Unless You're at the Ballet, Go Ahead and Take Your Pants Off

On this episode, Doug talks to Cameron Plaag about his incredible recent fishing expedition, reminisces about radio tinkering with his grandfather, and much more.

Episode Transcript

Speaker 1 (00:00):
All right, Sunday edition. The program starts right now if
you if you haven't seen it, I put a little
put a little notice up on Facebook a little while
ago to let you know that I have an interview
scheduled at eight thirty today with someone who, uh, someone
who has a very interesting story to tell. I'm not
gonna say much more about about it than that, And
I did give a clue and it's it's it's gonna

(00:22):
take some thinking for many of you to figure out
how this clue is relevant to this interview. But it's
in some way related to a CBS pharmacy receipt. Now,
this is a phishing interview, and I'll tie it all
in when when he comes on maybe. But that's I

(00:45):
think that's all I can tell you right now without
giving it away. But it's it's gonna be good. This
guy has done something that may not be done for
a long, long, long, long long time to come, if
it's ever done again, by the way, and I'm proud
to know the kid.

Speaker 2 (01:02):
Uh.

Speaker 1 (01:02):
In any event, let me see what I've got on
my tab this wint Oh, well, how can I miss it?
We're we're on full countdown now, we're at four weeks
away from dove season opening twenty eight days, and it's
it's time to get your stuff together. Okay, it's time.
It's time to find out that when when you go
back to the closet and you pull out the pants

(01:24):
you wore dove hunting on opening day last year, there's
a pretty good chance that while they sat in that
closet for one year, they shrunk, especially in the waist waste.
Maybe might have shruck two inches. Maybe just maybe somebody
dried them on hot maybe somebody washed them in hot water,

(01:45):
but probably not good hunting pants don't need babysitting, they
don't need to be pampered, and you certainly wouldn't want
to send them on I can I can spot somebody
that kind of maybe maybe you'll fit in with the group,
maybe won't. If they if they walk into dove hunting

(02:07):
camp and they have creases in their pants, that's that's
somebody who's who's not washing his own pants for starters,
is maybe even sending them to the dry cleaners. I
just I can't see any rhyme or reason for doing that.
Back when I was guiding six seven days a week,

(02:28):
I had I think three pairs of pants in rotation,
uh for normal conditions, and then you had your super
cold day pants which sometimes did or sometimes did not
go along with with long underwear. Underneath that you had
shirts that you had to wear. And all of us

(02:48):
were smart enough after doing it as long as we
did to dress in layers. I'll tell you with them
just thinking of it very quickly, the biggest game changer
as a waterfowl guide and waterfowl hunter back when I
was doing it, was the introduction of gortex. That that
amazing fabric that would breathe, It would let the hot

(03:11):
air out and away from your body, but it would
keep you warm and keep you dry up. Until then,
it was wool and flannel and plastic coats that we
wore to keep the rain off of us. It was
either kind of an all or nothing thing. And that's

(03:32):
something I don't hear brought up very often when we
talk about innovations in the outdoors. But gortex, just that
breathable fabric that was also water repellent, water resistant, that
was a big deal. It really was. I sat out
I don't know how many years I sat there in
one of those plastic Butcher's coats I don't even know

(03:53):
if those were for butchery. The cloth ones were more
for the butchers. We had a lot of those too,
and after one hunt they would never be white again.
I don't care how much bleach you put on them,
don't I don't care what you did to them. You
couldn't clean them up. The blood stains, the mud stains,
all of that just ruined those. The plastic ones were okay.

(04:16):
You could take them home and hose them off, which
is what we had to do after pretty much any
rainy day or wet field day hunt. These guys would
just throw those things in the back of your pickup truck, like, hey,
we're in a rent car. We don't care about anything.
We're in a rent car. We came down here from
Indiana and we goose hunted for three days, and all

(04:37):
of this trash is yours, see you later. It was fun.
I did enjoy guiding. I met a lot of people
from around the world, literally, and most of them were
very We're very excited to be where we were because
we were in we were at the epicenter of waterfowl
hunting as far as I'm concerned anyway, And I don't
know anybody who'd tell me wrong, tell me I was wrong.

(04:59):
I don't know how I got to this. I wasn't
even going to talk about duck and goose hunting. But
there I am doing it again. Dove season brought me there.
By the way, I've got twenty eight days to go
get one of those Camo rocking chairs at John Aikman
from Country Boys Roofing told me about yesterday. I did,
I had. I had not seen those, and I don't

(05:20):
know why. I guess it was just I was so
focused on trying to find something just in a hurry,
if I was in an out of town store, or
just maybe to go with the color scheme of my
son's team, if I was here in town on a
casual trip. But it didn't even dawn on me to
take one of those things into the field. And I

(05:41):
would have if if they didn't make one in Camo,
I would have been perfectly willing to just buy some
Camo blind netting and drape it over there, just sit
in there like a guy in a rocking gilly suit.
That wouldn't have been too bad. Coastal Fisherman Finally get oh,
let's go talk to Rick. There we go, look at
this stand by Rick Bies, what's going on, my friend?

Speaker 3 (06:05):
I've got a fishing little question, all right, now, I
can I can figure this out with a sledgehammer and
maybe a vice by brushing it. But I was this
week about three hundred miles from the near salt Water
in an old barn in the state sail and I
found a tackle box had a bunch of mirror lures.

Speaker 1 (06:27):
I saw that sent me.

Speaker 3 (06:31):
Yeah, but they wouldn't go through.

Speaker 1 (06:32):
Oh no, I got it anyway, Yeah, I got them.

Speaker 3 (06:35):
I had a catch. I had a catch two thousand,
is that right? I had one in my hand, and
I had on a pair of brush pants through them,
real heavy pants. Got that that, don't you, cactus? You
don't want somebody won't go through?

Speaker 2 (06:53):
Yeah? Sure.

Speaker 3 (06:55):
And of course I'm sitting there playing around with them,
and I get a hook, treble hooking that stuff. Okay, okay,
and it ain't coming out. Okay. I've got a pair
of little side cutters, and I couldn't cut the hook
too small, So I thought, okay, I'll roll it. I'll

(07:16):
roll it through on through. It's like Doug Wood. I
mashed the ball about and I'd roll it right back
out which it worked perfect.

Speaker 1 (07:25):
Yeah, there you go.

Speaker 3 (07:27):
Had me worried there for a while. I thought I
was gonna have have me by the saide of the left. Well,
the next thing I'm doing, I gotta get in the
truck and it's gonna get tongue in my car seat.
And now I'm gonna beat dumb duck anyway.

Speaker 1 (07:37):
Where wherever you're standing, if that ever happens again, wherever
you're standing, unless you're in you know, unless you're at
the ballet or something, take your pants off so you
can work with the front end of that hook without
having to try to rip up your pants on. Just
tear that thing off, So go ahead, Sorry.

Speaker 3 (07:55):
Any any that's all right. But my question is this,
And like I said, I can put one in a
vice and crushing in front of that all right. Those
lures are made out of some kind of hard plastic
or some hard.

Speaker 1 (08:10):
Material all day hard plastic, and.

Speaker 3 (08:14):
They've got these hooks on them. And that trailer hook
can catch a trout, it can catch a fifty pound
red fish, it can catch all kinds. It's get sharp whatever. Okay,
what holds that hook in there?

Speaker 1 (08:31):
A metal frame from coming Well, the some of the lures.
The older lures, there's a there's a little like a
little cradle there and they have a screw two screws,
a front and back screw where that hook can swing freely.
Some of them put them in there with just a
screw eye into the plastic, and unless you were to
catch something really really big, those screw eyes actually hold

(08:55):
very well. And then other lures, especially anything that's designed
to be and off shore, we'll have inside that plastic
which is basically just a two piece a left side
and the right side of the mold. Inside there is
a wire frame or a some sort of metal frame
to which all one, two or three hooks are attached.

