The Doug Pike Show 8-24-2024

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Speaker 1 (00:01):
This is the Doug Pike Show, brought to you by
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Speaker 2 (00:10):
Now here's Doug Pike. Alright, I'm back.

Speaker 3 (00:16):
Had to run down the hall, had to get something
off the printer, Melvin, had to get something off the
printer for me. So you're pretty sure this is the
one you sent right, Melbourne, because the other one I
tried to print it to that printer too, and it
didn't go there either. There's something fishy on the weekends
where I don't have access to either of these printers,
the main one of the secondary one, So who knows,

(00:38):
who cares, really doesn't matter, doesn't matter. I could do this,
do this with my eyes closed, I think, although I
wouldn't want to try it that way. We've got lots
to talk about today, by the way, and I hope
that all of you are half winded from running around
this place. Holy cow, I hope all of you are

(01:00):
set to go.

Speaker 4 (01:01):
Ah, yes see, there were two copies there, Melvin.

Speaker 3 (01:03):
Look so at least I have access to the secondary Yeah,
there you go. Thank goodness, I have access to something
around here. Okay, countdown to Dove season continues the September
one opener. You know, there there are outfitters out there

(01:24):
and then there are the honest outfitters. And I've actually
known one guy who, well, Jim West, of all the
guys I would love to see have an amazing opener
and have limits of birds coming out of every field.

Speaker 4 (01:39):
He's worked all summer long.

Speaker 3 (01:42):
I saw a post from him on Facebook this morning said, man,
it's just it's wet and.

Speaker 4 (01:48):
Green has been.

Speaker 3 (01:49):
We had all this rain, we got barreled and they
had I think it was about another fourteen to fifteen
inches of rain. Then a couple of weeks later with
that week long soaker we had and his birds just
disappeared on him. Now he's still working to try to
get something going. But I will hand it to Jim West.
He's not gonna He's not gonna blow smoke up anybody's

(02:11):
skirt and tell him he's got birds when he doesn't.

Speaker 4 (02:14):
Same as when he's fishing.

Speaker 3 (02:15):
Well, when he was gotten fishing, he's pretty much put
that aside. I'm hoping he's still doing some fishing for fun,
and I think anybody who's spent as many years doing
it as long as he did, right on in the
footsteps of his dad. That guy loves to fish, so
I'm sure he's out there when he can be and

(02:36):
enjoying it all the more since he's not having to
bait anybody's hook or come help him get a fish
off the line or whatever. Some some places have doves.
Some places have more doves you can shake stick at,
especially the West Side generally, and I'm not telling you
every field on either side of towns got birg Er
doesn't have birds, but the West Side generally has a

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lot of bur from what I'm being told, and the
people I'm talking to are people I trust. So if
you're having it, if you're still trying to find a
place to go, first of all, if you're trying to
get out on opening day, good luck, good luck.

Speaker 4 (03:16):
Not going to be easy.

Speaker 3 (03:18):
The opening day ritual that takes place in Texas for
opening day of dove season and then again for opening
day of deer season is one that doesn't encourage. It tempts.
It tempts a lot of parents to yank their kids
out of school for that day to make them part

(03:42):
of the tradition in which they grew up. If you
could follow all the pronouns, and it's just a it's
a fantastic time to reacquaint yourself with the out of doors.
It's also a time when if you're not careful, if
you're not caring, let me put my little mom hat on.
If you're not careful, you might step on a snake,

(04:05):
you might overheat your dog or yourself. You might And
this is something boy, I hate to be Debbie Downer,
but I'm gonna just say, if you're gonna hunt opening
day with a friend or an outfitter or anybody else
so you don't really know one hundred percent, well, I

(04:27):
would encourage you, especially if this particular place you're going
to hunt has been scouted and there you just can't
throw a rock without hitting a dove. I would encourage
you before dawn to walk around the area where you're
hunting and make sure there's not any extra feed, if

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you know what I'm talking about laying around. Going back
twenty something years, friend of mine, friend of mine got
invited on a dove hunt.

Speaker 4 (05:00):
And he knew some of the people going.

Speaker 3 (05:01):
He didn't know them all, didn't know the outfitter really,
but these guys were assured that they're let me just
turn that down. How obnoxious. These guys were assured that
this place had a lot of birds in it, and man,
all you got to do is get there and we're
gonna have a great time when we're all gonna shoot
a bunch of birds. Well, they're all out in the

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field a good forty five minutes before sunrise, just sitting
around waiting sun starts to come up. Shooting time comes along,
there's a lot of shooting going on, a lot of
birds just everywhere. You can't throw a rock without hitting
a dove. And then at some point shortly after shooting time,

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shortly after almost everybody in the field had burned some
powder and knocked down a few birds. Just like magic,
out pop a bunch of game wardens, state and federal,
and they, at least one or two of them had
confirmed in the days prior to opening day that somebody

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was throwing a little extra food in the field for
those doves. And that's against the law, strictly against the law,
especially against the law when you're talking about migratory game
birds that brings in the Feds. And they don't play
around with stuff like this because baiting is cheating, basically,

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and if you're cheating to get your doves and to
get everybody else's doves into your field, then they're not
going to take kindly to that. And as it turned out,
almost everybody in that field was ticketed that day and
had their birds confiscated. Down the line, fast forward several weeks, months,

(06:55):
whatever it took, most of the hunters in that field
had the cases dismissed against them, but they didn't let
go of the people who were responsible for getting that
corn and there. Whatever it was, I don't know what
they baited with. The bottom line was whatever was out
there didn't belong there, and that got those guys in

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a lot of trouble. And even if you eventually get
vindicated and it's not your fault and you had no idea,
you're kind of guilty by association until you prove otherwise.
And those kinds of cases are very hard to prove.
Why why didn't you notice that bait in the field. Well,
I was busy trying to get out there. They put

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me out there in the middle of the night. Basically
it was pitch dark when I got there. Uh, bring
a flashlight, bring a flashlight. In this particular episode was
the baiting when everybody learned how and where and when
it had been done. Was pretty pretty over the top,

(07:58):
pretty egregious example of not doing the right thing by
that outfitter who did get in a lot of trouble.
By the way, the Hunters though, like I said, I
mean most are all of them? Most of all of
them or all of them got a hard pass. Oh yeah,
let me do this. Hold on, I gotta get one
little bit of thing. Come on, come on, I've got

(08:22):
to go to my emails because I want to mention
this before I talked to Brandon. There's Rudy right there.
A good luck mentioned. These kids don't need luck. They
got skill.

Speaker 5 (08:32):
Man.

Speaker 4 (08:33):
That's the Bernie Little League.

Speaker 3 (08:35):
They are playing for the American Championship today, Rudy reminds me.
And I'm glad you did, Rudy, because I've had a
lot of things on my mind, and Bernie's Little League
wasn't one of them. I'll confess I watched some of
the game the other day, or was it yesterday? Even
maybe it may have been, But yeah, they go at
it today. Who I don't know who they're gonna knock over,

(08:55):
but I hope they knock them over.

Speaker 4 (08:57):
I was watching them in there.

Speaker 3 (08:58):
I think it was orange and some other color they
had on, And if they're smart, it would have been
orange and maroon, just to settle it all out real quickly.
I don't think that worth the color scheme, though. Let
me go talk to Brandon.

Speaker 4 (09:11):
What's up, Brandon? How you doing, buddy, Doug?

Speaker 6 (09:14):
How are you?

Speaker 3 (09:14):
I'm okay, how are you?

Speaker 4 (09:17):
Thank you?

Speaker 3 (09:18):
You got me on the speakerphone, don't you.

Speaker 7 (09:22):
You know?

Speaker 3 (09:22):
Actually it's okay either way, whatever you prefer. What happened
to what happened to our astros last night? They're not
my astros, my astros, you're sure yours?

Speaker 4 (09:34):
Okay? What happened to them last night?

Speaker 5 (09:36):
Man?

Speaker 4 (09:36):
How did they give it? Give it up like that
with a bomb?

Speaker 1 (09:41):
We can't keep it, We can't keep the read.

Speaker 3 (09:44):
But somebody had a Yeah, I know, I saw it. Oh.
I just could have cried as soon as the guy
touched the ball, as soon as he hit it, a
little kind of a high heater, just a little bit
off over the top of his own and he just
mashed it and he knew it, and there was no
doubt it was leaving the ball apart.

Speaker 4 (10:02):
And that was a tough break. Tough break for the boy.

Speaker 3 (10:05):
It's amazing though, with all the injuries they endured all
through this season to to finding themselves what was it,
ten games back, not that long ago, and now solidly
leading the AL West. That's that's pretty special, eddit Brendan.

Speaker 5 (10:22):
Yeah, I have to dance.

Speaker 4 (10:25):
What's that?

Speaker 2 (10:26):
I have to go dance?

Speaker 4 (10:28):
Oh good, let me hear it.

Speaker 8 (10:31):
My grandma's house got sold.

Speaker 3 (10:34):
Fantastic. How long has she been trying to sell that house, Brendan?

Speaker 7 (10:39):
Not long?

Speaker 3 (10:40):
Okay, well that's even better. Then, that's even better.

Speaker 9 (10:44):
And now.

Speaker 10 (10:47):
We're going to go.

Speaker 3 (10:50):
Stay with him. Okay, that's gonna be fun, for sure.
For sure, I've got a couple of my clients going
to Chris Stapleton. As a matter of fact, sure do.
It's gonna be a good concert.

Speaker 8 (11:03):
Huh, I will. I will see them there.

Speaker 3 (11:07):
Maybe so you just might, you just might. All right, Well, hey,
look I gotta hit a commercial break. I'm gonna have
to cut you loose, Brandon, all right, buddy, great talking
to you, man. I'm all right, Hey, I'll see you okay,
bye bye? All right you too, bybe Yeah, it's I'm
glad they've been trying to get that household and it's

(11:27):
time things are going on seven one three two one
two five seven ninety Email me Dougpike at iHeartMedia dot com.
Rudy got things started with that reminder about Bernie little League,
and that was a very good reminder. I'm glad he
did that. I'm glad he did it. Got two of
them I need to look at during the break welcome back.

(11:48):
I'm feeling hopeless.

Speaker 11 (11:54):
Sorry about that, everybody. I accidentally put a Taylor Swift
song on. It's supposed to be a rolling Stone song.
It's supposed to be miss you rolling Stone. How could
anybody even know the difference? You know, there's such similar artists,
right right, Taylor Swift. That's a first, Melvin, that's the

(12:14):
first twenty four years. I don't e Taylor was a
little girl, a little girl when I started doing this,
and yeah, we we finally worked her in somehow. You've
been secretly wanting to do that for a long time,
haven't you, Melvin.

Speaker 3 (12:29):
You know that's kind of revealing about you.

Speaker 11 (12:32):
Yeah, I'm a swiftye myself side Oh yeah.

Speaker 3 (12:36):
God guilty, oh my word? All right, Well, you know
music is music, and even I listened in my time.
When I was a younger man to a lot of
pop music. I listened to a lot of the contemporary
current stuff from back then, and I still can sing
along and never miss a word to most of those

(12:57):
songs from back when I was growing up.

Speaker 4 (13:01):
And and I don't have a problem.

Speaker 3 (13:03):
The only the only music, and I'm even gonna wrap
quotes around that that that kind of is disappointing to
me is the really heavy, really vulgar rap stuff. I
just I don't see the necessity to to use lyrics

(13:25):
that so strongly recommend that people do things or that
are just messed up. Other than that, if it's just
a song, it's it's got some sort some sort of
rhythm and beat to it and lyrics that you could
play in front of an audience of little kids. Then

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and by the way, that's that line's being crossed more
and more. I don't know why parents think it's funny
to post on social media videos of their three and
four year olds firing off f bombs.

Speaker 4 (14:02):
I just it's really not right.

Speaker 3 (14:05):
And they it's become in certain circles just young young
adults generally, not even any more specific circles than that,
but young parents think it's cute and funny that their
kids are just saying stuff that would have gotten them
kicked off the air if they'd have been on the radio.
Not that many even still today, even today, there's words

(14:30):
you can't say on the radio, but these little kids
are just blowing them out like it's nothing that bothers me.

Speaker 4 (14:36):
But I digress.

Speaker 3 (14:38):
Let's get back to hunting and fishing, shall we, So
that I mentioned the countdown to dove season coming up
and the September one opener in the North and Central
zones and in special White Wing counties.

Speaker 4 (14:53):
Where let's try to keep up with all this.

