is all about money and money for investors, and
the public needs to be very very cautious about allowing
a small unelected group of individuals where money is their
focus and letting them be in charge of what can

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affect our public resource.

Speaker 1 (01:08:27):
Amen to that. That's good and that's good to know.
I wasn't aware of that.

Speaker 4 (01:08:31):
Yeah, just be aware, you know.

Speaker 7 (01:08:33):
I'm I'm also a member of TCA, of course, and
then I'm a member of the back Country Hunters and
Anglers Association or the guys that you know generated a
lot of calls that I told you to courn in
and cruise were for the big beautiful bill of not
allowing that Senator at Utah to put in the bill
to sell those three million papers.

Speaker 1 (01:08:51):
Yeah, public plans.

Speaker 4 (01:08:54):
And they withdrew it.

Speaker 7 (01:08:55):
But that guy hasn't given up. But backcountry hunters and
anglers and this isn't a pitch is very much focused
on this situation because Baffin Bay is a resource for us,
right that we all absolutely love.

Speaker 4 (01:09:07):
That is a fishery.

Speaker 7 (01:09:08):
There's nothing else like it in Texas. It should not
be made a science project. And I'm very concerned about
anything that could change anything about bath and Bay with
a lot of people have done a lot of work
to protect it.

Speaker 1 (01:09:21):
It's not broken, it doesn't need fixing. That was they're
a pitch that I heard though. Yeah, we're gonna we're
gonna help the salinity of baff And Bay. No, baff
And Bay has been hyper saline since time began. Leave
it alone.

Speaker 4 (01:09:33):
Yep.

Speaker 7 (01:09:35):
Very very scary, very s for what politicians are around us,
and they try to be very sneaky about this. That
is your next idea that you'll need to be paid
attention to. If somebody sneaks something in they're trying to
hide it.

Speaker 1 (01:09:49):
Yeah, absolutely hiding. Yeah, just shed a little daylight on it.
We'll get them, Brian, Thank you, Deck, Thank you Man.
I'll see you all right. John, do me a favor. Hey,
I want to get through this break and you will
be first up when we get back, I promise you.
So stick around and I'll get right to you on
the way out. Timber Creek Golf Club if m twenty

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three p fifty one down there and friends, what about
three miles west of the golf freeway. Very easy to find,
twenty seven holes once you get through the get through
the gate and get on that first tea box. You
don't have to play all twenty seven. Usually eighteen is
enough for any day. But if you want to co
play them all, I'm sure you can be accommodated down
there if you're that tough. Excellent food, excellent beverages to

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get you through a little swing fluid if you need
it on the course or at the turn. Great teaching
staff too, with JJ Woods and his Timber Creek Golf
Club Academy right there adjacent to the range. Good place
to hold a nice event too, Just good people all around.
Known the GM down there for the better part of
twenty years. I bet Timber Creek Golf Club dot com

(01:10:53):
is the website. Go make yourself a tea time right
now Timbercreekgolf Club dot com. I'm gonna tell you again
about Berry Hill Restaurant out in sugar Land. I went
up there picked up dinner last night for my wife
and me. Once again. I'm back to Barry Hill. Anytime
she says, oh, whatever you want, I usually end up
over there. And I actually tried the fish tacos again.

(01:11:15):
I had had them since we had them catered here.
To the office about gosh, it's been too long. I
need to talk to the office manager about getting another
lunch in here. They do great catering all over town,
by the way, for any sized group. Really, they can
handle whatever you can ask them for. They can handle
for you. Out at the restaurant itself in sugar Land
at Sugar Creek Boulevard in fifty nine, what you're gonna

(01:11:37):
find is a very comfortable, relaxed atmosphere. The left side
inside is mostly tables and booths. There are a couple
of private rooms towards the back. There's a sports bar
to the right, and even outdoor dining. If it's not
one hundred degrees. It's pretty nice out there yesterday evening.
As a matter of fact, when I was there. Berry
Hill's been around a long time and a better part

(01:11:58):
of thirty years. I think that's when my wife and
I moved to sugar Land and we found berry Hill
shortly thereafter. I wish I could remember who recommended it
to me, like I'm recommending it to you, because I'd
like to thank them for doing that great place, great
family run business. The fish tacos are to die for.
I also like the seafood inchilata. My wife likes the

(01:12:18):
chicken tacos, on and on and on. Everything in there
is cooked up deliciously. It's a great mix of text
mecs favorites with a berry Hill twist if you will,
And of course save room for dessert. That trace lessius
is to die for. It got a chocolate and a
vandilla version. Just get some of both and share it

(01:12:38):
with the table. Berryhillsugarland dot com is the website. Go
check it out. Berryhillsugarland dot com. Hello, welcome back to
Doug Bike Show on Sports Tux seven ninety. I'm all
about sunshine. I am man for sure. Seven on three
two one two five seven ninety. John has been waiting
patiently for oh so long, Hey John, what's up?

Speaker 10 (01:13:00):
Man? Oh on the humidity?

Speaker 1 (01:13:03):
But yeah, you know, oh well July.

Speaker 10 (01:13:06):
Yeah, this thing has this baff and Bay thing has
I'm just listening to first.

Speaker 1 (01:13:11):
I've heard about it.

Speaker 4 (01:13:12):
Ask me baff a little bit.

Speaker 10 (01:13:13):
Of it, because normally you can't put a culvert under
an FM road without an environmental statements and you know,
we're talking federal waters here because it's navigable, right, and
usually there are many many thresholds. Once you get into that,

(01:13:34):
you would think, so are we one positive there isn't
something that's already been done, studied approved. I mean, I'm
not doubt of you. But that's how it's hard to
get there. Just you know, like that, you know what
I'm saying.

Speaker 1 (01:13:52):
I have not seen any evidence of any such report
or heard any evidence of any such report. If it exists,
I'd love to see it, because that would you know,
if they have some report sitting around there and some
stamp of approval from somebody, then let's take a look
at that. But I haven't heard anything to indicate that

(01:14:13):
that's there.

Speaker 10 (01:14:13):
I really haven't, Yeah, because remember the you know, you
couldn't they couldn't do the underpassing or something because of
some spider.

Speaker 1 (01:14:20):
Oh yeah, San Antonio issue about eight ten years ago.
That's exactly what it was. One spider, not even a
mating pair, just one spider, and they shut down the
whole thing.

