The Doug Pike Show 8-17-2024

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Speaker 1 (00:01):
This is the Dougpike Show, brought to you by American
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Speaker 2 (00:10):
Now Here's Doug Pike.

Speaker 3 (00:12):
Saturday Morning edition of the program starts right now. Whether
or not I'm connected to the internet and doing what
I'm trying to get done in here, never mind about that.

Speaker 2 (00:23):
I'll get to it.

Speaker 3 (00:24):
And I do want to push one button real quickly though.
I want to see that that's the Iwind Surf page.
I want to look at the wind or lack thereof,
up and down the Texas coast pretty much. Yeah, holy cow,
lots of single digits. Lots of single digits, which means

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a couple of things. It means that if you wanted
to go fish the surf this morning, and I'm going
to bring up another website to double check on that
real quickly, it's probably not the worst idea you could have.

Speaker 2 (01:00):
Get saltwater Recon up and take a look at that.

Speaker 3 (01:03):
It also means that if you boy I know he's
going out this morning.

Speaker 2 (01:10):
I heard him talking about it a little while ago.

Speaker 3 (01:11):
My buddy Cliff Webb down there and in Corpus he's
fishing the surf down there today and sounded like a
kid in a candy store on the way into here.
I was listening to him and my buddy down the
dial go at it, and yeah.

Speaker 2 (01:26):
He'll probably get him, He'll probably Okay.

Speaker 3 (01:29):
Surfside cam from Saltwater recon looks pretty good, if only
if only whoever's manning the camera right now would flip
it over to the beach front shot. I'm gonna go
to the surfside beach and see what that looks like.
That'll be a little bit better and more informative for
our purposes here, and hopefully it will load within here

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we go. Oh that was quick. I'm not the same shot.
It hadn't cycled yet. Come on, come on, surf side
Jeddy beach or surfside beach.

Speaker 4 (02:02):
No.

Speaker 3 (02:02):
I went right back to the that camera may be
down still. I think that's the issue. That camera may
be down in any event. Up and down the beach
from pretty much Sabine to the Rio Grande, there isn't
double digit wind anywhere, which, in addition to meaning you
can pretty much fish wherever you want. Today, it's gonna

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be hot, it's gonna be miserable.

Speaker 2 (02:29):
It's August.

Speaker 3 (02:30):
The middle of August in Southeast Texas or South Texas.
Pick one you like, and it would be more surprising
now if the wind were blowing like it had been
for quite some time up until this stretch of hot
and calm.

Speaker 2 (02:46):
But this is normal August weather now.

Speaker 3 (02:49):
The one thing that isn't on the horizon just yet
but may get there pretty soon is the traditional It's
it's never a guarantee, but it's been pretty much.

Speaker 2 (03:01):
You can almost bet on it.

Speaker 3 (03:02):
There's gonna be some sort of hard rain phenomenon between
now and September one. I can remember at least as
many kind of wet, sloppy, muddy opening days of dub
season back when I was guiding, and then for quite
some time thereafter, almost as many muddy ones as dusty,

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dry ones, and neither of them is fun. If we
would all have to just cross our fingers and throw
salt over our shoulders and wish upon a star and
do all of that stuff, do all of that stuff
to get somehow a perfect morning for opening day needed

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to be. It would need to be cooler, and it
would be granted, it would be September, but the cool
part of September are the last if You're lucky the
last two days of it.

Speaker 2 (03:56):
Until then, it's not gonna cool off at all.

Speaker 3 (03:59):
There might be something come rolling down from the from
the north and headed this way and dropping snow, even
in the Rocky Mountains. But by the time it gets
to about I twenty, that just evaporates and poof, it
goes away. It goes away, Melvin, you and I were
talking about that traffic this morning. By the way, if
anybody's on their way from south to north on fifty

(04:22):
nine and just humming right along, you've been through Richmond,
You've been through Rosenberg. You're coming up on the Grand Parkway. Man,
now you're at the fountains and you're still racing. You
you can go as fast as you want because there's
nobody on the freeway. Prepare for a change of plans.
Where is that construction actually going on?

Speaker 2 (04:44):
Melvin?

Speaker 3 (04:44):
Do you know I exit before Chimney Rock Okay, yeah,
the Neutral Ground, Well, you know, yeah, service road over there.
I bounced at Hillcroft and then went south. Like I
was telling you earlier, I went south to bel Air
and then went back east to six ' ten and
came up that way.

Speaker 2 (05:03):
And it really wasn't it.

Speaker 3 (05:05):
Didn't take off much time, or it didn't add much time,
if any really, and it certainly not if I had
been stuck in that gosh awful mess where the first
first barrels I saw were back around bel air maybe,
and it just into the barrels and a big yellow
arrow pointing to the right, and there were barrels starting

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to block the first lane, and then you could see
that they clearly blocked the first lane. I thought, well,
that's not bad if there's just one lane closed up.
And then somewhere, I'm not sure exactly where, but somewhere
I saw a sign that said four lanes. And as
soon as I saw four and lanes together, then I

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was out of there. I had to bail and I
got off just at the right time. Like I was
telling you earlier, I got off on the actual ramp
to get off. And when people were realizing that they
might be stuck where they were for a day or two,
they started bailing out and going going off road between
the freeway and the service road what we call the

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feeder here. And it was a mini van who had
attempted to follow the paths of everybody else, and that
mini van had managed somehow to kind of high center
himself and was just teeter tottering back and forth, wheels spinning,
dust flying up everywhere, like, oh no, you're the person

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behind him, you know, the person behind him. Oh my god,
I just got out of one mess, and now I'm
backing another. This guy's throwing dust and rocks at my windshield.
That guy may have to call, might have to call
VIP Auto Glass before it's all over. Of course, never know,
you know, that's why the numbers should be in your phone.

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Like I've told you before. If you get a crazy,
get a little rock ship, get a little rock chip
in your windshield, call them that morning. They'll probably be
able to come out and fix it that day. I
confirmed that with Lisa, the woman who owns the company
with her husband, and she said, yeah, our technicians are
all over town all day long, and if we got
one anywhere close to you, we'll swing them by there

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and fix that rock ship for you in about twenty minutes.

Speaker 2 (07:20):
That's pretty good.

Speaker 3 (07:21):
If you need a whole windshield, they'll do that probably
in a day day and a half.

Speaker 2 (07:27):
It took two for me, but only because we we.

Speaker 3 (07:29):
Had the building management had an issue with their insurance.
Uh paperwork that the guy brought the first day, and
there was just some I not dotted or tea not cross.

Speaker 2 (07:40):
But they got it all worked out and we got
it done the next day. It was no big deal.

Speaker 3 (07:43):
Seven one three two one two seven ninety Email me
Doug Pike at iHeartMedia dot com.

Speaker 2 (07:50):
Who's on? Who's on? Two? Is that ready for me?
Can I go get it? Not yet? Okay?

Speaker 3 (07:56):
Oh y'all are y'all are plotting something, aren't you? I
know what you're doing?

Speaker 2 (08:00):
I know who that?

Speaker 3 (08:01):
Oh he bailed on me? Really all right, Dave, be
that way. Let me go check email real quick. There
were a couple of things I wanted to look at.
I'll be I'm very proud to let everyone know that
I was really fighting email overload, if you will, for

(08:24):
so long, for so so long, I get I don't know,
I don't know. It's maybe between one hundred and two
hundred emails a day, and so my inbox had cluttered
up pretty badly, not as badly as an old golf
pro friend of mine who actually had something like thirteen
or fourteen thousand unread emails in his basket and swore

(08:46):
in his inbox and told me for sure he was
going to get to all of them, not total.

Speaker 2 (08:51):
That was just the unread ones.

Speaker 3 (08:53):
He and he runs a large or he ran then
a pretty big, big deal country club, and I needed
to use his computer once. Anyway, the load on the
short it was mine had gotten up to thirty six
hundred I think thirty six thirty seven hundred, and this
past weekend, after the show, I sat down at my
other desk and just started whittling and whittling and whittling

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it got it down to eleven hundred, which made me
pretty happy. Honestly, I felt pretty good about that, and
I was going to try to get it under a
thousand today, and yesterday, being my new day off, I
deliberately didn't look at my email that often, didn't look
at my phone that often yesterday, and didn't pay attention
to what was going on. Come in here this morning,

(09:38):
hook it all up. Thirteen fifty thank you very much.

Speaker 2 (09:42):
Two hundred and fifty emails since yesterday morning that I
haven't killed that I didn't get rid of it.

Speaker 3 (09:49):
I got rid of some yesterday. Now they're not all
business emails, they're not all really must do right now
they're not something that needs immediate attention, but they all
have to be dealt with, and I do try to
make sure that I'm not overlooking something really really good.

(10:10):
It happens, I'll get them down again. At some point.
The software we have will kill them after two years,
so I don't have to really worry too much. They figure,
if you've left something in there for two years, you're
either going to put it in a different folder or
we're going to take it out of there because it's
taken up room. I'll get there, and many of them

(10:32):
I hold on to for good reasons. By the way
they're from. They have some piece of information that I
really want to hold on to, and I think, Okay,
I'll put that away later because I'm working on something
else right now, and that later part doesn't come out
that often. New fishing and hunting licenses are available since

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two days ago. If you're young, be grateful for all
the opportunities afforded by a super combo hunting and fishing license.
For what amounts basically to the price of a decent
cheeseburger a month, that's all it costs you to hunt
and fish in the state of Texas for an entire year.
If you're a senior like me, the super combo is

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gonna set you back no more than a leu ann
platter a month. And as much as I like their
baked almondine, the chance to hunt and fish legally in
Texas for a whole month it's worth a whole lot
more to me than that. So even if the server
does slip me an extra dinner roll every now and then,
kind of like those. If you don't hunt, if you

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don't fish, but you still like being outdoors, then by
all means, please go ahead and buy a hunting and
fishing license and support that. It doesn't cost anything to
go birding, It doesn't cost anything to go hiking.

Speaker 2 (11:54):
You get that for free.

Speaker 3 (11:56):
You can walk around the woods of Texas in a
state park, national park, in a national forest, in a
whole lot of places for nothing, and you're probably gonna
see some wildlife if you're out there early and late.
Have you got there at the heat of the heat
of the day noon by not going to see much.

Speaker 2 (12:15):
Get out there at the crack of dawn.

Speaker 3 (12:16):
Stay till you can barely see anymore, and you'll see
You'll see animals, you'll see things you wouldn't have seen
if you stayed home and watched TV, certainly, And it's
just it's such a good investment in the state of Texas,
in our natural resources.

Speaker 2 (12:30):
It really really is. Dave, you got a hold on, Buddy.
I ran a little late now.

Speaker 3 (12:36):
I want to make sure that I give you plenty
of time when I get back on the way out.

Speaker 2 (12:41):
Your Rockets and Astros live.

Speaker 5 (12:43):
Here.

Speaker 2 (12:43):
We are Sports Talk seven ninety.

Speaker 1 (12:46):
The conversation continues this as The Doug Pike Show.

Speaker 3 (12:51):
All right, welcome back seven nineteen on Sports Talk seven
ninety The Doug Pike Show.

Speaker 2 (12:55):
Thank you for listening. Certainly, do appreciate it.

Speaker 3 (12:57):
On this this one May Quali Fi is hot. My
my threshold. If you've heard me talk about weather enough times,
and probably all of you are raising your hands, say yeh,
it's enough, Dug. But hot, I reserved for one hundred
degrees or more. If it's ninety nine, it's really warm.

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But it's not hot. And I'm pretty sure it was
hot yesterday. I think it was either yesterday or day
before when I got back into my car after hanging
around the golf course for a little while.

Speaker 2 (13:27):
Yeah, it was day before yesterday because yesterday we.

Speaker 3 (13:30):
Played and it wasn't that hot when I left, I
went late and got back in the car. And now
bear in mind this is on an asphalt parking lot,
so it gets a little boost. It was I think
in my car it said it was one o six,
one o seven something like that.

Speaker 2 (13:46):
Felt like one o six or one o seven. I'm
I don't, I don't really go for that whole thing
that feels like temperature. It either is or it isn't.
What's up, Dave?

Speaker 6 (13:57):
Well, I'm down to your port of Rands. It's probably
twenty minutes from Cliff Webb.

Speaker 2 (14:01):
Oh buddy, And why are you? Then? The bit next
question is why are you not fishing right now?

Speaker 6 (14:07):
Well, no, because I've been waiting to get on with you.
But we just got here and I'm hey, but I'm
looking at we're looking at the sun coming up. I
got the my gallfriend over here, she's entered, reclined taking
pictures of the sun coming.

Speaker 2 (14:21):
Up on the beach.

Speaker 6 (14:22):
Here, Yes, well right here to the beach man.

Speaker 7 (14:26):
Wow.

Speaker 6 (14:26):
And I got over here to my over here to
my lift. I'm looking at the sun coming up to
the east.

Speaker 8 (14:31):
Yep, to my lift. They got they got some.

Speaker 6 (14:34):
Travel trailers out here here, a generator going over there wherever.

Speaker 3 (14:37):
Yeah, nothing like that to break the silence hunting.

Speaker 6 (14:41):
Well, and then forty thousand golf carts from running around.
I've never seen so many golf courts of my wife.

Speaker 3 (14:47):
Yeah, that's kind of a fairly new phenomenon down there.
And uh, it's not one that I'm a real fan of,
to be honest.

Speaker 6 (14:56):
Well, what my gay friend here, See, she knows this
place the time. I mean she lived down here for
a while. Yeah, so she's kind of taking me to
all the different clicks and this and that, and well
we went to this one place and I'm gonna have
to send you some of the pictures. Man, it's a
what was the name of that restaurant, Moby Dick's restaurant

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over there. Man, they got so many legendary looking stuff
in there that were donated from a museum.