Speaker 3 (14:56):
Okay, The first weekend of the Special White Wing sea
in specific counties, actually we'll be Sunday and Monday, which
is not a weekend. It's half of a weekend and
one fifth of twenty percent of a work week. Second
week went God, I can't even say it without messing
it up. The second week end of the Special White

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Wing season also not a true weekend because it takes
place on Friday, Saturday and Sunday. And then the third
and final weekend of the Special White Wing season also
not a weekend. It's just Friday September thirteenth. So if
there's only, if there's one day that I would miss

(15:43):
out of all of those for going hunting, it'd probably
be Friday the thirteenth. I'm not very superstitious, not really,
just kind of joking a little bit.

Speaker 4 (15:51):
And back to the regular dove season.

Speaker 3 (15:53):
The South zone opens is always two weeks after the
North and Central zones, so look for that on the
fourteenth of September. It's some Yeah, this is one of
those really crazy mixed up calendars. Central and South both
closed October twenty seventh, but by then most of the
people who hunt opening Day are going to be wrapped

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up either in teel season, which is September fourteenth, same
as the South zone opener through the twenty ninth, or
in BO season, which runs September twenty eighth.

Speaker 4 (16:25):
Through November one.

Speaker 3 (16:26):
And the reason I emphasized September twenty eighth is because
and I wrote about this every time it happened, and
it doesn't happen often, but I wrote about this when
I was at the paper because.

Speaker 4 (16:40):
I needed coffee there. Because here's how it works.

Speaker 3 (16:43):
This is one of those crazy years where the Texas
deer season the posted Texas season. Never mind MLD stuff,
managed lands deer permits, never mind that. Just ignore that.
But just look at the seasons. The regular season for
regular people like you and me. It touches barely in

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two cases, but it still touches six months on the calendar.

Speaker 4 (17:11):
Six months on the calendar.

Speaker 3 (17:12):
BO seasons starts September twenty eighth, and then there's the
special late South Zone season for deer hunters that runs
through February two, September, October, November, December, January, and a
little tickle of February. I'm pretty confident, based on past

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reporting of seasons and whatnot in different states, that there's
not another state in the United States where a licensed
deer hunter can be in the field in the stand,
loaded gun, looking around waiting for the right animal to
walk out, six months out of the year, six months
out of the year. Speaking of being in the field

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or or on the water a long time, I saw
something pretty funny about it, or heard something funny. It
was basically an exchange of a diehard fisherman with his
wife about how long he was going to be on
the water that day, and she and I'm paraphrasing all
the way through because I can't remember it word for word,

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but she has he how long are you going to
be gone today? He goes, well, it depends, She says
on what. Well, you know, a fishing's really really tough.
We're gonna have to try a lot of places and
really try to try to find those fish. We need
to catch them. We want to catch them. We need
to catch them, and we're gonna work until we do.
And she goes, okay, what about but what about A

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fishing's good, you're just gonna come on home early? Oh no, no, no,
fishing is good. We have to take advantage of that
because those days are so rare, and we there's no
way we're walking away from biting fish. And she finally
just she throws in the towels. She says, so you're
gonna be gone all day? He go, yeah, pretty much,

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pretty much.

Speaker 4 (19:05):
He's just not coming home, you know, yeah, one way
or the other.

Speaker 3 (19:08):
And I've been in both situations, fortunately, but I've been
in both sides of that coin.

Speaker 4 (19:15):
So many times. You're out there and.

Speaker 3 (19:17):
It's it's not the best day, and you know it,
but you know that there's bound to be a hungry
fish somewhere and if you just stay there long enough,
you'll fight him and you'll throw something that fish will eat.
And then there are days when your holy cow, you're there.
Every time you throw out the lure, three fish jump
on it. You ever had two fish on the same lure, Melbourne,

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something like that. Let's say a fish and a crab. Okay,
I'll take that. Yeah, it's I've been very blessed and
I've fished enough times to have that happen numerous times.
Really with bass and speckled trout, I've never had two
redfish get on the same lure, but that is probably

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in part because of just how their bodies are built,
how their mouths are built, and how they feed and whatnot.
But speckled trout and largemouth bass, especially the small to
mid size ones, when they're schooled up and very aggressively
feeding the trout, maybe say underbirds eating shrimp, or the
bass in a big lake have pushed all the shad

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up to the top and they're just ripping them to shreds.
You get a lure out there that's got two hooks
on it, and there's a fair chance that you'll end
up catching two fish, and it's kind of fun when
it happens, because your first thought when you feel the
it's like a team of horses pulling a chariot. If

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you've got one horse pulling the chariot, it can go
about so fast. Here we got that's pretty cute and all.
But you got two horses out there, two horsepower, and buddy,
can they pull? And those little fish feel like those
two little two pounders feel like a knight out there.
But in the case of the bass, they're still bass,
so they don't want fight like a wet sock. Honest

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to goodness, bass are good, amazing sport fish. And I'm
not taking anything away from bass. That wet sock line
is one that's used about walleye all the time. They fight,
but they don't fight for long. And I've talked about
this many times. They don't fight long, and so they're
just they're kind of okay, dog it and I talked

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years ago about how long the fight is on the
average bass, and even the biggest bass we've ever caught,
neither of us could remember one of them that took
more than one minute to catch. Big speckled trout, big
red fish, you're gonna be there for a while. Even
with a little bit heavier gear, you're still gonna be

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there a while or risk. If you just muscle down
and throw forty pound braid and bury the drag, you
might be able to bring in a pretty good trout
of redfish. But fair fight to fair fight, any saltwater
fish is stronger and more powerful and just has to
to survive. It has to be that way to survive

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than a largemouth bass. And I'm not taking anything away
from bass. I fish for them as much as anything anymore.
And I enjoy the cat and mouse game we play
out at the little golf course lakes. I fish.

Speaker 4 (22:29):
It's fun. They're all fun.

Speaker 3 (22:30):
And if you're catching them, you got to stay out
there until you can't see. And if you're not catching them,
you got to stay out there until you can't see
because they may turn on at any second. That's every
cast I make. I think, Okay, this is the one,
this is the one right here. And I've heard other
people say that. I've read stories where people talk about
that if you're just goofy for fishing, you're going to

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be out there till it's all done. We're gonna talk
about some fishing, and I've got I need your help
with a store I'm working on for saltwater sportsman. I'm
gonna throw a question out there and see, just see
where the answers fall. I've actually already asked this question
of several guides and even some people in other aspects

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of saltwater fishing, and they don't really want to talk
about this issue. But I know you guys will.

Speaker 12 (23:25):
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Speaker 3 (23:31):
Back to the Doug Fike Show. Oh my gosh, Melvin.
Another Taylor Swift song. Yeah, you know, faris fair?

Speaker 4 (23:43):
Huh? That still's not gonna bother me. I don't care.

Speaker 3 (23:46):
I couldn't name I could probably name four or five
kind of pop artists now, but not many more than that.
There's Taylor Swift, there's Ariana Grande, ed Sheering's he's still popular.
I guess so I'm slowly running out.

Speaker 11 (24:07):
Yeah, I believe he is. I'm in the same, you
know category. Yeah, I think he's kind of fizzing out
a little bit. Yeah, well, let's see it gets another hit.

Speaker 3 (24:16):
They're not well well yeah, well, they all fizzle at
some point. They either fizzle or wither. All right, I
promise to ask this question, and I'm hoping for I don't.
You can send it to me in an email, you
can put it in a text message. You can call
and we'll talk about it, and I'll take a couple
of notes, and if you want to, if you want

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to throw your whole name on it, maybe I'll try
to work that into the story. But I don't have
that many words to work with. But the bottom line
is I'm doing something on croker fishing for trout, using
small crokers, using them for bait, and I'm The pitch
I made to the editor is that this has definitely changed.

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It's it's not been the deciding fact, not the one
thing that changed Texas coastal fishing, but it's certainly in
the top three that had made an impact on coastal
trout fishing in the past ten twenty thirty years. I
can't remember the first time I saw one of those
little yellow buckets behind somebody wadefishing, the first time I

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heard about somebody using little crokers for bait.

Speaker 4 (25:27):
It's been a while, and I.

Speaker 3 (25:30):
Do believe that going from summertimes when it was very difficult,
especially for those of us who throw lures very difficult
to really get onto a good trout bite unless you
were there just at the crack of dawn and late
in the day. Those fish just didn't want to chase

(25:52):
things around. And then these croakers came along. That was
true in the surf too to some degree. And then
the use of crokers came along, and suddenly they were
just like crack to these fish. The fish couldn't stand it.
They had to go eat that thing. They had to

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go eat it, and they did. And very quickly, people
who were coming back with one maybe two trout apiece
and a boatload of guys having fun were coming back
with full limits and pretty routinely, and the fishing guides.
The fishing guides went from having to really scrape and

(26:36):
scramble to put a good day together in some summertime
scenarios to actually a lot of them did, and some
of them still do.

Speaker 4 (26:47):
Book two.

Speaker 3 (26:48):
And at the peak of it all, even three trips
a day. We're gonna take you out at six, we're
gonna come back, drop you off at eleven or ten
point thirty, maybe nine o'clock if your limit's done, and
then there'll be a group waiting on the dock for me,
and you jump out, they jump in. We go do
it again till about two thirty three o'clock, and then

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the afternoon shift kicks in and we go back out
and get another full limit of fishing. This When it
all started, the limit was ten and there were hundreds
thousands of trout being taken out of the bas system
almost every day. And then the limit went down to
five in some parts of the state, and then three
and three here and five over there. At the bottom

(27:31):
line is we're down now to three try today, free
trout today. We've got that fifteen to twenty inch slot.
Got the one fish with you. If you roll out
your CBS receipt, long Hunting and Fishing license, your super combo,
you'll see your tag for your trout. And I do
believe that that's gonna that's gonna offset anything that was

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happening to the trout population that could be directly attributed
to using crokers for bait. I don't want to outlaw
any kind of bait, by the way, I would not
before that. I think by regulating the number of fish
we can take legally still take into account people who

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are going to disregard the law. No matter what it is.
If we can regulate that way, I think we come
out okay no matter what. And that's what already I
think we're we're kind of seeing just peeking under the
curtain a little bit or under the under the blinds.
We're seeing better overall results and better overall fishing. Then

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maybe it would have been if we'd never done anything.
And if this trend continues, if the if the upward
movement continues, I think we're going to have one a
heck of a trout fishery again. And in not that
many years. We just got to avoid gotta avoid winter.
Got to avoid winter, all right, Just do that. Do

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me a favor, send me your input if you would please.
I'd like to get more opinions than I have right
now for this story, because I and from both sides.
If you love fishing with croakers, and I know a
bunch of people who do, and I'll never fault that,
I might tease them a little bit, depending on how
well I know them, and if they're really good friends
throwing crokers, then we'll get into some fun stuff.

Speaker 4 (29:21):
But hey, you be you and it's a lawful bait.

Speaker 3 (29:24):
In the state of Texas, and therefore I can't have
a problem with it. I can I can choose not
to use it, and that's all I do. But I'm
still not gonna I'm not gonna turn my nose up
at you. If you throw crokers, and more power to you,
You're probably gonna catch more fish than I in that day.
But I'm okay with that. I've caught a lot of fish.
I'm okay. I'm gonna leave a lot for anybody who

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comes behind me once I'm gone. Just know that I've
left you an awful lot of fish that I could
have caught and kept and thrown into grease Mercy seven
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Speaker 12 (30:04):
Sports Talk seven ninety. Listen online at sports seven ninety
dot com. Now more Doug Fike.

Speaker 3 (30:12):
Bright, Welcome back Doug Pike Show on Sports Talk seven ninety.
So you play one Taylor Swift song and then you
never play another one.

Speaker 4 (30:19):
What's a deal. It's a deal, all right? Let me
go get Mike. You're becoming a fan.

Speaker 3 (30:24):
This is gonna be fun. Watch this man. Let's go
strade to him. Come on, Mike, bring it on, buddy.

Speaker 13 (30:30):
Hey, good morning, good good morning man.

Speaker 14 (30:33):
This morning.

Speaker 7 (30:33):
Yeah, I took off this morning, but I'm gonna be
fishing tomorrow.

Speaker 5 (30:36):
Now.

Speaker 8 (30:36):
You know it's okay.

