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Astros Get Shut Out Losing 0-3 In Game 2 vs Pirates, Should Christian Walker Be Moved Down A Few Spots?
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Speaker 1 (00:01):
Ten oh one in eight Sound What's happening in Houston. Hello,
and welcome into a Thursday edition of The Matt Thomas
Show with Ross. I am the Ross part of it.
Matt Thomas is out. He will be back tomorrow, and
well we are going to still do the show without him.

(00:22):
We'll have a number of guests. We'll talk a lot
about a lot of great topics. We'll have Jonathan Allen
bring us the news at noon. We'll have Jonathan Allen
bring us the News at noon. Coming up. We'll also
have Brian McTaggart at eleven o'clock. Adam Clinton's gonna pop
in at one. Chris Gordy is already supposed to be here,
but he is a very high powered, important executive in iHeartMedia.

(00:46):
So he just literally as seconds before the show was starting,
he goes, Hey, I gotta take this call at some point.

Speaker 2 (00:53):
Call I'll bear it back. All right, So when will
Chris Gordy be here? I don't know. We'll figure it out.

Speaker 1 (00:58):
That means it's me and you until he gets here,
but you could always get in even with both of us.
Seven one three two one two five seven ninety is
the phone number seven to one three, two, one two
five seven ninety. And I don't feel responsible because I
didn't have anything to do it, but I do feel
a little bit guilty because we talked about it. Yesterday

(01:22):
with the Astros. They played in Game one of the
Pittsburgh series. They played Paulsey or win against Paul Skiings
on the mound. They were able to get a win, thankfully,
Christian Walker got a run off of him. Then Estoc
Paratus hit a two run shot for some insurance runs.
They were able to get the three nothing victory against
the Pittsburgh Pirates. And then it followed up with what

(01:46):
was on the mound for the Pittsburgh Pirates yesterday. His name, uh,
Mike Burrows. Mike Burrows came into the game with like
three major league appearances. He had had a couple of starts.
His era was eight point six' four and jokingly multiple times,
said oh, yeah that means he's about to throw six

(02:08):
shutout against The astros. Tonight and it wasn't six, shutout,
thankfully just five and a third. Shutout but two games
after getting or a game after getting back to back
shutouts for The, astros their bats could not do anything
And Ryan gusto unfortunately again could not go five, innings

(02:30):
so they lost the. Game this series is square with The,
pirates which is kind of where you thought you'd be
with one game and then one game Against Paul. Skeins
so it's not the end of the, world but it
continues to raise concerns about a couple of things with
The bats and With Ryan. Gusto and we talked With
Dana brown yesterday on The Sewn Salisbury show WHEN i

(02:52):
was helping out With Dan matthews about the, trademarket and
his answer was kind of diplomatic and the answer that
he's always gonna. Give, yeah we're always looking to improve. Pitching, yes, yes,
yes we look at. Pitching H we're never gonna leave
any stone, unturned all that type of. Stuff and it's, Like,
okay that's, Cool but It's june, fifth and deals for

(03:13):
pitchers normally don't happen, now and when they, do the
other team's gonna have a lot of leverage because they're
gonna know you're desperate for starting. Pitching so where do
we go from? HERE i don't. Know, Thankfully lance Mccullors
junior has turned in back to back quality Starts, gordy
but we have to wonder how Long Ryan gusto is
for this. Rotation you've still got aj blue ball in the.

(03:35):
Miners there's been some talk About Miguel uyola and how
he's pitched in the miners as.

Speaker 2 (03:40):
Well and how did you pronounce the? Name isn't It?
Yola is that? CORRECT i think you're. RIGHT i get.

Speaker 3 (03:46):
Confused Becauz lsu had a pitcher transfer pitcher last year
who Was Miguel. Uloa that's how he pronounced the same.
Name he just pronounced it with two.

Speaker 2 (03:55):
L'S i. Believe.

Speaker 1 (03:57):
So, now of, course if you remember Your spanish at
one oh, one two l's is a. Y for, Example Villa,
real Heyt Villa. Reale matthews gives The American he's, LIKE
i got Ross, villarreal and that's. FINE i don't know
how you just go like Full SPANISH tv reporter every

(04:18):
TIME i come in here and.

Speaker 3 (04:19):
Go Ross, Villeia, like, uh let's say. No the other
girl on a ON abc thirteen she, goes that's it
from the, courthouse. Guys daniel FROM abc, Thirteen i'm.

Speaker 1 (04:31):
Like wait a, minute yes, SEE i try not to
do that BECAUSE i don't even Speak spanish except for
WHAT i learned a little BIT i learned in high.
School SO i don't want to be like some fraud who's, like,
HELLO i am Extremely.

Speaker 2 (04:41):
SPANISH i am a Ross. Villarrial, anyways how's it going?
By how about Them? Texans how does your family say? It,
vieah we.

Speaker 1 (04:50):
Don't we all say it weird, too because we're All.
AMERICANIZED i, mean my family's been here for for multiple,
generations even just In, houston SO i long. TERM i
guess you would Call tehano long term family. Here we've
been here a. While we didn't we didn't cross the,
border the border across, us gotcha back, when back When
texas Was. Mexico i've read something about The. Almo what

(05:13):
about The. Alamo don't forget? It, okay well, remember don't.
Forget don't. Forget they got the ass, whipped they got.
MASSACRED i Saw Pee Wee's Big. ADVENTURE i know about The. Alamo,
okay that's. Good, Anyways so, yeah so, anyway.

Speaker 2 (05:32):
Uh, yeah IT'S i was just talking With dan and the.

Speaker 3 (05:35):
GUYS i, think man, like either either you're gonna trust
us to to go deeper into a, game or you
move him back to the, bullpen, LIKE i can't keep doing.
This it's not fair to tach your bullpen constantly when
he can't give you five.

Speaker 1 (05:48):
Innings, THANKFULLY i, mean the bullpen held it, down and,
hey if you're losing the, game you only got to
throw eight innings on the, Road so that's good news
for the. Bullpen but, Yeah Steve oker came, in he
got a double, play and then he through a clean,
inning and Then Brian King Bennett suosa cleaned everything. Up
so good news is the bullpen kind of kept you in.
It but the bats continue to do nothing and we'll

(06:08):
get to that in a, Second, Gordy but, yeah On,
GUSTO i, mean, look it's what's.

Speaker 2 (06:13):
Asked h he was supposed to be your.

Speaker 1 (06:15):
Sixth seventh, guy and even With lance mccullor's junior, factoring
and now he's what your seventh guy that you were.
Anticipating so it is what it. Is it's a role
that he was thrust into and maybe not supposed to be.
In so you're not mad at him or anything like,
that but it does beg the question and something we
talked about at spring training With, matt LIKE i look

(06:35):
THROUGH i can go back and look at a lot
of the short term one year deals that were. Signed
there are a lot of veteran guys That Dana brown
unfortunately did not go, for and not really through his
own fault of his Own they were desperately trying to
get under the. Tax they're Unloading Ryan. Presley they weren't
looking to acquire. Guys they had a solid one through.
Five then there's a lot of depth question marks there

(06:56):
and they're, like, man hopefully we can hang on and
keep this. Together but fourtually two of your guys go
down With Tommy john And arraghetty continues to miss time
with that fracture.

Speaker 3 (07:03):
Thumb, yeah If I'm Dana, Brown i'm calling every Day,
spencer how's the?

Speaker 2 (07:08):
Thumb it's, funny, though he said On.

Speaker 3 (07:10):
Sunday, Though he's like he wants to do more right,
now and we're trying to slow play it with, Him
like we don't because that's the thing, is like so
many of these, GUYS i think some of your old
pampered vets might play.

Speaker 2 (07:24):
Up.

Speaker 3 (07:24):
Ah you, know like If i'm making twenty six million
a year And i've been in the league fifteen, Years,
yeah you know this THUMB i really got to make
sure it's good BEFORE i get back out. There but
then these young hungry guys Like, Arraghetti he's, like oh,
man let's.

Speaker 2 (07:37):
Go domb feels.

Speaker 3 (07:38):
GOOD i want to, go and they're, like, whoa whoa,
cowboys slow it. Down there's a process. Here dana has
said now twice in the past week when asked About Spencer,
gay keep in mind he's got to go back through spring,
training like, basically he's got to go through a whole
re phase of warming, up getting, rehab, starts all that.

Speaker 2 (07:56):
Stuff so it's still gonna be a.

Speaker 3 (07:59):
While but that's WHERE i, say, Like, gusta are you
in My are you in my circle of? Trust can you?
Know IF i can't trust you to get through, Five
i've got.

Speaker 2 (08:08):
To go somewhere. Else Colton gordon at least has given you. Five.
Yeah Colton, gordon right, NOW i almost consider he's the.
Four gusto's the.

Speaker 3 (08:14):
Five AND i look at who's the dude that came
up for the one, Start Brandon walter give you five,
yeah and he's been pitching really well In TRIPLE. A
if with Sugar, LINE i almost, Say, gusto you moved
to the. Bullpen we're Bringing walter back up and giving
him that.

Speaker 1 (08:29):
Five, yeah you got to send somebody back down and
figure things out from.

Speaker 2 (08:33):
There AND i don't know exactly what you.

Speaker 1 (08:35):
Do maybe it could be dfa season For Forrest whitley
or somebody somebody else can.

Speaker 3 (08:39):
Get i'd either move on him OR i don't, know
says Our saladzar can go back, down.

Speaker 2 (08:45):
Right, yeah that's.

Speaker 3 (08:47):
True BUT i understand why they're keeping him because, basically
you're Playing kartini And das every, day and if you
have if one gets hurt in the, game you, know
you either lose the D h spot or you, know vice.

Speaker 1 (09:00):
Versa, yeah but, ALSO i, mean do you want to
burn a roster spot based on that remote. POSSIBILITY i
don't know that it'll hurt you for a few innings
when you're playing one of the guys can, catch when
you're playing two catchers every.

Speaker 3 (09:11):
Day, again there's the rare off chance That Victor jaraz
gets hurt in the Game karatina's final play and Then
kartina gets.

Speaker 1 (09:21):
Hurt yeah that's, true BUT i THINK i don't think
it's a one for one on the on the twenty
six man.

Speaker 2 (09:26):
Roster don't isn't.

Speaker 1 (09:27):
There a do you have to have a certain you
have to have a certain amount of?

Speaker 2 (09:30):
Pictures? Right, yeah thirteen or something like.

Speaker 3 (09:34):
THAT i can't, remember But walter already came up this,
year so he's, not you, know taking somebody else's.

Speaker 2 (09:38):
Spot.

Speaker 1 (09:39):
YEAH i think it's thirteen pitchers you can, have and
then it increases to fourteen. Wins so it's not necessarily
says Oar salas are one for one with a, pitcher
but it's something they got to figure. Out and, look
the good news is we and we keep saying, this
the good news is they haven't played their best. Baseball,
well we're sixty one games in the. Season they want
to start playing their best. Baseball that, great but the,

(10:01):
bats of, course have just been in a malaise for
a lot of the. Season they've been, better they're not
as bad as they were early on when they were
like twenty, seven twenty eighth and t ops and stuff like.
That but you, also of course are missing Yord. On
he's gonna continue to miss, time so that's not gonna
get any. Better it has to be the pitching that
holds it, together and when it, doesn't you basically have

(10:22):
what you had last night where, Look Ryan gusto gave
you four and third and gave up a couple of,
runs three earned, runs but then that was. It you
give up three runs in a game in nine, innings
you should be able to have a shot to win that,
game and they didn't because nobody did. Anything facing a
guy coming into the, game we jokingly said, yesterday oh,

(10:45):
man he's got two, starts he got AN era of
eight sixty. Four, yeah he's gonna throw six shut out
and that's basically almost what he.

Speaker 2 (10:50):
Did.

Speaker 3 (10:51):
Yeah, WELL i just, again if they're gonna get through
this grind to the, SEASON i keep it mind Is june.
FIFTH i, mean we're still gotta get through the entire.
Summer and you know What dani's. Timeline originally what he
said Was arrogetty Maybe. JULY i MEAN i think you're
it's last week Of july pushing. Now, yeah it feels

(11:12):
like the, Timeline and then he Said Luis garcia sometime In, august, well.

Speaker 2 (11:18):
Probably mid to Late. August we're, THINKING.

Speaker 1 (11:20):
I, mean there's they're scheduled LIVE vp in a Couple
he's an end Of, june so that means there's. Hurdles
he's still got to climb before he even. Does that's
SO i just, again nothing Against Ryan. GUSTA i had
him on the pre game show On. SUNDAY i like the,
guy but oh that explains a. Lot, actually you gotta
you gotta go a little bit. Deeper this is this
is it's unfair to your.

Speaker 3 (11:38):
Bullpen it's been outstanding all year long to keep having
to go to them and, go, hey guy couldn't get.

Speaker 2 (11:44):
In guy couldn't get into the. Fifth when need somebody
that pitch a.

Speaker 1 (11:46):
Fifth somebody pitches, six somebody pitches, seventh somebody pits, eighth
and it's, like, gosh like it's just it's a a
big ask right.

Speaker 3 (11:53):
Now but, again kudos To, Oker king AND. Susa they
all kept the game scoreless last. Night last night the story,
WAS i, mean it's not even Really. Gusto gusto gave Three,
earn that's, fine it's you got zero.

Speaker 1 (12:04):
Runs, Yeah and it's also makes The marjinden for era
that much more thin. NOW i, Mean frommer has been
very good for the. SEASON i mean he's had a
couple of bad, games And Hunter brown's been. Fantastic dudes
a cy young. Candidate but it's like they can't have bad,
games and you know in thirty whatever starts in a
season that a starting pitcher is gonna, have there's gonna
be a couple of. Duds but it's like you can
ill afford those right now with the state of the

(12:26):
rest of the.

Speaker 2 (12:27):
Rotation trumber really only had one.

Speaker 3 (12:29):
HICCUP i mean everything else has BEEN i, mean he's
he's got three twelve al and it lowers every time
he goes out.

Speaker 2 (12:34):
Here, yeah he's been very.

Speaker 1 (12:35):
Good SO i mean it's LIKE i, said though you
don't there's there's no room for the for the, moment
the margin for error is thinner with the other guys
in that. Rotation All, right we gotta say quick break
here on The Matt Thomas show With Ross.

Speaker 2 (12:48):
Chris gordy graciously is hanging out with. ME i appreciate.

Speaker 1 (12:51):
Him we Got brian McTaggart coming up with Full astros
conversation at eleven. O'clock we got you as, well would
you shuffle around the starting rotation of the way it?
Is when are these bats gonna wake? Up we've been
talking about it for sixty. Games we could talk about
all things astros and anything else you want to get
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(13:12):
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(13:36):
get right game for The. Stros Chris Gordy ross viadrial
with you here on A Sports talk seven.

Speaker 3 (13:43):
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Speaker 1 (13:50):
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in a. SHOUT i don't know if you check the demographics, Lately,
pal we're coming.

Speaker 2 (13:57):
Up we're coming up in this.

Speaker 3 (13:58):
World there are some parts to town where you will
you will not Recognize houston with The what does that?
Mean not recognizing? Signs there's there was a part of
TOWN i was in. Recently the signs were all In.
Spanish i'm, like where are?

Speaker 2 (14:09):
We what is?

Speaker 1 (14:10):
This, yeah, buddy hey it. Was it Was mexico two
hundred years. Ago it's coming.

Speaker 2 (14:14):
Back that's.

Speaker 3 (14:14):
Fine we appreciate the. DIVERSITY i tell you this all the.
Time when we went up To boston for the playoffs years.
AGO i was, LIKE i, WAS i was shocked by
the lack Of like when you see lack of after
living In houston for so many, years wherever you, go
it's a melting, pot, yes and then you go up,
There you're, like oh my, god did The pilgrims just land?

Speaker 4 (14:35):
Here?

Speaker 2 (14:36):
Like that was like felt Like i'm. There it felt like.
That WHEN i went To, seattle what is going on?

Speaker 5 (14:42):
HERE i?

Speaker 1 (14:42):
WAS i was getting looks from. PEOPLE i was, LIKE
i haven't felt like this in a long.

Speaker 3 (14:47):
Time the bigger the bigger picture is you come to
Appreciate houston and you go to an astro's game and
it's families and people who all looked, different and, You, Yes.
Houston you don't let anybody ever tell You houston's not
one of the more divers.

Speaker 1 (15:01):
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who or, what but one of the most diverse cities
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Speaker 2 (15:38):
Who's the Real Christian?

Speaker 1 (15:39):
Walker, WELL i, mean got eight home, runs not, terrible he.

Speaker 3 (15:45):
Does but this IS i think this is just who
he is gonna be this. YEAR i got SAY i
don't say. THAT i thought he was just kind of,
slumping because remember he got hurt in spring training and
they shut him, down and then it was, like you,
know remember opening, day it was up in the air
is he gonna be in the lineup is he?

Speaker 2 (16:00):
Not and they put it he was. There but the slow.

Speaker 3 (16:05):
Start you kind of chalk up, to, well he missed
all the spring training, basically so this is the month
Of may Or april was going to be his spring, training,
right getting his legs under him and all. That but
then you, know we got Into may and the average
ticked up a little. Bit he went from two oh
nine In april to two twenty three At. May but
it's still like he had about a two week. Span

(16:27):
they russ where he got a little. HOT i love How,
look we Love Space City Home. Network they do a
great job at the, broadcast but sometimes we cherry pick
with the. Numbers right when you, go, well Since may twenty,
fourth he's batting three. Hundred it's, like, okay we're saying
just basically like.

Speaker 2 (16:41):
Two weeks something at least it's.

Speaker 3 (16:45):
Something but then on top of, it now it's what
a bunch of o firs again as of late over
last for it's it's not been a great run the
last several, days and it's just we.

Speaker 1 (16:58):
Keep, waiting and we've been saying, saying, NOW i don't
think can you you can't say it's. Early now After
memorial in the baseball, season we're in The. Jeune it's
it's not early.

Speaker 3 (17:07):
ANYMORE i mean you're talking what over two hundred bats
now for, HIM i mean it's, yes it's it's well
past the early.

Speaker 2 (17:14):
Point are you familiar.

Speaker 1 (17:15):
With Stat cast's bat tracking? Stats very? Much, so what the,
hell let's just go just just follow me here for a.
Second they have what's, called you, know a fast swing
rate is a bat speed of seventy five miles an
hour or. More they have three years of data on.
This last year he was at basically fifty three percent

(17:37):
fast swing.

Speaker 2 (17:38):
Rate this year he's at.

Speaker 1 (17:39):
Forty the bat speed is way, down, basically is What
i'm telling you that is? Concerning and does that maybe
mean is there an oblique? Issue is that what we're
going to point to as far as what is happening
with him that it's his. Issue is it's something that
he can play, through but he's playing with the. PAINT
i kind of think, That BUT i also think, no
because it would be a situation where if he was

(18:02):
continuing to swing the bat like he, is he would
probably re injure it unless he's just somehow maintaining an.
Injury so if it's not something, physical then what is?
It is it is that just that he is in
the midst of a. Decline he's unfortunately falling off a
cliff in his. PRODUCTION A lah the name THAT i

(18:23):
was really trying to stave. Off people were using this
a couple of weeks in the, season Jose oh bray
you AND i was really trying to fight. That but
it's becoming more and more difficult to fight off that.
Name he hasn't been that. Bad but When JOSE. A
brady was first in An astro's, uniform it was it
was a steep, decline and we kept on, saying myself,

(18:44):
included it's gonna. Turn he's got a long major league track,
Record he's gonna be all, right and and then it
never really did. Turn, yeah it's like the good news
is he's given you good. Defense but, yes IT'S i,
mean you've.

Speaker 3 (18:59):
Got to you've had a first base problem basically since
you decided to move off From Yili. GURIEL i, mean
it's been it's it's it's been a. Problem it's it
was Jose. Abraw then you kind of Plug John singleton
in there and give you. Something so in the off
season you, go oll look who's? Available all you, know
big time all? Star right Once Christian walker at, least but,

(19:22):
regardless a guy considered one of the one of the
better off offensive first baseman out there free, agent and.

Speaker 1 (19:29):
It was a great deal when he, SAID i also,
LIKE i also liked the abreude WHEN i was, signed
and that didn't work out.

Speaker 2 (19:34):
Either three Time Gold glove but not not An All
star back to back to. Back he came, close, right
he played The All star futures. Game, yeah, duh so
you played a futures game ten years. Ago he's had
some nice.

Speaker 1 (19:46):
Seasons, yeah he's had some good. Seasons he's been, good but,
uh he just has not been good. Enough it's bad
when you're you're longing for the days Of John. SINGLETON
i mean his first base his.

Speaker 3 (19:58):
Worst season in the last six. Seasons he batted two
forty two at twenty twenty. TWO i MEAN i would
take that at this point two. Eight, Yeah AND i get.
It batting averages and everything it, Is, yeah but at
least give me some single, singles you, know like something
THAT i can get on.

Speaker 1 (20:15):
Basic least is some drag buntch or. SOMETHING i, mean come,
on that's. Ridiculous so you gotta do. Something Christian. Walker
it's not.

Speaker 3 (20:22):
Only fifteen walks on the year, Too like it'd be
another thing if you had like thirty, walks you'd go.
Okay at least he's getting on base raised on base, percentage.

Speaker 1 (20:29):
Yeah all of His, yeah his walk rates are, down
strikeout rates way. Up everything is just out of whack
for him right.

Speaker 2 (20:36):
Now and it just continues to happen and it hasn't.
Turned and we.

Speaker 1 (20:39):
Kind of saw REMEMBER und, two they had like really
one hot series in another, game and he completely changed
the complexion of his numbers just with like five. Games
So Christian walker can can really go on a heater
and kind of turn things around and start looking. Competent
but it feels like we've been basically saying that for
SIXTY us games now at this.

Speaker 2 (21:01):
Point so where do we go from here with? Him
you got to keep putting it in the. LINEUP i don't.

Speaker 1 (21:06):
Know, again like if he's not one hundred percent, healthy
that's something That astros had to figure. Out but you've
gotten into a deal to be the everyday first.

Speaker 2 (21:13):
BASEMENT i think you slide him. DOWN i think that's the.

Speaker 3 (21:15):
Answer, YEAH i think just slide him down a couple
spots AND i get everybody, goes, oh you're.