Speaker 2 (15:24):
It was ransom, that's all.

Speaker 5 (15:26):
Yeah.

Speaker 6 (15:27):
It was crazy about runs.

Speaker 2 (15:28):
And most importantly, Dave, how does the surf look? Is
it calm? Is it pretty?

Speaker 9 (15:33):
Well?

Speaker 6 (15:34):
Well, it's got a.

Speaker 2 (15:36):
Slow roll, yeah right now, that's about right.

Speaker 6 (15:39):
Yeah, it's a slow and it's got I'm standing about
twenty well, it's starting to come up. With't have to
pull up here because I think the tide's coming in
or something. Yeah, but it's a slow roll. So let's
say seventy five are let's say half a football field
or so out and it starts rolling and it's just
barely rolling in, and we met pull up about the water.

Speaker 2 (16:01):
The collar of the water. Is it pretty? Is it
pretty nice?

Speaker 6 (16:04):
And yeah, it looks it looks pretty greenish yef it
looks a little bit further out, it looks really nice.
You know what, what do they say? Green to the beach?
But I mean, I'm colored blind, so I can't really.

Speaker 8 (16:16):
Tell you that.

Speaker 6 (16:20):
But but I I can't see the white pomp And
you know, I do. I do do some artwork and
stuff like that. And I've been, uh, I've been trying
to master the art of drawing or painting and drawing it. Ye, waves,
waves coming here and yeah and uh but hey, oh man,
where I'm at right here, it looks like I got
a first gut right over here. Now, I'm not gonna

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wait out there. I just got I got a big weight,
and I just got some chad. I might thaw it out.
And I got a double drop.

Speaker 8 (16:48):
Line and I'm just gonna choke it out there and.

Speaker 6 (16:50):
Stick it in my rod. Hey, and I got a kite.
I bought me one of them kites. I'm gonna fly
a kite out here. I'm gonna go fly kite out
of here.

Speaker 2 (17:00):
You have kite to take your bait way out off shore. Well,
the it's not hardy.

Speaker 8 (17:04):
Then the weirds, no, the winds blowing the road.

Speaker 2 (17:08):
Okay, you don't want to drop a yet on the
on the highway or something.

Speaker 6 (17:11):
Okay, no, no, I'll tell you what these sand dunes
out here. And what's real nice too, is they got
places that you can go over here and go to
the restroom. They got garbageans out here and everything else.
So it's it's I'm doing some peel reportings. What I'm
trying to say.

Speaker 2 (17:27):
It sounds good to me. Yeah, keep it up. Man,
If you catch a fish, by all means, call me back.

Speaker 6 (17:32):
Okay, I will, and I uh then if anything in
the morning, I'll holler at you little you know, after
eight or something, and then we're gonna be heading back.
We gotta head back. Is I gotta go back to work? Okay?
All right, all right, I gotta go back to the real.

Speaker 2 (17:45):
World, all right, audios. Uh.

Speaker 3 (17:49):
He had a golden opportunity to say the real world,
you know, like r e E L. Yeah, that's where
he is right now, and I'm not. I'm in the
real r e A world r e a L world,
And he is in the r E L world, which
down there is really not a bad place to be.
I wish I'd had time to talk him into throwing
lures for a little while, because there's a good chance

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he could catch a really really good trout, might catch
a who knows, might even catch a snook down there
he's in. He's at ground zero, that stretch a coach
down there between him and cleft webb. Somewhere there are
some really big trouts Somewhere. There are a few snook Somewhere.
There are some little tarpin up tight to the beach

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early in the morning like this, And all you got
to do is put something they want in front of them,
and they will eat.

Speaker 2 (18:39):
I got tickled.

Speaker 3 (18:40):
I got an email from Pat Murray yesterday from over
at CCA. He was working on a story about top
three lures. If you could carry three lures and three
lures only for the rest of your life, to catch
speckl trout.

Speaker 2 (18:52):
What would they be?

Speaker 3 (18:53):
And one of them, just in honor of how good
they've treated me, it's treated me over the years, is
a skinter walk in a baby trout pattern.

Speaker 2 (19:05):
I just couldn't pass that up.

Speaker 3 (19:08):
And then another one, a second one was another hard
bait that served me well as much or more down
south than up here, but nonetheless it still works. And
that's just a straight up sea I's mirrorlure, and it's
kind of a pilchered pattern, which we don't have pilchures here,

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but it's close enough.

Speaker 2 (19:32):
Okay, it's close enough.

Speaker 3 (19:34):
And then the third one, and he had asked, he said, look,
just be really specific in all these selections, and I
gave model numbers on what I sent to him.

Speaker 2 (19:46):
But the long and the short of it is, I said,
on an eighth thousand screw lockhead, pretty much any salt
plastic just it doesn't matter. I'm not a I'm not
a super analytic.

Speaker 3 (20:02):
You can't convince me that a color won't work until
you're about two or three fish ahead of me, and
then I'll just change and throw what you're throwing. But
until then, I'll just I'll just look in the bag
and see find one that looks pretty. See what happens.
The best color I ever had. I had some some
baits that I dropped into a bag in haste, about
a dozen of each of two different colors, and they

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kind of blended in the heat and the mixture of
the everything was just right, and they kind of got
they took on characteristics of the other in color, and
they were They didn't look good. They didn't look like
anything fish eat but man oh man at the surf side, Jetty,

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I warm out on those things until I threw the
last one and it just finally fell apart.

Speaker 2 (20:51):
Brandon, what's going on?

Speaker 9 (20:53):
Good morning? I wasn't good news? Are you ready?

Speaker 2 (20:56):
I'm ready?

Speaker 9 (20:57):
My grandma moved from Riddleck to Houston.

Speaker 2 (21:01):
Awesome, Good for you, Good for you. We're gonna spend
a lot of time with her. You know.

Speaker 9 (21:08):
Yeah, not tonight, we're going to the game.

Speaker 2 (21:11):
Oh good? What how did it end up last night?

Speaker 3 (21:14):
Did we end up losing? I didn't see the I
didn't get to see the end. It wasn't looking good
when I turned it off. Oh well, you know, good run.
Now we're eight and two over the last ten games.
That's not the end of the world. We'll be all right,
We'll come back Seattle.

Speaker 2 (21:32):
Yeah. So, so where did she move from, Brandon?

Speaker 9 (21:35):
What do I darkun talk?

Speaker 4 (21:36):
Oh?

Speaker 2 (21:36):
Okay, okay, got here as soon as she could. Huh and.

Speaker 9 (21:43):
Uh I got solid.

Speaker 3 (21:45):
Oh okay, okay. Well, sounds like you're gonna be helping
take care of her. And that's a wonderful thing to do.

Speaker 2 (21:51):
Brandon.

Speaker 9 (21:51):
Tomorrow, Tomorrow and Monday, So Monday, and got you. And
it's gonna be coming home on Tuesday. Okay, are coming
to our house on Tuesday.

Speaker 2 (22:03):
So that's good, is she is? She gonna be ready
for all this heat we've got down here. Who and no,
you're your grandmother.

Speaker 9 (22:13):
No, I haven't worked at the podcast yet.

Speaker 3 (22:15):
Oh okay, Well we still got a little summer to go.
You know that from living here a long time.

Speaker 8 (22:20):
Huh.

Speaker 9 (22:21):
Yeah. How's your son?

Speaker 2 (22:22):
And he's doing great? You know, he started school again,
so there's that.

Speaker 3 (22:28):
And he's just he's running around to baseball practice and
hanging out with his friends and just living the dream,
just living the dream.

Speaker 9 (22:36):
Yeah.

Speaker 2 (22:37):
Well, yeah, I gotta get going.

Speaker 3 (22:40):
I'm at the top or at the bottom, at the
top of the hour or the bottom of the hour.

Speaker 2 (22:43):
I got to go make a commercial break here.

Speaker 5 (22:45):
Brandon.

Speaker 3 (22:45):
It's great to hear from you, though. Man, get the
astros a win tonight, will you?

Speaker 9 (22:51):
I will, okay and play for Grandma to from moving
to little walk from here.

Speaker 2 (22:58):
Absolutely, you got it, buddy.

Speaker 9 (23:00):
Hey, do I go to church.

Speaker 3 (23:02):
I haven't been in a while because I work on
Sunday mornings. But that doesn't change my faith.

Speaker 9 (23:08):
Believe me, if y'all go to church, play for play
for Grandma to we of it from say true. Actually, yeah, okay, I'll.

Speaker 2 (23:27):
Do that, Brandon, Thank you, buddy.

Speaker 9 (23:29):
Tell the guys the morning show when okay, Actually I
will do it on Monday.

Speaker 2 (23:36):
So all right, well there you go. Hey, all right, Brandon,
it's good talk good buddy today and see you talk
to you Tom. Yeah you too, Bye bye. All right,
we're gonna take a little break all the way out.

Speaker 1 (23:50):
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Speaker 3 (24:00):
All right, welcome back seven thirty eight on Sports Talk
seven ninety The Dug Pike Show.

Speaker 2 (24:04):
Thank you for listening. Certainly to appreciate it, Mike, give
us a call back.

Speaker 3 (24:08):
We were we were trying to sort some stuff out
in here that had to be sorted out.

Speaker 2 (24:12):
It's sorted out.

Speaker 3 (24:13):
And while we're doing that, I'm gonna go talk to Rick.
What's up, Rick, Bisse?

Speaker 8 (24:18):
I was gonna hit on a picture I sent you
and all and a little bit of fishing dablong alert.
All right, you got that picture I'm standing on that
mushroom cloud.

Speaker 2 (24:35):
Yeah, that was kind of weird looking.

Speaker 8 (24:36):
Holy cow, it looked like a nukear bomb, you know.

Speaker 3 (24:41):
And between the time you sent it and that night
I saw it on a couple of the local news stations.

Speaker 2 (24:50):
It was just the most.

Speaker 3 (24:52):
Mirror image of a nuclear explosion. That's as close as
I want to get to one of those, you know
what I mean.

Speaker 8 (25:00):
I was walking down a road yesterday morning with a
measuring a rolling measuring wheel, and I saw that I'm me.
I looked up at it and I thought the grounds
ficks and shape like.

Speaker 2 (25:12):
No no limits.

Speaker 8 (25:13):
And I just kept rolling and watching it, and it
was I thought, man, I gotta get a picture of this.
So I ran on down the road to a little
higher spot. But anyway, pretty cool. I figured. I figured
I wasn't the only one that saw that.

Speaker 2 (25:31):
No no.

Speaker 8 (25:32):
Anyway, I sent you that fish a side note this morning.
Oddly enough, there was one thrine to shape up just
like it. Yeah, I mean, I'm serious, but anyway, it
quite coase I was driving pretty fast too.

Speaker 10 (25:52):
But anyways, you seen them all, Rick, I've never seen them,
not like that. The last one I was in a
cartoon about fishing.

Speaker 3 (26:07):
That's why I was making that joke about no limits today.

Speaker 8 (26:10):
That brings me to my other topics. You said, Hot, Okay,
I work. I've worked outside, you know, you know what.
I'm there outside all my life, and I don't do
you know, hard work anymore, not out in the heat.
I don't do it. I just I don't do it.
And if I started fading, like I want to do

(26:32):
some hard work out in the heat, I just lie
down to that feeling passive. But because I am not gone,
I've done enough of that far.

Speaker 2 (26:41):
Yeah, I'm with you, but.

Speaker 8 (26:42):
With you anyways, I'm being outside. Don't want to do
for as long as I do have. This is kind
to be the hottest summer we've ever had. I don't
know if it's the hottest or if it's just maybe
I'm getting older and I just feel like it's hotter.

Speaker 2 (27:02):
It's the feeling.

Speaker 3 (27:05):
It's got to be the feeling, Rick, because last year
we had what twenty thirty days in a row over
one hundred and we haven't had that this summer. But
I'm with you, it doesn't feel hot, it does it.

Speaker 8 (27:17):
It's you know, and you know true for for me personally,
of course, I'm I'm on probably ten probably on a
daily basis, I'm probably ten degrees less on the heat
index than you, so it's a little drier.

Speaker 6 (27:33):
But the the.

Speaker 8 (27:39):
For me personally, I have always I've thrown them. I
have thrown a lure and water at least two days
a week for forty five years.

Speaker 5 (27:51):
Yeah.

Speaker 2 (27:51):
And I was over three.

Speaker 8 (27:54):
Times, Yeah, three times, maybe four or five times in
my on on what I do in this business and
this year, and I'm not proud to say it, but
I'm gonna tell you. I would say from June the first,
I have not made one cast.

Speaker 2 (28:11):
Yeah, I can't blame you.

Speaker 8 (28:13):
Yeah, it's been in the evenings, early in the morning. Eden,
I'm a man, it's just too And I had one
other little deal right quick, and yeah, I.

Speaker 2 (28:22):
Got Yeah, I'm on it, and I'm trying to get
to Mike.

Speaker 8 (28:25):
Okay, around around these lakes and ponds on these ranches,
you know that I pull up to and all it
is a very snaky year.

Speaker 2 (28:34):
Yeah, I agree with that.

Speaker 8 (28:35):
I wear snake boots almost twenty four or I mean
every day all day. Yeah, but at the same time,
they're just they're just there. But anyway, I just wanted
to sit make sure you got my pitch and d of.

Speaker 2 (28:48):
Course I got it.

Speaker 8 (28:49):
Man.

Speaker 2 (28:49):
I was just busy yesterday and.

Speaker 8 (28:50):
It out looked like it was right over sugar Land
from me. I'm like, hudding you. I think I'm not
a mention that it was. Man, that's right over that direction. Okay,
all right, man, Yeah, thank you.