Speaker 7 (30:39):
I prefer to use lures myself, but when I got
these customers from out oftown or wherever they want to
catch a few fish, well of course I will use
I will use some croakers and the time and uh,
you know, to let them catch a few fish. But
it's not that easy. If you're fishing over that heavy shell.
You're going to go through a dozen croakers before they
decide how to catch Fish's point, not that easy.

Speaker 4 (31:02):
You know what you know, you know what you ought
to do, Mike, for for practice.

Speaker 3 (31:06):
You ought to get some little rubber croakers and put
them on the hook and just let them practice for
the first ten minutes dragging them over that shell.

Speaker 4 (31:12):
So you don't lose the lot ones.

Speaker 7 (31:15):
Well, you know, it is what it is. But you're right, man,
that might that might help them a little bit, but
you know, you can always catch them over saying also,
but it seemed like in the summertime they do like
that shell because I think the shell holds cooler water.
You know, you got this eight eighty seven eighty nine
degrees water. But I prefer, you know, I've used shrip

(31:36):
year round and a lot of times when I got
customers with kids and they want to catch fish, I
go to live strip because they're going.

Speaker 3 (31:44):
To get a bite.

Speaker 7 (31:45):
It might be a hard head, it might be a croaker,
but you're having a good time. And I prefer to
use lures most of the time. But you know, use
lures in the summertime. You got to search for those fish,
and I bleeve I can find some fish. Might be
aware of that news. You can find them around the
final Yeah, no, you know, I just don't run but

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one trip a day. These captains that runs two or three.
I guess they're just greedy or they just starving to death.
I have no idea why they're doing it. It gets
hot out there. You don't want to take customers after
past eleven o'clock or all of the.

Speaker 4 (32:22):
Money all over the well, you know what else.

Speaker 3 (32:26):
It's honestly, if you go out there at say dawn, okay,
you're by the time you get to nine ten o'clock,
it's hot as blazes and nobody wants to be out
that long. Anyway, So I can't really I don't like
them doing two and three trips a day, but I
can't fault them because their crew is going to give

(32:47):
out anyway after about four or five hours out there
in August heat.

Speaker 4 (32:51):
You know, it's tough, man. It's tough to be out
there all day.

Speaker 7 (32:54):
Yeah, it's very tough. That the heat will take it
out of you. Especially this year. It's probably been one
of the hottest year we've hadded a long time, with
one hundreds of degrees temperatures even out on the water.
And then I tell my customers and I watch them
real close, make sure they drink water. You got tom
really watch them. And I think it's too hot, I
start the air conditioning. I turned the engine, make a
big circle. We come back. But you know, and I

(33:16):
don't always try to get my lina. I always want
to make sure they're having a good time. Ut they
look at the sunrise and they taking pictures. They're having
a great time. And most of these customers are from
out of town and they've never done it. It's a
fun time. You just got to know what kind of
customers you have got them. No, you know, I've been
doing this for thirty something years and I still don't.

(33:38):
I do not charge for kids to fish if they're
sixteen and under, but once they get a fishing license,
I do charge.

Speaker 3 (33:45):
BLI me, Hey, Mike, I got three more to catch
before the time, buddy, Yeah, yeah, yeah, thank you man.

Speaker 7 (33:50):
But I got this Labor Day weekend open. Anybody wants
to fish and try to catch that CCA tournament or whatever.
I've got four days. You fall to one five O seven,
one ninety three three. Hey, let's get together.

Speaker 3 (34:03):
You got my call, thanks buddy. All right, all right, audios.
That's my catchy AUTI. I've known him forever. He's been
so good. He really does do that too. If and
if you've never salt water fish before and you're telling
the truth, pinky square, he'll give you a little discount too,
just to make sure it works out. Okay, all right,
let's go to Alan first. I'll get to Rick and Day.

Speaker 4 (34:23):
What's up Allan?

Speaker 10 (34:25):
Hey?

Speaker 7 (34:25):
Ay?

Speaker 3 (34:25):
You doing I'm good.

Speaker 14 (34:26):
You know you don't have to keep me on. I'll
let you talk about it on the other side of
the break. But uh uh, I want glasses and I'm
having trouble, you know, uh finding me the right scope
and maybe, uh, you know, I'm having trouble to seed
to the scope. By god, I'm just trying to wonder
if I should get a scope with a bigger a
bigger optic where the you know, where my glass is
fit or whatever. So if you want to talk about

(34:49):
it other side of the break, I'll just hang out
and listen.

Speaker 3 (34:51):
Yeah, I'll tell you what. Yeah, let me do that.
I'm gonna just put scopes here and I'll come back
alan or yeah, I'll come back out and do that
on the other side because I want to catch Rick
and day before I get out.

Speaker 7 (35:04):
On this set. Yeah, parentough, Okay, I appreciate it.

Speaker 8 (35:06):
I'll be listening.

Speaker 3 (35:07):
You keep listening, buddy, Thank you man. Thanks all right,
let's get to Rick. What's up, Rick, morning, Good morning.

Speaker 8 (35:15):
Talk about Crokers for a second. Yeah, you know, I
think you're one year older than me.

Speaker 4 (35:22):
We're in the same boat.

Speaker 8 (35:25):
I don't remember. Back in the today, I hear people
talk about, you know, Croker is probably one of the
best tasting fish in the water. Okay, mm hm, no doubt,
no doubt. Okay, tell me this. Back in the seventies
and people think the same thing about Croker.

Speaker 3 (35:46):
They were catching the croaker is something I pointed out
by pointing out in every story I've done about this,
But he and the one that I'm righting now for
salt water sportsman, h early on croker's were that was
the go to fish for somebody who really was struggling
trying to catch speckled trout, struggling trying to catch a redfish. Man,
you could just soak some dead bait on the bottom

(36:09):
anywhere within twenty miles of the coast and catch a
croker and they're good to eat.

Speaker 4 (36:14):
They really are.

Speaker 7 (36:16):
Well, I know, and you know.

Speaker 8 (36:18):
I used fish dinner a lot, not on anymore, but
you know, back in the seventies, we kind of considered
them a trash fish. I mean they went into the
crab trap. I mean that's we didn't eat those croakers.

Speaker 3 (36:33):
Yeah, with you that you missed out on them, because
they are good, they're tasty.

Speaker 7 (36:38):
Man.

Speaker 8 (36:38):
Well, I'm just never back then. I don't remember anybody
ever ever even talking about it.

Speaker 3 (36:43):
Yeah, well, and going back not as far as you're
talking about. But in two thousand and two, as this
this whole wave of croaker fishing started up, we got
the state record croaker that still stands today because I
just don't think any of them are ever going to
grow up big enough to to get that big anymore.

(37:04):
But this that fish was twenty nine inches long, twenty
nine low croker five point four seven pounds, Yeah, twenty
nine inch croaker.

Speaker 8 (37:14):
No spot, no spot on the biggest light tail.

Speaker 3 (37:19):
It's a big it's a big fish.

Speaker 8 (37:21):
Man, that's big fishsh.

Speaker 3 (37:27):
No, no, well yeah, they're not gonna they're not gonna
verify as a state record if it's anything but and yeah,
it was just a golden just Atlantic croakers. How it's
it's qualified there or how it's designated? Yeah, that was it?

Speaker 5 (37:41):
Man.

Speaker 3 (37:42):
Well yeah, let me can we talk go ahead tomorrow.

Speaker 8 (37:45):
I I wanna talk about my my second favorite show.
You've probably heard of it fifty plus Yeah, I know it.
You you know that show.

Speaker 4 (37:55):
I've heard of it.

Speaker 8 (37:55):
Yeah, it's my second favorite show.

Speaker 3 (37:58):
Awesome, thank you.

Speaker 8 (38:00):
I there was a company, there was a subject yesterday
that you were talking about. I'm gonna talk about tomorrow.
I can get around to calling.

Speaker 10 (38:06):
All right, all right, but you got it.

Speaker 4 (38:08):
Thanks Rick, appreciate it.

Speaker 8 (38:09):
Man, boy, all right, let me.

Speaker 3 (38:12):
Go do this, go do this real quick. We'll squeeze
old guitar. Dave in here, Dave, what do you got?
I'll give you to the top here. We got a
couple of minutes.

Speaker 13 (38:21):
Well, last night up in the American Legion, they had
like a dance birthday party and everybody, everybody, they're probably
listening right now because what I what I go in there,
They're all like, hey, man, what's going? And then a
lot of the veterans that are in there that are younger,
they're miles and stuff there. They live vicariously through the

(38:42):
outdoor shows, you know, and uh, what a wonderful mean man, what.

Speaker 5 (38:50):
Kind of day?

Speaker 3 (38:50):
What kind of day you got planned today?

Speaker 10 (38:52):
Man?

Speaker 4 (38:52):
You gonna get outdoors?

Speaker 13 (38:54):
Well I'm out here right now, and I you know,
it's not that hot, and I need to steal haul
some more limbs out to the front.

Speaker 8 (39:02):
But uh yeah, you know, and and and you know,
I got my.

Speaker 13 (39:06):
Deerskin gloves and all that stuff, and I need to
go put a long sleeve shirt on so I don't
get all scratched up. And that's the fifty plus. You know,
when you get old, sometimes you got to put a
good shirt on so you don't get a lot of
bruises and stuff like that. Yeah, but you do, yeah,
how you real quick?

Speaker 7 (39:25):
I did.

Speaker 13 (39:25):
I went to a restaurant right down the street from
Saint Pis over there, and one of the gentlemen that
I was in there with, come to find out his
wife graduated. She was a senior when when I was
a freshman. And then come to find out he can
fix I got a viola and another guitar that I
want to help. Yeah, yeah, he's he builds guitars. So anyway,

(39:51):
I got his number and everything, and I'm gonna be like, yeah,
and he just lives not too far from here.

Speaker 10 (39:56):
Man.

Speaker 8 (39:58):
Yeah, well that's that.

Speaker 4 (40:01):
Yeah, I got back. I gotta get bouncing man.

Speaker 13 (40:05):
Thank you, go for it.

Speaker 7 (40:07):
Thank you.

Speaker 3 (40:07):
Great to hear from you, Dave, as always my friend,
ry buddy, Thank you, bet Audios. All right, we gotta
take a little break.

Speaker 1 (40:15):
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Speaker 7 (40:28):
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Speaker 3 (40:30):
Second out of the program starts right now, and I'm
gonna go back to our little talk about scopes. What
was that man's name? I've already I didn't I wrote scopes.
I didn't write his name down, and I'm so embarrassed.
I believe it was Alan, Alan, is it? That's exactly right.
I'm gonna write it down right now so I can
reference him again. So Alan wanted to know about wearing

(40:51):
glasses with scopes, and it really is not. It shouldn't
be an issue because your eye doesn't need to be
very close to that scope. Your eyes should be if
the scope is adjusted correctly and your eyeballs are working right,
you're gonna be three, maybe even four inches off that
scope at least two to two and a half. The

(41:14):
only thing you need to worry about there, and this
is where you might have to make a little extra investment,
is if you want to go ahead and just wear
your corrective lenses when you shoot, get plastic lenses, get
something that can withstand some impact, and you can get
ballistic prescription lenses where And that's not a bad idea

(41:37):
for dove hunting. If you need that protection and you
don't want to wear a little clip on sunglasses, you
want to wear quality sunglasses, go ahead and get some
quality impact resistant sunglasses in whatever your prescription is. But
back to the rifle scope. So long as you position
yourself properly, it shouldn't be that big deal. I would

(42:00):
invest in plastic lenses and not rely on your your
one pair. If you only have one pair of prescription eyewear,
then that's that's just asking for a lot of potential trouble.
It shouldn't be a problem either if you want to
adjust your scope, and if you if you don't mind

(42:22):
going back and forth real quick when a big buck
steps out and might only be there for a couple
of seconds, you can actually adjust your scope to match
up to your uncorrected vision. You can just use that,
just twist the back of the scope there to put
it in exactly whatever makes it the most crisp image downrange,

(42:45):
and so you don't have to wear the glasses at all.
But it's still not a bad idea to wear some
sort of shooting glasses, whether they're corrective or not. When
you're going to shoot a rifle like that, the last
thing you want is to get one of those big
old scope around your face and maybe even cut your
face open. But even worse I think would to would

(43:07):
be to maybe let go of the rifle or not
hold it properly, or have something else go wrong and
have those glasses while you're wearing them shatter. That would
that would be not not good, not good seven one
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(43:31):
and that if that's an option for you, that's not
also not a bad way to do it. If you're
gonna shoot with a scope, just leave your glasses at home,
or well, don't leave your glasses at home, take them
with you in case the the contacts mess up or
you get something scratching your eye like I actually had
this week. But one way or the other, just make

(43:52):
sure that you're protecting your own eyeballs.

