Astros Take Game 2 vs Diamondbacks 3-1, Brice Matthews Is Showing Us He Isn’t Scared Of The Moment, Jim Bowden Joins The Show

Astros Take Game 2 vs Diamondbacks 3-1, Brice Matthews Is Showing Us He Isn’t Scared Of The Moment, Jim Bowden Joins The Show.

Episode Transcript

Speaker 1 (00:03):
Ten oh one, inn h Town. Good morning, and welcome
to a Wednesday edition of The Matt Thomas Show with Ross.
This is Sports Talk seven ninety. Is Bryce Matthews, our
new iron man sports rv.

Speaker 2 (00:23):
RMP Ozzie Osborn.

Speaker 1 (00:27):
How many games in a row has he played? Well,
I mean it fits right, three two? Well, I mean yeah,
he's missed the Sunday game, so the streaks at two. Okay,
my guess'll be three today when he plays. That's one
thing you can count on, Joe Spot, especially with the
lineup the way it's been. If you get a couple
of hits and we're gonna go with you, Yeah, Tanner Trammell,
you get to play exactly Cooper Hummel.

Speaker 2 (00:49):
Ever since uh, a certain member.

Speaker 1 (00:51):
Of the seven nineties family decided he was gonna get
three hits in a single down. I think he said
three hits in two weeks. But that's neither here nor there.
Good Okay, good morning. We got a really busy edition
of The Matt Thomas Show with Ross here on a Wednesday.
We have a little bit of a shorter show, but
we're gonna be with you the full way, and matter
of fact, we're gonna go to two oh five today
because Astros Baseball actually two ten Astros Baseball starts at

(01:13):
two forty. Yeah, Wexland and Clinton are getting a day off.
There'll be a lot of those coming up. What yeah,
they' w doing no on deck, no tenth inning. You're lazy.
That's why when I said wex you're going to call
us at some point during the show today, Oh good
with a training camp report.

Speaker 2 (01:32):
He's like, because you kind of have to do it.

Speaker 1 (01:34):
He's got his notes, He's got his notes, so we
will go through that today. We have on the radio
show Brian Bogus even coming up at eleven o'clock. We
have a shut your bumbass up at eleven thirty. We
have the news at noon, and Jim Bowden's going to
join us here on the radio show today.

Speaker 2 (01:50):
Really yeah, I booked that like a mother.

Speaker 1 (01:52):
Are you here yesterday?

Speaker 2 (01:53):
Yeah?

Speaker 3 (01:54):
Wow?

Speaker 2 (01:54):
Thanks for paying attention to the pre show tweet?

Speaker 3 (01:57):
I have you needed?

Speaker 1 (01:58):
That's fine? He works for the Athletic MLB Network Radio. Serious,
I mean, I can't you know, I'll start tagging you. No, Well,
I feel terrible worry about I'll do it, Okay, Okay,
I will pledge. As long as I remember and you
can remind me, I will like and retweet it. That's
what I'm like to hear you. Ta we got Yeah,

(02:20):
you don't get to stry. I gotta change the channel.
Oh my god, I have more cowboys talk on ESPN.
Stop me if you're shocked now, I wasn't stopping for that.
What's my girl's name, Molly Carum?

Speaker 2 (02:31):
Oh my god?

Speaker 1 (02:31):
Right, he looks the problem. I can't put it on
any channel. Yeah, you want to put it on like
Sesame Street and you're gonna start staring at big Bird.

Speaker 2 (02:39):
Hold it on and leave it to Beaver. Although missus
Cleaver looked good.

Speaker 1 (02:42):
Do you see what I'm saying here?

Speaker 2 (02:45):
Huh? You figure out the Brady budget?

Speaker 1 (02:47):
Check it out, Alice, Come on, no, no, I was
always Marsha, Marsha, Marsha.

Speaker 2 (02:52):
You know better than that.

Speaker 4 (02:54):
Uh.

Speaker 2 (02:54):
And then we've got uh. We mentioned Jim Bowden.

Speaker 1 (02:57):
We have believe it or not today at one twenty,
which I've already like then loaded and yes you have
all things. I will give you a solid B minus
on your questions. I did them mid eleven forty five
last night. Oh okay, So you want to curve. No,
if I'd have done him at any thirty, you should
have given, you know. And that's what I get out.
I gotten a se plus, you know. But no, they're okay.

(03:17):
They're not fi spectacular, but they did the job. They're
like the Burger King of believe it or not questions.
They're like the Matt Tommy Show with for us at
the set of ninety lineup. Yeah, well we're here. I mean,
we're not great. There's better alternatives out there, but you'll
take us once in a while. I like that, all right,
So look, let's put things in perspective here for a second.

(03:37):
So Bryce Matthews goes against you know, two really good
Seattle pitchers and strikes out a bunch and does get
his first hit, I believe, in the last game in
that Seattle series, and then winds up getting a home run.
Right then he hits uh no, his first rum was
the first two were in Arizona.

Speaker 2 (03:57):
I should say, yeah, it was. It's his first hit
in Seattle.

Speaker 1 (04:00):
Uh huh. Then he goes to Arizona where he's going
against Zach Gallan. Not bad now that not having a
good year. But yeah, Rodriguez kid's not very good. Although
you pitch a lot better yesterday.

Speaker 3 (04:11):
What do you mean?

Speaker 1 (04:12):
He looked great against the Astros until that ball hit
him in the league and then they said, yeah, or
done anyway, get out of here.

Speaker 5 (04:18):
Uh.

Speaker 1 (04:20):
He went from completely overmatched to when is the next
opportunity for him to get on the road to get
the Sugarland to get some more seasoning, to my god,
where would the Astros be if he was not available
to this team in the last two games against the Diamondbacks.
It's It's incredible how sports and base moments. I'm glad
you said sports because I was going to say the

(04:41):
same thing. One of the things that I love about
constantly watching sports and me having a career there is
you never know what to expect. You think things are
happening one way, and then boom, they flip on their head.
That first weekend against the Rangers, he looked completely Jack
Glider's like, here's one hundred miles an hour, buddy, see
see how this goes. And he she's striking out three
of his first four plate appearances, and I'm like, oh

(05:03):
my god, he is he is underwater.

Speaker 2 (05:06):
He he is well in over his head.

Speaker 1 (05:10):
And then literally a couple of weeks later, Dude's got
three home runs in two games and a slick as
you heard a moment ago, a slick defensive double play,
yes in the game, very well played by him, and
and there had been some talk about his defensive prowess.
Everything was He's not what did Joe A. Spotty use

(05:32):
a term.

Speaker 2 (05:35):
Finished product?

Speaker 1 (05:35):
Yeah, yeah, yeah, And I still think you watch him
and you go, okay, could have taken a better route
or probably should have got to that ball. But the
reality is this, they would rather take a seventy percent
Bryce Matthews and put him at the second base spot
as compared to one hundred percent Hoosel too. Now that
we don't love Jose, not that he's not willing to
play second base, but the range is very, very unlimited.

Speaker 2 (05:58):
The arm is not there like he used to be.
He held his own honestly.

Speaker 5 (06:02):
He did.

Speaker 2 (06:02):
He's thirty five years old.

Speaker 1 (06:03):
I mean, let's be honest, he's thirty five decline and
my guess is there will be more days of him dhing,
especially when some if any of the mainstays do come back.
While you're smiling over there, I just was wondering how
you're going to finish that sentence, No optimistically or pessimistic. No, no,
there there is nothing. And I say, Dana Brown is
a few minutes ago on with Sean and God love him,

(06:26):
Dana's got that glass three quarters full. I think I
said this on the post game Monday. If there's one
drop of water in Dana's glass, he's calling it half full.
And frankly, that's what you're supposed to do as a
general manager when you're speaking of your players. Now, there's
a difference between being fully optimistic and telling the truth.