Speaker 3 (29:02):
I appreciate you, buddy. Yeah, I don't I don't know.
Maybe I should run a Geiger counter over myself.

Speaker 2 (29:08):
What's up, Mike?

Speaker 11 (29:10):
Are you doing, young man?

Speaker 2 (29:11):
How good? How are you.

Speaker 11 (29:13):
Trying to stay cool?

Speaker 2 (29:15):
Good luck?

Speaker 11 (29:16):
I hear that, listen. I just thought i'd give you
a little holler.

Speaker 5 (29:20):
I was.

Speaker 11 (29:22):
Down at the farm the last couple of weeks and
trying to keeping my hand in the tracking business. And
for years and years I've had my guy down there
and drag a couple of railroad ties behind the truck
and keep vegetation out of a certain area around the lake,

(29:46):
and for about fifty yards all around the lake. I'd
go down and park the truck close to the drag
site and walk around this drag line and see what's walked.

Speaker 2 (30:00):
That's pretty cool.

Speaker 11 (30:02):
I just can't believe that my trail cams don't pick
up half of what is actually walking across that dirt.

Speaker 2 (30:10):
That's amazing.

Speaker 11 (30:12):
And I got to tell you that I have the
older I get, I have more and more respect for
the creatures that live outdoors all year round.

Speaker 2 (30:21):
Didn't that the truth?

Speaker 3 (30:21):
Every time you step out of your air conditioning, you
get that feeling, don't you.

Speaker 8 (30:25):
Yeah.

Speaker 11 (30:26):
I'd come across spots where the doves were dusting, and
I'd come across spots where there'd be, you know, impressions
of four legged creatures walking across the dirt there.

Speaker 2 (30:37):
Yeah.

Speaker 11 (30:37):
But I got to tell you when I came across
a mountain lion track, I got back in my truck.

Speaker 2 (30:44):
When was that.

Speaker 11 (30:47):
Two and a half weeks ago?

Speaker 2 (30:48):
Oh my word, man, A real deal, huh.

Speaker 11 (30:52):
From the depth of the impression, I'd say it was
about eighty pounds. So I I started back to the truck,
and when I got back to the truck, you know,
I had the automatic starter turned it on. When I
got back to the truck, I was dripping wet, of course,
but I got in the truck and it was cooling

(31:12):
off ice. And I was driving back up to the
house and I had to pass about three or four
sections of fence that's just aligned with some skeet, and
back in. One of the shady sponsors in the skit
was a Bobcat laid out spread eagle with his tongue
hanging out and he was breathing. He was just hotter

(31:34):
in hell.

Speaker 3 (31:34):
Yeah, he was just trying to get him his body
temperature down somehow.

Speaker 11 (31:39):
Oh, I gotta tell you, with this heat, they got
to be turning nocturnal right now.

Speaker 2 (31:44):
Well, yeah, they'd have to be.

Speaker 3 (31:46):
And that just goes to show you how it kind
of takes me back to the hurricane when people were
without power. We're not we're not near as tough as
those animals that live outside all day long, not near
as tough, and and so many people, you know, people
ended up dying because they just couldn't cool off. They

(32:06):
couldn't get to a cooling station, they had no way
to get anywhere. In a lot of cases, people didn't
even know they were still in their homes until it
was too late.

Speaker 2 (32:15):
And that bothers me.

Speaker 11 (32:17):
I gotta tell you that these animals no when to
shut down.

Speaker 2 (32:21):
Yeah they do.

Speaker 11 (32:22):
They're not stupid like us.

Speaker 2 (32:24):
Yeah. That's a good point. All right, Thanks Mike, you
have a very valid point.

Speaker 11 (32:29):
Kill the family high.

Speaker 3 (32:30):
I will absolutely thinks I'll see you bye bye bye.

Speaker 2 (32:34):
Yeah, that's a good point.

Speaker 3 (32:36):
Animals in a lot of cases have more sense than
we did. They know when to get in the shade,
that's for sure. And unfortunately, I'm driving the ball a
little straighter, not in the trees, not in the shade
near as often as I used to be. I think
I'm feeling the heat from from dialing it in.

Speaker 1 (32:51):
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Speaker 6 (32:59):
Friends.

Speaker 1 (32:59):
You've got to the conversation continues this as the Doug
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Speaker 2 (33:04):
I'm fifty two.

Speaker 3 (33:06):
I am going to go straight to the phone and
talk to Steve. And because we're running kind of late,
trying to get to the top of the air.

Speaker 2 (33:14):
What's up Steve, Good morning to you.

Speaker 12 (33:16):
How are you doing today?

Speaker 2 (33:17):
I'm very well, thank you great.

Speaker 12 (33:20):
What I was calling about, I heard everybody talking about
the heat and humidity and the animals. Yep, when we
hit this kind of weather, I think about the pioneers
to settled. Oh my gosh, sixteen seventeen, eighteen hundreds, even
early nineteen hundreds. Man, those people were toughly shoe leathered.

Speaker 2 (33:40):
I guarantee they were.

Speaker 12 (33:42):
I grew up in the fifties and sixties.

Speaker 2 (33:44):
Same here.

Speaker 12 (33:44):
We never had air conditioning. All we had was an
addict fan. First time I had air conditioning when I
in the residence is when I went to college.

Speaker 10 (33:52):
Wow.

Speaker 3 (33:52):
Man, yeah, And I mean we're talking about the same
age because I remember that we it was a big deal.
We got a little window a unit that we put
in our little breakfast room. And you talk about like
moss to a flame, man, holy cow.

Speaker 12 (34:08):
But everywhere, yeah, oh absolutely, we had to open the
windows from the attic fan to cool off. And yeah,
and then go ahead.

Speaker 2 (34:20):
Now you go ahead, because we're on the same track,
and I want to hear.

Speaker 8 (34:23):
You, okay.

Speaker 12 (34:25):
And then we'd have football practice before school started. You
remember the two weeks days we'd be out there on
that football field eight o'clock in the morning for two
hours to ten o'clock, and then in the afternoon we'd
be out there from four o'clock to six out there
in that August humidity and in.

Speaker 2 (34:45):
High What did it really get us? Not much?

Speaker 13 (34:48):
You know.

Speaker 12 (34:49):
Well, well, the school I went to, we had a
coach that was new that transferred in in the middle
of this year, and and and uh anyway, he was
just a phenomenal human being individual and the coach and
uh anyway, he later became well. And the coach that

(35:12):
we had was a I used this word, this description
in a way that it's not very socially acceptable the
ex ME region. Oh, he was one of those. He
was just horrible. We would win two games a season
and started but we went if we won the first
two games of the season, we lose a rest. If

(35:33):
we lost everything, we win the last two.

Speaker 2 (35:37):
It sounds like the team miles on.

Speaker 6 (35:40):
Yeah.

Speaker 12 (35:41):
Well, but then the other took coach we had, his
name was Al Dennis. After I got into college, I was,
I guess I was sophomore, and Al took Baytown Sterling
up to the finals in football and he was coach
of the year for the whole say to Texas, Hey, now,

(36:01):
what's what's I hate?

Speaker 2 (36:03):
Yeah, I have to pull you, sure, but I got
to get one more before the top, and we're right
at it.

Speaker 3 (36:09):
Yeah, thank you. I appreciate it. See Steve, Oh gosh, accident.
I didn't mean to cut him off. Sorry, Steve.

Speaker 2 (36:16):
What you got, buddy?

Speaker 14 (36:18):
What's up, mister Pike? How are you doing today?

Speaker 2 (36:20):
I'm good. I'm gonna let you finish off this hour.
What you got, man?

Speaker 15 (36:24):
I just got done practicing, because you know, you got
to practice it golf to get better. I just got
done hitting two buckets at the Moody Gardens and I
pretty much sweated out.

Speaker 14 (36:33):
Of three shirts in about an hour and fifteen minutes.

Speaker 2 (36:36):
Man, No doubt it. The mosquitoes weren't there, but yeah, yeah,
so even they have limits exactly. I hear you, Man,
they may be a little bit smarter than us.

Speaker 14 (36:49):
I agree, I agree.

Speaker 13 (36:51):
I just want to let you know, man, it is hot.

Speaker 14 (36:53):
Everybody say igrated like.

Speaker 15 (36:54):
I'm a superintendent on the at the Falstaff Building and
I had run over th twenty five guys every day,
and I remind them every day to drink a lot
of water well.

Speaker 3 (37:04):
And something that a lot of people don't realize, and
I'm glad you brought this up, is that if you're
gonna play golf on Saturday, you need to hydrate on Friday.

Speaker 5 (37:13):
You got it.

Speaker 3 (37:13):
And that's something I learned probably thirty years ago from
Charlie Epps. Actually, he said, if you're gonna if it's
gonna be hot tomorrow, you need to be drinking that
water today and stock up because your body takes time
to process that stuff, and when you're out there, the
last thing you need to be drinking is something super
cold too. That's a lot of that's a lot of
people grab the coldest bottle of water in the chest

(37:36):
or whatever, and all they do is is shove something
into their system that has to be warmed first before
it can be processed.

Speaker 2 (37:44):
And that takes energy away from you.

Speaker 7 (37:46):
So I recently learned that from your show.

Speaker 14 (37:50):
So yeah, it does work.

Speaker 7 (37:51):
I ain't gonna lie all right, man, Well it has
a great day to bike.

Speaker 2 (37:54):
Oh you'll be safe out there, Yes, sir, you too
good to hear from you. Steven, you need four shirts
that think that's what it's gonna take.

Speaker 3 (38:02):
A three shirt day. I remember those very vividly. My
my collar stayed damp yesterday. After I finished playing golf
for like two hours, I just couldn't quit sweating. All right,
we got to take a little break here on the
way out real quick. Christmas and jew well in August.
Now I was gonna say July, but it's already the
middle of August. And if you want to do yourself

(38:24):
a favor, get yourself present.

Speaker 2 (38:27):
Happy opening Day.

Speaker 3 (38:29):
Let's just call that the holiday opening Day, fourteen days away.

Speaker 1 (38:36):
This is the Doug Pike Show, brought to you by
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Speaker 2 (38:45):
Now here's Doug Pike.

Speaker 3 (38:47):
All right, second hour of the program starts right now.
Thanks for listening Doug Pike Show on Sports Talk seven ninety.
In this segment, we are going to talk to a
guy with whom I and a bunch of other guys
had a lot of fun down in El Campo last
year when Duck's Unlimited invited us down there to join
him and his crew for a couple of goose hunts.

(39:09):
And that would be Mitchell Holder from Waterfowl Specialties.

Speaker 2 (39:12):
What's going on, Mitchell?

Speaker 5 (39:15):
Oh, not much, Doug. We're just gearing up for our
fortieth anniversary season. So we started years old. No no, no,
it'll be my eighteenth year of guiding, eight years of outfitting,
but as a company started in eighty four, right, yeah,
I remember, this will be our fortieth fortieth anniversary. So

(39:38):
just kind of gearing up for, you know, our biggest
day of the year, which is opening day of the
special white wing season.

Speaker 3 (39:45):
Goly, that's so fun. I'm so excited. Really, how are
you looking down there on white wings? Speaking of it's
looking good.

Speaker 5 (39:53):
You know, there's a lot of birds in town. Definitely
had some that didn't make it through the hurt, but
got plenty of time for them to have another hatch,
and a lot of birds around kind of scattered right now.
Super late corn and milo harvest, you know, farmers having

(40:13):
to figure out how they're going to go about insurance
and stuff like that. With the burrow coming through. I
think some of those winds were ninety five coming through there,
so just it's all sitting at a forty five. It
it's pretty crazy, you know, And and it's shoot, I

(40:34):
think it's the first year that I can remember where
our first crop rice is harvested before most of our
corn crops in town. So it's yeah, yeah, pretty interesting.
But there's there's definitely a lot of birds around. They
got a lot of options. You know, a lot of
a lot of grain on the ground, whether it be
from the storm or everyone harvesting.

Speaker 2 (40:55):
Just kind of this week, you know, as an outfit
or does it feel like last year's opener was a
long time ago or like yesterday it's a long time
It feels like.

Speaker 5 (41:06):
It was a long time ago. Yeah, it's it's so
chaotic that opening day of wide wing season for us.
We primarily you know, cater to large corporate group CCA Academy,
big construction companies, so they kind of take up a
whole field and they'll have anywhere from twenty to sixty

(41:31):
people have the whole field to themselves and they'll put
up tents and some people cater and so it's a
it's a big it's a big deal and kind of
they get they get out there opening day and you know,
that's that's kind of our big day and then it
kind of goes from there.

Speaker 3 (41:47):
Does an outfitter and I have a couple of outfitter
questions for you, and I know that I can get
onest answer from you.

Speaker 2 (41:53):
That's why I'm asking you.

Speaker 3 (41:55):
So, as an outfitter, how do you decide how many
people you can put in a field where everybody's going
to have a reasonable shot at getting a bunch of birds.

Speaker 5 (42:04):
Yeah, so, you know, my uncle Terry Carr said that
started it, and in some of his his farmers, they
kind of started this whole white wing movement right down
there in No Campo once they started becoming a major
nesting ground in the state. And so I just kind
of followed his foot footprint of how many guys we

(42:26):
could put in a field, and kind of what I
averaged was, you know about an acre a person makes
it safe to where people can spread out comfortably and
not have to worry about it. So, if I've got
a group of sixty people, you know, I want to
put them in something in a corner my low field

(42:47):
that's you know, sixty five to eighty acres or even bigger.
You know, Well, you just hear all these horror stories
from I do you know, from other clients that come
from other places where you know, they'll put sixty people
in a twenty acre pasture, and yeah, about the most

(43:10):
unsafe thing you can think.