(09:16):
So they're they're connected all the way from the line
eye to the rear end where the little ring is
that holds that tail hook, and they're not going anywhere.

Speaker 3 (09:28):
Well, makes sense. Challenges, Yeah, the challenge is on when
I get home to see him go out in my shop.
I'm gonna sacrifice one of them old and I'm gonna
quote it in a bass. I'm gonna crush it. I'm
onna find I'm gonna see it.

Speaker 1 (09:46):
You don't but you don't really you can. I'm looking
at the pictures of a couple of lures you have
on here, and if you'll just take those hooks and
twist them righty tidy, lefty lucy, just twist them left,
that little wring and that they're attached to will start
unscrewing for you, and you can. And it's it's about it.
It's about an honest quarter of an inch long screw

(10:08):
that's buried up in that plastic and it's it's got
a surprisingly good bite in there. It really does.

Speaker 4 (10:14):
It must it must have, because I'm.

Speaker 3 (10:17):
Sitting there and looking at thinking, and that thing can't
be if it's a screw, it can't be more than
a quarter in long, and if something's pulling on that,
something would have to crack or give.

Speaker 1 (10:28):
You can lift a cinder blocking.

Speaker 4 (10:31):
Yeah, I'm thinking.

Speaker 3 (10:32):
You're probably right because I felt like I had one
on there. Put on my finger.

Speaker 1 (10:36):
I'll bet, yeah, I bet man. Yeah, that's that's interesting.

Speaker 3 (10:40):
To let you know how much I'm gonna crush of it.

Speaker 1 (10:44):
Yeah, put it in there, you know. I want the
top in one ear on that thing and the bottom
in the other ear, and just crush it from top
to bottom and it'll split wide open.

Speaker 3 (10:54):
I'm gonna turn it, just little small turns until something
goes down and then imst see what happened.

Speaker 1 (11:00):
Safety goggles, Safety.

Speaker 3 (11:01):
Goggles, all right, man, yoh, gotta wear them with safety goggles.
And I really pass something more productive than do I
just don't.

Speaker 1 (11:10):
Okayes man, good luck, Oh thank you, mister wizard. Yeah,
he's a tinker. Rick Biss is a tinkerer, and by
any and every definition, he likes to find out how
stuff works. That's how most kids in our generation. He's
close to my age, and most of us grew up

(11:32):
that way. My grandfather who was an engineer for AT
and T and involved in some major major projects when
the first telephone lines were going up along the East coast,
New York to Miami lines being laid, and he was
part of that program. And he actually down at his
house after he retired. They were in southeast Florida, and

(11:53):
I was down there fishing all the time. But one
day he brought me out in the garage and he
showed me this old transistor radio and he said, this
thing's really not working right. And I'm sure it was.
It was fine, or maybe he tinkered with something to
make it not work right. He said, do you think
you could get inside it and just kind of see
what's going on for me? And I've got to go

(12:14):
work on my boat engine or something like that. He
built racing boats, and so I'm like maybe eight nine
years old, and he's got a bunch of tools laid
out on that bench and that radio is just sitting there.
And I stood there and I figured out which screwdriver,
figured out which tiny little wrench or whatever, and I

(12:35):
broke that radio down to about thirty forty pieces. And
he came back over there a little later, and I
got it all taken apart. I didn't have any problem
taking things apart. That was easy. You find the screw heads,
you unscrew them, and then you keep unscrewing screws until
something pops off. So I was pretty good at that.
And he came over and he said, you know, look

(12:57):
you there, Doug, there's what's causing the problem. And he
soldered something. I don't know what it was, but he
did something to it and said, good, it'll be light
new as soon as you put it back together. And
I just went pale, granddaddy, you think you could help
me do that? Well, you got it apart didn't you
pay attention to how you were taking it apart? And

(13:19):
this light bulb went off in my head like they
kind of duck my head, noser, Not really. There are
screws all over the all over the bench. There are
all kinds of springs and wires and whatever else was
in a transistor battery or a transistor radio. And he
very patiently showed me one time how to put that

(13:41):
back together, and then sat there with me and showed
me how he would have taken apart, taken it apart
and had it been his call. And I learned a
lot that day from my grandfather, who was a brilliant man,
absolutely brilliant. We got to take a break. By the way,
we have early dismissal so that we have to leave
at nine point thirty to make room for ut football.

(14:03):
Is that correct? It's the Astros pre game. Astros pregame
that early. Huh. I gotta go change my Facebook post.
I forgot about that they had that super early game today,
don't they all Right, Well, we're gonna take a break
on the way out Bellville meat Market. I'll fix that
during the break. Belleville meat Market is out on Highway
thirty six, about fifteen minutes north Sealy, fifteen minutes south

(14:25):
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plus flavors of premium sausage. You'll find stuffed pork, tender stuff,
pepper stuffed mushrooms. You'll find backyard barbecue supplies of every

(14:49):
kind you can imagine, whatever you need except for the
match to light the coles. I guess while game processing
year round and about a couple of months, it's gonna
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right now. If you've got an exotic or something you
need to bring in, just call them and let them
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(15:10):
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If there were more days, they'd be open more days
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(15:33):
all the horrible, horrible storms we've had through here in
my lifetime in a lot of years, you'll know the
importance of making sure your trees can handle a storm.
A tree that has a little bit of damage probably
can still be okay, a little bit of disease, a
little bit of malnutrition, whatever it is. And that's where

(15:54):
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and then help you get it back healthy before the
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The last thing you want is to wake up after
storm and see a tree laying across one of your vehicles,

(16:14):
maybe on your roof, maybe on the neighbor's roof, the fence, whatever.
Get them to your house, whatever work needs to be done.
Their crews will follow up with and get done. They
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to big old buckets to get high high high up there,
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(16:37):
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I do that? Sometimes? It's genuine. I grew up in
southwest Houston, so it's hardy. I'm hardly a country boy.
But when I get in the car and leave home,

(17:00):
I don't drive to go do something fun. I rarely,
maybe for an Astros game, drive toward town. All right,
we got some calls to take care, Dave, you're up first, Forest,
I'll get you in a second. What's up many?

Speaker 5 (17:14):
Yeah, yesterday before I left out of here and I'm
here again in the water, it's just really not even
his slick and the not too many clowns and.

Speaker 1 (17:23):
Way off there.

Speaker 5 (17:24):
But uh, yesterday, before I left out of here, there
was a young man over there with four of his
daughters and they weren't even hip high. They're all sitting
there on the grand rock, and I mean all four
of them's.

Speaker 2 (17:35):
Got a rotten reel.

Speaker 1 (17:36):
Oh that's cool, man.

Speaker 5 (17:37):
Then yeah, and then one of them she hooked into
about thirteen fourteen inch catfish, and the other sisters they
were keeping their eyes on their rotten reels, but they.

Speaker 2 (17:47):
Were catch it up.

Speaker 6 (17:49):
Yeah.

Speaker 5 (17:49):
Yeahh they were coaching her up, you know. And then
then he brought it in and then uh yeah, and
he let it back go.

Speaker 2 (17:58):
But uh and then.

Speaker 1 (17:59):
I said that man, you got four daughters.

Speaker 5 (18:01):
He goes, no, actually five, but the older one don't
like to fish.

Speaker 1 (18:07):
That's kind funny.

