Tire Reefs Skidded to a Halt (Best Of Episode)

This "best of" aired on June 29, 2025.

Episode Transcript

Speaker 1 (00:00):
All right, here we go.

Speaker 2 (00:01):
Sunday edition of the program starts right now, Frankie, nice
sliding in sideways.

Speaker 1 (00:05):
But we made it right, Yep, we made it.

Speaker 2 (00:10):
I got an early start this morning. I went to
bed a little bit later.

Speaker 1 (00:13):
Saturday nights, I go.

Speaker 2 (00:14):
To bed an hour later, basically because I don't have
to get up until an hour later to get in
here and get prepped. Last night, everything went according to plan.
Got a nice early dinner, so I wasn't gonna my
stomach wasn't.

Speaker 1 (00:27):
Gonna keep me awake and rumbling and growling.

Speaker 2 (00:30):
I got to bed, did a little crossword puzzling, and
there's jumbles, all these little newspaper games.

Speaker 1 (00:38):
They soothed me.

Speaker 2 (00:40):
And then lights out, And when the alarm went off,
I felt pretty good, felt like.

Speaker 1 (00:45):
I'd got a nice, good, nice sleep. I get up,
I get ready, I walk out the door.

Speaker 2 (00:50):
It's still dark. Sure is dark? Sure is dark to
be six forty five. Well, in fact, it wasn't six
forty five. It was five forty five the time I
got up yesterday. Yeah, Frankie's not in his head.

Speaker 1 (01:05):
Uh huh.

Speaker 3 (01:07):
Yeah.

Speaker 2 (01:07):
The one the one critical element to getting that extra
hour of sleep on a Saturday night is moving the alarm.
All I had to do was push two buttons, just
hold one down until the alarm time started flashing, and
then hit the hour button and it would have moved
from five to six, and I would have been just fine,
and I would.

Speaker 1 (01:26):
Have gotten another hour sleep. Actually, I took advantage of
the time.

Speaker 2 (01:30):
I got a lot of things done this morning in
that extra forty five fifty minutes or whatever it was
I had afternoons in spring and summer in Southeast Florida
around I felt like during summertime trips down there, when
I was a kid to my grandparents' house, you could
almost set a watch by the three point fifteen ten

(01:51):
minute little heavy shower, the one that put just enough
water in the street for me to run to the garage,
grab the skim that my grandfather had made for me,
and go out there and throw that thing and run
and jump on it and ride it until I hit
a rock and then went over the front of it
and scraped up my palms and my knees and my elbows.

(02:14):
I left a lot of skin on that street. What
was the southeast sixteenth Avenue. That's where they lived and
had water behind them had a nice little open canal
that I remembered as a kid being much larger and
wider than it actually was.

Speaker 1 (02:29):
And it turns out you can't.

Speaker 2 (02:31):
You can't throw an eighth ounce bucktail jig on a
Zebco two O two as far as I thought I was.

Speaker 1 (02:38):
Throwing it when I was little.

Speaker 2 (02:40):
But I did manage to catch everything in that canal
during the daytime. Was pretty miniature jackfish up to about
ten inches, mangrove snappers up to.

Speaker 1 (02:52):
About a pound, worlds of hardheads.

Speaker 2 (02:56):
I mean, just I don't know how anything got to
the b every time you put any kind of a
bait out for catfish, which, hey, I was a little kid,
I didn't care.

Speaker 1 (03:07):
I just wanted to catch fish caught them.

Speaker 2 (03:09):
I actually did catch or I hooked my first tarpin
of my life when I was maybe I don't know, eight, nine,
ten years old, but I lost it almost as quickly
as I hooked it. It's a longer story than I
want to bore.

Speaker 1 (03:22):
You with today.

Speaker 2 (03:23):
Sometime, if we hit a if we hit a stall somewhere,
I may go back to that one. I've told it
enough times, I think seven one three, two, one two five,
seven ninety email me Dougpike at iHeartMedia dot com. Rock
Walking at the Surfside jetty. I've lost a little bit
of my stoke over that because it is just so
unbearably crowded down there now that I mean hundreds of

(03:47):
people fishing in an area where I used to be
one of maybe thirty forty people on the rocks even
on a good day, on a weekday, good weekday, afternoon,
beautiful water conditions clearly perfect, just bait everywhere, and there'd
be thirty people out there.

Speaker 1 (04:07):
Now there'd be three hundred.

Speaker 2 (04:09):
And it makes it a little harder to catch fish
when you can't you can't put your elbows out without
bumping into somebody else's rod. I'm disappointed a little bit
in that they made that whole jetty flat all the way.
They put a nice walking top on it, which made
it accessible to so many more people, which seems like

(04:31):
such a good idea. If all of those people are
aware of the limits, if all of those people play
by the rules, if all of those people are cognizant
of how much litter they potentially could leave out there,
and willing to take their trash back off the jetty.

Speaker 1 (04:49):
That's been a problem as well. I've seen people.

Speaker 2 (04:52):
Down there in the water near the beach actually just
raking the little tiny clams, all the granite boulders and
putting them in a bucket to take home.

Speaker 1 (05:03):
That's how.

Speaker 2 (05:05):
Badly that asset, that resource of ours is being just pillaged.
Cast nets being thrown everywhere, and anything that's in the
net goes in the bucket. And we just don't have
the law enforcement presence we need to keep people from

(05:26):
breaking the law down there. It's frustrating to watch.

Speaker 1 (05:29):
It really is.

Speaker 2 (05:30):
Forrest weight in faux pro Wilkinson weigh in with a
spinning reel that probably does deserve consideration on the Mount
rushmore of hunting and fishing equipment.

Speaker 1 (05:43):
It's not an automatic spot for me for the Mitchell
three hundred, but that one.

Speaker 2 (05:50):
Was a standard, a good, that was a working man's
good reel.

Speaker 1 (05:54):
That was the Corrado.

Speaker 2 (05:56):
Of spinning reels in its day, I think, and its
day is goes way back. And then on the hunting
side of that forest also threw in the Remington seven
hundred series rifles. I don't know how many millions of
those have been sold in this country since they were developed,
but they're still selling them, and they are still fantastic rifles.

(06:18):
I own two of them at this point and absolutely
love them. I got a two seventy and a seven
mag and they've both served me very well for many years.
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Speaker 1 (07:01):
Where'd that song come from? I haven't heard that one
in a long time.

Speaker 4 (07:04):
It's a favorite of my dad's.

Speaker 1 (07:06):
Is it really this was for you, dad?

Speaker 2 (07:09):
I bet your dad's smart enough that he's told you
never to take a what is it a seventy two
month or eighty.

Speaker 1 (07:15):
Month car Loan Oh my god, you'll never pay it off.
Don't do that. Don't do that.

Speaker 2 (07:23):
I don't know if it's the average car Loan, but
a lot of car Loans now are running seven eight
years and it's just.

Speaker 1 (07:32):
It's a waste.

Speaker 2 (07:33):
Of time and waste of money. You're never gonna get
out from under that thing. So anyway, here we are
back at the the Mount Rushmore of where we're gonna
do lures today, saltwater lures and freshwater lures.

Speaker 1 (07:48):
I'm Scott started it off a little bit, and we're
gonna need more mountains.

Speaker 2 (07:52):
This might be something kind of fun we can do
with golf too at some point. But the Mount Rushmore
of saltwater Loo, according to Captain Scott, would be a
quarter ounce gold sprite. I really don't have a problem
with that. The spoon needs to be represented on that
Mount Rushmore, it really does, and it almost, with a

(08:15):
little imagination, you could almost add it to the freshwater
site as well, because there are a lot of a
lot of very successful older fishermen before electronics, before any
of that, who caught an awful lot of largemouth bass,
an awful lot of other freshwater.

Speaker 1 (08:33):
Fish on spoons.

Speaker 2 (08:35):
And I bet you if you put a small enough
spoon into a bunch of tree limbs underwater, you could
yank a croppy or two out of there, folk pro
and I may have to try that sometime, about a
spoon about an inch long maybe, and just jiggle it
down there.

Speaker 1 (08:49):
I bet it would work.

Speaker 2 (08:51):
He also put in he's got the sprite, He's got
the rebel jumping minnow to represent top waters. That one
was a predecessor to a whole lot of plugs, kind
of a lead into the skiter walks and the top
dogs of the world and all of that. Speaking of
top dogs, the fifty one m Mirrorllure makes Scott's list.

Speaker 1 (09:13):
I have no problem with that at all.

Speaker 2 (09:16):
I had so many fifty ones at some at one
point when I was fishing the surf a lot. It
was absolutely fantastic. A great plug to throw there, a
great plug to throw in the bay, depending on conditions.
Jimmy West, I don't know how many giant trout he
caught in East Bay.

Speaker 1 (09:33):
I think on fifty ones, or I mean on yeah,
on fifty ones. Pretty sure they were.