Speaker 10 (01:14:31):
But in defense of that, you know, everybody's got We're
concerned about baff And Bay, somebody's concerned about the spider,
somebody else is concerned about whatever. So everybody should get
their turn, so to speak. And it's got to be
all balanced into the public good. And I'm not saying
they should be dumping this water into baff And Bay.
But on the other side of things, just like you

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and I weren't concerned about the spider, there's an awful
lot of people that don't even know what a speckled
trout is is, right, or Baffin Bay or the specialty
of those those right, you know, So it's there's got
to be a balance struck. But but the fact that
there's no environmental study done when you're touching, you know,
even dipping your toe in the right general waters, something

(01:15:18):
in't adding up.

Speaker 4 (01:15:20):
You know.

Speaker 1 (01:15:20):
Yeah, I couldn't agree with you more. And that's why
everybody is demanding a little more clarity and a little
more transparency on this thing, because apparently a lot of
a lot of it. And this is this is what
I'm hearing. I can't one hundred percent back this up,
but what I'm hearing from numerous sources is that a
lot of this was done without any scrutiny and without

(01:15:43):
gathering the proper permits. And if the permits are there,
I'd love to see them and I'll eat my words,
but I haven't seen anything yet that says that's the case.

Speaker 10 (01:15:53):
Yeah, And if CCA is already on it, then then
they know.

Speaker 1 (01:15:58):
Yeah.

Speaker 10 (01:15:59):
Likely I suspect whether or not there's this stuff's been done.

Speaker 1 (01:16:02):
Yeah, I've got the position statement sitting right here in
front of me. It just it goes through exactly what
they intend to do and what the environmental concerns are
and what CCA recommendations are. And see above all, CCA
is guided by our commitment to sustainable coastal fisheries, which
has shaped our position on previous desalination discharge permits. In

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addition to the Heart Research Institutes recommendations, CCA Texas encourages
Oh something didn't print here, But the bottom line is
what they are in favor of in which I think
where it says here where deep well injection is not feasible,
which probably is here they would support instead offshore discharge,

(01:16:46):
which is what I talked about a little while ago.
You you have your intake and your outflow a couple
of miles off shore, where the EBB and flow of
the whole Gulf of America can can whetle that stuff
down and dilute it so that it doesn't impact this
whole thing.

Speaker 10 (01:17:06):
Reminds me of an old saying. We used to I
used to work in a chemical plant. Yeah, delution is
the solution to pollution.

Speaker 1 (01:17:13):
Yeah, that's what they're pitching. But the problem is that what.

Speaker 10 (01:17:17):
The that makes more sense, of course than dumping it
straight into the bay.

Speaker 1 (01:17:20):
Yeah, and that that would be I could. I could
live with that. It's way out there, and it's it's
not that different from Gulf of Mexico water. The salination
isn't But the problem is that it's that way different
than baff and Bay. Baff and Bays hypersaline has been
for a thousand years. And to come in and say

(01:17:41):
that it's going to somehow improve the bay, to jump
all this Brian in there it just it makes zero
sense to me.

Speaker 10 (01:17:50):
Yeah, well, of course their position is going to say
we're we're doing good and because they want to do
the project, you know there of.

Speaker 1 (01:17:58):
Course, Well yeah they did. That was just a thought there.
I appreciate it.

Speaker 10 (01:18:01):
Something something that makes sense. And it may have been
one of those smoke filled rooms in the dark night
over a holiday weekend kind of thing. So anyway, i'd
be interesting to follow.

Speaker 1 (01:18:14):
Yeah, I'll be following it closely. And the more I know,
the more I'll let on. Thank you. I appreciate it, John,
Thanks see men. Yeah, all this talk about Baffin Bay
and we kind of ignored the rest of the whole
state shoreline h where trout fishing allthough. This past week
was a little bit wonky. There were some winds that
unfavorable winds that hurt, especially the middle coast, and a

(01:18:38):
lot of people who went out hoping to catch a
bunch of fish didn't catch a bunch of fish. All
the way down to Corpus, same kind of stuff's going
on down there. Some days you get them, some days
you don't. But more good days have been around lately,
and the reason for that is unquestionably now this change

(01:18:58):
that we've made to the fish limit, which I think
has been That was I'm sure that, and I know
because I saw all the emails and heard it from
a lot of people when this was first proposed, going
to three fish fifteen to twenty man, A lot of people,
especially some of the guides, who tended to post pictures
of their big catches every day and lay out dead

(01:19:21):
fish on the deck of the boat or at the
cleaning table. No place where a speckled trout looks kind
of worse than dead on a cleaning table to me.
And I'm not begrudging anybody who's gonna eat fish. If
you want to keep your limit of fish to eat,
that's fine with me. I have no problem with that
speckl trout tastes really really good. If you've got an
extra one and you want to cook it up and

(01:19:43):
invite me to dinner, I'll probably show up. But the
issue is is that we needed to slow down the
harvest because we have so many more people in the
base system now we have so much better equipment to
find these fish, and kicking and screaming, everybody kind of

(01:20:03):
jumped on board, and it's very clear to me, at
least that it's working, and it's working very well. Oh
my lord, I'm two minutes late. Sorry about that. Let
me tell you all about Champions Tree Preservation again. If
you missed it the first hour, I'm gonna tell you again.
Then i'm gonna tell you again in the third hour
as well. This is important. It's hurricane season, and if

(01:20:25):
we catch one of those things, God forbid, your trees
are gonna have to make it through that blow from
start to finish, whatever that is, whatever magnitude that storm is.
And if your trees have been damaged or sickened by
the temperature extremes we've had lately, the hot and cold,

(01:20:45):
the wet and dry, all of that stuff, you need
to make sure that they're put back into shape somehow
before anything happens. That might mean some pruning. It might
mean a good deep root feeding. It might mean a
little of anything up to an including removal of a
tree that just frankly to the arborist's eyes, perhaps not

(01:21:06):
two years. It might look okay to you, but they
can tell you exactly what tells them that a particular
tree has to come out, And the good news is
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(01:21:28):
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All right, welcome back Doug Flight Show on Sports Talk
seven to ninety. By the way, I've got an interview

(01:22:09):
that I'm going to play in the nine o'clock hour
after we do a little we'll do a little golf
talk early and after that. I had a conversation yesterday
on fifty plus with Robbie Granger, the man who is
the brains behind exciting outdoors. I don't know if you've
heard about them or not, but Robbie primarily takes clients

