The Dorado That Ate Baby Turtles

Originally aired on August 10, 2025. On this episode, Doug interviews Captain Michael "Sharky" Marquez from Out Cast Fishin Charters about the best rigs to catch the best fish, talks about his desire to have 10 or less hunting accidents in the state of Texas, and much more.

Episode Transcript

Speaker 1 (00:00):
All right, Sunday edition of the program starts right now.
Thank you all for listening. I certainly do appreciate it.
I have got twenty pounds of sugar to fit into
about a five pound sack this morning. There's so much
going on. I hold, where did my other page go?

Speaker 2 (00:14):
There?

Speaker 1 (00:14):
It's right there, That's what I'm looking for. I talked
briefly because I could do it for hours, but I
try not to because it's boring. I talked briefly about
hunter safety yesterday, and I'm gonna, actually, I don't know
if I have time. I got Michael Marquez, Sharky from
down in Galveson coming on in the second segment of
this hour, and I'm gonna hopefully have him for a

(00:35):
good chunk of time. Because it dawned on me that
as many times as I hear about people learning to
fish and wanting to fish, I hear almost as often
from people who have they got enough boat to make
a little run off shore, but they don't have any
idea what they're doing. They own trout tackle and that's

(00:55):
about it. That's the heaviest rod they've got is a
pretty pretty tight trout rod, and the biggest reel they
own will hold about one hundred and fifty yards of nothing.
So basically they're not ready. They don't know what to
take out there. And I'm gonna get Sharky on the
phone at about I don't know, ten fourteen, ten fifteen

(01:18):
or so, and we're gonna go for a little while
as long as he can. He's gonna be on his
way to church, so I don't want to mess him
up there. But I want to talk about just basic
rigs for the top three or four basic rigs and
tactics for the top three or four kind of fish
we'd be chasing out there, because I can remember some
of the first trips I made with friends of mine

(01:39):
where we just didn't have a clue and we wasted
a lot of time, we wasted a lot of money,
we wasted a lot of tackle just because we didn't know.
So we're gonna get it from the horse's mouth. This
is a guy who makes a living putting regular old
people like you and me on fish with tackle that

(02:01):
can handle them. It's still fun to catch them. It's
not too heavy, but it's still heavy enough that you're
not gonna waste thirty minutes catching a five pound red snapper. Oh,
in any event, we'll talk about that. I want to
go back to the hunter safety though, because I talked
yesterday a little bit about dreaming, and that's all it's

(02:24):
been so far, as far as I can remember, anyway,
unless I missed a year when there were zero hunting fatalities.
But my dream is to is to shoot for zero
hunting fatalities and fewer than a dozen, let's make it ten,
ten or fewer hunting accidents in a season. And I

(02:45):
did the research this morning. In twenty twenty four to
twenty twenty five hunting season here in Texas, we're doing better.
We only had one fatality, but we also had where's
the number h eighteen non fatal accidents? That was actually up.

(03:06):
We did better the year prior, still at one fatality,
which is one too many. One fatality and only ten
accidents in the twenty twenty three to twenty twenty four season.
So we we only have to reduce the number of
hunting fatalities by one to put a zero in that column.

(03:30):
And if more people will just take a little more time,
be a little more patient, not be in a hurry,
not load the wrong cartridge into a rifle, or not
swing a shot gun in front of somebody who's gonna
take pellets. Just little things that everybody who carries a

(03:50):
firearm into the field as a hunter ought to know
and ought to practice. It's one thing to know, it's
one thing to know all about hunter safety. It's another
thing to practice it. And I feel confident that I've
done it long enough to where it's instinctive for me.
Where if I'm walking down a trail along with several

(04:13):
other hunters who are on their way to a spot
in a dove field, I'm making sure my gun is
either well, if I've carried it over and under, it's
cracked open completely. If I've got a pump gun or
a semi auto, it's the chamber is open and locked.
That way, I'm I'm triple careful. I don't let a

(04:36):
barrel swing in front of somebody, even if it's unloaded.
They don't know that. And unloaded guns then we have
to wrap quotes around unloaded, but they account for a
lot of the hunting accidents. People think their gun's unloaded
when it's actually not. A Carter's Country, I talked with

(04:56):
Billy Carter a lot of times about this. If you
ever go into the main store up there on Treshwig
where the range is, look behind the counter and you're
gonna see a big jar, I mean like a big
jar that has, depending on when you're there, a lot
of rifle cartridges in it, and probably some shotgun shells.

(05:18):
Those all came from guns that were brought in for
repair and presumed to be by their owners empty, presumed
to be safe and free and clear, And as soon
as one of the guns smith grabs it and racks it,
oop out pops the cartridge, hot and live and as

(05:39):
deadly as ever. Oh wow, I didn't know that. I Oh,
I thought it was empty. Well why didn't you check
before you brought it in the store? Because I thought
it was empty when I put it away? Well, why
didn't you check before you put it away? It all
goes back to the person who last touched that gun,

(06:00):
and if that person's you, then anything that happens is
on you. And you don't want that on your shoulders
for the rest of your life. You just don't. I
can't imagine being the cause of a hunting accident. I
don't think I could ever fall asleep again. I really
don't so we're gonna try again. The twenty twenty five

(06:20):
twenty twenty six season is about to start, and once
it does, I'm gonna pray and cross my fingers and
throw salt over my shoulder and do everything I can
to try to get us through this one with zero
hunting fatalities and ten or fewer hunting accidents. And a

(06:41):
hunting accident really is only a hair's breath from becoming
a hunting fatality. In a lot of cases, they're just
darn lucky. That's what those people are. Darn lucky. Then
it wasn't worse than it became. Now, if you fall
out of a tree stand because you're a deer hunter
and you fall asleep, that's entirely on you. It doesn't

(07:02):
even involve a firearm if you well, I do know,
I do know one guy back when I was guiding.
I'm not going to say who it was. And those
of you who who were out there on that prairie
a lot know the story. You've probably heard it before.
You may have forgotten it by now, but I'm going
to remind you. There were a couple of guys riding
around one morning going kind of looking for some geese

(07:26):
to shoot and I don't remember hit a bump, turned
a corner, whatever, and a ten gage shotgunshell was discharged
inside the vehicle and fortunately, very fortunately went through the
floorboard and created a not a big hole because it

(07:50):
was just right off the end of the barrel, but
it it cut its way cleanly through the floorboard. And
I guess all the pellets just bounced around off the
correator the asphalt or whatever they were over when when
the gun went off. But it's scared the pants off
those guys. It really did. A couple of them who
were in the car tried to kind of bow up.

(08:11):
Oh yeah, that didn't FaZe me. I've heard that a lot,
you know, I've all I've been hearing shotgunshells go off
for all my life. Just another round, now, that's scare anybody.
I guarantee you they were scared. They were looking around
to see who was hit. That was the first move
because they all know that that's not supposed to happen
inside the car. I haven't had deer rifles go off.

(08:35):
It is legal on private property to shoot from a
part a stopped vehicle. You can't just be driving around
Willy and nelly shooting. But unless there a law has changed,
it is legal to drive around Texas on on these
big old ranches we've got, And if you see a
big deer that's lawful and it's in season and you
got your license, you can stop and shoot from the truck.

(08:58):
You can get out of the truck, the gun over
the hood. You can do all of that stuff. But
it's not a good idea to get so excited and
have such anticipatory anxiety that you're not going to get
the shot if you don't just immediately bring that thing
up there like a quick draw artist. Just go ahead
and leave the leave the action on a bolt rifle

(09:22):
half up, and I even take it all the way
back and just pull it, pull the pull the handle
back just a little bit. I want I don't want
that thing to have any chance of firing. I don't
want it to have any chance of just firing on
its own, even if it's dropped. And you can do
that just by not having it locked and loaded. That's
what locked and loaded means. It doesn't it doesn't mean halfway,

(09:46):
and halfway won't fire halfway. The trigger won't engage the
firing pin all the way down because you think that
deer might just stand there for a nanosecond and that's
all you've got and you got to hurry up and
get it out the window, and got to do this,
and got to do that. That's gonna cost some trouble.
Good Heavens, Look, I tell you what we're gonna do.
I'm gonna jump out early here so that we can

(10:07):
get sharky on the phone, because I think this audience
has enough, and especially with the guy I lead. The
gulf just laid down, just laid down, so pretty right now,
there's almost no wind anywhere along the entire Texas coast.
It shouldn't be. I haven't. I haven't even looked yet.
I'm gonna have to go check the uh check the
saltwater recon cameras. But I get I'm pretty confident that

(10:30):
when I get there, and it's not gonna take me along,
I'm gonna do it during the break. When I get there,
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that a whole lot of people could just tear up
a whole lot of fish on if they only knew
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(10:51):
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(11:12):
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(11:33):
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Dunflike show Sports Talk seven ninety eight seventeen. I'm gonna
get quickly to Michael Marquez aka Sharky. What's going on? Sharky?

(12:41):
There we go. Now you're here. I'm trying to get
in the boat and I fell into water, So what's
going on?

Speaker 3 (12:50):
We're good?

Speaker 1 (12:51):
Hey, yeah, we're good now, man. I appreciate your time.
I know, you got to get to church, so don't
worry about me holding on to you. To me deal man,
So if you're if you're getting a phone call and
the guy who's paying for the trip is, here's what
I kind of want to do. If the guy who's
paying for the trip says, I want to catch up
whatever it is, what I want to know is how

(13:11):
you're rigging up what rod you're carrying? And maybe I
think to make it easy, let's just start from the
bottom and work our way up. Okay, So the guy says, man,
I'd really like to catch a bunch of red snapper
for my family. So what what rod you loading up
for those?