Speaker 2 (09:37):
And then his soft plastic representation, the Kelly Wiggler Long
John Shrimptiale.

Speaker 1 (09:43):
That was one of.

Speaker 2 (09:44):
The earliest saltwater specific soft plastics to hit the market.
And I don't know how many billion of those they sold,
but it they may have put a dent in.

Speaker 1 (09:57):
The trout population. It's possible. Let me go talk to Brandon.
What's up, Brandon?

Speaker 3 (10:03):
Uh?

Speaker 1 (10:04):
Oh, not working to get hold on. I got to
put him back on.

Speaker 2 (10:06):
You got him, You take it, take the wheel. Uh yeah,
see that's what I said.

Speaker 1 (10:11):
I gotta do that brand and here.

Speaker 4 (10:15):
We go, good old technology. I understand that we do
to go.

Speaker 2 (10:22):
We put in a trouble ticket for that yesterday, and
of course the people who need to fix it don't
work on the weekend.

Speaker 4 (10:28):
So what's I understand?

Speaker 3 (10:31):
I understand.

Speaker 4 (10:32):
No, I was gonna Uh I finished all show. I
didn't get to finish the whole thing. But I was
listening to Rick Weiss. And that's how I started my
kids out. Uh that's how I started out. Was a
red ryder bb gun.

Speaker 3 (10:47):
I put up a.

Speaker 4 (10:48):
Target and then I graduated him to a uh you know,
teach the safety. You know it read white whatever, and
uh then I went to a twenty too, and my
my son I noticed that he had a dead eye
for you know. So I put him in the back
of a truck and we would go up and down

(11:09):
the canal and shoot snakes. Oh man, it was oh.
And all of a sudden, I told him about you know,
white tail deer. I said, you know, the big bucks
are gonna sit back and they're gonna I said, you
need to look for the white of the neck or
the white of the ears. And he goes Dad, and
I mean, he would always punch.

Speaker 3 (11:29):
Me in the ribs.

Speaker 4 (11:30):
He goes, Dad, there's one right there where.

Speaker 5 (11:34):
And uh and yeah, I mean I told him, I said,
that's what you gotta Yeah, it's amazing, and that's the
way you got to raise these younger kids.

Speaker 4 (11:44):
Get off the machine and just anyway, Yeah, that's good.

Speaker 2 (11:48):
You gotta get him outside. There there's so much evidence now.
It used to be just kind of like, yeah, get
your kids outside, help him out, let him have some fun.
But there's so much evidence now that children young children.

Speaker 1 (12:00):
Even develop better.

Speaker 2 (12:03):
They become more aware that they're not the center of
the universe. They actually score better on standardized tests than
kids who don't get outside.

Speaker 4 (12:14):
Well, not only that, I mean, it's just it's like
your's son playing baseball. I mean they notice, they noticed
the curveball, they noticed the knuckleball, they notice the fastball.
I mean, it's just they notice things. And I mean
that's just the way they need to be raped. And
that's what I say. You know, Siri is not always
going to be there.

Speaker 1 (12:34):
It's gonna crack o.

Speaker 3 (12:35):
Yeah.

Speaker 2 (12:36):
Man, there's going to come a time when somebody, well
if if all the electricity goes yeah, we're we're in
so much trouble, wearing so much.

Speaker 4 (12:45):
Well, I'll have to admit I'm very Uh. When Harvey hit,
I never understood why they everybody said, you know, get
some cash. Well, the whole system was crashed, your phone crash. Uh,
you know, I didn't have anything. And my fiance said, see,

(13:06):
that's the reason they tell you get some cash, because
the whole system goes down.

Speaker 2 (13:10):
Yeah, if there's no way to pay by credit card,
they're not going to sell you anything. And you can't
just promise them you'll be back tomorrow with some money
because you can't get the money out of the bank
for havens sakes.

Speaker 4 (13:23):
Well, that's what happened to me. I mean, it's I mean,
they took me at my well, I live in a
small town. So they took me as at my word. Yeah,
I mean if you're a you're a big time customer.
I mean that's I mean, you can you can the
heck with it.

Speaker 1 (13:38):
You know they don't.

Speaker 2 (13:41):
It is really the dependency we have on electronics across
the board for everything, not just for not just for
fishing and hunting, but for everything. If you stop and
think about it, that e MP, the electromagnetic pulse that
everybody talks about being a weapon of the future. It's
kind of spooky, man, And it's gonna be people who

(14:01):
know how to, who know how to kind of fend
for themselves.

Speaker 1 (14:04):
Who are going to survive that.

Speaker 3 (14:06):
Right here we are.

Speaker 2 (14:07):
We need to put on our tenfoil hats. Now let's
go all right man, it's great to talk to you, Brandon.

Speaker 1 (14:14):
Thanks buddy.

Speaker 4 (14:14):
Yeah, it's always good talking to you. I enjoy your
intellectual show. When does that we got a great We
got a great We got a great crop growing over
here in Wharton County and so hopefully farmers get up.

Speaker 1 (14:27):
Sir, Are you growing something legal?

Speaker 4 (14:30):
Yes, no, I'm talking about it in general, corn Milo.

Speaker 1 (14:33):
Oh yeah, no, I'm just kidding you.

Speaker 4 (14:35):
Now, the illegal I don't know. I don't don't know
what about that.

Speaker 2 (14:41):
That's all right, but yeah, thank you. I'm glad to
hear that. So you've gotten enough water that everything's growing.

Speaker 4 (14:46):
Oh my gosh, it's unbelievable. I just hope these farmers
get it. You know.

Speaker 2 (14:51):
There's a cotton crop that's between my house and the
golf course and it's probably about sixty acres of it.
I'm looking at every time I drive by. And they
planted I want to say, maybe a month maybe six
weeks ago, and that stuff's coming up so dark green
and so beautiful.

Speaker 1 (15:08):
Man, it looks good.

Speaker 4 (15:10):
Really, yes, sir, yeah, I'm sure I know the farmer
they planted.

Speaker 1 (15:14):
You probably do, all right, man, Thanks, yes, sir, yeah,
thank you. Huh audios. All right, there's that. There's that. Man. Yeah,
I'm so glad to hear that about that, the farming.

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The Dugpike Show. Thank you for listening this morning. Surely
glad you made it. I made it an hour early

(16:36):
because I forgot to reset my alarm yesterday. But I'm
bright eyed in bushytailed. I've got a cup of coffee
in me and I'm gonna get another one during the
next break.

Speaker 1 (16:44):
Let's get to the phone, shall we tea up Bob
for me?

Speaker 3 (16:47):
There?

Speaker 1 (16:48):
Frank you William, it's up Bob.

Speaker 6 (16:51):
Hey, good morning morning man. I sure enjoy your show.
I'm coffeeing up, just getting up by sound a little.

Speaker 3 (16:58):
Roggy, Sorry, I uh, man, I.

Speaker 6 (17:01):
Heard you talking about those. You're talking about those old
green coroados, weren't you, man. I still got three or
four of those that I still use and love. They're
so easy to clean. And why I think they I
think they're kind of like the two eighty three chevrolets.
They took them off the market because they were too good.

Speaker 1 (17:18):
It had just lasted too long.

Speaker 3 (17:20):
Oh, they were just the of the best reels. I
loved them.

Speaker 6 (17:23):
But anyway, I was listening to talking about favorite lures
and I had to I had to share. There's just
a few few lures I would I just wouldn't get
out get out of the boat without and uh and
and one of them they don't make anymore. But one
is that that super.

Speaker 1 (17:38):
Stoopidr oh buddy.

Speaker 6 (17:42):
Yeah, Well there's a particular one and they call it
the clown m m Are you me?

Speaker 3 (17:47):
Are you familiar with that one.

Speaker 1 (17:48):
I'm pretty familiar.

Speaker 6 (17:50):
Oh yeah, it's gold, you know, gold for oh my god,
I'm fish on that. I think that little bit of
sun catches the glare on that gold something. But I
always have two with me because one of the lawyers
get mauled up by red fish, you know.

Speaker 3 (18:05):
Oh yeahs.

Speaker 6 (18:06):
And then and then the other thing I'd like to
do is at Mansfield Mallory and I put Yeah, I
put a little sharks, little bassassin head with a black
curly tailed gold in the morning.

Speaker 1 (18:22):
We didn't think about that yesterday. That Marlar rig.

Speaker 2 (18:25):
It's it's not a lure, but it's a darned effective
way to catch a bunch of.

Speaker 1 (18:31):
Trout for sure.

Speaker 6 (18:32):
And red fish man, Yeah, well, I used to use
it a lot down between Port O'Connor and Rockport. You
know those brass beds, you know, sure help get get
around that grass. And and the last one that it's
a that don't make me work. There's a company called Tsunami.