Speaker 5 (18:08):
I'm over here right now looking at that same spot. Yeah,
over here, and there's a young man over there with
his son, and uh, he don't look on He looks
maybe like thirteen thirteen years old maybe, but he's uh yeah,
he's he's chunking and waiting, you know, they're fishing. Sure,
you know, he's prayed some. He's prayed a little bit

(18:28):
of mosquito dope on him and make sure everything is good.

Speaker 1 (18:31):
Pretty good idea there?

Speaker 5 (18:33):
Yeah, hey, but uh oh and then uh oh, yesterday
I got I man, I got a big cat fish yesterday,
about eighteen nineteen inch long man cat Yeah. Yeah, my
brother gave it to me. I thought I went over
there to yeah, well, I need to like put it

(18:53):
in a bucket and have a throw it at me. Yeah,
but anyway, yeah, but anyway, Uh no, I play that
out the morning and like I say, even started fishing yet,
but uh yeah and uh until Yeah, Captain Cameron, you know,
uh man tell him hey and congratulates, and he's probably
listening right now, and it might be he would a

(19:17):
dull you know, I know you don't.

Speaker 1 (19:19):
Give away don't give away him a secret, man. I
just I hadn't told anybody this morning. I hadn't told anybody.
Let me let me sit on this one. Hey, I
got I gotta run. I gotta catch Forest and then
I gotta I gotta tee him up in a few minutes.
All right, I'll see man, all right, let me get
Forest in here. Make sure he's okay with laying rex

(19:41):
up there. How many fish y'all caught? Now?

Speaker 2 (19:45):
We got?

Speaker 3 (19:45):
I don't know, we're crowding half a dozen?

Speaker 4 (19:47):
Got one pretty good one here a minute ago on
a chatter bait.

Speaker 1 (19:50):
I thought you were just passing around the same fish
taking pictures of it. Don't we telling everybody my secret?

Speaker 2 (19:57):
Give away my secrets.

Speaker 7 (20:00):
He wasn't he he wasn't able to catch me, and
he was able to catch me in the left bicep though.
Oh nice, And I'm sure he had the barb mashed
down so it was easy to get out of your arm.
Oh yeah, it only it only took a doctor a
couple of minutes to get it out of there.

Speaker 2 (20:16):
But you know, I got to give him grief for that.

Speaker 1 (20:18):
Well, yeah, he deserves grief for that.

Speaker 2 (20:24):
He's back there on the stove. He wasn't fishing.

Speaker 1 (20:29):
Telling him to keep his head on a swivel. Man,
he's the one who drew first blood.

Speaker 4 (20:33):
You know, I'm watching him now. So we turned on
the cheater box ship. We're gonna turn it on. I
got Amy's back, then I give her a little many
deep dave of crank man.

Speaker 2 (20:42):
I'm gonna turn his cheater box.

Speaker 8 (20:43):
On here in a minute something.

Speaker 1 (20:45):
So lord, don't get geitar Day.

Speaker 2 (20:49):
Hello, getitar Day.

Speaker 8 (20:50):
I'm gonna go thirty just to say hi to him.

Speaker 2 (20:53):
It ain't too far from my eye.

Speaker 1 (20:54):
Yeah, you guys ought to go fish somewhere together. That'd
be kind of fun.

Speaker 5 (20:58):
Hey.

Speaker 2 (20:58):
Man.

Speaker 7 (20:59):
On the golf course, we're on the fourteenth hole at
Whispering Pine.

Speaker 1 (21:02):
Oh I know exactly where you are. Yeah, wow, good
for you, man, see Chris Rowe come by. Tell him.
I said, hello, Oh yeah, we will. He'll come out
there and run you off very watch out.

Speaker 7 (21:15):
He told me to ride my wave runner over the
golf course.

Speaker 2 (21:18):
He picked me up, So.

Speaker 1 (21:19):
No, that's not a bad idea.

Speaker 2 (21:21):
Yeah, all right.

Speaker 1 (21:23):
Boys, Well, I gotta I gotta go. I got an
interview coming up in a minute that I want to
get on time because I want to give this guy
some time. I hope you get a chance to listen
to it. It's pretty good, all right, good man, I'll
see you guys later, you bet audios. Thanks guys. All right,
I'll tell you I'm gonna go ahead and go to
this break early because I want to give the kid
I'm bringing on here and Dave kind of let the

(21:44):
cat out of the bag a little bit. But if
you don't know what Cameron Plog did this week, I'm
gonna tell you when we get back. He and I
are going to tell you on the way out real quick.
El Cubano not Cubano Cigars. El Cubano Cigars a manufacturing
facility down there in Texas City, one of them, only
four dozen in the whole country. Manny Lopez, that's his company.

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He and several other people of Cuban Cuban descent are
down there rolling cigars pretty much every day. They ship
hundreds of cigars every day all over the country. And
then if you you don't have to you don't have
to wait for him to be delivered by somebody, you
can just go down there and buy them out of
their big walk in humidor. He keeps hundreds of them

(22:28):
in stock and on hand. They make about one hundred
and fifty different kinds, and he also does custom work,
which is really cool. That's why it's kind of nice
to have this manufacturing facility. If you want to wow
a client of yours, if you want to make somebody
really happy, if you want to celebrate your big charity
golf tournament with cigars that really commemorate the event, have

(22:50):
him work up some custom cigars and then put bands
on those cigars that recognize whatever is most importance s
to you for that event. He'll even come out and
pop set up one of those little canopies and sit
under there at a folding table and roll cigars personally
for your guests. He brings all kinds of tobacco with him,

(23:12):
several different varieties and can they make at El Cubano
Cigars about it. Like I said, one hundred and fifty varieties,
everything from very mild to very robust and very hearty
thick smoke cigars, cool places to go in those lounges.
There's one in Texas City where the manufacturing goes on,
and there's one in League City as well, just right

(23:34):
kind of fifteen minutes away. Elcubinocigars dot com, Lcoubanocigars dot com.
You got four weeks to be ready for dove season.
That means you need to, if you haven't already, go
to American Shooting Centers and bust some targets. Start out
maybe with a round of trapper ski to kind of
get you loose a little bit, probably skeet a little

(23:55):
better for dove honey, and then move over to one
of the sporting place courses. They have three of them
out there. Get yourself dialed in shoot quality AMO. We
talked about that yesterday. They've got plenty of it at
American Shooting Center for you, and it's a very easy,
very simple, user friendly system. Everything from five to six
hundred yards for rifle and pistol. They've got at twenty

(24:18):
five yards. They've got a place where you can hang
paper and pattern your shotgun. They've got a beginner's wing
shooting area, five stands, setups all over the place, and
just plenty of instruction. If you still, if you're doing
your best and you're not hitting a lot of targets,
go ahead and get some lessons. You'll save money in
the long run. Trust me. American Shooting Centers are on

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West Timer Parkway between Katie and Highway six. American Shooting
Centers dot com. Hi, welcome back. Eight thirty four on
Sports Talk seven to ninety has promised I got a
guy on the phone that I want to get on
the phone right now because we're on a short, short
lease today. Cameron Plugg, how you doing man, Hey.

Speaker 8 (24:56):
Doug, Good morning man.

Speaker 6 (24:57):
I'm doing great, running on, running on on coffee and breakfast.

Speaker 1 (25:01):
Talk to those man, I'm doing fine. I Cam and
Plugg For those of you who don't know, is probably
the only man on the planet who can lay claim
to what you what you've done man, young guy too,
so no telling what's next for the son of an
old friend of mine. Welcome Cam. I heard lots of
people over the past two days talking about what happened

(25:22):
to you and your crew out there pre fishing for
the tiff. But the Texas International Fishing Tournament for those
who don't know, why don't you walk us through that day?