Speaker 4 (43:56):
That's that's number one priority.

Speaker 3 (43:58):
And then number two priority is the the adjustment of
the scope to where it's either right for when you're
wearing your glasses and if you're if you're mounting the
rifle correctly and mounting the and and positioning the scope correctly,
it just shouldn't be that big an issue. And I'm
hoping hoping some of this makes sense anyway, if you're

(44:20):
if you're concerned and you're wondering, I would I would
go to a a gunsmith somewhere at one of the
shooting ranges. Go to America, or if you're up on
the north side of town, go out there to Carter's
Country and let them help you. Make sure that your
rifle is adjusted properly so that you can use the
scope with glasses, and then before you start shooting it again,

(44:42):
go get prescription glasses that are at the very least
plastic lenses and maybe even ballistic lenses. I don't for
deer anting, I don't know no necessarily that you have
to go to expensive.

Speaker 4 (44:55):
Bullet dodging glasses something like you.

Speaker 3 (44:58):
I would strongly recommend for dove hunting, because especially in
a field where you don't know who's there, if you're
out dove hunting with a bunch of strangers and there's
a lot of chaos, and especially the first week or
so when the birds still fly pretty low, I would
strongly recommend to anybody to have safety glasses on the
whole time you're in the field and don't take them

(45:20):
off unless you go hide behind a tree to grab
a drink of water or something. For deer hunting, known
I don't need.

Speaker 4 (45:29):
I don't think you.

Speaker 3 (45:29):
Really need to worry about a number eight pellet flying
into your deer stand and cracking your glasses or puncturing
an unprotected eye. Swear your safety stuff, eyes and ears,
eyes and ears, eyes and ears. That's that's top of
my list before I go anywhere with guns to go shoot.
And I don't care whether it's a handgun or rifle
of shotgun, whatever it is, I'm wearing ear and eye protection.

(45:53):
It just it makes no sense to do anything else.

Speaker 4 (45:56):
Seven one three two one two.

Speaker 3 (45:57):
I hope that helps Alan five seven night seven one
three two one two five seven nine zero.

Speaker 4 (46:04):
I think that.

Speaker 3 (46:05):
There actually got quite a few responses on the Croker thing,
and I appreciate all of them. I really do. Let
me go see if anything new has come in. Says,
where did this thing go? Why is it? Oh there,
it is right there. This computer, I tell you this
old and it's not. It's not old, man. I just
see either. I'm I'm relatively dialed into the technology of

(46:29):
the world. And by the way, I had a segment
on fifty plus on Thursday. I had a segment with
a guy who is the technology had the kind of
the head of technology for AARP talking about what seniors
do well with technology and what we kind of need
to learn more about, and it was an optimistic discussion.

Speaker 5 (46:50):
I think.

Speaker 3 (46:51):
I think most of us in my age group know
enough to handle our daily business. We're not as dialed
in as teenagers and young adults, clearly because we didn't
grow up with the technology. But I was encouraged by
what I heard, and I would encourage if you get

(47:12):
a chance to go listen to that podcast. And I
don't know whether Will played that particular segment on Friday
again or not, but either way you can find it.

Speaker 4 (47:22):
It was definitely there on Thursday.

Speaker 3 (47:24):
I know that Rudy Wade back in on the Little
League team, and I'll tell you this before we go out.
He said they can beat Florida, but that Venezuela team
is on a different level. They play like fifteen year olds,
which is actually fifteen years old. It's actually pretty good baseball.
That's what my son was this past season. He's sixteen now,

(47:48):
and that means there aren't near as many parents at
the games because most of the kids have their own
cars and they drive themselves because they think that's cool.
And yeah, Little League World Series, our hometown team, well
not the hometown team, but you know what I'm talking about.
Right out at the other side of the right out

(48:09):
there at Bernie, Texas team playing for the American Championship
today and hopefully they can beat Florida and move on.
Seven one three, two one two five, seven ninety. Email
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Speaker 1 (48:24):
On the way out of your Rockets and Astros live
Here we are Sports Talk seven ninety.

Speaker 12 (48:31):
The conversation continues this as The Doug Pike Show.

Speaker 3 (48:36):
Eight twenty on Sports Talk seven ninety The Doug Pike Show.
Thank you for listening. Certainly, do appreciate We've got all
kinds of stuff going on here. Where's the pale? There
it is? I thought i'd lost a page on which
I wrote my notes. That was kind of scary.

Speaker 4 (48:48):
All right.

Speaker 3 (48:49):
Starting off, we're gonna go to Jeff see what's on
his mind. What's up, Jeff, I'm here, can hear me?
I hear you very well.

Speaker 5 (48:58):
Appreciate this weekend military history. I think the two one
thirty was as important that everything else you mentioned. Progress Still, yeah,
that's probably why you mentioned that I don't know enough
about this, but I'm concerned with the I'm not concerned,
but are all these or all these Little League teams
all star teams? And it looks like they watered down

(49:20):
the Asian teams a little bit of distance cohesive this
culture and the time when easy really kick everybody's you know.

Speaker 3 (49:27):
What, almost every year. So I don't know.

Speaker 5 (49:30):
How they put this together. I guess I can petition somewhere,
but I think it's interesting and kind of disappointing if
that's what they did.

Speaker 3 (49:37):
Officially, what they do is cut it off at twelve
years old, and I don't know when you have to
be twelve and when you can turn thirteen. I haven't
looked at it that deeply, but it is supposed to
be for up to twelve years old. And some of
these kids didn't look like they could have driven themselves
to the games and maybe got the wife and kids
in the stands.

Speaker 5 (49:57):
You know.

Speaker 3 (49:58):
It's just it's amazing how big some of these kids are.
But there are those just unusually big kids. They early bloomers,
and they've got got a little five o'clock shadow in
the night games. It's tough, man. I don't know how
where they find these kids, but they're they're legit.

Speaker 5 (50:16):
Well That's what surprises me is a little Asian kids
are little, but they're fundamentals seeming to be sound just excellent. Yeah,
basketball players from other parts of the world, they passed better,
They take care of the ball well.

Speaker 3 (50:29):
That Those are fundamentals of the sport, and I think
in some cases the sport here has has ventured a
little bit away from that to flash shooting a lot
of three pointers in the NBA, for example, baseball, the
number of home runs that are hitting now versus teams

(50:51):
playing small ball, and you seeing a little bit of
small ball coming back. Even the spot will do it
if there's a man on first and second and there's
nobody out. A lot of these teams now are are
reverting to bunting those two guys into scoring position as
opposed to just hoping somebody in the next three guys
can bomb one out of there.

Speaker 5 (51:09):
I Tics and Strategy, thanks for doing that and bringing
the military history back. I appreciate it.

Speaker 3 (51:13):
Don't thank me. Thank rafter V Services. They and Phoenix Knives.
Both Phoenix Knives out there in Belleville. I'll be talking
about them in just a little bit. And then rafter
V Services, that's another company that stepped up when I
asked if anybody would help me get this thing going again,
and if you know anybody else who would like to
do this. We can do these on every station in

(51:35):
the country. We just have to have somebody to fund it.
And they'll get plenty of plenty of love from me
if they do that. I guarantee you that all I
gotta do is call me.

Speaker 5 (51:44):
Sounds like they did it quick. We talked about this.
I think Veterans Day, and you've got it done, and
I hope they stick with you for a while. I
think it's awesome.

Speaker 3 (51:53):
Yeah, I appreciate that, I really do. Thank you, Jeff,
all right, thank you, all right? Let him go one
more quick. Little League note and this I found very
interesting and no wonder everybody looks so happy and fresh
in the stands. Little League International at.

Speaker 4 (52:11):
The regional level.

Speaker 3 (52:12):
I don't know whether Little League does this, but for
the World Series in Little League baseball and softball, Little
League International pays all the expenses of the dozens of
teams that make it to the World Series level in
Little League Baseball and softball, travel meals and lodging all covered.

Speaker 10 (52:36):
Now.

Speaker 3 (52:37):
I don't know if that goes to parents and aunts
and uncles. But getting any of that taken care of
like that is a pretty darn good deal for them.
And it only makes sense because I guarantee you there
would be some teams in these United States that would
have a difficult time, no matter how good they were.

(52:57):
That's a lot of money to raise to be at
the Little League World Series for I don't know how
long they're all there trying to get through that entire tournament.
So that's where some of the money goes when you're
when you're shelling out for Little League at this start
of the summer every year seven one three, two one
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Speaker 4 (53:20):
Uh Alan back to you with the scopes.

Speaker 3 (53:23):
I really, I was thinking during that last break about
this a little bit, and there's just no there's no
reason you can't either wear your glasses or not wear
your prescription glasses when you're using a scope. It's a
it's a personal preference. Really. Back when I wore glasses
instead of contacts, I shot with my glasses. Now, I

(53:46):
was too dumb and too broke to buy shooting glasses
at that point, but I went ahead and adjusted my
scope for my prescription, and you gotta be you got
to make sure you mount the rifle exactly the same
way each time. Is and you're wearing corrective lenses because
any movement you put into your head kind of bends
that light a little bit and it could impact your shot.

(54:09):
Crosshairs are crossairs, though, and if you're putting the crossairs
on where it's supposed to be and they're doing their jobs,
it'll work. Lewis weighed in during the break, by the way,
and wanted to know some specific phone numbers and whatnot
of where he might be able to go find a
good dove hunt coming up here before the opener. And

(54:29):
I don't know when you're planning on going, but if
you're planning on going on opening day, it's already going
to be very, very difficult. It's going to be very
difficult to find somebody who's got birds and who's willing
to throw you in. Now, there is a guy on
the west side of town where there should be a
lot of birds.

Speaker 4 (54:47):
And according to him.

Speaker 3 (54:49):
When I talked to him a couple of weeks, well
was this past weekend actually, he said he did have
a little bit of room, not maybe on opening day,
but somewhere in the middle, I'm trying to find his
hold on. Let me find his there. He is right there.
Mitchell Holder out there at Waterfowl Specialties said he was
looking pretty dog on good on doves. And from what

(55:09):
I hear out there, if they get shot out of
one field, they're going to go to another field, They're
just going to go round and round. The bottom line
is uh, if you want to call him, he's at
two eight one seven four four eighteen eighty eight. I'll
give you a second. I hope you got a penhandy,
or you can open up your phone real quick. If
you're young, you can do it on your phone faster
and you could go find a pencil. Probably call Mitchell.

(55:32):
Tell him I said the call, and I think he
can make room for you. Two eight one seven four
four eighteen eighty eight. Now, there are a lot of
guys on the west side have birds, so I don't
think that would be a problem if you're looking for
him on that side of town. If you're going to
the east side, be careful because there are for as
many great people out there in the waterfowl guiding business,

(55:53):
in the dove hunting guiding business, there are a few,
just like in cars and in appliances and in any
other end of there are a few that will just
take your money and say, oh, you know, that's hunting.
Sometimes they're here, sometimes they're not. Uh, ask a few questions,
Ask how long their birds have been around? Ask them? Uh,
just ask as many questions as you can, and then say, hey,

(56:16):
look if I get out there and just get totally
skunked and don't even fire a shot, are you gonna
let me come back out?

Speaker 4 (56:21):
A lot of a.

Speaker 3 (56:22):
Lot of outfitters will do that for you, but they
might just they might just have nothing but bad holes
that avent you. You'll get tired of coming. So be careful.
Do you do your diligence. But if you call Mitchell, Mitchell,
take care of you. Let me get to Aaron real
quick for the break at the bottom. Aaron, what's up, buddy?

Speaker 10 (56:39):
Hey, how much how you doing this morning?

Speaker 3 (56:41):
I'm doing great, man, I got all kinds of stuff
to talk about.

Speaker 6 (56:44):
Good, good, good, well down here in mc callan, butts.
I'm a little bit R and R so excited about that.

Speaker 4 (56:51):
Very nice yeah down here on a date. But it
brought the fishing pooles just in case.

Speaker 10 (56:55):
It didn't work out.

Speaker 3 (56:56):
But haven't had haven't had to break out the fishing
rods yet.

Speaker 6 (57:02):
Well not yet, but you know, maybe we'll test the
waters with Harrison to speak with.

Speaker 3 (57:08):
That too, do that man? Do that?