Speaker 3 (18:48):
They're still in business. Friend of mine gave me one
of these years ago, and it's.

Speaker 6 (18:51):
A stupid looking lure, but it's a it's shaped like
a sandhill and and the color was called Morning Glory.

Speaker 3 (18:59):
It was black and it had the red silver sparks
in it with a sharp roofs tail.

Speaker 6 (19:05):
And the thing that was unique about it is the
head came the hook came in it, and it.

Speaker 3 (19:10):
Was really sharp. They put a tube around the hook.
It was so sharp. But the thing that was different
is they.

Speaker 6 (19:16):
Put the eye up on top of the head, not
in front and it and there was something about the
weight and the action of that particular door, and you
just tied it right on right. Came in a pack
of Since I was on Hodge's reef, I tell you
this and once you go. But I was on Hodges
Reef years ago and I was waiting. I knew the

(19:37):
fish were there.

Speaker 3 (19:37):
You know how you know they're there?

Speaker 1 (19:39):
You know they're there?

Speaker 6 (19:42):
Oh dude, Well you know you go through everything in
your everything in your arsenal right, I got, you know
all I eight and nine row eight and nine academy
with me, you know. And then so my friend of
mine gave me that lure and told me try, and said, well,
might as well put this thing on. And as soon
as as hit the water, I called about six seven

(20:04):
n ice trout with it.

Speaker 3 (20:06):
Very first time I used it.

Speaker 2 (20:07):
Have you ever have you ever heard bob of a
boone needlefish lure?

Speaker 3 (20:14):
No?

Speaker 1 (20:15):
That one.

Speaker 2 (20:16):
I don't remember where I found. This is probably thirty
years ago, maybe forty years ago. I tripped over these things.
Maybe they sent me a couple when I was at
the paper.

Speaker 1 (20:25):
But it's just it.

Speaker 2 (20:26):
It's just a It looks like a pencil with two
trouble hook I think it was two treble hooks.

Speaker 1 (20:31):
On it, and it's painted to look like a needlefish.
And it was it was about a full pencil long.

Speaker 2 (20:38):
And I had one of those out with me on
the one of the little rock groins in Galves. And
there was a guy out there at the end as
I was walking out, and you know, you can look
at somebody know if they know what they're doing or not,
and so and he did. He knew exactly what he
was doing. I said, how are you doing? Said, man,
I can't get him to eat. I feel like there's
fish here, but they're just not really eating anything. I've

(20:58):
tried everything. He tried mirror lures, he tried spoons and
jigs and whatnot. And I thought, well, you know what,
what better way to find out if a lure is
gonna work than when nothing else is working.

Speaker 1 (21:09):
And I tied one of those on, man, and I
just I slung.

Speaker 2 (21:11):
It out there and just let it sit and then
maybe twish it and then count to one hundred and
twish it again. And god, they just started smoking that thing.
They hated needlefish.

Speaker 1 (21:22):
Apparently it was you just never know, yeah, that one.

Speaker 2 (21:28):
That one does not get anywhere near amount rushmore of
saltwater fishing. But under whatever conditions those were that day
and on a few other little days out there in
the surf man, it was. It was something else that's
great to hear from you.

Speaker 3 (21:41):
Man, Hey man, good, I really enjoyed your show. Thank you,
keep up the good work.

Speaker 1 (21:47):
Oh yeah, my pleasure. Thank you.

Speaker 2 (21:49):
All right, let me shift gears and go to Dave here.
Let's see him up. Got time for it before the break,
Get tar, Dave.

Speaker 1 (21:56):
What's going on?

Speaker 7 (21:56):
Hey?

Speaker 3 (21:57):
Many?

Speaker 8 (21:58):
Yesterday I went down there to my little fishing hole
right there at eight thirty where his boat launches were
all in Texas High School. Yeah, fishman or fishing in
that place it was packing in And then when I
was dragging my lines up, I seen this one young
man come over there and pull his boat up and
he kind of started rooting around in his livewhere and everything.

(22:20):
And then I'm thinking, oh, and then so another young
man come from the other way. He's like, hey, make
sure you put en up water in there so we
can get it in the live wheel over here. He
lifted a bass up out of that livewheel like five
and a half pounds.

Speaker 7 (22:38):
Sweet.

Speaker 6 (22:39):
I know.

Speaker 1 (22:40):
I thought it food for him.

Speaker 8 (22:42):
When they were walking by, I told.

Speaker 7 (22:44):
Him I was fishing here before the bulldozer.

Speaker 8 (22:47):
We were builting this way up, and I said, the
biggest one, I recalled.

Speaker 7 (22:51):
His four the corner.

Speaker 2 (22:52):
Oh, man, please tell me he wasn't taking it to
the cleaning table. No, no, they were taking it to
the Okay, okay, that's why I keep it in the
live you know.

Speaker 1 (23:05):
Oh yeah there.

Speaker 8 (23:07):
Okay, So they got enough water to go into the
live well or wherever they were gonna have to take
it away it in, Yeah, I got. But yeah, eventually,
if you can pull up later on when all that's
over with, maybe you can get to who you scored
on what on that thing. That would be a good
figure out. Yeah, okay, and now on on the my
bucket list, I'm gonna go on from Mount Rushmore, go

(23:30):
up there, go to Bellville over and get cowboy to
build me.

Speaker 7 (23:34):
A buck knife. You know, no, that's not a bad idea.

Speaker 2 (23:39):
It's kind of hard to be an outdoorsman without a knife,
it really is. I'm I'm contemplating finding a place on
and it would have to have its almost have its
own mountain or a little piece of a mountain, because
knives are equally important in fishing. And honey, oh, you
know you can't finish the job without one.

Speaker 7 (23:59):
Correct and yeah, and and yeah.

Speaker 8 (24:01):
But I mean like my son when you know, when
he became an eagle scout, I had a bluck knife
with the sheath on it that I had for a
long time, and I went in and gave that one
to him. And I talked to him the other day.
He said, they've been him and his wife. They've been
coming over there and fishing a cable bolt launch and
camping over there.

Speaker 7 (24:20):
I said, well, call me man.

Speaker 8 (24:21):
I mean, I'm gonna be moving over there pretty soon,
so around that way, so you know, and we'll go
from there. Hey, you one of the things, yeah, real quick,
told this up, uh, and you can talk about a
little later. Do you think we need.

Speaker 7 (24:34):
To add a up the limits on more than one shark, and.

Speaker 8 (24:41):
Uh, you know, because I've eaten short before.

Speaker 7 (24:45):
And uh it's good.

Speaker 3 (24:47):
I mean.

Speaker 7 (24:50):
Yeah, that's the one that Barry Pale caught like a
five footer and we diused that dude up real quick
and then barbecue and it was good.

Speaker 9 (24:58):
Yeah.

Speaker 2 (24:58):
I'm not ready to I'm not ready loose enough on
sharks yet. They're so overfished already and.

Speaker 1 (25:05):
There's still a black market for shark.

Speaker 2 (25:07):
Fins, and other countries are finning these sharks and just
throwing them back in where they can't even survive.

Speaker 1 (25:13):
There's no possibility that they can serve.

Speaker 7 (25:15):
Call I forget it all about it?

Speaker 1 (25:17):
Yeah, yeah, oh lord, all right, something all right, man, Hey,
I got a bounce. Thank you, Dave.

Speaker 2 (25:25):
I'll see, man. I hate to cut people short like that.
And I bet Bob's going to call back after the break.

Speaker 1 (25:31):
I hope he does.

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Speaker 1 (26:32):
I'll tell you what.

Speaker 2 (26:32):
We're not gonna waste much time chitty chatting right now.
I need to get to two phone calls for sure,
and then might have to wait on the third one
who's holding on along as that would be Yeah, there
we go.

Speaker 3 (26:43):
That you Bob, that's me, Doug.

Speaker 1 (26:45):
How you doing, I'm good?

Speaker 10 (26:47):
Come on, Well, I really won't take much time. I
want no fishing story or anything, but I just wanted to.

Speaker 7 (26:55):
Thank you for your show.

Speaker 10 (26:56):
I have a lot of.

Speaker 8 (26:57):
Health problems not able to get out of anymore.

Speaker 10 (26:59):
So, dang, I live vicariously through your show, and I
just wanted to know what you know, how much I appreciate.

Speaker 2 (27:05):
Well, I have to ramp up. What do you want
us to vicariously do this week?

Speaker 7 (27:10):
Well?

Speaker 1 (27:14):
Do we have?

Speaker 2 (27:14):
We don't have to go far, do we We can
just just whatever, you know.

Speaker 1 (27:18):
Sometimes I feel like I've got that going.

Speaker 2 (27:20):
On with some of my friends who who are doing
a lot more outdoor stuff than me lately too, And
I understand, I really do.

Speaker 1 (27:27):
But just hanging there.