Speaker 3 (13:26):
Yeah? Absolutely, man, So we really like, you know, depending
on what the what the angler preference is, if it's
a spinning combo setup, we're using like a pin slammer
sixty five hundred's sixty five pound braid with like a
like a forty to sixty pound pin carnage rod or

(13:46):
like six and a half seven foot boat boat rides
and that that that setup what's great about that and
also the the open face out that we use, which
would be like a pensathom for eld compared with a
pin carnage rod, sixty pound braid. I mean they're so interchangeable.
So yeah, we really like to use snap swivels you

(14:09):
know that way. We have some pre made leaders and
it's something something else swims up to the boat that's
not a snapper. You know, you can just interchange that
out super quickly. But that's kind of the combos that
we use. We you control with them, you can drop
them to the bottom, you could slow pitch jigam. Yeah,
those those uh, we're we love the pin pin fathoms

(14:32):
for the for the open face and the spin fisher
slammers for the spinning reels are are hard to be
We even take them out there and tune of fish
with them those ways, those pin slammers.

Speaker 1 (14:42):
Yeah, absolutely, it sounds to me like and I'm glad
to hear it. There are rods and real the combinations
that you can put together that really will serve more
than one or two purposes. Because man, twenty five thirty
years ago, if you were going to kind of catch this,
you had to have these rods. And if you were
going to catch that, so you had to bring thirty
rods on board, you know.

Speaker 3 (15:03):
Right, we did.

Speaker 1 (15:04):
I don't know if we needed them, but we had them.
Let's go why you mentioned pre made leaders. How many
leaders when you leave the doc, how many snapper leaders,
how many king macro leaders? Whatever? Are are tied up
and total stowed away somewhere.

Speaker 3 (15:23):
Yeah, if I've got you know, the ideas that we make,
we try to at least make pretty quick work out
of the snapper. And so you know, you might get
broke off by a shark eating a snapper or an
amber jack hitting it. Sure, you know, while you're reeling
in something small. So I like to have a backup.
So if I got six guys, I'm bringing you know,
ten twelve leaders, and that the idea is that that

(15:45):
should be more than enough to get our limit and
h and rock and roll onto something else. And so
you know, typically that's the that's the idea and the premises.
You know, if we're on a ten hour or twelve
hour trip, these guys they're they're excited to catch the
red snapper. But typically we catch the biggest ones we

(16:07):
can and then we move on and we have the
rest of the day to kind of play around out there,
you know, looking for weed lines or targeting different you know,
whatever's priority on their species list of kegs back.

Speaker 1 (16:21):
To the bottom shark you for just a second. I
don't want to get too good ahead. So if if
a guys is I want to catch, I don't care
if I catch, if anybody else on the whole boat
catches a snapper, I want to see the biggest snapper
on the bottom where we stop. How are you gonna
bait for that?

Speaker 3 (16:35):
Yeah? Yeah, So I mean the ultimate ultimate would be
some live bait, like stopping uh uh, you know, bringing
some piggy perch or throwing a piggy trap in.

Speaker 4 (16:46):
Uh.

Speaker 3 (16:47):
Those those live baits work really well. But I'll tell
you another trick. Is we use like giant, giant palm
sized men Haden. Yeah, and those men Hayden, you can
literally like lay out in your pond and they're hanging
over You're hanging over both sides of your hand and
saying and what they're big. And what I tell my

(17:07):
people is, look, we're gonna drop this thing down over
this reef for over this structure, and you're gonna get
a lot of little nibbles. And my thoughts are is
that there's a lot of little snappers that are coming
up and kind of pecking at it. And uh, I
tell my folks, especially my my bass guys or my
fresh water guys, said, it's gonna take everything in you
not to set that hook. But do not set that
hook and wait for that rod to double over. And

(17:31):
that's that big mama bear snapper coming in, pushing the
little guys out of the way, grabbing the bait and
driving straight straight down with it. And so it'll go
from those machine gun hits, all of a sudden that
rod doubles over, and so big min Hayden and you
know what we will use like super fresh they're like
elix squid, they're super you know, there's so many different

(17:53):
types of squids, but the really big, the big squid,
whole squid. We're never cutting them in chunks unless we're
you know, bottom fishing for over millions or different smaller
snapper species. But just big baits. You know, the fish
are there a lot of times those big fish are there.
There might be you know, two hundred small snapper and

(18:13):
five big one, right, so you just putting the big
enough bait down there to be there long enough so
that big snapper can find it out, you know, can
can sniff it out and so that's been a key
for us this season and pulling big snapper, just throwing big,
big baits down there, ignoring the nibbles and waiting for
that month so to come up and smack it.

Speaker 1 (18:34):
You know, what do you what do you shift? What
gear do you shift into? If the guy says, okay,
we got our snapper. I want to catch a big amberjack,
do you first ask him if he's of sound mind
and body.

Speaker 3 (18:48):
Typically the first question, you know, we're not in AJ season.
But example was three days ago we had somebody that
wanted to catch an AJ and so, you know, dropping
a typically why you're snapper fishing. You can look out
and there's typically I mean if you're over a reef
or over a rig or something in their snapper there,
there's typically bait fish there. You know, that's why the

(19:11):
snapper are there, right, So, uh, tying on a sabekie rig,
casting it out and reeling in some blue runners, I
mean that would be the most efficient way catch you
some some live little blue runners or grunt fish or
whatever else. You know, anything that's twelve inches or under,
they're gonna they're gonna eat that. And uh, dropping that

(19:34):
sucker about halfway down in the water column. And for that,
you know, sometimes we do catch the big emmerjeck on
our on our snapper rods, and it's just this crazy
fight and they'll lead our you know, big u big
man Hagen. You know, I.

Speaker 1 (19:49):
I was gonna ask you about Sabeki riggs and whether
you still drag them out there, and for that very purpose,
and I'm glad you brought it up and before I
even talked about it, because that was that's a game
change out there. It's not that hard to catch lives
if you've got those with you, is it.

Speaker 3 (20:04):
Yeah, it's not. And a little tip is we really
like to use the when you're buying a subekie rigs,
you know from Academy or whatever, order one online. We
really like the thirty pound or even the best is
like the forty pounds. Yeah, mono. You know, you're just
not gonna have as many breakoffs because you'll be realing

(20:27):
fish in and they'll get they'll get eight and then
you know, you drop ten hooks down and you got
three left to drop with. So that forty pound is
a little bit more durable when you're dropping it down
to the bottom and trying to. I don't think it.

Speaker 1 (20:40):
I don't think it costs you any bytes on those
things either. Really they're little tiny dressed hooks and little
tiny fish are coming up and eating them, and they're
not I don't think they're spooking off that line at all. Almost.

Speaker 3 (20:54):
Yeah, I don't think so either. That forty pound is
my favorite, you know, And sometimes they're real there's like
fourteen hooks.

Speaker 4 (21:01):
On there, and.

Speaker 3 (21:03):
Yeah, yeah, I'll cut that thing down, you know, cut
halfway down it and I just need six or seven
hooks dropping to the bottom with a little tear drop
style weight.

Speaker 1 (21:13):
And you know, the first introduction I ever got to
anything like that was when I was a little kid
fishing on the Deerfield Beach Fishing Pier in Florida at
my grandparents close to my grandparents' house, and this guy
was there were big schools of pilchers moving up and
down the beach and whatnot. Oh yeah, and this guy
all he had was a little dropper rig that he'd

(21:33):
made at home. There were no subeakie rigs back a
million years ago, and just a little little gold short
shank like salmon egg hooks and then dropped you about
six of those. And that's all it took. Man, just
that little sparkle in the water and they ate it up. Buddy.
All right, let's come up top a little bit. Let's
let's go king fishing. Now, what are we going to change?

Speaker 3 (21:54):
Yeah, kingfishing. You know a couple of different methods and
ways to do it. I'm a real big fan of
slow trolling, So I'll use the Rapolla divers and I'll
do I'll do me like eighty six. I think it's
I think it comes in about eighty six or somewhere
around that eighty pound eighty three. It's it's just a

(22:16):
wire and we're using haywire. Twist yep. If you're rocking
with whether it's the spinning reel we talked about, or
the or the bait cast or reel man, you snap
slivelet you catch a snapper. Guess what, you've got a
two foot lead with uh? With your eighty pound you know, hey,
wire twist onto one of those ripola divers. Yeah, and

(22:38):
you start trolling that thing around the reef and over
the top of the reef or you know, whether it's
behind trump boats or over a reef system. Uh. And
the great thing is you can mark those kingfish. So
say that I'm pulling up to a new spot and
I've never fished it before, and I want to see
if there's any any structure down there or napper or

(23:01):
bottom fishing. I love to put out those divers, you know,
quarter mile away from it and just troll up and
around and over it while I'm running my DownScan and
then bang, I see my snapper down there. I hit
the mark button on my GPS. Maybe we catch some kingfish,
maybe we hooked into something crazy, but at least I'm

(23:21):
kind of I'm kind of multitasking. And then once we
do that, I can always come back around and drop
on that structure. And you know, and that with the
currents and everything too. You know, if you've got a
strong current, those fish are typically off the back end
of that refrastructure, you know, on the down current side.

(23:44):
And what you'll notice a lot of times is if
you pull up to a small spot, whether it's a
pipeline crossing or or say just a well head or
something that's small, you'll notice that those fish can be
can be it, you know, one hundred yards off of
it sometimes yeah, easy, And so yeah, you want to
troll you want to troll around it, or at least
you know. I always tell my my guys at my

(24:05):
seminars and stuff. If I do a seminar, I say, look,
when you're trying to catch those a big snapper, A
lot of times we're dropping on the main area or
what you think is the main area, and we're drifting
way off of it. At least give it one good drift, absolutely,
thank you. You might catch you know, one hundred yards
off of that thing. You might catch a monster, No.