Speaker 3 (43:11):
Of, you it doesn't matter how many birds are coming
into that one little pasture. If there's if you're standing
there bumping shoulders and your your barrels are bumping each
other when you come up to shoot, that an't too
many people.

Speaker 5 (43:23):
Man, Yeah, yeah, And it's you know, unfortunately, you know,
because of how many white wingers in the El Campo area.
You know, you get a lot of people that are
just in it to make make a money, you know,
make as much money as they can that first that
first weekend and then bail.

Speaker 3 (43:42):
How many outfitters were there around El Campo when Terry
kind of first started this and how many are there now?

Speaker 6 (43:50):
Shoot?

Speaker 5 (43:50):
Well, you know there was obviously Michael I here and
what's now Red Bluff, uh right, But Blue Goose is
where they all started, you know, with Marvin and then
they you know a lot of people kind of split up.
But you know, there was a lot back in the
eighties and nineties, the the Great Beach Chase and most

(44:13):
of it, you know, there was people that did duck stuff,
you know, south of town getting getting to the coast.
But I mean back then it was all it was
all goose hunning. It was all snow goose hunting. You know,
we would run when I was a kid, you know,
we'd run. Harry would run eight nine goose groups in
a in a day in the morning. And now you know,

(44:37):
I do one goose group a day, and if it
doesn't look good, I.

Speaker 8 (44:41):
Try to convince them to go to duck because really
to do all.

Speaker 5 (44:44):
Well, you know, it's so much work. And if you're
not going in on a good feed, you just you know,
you just upfront with the guys and like, look, we
can go if y'all really want to go shoot piece,
you know, we can go. Give it a try.

Speaker 3 (44:58):
But you know, and somebody who's been there and done that,
like like you're doing right now. I'll tell this whole
audience that the ones who don't know, and there aren't
many who.

Speaker 2 (45:10):
Won't know this already.

Speaker 3 (45:11):
If your guide tells you the morning you're gonna go hunt,
and you plan to go goose hunting, that is probably
a better idea to go duck hunting.

Speaker 2 (45:20):
Just go when do we start quacking?

Speaker 5 (45:23):
And let's go right, you know, right well, And if
they're on the fence about it, I always tell them,
you know, you do get an extra hour of sleep
if you want.

Speaker 10 (45:32):
To duck hunt.

Speaker 5 (45:33):
So it's a good point always that a lot less
work and uh yeah, and you know, if they really
want to kill geese, will we'll put some floaters or
some full bodies on the edge of the pond, some
speckle bellies you know, hopefully catch a few specs later
in the morning. But but yeah, and down there you
just never know. I mean, we've shot plenty of crane,

(45:54):
plenty of geese out of a duck line before.

Speaker 2 (45:56):
So let's go back to dove. Let's go back to dove.

Speaker 3 (45:59):
Mitchell Holder from Waterfowl Specialties down in El Campo talk
about safety and dub field, especially those for a few
days when the birds are flying really low.

Speaker 5 (46:09):
Yeah, you know, it's really critical.

Speaker 7 (46:12):
We usually have all of.

Speaker 5 (46:13):
My guides have with these groups. They'll get them around
once they get to the parking area. Before anyone steps out,
you know, you have a big safety talk. You know,
don't get frustrated or gun jams or anything. You know,
come back to the trucks. You know, safety as far
as shots, you want to see the sky behind it.
And the way we do it is we we leave

(46:35):
strips of corn throughout the field. Yeah, that kind of
where people sit in to kind of separate them, and
you know that, Okay, well there's my next lane of corn.
There's going to be you know, X number of people
just down that strip of corn that's still standing, and
so you just kind of, you know, they give them

(46:55):
a big safety talk, let them know that there's a
good possibility of getting checked by the game warden. Be respectful,
you know, don't go Just give them the guidelines. You know,
don't drink too many, too many cold ones.

Speaker 12 (47:10):
You know that.

Speaker 3 (47:11):
Boy, that's a you know, that's something that you got
to be careful of because if there is an accident,
the first question is going to be asked, have you
been drinking? And if you have, yeah, it automatically it
just ramps up to a totally different level of scrutiny
that's going to go down and it's just not worth it.

Speaker 8 (47:29):
Man.

Speaker 2 (47:29):
I'll just tell them to wait. That's what I used
to do, just right.

Speaker 5 (47:32):
Oh yeah, yeah, absolutely. Another big issue is with how
hot it is. You know, people overheating themselves, you know,
not not bringing enough water dogs. You know, we I
when it's hot, there's a bunch of people out there.
Usually tell people leave the dogs at home.

Speaker 8 (47:52):
Just y.

Speaker 5 (47:53):
I agree, they kind of go kind of go off
the walls with that many people and that many people
are shooting. But you know, we've had some dogs overheat
out there. And then I have customers that take it
really well. They'll bring a whole little baby pool for
their dogs and a pop up shape tent just for
their dogs and a couple of.

Speaker 6 (48:11):
Just keep keeping.

Speaker 3 (48:13):
Absolutely you ever had to boot anybody out of a field, Mitchell,
just say go home?

Speaker 5 (48:19):
Oh yeah, I mean it's not every definitely, not every year,
but there's definitely been. Yeah, there's definitely been a couple
instances where you know, whether they're frustrated because the birds
aren't flying over them and someone else is getting more shots,
or you know it's not what they expected. Sure, but

(48:39):
you know, most most of my guys, they've been doing
it for long enough they can put out a fire
pretty quickly, and and if they can't, you know, we
have a really great relationship with our local game wardens
and they typically have back up that opening day, usually
from mathematic Orda or you know, the beds will come

(49:00):
men sometimes too, for that opening day of season. So
and you know they will give them our four wheelers
of buggies. You know, the guy will let them go
check all the licenses and everything else because you just
can't usually with a I put I figure. You know,

(49:21):
one guide can handle about fifteen to twenty people.

Speaker 2 (49:24):
Kind of like a classroom and of kindergarteners.

Speaker 5 (49:29):
Yeah, exactly. And you know, not everyone is going to
be pain you know, so just the game board and
driving by keeps everyone honest as far as shooting too
many or you know, let's you know, let's and a
lot of times these these hunters are invited sometimes it's

(49:49):
the only time they hunt all year. And so identifications
another big thing you know with h with just other
little cheechy birds out there in the field.

Speaker 2 (50:00):
Oh my gosh, Yeah, there's a bunch of them. So
there's a bunch of them, right. What's the most.

Speaker 3 (50:08):
Common thing that opening day or even opening week hunters
the first time they've been out, what do they forget?

Speaker 5 (50:17):
Usually it's water and shade, you know, it's that's the
biggest key. Is it just gets so hot out there.
Some people want to you know, with this special white
wing season, it opens at noon. Yeah, but we don't
meet until two thirty.

Speaker 2 (50:34):
And that's smart.

Speaker 5 (50:36):
I never get people in a big hurry. Even when
we get out to the field.

Speaker 16 (50:42):
Just take it easy, stay by the trucks, you know,
jumping in out of the a see if because typically
they're not going to really start moving till about.

Speaker 5 (50:53):
Four o'clock thirty four.

Speaker 3 (50:55):
Yeah, yeah, and there's no reason to be it's going
to stay light till eight o'clock anyway.

Speaker 5 (51:00):
Yeah, oh yeah, yeah. And they they're just gong ho.
It's the first rattle out of the box, you know,
and they and they want to get out there, but
it's yeah, noon is uh is way too early to
get out there for sure.

Speaker 2 (51:13):
Lord, Yeah, gotta go out there.

Speaker 3 (51:15):
Got to be the first one out there, and you're
gonna be the first one to tip over to from
being some bloody hot Oh yeah yeah.

Speaker 2 (51:24):
Have you seen any teal yet?

Speaker 7 (51:27):
Yeah?

Speaker 5 (51:27):
Yeah, they're starting to show up. Like I said, we
got we got our first first crop.

Speaker 8 (51:32):
Rice is uh.

Speaker 5 (51:34):
We've got a couple more fields left, but starting to
get water on that second crop, and they're starting to
show up. I definitely think we have some some local
blue wings that don't migrate, no, but yeah, we're definitely
starting to see bigger bunches come down. So that's that's exciting.

(51:55):
That's that's I feel like opening up peal seasons, the
real open you know.

Speaker 3 (52:02):
Yeah, you mentioned water's got enough of water to keep
the doves and the teal happy when they get there.

Speaker 5 (52:08):
Oh yeah, you know, the the dove they're going to
find their water. They're mostly roosting in town. They're going
to be in bird bats and stuff like that.

Speaker 2 (52:17):
The stream.

Speaker 5 (52:19):
Exactly, exactly. Yeah, and the ducks we've got, we're you know,
the farmers are getting their water on their second crop
rice and uh, they're getting that fresh fresh water and
they're and they're happy, and and all my leases there,
you know, there's outfitters that have to deal with the

(52:40):
l c r A and relifting out of the Colorado River,
you know, feed their rice. And thankfully we don't have
to work far enough away, we don't have to worry
about it. All of our stuff is natural gas. Well,
so it's coming straight out of the ground and we
can turn it, turn it on on a flip of
the switch.

Speaker 2 (52:58):
Good for you man. Yeah that huh.

Speaker 5 (53:02):
Yeah.

Speaker 3 (53:02):
Yeah, have you got any room if somebody wanted to
call and maybe try and squeeze in somewhere.

Speaker 5 (53:09):
Yeah, yeah, you know, our opening day of white wing
season is uh, is pretty booked. But and the way
they did it this year, Texas First and Wildlife had
to do it, it's kind of strange. It opens that
that Sunday, the first being in the South South zone,

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it's usually the first Friday of September, but our regular
season dub opener is a hard date.

Speaker 2 (53:39):
On the fourteenth.

Speaker 5 (53:41):
Yeah, so they have to figure out a way to
mix in the six special white wing days. So it's
it's the first and the second, which is Sunday and
Labor Day Monday afternoon only, and then it follows up
the next Friday day, the sixth, sixth, seventh, eighth Friday,

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Saturday Sunday afternoons for white wing, and then the following Friday,
the thirteenth, right before teal season is our last day
of special white wing season, and then regular season opens
up fourteenth Saturday mornings the fourteenth. But will we'll all
be out keel hunting by then, but the uh, yeah,

(54:27):
so it's kind of strange just the way the day's work.
But we do still have, you know, anyone that wants
to come out Labor Day Monday that afternoon, we've still
got we still got room if y'all want to come
shoot some dove. And the following weekend we the sixth,
seventh or eight that Friday, Saturday Sunday, we still have room.

Speaker 2 (54:47):
Website or from which is better?

Speaker 5 (54:51):
The phone's always great. It's nine seven, nine, five four
three eleven o nine website water Specialties dot com. So
easy enough. And still have some teal openings, you know,
more so during the week. But sure, those sixteen days
of teal season is man, it's a blast.

Speaker 2 (55:14):
God boy, I know it, I do know it.

Speaker 3 (55:16):
Mitchell Holder Waterfowl Specialties down in El Campo. Sounds like
we're gonna have a good white wing season, a good
dove season, the good teal season.

Speaker 2 (55:24):
And hopefully we'll get some geese back down there.

Speaker 5 (55:26):
Huh oh yeah, yeah, you know they have this. They
did the snowbooze thing this year. They got rid of
the conservation season and they dropped our limit from ten
to five, which you know, I think is honestly really smart.
I didn't really get into the conservation season too much.

(55:48):
Call me old school, I like to. I like to
call it my snowbees via an old wooden, you know,
Glenn Scobie.

Speaker 2 (55:58):
But it's like a lot of bait for for like
using croakers the trout.

Speaker 5 (56:04):
It's just yeah, and it's you know, you can't get
that that sound of all those gas from playing that
jukebox all morning out of your head. So I think
I think it's gonna be a good year. I'm Friday,
and I hope other states kind of follow suit with
getting rid of the conservation season. I think it would
do a world of good, honestly.

Speaker 3 (56:24):
All right, partner, I gotta run man, Mitchell Holder Waterfowl
Specialties nine seven nine, five four three eleven oh nine,
or just go to Waterfowl Specialties dot com.

Speaker 2 (56:35):
Great bunch of guys, great bunch of hunting down there.

Speaker 8 (56:37):
Man.

Speaker 2 (56:38):
I'm gonna try to sneak down there at some point, Mitchell,
come on, come on, we'll get after it, all right, partner,
Thank you very much, man, I appreciate your time.

Speaker 5 (56:47):
Thanks Doug.

Speaker 3 (56:47):
Yes, good one, my pleasure, Audios. I'm gonna let him
get back to work. I know they got stuff going
on every morning right now, he was probably there are
probably people tapping on his shoulder going, come on, man,
we got stuff to do.

Speaker 2 (57:00):
All right. On the way out, we got to we're
running a little bit late for this break, but we'll
still get there.

Speaker 1 (57:06):
This is Sports Talk seven ninety online at Sports seven
ninety dot com.

Speaker 2 (57:11):
Now there more Doug fight Blie.

Speaker 3 (57:15):
Welcome back Doug Pike Show on Sports Talk seven ninety.
Hope you enjoyed that conversation with Mitchell. He really is
a good guy, runs a great show. He and Terry
Man they're good people. They're good people. We had a
blast down there. It was a nice little group at
the invitation of Ducks Unlimited. Did two days of goose
hunting down there with him. It's amazing how different the

(57:39):
decoy setups are now than when I was guiding. And boy,
if we'd have had that stuff, if we'd have had
the stuff they have now, and if we could have
bought it for what it would have cost back then
and then just tucked it away somewhere and brought it
out now, man, we could have made a lot of
money too.

Speaker 2 (58:00):
Hey Dave, what's up?

