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August 2, 2025 • 11 mins
Doug's insightful interview with Jerry Tkac, for your listening pleasure. Originally aired on August 2nd, 2025.
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Speaker 1 (00:00):
As promised.

Speaker 2 (00:01):
I've got one of the coolest people I've ever met
in my whole life on the phone right now, and
that's Jerry TK.

Speaker 1 (00:06):
I'm gonna get him on the phone. Jerry TK. What's
going on?

Speaker 3 (00:09):
Man? Oh oh, nothing much, Doug sitting down here in
South Texas watching these birds fly over.

Speaker 2 (00:17):
Oh did you get kind of get your trigger finger
a little bit itchy?

Speaker 3 (00:21):
Oh? Yeah?

Speaker 1 (00:24):
Yeah? So what county are you? What counties you're wrenching?

Speaker 3 (00:28):
Yeah? Do all? Oh?

Speaker 1 (00:29):
Okay, yeah, yeah, that's.

Speaker 2 (00:30):
A nice country right there, man, Holy cow, right in
the middle of it all, far enough away from the
river to not have to have too many worries, I guess.

Speaker 3 (00:38):
Huh no, No, the New Aces is a little bit
north of us here, but we got we're about ten
miles north of Freer. Yeah, okay, fifty nine.

Speaker 2 (00:50):
Oh, I know exactly where you are, man. Sounds like
a pretty place. So here's what I want to do.
By the way, did you get enough rain down there
to grin everything up like I've been?

Speaker 3 (01:01):
You know it? We had some real good, uh spring
rains in some early summer rains. But she's drying off now,
and which is normal in the South.

Speaker 1 (01:11):
That pop some seeds. So let's talk about dove hunting.

Speaker 2 (01:16):
Okay, we're four weeks out and people finally realizing how
little time that is store getting a little busier.

Speaker 3 (01:21):
Now. Yeah, the people are starting to get the you know,
they're starting to think about it. But you know, in
a way they kind of they also got fishing on
their mind, which that's a good thing. But I would
you know, you're going to be planning some dove hunts,
you know, especially if you're coming out of the Houston

(01:43):
area going south or north or which direction you're going
to go dub hunt. And I see it time and
time again. People take off, they go spend a bunch
of money, they go off duve hunting, and then their
gun get out there in the field and their old
trusty shotgun doesn't work. Yeah, they're out there, and uh,

(02:03):
my advice to people, you got four weeks away, get
that gun, get it cleaned up, you know, either take
it to your gun smith or something. Get it checked out,
especially on those old Remington eleven hundred where those old
rings go go bad. Yeah, and but you need to
be prepared because it's uh if you you know, if

(02:25):
you have a trip plan and you spend a bunch
of money getting to the place you're going and your
firearm doesn't work, and it's it's all or not, and
just get that thing checked out. And you know, another
thing is shoot good good shellsmen, that's on my list.

Speaker 1 (02:47):
Here, go ahead, preach preacher.

Speaker 3 (02:49):
Yeah. Too many times people they you know, they shot
you know, and I know it's uh. Shotgun shells have
gone up and since COVID and everything, But buy good shells. Yeah,
you know good. The best brand that I find is Reals. Yeah,
they're popular and they are one of the best shotgun

(03:13):
shells you can you can find it.

Speaker 2 (03:15):
Jerry, talk a little bit about antimony, because I bet
seven out of ten people listening right now don't even
know what that is and what it does for lead pellets.

Speaker 3 (03:24):
It's animony. Is a is a metal. It's a It's
a metal that's used to put into the lead to
harden it. Right. You know, if if you buy a
shotgun shells, some are just nothing but purelyd Okay, good

(03:45):
shotgun shells have between three and five percent animony. Now
your target loads more have they carry more of the
five percent animony? They don't want less deformation and most
hunting good hunting loads. They got three percent, and that's
keep the shot from deformation and gives you a good pattern,

(04:08):
you know, and take that old shotgun out and pattern it.

Speaker 1 (04:10):
Yeah, I'm not talking about that for here.

Speaker 3 (04:14):
You take your deer right out inside it in but
take that old smoke wagon after try that pattern that shotgun. Yeah.

Speaker 2 (04:21):
I talked to Edar Riggi last week about that and
found out that they have I think at twenty five
yards down like from five yards out to six hundred,
but at twenty five there's a place where you can
just go up there and strap up a piece of
butcher paper and see how many holes you can put
in it. And I can't impress, and I know you'll
agree with me how smart that is to just go

(04:43):
see what your shotgun shoots like with the different choke
tubes in it. And you can't really check different ranges there,
but you can see at twenty twenty five I think
it is. You can see the difference very clearly, see
the difference in patterns.

Speaker 3 (04:59):
Right, and be prepared sometimes when you go to hunting,
like right now we're seeing large flocks of white wings
coming over high. Yeah, pretty high. I like that, uh,
and uh it's past shooting. Yeah, and you need to
have you need to be choked to handle that, either
modified or improved modified, you know. And uh and then

(05:22):
of course if you're hunting over a water source like
a pond late and evening early in the morning, you know,
you leave a little more open, you know, go with
either improved solder or solder.

Speaker 1 (05:34):
And uh spraam out everywhere.

Speaker 3 (05:38):
Yeah.

Speaker 2 (05:39):
Here there was a place when I was when I
was waterfowl guiding and dove guiding in September, obviously out
there in Katie. There was a place that we found.
It was really close to town to have those giant
high lines where the you know, the main transmission lines
of the big tall towers, and they were these birds
were flying to and from roost and feed about ten

(06:00):
yards even higher than those And Old Eric Hilton and
I got out there full choked and leading these birds
about the length of a school bus and knocking them down.
It was hilarious, man, We had so much fun. That
was that's some tough shooting, man.