Speaker 6 (25:33):
Well, we just we just wrapped up with the tournament,
and uh, yeah, man, these these these Texas tournaments are
extremely competitive, Doug. There's there's thirty or forty of the
best fishing teams on the coast all of Texas.

Speaker 8 (25:46):
And U and everybody is grinding have.

Speaker 6 (25:49):
Great teams, and uh, it's a very very competitive field.
So to be able to be in the mix and
fishing against these guys is like fishing against James Blog
and a trout tournament. You know, it's it's a it's
a big competition. So, uh, everybody goes out there. Everybody
goes out there and practices. You know, the more time

(26:10):
you spend on the water, the better you're, the more
dialed in you are, the better your crew operates, the
more water you cover and the more things you see
and and it helps to stay on and.

Speaker 2 (26:23):
Pattern the fish.

Speaker 8 (26:24):
So you know, the guy that we worked for, mister Rodd.

Speaker 6 (26:27):
He's uh, he's all about go, go, go, and we
were able to make it out there and fish Tuesday
and Wednesday before the tournament. We left on Thursday, and uh,
you know, you never know what you're going to see
out there, and that's what I love about fishing and
all shore fishing.

Speaker 8 (26:44):
So much, you know.

Speaker 6 (26:45):
And uh on on Wednesday, we uh we started out
in an area that we all agreed on that would
be you know, hopefully productive and uh man we uh
we caught a blue marlin, you know, about eight thirty,
which was great. Took us a little while to catch
it because it was a you know, two hundred and
fifty three hundred pound fish.

Speaker 1 (27:05):
Yeah, just a teen, just a nasty teen.

Speaker 2 (27:08):
So we we landed a blue marlin.

Speaker 6 (27:10):
We put the stuff back out, but we we landed
a white marlin pretty soon after that.

Speaker 8 (27:15):
We called a white marlin white right in the same spot.

Speaker 2 (27:18):
And uh then we went for a long time and
didn't catch anything.

Speaker 6 (27:21):
The bike kind of slowed down, the bait kind of
went away, and we picked up and made a.

Speaker 8 (27:25):
Little move and uh we had.

Speaker 6 (27:28):
Had two bites at once, what you know, trolling Valley
Who's and you know, natural Bay with circle hooks, and uh.

Speaker 8 (27:36):
Boom, we caught a sailfish sweet.

Speaker 6 (27:38):
So everybody's really everybody's excited because you know, when you
catch three different species of billfish in the same days,
that's you've caught a grand slam. That's that's pretty that's
pretty grand and and and then so that's big time.
And you know, as funny as it is, we're trolling
around same area and uh, and we're joking about like,

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hey man, they were catching these spearfish out here in
the gulf and it's and we're joking like.

Speaker 2 (28:06):
Man, you know they do. They're they're out here.

Speaker 6 (28:08):
You know, they're they're pretty rare, but you know, spearfish
are they're out there, you know, especially this time of
the year when all these they all all the billfish
kind of moved together. You know, the seems like the
marlin or at the head of the school or the
tail of the school, and then the sales kind of straggle,
you know, in between the groups of marlin and.

Speaker 1 (28:28):
Uh, unicorns. It's a it's a unicorn.

Speaker 8 (28:35):
It really is. And I've never been So we're trolling.

Speaker 6 (28:38):
All of a sudden, boom, we get a we get
a bite.

Speaker 8 (28:41):
And it was a very peculiar bite.

Speaker 6 (28:43):
It hit it hit one line and then it it
We didn't have it hooked up, and then it darted
to the other side of the of the boat.

Speaker 8 (28:52):
And I was looking back and I said, that's it.

Speaker 2 (28:54):
That's a billfish.

Speaker 6 (28:55):
And then boom, one of our anglers gets gets the
bite and he's tight. And no, the fish never jumped
or anything. So now we're backing down, Burr, We're backing
down and uh. And and we get close to it
and it does a little headshake. While I'm yelling down
from the bridge, I'm like, man, I think that's a spearfish.

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And and and and and you know, people have been
this season. There's been a lot of juvenile white marlin.

Speaker 2 (29:24):
Yeah, been caught ball you know.

Speaker 1 (29:26):
Yeah.

Speaker 6 (29:27):
And and this this fish, this unicorn, it just looked different.
It had very defined stripes and had a very unique
dorsal fin. The the the bill itself was very short
and uh. And I told my mate, I said, don't
break it off, don't break it off.

Speaker 2 (29:45):
Let's get a good look at it.

Speaker 8 (29:47):
And we wired it up to the boat and.

Speaker 6 (29:50):
Uh, it was very it was hard to tell, Doug,
you know, you don't really know.

Speaker 2 (29:54):
And I told my mate, I said, reach you on there,
and pick it up and bring it in the boat.

Speaker 6 (29:59):
And so over grabbed the little bill and pulled the
fish in the boat and we were all just kind
of shocked because it looked like nothing that we have
ever caught.

Speaker 2 (30:08):
And uh and and it was.

Speaker 6 (30:10):
It was a long bill atlantic spearfish. And we got
very good pictures and documentation of all the catches this
day and the marlin. We got videos of everything. And
what was cool was is we we tagged the little
spearfish and we took some really really good pictures and

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got all the angles, and we put it back in
the water and she's he swam, he swam off, you know,
which was which was a feat?

Speaker 8 (30:40):
You know?

Speaker 2 (30:41):
So now we've done.

Speaker 8 (30:42):
Caught a super slam what they call that.

Speaker 6 (30:47):
So a super slam you get forced speeches of bill
fish in the same day. And really and truly, there's
only a handful of places in the world that have
that the the capability of having a super slam, yeah, everywhere,
and then you know, a black marlin.

Speaker 1 (31:04):
Would be considered.

Speaker 6 (31:05):
But there's only a few places where you can get
a blue black.

Speaker 8 (31:08):
Sale, right, That's a few places.

Speaker 6 (31:12):
So now we're all scratching our head, going, well, What
do we do now, you know, do we keep fishing
here in the same area, or do we go try
to fish for a sword fish the.

Speaker 1 (31:23):
Other one, the last unicorn. Hey, do me a favor.
Let's leave them hanging right here right now, and we'll
come back and we'll let them know what happened. Okay,
stand by, Yes, let me put you on hold. Got
that cam's on hold. We'll finish the story when we
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(32:53):
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As a guy who guided waterfowl hunts for fourteen years,
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Goodbye music, Let's go, man, I got I got bigger
names on the other line. I don't want to hear
that music. Hey Cam, we're back.

Speaker 8 (34:07):
Man, Hey Doug, thanks for having me on here.

Speaker 2 (34:10):
Man.

Speaker 1 (34:10):
Yeah, Cameron plog here with us. So we left him
wondering whether or not you were going to catch a
swordfish with the cats out of the bag. Talk about that, man.

Speaker 2 (34:21):
Well yeah, we left them biting.

Speaker 1 (34:23):
Man.

Speaker 2 (34:23):
Well so we we we so now and.

Speaker 6 (34:27):
You know, people are fishing for swordfish in the daytime
now it's not just the nighttime thing.

Speaker 2 (34:31):
So you can you can drop a.

Speaker 6 (34:33):
Bait down all the way to the bottom and fifteen
hundred and sixteen hundred foot and and and have a
chance at catching.

Speaker 2 (34:39):
A sword fish.

Speaker 1 (34:40):
Yeah, buddy.

Speaker 2 (34:41):
And so so we.