Speaker 6 (57:10):
Anyways? The gentleman I go, I go Elk cutting with
was was adamant that I side in and shoot with
the same power, you know at the range and when
I'm shooting at an.

Speaker 4 (57:25):
Elk couldn't agree more.

Speaker 6 (57:26):
Yeah, yeah, okay, Well, I just want to know, you know,
with modern scopes, if that was still you know, something
that I really needed to focus in on, or you know,
some of these shots were taking are an excess of
four hundred yards and you know, having having that scope
down at the lowest power, you know, like that.

Speaker 4 (57:48):
That doesn't look very big four does it?

Speaker 7 (57:53):
No?

Speaker 6 (57:53):
It does not, especially if you're shooting at the top
of it.

Speaker 10 (57:56):
You know.

Speaker 6 (57:56):
I'm gonna use my dad's old whether it be thirty
odd six, and he has a scope from the from
the late eighties.

Speaker 10 (58:03):
I like to update.

Speaker 6 (58:04):
So I'm sort of to see how how modern scopes
have changed.

Speaker 4 (58:09):
That are meaning I.

Speaker 3 (58:10):
Don't know that they've changed a whole lot. The quality
of the lenses has gotten better over time, but rifle
scopes and in their contemporary makeup are that's kind of
an if it's not broke, don't fix it thing. You
can buy super high power scopes and you can do
all of that, but.

Speaker 4 (58:31):
A lot of that.

Speaker 3 (58:31):
The higher you the more magnification you use, the more
amplification of any little tweak in twitch. And that's why
you hear some of these snipers and and really good
long range shooters talk about shooting between heart beats. They
you know, and that's that's you're talking about. Really dialed in.

(58:52):
Then if you can you can feel your heart beating,
and you're gonna wait until in between beats because that
might jiggle the rifle. Well, that's that's high grade stuff
right there. My dad was a Marster of the Marine. Yeah,
show it off.

Speaker 6 (59:08):
He hit one going over a fence in mid air.

Speaker 10 (59:11):
And dropped it.

Speaker 4 (59:12):
And then I can't make that up.

Speaker 3 (59:14):
Yeah, No, I've heard about people doing that. I haven't
had the opportunity yet, but if I get it, I might.
I might take the shot at at a reasonable range.
I wouldn't try to do it very far out, but
when that bullet can get there before the before it
touches the ground, I might might take a swing at
that shot.

Speaker 6 (59:31):
Do you think it's worth it?

Speaker 4 (59:33):
It's a late eighties loophole.

Speaker 6 (59:35):
Three point nine.

Speaker 7 (59:36):
And you know, if I could say it's a.

Speaker 3 (59:37):
Good scot yeah, bucks, yeah, I don't think there's anything
wrong with the scope. But when you go to the range,
first of all, for elk cutting, I shoot at two
hundred at least, and if you can get to a
three hundred somewhere, then go to the three hundred and
just so kind of have yourself dialed in there.

Speaker 4 (59:56):
And then maybe you.

Speaker 3 (59:57):
Know, I mean, if you've got time and you've got
the where all I would I would shoot it at
two hundred and I'd shoot it at four hundred, and
then kind of see where the bullet don't change anything.
Just shoot at the bull's eye and see where you're
high and low comes in. See how much bullet drop
you get at four as compared to two. I dial
it in at too, and then and then measure your

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bullet drop at four and just tuck it away.

Speaker 4 (01:00:21):
And then when you get where you're going, you do
the same thing.

Speaker 3 (01:00:24):
You shoot it two and four. Make sure your scope
hadn't been dinged up in travel or whatnot, and uh
and go from there and that should that should really
die in.

Speaker 6 (01:00:33):
I would think, yeah, at four hundred yards, I mean,
you know, there's a lot of editing that goes into
TV and people talk about four hundred like it's nothing now,
But that's a long way.

Speaker 10 (01:00:44):
It is.

Speaker 3 (01:00:44):
It's a very long shot, and you've you've got to
I would highly recommend either going going to American or
going up to to Carters on Treashwig up there on
the north side and get out there and shoot that
longer range. American goes out to six hundred yards, so
you can you can air it out out there and
know exactly what that rifle's doing. But that you know,

(01:01:06):
you had a four hundred even if there's a real
strong breeze blowing across the across the prairie or the
mountains or whatever, you've got to take that into account
a little bit.

Speaker 6 (01:01:15):
Yeah, and luckily your heart's note going and you haven't been,
you know, walking around one morning.

Speaker 3 (01:01:19):
Yeah, oh yeah, you just calm, you just rolled out
of bed. Yeah, heart reach, heart rached around thirty just.

Speaker 4 (01:01:26):
Just easy going.

Speaker 3 (01:01:27):
Yeah, just wait, yeah, I got two seconds to pull
this trigger, no set up a yeah, get your lazy
boy recliner shooting stand out. Oh my god, hey, good
luck Aaron. Man, if you're going on an ail, count
your way ahead of me right now. It's a cow,
but who cares, man? They eat better than a bull.

Speaker 10 (01:01:49):
Oh good night?

Speaker 4 (01:01:50):
They all right, you two.

Speaker 3 (01:01:53):
Aaron's had been glad you're back home. Man, I see
you audios all right, George. I want to hear what.

Speaker 4 (01:02:00):
You got to say.

Speaker 3 (01:02:00):
But I also know that if I don't go to
a break right now, Melvin's gonna Melvin's gonna blow and
he's getting no. I know what he's gonna do. If
I don't go to break right now, he's gonna play
more Taylor Swift.

Speaker 4 (01:02:10):
We'll take a break. We'll be right back on the
way we are.

Speaker 12 (01:02:14):
Sportstock seven nineties, Houston Sports Where you go with iHeartRadio
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Speaker 3 (01:02:22):
Doug Pike Show on Sports Talk seven ninety that's a
good old song. That one's been around a while. How
long would you do you see when that was relieved?
When it was released, jess Key, I just I remember it.
I remember it like it was from my teen years.
That's about right, probably let me get to doctor George

(01:02:44):
because he'd been sitting there a while.

Speaker 5 (01:02:45):
What's up, Doc, Well, I was listening to you talking
about scoach.

Speaker 10 (01:02:51):
Sir, everything in our whole life has changed dramatically.

Speaker 3 (01:02:55):
That's true.

Speaker 10 (01:02:56):
But every distance gun I have a scope cost here
three times as much as a gun.

Speaker 3 (01:03:01):
You know, that's a very important thing to realize. It's
not because the guns are. They're made to such tight tolerances.
Now that there's a couple of manufacturers even guarantee one
minute m o A or whatever it is.

Speaker 10 (01:03:15):
Browning, Yeah, yeah, Browning, Uh I did They're just tika,
They're just Seikoh, there's a yeah. And at one time
the Japanese steel was kind of looked down upon them.
They were doing a pretty good job.

Speaker 3 (01:03:30):
They are.

Speaker 10 (01:03:32):
I grew up Wyoming, and also, you know, just the ballistics.
When I grew up Wyoming, there was a thirty six
or thirty thirty that was about it. Then came seven
millimeter I think, then three hundred h and h magnet
and uh, boys, you could tell you'd hear pop pop pop,
and then you'd hear that cannon. Somebody shoal. It's a

(01:03:55):
big about When I was sixty five hours out there
shooting at three hundred yards Remington with a Sawarski scope
on it, and I could hit a tea cup all
day long at three hundred yards.

Speaker 3 (01:04:07):
Wow.

Speaker 10 (01:04:08):
And then of course the uh you know then that
the factors that get you off target, off center and
prese exponentially, you know, once you get past a certain point.

Speaker 3 (01:04:22):
Sure.

Speaker 10 (01:04:23):
But I was listening to Klattner does a distance YouTube
and she said, well, we'll ask you guys shooting, and said,
why did you get that twenty five power scope? And
guy said, because they don't make a twenty six.

Speaker 3 (01:04:36):
Oh good golly, what that both ball on that?

Speaker 4 (01:04:42):
George?

Speaker 3 (01:04:43):
Do you want ultra magnification or do you want just
to be able to shoot without worrying about heartbeats and
all that stuff.

Speaker 10 (01:04:53):
Well, I think you can adjust them for most of
what I shoot SI twenty five and so dive it
in where you want it, and then, uh, you know,
pretty much everybody's shooting first vocal plane because your cross
theirs don't change right, and then m L a versus radius,

(01:05:13):
it's it's uh, you know, kind of it's easier to
figure out moment of angle. I think is just a
lot quicker, but you can. I dialed in that the
turrets on that SOARSTI and it and for one hundred
yards three hundred yards it was an inch low. Click
it up, you know, quarter of return right on. They're

(01:05:35):
they're really phenomenal. So quality of the scope is, man,
I got to have a decent gun, but the quality
of the scope is if it ain't first, it's tied
for first.

Speaker 3 (01:05:48):
Yes, yeah, I would agree.

Speaker 4 (01:05:49):
I would agree.

Speaker 3 (01:05:50):
It's kind of like back when I was in a
former life in the DJing business, people ask me about
sound systems and and what, you know, what kind of
received where they ought to get. I don't care what
receiver you get. Pay money, pay put half your money
in the speakers, and then throw whatever's left at a
turntable and a receiver, because it's it's the speakers that

(01:06:11):
make a sound system, and it's the like you're talking about.

Speaker 4 (01:06:15):
The Japanese steel is good.

Speaker 3 (01:06:17):
Now, there's a lot of there are a lot of
good barrels coming out, but it's it's the load, and
it's it's the load and it's the scope that make
an actual a rifle more accurate. I'm spitting it out
with all kinds of Globity Goog ought to be running
for pass.

Speaker 10 (01:06:35):
I got a Browning ex bo all in six and
a half creed more than Bennington and then Christensen arms Man,
a friend of mine does a lot of his own loading.
I left that gun with him and you get the
load dialed end. He was putting one hole in a
piece of paper for five rounds in one hundred yards. Wow.

Speaker 3 (01:06:56):
Yeah, I don't doubt that.

Speaker 4 (01:06:57):
And it's that's.

Speaker 10 (01:06:58):
Something I go ahead and that's you know, that's a
lot of factors. But you get a you get a
load that you know swat offs. Your friend of mine,
Sugarlham police retired sometime ago. You said, this gun likes
this bullet. Yeah, gun likes that bullet. Yeah.

Speaker 3 (01:07:15):
I just made a note to talk about that when
we come back from the break, because that's something that
that I've been preaching forever. And it's it's so expensive
to go out and buy him all these days. But
if you've got two or three friends who shoot the
same caliber you do, then and each of you goes
and buys a box of a specific lot from a
different manufacturer, different bullet weight, whatever, you got four chances

(01:07:39):
to get it right with the one that your rifle
really likes. And that's then when you figure that out,
you go back to wherever that got bought and you
buy four or five boxes of it from exactly the
same lot, exactly the same run, and now you can.

Speaker 4 (01:07:52):
Just shoot until you run out of those.

Speaker 8 (01:07:55):
Yeah.

Speaker 3 (01:07:55):
Yeah, I'll talk.

Speaker 10 (01:07:56):
About this on. Really enjoy the show.

Speaker 3 (01:07:58):
Thank you, Doc, great, appreciate your input anytime. Yes, sir,
by the way, all right, we got to take a break.

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Speaker 3 (01:08:18):
Fifty three on Sports Talk seven ninety. Man, this show's
going pretty fast, would you say, Melvin or no? Of
course you disagree? All right, well, I'm getting I got
word from my buddy Mike, my glass man. If you
ever need a window replaced, boy, if you're if you've
got about a twelve year old son who bounces one

(01:08:38):
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I hope he doesn't mind me promoting his company Glass
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(01:09:00):
some work for me at my house and and and
you did it really well and really quickly too. Seven
three seven ninety Email me Doug Pick at iHeartMedia dot com.

Speaker 10 (01:09:11):
Uh.

Speaker 3 (01:09:11):
He he mentioned another contact for dove hunting, and I'm
hesitant to give it out because that guy hunts in
the same area where my buddy Mitchell does, and Mitchell
and I have worked together. And anyway, the good news
is there's a lot of birds in Okampo. So if
you need somebody, shoot me an email. Maybe I could
share them both with you. But I'm just gonna I'm

(01:09:33):
gonna kind of keep moving because I got a bunch
of stuff I need to cover. I wanted to go
back to the rifle thing and talk about what doctor
George and I were talking about right before the break,
right before the break, and what he mentioned late in
the deal is finding the right load for your rifle.
And I talk about this every hunting season. I've probably

(01:09:54):
mentioned it in the in the past month. I bet
I've at least hit it a couple of three times.
If you have friends who the same caliber you do,
gather up yourselves and plan to meet at the range
on a early early on a morning when.