(01:22:30):
and customers into Argentina to go dove hunting, to go
big game hunting, to go fishing. It's a fantastic trip.
I've made it myself with him years ago, I as
a reporter, actually on magazine assignment for a women's big

(01:22:50):
game hunt, which was a ton of fun. And one
of the little side deals we did was about I
don't know about an afternoon of dove hunting. Actually probably
only shot for maybe an hour and a half because
the little twenty gauge that I had that fit me
best out of their arsenal didn't fit me that well.
He's he's since moved to a different lodge down there,

(01:23:14):
a better facility all around, he tells me, and with
a better gun selection. But down there I was getting
bit on the cheek by every shot I took, and
I still managed to go through I think a little
more than half a case of shells in about I
don't know, an hour, hour and fifteen minutes. It was
some It was pretty fun. But anyway, we had a
conversation yesterday about how just kind of the dos and

(01:23:38):
don'ts of international sporting travel. If you want to go
over to see Big Ben in London, or you want
to go to the Loo or the Eiffel Tower or
the Parthenon or any other historic site in Europe, just fine.
Just use your traditional travel agent and they'll be able
to help you pretty well. But when you start talking

(01:23:59):
about taking the guns an AMMO, you start talking about
carrying fishing rods and other sports equipment like that ski, snowboards, whatever,
hiking gear, it's a little bit different thing, especially the
gun thing. And we talked about that, and I want
to share that with this audience, and then I may
follow up with him actually in the weeks to come

(01:24:20):
with another round of that kind of a conversation. It's
a whole different animal when you're talking about taking firearms too,
and then returning them back here. One of the things
I did even think about when we talked yesterday, and
it's covered in the interview, is that when you come
back in to the country, you're gonna have to prove

(01:24:41):
that the gun you're bringing back in is your gun. Now,
usually it's not that big a deal most but what
he pointed out was what if you're carrying the gun
that your father gave you twenty years ago when you
were a little kid, your first deer rifle or whatever,
your first shotgun, and now you're suddenly bringing that into

(01:25:01):
the country when you received it as a gift a
long time ago, and there was no paperwork exchange. It
was just a Christmas present or a Birthday present. Uh,
you gotta watch all that, all right, We gotta take
a little break here at the top. El Cubano cigars
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You're gonna get a better deal on your cigars too,
because you're dealing directly with the manufacturer and not some
middle person. Who popped up a smoking lounge somewhere and

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decided to make a few bucks apiece on their cigars.
You can go there in the Texas City Lounge. There's
another one in League City. The League City one's kind
of like an old, little, tiny, little piece of Havana.
It's a Cuban style smoking lounge. We'd go in there
and there'd be maybe a game on the TV. Maybe,

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I don't know. The next card game to break out
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Or just sit back and enjoy a good smoke and
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Start there, you'll find a little bit more about Manny.
He's a really cool dude to I like talking to him.
Every time I hear from him. I learned something Elkubano
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(01:27:12):
let's go take a look. Let me get my laptop
tuned up to where I want to be here. I
got to go all the way back to the top
of this and where did it go? Stand by? Where
did There's one page that I need to get to.
And because I've I've gone down from my two big
monitors over on the desk to this one little one.

(01:27:33):
I'm having a little bit of trouble bringing it up here.
I think this might be it. Nope, I'm just gonna
have to go fresh and go cold turkey. To the
official leader board from the Scottish Open. I believe the
actual title of it is the Genesis Scottish Open. And
over there we are. Well, we're well into the third round,

(01:27:58):
the Saturday round. What's got to get this full leaderboard
to pop up for me so I can see this
man's first name again. The last name is got her Up,
which I think is kind of cool. There is Chris
got her Up. I couldn't think of it to save
my soul. He is at eleven under par and we'll
go out a little later this afternoon, as will all

(01:28:19):
the leaders. There is play underway. In fact, there are
a couple of people who have already completed their third
rounds of play. The rest are in various stages of completion.
At present, the top of the leaderboard remains pretty much
the same. There's nobody who's made a leap high enough
to get them even into the let's see where the
first actual change from somebody who's finished the third round

(01:28:41):
is all the way down at a tie for thirty
first position. So the leaders are still the same as
they were when they went to sleep last night. Chris
got her up at eleven, Harry Hall at nine, Matt Fitzpatrick,
Marco Panne, and Ludwig aberg Oberg. Excuse me with the
little dot over the end, all at eight under par.

(01:29:02):
I'll give you the sevens because they're all certainly in
contention at this point. Oh wait, it may take a while,
I wanna. I'm gonna need a big deep breath for
this one. All at seven under par, Tom Kim, Christopher Wrighting,
Wyndham Clark, Alejandro Delray, Kevin You, Matti Schmidt, Nick Taylor,
Keith Mitchell, Rory McElroy, Jake Knapp and Sep Straka all

(01:29:27):
managing to shoot two rounds that totaled seven under par
in the last two days. And I'm sure all of
them given it all they've got. Actually check that Tom
Kim is three under today through as he makes the turn,
and as is Christopher Wright, and both of them moving
themselves up from four under part yesterday. There are a

(01:29:49):
lot of juggling going on on the leaderboard, and still,
like I said, about fifteen twenty guys who have yet
to tee it up on the first hole seven one
three two one two five seven ninety me Doug Pike
at iHeartMedia dot Com. I had an email I got
just a little while ago that referred I believe it
might have been from Mark over in Georgia. Some of

(01:30:09):
the Permian Basin uh salt water pushes into those wells
up there has resulted in what they're calling I think
they called them ghost wells or phantom wells or something
like that, where some of the water, the saltwater that's
been pushed in for the fracking process is bubbling up

(01:30:30):
in some cases mile two miles away from where the
original fracking took place and that's a concern up in
that part of the country. My focus is on the bay.

Speaker 4 (01:30:40):
Though.