(06:49):
And I don't look Dana's not coming on that. Shawn
Salisbury showed a lot in his mind. He believes the
reports he's getting about Spencer Arraghetty and Christian Javier and
Luis Garcia and Jeremy Paana and Jordan Alvarez all things
that he wants to see, but recon and getting on

(07:12):
the roster and playing and contributing or two different things.
And so as he was running through the different pictures,
he was saying, yeah, roget he's got three going. Garcias
the two Javiers, the two innings, JP almost as the
two And I'm like, this is all well and good,
but you're supposed to as a major league pitcher, go
to six and throw one one hundred pitches in theory. Now,

(07:35):
that doesn't mean you can't rev up to that, Yeah,
because you do have a lot of guys basically going
through spring training. So that's why I said Ross yesterday,
especially when it came to Righetti. We're gonna treat this
like this as late February for the guys I just mentioned,
and there's going to be no hurry, and there shouldn't
be any hurry because A the team is doing okay,
holding up, holding its head above water, and B.

Speaker 2 (07:58):
They're not ready yet.

Speaker 1 (07:59):
When somebody's at two innings, that means they're not ready
to play major League bass, but they're not far off.
You can only have Major League rules dictate that if
you trigger a rehab stint, you only have thirty days.
So they're all on rehab. I believe Javier Garcia France,
and uh, who am I missing somebody? Er Garcia Ergy? Yeah,

(08:20):
I think Garcia rogon. Well, how about this, It's like
we're playing bingo with all these pictures coming back.

Speaker 3 (08:26):
Ask this.

Speaker 1 (08:28):
And I really, I guess I should know this, and
I apologize for it, but I don't what if you
are not ready, what do you then do? Put them
back on the angel list again? I mean you already
have to go back to the IL, I think, but
you're already on the I L Yeah, I don't know.
I don't know exactly. I think you have to be
called up. I think if they weren't that close, then
they wouldn't have started the rehab.

Speaker 2 (08:45):
I gotta ask that question.

Speaker 1 (08:46):
Okay, I'm gonna text somebody right now because I really
don't know if you because I mean the theory think
about this. You put the second base Brendan Rodgers was
like which one on the injure list? Yes, he went
to rehabit at well the Sugarland and he got hurt. Yeah,
so you can put him back. Yeah, but he never left.

(09:07):
That's what I'm saying. There's got to be some sort
of parameter too. You mean that means you can't compete,
doesn't mean you got to be shut down. I don't know,
but my mind is maybe you have to go to
the sixty day because that's what he did.

Speaker 3 (09:19):
Yeah.

Speaker 2 (09:19):
I don't know that's true. He did go to that.

Speaker 1 (09:21):
All I'm saying is I'm going to maintain my commonstance
of when they show up, they show up. Any other
word I hear is just food for thought. Yeah, fodder.
My caveat was rehab. I start to get a little intrigued,
didn't I'm intrigued. Matt errag Getty rehabbing. He threw, Yeah,
three innings a few days ago, was supposed to start

(09:42):
this week.

Speaker 2 (09:43):
He sounds like he's the one that's having the most fun.

Speaker 4 (09:46):
Yeah.

Speaker 1 (09:46):
Javier through three innings with Corpus Christi on the eighteenth,
so he should be due for another start. That was
the last Friday, and uh yeah, reporting to Triple A
sugar Land this week. Javier sounds like he's pretty close.
I know, we don't want to get our homes up.

Speaker 6 (10:05):
I know.

Speaker 1 (10:06):
Don't make that face. Guess what I'm not doing it.
Don't make that face.

Speaker 2 (10:11):
When he's happy. I'll bro hung him.

Speaker 1 (10:13):
Really yeah, I'd stay away from him. Well I didn't
anything wrong, just in case, all right, I'll stay away.
Don't you trip it on anything. Oh my gosh, all right.
Eleven o'clock. Bogus Sevic, shut your bow mass up. Eleven thirty.
Jim Bowden, MLB Network and CBS Sports and Serious XM
Radio will join us at one o'clock and believe it

(10:36):
or not today one twenty all things about Ozzy Osburn's
like gonna be minus on I get it. You sometimes
you're yesterday you had an A plus and so oh
there's days I have a D. I'm fought. Wait what
clip that? Ten thirteen? Some days he's got a D.
You heard it. We're talking about letter grades. You heard
the ten fourteen You always be a child seven one

(10:59):
three two one two five seven hunder of the entries, Yes,
seven one three two one two five seven ninety. I
had a tweet last night that I tweeted out at
about eleven o'clock. Let me check my views count on this,
and I didn't expected to have this kind of run,
but it did, and the views count is twenty one thousand.

(11:21):
What did I say? That gained twenty one thousand views?
We're also proud of you, Matt.

Speaker 2 (11:25):
No, you shouldn't be proud.

Speaker 1 (11:26):
I'm just saying that people were thinking it and I
was thinking it too, because I thought was pretty clever
that plus a Texans running back will not be participating
in training camp activities. It's an important one ten fourteen
Sports Talk seven ninety. So we all like to be
funny on Twitter. If we're not like boring disinformation with people,

(11:48):
we like to be witty and charming to gain reaction,
usually a haha, or you're crazy or something like that, okay,
Or we like to attack people viciously. I don't do
that very often. I usually just attack back. If you
have been and going after me, it's the anonymous accounts. Yeah,
so I asked people to photoshop Bryce and Bob Barker

(12:09):
on the Bryce is right. Of course you wanted to
tell me that he's dead and I was aware of
that and it still hurts Ross and thank you for
bringing that up. So in my attempt, you're welcome to
my attempt to be amusing late night Okay, I last night.
Let me see what time I try to replace Stephen Colbert? Yeah,
and a lot cheaper price. By the way, I put

(12:31):
this out at let's say a time. What time was
I eleven thirty one at night? Fourteen comments, forty one retweets,
seven hundred and eighty nine likes with twenty.

Speaker 2 (12:44):
One thousand views. Wow, great job, Matt.

Speaker 3 (12:46):
It is not great.

Speaker 2 (12:46):
I'm getting out of it.

Speaker 1 (12:48):
I mean, I am legit media, so I mean I
can use my social media for just set the show
not and try to make money off of it. Keep
Bryce Matthews away from Scott Boris too soon, matt Come on,
first of all, you don't know how things are gonna
play out with Hunter Brown, Oh I do? Or Jeremy Panya,
Oh I do? And Bryce can sign with whoever he wants.

(13:13):
He's under team control for a very long time.

Speaker 2 (13:15):
Yes he is.

Speaker 1 (13:16):
But however, however, now again, I did this ninety nine
point nine nine joking.

Speaker 2 (13:25):
I know there's actually took it seriously.

Speaker 1 (13:27):
I would hope nobody took it serious good But my
point is that that if he progresses over the next
year and a half, this would be a very good
case of a guy that you would buy arbitration years
out of course to create a better relationship of you know,
some financial freedom that Bryce under the current system would
not have. So again, long way to go before this,

(13:50):
long way. By the way, I did hit on a
gut feeling. You did, and that.

Speaker 2 (13:55):
Was home run, home run within the next week for
Bryce Matthews.

Speaker 1 (13:59):
He did it.

Speaker 2 (13:59):
That he did very impactful.

Speaker 1 (14:02):
Yes, seven RBIs in that nice thank you seven RBIs
that audio wasn't clipped and played at the beginning of
the show. That's crazy.