Speaker 4 (01:10:08):
It's not too bloody hot, because heat.

Speaker 3 (01:10:11):
First of all, heat will move those bullets too, because
when that barrel heats up, and it doesn't take long
to heat up a barrel when it's ninety five ninety
eight degrees, at least, if you get out super early,
you might be able to squeeze in about an hour
of decent shooting to really find out which bullets, which
loads your rifle likes the best, before it gets too

(01:10:33):
hot to keep going on. If you can put your
if you can't put your your wrist on that barrel
and not yank it away because it's so bloody hot,
you're okay. If you have to pull that thing away
and it's kind of burning your wrist, and just wait
till it cools down, which it won't do at three
o'clock in the afternoon for the next week or two.

Speaker 4 (01:10:52):
Well anyway, so cool season.

Speaker 3 (01:10:53):
Taking care of business, find those guys and meet up. Everybody,
go by a different bullet weight, a different brand, manufacture whatever,
and meet up and run a couple of three round
checks through each one of your with each one of
those loads through your rifle, and you'll find one it

(01:11:15):
likes my seven mag for what it's worth. Actually loved
the cheap Remington load that I was able to buy
years ago, and I bought I don't know, like eight
or ten boxes of this stuff and a whole lot
of pigs and more than a couple of deer succumb
to that. But it was and I tested against some

(01:11:36):
really high dollar rounds and not a big deal. That
wasn't working out as well. When I got to those
and just ran them through there, they just were tight
as just tight as tight it could be in the groups.
Let me get Phillip real quick before we have to
go to this break. Hopefully we can get him in before.
What's up, buddy, he does?

Speaker 4 (01:11:55):
I'm good man.

Speaker 3 (01:11:56):
How are you?

Speaker 10 (01:11:57):
I'm doing well?

Speaker 15 (01:11:58):
I hate down our hunting lease and Garwood have an
our annual kickoff meeting.

Speaker 4 (01:12:02):
Oh good for you.

Speaker 16 (01:12:04):
Yeah, anually, I.

Speaker 15 (01:12:06):
Went by Academy last night to buy my hunting license. Yeah,
and I'm a lot time member thanks to you.

Speaker 4 (01:12:14):
The article you wrote the Chronicle.

Speaker 15 (01:12:15):
About when I was twenty five twenty six had to
say that.

Speaker 3 (01:12:19):
Was a long time, A couple of days ago. Yeah,
you know what that was so smart? Man, I wish
I was as smart as you.

Speaker 4 (01:12:28):
And I wrote the art.

Speaker 3 (01:12:30):
The piece I wrote was about lifetime hunting and fishing licenses,
and Philip took my advice to heart and bought one.
And now I don't know how much money you've saved, man, one.

Speaker 15 (01:12:40):
Hundreds, So in sixty eight bucks, I've got the full
combo fishing hunting.

Speaker 2 (01:12:46):
So we're going through the process.

Speaker 10 (01:12:47):
You know, they asked me for.

Speaker 4 (01:12:48):
My driver's license.

Speaker 15 (01:12:49):
If he doesn't ask me the questions about how many ducks? Oh, friends, license?
And I bought the federal duck stamp.

Speaker 16 (01:12:59):
You know how that work?

Speaker 15 (01:12:59):
Yeah, and now I think it's thirty one bucks. Think
about what that thing you said?

Speaker 3 (01:13:03):
Oh my gosh. Yeah, they'd started out there like a
buck or two bucks.

Speaker 15 (01:13:07):
Yeah, so thirty one dollars for the wow, federal migratory
game stamp. And I look at it. I'm like, sir,
I think I'm supposed to get him certified. He's like,
it sirts high. So yeah, you're supposed to ask you
some question. He's like, I guess you're right.

Speaker 3 (01:13:21):
Oh my gosh, bout.

Speaker 15 (01:13:22):
On the screen and then he printed it out and
you could see where the you know, they mail you
that stamp and they give you a date printed copy.

Speaker 3 (01:13:31):
Yeah, and apparently apparently Now.

Speaker 15 (01:13:33):
I haven't done a lot of research into this, but
they have a digital copy that you can do on
your hunting license.

Speaker 10 (01:13:39):
Have you run about this?

Speaker 3 (01:13:40):
I haven't not that part of it.

Speaker 16 (01:13:41):
Yeah, you get a digital copy.

Speaker 15 (01:13:43):
It seems somewhat complicated because then you would kill a
deer in the process of how you tag it is
a little complicated, But I'm a curious to any of
the people out there that are listening right now have
actually uh utilized that what their experience is doing with
the digital copy.

Speaker 10 (01:13:58):
Just got to throw.

Speaker 4 (01:13:58):
Digital copy of that stamp?

Speaker 3 (01:14:02):
Oh yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. We talked about that.

Speaker 4 (01:14:04):
Yeah, we talked about that a lot last.

Speaker 3 (01:14:06):
Week about the just the online license and the majority
told me because I'm I'm old and I haven't done
it yet, but it's not as complicated as you're thinking.
Once you're in their system, you can just give them
your driver's license number and they can look you up.

Speaker 16 (01:14:20):
So, okay, so you kill a deer, how do you
tag that?

Speaker 2 (01:14:23):
Ben?

Speaker 15 (01:14:23):
Because you don't actually have the physical dagli like you
do with your physical copy of your license.

Speaker 3 (01:14:28):
Well you do it all electronically, you punching all your
information into their system. And it's time stamp. So hey,
I got to run to break, buddy. It's great to
hear from you, you know.

Speaker 4 (01:14:38):
It is you and your boys.

Speaker 3 (01:14:40):
Man, Yeah, you too. Yeah, brings back good memories, I will, man,
you're likewise, Yeah, yours is doing well. I know, all right, buddy,
I see you. That's Philip Mount, an old friend of mine.
He invited me to go duck hunting with him and
his brother in law years ago. Man, and we struck
up a pretty good friendship and we stay in touch
a little bit, and I'm glad of that too.

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Speaker 4 (01:15:15):
All right, here we go.

Speaker 3 (01:15:17):
Third and final hour of the program starts right now,
and I will I think I'll shift over real quickly
at least and give you an update from the BMW.
Let me lean in here so I can see what
I'm looking at. Put the right mouse in my hands,
so I can click on that and get this leaderboard
up from the BMW Adam Scott There it is Adam

(01:15:39):
Scott's at thirteen under par through two rounds, shoots sixty
eight and then goes out yesterday and drops a little
sixty three on the field. And his sixty three wasn't
the only one. So Scott's at thirteen a whole sleeve
back would be Keegan Bradley at ten, Ludwig Aberg who

(01:16:00):
also shot sixty three yesterday. That's just crazy. He is
at nine under par. Alex Norrin's at eight, Taylor Pendrith
is at seven. This may be the biggest stretch of
guys I've seen that are all occupying one spot in
a long time. And then at six under par, Corey
connorson song Am Seawoo Kim and Patrick Cantley at five.

(01:16:22):
There's a name that I haven't mentioned yet that everybody's
wondering where the heck he is, and that's Scottie Scheffler.

Speaker 4 (01:16:27):
And right now I.

Speaker 3 (01:16:28):
Feel like he's just coasting. He's just coasting. He's all
the way down at one under par, tied for twenty
something I think twenty three, maybe twenty ninth Scotty Scheffler
tied for twenty ninth at one under par with Tony
Finow and Robert McIntyre.

Speaker 4 (01:16:45):
Still a lot of golf left.

Speaker 3 (01:16:47):
But even for Scotty Scheffler that's making up twelve shots.

Speaker 4 (01:16:52):
It'd be pretty hard two days.

Speaker 3 (01:16:55):
There would have to be just this a collective of
train wrecks ahead of him, even for him to even
get a sniff. But he doesn't need it. He doesn't
need it. He's Scotty Scheffler. He's number one in the
world by strong wide margin. This year has been it's
been Scotty's year. He's got a new member of the family.
He's winning tournaments right and left. He just can't lose.

(01:17:18):
BMW going on up in Colorado by the way, at
Castle Rock, so more power to them. They got two
days to go, and something tells me they're not going
to get rained out. I wouldn't be surprised to see them.
Maybe in long sleeve. Sure, I don't know what the
temperature is up there. Oh here it is right here.
It's seventy two miles or seventy two miles seventy two

(01:17:40):
degrees at Castle Pines Golf Club. And that is not bad.
There'll be some guys in short sleeves, there'll be a
couple of guys in longer sleeves, and maybe some of
them even in those old sun blocking sleeves.

Speaker 4 (01:17:54):
I'm thinking about buying some of those.

Speaker 3 (01:17:56):
If anybody, if any of you have an opinion, a
strong opinion on them one word or the other, where
you either you really count on them and love them
or you couldn't care less. I'd be interested in knowing.
And by the way, if you're wondering about FedEx cup standings,
as I mentioned, Scottie Scheffler number one, Xander Schaffley number two,

(01:18:17):
and the well, they're official points. Uh. Scotty's at sixty
five thirty three, Shaffley's at five thou thirty seven. In
third Matsuyama he is at thirty eight ninety nine. So
once you drop under Scheffler, they just go away really quickly.
He's kind of in the catbird seat. Not a bad

(01:18:38):
year to be Scotty Scheffer. I guarantee you seven one
three two one two five seven ninety Email me Doug
Pike at iHeartMedia dot com. Can't wait for Dan Matthews
to come in here. In about forty five minutes because
I have a theory on on what happened to their
game last night and why it went south and why
we lost to a bomb of walk off Grand Slam. Basically,

(01:19:03):
have a hunch, Well it wasn't a walk off. We
still I believe they got that in the bottom of
the eighth in any event, Oh yeah, that's well they
had to They had to get in the bottom of
the eighth because there wasn't a bottom of the ninth
that I recall. Either way, we lost the game, But
I'll talk to Dan about that. I want to go

(01:19:23):
back to where was it? Where are my notes stand by?
I got to open up this page and take a
look and see what I was going to talk about.
Oh yeah, a couple of things going on. The Tiger
Woods and Roy McElroy starting that nighttime amazing fun, the
promising a thrill a minute golf option that is other

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than other than the PGA Tour.

Speaker 4 (01:19:50):
And live golf.

Speaker 3 (01:19:51):
They may be on the hook when they they're supposed
to launch in January, okay, and there was damage to
their venue down in Florida, and they may be on
the hook. Their corporation, some of them, whatever, I don't
think it. Either one of them is gonna come out
of pocket on this, but they're The damage is estimated

(01:20:15):
to potentially cost as much as fifty million dollars fifty
million to fix the place up. I don't know about you,
but I'd have a hard time coming up with fifty
million dollars?

Speaker 4 (01:20:31):
Melbourne. Can can I count on you to cover it?

Speaker 3 (01:20:33):
Be like you and me having to cover what about
fifty bucks? I can I can cover you on that.
Give me twenty, Give me twenty and I'll put up
thirty and will be good.

Speaker 4 (01:20:45):
Yeah, you know. And that's the.

Speaker 3 (01:20:47):
Conversation that that McElroy and Woods are having. They're saying
the same thing, give me thirty and I'll put up twenty.
But they're talking about millions of dollars. Wow, to fix
this place. I don't know what broke. I don't know
what broke it, but apparently it's fifty million dollars to
cover a lot of damage.

Speaker 4 (01:21:05):
I would think, Well, they have the money to fix it.

Speaker 3 (01:21:07):
I bet they do. I bet they they probably they
probably dropped that probably got that much in the sofa cushions. Man.

Speaker 4 (01:21:14):
Yeah, just their names alone.

Speaker 3 (01:21:15):
Well, yeah, we'll kind of like, come yeah, come on, well,
somebody's gonna have to pay for it, and the venue
clearly has already kind of said that they're not going
to pay for it. So I don't know what it is,
but if they want to start on time, they're gonna
have to poney up. It's an interesting story and one
you can find clearly at the at the website. But yeah,
there you go.

Speaker 4 (01:21:36):
All right, So I'll tell you what.

Speaker 3 (01:21:38):
Let's take this break early because when we come back,
I'm gonna kind of shift gears. Unless somebody wants to
talk golf, feel free to email me or or call,
and we'll we'll shift back to golf very quickly. We
can pivot around here on a spin on a dime
man and do whatever you guys want to do. Hold
on what Billy got here? Oh yeah, Billy Stoker weighed
doing on the sun sleeves. When Billy's Billy, all these opinions,

(01:22:01):
I definitely trust. I definitely trust He's GM right now,
Bay Forest Golf Course down there on the south side
of town.