Speaker 7 (27:29):
Man, everybody.

Speaker 10 (27:30):
Oh yeah, I enjoy everybody you know?

Speaker 11 (27:32):
Good.

Speaker 10 (27:32):
Tell you about the old fishing lois.

Speaker 11 (27:34):
I remember the old.

Speaker 10 (27:35):
Uh needle one long time? Yeah we tie it on?

Speaker 1 (27:45):
Sound like me now, Yeah?

Speaker 10 (27:47):
I always I was one of these guys.

Speaker 7 (27:51):
I very seldom changed some water.

Speaker 10 (27:53):
I'd go with my morning glory when it come out
and a silver spoon and I you know those to
go to and never liked Mary or Lawyer because I
didn't like trouble too many trouble hook.

Speaker 2 (28:06):
Sure, yeah, I agree with you on that. Well, look
I can do for you.

Speaker 1 (28:10):
Let me know. Yeah, if you need to email me
and get a special request in, you do that, will you?

Speaker 3 (28:16):
I will. I appreciate it and I love your show.

Speaker 1 (28:18):
Oh, thank you so much.

Speaker 3 (28:19):
I appreciate you.

Speaker 1 (28:21):
Bet Audio.

Speaker 2 (28:22):
All right, let's grab Rick, see what's on his mind
this morning? Rick, what's going on buddy?

Speaker 9 (28:28):
Well, the first thing we need to do is we
need to lift old Mob up as a fellow outdoors.
But in our prayers and pray that he is uh
that he's doing well and uh but he's he's in
good hands. So we want to we won't take care
of our fellow outdoors. That yeah, thank you, Rick, good
luck Mob. Hey, I want to play this knock knockout

(28:50):
game again. I call it knockout game, you call it
mount us. All right, yesterday on the fresh Water I
called in or I say you a text that the
go to was the spinner Bait. Okay, right remember yeah,
oh yeah, all right, my question is as anybody gave

(29:12):
a second fresh water, because I'm gonna try to knock
somebody out.

Speaker 2 (29:15):
Here with Captain Scott through four of matt me this morning.
He has the jitterbug, the hula popper.

Speaker 9 (29:22):
That's cheating. That's cheating.

Speaker 2 (29:24):
Four yeah, well four there are four faces on Mount Rushmore.

Speaker 1 (29:30):
Uh and and we can talk about taking stuff off.

Speaker 2 (29:32):
So what he has on there is the jitterbug, the
hula popper, the cream worm, and the asient H black
yellow spinner bait, which and I sent him an email
back that said all of those lures are now in
museums or in my garage. But and honestly, the ancient

(29:53):
h it stands the test of time. Okay, it's still
for sale, h and H Bacher for sale. The hula popper.
I think I might pull that one and replace it
with a Lucky thirteen.

Speaker 1 (30:05):
Possibly maybe, I don't know.

Speaker 12 (30:07):
So what are you thinking, Well, he stole three of mine.
That's that's almost you beat me, You beat me. The
hula popper, the top water, jitterbug, and the h and
Ax black and yellow. That's that was that's that's go
to right there even still today.

Speaker 8 (30:28):
Yea.

Speaker 9 (30:29):
So now I'm gonna knock somebody knock one of them all.
I'm gonna knock off that, uh, that white worm or
whatever he said. I never even heard of.

Speaker 4 (30:39):
Knock that off.

Speaker 1 (30:40):
They were the first plastic worms to saw plastics.

Speaker 9 (30:44):
Okay, I'm gonna knock that off a little more of
a modern lure, okay. And I'm gonna I'm gonna do
a slash thing. I'm gonna do a plastic worm slash
plastic crawls lizards.

Speaker 2 (30:58):
Oh oh yo, god, yeah, I can't imagine you not
wanting to throw that crawl lizard in there.

Speaker 9 (31:05):
All right, drank it up. Hey, thanks Scott, you beat me, brother,
You owe me one, all right.

Speaker 2 (31:14):
Rick, thanks man. All right, let's tee up, faux pro.
We got a couple of minutes here, foak pro. Where
are you standing on all lists?

Speaker 3 (31:24):
Well?

Speaker 13 (31:25):
Uh, as a fresh water fishing, as a bass fisher,
it's easier for me to if you know, if you
if you pick, if I got to pick one bait,
you tell me I got one bait to throw and
take another nine hundred out of my boat I'm taking.
I'm taking a half house black and blue jig with
a rage crawl trailer, and I can fish it a
foot deep, I can fish it on top, I can
fish it in forty feet of water. I pretty much

(31:47):
do whatever I want to do with that bait, and
it's weedless. If you crowd them into one bait, that
the jig would have to be on top of my list.

Speaker 2 (31:56):
That is such old school bass fishing it is. And
I respect, man, I really do. I just lacked the
patience to fish with jigs because it seems like it
just I have to just I'm crawling this thing across
the bottom, man, and I like to cover water.

Speaker 1 (32:12):
You know me.

Speaker 13 (32:13):
I think you get you a quarter out to green
pumpkin swim gee with the with the green pumpkin rage
crawling the backup.

Speaker 3 (32:20):
You can fish it, you can burn it just like
a spinner bait.

Speaker 1 (32:22):
You'd be surprised catching him ponds on that. As soon
as you said crawl crawl, Rick Bisse perked up. I
guarantee you he loves those little crawl worms.

Speaker 3 (32:32):
Man.

Speaker 13 (32:33):
But as far as salt water, real quick, now, what
I what I grew up, all it what I learned
to fish, and I'm not a big time salt water guy.
I did all my stuff under a cork cork, actually
cork popping cork with the shrimp when I was a kid.

Speaker 7 (32:43):
But but back then, my daddy.

Speaker 3 (32:46):
Had me throwing a peak o perch.

Speaker 13 (32:47):
Yeah yeah, And today I'm still throwing the I don't know.
I mean, I have to bet you got a thousand
of them today. I'm still throwing the d o a
shrimp under a popping cord.

Speaker 3 (32:56):
You know.

Speaker 1 (32:57):
That's that's a Florida thing more than here.

Speaker 2 (33:00):
There are so many people here who who just don't
throwd a shrimp because they don't understand how Mark Nichols
built them to be fished without having to really do
much at all, but just let it kind of ride
the tide.

Speaker 1 (33:15):
That that's a bait. That's all you do. You just
throw it out there.

Speaker 2 (33:18):
I man, I killed them at Packery Channel when the
water was moving through there pretty good years ago, several
years ago. I went down there and everybody's throwing this
and that and doing whatever.

Speaker 1 (33:28):
They just not doing much of nothing.

Speaker 2 (33:30):
And I ted on that do a shrimp and I
threw it out there as far as I could throw
it and just just held on and I'd strip a
little line out so it would float with the tide
and not against it and not get turned around and whatnot.
And man, they just absolutely smoked that thing doing nothing.

Speaker 3 (33:47):
To the rod.

Speaker 13 (33:48):
Oh yeah, we duck hut in the mortar out there
matter go to bay or around Rockport and we get
out there just killing around the bay, around the cork
and my three foot deep and just dripping under popping corks,
popp it once every ten minutes or something.

Speaker 1 (34:00):
Yep.

Speaker 2 (34:00):
Well, hey look I got I got a bounce, but
I got one freshwaterlore. I'm gonna throw at you that.
Somebody who was it sent me that this morning. I
want to say it was Kevin. Maybe I don't see
it right now.

Speaker 1 (34:10):
It was, Yeah, it was Kevin. Rattle trap dude, what about.

Speaker 3 (34:14):
That trap catch?

Speaker 13 (34:15):
They catch anything that swims and any kind of fish
that swims there.

Speaker 1 (34:21):
Yeah, the real giant ones.

Speaker 2 (34:23):
I was throwing off the end of the surfside jetty
in the fall and let it go all the way
to the bottom and then just kind of just lift
it and drop it almost like a jig, kind of
like a crab swimming across the bottom and caught so.

Speaker 1 (34:34):
Many bull reds. Oh my god, so fine.

Speaker 2 (34:37):
Manat hear audios man, Now here's Doug Pike Sports Talk
seven ninety this Sunday morning.

Speaker 1 (34:46):
Thank you all for listening. I truly do appreciate it.

Speaker 2 (34:49):
It just it warms my heart quite literally to know
that I've got a good group of dedicated to people
who like this.

Speaker 1 (34:57):
Show and and what I'm doing over here.

Speaker 2 (34:59):
Because I try to touch as many bases as I can,
I try to make it as interesting as I can.
I don't I don't just go over the same stuff
over and over and over.

Speaker 1 (35:08):
I like to mix it up.

Speaker 2 (35:09):
And I love this this idea that I believe it
was Rick who came up with it yesterday, the mount
rushmore of lures and hunting and fishing stuff and whatnot.
Let's let's get to Robbie te him up for me, Wade, Frankie, Hey, Robbie,
what's up man?