Speaker 1 (24:24):
Kidd because that monster's not gonna hang out with the
little kids.

Speaker 3 (24:28):
Yeah, A lot of the times they don't.

Speaker 1 (24:29):
This is grandpa on the couch you're looking for.

Speaker 3 (24:31):
Man, let's take that.

Speaker 2 (24:32):
Yeah.

Speaker 1 (24:33):
Can you hang on through a quick break?

Speaker 3 (24:35):
Sure?

Speaker 1 (24:36):
Yeah? Okay, good. I got more questions. If anybody else
has got a question you want me to ask Sharky,
shoot me an email or a text or whatever, and
I'll try to work it in. If you want to.
You take a couple of calls Sharky. Maybe yeah, for
somebody somebody panicking and trying to Man, I got a
chance to talk to this guy about off shore. I
love it. We'll see what happens. We're gonna take a
little break here. On the way out, I'll tell you
about Shooter's Corner, Palmer high Way at twenty ninth Street

(24:58):
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of the best gunsmiths I've ever known, literally ever known.
I have sent so many people to them for problems
with guns. It's kind of like I'd send people who
want to go offshore fishing to Sharky. I'm sending gun
people to Jerry and JTK down at Shooter's Corner. All
you gotta do is walk in that store to know

(25:18):
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(25:38):
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(26:01):
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(27:05):
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on spour Taalk seven ninety. Thanks for listening. Certainly, do
appreciate it. Got Sharky Marquez on the phone. Listen to him.
Back up there we go, Hey Sharky, thanks for hanging around.

Speaker 3 (27:26):
Man, buddy.

Speaker 1 (27:27):
So I got a question, you know, Guitar dave guitar Davey.
He wants to know about catching dorado, okay, And I
want to know because he asked me to ask you
if they have become if they've become smart enough in
their evolution over the last one hundred million years. If

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you catch me, if you got one on the hook
and you leave him in the water, do they all
still hang around? Are they that dumb still?

Speaker 3 (27:56):
You know? I would say a lot of the times
the smaller ones are. Yeah, you know, and I've been
offshore fishing now, I've been fishing for you know, professionally
for twelve years that I've been offshore only for about
five I think this is my fifth or fifth year,
maybe sall it fifth or sixth year, and crazy it
used to be like that. What I have noticed is

(28:19):
I've also changed my fishing method for them. So, you know,
back in the day, when I would I'd say back
in the day, say last summer, as early as last summer,
I'd see a weed line out there, we would pull up,
we would chum the weed line, and then we would
have a bunch of mahi swim out. You know, we'd
find the biggest chunk of weed we could or whatever's floating,

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and we'd have a bunch of mahi swim out and
we'd start throwing you know, free floating, no way, just
circle hooks, some floor carbon forty pounds liter, little circle
hook and we'd catch them. But what I've done and
transitioned into is if I've got a nice stretch and
a nice weed line or a rip current, I've transitioned

(29:01):
into trolling. You know, us your feather jigs, Yeah, bigger fish,
bigger fish. And it was great. We made a lot
of memories. We caught a ton of mahi doing the uh,
the pitch lining. But but man, this summer, yeah, I said,
I got I'm gonna try to I'm gonna try to
transition into chicken dolphins. From chicken dolphins to some bulls
and and bigger fish. And man, it's worked like a charm.

(29:25):
And so yeah, to answer your question, there's still there's
still a little silly out there. I feel like they've
gotten a little bit more. You know. We were Yeah,
you would think we did our sword fishing. Uh, two
three days ago we were out there hooked up on
a sword.

Speaker 1 (29:39):
Fish and.

Speaker 3 (29:42):
It was great. It was great.

Speaker 5 (29:45):
We were there.

Speaker 3 (29:46):
We were on it for about three hours. After three hours,
there was schooling mahi around the boat while we were
fighting this fish. And I guess we were the structure,
you know, three hours of drifting over. They were swimming
around and I tell you what, Doug, you couldn't. You couldn't. Uh,
you couldn't catch one with a cast net if you
wanted to. I mean, those things were so picky. We

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threw the kitchen sink at him. We threw gotcha lures,
We threw everything, we chummed. They weren't eating a chum
and they were just swimming around the boat.

Speaker 1 (30:17):
Yeah, this sounds about like they were almost in fight
or flight. They were in fight mode or flight mode.
Scared whatever ran them up under your boat. They were Yeah,
they weren't hungry. They were scared of man.

Speaker 3 (30:30):
They weren't hungry man. But then you know, we moved.
Uh we we lost the fish after about a three
hour fight, which was heartbreaking. We moved in about ten miles.
We found a booie and they were all over it
and they were super hungry. But I think it's circumstantial,
you know, as far as as the dorado. But man,
trolling feather jigs has been huge. Actually taught the biggest

(30:52):
mahi of my life on a Ripolla diver trolling a
diver down a weed line. And then we stuck about
a twenty five pounder earlier this uh this summer, which
is a big, big tech for us. And he ate
a rig ballely who with an islander skirt, and uh,
you know, I mean that's I love. I love trolling

(31:14):
lures or using things that give us the opportunity and
potential to catch like more crazier fish. So that's kind
of what I transitioned into. Instead of pulling up and
sitecasting the small dolphin. It's like, man, let's let's troll
the ballet who down here, and if there's a sailfish
we might.

Speaker 1 (31:32):
Call a selfish. Yeah, it's honest, it's so it's amazing
to me that and I'm glad you're having this experience
because I started doing this like fifty years ago and
just crazy. You'd never truly know what's gonna hit what
rod whenever. If you're dropping for swordfish, that's a different game.

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But if you're trolling, no idea, what's gonna come up
and eat that bait man?

Speaker 3 (31:57):
That's exactly right, or just swim making stuff out there
that anything will lead. Yeah, I mean anything from a
sailfish to a wahoo. If you're sixty a line him wahoo.

Speaker 1 (32:10):
Anything before we get to before I got a couple
of more minutes to hang on to you and then
I know you got to go. Let's go back to
terminal tackle for a minute. You very casually mentioned haywire
twists and there's a right way and the wrong way
to finish a haywire, whether you either get a nice
clean break or that you can run your fingers up
and down, or you got that little quarter inch needle

(32:31):
sticking out that you just cut off, and yeah, it'll
eat you up. And I know we can't describe how
to do it right on the radio, there's not a chance.
But people need to look that up, don't they to
make it just a lot easier to fish and a
lot safer.

Speaker 3 (32:48):
Yeah. Absolutely, I love the safety aspect of it, because man,
that little quarter inch deal sticking out will slice your hands.
I know it's happened to you. It's happened to me
before we started doing it the right way. But you know,
just you know, to simply try to explain it, you
leave yourself enough tag in to be able to take

(33:08):
a pair of flyers and grab that haywire or your
actual twist, and then you basically just take that tag
in and bend it all the way one way all
the way the other way, and you're sitting up that
wire so that it cleanly breaks right there at the
end of that twist. And then just like you know
you're saying, you can, you can grab it, you can

(33:28):
slide it out of your hand, you don't have to
worry about, you know, it beating you up too bad.

Speaker 1 (33:33):
So you got any favorite knots?

Speaker 3 (33:36):
I use a I'm pretty standard guy, use a Uni
nod or a fisherman's nod. I call it a fisherman's knot.
It's a cinch knot, and I use that for my
braid to uh floor carbon connection and you know, uh,
I didn't talk about weight or anything on the snapper deal,
but real briefly, you know, it's kind of the same

(33:58):
thing as when we're when we're trout fishing or jetty fishing.
You know, my rule of thumb is used as light
of weight as you can get away with with the current,
and some days that's three ounces an egg. Thinker, we're
using like one hundred and fifty pound one hundred and
fifty pounds liter when we're dropping down to the bottom
for our snapper. It's excessive, but you never know, you

(34:20):
might catch an amber jack, you might catch something crazy.
So we like to yeah, grouper right, So your fishing structure,
so we use about three foot of one hundred and
fifty pounds. I use a size nine you know nine
circle hooks big enough to catch just about anything down
then really and and you know, like I said, there's

(34:43):
days where the current is super slow and you you
don't need a troll of motor. You're sitting on the
spot and you got thirty minutes to fish it before
you even drift off of it. In those days, you know,
drop down two ounces, three ounces, Well that's the lightning.

Speaker 1 (34:58):
You get a big blast, did you? Oh boy, Okay,
I'm gonna let you get to church Man where you
work it. Maybe maybe that's your sign that it's time
for us to give it up.

Speaker 3 (35:09):
You heard that.

Speaker 1 (35:11):
I didn't hear it, But I'm glad you're saying. Thanks
for all your helm man, I really appreciate it. We
may do this against all right, sharky mart Yeah, outcasts
Fishing Charters dot com. No g on the fishing. We
got that right, right.

Speaker 3 (35:25):
Yes, sir, sure, I thank thank you so much. Sunday
You'll be safe.