Speaker 2 (21:20):
Gonna move on side him own for it doesn't matter
Or Diez Victor kertini one of.

Speaker 5 (21:24):
THOSE i get.

Speaker 3 (21:25):
IT i get, IT i get. It but What's walker giving?
You he's consistently coming up with men on Basin he's
given you squad.

Speaker 1 (21:33):
Douche all, right we got to take quick bottom of
the break those you and hold will get to you
when we come.

Speaker 2 (21:37):
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Speaker 1 (21:37):
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Speaker 2 (21:52):
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Speaker 2 (22:11):
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Speaker 1 (22:15):
Thing just call Me ross, please for the love Of,
god your name is how you say? It, yeah that's.
True seven one three two one two five seven ninety
is the phone. Number seven one three two one two
five seven. Ninety we've been talking. Strows we Got brian
McTaggert coming up at eleven. O'clock, ALSO i just don't
get it at eleven thirty in The news at noon

(22:36):
With Jonathan allen coming up at. Twelve but right, now as,
Promised john In League city had been holding So john go.

Speaker 2 (22:42):
Ahead the floor is. Yours, hey what's going? On? Guys
how you doing? Great?

Speaker 5 (22:48):
Uh? So?

Speaker 2 (22:49):
Yeah, well two.

Speaker 6 (22:51):
THINGS i think it's been literally two or three years
where we've had really the offense has just been completely.

Speaker 2 (22:56):
Inconsistent you, know it's either hot or. Cold. NOW i
always they score ten runs and then you, know get
shut out two games in a. Row that's just the
way it's it's been like. That it's like the. CULTURE
i don't know what it.

Speaker 7 (23:09):
Is all two v's pretty, consistent you, KNOW i, MEAN i, guess,
uh shortstops pretty consistent.

Speaker 2 (23:17):
Now but you, know in a big.

Speaker 1 (23:20):
Way last year they were bad all, season but towards
the end of the, season when they finally won the
division and started winning a bunch of, games the bats
got hot for an extended stretch there at the.

Speaker 2 (23:30):
End, finally, well well you, remember, also we were horrible at.
Home we couldn't hit it home last. Year it was
it was.

Speaker 7 (23:36):
Crazy and now it seems like they've kind of remedied
that they're playing better at.

Speaker 6 (23:40):
Home but one last, thing what was the Price jefferson
Gold schmidt and this Guy? Walker because look at Gold,
schmidt he's killing it In New. York we can never
any free agent we get they just they they're in.
Decline it seems like in Gold schmid's thirty.

Speaker 1 (23:54):
Five, yeah but go, Look goldschmid is doing well for
The yankees right. NOW i don't know what his one
year deal, was but he was older and he was
horrible for a couple of. Years SO i, mean good
on on The yankees for for getting some value out of.
Him but at the, TIME i mean it just looked
like he was completely done and and LIKE i, said

(24:15):
he was a couple of years. Older i'll go look
at how much the deal.

Speaker 7 (24:18):
Was but, yeah, well you, know, really when you think about,
it what we five games over five. Hundred offense has
been spotty at, best all the injuries and.

Speaker 2 (24:28):
PITCHING i, mean they're.

Speaker 6 (24:30):
Doing quite, well, HONESTLY i mean for, what you, know
for what they, have because.

Speaker 7 (24:34):
The talent when you look at, it Doctor, bottom isn't
what it used to. Be you, know it just is
what it, is you, know AND i think they're getting
what they can out of.

Speaker 2 (24:41):
It they're just lucky they're in the division they, are
and that's really ALL i. Got thanks, guys.

Speaker 1 (24:45):
Thank you appreciate. It, Yeah, look the good news is is.
REALLY i, mean the The yankees and The tigers are pretty,
good but The American league as a, whole it's it's
not like it's. Great it's not like it's a bunch
of world. Beaters astro shoot be able to still make
the playoffs even with with the way that they, playing and,
yeah we can keep telling, ourselves, hey they still haven't

(25:06):
play their. Baseball at some point, though it's going to
be this is who they, are so we'll see to that.
Extent but the offense last year did heat up this,
year hopefully it can happen. Again the reality is you've
been Missing Jordan, alvarez one of the best and most
feared hitters on the, planet for an extended period of.

(25:26):
Time Jose L tuvey looks to be quite frankly in.
Decline he's thirty five years. Old you got, young unproven
guys like Like Cam, smith and then you have Thankfully
Jeremy penny And Estak parade is doing their, thing but under.
Performances Janar diez And Christian WALKER i think had the headliners.

Speaker 3 (25:46):
THERE i think al TWOVES i think he's coming back.
Around does he get back to three hundred on the,
SEASON i don't, know BUT i think he'll go. Close
like if he finishes, OUT i would bet this he
bets finishes.

Speaker 1 (25:58):
Maybe two eighty to eighty. Five he's got the nine home,
runs all, RIGHT i mean, like, yeah the power has been.
There it's kind of want to.

Speaker 2 (26:07):
Happen.

Speaker 1 (26:08):
Uh last year is that he kind of started swinging
at everything and selling out for.

Speaker 3 (26:12):
Power, yeah BUT i think that the average has ticked
up these last two three. WEEKS i think he's gonna be.
Fine you see the big news On, altuve the big.
NEWS i did not see the big. News this was
just announced go. Ahead ten minutes. Ago Jose altuve named
a Dike in brand. Ambassador oh thank. God he is
going to partner with Dyke In Comfort Technologies North America.

Speaker 1 (26:36):
Incorporated, well the next Time i'm in the market for
commercial air, CONDITIONING i will consider Dyke.

Speaker 5 (26:42):
In.

Speaker 2 (26:42):
Wait, wait let me read the press release to.

Speaker 3 (26:43):
You houston is, home said L, twove nine TIME Mlb
All star and two Time World Serious. Champion i've spent
my whole career and appreciate the opportunity to partner with
an organization like Dyke.

Speaker 2 (26:53):
In they cut the check AND i signed. It there we.
Go thank.

Speaker 8 (26:57):
You.

Speaker 3 (26:57):
Josel, look if you're gonna be the naming rights to the,
ballpark why not also have the star player In.

Speaker 2 (27:03):
Dorschu, yeah they clearly have been ramping up their.

Speaker 1 (27:05):
Advertising i'd never heard of them before they bought the
name r naming rights to the. Ballpark, SO i, mean
as far as name recognition, goes they've been. Running they've
been running spots during games and stuff like. That now
they Get Jose. Altuve this is the isn't it just
the most air conditioned city on the planet or something like?

Speaker 2 (27:20):
That so is really not a bad spot to be
in for? That can't you see the commercial?

Speaker 1 (27:24):
Already it's like a husband and wife having issues with
THEIR ac in the middle of The houston heat And
altove shows.

Speaker 2 (27:29):
Up oh have you guys called dyke in?

Speaker 5 (27:31):
Yet?

Speaker 1 (27:32):
Yeah this is literally What google, Says houston the most
air conditioned city in the, world according to a recent
study by Dyke.

Speaker 2 (27:40):
In isn't that you Think that's what they?

Speaker 1 (27:42):
Did they're, Like, hey what's the most air conditioned? City, Okay, Houston,
yeah let's Buy let's just spend all of our advertising money.
There not a bad, idea not a bad marketing strategy
to ramp it up In, houston one of the hottest
cities in the most air conditioning place on the. Planet,
yeah it wasn't. There There they have like a massive
work house. Somewhere i'll take your word for. It, well

(28:03):
Jose L twove will tell us that his next spot
he will Fordik.

Speaker 2 (28:06):
In. CONGRATS i.

Speaker 1 (28:07):
Appreciate congratulations to. Him david In. Spring you're next up
here on The Matt Thomas show With.

Speaker 2 (28:12):
Ross.

Speaker 9 (28:13):
Yeah ross And, gordy you two are my. Favorites H,
ross your sense of humor is great AND i like
the stats both of y'all.

Speaker 2 (28:20):
Bring, oh thank.

Speaker 8 (28:21):
You.

Speaker 1 (28:21):
David you clearly are very, smart, intelligent and you have great.

Speaker 2 (28:24):
Taste.

Speaker 9 (28:26):
Yeah uh, So i'm kind Of i'm. Clueless what DID
i understand that Both chaz And zach are? Hurt? Yes
and and what can you tell me more about this left?

Speaker 10 (28:39):
Field?

Speaker 5 (28:40):
Uh?

Speaker 2 (28:41):
Melton, yeah you brought Up, yeah he's been one of
the astros top. Prospects, sorry go. Ahead one more thing
to throw out.

Speaker 9 (28:49):
There i'd never heard Of, dyking but my brother in
law was an electrician in The Middle east working with the,
army and he said the military installed a bunch of
the like eight hundred of their air, conditioners one of
the facilities he was working.

Speaker 7 (29:04):
In, okay back to baseball.

Speaker 2 (29:06):
Sorright all, right thank, You, david appreciate. It all, right
there we, GO i got.

Speaker 1 (29:13):
It sorry all right, Anyways, Yeah, david first of, all
thank you for the kind. Words and, yeah give us
your scouting report On Jacob Meltain. GORDY i think he's
been good so. Far he's been. Fine he's played oh
for three with three k's last. Night Well i'm talking more.

Speaker 3 (29:28):
Defensive oh, kay he's made you, know played the ball
well two nights ago when that sun was right in his,
face made a couple of nice, grabs you, know had
the infield single on his first. GAME i mean it's
small stample size so. FAR i just he's one like
they talked about last year was maybe going to be
the year he got.

Speaker 2 (29:48):
Caught he would get called, up but he'd bound some.

Speaker 3 (29:50):
Injuries battled an injury again this, year so you, know
hopefully he can stay. Healthy but he's a guy who's
twenty four, now SO i mean it's this is, Prime,
like get him out, there see what you got in.

Speaker 1 (30:03):
Him, yeah you, know he's their number two prospect AND
i think he. Was he was on a top hundred
list last, year but he wasn't on any top hundred
lists this. YEAR i can't remember which list it, was
but it was eighty. EIGHTH i don't know if it
Was Baseball america Or prospectus Or pipeline or.

Speaker 2 (30:20):
Whatever it doesn't.

Speaker 1 (30:21):
Matter but, anyways he's got some, speed he's supposed to
be good in the, field got a little bit of.
Power but, look he's not one of the top prospects in.
Baseball In TRIPLE a this, year just seventy one played,
appearances he had an eight to EIGHTY, ops which is pretty.

(30:42):
Good last year over two leagues he had a seven
to thirty SIX. Ops so more of a speed and fielding.
Guy more basically is his prospect comparison To Jake. Myers
speed and, fielding not much. Bat, no he's probably got
more power Than Jake, myers but not thought of as
one of the top prospects in.

Speaker 2 (31:03):
Baseball maybe the only one that.

Speaker 3 (31:05):
Was Was Cam smith and he got remove from that
because he made the Opening gay, roster so he's not
a prospect. Anymore, Yeah Bryce matthews is your number, one
and a few People i've talked to before the season
said in a perfect, world they'd like to Keep bryce
down there At TRIPLE a all. Year let him get that. Back,
now he's put up good, numbers he's. Done you, know
he had a couple of long hitting, streaks stealing some.

(31:27):
BASSES i, mean he's he's, good been good, defensively you,
know so you, know but but With Jeremy payne yet,
short you, know it's kind of can he play some
SECOND i mean there's that's where your hole has kind
of been created With al TWO v playing, Left dubond
hasn't been in fuego with the, bat And Brandon rodgers
has been a. Disaster, like you could really Use Bryce

(31:48):
matthews maybe playing some second, Base but do you really
want that many young guys up? Here do you really
want to be playing Rookie Cam, smith Rookie Jacob, melton
and Rookie Bryce.

Speaker 1 (31:56):
Matthews, Yeah it's it's almost, LIKE i, mean what other
choice do you. Have you're looking to inject some life
into this team somehow you're looking look At Jim crane
And Dana brown have said the goal is always The World.
Series so if you're looking to improve this, team that's
Why Cam smith made this team out of camp because
they were looking for some lightning in a. Bottle they
need a little something to add some juice to this.

Speaker 3 (32:18):
Lineup but when's the last time you heard any of
those people say the words world. Series it's been kind of,
well they say the. Window they mean world, trades which
send a little bit.

Speaker 2 (32:26):
Too.

Speaker 3 (32:26):
Playoffs, now When dana refers to, it this is a playoff,
team he doesn't say this is A World.

Speaker 2 (32:31):
Series.

Speaker 1 (32:32):
Now he gets asked that sometimes and he's, like, well
does it look like A World series team to you?

Speaker 3 (32:36):
Though but as we, know like remember The, nationals remember The,
Braves like it's about getting hot at the right. Time,
now the twenty Two astros were hot the whole year
and then into the. Postseason but The braves That World,
series The Nationals World, series they got hot in the
second half of the.

Speaker 2 (32:53):
Season so, yes well this.

Speaker 3 (32:55):
Team and look they're doing fine sitting right up, there you,
know in the mix And Ao west and all.

Speaker 2 (32:59):
That but let's, see maybe some people do get.

Speaker 3 (33:02):
Hot maybe this team does pick it, up Or on
gets back, Healthy ragedty gets, back and maybe they go
on a heater In.

Speaker 1 (33:07):
September then, maybe, yes we said this is A World.
Series heap can convince yourself for. Sure all those things
that you said that can happen are. Possibilities but what
are the odds that they all? Happen the odds That
Christian walker turns it, Around Ianter diaz turns it, around
Jose L tuve improves and gets his numbers up at
least relative to where they are last, Year That Jake

(33:30):
myers keeps this, up That arrogetty comes back, healthy that
you don't really suffer any more major rotational. Injuries all
those things have to, happen and they have. To all
those dominoes could fall into. Place but that's basically what
you need for me for this team to be A
World series.

Speaker 2 (33:46):
Contender all those things have to.

Speaker 3 (33:48):
Happen But i'd say it the other, way like you, said,
Well Jake myers keep this, Up probably, No but Will
Christian walker continue to?

Speaker 2 (33:54):
Struggle probably. Not the odds. Same maybe he's gonna have
a hot. Month need? Him do we need him to do?
That like?

Speaker 1 (34:01):
Immediately and if it is something physical then he needs
to take some time. Off but then you got TO
i mean you'd, say oh, no you'd MISS i, mean.

Speaker 2 (34:10):
You got a hole in your. Lineup, well he's a
hole in the lineup right.

Speaker 1 (34:12):
Now SO i don't know what the issue is if
it is just is it, decline is it bad, luck
is it not one hundred percent? Health is it a
combination of all of? THAT i don't, know but it's
whatever it is right now that out there on the,
field it's it's not. Good it's good in the, FIELD
i should, say but not good at the.

Speaker 2 (34:28):
Plate.

Speaker 3 (34:29):
Yeah, again you're you're you're hanging, Around you're you're right,
there still in the.

Speaker 2 (34:33):
Mix, yes thankful of your division is.

Speaker 3 (34:36):
Trash when tonight would be another series, victory you go
up To, cleveland play The.

Speaker 2 (34:42):
Guardian what The guardian's been? DOING i haven't even paid
attention to.

Speaker 1 (34:45):
Them, uh The guardians are basically like. You they're thirty
three and twenty. Seven they'd be a half game ahead of.

Speaker 3 (34:50):
You, okay, yeah they're, right they got there's six games Behind.
Detroit The tigers have just come out AND Aj, hitch
he knows a little something about, baseball. Man The tiger's
team is right.

Speaker 2 (35:00):
Hot.

Speaker 1 (35:00):
Yeah there are four teams ahead of you in The American.
League thankfully none of them are in your. Division atros
still in first place in The American League. West all,
right quick break here on The Matt Thomas show With,
Ross Chris gordy is hanging. Out Matt thomas's. Out we
Got brian McTaggert talking all things stros coming up at eleven,
o'clock ten to fifty one in THE. Pm here On
Sports talk seven ninety Ros Vy aria with You Chris

(35:22):
gordy as. WELL i gotta, say, folks if you are
planning to go to The kesha show In, houston just
judging By Chris gordy going through her catalog the last
couple of, BREAKS i think you're gonna See Chris cordy.

Speaker 2 (35:36):
There what's the name of that tour that they're going.

Speaker 1 (35:39):
On by the, WAY i don't think we fan.

Speaker 3 (35:43):
HERE i JUST i was listening to her. SONGS i was,
like she had more bangers than THAN i.

Speaker 1 (35:47):
Remember had some. Hits it's going, Down she's yelling. Timber
she had some issue with the guy who owned her.
Music she didn't own the lights to.

Speaker 2 (35:56):
Them it was a whole.

Speaker 1 (35:57):
DEAL i thought she was that the one she was
in like an abusive relationship with Two, yeah so.

Speaker 2 (36:01):
Not only was he abusing, her but then he owned her. Music.

Speaker 3 (36:04):
Too, Yeah kesha is out and she is on The
Scissor Sister's Summer.

Speaker 2 (36:10):
Tour all the, time one more, time The Sister's Summer.
Tour what was the full With? Kesha, well it gets
kesher and is that it is one hundred and thirty
dollars tickets to get in the. Pit you want to
get the?

Speaker 8 (36:28):
Pit?

Speaker 2 (36:28):
Uh are? You people are mashing the. Timber it's going down.

Speaker 1 (36:37):
Far up your headbutting people in the pit During, kesha.

Speaker 2 (36:40):
Well, Too i'm gonna die. Young, yeah you probably mash it.

Speaker 1 (36:44):
Up and, yes she is on tour with The Scissor.
Sisters not familiar with. Them, NO i don't know what
kind of hits they. Got your Favorite Scissor sister? Song,
uh that would BE i Wish.

Speaker 2 (36:58):
Yeah let it. Be it was. Mine that's.

Speaker 1 (37:00):
Great An american pop band formed in two. Thousand that'd
be The Scissor, sisters which it looks like it's three
or four people and three of them are. Dudes it
is also called the you can't say, that but go?
Ahead the women's body Part Out toour starts with the
t one of the seven words you can't say on.

(37:22):
Television according To George, carlin true but all, right so
we're going to see you.

Speaker 2 (37:27):
There where is it At Cynthia? Woods all?

Speaker 1 (37:30):
RIGHT i imagine we'll be giving tickets the way to those
that believe it or not at some, point but those
will be hotter than The Psychedelic.

Speaker 2 (37:38):
FURS i feel, like are you? Sure? Yes people love
The Psychedelic.

Speaker 1 (37:42):
FURS i mean we got people ringing us off the,
hook trying to get The psychedelic.

Speaker 2 (37:46):
FIRST i knew one song by. THEM i think most
people don't only know what one hit from the. Eighties
where were they playing At ron's barbecue?

Speaker 5 (37:54):
Joint?

Speaker 2 (37:55):
NO i think it Was Cynthia woods right, Now Cynthia.

Speaker 1 (37:57):
Wood you're lying The Psychedelic furs are Headlining Cynthia.

Speaker 2 (38:00):
Woods i'll take your word for.

Speaker 5 (38:03):
It.

Speaker 1 (38:03):
Cass that's got like the what are The Peacock room
At house Of blues written all over.

Speaker 2 (38:09):
It it holds like one hundred.

Speaker 1 (38:10):
People jonathan would know he's giving away the. Tickets, yeah
he should. Know by the, way quick, Note, jonathan when
you read, that you you're supposed to, say as we're
given away these free, tickets you're supposed to, say tickets
available at live nation dot com or whatever.

Speaker 2 (38:21):
Else the rest of the read says something like, That
OH i said the whole. Thing, Okay, okay yeah they.

Speaker 1 (38:26):
Are because the reason they give us free tickets is
because we're promoing the website and calling to action for
people who don't win so they can go and buy the.

Speaker 2 (38:34):
Tickets, well AM i just not hearing this off the? Air,
No i'm telling them right.

Speaker 1 (38:37):
Now they are house Of SEE i told you this Is. Acadelic,
First we're not going to be At Cynthia. Woods they're Not.
KESHA i Mean. Kesha, Nobody well who Is? KESHA i
mean at the end of the, day one of the
Great american, Songbirds. KESHA i go With Ella, Fitzgerald Whitney
houston And kesha with a dollar.

Speaker 3 (38:54):
Shot he brought back the early nineties art of not
singing but speaking Over.

Speaker 2 (39:00):
Like what talent does she? Have she just. Talks she
talks auto tune.

Speaker 3 (39:06):
Right and you're talking some weird kind Of caden stuff
looked Like MiG.

Speaker 1 (39:11):
Jagger and next thing you, know she's got millions and
millions of. Dollars good for her to good not a
bad gig if you can get.

Speaker 3 (39:20):
It remember that early nineties uh trend of like the
guys at the end of songs will be like a
talk talk talk to you, know like where they were
just like.

Speaker 2 (39:29):
Speaking are you talking about the boys to? Men guy
with a deep, Voice.

Speaker 1 (39:32):
Well, no, YEAH i want you back uh l rhythm
or LaBouche la boos like those kind of, Bands, okay
or how about Just Marky mark and the funky but
another kind of. Talking well he got he kind of,
WRAPPED i, guess but he did a little feel. It,
no we're not feeling. It, nobody nobody's feeling these. Vibrations they're. Horrible,

(39:54):
Okay So kesha coming To, houston AND i Believe robbed is.
Robbed this Match box twenty broken.

Speaker 2 (40:00):
Up it Is Rob thomas minus Match bocks. Twenty that's a.

Speaker 1 (40:03):
Shame you know what if there's one THING i, WISH
i wish Match box twenty could get back.

Speaker 3 (40:07):
Together, well did you SAY i Think styx is in?
There Cynthie woods tonight tomorrow? Night what's left of?

Speaker 2 (40:14):
STICKS i?

Speaker 3 (40:14):
Imagine well it's, yeah there's some new, members but but
then along with them is like a former member of The.

Speaker 2 (40:20):
Eagles Say Don, felder No Don, henley.

Speaker 3 (40:25):
No Don, felder and Then Kevin cronin From. Rush so
it's not all A, rush it's just the lead singer From.

Speaker 1 (40:32):
Rush it's like we got some spare parts of some
bands that have kind of broken up or die.

Speaker 2 (40:35):
Off so here it. Comes see us tonight at The
Centio Woods Mitchell. Pavilion oh there was nothing fun of.

Speaker 3 (40:40):
Here last YEAR i Took lauren to See Nick carter
from The Backstreet. Boys it was Just nick, though but
he does all The Backstreet boys.