Speaker 1 (35:22):
Good morning, Doug. How you doing. I'm good, Thank you.

Speaker 14 (35:26):
Good.

Speaker 1 (35:26):
Hey.

Speaker 15 (35:27):
You keep my long term deep memory bank. Talking about
those needlefish lures earlier years ago, I was I don't
even know where we were, and it was probably thirty
years ago or more. We were down fishing under the
lights in some canal and catching them hardly any trout,
and we were we had them at the cleaning table,
and I cut one open and.

Speaker 1 (35:48):
Said, what are these things eating? And I said, these
guys are eating needlefish.

Speaker 15 (35:54):
Of course, like there's no such thing as a needlefish lure.

Speaker 3 (35:57):
So we went to.

Speaker 15 (35:58):
The store boughts bit ten, yes, sir, and took the
insert out ran about it, I don't know, twenty thirty
pounds leader monophilament through the middle, tight little uh uh
trubbook on the back, and put a tight little barrel
swivel on the front, threw them out there and just

(36:18):
kind of worked them slow and we hammeer with a
just a complete shot made lure.

Speaker 2 (36:26):
There was there was a time when I was I
had to say a very similar experience with those.

Speaker 1 (36:32):
I never did full pins.

Speaker 2 (36:34):
I was cutting them in half when for for when,
like especially at night under the lights under the piers
along the coast, those fish were eating glass minutes, and
cut them in half. And you know the high grade
that's yours is yours is a working man's needlefish or
glass Minnow I went to hobby lobby and bought metallic

(36:57):
pipe cleaners and shoved them up.

Speaker 1 (37:00):
Been there to where you got like a green back and.

Speaker 2 (37:02):
A silver belly on your little big pen lure and
you talk about something that looks real.

Speaker 1 (37:08):
Oh man, be worthless things out. Necessity is the mother
of been Jamison, right, isn't it?

Speaker 3 (37:14):
Though?

Speaker 2 (37:15):
I don't I don't know why somebody hasn't come up
with that a little more commercially, you know, just kind
of dressed it up. But yeah, those clear big pens,
there're more than one twelve pack or whatever. Those four
of those that God, just the pen parts just got
thrown away. Who cared. I didn't have to. I didn't
need to write a letter. I needed to catch a trout, you.

Speaker 3 (37:34):
Know, right exactly.

Speaker 7 (37:35):
That's great to hear.

Speaker 2 (37:36):
From you, man, God, thank you, Robbi. It's good to
hear from you, buddy.

Speaker 1 (37:40):
Absolutely, you bet Audios.

Speaker 2 (37:42):
That's a good dude right there, and no fooling. I
went down to Argentina on a magazine assignment who with
some women big game hunters, And there was a water
buffalo taken, There was a mountain lion taken.

Speaker 1 (37:56):
There were a couple of other animals taken. They got
big giant red.

Speaker 2 (38:00):
Stags down there, and out of just out of nowhere,
Robbie goes, hey, man, let's go dove hunting.

Speaker 1 (38:06):
This afternoon. I don't know.

Speaker 3 (38:08):
I didn't.

Speaker 1 (38:08):
I don't have any stuff to dove hunt.

Speaker 3 (38:10):
Really.

Speaker 1 (38:11):
Buddy said, oh, we got everything you need right here
at the lot. It's not a problem. So I got
outfitted and.

Speaker 2 (38:16):
We went out there, and I thought, well, I'll just
shoot a couple of boxes of shells. And I've heard
it's pretty crazy down here, but we're only going to
be out there a couple of hours.

Speaker 1 (38:24):
What's that going to be?

Speaker 2 (38:25):
And before I know it, I'm like through a half
a case of shells.

Speaker 1 (38:29):
I got dead birds all around me.

Speaker 2 (38:31):
I got reloaders reloading my gun for me. I got
in just by the time you can get that gun
reloaded and pick it up, there another one hundred doves
in front of you, all directions.

Speaker 1 (38:45):
I tell you what I did.

Speaker 2 (38:46):
Mostly, I know my strengths and my weaknesses as a shooter,
and when we're dove hunting.

Speaker 1 (38:52):
When we were dove hunting down.

Speaker 2 (38:53):
There, what I did was let the shots that I
know I can make, Let the easy ones for me
go and focus on shooting the harder shots, the ones
I had trouble with at home, on ducks and geese,
on doves, on everything, pigs, whatever. We were shooting up here,
I made sure that I got better. I used it

(39:13):
kind of as a learning experience. Actually, it made me
a better shot, because you're not going to go anywhere
really on the planet and get that much opportunity to
practice a particular shot. Mine was slightly going away from
right to left and slightly going.

Speaker 1 (39:31):
Up and away from right to left.

Speaker 2 (39:32):
That's one of the hardest shots I've got as a
left handed shooter, and I got pretty good at it
before the end of those two or three hours. Great
place to go, a lot of fun. Robby's a good
guy to get you there too. He knows how to
do it, he knows how to do it in style.

Speaker 1 (39:46):
He really does. Forever grateful to him for taking me
down there.

Speaker 2 (39:51):
One quick return to the Mount rushmore of lures something
that I hadn't thought of, Scott didn't think of, but
probably as worthy of consideration when we're talking about lifetime
achievement awards. It predates most of this audience, I believe,

(40:11):
But the good old fashioned.

Speaker 1 (40:13):
Bingo saltwater lures.

Speaker 2 (40:16):
Those bingos caught an awful lot of awful lot of fish.
One of the original hard plastic baits that was the
early versions of that family of baits. There were several
people who made them, but Doug English and his crew
Top of the Hill, Top of the Hill. The earliest

(40:38):
ones were actually carved from toothbrushes. And I learned that
from a lure historian, Ben Koshin, who was editor or
the art director actually of Tied magazine was when I
was the magazine's editor, and he had one of the
most incredible extensive lure collections in the country, tens of
thousands of lures, and he taught me an awful.

Speaker 1 (41:01):
Lot about that. But yeah, the bingo might might deserve
a spot. Let's get Alan up here, see what's going on. Alan?
What's up, buddy?

Speaker 14 (41:10):
Hey Doug?

Speaker 3 (41:11):
Yea, sir.

Speaker 14 (41:12):
I thought I was about to wait thirty minutes, I
was told, But that's okay.

Speaker 1 (41:16):
I looked up.

Speaker 2 (41:17):
I looked up at the at the board here and
nobody was there.

Speaker 1 (41:20):
But you man, let's go what's going on?

Speaker 14 (41:23):
Hey? So is it does it do me in a
benefit to load my own shells? Or or or doesn't?
Really it's is it okay, it's a hobby? Or just
go buy something to be done with it.

Speaker 1 (41:36):
What are you loading rifle or shotgun?

Speaker 14 (41:38):
Or what shot got your shotgun.

Speaker 2 (41:40):
Yeah, I don't have a problem at all with loading
your own.

Speaker 1 (41:44):
There's a couple of reasons.

Speaker 2 (41:45):
One, you'll save a little money overall if you actually
if you get with it and learn how to do
it efficiently and effectively.

Speaker 1 (41:52):
And and it also allows you to kind.

Speaker 2 (41:54):
Of tinker with little loads, yeah, changes you might want
to make. The other thing is that when you sit
there and start reloading shotgun shells, it's almost therapeutic.

Speaker 1 (42:06):
It's just it's almost hypnoticy there.

Speaker 3 (42:08):
Yeah, I agree with you.

Speaker 2 (42:09):
Down handle, up handle, move it around. Down handle, up handle,
move it around, and you can just kind of get
lost in that and not worry about what who's hollering
at you to go to the grocery store or mow
the lawn or whatever it is you need to do,
or kids are giving you trouble, and just non, I
gotta reload a few more boxes.

Speaker 13 (42:29):
You know.

Speaker 14 (42:31):
Yeah, well, you know, because I don't really shoot a
lot right now, because I'm thinking I don't want to
shoot at my shelves. I don't I don't want to
go buy no more m M. And I'm thinking if
I just start loading low on shells, I won't be
so worried about going wasting some shells on targets or whatever. Sure,
because I'm like, oh, I just load some more.

Speaker 2 (42:51):
Yeah, well, you say, because you also, if you're reloading,
you just when you finished shooting around a skeeter, around
a trap or sporting plays whatever, You've got one hundred
holes that you.

Speaker 1 (43:03):
Can go reload again and again and again. You're not
paying for new holes every time you go shoot.

Speaker 14 (43:10):
Yeah, exactly. You know what I think about that? That
it even makes more sense.

Speaker 1 (43:13):
Yep.

Speaker 14 (43:14):
I don't know how long them holes last. I mean,
how many shots you can run through them before you
can't use them.

Speaker 1 (43:19):
I don't know the number, but it's quite a few.