Speaker 1 (01:30:41):
My focus is on baff and Bay and on not
messing it up. It is not broken, it does not
need fixing. And I'm hoping that at some point, and
I've got some more stuff that I need to read.
I have a couple of things or that callers have
sent me by email or not callers, but listeners have
sent me by email this morning. Then I'll get to

(01:31:01):
after the show and I'll dive into it as deeply
as I can. Seven one three two one two five
seven ninety Email me Dougpike at iHeartMedia dot com. I'm
gonna give you three more things to choose from Frankie. Oh,
you know what, I'm gonna go ahead and pick one
of myself this time, because this was This is an

(01:31:22):
outdoors situation and one that I can't believe anybody I
know or anybody who listens to this program would attempt
to do something this not so bright fifty nine year
old man in California tried to do. His objective was
to help an injured bear, and he actually called authorities

(01:31:44):
and said, hey, this bear got hit by a car
and I was trying to help it over a concrete barrier,
one of those lane divider things you see on all
kind of roads that are being worked on a little
bit as black bear gets hit, and later he confessed
that it was he who hit the bear. That's why

(01:32:04):
he felt so guilty. So he jumps out of the car.
He goes over and tries to help the bear over
the barricade so it could go scuttle off into the
woods again. And it latched onto his arm and chomped
down pretty hard, and so now he needed a little help.
A little pro tip for those of you who are

(01:32:25):
brand new to the outdoors, brand new to Texas, don't
try to help wild animals, especially if they are injured.
They don't know that you're there to help. Even if
you wore a Red Cross badge on your chest, they
wouldn't understand what that is. Even if you're trained in
CPR in emergency medicine, they don't know that. They just

(01:32:49):
think you're going to try to hurt them worse, and
they're going to defend themselves and you're gonna get torn
up just like that guy did. Not a smart move.
Not a smart move. If you find a fawn at
the side of the road. Leave it alone. The mother
is not going to be far away. The mother will

(01:33:09):
find that fawn ninety nine times out of one hundred,
and they will be reunited and they'll go on about
their merry business. If you do find an animal that
you think is wounded or needs some help, there are
hotlines all over this state that lead directly to people
who are trained in wildlife rehab, who are trained in

(01:33:30):
solving these problems. So go there, but don't jump out
and try to lift a black bear for a concrete bear.
What was this guy thinking? What was this guy thinking? Man,
it's just not a really good idea. Ah. A new
study found the best states for sports lovers. It says

(01:33:50):
here in Ohio, New York, and Illinois. I don't think
Texas ought to be in there. We love it, you know,
it was last, Frankie. This I found interesting, and then
I'll go to break the last on the list for that.
These are little conversation starters if you're in a bunch
of people and they all get quiet. Today, Hawaii rank last,
But you know why, It's because they're in such a

(01:34:10):
bad time zone for live sports. Monday night football starts
in the middle of the afternoon over there in Hawaii.
Same with evening baseball games. A one pm start astro
start here, A one pm astro start here starts there
at eight o'clock in the morning. So unless you're into

(01:34:31):
all that, there's no reason really to do it. All right, Look,
let's take this break here and we're gonna just everybody
keep taking deep breaths. I'm still hoping I can sort
this out with George, and I'm hoping he'll send me
that email so I can get a better idea, uh,
just reading it for myself, and maybe we can have
another calm conversation about it at another time. I would

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welcome back to the Bike Show on Sports Talk seven ninety.
Thank you for listening. I certainly do appreciate it. Me
let's go and talk to Chris. See what's on his mind.
What's up, Chris, Hey, Doug.

Speaker 2 (01:38:24):
Unfortunately, we had another golf course closure this past weekend.

Speaker 1 (01:38:29):
Oh no, I did not know that which one. Cyprus Lakes,
Cypress Lakes is going. That's a shame. Yeah, gummy, yep. Yeah,
that's a good turn.

Speaker 2 (01:38:40):
And last what fifteen years, there's probably been ten to
nine to ten courses I've closed.

Speaker 1 (01:38:49):
That's that's yeah, that's I'm not terribly surprised. Back when
I was writing at the paper about golf at one point,
at the peak of it all, when rounds were taking
five and a half or six hours hours and you
could hardly get a tea time anywhere. I think it
was one of the last one or two golf guides,
annual golf guides that I did. We had a total

(01:39:11):
of one hundred and thirty seven golf courses in the
Greater Houston area. We were so overbuilt, so overbuilt, and
it's still probably I bet it's still probably one hundred
and ten hundred and fifteen. Most of them made it.
The ones for the most part, the ones that shut
down shortly after that probably should have been shut down

(01:39:34):
before that. There were a couple of real goat ranches
that had to.

Speaker 4 (01:39:37):
Be in Kenya.

Speaker 2 (01:39:39):
But yeah, good ones.

Speaker 1 (01:39:40):
Yeah, Yeah, Old Orchard, well they that was owned by
a group of guys who were invested until somebody came
along and offered them enough money. And that's it's a
business decision. They were going out one way or the other,
you know.

Speaker 2 (01:39:57):
Yeah, then Clay Road and guests are and the one
in Seeley and sorry nine Yeah.

Speaker 1 (01:40:05):
Yeah, it's it's just kind of what the market will bear,
you know. The yeah, Bear Creek. It's it's such an
expensive venture golf courses and it takes so much maintenance
to keep them in any kind of shape that people
would actually come out and pay money to play there.
And that's I've got a good friend, a very good

(01:40:26):
friend of mine, owns three. I think he's down to three.
He was at one point the owner of four golf courses,
and he may be at three right now, or maybe
even two. But the bottom line is he's got to
make a living off of them. And if they're not
making a living, it's hard to just leave them open
and watch the condition deteriorate and watch the players go

(01:40:49):
somewhere else. It's unfortunate.

Speaker 4 (01:40:53):
And there.

Speaker 1 (01:40:53):
You know, we still have a lot of golf and
a lot of golfers in this town, don't get me wrong,
and we have some really good options. But as a
lot of those older courses have gone out, a couple
of new ones have come in, and there are some
good ones around it, a little bit more high priced
in a lot of in a lot of ways, and
with good reason. They want to maintain a level of

(01:41:16):
a standard that will continue to attract people, and that
that requires a little bit more investment. So it's just
a natural thing.

Speaker 4 (01:41:24):
You know.

Speaker 1 (01:41:24):
We've got a lot of stores that close and then
other stores open in their places. Well, right now, if
you close a big store. It's going to be a
gym in twenty four hours. Hugually, but yeah, I understand.
I hate to lose a place that I've played a
lot of times. And I've played Cyprus Lakes quite a
few times.

Speaker 2 (01:41:41):
Really, yeah, I have too quite a few.

Speaker 1 (01:41:43):
Yeah. Man, that's a good one. All right, Yeah, thank you.
I appreciate the call. All right, let me duck that down.
By the way, I'm going to play that interview with
Robbie Granger at nine thirty ish. I want to go
talk to Greg Burlocker though, right now. See how his
tournament went. How to go?