Speaker 2 (14:11):
Huh, why do you do that?

Speaker 3 (14:12):
There?

Speaker 2 (14:13):
That works?

Speaker 1 (14:13):
You know what? What you know?

Speaker 2 (14:14):
That's weird?

Speaker 1 (14:15):
I don't remember that I get something wrong. Boom, it's
like a flip to It's turned around like a like
a big mac flipped up and ready to go to all.

Speaker 2 (14:25):
Be patties, Yes, special sauce an letters and she and a.

Speaker 1 (14:28):
Ross wrong opinion. I want to get something right, man,
you don't want to show that's crazy. You got you
a jumbo jack correction there? Correct one there that works? No, No,
it's all right. No, I don't even want it. It's fine.

Speaker 2 (14:41):
Just find it funny, just find it curious.

Speaker 1 (14:43):
Anyway.

Speaker 2 (14:44):
It's easier to ac cent your mistakes, I know, try
to tear me down. It's fine. How's it working? Not well?

Speaker 1 (14:51):
I feeling pretty good?

Speaker 2 (14:52):
Yeah, all right?

Speaker 1 (14:53):
Seven? One, three, two five seven? Way do we get
a hazard paperworking? These late night? You did it a
couple of nights ago. I was until twelve thirty Monday night.
It's just I got the long ass drying. You were
until twelve thirty last year. And Adam and Adam are
off today and they're completely off today.

Speaker 2 (15:11):
Zero yes, not even working.

Speaker 1 (15:13):
By the way, it's because myself and Chris Cordy will
be handling postgame Slash live taping of Crawford Box Cast
duties out at Carbox Brewing Pizza and Pints.

Speaker 2 (15:21):
If you want to come by, I'm busy, but I
would go if I wasn't busy.

Speaker 1 (15:25):
Can I tell you a secret? A little I'm gonna
be a little honest, not really shut it out. I'm
gonna take you a secret.

Speaker 2 (15:30):
Yeah.

Speaker 1 (15:31):
I didn't like the pizza from Pizza and Pints when
they first opened, but they they've made the crust better.
It's better now. It's good. You a thin crush or
thick crust. Guy, I'm like both. A little pan, little
deep dish, little thin crust. Why can't I like it all?

Speaker 3 (15:44):
Matte?

Speaker 1 (15:45):
I like Detroit style about once every couple of months.
They can get a little doughe Now I understand it
gets a little It's like a brick in your stomach. Yeah, yeah,
all right, let's go to a gym in Missouri. But
it's wood fired delicious pizza. Mat Sorry, go ahead. Good
morning to Erica stuck stuck getting distracted by MLB reporters.
I have it on here because again. The Giants and

(16:06):
Braves are on at eleven and for for thirty five minutes.
You can't stay undistracted. Good morning to Erica Weston Jim
Missouri City on seven.

Speaker 2 (16:15):
I need Jim. Good morning, Hey Matt, How are you good?

Speaker 1 (16:19):
How are you?

Speaker 3 (16:20):
I'm doing well?

Speaker 5 (16:21):
Just wanted to before I get to my quick comments
on the Astros. Rest in peace to the Prince of
Darkness Ozzy Osbourne. I'm fifty seven years old, having outgrown
my rock and roll in about twelve or thirteen years ago.
When I took that first album, Blizzard of Oz for
a spin, it kind of rocked my world. He was

(16:43):
just an incredible music artists, you know they call the
godfather of heavy metal. Those first two albums with solo
career Diary Blizzard of Oz and Diary of mad Man
with Randy Rhoades before unfortunately Randy Roach died in that
plane crash at a very young age, were just incredible.

Speaker 3 (17:01):
And he's just pumped out so much good rock and
roll music over the years. And I saw him in
eighth grade.

Speaker 5 (17:08):
My mom, God Rest her soul and God Lover took
me in eighth grade with a couple of buddies of mine.

Speaker 3 (17:13):
We went to the sam used To Coliseum and saw Ozzy, And.

Speaker 5 (17:16):
It was that year right before he had that little
experience over at the Alamo.

Speaker 3 (17:20):
I don't know if that's one of your believe it
or not.

Speaker 5 (17:21):
It is where okay, I'm gonna leave alone where that
you know, it was during that he bit in the
other thing with the bat and Randy Rhad dying shortly after.
It was like maybe a concert or two after that
Houston concert. So I never had on my Bengo card
that he would make it to seventy six. I mean,
if anybody, if anybody that can say, hold my beer

(17:44):
on living a full life, Ozzy was it. My My
Twitter and Facebook was blowing up, which constant feeds of posts,
not only just people in the rock and roll by
I mean we're talking other you know, other non rock
and roll artists, people in government. Even the my Twitter

(18:05):
feed was posting with them. There was a Texas History
like Touch of Texas I think as an account or something,
and they had a story about Ozzie in the whole
incident at the Alamo and and what he did to
come back and make amends. I mean, he was a
you know, he was an icon and uh, man could
not believe he lived this long.

Speaker 1 (18:26):
That is That's exactly I think the the conversation being
talked about is how does that man that has ingested
and done all the things that he did was able
to live as long as he did?

Speaker 5 (18:36):
So, hey, have you seen have you seen his early
two thousands attempt to see take me out to the
ballgame at a customer?

Speaker 1 (18:44):
Yeah, that is legendary that that's very much viral on
even to this day.

Speaker 3 (18:48):
Yeah. Yeah, I mean just that was That's Ozzy.

Speaker 5 (18:51):
But anyway, hey, just really I want to may to
talk about that with the Astros. Just watching that game
yesterday and you guys talking to Bryce Matthews. I continue
to look at this franchise and I'm looking what in
the ninth inning third base, Shay Whitcomb, shortstop, Zach short
second base. Bryce Matthews, I'm sorry, are we watching the
space I mean we're literally watching three fourths of the infield.

Speaker 3 (19:14):
Uh with this that we're space cowboys.

Speaker 5 (19:16):
It was just and they freaking turn into incredible double
play finding ways to win. I mean, I'm just hoping,
you know, let's just get these keep guys healthy. The
one that we're not talking about a whole lot that
I really do hope can like get well, I mean,
can get productive quickly if he gets healthy. Is Melton

(19:37):
got I'd love to see him in centerfield being productive,
of course, if he can get back. So that's the
one I'm really I mean, obviously everyone every one of
us wants yored On and and the pitchers, but man
to be cool if Melton could just kind of like
make contributions to be healthy, because that guy's I mean,
he's not.

Speaker 3 (19:56):
He wasn't one of our top prospects for nothing.

Speaker 2 (19:58):
So and that's the wor And thank you for the
phone called Jim and the memories.

Speaker 1 (20:03):
Uh yeah, meltains Hell's always been a little bit of
an issue, but it hasn't precluded the Astros from trying
to bring him up here. And you know, obviously very
still highly regarded among major league prospects. And back to
his first point. He goes to see Ozzi is his
first concert. Yes, mine was Chicago. The social kind of

(20:23):
things are a little different in life. Mine was Puff Daddy,
Mace Low, Kim Buster Rhymes and Usher and the No
Way Out to our nineteen ninety seven. Actually, I need
a ruling if I wouldn't and gasaw, you know what,
I think? I did not go to the after party. No, no,
actually I think my first concert I was like five
years old was Captain Taneil. Okay, I'm pineapp It was

(20:43):
like a Miller outdoor theater in Detroit. Is explaining a lot,
Actually I should, it should. Yeah, if you're watching the Astros,
you're going what, who is doing what? And how are
they making these plays? Like Cooper Hummel made a great
play yesterday. I mean, you got guys being the defense
has kept his team alive. Yeah, and that's what so
many different guys playing different positions.