Speaker 1 (58:03):
Yeah, Doug?

Speaker 4 (58:04):
Hey, man, if that great segment, If that doesn't get
you wanting to go buy some shotgun shells, I don't
know what does.

Speaker 2 (58:10):
I'll tell you what. Yeah, it's it's time.

Speaker 4 (58:14):
Paper versus digital. I will leave you this ball to
run with hunting licenses.

Speaker 5 (58:20):
I'm old school.

Speaker 4 (58:22):
I like a paper license for the same reason I
carry a magnetic compass.

Speaker 5 (58:28):
They don't need batteries.

Speaker 2 (58:30):
Yeah, amen to that electricity.

Speaker 3 (58:33):
And my son, I don't know what he does to
his phones, but they tend not to hold a charge
nearly as long as mine. I can go all day
and look down and I'm still on about sixty five
seventy percent. I just don't use that much phone battery up.
But there's a much higher likelihood. I feel like that
I will either lose my phone or have it stolen

(58:57):
before I lose my wallet, in which Shu, I keep
my paper license.

Speaker 4 (59:03):
Yeah, Doug, and I just looked online because I bought
my license Thursday, and it doesn't update your record on
the app. It can take forty eight hours, it says.
You know a lot of people go out and buy
their license right.

Speaker 6 (59:19):
Before they head to the Duffy.

Speaker 4 (59:20):
Oh yeah, it it ain't gonna show up until you know,
like I said, it could be a couple of days
before it shows up on the system.

Speaker 3 (59:28):
Yeah, it'll get cleared up, but you're still going to
get a ticket, and you're still going to have to.

Speaker 2 (59:33):
Deal with it.

Speaker 4 (59:34):
Yeah, and I don't get much good I don't get
a very good sales signal where I hunt. And I
just like having that paper of tag ready to go now.
And you can talk about this too. They've got new
rules on tagging. You'll have to use a tag but
U and also online reporting. Talk a little bit about
that and why it's not required eventually. I'm sure it's

(59:56):
going to be required in every county, but I don't
think it's required all counties now.

Speaker 8 (01:00:01):
But I can see the advantages of that.

Speaker 4 (01:00:03):
That's probably something you can speak to is reporting your harvest.

Speaker 13 (01:00:07):
And I'll leave it at that and let you kind.

Speaker 8 (01:00:09):
Of run with it.

Speaker 3 (01:00:10):
Yeah, I'm I'm all for holding that paper license, David,
I really am. I'm with you one hundred percent. Digital's
digit There's there are a lot of advantages to digital technology,
but I don't see this as one. I still think
that you ought to have that license. You ought to
have to sign across your your federal duck stamp. You

(01:00:30):
ought to have to do all of that stuff. Where
is where does the federal duck stamp come in on
that digital license?

Speaker 4 (01:00:37):
Do you know?

Speaker 7 (01:00:41):
I don't know.

Speaker 4 (01:00:42):
I couldn't tell you. You'll have to You'll have to
educate your listeners on that one.

Speaker 3 (01:00:47):
Just have to get a note from your mom that
says you bought it. I guess, huh, Well, an email,
a text from your mom that says you bought it,
that's what we need.

Speaker 4 (01:00:54):
Well, let me not get out of here.

Speaker 6 (01:00:56):
But my first year to buy a senior license.

Speaker 2 (01:01:02):
Wallety man, who can buy take a gas with you?

Speaker 4 (01:01:06):
Well?

Speaker 3 (01:01:06):
No, never mind, you can buy a pine of shrimp.
You buy a pine a live of shrimp? Doesn't look
doesn't croakers? I don't know, all right, buddy, Yeah, thank you, David.

Speaker 2 (01:01:15):
I see man.

Speaker 3 (01:01:18):
Yeah, I'm not a big fan of digital licensing. And
if that's you, be you, man. But if that phone
goes dead and and you can't produce that for the
game board, and the game warning is left with no
option other than to ticket you, and then you gotta
go deal with that, and now maybe it maybe it

(01:01:40):
can be cleared up digitally as well.

Speaker 2 (01:01:42):
I don't know, but one way or another, it's just
it's just a mess.

Speaker 3 (01:01:49):
I do feel like I can keep track of my
wallet better than I can rely on the electricity in
my phone, and there just I know too many people
who've lost phones on fishing trips, too many people whose
batteries have gone dead.

Speaker 2 (01:02:04):
Oh man, I've been checking email all morning.

Speaker 3 (01:02:06):
I got something really important going on, and I'm at
seven percent of my battery and you're on a boat.
You have no If you're going to do that, you
better bring a charging device with you and maybe, just maybe,
if your battery goes down, you can charge it up
enough to show the license to the game warden when.

Speaker 2 (01:02:24):
They pull you over. Yeah, I'm just old school. I
understand that.

Speaker 3 (01:02:27):
And if you're not, and you're young, and you think
your battery is going to be fine, then you be
you man. Don't I don't have a problem with doing that.
I don't have a problem with the technology being available.

Speaker 2 (01:02:37):
I just don't.

Speaker 3 (01:02:38):
I'm not that convinced that it's reliable in a situation
where you have to show that. And I still, if
somebody knows how you show the federal stamp for waterfowl hunting,
or you can show the anything else that's in addition
to your regular license, whatever it is you buy.

Speaker 2 (01:03:00):
Let me know how that works.

Speaker 3 (01:03:01):
Seven one three two one two five seven ninety Email
me Dougpike at iHeartMedia dot com. Let's take a little break,
shall we try to get.

Speaker 2 (01:03:08):
Back on time for Melvin.

Speaker 3 (01:03:10):
He's in there scrambling pretty hard, trying to make up
for my my tardiness already this morning.

Speaker 1 (01:03:18):
This is Sports Talk seven ninety, Facebook dot com slash
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Speaker 2 (01:03:24):
Back to the Doug Pike Show.

Speaker 3 (01:03:26):
All right, welcome back eight thirty eight on Sports Talk
seven ninety The Doug Pike Show.

Speaker 2 (01:03:30):
Thanks for listening. Well, I got some ground to cover.

Speaker 3 (01:03:32):
I'm gonna hit the phones for a minute, and then
I'm gonna get to an email that Captain Scott sent
and all of it's gonna be good. Let's start with Josh.
He's been sitting there in a long time. Josh, what's up, buddy?

Speaker 14 (01:03:44):
Hey? I just had a different take on your digital license.

Speaker 2 (01:03:47):
Good cause you got one, don't you. Oh yeah, okay,
help me out, make me, make me a believer, Josh.

Speaker 14 (01:03:54):
So, and I get it, like when you got the
paper copy. You've got it. You can see it, you
can touch it. It's tangible. That makes sense.

Speaker 2 (01:04:00):
And I was that way the first time you cash
versus a debit card.

Speaker 14 (01:04:04):
Huh correct?

Speaker 17 (01:04:07):
Where the advantage is so like the ranch we hunt
is MLD, so I'm not even using any of my tags,
so I use my MLD tags, which is still a
paper tag, and then all you got to do is
have your license number. But if you're if you are
using your tags off your digital license and you're you're
in an area that you don't have service, you still

(01:04:27):
just go in the app, you put down that you've
harvested the animal, and then that secures you until you
get somewhere where you have data. And then the only
thing you've got to have, like for the MLD, is
you got to have your license number, but also on
an MLD tag, you can also just use your DL
and most people have their their driver's license, so it's
it's pretty handy.

Speaker 14 (01:04:48):
And then at the end of the day, warden, if you.

Speaker 17 (01:04:50):
Do get stopped and you've made the best faith effort
and this is subjective to the game warden, if you've
made a best faith effort to do the right thing
and document, they can look up your tag in the
system whether and that goes for you have a paper
tag and you left it at home, or your phone
won't turn on and pick your battery went dead.

Speaker 3 (01:05:08):
Yeah, that goes to what Captain Scott sent me actually,
and I'll mention that real quick. He said, it's way
less of a mess than you're thinking. That's probably true
of a lot of things. A game warden has full
access to the system and all your info is available.
They won't write you for a dead phone, so that's
good to know.

Speaker 17 (01:05:26):
Yeah, and then the last thing on it is and
I don't know if anything changed this year, so everybody
needs to do their own research. But on the federal
Dutch stamp, they still will mail you your paper copy right,
and you still have to sign across it.

Speaker 14 (01:05:39):
And then you just have to have it on you
are with you while you're while you're out hunting.

Speaker 1 (01:05:44):
I'm gonna lick it and stick it to my phone,
still have to Yeah, you can do that, and most people,
like my.

Speaker 14 (01:05:49):
Son, he touched it in between his phone and his
phone case.

Speaker 2 (01:05:52):
So yeah, that's a good idea.

Speaker 14 (01:05:54):
He's not gonna forget his phone.

Speaker 3 (01:05:56):
No, boy, isn't that the truth? Hey forget his car
keys before he forget his phone. If he's like mine, yeah,
it's a lot, it's a lot better if Okay, I'm
leaning a little closer and a little closer. Thanks Josh,
I appreciate it. But yeah, appreciate it. Let's go talk
to Tyler. See what's up.

Speaker 2 (01:06:16):
What's up Tyler?

Speaker 18 (01:06:18):
Hey, good morning, Doug. A couple of quo, A couple
of comments in the questions. So on the duck stamp,
if I'm not mistaken, last year they passed a law
where you can just have an electronic duck stamp Act
or something like that, where you no longer have to
have that stamp on your poll.

Speaker 2 (01:06:36):
Okay, yeah, I'll try to look at.

Speaker 7 (01:06:39):
That because there's I believe that's federally.

Speaker 5 (01:06:42):
Yeah.

Speaker 18 (01:06:44):
Second, I don't know if you've gotten your paper lessons
this year, but I did. And it's twice the size
because they added that specled trump tag.

Speaker 2 (01:06:51):
Oh great, Yeah.

Speaker 7 (01:06:53):
Like the whole lifense it's double. The whole thing is double.

Speaker 2 (01:06:56):
So like trying to stuff a roll of paper towels
into your lucky.

Speaker 7 (01:07:01):
It's almost like they're trying to push you towards that show.

Speaker 2 (01:07:04):
Oh wow, that you know it might be something. I'm
gonna certainly take a look at it.

Speaker 8 (01:07:10):
I am.

Speaker 2 (01:07:11):
Let me ask you this, and I got a question
for you.

Speaker 3 (01:07:14):
So, if if I buy the paper license, can I
also see it on my phone?

Speaker 2 (01:07:21):
If I just go look it up digitally. Yeah, okay, so.

Speaker 18 (01:07:23):
Yeah, you just you just have to go into the
I think it's the Outdoor Annual app, and you know,
you you log in and then you you know, once
it refreshes or whatever, like you said, you may.

Speaker 7 (01:07:34):
Take a couple of days once he refreshes. In fact,
last year, there was a couple of times who I
didn't want to I have my phone in my shirt pocket.

Speaker 18 (01:07:40):
Yeah, and I had my wallet in the bottom of
my shell bag when I was nuck home and I
just pulled it up on my.

Speaker 7 (01:07:44):
Phone and shaved the game board and instead of digging
in my shelves.

Speaker 2 (01:07:47):
That's a good call. That's a good call. All right, man,
I'm getting closer and closer. I might just take the plunge.

Speaker 7 (01:07:56):
I got a quick question for you, okay, out to
look at shotguns?

Speaker 2 (01:08:02):
Okay, do you have any tips fit?

Speaker 7 (01:08:06):
And I'm getting a guy, a guy that fits you well.

Speaker 3 (01:08:09):
The best the best advice I can give you, unless
you want to go through like a custom fitting or
something like that, is, if you find a gun that
looks pretty to you, close your eyes and mount the
gun and open your eyes and see whether you're looking
straight down the barrel. That that's a big way to
know whether that gun and just go ahead and just

(01:08:29):
kind of snug it up into your shoulder and and
get your hands just where it feels right, and then
open your eyes.

Speaker 2 (01:08:36):
And if you're looking at a barrel that's way up
or way.

Speaker 3 (01:08:38):
Down, then that gun's probably not gonna be the easiest
for you to get comfortable shooting.

Speaker 2 (01:08:44):
I've been very blessed over the years.

Speaker 3 (01:08:46):
I'm I'm like the model for a lot of shotguns
in size and weight and arm length and all that stuff.

Speaker 2 (01:08:53):
So it's been pretty easy for me. But I've also
picked up guns.

Speaker 3 (01:08:58):
I've got a trap gun at the house right now
that if I pick it up, it just flat doesn't
fit me. And it I don't know why they all
look alike sitting there in the in the case, but
you pick one up, and you're gonna be looking right
down the barrel, and that's probably the one you want.

Speaker 2 (01:09:13):
To start with. Okay, Dog, I appreciate you, Yeah, thank you. Man,
appreciate Tyler.

Speaker 3 (01:09:18):
You see, buddy, Yeah, shotgun fit is kind of like
getting fit for golf clubs or anything else.

Speaker 2 (01:09:24):
Man, you gotta try.

Speaker 3 (01:09:26):
I'm gonna real quick, try to get the forest, and
we got to go to a break Hang on, if
you're hanging on, what's up, Force.

Speaker 2 (01:09:32):
Doug Pikes of Gun Model, Let's go home, that's me.

Speaker 19 (01:09:37):
Oh no, not too much, man, I've already been out
this morning, got the boat, put away, change clothes, heeded
to the local choking to get some breakfast.

Speaker 2 (01:09:45):
So good for you, the local choke and puke. Really
it was that time you heard that phrase just now
smoking the bandit? Okay, is that where that came from? Okay?

Speaker 19 (01:09:57):
Yeah, or the local choking some CB lango all right,
But now I got I got a.