Speaker 9 (01:41:58):
Man, Man, it was fantastic and I can't thank you enough.

Speaker 4 (01:42:03):
Doug. We we had.

Speaker 9 (01:42:05):
Twenty eight kiddos and they were all hooping and hollering
and had a wonderful time. My hands have this wonderful
smell of corn yeap corn soaked in vanilla with with
the brim and worm dirt.

Speaker 1 (01:42:25):
Son.

Speaker 4 (01:42:28):
It was so much fun.

Speaker 9 (01:42:29):
And I gotta I gotta give a shout to one
of your listeners, Robert, who was very kind. He offered
to buy some cane poles. Wow, that's so nice. He
went out and bought twenty five cane poles. For this,
and we got together and I can't tell him thank you.
And I was up till eleven o'clock rigging.

Speaker 4 (01:42:53):
And and it was it was just so much fun.

Speaker 9 (01:42:56):
And then we went back to church, we had breakfast,
and you know, you and I have talked about this,
and you've talked about it multiple times. One of the
dads said, you know, I had no earthly idea that
you could have this much fun. I was always thinking
we had to have complicated rods and reels and nopence

(01:43:17):
and and they said, we're going to go do this.
We're going to go buy our own cane poles and
do this again. And I'm like, I knew it was
a success at that point.

Speaker 1 (01:43:26):
Yeah, the complication, the complication of a rod and reel,
and especially with younger kids, it just makes it frustrating
for him. It makes it awkward for him. But any
little kid can just hold a cane pole in his
hands and watch a little cork go down and that's
just lifting the same.

Speaker 4 (01:43:44):
Yeah.

Speaker 9 (01:43:45):
I went went, you know, the dad to dad and
some of the kids hadn't fished and and so it
was like, Okay, wait for the thing and try to
keep the ty line and the old jerk just lift
up and.

Speaker 4 (01:43:56):
Yeah, it was so much fun.

Speaker 9 (01:43:58):
And I just wanted to tell you thank you for
all your support and my peasure for Robert's support. So, man,
if any of the listeners are out there and you
want to do something like that, I can't tell you
how excited these kids were to go catch some fish.
And there's plenty of places around Houston where you could

(01:44:18):
do something like this.

Speaker 1 (01:44:19):
It's very rewarding as the adult to as the person
who knows how to fish and somebody like you, somebody
like me who's caught one or two fish in our lifetimes,
to watch the expressions on these kids' faces when you
know and surely they're gonna miss a lot of bites
and everyone they miss just makes it all the better

(01:44:39):
when they finally lift up and dad, gummt, look you there,
there's a fish hanging off this line, and you can
see the smiles come across their faces. It's a sense
of accomplishment for them that's very easy to attain. You
don't have to teach them how to cast. It's great
for a little bit older, but I started fishing at three.
I don't know when you started, but I was at
three years old when I started.

Speaker 9 (01:45:01):
It was well, I had two older brothers, so no
tell them exactly. It was about that same time. And
I fell off the pier when I was about that age,
and uh dad, Dad caught me by the boot going
over the side. He lost a pair of sunglasses. So yeah,
that's a family story. I've heard, I don't know how
many times, but uh yeah, my first reel was a

(01:45:25):
it was a little silver service reel before they made
zip COEs and things like that.

Speaker 4 (01:45:31):
So uh man, but uh uh it.

Speaker 9 (01:45:35):
Just uh the guys that I'm leaving out blakemore the stallings.
He sent me like twenty packages of hooks, you know,
the long, long, long hooks, and we went in with
little bitty tiny things and that way we could catch
even the small horsesh So it was, it was. It

(01:45:56):
was a great event. So I really do appreciate, uh,
all of the support.

Speaker 1 (01:46:00):
Does my pleasure. Yeah, thanks to Robert too. Good to
hear from you. Greg, Thank you man.

Speaker 8 (01:46:05):
Alrighty, have a great day, thank you too.

Speaker 1 (01:46:07):
All right, let me catch Glenn here real quick before
we get to the break, and then I'll tee up
that Robbie Granger interview. What's going on Glenn.

Speaker 4 (01:46:16):
Hey, Doug, how's it going good?

Speaker 5 (01:46:18):
I wanna tell you a A couple of weeks ago,
I went down to Corpus CHRISTI to uh fish on
a goot a fishing guy, a buddy of mine, his
nephew had McCain shallow water experience. We fish in baff
In Vain and good to moderate a great time. Goodt
caught the biggest spect of my life, twenty five inches.

Speaker 1 (01:46:40):
Yes, sir, time in my.

Speaker 4 (01:46:41):
Life, first time in my life I've ever heard.

Speaker 5 (01:46:44):
Somebody tell me I'm sorry, you gotta put that one
back so well without a.

Speaker 4 (01:46:51):
Slot, right right?

Speaker 1 (01:46:53):
Yeah? Sorry, your fish is too big.

Speaker 4 (01:46:57):
It's too big. Hey, that's the reason I called A
few years back.

Speaker 5 (01:47:03):
Buddy, another buddy of mine, used to go waitfishing in
Christmas Bay. And we don't know, we don't know, you know,
we haven't been. Like I said, it's probably been eight years,
six eight years.

Speaker 12 (01:47:13):
Since you fish.

Speaker 5 (01:47:15):
Is that still a good place to weightfish? Because we're
trying to figure out good places to wait fish. Maybe
later this month, early next month.

Speaker 1 (01:47:23):
I haven't fished out Christmas in the last several years myself,
so I don't have firsthand information. Hopefully, maybe somebody in
this autist is gonna let us know. And one of
the reasons, honestly, did I shied away from there for
quite some time, is because for a while, and I'm
sure these people have grown up and found better things

(01:47:43):
to do, but for a while, most any decent looking
automobile you parked down there and then waded away from
was getting broken into. And that was it was a
safety concern, and you know, I just I didn't want
my car busted up. And now do you know one
guy who actually he had a beach house down there,

(01:48:03):
and he ended up buying just this old, beat up, rusty,
torn up looking truck just looked like it was on
its last legs from the time he started it up.
Every morning he had the engine work done on it,
so it ran well, but it looked like a piece
of junk. And he kept it at his beach house
and he deliberately used that to go park wherever he
wanted to go wadefishing, because he'd leave the windows down. Yeah,

(01:48:26):
there's just nothing in there that anybody would want. And
so you know, that was the way he combatd that.
But yeah, just be careful and maybe call a couple
of local businesses or a bait shop or two down there,
and see if that's changed. Hopefully they've kind of rained
that in somehow. I don't know how you'd do it,
but I used to love fishing down there.