Speaker 6 (34:42):
Had our we had our Grand Slam, and then we
caught a spearfish and we had our our Super Slam.
And the last thing to do was go try for
a swordfish.

Speaker 2 (34:51):
And uh, it just kind of crazy, you know, so
why not do some judge? Why not? Right, So we
had to we had to unspoil one.

Speaker 6 (34:58):
Of our reels and respool it with a braided line,
because that's how you get down. You don't have that
stretch when you're when you're down dropping down deep. So
we we we top shoted one of our Talica fifties
with a braided.

Speaker 8 (35:12):
Line from our our deep drop reel.

Speaker 6 (35:14):
Right, and because to make it all like kind of official,
you got to catch it on a on a rod
and reel. You can't use an electric so damn. You know,
it took us about twenty minutes to get all rigged up,
and we we ran over to another spot where there's
you know, uh been known to have sword fish, and
all right, boom, we put our bait down and we
made a big, huge, long.

Speaker 8 (35:35):
Drift and nothing we got we got we.

Speaker 6 (35:38):
Got, we didn't get one, and and it's kind of like, oh,
everybody's kind of biting their biting their nails, like oh man,
And so we reeled up, you know, we had to
reel the reel up from fifteen hundred feet by hand
with no fish, reel it on up.

Speaker 8 (35:50):
And then and then re set up and get, you know.

Speaker 6 (35:53):
Make another drift, and we set back up, put the
bait down, and we drifted for.

Speaker 2 (35:59):
About five minutes.

Speaker 6 (36:00):
And at this time, I'm biting my nails, you know,
I don't know, I'm just thinking, okay, well, you know,
if it's meant to be, it's meant to be, you know,
send me a little prayer to up there on the bridge.
And about that time my mate said, there he is,
and the and the rod shook and he dropped back
and he started to crank really fast to try to

(36:20):
get tight. And everybody's saying pull ahead, pull ahead, because
that kind of helps set the hook. When you go forward,
that gets the slack out of the line, and.

Speaker 2 (36:30):
We're tight to a swordfish.

Speaker 1 (36:32):
Now, wow, we got him. We got him on the
talic of fifteen. And my boss's son he he's on.

Speaker 6 (36:39):
The rod and he's cranking, cranking, cranking, and we we're tight.

Speaker 2 (36:43):
We stay on and here here he.

Speaker 6 (36:46):
We fought it for about fifteen minutes and we're reeling cranking, cranking, cranking,
and okay, here comes the cannon ball.

Speaker 8 (36:53):
Lads attack to the line.

Speaker 6 (36:56):
So my mate reaches out there and gloom, he unclips
the line. The swordfish does some head shaking, he comes
and he jumps right by the boat and then all
of a sudden, whooh, he takes a bunch of line
and he takes us back down to four five hundred feet.

Speaker 1 (37:12):
Yeah, he's not dragging that cannonball anymore.

Speaker 2 (37:17):
Now he's just the rod.

Speaker 8 (37:19):
No no extra way.

Speaker 2 (37:20):
And I'm going, man, why didn't you guys gaff it?
And like we couldn't gaff it. It was jumping in the air.

Speaker 6 (37:25):
I said, I know, I know, I know, and uh
and okay, so battle was back on and uh, my
our anguler fought the fish, got him back up, did
a real good job.

Speaker 8 (37:35):
Of staying tight.

Speaker 6 (37:36):
And they're they're really pretty fish, doug and really the
sword fish is you know, you can go like target
them like okay, I'm want to go sword fishing. And
that was I guess we saved the most targetable for last,
and which was not not intentional, but it just happened
to be that way, which is why I think it

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worked out the way that it did. And here comes
the fish. He's fall purple and lit up and boom.
We stick a couple of gaps in him and slide
him on in the boat and before we can even
get the transom door closed, I'm on plane heading back
to Porto Rico. Yeah, buddy, And to make it even
you know, it was a flat, calm ride home, and

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we made it in at eight point thirty, right before
the sun went down, to complete a documented fantasy slam.

Speaker 1 (38:30):
Okay, I got a better name for it than that.
I'm telling you, I've been thinking about this. Are you ready?

Speaker 2 (38:35):
What do you think?

Speaker 1 (38:36):
Henceforth throughout the land and somebody's gonna pick this up
and we're gonna run with it. It's gonna be the
cam Slam? Are you kidding me? The cam Slam?

Speaker 3 (38:45):
Yeah?

Speaker 1 (38:45):
The CA Who else would get one but the guy
who was also on the boat for the blue fin
tunea state record. Who else would get one? Also on
the boat for the previous but nonetheless blue marlin record
in the state of Texas. Man you are you got
a basket full of rabbits feed and four leaf clovers
in your pocket?

Speaker 2 (39:05):
Or what? Man?

Speaker 6 (39:07):
They said, I am pretty superstitious when it comes to
you know, I wear I wear my lucky shorts during tournament.
Sure got all kind of little voodoo and and who
doo that we pull out throughout the day on a
on a slow day to try to bring the luck.

Speaker 1 (39:22):
Man, you know, let me let me. I don't mean
to interrupt you, but I gotta tell you this. I
don't want to run out of time here. There's a
lot of luck, a little luck involved in this stuff,
but it takes a lot of skill to be in
the right spot at the right time and pull off
stuff like this. And it's it's no coincidence really that
that you were on all three of those boats that
parts all you. Man, you you wouldn't have been there

(39:43):
if you weren't one of the top guys in the business.
And that's testament to your hard work, to your dedication
and probably a lot of listening to your dad when
you were a kid. I would bet too, Huh.

Speaker 6 (39:54):
Man, it's the the work ethic, Doug that my dad
instilled in me as a young man, and pat and
passion for fishing. Uh, that's what drives me, is the
is I love to fish and I like to.

Speaker 2 (40:08):
Be successful, you know.

Speaker 6 (40:10):
And it's not it's not always a guarantee and and
and sport fishing.

Speaker 2 (40:15):
It's a team effort.

Speaker 3 (40:16):
Man.

Speaker 6 (40:16):
This is not you know, wade fishing. You're out there,
you're kind of by yourself, you're casting. But I have
to give a lot of credit to the boss and
the team because everybody played a major role in in
in this particular day, everybody caught fish. Uh, everybody was
on their their best game.

Speaker 9 (40:37):
Uh.

Speaker 2 (40:38):
My crew did everything right. We didn't lose any fish.

Speaker 6 (40:42):
We caught one of everything.

Speaker 1 (40:44):
It's not like we have a lot of.

Speaker 6 (40:46):
Extra bites and and and and and I think that's
that's that's the biggest thing.

Speaker 2 (40:51):
You can be lucky.

Speaker 6 (40:52):
I mean, a little luck goes a long way, But
your preparation and and the effort that you put into
every day, each and every single day is what drives
the results.

Speaker 1 (41:04):
You know, who's lucky?

Speaker 2 (41:05):
You know?

Speaker 1 (41:05):
Who's lucky is the people who are able to get
you on their boats. My friend, that lucky.

Speaker 2 (41:12):
I'm lucky to be uh, it's lucky to be lucky.

Speaker 6 (41:15):
And I'm blessed to be uh uh desirable crew. You know,
we're all gonna work hard and try our best every
given day. And I wish we could have got a
win in this tournament, but you know we kind of
it just caused, that's for sure, you know, But in

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decision making, you know, there's a lot of decisions that
have to be made.

Speaker 8 (41:43):
Throughout the day, and you know, do you.

Speaker 2 (41:45):
Zig when you should have zagged?

Speaker 6 (41:47):
And I think this this tournament, I I I made
a run and I should.

Speaker 8 (41:50):
Have ran the other way, And that's that's on me.