Speaker 2 (21:05):
I don't know how they're doing it.

Speaker 3 (21:07):
I don't know either. I'm sorry.

Speaker 1 (21:08):
I was thinking about that eight by ten A little
Kim I bought she was in a bikini. How was
a little Kim right now? No, don't care. I should
look he was looking great in ninety seven. I'm telling
you that, Okay.

Speaker 2 (21:18):
I got you. Glad your focuses on the show.

Speaker 1 (21:21):
What oh, hold on, hold on, you're staring at reporters
the whole show.

Speaker 2 (21:25):
I don't want to hear it.

Speaker 1 (21:26):
We both got issues, Yes, we do, beautiful one. We're
gonna rename the show. Yeah, a couple of grown ass
men staring at photos of women in TV guilty seven
one three two one two five seven ninety seven one
three two one two five. Also, uh, not great that
he named it the No Way Out Tour.

Speaker 2 (21:47):
M Well, it was the name of the album.

Speaker 1 (21:51):
I'm Gonna give you one of My Believer or Not
as a bonus price for those who listened at one
twenty this Afternoon seven one three two one two five
seven hoey, I did, and I didn't do it intentionally,
because I can intentionally dismiss something because I don't like
it myself.

Speaker 2 (22:07):
I did not mean to dismiss the impact.

Speaker 1 (22:11):
As to the previous caller, Facebook and Twitter, we're going
nuts over people that were big fans of Ozzy Osbourne
and Black Sabbath. I mean huge, huge, huge, hard early rock,
I mean metal. Just yes, get at You and it's funny.
We played iron Man earlier, and the reason why I

(22:31):
play that is because I fell in love with that
song because my favorite wrestling tag team of the eighties
came out to iron Man. Oh really. Yeah, before they
copyrighted a law said you can't use other people's music. Yeah,
so the road Warriors came out to Iron Man, and
that's why I fell in love with the song.

Speaker 2 (22:49):
Do you know they were gonna call it Iron Bloke?
I did not.

Speaker 1 (22:53):
I'm like, how horrible would that have been? Doesn't sound great?
Sound great at all?

Speaker 2 (23:00):
That's not a myth? Right, let me look that up,
all right?

Speaker 1 (23:02):
Would you like, Yeah, you read some something in our
day that was not true and you thought, oh, it
was about the chlorine in the pool. Oh no, it's
on Wikipedia. It's gotta be real. Iron Bloke was going
to be the name of the song. Would you like
the freebie on today's edition of Believe It or Not? Absolutely? Matt,
all right, any password? What's surprise?

Speaker 7 (23:21):
Uh?

Speaker 2 (23:22):
We're playing for those Big three tickets?

Speaker 1 (23:23):
And that where you going?

Speaker 3 (23:25):
We're going?

Speaker 2 (23:26):
What is that other one called? Where you at the party?

Speaker 3 (23:30):
At it?

Speaker 1 (23:31):
Nelly and Ashanti or something?

Speaker 2 (23:32):
Yeah? I didn't know.

Speaker 1 (23:34):
Nelly and Ashante got back together and they have a
reality show. Sounds good, right?

Speaker 2 (23:38):
Yeah?

Speaker 1 (23:39):
It's Nellie, joh Rule and Eve. Where the party at
tour September fourth at the Woodlands Pavilion, Noah Shanty, No,
It's busy. Tickets are on sale ticketmaster dot Com for
that Tota Center dot com for the Big Three. The
party at tour is September the fourth. The Big Three
is August second, so we'll be giving any prizes to that.
Now here comes your freebie? Now that's a Jagged Edge song.

(24:02):
Why isn't Jagged Edge on this tour? Bringing up with him?
I'm only reading when it being told to read. Can
we get Nelly on the phone? Do we have their number? His?

Speaker 8 (24:15):
His?

Speaker 2 (24:15):
Whatever? Can Bun get us to to Nelly?

Speaker 1 (24:18):
I don't know. They probably probably knows all them, I'm sure.
I mean, how long would it take for bunn to
get us a super megastar celebrity musical performer on the show. Well,
if he really wanted to? Yeah, is he gonna, assuming
he's going to respond to your text? Not very long.

Speaker 2 (24:33):
I must see when you go on vacation, bun will
do a couple of hours with me. Oh man, that'll
make me really jealous mad and Bundy, you don't do that?
Are you sure?

Speaker 1 (24:40):
I'm like a hop off vacation and come back. I
actually know who Bunby is and respect what he means
in the zero context. No, you have zero stop. Queen
loves me, I mean Queeny and here should do the
show with me. Here's your here's your freebie today. A
lifelong Beatles fan, their song she Loves You inspire Ozzie

(25:00):
to become a musician.

Speaker 2 (25:02):
That is a believe it And I'll give you one knot?
Would you like one?

Speaker 6 (25:06):
Not?

Speaker 9 (25:06):
No?

Speaker 2 (25:07):
All right, we'll fine.

Speaker 6 (25:09):
Umm.

Speaker 1 (25:11):
Ozzie was scheduled to be the musical act in a
nineteen eighty one episode of Saturday Night Live, but executive
producer Lorne Michael's canceled it at the last second for
fear of him being high or drunk on the set.

Speaker 2 (25:20):
That is a knot.

Speaker 8 (25:23):
Okay.

Speaker 1 (25:24):
There's your two freebies, okay, and we'll play in the
game at one twenty this afternoon, so be ready for that.
Brian Bocusvik joining us in a couple of hours, all right,
real quick. On the Texans, today is day one of
practice and Wax is gonna come call us at some point.

Speaker 2 (25:39):
I don't know what it is. He's going to get
a camp report.

Speaker 1 (25:42):
Yeah great, it's not a sponsored by anybody, but that's fine.
We could try, that's true. We could try. The Texans
announcing a bunch of injuries as they normally would on
day number one, ummm, let's see physically unable to perform list.
Denico Audrey he's old, He's not gonna worry about it.

(26:04):
Damian Pierce on the list. That was a little bit
of a surprise. Jimmy Ward not on surprise.

Speaker 9 (26:09):
J J.

Speaker 1 (26:10):
Taylor another running back on there a little bit of
a surprise. Tink Dell on there not a surprise. Trent Brown, God,
he's huge. He's six eight three eighty. You think it's
you think it's fat or do you think it's muscle?

Speaker 5 (26:24):
Lean?

Speaker 2 (26:24):
Mean machine? I mean he's got some fat.

Speaker 10 (26:27):
Yeah.

Speaker 1 (26:27):
I don't think anybody's six eighty three eighty's gotta be
he's gotta be lean. They'll get a little bulk on
you if you're an offensive lineman.

Speaker 8 (26:32):
Yeah.

Speaker 1 (26:33):
But here's the name on the physically on the non
football injury list, Joe Mixon non football injury list. Now,
I don't know what that means as compared to the
other ones. And a disc golf injury and the off
season or something. Well, I mean, you don't know exactly.
My guess is he had some sort of surgery that

(26:55):
says that it's a it's a bad foot.

Speaker 2 (26:57):
Is what it is.

Speaker 1 (26:58):
Okay, not worried week one. See you then he was
in a boot throughout the spring.

Speaker 2 (27:05):
You remember I.

Speaker 1 (27:06):
Told you that was the second biggest thing I was
gonna pay attention to. The offensive line I think is
by far the number one thing everyone's going to concern
themselves with, and I think the running back room would
be the second one. Okay, so I'll have to do
a great start. No, I mean, I don't want to
read too much into it because I'm not a breakdown guy.
But I don't think it's a great sign. I'm not worried.