Speaker 4 (01:48:47):
Though.

Speaker 1 (01:48:47):
You know you're not gonna light them up. You're not
gonna catch a hundred fish, but you'll catch fish. I
would believe that. I can't see it changing that much.
Thanks for the call, man, I appreciate it.

Speaker 4 (01:48:57):
Thanks.

Speaker 1 (01:48:57):
Yeah, yeah, hang with it, and we'll see if we
can get somebody else to kind of add on. All right,
you bet? All right, let's take this break here real
quick so I can get back and tell you all
about Well, we'll let Robbie Granger and I talk about
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Welcome back nine thirty five on Sports Talk seven to
ninety The Dougpike Show. Thank you for listening this morning.
Will shift gear now to my interview from yesterday with
Robbie Granger, the guy who owns Exciting out doors and
sends people pretty much all over the world, but primarily

(01:51:04):
down to Argentina for some really cool hunting fishing. Take
it away, Freggie.

Speaker 13 (01:51:09):
Yes, So set the stage a little bit for this interview.
You ask him, essentially, what about trips that involve sporting goods?

Speaker 1 (01:51:18):
How do we handle that? What goes into that logistically?

Speaker 13 (01:51:21):
And of course he helps people with that, and so
that's the question that you ask him, And so that
sets the stage for the eclip I'm about to play
in just a second.

Speaker 4 (01:51:32):
Late it.

Speaker 11 (01:51:33):
There's lots of people who will provide a service once
you get there, but there's so much involved prior to
your arrival from a logistics standpoint, and how do you
get those guns or those there, those those.

Speaker 1 (01:51:46):
Rog and reels.

Speaker 11 (01:51:48):
You really need to rely on the people you're going
with if they're unwilling or you sense that they're not
capable of pulling that off. You might consider looking somewhere
else with who your travel partner is. And that's exactly
what we are as a travel partner.

Speaker 1 (01:52:07):
Sure you don't.

Speaker 11 (01:52:10):
I mean, in our particular case, we're asking a lot
of most people to come sixty five hundred seven thousand
miles to a country that most of them have not
been before, and that can be daunting. And you know,
we've all cleared customs and we walk out the door
and you go, okay, I'm here.

Speaker 1 (01:52:27):
What next?

Speaker 11 (01:52:28):
Well that what next needs to be taken care of
way in advance, and you know, there's there's We've been
doing this for a number of years.

Speaker 1 (01:52:39):
We haven't lost anybody yet.

Speaker 11 (01:52:40):
We've had a few people go off and get lost
on their own and and and we don't find them.

Speaker 1 (01:52:45):
But we'd rather not face that challenge. So really look
for do you so little tags into their underwear or
something of where you can go find them. Robbie, I
might want to think about it now.

Speaker 11 (01:52:55):
Well, now, now, with all this technology, I guess we
could just say put you put your phone on, fine
find me or whatever. But whatever it's called, I'm old school.
I don't know how to do it half of that
half of that stuff.

Speaker 1 (01:53:07):
It really does make sense if I've never done something,
or maybe even just done it once, it makes sense
to hand the reins to somebody who's done it a
thousand times. You know what customs wants on both ends.
You know how it all works from where you're standing
now to where you're going to be.

Speaker 4 (01:53:21):
Right.

Speaker 1 (01:53:21):
So, with that said, what is the biggest mistake international
sporting travelers make in your opinion?

Speaker 11 (01:53:28):
I think what we run into and it's it's it's
it's a little bit backwards thinking. Entering guns into say,
where we primarily do our business in Argentina is a
little bit of paperwork which we will assist you with,
and two hundred and fifty dollars per gun. You clear

(01:53:49):
that gun like it's a piece of baggage once you
get to one of Sara's. It's it's it's not super lengthy.
It might an hour, might add an hour to uh
getting through customs if you have firearms right now where
people really don't realize bringing those guns back is not
just a simple matter of putting them on a plane

(01:54:11):
and gathering your bags back at your home destination. You
need to and it's a it's a it's a one
page form. It's called a customs declaration. Right, you need
to declare anything of substantial value, whatever that means. It's
kind of subjective, but certainly guns. If you're traveling with

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a bunch of jewelry, which we don't recommend, but if
you feel like.

Speaker 1 (01:54:35):
You need to, you need to.

Speaker 11 (01:54:37):
You need to tell us customs before you leave. Hey,
this is mine and I'm bringing it back so they
don't think that you've made a purchase out of the
country or trying to skate on duties or taxes or
what have you. And that that happens more not as

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much now, but it still does happen. And a lot
of people say, look, if you're bringing your firearms, great,
I mean I'd actually rather you bring yours and shoot mine.
That way, you're not wearing mine out, so to speak.
But you need to be prepared to bring them home.
And that's you can get that customs separation for him.
And when you're leaving the country, you'll go by the

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local the customs office in the airport and they'll stamp
it or sign off on it, and then you're pretty
much good to go.

Speaker 1 (01:55:29):
As a quick rule, Robbie, what's the What are the
consequences of not having the right documents or not securing
everything properly.

Speaker 11 (01:55:36):
I think in the extreme, they could I guess, I
guess they could confiscate that. I've never heard of that,
but you might. But you might be put in a
position where you have to prove ownership. And to prove ownership,
you know, if that gun is something that your dad
gave you thirty years ago, how do you do that?

Speaker 1 (01:55:54):
I mean, do you have to find his will? That's
a very good point. Yeah, I mean it's I mean.

Speaker 11 (01:55:59):
You will be required probably to prove most of the time,
they're gonna you're gonna be with a group of people.
Everybody's gonna be under the same circumstance, and if and
if you have somebody with half a operating brain, they'll say, Okay,
this guy just screwed up. You know, you can pass,
but you never know who you're going to be in
front of at that time. So it's best just to

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be prepared for that for that.

Speaker 1 (01:56:23):
Robbie Granger from Exciting Outdoors dot Com back to the
personal cyber real quick, what are some of the things
that absolutely need to be in a carry on bag
just in case collection and stuff that might be hard
to get. If you show up in BA at ten
o'clock at night and your check luggage is on a
carousel in Newark.