Speaker 1 (40:48):
Songs, wait WHO i get My nick and My Aaron
carter went crazy right?

Speaker 3 (40:53):
Right this is the older brother, okay But nick did
all of the back Boy he was Himself and where was?
This it's some very small the worst, okay AND i felt.
Bad it was like not even there was like one
hundred people. There but it's really funny because like during
some of the, songs he goes, like you, know tell.

Speaker 2 (41:11):
Me, why and then he holds the microphone out to.

Speaker 3 (41:13):
You but he has no backup singers to sing the other,
parts so the crowd is to work in the.

Speaker 2 (41:19):
Crowd it's called crowd.

Speaker 3 (41:20):
Interaction but you, know like when he's performed with The Backstreet,
boys they're all singing the other.

Speaker 2 (41:24):
Vocals he was only singing his.

Speaker 1 (41:26):
Coming up next week we'll Get brian McTaggart's top Five
Backstreet boys song or top Five casha. Songs is, well
you know we're gonna do. That it's gonna be All
kesha and All Backstreet.

Speaker 3 (41:36):
Boys brian his country music, only so top Five George straight.

Speaker 2 (41:40):
Songs he's probably.

Speaker 1 (41:42):
Good he's got kinda, know some kind of seventies and
eighties or something like. That all, Right, okay maybe we're
gonna Talk. Astros we're gonna get back on the rails
coming up in the next, Segment brian, McTaggart astros Dot
com talking all Things.

Speaker 2 (41:53):
Stros next.

Speaker 1 (41:55):
Our number two of The Matt Thomas show With ross
here On Sports talk seven ninety Without Matt. Thomas he
is out, today he will be back. Tomorrow got a
lot of stuff coming, up INCLUDING i just don't get
it at eleven. Thirty but right now please to be
joined by our Weekly thursday, Guest brian mctagger covering The

(42:16):
astros FOR mlb Dot. Com astros in a three game
series against The Pittsburgh. Pirates first couple of, Games, brian
just like we, expected they Beat Paul skeins and they
lose to some guy Named Mike.

Speaker 2 (42:33):
Burrows, yeah just like we all all drew it up.

Speaker 11 (42:39):
RIGHT i, MEAN i THINK i think it had more
to do with who The astros had on the mound
probably than who The pirates would, THROW i mean. Schemes
they had no business winning that, Game BUT i mean,
mccullor you, know hat tipped mccolors because he matched him
for six innings and then they got the big swing From.

Speaker 2 (42:53):
Walker so nice job. There but.

Speaker 11 (42:58):
You, know When gusto has, pitched it's you, know his
last four or five, starts it's it's you.

Speaker 2 (43:04):
Know he's not getting deep in the, games not giving
them much of a.

Speaker 11 (43:07):
Chance but, hey they Got fromber today and a chance
to win a series on the.

Speaker 1 (43:10):
Road how long much longer do you Think gusto is
going to stay in the? Rotation and then who do
you think would be the next man?

Speaker 11 (43:17):
Up, YEAH i MEAN i think they might be getting
close to that, point but also going to be entering
a stretch up or a bunch of games without a day. Off,
again not as long as they, did you, know last,
time but like you, KNOW i think about you, know
two weeks, worth so that might be an area where
they want to go to six man, Rotation but who
do they put in the rotation at that. POINT i,

(43:39):
mean they're pretty much at the end of their pitching
depth right, now you, know you, know do you bring Up,
uola who's throwing really? WELL i mean, again he's he's a.
Rookie you don't know what you're gonna. Get Blue ball
is here before do you bring him? Back so they're
in a bit of a buying, HERE i, think starting pitching,
wise because you feel really good if you're The astros

(43:59):
when you Got Hunter brown Or frobervaldez, going AND i
Mean i'll even Put lance in that category, now and
then When gusto And gordon, go you, know not so
not so. GOOD i mean not that you can't win those.
Games And gordon's pitched a little bit better Than gusto
at this. Point but the point is they're just at
the end of their pitching depth right now until they
get Rig getty, back maybe they Get garcia back In,

(44:20):
august or they make a. Trade so they're in a
bit of a tough spot with their pitching, depth just
with all the.

Speaker 1 (44:25):
Injuries, yeah you mentioned mccullors and on what A god,
said he's been the last couple of starts out, there
quality starts and one hundred and two pitches ninety six
pitches to say that that's where we. Are where you're
kind of putting him in the safer or reliable, category
where even not even a month ago Against cincinnati he
was out there getting shelled and you're, like is this
guy about to GET df eight in a couple of.

(44:46):
Starts it has been crazy that he has turned around
in the way he. Is and you're, Saying, brian you think, that,
hey going forward until further, notice we can kind of
trust this guy in the.

Speaker 2 (44:57):
ROTATION i think.

Speaker 11 (44:59):
So and, YEAH i mean it's only been a you,
know three four star sample, here but WHEN i, mean
if you look back At lance's entire, career when he's been,
healthy he's been. Good so it's not like this is
a guy who hasn't done it. Before and you're, like,
okay but if he's, healthy he's a really really good starting.
Pitcher you, know he pitches a little differently than he did,
before but you know he can still be very effective

(45:19):
when he's landing both of those breaking, balls and you
know his fastball is good, enough and so you, Know
i'm not ready to put him in the Fromber Hunter brown.
Category BUT i think if he's pitching on you The,
astros you're, like we got a really good chance to win.

Speaker 1 (45:33):
Today brian, McTaggart astros dot, COM mlb Dot com with
us here On Sports talk seven Ninety, brian, when as
we often do on these, segments ask you to get
out your crystal. Ball in let's say three, months how
are we Viewing Christian walker and where is he in

(45:54):
The astros? Lineup and like at the end of the, Sea,
yeah he's in a few. Months is he still in
the cleanup?

Speaker 2 (46:02):
Spot do you? THINK i, mean can he turn this?
Around is this who he?

Speaker 11 (46:05):
Is is this?

Speaker 1 (46:06):
Decline is? THIS i mean we we're way too far
in the season to blame the oblique thing from the
start of the.

Speaker 11 (46:12):
Year, yeah you can't say he didn't have a you,
know a spring training anymore or any of that. Stuff,
YEAH i, mean you, know you're you're past the third
point of the, season so you know you start to, say, well,
well maybe this is who he.

Speaker 2 (46:26):
Is he's.

Speaker 11 (46:27):
Declined he's Not Joseah bray you, decline but he's declined
quite a. Bit you know his, numbers you, know the
last month or so aren't just. Terrible they're not what
you want them to. Be you, know if you're THE
i think his last you, know thirty, games he's you,
know he's still hitting like two. NINETEEN i mean that you,
know you need that to be. Higher he's on base
percentage just you, know like two sixty. Seven so, uh you,

(46:49):
Know i'm not defending, him but, yeah the deeper you
get into, this you're, wondering, well this this is who we.
HAVE i, mean the good part is he's still playing
a very very solid first. Base but, YEAH i mean
it depends how else the lineup shakes out. TOO i,
mean if you, know When alvarez comes, BACK i MEAN
i Think alvarez is going to hit clean.

Speaker 2 (47:07):
Up that's that's pretty.

Speaker 11 (47:07):
Clear joe said that he likes the, one, two three
at the top of the lineup like they, are so
that's gonna bump him down to. Fifth he bump him
down a little, deeper you, know maybe put somebody else
in that fifth.

Speaker 2 (47:17):
SPOT i, mean that's probably conversations that they have to.

Speaker 11 (47:19):
Have AND i Think walker is enough of a pro
where you, know they get to the midway point of the,
season you, know he's still got a you, know you
know ops of you, know around seven hundred or whatever it,
is that he'll understand what they're. Doing and because he's,
uh you, KNOW i know this is not what he envisioned.
Either so but, yeah we'll. SEE i, mean you, know
he could get hot and turn it. Around you, know

(47:40):
he's but so far through uh a third of the,
season it's with especially the money they're paying, him he's
he's been a disappointment at the.

Speaker 1 (47:48):
Play, yeah we kind of saw with L twov he
had that hot five game stretch and it just brought
up his season numbers so.

Speaker 2 (47:54):
Much so you're hoping that For Christian.

Speaker 1 (47:56):
Walker and REALLY i think we'd be talking about Jan
Or diaz and and the way that he struggled at
the plate if it weren't For. Walker he did get
a couple of hitch, yesterday but it just he seems
to be another bat that just hasn't woken up fully.

Speaker 11 (48:09):
Either, yeah you just wonder if they would have Got
Yanner daz production from last, Year Christian walker production from last.
YEAR i, mean they would have a pretty good little
cushion in this, DIVISION i, think you, KNOW i, mean
look at their last few, games just offensively they're just
struggling to score runs and the games are winnings when you,

(48:29):
Know Hunter brown just pitches his tail off for you,
Know Framber, valdez there was a complete game And i'd
be three pitches and it's just good enough for a
one nothing. Win there's just very little margin for air
with the offense right, now just because or with, pitching
just because the offense is.

Speaker 2 (48:45):
Just not getting it. Done they just have too many guys.

Speaker 11 (48:48):
Underperforming you, know for Everything Jeremy panya has, done and
the Striatees Jake myers has, made you, know a step
back For diaz at the, plate you, know a step
back For Christian walker at the, plate so that that
sort of negates those. Things and then you have the
injuries To alvarez and you Know Cam smith's up and.
Down so it's it's not a great. Offense they're gonna
need their pitching to carry. Them and like we, said

(49:10):
they're bullpen's been pretty, good you, know a couple of
awards against The, rays and the starting pitching their death
is being. Tested so this is certainly a sort of
a tenuous part of the SEASON i think for.

Speaker 2 (49:21):
Them, yeah and you Mentioned Cam.

Speaker 1 (49:22):
SMITH i wanted to get to him an over fourteen
stretch for, him he started to see some signs a,
life a lot of hard hit. Contact he had that
three hit game in The Seattle series and looked like
he was kind of coming around back down from. Him just,
overall if you kind of zoom out and look at
the forest of his, season how would you. Evaluate of,
course very good, defensively but sputtering an up and down.

Speaker 2 (49:44):
OFFENSIVELY i think he looks like a rookie who's played fifty.
GAMES i, mean he's had his ups and. Downs you.

Speaker 11 (49:50):
Know, defensively he's become a very very good right. FIELDER i,
mean no one really even talks about it, Anymore, Like,
Okay Cam smith's. RIGHT i, mean this is the guy
who's a third baseman when they traded for him and
came to, training is a third. Baseman and then you,
know you remember he was hitting so, well like late
in spring, training like we're gonna tie him the right
field just because he thought that's where they could get.

Speaker 1 (50:07):
Him in the.

Speaker 2 (50:07):
Lineup and they.

Speaker 11 (50:07):
Did he's their opening day right fielder and he's done
a really nice job out. There BUT i mean his
overall numbers aren't. BAD i mean he's his ops is
almost seven hundred is on dase percentage three. Thirty he's
twenty two years, Old he's he's only going to get.
Better i'm not too worried about. Him If i'm The.
Astros he's gonna have up some downs like. This and
he had a really good home stand against The mariners

(50:28):
and The, athletics.

Speaker 2 (50:30):
Not so much against The.

Speaker 11 (50:31):
Rays but you, know he hit a ball really hard
yesterday to the pull side that a diving catch was.
Made that's a really good sign for. Him when he's
pulling the, ball that means, he's you, know he's on
time and he's where he needs to. Be, so If
i'm The, Astros i'm not worried About Cam smith at this.

Speaker 1 (50:44):
Point brian mctagger continuing with us here on A Sports
talk seven Ninety as far as lineup configuration goes now
With Jacob melton up with him and Left myers and,
Center Cam smith and right and then Jose L tuve
back to the old second, base how much barring health
and guys getting up and down and stuff like, that

(51:05):
how set in stone do you think that would, be
especially with all this talk about Al twov being in left,
field and then getting some some work in second base
and really being a natural fit, there especially With melton
up with the.

Speaker 11 (51:16):
Club, Yeah i'm not In, pittsburgh SO i haven't had
a chance to answer ask this. Question if it you,
know the writers up there might have asked, it and
if you, know IF i missed, IT i. Apologize but you,
know that's a very big left field In. PITTSBURGH i,
mean it's one of the biggest in. Baseball So i'm
wondering if that's you, know the reason that you know
he hasn't, played you, know left field these two, games

(51:37):
is a second base just because so much ground to
cover out, there and you do Have, melton now another
left handed. Bat he's been in the lineup twice against
right handed hit a couple of right handed, pitchers so you,
KNOW i think probably both of those things play into.
THAT i, mean you, know before they got To, pittsburgh
Du bond was still playing what three out of every
four games at second. Base Brandon rodgers time is dwindled

(52:01):
here in the last couple of, weeks probably for good.
Reason so BUT i just wonder if it's just park
park related that we've seen how two bight second base
the last couple of.

Speaker 1 (52:10):
Days, yeah, okay that'll be certainly something that we are.
Monitoring brian mctagger continuing here On Sports talk seven. Ninety,
so you keep on saying this in the, season and you,
know like The astros kind of have maybe they haven't
played their best. Baseball this and this and this has gone,
wrong and then of course the good news continues that
the division is very winnable for The astros despite all

(52:33):
these struggles in. Pitch we talked about basically this entire.
Interview this is an, issue and the batting is an,
issue and the pitching is an, issue and they're in
first place in The American League.

Speaker 2 (52:42):
West, yeah you're, Right.

Speaker 11 (52:45):
ROSS i, mean we sit there and list out all
these issues that they have and, like, oh, yeah they're
in first.

Speaker 2 (52:50):
Place you're, like, what this doesn't make. SENSE i, mean,
yeah number, one this is a weak.

Speaker 11 (52:55):
DIVISION i, mean The mariners are under, achieving you, know
the changes they made to their offense or it's just not.
Enough The rangers aren't very, good you, know The angels
have slipped back to being The. Angels The, athletics you,
know are pretty. Bad so it's it's a winnable. Division astros,
are you, know have a half game lead. Here only
two teams in the division have a positive run, differential

(53:18):
and The mariners barely. Do, heck The astros only have
a plus fifteen run, differential so it's not like they're
killing it. Either but a very winnable division THAT i
think once The astros start to get some pitching, back you,
know they're going to make a move at the. DEADLINE
i think it's a division they should. Win, also their
schedule is is pretty easy here coming, up you, know
the next next few. WEEKS i, mean they got The

(53:38):
White socks coming, in The twins come, in but they're playing,
really really. Well then they go to The a's And,
ANGELS i mean two series that they should win on
the road and be able to fatten the cat a little.

Speaker 2 (53:48):
Bit and you know The rockies coming up in Early.

Speaker 11 (53:50):
July so a chance to you, know to stack some
wins and put some distance between you and The mariners
before the trade.

Speaker 1 (53:56):
Deadline, YEAH i believe by opponent's strength of scale upon
a win percent is they have the weakest schedule in baseball.
Remaining but with that being, said you mentioned a possible
move getting, made and we talked about the starting. Rotation
do you Think Dana brown is scuffling around trying to
do anything or you're just trying to hold the glue
So Arag getty gets back and you can get closer
to the deadline when hopefully there'd be more potential.

Speaker 11 (54:18):
Sellers, YEAH i think if they do, anything it's gonna
be closer to the. Deadline you got to wait to
see how it all shakes out a little, bit see
who's really, in who's really. Out you're, right you are
going to Get Eric getty. Back maybe you, know it's
going to be closer to the deadline than. Not unfortunately
for The, astros so you, know they're probably going to
be in the market for a left handed bat as,

(54:38):
well maybe someone they you know they can plug in
to help at second. Base And i'm not, sure but
every team is going to be in the market for starting.
Pitching and any Time Dana brown, talks he's, like we're
always in the market for. Pitching BUT i think that's
true almost for any. Team if you look up and,
Down yankees is going to be in the market for.
Pitching tigers are probably going to want some. Pitching every
team's gonna want some. Pitching so that's you're gonna have

(54:59):
to wait too closer to the deadline before that plays.
Out but if they Get errigeddy, back and if they
believe that The garcia is on a better track maybe
to join them shortly after The All star, break they'll
feel a lot better about their starting.

Speaker 1 (55:12):
Pitching brian McTaggart astros dot, COM mlb dot com with
us here our weekly guests On. Thursdays, brian appreciate the
time and let the folks know what you got to
go on on the. Website, yeah astros dot. Com we
have coverage From. Pittsburgh i'll be In cleveland this, weekend so,
yeah just keep tuning to astros dot.

Speaker 11 (55:31):
Com we'll have you covered all weekend on the road.
Trip and it's no, Paywalls, ROSS i don't want your.
Money just click on and. Read it's all.

Speaker 2 (55:37):
Free thank. You, well then why are you always asking
me for a? Ten? Oh, well that's that's a different.
Issue well we'll talk of. Here i'm, sorry my. BAD
i didn't mean to bring that. Up all, right, Thanks,
brian appreciate. It we'll talk to you down the.

Speaker 1 (55:48):
Road, Shit all, right there you, Go brian Mctiger, Actually
i'll talk to him tomorrow as no one. Won't actually
it will be The adams with him. Tomorrow i'll be
on the postgame show tonight and Tomorrow astros in, action
game number three of a three game set against The
Pittsburgh pirates five point. Forty first pitch here On Sports
talk seven. Ninety quick break here On The Matt Thomas

(56:09):
show With. Ross we got coming up at eleven thirty
something in your life that you just don't. UNDERSTAND i
just don't get. It that's coming up at eleven. Thirty
keep it right. Here it Is The Matt Thomas show With.
Ross with you until two, pm eleven twenty in the
am here On Sports talk seven, Ninety Ross virrea with.

(56:29):
You we'll Have Let's See news at noon With Jonathan
allen is coming.

Speaker 2 (56:37):
Up that will be at.

Speaker 1 (56:38):
Noon of, course we also HAVE i just don't get
it coming up at eleven. Thirty thanks To brian McTaggart
doing a great job covering The strows as he always.
Does joins us every week On thursdays and he's On
astros On deck Every friday as, well so he'll be
on tomorrow with the. BOYS i think It's adam And,
adam probably both of. THEM i know one of, Them Adam,

(57:00):
clinton will be joining me at one. O'clock you can
also get in on the action at seven one three,
two one two five seven ninety seven one, three, two
one two five seven Ninety so yesterday mentioned and it's
kind of interesting to me where uh where The astros
are with the starting pitching depth or lack. THEREOF i,

(57:22):
mean you have guys you can throw out, there but
are they plus guys and not making a move in
the offseason and not shoring up some of the. DEPTH
i felt, like LIKE i, said there's a lot of
guys that you could assign to one or two year
deals for low money that are producing elsewhere in the.
Majors The astros financial resources limited if and he seems to,

(57:43):
be And Jim crane is trying to stay under the
luxury tax threshold and not be a repeat offender and
pay extra. Tax that's, okay that's. Fine it's a difficult
line to tow For Dana. Brown build up are farm,
system which is one of the worst in. Baseball, oh
by the, way keep us competitive at the major league,

(58:05):
level which means you've got to trade away some of those.
Prospects and, oh by the, way your financial resources while not.

Speaker 2 (58:11):
Limited Not.

Speaker 1 (58:11):
Jim, AGAIN i will always, say and then have been
consistent with, This Jim crane is not, cheap but, uh
It's it's, like rather than going for the the most
expensive penthouse high, risees he's like on the say of
seventh floor of a really nice. Building he will get
to a certain threshold that he's comfortable with spending and that's. Okay,

(58:32):
AGAIN i will, say he is not, cheap but doesn't
want to go spend with the likes of The yankees
And dodgers And mets and well who. Can for the most,
part The Pittsburgh pirates are, Cheap The Tampa Bay rays are.
Cheap The Oakland a's are. Cheap The Houston astros are
not cheap all? Right seven one three two one two
five seven ninety the phone. Number AS i, Mentioned Dana

(58:54):
brown a bit of a difficult situation for him from yesterday.
Now the first part of this is About Lance Colors,
junior how big he has been with the starting pitching.
Depth but the second part was about looking for starting
pitching and possibly making a. Deal Dana brown basically saying
they're not going to leave any stone.

Speaker 2 (59:12):
Unturned, Yeah lance has been.

Speaker 5 (59:15):
Outstanding you, know over the last five starts we've won you, know,
four he's with four and oh in his last five,
starts he's been thrown the ball very, well twenty nine
strikeouts and over twenty, innings right at twenty, innings and
so he's been really. Good i'm more on the record
always saying that we're always in the market for. Pitching we,

(59:36):
know one hundred and sixty two, games it's a very long.
Season so you always have to have some open mind
to acquire pitching because you know the fact that the
matter is the, season so, long things, happen guys get,
hurt and so you're always in The market's very, difficult
very early right, now not many teams or. Sellers it's
still early in the, process you. Know but we won't

(01:00:00):
Miss City stone on. Term you, know we won't leave
Any stone or in turn because you, know we're always
in the market for. Pitching so if there's something out
there that makes sense for, us we'll definitely be.

Speaker 1 (01:00:11):
Active all, Right so something that makes, sense BUT i
just don't think it's gonna. Happen brian McTaggart saying as
much in the last segment it's it's you're On june
Your june fifth right. Now THE mlb trade deadline IS
i Believe july thirty, first so it kind of moves
around either somewhere around there depending on the. Day i'll

(01:00:31):
look it, up BUT i think It's july thirty, first
so you're basically a month in change from. That Spencer
arraghetti still has to completely build himself. Up you've been
Throwing Ryan gusto out. There you might think about going
to a six man, rotation or at least ideally you
would like, to but if you have the limited resources
of starting, pitching you can't do. That so, again, Thankfully
Lasta Colors junior has really been saving The, astros baking

(01:00:54):
the last couple of times.

Speaker 2 (01:00:55):
Out and it's a long, season one hundred and sixty two.

Speaker 1 (01:00:59):
Games you're gonna guys to step, up some of them
for a couple of, weeks some of them for a
couple of, months and some of them for them for
all year, long like in the case Of Hunter brown
and From. Barvaldez but, uh it's just interesting to me
to see how this will play out and What Dana
brown will continue to do and, HOPEFULLY i mean you
would just hope for for on field, improvement, right he'd
be nice If Ryan gusto just go out there and

(01:01:21):
give you six innings of one run. Ball but he
has not done, that and you continue to throw him
out there in a starter's, role and it's not like
he's completely getting shelled out. THERE i, mean he had
that real bad start Against Kansas City royals what bas
basically a month. Ago at this, point if you go
four and a, third give up three year in runs

(01:01:43):
and then the bullpen holds it down and you end
up in a nine inning game only giving up three
runs and A Ryan gusto, starts that's. Good you should
be able to win a game like. That you shouldn't
be getting getting shut out by a guy Named Mark
burrows who's made three major league. Appearances and we're sitting
here joking on these airwaves about this guy shutting down the,
lineup and then he actually goes out there and does.