Speaker 1 (35:30):
You bet you too, Audios all right, I man, I
I could sit and talk with him for a long
long time about terminal stuff. And and it's interesting about
those Dorato. It really is because we used to find
him and we were doing the same thing he was
doing before he decided to upgrade just like we did.
It's exactly the same transformation. You look at the bottom

(35:51):
of the boat and there's twenty five of these little
foot and a half long foot long dorotto and they're
just basically blue marlin potato chips. And you realize that
there are some fifteen and twenty pounders out there, and
you get just where you don't care about those little
guys anymore, so you do exactly what he did. You
troll those weed lines very patiently because there are bigger

(36:13):
fish underneath them. Every now and then the little ones
will come running out and looking at your lure and
playing with it and asking if it wants to play
with them, and they're not really trying to eat that.
But then that big one comes out and all the
little ones go away. And I've got to I tell
you what. I've got a red snapper trick that it
was talked to me. If you listen long enough, you've
probably heard it. But I'm gonna share it with you

(36:35):
when I get back. And this will absolutely get rid
of those little bitty snapper around there and make sure
the giant, the one super giant, has a chance to
get to that bait. Black Horse Golf Club. Shifting gears
a little bit. Go out two ninety to Fry Road,
take a south on Fry Road, and about two two

(36:56):
and a half miles down that road there you will
see the gate to black Horse Golf Club. There you
will enter, and from that point forward pretty much anybody
you meet who works there is just happy to see you,
wants to make sure you have a good time. If
you need lessons now, you're gonna have to go all
the way to the far end of the range to
get them, but it'll be worth the drive if you

(37:17):
need it. Up back to the clubhouse, you can get
in there. You actually make your own tea time right
at the website black Horsecolf Club dot com. But you
can get in there, get yourself some golf ball, get
you a cap, get your towel. Look around see if
you can find Craig Hicks. Tell him I said hello,
and ask him to tell you a hunting story. He
loves the outdoors as much as we do. I promise

(37:38):
you he does, a great guy. I think he's from Kentucky.
I if I'm not mistaken. The North course still daily fee.
You can make yourself that tea time right now. If
you want to. South Course went private this year, and
that is a fantastic thing for the people who are
taking advantage of that membership because there is a membership
option that gets you not just black Horse South, it

(38:00):
gets both courses on that property. It gets both courses
at Golf Club of Houston, and it gets you access
to Blackhawk Country Club. It's one of my favorites, personal favorite,
because I play out there all the time. I love it.
Black Horse Golf Club dot com. That's where I go
to black Horse when black Hawk is closed. Black Horsegolf
Club dot com. Welcome back, eight fifty one on Sports

(38:24):
Talk seven to ninety. I'm gonna get to two calls,
and that's gonna probably fill up this last little segment
of this hour. Let's start with the longest on hold.
That'd be Rick and Kevin. Just hang on man, Rick,
what's wait a minute, let me put him back on hold. Hey,
there we go. What's up?

Speaker 6 (38:38):
Rick?

Speaker 4 (38:39):
Hey, listen. I've really enjoyed Sharky's interview. I have never
met him in person.

Speaker 3 (38:46):
That's pretty very familiar with Calvin.

Speaker 4 (38:48):
Some other other ways I know, and I mean we've
talked also, but I mean, I don't know I've never
met him.

Speaker 1 (38:57):
Yeah.

Speaker 4 (38:57):
Sure, anyway, if I was going to go off little fishing,
there is no doubt in my mind that that would
be the guy I would go with.

Speaker 1 (39:05):
You'd have a.

Speaker 4 (39:05):
Good time, no doubt about it. You have a good time.
He's a he's a good guy, and he has got
the best equipment, and he's gonna, like he said, let's
go make some dreams, and he would do it. The
problem is this, I can't go with him out there
because I can go to a resort with a lazy

(39:26):
river and get sea sick. You can tell me out.
But what I had originally called you about earlier today
this morning, you were talking about gun safety. Brought up
Bill Carter's big big jar of unfired cartridges. I've seen

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that many times. I love going to the quarters in spring.
That's you know. I mean that that was the placed.

Speaker 1 (39:56):
Oh yeah, no doubt.

Speaker 4 (39:59):
And so quickly lead to my story since you brought
all of that up of loaded guns. I have a
guy down the street from where I'm sitting right now,
and he has an AK forty seven and he has
an A R ten really good for him, and uh

(40:19):
he calls me and he says, hey, man, or we're talking.
He said, man, I got a real armor dell of
problem over here. He says, I'm looking for, you know,
a twenty two or four ten. I said, well, I've
got my four ten. You know it stays in my truck.
Twenty four to seven. Yeah, you know, uh, three sixty five,
it's up. Some guys are gonna drool when I tell

(40:41):
him one of this, but uh, it's a burretta double
barrel from the fifties.

Speaker 1 (40:46):
Oh wow.

Speaker 4 (40:47):
Anyway, stocks broke it got yellow wood blue all over up.
Take but a little double barrel and uh. Anyway, I
went over there. I handed the tune unloaded and I said, Jimmy,
here's two shells. I said, that should be more than enough.

(41:08):
If you need more than that for this armadilo, we've
got a problem. And so kind of kind of a joke,
you know. So anyway, he calls me, he texted me, said, man,
I got the armor delo.

Speaker 5 (41:19):
This morning, real early.

Speaker 3 (41:20):
I said, good.

Speaker 4 (41:20):
I said, you know how to get in this electric gate?
Go put it on my swing at the shop and
I said, I got and and just leave the gate open.
I got some workers coming in there, so and I'll
be there a little bit. Anyway, About an hour or
two later, I get up here, and I first thing
I wanted was go get that gun.

Speaker 1 (41:42):
Let's get get let's go.

Speaker 6 (41:46):
I'm just gonna make it real quick.

Speaker 4 (41:48):
Uncought that gun, and uh one an empty barrel and
one with a shell in.

Speaker 1 (41:54):
Oh my lord. So he just yeah, he couldn't take
it out and put it on the swing neck to
the gun.

Speaker 4 (42:02):
So, uh, I don't care what he did. He brought
me back a loaded.

Speaker 1 (42:06):
Gun, no kidding. So here's the question, and I already
know the answer. You ever gonna load him a gun again?

Speaker 4 (42:12):
No? I told you that.

Speaker 1 (42:14):
Good for you? Yeah, you play around?

Speaker 4 (42:17):
No, I mean this guy's walking around with an AK
forty seven and the New York n Yeah, shooting pigs
down off of this front board.

Speaker 3 (42:24):
And all right, it's crazy.

Speaker 1 (42:28):
That was Yeah, that was worth it, Rick, because that's
that's an important safety story. Thank you for sharing that one. Man,
that's a good one. All right, let's see you up, Kevin.
What you got there, Kevin? What's going on?

Speaker 3 (42:37):
Man?

Speaker 2 (42:37):
Hey, Doug, how you been body good?

Speaker 5 (42:40):
Yeah?

Speaker 2 (42:41):
I'd telling you a little story about surfishing trip I
went on Tuesday. Come on, my grandson he's thirteen now,
and I took him fishing when he was younger, when
I was a ranger at the path and caught a
few little fish, caught a flounder. But he's taking an
interest in fishing finally, So took him down the surfside
down by where the old Sam's pear used to be,

(43:02):
got out there and taught him out to throw a
cast net, and he took to it pretty quick, and
we started fishing. We went out to the second sandbar
and we're fishing, and we were you just using cut mullet.
We had thrown some soft plastics, didn't do it any good,
but casting out there and just letting something waiting for

(43:23):
something to come hit that cut mullet, and uh, and
I caught caught one trout and re rigged and cast
back out and I caught an apple dive. Apple watch
caught it. The hook hook was through the band of
the watch. It's like a six I took it to

(43:48):
at and T store, like a six hundred dollar watch,
and they said it's actually was still active. The phone
was still on, so evidently evidently he had lost it
within the last five days. He said, the charge on
the phone last for five five to seven days.

Speaker 3 (44:03):
Wow.

Speaker 2 (44:04):
If you know anybody out there that was fishing in
and around Sam's Pier and the beach front bar grill
on the surfside. Baby that lost then apple, I watch
told him to get in touch with him, be glad
to give it back.

Speaker 1 (44:16):
When did they find it? When did you? When did
you catch it?

Speaker 2 (44:20):
I caught it. I caught it this past.

Speaker 1 (44:21):
Tuesday, Holy cow, So just a few days ago. Goll. Yeah,
it's about to run out of juice.

Speaker 2 (44:26):
Funny funny thing about it. That had had a magnetic
watch band on it where they had kind of folded
over itself and and held together with a magnet. Evidently
he hit the magnet when he was out there fishing and.

Speaker 1 (44:40):
Oh yeah, popped off. Holyell. That's a that's a good
that's a good open question. What's the craziest thing you've
ever found or caught in the water.

Speaker 2 (44:52):
We were surfishing at the mouth of the Bradges one
time and a buddy of mine caught hooked a twenty
dollars bill with the surf roll.

Speaker 1 (45:02):
That's not bad paid for, guess you know? All right, Kevin,
that's a great story, man. So we've got an Apple Watch.
I'm not gonna ask you for any details about that
watch in case people would just want to kind of
take random shots at it. I don't want to know
what color it was any of that.

Speaker 2 (45:22):
Just it's actually got a keypad that you actually have
to punch the keypad code that unlock it. Okay, it'll
show you the time on the face of it. Yeah,
but that's it. Okay, it won't do it won't open
to show you any features, or you can't make phone
calls or anything like that.