Speaker 11 (01:56:40):
Well, certainly you know anybody who takes regular medications that
should be in a carry on bag.

Speaker 1 (01:56:46):
My recommendation is take.

Speaker 11 (01:56:49):
A picture with your phone of the of the picture
page of your passport any of any event, and do
not ever put your passport has to be on your person,
right and and but people lose things, and if you
do lose that passport, you're not completely out of luck.
If you have a picture, you can go to the

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local consulate and and and they'll issue a issue of
a temporary passport in most cases, unless you're on some list.
If you're on a list, if you're on a list,
you didn't get on that plot.

Speaker 1 (01:57:24):
To get Now you're not getting out of the country.
If you're on that list, right, all right, that ends
that I hope you learned something there. And if you didn't,
that means you've probably already done some international travel with
your guns or your rods or whatever. I want to
get with him at one point, and I can almost

(01:57:45):
do this one myself though, talk about traveling with fishing rods,
because I've had some very good experiences and I've had
some very bad ones, and assisted by listeners. Years ago,
my experiences with rod cases got better when twice I
was given some stickers by listeners to put on my

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rod cases so that they would maybe be handled a
little more gently. I'll tell you about that. It's kind
of funny really, when I get back from this break
on the way out, I'm going to tell you about
Phoenix Knives. This is Cowboys Zamanski, his wife Elena. They're
out there with the journeyman who work under Cowboy building
knives every single day. And even if you and your

(01:58:29):
family or you and your friends want to go out there,
you can build your own knife with a little help
from them right there. It's kind of on a first come,
first served basis. Now that they're in that bigger facility
they have, and one of those people in there who
works there can take you and your group back into
where it all happens and you can make your own

(01:58:50):
knife right then and there. They're on Main Street right
there in the little town of Belleville, right down the
street from the meat market. Really in that big new
space where they can conduct seminars. They can they have
more than a thousand knives for sale. And then, of
course if you want to get something truly custom, it
may take a couple of months. So even if you're

(01:59:11):
thinking now a little bit like I wonder if somebody
would like this beautiful custom knife I have in my
mind for them for Christmas time. If you want it
built by cowboy, you might want to swing by out
there and see if you can't get on get on
board and get that order place so that you have
it well before you need it. Phoenix Knives dot com

(01:59:33):
is the website every kind of knife you can imagine,
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Knives dot com by Loud nine on Sports Talk seven
to ninety The Doug plug Pike Show. Thank you for listening.
I'm round and third and sliding in. Captain Scott Knull's

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on the phone up there in the hill country where
he has been for right at a week. Huscott, Yes, sir,
I got here Saturday and.

Speaker 4 (02:00:04):
You came up.

Speaker 1 (02:00:05):
You showed up all by yourself with a trailer of
little skits here and now you're you're leading crews who
are doing some really uh hard work, aren't.

Speaker 4 (02:00:15):
You, Yes, sir, uh yeah. I showed up. It was
just me.

Speaker 12 (02:00:19):
I don't even know anybody here at the first time
I'd ever been in this town, a center point, and
I showed up, said put me to word, and by god.

Speaker 4 (02:00:25):
They did.

Speaker 1 (02:00:27):
Careful what you wish for.

Speaker 12 (02:00:29):
I looked around. They said, grab you a crew. I said,
you got chainsaws. I looked at these guys. I picked
four guys and me and them went off into the.

Speaker 4 (02:00:36):
Woods and we started cutting stuff wow, moving and searching
for bodies.

Speaker 12 (02:00:41):
And then more people joined me, and I picked up
more guys, and I watched some other crews that were
kind of breaking up, not real organized, and I grabbed
their best people and I just started building my own crew.

Speaker 4 (02:00:54):
And then they sit.

Speaker 12 (02:00:55):
They saw what I did in that area, so they
sent me to a tougher area and I would grab
more people and I got more assets.

Speaker 4 (02:01:02):
I got more skid steers while we cleared that.

Speaker 12 (02:01:05):
Then they sent me to a new one and we
cleared that in one day. When they said that it
was going to take two and now they've got me.
I have roughly one hundred and ten people. Oh good heavens,
I got eight or nine pieces of equipment, and I'm
working three locations over stretched out over several miles talking
out right this minute, I'm driving between the two of them.

Speaker 1 (02:01:27):
So Scott talk about how slowly you have to move
through all that debris to make sure that you do
the work that needs to be done.

Speaker 12 (02:01:38):
If you can't lay eyes on it, you can't imagine
what it looks like. They're gigantic balls of everything that
you could think of, houses, cars, all kind of organic material,
you know, trees and wells and a telephone wire, bob wire,
everything that you can imagine is balled into one.

Speaker 4 (02:02:01):
So you're you have to.

Speaker 12 (02:02:04):
Be delicate and you're looking for a very delicate body
inside of a pile of that stuff that has been
here for a week and is not real well put
together at this point. And you have to be very
careful as an operator on the equipment not to get
too aggressive. It gets monotonous and you start, you know,

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moving too fast, and you kind of forget.

Speaker 4 (02:02:27):
And we had a guy do it in the last
couple of days.

Speaker 12 (02:02:30):
And we had a little incident where he messed up
with a body inside of a inside of a ball,
and so we have to as operators, we have to
make ourselves slow down. And then if you have a
smell which everything down here, it just smells like death.
Doug Bottles smells like because there's everything is in here,

(02:02:53):
beer cows, porcupines, porcupines apparently cannot swim. Sounds like seven porcupines.
I've seen more dead porcupines than I've ever seen live ones.

Speaker 1 (02:03:06):
That's saying something.

Speaker 4 (02:03:07):
It's crazy.

Speaker 12 (02:03:08):
So anyway, it's it is very delicate work at that point,
and a lot of times I'll grab with several of
my my workers, my chainsaw guys, and I got chainsaw guys,
I got pullers, and wow, I'll get those guys in there,
and we'll just start pulling apart these piles, and I
just call it dismantling. The trees all have what we

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call nests where debris is thirty forty feet up in
these trees. And I've got I've got excavators that have
been assigned to me, and I've got them going down
the river knocking the nests out of the trees because
somebody can be caught up inside the tree way up.
I'm talking about vehicle sized balls of stuff thirty forty
ft up tree. Good lord, the whole thing is I mean,

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it's a war zone, dude, it is. It's something else.
Most every area has been at least checked once. Uh
the way, I'm telling.