(01:02:04):
It five and third of shutout, ball six, strikeouts and The, astros,
unfortunately which has kind of been a storyline in the
last couple of, years not coming through with runners in scoring.

Speaker 2 (01:02:16):
Position oher for four with runners in scoring.

Speaker 1 (01:02:19):
POSITION i think even in the, GAME i would have
to pull it up Against paul's schemes that they. WON
i think, there even though they won three to nothing
because mccullor was good and so was the, bullpen they
were bad with runers of scoring position in that.

Speaker 2 (01:02:33):
Game, YEAH i have.

Speaker 1 (01:02:34):
It they're zero for four in that game as. Well so,
thankfully the good news is you gotta split and you're
eight with runners in scoring position in the two. Games
and that's what we can continue to bring you with
These astros is that we say rockers not, hitting the
owner's not, hitting your run's been hurt two. Days numbers
have slid back from from last, year which which were

(01:02:55):
a backslide from the year, before and the pitching question
marks all over the.

Speaker 2 (01:02:59):
Place first, Place, yeah it's The.

Speaker 1 (01:03:01):
Winds A Week. Division yes they're. Fortunate yes they're, lucky for.
SURE i think it's is it three or four teams
ahead of them in The American, league four teams ahead
of them in The American, league thankfully none of them
in The Astros. Division if somehow you wad The Magic
wand and The Detroit tigers win The American League, west
you'd be seven games. Back we've been talking about, okay,
well hopefully you can get a wild card off of.

(01:03:24):
Somebody The, mariners who are half game back of, you
are in the last wildcard. Spot But royles raised js
all in that. Mix so good news is all these,
issues all these, problems everything we've been talking, about all
this fodder for The astros and they are in first,
place sixty one games another. Season you'd rather have that

(01:03:48):
than be elsewhere or be where they were last. Year
where this around the TIME i, think and maybe a
little bit later where things started to turn in the
right direction for The. Stros The mariners completely, collapsed and
then The bats finally got, going and then the team
did eventually go on to win The American League.

Speaker 2 (01:04:07):
West all, right.

Speaker 1 (01:04:07):
Time for a quick break here On The Matt Thomas
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(01:05:29):
jonathan and THEN i will let you. Go uh as you,
know we broke, well, okay we didn't break the, news
but we read the breaking news From Sam sharani a
couple of days, Ago New York knicks firing head Coach Tom.
Thibodeaux since, then there's been like a hundred news stories

(01:05:49):
about guys who are never going to be the head
coach of The New York knicks, never AND i just
don't like For, okay we kind of jokingly brought up
the run our test one that was just kind of, funny,
right but there was like. Denial people were, like, OH
i Think Jeff Van. Gundy he could be a candidate
for The New York knicks. Job maybe he would go,

(01:06:11):
there AND i don't. Know he doesn't like the Owner.
Dolan but he hasn't been a head coach anywhere since
he was The Houston rockets head. Coach NOW i know
he's been assistant with The, clippers so he's back in.
Basketball But i'm gonna tell you right, now there's no,
chance no, way no How Jeff Van gundy is the

(01:06:31):
next head coach of The New York. Knicks then there's
this other story ON, espn literally one of their top.
Headlines NOW i understand as a radio. Host it is
the beginning Of.

Speaker 2 (01:06:42):
June this is a slow time of.

Speaker 1 (01:06:43):
Year as you're already, Learning, Jonathan you're, Like, wow this
sports news. Sucks that's Why i'm making you do the
news at noon coming. Up but literally the number two
headline on ESPN's top, Headlines Rick bettino not interested in
Coaching knicks. Again, Really Rick, patino he's seventy two years.

Speaker 2 (01:07:02):
Old how is this a news?

Speaker 1 (01:07:05):
Story why is this being written and posted ON espn dot,
com which is supposed to be the number one news sources?
Sports no, way, no. Chance, no How Rick patino is
going to be the next.

Speaker 2 (01:07:23):
Coach he's seventy, two you might want to go out
of with a five year. Contract. Bang and after that he's,
like you can hit the buck he can hit the
bucket at that, point.

Speaker 1 (01:07:33):
Yeah, Okay LIKE i, mean who are, like, yeah let
me Guess Dac rivers is not going to be the.
COACH i don't know who's some like ninety Is Phil
jackson still? Alive let's, say let's get a statement From
Phil jackson that he's not going to be The knicks coach.
Either AND i Know patino Has New york, ties so
that makes sense, There but come, on, man we know
that he's not going to be the.

Speaker 2 (01:07:52):
Coach how is this a news? Story why is everyone
acting like?

Speaker 1 (01:07:56):
This New York knicks you make One East finals and
everyone's acting like this is the biggest news story in.
History and we're getting all these stories about guys Like Jeff,
Fan gunny And Rick patino being mentioned with The New York.

Speaker 2 (01:08:06):
KNICKS i just don't get. IT i just don't get a.
Ross you, KNOW i agree with, you okay with? You thank?

Speaker 5 (01:08:12):
You that was?

Speaker 2 (01:08:13):
Good The? Knicks oh my?

Speaker 1 (01:08:16):
God, Whatever Like jalen brunts and go fall down fifteen more.
Times all, Right, anyways what don't you, Get?

Speaker 4 (01:08:22):
Jonathan you, know there's something that's been sticking on my
head for a, while AND i was thinking of something
for the. SEGMENT i was, like you know, WHAT i
just don't get people that enjoy roller coasters and like
that drop fidling you get in your, stomach like you,
know all, Right i've grown.

Speaker 2 (01:08:38):
Up you. Know you go with your friends, like, oh
you got to ride the riots and they force you on.

Speaker 8 (01:08:42):
It.

Speaker 4 (01:08:42):
Right there's been times WHERE i get there And i'm
at the very top of BEFORE i get into the
cart AND i, LEAVE i just. DISAPPEAR i just don't
understand what's the thrill and what's the fun in. THAT
i don't understand when you go and pay this a
ton of, money you sit in hot heat for eighty
five to roughly ninety minutes just to sit, there and
you have thirty seconds of you're going to.

Speaker 2 (01:09:02):
Die and THEN i grew, up and so it doesn't make.
It it makes some.

Speaker 4 (01:09:06):
Words IS i grew up right over there with six
pikes oup In texas and it's called The Texas.

Speaker 2 (01:09:10):
Giant people are listening my, know like.

Speaker 4 (01:09:12):
WHEN i grew, up there was this bigger lady on
the news that went on there and it has a
sixty degree drop whatever from it kind of goes like
inwards when you.

Speaker 2 (01:09:21):
Go that's how like steep it.

Speaker 4 (01:09:23):
Is and she fell out of it and, died like
and it was closed down for like four, five like five,
years and they reopened it because it's all wining roller
coaster historical thing and may people stay still right.

Speaker 2 (01:09:34):
It SO i just don't nineteen, Yeah i'm looking it.

Speaker 1 (01:09:37):
Up twenty thirteen to a fifty two year old woman
A rosa died after falling from the.

Speaker 4 (01:09:42):
Crow, geez that was like, twenty said twenty. Twelve that
was like, Thirteen, yeah about to get in middle. School,
yeah like that was, peaked, like oh my, god like
and everybody wondered.

Speaker 2 (01:09:51):
College that's.

Speaker 1 (01:09:52):
FINE i will say THAT i am with you. Now
WHEN i was WHEN i was like ten years, old
we had Asher world here In, houston.

Speaker 2 (01:10:05):
AND i HAD.

Speaker 1 (01:10:07):
I THINK i had my twelfth birthday party at Asher.
World we used to get season passes in the. SUMMER
i loved. IT i thought it was. Great but AS
i got an, Adult i'm with. You i'm like this
seems like dangerous, now and anything in life you have
to take a risk, reward, Right, like it's probably it's
less safe being on The Houston highways than it is
being on the roller. Coast you're talking about one death
like ten years. Ago we've got hundreds of them in

(01:10:29):
those ten years on the. Freeway so it's safer in
a to an. Extent but also If i'm on the,
Highway i'm going POINT a to POINT. B it's SOMETHING
i need to. Do it's something necessary for me to
live my everyday. Life it is not necessary for me
to get on an old rickety wooden roller coaster where

(01:10:50):
even if there's a sentilla of a possibility of me
dying for, What i'm with. You BUT i will say
THAT i get it that some people it's the adrenaline.
Rush it's it's like it makes them feel. Alive but
they think it's like.

Speaker 2 (01:11:07):
DIVING i can't even get sky. Diving skydiving people. Do,
yeah that's the same. THING i can get, skydiving BUT i.

Speaker 4 (01:11:12):
Can't, well what's the difference to, you because skydiving you
at least go it with that, chance and you already
signed the paperwork that that's only just me unless you
get someone that's behind, you and that's even. Safer you
have someone that you know that has three different parachutes
to save. You you can, move you can do. Whatever
it's like your own, body like water slize THOSE i
don't get. THAT i don't get scared like water slize. Drop,

(01:11:33):
YEAH i don't, know, MAN i don't get.

Speaker 2 (01:11:34):
THAT i don't like.

Speaker 1 (01:11:35):
THAT i would say when you add in the fact
that the roller coasters first of, all are, there and
then in the thrill of, themselves which doesn't seem worth
it to, me you hear these stories about people dying and,
whatnot then you gotta you gotta go at cit imagine
that that. One that poor woman Rose, Yalla i'm, sorry
whatever her name. Was that poor. Woman she probably was
in line for an hour and a. Half she's, like,

(01:11:56):
man this line is, long but it's, not you, know.

Speaker 2 (01:12:01):
And then on like you was staying a.

Speaker 1 (01:12:03):
Line and then to do, it you add in the,
line you add in the, heat you add in the
possibility of.

Speaker 2 (01:12:08):
Death and Then i'm.

Speaker 4 (01:12:09):
Small i'm very small in stad, still and so every
TIME i went on a roller, coaster it spills Like
i'm slipping out And i've probably there's been Times i'm holding.

Speaker 1 (01:12:15):
Off oh my, GOSH i haven't had that. PROBLEM i
squished in there like a yeast. Roll so, YEAH i
ain't fallen. DOWN i might be bogging down the whole,
coaster But i'm gonna be all.

Speaker 2 (01:12:33):
Right so.

Speaker 1 (01:12:38):
All, right, anyways all right seven one three two one
two five seven ninety. Something you just don't Get, Anthony,
hey good.

Speaker 8 (01:12:47):
Morning. HEY i was calling to tell you spend to
keep our coach's name out of their. Mouth why would
he may leave the Young Calendar rockets for The knicks
who just fired their coach after making The Eastern Conference.

Speaker 2 (01:12:59):
FINAL i just don't get. It, Yeah i'm with, You.
ANTHONY i MEAN i get it in a.

Speaker 1 (01:13:04):
WAY i, mean, look it's ESPN's, Bristol, connecticut but it's
basically the hub Of New. York they, also of course
have offices IN la right, now it's big, market It's New.
York it's we own. Everything we're bigger than. You shut
j obomass. UP i THINK i said even, Yesterday New York,
knicks you haven't won a championship since nineteen seventy. Three
SINCE i don't know The buicks or what of The

(01:13:26):
Chevrolet celebrity or whatever it was in production And nixon
was getting. Impeached, yeah, no you're not gonna take The,
rockets head. COACH i get it because it is. No of,
COURSE i don't get why you. Mean doko would do it,
either and it's not gonna. Happen and Rufel stone and The,
Astros i'm excuse, Me rockets organization will hang up and
laugh in The knicks. Face the only reason for me

(01:13:49):
to SAY i get why they're talking about it is
because number, One Mark, stein a CREDIBLE nba, reporter floated
the name out basically just saying they're. Intrigued he didn't
say talks were, progressing he didn't say it was, happening
and just that The New York knicks brass is. Intrigued
was the word used By Chasing kidd And emi A. Doka,
well that's, fine I'man i'm intrigued By Jessica. Alba that

(01:14:13):
doesn't mean that that that's gonna.

Speaker 2 (01:14:14):
HAPPEN i don't think. THAT i don't think it's a.
Comparison why, not you're not. INTRIGUED i don't think that's.
GOOD i, mean it's just but.

Speaker 1 (01:14:25):
It just ain't gonna. Happen you can be intrigued by,
it just ain't gonna. Happen, shot you don't take you
know WHAT i APPRE i my your confidence in, Me
Johnath THEN i appreciate.

Speaker 5 (01:14:40):
That all.

Speaker 1 (01:14:41):
Right on that, note we're gonna take a. Break anything
you don't get you can still get in if you'd.
Like ACTUALLY i had, UH i had one more written,
down but that's. Okay we'll get to some other things
if you'd, like, though but we can also get TO
i just don't get. It phone lines open for you
right now seven one three two one two five seven
ninety on The Matt thomas sh With raws seven one

(01:15:01):
three two one two five seven and.

Speaker 2 (01:15:03):
Ninety we got the news at noon coming.

Speaker 1 (01:15:06):
Up we also Have Adam clanton coming up at one
o'clock and you at seven one three two one two
five seven. Ninety all, right, now you people are disturbing. Me,
YEAH i don't want to get in some kind of
wormhole about all. This and you know What I'm i'm
blaming you for, This. Jonathan we did the SEGMENT i

(01:15:29):
just don't get it last, segment and you were talking
about you just don't get it about roller coasters, which
by the, Way Matt thomas's. Son it was a bit
what is that big place In ohio Called Cedar, Rapids
Cedar rapids or something like.

Speaker 2 (01:15:44):
That all the people In kentucky love doing over there.

Speaker 1 (01:15:46):
House well really how far? Away Because Ohio kentucky are
like border, states, Right.

Speaker 4 (01:15:49):
Yeah but LIKE i was In Bowling, green it's like
a three hour drive people From Bulling. Green but Like
louisville and, stuff it's like hour, thirty like an hour. Thirty,
yeah go like anywhere In. Ohio really it's really close. By,
okay what it's. Called it's it's not A cedar's.

Speaker 1 (01:16:08):
Roller. Coaster i'm putting roller Coaster. Ohio see what it's
Called Cedar. Point, okay that's what it, Is yes, Point,
Yeah Cedar, Rapid Cedar, point same.

Speaker 2 (01:16:16):
Thing. Yeah there was a woman didn't like a screw
get loose or something like. That, yeah here we go
twenty twenty.

Speaker 1 (01:16:22):
Four a part of The Cedar point roller coaster fell
on her head in twenty twenty. One now the story
was from Twenty this story is from twenty twenty, four
but it happened in twenty twenty.

Speaker 2 (01:16:33):
One so, yeah and look, like, YEAH i know one
hundred of. Thousand thank.

Speaker 1 (01:16:38):
You see one hundred, thousand one hundreds of thousands of
peoples go through the gates and then we just hear
about this one story like every several. Years but, still,
man it's it doesn't seem worth.

Speaker 2 (01:16:48):
It, no that's not even.

Speaker 1 (01:16:48):
It the story sent to me by this by our
Listener sam appreciate him, listening was about a boy In
Kansas city decapitated on a water.

Speaker 2 (01:17:01):
A water. Slide, wait how does?

Speaker 1 (01:17:05):
That?

Speaker 2 (01:17:06):
Even this is?

Speaker 1 (01:17:07):
Depressing was it going to it was one of those big.
ONES i don't know this from twenty. NINETEEN i think
that the. Ride, yeah the incident happened in twenty. Sixteen
then the guy who designed the water slide was charged
with involuntary, manslaughter AND i think eventually the charges were.

Speaker 2 (01:17:22):
Dropped so how can.

Speaker 1 (01:17:24):
You, yeah it was from A schlitterbahn water park In Kansas, City.
Kansas so you know, What please please stop sending me
stories of people getting injured at water parks or with
roller coasters or anything like. This you didn't BELIEVE i
didn't SAY i didn't believe your point Because i'm with,
you and LIKE i, said WHEN i WHEN i was
like twelve years, old and YOU i Think astro was

(01:17:46):
what what year were you? Born asher was probably closed
by the. TIME i, mean you're where where is The
this is not even showing, Up but this is how
old it. Is Astra world is not even been showing
up On wikipedia right. Now, NO i don't want A
Travis scott's Album i'm talking, about that's. ALL i can't

(01:18:07):
think of the people getting injured getting trampled at Astral. World,
okay it Closed october, thirtieth two thousand and. Five you
were born when, now oh, TWO i was? Three, okay so,
yeah when you were three years, old they didn't put
you on The texas. Cyclone, NO i guess. Not all, Right, yeah,
well let me let me paint you a. Picture tell

(01:18:27):
you a, Story. Jonathan when you were a kid and
you were in The houston area and it was summer
in the, eighties nineties and early two, thousands you went
To Asherold it's what you. Did it was hot as
all get. Out they had that like the theater THAT
i forget what it was, called that smelled like, sweat
and you'd go you'd go in there as well to

(01:18:49):
really because it had air. Conditioning you'd be like they'd
be running like a five minute video of. Whatever would
it be a roller coaster or something. Else you'd go in,
there it'd be air conditioning and you'd go there to
clear to cool. Off then you go ride as many
as rides as you. Could you'd have to try to
figure it, out, Like, okay this line's going to be an,
hour SO i gotta. Go Batman escape had a long.
Line they would they would add basically a ride every single.

(01:19:12):
Year it seemed like where every couple of. Years and
you'd go and go in the, summer and that's what you.
Do your parents would dropping you. Off you're, like thank,
god we're going to get them out of our hair
for a little. While and it was over there where
THE Nrg stadium. Is SO i loved going there WHEN
i was a. Kid But i'm with. You AS i grew,
Up i'm, like hearing about these. Injuries Maybe i'm being too,
paranoid but it's just at at boy point where is

(01:19:34):
this worth the?

Speaker 2 (01:19:36):
Risk So i'm with, you and now all these, people thank,
you thank, you thank.

Speaker 1 (01:19:41):
You this MISS i need these people to stop sending
me these stories about, decapitations injuries and all these, horrific
horrible things that are happening to these poor people who
are visiting these these amusement parks BECAUSE i don't want
to get, there and.

Speaker 2 (01:19:54):
You know, what BUT i, do so you would go
skydiving though, NO.

Speaker 1 (01:19:58):
I, SAID i get sky diving more THAN i. Do
people like that like roller. COASTERS i don't. Know it
feels like about the same. Thing it's thrill seeking with
the possible. Injury ALTHOUGH i guess what are the real
dangers in? Skydiving your parentship doesn't, work but you have
like four it's you, know, like all, right can you
hit a flock of? Birds can you be taken out

(01:20:20):
by like a bald? Eagle how does that work when
you're up?

Speaker 5 (01:20:22):
There?

Speaker 4 (01:20:24):
Good especially the people that do sky diving with a
whole other person on top of, Them, like how do
you not feel safe with?

Speaker 2 (01:20:28):
That you, Know i'll give you AND i just don't get.

Speaker 1 (01:20:30):
It the the air, Skydiving, okay all, right now it's
like you just go up there and they blast a
bunch of fans on.

Speaker 2 (01:20:38):
You now that looks dangerous to be that's.

Speaker 1 (01:20:40):
Dangerous now you're in a little earlier like it's almost
like you're.

Speaker 4 (01:20:43):
In a uc, octagon they turn off the fans or
like they mess, Up like when you mess, up you
gotta control yourself in the air like you do and
then you swim like.

Speaker 2 (01:20:50):
Float like, yeah you gotta float. Correctly but it's like
all that court muscle lucky. Sports that's a good athlete. Sport,
YEAH i.

Speaker 1 (01:20:57):
Guess, oh you want to see professional indoor skydive is
what you want to?

Speaker 2 (01:21:00):
SEE i know what it looks. Like it's. Nothing it's nothing, crazy. Honestly.

Speaker 1 (01:21:05):
YEAH i, Mean i'm just looking at these places and
they have really High google, reviews but that that's AND
i just don't get it for. Me does it feel
like you're? Floating does it feel like you're? Skydiving is
it the same thing.

Speaker 2 (01:21:17):
Trained too before they act you skydive as? WELL i don't.
Know don't call me on. That one hundred dollars one
hundred dollars to go get a bunch of fans blasting you,
mm because it to me it.

Speaker 1 (01:21:29):
Doesn't does it feel like you're falling or does it
feel like you're getting pushed? Up you, KNOW i would
like somebody to call. It, okay call us or tweet
at SPORTS rv if you would like and Now i'm
trying to figure out what The oh, no here we. Go,
oh there's there's a documentary on people getting. Injured it's
called Class Action Park explores The truth Behind New. Jersey,

(01:21:54):
OH i did see. THAT i think the dangerous. Amusement,
Hey joe said this to. Me have you ever it's
called Class Action. Park it's about Uh Action park In New,
JERSEY i think where there were basically no regulations and
the owner was crazy and people were getting hurt in the,

(01:22:15):
eighties and these counselors and people that were running it
had no idea about. Safety everything was cheaply. Made people
were getting. HURT i, mean, yeah that was.

Speaker 2 (01:22:25):
Horrible that was. Horrifying, joe thank you for sending. That
BUT i had seen.

Speaker 4 (01:22:29):
It people could just make roller coastere parks like that
back in the. Day you just tossed one.

Speaker 1 (01:22:35):
Up they just weren't the, REGULATIONS i. Guess but, yeah
this was a. Disaster, yeah if you ever watched, that
it was pretty. Crazy it was unbelievable what was going.
On it's Called, Yeah Action park was the name of the.
Park open in nineteen seventy. EIGHT i don't know when
it was forced, closed but it was a. Disaster, absolutely

(01:22:57):
we came going became Nicknamed Tracks, Park Accident, park Class Action,
park which is what THE i believe THE uh documentary was.
Called All, right there you, go very. Unsettling. Geez all, right,
anyways all, right that's enough for roller coaster. Disasters we're
gonna get to the top sports news items of the
day coming up here On Sports talk seven ninety it

(01:23:18):
Is ross Via Real Jonathan.

Speaker 2 (01:23:20):
Allen it's Not Matt.