Speaker 14 (43:20):
Figure that out.

Speaker 1 (43:21):
Yeah, and you bring a grocery shack.

Speaker 2 (43:23):
You can pick them up all over the during sporting
clays ranges and trap and skeep field. They're all over
the place, and the people who work there probably don't
care too much unless you just start emptying their trash cans,
because I'm sure they resell those things too, they sell
them to a wholesaler.

Speaker 14 (43:37):
So far yeah, yeah, yeah, run.

Speaker 2 (43:42):
Out of empty holes to load if you're out there
just shooting with your buddies and get all your buddies
to give you their holes too.

Speaker 14 (43:49):
Plus, well, I'm going I tell you a while back,
I'm going to four to ten because I'm a little
bit older. I almost talk you.

Speaker 1 (43:57):
Yeah, and I have five will save money.

Speaker 14 (43:59):
If I load my own too. For turkey loads, I
could put a little more up in them because I'm
loading myself.

Speaker 1 (44:06):
Just don't just don't over own them. Stay within the book.

Speaker 14 (44:10):
Okay, Oh yeah, yeah, yeah, I'm with you there.

Speaker 3 (44:13):
Yeah, I'll tell you a quick.

Speaker 2 (44:16):
I'll tell you a quick reloading story. And then I
got to kind of hustle out of here. Years ago
in high school, one of my friend's dads had a reloader, okay,
and my buddies and I were just dumb enough that
we wondered what would happen if we put different things
into those.

Speaker 1 (44:32):
Shot shells other than lead pellets.

Speaker 2 (44:35):
And oh yeah, we whipped up about a half a
box that had just miscellaneous nuts and bolts out of
his his big jar in the Manna's jar full of
nuts and bolts in the garage. Yeah, and that was
fun because a lot of that stuff would whistle when
it came out the barrel.

Speaker 1 (44:54):
The other thing that we found interesting was with a.

Speaker 2 (44:56):
Full powder load, and then the wad go in on
top of that, and then inside of that goes a marble,
a standard sized marble. And I'm not exactly sure what
the muzzle velocity was that marble coming out of a
twelve gage barrel, but it was way faster than any
lead pellets ever flew in history.

Speaker 1 (45:17):
I mean, those things.

Speaker 14 (45:18):
Were just funny.

Speaker 1 (45:19):
They just you could just hear.

Speaker 2 (45:20):
The air sizzling as they left that barrel, just when
they were gone. Man, yeah, it was. It was very stupid,
very stupid in hindsight. But nobody got hurt.

Speaker 14 (45:31):
Yeah that's so good.

Speaker 1 (45:32):
Nobody got hurt.

Speaker 14 (45:32):
Good thing that all right?

Speaker 4 (45:35):
Real quick?

Speaker 14 (45:36):
Yeah, let me just say this real quick. On these
new bass tournaments, and I know they're having much issues
with all that. What I would like to see is
forget the down imaging and all that. I would say,
each lake the tournament needs to say okay and tell
them a week in advance, because the younger guys will
be lost. Shorty guys will understand say, for this lake,

(45:59):
all you're going to use as a topographical map and
a flasher. Oh that's it. Yeah, the young guys have
to learn quick how to use a flasher like we
did back in the day. You know that that would
make it more interesting of a tournament.

Speaker 2 (46:12):
You could almost if you really wanted to bear bones
that you could just make it because here's your map.

Speaker 1 (46:18):
Good luck.

Speaker 14 (46:19):
Yeah, yes, that would Yeah.

Speaker 1 (46:22):
I think it would be amazing.

Speaker 2 (46:25):
And you would actually have to know bass habits, which
would drive everybody crazy because now that we have forward
facing sonar, everybody.

Speaker 1 (46:33):
Knows that a lot of the biggest bass in.

Speaker 2 (46:35):
The lake are out in the middle of nowhere, and
it would just make their minds explode.

Speaker 1 (46:39):
But it'd be fun to watch.

Speaker 14 (46:41):
That would be great.

Speaker 1 (46:42):
Yeah, thank you, oh, thank you. All Right, we gotta
take a little break.

Speaker 2 (46:47):
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Speaker 1 (47:17):
All right, welcome back.

Speaker 2 (47:18):
I'm gonna blink and have to go to another break here.
The tire reef in Fort Lauderdale did not work out well.
Alabama was one, I think, kind of a trendsetter. And
this was back also like in the nineteen eighties maybe
I think it was they went to the US Army

(47:38):
or the army came to them and said, hey, what
about tossing some tanks in the water. That'd make a
pretty cool underwater reef. Also makes a cool dive site,
but it's primarily They primarily did it for the fishing
off their coast, and that was a hugely successful program.
And but what they it's not just as easy as

(47:59):
just is just loading those things onto barges on a
crane and then tipping them over, kind of like if
you're evading hoodie rockets in the Persian Gulf and losing
one hundred million dollar jets off the side. That's happened
twice now, I believe, in any event, So they took
these tanks out there after they had removed every petrochemical

(48:24):
drop from these things. They completely wash them out, scrub
them out. There's no I don't believe there's any rubber
or plastic on a tank. I'm not sure there is,
and if there is, it's not enough to matter, probably,
But they get these things actually cleaned up where they're
not going to be an environmental hazard.

Speaker 1 (48:40):
Like those gosh awful tires were.

Speaker 2 (48:42):
Maybe that's why they cleaned those tanks so thoroughly as
they found out what happened to off Fort Lauderdale.

Speaker 1 (48:47):
The bottom line is those things took real well.

Speaker 2 (48:50):
We have fads all over the Texas coast well offshore
fish attracting devices that are molded concrete plat or pieces
that provide cover for small fish from big fish. And
wherever there's a bunch of little fish hiding, the big
fish are gonna come around. There are numerous little shrimp

(49:14):
boat wrecks and stuff like that off the Texas coast
that all provide cover for fish. And there are a
lot of people working very hard to come up with
even better, more innovative ideas about artificial reefing off the
whole entire United States coast, then around the world too.

Speaker 1 (49:34):
And the more the merrier, the more cover those fish have,
the more fish we're gonna have.

Speaker 2 (49:38):
It's just as simple as that The reason that fishing
and hunting appealed to us growing up was that it
got us away from an office desk.

Speaker 1 (49:48):
It got us away from the.

Speaker 2 (49:49):
Landline phone that might ring and somebody wants you to
have to go do something else. That there were a
lot of reasons that we wanted to be distracted from
what was then a very simple life, even in hindsight,
because we needed that connection with nature. And now what's
being forced into the mix is technology. There's so much

(50:14):
technology in nature now, and I'm not saying it's bad,
but maybe just maybe just used in moderation rather than
one hundred percent dependency on it. I go back to
that same quote from that same young pro. You can't
catch them if you can't see him. That's such a

(50:34):
load of hooey. It's it's garbage that he's so wrong.
He is so wrong, And everybody from my era knows better.
You can catch them if you know where to look,
if you know when to go to what spot. They
don't care about that. Now they've got a crutch. They

(50:55):
got this forward facing sonar. Oh there's one right there,
drop something down, watch the fish eat the lure. That's
not that's not what fishing is supposed to do. It's
supposed to to give us something else to think about
that is relaxing and pleasant, makes you work a little bit,

(51:17):
maybe not very hard to just drive around and watch
a TV. I do that at the house. I put
wheels on my recliner, and I can do that at
the house.

Speaker 1 (51:28):
That's ridiculous.

Speaker 2 (51:30):
I'm not a big fan of forward facing sonar in competition. Now,
if that's what makes it easier for you to go
catch fish with your grandkids or.

Speaker 1 (51:39):
Something like that, more power to you.

Speaker 2 (51:42):
But if you don't know how to just go fishing
and not really worry too much about it, then we're
all going to be lost. And I'm not talking about
this audience. Honestly, this audience knows better. This audience, I believe,
feels a little bit more like I do. And if
you disagree with me on any of this, by all means,
please let me know. I'd love to talk to you.

(52:05):
Let me catch Kevin real quick. Hey Kevin, what's up man?

Speaker 1 (52:08):
Hey Doug?

Speaker 3 (52:09):
How you doing?

Speaker 9 (52:10):
Hey?

Speaker 14 (52:10):
Yeah?

Speaker 16 (52:11):
I sent you my rushmore, one of the things on
the salt water that I've I've really it's my one
of my go tos. Have you ever thrown a crocodile spoons?

Speaker 1 (52:21):
I have?

Speaker 16 (52:22):
Yeah, absolutely crocodiles that They're actually a little more dance
than the Johnson sprite and you can whip those things
for a mile.

Speaker 1 (52:31):
Oh sure, that's one.

Speaker 3 (52:33):
Of my go tos.

Speaker 16 (52:35):
Yeah, Mount Rushmore that I sent you to. Also, I
included offshore lures.