Speaker 1 (45:37):
Comment I got you. Well, if that thing rings in
the next twenty minutes and then somebody will email me
and let me know that they're looking for their Apple Watch,
maybe we can make some magic happen here. Thanks Kevin,
that's great, but sound good, Yeah, buddy, all right, by adios.
All right, gotta take a little break here. Going out,

(45:58):
I'm gonna tell you about Belleville Meat Market. All the
way Well, it's really not that far. You just go
to seventy one, hang a ride on thirty six and
go north for about fifteen maybe twenty minutes tops, I think,
and there you will be in the middle of the
little town of Belleville. And if you don't know where
Bellville Meat Market is. All you gotta do is roll

(46:19):
down your windows, drive around till you smell delicious barbecue,
and then take a look at the trees, see which
way the wind's blowing, and then just drive up wind
and then you will find Belleville Meat Market. That's where
you can go in. You can drop off the order
that you and your family made on the way there,
drop it off over the meat counter to let them

(46:39):
start stacking up everything you want to take home. Then
you can take a few steps to the left and
get in line. There's usually a line there from ten
am to seven pm of people wanting to get a
delicious barbecue meal from Bellville. You can get the usuals
of barbecue places, the sausage, the ribs, the brisket, the chicken,

(47:00):
all of that. You can also get homemade hot dogs.
You can get hamburger patties. And then also in the store,
they can't order that for lunch, but you can get
stuff pork, tender stuff, peppers, stuff, mushrooms, and you're gonna
end up stuffed when you cook all that stuff at
the house. I'm sure Belleville Meat Market your backyard barbecue headquarters.

(47:20):
Your block party headquarters pretty soon to be hunting season
headquarters too. They do while game processing year round, but
they don't always take in anything and everything. So call
before you bring something in this time of year to
make sure that they're able and ready to handle that.
Chuck Wagon patties, big half pound patties season the loaded

(47:42):
with cheddar cheese. They've got venison, hot dog. Who you
bring the venison, you can get them. They've got Tomali's,
all of these delicious things, all of these delicious things
for you. And one of my favorites, dry stick. It's
just a very simple little product. It's kind of a
grab and go snack. Got a lot of protein in there.
Gonna really perky up when you about to have fall
asleep in the stand this year while you're dear hunting.

(48:05):
Belleville MeetMarket dot Com. If you can't get out there,
they'll send pretty much anything in the store right to
your door. Highway thirty six, about fifteen minutes north of Sealy,
fifteen minutes south of Hempstead. Very easy to find, Belleville
MeetMarket dot Com. All right, welcome back, before I get
to any golf talk, before I talk about the Saint

(48:25):
Jude tournament over there in Memphis. I want to get
to David's email. We were talking about gun safety earlier
and I'm still I am still, absolutely one hundred percent
focused on trying I know I play no real part
in this, but trying to get through a hunting season
in Texas with no fatalities. Been one one last year,
won the year before. But let's go for zero and

(48:46):
it won't take that much. David weighed in with this said,
if you wait until you're in your stand before loading
your firearm and unloaded before you leave, you will greatly
reduce your chances of being involved in a shooting accident.
That's because most accidental discharges don't occur while hunters are
engaged in hunting wild game, but while climbing into and

(49:09):
out of stands, walking to and from their stands, or
around vehicles where other hunters are nearby. There's a concern
about needing around in case you encounter a feral hog.
That's the that's the number one comeback when people say, well, yeah,
but I'm scared to walk through the woods without a
loaded gun in case you and needing around in case

(49:32):
you and counter feral hog or some other critical need.
I can't imagine what the other critical need would be.
Leave a round or two in the magazine where they
can be quickly chambered if necessary. Good advice, Good advice.
Now I'm I'm guilty sometimes depending on where I am
and what the circumstances are of having a loaded magazine.

(49:56):
But I don't chamber rounds when I'm walking in out
for that very reason. I don't want to give that
gun any way to randomly fire, especially if it's in
a situation where I've tripped and stumbled and I'm falling
forward and all of a sudden, all kinds of parts

(50:19):
of that gun are hitting everything on the ground and
twigs and rocks and whatever things that could cause it
to discharge if the trigger gets pulled. I want it
to be pulled on an empty chamber, like I can
replace a firing pin. If I break one, that's not
that big a deal. Might mess up the day or
the week's hunt, But no, thank you, David. That's just

(50:41):
great advice. It really is. Stop back and think. If
you're a grown up and you've been hunting deer all
your life, how many times have you actually been face
to face with a life threatening situation where you felt
that you had to instantly discharge that gun or you
were going to get hurt really badly. My number, although

(51:03):
I've had some scary things going on, like coyotes suddenly
sounding like they've surrounded me. They were off in the distance,
and then they got closer and closer, and then then
right behind me kind of it sounded like one of
them was in my pocket, and then right in front
of me and beside me, and all at once. I've
had that happen. I've come face to face with hogs,

(51:27):
but I've never had one try to attack me, so
I guess we weren't really face to face. Yeah, it's
a whole different shooting match. It really is. When you
stop and just put things in perspective, it's so unlikely
that you're going to have to have a chambered round

(51:48):
to defend yourself from an animal or anything, maybe some
crazy people wandering through the woods, who knows, But the
odds of that happening are so slim, and the odds
of an accident happening, I bet are greater. I don't
know what the statistics are on that. I don't have
the algorithm, I don't have all the information I would

(52:10):
need to even start that kind of calculation. But my
gut says that if you don't have one in the chamber,
if you're carrying a bolt action rifle or a semi
auto rifle or any rifle that has a magazine on it,
the odds are overwhelmingly in your favor that just having
them in the magazine is close enough that you can

(52:32):
react in a dangerous emergency situation if you fall, if
you trip and fall, you're not going to be able
to react at all. Both hands are coming off the gun.
You're going to try and break your fall, and that
gun could easily be discharged. So safety Sam, that's me.
Let's move on, shall wait? Let me get my cursor here,

(52:54):
and I'm going to go over here to the PGA
Tours official website for the FedEx Saint Jude Championship. Tommy
Fleetwood at fourteen under par one clear of Justin Rose.
Let me get the whole leaderboard up here so I
can give you some scores. And by the way, if
you were wondering when I talked yesterday just kind of

(53:15):
casually about Scotty Scheffler being way down the list, he
not way down the list anymore. Starting today's round, he
will be two shots behind Tommy Fleetwood. He after shooting
sixty five yesterday, He's come down a notch every single day,
sixty seven, sixty six, sixty five to be at twelve

(53:36):
under par, where Tommy Fleetwood kind of actually going in
the other direction. He shot sixty three, sixty four, sixty
nine in these last three days though, and right there again.
Rose is at thirteen, Sheffer at twelve, JJ Spawn and
Andrew Novak both at eleven, Ben Griffin and Ricky Fowler

(53:59):
and Ris Kirk and Akshay Battilla who shot seventy even
part didn't move either way yesterday, unfortunately. I like that kid,
I really do. He's just this lanky, skinny kid who
hits a ton and it has pretty good short game.

Speaker 3 (54:14):
Great.

Speaker 1 (54:14):
I think he'll do very well long term. In any event,
the guy to watch today, as he has been for
the past. I don't know how many months and years
that guy would be Scotty Scheffer, two shots off the lead,
I guarantee it. When Tommy Fleetwood went to bed last night,
he probably had at least a brief little nightmare about

(54:35):
Scotty Scheffer standing there holding the trophy on eighteen today
this afternoon, Justin Rose absolutely still in it, no question
about it. But he's doing the same thing Tommy Fleetwood
is Rose is at sixty four, sixty six, sixty seven.
Somebody's gonna have to go pretty low today. I would
guess that the winning score today, if it's gonna come

(54:57):
from one of those three guys, the winning score is
going to be probably about sixty five. You're gonna have
to do another five get to seventeen. I think that
might be enough. If Fleetwood hiccups at all and Rose
hiccups at all, I think Scottie Scheffler can can get
by them. At seventeen. That's three shots better uh than

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Fleetwood is now in four better than Justin Rose, and
it's it'll take at least that, it might take one
one lower than that. I won't be surprised the way
these guys have been playing and the way they've handled
courses on final day closing days lately. I wouldn't be
surprised if somebody shot sixty four, but I think a

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sixty five. I think tacking on five more red numbers
overall over the course of the round on a Sunday
might do it. Who knows seven one three, two one
two five seven ninety Email me Doug Pike Atiheartmedia dot com.
We'll move into this break, and this break, I'm gonna
take you out to American shooting centers where most of
us probably should be today to keep preparing for the

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upcoming hunting season, which is now. What do we got
two weeks? Barely the firt well's see twenty Yeah, no,
three weeks. We still have a little time. You need
to get out there. You need to shoot your guns,
and go ahead and take your rifle with you. Why
not take your shotguns, take your rifles, get out there,
break some clay targets, then break for a little bit. Well,

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take take a break, and then go back out there
and punch some holes in paper. Actually do the paper first.
Do the paper first, because it'll be cooler early in
the morning, and then go to the rifle and pistol
areas where you can shoot from five yards to six
hundred yards shotguns. Are so many options out there, three
sporting places, courses, ten trap and skeep fields. They've got

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a beginner's area for wing shooting, the rifle and pistol.
Go all the way out to six hundred yards. There's
actually a little beginners area for pop up silhouette targets.
You can rim fire shoot all day long. Kids can
have a blast and you're not going to burn up
much money and AMMO, thank goodness hum because once they
start shooting shotguns, you know it's gonna cost you. American

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so thrilled to let everybody know that the Kobe Stevens
brand is back on board with me and I get
to speak for Kobe. I've known the guy for years now.
He has one of the nicest collections of golf apparel

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you'll find anywhere, mostly shirts, slowly bringing in the pants,
the shorts and for men and women, and even use
sizes and extra extra extra large. If you need that.
All of his stuff is absolutely as cool as I've
ever seen on a golf course. I wear it most

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of the time. I don't have enough of it yet
to wear it all the time, but if I ever
get to that point, I probably will. I like it
that much. Also introducing an outdoors line, slowly but surely,
and I'm gonna be I'll have more to tell you
about that, hopefully coming up as soon as we can
make something happen here. One of the things that leads

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me back to Kobe Stevens every time I get tempted
by other people is because I know the company, and
I know how much emphasis Kobe puts on serving the
communities that help make his business grow. Every time I
turn around, literally every time I turn around, I hear
from him that he's going to this charity tournament or

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that charity tournament. He's got another one tomorrow that he's
got to go to at Northgate. He doesn't have to go.
He wants to go because he wants to give back.
And that guy gives till it hurts. He really does.
It's just just who he is. Kobe Stevens dot Com
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on Sports Talk seven ninety The Dougpike Show. Thank you
for listening. Certainly do appreciate it. I found I saw

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a picture that Captain Scott sent me a little while
ago of an absolute gully washer of a thunderstorm just
dumping rain out over the Gulf of Mexico or maybe
the bay somewhere. I'm not sure. It looks like the
golf boy and I'm all I said, and is just
said morning, Doug, and I wrote back, it's a cool shot.
It really is. The free boat wash. I see.