Speaker 2 (01:10:01):
Guy trip tomorrow.

Speaker 14 (01:10:01):
Old boy wants to go out try to catch a
white mass.

Speaker 19 (01:10:03):
I went out and check three spots, and two of
them are full. I sat out there and caught twenty
or thirty just to catch them, and it marked a
few spots. And yeah, back up, back back on the
trailer about seven fifteen. So there ain't nothing wrong with that.

Speaker 2 (01:10:15):
So no, not at all, man. Well good for you.

Speaker 19 (01:10:18):
Still sweating though, still sweating at the daylight. I know, hey,
real quick for you for you? Yeah, yeah, what I
do real quick? I just uh, when I'm on the website,
for your for your license and stuff like that. I
keep a file on my phone. It's got my insurance.
And when you're on your when you're on that web page,
just screenshot your license and the game boards. So that's
fight enough that all you got to do is pull

(01:10:39):
that picture file up in your phone and here it is. Yeah,
that's a good point.

Speaker 2 (01:10:42):
That's the works.

Speaker 3 (01:10:43):
Good quick, hitter, I'm getting close. I'm getting close, man.
All right, thanks for us, all right, but I'll see
a porter audios. He just called a brag about little
fishy caught.

Speaker 2 (01:10:53):
That's what he did.

Speaker 11 (01:10:53):
All right.

Speaker 3 (01:10:54):
We got to take this break, man, ponder and warn.
When we get back, you are going to be one
and two coming up. I know you've been on hold
for a while. I won't keep you there long.

Speaker 1 (01:11:02):
This is Sports Talk seven ninety. They Houston Sports Fan
on air and on Facebook. They contact back to the
Doug Fike Show to put.

Speaker 2 (01:11:12):
My reading classes back on. I got tickled.

Speaker 3 (01:11:15):
Well, no, let me get to these phone calls first,
because these guys have been waiting a heck of a
long time and I'm not gonna make them wait anymore.
Ponder your first. As soon as I push his button,
stand by there we are.

Speaker 2 (01:11:24):
What's up? Good morning?

Speaker 14 (01:11:26):
Hey, good morning you Doug.

Speaker 5 (01:11:27):
How you doing.

Speaker 2 (01:11:28):
I'm great. Thanks for hanging on. Warren too, he's hanging
on right behind you, man, what's up?

Speaker 14 (01:11:32):
I got you?

Speaker 4 (01:11:33):
Well?

Speaker 20 (01:11:33):
Look, so I wanted to kind of push your push
your buttons here on this digital tag. You know, and
everybody's got perspective, everybody's hunting experiences different.

Speaker 2 (01:11:41):
But sure you know.

Speaker 20 (01:11:42):
For me, I've got four daughters that range from six
to fifteen, and my older three which are ten and
fourteen and fifteen, they all hunt with me.

Speaker 5 (01:11:51):
My wife hunts.

Speaker 2 (01:11:52):
Oh, you're a lucky man, brother.

Speaker 20 (01:11:54):
I'm gonna tell you that that those digital tags coming
handy now.

Speaker 14 (01:11:58):
I hunt out in Rock Springs.

Speaker 2 (01:11:59):
So a little bit of the detail with it you.

Speaker 20 (01:12:03):
And something I want you to know is when you
do register online for all these things, uh, you can
still request payper tag okay, and and if you're being honest,
you can have both so you know, just like filling
out your log on the back of the tag.

Speaker 3 (01:12:18):
Uh.

Speaker 20 (01:12:19):
Now, this is one of those things that's I'm sure
you can get caught real easily. I haven't been stopped
by a game warden since they've gone to digital.

Speaker 14 (01:12:27):
Sure, thank god, you know, but you know, I'm sure
there are.

Speaker 2 (01:12:32):
Way are thinking, God, you haven't been stopped you what
have you done?

Speaker 14 (01:12:36):
Well, I've just likes to get knocked.

Speaker 20 (01:12:40):
But no, yeah, it's it's I'm sure people have pushed
this issue where you can register it online and you
don't have a tag and then you don't put it
on your log and you forget or you know, that's
easy to happen. But I will tell you that when
you're dealing with ten year olds and fourteen year olds
and fifteen year olds who can't keep their head on
straight much, let's keep on uh track up on Bison,

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it sure comes in handy and and for me and
I do have okay sell service out there, not everywhere,
but but here's the upside is you don't.

Speaker 14 (01:13:11):
Have to pull with poking a hole.

Speaker 20 (01:13:13):
In a tag and cutting all that stuff out in
the field and all that.

Speaker 2 (01:13:15):
It's a good point.

Speaker 6 (01:13:16):
You do it right there, go ahead.

Speaker 2 (01:13:19):
No, I'm saying I'm agreeing with you. That's a very
good point.

Speaker 6 (01:13:23):
You just you just put it online.

Speaker 20 (01:13:24):
And also, this was something I didn't care for very
much when I first did my first year on the
online deal.

Speaker 14 (01:13:31):
Is it wanted you to turn on your location.

Speaker 20 (01:13:34):
Now you know, I'm not cool with that because I
know what that means too, so, but you can bypass
that step as long as you log it what it
is and it matches. Then it gives you a receipt number.
You write it on a piece of duct tape or
just a sheet of paper, and you're done.

Speaker 14 (01:13:51):
You're legal. You can drive back up to camp and
you tagged it right there in the field.

Speaker 2 (01:13:55):
Yeah, that's a lot easier. It is, Sony. That's my
take on it.

Speaker 19 (01:14:00):
And you have it.

Speaker 3 (01:14:01):
Yeah, thank you. I appreciate you calling. I do all right,
let me knock that one out and go to this one.
I think, Warren, you you've almost set a record. Thank
you man for hanging on.

Speaker 8 (01:14:10):
With what's up? This one will be quick because you
answered my question.

Speaker 7 (01:14:13):
Okay, I.

Speaker 13 (01:14:16):
Live out of state, but I hunt in Texas quite
a bit. I'm a native here, so I have Texas
hunting licenses. I keep them going back to nineteen sixty. Wow,
you know the thing that bothered me was now that
I used to have all the state duck stamps for
all the states that duck hunter in. Now they're all
on your there's no state duck stamp.

Speaker 2 (01:14:36):
No, no state stuff at all.

Speaker 13 (01:14:39):
Yes, no physical stamp, so that's kind of ended by collection. Yeah,
so I would put one on my license, and then
I'd buy an extra one, saying with turkey stamps and everything.
Now on the digitals, it just shows you bought a stamp.

Speaker 5 (01:14:51):
So anyway, you have a great day.

Speaker 3 (01:14:53):
Going all the way back to the sixties, Warren, you
and I I wasn't old enough to be hunting in
the sixties really, but but going back that far reminds
me that we could have bought all of South Texas
for about fifty bucks an acre back then.

Speaker 2 (01:15:08):
A keeper on that Yeah, probably.

Speaker 13 (01:15:12):
Bought a place down there. It's been a while, but
not nearly that long ago. Sure, I think he paid
like twelve dollars an acre for it.

Speaker 2 (01:15:19):
He caused his ranch.

Speaker 13 (01:15:20):
But to be honest, if you if you put a
goat out there, you'd have to feed and water.

Speaker 2 (01:15:27):
That's a great way. Oh, that's a great way to
describe that.

Speaker 13 (01:15:32):
Same thing is there's all kinds that you can find.
I mean, like I think he got about thirty three
hundred acres. Yeah, you can find old places where people
had an adobe house, or Indian petroglyphs and stuff like that.
So there's a lot of history are but but I
think I think I'm right. I think around thirty dollars

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an acre, it's virtually worth. But it's other than just
the history out of it.

Speaker 3 (01:15:56):
So well, that would include minerals back then too, you know, yeah,
really arrowheads maybe.

Speaker 2 (01:16:06):
Thank you, Warren. Yeah, it's great to hear from me.

Speaker 3 (01:16:09):
Thanks for coling. Yeah, appreciate it. Appreciate him hanging on
like he did. That's South Texas, man. I got to
spend so much time with Bill Carter at som Burrito
and that ranch still there, still producing amazing trophy Texas whitetails,
generations of them for gosh, for the I don't know
how many years Bill had that ranch before he passed,

(01:16:30):
and his his son and grandson grandsons are are just
following in his footsteps and maintaining that place. That The
artifacts in South Texas are just fascinating. There's all kinds
of stuff you can find down there. Seven one three
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(01:16:56):
well many years ago now, when I was still at
the paper. Shannon and I were sitting around one afternoon
and talking about lease prices around the state, and we
got to looking for them. And even then, this is
at least probably twenty years ago, we were talking about
how cheap South Texas was way back when, like what

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Warren was talking about.

Speaker 2 (01:17:19):
And then look, and there.

Speaker 3 (01:17:21):
Were a couple of deer leases and I'll wrap quotes
around deer lease because in Texas it's isn't enough room,
but there were deer leases available around Austin that even then,
we're asking one hundred dollars an acre.

Speaker 2 (01:17:36):
Just to lease access to the place for what three months?
Four months?

Speaker 3 (01:17:42):
And right then and there, I knew Texas was overpriced.
And it's just it's sad. A lot of it is
because some of those really big ranches have been have
been divvied up between three and four generations of families
whose chill all had very little.

Speaker 2 (01:18:02):
Or no interest in owning rural ground.

Speaker 3 (01:18:05):
They didn't know what to do with it, they didn't
know its true value, and so they just started chopping
it up and realizing that people would pay big money
for a ranchet somewhere, which isn't it just kind of
curls my hair when I hear people talk about selling
acreage hunting land and offering it up in twenty and

(01:18:28):
forty acre parcels. That's just not enough room. Just kind
of like Warren said, if you put a goat on it,
you'd have to feed and water it. And that's one
of the best expressions I've heard for a place that's
not as big as the guy thinks it is.

Speaker 1 (01:18:44):
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Speaker 2 (01:18:54):
Now here's Doug Pike, all right, third by loud.

Speaker 3 (01:18:57):
The program starts right now, and I've got Moyle all
kinds of emails. I'm going through Billy ways in they
did away with the physical Duck stamp Man. What should
people who not only don't deal with digital but would
have absolutely no idea how to start?

Speaker 2 (01:19:11):
What are they supposed to do? He writes?

Speaker 3 (01:19:14):
He continues, I know a few people in their late
seventies that couldn't care less about anything digital have no
access to it. Does that mean they just can't hunt
anything or what? No, it doesn't mean that. It means
you just have to go to a store that sells
licenses and buy one there where you can get all
of that. You don't you don't have to just abandon

(01:19:35):
the outdoors because you don't want to go digital.

Speaker 2 (01:19:38):
It's an option, it's not a mandate. Not yet anyway,
not yet. I'm just rolling through.

Speaker 3 (01:19:53):
Oh, cap'm Scott and his tarping down there at port O'Connor.
Holy cow, there's a background. There's background in this photo.
And it's not like anybody wouldn't know where he is.
But they're catching some really fun I'll wrap it in
quotes as he did, fun sized tarp and which are

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ten to twenty pounds.

Speaker 2 (01:20:17):
It's not like one hundred and twenty pounds.

Speaker 3 (01:20:18):
Or offshore a mile or two where you got to
crank on that thing forever and ever. A little tarping
like that comes up, it jumps like a jack rabbit.
It pulls pretty hard when it puts his head down,
and you can get him in the boat on light
tackle or fly rods or whatever you want to do. Ye,

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he's down at port O'Connor. Yeah, he's down at Port O'Connor.
And it's a fun little place. It's a fun jetty
of fish. You got to have a boat to get
out there and do what they're doing. But nonetheless, I
wouldn't mind being down there this afternoon. Just saying Alan
wage in something about Fort Davis Mountains. A customer, he writes,

(01:21:00):
when I still worked at academy, found a nineteen eleven.
Oh wow, that's a big old forty five in the
mountains out there hiking a trail, he said, just found
it laying on the ground. It was an old original
nineteen eleven, not an A one or anything else.

Speaker 2 (01:21:17):
Wow.

Speaker 3 (01:21:19):
Wow, that's pretty special. Who knows where something like that
came from?

Speaker 4 (01:21:25):
That.

Speaker 3 (01:21:25):
There's a story behind that gun, for sure, Absolutely a story,
and who knows what it is.

Speaker 2 (01:21:32):
That's really cool. That's really cool.

Speaker 3 (01:21:34):
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Speaker 2 (01:21:40):
Wow, he sent me a picture of some of his hardware.
That's pretty stuff right there.

Speaker 5 (01:21:45):
Man.

Speaker 2 (01:21:46):
Woo, all right, let's go. It's moved just a little bit.

Speaker 3 (01:21:50):
Hold on three of March. Oh, I gotta go check
that out. Let's move on to golf for just a
little bit and then maybe come back. Maybe come back
the fishing and the licenses if you like seven one
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dot com over in Memphis at TPC South Wind The

(01:22:11):
FedEx Saint Jude Championship a precursor, well, the the the
objective is about the same, but the talent on the
golf course isn't the same. When we do our annual
golf tournament for Saint Jude over here in Houston, first
Monday in December, by the way, and there are a

(01:22:33):
few sponsorships left. And when I say a few, I
mean a few, not a lot, because the people who
support this tournament every year for us here at iHeart
and Saint Jude are usually very eager to repeat and
do exactly what they've done again and again and again.

(01:22:53):
I've got sponsors in some of these particular areas who
have been doing the same sponsorship for eight ten years now.

Speaker 2 (01:23:01):
We did our tenth tenth tournament last year and raised
in a week.

Speaker 3 (01:23:06):
Between that and the and the Radiothon, we did in
a week raised more than a million dollars for Saint Jude.

Speaker 2 (01:23:14):
That was pretty special.