Speaker 1 (52:41):
Oh what did you have it? How did I miss
that email? What? What do you got for offshore? I
sent it to you off shore?

Speaker 16 (52:49):
The Rappaala, Yeah, diving lure for trolling.

Speaker 1 (52:53):
Oh yeah, big old wahoo lure. Man, that's good stuff.

Speaker 16 (52:55):
The white and white and red was always our go to.

Speaker 2 (52:58):
Color, that one white and red for almost anything, really
yeah yeah.

Speaker 16 (53:02):
And then the tube jigs for trolling picking up dolphin
around the Yeah yeah, that's good stuff. The Russell lures
are always a good go to. You know, you know
that that was one of the weirdest. The first time
I saw one of those, I thought, Holy cow, what.

Speaker 1 (53:20):
Is this gonna do? But boy, they were so well built, and.

Speaker 2 (53:24):
They also gave you that I think it was three
options of where to where to.

Speaker 1 (53:29):
Hook the swivel to make it go a little deeper,
a little.

Speaker 2 (53:31):
Shallower, and oh my god, when you get out there
dragging those around rigs and stuff, it was like, Oh,
if there's a kingfish within two miles, he's gonna find it.

Speaker 3 (53:40):
Yeah.

Speaker 16 (53:41):
Those snapper slapper which you're again drop drop bait and
then diamond jigs are always good.

Speaker 2 (53:48):
Yeah yeah, but do they belong on the mount rushmore
of saltwater fishing for well for offshore? Yeah yeah, separate Yeah, sure,
we're gonna need more mountains. We're gonna need a mountains.
We'll talk next week, you bet.

Speaker 1 (54:07):
Audios. Let's get Mike in real quick. Mike, what's up?

Speaker 3 (54:10):
Man?

Speaker 1 (54:11):
More than young man doing I'm good.

Speaker 11 (54:15):
Using technology is like going grocery shopping. If you don't
use your five senses, you're not experiencing the real thing.

Speaker 1 (54:23):
Hmm okay, I agree with that.

Speaker 2 (54:25):
Yeah, yeah, I'm gonna take a sniff of some of
that stuff. I'm buying some of them in the produce
department for sure.

Speaker 11 (54:32):
Yeah. If you're already locating your you're quarrying. You know,
you're missing half the deal.

Speaker 2 (54:41):
You know, that's that's so true. Man, You're just not
taking advantage of all your senses. I could I could
just see somebody out there trying to bass fish and
looking for a giant bass.

Speaker 1 (54:52):
And behind them is a school.

Speaker 2 (54:55):
Of bass pushing a bunch of a shad to the
top and blowing up all over the place.

Speaker 1 (55:00):
And these guys are still looking at the TV.

Speaker 11 (55:02):
Yep, that's all I got, bud, all right?

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Email me Dougpike at iHeartMedia dot com. It just happens
all too often all around the country. Boating accidents, collisions,
people who can't swim try to swim. I talked about
that on fifty plus. There were a lot of things
I could do as a younger guy.

Speaker 1 (56:36):
In the water. I love the water. I love being
around the water. Any water.

Speaker 2 (56:39):
I don't care a ditch that's got four inch long
perch in it.

Speaker 1 (56:43):
I'm there.

Speaker 2 (56:44):
I modifying my equipment a little bit. I'm not gonna
I'm not gonna bring a bazooka to swat flies, but
I'll fish anywhere there's fish.

Speaker 1 (56:55):
I'll swim anywhere I can.

Speaker 2 (56:58):
I'll I haven't been served in a while, but I
kind of want to get back in the water. In fact,
I'm gonna I'm gonna tell Cliff if I come down
there to fish with him and it's too bumpy and
the surf's okay, I'm gonna ask to borrow one of
his boards and see if I still have the ability
to jump up quickly onto a surfboard once I've caught
a wave. I want to think that I do, but

(57:21):
it's been long enough now that it will feel somewhat uncomfortable.
And before I do that, before I even try to
do that, I'm gonna practice it about a thousand times
on the floor of the den, on the drive, I
don't care where. I'm gonna practice popping up quickly. And
then I'm also gonna get one of those little balance

(57:43):
boards and that I can wobble around on and try
to maintain my posture. I still have good balance, but
I don't have I don't know that I have surfing
balance anymore, if that makes any sense. If you if
you've not surfed in a while, and you tried it
a couple of weeks ago for the first time in
more than two or three years, you know what I'm

(58:04):
talking about seven one three two one two five seven
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Speaker 1 (58:11):
I did have a good email.

Speaker 2 (58:12):
Let me grab that email real quick, and it makes
sense to do exactly what he was talking about.

Speaker 1 (58:19):
Um, gotta roll back up a little higher. Here, got that?
Got that? Where did it go? Who was it?

Speaker 15 (58:25):
There?

Speaker 13 (58:25):
It is?

Speaker 1 (58:26):
I think it was Mike, Yeah, Mike, Mike waid In.

Speaker 2 (58:28):
Well he he cheats and fishes with David Dillman, but
he says, I usually ask Captain Hillman which bait has
worked lately.

Speaker 1 (58:37):
Well, that's that's a good start for sure. Chick it
on a chain. Paddletail has always been a good start
for me.

Speaker 2 (58:44):
Bass assassin, lagoon of shrimp, Pink paddletail goldflakes works great
in different conditions.

Speaker 1 (58:50):
There are so many that's just.

Speaker 2 (58:53):
You start with those two, and then you could just
fill your box with about ten thousand other different color
combinations and sizes.

Speaker 1 (58:59):
Now and now we have to think.

Speaker 2 (59:01):
About the jig head we're putting it on, and just
all of these different different lures and top waters and
suspending baits and swim baits and things that just grind
right down to the bottom. I actually am thinking about
changing the hooks and hardware out on a couple of

(59:22):
just traditional bass fishing crank baits to throw in that
surf down in corpus.

Speaker 1 (59:28):
There is absolutely no reason in the world to think
that that won't work. But a maradith will mariden maradime
meridean tomato tomato.

Speaker 2 (59:40):
That won't work, but one of those will.

Speaker 1 (59:46):
Crank baits, I tell you what.

Speaker 2 (59:48):
A crank bait bounced off the jetty rocks catch you
more redfish than you think, either from the boat or not,
because that you can run them down pretty deep and
then just run them back.

Speaker 1 (01:00:00):
Well, it's easier from.

Speaker 2 (01:00:01):
A boat because you can position yourself to where you
can throw parallel and run that. Depending on how big
the lip is on it and which way it's pointed,
run that thing way down or keep it up close
to the top. But you can run it very close
to the rocks without hitting the rocks if you're just
in the right spot.

Speaker 1 (01:00:20):
And man, the next.

Speaker 2 (01:00:22):
Winning stringer of redfish or winning bag of redfish whatever.
And a lot of these professional tournaments that's caught on crankbaits
won't be the first. It won't be the first A
lot of those guys who'd come here from out of state,
the professional redfish people. That's how they were catching their fish.
They were very good at it too, very very good
at it. Kevin Wade in this is interesting. First, he

(01:00:46):
said he was going to send me a picture of
his Saturday.

Speaker 1 (01:00:48):
Morning eight am pool game. I'm waiting for that, unless
it's already here somewhere else. I haven't seen that.

Speaker 2 (01:00:56):
Maybe maybe it's on my text something I said listening
to the show. He continues, there's a question he has here,
or just to toss this out a little Mount Rushmore, okay,
and you take one off and put one on. He
starts today, He says, here with the Daisy Red Rider

(01:01:19):
and the Zebco thirty three classic, I will take one off.
I'll leave the Red Rider and I will take off
the zeb COO thirty three to add the Ambassador five thousand,

(01:01:40):
which totally changed the fishing world, especially coastal fishing, and
then the direct drive went away in fresh water as well.

Speaker 1 (01:01:52):
But I'll leave the Red Rider there.

Speaker 2 (01:01:54):
That is kind of as that's the old guard. Almost
everybody who's who grew up before somebody decided you couldn't
shoot BB guns in neighborhoods.

Speaker 1 (01:02:08):
Every almost all of us had at least one, I believe.

Speaker 11 (01:02:11):
Yeah.

Speaker 2 (01:02:12):
Actually, my friend Rick Stovall gave one to my son
when he was young, and we we pushed free bbs
through that thing seven one, three, two two five, seven ninety.
So I've got now the Daisy Red Rider and the
Ambassador five thousand. You can take one off and replace
it with something else. And boy, there's all kinds of

(01:02:34):
candidates for and actually there's room for four, so you
can add.

Speaker 1 (01:02:40):
We'll leave the Red Rider.

Speaker 2 (01:02:42):
I'm gonna I'm gonna make a little note of this
and kind of see how it unfolds are and he
started with the zeb Cooe thirty three. I added the
Ambassador five thousand, So there's still room for one more.