Speaker 3 (01:00:08):
Yeah.

Speaker 1 (01:00:08):
I bet he doesn't go anywhere near that thing, not
in whatever boat he's riding in right now, unless it's
unless its name includes a number larger than fifty as
goes the length of that boat. Holy cowed by the
way that snapper trick I was talking about. Sharky talked
about using a big giant men haden bigger than your

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hand years and years ago. The trick that a friend
of mine about a thirty five or forty year captain
who tended to be on the leader board or win
most red snapper tournaments for about fifteen years. His trick
was to go out and on the way out or beforehand,

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hold on, let's see if we got Dave back, tee
him up. Let's try it. M Hey, Dave, let's try again.

Speaker 3 (01:01:00):
Hey.

Speaker 5 (01:01:00):
Yeah, I'm out here standing in the middle.

Speaker 1 (01:01:01):
Of the street.

Speaker 5 (01:01:04):
Yeah, I'm standing out here looking at the whiskey clouds
over here. I'm not on the lake. I was there earlier.
It was it was I had a real good time.
I caught one perch. It was small, but I'm going
to try to hang on to it and put it
in my bubble thing, you know, iterator I may use
it for a bait later on. But hey, uh no,
Sharky Man, Captain Sharky. I met him. I met him

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so many times, you know, and he's very, very good.
I got to hang out with him at the fishing shows.
And then my wife and I we went by that
resort over there that he's got in. Well, we didn't
get to go in, but it's beautiful. Well it wasn't
actually opened over Oh okay, it's been a while back. Yeah,
but his mother, His mother was there and I met

(01:01:49):
her at the fishing show and then you know, then
she met my wife. So I mean it was all cool.
But yeah, and thanks for that deal. On in dolphins,
I call him dolphin fish.

Speaker 1 (01:02:00):
You can call them whatever you want. They're they're mahi mahi,
their dolphin, they're dorodo. They're cool and they're tasty. That's
that suns them up.

Speaker 5 (01:02:09):
Hey, what else you can talk about is because you
were talking about going out offshore in that cans that
cans or number one. No, yeah, they are, man, I
tell you what they u When I went offshore this
one time, Uh, there was twenty five of us on
the boat, and I started talking with this young man

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and then the next thing you know, I'm up there
in the wheelhouse, sure you know, looking at the looking
at the computer and all that stuff. Yeah, I mean
I had my hands almost on the wheel but I
didn't want to touch nothing really, but all right, but anyway, anyway,
it was looking out that front window of a ship.

Speaker 1 (01:02:49):
Like that or you know, Yeah, it's kind of cool,
isn't it.

Speaker 5 (01:02:52):
Yeah, And then uh, then that de can hooked me up.
And I believe I told you on that trip right there,
I called uh, he kept hooking me up on my
rod Riel and we were dropping way down with about
a one pound weight. I know it was heavy. And
uh and I taught two red snapper, Uh like thirteen

(01:03:14):
one was thirteen or thirteen plus?

Speaker 1 (01:03:17):
Wow?

Speaker 5 (01:03:17):
Yeah, it was yeah, it was unreal.

Speaker 6 (01:03:21):
Oh.

Speaker 5 (01:03:21):
And then on the gun safety, I believe I told
you before. I got that Saturday Night special and you
know it's got six Uh, it's a revolver, yeah, and
I only put only put five in there, and I
keep it on the you know, with one not in
there because I actually did it actually did fall out
of my hoster, which I didn't have it buttoned up right. Yeah,

(01:03:42):
and it hit the floor. But luckily you can't shoot
that thing. It doesn't have a hammer on it. I
mean the only way you can, Yeah, the only way
you can fire it is if you pull that Yeah.
It's not no hair trigger is you know? So anyway,
that's about it.

Speaker 1 (01:04:00):
Well, that's good. That's a lot, man, that's a lot.
Putting the sack.

Speaker 5 (01:04:04):
And again right now, man, there's the whisky clouds out
here going out here, and you know, it's it's really nice,
you know, and Uh, I gotta go. I gotta go
back to tomorrow tomorrow for my doctor's points. But that's okay.
Maybe I'm not gonna have to go much more good.
I'm using everything.

Speaker 1 (01:04:25):
They'll boot you out of there soon, you'll.

Speaker 5 (01:04:27):
Be okay, that's what I'm talking about. You know, I
don't have to carry my gun around when I'm walking
around here.

Speaker 1 (01:04:33):
All okay, I'll see man audios. So you know, I
was gonna talk about that snapper trick from years ago
when Sharky was on the phone, but I wanted Sharky
to have that time to explain how he's doing it
now and the the strategy that this guy I'm trying
to remember, God, I can't remember his name. It's not

(01:04:54):
it's not there for me now. If I think of
it between nine ten o'clock, I'll remind you, or I'll
tell you. What he would do is either beforehand there
were places down there. Most of the big bait shops
in Galveston or in Surfside or anywhere else will have
not just live shrimp and dead shrimp and Man Hayden,

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they'll have offshore baits for sale. Offshore up to and
including especially if you get around a place where all
the sportfish boats go. The really big boats are like
Galveston Yacht Base and something like that. You can walk
in and you can buy whole banita. You can buy
big chunks of meat to hang off hooks offshore. And

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what he would do is buy a couple of frozen
banita and then troll for him a little bit on
the way out to where he was gonna suit snapperfish.
And whether he had to use the fresh or the
frozen one way or the other, he would carve a
slab of banita meat off of those fish that would

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be at least as big as a softball, I mean,
like what Sharky's got. Plus make it a sandwich of
or make it five layers of that big shad, and
the heavy skin on that big chunk of benito would
serve to hold the circle hook in place. Even though,

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just like Sharky was talking about, you just feel this
tap as all those little bitty snappers come running around
there to try and get a little piece of the action,
get a little snack. Well, when that big snapper shows up,
that's when everything just went quiet. Just there's not a you,
You're not feeling anything anymore, and then it's like count

(01:06:44):
to five and the rod just down it goes. It
seems like that all those little fish are grabbing and tugging,
and the rod tips is just barely twitching. You can
feel it in the line, but just barely. There's just
they're not big enough to do anything to that giant
chunk of bait. And then the fish comes along that
is big enough to do something to it, aka giant

(01:07:05):
just swallowing hole, grabs onto it, puts it in his mouth,
turns to swim back into the cover under a big
rock somewhere, and now it's your job to keep him
out of the rocks. That's fun fishing right there, man.
And it was, boy, it was so just like Sharky said,
you have so patient. You have to be so you
just have to resist the temptation to try to set

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the hook until the rod actually doubles over. And I'm
talking about something that looks a big around as a broomstick.
And now all of a sudden, it's just pointed toward
the water. You got the butt section pointing toward the
horizon and the tip is pointing down just to the bottom.
That's when you know you got a big old snapper
on the line. Holy cow, just yap through that little

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story all the way to hear by the way, there
was speaking of dorados very quickly before we go to break.
I saw a video the other day of a dorado
that was being opened up. It had been caught, and
it was gonna be gonna be eating a big one,
a very big one. And excuse me if you're eating breakfast.
But anyway, they opened that fish up and started pulling

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out little baby sea turtles that were still kicking. This
dorado had gotten close enough during the great migration of
baby turtles back into the ocean, gotten close enough to
snatch up about a dozen of them, and then it
had taste for a lure, I suppose, and grab that,

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and the baby turtles got put back, I think, best
as I can remember. I think they were all still
flipping around. Maybe a couple of them had succumbed at
that point, but that's something else that I don't know.
Maybe somebody should make a little baby sea turtle lure
and throw it out there. I would be man, I
would love to see video of somebody catching a dorado

(01:08:57):
or anything on a baby sea turtle lure, because you
know those fisher're eating them, you know they are. They
eat anything that moves in front of them. That'd be interesting.
Timber Creek Golf Club'd be a pretty interesting place to
go today if you're looking to get in at least
eighteen and if you're tough enough, twenty seven holes of
fantastic fun, relaxing golf. And by relaxing golf, I mean

(01:09:20):
you're not probably at any point in anywhere on that
property any of those twenty seven holes gonna feel like
it's an unfair request that the course is making of
you to hit a shot into a place that you
couldn't hit a bucket of balls into. It's fun, it's
relaxing now there is. It's not like it's a cakewalk. Okay,

(01:09:41):
there are bunkers, there are water features that are gonna
keep you on your toes, but you're not gonna feel like, God,
I just got beat up playing that place.