Speaker 1 (01:23:21):
Thomas Jonathan allen is gonna bring us the top sports
news items of the. Day we also Got Adam clinton
joining at one. O'clock you guys want to get in
you can seven one three two one two five seven
ninety seven one three two one two five seven ninety
twelve oh one name h Down here On Sports talk
seven ninety it is The Matt Thomas show With Ross

(01:23:45):
Without Matt.

Speaker 2 (01:23:46):
Thomas he is out, today he will be back.

Speaker 1 (01:23:49):
Tomorrow you've got The astros in action, tonight five point
forty first pitch here on A Sports talk seven. Ninety
Adam clinton coming up at one, o'clock and right now
we have One Jonathan. Allen hopefully there is no news
about roller coaster injuries coming up in this he is
going to bring us.

Speaker 2 (01:24:08):
The news at. Noon thank, You.

Speaker 4 (01:24:14):
Ross my name Is Jonathan. Allen you, see this guy
is so, rude mostly a mess up on. Air i'm
never gonna do.

Speaker 2 (01:24:20):
It my name IS.

Speaker 4 (01:24:22):
Jk And i'm here for your latest sports news of
today or what we can get. To if you're living
under the rock and you haven't checked out what's gone
on last night With astros offense is still struggling and
there got shut out and so this is.

Speaker 2 (01:24:35):
You, know you just apt, this just accept.

Speaker 12 (01:24:39):
It oh, OH i thought you were gonna play a
highlight air throws to first in time and the side is.
Retired astros had a lead off double By. Pena they
had first and second and one, out but they come
up in Chap.

Speaker 5 (01:24:53):
Just.

Speaker 1 (01:24:53):
GREAT i, mean My Mike, burrows did you hear? You
hear us multiple times, Yesterday, jonathan we were. Joking, yeah
The ashros just Beat Paul. Skian So Mike, burrows the
guy who's got two starts under his belt this, year
like three major league appearances in, total he's gonna throw
like six shutout against The, astros and well he threw

(01:25:13):
five and a third.

Speaker 4 (01:25:14):
Shutout, yeah and it's kind of ironic that we beat
them three oh, yesterday and we're, like, oh, yeah number
one on the spot aos and then.

Speaker 1 (01:25:21):
Yeah, well thankfully The mariner's, loss because The mariners aren't
very good and The American League west isn't very. Good
The pirates are. Terrible Poor Paul, skins he's he's. Got
he went eight innings of one run ball and lost
the game because he gave up one mistake To Christian, walker,
who by the, way went oh for. Four talked about
With brian McTaggert early in the Show Chris cordy as,

(01:25:43):
well where are we at On Christian?

Speaker 2 (01:25:45):
Walker we keep.

Speaker 1 (01:25:46):
Waiting there continues to be sometimes a semblance of a
sign of life for. Him where get a couple of
hits here and, there but oh for four with three strikeouts,
yesterday hitting two to eight with a six thirty four.
Ops that is not acceptable for a first baseman that

(01:26:06):
was signed here to mash thirty. Homers he's still played
very well, defensively so he does have value for The astros.
There even if we're talking about, yeah he's got us
longing for the days Of Jose brew And John, Singleton,
well he's far superior to. Them, defensively but it's also
not a premium defensive. Position you're supposed to be in first.
Base you're not supposed to be A globe first. Guy

(01:26:28):
you're supposed to be mashing homers in not hitting two oh.
Eight and that's What Christian walker is. Doing that's really
bad for The. Astros right, now what else you, got Mister?

Speaker 4 (01:26:37):
Allen gonna bring it over BECAUSE i know we don't
really have talked ABOUT nba anymore after what happened around,
here but it's today is THE Nba, Finals game one
with in The pasos versus The Oklahoma City, thunder AND
i just want to bring up That East men has
The Oklahoma city that is sixty five percent over paces

(01:26:58):
is game.

Speaker 2 (01:26:59):
ONE i think that's. ABSURD i think that's actually. Crazy
and as you guys, KNOW i did predict the bass going.

Speaker 1 (01:27:07):
THERE i got to you got pacers in, seven, right,
PACES i got pacers in six oh pacers and six.
SIX i will kind of, hurt but you, know to
be the news, PROFESSIONAL i am just gonna say the
stats out here AND i must have sayd on THE Nba,
finals BUT i just wanted to set that out, There,
Okay and moving into, Well Oklahoma city nine and a

(01:27:27):
half point favorites. Tonight how much are you Gonna are
you planning to watch the whole game.

Speaker 2 (01:27:31):
Tonight the first? Game, yes, Yes i'll gladys watch the
game one of the.

Speaker 1 (01:27:35):
Series every TIME i put A twitter poll up on My,
twitter you can find it at SPORTS rv if you'd
like to follow, ME i would appreciate. It interest level
in THE Nba, FINALS i put all, IN i put some,
INTEREST i put no. Interest ten percent of the voters
right now all in forty six percent some. Interest so,

(01:27:57):
okay you got fifty seven percent with some interest and
in forty three percent absolutely no, interest according to my
very Informal twitter poll At SPORTS.

Speaker 4 (01:28:07):
Rv So, matt Because matt was, here he was saying
that this is gonna be like one of the worst.

Speaker 1 (01:28:12):
Watch, YEAH i mean, look if you think about, it
on his, face Look laker like the highest possible rated
probably would be Like Lakers nicks the lowest possible rated
of teams where it's actually.

Speaker 2 (01:28:24):
Viable this may be.

Speaker 1 (01:28:25):
It there's only twenty eight markets in THE nba because
you got doubled markets In New york and doubled markets IN.
La so it's only twenty, yeah because two teams, each
so only twenty eight markets.

Speaker 2 (01:28:36):
Overall what was?

Speaker 1 (01:28:37):
It it was twenty second For indiana AND i think
twenty sixth for The Oklahoma City.

Speaker 2 (01:28:41):
Thunder BUT.

Speaker 1 (01:28:43):
I think this is actually good for the long term
health of THE nba because when The thunder were really
good With Kevin, Durant Russell, Westbrook James, harden they were
making the, finals they had this, team and they're trying
to make them national Superstar Shake Gildas alexander's been on
a number of commercials trying to build up his brand
in twenty two twenty. Five you don't necessarily need the
big money markets to carry all the weight for. You

(01:29:08):
it happens in THE, nfl, where for, Example Kansas city
is probably not necessarily the big long term brand that
maybe THE i don't, know The, eagles who are the
Reigning Super bowl champions are or whoever at The Dallas
cowboys of course get big ratings every single, year BUT i,
mean if It's baltimore In Kansas, city you're gonna tune.

(01:29:31):
In those aren't huge game breaking media. Markets but it's
because It' Lamar Jackson's Pat. Mahomes they do a very
good job of marketing. Stars so THE nba needs to
have a situation like this where you can Showcase Pascal
siakam And Tyrese halliburton And Shay, Gilgess alexander And Ched
Holmgren AND i know it sounds funny to say showcasing those,

(01:29:52):
players but you got to build out the stars, somehow
because right now THE nba. Dying THE nba stars are
dying out right, now and then That Steph curry's Bron
James Kevin, durant these guys are gonna be around five,
Years Jack, Ouch alexander is.

Speaker 2 (01:30:05):
AND i.

Speaker 4 (01:30:06):
Don't AND nfl does so much better showing showcasing their
different players and getting different fan bases for different players
and getting more.

Speaker 2 (01:30:14):
LIKE nba necessarily.

Speaker 4 (01:30:16):
DOESN'T i don't even, Know LIKE i Know sakam AND
i know all of, them BUT i didn't even know
he was gonna win THE. Mvp IF i, didn't even
IF i hadn't sat and watched the.

Speaker 2 (01:30:24):
Games, yeah no one's gonna know.

Speaker 4 (01:30:26):
That no one's gonna he's not bringing anybody like, that
catering to their smaller. AUDIENCES i feel like that's as
well As adam Silver. Spot but you know that's a
whole numbers.

Speaker 1 (01:30:33):
Stay, yeah they do have a, problem certainly WITH i
mean the state of the game and people get upset
and the foul hunting OF sga And Jalen brunson and
other guys and stuff like. That but guess, what the
NBA's THE nfl is not a perfect product. Either what
do we do every? Year we get all, excited we
got our fantasy teams or ready to. Go it's Like week,
one and then the game starts and then there's like

(01:30:53):
six flags on the first five plays for every illegal
procedure and all this weird convoluted.

Speaker 2 (01:31:00):
Stuff the state of THE nfl isn't what it once was.

Speaker 1 (01:31:03):
Either but they do a really good job of, marketing
really good job of making stars and making it feel,
Big and of course they have the baked in advantage
of every game mattering that much more because it is
such a shortened. Season you kind of dilute the product
in a way when you end up with eighty TWO
nba games in a regular season one hundred and sixty
two In Major League. Baseball BUT i think in terms

(01:31:24):
of marketing their stars and building up, guys THE nba
lags behind both Major League baseball and THE. NFL i, Agree,
ross all, right what else is on the news at,
noon Mister? Allen you'd tell, me Mister, longhorn BECAUSE i
know a, beautiful beautiful walk off by her and the
APPARENTLY i didn't really see the.

Speaker 2 (01:31:44):
Video i'm just we.

Speaker 1 (01:31:44):
Don't want to walk, off but go. Ahead she tried
to intensively was a, Rally she's.

Speaker 4 (01:31:48):
Not she tried to intensively walk her before and take
a chance on that and got that and got that.

Speaker 1 (01:31:53):
Two it was a two, run, two two to one,
Victory no two to one in. Victory BUT i think
she got an argument that. Hit oh you're talking about
the the game the go? Ahead, Yes american Catcher Reese, Atwood, well.

Speaker 2 (01:32:05):
Look at this. Guy we call you mister softball here
bring us.

Speaker 4 (01:32:08):
Hey i'm just A TEXAS i Saw texas's doing good this.
Year had, to you, know give him some little spotlight. Today,
YES i appreciate.

Speaker 1 (01:32:17):
That, yes they're Playing Texas tech and The Red, raiders
and thankfully the curse has been. Broken oklahoma's basically been
winning it every, YEAR i think the last five, years
Torturing texas and a couple of those, victories but one
win away it's the best of three. Series right one
win away are The Texas longhorns from The Women's College

(01:32:39):
World series, victory and that would be great for.

Speaker 2 (01:32:42):
THEM i, mean it'd be.

Speaker 10 (01:32:45):
Fine it's.

Speaker 2 (01:32:45):
Time i'd rather they win in. Football but you're getting.

Speaker 1 (01:32:48):
Closer some people people are Calling longhorns national championship. Favorites
but we'll see With Arch manning and how good he
actually is this year for The Texas longhorns football. Team
So i'm gonna give you the next, Story, jonathan BECAUSE
i told YOU i would send you, one and THEN
i forgot because we were talking ABOUT i got all
rattled by talking about roller coasters AND i was.

Speaker 2 (01:33:09):
Scared.

Speaker 1 (01:33:10):
YEAH i do do this to you all the. Time
i'm very scatter. Brain you learned that a long time.
Ago Uh SO i was gonna send you this. Story
did you see This Livvy dune stalker story that's going. On,
Look Livy dunn, is let's be, honest she's, strict she's
attractive and famous and, young and she's also With Paul

(01:33:30):
skeins good for her.

Speaker 2 (01:33:33):
Saucy or she is like an, Influencer yeah she.

Speaker 8 (01:33:36):
Was she is a.

Speaker 1 (01:33:37):
Gymnast you don't even know who she is at all
all your girls. Listening you're playing. DUMB i got. YOU
i know you're trying to act like you. Haven't, oh
you haven't liked any of her pictures On. Instagram that's. Right,
okay you're not following her on the. Burner sure you're. Not, yeah,
HUH i see, You. Jonathan, yeah that's. Smart, honestly you're
playing it very. WELL i do a tip of the

(01:33:57):
cap to you for. That, Okay Livy. Dune apparently it's
getting stuck by a bunch of middle aged.

Speaker 2 (01:34:05):
MEN i fear That i'm being, stalked AND i don't
know what to.

Speaker 10 (01:34:08):
Do it's got to the point every single TIME i
go to the, airport there's a group of at least
ten middle aged men waiting for, me and they harass.
Me it's these men that want my. Autograph they have
like a stack of forty pictures of me or my,
magazines and they will run after me down THE tsa
pre check line and yell at me IF i don't
give them my. Autograph it's, insane but they will yell

(01:34:31):
at me and like make a, scene and the people
around me are, scared like it's.

Speaker 2 (01:34:36):
Crazy. Polskians you got you some, MAN i don't know
to go with.

Speaker 1 (01:34:43):
Her, dude he's like six sixty and you know he's got.
Hands you know, why if you throw one hundred miles an,
hour that means you've got fast switch muscle. Fibers that
means you can throw some. Hands paulskians can do. It, yeah,
YEAH i just said six six.

Speaker 2 (01:34:59):
Fifty, OH i don't even hear.

Speaker 5 (01:35:00):
YOU i.

Speaker 2 (01:35:01):
Know it's. Fine you're in your old. World you're doing
your own show back.

Speaker 1 (01:35:03):
THERE i appreciate, That, Jonathan but how about The she,
said like there's ten dudes everywhere she. Flies they're harassing
her and trying to get her. Autographs this is. Insane
you people gotta grow. Up you gotta go. Outside number,
one you gotta touch. Grass number. Two get yourself a. Woman,

(01:35:23):
okay go to the, bars go get on the, day
do anything you.

Speaker 2 (01:35:27):
Can go.

Speaker 1 (01:35:28):
Outside stop. FOLLOWING i don't mean go outside to go
to the airport and Harass. Livy done AT tsa pre check.
Nuts she, said ten dudes are doing this every time
she gets on a. Flight how are they? Fined so
you got a mole inside of inside Of Southwest airlines or,

(01:35:49):
something and you can see when she's booking flights and
you're going and finding her and then tracking her down
at the at the. Airport you people are. Sick what
is going? On what's going on in society? Today this is,
insane makes no sense at, All and that's good news at.
NOON i guess you're very disappointing news at. Noon you know,

(01:36:12):
What i'd rather go back to hearing about people getting
decapitated on water. Socks they're gonna, say, No i'm just.
Kidding please don't, No i'm. Kidding please do. Not thank
you appreciate it if you. Didn't, okay we're gonna take
quick break.

Speaker 2 (01:36:22):
Here that is the news at.

Speaker 1 (01:36:23):
Noon we've Got Adam clinton coming up at one. O'clock
that means the next few segments it's just me and
you can be my co host for a couple of
minutes if you want to call. In we've been talking About.
Astros how long Is Ryan gusto going to continue to
be in the? Rotation Christian? Walker is this just who he?
Is and The astros are cursed when it comes to
signing free agent first, Basement but all the issues we've talked,

(01:36:44):
about they are still in first place in The. West
we can talk about The rockets and their. Offseason if
you want to get into That ota stuff with The.
Texans anything you want to get, To phone lines open
seven to one three two one two five seven ninety
seven one three two one two seven nineties twelve but
twenty in THE pm here On Sports talk seven Ninety

(01:37:07):
Matt Thomas show With Ross, No Matt. Thomas it'll be back.
Tomorrow Adam clinton coming to hang out in a little.
Bit you guys can get in if you'd, like cause
it's just me flying, solo, well with some help from
our good. Friend we call him The Decapitator Jonathan allen. Here,
okay we won't call you the. DECAPITATOR i guess we.
Wont he's hanging out as. Well you guys can get.
In phone lines are wide open for you right now

(01:37:29):
seven one three two one two five seven ninety if
you would like to get in seven one three two
one two five seven ninety anything you would like to
get TO Nba Finals tipping off Tonight Oklahoma city Versus.
Indianapolis and, yes that sounds like an uninteresting matchup on its,

(01:37:50):
face not the way THAT abc planned it. Out, probably
AS i said, EARLIER i think if they were trying
to make the, maximum you would just go With New
york AND la since both those teams were solid, enough
and then you have the star Power Luca Donchon. Nolan
but they weren't good. Enough they were the three, seed The.
Lakers nicks were the three seed as, well And lakers
were out what in the first. ROUND i put them

(01:38:12):
On fraddler by the, way basically you remember, this thank.

Speaker 2 (01:38:16):
YOU i put them On. Fraudler basically the entire. Time
they were a.

Speaker 1 (01:38:19):
Fraud they were out in the first. Round but THEN
i guess that means The rockets were a. Fraud but
we're not.

Speaker 2 (01:38:23):
Gonna say that because they've fought for seven, games couldn't
get it. DONE i don't want to talk about that.

Speaker 1 (01:38:29):
Anymore but if THE nba were planning out of the,
yeah they'd probably go With New york AND la or
something like. That as as far as teams that are
viable and in the Playoffs Oklahoma city Versus, indianapolis probably.
Not but that's what you. Got they've earned. It they're good.
TEAMS i think it should be somewhat, fun BUT i just.

(01:38:50):
DON'T i think The pacers might be able to score
a little bit on The, thunder BUT i think The
thunder are gonna. Score it will on The, Pacers So
i'm predicting high scoring, games and that is reflected in
the total two hundred and.

Speaker 2 (01:39:05):
Thirty, dang that's basically they think it's going to be, like.

Speaker 1 (01:39:12):
What one twenty to one, ten, right that's two thirty
and they basically at nine and a half point favorites
are The Oklahoma City, Thunder so they think one twenty
to one ten that's pretty high scoring. Stuff so they
should get up and down the. FLOOR i, mean you
do Got Rick carlisle that they are The, pacers and
he's yelling pace at the team the entire, time trying
to get the trying to get their offense off as

(01:39:32):
quickly as. Possible so it should be at least somewhat,
entertaining even THOUGH i do think The Oklahoma City thunder
are going to win that bad boy in five. GAMES
i put up the poll on My twitter. Account what
is your level of? Interest ten percent all, in forty
six percent some, interest forty four percent no. Interest you
could vote on that at SPORTS rv mentioned the phone

(01:39:55):
number at seven one three two one two five seven.
Nighty we've also been talking a lot of ash Had
brian McTaggart on about an hour and a half, ago
and we've been mentioning about this as far as lineup
construction for The astros and WITH i mean the way
that it's come out the last couple of. Days, now
this of course is because there is a huge left

(01:40:16):
field AT p AND C, park and The astros while
they are of course trying to HIDE i, mean, look
there's no where to put it. HIDE l TWO a
defensively doesn't have the range that he once, was not
as athletic as he once, was and he's thirty five years,
old and you look at all the defensive. Metrics we
talked about it ad nauseum throughout the offseason that at

(01:40:38):
second base he's been one of the worst second basement in.
Baseball in left, field he's been. Okay he hasn't had
a whole lot of chances out there, either because they've
been mixing WITH, dh especially with The yordon, injury and
things get covered up with a guy Like Jake myers
who eats up a lot of ground out there to
where Al twov doesn't have to do as.

Speaker 2 (01:40:56):
Much and then normally they've been putting it in the.

Speaker 1 (01:40:58):
Left, field especially At Dykin, park which of course we
know it's a short porch over there to The crawford.

Speaker 2 (01:41:03):
Boxes but just looking at the.

Speaker 1 (01:41:05):
Lineup it almost it feels right on its face because
we're used to Having jose Al tuvy at second. Base
so when you look at the line up yesterday and
It's altuve at, second then your outfield Is Jacob, melton very,
athletic covers a lot of, ground plays well. Defensively Jake,
myers we know what he can do out. There he
was A Gold club finalist last. YEAR i would expect

(01:41:26):
the same this year if he gets the enough. Opportunities
and Then Cam, smith who learning on the, fly And
Ry field he's been, spectacular like he's got a good
arm out, there great, range gets good. Jumps athletic as,
Well so you have a really three great athletes out
there in the. Outfield With jose Al tuve at second,
base it makes. Sense but before the game, Yesterday joe

(01:41:48):
spot is saying, nope he's planning to keep it basically
the way that they had where mostly he's out in left,
field some designated, hitting some second.

Speaker 2 (01:41:57):
Base so that makes me wonder who gets.

Speaker 1 (01:42:00):
Squeezed if al TWO a is gonna be out there
in left field when they go to smaller ballparks and
when they come home To dike And, park If Jacob
melton is long for the major league, level he's their
number two.

Speaker 2 (01:42:11):
Prospect the time was.

Speaker 1 (01:42:12):
Right you had a couple of, injuries which has McCormick
And Zach dezenzo going down and those, guys and you
got to figure something. Out and not like he had
been lighting the world on fire and was injured to
start the, season but you gotta put him out there
and see what. Happens SO i wonder what the long
term plan is for Keeping Jacob melton out, there and

(01:42:34):
how MANY a b's is he going to be able to,
get especially as a left handed. Hitter astro's in desperate
need of a lefty. Bat it's not like it's it's
a great bat With Jacob. Melton so, far he's got
the one infield single and he's got five strikeouts and
EIGHT a. B's did show some good patients and had
a couple of good AB's Against Paul, skeins so that was,

(01:42:54):
encouraging but oh for three to three strikeouts yesterday less.
Encouraging and it's gonna be a lot of curve. Like
this is literally his first taste of the major. Leagues
so where do things shake out from? Here that's just
another storyline kind of mid season That i'm gonna be
keeping an eye on when it comes to The, astros
and it's gonna be lineup construction With joe SPOT i trust.

(01:43:16):
HIM i am not one of those. Guys AND i
know it's basically everybody On. Twitter Anytime Joe spotta puts
any kind of lineup out, there this is.

Speaker 2 (01:43:24):
Idiotic he needs to do, This he needs to do. That,
No i'm not doing.

Speaker 1 (01:43:28):
That he's got the, numbers he's talking to the. Players
he knows who's rested and healthy and where guys want
to be and where they're. Comfortable and that's all. Fine
and at the end of the, day it doesn't really
matter whoever's out there has to. Produce you Have Jacob
melton on the left field And altuve in second, base
or if you Get altuve in left field and whoever
Du bond Or Brendan rodgers at the second, base these
guys are major. Leaguers they're on the major league. Roster

(01:43:49):
this is how the team was. Built and they have
to produce and if they, don't, oh you kind of
end up what you did last night where you're getting shut.

Speaker 8 (01:43:56):
Out so.