Speaker 2 (41:53):
You know, that was a.

Speaker 1 (41:53):
Second guess yourself, man, No, you you you made the
right choice at the right time and in hindsight, learn something.
So there's nothing wrong with that.

Speaker 2 (42:02):
That's right.

Speaker 6 (42:03):
And we're gonna keep going and we're not gonna stop
until we get this stuff really really dialed in.

Speaker 2 (42:07):
And and you know, we're looking for a big podium
finish hopefully.

Speaker 6 (42:11):
And then in one of the tournaments, the last couple
of tournaments here in the summer.

Speaker 2 (42:15):
So what's next, summer?

Speaker 1 (42:16):
What's next?

Speaker 2 (42:18):
Uh?

Speaker 6 (42:18):
This this following weekend coming up in Port Ransas is
the Texas Legends Bill. Yeah, that's another another good one.
It brings a lot of people to Port Rams and
all the a lot of the same teams will be
fishing and it's gonna be a battle baby. All right, Well,
God knows what you're gonna do next two weeks from now,

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who knows, camp. We're gonna keep fishing and try to
stay on them.

Speaker 1 (42:43):
Do something cool, man, let me know we will.

Speaker 2 (42:46):
We will.

Speaker 6 (42:47):
Hey, I got to talk to you to morning this morning.

Speaker 2 (42:49):
That's pretty cool to me.

Speaker 1 (42:50):
Well, thank you. I appreciate that. I appreciate your time. Man,
catch them up. We'll see you.

Speaker 6 (42:54):
Thanks, thank you very much, Doug, thanks pleasure. Yes, sir,
I bless everybody.

Speaker 2 (42:59):
Now.

Speaker 1 (42:59):
Yeah, that's a good dude right there. Raised well work ethic.
You heard him mention that, and I can see I
can see James getting on Cameron when he was young
and making sure he was doing things the right way
the first time. And that's why James blog has been
as successful as he has in this business. It's not
easy charter fishing of any kind is not easy. And

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what Cam's doing when you've got an entire crew of
guys underneath you working. Everybody has a job. And I'll
tell you a little secret. If you ever get invited
to go on and do an offshore tournament and you're
not twenty five or twenty eight years old and been
working out all your life, if somebody turns around and
kind of looks around says, who wants to be the

(43:44):
official designated angler for this tournament? Which means basically, if
you spend five or six hours in a chair, maybe
you see your name written on a chalkboard next to
the way to the fish. When you come in, just
say no, I'll do it. I'll do something else. I'll
work the chair. Say I'll work the chair. And then

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you get to stand behind the guy who's huffing and
puffing in his arms don't even work anymore. He could
barely turn the handle. I've been in both spots, and
as a as a senior. Now the chair is way
easier that grinding on big fish is a young man's game.
I promise you it's a young man's game. Let's take

(44:27):
a break at the top of the hour. We're gonna
be boy. We're gonna be squeezed for time. We got
thirty minutes till Astro's pregame, and I want to make
sure we get everything in there that we need to
on the way out here. Timber Creek Golf Club down
there on FM twenty three fifty one in friends would
twenty seven holes of a great variety of holes too,
and all of them very playable. It's a very It's

(44:49):
not an easy course. No golf course is easy, but
it's it's comfortable, it's welcoming. Now there's a couple of
places where it'll it'll got you a little bit if
you're not paying attention. But if you look from the
tea box and just kind of get an idea where
you're supposed to hit the ball, and you can get
it anywhere near there, you're gonna have a good approach
and maybe get a couple of puts. At apar Timber

(45:11):
Creek Golf Club dot com is a website. There is
a great teaching staff run by JJ Woods. It's just
next to the driving ring, driving range, big enough to
put on big tournaments, but very easy to get onto too.
If you want to go make three new friends, just
grab your clubs. Go over there and say, put me
out with the next threesome that's going out, and we'll

(45:32):
see who they are and what they do. Timber Creek
Golf Club dot Com is a website you can make
a tea time for yourself right there, right now, Timbercreek
Golf Club dot Com. All right, second and final, well
this is going to be the half hour since we
have to check out for Astro's pregame. But we'll get there.
And by the way, before I take Aaron's call, a

(45:53):
quick reminder that if you're looking for AMMO for shotgunning,
you got your dove season coming up, you want to
go shoot some targets before that. I talked to Jerry
TK yesterday as a matter of fact, and he has
got he has got a He had a truckload is
what he called it. A truckload of shot shells came
in recently from rio Itich is one of the best

(46:14):
brands out there. And he's got all the he's got
all the rifle am two and all the guns and
AMMO and hunting stuff and CAMO and reloading supplies, as
he's always had and as I've always admired about Shooter's
Corner down there at Texas City Palmer Highway at twenty
ninth Street. I've always admired that he gives a discount
to anybody who wears a badge for a living. That's

(46:36):
kind of a special thing and he's been doing it
for forty years. Great community guy. He donates to all
kinds of causes down there. Just had the friends of
NRA deal recently, and yeah, just go check them out
the shooters cornertx dot com. Simple as that. Well, let's
go see what's on Aaron's mind. What's up, Aaron? Hey,

(46:58):
I'm okay. I just I'm disappointed that I get a
thirty minute early dismissal because I had so much to
talk about this morning. Aaron, where did he go? Call
me back here? And I can't hear you. We'll see
if we can get him back on the line. Let's
take a quick look at the Windham Championship on going

(47:20):
over there in the CARO line?

Speaker 2 (47:22):
Is that?

Speaker 1 (47:22):
I think it's Sedgefield Maybe, I'm pretty sure it's Sedgefield
Golf Club. I don't know where Aaron's driving around. He
was driving somewhere yesterday and texted me a couple of times.
Hopefully he can get a better connection than where he is.
Cam Young. As if you wouldn't have known what this
is a Cam day, I guess huh, Cam plogged then
Cam Young. Cameron Young twenty underpar through three rounds of competition.

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This is and he's positioned himself very well. He actually
took a little slip yesterday he only shot sixty five,
but nobody really made up a lot of ground on him.
He's got a a five shot lead over Nico et Chavaria.
Then the closest after that at twelve under par Chris Kirk,

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Aaron Raye, mac Meisner, and that's hitting in Jackson Coven
at eleven, Matt Fitzpatrick and Davis Thompson at ten. This
is Cameron Young's chance. This is it right here. This
is his best shot he's gonna have, probably for a
long time at hoisting a trophy. A five shot lead

(48:29):
going into the last round on a track he's very
comfortable with rounds of sixty three, sixty two, sixty five.
You would expect at some point one of those rounds
might have the second or third round might have been
the correction round. And he had a couple of little
hiccups yesterday, and he missed some putts. Actually, if he'd

(48:49):
have been putting the like he was the other day,
who knows what he would have done. Aaron's having a
hard time getting that call to stick, isn't he I
don't know where he is or what he's doing. Take
a take a five minute break, Aaron, then call back
and see what happens. Then maybe the phone will work better.
I don't know. He's in Louisiana, I think it says
san Antoni. Oh, maybe we'll get him this time. Hang on,

(49:13):
put him on hold and I'll try to pop him up.
Let's try again, aren't you there?

Speaker 2 (49:18):
Uh?

Speaker 9 (49:18):
Yeah, sorry, I sent a little value out here. Montgomery Nowovery, Atlanta.

Speaker 1 (49:25):
Oh holy col So what's going on?

Speaker 2 (49:27):
How do I follow up that? That Colt?