Speaker 3 (01:09:51):
No.

Speaker 1 (01:09:51):
It's fun, and the more you play it, the more
fun it gets. Because you learned the little idiosyncrasies of
the course and that helps you. You're gonna shoot better
scores on a course you like, and you're gonna love
timber Creek FM. Twenty three point fifty one in Friends
with a few miles west of the golf Freeway twenty
seven holes. Like I said that, they're all different too.

(01:10:13):
It's not like you just rubber stamp cookie cutter. Here's
another one of those things. No, they're all a little
in their own way, a little bit different. There's some
elevation change out there there. Like I said, there's the water,
and there's a little bit of sand here, a little there.
But with a little bit of work, maybe a little
help from the teaching staff at the JJ Woods Golf
Academy there at timber Creek, you can miss all that

(01:10:36):
stuff and have a great time. Good food in the grill,
good instruction from jj Woods, good people in the pro shop,
good people on the course, all of whom want you
to have a good time. Make your tea time right now.
Timber Creek goolf Club dot com. That's timber Creek Golf
Club dot com. Riceland Waterfowl Club Teal are showing up.

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It's kind of a big deal around here, and Teal
are the deal. Well, there's dove season on September one,
and then immediately almost immediately behind that, we're gonna have
teal season, and we have some teal. That full moon
helped them navigate their way down from wherever the heck
they were two or three days ago, and they're bouncing
around the bays, they're bouncing around the prairie. Not a

(01:11:20):
ton of them yet, but the ton will get here.
The tons of teal will get here soon enough, hopefully
in time for opening day, and we'll have some open
water out there. Riceland Waterfowl Club's gonna have a ton
of water for teal hunting. They had a great teal
hunting season last year and anticipate another one this year.
Because Riceland Waterfowl Club knows how to manage all the

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properties it has to make sure all the hunters who
are members of Riceland Waterfowl Club have a great shot
at great duck hunting all the way through the season,
all the way through. David pruittt owns the place. This
is his fiftieth year five zero. He has been running
and operating Riceland Waterfowl Club since he was a late teenager.

(01:12:05):
For heaven's sakes, that's what he wanted to do. He
knew it, and he's done it, and he's done it
well for fifty years if you're duck hunting last year
wasn't super good. If you're duck hunting last year, you
might have been a club member somewhere, but you always
felt like you got the short end of the stick.
Riceland Waterfowl Club's got you covered. There's no guided hunting

(01:12:27):
on any of their properties. It's only members in their guests,
which is great there are. He has a system that
he's perfected over fifty years that make sure that all
the groups that are involved get equal shot every day
at where they're gonna hunt the next day. You find
out the night before. You don't have to go meet

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in the middle of some little tiny town out there
on the prairie and waste a half an hour extra
driving time just getting there, and then have to turn
around and drive halfway across the prairie again to get
where you're going. You know that night before where you're
hunting the next day, so you can make your plans,
tell all your buddies to meet you there, drop a
pin on a map somewhere. I don't know how to

(01:13:09):
do all that. We used to just have to use
handwritten maps, but it's so easy and so good. Now
all those blinds almost every blind he has is just
short walk from the road where you can park and
get out, go to the blind, and then send somebody
back to move the vehicles later. They have a quarter
mile between all their blinds. And I'm talking about more

(01:13:32):
water than I could possibly ever hunt in ten seasons.
He has got it mapped down. He's already talking about
water for next season. He plans that far ahead to
make sure everybody he's taken care of gets taken care of.
You want great duck hunting this year, now or never,
Riceland Waterfowl Club, You're fast losing the opportunity to be

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part of it this year because they're filling up. This
is the time when the taler here. Oh oh, well,
I gotta find a place to go duck hunting. You
better find Riceland Waterfowl Club, and you better do it soon.
Ricelandwaterfowl Club dot com. Ricelandwaterfowl Club dot com. Nine thirty
nine on Sports Talk seven ninety The Dougpike Show. Thank
you for listening, certainly do appreciate it. Seven one three

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two one two five seven ninety. Email me from We're
at Dougpike at iHeartMedia dot com. Still looking at some
pretty nice water along the beachfront. As far as calmness goes,
I can't see the color that well on most of
the cameras. Let me see if I can sneak a
peak at daylight down around the surfside jetty somewhere or

(01:14:41):
surfside beach. That's the one I've got up right now,
take a little peak. Oh, it's so pretty down there.
Holy cow, let's aget. Now there's rain on the camera.
Interestingly enough, And if you recall when we were talking
to Sharky, right toward the end of the conversation, he
talked about a big ramm or bram or slammer of
a I'm gonna go to the weather channel and see

(01:15:01):
if I can get some radar up here. See what's
going on down there along the coast. I don't you know,
if it's gonna be calm and they're little spotty pop
up showers. Okay, I can live with pop up showers.
I have no problem with that. Let's see what it
looks like down there. I'm gonna move the map a
little bit. Yeah, there's a there's a pretty good little

(01:15:23):
piece of rain right now around between Texas City and Galveston,
and it kind of lightens as it goes northwest up
to League City. There's a little bitty sell north of Pasadena,
and then there's a bunch of stuff out in the

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Gulf of Mexico, all little and you if you left
the Galveston jetties right now, you wouldn't run into what
I'm looking at. For probably unless you have a super
fast boat. It probably takes you four four hours to
get to where those storms are, so they're not really
a factor. Let me fast forward this. Most of that

(01:16:06):
stuff is generally moving shoreward and looks like it's well,
just just the time you think it's gonna turn into something,
it falls apart about one o'clock this afternoon. It looks
like we're in the clear for the rest of the day.
So that's good news right now, though there's all kinds
of pop up stuff. Yeah, there really is. And I

(01:16:28):
wish I could tell you it's gonna stay, it's gonna
all go away soon, but it may not. Let's get
faux pro on the phone here for a couple of minutes.
See what's up, faux Pro.

Speaker 3 (01:16:39):
What's going on? Man?

Speaker 5 (01:16:40):
What is Douglas?

Speaker 1 (01:16:42):
You know, I'm feeling pretty good. I got a little
sleep last night and just kind of chilling, relaxing. Might
go out and work these bass over again this afternoon.

Speaker 3 (01:16:52):
I might.

Speaker 1 (01:16:53):
There's a chance I might run down to the beach.
I don't know if I'm that tough because I have
to wake up. I have to wake up early again
tomorrow morning.

Speaker 3 (01:17:01):
But if I did, we'll let you know what to catchy.

Speaker 6 (01:17:04):
That's my one day to sleep a little bit. I
have my seven fifty five alarm that those offices, but
them fight's about to come on, wake up.

Speaker 1 (01:17:12):
I appreciate coffee, Yeah, I get that coffee gut. So
you had kind of a mixed bag Grand Slam yesterday
or day before? Day before, wasn't it?

Speaker 6 (01:17:22):
Yeah? Day before? Yeah, I had a buddy buy some. Man,
I'm getting a little old with the freezer because he
he was a little bit like me. He'll go out
there and you know, sometimes I'll stock up in a
runner time.

Speaker 3 (01:17:31):
You know.

Speaker 6 (01:17:32):
Yeah, I'll get through the get through the bass.

Speaker 3 (01:17:35):
Like a bear exactly.

Speaker 6 (01:17:39):
But like last week, I went out and found these
fish and I kept six big ones for Angie to
make our famous coffee cockos. And you have to get
back up here to get them.

Speaker 1 (01:17:48):
Yes, I do.

Speaker 6 (01:17:49):
But well, yeah, we went back up there and I
was kind of scooping out in the in the creek
for him to catch white bass, and then I was
I was dabbed over my thirteen foot coffee pole in
the bushes, and and uh, that's what led me to
call because a lot of people this time of year
get frustrated because the fishing gets tough. And if you
got a decent depth fighter, you don't have to have

(01:18:11):
what I got, use it. Just a decent debt fighter.
Turn your sensitivity up and your death finder will show
you the thermal cline.

Speaker 1 (01:18:19):
Yeah.

Speaker 6 (01:18:20):
Yeah, that's basically where the water temperature you know, has
this break change lips in the thermocla where we were
fishing was six feet deep. So even though it was
four thousand degrees, every croppy we caught, even if the
tree was in fifteen them croppie were suspended six feet
and above. Several were you drop your gig two people
below the water poom wow, frox fro. Tip of the

(01:18:42):
week to fish above or at the thermocline. No matter
what depth of water is fresh water fishing, at least,
I don't know how that works worth.

Speaker 1 (01:18:49):
They salt water are they hanging above it in the
warmer water or just below it in the cooler water.

Speaker 6 (01:18:58):
They're actually hanging above it, and that wrmer cline. You
get above that thermer cline the oxygen content just to teriorate. Yeah, yeah,
and they stayed just at it. A lot of a
lot of a lot of the bass I seemed were
right at it, But the croppie were staying. They were
staying up. You know, a fish or two above it.
I guess you told maybe flit or two above it. Yeah,
But it made easy pickings because you just dropped a

(01:19:19):
jig about two foot down the tree and you didn't
have to go all the way down to the bottom
of thirteen foot winter time to be just the opposite,
they'll be on the bottom.

Speaker 1 (01:19:26):
But I think you heard me talking to you about
my bass fishing yesterday and how i'd actually finally caught
a few because I had to. I had to just
swallow my pride and drop a worm in between some weeds,
and but it worked. I was standing on a little
bridge and I made two or three casts with this
worm and had nothing going on. But there was this

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really defined vegetation edge coming about ten feet off the bank. Okay,
and we're talking two and a half three feet of water.
That's all it is. But nonetheless, it had a nice
shady spot for him to be on. And I just
let about four feet of six feet a line maybe
off the rod tip, and I dropped that worm in
there and shook it once and just boom, here we go.