(27:30):
Niek Chubb's like, I got this, We're in your do
on mode. I'm not worried until this let me know
if he's gonna play or not. Do you think the
Texans could be the Astros in terms of injuries issue? No,
I don't think so.

Speaker 2 (27:40):
Could anybody be as bad as the Astros?

Speaker 5 (27:42):
One?

Speaker 1 (27:42):
This is historic. What's happening to the Astros?

Speaker 7 (27:44):
Right?

Speaker 1 (27:45):
Seventeen guys in the eye ols? Yeah, ridiculous, It's absolutely ridiculous.
For sure, We're gonna hear from Dana Brown coming up
in the next segment, because I want you to hear
a little bit what Dana had to say. About the
variety of ailments. And as we said talking with you
a little earlier in the show, he's significantly more optimistic
than I would be.

Speaker 2 (28:03):
Now he's in the room and I'm not.

Speaker 1 (28:05):
But I've also been there and done that, And I
also know the general manager speak does not necessarily mean
talk shows. So we also know Dana Brown and who
he is and how he talks, and in a lot
of times he's going to be very, very optimistic, and
so sometimes you do maybe have to take that with
a grain of salt. I like that he has that disposition.
You're going to go through life and you're gonna be
one of the other I would choose optimism, but yet

(28:26):
to take what he says with the grain of salt.
This is how it is. You know, what really unfortunately
got me was Kyle Tucker's helmet last year that I
think that that was the one injury that made me go,
I'm going to take a step back of being hopeful,
and again I want all those guys to return. It's
imperative that they return. His team as scrappy as they

(28:47):
have been and is competitive, and the fact that Bryce
Matthews is becoming a hero so many different guys are
stepping up.

Speaker 2 (28:54):
There's a bigger fish to fry it.

Speaker 1 (28:56):
You're not just wanting the American League West to send
This is fun season you like to do so up
been really really fun. But those the guys that are
not here would be the reasons why you would win
such an event, and you can't do it if they're
not here. Well, yeah, and I totally understand being just
not one hundred percent trusting with the Astros, but the
Tucker ailment really got to me. Yeah, I think it

(29:19):
got to everybody. That's when a lot of this kind
of started rolling downhill. The fact that how long they
they hit it, and then it wasn't even going to
be reported that he had a fracture until I believe
Chandler rom and the Athletic We're going to report it.
And then they're like, all right, fine, he's got a
fracture because they were gonna they weren't gonna tell us
the truth.

Speaker 2 (29:37):
Well, they kept going, what were they kept going with? Uh, oh,
a bruise.

Speaker 1 (29:40):
That's why you need great reporters in this town like
we have with Chandler are Well, you need you need yeah,
you need reporting period.

Speaker 2 (29:46):
And Matt Kawahara. Yeah, I mean if you if you
rely exclusively.

Speaker 1 (29:50):
On the teams. And this is the unfortunate trend in
today's sports. Teams are now hiring people to write and
report for them that are only going to give you
the positive spin on things.

Speaker 2 (30:03):
I believe.

Speaker 1 (30:03):
I don't know who said it, who said journalism is
printing something that someone does not want printed.

Speaker 2 (30:10):
Now again, everything else is pr Now.

Speaker 1 (30:12):
What you don't want is you don't want hatchet jobs like, oh,
I'll be the opposite of Texans dot com or Rockets
dot Comorastros dot com. I will, I will go out
of my way to make things negative.

Speaker 2 (30:22):
You just want fair reporting.

Speaker 3 (30:24):
That's it.

Speaker 1 (30:25):
Because I will say this, and Chandler has said this,
meant multiple times you're not a fan of the team.
But Chandler is around these twenty six or thirty or
thirty five guys all the time. I can't imagine that
there is hatred. He would like to cover a team
that is winning because that means his subscribers are growing

(30:45):
and people are reading his stuff. Nobody wants to read
stuff about a team that's I guarantee you the Athletics
Rockies beat writer. He's sitting there writing stuff to no
one's reading. They might not even have one. Do they
have a Pirates guy? It is weird. The Athletic has
a Rockets guy. It has an Astros guy still in
the text, but no Texans guy. They had one. We

(31:06):
used to have him on Aaron something. Reece Reese yes,
our Ei s s yes, yeah, all right. Ten forty
four Dana Brown conversation is coming up, and we got
Brian bogask in fifteen minutes here on the Matt Thomas Show.
Would Ross seven one three two one two five seven
nine zero ten minutes on the Matt Thomas Show, would Ross.

(31:27):
If you'd like to be a part of the program,
you may do so. Seven one three two one two
five seven Ross. And we got shut your bumb ass
up at eleven thirty today.

Speaker 2 (31:35):
You ready for that?

Speaker 1 (31:37):
I think so? To me Madden, do you get mad
at somebody this week? I've had a pretty peaceful week.
Why are they putting Meghane Stallion from the Astros game on?
Wait a minute, wait, you're crushing me earlier?

Speaker 8 (31:50):
All right?

Speaker 1 (31:51):
Okay, Meghan thee stallion're around. I'm David Hensley, highlight of
his life, all right, Megan these down. This game needs
to start. Meghan is a Stallion thorough Bred. Here we go,
isn't she with?

Speaker 2 (32:07):
Uh? She's with Klay Thompson now right.

Speaker 1 (32:10):
Yeah, they were at throwing first pitch at the Rangers
game in other day. So Klay Thompson crushes the rockets
my entire life. He's making all these clutch threes. He's
got four NBA championships untold millions of dollars, and he's
dating Meghan the Stallions.

Speaker 2 (32:25):
And Caesar Naked, probably on a semi regular basis.

Speaker 1 (32:27):
My god.

Speaker 2 (32:28):
All right, let's segue into Dane Brown.

Speaker 1 (32:30):
All right, you will play the sound bite and you
and I will comment, well it said sound bite? Okay, sorry, focus,
let's go all right, here we are Dana Brown.

Speaker 5 (32:40):
Uh.

Speaker 1 (32:40):
Let's see. How about updates on your Don Alvarez and
Jeremy Penya.

Speaker 4 (32:47):
Yeah, very close. I mean Penya may go out on
a rehab at the end of this week. You know
there's a chance to do him doing that. You know,
I'm watching video every day of that.

Speaker 3 (32:56):
They're sending me. Uh.

Speaker 4 (32:58):
With his progression, he looks you know, your nine is
paying free and we're gradually building him up. Uh with
with mixing in the day off, and so you know,
that looks really good, and so I I think it's yes.
We I mean, we should be getting these guys back
and and they're they're going to be very important to
our run. You know, I think Pinya may be the

(33:19):
first guy back. But I think, you know.

Speaker 9 (33:22):
It's looking good.

Speaker 4 (33:23):
It's looking really good for for our position player.

Speaker 1 (33:32):
I'm waiting for you to talk you okay, I'm staying consistent.
Thank you for asking when when they repair, I'll be
beyond excited. Dana Brown on a plan for Alvarez.

Speaker 4 (33:47):
Oh yeah, very excited about August for him. And and
so what we're going to do is increase the intensity
on the on the you know, the swings and so
as we continue to build that out and he's paying
free the day after, those are all good signs that
we can increase it even more. And so as we
progress through this thing, you know, we feel very comfortable

(34:10):
that we're gonna get him back, you know, hopefully sooner
rather than later. And if he continues to progress in
this manner and so, uh, those are all good things.
And as I mentioned, we're gonna try to increase the
intensity and if he continues to be paying free, we
can continue to increase the intensity and notch the tell

(34:31):
tale tests, and uh, he's been doing well so far,
so we're just we're thankful.