Speaker 3 (01:23:16):
Danny McCarthy Hideki Matsuyama leading that tournament through two rounds,
both of them at eleven under par. Sam Burns is
at ten by himself, and guess who's in fourth all
alone at nine under par. That would be Scotty Scheffler,
World's number one. And just like I did a couple

(01:23:37):
of weeks ago, I'll give you the entire field and
I'll take Scotty Scheffler, and more often is not.

Speaker 2 (01:23:46):
This year I would have won your money.

Speaker 3 (01:23:49):
Justin Rose is at eight along with Nick Dunlapp, Victor Hoveland,
Robert McIntyre, Billy Horschell, all at seven under par, and
I guess the sixes might still have a chance with
thirty six holes to play. If somebody catches fire, that
would be Eric Vnroyan, Will Salatoris and Chris Kirk the

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fives and.

Speaker 2 (01:24:13):
Not better.

Speaker 3 (01:24:16):
They're playing for a great finish and maybe somebody's looking
to work their way into a higher ranking for whatever,
maybe FedEx Cup stuff. But I don't think the leader
is gonna come from five under to beat everybody in
front of them, including once again, I'll take Scheffler. You
guys can have the field and we'll see how that

(01:24:37):
works out. I'm still I'm still contemplating buying a well.
I guess I'm gonna go pick up my paper license today.
Probably I'm gonna do that, and then what I'm gonna
do is go ahead and register it on my phone.
What all I'd have to do probably is just take

(01:24:59):
a pick of the license number on my phone and
just have that with me.

Speaker 2 (01:25:04):
I wouldn't have to have all the other.

Speaker 3 (01:25:05):
Stuff, but I guess it would make it easier to
fill out tags and such if it's all digital, because
the paper tags can be tough.

Speaker 2 (01:25:15):
You have to have tape with you. You have to
have a pen that writes. I got stuck once with
a pen that would not It just refused to write.
It looked like there was ink in it, but it
just refused to write out in the field on that
tag for some reason, and I was just like, oh
my gosh.

Speaker 3 (01:25:30):
I felt like felt like I'd robbed a bank until
we got back there to the camp house and there
was a pen there that would write, and just felt
terrible not being able to do what I was supposed
to do in the field.

Speaker 2 (01:25:43):
Back to there was something else I wanted to hit
this morning, and I wanted to make sure that I
get to it.

Speaker 3 (01:25:48):
Yeah, I want to go back to dogs Okay, an
opening day of dub season coming up here shortly, and
the issue with those dogs is that they can't hold on.
And I'm going to go back to this email I
got from Mark earlier. Uh Mark wade in about this.
He said, I got this stuff because he had a friend.

(01:26:10):
He gets this information from a friend who actually lost
a dog to the heat a few years ago. And
the first part, it's almost too late to deal with
early in the season. Just run them for very short runs.
You can't you can't make the you can't allow these dogs.
You can't make them do anything. You can't allow them though,
because it's in their nature to just go and go

(01:26:31):
and go. And when it's super hot like that, if
they're going and going more one time, more than they can,
this is going to be a problem. There is this
rule of one forty that I'd never heard of before,
but it makes sense if the temperature plus the percentage
of humidity in the air tops one forty, be very

(01:26:54):
careful in the field with the dogs. That's kind of
a tipping point. Okay, Provide them shade no matter where
you are, even.

Speaker 2 (01:27:02):
If that means.

Speaker 3 (01:27:05):
Duct taping a golf umbrella to a tree. Limb, but
find a way to shade them. And this is something
I'd never really thought about. I've actually done it in
the field with dogs. Provide two types of water for
that dog. First of all, bring a squirt bottle and
squirt water on.

Speaker 2 (01:27:26):
Their tongue every fifteen or twenty minutes, which cools their
tongue and allows them to breathe a little cooler air
in because it's going over that water, so they can
pant out hot air.

Speaker 3 (01:27:41):
And then the other is for their paws. You got
to keep their paws cool. They can release heat through
their paws too. They don't sweat, but they can release
heat through their paws and their tongues, and that's also
an effective way to get a dog cooled off. That's
why when we were talking earlier about this, we talked
about bringing.

Speaker 2 (01:27:58):
Those little kiddie pools. A small kiddie.

Speaker 3 (01:28:01):
Pool and five gallons of water and a bag of
ice could go a long ways to it. And you
don't have to put the ice in there until you
kind of really need it, or maybe just put a
little in there at a time so where when you
stick your fingers in there, it just doesn't feel like
a sauna.

Speaker 2 (01:28:19):
And let those dogs get in there anytime they want to.

Speaker 3 (01:28:22):
If it's gonna get the back seat of your suv
wet when the dog gets back in, that's better than
having to race like crazy to take a dog to
a veterinarian.

Speaker 2 (01:28:32):
Take care of your dogs, man.

Speaker 3 (01:28:34):
I've seen a few of them go down, and I
know at least one of them I recall very vividly,
after about a week at the veterinary and getting pumped
full of anti not antibiotics, but just the steroids to
kind of keep it going, that dog finally died.

Speaker 2 (01:28:50):
It's really sad thing, and it's it's just unnecessary, and
there's really it's as Mitchell and I Mitchell Holder from
Waterfowl Specialties and I were talking earlier. If you pay
attention to where your birds fall, and you.

Speaker 3 (01:29:05):
Realize that it's just a dove hunt hunt, and you're
not going to miss any meals that night, if you
don't knock down a full limited doves, do your own
bird work. Do your own bird work for that first
week or two, and then maybe take your dog out
for a teal hunt in a couple of weeks after.
That's a lot better than pushing your dog one inch

(01:29:28):
too far and watching it just collapse where it can't
even stand up in front of you.

Speaker 2 (01:29:32):
That's that's not good. All right, let's take a break.

Speaker 1 (01:29:38):
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Speaker 5 (01:29:43):
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Speaker 2 (01:29:45):
This is The Dog Fight Show nine twenty two.

Speaker 3 (01:29:49):
Already, good, golly Wally, good, golly Wally. I saw a
story that I want to bring up. Hold on, let
me see what this email is, late rival, I gotta
go check it out. Oh, it's from Forest Voux Pro.

Speaker 2 (01:30:04):
What do you want? What do you got?

Speaker 4 (01:30:06):
Oh?

Speaker 3 (01:30:06):
He just got to be a picture of a big fish,
of course, and one of those wish you were here thinks, No,
he doesn't.

Speaker 2 (01:30:13):
He just wanted to rub it in. Let's take a look.

Speaker 3 (01:30:16):
Oh no, this is his breakfast. I thought it was
going to be a picture of a fish. That's a
choking puke. Yeah, he done at the corner of choking puke.
He's got two eggs over it looks like over medium,
maybe hash browns wheat toast. That's homage you to health,

(01:30:40):
I guess, and then two giant pieces of bacon that
kind of dwarfed the toast. So basically half a pig,
two efforts from the chicken, and a potato and some bread.
I don't know how to make bread, so whatever that is,
that's what it is. That's a good looking breakfast right
there too. I would have to have for the toast,

(01:31:00):
I'm gonna need strawberry jelly and grape jelly, one of each,
because I like to be different.

Speaker 2 (01:31:09):
Or do you what's your what's your go to breakfast?
If you could just get anything put on your plate?
What would you get? Melbourne? Two eggs over heart? Okay? Pancakes? Okay,
I'm a pancake guy. Did you see speaking of pancakes.
It was one of the two. It was either Ihopper

(01:31:30):
or Denny's. I can't remember, but some guy had gone
in there like he always had for years and years
with his family and it was just hit him. His
wife and one child. Okay, that child's growing up a
little bit.

Speaker 3 (01:31:42):
So there are all three, I think ordering off the
real menu, not a kiddy menu anymore. The bottom line was,
and I don't remember which one it was, so I'm
not blaming either one of them, but they pretty much
got what they always get, and the prices had gone
up and he didn't really pay attention when they ordered,
and for the three of them to get out of
there was like seventy two dollars. Yeah, and it wasn't

(01:32:04):
I don't even think it was in Texas. So hopefully
our prices have it gone up like those prices have.
But yeah, like, holy cow, twenty years ago, you could
have gotten out of Perry's for that. It's just amazing,
just amazing how much things have gone up in the
past three and a half years. And if you're not

(01:32:24):
paying attention, you better start now unless you want it
to go up even more. Oh, mercy, I don't want
to go down that road. So I saw a story
and it felt like just bringing it up because it's
it's worth bringing up two of them.

Speaker 2 (01:32:40):
Actually. The first has to do with a place called
the Pond. Have you ever heard of that, Melboyne? No,
you and I would not have.

Speaker 3 (01:32:48):
It used to be it used to formerly be the
HLMP Pond, and there was I believe at the time
that it was it was being managed and owned by HLMP,
that there was entertainment going business, entertainment going on over there.
Now it's owned and operated by Centerpoint, and center Point

(01:33:08):
is in the news lot, and what goes on over
there now is these retreats and business meetings and whatnot.
And the people who are over there have access to
a trap in Skeet Field. They have access to fishing
in an area where nobody else can fish, and there
are giant redfish in there. There's all kinds of stories

(01:33:29):
that have come out of the old the old pond
over there.

Speaker 2 (01:33:32):
It's over off Trinity Bay and it's I saw that
story and it just I thought, men, yeah, I don't know,
it just made me want to mention it. Fishing is
off the charts over there, it really is.

Speaker 3 (01:33:47):
There used to be stripers over there too in that area,
if memory serves me well, and this may have been
even before the previous owners had it. It might And
I know a long time ago, one hundred and twenty
years ago, there was actually a commercial fishery for stripe
bass in the Galveson Bay system. They were catching that

(01:34:07):
many stripe bass. And why that went away, I'm not
really sure.

Speaker 2 (01:34:12):
And speaking of fish that had well, speaking of fish,
I'll just stop there. I saw another story in the
last fact, I've seen it in a couple of spots
where there is now.

Speaker 3 (01:34:26):
Going to be and I'm gonna have to do a
little bit more research, but I'm just gonna throw this
out there and see what you guys think of this.
Separate records for Florida and Texas largemouth bass, which are
now distinctly recognized as two different species or subspecies, really, but.

Speaker 2 (01:34:50):
There's evidence of.

Speaker 3 (01:34:53):
Revised record keeping to make specific records for each of
those two.

Speaker 2 (01:34:59):
We in competition with Laura, and now we're not in
competition with Florida.

Speaker 3 (01:35:02):
The deal, here's the deal, Melbourne, Texas bass typically don't
grow as big as Florida bass. That's why the state
of Texas started stocking Florida strain bass don't forty fifty
years ago.

Speaker 2 (01:35:15):
Now almost it seems like a long long time ago.

Speaker 3 (01:35:19):
Another difference between the two is that Texas bass and
this it pains me to say it, but Texas bass
aren't as smart as Florida bass.

Speaker 2 (01:35:32):
You put a bunch of Texas bass in a pond
and you throw a.

Speaker 3 (01:35:37):
Char True spinner bait out there, and the Texas bass
comes running up and grabs that Chartrue spinner bait, and
you catch it and you bring it in and you
unhook it and you throw it back out in the
pond and you throw that Chartrue spinner bit out there again,
and that Texas bas jumps on it again, hadn't learned
his lesson at all. We need to allocate some lottery

(01:35:59):
winnings that education of the Texas Bas. Yeah, we should,
you know, there should be a program. Should And it's
like Ned's first grade reader. They're gonna have to start
at the bottom and work their way up. With our baths.
They're just not very smart.

Speaker 2 (01:36:15):
And I don't know.

Speaker 3 (01:36:17):
I'm sure people in Florida could make some jokes about it.
I'm certainly not going to These are our fish, man,
These are our babies. We got to protect them and
that that's just the way God made them, always starving them. No,
we're not.

Speaker 2 (01:36:31):
Starving them at all.

Speaker 3 (01:36:32):
They got the same access to food, They got the
same access to everything. They just who that looks good?
Didn't they eat that little while ago? I'm gonna try
it again, and that's what we're dealing with with Texas
Bass Florida baths. They eat something like that, they get caught,
they go down and back into the lake if they're
lucky enough to get released. And I've seen that before. Hey, hey,

(01:36:57):
over there fellas. No, don't don't, no, don't do that.
I just ate that a little while ago, and it hurt,
It gave me, gave me an ulcer in my mouth.
Got back in the water to tell you guys about it,
because I'm a Florida bass just like it's like Texas
bass are. Texas bass are in the third grade and

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Florida bass are. I'm not going to give them PhD
level education, but they're they They got their ged already,
and I wish I could think up a really quick
way to tie fish to ge and D as an acronym,
but I don't have it.

Speaker 2 (01:37:40):
In any event.

Speaker 3 (01:37:41):
That's how a hunting process. What they're going to produce
after that, well, there's been I mean there. Once they're
in the lakes, they're all one big happy, they're all
spawning together. And there are a lot of half half
Florida half Texas bass and quarters and eighths and generation
after general ration of these fish. But the Florida bass

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are the ones that tend to grow biggest too, and
that's the ones that top twenty pounds happy, and everybody
wants Texas to finally get a twenty pound or after
bury Saint Clair's fish of eighteen point eighteen pounds has
stood as our state record for like, I don't know,
twenty five thirty years now. I can't remember exactly when

(01:38:22):
he caught that fish, but it was a long, hot
minute ago, a very long time ago. Seven one three
two one two five seven ninety email on me, Dougpike
at iHeartMedia dot com. In a way, I think it's
not a bad idea to recognize the two as different
species and to go ahead and have separate records.

Speaker 2 (01:38:46):
But I think that it's asking an awful.