Speaker 1 (49:29):
Yeah? This guy, he's the luckiest guy. I'll tell you what.
And it's hard work. I mean I've been I did
a lot of bill fishing and fished quite a few
tournaments years and years ago when I was a much
younger man, And it is definitely hard work. I guarantee
you it is so uh. But he's the right guy
to have at the controls. I guarantee you. He knows

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what he's doing, he learned from the best, he's been
doing it all his life, and now he's getting the
reward for that. He's captaining a very good, very competitive boat.
And that's a lot of fun.

Speaker 9 (50:02):
Well, I hold out hope I get to do it
once forty eight put up still for a living.

Speaker 2 (50:06):
I think I got maybe more than me. Yeah.

Speaker 1 (50:09):
Hey, everybody should catch one blue marlin. And you've probably
heard me talk about it, but years ago for the
newspaper I wrote it is if you can't go catch
a blue marlin, here's what you can do to get
a feel for what it's like. You get one of
those big, big rods and reels a suitable blue marlin setup,
and you get yourself a lawn chair, and you get
yourself a big grappling hook, and you tie that grappling

(50:32):
hook to the end of that line and you peel
off about fifteen twenty yards a line, and then you
go sit next to the right lane on I ten
and when there's a grappl truck coming by, you throw
that hook in front of the truck and then you
hold on to the rod. And that's what it's like.

Speaker 9 (50:53):
And I'm not kidding, well, I've got a tourist slam,
a hard headed.

Speaker 1 (51:01):
Piggy perch and the needles the trash can slam.

Speaker 9 (51:06):
Oh h, I imagine any things, or you guys catching
more fish up there up in the all secular with
the port ramsas I keep seeing pictures and hear stories
and it's just one up there, I'm go to waters.

Speaker 1 (51:20):
Yeah, you know, you gotta be kind of careful with
what you see on the Internet because there's no date
stamps on these pictures. You gotta be careful. Some of
these guides who who are unscrupulous, and there are those
that walk among the good guys, will take a couple
of old pictures throw them up there. Yeah, look at
what we called yesterday, look at what we call last week,

(51:42):
look at what we're look at what we're gonna catch tomorrow.
They might as well do that, you know. And so
you gotta be kind of careful and take a lot
of that Internet stuff with a grain of salt. They
never show you where they called them. As always. You know,
there's some they this whole deal about using the little
uh screen wipe of color to block out the shorelines

(52:05):
and all that. Nobody cares where you're fishing, you know,
and if you caught them there today, you probably won't
catch them there tomorrow. They'll move or at least a
little bit. So I don't know why these guys are
so secret, and the only reason I can think of
is that they don't have very many spots. You know,
somebody like James, James Flogg, Micky Eastman, Darryl Skillern Blaine,

(52:26):
Friar Mood, all the young guys. There's a ton of
young guys I could name sharky guys like that. They
have so many places they can go take you to
go fishing on a charter trip that they don't post
wherever it was. It doesn't matter. One more boat where
they are is not gonna make much difference. People follow
them around every day.

Speaker 9 (52:45):
Yeah, I had, I had Farah, Joey showed me a
couple of places Rock and Wade.

Speaker 2 (52:49):
Yeah, when I was on this boat, those are my
go to spots.

Speaker 9 (52:53):
But it just seems like I've been seeing a lot
of a lot of hot action sports up there your
neck of the woods.

Speaker 1 (53:00):
Yeah, it's it's slowed down a little bit up here
over this past week, but a lot of that was
because of so much wind. The wind's gone now. And
you know, I don't want to jinx anything, but if
we can, if we can get some nice settled weather
pattern through here and just get that water, give that
good clean golf gulf water a chance to push up

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through the system for three or four or five tide
changes and get the bays looking better, get everything looking better.
It's it's gonna kick back off. It's not gonna stay
slow for long, that's for sure.

Speaker 9 (53:34):
Well, I'm putting in my order right now, changing seven
right days when I come back, right responsible.

Speaker 1 (53:41):
Yeah, come back through here, man. Maybe we can meet
up down there somewhere.

Speaker 9 (53:45):
I'll give you a y'all.

Speaker 1 (53:48):
All right, but it's great to hear from here. Yes,
sir audios. That guy's always driving, man, he's always going
to a job. He's a he's a busy, hard working guy.
One blue Marlin. That's all you need. And at his
age and older, that's probably all you'll want. You'll be satisfied.

(54:10):
The very shortest version of the story of my first
was with a guy named Mike Canino. The name of
the boat was Abracadabra forty eight. I think post out
of Galveston Yacht basin. We're out there and we're having
a blast. He's an interesting guy, owned like a farmer's

(54:30):
market and made a lot of money off vegetables, I
guarantee you, and did very well for himself. Loved offshore fishing.
And we're out there, dragon baits, dragon jigs, and it's
about two thirty three o'clock in the afternoon. Nobody's in
the back but me. I'm just I'm wide eyed and
wide awake. Boy, this is the first really big time
marlin trip I'd ever been on. And about two thirty

(54:53):
three o'clock he's up there driving. Everybody else is asleep,
and bam, a rod goes off off and I grab
it and I jump into the chair and I sit down,
and Mike sees that we're tight, and he accelerates to
get that hook. That real good for us. And out
of the corner of my eye, probably a quarter mile

(55:14):
to the starboard side of the boat, looking aft, it's
a starboard side either way, I see this marlin come
up jumping, and I holler up to Mike. Look, there's
another fish way out there jumping around because my line's
going straight out the back of the boat. And that's
where I think that fish is because every time I've
caught a speckle trail or a red fish up to

(55:36):
the n or at kingfish or whatever, if the line's
straight out the back of the boat, that's where the
fish is. He goes, Oh, No, that's your fish. And
I look down at this reel, which is the size
of a coffee can, and the spool is more than
half empty already, and it dawned on me not only
that that was my fish way out there jumping, but

(55:58):
that I was going to have to reel in every
inch of that line a quarter mile easy. I'm just okay. Well,
fast forward about two and a half hours later, we've
we've gotten the fish closed a couple of times, and
then it takes off again. And just like Cam was
talking about, this fish was the one they caught the
other day to start the quest for the Slam. About

(56:22):
two fifty or so somewhere in there, those, like I said,
were the teenagers. They're they're they're not little bitty fish,
but they're not big giant fish either. And those are
the ones that are full of adrenaline or whatever it is.
It motivates them to swim faster and farther. They are
strong and they don't give up. And this fish just

(56:43):
beat me to an absolute bloody pulp. And by the
time I finally got it to the boat, we got
a tag in it. We did everything we wanted to do.
I didn't want to kill the fish, there was no
reason to do that, but I was just absolutely whipped.
I had no experience, by the way, doing that. And
I'm getting instructions barked at me from people who already

(57:04):
know what they're doing, very politely. They're not yelling at
me or angry with me. They're just saying, Okay, do
this to help keep your back, Okay, do this to
save your arms, do this all this stuff. And it's
just going in and in one ear and out of
the other because I've never done this before. I've never
had anything on a rod and reel pull that hard,
even big amberjack. I mean it makes an amberjack look

(57:25):
like a bluegill. And so finally we get the fish
taken care of it. It's gone, and Mike goes into
the salon, comes out with a bottle of champagne. First Marlin,
we're gonna celebrate, and he hands me that bottle and
I grab it by the neck, and my right hand
and my right forearm were so weakened at that point

(57:46):
that if I hadn't run my left hand up under
that bottle immediately, it would have fallen to the deck
of the boat. I could not hold up a champagne bottle.
I was spent. I was a young guy too. I
was young, felt like I pretty strong, and that fish
just whip my butt, no question about it. And I
encourage everybody to do that at least once in their lives. Frankie,

(58:08):
at some point in your life, you need to catch
one blue marlin. Yeah, and if you want to wimp out,
go over to Mexico, go over to the West coast
and catch a stripe marlin, because they get hundred and
fifty pounds. Maybe maybe a big one might be one
eighty close to two hundred. But they don't fight like
a blue marlin. They're not as big and they're not
as bad blue marlin though. Yeah, that's good stuff. And

(58:31):
if you want to, really, if you want to catch
a lot of billfish and tell your friends you've caught
a bunch of them, go down to Cozamela in the
spring and you can catch them on basically heavy trout tackle. No,
they're a little Atlantic sailfish are pretty small. They're pretty small.
They don't they're not going to beat you up at all.
But they're fun. They're very cool fish. All right, I
got to shut up. Don't a champions tree preservation. This

(58:53):
is one more time I'm telling you. This is where
you need to go to, not where you need to go.
They'll come to you. They'll say, an arbist to your house,
check your trees out, make sure they're ready for storm season,
which we're smacking the middle of where we're coming to
the peak of what happens, which is like late August
into September, and then maybe after that it'll start winding down.