Speaker 4 (02:04:03):
My guys when I get I get new people every.

Speaker 12 (02:04:05):
Day, so I have to have my little speech. Yeah,
this is like Easter egg hunting. You had your grandma
who threw all the east eggs out in the middle
of the yard, and those got found by everybody, and
then you had crazy ant Helen or whoever that hit
all the Easter eggs that didn't get found until next year.
We're looking for those Easter eggs now, we're looking for
the ones that that you're you know, that got hidden hard. Yeah,

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we're looking for it. Sounds bad.

Speaker 4 (02:04:32):
We're looking for parching pieces. Yeah, we're not looking for
the whole bodies.

Speaker 12 (02:04:36):
We still have over from last I talked to them
at the headquarters.

Speaker 4 (02:04:40):
We still have over one hundred and forty missing.

Speaker 12 (02:04:43):
We've recovered just over one hundred, so we have recovered
roughly half.

Speaker 1 (02:04:48):
Scott. What motivated you to go up there all by yourself,
just just to leave the house, I'm sure Camille just
encouraged you. But what what motivated you?

Speaker 4 (02:04:56):
I just I don't know.

Speaker 12 (02:04:58):
Da I was watching those babies, he says, yeah, I
kept seeing them, and I got one friend who.

Speaker 4 (02:05:04):
Lost a niece in this, and I don't know.

Speaker 12 (02:05:08):
I was pacing around the garage and Camille walked out
and I almost see if I can help, and she's, okay,
pack your stuff. I got the house and I came down.
Think I'd be here for a couple of days and
help a little bit. And now look around. That kind

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of morphed on me just.

Speaker 4 (02:05:30):
A little bit.

Speaker 12 (02:05:31):
And but I put a post out on my Facebook
page and asked for because we were losing volunteers and
guys were burning out. Uh guys that found somebodies that
weren't used as finding bodies.

Speaker 4 (02:05:48):
And they burned out, and some of them just had
to go back to work.

Speaker 12 (02:05:53):
I mean, I still got jobs, and I'm I have
the luxury that I can stay. I just I talked
to all my fishing guys that have.

Speaker 4 (02:06:05):
Trips loook with me. I told him this is more
important than I want to be here. We will reschedule. Yeah,
and off I went.

Speaker 12 (02:06:12):
And so now I put that note out there and
dug the flood that I got. At one point I
looked down on my phone, I had forty eight unanswered texts. Wow,
when people wanted to come help. And so I have
now gathered those people together. And that's a big part
of my career right now, is I've got all these people.

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At one point I looked down on my phone, I
had forty eight unanswered texts, and they're all showing up
and they got gloves, they got saws, and they got.

Speaker 1 (02:06:40):
Till it's over and it's good. Take a long time,
isn't it.

Speaker 4 (02:06:44):
Yep, it's gonna take a while.

Speaker 12 (02:06:46):
I was supposed to go to Icast next week, and
Camilla and I haven't talked about it, but I don't
think I'm going.

Speaker 4 (02:06:51):
I'm supposed to fly out.

Speaker 12 (02:06:52):
Tuesday, and I think I'm just gonna stay here, you know,
like I'm getting something down here.

Speaker 1 (02:06:57):
You're you're getting so much more done there for those families,
for yourself because you you walk, you pacing around the garage.
You knew that you just had to go, didn't you.

Speaker 4 (02:07:11):
Yep?

Speaker 1 (02:07:11):
Yeah, well you did the right thing, and these families
are going to be very glad that you did. Scott,
I truly appreciate what you.

Speaker 12 (02:07:19):
Worked homicide, and I know, I understand I worked homicide
and I understand. Yeah, this death scene and big man
that's running this, he's been unbelievable.

Speaker 4 (02:07:29):
Harry Holt.

Speaker 12 (02:07:30):
He is the brother of the fire chief here in
Center Point. Here owns a trash company. He is not
first responder, he is not any of that. And he
threw him in to watch over all the volunteers and
he now has He told me this morning he's riding
my truck looking at locations and he said he thinks
he has eighteen hundred volunteers.

Speaker 4 (02:07:51):
Under him right now.

Speaker 1 (02:07:52):
Wow, that's incredible.

Speaker 4 (02:07:56):
So that's what we got going on.

Speaker 1 (02:07:59):
Keep digging, man, keep digging. Scott, thank you for calling.

Speaker 4 (02:08:02):
Sorry it was this late.

Speaker 1 (02:08:03):
No no, no, man, Hey, that's why I didn't bug you.
If you could call, you would I knew that, and
I appreciate you doing that. And uh, I'm gonna let
you get back to the work you're doing for those families.
I really thank you, Scott. All right, sincerely, I'm back
in it.

Speaker 12 (02:08:19):
I just pulled up to my location number two, Okay,
good luck, and then I got a huge ranch up
between here and Kerrville that I just sent about sixty
guys into.

Speaker 4 (02:08:32):
Wow, and I haven't even laid eyes on it. I
just know where the gate is.

Speaker 1 (02:08:35):
Yeah.

Speaker 12 (02:08:35):
Now I gotta go in there and kind of piece
it together and put to together a plan of how
we're gonna search it.

Speaker 1 (02:08:41):
Oh my word, man, it's just that morning. Send me
some pictures of those those balls of stuff and whatnot
if you would, that I can use if you don't mind,
I'd like to see it and share it. Okay, all right, Scotty,
thank you buddy, A chance, I will, all right, Yeah,
I do man. Audios. That's Captain Scott knowall Like, as

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he mentioned, he was HPD homicide for I think two
dozen years somewhere around there. So he understands what he's
looking for, he understands how it's going to get found
and whatnot. And he's doing incredible work, as are the
other eighteen hundred or so volunteers. Thank you all for
listening this morning. I promise you I will be back

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here tomorrow morning at eight o'clock and we'll resume our
conversations about the hill country, about baff and Bay, about
speckled trout fishing, which has been pretty dog one good
this year, and about the pending starts of Teal well
of Dove first and then Teal seasons. I got invited
on a pretty good dove hunt too. I might take

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some time off for that one. Well, we'll be back
tomorrow morning at eight o'clock. I hope you can join
us again. Then, thank you so much for listening. Get outside,
have a little phone with your family. Stay safe, Audios