Speaker 1 (01:43:58):
A wayne, defense offense and all that type of. STUFF
i think it is important to this in an, organization
especially in their, heyday starting With Jeff luno building this,
team there was a huge emphasis on defense and how
important it is and how much it does. Matter SO
i do think we will, see And joe spot has
said as much more of Al tuove out back out

(01:44:21):
in left, field even though it feels natural to kind
of just look at the lineup card see him at
second base and See, Melton Meyers smith out. There azure
outfielders and the defense matters. There of, Course Jacob, melton
even as a young pup of a major leaguer that he,
is is a better outfielder than What jose Al tuove
can provide out.

Speaker 2 (01:44:41):
There but we'll see how it continues going.

Speaker 1 (01:44:43):
Forward astros again in action, tonight game number three of
the three game set against The Pittsburgh, pirates going for
another series win Fromer valdez on the hill Against Mitch.
Keller who's how about this guy we talked About Paul
skeens his era is like two ozero six or two
oh five or whatever it, is and he's got a losing.
Record Mitch keller doesn't have a terrible r three point seventy.

(01:45:05):
Three it's all, right, dudes one in seven on the season.

Speaker 8 (01:45:12):
All.

Speaker 1 (01:45:12):
Higher pirate's gonna. Pirate they they have a they are.
Horrible they're gonna they're they're Running Paul skins into the.

Speaker 2 (01:45:20):
Ground was that cool? Jerseys?

Speaker 1 (01:45:21):
Though cool, Jerseys But i'm gonna say The i'm gonna
peg them maybe as the most forgettable team in, Baseball
maybe The Miami marlins who've lost four in a row
and got swept by The Colorado. Rockies how you should
fold up your franchise if you get swept by The.
Rockies all, right time for a quick break here on
The Matt Thomas show With. Ross you want to get

(01:45:42):
In do you want to see Jose l Two vay
sticking more at second base or do you understand they
are done with doing that consistently because of his. Offense
we also been talking About Ryan gusto and the rotation
possible moves being made. There anything you guys want to
get to in GENERAL nba? Finals your interest level are
you all. In are you gonna casually watch see the
first couple of? Games if It's Oklahoma city thunder, Blowouts

(01:46:04):
i'm out anything you want to talk. About seven one
three two one two five seven ninety seven one three
two one two five seven.

Speaker 2 (01:46:12):
NIGHT i hope wherever Little john is he's having a great.
Day prob's. Discreement, okay.

Speaker 8 (01:46:27):
Yea.

Speaker 2 (01:46:28):
Yea do you want fries or on your? Rings?

Speaker 8 (01:46:30):
Yeah?

Speaker 2 (01:46:31):
Yeah does that mean? Both, Huh i'm a little, confused Mister.

Speaker 1 (01:46:33):
John all, right welcome back to The matt Tom show
With ross Ros virial with you until two. O'clock Adam
klann joining at one. O'clock phone lines open for you
if you'd like to get. In it's seven one three
two one two five seven ninety seven one three two
one two five seven ninety coming up in the next
second full a, segment Full french open breakdown From Jonathan.

(01:46:56):
Allen So i'm looking forward to. That he's our official
tennis expert and he'll let us know what's happening On
Roland garrels AS i mentioned seven one three seven ninety
can also, Okay, ray maybe it's not. Happening tweets to
At SPORTS rv as well a couple of. Them let's,
See joe, Says i'll watch some of THE Nba finals,

(01:47:17):
otherwise don't. Care, okay see in five gentlemen. Sweep that's
what it's feeling like for me as.

Speaker 2 (01:47:22):
WELL i, MEAN i like The. Pacers, look the good.

Speaker 1 (01:47:24):
News the good news is For pacers, backers like our
good friend Mister allen, here is that they've exceeded expectations
and taken other teams by surprise and basically every series
that they've been in so far.

Speaker 2 (01:47:40):
So as the only team with THE nba championship.

Speaker 1 (01:47:44):
Experience, Okay i'm, Saying i'm just all, right who's just, saying,
well we'll see how it. Goes they took out The,
bucks who also Had dane loaded ripped his achilles in that.
Series The, cavaliers, well you know, what The cavaliers also
had a lot of ankle injuries in that.

Speaker 2 (01:48:00):
Series jonathan just saying.

Speaker 1 (01:48:03):
The New York knicks were, healthy, right unless there's something
that's skipping my mind, there but they took out The,
knicks so All en route to THE Nba, finals where
they haven't made it since two thousand And you're, like
everybody's like, well they're just gonna get completely steamrolled by
The kobe And Shaq. Knicks and now it feels like

(01:48:24):
AND i think that was a sweep and they lost
in that, series and then everybody's, Like, oh they're just
gonna get completely steamrolled by The Oklahoma City. THUNDER i
think that will happen as, well but we shall. See
let's see a tweet From sam at SPORTS. Rv, well
he is At King tarot thirty four news report About

(01:48:46):
Livy dunn being stalked and the SPORTS mt is not
at work. Today, COINCIDENCE i think. Not, well come, on,
Man i'm not gonna put that On. Matt i'm not
gonna not put that On. Matt, no are we aware
of his? Whereabouts, no he is in The houston. AREA
i don't think he's chasing. IT i GUESS i feel,
like AM i gonna get flagged by THE fbi even

(01:49:07):
IF i look up where she? Lives i'm just curious because,
like are these guys stalking the same? Airport does she
live in a centralized? LOCATION i, MEAN i know she's
an influencer and. Fly does she live In pittsburgh With
Paul skeens and they just have like an insider.

Speaker 2 (01:49:23):
THERE i don't.

Speaker 1 (01:49:24):
KNOW i can't even BRING i started to type this
in the in the search, bar where Does Livy dunn?

Speaker 2 (01:49:31):
Live but that's gonna put me on a watch, List
SO i don't want to do. It i'm Not i'm doing.
It i'm doing.

Speaker 1 (01:49:37):
It you're, Right, yeah Maybe i'll just, WELL i imagine
he lives In, pittsburgh or at least he's got a condo.

Speaker 2 (01:49:42):
There So.

Speaker 1 (01:49:46):
I'm not gonna look up where she lives BECAUSE i
don't want to know about a watch. List BUT i
maybe she just lives In. Pittsburgh and then these these
random weirdos autograph whoors slash stalkers have some kind of
inside in for with The pittsburgh airport and they end
up over.

Speaker 2 (01:50:02):
THERE i don't.

Speaker 1 (01:50:03):
Know to my, Knowledge matt is not In. Pittsburgh he
is here In houston taking care of some family. Business
he will be back. Tomorrow let's see another tweet from
A joe hot. Take gonna get made fun of, this
but we can get from yourd. On, yeah you're gonna
get made fun of.

Speaker 2 (01:50:22):
That your dal. Tuove we appreciate, him we love. Him
he is getting a.

Speaker 1 (01:50:26):
Statue Josel tuvey is getting a, statue AND i wish
it would be the wagging finger that he got up
there after That yankees home run that everybody tried to
say he was. Cheating if it's him grabbing his jersey
and wagging his, finger that would be the biggest fu
to the to The yankees fan.

Speaker 4 (01:50:42):
Base so that's HOW i hope is. WELL i gotta
ask you BECAUSE i wasn't In houston when all the.
Cheating what side were y'all? On y'all were just, like,
no of course we, Won they're just mad or like to,
me it was it was a nuanced. Conversation it was
what The astros did was. Wrong they broke the, rules
but they also became the scape scape. Goat The yankees
broke the rules in twenty sixteen and twenty. Seventeen The

(01:51:05):
Red sox are the worst. Offenders they had The Apples
watch scandal in.

Speaker 1 (01:51:09):
Seventeen they had another scandal at eighteen With Alex korra
and with that GUY. Jt watkins or, whatever the video
guy getting let. Go they made him the fall. Guy
Alex korra got. FIRED Aj hitch got. Fired he didn't go.
Anywhere see you start up a be's nest, here which he.
Did johnathan the Freaking red SOX da had multiple scandals

(01:51:33):
where they had infractions AND i don't know if they
lost draft.

Speaker 2 (01:51:36):
Picks they were at least fined By Major League.

Speaker 1 (01:51:38):
Baseball and then they re hired that coach and they
have him back and he's there and nobody says a,
word and The ashers became this huge. Scapegoat there's also
reports in people talking about it was because of the
trash can Angle Apple one team had An Apple, watch
the other team had were banging on a trash, can

(01:51:59):
and that it became the. Story it took on its
life of its. Own it wasn't this huge brig heritage.
Brand you Had Rob manfred sealing up a letter to
try to protect The. Yankees they wanted to make The
astros a fall. Guy what they did was, Wrong what
they did was against the. Rules they got the, letter
the memo From Rob manfred saying, hey cut all this stuff,
out and The astros kept doing.

Speaker 2 (01:52:20):
It they tried to do it in the.

Speaker 1 (01:52:22):
Playoffs they were unsuccessful because the crowds were too, loud
so you couldn't hear trash can banging, anyways and they
could only do it at, home so they didn't do
it in the. Playoffs to, me The World Series championship
shouldn't have been had the trophy taken away or anything
like all that type of. Stuff astros became a fall.
Guy talks about The brewers possibly. CHEATING i think it,

(01:52:45):
was was It Eric kratz or was somebody talking about
The rockies doing it as? Well people mentioning The. Dodgers
Josh reddick is handed at that as well as those.
Teams like stealing signs at that point in the game
was very, widespread and it wasn't just The Houston astros doing,
it but they became the team that was made an example.

(01:53:06):
Of again what they did was, wrong it was against the,
rules but also they became the nationwide. Scapegoat and then
the buzzer thing in twenty nineteen was completely, fiction made
up by Jam boy and and he started a whole
media career based off of that that really vaulted him
into the, forefront investigating and making videos and, like oh

(01:53:27):
look look at. This look at this tape On Josh reddick's.
Shoulder is this a? Buzzer it was? Confetti oh oh
look at, this look at? This what is this On
Robinson chernos's. Beat it was an authentication. Sticker it was
like he got it authenticated because he had a home
run or. Whatever but he liked that, bat so he
kept using it and it was an authentication. Sticker oh

(01:53:50):
what's what's this wrinkle in Jose al Two vay's? Jersey,
yeah when you were running and you take a still,
photo there's gonna be folds and wrinkles in. Jerseys it
was ridiculous and he ran with all that it was
completely made, up and then he, Said, oh this guy's
confirming this On. Twitter it turned out to be some
random person's. Burner it was a one made up story

(01:54:11):
and everybody ran with it and they. Continued people still believe.

Speaker 2 (01:54:15):
This it's. CRAZY i brought it up because someone brought
up the other. Day it's like, that h what is that?
Quote is it The Winston churchill? Quote the.

Speaker 1 (01:54:26):
Lie gets around the world before the truth can get
its pants. On that's basically what. Happened it was a
completely made up. Thing in twenty. Nineteen they did not
cheat in nineteen or, eighteen they did even win The World,
series and they didn't win The World series in eighteen
and nineteen either it's a bunch Of yankee fan losers
trying to shore up reasons for their organization's. Shortcomings The

(01:54:50):
astros are your, Daddy they're better than. You you got
beat and you go back and look at that twenty
SEVENTEEN alcs where The astros won and seven that they
got you down By astros.

Speaker 2 (01:55:00):
Pitching they didn't score any.

Speaker 1 (01:55:02):
Runs astros could have scored like, one one or a
couple of runs in almost all of those games and
they would have.

Speaker 2 (01:55:08):
Won because The yankees bats were.

Speaker 1 (01:55:10):
Quiet they were getting shut down By Justin verlander and the,
boys SO i didn't want to hear. It and The
Alliance Collars junior breaking off twenty four straight. Curveballs suck, It.
Yankees so there you. Go i'm glad you asked me, That.
Jonathan now you got me. UPSET i need to take a,
break all. Right seven one three two one two five seven.
Ninety what WAS i about to get on? TOO i

(01:55:30):
was talking ABOUT i had Some astros. ANGLE i was
gonna get, two BUT i forgot. Uh seven one three
two one two five seven. Ninety if you'd like to get, in,
uh we got another segment coming up in this, hour
coming up at one O'clock Adam clinton will. Join we'll
have some fun with him as. Well you guys can get.
In we're with you until two. O'clock is The Matt
Thomas show With ross here On Sports talk seven.

Speaker 5 (01:55:52):
Ninety well four to nine in THE.

Speaker 1 (01:55:55):
Pm here On Sports talk seven. Ninety Will Adam clinton
be here at one. O'clock we'll play that game coming.
UP i can't even make fun of HIM i was supposed.
TO i, MEAN i will make fun of, him BUT
i also will just be a hypocrite on this. ONE
i was supposed to be here at nine o'clock yesterday For.
Dan matthews, like, yeah, man you come hang out for
an hour and ME i hang out With how are?

(01:56:15):
YOU i get a text from in nine oh, Nine i'm,
like oh, WAIT.

Speaker 2 (01:56:19):
I completely. Forgot so that's my BETTER i, KNOW i
am a you know, What i'm trying to be.

Speaker 1 (01:56:25):
Better i'm trying to be Better, dan Better, DAN i
would like. TO i have formally, apologized but try to be,
better try to be better in every aspect of my.

Speaker 2 (01:56:34):
Life so we'll. See Will Adam clanton be here at
the top of the.

Speaker 1 (01:56:39):
Segment you'll find out next coming up at one o'clock
here On Sports talk seven. Ninety he will hang out
with me in the one o'clock. Hour you guys still
have time to get in the whole time if you'd,
like we don't. Bite seven one three two one two,
five seven ninety is the phone number if you would
like to get. In seven one three two one two
five seven. Ninety and it has been a lot of.

(01:57:01):
Discourse we we were talking about THE Nba finals a
little bit earlier about all this small market. Teams small market.
TEAMS i, mean, yeah you can fixate on that all you,
want but you still have to build out these, stars
and they have to be. Wherever you can't just have
everything gravitate To New york IN. La it's The National Basketball,

(01:57:21):
association and if the markets are big enough for you
to have teams, there then they should be big enough
for them to possibly make THE Nba finals and be
good and be on a.

Speaker 2 (01:57:31):
SHOWCASE i keep going back.

Speaker 1 (01:57:35):
To like The Oklahoma City thunder were a huge deal
for years when it Was Kevin durant And Russell westbrook
and the big stars that you had. There Denver, Nuggets,
okay maybe the ratings aren't good, there but they can
be fun and. Interesting San, francisco while that is The
Bay area is a huge. Market one of the reasons
it became more powerful ratings wise Than New york IN

(01:57:57):
la for stretches there is because of how good they
were and they continued to, win and they built their
own legacies and all that type of.

Speaker 2 (01:58:04):
Stuff and you can do that. There Milwaukee.

Speaker 1 (01:58:07):
Bucks you see, them and you know That giannis is,
There you'll watch him In, Milwaukee isn't isn't one of
the biggest major markets. EITHER i Mean Miami heat when,
Well Lebron james is, there he is a huge. Star
that is definitely certainly an outlier. Situation but at stretches
in the nineties When Dwayne wade And shaq were there as, Well,
miami if you go look at the population of, them

(01:58:28):
it's not like they they are anywhere close TO la
And New york and all that type of. Stuff but
it's kind of sad to me THAT i think you
have this great fun basketball. MATCHUP i mentioned the total
being two hundred and thirty and a half, points and
that that Means vegas is basically predicting about a one
twenty to one eleven or one ten and a half

(01:58:49):
game that's high, scoring that's up and, down that's not
a huge. Blowout we'll see what happens tonight ON abc
For game one of THE Nba finals seven. Thirty but
it should be more about the, matchups more about the.
Basketball but you just end up with all this low
hanging fruit on this these talking head. Shows who's the

(01:59:11):
face of the, league what's going on with the media?
Markets and it's really just because you can't break down the.
Basketball it's either because a they don't have the capability OR.
B that's a lot of what the audience doesn't. Want
and that's another thing too that we come back. To
we talk about this media world in this landscape that we're,
in and we complain about and complain about. It, well
you know why these talking head shows go with all

(01:59:32):
these hot takes and all this overreactionary stuff and they
keep things. Fluff in big, picture it's because that's what gets.
Ratings they go to where the water is and they drink,
unfortunately so we kind of have to be better as
a sporting. Public and it's also a different thing when
you're doing a thirty minute show and you got to

(01:59:53):
talk about ten, things ten different, things and you can
only go into in depth so much right when you're
spending three minutes on every topic and you're flipping around
and you're trying to hit.

Speaker 2 (02:00:03):
Everything on nation.

Speaker 1 (02:00:05):
Long four hour, show perhaps like The Matt Thomas show With, Ross,
YEAH i can Have Chris gordion and we'll talk About
Christian walker's bat speed and it's down a tick and
are we concerned and stuff like.

Speaker 2 (02:00:17):
That you can get a flush things out a little.

Speaker 1 (02:00:19):
Bit more on a four hour talk, show which is
WHY i love this, medium which is Why i'm being.

Speaker 2 (02:00:23):
Here i'm interested in THE Nba. FINALS i think it's
going to be a good.

Speaker 1 (02:00:27):
MATCHUP i hope the games are close and it's not
a bunch of, blowouts but it should be up and
down fun basketball with good young players and good young.
Teams so my interest level is pretty good for, me
at least for THE Nba finals starting tonight ON abc
seven one three two one two five seven to. Ninety
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at SPORTS rv as. Well was running through some of
those last. SEGMENT a couple more THAT i wanted to get.
To one from J d stro what About winkham pointless
in calling him. Up and, YEAH i would Like Shae
wickham to get some looks as. Well it'd be interesting
to see if he's in the lineup today and how
things get. Constructed if maybe you go with a D

(02:01:11):
h day for For, altuve then that allows you to Put,
Melton myers And smith in the. Lineup, ALSO i mean
you do have The righty And Mitch keller in, there
so you probably will See Jacob Melton and what does that?
Mean Maybe Shaye wickham gets a look at second. Base
it could, happen BUT i would like. Him, yeah he

(02:01:33):
Was he was swinging a hot bat for sure for The,
astros and he's played some second base the last couple of.
Years played four games at second for The. Astros last
year a couple of games started. There of, course we
know we had that horrible four hour game at third.
Base hopefully now what we'd like we're moving past. That
AND i don't real even wrong really bring it, up
and it was just an unfortunate situation for him. There

(02:01:57):
but we'll see if he can crack the lineup with.
You i'd like to See Shay wickham get a crack
at some, point especially with how hot of a. Bat
he was swinging down At TRIPLE a Sugar land where
he was just hitting home, runs multiple home run, games
walk off home, runs he was doing it. All and
now back up with the major league, club hopefully he

(02:02:18):
can get some starts and some looks for The.

Speaker 2 (02:02:20):
Stros and you're just looking for lightning in a bottle
at this.

Speaker 1 (02:02:23):
POINT i, mean all these guys that we've talked about
that have come up not necessarily thought of as one
of the best prospects in. Baseball Jacob meltain twenty four years.
Old he's going to be twenty five very. Soon Shay
wickham is twenty six years. Old that's a little long
in the tooth for a young. Phenom of, Course Cam

(02:02:44):
smith though very. Young what's he twenty two now at this,
point and the future is bright for that young guy
who was a top hundred prospect.

Speaker 2 (02:02:53):
List doesn't mean.

Speaker 1 (02:02:53):
Everything there can be guys who aren't on top one
hundred prospects lists who come out and blow up and
perform and can reach all star.

Speaker 2 (02:03:01):
Level but it'd be better if they were than if they.

Speaker 1 (02:03:05):
Weren't but that's just where we are in the state
of The astros farm system right, now where you Have
Bryce matthews at number, One Jacob meultain number two in
terms of guys that we could talk about as being,
options and of.

Speaker 2 (02:03:21):
Course Jacob meultain on The Major League club right.

Speaker 1 (02:03:23):
Now all, right time for another break here on The
Matt Thomas show With ross Without Matt. Thomas he'll be back.
Tomorrow Adam klant is coming up to hang out in
this next. Hour you want to get, in you can
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(02:03:44):
number four coming up really. Quickly don't go. Anywhere our
number four of The Matt Thomas show With ross with
No Matt thomas. Mine thanks To Chris cordy for hanging out.
Earlier brian, McTaggart good. Stuff we'll hear a little bit
of that conversation coming up later on in this.

Speaker 2 (02:04:06):
Hour but look at this.

Speaker 1 (02:04:08):
Right on, time, Folks for those of you who, PEGGED
i think it was an eight to one long. Shot
right on, Time Adam, clinton he is here and.

Speaker 2 (02:04:16):
He's ready to.

Speaker 13 (02:04:17):
GO i always feel so loved when there's odds placed
on my. Attendance, WELL i, Said i'm a. Hypocrite, ANYWAYS
i don't know if you were listening coming. IN i
was supposed to come in at nine o'clock For Dan matthews,
yesterday AND.

Speaker 1 (02:04:28):
I showed up at nine, thirty oh because and then
it was, like, Hey i'm here for The Dana brown.
Interview AND i didn't even Realize Dana brown was yesterday.

Speaker 13 (02:04:35):
Too how big a diva do we have both in
mornings and in mid days that they're just constantly just taking.

Speaker 1 (02:04:44):
Off, yeah just whenever they feel like, it they'll show.
Up And i'd love to get to that status one. Day,
yeah like for and especially when you think about all
WHERE i was taken a. Day, okay when you think
about all the grief that one of those men in
particular gives other people about off time or just any
any time they're not in front.

Speaker 2 (02:05:03):
Of the, mic it's pretty it's pretty a large sum
of hip. Hypocrisy, there, yes.

Speaker 1 (02:05:09):
A lot of hypocrisy going on all all across the.

Speaker 13 (02:05:11):
Country now on The afternoon, show WHERE i work with
a complete workaholic cyborg who hates to take, vacation he,
yes he has.

Speaker 2 (02:05:19):
One OF i think. Workaholic cyborg is a very good
way to describe. One Adam.

Speaker 13 (02:05:22):
Wexler he'll send me. Dates he'd be, like, hey keep
these in. Mind might be taking. Vacation are you? Okay
are you feeling all?

Speaker 2 (02:05:29):
Right? Yeah then he does. It he's, like, yeah you
know what ended up staying?

Speaker 13 (02:05:32):
Well we ended up coming back. Early WHY i convinced
the family THAT i need to do shows? What, jeez,
Dude well good for. Him, eh we appreciate his high
level of. Attendance he's got perfect. ATTENDANCE i believe we're
going to have a. Certificate it's gonna be a whole.
CEREMONY i Heard houston coming, up very, diligent very diligent.