Speaker 3 (06:18):
Yeah, that's that's to me, you know, that's the lot.
That's the best part of Dovlin. I like, is that
pass shooting at those clocks like that. Oh yeah, man,
and so to I think it's going to be a
bannery year this year on dove. So that's what parts
a good.

Speaker 1 (06:34):
Yeah, parts and wallete department.

Speaker 2 (06:35):
Stead We've got like a record number of white wings
and something like I don't know, the thirty million mourning doves.
And they their word was excellent as far as predicting.

Speaker 1 (06:46):
What the season would be, so uh yeah.

Speaker 2 (06:48):
And now that that being said, you can still be
one fence line from where excellent meets nothing.

Speaker 1 (06:55):
It just happens. That's that way.

Speaker 2 (06:57):
That's kind of like fishing that way, but overall pretty
good looking. What what is your when when you dove
hunt anymore? What gun do you pull? What gauge do
you pull? And what what shot load do you put
in there?

Speaker 3 (07:12):
Well? I shoot an over under, I shoot a browning
over and under, okay, and uh generally I'll just shoot
you know, improved cylinder or or cylinder and until if
I see him flying high and then I'll change out
to a modified Yeah. And I like I like those

(07:32):
real Super Game seven and a half arson at eight
shots and they're running twelve eighty twelve hundred and eighty
feet a second if you get much over that you
get you'll start getting your shoulder beat up pretty good.
You know.

Speaker 1 (07:47):
That's a good point for over.

Speaker 3 (07:49):
Under for shooting over. Now, if you're shooting a semi auto, yeah,
a Burretta or a Bonelli, you know, it's not as bad.
You can you can get by that. But that's another thing.
Some of these semi autos on these uh low powered
double low powered shotgun shells.

Speaker 2 (08:07):
Oh wow, nope, Yeah, there's nothing and there's nothing you
can do in the field about that. If you've got
you've got shells that won't kick that kick that houle out,
then you're just stuck.

Speaker 1 (08:17):
You might as well just bring a sling shot, you know.

Speaker 3 (08:20):
Yeah, I mean we see this time again. Man might
come in there. My shotgun wan't cycle. What load you shoot? Well,
they're you know, one ounce, uh.

Speaker 1 (08:29):
These seven eighths al.

Speaker 3 (08:33):
Yeah, and uh, well you've gotten shoot a little heavier load,
little better shotgun shell.

Speaker 1 (08:38):
Yeah.

Speaker 3 (08:38):
Yeah, And it makes sense because you don't you know,
you don't want to come out here and burn up
a box for two birds.

Speaker 1 (08:47):
Yeah, you know, isn't that the truth?

Speaker 2 (08:49):
Hey, I got a question off of shotguns for a second,
just because I know, you got more experience than I do,
even hunting doves.

Speaker 3 (08:57):
Camo.

Speaker 2 (08:58):
How important is camo And is camo more important than
just being still when doves are flying?

Speaker 3 (09:06):
It's both you need to be camos and being steel.
You know, too many times to see people just standing out,
you know, but you know, standing out in the middle
of the field. Oh god, yeah, and that's you know,
that may work on early seasons, but when you as
you see it goes in, those birds get smart.

Speaker 1 (09:27):
Now. Yeah, but day two they figured it out. After
day one. We watch that every year, the birds.

Speaker 2 (09:33):
The first morning, the birds are flying three feet off
the ground, just right over the goat weed, just just
high enough not.

Speaker 1 (09:38):
To bump their bottoms on it, you know.

Speaker 2 (09:40):
And then by the second day they're up twenty five
thirty yards they know.

Speaker 3 (09:47):
Right, you know, And that's something too. You know, you
get food sources that they that's what Instead of planning,
I've went through it all, planning all kinds of exotics.
Se I just went and bought bought weed seeds from
a place up in brown Wood, Crowton, Yeah.

Speaker 1 (10:11):
And only came up. Yeah, that's incredible, man, only.

Speaker 3 (10:16):
Cow It's a natural you know, it's just natural feed.

Speaker 2 (10:19):
Yeah, that's that they're they're looking for that anyway, and
you just handed to him on a silver platter. What hey,
I want to do this again before Rifle season two
to talk a little bit about calibers and some of
the boutique calibers and whether you like.

Speaker 1 (10:34):
That and whatnot. So I'm going to tee you up
again in a week or two.

Speaker 2 (10:37):
Okay, give me a holler, all right, Yeah, I know
you want to get out on that ground of yours
and get off that front porch. Huh yeah, all right, Jerry, And.

Speaker 3 (10:50):
Well, good talking to you, yes, sir, Carl, sir, and
good luck to all these hunters out there. And uh,
I hope they can fill their bags.

Speaker 1 (11:01):
How many boxes?

Speaker 2 (11:02):
How many cases of Rio seven and a half you've
got in the store right now?

Speaker 3 (11:08):
I've got a truckload any other day, a couple of palletts.

Speaker 1 (11:11):
Oh lord.

Speaker 2 (11:13):
So yeah, I've probably shot a few pallettes of shells
in my time, but to think about truckloads of shells,
that's pretty impressive.

Speaker 1 (11:21):
Man.

Speaker 2 (11:22):
That's good though, because everybody who wants them is going
to get them, and they always do.

Speaker 1 (11:25):
From you, Jerry, thank you so much for your team.

Speaker 2 (11:27):
Man, yes, sirs, that's Jerry TK from down there at
Shooter's Corner. One of the nicest guys, one of the
most patient guys, and he just if you ever want
to have a good conversation about any kind of honey,
about any kind of gun related issue, just get him

(11:50):
on the phone or get down there to the store
and you'll learn as much or more in two minutes
as you knew when you got there.
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