Speaker 3 (34:44):
Man.

Speaker 1 (34:44):
This is a lot of sunshines and rainbows. When two
days ago we had quotes from jord On saying that
the hand needs surgery, but where it is the injury,
they can't get surgery, and that he's gonna have to
basically deal with the pain all season.

Speaker 2 (35:05):
All right, you're not talking, but your silence is speaking volumes. Matt, Well,
I don't and this is radio, so people can't.

Speaker 1 (35:11):
See that he's making droopy dog faces. Folks, this is
not good. Okay, I'm getting mixed, very much mixed messages.

Speaker 2 (35:29):
I understand, and let me and let's dumb it down
even further.

Speaker 1 (35:32):
Okay, okay, If he is pain free, which he's not, No,
he just Dana just said he was. If he is, again,
I'm just this is this is me, not this is
me asking a question. If he is pain free, that
would then mean you would want to play because you
would be pain free. Correct, yes, Because connecting the very

(36:00):
convoluted dots would mean I put him back out there.
He swings the ball hard four times, swings the bat
four times? Would that incur pain? I mean, are you
not playing him because you don't want it to be
in pain? But again taking it? It's it's dumb ast
If he's pain free, he should be playing mm hmm,

(36:22):
or at least not ramping up and hitting off a
tee and soft toss or whatever we're talking here or
we're hearing about. Now, if you wanted to say, and again,
this is this is very minutia. Okay, so I'm not
I'm not trying to dissect here. But if you wanted
to say, we are looking for four to five or
six days of pain free, then I go, oh, that

(36:43):
makes kind of some sense. Yeah, no, days were given
just sooner rather than later. You know how I hate
that first. I want that phrase barred. Why because it's
first of one was a stupid saying do you want
it sooner rather than later? When does anybody want something
lighter rather than soon? Even those sooner is later? You
can want some things later rather than sooner. Your death, Okay,

(37:06):
give me another one. Uh, your daughter going.

Speaker 2 (37:10):
Off to college. I'm not feeling I'm not feeling that.

Speaker 6 (37:15):
Man.

Speaker 1 (37:15):
I'm gonna miss hurt. But I'm looking forward to What
are you looking forward to getting rid of your daughter? No,
I want to I want She's worked her ass off
to play college volleyball, then I wanted to go do it. Okay,
all right, besides death, put you all little quiz on this.
Send me some tweets at sports empt Okay, give me
something in life, and Jonathan, you could jump on on this.

Speaker 2 (37:34):
Give me something you'd rather have later rather than sooner.

Speaker 1 (37:38):
Okay, I'll do other things, succession in later rather than sooner?
Oh the TV series. You'd rather have your colonospy later
rather than sooner. Yeah, but you gotta eventually have it. Yeah,
but you'd rather have it later than sooner, or you
want sooner rather than later. I mean, that's up to you.

Speaker 2 (37:53):
I'm start calling you, mister stretch.

Speaker 3 (37:56):
Lord.

Speaker 2 (37:56):
What was that you ask me a question? I know
I'm not liking your answer.

Speaker 1 (38:00):
I get it. It's like dealing with you during to
tell the truth. You don't let my opinion, you just
destroy it. That's fine, I get it. Something okay, later,
an audit, an audit by the irs. Yeah, you'd rather
much later than sooner. Yeah, I actually'd rather than had
that at all. Yeah, that's true arthritis, Arthur writis. I'd

(38:20):
rather have later rather than sooner. Like at twenty three,
you don't want arthoritis. At sixty three you're kind of expecting. Okay,
we we can see. I know we got more Danta
to get to at the how about at the top
of the hour, I know we have Brian Bogas and
then some more Dana. Okay, all right, and more Bogus.
Bogey's gonna bring us some great stuff. I know he
always does.

Speaker 2 (38:40):
Shut your ball.

Speaker 1 (38:40):
Mass Up is coming up at thirty minutes from now,
and ain't nobody got time for that? With Ross eleven
oh one, Sports Talk seven ninety Matt and Ross with
you here and our regular Wednesday visitor, always a friend
of the show, is Brian bogos Evic of Space City,
Home Network and the He is here to join us

(39:02):
to talk about what is an incredible run for a
man with such a little experience, from going against the
Rangers in Seattle pitching staff to going to Arizona and
owning the building. Brian, I think everybody, including Bryce Matthews,
would have to be stunned at the way things are
turned around in his first ten major League baseball games.

Speaker 8 (39:22):
Yeah, I think, you know, any rookie coming in for
the first time is just trying to get to a
place to where, Okay, I feel comfortable, I can contribute,
I feel like I'm playing my game. But to go
you know, a couple of games stretch where I'm basically
carrying the offense and winning games for a team that
is trying to just find ways to win games. At

(39:43):
this point. It's a crazy turnaround, I think. Also, you know,
it's not really a soft landing spot for your first
introduction to major league pitching when you're seeing you know,
the Rangers starters and the Mariners starters, So that might
have something to do with it also, But yeah, it's
happened quickly.

Speaker 1 (40:00):
When you hear about a player who may not be
ready yet. And that's exactly Joe A. Spot didn't say
it bluntly like that, but he's like, you know what,
still a work in progress, still has things to learn.

Speaker 2 (40:11):
Uh.

Speaker 1 (40:12):
Is that difficult for a player to get that call
because he obviously wants it, but at the same time
he knows there are still things intricacies about second base,
intricacies about you know, maybe being a better content hit
or not striking out as much. That's a lot for
a young man to handle. But really the team needed
him so badly because guys were getting hurt, you know,
on a day to day basis.

Speaker 2 (40:32):
Unfortunately.

Speaker 8 (40:34):
Yeah, I think anybody if you're if you're asking a
guy who's in the minor leagues, would you rather be
in the major leagues when you don't feel like you're
ready than wait another year or so and feel like
you're one hundred percent ready.

Speaker 3 (40:46):
They're going to.

Speaker 8 (40:47):
Take option A for sure. But I think a lot
a lot of the transition has to do with communication
from the top. What's expected from you, What do we
know that you can do, Here's what we think you
still need to work on. Here's how we're going to
continue your development at this level, because we think you're
still a player who's learning a new position, and a

(41:09):
guy who's still you know, doesn't have a full amount
of that batch to become the hitter that we think
you're going to be, So so communicating those things and
letting them know that it's okay, you're going to make
mistakes and we're going to work through them. I think
it also probably helps that he can, you know, look
out behind him and right field, and see Cam Smith
as a guy who made the team out of spring

(41:30):
training with even less at bats and less experience and
no experience in the outfield, and see what his development
has been this year. And know that, you know, this
is an organization and a team that has a coaching
staff that is not just you know, major league coaching
staffs used to be. We're here to take these finished
products and win games. And it's a different story now.

(41:50):
And they still have a ton of player development to
do at this level. And you look at the guys,
you look at Omar Lopez, you at Tony Parishchica, I mean,
Joe Spotted himself has a back round in player development,
specifically within fielders. So yeah, there's a lot to be learned.
But as long as the player knows that, and as
long as it's clearly shown to them how they're going
to get from A to B two C, it makes

(42:13):
it easier.

Speaker 1 (42:14):
Bogy. Let's look at this as a macro perspective. The
team struggled getting to the All Star break, did not
look good in those first two games against Seattle, and
then they put together three consecutive wins that just once
again shows you for the umpteenth time that major League
baseball season is a marathon. But you know what's been
consistent through all this bullpen has been largely excellent, and

(42:34):
we're just seeing this series. In this series alone, the defense,
no matter who you're putting where, is bailing this team
out and saving this team one or two runs per game.