Speaker 4 (01:22:08):
Here's a deal.

Speaker 3 (01:22:09):
Absolutely, get some sun sleeves. I wear them daily. Keeps
the direct heat off and makes it feel like you're
not baking. Oh that for that reason none other, even
if it wasn't changing the penetration of sunlight into my skin. Boy,
I got away with it when I was young. I
don't think I'm getting away with it anymore. So I'm
gonna get some and wear them every day every time

(01:22:31):
I go out. I like the idea of it keeping
the direct heat off, and it makes sense. The sleeves
are white, or you can get them in almost any color,
but I'm gonna wear the white ones, and it might
make my arms look a little bright, but I'll have
sunglasses on anyway. Keeps the heat off and makes it
feel like you're not baking. I'm all for anything that
does that. So it's like the UV clothing, right, Yeah,
it's just UV, that's all it is. UV protection, But

(01:22:54):
it's also reflecting the heat off of your arm rather
baking the heat into your arm. Can you feel like
you've got like you got two sausages over the grill?
Holy cow, those those arms out there swinging a golf
club man. The last couple of times I played with
the Geezer group with whom I play out there at Blackhawk,

(01:23:15):
it's just been all we could do to get around
a golf course and not fall over. It's it's just
so hot and so muggy. I walked out the door
this morning and I just thought I was just gonna melt.

Speaker 4 (01:23:26):
The humidity was.

Speaker 3 (01:23:27):
High and the temperature was high, and it's just all
you can do to keep from just keep from bursting
into flames. That's the way I look at it.

Speaker 4 (01:23:36):
All right, let's take this break.

Speaker 3 (01:23:37):
Guy Lee has a rambled thank you so much, so, Billy,
I appreciate the input on that. That's all I need
to hear is if Stoker likes him, I like them.

Speaker 12 (01:23:46):
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Speaker 3 (01:23:54):
Now the more Doug Fight Doug Flight Show on Sports
Talk seven ninety. I had to send a contact number
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my painter, and I think the two of them are
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(01:24:17):
about that right now.

Speaker 4 (01:24:18):
Make that go away, That go away.

Speaker 3 (01:24:21):
I got to finish that piece when I when I
get finished with the show here, I'm going to go
over and take care of that saltwater sportsman piece. I
got the information I needed from several of you. Thank
you for responding when I was asking about how you
felt about crokers as live bait, and it's that's.

Speaker 4 (01:24:37):
That's not an issue that I think.

Speaker 3 (01:24:39):
Uh, we don't need to be at odds with each
other over whether or not to use crokers as bait.
And then, like I've said, any any live bait that
you want to use, it's lawful. You can't put a
baby speckl troutler on a hook, but boy if you could,
whoah man, Uh, there are there are places where there

(01:24:59):
are there are lots of little bitty trout so many
that I wouldn't be surprised if you could chum them
up and throw a cast net over them and use
them like pilchers or finger mullet. But man, oh man,
they would be good bait. Illegal it's a game fish.
You can't do that, not with them, not with baby redfish.

Speaker 4 (01:25:16):
But shrimp and croakers.

Speaker 3 (01:25:19):
I think anything that helps people get their limit, and
when the limits are set right, it's okay that a
good number of people get their limits seed, especially when
the limits only three. I don't think I don't think
that with a limit set at three fish daily at

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fifteen to twenty inches. I don't think that's gonna hurt
the population of speckle trout at all. In fact, I
think it's going to greatly help at both ends of
the both ends of the life cycles of these fish.
They're going to be more fish still in the water
to breed, and they're gonna be more fish reaching this

(01:26:04):
epic proportion. Now, is there going to come a time
when we have three foot trout swimming around the bays
all the time, or in.

Speaker 4 (01:26:12):
Any bay system all the time?

Speaker 3 (01:26:14):
Probably not. Thirty two thirty three inches is still a
huge and always will be a huge speckled trout. I
don't think the top end is gonna move out much more,
because there's there's only so long that these fish can
live before old age just takes them out, just like us.

Speaker 4 (01:26:33):
Their parts wear out, just like ours.

Speaker 3 (01:26:35):
Two they get a little slow, and if they get
a little slow, that means they're gonna be catching less food.
If they catch less food, they don't make it. Boy,
are there going to be some twenty eight to thirty
two inch fish? And presuming we can get away without
getting any major winter issues, I so hesitate to say

(01:26:59):
that one word, and I'm not gonna do it. As
long as winter doesn't beat us up, We're going to
see some fantastic fishing, absolutely fantastic fishing, by the way, tomorrow,
and rest assured that current situations with speckle trout up
and down the coast really are overall better than a

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lot of people expected this year. Now, that's not because
we changed the limit a few months ago or a
couple of months ago. Even the reason for that is
because we we had more fish probably within the fishery
than we even thought. Then maybe that who knows whether
the people who set these limits knew how many fish

(01:27:43):
we had in the fishery overall, though it looks pretty
dog on good and I'm about to when I get
finished here today, I'm going to make a phone call
and might have to go to one of my favorite
places on the planet and not jump in the water,
just stand next to the water. I'm determined at some
point to go down to North Padre Island and get

(01:28:03):
back there. I want to get back there this summer,
and sooner the better. From what I'm hearing talking with
Cliff Web back and forth. But what I want to
do is do what he and I have talked about
it being possible to do, and that is, have a
good morning, and it's gonna mean getting there even before daylight,
considerably before daylight, but fishing without getting my feet wet,

(01:28:26):
stand on dry sand and catch fish.

Speaker 4 (01:28:28):
And it's clearly doable.

Speaker 3 (01:28:30):
You just have to be in the right spot because
some of those first guts down there are three and
a half four feet deep at high tide. And if
I can catch an incoming tide at about maybe an
hour hour and a half after it starts, and there's
some really good movement on that beach and there's some
good water coming up on that beach, those big fish
will be in that first gut, and if they are,

(01:28:52):
I'm gonna get them. I'm gonna get them. There is
something I want about, I want to I want about
I want to talk about tomorrow, and I'll plant the
seed right now. Back in January at the at the
Miami actually it was in February at the Miami Boat Show,
Yamaha introduced a hydrogen powered outboard engine. The thing is

(01:29:16):
and there were The reason it came up again is
because it was it was shown down in the at
the Sydney Boat show a little more recently, big old
beast of a thing, just as big as a garbage can,
but it's gonna run on hydrogen and it's gonna develop
somewhere between four hundred and twenty five and four hundred
and fifty horse power.

Speaker 4 (01:29:35):
They partnered with Raush.

Speaker 3 (01:29:37):
On this on the fuel system, and that fuel system
at if you're if you're splitting hydrogen atoms and turning
them into energy, the only the H two O is
that comes off there is the only byproduct, and that's water.
It's gonna burn hydrogen and it's gonna produce water if
anything that comes out, no CO two emissions at all,

(01:30:01):
because there's no C in hydrogen. It's just H two oh.
And that's going to be that. I've been talking about
that on fifty plus. I've been I've talked a little
bit about it here as it applies to vehicles too.
Hydrogen vehicles are already out there in many parts of

(01:30:22):
the world just being tested and it's not going to
be long and many other parts of the world they've
been tested for several years now, and there's a lot
of movement in that direction. And I don't mind reducing
reducing emissions that the hydrogen engines are very efficient too,

(01:30:43):
but none of that's going to change whether the Earth
gets hot or colder.

Speaker 2 (01:30:48):
We just don't.

Speaker 3 (01:30:49):
We don't contribute enough CO two to matter. We really
don't as humans. It's it's amazing how so many people
have been talked into it. Nevermind, I don't want to
get into all that right now. I don't want to
get into all that. I did see something kind of funny, though.
There was a story earlier in the week about a
woman who bought an electric car and opted out of
adding high powered charging at her home, and there apparently

(01:31:13):
there is a way you could just plug it into
your light socket somewhere, and it's a slow charge. And
she found out just how slow when she plugged her
new car in and was ready to go, and the
charge time was something like two and a half days.
Two and a half days to fully charge your car.

(01:31:34):
I don't remember where I read that, but it made
me giggle just a teeny bit. Well, yeah, yeah, if
you're tapping that plug for electricity, electricity is not free.

Speaker 4 (01:31:49):
And the funniest part I see all the time now is.

Speaker 3 (01:31:52):
Is pictures of these charging stations for electric vehicles, And
then right behind the charging station, either in plane view
because they can't really hide it, or they try to
put bushes around them so you can't see them. Are
diesel generators, Wow, yeah, they're they're burning diesel fuel to
create electricity to fuel the cars that are supposed to

(01:32:13):
save the world.

Speaker 11 (01:32:14):
Well I was at first, Colin you maul, yeah, and
oh yeah, I know. This lady was charging up her
electric vehicle and she told me that she gets an
hour for free. It's a free charge for an out. Well,
let's just establish it and nothing is free.

Speaker 3 (01:32:32):
Yeah. First of all, somebody's paying for that somewhere somehow.
That might be a tax deal. I don't know. Yeah,
i'd be curious if you ever see anybody over there again,
ask them if they know about the free hour they're
supposed to get and who's paying for it, because somebody is,
you know, somebody somewhere. All right, let's get to this
break on time. And I got a couple of emails

(01:32:53):
that looks like coming in about hydrogen. I'll be curious
to read those. I'll do that during the break and
we will return in a little bit on the way out.

Speaker 12 (01:33:01):
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Speaker 3 (01:33:07):
Back to the Doug Pipe Show, Doug Pike Show on
Sports Talk seven ninety. Thanks for listening. Certainly do appreciate it.
We have rounded third in our are headed for home,
hoping to score the winning run. I guess at some point,
unlike the Astros last night, I'll talk to Dan Matthews
right before we come in about that, right before he
comes on on my way out his way in.

Speaker 4 (01:33:29):
We'll have a brief discussion.

Speaker 3 (01:33:32):
I hope. He usually pops in about a minute before
I got to get out of this chair and make.

Speaker 4 (01:33:36):
Room for him. Letting me go talk to Brandon. Let's
see what's up, Brandon.

Speaker 3 (01:33:40):
What's up, Buddy man.

Speaker 16 (01:33:42):
Good morning, mister Pike.

Speaker 8 (01:33:44):
I'm very well, thank you, good, good good.

Speaker 16 (01:33:48):
We are vastly approaching, Yes, we are, and I wish
I wish we have hey, just gun safety, you know,
and I mean I'm a very advocate about that, because
if you've ever witnessed it, it's not good.

Speaker 3 (01:34:10):
Well I have, and you're right.

Speaker 8 (01:34:13):
And it is.

Speaker 16 (01:34:14):
It's pretty tough, but an open chamber is a safe
the safest way you can do it.

Speaker 10 (01:34:20):
You know.

Speaker 3 (01:34:20):
As much as I talk about Bill Carter and Carter
Country and the ranches and whatnot. One of the rules
that he had and I loved it was absolutely positively
no closed bolts inside the ranch house. If you wanted
to leave your rifle closed, you had to leave it outside.
If you wanted to come in with your rifle, whether

(01:34:40):
it was to tucket it under your pillow. So it's
because it's your best friend on a hunting trip, that's fine,
but open it up. Nobody wants to see a closed,
closed chamber or closed action on any of that.

Speaker 16 (01:34:52):
Yes, sir, Yes, sir. And that's that's the only thing
I say, because we're coming on, we're coming up on
it pretty quick.

Speaker 7 (01:35:01):
Well.

Speaker 3 (01:35:02):
The dove season, the dove season brings up its own concerns,
and that is especially if you're going to be part
of a big group that's going to be out in
the field and the doves haven't been shot at yet
and when when the shooting starts, man they just go
in all directions. But for the first two or three
days they typically are still going to be flying really low,
and that just places extra emphasis on making sure you

(01:35:25):
know where everybody is in that field.

Speaker 16 (01:35:28):
Yes, sir, and even you being a guide from a
long time ago. I mean it's those guys. I mean,
I mean, you never know. Everybody's excited. I mean, of
course you are young kids, and I mean this is
their first time out, and they get excited. So I mean,
it's just I'm just a very good advocate about gun safety.