Speaker 3 (01:38:48):
Lot unless it's really easy to tell the difference in
the two just holding one up and looking at it.
We're not going to have to do DNA tests on
these fish. I hope to set records. That's kind of ridiculous.

Speaker 2 (01:39:02):
I'd just soon leave it as largemouth bass and move
on from there.

Speaker 3 (01:39:07):
And you know, if I can't catch one that weighs
twenty pounds, just because I'm fishing in a lake full
of Texas bass and I want to catch a twenty pounder,
I just need to find a.

Speaker 2 (01:39:15):
New place to fish.

Speaker 3 (01:39:16):
Parks and Wallach Department has done an excellent job with
its spawning or its restocking program, an excellent job of
breeding the biggest females with the biggest males and trying
to grow bigger and bigger bass. And we're getting more
and more really big twelve thirteen, fourteen pounders out of

(01:39:41):
a lot more lakes in Texas, but we just still
can't cross that twenty pound threshold. And the only thing
that I think is different, at least in California where
they've had some twenty pounders come out, is that they
do heavy, heavy stocking of very fat, very protein rich
rainbow trout in their lakes, which are, by the way,

(01:40:04):
mostly smaller, deeper lakes, So it insulates those fish from
summer heat, it insulates those fish from winter cold, and
they've got they've got a chance to grow big and
fat and lazy and just just gorge themselves.

Speaker 2 (01:40:23):
Like like, nah, I don't no, I'm not gonna do that.
Oh gosh, I gotta do it. I gotta do it. Melvin,
turn your head. What's up, Robert, Good morning dog.

Speaker 17 (01:40:35):
I was thinking, years ago some guy caught a big
bass bas at the pond out there in front of
the zoo.

Speaker 2 (01:40:45):
I don't doubt that that pond had some big bass
in it. Absolutely it may have been.

Speaker 3 (01:40:53):
It might have even made I remember the fish, I
don't remember how big it was. It might have it
might have made the top fifty, but I can't remember
how big it was. But now, actually that pond now
is only I think it's only fishing will buy little
kids and possibly by people my age and older. But

(01:41:14):
and if that's the case, I think I'm gonna call
Joe dogg it. He used to go down there quite
a bit, and uh, maybe he and I'll make another
trip down there if that's available.

Speaker 2 (01:41:23):
But yeah, there were some really big bass in that pond.

Speaker 3 (01:41:26):
My only concern would at this point would be whether
people were taking them home.

Speaker 2 (01:41:30):
And I'm sure it's catching release on the sign, but
you never know, you never know. Yeah, yeah, I just
I do remember that fish though. Yeah, you're right about that.

Speaker 3 (01:41:41):
Yeah, I'll try during the break, I'll tell you what
we're about to take a break, and during the break,
I'll try and hunt down that fish and we'll see
how big it was. All right, all right, man, Yeah,
thanks for the call. You jogged my memory. This is
kind of fun.

Speaker 2 (01:41:51):
I like this challenge, accepted Robert.

Speaker 1 (01:41:55):
All right, buddy, audios, this is Sports seven ninety Houston
Sports Online at Sports seven ninety dot com.

Speaker 5 (01:42:05):
Back back to the Doug Pike Show.

Speaker 3 (01:42:07):
All right, welcome back Doug Pike Show on Sports Talk
seven ninety.

Speaker 2 (01:42:11):
Did I see Dan earlier? Okay? Good, well that means
I gotta dust up and get out of here now.
I'm gonna start cleaning up. During the next break, I
spread paperwork. Was he in that traffic?

Speaker 3 (01:42:25):
No, he didn't come in from that way. Yeah, he's
on the other side of town. He probably smooth.

Speaker 2 (01:42:30):
Sailing for him. All right.

Speaker 3 (01:42:32):
I looked during the break, I could not find any
reference to the big bass that was caught so many
many years ago out of the it's called McGovern Lake
at Herman Park. I did find, however, that fishing at
McGovern Lake in Herman Park is okay if you are

(01:42:53):
seventeen or younger. That covers my son, and sixty five
or older that covers me. So sorry, Melvin, I can't
take you to mcgoverned Lake in Herman Park. You're you
and I are going to have to go to that
little secret lake we got dialed in, and I do
believe that, uh if I can get over there about

(01:43:15):
thirty minutes or an hour before you guys show up,
that as soon as the lines hit the water, we'll
start getting bites pretty quick.

Speaker 2 (01:43:22):
And fingers crossed, fingers crossed.

Speaker 3 (01:43:25):
Seven one three, two two five seven ninety email me
Doug Pike at iHeartMedia dot com. I'm still I'm thrilled
with all the encouragement I got about digital licenses not
being as as unreliable as pot as I probably thought.
Before the show started and we got into that, I

(01:43:47):
was under the impression that if your phone didn't work,
you were just out of luck. Boy they were or
working me and as they were, and appen, Scott and
several other people weighed in throughout that discussion, and many

(01:44:07):
I got a lot of calls encouraging me to kind
of maybe try it out, because even if you don't,
even if your phone is totally dead, and you can
give them your driver's license number, for example, the game
warden can look up what you've bought and what you
haven't bought. They can know without you having to show them.

(01:44:28):
It takes a little extra effort on their part, but nonetheless,
you either have it or you don't, and that gives
you actually a second opportunity to verify that license, Whereas
if you actually did have just the paper copy.

Speaker 2 (01:44:46):
You see where I'm going here.

Speaker 3 (01:44:48):
If you only have the paper copy and somehow that
gets lost or stolen, now you're really out of luck.
Although I guess it should still be in there in
their data bank and the database, right, it would have
to be so one way or the other.

Speaker 2 (01:45:04):
I think once you buy the thing, you're kind of
locked in. And okay, but I'm still I'm still old
schooled enough.

Speaker 3 (01:45:10):
I'll go ahead and buy a paper license, and then
I'll do what two or three of my older listeners suggested,
and then take a picture of it, take a picture
of the paper license and put that on my phone.

Speaker 2 (01:45:23):
Why, because we're hard headed and we don't really we
don't really do that.

Speaker 5 (01:45:31):
I do.

Speaker 3 (01:45:32):
I still am waiting for it to cool off just
enough to where I feel like I have a snowballs
chance of catching a bass out at the golf course lake.
And I actually I saw something yesterday that really got
my attention. And this is something to remember, and it
makes sense now that I've looked at it, but it
didn't when.

Speaker 2 (01:45:52):
I first saw it.

Speaker 3 (01:45:53):
I was under the impression all along that this one
particular lake out there the smaller of the two lakes
on this property. That one lake was probably a foot
or it just I pictured it as a bowl, a
shallow bowl, but a bowl nonetheless, where it was shallower
along the banks and deeper out in the middle. And

(01:46:14):
then yesterday, because the lake is about two feet down
from its normal level, I looked out there and there
was a shore bird.

Speaker 2 (01:46:24):
Wasn't a big one.

Speaker 3 (01:46:24):
It wasn't This wasn't a blue heron or a giant
egret or something. This was just kind of a common
shore bird. I couldn't tell. It was far enough away
that I couldn't tell quite what species it was. But nonetheless,
this thing's standing out there knee deep and probably based
on the size of the bird, probably six seven inches.

Speaker 2 (01:46:47):
Of water in the middle of that lake.

Speaker 3 (01:46:50):
It's down and I didn't realize how down it was
until I saw that bird out there, and it made
me realize that, wait a minute, that I knew that
they had to dig out stuff around the perimeter, and
I thought they had just kind of started digging from
the middle out to prop up undulation and little baby
hills around the golf course. But apparently what they did

(01:47:14):
was what is always done. They the less far they
have to carry the dirt, the easier it is to
get the job done. And that's exactly what happened. So
I bet that there is a deep trough. If you
drained that lake, you would find a deep trough around
the edges where they had to dig to prop up
some hillsides, and then the rest they just left it

(01:47:35):
almost ground level, or maybe it isn't ground level, and
there's just that little bit of oof in the fairways
from where they dug it out from the sides, and
the old ground level may be what that middle of
the lake is now. With two feet of water on
top of that, it makes for some really good bass fishing.
And I'm gonna change the way I fished that lake accordingly.

(01:48:00):
I'm gonna change what lures I throw out there accordingly,
because I thought there was a lot more water than
that out there. And it really it makes me appreciate
how close to the bottom my son and I were fishing.
When we were throwing rattle traps out there as far
as we could throw, had to hold the rod tip
up to keep it out of the grass. In hindsight,
it may have been to keep it out of the dirt.

Speaker 2 (01:48:22):
And the sand.

Speaker 3 (01:48:24):
Yes, could you give us an example of what type
of loure you would throw and what in that shallow
of water now water would be. Once it all cools off,
I'm gonna be even more encouraged to throw top waters
out there. I'm also gonna be more encouraged to throw
some some soft plastics farther out there, because I know

(01:48:46):
that they're not dropping into an abyss. They're just they're
hitting and then one, two three they're on the bottom
and there's a lot of it's gonna open up a
lot of stuff. It opens up some lighter headed swims.
I think that we'll be good out there, and so yeah,
I'll talk to you more about it after the show.
But it just I thought I was fishing in four

(01:49:07):
or five feet of water, where even when the lake
is full, it's probably only two and a half maybe three.

Speaker 2 (01:49:14):
And that changes the light penetration.

Speaker 3 (01:49:17):
It changes a lot of things out there, and it
explains a couple of places where I was catching fish
where I couldn't really I couldn't justify why they were
where they are.

Speaker 2 (01:49:27):
It's all starting to make some sense now.

Speaker 3 (01:49:30):
Some one three, two, one two five seven ninety Captain
Scott Way's in careful he writes, your quote, old man
end quote is showing Uh, I'm not the one with
the full gray beard. Just to set the record straight. Okay,
so I and I know, I know that I was

(01:49:50):
probably driving a car before you were even born.

Speaker 2 (01:49:53):
Scott, Okay, I get it. But pot meat kettle, you know?

Speaker 13 (01:50:00):
Yeah?

Speaker 3 (01:50:01):
Seven one three two one two five seven ninety. Email
me Dougpike at iHeartMedia dot com. I get It's good,
I get it. I'll I'll convert at some point because
I I do know how to use most of the
functions on my phone and apps. Excuse me, not functions,
they're apps. There's another little slip of the tongue right there. Huh,

(01:50:23):
Carter's country.

Speaker 1 (01:50:24):
If you are we are Sports Talk seven ninety. Are
you ready listen online at sports seven ninety dot com.

Speaker 2 (01:50:32):
Now more Doug Fike.

Speaker 3 (01:50:35):
BI, welcome back now to wrap up, Holy cow, we
ran a little long in a couple of segments, didn't
we movyn We should?

Speaker 2 (01:50:43):
We did the best we could to keep up at
a good interview catch up. Yeah, well that was a
lot of it.

Speaker 3 (01:50:48):
Talking to Mitchell Mitchell Holder from Waterfowl Specialties about the
white wing prospects down around El Campo, those birds between
the white wings moving up from south from the South
and Mexico in South Texas, where they traditionally were kind
of pinned in for many, many years. They've come up
here and just said, step aside, mourning doves, step aside,

(01:51:11):
you're raising collared doves.

Speaker 2 (01:51:14):
This is our turf now. And they have flat moved in.

Speaker 3 (01:51:19):
I can remember the first couple of times I saw
white wings out on the Kati Prairie, thought.

Speaker 2 (01:51:23):
Wow, that's different.

Speaker 3 (01:51:24):
I wonder if they'll have any luck out here, And
all of a sudden, you couldn't throw a rock without
hitting white wings.

Speaker 2 (01:51:30):
They were in my backyard too.

Speaker 3 (01:51:31):
I was feeding birds in the backyard for quite some
time and got some really cool pictures. Actually, I got
a beautiful shot of a mother on the nest with
a little baby bird kind of tucked into her under
her chin, and you have to look twice to see
the baby bird. She so well camouflaged in that nest.

(01:51:51):
And any event, they're here, and they're here to stay,
and the season comes, the season goes. If you're ready
for it, get after it. Waterfowl Specialties. Mitchell was saying
he's got a little bit of room left. Not a
lot of room, but a little bit of room that
first weekend and then the second the second weekend, actually

(01:52:12):
there's three days of it. It's a complicated schedule because
of the calendar, but he could probably squeeze in a.

Speaker 2 (01:52:17):
Few more if you wanted to call him.

Speaker 3 (01:52:19):
And I do feel like he's a really good guy
and he's gonna do his best to get you on
birds good as anybody.

Speaker 14 (01:52:25):
For for sure.

Speaker 2 (01:52:27):
All Right, Dan Matthews just walked in. That means I
kind of got to get out of the way. What
happened last night? Why did we lose that game? We
don't talk about it anymore. You sorry, what did you say?
Did you just say hawk to it?

Speaker 9 (01:52:40):
No?

Speaker 2 (01:52:40):
I did not. I did not do that. I hope not.
I did not do that.

Speaker 21 (01:52:43):
Just make it sure, No, back up a little to say,
let's not get it twisted here. But by the way too,
I mean, obviously the audience isn't in the room, so
they don't know. But you're hanging meets in here. Well,
I'm cooled off, man, very comfortable.

Speaker 2 (01:52:58):
And I'll get out of the way.

Speaker 5 (01:52:59):
Let you.

Speaker 2 (01:53:01):
I get it. Oh yeah, go yeah, go out there.
You'll know that's what I'm into, all right, I'll be
back tomorrow morning. Everybody, let's do it again tomorrow morning.

Speaker 3 (01:53:09):
Get outside, have some fun, stay hydrated, do your sunscreen,
do all of that stuff, but have a blast.

Speaker 2 (01:53:14):
It's still summertime in Houston. You can handle it. We'll
be back tomorrow. Eight audios.

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