Speaker 8 (42:45):
It's it's been really the unsung hero of the entire season.
You know, when you can depend on first of all,
making all the plays, making the routine plays and not
putting yourself behind the eight ball by making errors and
costing yourself base runners and runs, but also you know,
maybe maybe pushing it a little bit and taking some risks.
I mean Mauricio Debond throwing you know, a runner out

(43:06):
at home from from the cutoff position, or them going
after a lead runner at third base yesterday and a
ground ball or cutting down a run at home. It's
really become the opposite of a big data type of baseball,
where you know, we're going to put together the best
roster and feel like we're the better team, and if
we just play the game long enough over time, we're

(43:26):
going to get the wins. They're not paying that anymore right,
they're they're taking chances. How many buns have we seen
over the course of the last couple of weeks of
guys just trying to get on base put pressure on defense.
They're trying to create a style of game where we
know it's going to be close, we know it's going
to be low scoring. But we think with our bullpen,
with our defense, with the way we prepare, with the matchups,

(43:47):
we think we can exploit that you will crack under
the pressure and we won't, or we will make the
play that you're not going to make and find a
way to win a game three to one or four
to two or whatever it is. And if you're playing
close games and where one or two plays is going
to flip it, those are the kinds of things. You know,
if somebody's out there and they've got an ace on
the mount who's shoving, you're gonna win no matter what.

(44:08):
If you've got a lineup one through nine who's banging
the ball around, you're.

Speaker 1 (44:12):
Probably going to win no matter what.

Speaker 8 (44:14):
But you know, if it's a handful of plays, it's
going to come down to, you know, a pitch or
two from a reliever, maybe being in a higher leverage
situation than there used to being and are they prepared
for that or a guy, you know, making a snap
decision to make a throw home instead of first base,
and is he's thinking about it ahead of time? And
they've been really good at that stuff.

Speaker 1 (44:34):
Brian bogasevicill Us here on Sports Talk seven ninety and
Escac Paratus going down in the lineup, and we've talked
a lot about how he sees more pitches than everyone else.
So with him gone, Brian, if you were saying on
the Astros staff, how much would you try to stress
to the other guys to do that? How much of
that is in your mind in the batter's box or

(44:55):
you kind of want guys to stay within themselves.

Speaker 8 (44:58):
Yeah, I think it's something that is probably needs to
be talked about and just understood. But it's more about
picking and choosing times. You don't want somebody to completely
change their approach. You don't want somebody going up there
trying to be a hitter that they're not. You know,
go out there and execute in a bat the way
you think is going to give you the best chance.

(45:20):
You're not going to tell Josel TV to go out
there and start taking pitches. But there are going to
be times when maybe you need to slow the game
down a little bit. You know, if you look at
Hunter's last start, he had really good in the first
two innings. He had the long third inning and the
long fourth inning, and in between that the Astros had
a five pitch inning from there at bat, so he

(45:40):
was out there for like a thirty pitch inning and
the twenty five pitch inning with only five pitches in between.
You know, you don't want to run into those types
of situations. It might happen every once in a while,
but just recognizing, hey guys, remember every once in a while,
maybe we're going to need to see a pitch. Maybe
you're going to need to use your time out early
on in at bat, not necessarily when you want to,
but just to kill some time. It's something that needs

(46:03):
to be aware of. But no, you're not going to
go to anybody individually and ask them to change their
style of hitting just because you know, the guy who
had the longest that batch is down now.

Speaker 1 (46:14):
So cam Smith has been taking over the leadoff spot,
has been struggling at the plate since then, you see
anything different from him, or just maybe a coincidence with
the lineup spot and how much does that even matter?
Is that just something we like to talk about in
fans and media with a lineup spot more than people
who are playing the game.

Speaker 8 (46:32):
Now, don't I don't think it's a lineup spot. That's
kind of you know, outside of the maybe the first
inning where he might feel it a little bit differently.

Speaker 3 (46:40):
It just is what it is.

Speaker 8 (46:42):
Honestly, I look at specifically for Cam and young players
in general, it's this time of year, right You're you're
one hundred games in. It's just dragging, dragging, dragging, there's
really no.

Speaker 10 (46:53):
End in sight.

Speaker 8 (46:53):
And you know, you just come off the All Star breaks,
so maybe a little bit of a refresh when we
were on the last homestand the Cleveland, Texas homes and
there were some times when he looked fatigued physically and
a little bit mentally where it just looked like the
season was getting to him a little bit. And that's
normal for young players. It's certainly normal for a guy
who played a fifty game college season last year.

Speaker 1 (47:14):
Uh.

Speaker 8 (47:15):
And it's typically a situation where you know you would say, hey,
you're going to take a rest, You're going to you're
going to be down on you know, you're not going
to play this game on Sunday because we offer off
game off day on Monday. We'll get you two days
off your feet and come back refresh. They can't do that.
They they literally need everybody they have, so he hasn't
been able to get those built in breaks that that

(47:36):
they could provide a young player. He's out there just
trying to grind through it, and you know, it takes
a physical toll on you. It takes a mental toll
on you, especially when you know you're not swinging it
the way you want and you have to go out
there day after day after day. So I don't know
that it's necessarily a function of where he's hitting in
the order. I think it's more just a function of
it's a long season and he's doing it for the
first time.

Speaker 1 (47:57):
Bull Gie, Is there any sort of intangible breaking point
with what's going on right now, because again, it doesn't
make sense. Seventeen players on the injured list, You are
bringing up guys that are probably not going to be
considered long term major leaguers. You've got one of your
young stars who probably needed more seasoning at Triple a
coming up and helping. Is there anything that you're thinking

(48:19):
about beyond just hey, the competition's gonna get harder.

Speaker 2 (48:23):
Well, guess what. The competition got harder two.

Speaker 1 (48:26):
Weeks ago in Los Angeles and they went there and
swept the series. Is there any in the back of
your mind you're thinking about as you watch this team
play the next two to three weeks before some of
these guys come back and make this a full wholesome
Houston Astro team again.

Speaker 8 (48:42):
You know, it's in the back of my mind right
that it's got to catch up to them at some point,
just because that many injuries, to that many significant players
have to But there's nothing that I can think of
or point to to say, well, this is when it's
going to happen, because it should have happened already. I mean,
you just it's been the majority of the season at

(49:02):
this point. You know, they keep adding up and adding
up without really getting anybody back from any of these injuries.
You know, they've gone through the different stretches in the schedule,
and I mean just just look around the league and
the teams other teams that are experiencing injuries like this.
I mean, look at the Dodgers and the resources that
they have from a money standpoint, they built maybe the

(49:23):
deepest roster in all of baseball over the offseason. They've
got one of the best and deepest farm systems, and
they're feeling their injuries already, and the Astros keep plugging along.
So in the conventional wisdom and my common sense says, yes,
it should catch up to them at some point, But honestly,
at this point, maybe it doesn't.

Speaker 11 (49:42):
Don't.

Speaker 8 (49:43):
I really can't figure it out.

Speaker 2 (49:45):
All right.

Speaker 1 (49:45):
So I'm going to ask you this for the second
to last time. If you were having a glass of
wine with general manager Dana Brown and he said, all right, Bogie, help.

Speaker 2 (49:55):
Me out here.

Speaker 1 (49:56):
What do I need to go get? This is the
second to last time I ask you this this year.

Speaker 2 (50:00):
What would you tell him?