(01:20:08):
This fight wasn't very long, but it was a nice fish.

Speaker 2 (01:20:12):
I love.

Speaker 6 (01:20:13):
I love flipping and punching that pick stuff. I mean,
get you a get you, uh, And I would say,
you know, you got the barber stopper deals they got,
they got high taples. Don't get your barber shop on
your line.

Speaker 1 (01:20:22):
Yeah.

Speaker 6 (01:20:23):
Put you about where you're at flipping from the bank.
Put you about a three quarter outs flipping weight, okay,
and then and then smell hook you a four off
flipping hook. Smell hook it you smell hook it. That
don't make that when that weight hits that hook, that
hook a kick up at a forty five gringle the
roof of their mouth, oh boy.

Speaker 3 (01:20:40):
And uh.

Speaker 6 (01:20:41):
Then put you like some kind of beaver creature top
bait on there just so along the bank and flip
it in the thickest stuff you can find. And you
might you might lord discover something that later.

Speaker 1 (01:20:50):
Yeah yeah, you know, I I know, I know for
a fact because I've caught one, and then my old
golf buddy, Billy ray Brown's caught one. He we share
a fence line with the other club, shadow Hawk, and
he's a shadow Hawk guy. He's kind of up toy,
you know.

Speaker 6 (01:21:04):
Uh.

Speaker 1 (01:21:05):
But I'm on my side of the fence, he's on
his side of the fence. And both of us have
caught double digit bass out of that lake, that one lake,
so we know they're there.

Speaker 3 (01:21:14):
Yeah.

Speaker 1 (01:21:14):
Oh yeah, there's no question about either one of those fish.
And so yeah, I may try it, but I'm gonna
have to beef everything up, I really am, because there's
just no you can't get vertical over most of that
grass without wading into the water. And we can't do
that out there.

Speaker 3 (01:21:31):
Yeah you got.

Speaker 6 (01:21:32):
I used to use a fifty to sixty five down
braid and you just stick them and heave them up
on the bank. What I need to do is take
you the curse. Yeah, for Houston County practice run. We're
all we do is flip flip the reeds and cattails,
and I'll really need from hard baits you do that
for a day, I don't.

Speaker 4 (01:21:50):
Know, man.

Speaker 1 (01:21:51):
Yeah, maybe so though, now now that I've now that
I've had a taste again, you know, I may just
leave the hard base at the house this time. I
gotta go make a break here. Dad, gumm it. It's
always good to hear.

Speaker 2 (01:22:08):
For me.

Speaker 1 (01:22:11):
Holy mackerel, Holy Macaroni. He's a good man, he really is.
Opened his house to me once when I was kind
of trying to figure out where I was gonna stay,
to coordinate a little fishing with him, and then the
next morning I had to go play in at the
I had to go play golf over at Whispering Pines

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in advance of the Spirit International year ago, and he said,
just come stay with us. No big deal, no big deal. Well,
the big deal for me was Angie's cooking. Holy cow.
I'm not trying to create a line outside the door,
but that is some good food, a some very good food.

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Seven three two two five seven ninety. On the way
out here, Champions Tree one more time, I'm gonna remind
you that if you if you haven't had your trees
looked at since Barrel last year, get them looked at
again in case we get another one of those things
in here. I hope we don't, but if we do,
your trees are gonna have to ride it out, just

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like they did last year. I got Irwin Costellanos, the
owner of the company certified arborist here, and his son Robin.
They're the ones who are gonna come look at your
trees and make sure that they're safe, make sure that
they're healthy, make sure that their root systems are strong.
One of the biggest problems that Erwin explained to me
is when people overwater. He sees these front yards that

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are beautiful. They've got a lot of elaborate plants in
there in the garden around the trees, and a lot
of just all this exotic, beautiful color in there. But
all of that sucks up a lot of water. So
the homeowner ends up overwatering that stuff, and in overwatering that,

(01:23:56):
the tree also gets overwatered, and then the root system
develops fungus that weakens it. You don't realize it unless
you know what you're looking at in the tree. You
can't tell that you're overwatering just by looking at the tree.
Probably you and I can't, But an arborist can. And
if they see that kind of an issue, they'll tell

(01:24:17):
you about it. If they see that your trees need
a little pruning, they'll tell you about it. He kind
of snickered when I told him, usually they cut those
things off of the tops of the main branches there,
the main limbs, because it just looks so weird. He said, No,
that's the tree's way of protecting those bigger limbs like
that from the scorching summer sun. I didn't know. I

(01:24:40):
didn't know tree could get sunburned, but they can. I
learned a lot from these guys, and you'll learn a
lot from them too. Get them out to your house
if in worst case scenario, they have to take an
entire tree out. They happen to own a tree farm,
all native Texas trees all ready, and just you gotta
figure out which one you want. They'll help you with that.
They'll go get a tree, whatever size you want, bring

(01:25:02):
it down, PLoP it right down, and where that old
one came out from. They'll take care of the soil
and make sure everything's ready for that new tree to
come in there. And then just get as big as
that old one did. But stay happy and healthy, just
like you'll be to have a new tree Champions Tree
Preservation two eight one three two oh eighty two oh
one two eight one three two zero eighty two zero one.

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Or go to the website championstree dot com. That's Championstree
dot com. Bum boom ba boom ba boom ba boom
what is that? Enter the sam oh Enter Center. Send man, Okay,
let's move on? Shall we shall?

Speaker 2 (01:25:39):
We?

Speaker 1 (01:25:40):
Folk pro just sent me something that I never would
have expected to see in a text message. Well I
kind of did from him knowing him. He's somebody who
accepts challenges. And when I talked about possibly creating a
sea turtle fishing lure, lo and behold there are sea

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turtle fishing lures.

Speaker 4 (01:26:06):
This thing?

Speaker 1 (01:26:07):
Where can I get to it?

Speaker 2 (01:26:08):
Now?

Speaker 1 (01:26:08):
This is some weirdo ad. Oh, I can skip the
ad here. It is the sea turtle, the green sea
turtle fishing lure. The front, it's got a head, it's
got kind of big flippers on the front. It's got
little like spinner bait blades back where the rear legs
would be. Oh my goodness, I'm seeing it in a

(01:26:30):
pool and it just wobbles and flips like a baby
sea turtle man. If I was a doratto, i'd smoke
that thing. I gotta get me one of those. I
need Sharky. I need to get about a half a
dozen of them and send them to Sharky. Let me
see how much these things cost. Hold on, I can
find it. I don't want to subscribe to anything. I'm

(01:26:52):
gonna have to do some further research beyond my phone
to get to them, but I'll figure out what they cost.
I'm gonna send that to Sharky. Holy cow, and just
I gotta see video of throwing those out in front
of those dorado and I guarantee you the big ones,
a big one would come out and snap it up
after what I saw. And I'm now I'm kind of

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wondering what other fish would eat them. I bet king
mackerel would eat them. I bet well any any predator
fish out there, especially the little ones. That's be kind
of like soft shell crab. You never know what you're
gonna find on the internet. I didn't think that was
a thing. I really would not have thought that was
a thing. A green seed. They're very specific too, green

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sea turtle lure. There are others that faux pro included
from different companies, but they just look like it just
looked like somebody's pet box turtle. Little ones maybe twice
the size of the little teeny tiny ones you can
buy in a pet store starter pet. And No, don't

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get any ideas about going and buying little green turtles
out of pet store and using them for bait. That's
just that's just wrong. Would you agree, Frankie, that would
be that.

Speaker 3 (01:28:10):
No.

Speaker 1 (01:28:12):
I could see using goldfish. I've used goldfish for bait
that I bought at a pet store. Yeah, there you go,
but not little not those little green turtles. They're too cute.
But I guarantee a bass would absolutely smoke one of
those things if it knew what it was. No, I
think the most productive opportunity to throw a turtle lure

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would be in saltwater, be offshore, in salt water, somewhere
where the freshly hatched little turtles are heading on out
to see. I always saw it when I watched them.
You see the videos of them flip flopping their way.
And when I was a kid down in Pompino Beach, Florida,
we were down there during the summer and that was

(01:28:57):
a nesting season for the turtles and we would walk
the beach at night and watch these big giant females
come up and lay their eggs and whatnot. We were
never there for the actual return of the babies. That
was a little later in the year. I'm not exactly
sure when, but man, oh man, I thought that once
those little turtles kind of made it to the ocean.

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It never dawned on me really that something was gonna
eat them, something was gonna just smoke them and gobble
them up. But now that I know, I understand why
the lure is there, and I understand the allure of
maybe catching a fish on one of them. Yeah, we'll

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have to think about.

Speaker 3 (01:29:40):
That all right.

Speaker 1 (01:29:41):
To summarize great week coming up ahead, there's a chance
for rain all the way through the next four or
five days. There's a big old thing out in the
in the far eastern Atlantic Ocean that we kind of
need to keep an eye on. Hopefully it's gonna follow
the rest of them and kind of turn north as
it crosses. I'll be back here Tuesday, one way or

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the other for fifty plus over on KPRC, and I'll
be right back in this chair at Sports Talk seven
ninety for my show comes Saturday morning, and somewhere down
the line, I'm actually going to take a vacation before
I leave more days on the table like I did
last year. Stay safe, get outside. The tail is showing up.
The fishing is getting better and better because of when

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we got rid of the wind, we still got the heat.
Get outside, play some golf, half one with your family.
I'll see you next week. Audios