Speaker 1 (02:05:49):
Worker topic On june. Fifth we've talked about a lot of.
STUFF Nba finals.

Speaker 2 (02:05:57):
Today is that final?

Speaker 1 (02:05:57):
Start feel like like eighty nine percent of the discourse
has been about the media market sizes rather than the
actual good basketball that should be played on the.

Speaker 2 (02:06:06):
FLOOR i have a theory on that go.

Speaker 13 (02:06:07):
Ahead so the day that we don't talk about the
market size of the championship competitors in a championship round
in THE nba is when they will finally be able
To they'll they'll never be equal or on equal, footing
but they'll at least be in the conversation Of, okay
we're on the right track to being what THE nfl.

(02:06:29):
Is you, know THE nfl where mild small Market Kansas
city has been dominating for nearly or over a half decade,
now and nobody talks about where they're.

Speaker 2 (02:06:37):
From, Yea Pittsburgh steelers a huge.

Speaker 1 (02:06:40):
BRAND i, MEAN i don't even know when it Was Russell,
Wilson Seattle, seahawks they're not one of the. Biggest that's
also a couple of things in play. There number, one THE,
NBA i, mean the THE nfl does a much better,
JOB i feel, like of marketing their star players than
the other two leagues.

Speaker 13 (02:06:58):
Do do you know what's fact about you saying that
is that it should be the other way, around because
there is no sport where or no major league of
the three if you want to count THE, nhl which
also applies to but THE nba you get by far
closer to and you get a better look at the.

(02:07:19):
Athletes they don't wear anything on their, roads especially, helmets
and you're right on top of.

Speaker 2 (02:07:24):
Them just Ask, Detroit. Michigan, well technically it Was Auburn
hills when The malice of The palace. Happened, yeah but you,
know like that you have you, know per capita or
range or.

Speaker 13 (02:07:35):
Whatever you have far better access TO nba players and
they play more minutes than any of the other participants
because it's just five on five at all. Times so
you would think that would not be a. Problem but you're,
right AND i don't, KNOW i don't know what the answer,
IS i, know so, yeah it's JUST i don't, Know i'm.

Speaker 1 (02:07:55):
Not a huge, maybe you, know not going in ninety
nine percent of the. Time it's The lakers and The
goal and The State warriors and putting thirty nine p.
Down The thunder have been on a lot of national
games and they've they've done their, best but it's also
those other teams have to do their. Part you have
to have a certain level of, charisma like you can
have A Kawhi leonard has been a FINALS mvp in
multiple markets and he has been a great star, player

(02:08:18):
but he's not extremely. Marketable your. People you need people
who are, marketable so it takes some of that as.
Well you have to have a little bit of, luck
but you also have to have success and so whichever
team it's going to be the thunder when's THE nba,
Finals shake Guil Just alexander and Ched.

Speaker 2 (02:08:34):
Holgerm they've been on.

Speaker 1 (02:08:35):
Commercials they were on uh you know what a pro
wants with the commercials that wouldn't stop During March. Madness
so they've been on a couple of. Campaigns they have
another one going right. NOW i actually don't even remember
what the product is. For so you've Had Shake Gildess
alexander some of the marketing and building up of him as.
Well but it just it just has to continue and
you have to invest that time in that money in

(02:08:56):
those guys as.

Speaker 13 (02:08:57):
Well you, know it's funny About Shay Gildes alexander that he.
Is and, listen everybody's Criticizing Doris burke right now and
she's not safe in her role and bah blah blah about.
WHATEVER i, know she's not everybody's cup of tea on the.
Broadcast but free throw. MERCHANT i haven't seen a moniker
that good in a long long. TIME i don't have
a big problem with with Uh Doris burke like some

(02:09:17):
other people. Do now she does now when it's like
going to, break you, Know Mark jackson WAS i didn't
like his, analysis but going to break and say hand
damn man, down And mama goes, that, man those are
good five second. Lockouts and Then Doris burke it feels
a little forced when she does that kind of, stuff
and then people post that and plaster.

Speaker 2 (02:09:35):
At all over social.

Speaker 1 (02:09:37):
Media but that's, like you, know five seconds of a
throwing to break locking out.

Speaker 13 (02:09:42):
Broadcast it's not the whole. Thing how do you feel
About Mike. BREEN i Like Mike breen a. LOT i
don't dislike, him BUT i was like you AND i
know we agree on. This we were raised On Marv Marvel.
MERV i, mean if you if you came, up you'll
move right if you came up in the nineties or
AND i guess it's primarily the nineties because the eighties
was still ON cbs for a large, part.

Speaker 2 (02:10:01):
And you didn't have the The jordan mystique in play as.

Speaker 13 (02:10:05):
Much, jordan and of course The rockets winning back to
back in, between you associate him with, that except for
the last one where he had Stupid Bob costas calling
one of the most iconic shots IN nba, history, unfortunately
and then he got Pink guy during The.

Speaker 2 (02:10:19):
Olympics BUT i. Digress BUT i just.

Speaker 13 (02:10:22):
Related you can't Like Mike. Bring there's something necessarily inherently
wrong with. Him Although bang is just, lame.

Speaker 1 (02:10:28):
But it's not yet because you're always waiting for the double.
Bank what's the Difference, Bang, yes the delivery?

Speaker 13 (02:10:35):
Else, yeah, Exactly see how you said yes differently the second.

Speaker 2 (02:10:39):
Time that's the. Difference, okay but, no like he's. Fine
but here's the.

Speaker 13 (02:10:43):
Deal if you're gonna swap out AND i didn't Like
Mark jackson VERY i mean Particularly, gundy And i'm biased
BECAUSE i know him a little, bit but he was
good ON. Tv you're gonna take those two out and
you took you Took Mark jackson out, FIRST i. Believe
but you're gonna Take Van gundy out and you're gonna
replace it With Dick.

Speaker 1 (02:11:02):
Jefferson come, On Jack. Jefferson to, me it's just he's,
yeah very. UNINTERESTING i don't really care for his analysis that,
much but, yeah you, know he sounds always good. ANALYSIS
i think with the problem THAT espn AND abc had
with jeff And gundy and probably THE, nba is that
he would just complain about the game of the state
of the game.

Speaker 2 (02:11:20):
All the time and fix. It, yeah nothing he said was.
Untrue nothing he said was.

Speaker 1 (02:11:24):
Untrue but you know this as partners of The Euston
Astros Houston. Rockets, yeah when you are partnering with THE,
nba you cannot go out there see and just continually
crush the team that is paid the league that is
paying you millions to call their.

Speaker 2 (02:11:38):
Game this brings us, back ironically to the crux of the.

Speaker 13 (02:11:42):
Issue in my, opinion in all of the topics we
have covered here in these first nearly nine minutes of this,
Hour Adam silver will never even sniff holding the jock
Of David stern as far as being a. Commissioner do
you Think David stern would handle it like? That because
what you just described is. Rabbit Jeff Fan gundy was
effectively removed because he had the audacity to be honest

(02:12:06):
with your audience about your, product AND i know there's
ways to go about doing. That do you Think David
stern would have handled it that? WAY i don't, KNOW
i Don't, okay he was a total mafia. Guy what
does that mean what he has? Done you would have
Had Jeff Fan gundy? Assassinated, no but it. Wouldn't he
would have recognized That Van gundy is still good for the,
brand and he would have taken steps to improve the

(02:12:30):
issues That Jeffvan gundy is just merely a mouthpiece pointing out, like,
LOOK i know how you feel About, lebron and it's
probably different from, Me like you probably appreciate his greatness
more THAN i do because it's not clouded by all
of their.

Speaker 2 (02:12:44):
Extracurriculars with, YOU i don't care about, me, well but to,
me you.

Speaker 13 (02:12:49):
Can't you can't have part of The lebron era without
all of, it and all of it means he's just
there's so many things About lebron that are not basketball
related THAT i think bogged down his legacy and get
in the way of a preople astray misinformed.

Speaker 2 (02:13:06):
COMMENTS i, mean has he run for? Office is?

Speaker 13 (02:13:08):
HE i, MEAN i think he'd like. To, okay SOMETIMES i.
Hasn't but it's just like the whole goat debate is
so tired. Anyways but it's just SO i feel like
it's getting easier with time, now and so you can
definitely tell right easier For.

Speaker 1 (02:13:22):
Lebron he's racking up more new or, ol NBA's racking
up more, points rebounds and.

Speaker 2 (02:13:26):
Assists, oh when you play until you're forty and have
to do that, too when you're.

Speaker 1 (02:13:29):
Not a free time, quitter when you just don't quit
all the time and when time's Go, OH i was
so tired from being in the finals three straight.

Speaker 13 (02:13:37):
Times maybe he was quit encouraged to and that was
the story they came up. With, wow going back to my, mom,
right you have to come up with a conspiracy theory
to shore up a three time. Quitter, michael you've got
a gambling. Problem we'd like you to step away for
a year and a. Half you can come back and
we'll have a better team waiting for.

Speaker 2 (02:13:55):
You you know what was the time?

Speaker 1 (02:13:57):
Limit it was eighteen, Months so he came back in
the middle of a nineteen ninety five exactly a year
and a.

Speaker 2 (02:14:01):
Half, Yeah i'll. You you have to make up a
conspiracy theory to to shore up misgivings in that man's.

Speaker 13 (02:14:07):
Career, well conspiracy theories have a funny thing of always
being rooted in a lot of.

Speaker 1 (02:14:11):
Fact the guy was out gambling on foot REEL i
don't know. About that's a log nest monster conspiracy theory.

Speaker 2 (02:14:19):
That those things are those.

Speaker 13 (02:14:21):
Aren't those are like tall tales, though those aren't conspiracy.
Theories conspiracy theory to, Me, okay we're gonna figure we're
gonna figure out a way to get TO oj before
the end of this, segment you'll.

Speaker 2 (02:14:31):
See but like that the moon landing was a. HOAX
i don't know about. That what a conspiracy? Theory you,
said it's rooted in?

Speaker 1 (02:14:38):
Truth? Flat the earth is, flat that's what's where's the
truth in? That there is no truth in that? Monster
where's the? Truth i'm telling, you conspiracy theories aren't all
rooted in.

Speaker 13 (02:14:49):
Truth, now let's talk ABOUT. Jfk, okay now let's talk
about nine to eleven.

Speaker 1 (02:14:53):
Get killed by the C. Ai there's like ten conspiracy.
Theories it was THE, cia it was in was it
Was LYNDON. B. JOHNSON I, mean there's, like it can't
all be.

Speaker 9 (02:15:04):
True it.

Speaker 13 (02:15:04):
Can't, yeah but it can't all be conspiracy. Sometimes all, Right,
anyways what else you want To, well here's a good.
ONE i just, googled like conspiracy. Theories Avril levine has
been dead for toys to. See that's just that's conspiracy.

Speaker 11 (02:15:15):
Theory you just told.

Speaker 13 (02:15:19):
Me there's ruth true truth rooted in conspiracy. Theories but
when you say flat, earth that's not conspiracy. Theory that's
just stupid people who aren't accepting of like all of
this over here research and science conspiracy.

Speaker 2 (02:15:34):
Theory, oh by the, way you know pictures from space
that show you we kind of live on a.

Speaker 1 (02:15:38):
Sphere put a stick in the ground and watch the
sun go around in a. Circle there's your.

Speaker 13 (02:15:44):
Answer that's it's that's as basic AS i can get
it for some of you dumbs out.

Speaker 2 (02:15:47):
There ross just spelled it. Out all.

Speaker 1 (02:15:49):
Right we're gonna take a break on that of mill
cylinders on. Time we are firing on on on all
cylinders because the breaks are sneaking up on. Us you
want to get, in you can seven to one three
your favorite Conspiracy, no call them with.

Speaker 2 (02:16:00):
That i'm just.

Speaker 1 (02:16:00):
Kidding seven one three two one two five seven. Ninety
we're gonna talk some. Astros we just talked SOME nba.
Finals anything you guys want to get into as well
with you until two. O'clock it is The Matt Thomas
show With ross Without Matt thomas really going into one
nineteen in THE pm here on sports stocks seven ninety
runs here we are with, You Adam clinton here as.

Speaker 2 (02:16:19):
Well appreciate you hanging out at. Him, oh it's no.

Speaker 13 (02:16:22):
PROBLEM i didn't work, yesterday SO i FIGURED i should
make up for lost. Time, yeah you guys are off
early today as, well, right and? Tomorrow oh and, tomorrow
not as early. Tomorrow The East coast road trips aren't so,
bad are. THEY i, mean if it's not that it's
a day. GAME i, mean we can't catch a break
With Matt thomas And judge saying.

Speaker 1 (02:16:37):
That, No i'm saying it's it's. GOOD i Mean i'm
on the post game today and. Tomorrow SO i liked
these Early East coast games as.

Speaker 13 (02:16:43):
Well how do you when you're hosting An astros post, game,
yes win or, loss how do you gauge how long to?

Speaker 1 (02:16:52):
GO i will always even if let's, say let's start
with zero, CALLS i will go to a. Ten and
it also depends on the. Time right because we here on,
radio we have what's Called i'm just explaining to the,
FOLKS i know what's called the top of the hour
where you have to hit AN id and just basically
SAY KBM E. Houston it's, legal we have to do.

(02:17:14):
It so if it's up against the top of the,
HOUR i will just go until. Then, otherwise let's just
say in a perfect world it starts right at let's
just make up a time ten. O'CLOCK i will go
till about ten, eleven ten, twelve take a, break come,
back play some, audio And i'll be. Out AND i
try to go at least twenty five thirty minutes at a.

Speaker 13 (02:17:32):
Minimum general rule of, thumb you get more calls on
average after a loss than a. WIN i would say so,
yes because everybody wants to especially when it's.

Speaker 1 (02:17:40):
Oh when the bullpen blows it And joe it's all,
Fired Joe. Aspota but sometimes you can have a really
fun win and you'll get some people.

Speaker 2 (02:17:49):
Excited BUT i would say walk offs and.

Speaker 1 (02:17:50):
Whatnot, yeah walkoffs are good Time christian Walkoffs, well, well
they they, happen but fewer and far between as far
AS i, mean he's got eight home, runs but a
lot of them have been high leverage home.

Speaker 13 (02:18:02):
Runs how blessed are The astros that they play in
this crap division this?

Speaker 2 (02:18:05):
Year they're very.

Speaker 1 (02:18:06):
Blessed they're they have the fifth best record in The American,
league but their first in their.

Speaker 13 (02:18:10):
DIVISION i was about to, say it's not just a division.
THING i heard you talking about that. Earlier i'm glad
you brought that up because as the season has gone on,
longer strangely, enough there has been no real.

Speaker 2 (02:18:20):
Separation so it's not just AN Al west. Thing THE.
Al The American league in general in twenty twenty five
is very.

Speaker 1 (02:18:28):
Mediocre The tigers have a little bit Of, YEAH i
guess it looks like it's The tigers And. Yankees AS
i pull it, up it's The tigers ahead of. Everyone
two and a half back are The. Yankees then The
twins are six back of The. Tigers so it's Like, Tigers,
yankees then kind of everybody Else astros in that.

Speaker 2 (02:18:44):
Mix but LIKE i trust The tigers, BEFORE i trust
The yankees right, NOW i trust them to win that.

Speaker 1 (02:18:50):
DIVISION i don't know if there's going to be some
kind of world beaters come world there As donnager A. J,
hincher that would be.

Speaker 2 (02:18:55):
ONE A.

Speaker 1 (02:18:56):
J Hinch, yeah let's says he worked his magic against
The astros last, year his magic In game one Being
Trek school will go out there and shut everybody.

Speaker 13 (02:19:04):
Down, yeah and shouldn't really need to do particularly much
more than. That just don't have your, bullpen blow the.

Speaker 1 (02:19:09):
Lead and then then playing matchups with the bullpen. GAME i,
mean that was the pathway for The tigers to win that,
series and they do it in two.

Speaker 13 (02:19:16):
Games you think Wild card should be. LONGER i think
they shouldn't have A baseball is such a baseball. Sport they're,
So but THEN i, mean are we going back to
one fifty four for regular? Season you probably don't want
to trim that.

Speaker 2 (02:19:31):
Revenue well know What i'm saying is should this series be? Longer?

Speaker 1 (02:19:34):
Yeah, Should but then you're going into like Mid, november
and If heaven, forbid at some, point you end up
with like A. TWINS i don't, Know, Pirates, Okay pirates
aren't gonna be ever being The World, series maybe With Paul,
skins but, like if you end up like two cold
weather teams and you're getting into Mid, november you're gonna
have like snow flourries in the middle of.

Speaker 13 (02:19:51):
Games, yeah but all that kind of concern went out
the window And Rob manfer was, like h let's just
leave the guy on second.

Speaker 2 (02:19:58):
Base that's.

Speaker 13 (02:19:58):
Permanent, yeah but they don't do it Ef that's, true
which makes it even. Dumber we're gonna completely change a
little like.

Speaker 2 (02:20:03):
That, no nobody wants to be.

Speaker 1 (02:20:06):
There, NO i like two hours because you're waiting around
for post, Games LIKE i am two hours and twenty five.

Speaker 2 (02:20:12):
Minutes let's. Go Chris burk's walk off would have never.

Speaker 1 (02:20:15):
Happened, yeah but but you got the you got the,
beautiful wonderful Uh Jeremy pania walk not walk off because
they were on the. Road but eighteen inning home Run Luis,
garcia five, innings you get. That that stuff's cool and
that's memorable in the, playoffs eighteen innings against The guardians In.

Speaker 2 (02:20:30):
June ain't nobody got time for.

Speaker 13 (02:20:32):
That i'm offs are taking you to eighteen innings In.

Speaker 2 (02:20:36):
June that's on. You that's on.

Speaker 1 (02:20:37):
You but it ruins your, bullpen it tires out, arms
it ruins the rest of the. Series for you made
it for over one hundred. Years, yeah You've, yeah sometimes
you gotta.

Speaker 2 (02:20:46):
Progress.

Speaker 1 (02:20:46):
Yeah we also didn't have a cure FOR i don't,
know typhoid. Fever, okay you gotta.

Speaker 13 (02:20:51):
Gotta mass use fever and a gift runner on second
base or the same.

Speaker 2 (02:20:56):
Thing.

Speaker 1 (02:20:57):
Progress you're at home moving a dresser and you scratch your,
Arm it's time to.

Speaker 2 (02:21:01):
Amputate, okay we gotta. Progress, YEAH i got a whatm? Now,
okay what? Happened Man as scratched my? Arm he got.

Speaker 1 (02:21:11):
Infected they had to cut it. Off, okay we gotta progress.

Speaker 2 (02:21:14):
In this World East. Harlem APPARENTLY i don't know what
accent that, was BUT.

Speaker 12 (02:21:19):
I lost my.

Speaker 1 (02:21:20):
Mom all, right that's what you had a bunch of
pirates walking around with scurvy and peg. Legs, okay we
we gotta progress in this. World we gotta get, better
we gotta move. Forward we can't have eighteen innings in
the middle Of june on A wednesday against The, guardians you, know.

Speaker 13 (02:21:34):
Progressives, NOW i get. IT i understand and look for
the sake of efficiency and all that kind of. Stuff
but the PROBLEM i have with it is not The
it's not necessarily the gimmicky rule, itself although it is
lame to, me but it's like this happening in a
sport which for so many. Years, also we're so steeped

(02:21:58):
in tradition and numbers and that's all.

Speaker 2 (02:21:59):
Skewed. Now, yeah, THERE i like.

Speaker 1 (02:22:01):
It they're finally getting stuck out of the mud and
you have, uh we didn't even mention. This the looks
like The Challenge system is coming next, year which is
at least a step in the right.

Speaker 13 (02:22:10):
Direction, yeah let's not get all of, them, Right let's
just get a, few all, right, guys we have the.

Speaker 1 (02:22:13):
Technology we can do. This we can get every single
hick stuff. Right, yeah, yeah you are you AND i
are definitely eyed eye on.

Speaker 2 (02:22:21):
This but we're not gonna do. It we're not gonna do.
It why, well you need the human. Lmk. Guys we
have this.

Speaker 1 (02:22:26):
System it's gonna be in, place it's gonna be. There
it's not even about. Expenditure it's not about. Money the
system is there, technology it will be Install.

Speaker 2 (02:22:34):
We're actually using it at different level that What i'm.

Speaker 1 (02:22:36):
Saying when you when you bring in This challenge, system
everything that you need to get every single call right
will be.

Speaker 2 (02:22:41):
Installed you get you pressed a.

Speaker 13 (02:22:43):
Button, furthermore it's not like you're completely removing the human
element from other calls in the.

Speaker 2 (02:22:49):
Game, no just the most important. One, yeah, hey we
can get every, call, Right who?

Speaker 1 (02:22:52):
Cares what IF i told you in basketball we could
get every single file that we Put he had some
really crazy. Technology we put a censor on somebody shoulder
and they can tell when the body was contacted at
a CERTAIN psi and we could get every single foul, call,
right wouldn't you want to do? That Jam On green
would be out of work for Starting Shake gill Just
alexander's numbers would go. Down but that'd be, okay as
they should free throw. Merchant that he is free throw,

(02:23:15):
merchant As Doris burke would.

Speaker 13 (02:23:16):
Say but, yeah LIKE i don't like you're still gonna
get bang bang plays at first base and double.

Speaker 1 (02:23:21):
Plays, Okay, Yeah umpire's got enough opportunity to get everything.

Speaker 2 (02:23:25):
Wrong that's the great same zone for every player based
on their.

Speaker 1 (02:23:30):
Right the, designation you, know expanded it a little, bit
especially with the way breaking stuff and it spins in
and a lot of type.

Speaker 2 (02:23:37):
Stuff it might be far more.

Speaker 1 (02:23:38):
Consistent, yeah you'd need maybe a slight recalibration to get
numbers to where you'd want.

Speaker 2 (02:23:42):
Them Maybe Taylor walls doesn't get thrown out, there just
what you.

Speaker 1 (02:23:45):
Guess you find a knob on the machine and you
crank it a little bit to open up to widen
the or LinkedIn or whatever the the strike, Zone bang bang.

Speaker 2 (02:23:53):
Boom we scrubbed the record book Of Greg maddox's strikeouts that's.