Speaker 1 (01:02:59):
In the hunting side. Let's just do this with emails. Hey,
call if you want to. Oh yeah, Captain Scott wide In.

Speaker 2 (01:03:06):
I'm not surprised that he jumped in as quickly as
he did either.

Speaker 3 (01:03:09):
He wants to.

Speaker 2 (01:03:10):
We're adding now the Remington eight seventy, which I wish
i'd have thought of that first. My god, I don't
know how many of those I've owned. And yeah, so
you got that one. And then he's also adding the
green Corrado. But he didn't tell me what to take off.
I tell you what we're gonna We're gonna add the
green Corrado and we're gonna take off.

Speaker 1 (01:03:34):
We're taking off the thirty three. I don't I don't
think a I don't think.

Speaker 2 (01:03:40):
A spin spin casting, a push button reel belongs on
Mount Rushmore.

Speaker 1 (01:03:47):
I think it's it's great.

Speaker 2 (01:03:49):
It was innovative at the time, and a lot of
people had him. I think if you if you want
to put a Zepco reel on there, you'd almost have
to use the two O two because that was the
that was the working man's reel. Not everybody could afford
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So we got the Daisy Red Rider in the Remiston
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and I have one in mind. I have one rifle
in mind for Mount Rushmore of outdoors equipment, hunting and
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Dougpike Show. Thanks for listening, Brad weade in he said, man, hey,
maybe tell you your listeners what zebco stands for?

Speaker 1 (01:05:53):
Zebco.

Speaker 2 (01:05:54):
Originally the company made not fishing reels. Zepco was zero
our bomb company, and it was I think it was
like a.

Speaker 1 (01:06:03):
Alarm clocks or something like that.

Speaker 2 (01:06:04):
Maybe they or timers of some sort, I believe, but
that's the actual company name and the story of how
they went from that to fishing reels.

Speaker 1 (01:06:13):
I don't recall.

Speaker 2 (01:06:15):
I knew it at one point, but I guess it
just wasn't It wasn't important enough to make it stick
for me. Billy waded in a little while ago, and
he said, throwing it against the wall to see if
it'll stick instead of the ambassador or what about the
old golden Calcutta.

Speaker 1 (01:06:34):
Hm also good, also good, but I don't think it boosted.

Speaker 2 (01:06:41):
I don't think it bumps the five thousand, not in
my mind anyway.

Speaker 1 (01:06:45):
That was such a game changer.

Speaker 2 (01:06:47):
And I remember saving up money to go buy my
first ambassador of five thousand at gem Co.

Speaker 3 (01:06:54):
Boy.

Speaker 2 (01:06:54):
No, almost nobody in this audience probably remembers Jimco. Oh
my god, it was about I want to say, it
was like thirty nine dollars and that was big money
back then.

Speaker 1 (01:07:05):
That was really big money back then. Holy Cow.

Speaker 2 (01:07:09):
Also on the lure selection side of Mount Rushmore that
we're going to play with there, the saltwater side, and
I think most of the people in this audience would
agree that you almost have to put a mirrorlure on there.

Speaker 1 (01:07:23):
You have to put that up there.

Speaker 2 (01:07:26):
I've owned I don't know how many of them over
the years. I got to be buddies with the guy
who owns the company years ago, fished with him and
his brother.

Speaker 1 (01:07:34):
Actually a few times we made.

Speaker 2 (01:07:36):
One little trip that they almost wanted to go incognito
because his brother liked to snook fish down there in
Florida with live, live pilchards, and we would go throw
a cast net to get the bait, and then they
used I don't know if you've seen those, Frankie, surely

(01:07:58):
you've seen those kids softball, not softball bats, but just
kind of toy plastic bats that are the barrel of
its oversize.

Speaker 1 (01:08:06):
It's as big as a cand lopo almost yesterday.

Speaker 3 (01:08:09):
Did you know.

Speaker 2 (01:08:10):
Okay, So imagine taking that and cutting cutting about half
of that barrel out from the middle of the of
the fat part out.

Speaker 1 (01:08:18):
To the end. And what these guys would do. They waited,
and we waited. It was so fun to do this.

Speaker 2 (01:08:26):
You wade up on kind of a sand hole in
a grass bed, and the snook and big trout and
whatnot would back into that grass and just keep an
eyeball out for food that swam into the open area.
And that'd be the size maybe of the room I'm
sitting in here, the studio I'm in here, maybe a
little smaller, maybe a little bigger.

Speaker 1 (01:08:44):
Whatever. But when they got thirty or four about.

Speaker 2 (01:08:48):
Within casting range, they would take some of their baits
out of their bucket or even you can do it
drift fishing too, and drop them into that opening and
then sling it and.

Speaker 1 (01:09:01):
That extra length and that just made.

Speaker 2 (01:09:04):
It possible to throw live fish thirty forty yards just
sing them out there and they'd pop into that sand hole,
and if nothing happened, he'd just go to another sand
hole and do it again. But if there was any
kind of a big fish in there, as soon as
that bait hit the water, it's just bam. They were

(01:09:24):
on it and would clabor it. And so yeah, we
had a lot of We had a lot of fun
fishing down there. A quick sidebar back to the old days,
and yeah, that was fun. I actually ran into him
on a boat ramp down there on an entirely different
trip that I made to Florida many years ago.

Speaker 1 (01:09:41):
He was backing his boat in.

Speaker 2 (01:09:42):
And we were It was one of Mark Nichols deals
from DA and I saw the mirror lure man.

Speaker 1 (01:09:49):
I said, man, hey, I hadn't seen you in a while.

Speaker 2 (01:09:52):
It was after I had made that trip with him
and his brother, probably probably the next year or so.

Speaker 1 (01:09:56):
And he remembered who I was. It was fun. We
talked ers for about ten minutes.

Speaker 2 (01:10:01):
He was trying to get back home for something, and
the guys I was fishing with were wanting to get
moving again, and we just stood there and talked about lures,
and finally they realized who I was talking to and
came over and we had a good time. Seven one three, two,
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(01:10:23):
grandpa in Mississippi when he was young, fished for a
fish that they called jackfish, and as it turns out,
that was just a local name, nothing like the jack
craval that a lot of people here called jackfish.

Speaker 1 (01:10:39):
And you either love them or you hate them.

Speaker 2 (01:10:42):
And once you've caught enough of them, because they're they're
tremendous fighters, tremendously strong fish. They're just muscle and eyeballs
and tail, that's it. Once you've caught enough.

Speaker 1 (01:10:53):
Of them, it's like okay.

Speaker 2 (01:10:55):
Especially if you're trout fishing and you hook a jack
and all your buddies are still at your trout, you
know that you're gonna miss ten or fifteen minutes of
trout fishing just trying to get that jack back close
enough where you can get it off your line. Anyway,
in Mississippi, the jackfish is actually a chain pickerel, And

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if you don't know what that is, it's a freshwater fish.

Speaker 1 (01:11:19):
That is kin to the northern pike, kin to the musky.

Speaker 2 (01:11:24):
It's kind of a long, slender thing, probably somewhere in
its family tree related.

Speaker 1 (01:11:30):
To the gar.

Speaker 2 (01:11:31):
That's what it's closest to in shape, But it doesn't
get nearly so big as an alligator gar. They probably
get up to fifteen twenty pounds, I would bet, no bigger,
and the average I would guess is probably two to three,
much like a largemouth pass I actually caught. I told
Frankie I caught one one time.

Speaker 1 (01:11:49):
That's the only one I've ever caught.

Speaker 2 (01:11:51):
Came from Lake Conro when it had been stock with
them several years earlier.

Speaker 1 (01:11:56):
And mine apparently was.

Speaker 2 (01:11:57):
The offspring of one of those stockfish, because it was
not much bigger than my hand, and it ate a
pretty good sized lure, if I remember. It was a hungry, aggressive,
little chain pickerel. But I'm afraid the large mouths got
to it before it got any bigger.

Speaker 1 (01:12:16):
And that was the one and only one of those I.

Speaker 2 (01:12:19):
Saw up there. Ever, pretty sure it was at Conra.
I'm about eighty five percent sure it was Conra. I
fished on so many different fishing on so many different lakes,
and loved every single minute of it.

Speaker 1 (01:12:29):
I still can't get enough of fishing, and I don't
know what it is. It just it soothes me. It
lowers my blood pressure.

Speaker 2 (01:12:38):
It makes me feel right about the world to just
be out there fishing. And I can be fishing with
somebody else as long as they know what they're doing,
or by myself.

Speaker 1 (01:12:48):
It really doesn't matter. Good Heavens, look at the time.

Speaker 2 (01:12:51):
All right, we're gonna get out of here, be thinking
about what lures.

Speaker 1 (01:12:56):
Well, that's it for now. Stay safe, get outside, have
some fun with yes