Speaker 3 (01:35:53):
Well, you and I are on the same page on that.
In fact, there's something I just made a little note
here because I'm got to talk about it again tomorrow
as well. Well, if you're on a fence line, let's say,
or whatever, in a group, a group of a lot
of dove hunters in relatively close proximity to each other,
if you get up and leave where you are to

(01:36:14):
go pick up a dove or something, you just kind
of holler to whoever's to your left and whoever's to
your right, Hey, I'm coming out here into the field.
Because they know where you are when you're sitting down
on your little stool by the fence or under the
tree or whatever. But if you get up and start
walking out in the middle of the field, that may
be an area they feel like it's safe to swing

(01:36:35):
a gun real low because you didn't let them know
you were going out there, and you just asking for trouble,
you know, And it doesn't matter if you're hollering in
a dove field and it doesn't scare doves, right.

Speaker 16 (01:36:48):
I thank you for accepting my call, but I am
it's just I'm a very big advocate of that. An
open chamber is the safe. The safe that's even if
you have it on safe.

Speaker 4 (01:37:00):
Oh yeah, safety on a rifle.

Speaker 3 (01:37:02):
Safeties on rifles have and shot guns as well. Uh,
they're not completely infallible. It's just it's just a mechanical
switch basically that is designed to keep that trigger from
being pulled. But there have been cases over since guns
were invented and safeties were put on them where those
safeties have failed or where the it's really easy too,

(01:37:27):
if you're in the middle of a hectic, crazy, fast
moving dove field to forget to put the safety on,
and if you do that, then you just just asking
for trouble.

Speaker 10 (01:37:38):
Man.

Speaker 3 (01:37:39):
Thank you, Yes, sir boy, you can kind of tell
I get kind of fired up about this.

Speaker 16 (01:37:43):
Huh, Well, I get fired both two because it's it's
it's it's pretty rough. You never want to see it.

Speaker 3 (01:37:51):
I agree, one hundred percent. I agree, all right, Well,
thank you, Brandon. I appreciate it, buddy. Yes, sir, all right, audios. Yeah,
there's the there's just no reason at all. And I
still to this day, I have been trying for the
past thirty five years to go through an entire hunting
season without a hunting accident, or at least without a

(01:38:13):
hunting related fatality, even and I think that we've had
a couple of years where there was only one. I
don't think we've had one yet with zero fatalities in Texas,
but if we have, I may go look it up
when we go to break here, just to make sure
that I'm not wrong. But who knows, I could have
forgotten about it.

Speaker 4 (01:38:31):
But it just the good news. On the good news.

Speaker 3 (01:38:34):
Front, more and more of these hunting accidents have not
involved alcohol, and so this whole notion that hunters are
just a bunch of drunks out in the field doing
stupid stuff is totally wrong. And if anybody challenges you
on that, just tell them to go look up the statistics.
It's very rare now that alcohol is involved in a

(01:38:57):
hunting accident or fatality. However, it does still happen, and
a lot of people do still drink before they go
in the field, which I personally don't like at all.
And I'm man, If you guys are gonna go out
and drink a three or four beers before you go
out for your afternoon hunt, just don't bother calling me, okay,

(01:39:20):
because I don't want to be around that. I don't
want to be.

Speaker 4 (01:39:22):
Associated with it. It's just it.

Speaker 3 (01:39:25):
If you can't go without a beer for two or
three hours while you're while you're hunting or before you
go hunting, then.

Speaker 4 (01:39:33):
You got you got bigger problems. Okay.

Speaker 3 (01:39:37):
The hunt should be intoxicating enough if you will the
app being out there with your friends, being out there
watching the doves fly and hoping you can knock a
few of them down. That's that's what you get from
dove hunting. It's not an excuse to go drinking. If
you want to drink, go shoot as much as you
want to shoot, sober, and then unlock your.

Speaker 4 (01:40:00):
Gun, put it away, open the action.

Speaker 3 (01:40:04):
Like Brandon was talking about, and then crack a coal
when that's fine with me, but don't do it while
you're out there in the field with me.

Speaker 4 (01:40:12):
I had to give up some hunts with a man.

Speaker 3 (01:40:14):
I'd still like he's a great guy, but I just
can't justify being part of his annual hunts when I
know that there's drinking going on before the afternoon hunt,
and in some cases a lot of it. And I
don't care how much you think you can handle it.
I don't care how solid you think you are. If

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there is actually an incident involving you and anybody else where,
game wardens and law enforcement have to be brought in.
The first question they're gonna ask has anybody been drinking?
And at that point you're pretty much under oath, and
if you have, it's gonna just it ramps up the

(01:40:58):
investigation and it changes your your options and your possibility
of getting out of there with just a boy. You
should have been more careful, because once that's introduced into
the into the mix, there's problems.

Speaker 4 (01:41:14):
It's just not worth it.

Speaker 10 (01:41:15):
I don't know.

Speaker 3 (01:41:15):
I don't know why anybody would think that they have
to drink, that they have to drink to have fun Honting.
There's hunting and there's drinking, and the times don't overlap
at all for me, except after once the guns are
put away, then okay, if you want to have a
cold beer, because it's a hot day. I'm okay until then, though, No,

(01:41:39):
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Alan's advised me of an E or a video I
need to go look at, and I'm gonna look at
it regards hydrogen engines and this will be very interesting.
I'm sure.

Speaker 12 (01:41:56):
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Speaker 3 (01:42:04):
Back to the Doug Pike Show. All right, welcome back
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Speaker 4 (01:42:09):
Back to dove season for a second.

Speaker 3 (01:42:11):
There's one aspect of dove season that we have not
touched on yet, and that is finding the birds that
you knock down. And depending on where you're hunting, that
can be either really easy or really hard. And in
most cases the best places you'll be able to hunt,

(01:42:31):
it's going to be really hard. Doves because of their coloration,
and because they use that coloration as camouflage, as natural
camouflage to keep from getting eaten up by everything that
runs around looking to find them and catch them when
they hit the ground. They're hard to find and I

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can't emphasize enough how important it is to bring along
with you as you go out there, either a couple
of red handkerchiefs or maybe a couple of those little
marking flags you would use if you were trying to
mark the sprinkler heads in your yard for somebody who
was going to be doing some digging or whatever. Anything

(01:43:15):
that you can drop on the ground and reference as
you start moving around. And one of the best ways
I found to find down to doves. Well, the first
thing is you don't shoot another one. Don't even take
your eyes off the spot where that dove fell to
look at other birds flying around to see where you are.

(01:43:38):
First of all, you need some reference point that you
can see when you leave, where you're sitting or standing,
clearly visible, easily easy scene. If you're leaving, go ahead
and hang a white handkerchief over a fence post, or
hang a piece of orange, hang an orange vest on
the fence post, because right now you're not shooting anyway,

(01:43:59):
so don't worry about being seen by the birds. Walk
straight to the place that you think that bird fell.
Plant that little flag I used to put use three
inch or a three foot wooden dowl, and just hang
about a I don't know, maybe ten or twelve inches
of bright orange cloth or plastic or whatever on that thing.
Stick it in the ground where I think the bird fell,

(01:44:21):
and then start making little circles around that steak a
little wider and a little wider, until eventually you come
across the bird.

Speaker 4 (01:44:31):
It's important.

Speaker 3 (01:44:32):
The most important thing is to keep a straight line though,
going to the bird and where you think it fell,
and it usually will have fallen about eight or ten
yards past where you think it fell. If there's anything
on the ground out there, You've got to be careful also,
and make sure look like I said earlier, that you've
hollered that you're leaving your position where everybody thinks you

(01:44:54):
are before many birds any more, birds get shot at
out where around where you knocked yours down. But use
something to mark where you are when you leave that spot,
and then use something to mark exactly where you think
that bird fell, because you're probably going to be close,
but you're also probably not going to just walk right

(01:45:16):
to it and trip over a pile of feathers. If
you can get close, then like I said, hone that
search in and just make very small circles around that spot,
and if you've been able to to walk that straight line.

Speaker 4 (01:45:32):
By the way, I'm going to go back a couple
of steps.

Speaker 3 (01:45:34):
When you leave where you're standing and you have a
line on exactly where that bird fell, take a snapshot
of that in your brain, and then look up to
the horizon and find something out that way, a tree,
a light pole, a high line, wire pole, whatever. Find
something to use as a reference so you can make
sure you're still walking a straight line, because your eyes

(01:45:57):
are going to get pulled off of it a couple
of times.

Speaker 4 (01:46:00):
Go to where you think the bird is.

Speaker 3 (01:46:01):
Put something on the ground there that you can see
when you walk around in circles around it, and then
slowly and methodically find that bird. You're responsible legally for
finding that bird. You have to make a good and
honest effort. If you knock a bird down, walk out
ten yards and then a bunch of birds start flying around,
and you run back to your spot and start blazing again.

(01:46:25):
Game warden if there's one watching you, and there could
be on opening day, on opening week, on any time
you're out in the field, they're gonna have to ask
you some questions. And that one bird you knocked down
you went halfway to where it fell, and then you
went running back and just started shooting again.

Speaker 4 (01:46:41):
You never went back to look for that bird. Why
it's against the law.

Speaker 3 (01:46:46):
Okay, one dove, one dove can is not going to
make or break your dinner that night. If you can
afford to go dove hunting, you can afford food, okay.
And if you can afford food, you don't have to
worry about doing anything wrong to try to shoot two

(01:47:06):
or three doves. When you got one on the ground,
you got to go find that one you shot. Now,
if it's in, if it's on the other side of
a thirty yard wide rose hedge, impossible to get through
sticker bushes, everything, Make an effort, make an honest effort,

(01:47:28):
and do your best, and at least you can sleep
knowing you did the right thing. But if you just say, ah,
I had that bird's over that all those stickers, I'm
not going around there forget that one. Let's just stay
here and hunt, then you haven't done it right. It
doesn't take a lot of effort to do dove hunting right.
It doesn't take a lot of effort to do dove
hunting safely. It just it demands. Sobriety and paying attention.

(01:47:54):
Sobriety and paying attention. When you're not shooting, your gun
should be on safety. When you're shooting, you can take
it off safety as you lift it to your shoulder.
It's not that hard, even being left handed. I've trained
myself over year over the years to release the safety
with my middle finger by just rolling it around to

(01:48:15):
the back of the sugar guard, where the safety is
on most of my shotguns, and release it as I
bring the gun up on my over and underguns and
my side by side. It's just right on the top
of the top of the stock, and I can push
it forward from there. But don't release the safety until
it's time to shoot. Don't shoot in the direction of

(01:48:38):
anybody else. On and on real quick. Oh good, Dan
Matthews is here? Space City Saturday's coming up next?

Speaker 10 (01:48:44):
Is that the name?

Speaker 15 (01:48:44):
Is that?

Speaker 10 (01:48:45):
Right?

Speaker 4 (01:48:45):
That's correct?

Speaker 3 (01:48:46):
Oh? Thank god? Got all right?

Speaker 4 (01:48:47):
So I have a theory on what happened last night?

Speaker 9 (01:48:50):
Okay, oh boy, we have to stop meeting like this,
by the way, so ground ball to the picture.

Speaker 3 (01:48:55):
He feels it between his legs, which was really cool. Yeah,
going away. Why hadn't Wit come on third base. When
he comes up to throw it that way, he looked
at first base. First, he looks at third and what
comes like, going, eh, I guess I ought to get
over there. Well, then I think started.

Speaker 9 (01:49:10):
Well, I mean it's not only that, it's also too,
I mean, you know, it's one of those situations that
I understand seeing the runner dance off third base, but
it's also I mean, look him back and then get
an out somewhere.

Speaker 3 (01:49:23):
Yeah, I agree, Yeah, do something, get it out.

Speaker 4 (01:49:26):
I agree.

Speaker 3 (01:49:26):
Yeah, they just kind of froze and tried to force
that play at third rather than just spin around and
get the at at first.

Speaker 2 (01:49:32):
Yeah.

Speaker 4 (01:49:32):
I mean it's you know, I can appreciate you trying.

Speaker 9 (01:49:36):
But at the same time though, too, I mean, that's
one of those where baseball instincts have to come over
where you say to yourself, all right, three run lead
right here, even if that guy breaks for home, we're
still up by two, and try to get it out
somewhere and all right. I mean, you would have been
in a situation though, if you got an out that
you still have the time run there.

Speaker 3 (01:49:54):
All right. That's gonna wrap it up for me. I'll
be back tomorrow. Eight Dan'll take over from here and
tell you all about sports stuff you need to know about.

Speaker 4 (01:50:01):
Stay safe audios

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