(59:14):
But we got to keep our eyes open and first
things first, get your trees checked out to make sure
they're going to make it through a storm. If they
don't need any help, that's what the arburst is going
to tell you. Thank you for your for your business,
and they'll come back and check you out again later
if there is something that needs to be done, they'll
help you get it done in a timely manner and
in a very professional manner. They own all the tools

(59:35):
they need to do anything from feeding to taking out
a whole tree. And if they do have to take
out a whole tree, they own a tree farm. They'll
bring you in a new one to put in the hole.
Championstree dot com. Go to the website, take a look
around championstree dot com, or give them a call one time,
very quickly, well very slowly, so you get it. Two
eight one three two zero eight two zero one Champions Tree.

(01:00:01):
I guess there's really no such thing as a bad
day for golf. So let me just suggest perhaps if
you're up on the northwest side of town black Horse
Golf Club, two great courses up there. Go take two
ninety to Fry Road, hang a south, go down a
few miles and then you'll see the gate on the right.
That's a west turn off of Fry Road or an
eat Well, it's still a west turn, whether if you're

(01:00:21):
coming from the south from down around Katie Way. Either way.
Once you get in there, everybody's got a name tag on.
It's going to be trying to help you have a
better time. Then you can possibly imagine that North course
still all full daily fee and you can make your
own tea time going to the website. South Course went
private this year and they're doing a fantastic job of

(01:00:42):
taking care of all the members who are joining that club.
There's one membership option that gets you actually get you
access to five courses, and you get both the courses
at black Horse, you get both the courses at Golf
Club of Houston, and you get Blackhawk Country Club down
in Richmond, which is where I play mostly. Blackhorse Golf

(01:01:03):
Club dot Com. Go up there, take a look around.
If you run into Craig Hicks, he's the general manager.
If you run into him, first of all, tell him
I said hello, and second of all, ask him to
tell you a fish story. He loves to fish, he
loves to hunt, a big outdoorsman like most of us.
Black Horse Golf Club dot com, black Horse Golf Club
dot com. All right, welcome back. Thanks a lot to

(01:01:24):
Cameron Plogg by the way, for jumping on and giving
us a few minutes of his time. He's got a
big boat to move down the coast, and I'm sure
two weeks from now, I'm hoping two weeks from now
we can get another phone call in and have some
more crazy good news from him. And I do want
that name for that thing. That's not a fantasy slam.
That's got to be a camslam, because I don't think

(01:01:46):
anybody in Texas is gonna do that again for a
very long time. You'd have to not only work at it,
you'd have to not only get super lucky. The stars
have to align all of that stuff to catch all
five bloom white marlin sailfish, long build swordfish or excuse me,

(01:02:07):
long build spearfish. I only know two other people. I
only know two other people who have caught spearfish. One
of them is Pam Basco, and she caught hers over
in Hawaii. She was over there doing line class records
for spearfish and caught several. Actually. And then my friend
Jeff Dickey, who owns a boat over out of I

(01:02:30):
think he's he might be a main island guy. I
don't remember where he keeps his boat. He's from here,
but he owned a boat over there, and I'm one
hundred percent sure he's caught some Over the years of
going back and forth, they charted that boat. I got
to fish off of it once. By the way, it
was a lot of fun. I was over there on
magazine assignment or no excuse me. It was a newspaper

(01:02:52):
story that I was trying to get. Actually, there'd been
some really big fish too, some like six hundred plus
pound fish, several of them caught the week before I
went over there, of course. And when we get there,
my wife and I went together and got in kind
of late, got up early the next morning, get on
the boat. I'm just dragging a little bit jet lagged
and tired and whatnot. And she was too, and we

(01:03:15):
we didn't get far out of the harbor before we
dropped the base back. It's just start dragging jigs around
around the island, basically wherever that captain was taking us.
And it wasn't. It wasn't. Forty five minutes. We got
a good bite. We caught a good fish, probably about
two hundred and two fifty. I wound it up. My
wife took some pictures of it with it from various

(01:03:38):
angles to document the thing. And I said, do you
think you got some pretty good ones? Yeah? She did,
So that worked out really well. And I looked at
her and she looked at me, and we were just
gassed from the trip over there. And I walked up,
I climbed up to the top, talked to the captain.
I said, you know what, you just got yourself a

(01:03:59):
day off, and he goes, what, you don't want a
fish anymore? I said, I can't. I'm just beat. I'm
absolutely beat. And we went back to the hotel, sat
around a pool, went back, took a nap, and went
and sat around a pool some more, then went and
got something to eat, and all turned out perfectly well.
Had a great story to tell. I had already talked
to that captain enough times on the phone, and then

(01:04:20):
while we were riding around getting getting ready to go
and then putting around waiting for the bite, to know
what I needed to know for that story, and got
some good anecdotal stuff from him that that was a
fun trip. The bottom drops off so dramatically around Hawaii
that you just don't have to go far to catch

(01:04:42):
big fish. It's just it just it's the islands themselves
are the tops of mountains, essentially underwater mountains, and it's
it's a steep drop off. A lot of those a
lot of those edges goes from not a lot of
feet to hundreds of feet of water and even more
than a thousand feet pretty quick. All right, Good heavens

(01:05:03):
We're darn near out of time, aren't we. Frankie almost
say you got a little bit more time. Oh my gosh.
All right, Well, I had all kinds of things I
wanted to talk to or excuse me, talk about. What
I'm gonna kind of wrap up with for this week
is just a reminder to try to stay safe out there.
This time of year. It can get brutally hot, brutally fast,

(01:05:23):
whether you're playing golf.

Speaker 2 (01:05:25):
Well.

Speaker 1 (01:05:25):
By the way, I got to play some with Tommy
O'Brien yesterday out at Blackhawk. I was actually I had
had to get a cart brought out because the one
I was in was out of juice, and one of
his daughters actually brought that cart out for me. And
then I see him turning the corner and he's got
his clubs on the back. And I ended up playing
the last one, two, three, four or five the last

(01:05:49):
five holes with Tommy and actually played pretty well. I
knew I was kind of he was watching every move
I made because he takes pretty good care of me
in my swing, and I had extra attention being paid.
Stay hydrated, Okay, man, it's hot this time of year.
Stay hydrated, whether you're fishing, whether you're getting ready for
dove season or deer season or duck season, whatever you're

(01:06:10):
doing outside, so that you can be back here next
week and we can do this all over again. Thank
you all for listening. Astro's coming up next on Sports
Talk seven to ninety. Get outside, stay safe, have some
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