Speaker 1 (02:23:57):
Awesome, yeah most of, THEM i mean, anyways well least
half of them getting out of there in a tight
two hours ten. Minutes that Was craig is going to
be the size Of texas for him Only, well you
had to get home something. Exactly you take away all
that type of. Stuff why why would you do? That, well,
anyways the division winnable for The. Astros, yeah AND i,

(02:24:19):
LOOK i think they actually will end up winning. It,
THUS i was hearing you guys talk, earlier AND i
think you actually brought this up with. McTaggart you, know
they're gonna go get some help from a pitching, Standpoint
But i'm, like, like they're gonna be buyers instead of
sellers at the.

Speaker 2 (02:24:35):
Deadline, YES i don't.

Speaker 1 (02:24:39):
Know are you Just joey Loberfdo Jake bloss And Will
wagner aren't doing much of?

Speaker 2 (02:24:43):
Anything?

Speaker 1 (02:24:44):
True so if You're but if that's your, answer that
was the steal of the, century the whole of the,
century according To astros fans of The Blue.

Speaker 2 (02:24:52):
Jays, guy if you can get.

Speaker 13 (02:24:53):
Something for those, guys, which by the, way The astros
completely won that deal until further.

Speaker 2 (02:24:58):
Notice, Yeah kakuchi was amazing here he was if you don't.

Speaker 1 (02:25:01):
Win the he they were what was, it they won
nine out of ten of his starts or something like,
that and he was stupid good and they won the
division by like two two three.

Speaker 2 (02:25:08):
Games and now he's an angel and he. Sucks WELL
i think he's, yea they.

Speaker 13 (02:25:12):
Suck but but, like if you can get, that even
on a, rental because that's what it ended up being
for those, guys Then chas McCormick from twenty twenty three
should at least get you something equal because that's your, trading, right,
hope trying to convince some of your tradeing At.

Speaker 1 (02:25:27):
Also there was the hope when when the could THERE
i mean definitely in, hindsight they gave up, nothing but
they we didn't think at the time they were giving up.

Speaker 13 (02:25:36):
Nothing who's worse as they leave The Houston astros organization
under their current circumstances in a Deal chas McCormick Or
Miles Straw Because Miles straw got, You Yiner.

Speaker 2 (02:25:49):
Diaz, yeah well, yeah that's why your, Guy james, click my.
GUY i thought it was. Me, No i'm not gonna
be progressed in that.

Speaker 13 (02:25:58):
Regard now he's your Cousin james, click, dude he They
matt sounds thinking Like james click a little.

Speaker 2 (02:26:05):
BIT i don't.

Speaker 13 (02:26:06):
Look we did a video once with our aviators, on
and that's when it really looked alike because you couldn't
see our, eyes LIKE.

Speaker 2 (02:26:11):
I, said, Cousins yeah it.

Speaker 13 (02:26:12):
Was it was actually before before the twenty two championship
run that, postseason like when they have the workout day
that's open to the. Media we're down on the field
with his perfect weather by the, way Because houston In
october is. Amazing and uh And james. CLICK i convinced him.
To and what was funny is, oh Uh gleason over

(02:26:32):
At channel. Thirteen, no why AM i drawing blank on
his first? Name he he he was uh taking from
he was taking video Of maldonado looking at me And james,
click and it was in his. Mind you could see him, like,
yeah he was talking TO i THINK i can't remember
who he's talking. To he was, like these guys look exactly.
Alike and So i'm, Like i'm just gonna do. It

(02:26:54):
there's all his jokes about. It matt keeps talking about.
It SO i walk over To james click And i'm just,
like we're gonna do a video together right. Now that's
Hi Setti, yeah and he's, like all, right what are we?
Doing like he was cool about it, though and then you,
know we just talked about how we, were you, know
basically separated at birth and it.

Speaker 1 (02:27:09):
Worked, No i'm sticking with, cousins all, right quick break
here on The Matt Thomas show when we come. Back
good conversation With brian McTaggart mlb dot, Com All Things.
Astros that is next thirty five here On Sports talk
seven ninety ros Vi area with You Adam clinton hanging
out as. Well appreciate. Him show goes until two. O'clock

(02:27:32):
wanted to bring you guys, though some conversation With brian
McTaggart from earlier. Today appreciate him joining as a weekly
guest as he always does On thursdays at eleven. O'clock
you can find the full conversation Sports talk seven ninety dot.
Com but good stuff With brian McTaggart astros Dot. Com
started off the conversation talking About Ryan gusto didn't go

(02:27:55):
five innings again? Yesterday could there be some thought in
The astros' minds going elsehere where as far as the.

Speaker 11 (02:28:01):
Rotation, YEAH i MEAN i think they might be getting
close to that. Point they're also going to be entering
a stretch up with a bunch of games without a day. Off,
again not as long as they, did you, know last,
time but like you, KNOW i think about you, know
two weeks, worth so that might be an area where
they want to go to six man.

Speaker 2 (02:28:17):
Rotation but who do they put in the rotation at that.

Speaker 11 (02:28:19):
POINT i, mean they're pretty much at the end of
their pitching depth right, now you, know you, know do
you bring Up, uola who's throwing really. WELL i mean,
again he's a. Rookie you don't know what you're gonna.
Get Blue ball was here. Before do you bring him?
Back so they're in a bit of a buying, HERE i,
think starting pitching, wise because you feel really good if
you're The astros when you Got Hunter brown or Fran brivaldez,

(02:28:42):
going AND i Mean i'll even Put lance in that category,
now and then When gusto And gordon, go you, know
not so not so. GOOD i mean not that you
can't win those, games And gordon's pitched a little bit
better Than gusto at this. Point but the point is
they're just at the end of their pitching depth right
now until they Get Eric getty, back they they Get
garcia back In, august or they make a. Trade so

(02:29:03):
they're in a bit of a tough spot with their pitching,
depth just with all the.

Speaker 1 (02:29:06):
Injuries, yeah you mentioned mccullors and on what A god,
said he's been the last couple of starts out, there
quality starts and one hundred and two, pitches ninety six
pitches to say that that's where we, are where you're
kind of putting him in the safer or reliable. Category
or even not even a month ago Again, cincinnati he
was out there getting shelled and you're, like is this
guy about to GET df eight in a couple of.

(02:29:27):
Starts it has been crazy that he has turned it
around the way he. Is and you're, Saying, brian you think, that,
hey going forward until further, notice we can kind of
trust this guy in the.

Speaker 11 (02:29:38):
ROTATION i think, SO i, mean, YEAH i, mean it's
only been a you, know three four start sample, Here
but WHEN i, mean if you look back At lance's
entire career when he's been, healthy he's been. Good so
it's not like this is a guy who hasn't done it,
before and you're, like, oh, okay but if he's, healthy
he's a, really really good starting. Pitcher you, know he
pitches a little differently than he did, before but you

(02:29:59):
know he can still be very effective when he's landing
both of those breaking, balls and you know his fastball
is good, enough and so you, Know i'm not ready
to put him in The Fromber Hunter brown, category BUT
i think if he's pitching on you The, Astros you're.

Speaker 2 (02:30:12):
Like we got a really good chance to win.

Speaker 1 (02:30:14):
Today brian McTaggart astros dot, COM mlb Dot com with
us here On Sports talk seven Ninety, brian, when as
we often do on these, segments ask you to get.

Speaker 2 (02:30:26):
Out your crystal.

Speaker 1 (02:30:26):
Ball in let's, say three, months how are we Viewing
Christian walker and where is he in The astros, lineup.

Speaker 2 (02:30:38):
Like at the end of the.

Speaker 1 (02:30:39):
Sea, yeah, yeah we're just in a few. Months is
he still in the cleanup? Spot do you, THINK i,
mean can he turn this? Around is this who he?

Speaker 2 (02:30:46):
Is is this? Decline is THIS i mean we Were.

Speaker 1 (02:30:50):
We're way too far in the season to blame the
oblique thing from the start of the.

Speaker 2 (02:30:53):
Year, yeah you.

Speaker 11 (02:30:55):
Can't say he didn't have a you, know a spring
training anymore or any of that. Stuff, YEAH i, mean you,
know you're you're past the third point of the, season
so you, know you start to, say, well well maybe
this is who he.

Speaker 2 (02:31:07):
Is he's he's.

Speaker 11 (02:31:08):
Declined he's Not Joseah brad you, decline but he's declined
quite a. Bit you, know his, numbers you, know the
last month or so aren't just. Terrible they're not what
you want them to. Be you, know if you're THE
i think his last you, know thirty, games she's you,
know he's still.

Speaker 2 (02:31:23):
Hitting like two. NINETEEN i mean, that you know you
need that to be. Higher he's on base percentage just you,
know like two sixty.

Speaker 11 (02:31:29):
Seven so, uh you, Know i'm not defending, him but,
yeah the deeper you get into, this you're, wondering, well
this this is who we. HAVE i, mean the good
part is he's still playing a very very solid first.
Base but, YEAH i mean it depends how else the
lineup shakes, out. TOO i, mean you, know When alvarez comes,
BACK i MEAN i Think alvarez is going to hit clean.
Up that's that's pretty. Clear joe said that he likes

(02:31:50):
the one two three at the top of the lineup
like they. Are so that's going to bump him down to.
Fifth you bump him down a little, deeper you, know
maybe put somebody else in that fifth.

Speaker 2 (02:31:58):
SPOT i, mean that's probably converse that they have to.

Speaker 11 (02:32:00):
Have AND i Mean walker's enough of a pro, where you,
know they get to the midway point of the, season you,
know he's still got a you, know ops of you,
know around seven hundred or whatever it is that he'll
understand what they're. Doing and because, he's, uh you, KNOW
i know this is not what he envisioned, either so but,
yeah we'll. SEE i, mean you, know he could get
hot and turn it. Around you, know he's but so

(02:32:22):
far through a third of the, season it's with especially
the money they're paying, him he's he's been a disappointment
at the.

Speaker 1 (02:32:29):
Plate brian mctagger continuing with us here on A Sports
talk seven Ninety as far as lineup configuration goes now
With Jacob melton up with him and Left myers and,
Center Cam smith and right and then Jose L tuve
back to the old second, base how much and of,
course barring health and guys getting up and down and
stuff like, that.

Speaker 2 (02:32:49):
How set In.

Speaker 1 (02:32:50):
Stone do you think that would be especially with all
this talk about al twov being in left field and
then getting some some work in second base and really
being a natural fit, there especially With melton and up
with the.

Speaker 11 (02:33:00):
Club, Yeah i'm not In, pittsburgh SO i haven't had
a chance to answer ask this. Question if it you,
know the writers up there might have asked, it and you,
know IF i missed, IT i. Apologize but you, know
that's a very big left field In. PITTSBURGH i, mean
it's one of the biggest in. Baseball So i'm wondering
if that's you, know the reason that you know he hasn't,
played you, know left field these two games is at second,

(02:33:20):
base just because so much ground to cover out. There
and you do Have, melton now another left handed. Bat
he's been in the lineup twice against right handed hit
a couple of right handed, Pitchers so you, KNOW i
think probably both of those things play into. THAT i,
mean you, know before they got To, pittsburgh dubond was
still playing what three out of every four, games it's second.

(02:33:41):
Base Brandon rodgers playing time is dwindled here in the
last couple of, weeks probably for good. Reason so BUT
i just wonder if it's just park park related that
we've seen al two bates second. Base the last couple of, days.

Speaker 1 (02:33:53):
You mentioned a possible move getting made and we talked
about the starting. Rotation do you Think Dana brown is
scuffling around trying to do anything or you're just trying
to hold the glue to Rag getty gets back and
you can get closer to the deadline when hopefully there'd
be more potential.

Speaker 11 (02:34:05):
Sellers, YEAH i think if they do anything's gonna be
closer to the. Deadline you, know got to wait to
see how all shakes out a little, bit see.

Speaker 2 (02:34:13):
Who's really, in who's really. Out you're, right you are
going to Get Eric getty.

Speaker 11 (02:34:17):
Back maybe you, know it's going to be closer to
the deadline than, not unfortunately for The, Astros so you,
know they're probably gonna be in the market for a
left handed bat as, well maybe someone they you, know
they can plug in to help at second. Base And
i'm not, sure but every team is going to be
in the market for starting. Pitching and any Time Dana brown,
talks he's, like we're always in the market for. Pitching

(02:34:37):
BUT i think that's true almost for any. Team if
you look up and, Down yankees are going to be
in the market for. Pitching tigers are probably gonna want some.
Pitching every team's gonna want some. Pitching so that's you're
gonna have to wait too closer to the deadline before
that plays. Out but if they get Rig getty, back
and if they believe that The garcia is on a
better track maybe to join them shortly after The All star,

(02:34:58):
break they'll feel a lot better about they're starting.

Speaker 2 (02:35:00):
Pitching there you.

Speaker 1 (02:35:01):
Go brian McTaggart mlb dot Com thursday guest here On
Sports talk seven. Ninety he's also The Friday astros On deck.
Guest he'll be on tomorrow with one or both of The.
Adams i'm not, sure but, Hey astros will be in.

Speaker 2 (02:35:17):
Action of.

Speaker 1 (02:35:18):
Course we are your home of Your Houston astros five
Forty today Fromer valdez on The hill and another rubber
match seals feels like The astros have been in a
billion rubber, games, where of course that means it's one
to one and the winner wins the series for those
of you who don't, know but it's been all alternating
wins and. Losses so another rubber match for The astros

(02:35:40):
today five forty first, pitch four Thirty astros on deck
here on At Sports talk seven. Ninety time for a
quick break when we come. Back it is the final
segment of the. Show Adam clanton in the, Fold ROSS
vi are realt with? You it is The Matt Thomas
show With ross here On Sports talk seven.

Speaker 2 (02:35:55):
NINETY i THINK i should do. It you, won't oh
now it's. On oh you won't if he's listening to
his own show right? Now who are we talking? About all?

Speaker 1 (02:36:07):
Right final segment of The Matt Thomas show With ross
Without Man. Thomas he will be back, Tomorrow Adam, clinton
you will be. Here and who's on deck coming up
at four point Thirty Sports talk seven.

Speaker 2 (02:36:20):
Ninety we are. Together that's.

Speaker 13 (02:36:24):
Great he did it by himself yesterday BECAUSE i was.
Out you're here today, THOUGH i appreciate you putting in
the extra. Hours, yeah and then SO i got vacation
time coming up at the end of the. Month it's
like it bridges the gap between the end Of july
or end Of june and Into. July it is, Fantastic but,
MAN i Am i've got my eye On june. Fourteenth

(02:36:44):
What's june, Fourteenth Flag, Day, okay and ALSO i thought
that was some sort of it feels like a lot
OF oj anniversaries happened In.

Speaker 2 (02:36:52):
June, well, yeah the day before is the Anniver ACTUALLY
i think it Was june.

Speaker 13 (02:36:55):
Twelfth the night Of june twelfth is when he went
over To nicole's all slaughtered her and an innocent waiter
who was just trying to give her mom's glasses back.

Speaker 2 (02:37:05):
Allegedly, OKAY i guess he was found not guilty in
the criminal.

Speaker 13 (02:37:10):
CASE i think uh they were, like, hey pay up
thirty three million because you didn't do, it and then
he dodged The goldmans for Thirty yearsson was protected well
because he lived In. FLORIDA i can't imagine why you
would want to do that if you were, innocent though,
dead double.

Speaker 2 (02:37:28):
Murderer what do you think it's what do you think it's?
Like where he's at right?

Speaker 1 (02:37:31):
Now you know WHAT I i brought UP, Oj So
i'm going to blame myself for this if you don't
Know jonathan's, like what's going on? Here He adam is
obsessed with random, deaths well not random but assassinations and
THE oj trial.

Speaker 2 (02:37:44):
And nine to eleven and you're obsessed with that. Too oh, yeah.

Speaker 4 (02:37:48):
Hardcore what they say about The oda, trial it was
his son that killed the two And oda took the
fall for.

Speaker 1 (02:37:52):
It that's like the worst of the bad theories come
on the. Shaff so there you. Go because of the,
knives what. Happened he was a chef at one of
The he was a.

Speaker 2 (02:38:04):
Chef, Yeah LIKE i.

Speaker 13 (02:38:05):
Think when they went to the restaurant that, night she
had she had made it very clear TO oj he wasn't.
Invited so that Made juice. Mad and THEN i think,
originally AND i don't know if it's true or, not
that they were they the the the post recitaled dinner
could have been had At jason's restaurant where he was a,

(02:38:26):
chef but they were like, no so double. Whammy so
Clearly jason AND oj got in The bronco and went
over there and sliced up two, people allegedly according To jonathan's.

Speaker 1 (02:38:38):
Theory you, See, jonathan he's got a pH d in
The oj murder and, yes a history professor about like
the invasion Of, poland.

Speaker 4 (02:38:46):
My grandpa The firefather In inglewood and no way so
like and he was with The inglewood you, know random.
Stuff but that's what he told me ABOUT oj stuff
WHEN i growing.

Speaker 1 (02:38:54):
Up that was like it was his, brother you, know
he knew so he, wait wait a, minute your grandpa's
got inside. Info he's just in the departments that he
heard the. Whispers, yeah, yeah the. Department you, know so he.

Speaker 13 (02:39:05):
Knew he knew some of the firefighters In brentwood and
they got together with the firefighters In inglewood and they
had a discussion.

Speaker 2 (02:39:12):
Just like we're doing right. Now that's what they're. Doing, yeah,
yeah all, RIGHT i like that was in action.

Speaker 13 (02:39:18):
Tonight, WELL i was gonna ask sports related how often
did he make a run over to the forum when
it was the only thing out?

Speaker 2 (02:39:23):
There oh, my all the.

Speaker 4 (02:39:24):
Time my, grandma my great grandma was right across the
sulfi in forum he went to say for football and Utub, so.

Speaker 13 (02:39:31):
So you you will be whatever's less than zero surprise about.
This when we went to la in twenty, seventeen ironically
because this was before The World series that year with The, Dodgers,
OKAY i made some, pilgrimages, YEP i got in the.

Speaker 1 (02:39:45):
Car people make pilgrimages TO i don't, know religious buildings
or The holy Sitesop.

Speaker 2 (02:39:54):
Man here's how this. Went it's, like we're, There why
why is The forum Of Pilgrimage.

Speaker 1 (02:40:00):
Because that's Where Ross sampson shot drive that's Where Magic
johnson caught.

Speaker 2 (02:40:03):
It well he didn't catch it at The. FORUM i
think he caught it.

Speaker 13 (02:40:08):
ANYWAY i Told teresa's, like we're there For, disneyland, Right
so we're staying In anaheim And i'm, like, listen you
can either go with me OR i can go by.

Speaker 2 (02:40:19):
Myself But i'm going to these places at some point this.
Week did you go by? Yourself, Well anaheim is Where disney.

Speaker 13 (02:40:26):
Is EVERYTHING i wanted to see was on the other
side OF la, basically and as you, KNOW la has
the worst traffic In america that's Not New.

Speaker 2 (02:40:34):
York SO i get.

Speaker 13 (02:40:35):
In it was a very NICE suv were, rented And i'm,
Like i'm gonna get my money's worth out of this
thing because it was ridiculous because all the taxes In
california and all. That SO i get in And i'm,
like all, right here are my? STOPS i think it
was Is. Compton If i'm coming From, anaheim Is compton Or? Inglewood?
First what AM i going to get? To SO i
drove by The compton, sign took a. Picture who drove

(02:40:56):
by the, forum took a. Picture these are all quick.
STOPS i made my way over, to of, course Knack
Atomy plaza In Sorcery city where The Diehard building, is
took a picture in front of that wonderful and THEN
i made my way over To Gretna, green you know
where she had the nine one one call after he busted,
in when she made the first nine to one one
call and Oh, nicole you know when she made the

(02:41:19):
nine one one call and she was, like he's gonna
come in here and beat me up, again you, know
the one that everybody's.

Speaker 2 (02:41:23):
Heard so she was living at a different. House now
what did you do when you get to this? SITE
i just take. It did you fall to your knees
and start? Crying and it's, LIKE i, mean, Oh i'm not.
Sad i'm happy to be.

Speaker 13 (02:41:32):
There why are you happy to be at a murder?
Site it wasn't a murder. Site this was the first.
HOUSE i told, you you're not listening to, Me SO
i take a picture of, That and then you got
to realize the place where she got sliced up is
actually like less than a quarter mile away down the.
Street SO i go over there AND i take a
picture in the, front and THEN i go around back
where his bronco is. Waiting, yeah And i'm taking a picture,

(02:41:54):
there and the owner got home and he didn't like.
That But i'm, like, what, dude you're the one that
bought this. Place, yeah the garage door starts coming, up
And i'm, like, oh, oh the new owner's.

Speaker 2 (02:42:06):
Home and my, god he didn't like me take, It
but you, no nor should.

Speaker 5 (02:42:10):
He.

Speaker 2 (02:42:11):
Dude you bought the place what you signed up. For
that's why you remodeled the front of.

Speaker 1 (02:42:15):
Him some freak on hud Assassination.

Speaker 13 (02:42:19):
Pilgrima hardly the first or the last people go by
there all the, time does it make?

Speaker 2 (02:42:24):
IT i don't. Care there's no judgment, here just WHAT i.
Do this is WHAT i.

Speaker 13 (02:42:29):
Do do you you don't THINK i went to the
museum In New york as soon as it opened for
the nine to eleven. MEMORIAL i was, There And i've
been To Daley plaza several. TIMES JFK O j nine to.
Eleven these are the ABC's of. Me well more of,
that folks coming up at two. O'CLOCK i feel like
a lot about, today And i'm. Sick, Yeah i'm a sick.

(02:42:50):
Individual yeah you learn to keep your distance? Today didn't you.

Speaker 2 (02:42:55):
Trustmoth your? CHILD i, Promise i'm.

Speaker 1 (02:42:57):
Fine that's a noe for, me, pal But i'm not
going To i'm not gonna have, children So i'm okay
with that all. Right, anyways on that, note thank you
for hanging, Out, Adam, yes, sir appreciate.

Speaker 2 (02:43:06):
You thanks For adam planning to hanging.

Speaker 1 (02:43:07):
Out thanks To Chris gordy for hanging, Out brian, Mctagger
thanks TO Jk allen. Producing thanks to all of you for.
LISTENING i do appreciate. It now you're gonna add into
the mix another. Atom they call themselves THE A, team
so don't go anywhere. There up next here On Sports
talk seven night
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