Speaker 8 (50:02):
Well, I think it's changed now, you know. My my
my initial thinking for you know, the first month or
so leading up to the deadline was the relief on
the offensive standpoint is going to come from within, right,
That's going to be when your hand gets back. That's
going to be whenever if Jake Myers comes back. But

(50:23):
now I'm now with parades down, and you know, we
don't have a timeline on it, but it's probably not,
you know, going to be just a week or two.
I think I think you might need a bat more
than than pitching at this point. It looks like Erraic
Getty's close, uh, Christian Javier looks like he's progressing pretty well.
Luis Garcia is a little bit behind them. So you know,

(50:44):
maybe that maybe I think this, I think the need
has shifted more from just shoring up pitching, and you
can always use more pitching to you've got to add
to the lineup somewhere. If it's a long term thing
for parades, maybe it's somebody who can slot right in
that third base, or maybe somebody who has some sort
of you know, positional versatility that you can float around.

(51:06):
I think I think it's a bat now. It's probably
more offensive driven than it was last week at this
time before Parades went down.

Speaker 1 (51:15):
Great stuff, as always, friend, Thank you very much for
the time, and we'll talk again next week, which will
be the thirtieth, and that'll be one diway from the
trade deadline. Thanks Bogy for the time as always.

Speaker 8 (51:25):
All right, thanks guys, you got it.

Speaker 2 (51:26):
Brian Bogasvic with us here on Sports talk seven to eighty.
Does that creep in your mind at any point? I
got the second last question.

Speaker 1 (51:33):
I asked him that that this fairy tale, the Cinderella
story of the twenty twenty five is gonna burst some point,
or do you go, you know what, They're holding their
head above water. The reinforcements at some point come back
and this is going to be a magical storyline at
the end of the season.

Speaker 2 (51:49):
You just got to ride the wave, Matt, I'm not
at water World. What are you talking about?

Speaker 1 (51:54):
Man, gotta worry about when it's gonna crash, because whatever
it will be will be.

Speaker 2 (51:59):
I think there were people who were doing that ten
days ago.

Speaker 1 (52:01):
The future is not ours to see. I think at
some point, well, it depends. I would say, how long
has he sucked? Parade is going to be out? Doesn't
sound great? How long Jordon's going to be out? I
think the pitching cavalry comes back and you get Jordon back,
and maybe you trade for a bat. I'll the picture
can become much more clear in a couple of weeks.
I feel like, and what context do we get out

(52:25):
of whether or not data makes a deal or not?
If you've got no Paradus and no Jordon. I don't
think I'm going to keep my expectation levels. You're very,
very low. If you get Jordon back and maybe you
trade for a bat, I'm feeling like, let's go win
an American League Pennant.

Speaker 3 (52:41):
Yeah.

Speaker 1 (52:42):
I just what I need in the next week is
I need to see here some higher numbers with my
rehab pictures.

Speaker 2 (52:48):
I'm not worried about it. Thirty days, Maddie.

Speaker 1 (52:52):
By the way, I got some clarification. If someone's in
a thirty uh position, players on a twenty day rehab stance, okay,
pictures can go thirty days. Okay. If at any point
they're not ready, they can stop and refile for another
rehabilitation stint. It's just a paperwork issue.

Speaker 3 (53:11):
Okay.

Speaker 1 (53:11):
So in theory, see, you can't force somebody that's not
one hundred percent to come up and go, well, you
got your thirty days are over with. I know you're
you're you're only throwing thirty five pitches at sixty miles
an hour. Okay. You can't force somebody that way. So
you can just stop what you're doing and then restart
up again. I'm gonna say they wouldn't have started rehab
if they thought that was No, I don't think so either.
I've just been I'm just saying just in case something

(53:32):
was to go wrong and they wanted to slow somebody down.
Ra injuries can happen, Matt setbex happen. Ask Luis Garcia, go,
ask Brendan Rodgers got in ahead.

Speaker 2 (53:44):
Can custant a space Cowboys game.

Speaker 1 (53:47):
It's a good way to stay on the roster. Ten
eleven sixteen on Sports Talk seven and coming up at
the bottom of the aisle, we got shit shild bumb
ass up man. So Brendan just said to me, it's
what he said, and he's like, who is this person
that's doing Middays with bad hair?

Speaker 2 (54:04):
You're here called Jonathan out like that.

Speaker 1 (54:05):
Actually your hair is unfortunately good apparently to some people.

Speaker 2 (54:09):
Do you want to talk about hair the one that's bald?
Say that again? Is Matt talking about hair right now?

Speaker 4 (54:15):
Yeah?

Speaker 1 (54:15):
I don't care.

Speaker 2 (54:16):
Let me tell you something.

Speaker 1 (54:17):
I look significantly better looking without here than I do
with with hair. That's that's not even in question. No,
I disagree. I like the curly half ro you had
back in the day job. Get out of here, afro.
Don't learn about that half bro. It's a half ro
seven one three two one two five seven outy seven
one three two one two five seventy. We'll also check
in with the Texans at some point during the show today.

(54:38):
They're a meeting with the media right now, or a
bunch of legitimate media and mostly illegitimate media out there
covering the team. When's WEX calling us? What's going on?

Speaker 2 (54:46):
He's legitimate media.

Speaker 1 (54:47):
We have some Dimico Ryan's quotes as well. He's been
extremely transparent and forthcoming. Oh I want to hear him.

Speaker 2 (54:54):
He's seven one three two one two five seven eighty.

Speaker 1 (54:57):
By the way, we're gonna do something this year. Oh
we're late, we'll come back. I'll tell you about a second.
Let's talk about Big City Wings real quick, but up
in ten minutes the News at noon with a little
Ossie tribute to some astros highlights there, and at twelve
o five, right in the middle of the news at noon,
we're going to talk to Adam Weser of Sports Talk
seven ninety So no news at noon, well a little
bit like a mini no. Actually he will be the

(55:18):
news at noon. Yeah, I like that. You're welcome, even
though I actually got some stories I could throw in
what you can do the news at No.

Speaker 2 (55:28):
Twenty.

Speaker 1 (55:28):
Yeah, Jim Bowden's going to join us at one o'clock.
I do want to ask him about the trade deadline world.
That's where I'm really curious about. Okay, and also fromber
you know front the Astros have pitched, and I know
that I don't know people are looking for Textans coverage today.

Speaker 2 (55:43):
I don't think A bails in the markets doing it.

Speaker 1 (55:44):
So we'll just we'll keep it to Astros because they
know the team are playing and nothing happened at Texans today.
That would be overall crazy. We'll get you the WEX
up everybody health and other than that, I don't really care. Yeah, Robert,
the last thirteen times he started a game, the Astros
have won the last thirteen games.

Speaker 2 (56:02):
That's pretty good in that mix.

Speaker 1 (56:04):
Twelve of those thirteen have been quality starts. Chit ching.
We're ready to say goodbye? Right, we haven't recorded, I think, yeah,
we do. What did we do that? I did it
last year? Oh?

Speaker 11 (56:22):
Really?

Speaker 2 (56:24):
That was what Bregman.

Speaker 1 (56:26):
We did a Bragman one and then we did a
Promber one too. If you find it, play it. I
want to hear it. It's the radio gold right there.
We got ahead of the game is two minutes. This
is us saying goodbye to Fromber, Oh Promber, you sweet

(56:47):
sweet left handed pitcher. The grassa they called you, and
we'll never forget you.

Speaker 2 (56:57):
Use an astro great.

Speaker 1 (57:00):
As you came up, and we called it Framber alerts
because you would walk everyone and blow up when you
came out on the mound.

Speaker 2 (57:09):
But you right this ship and the blow up stopped.

Speaker 1 (57:12):
To an extent. And we'll always remember how you finished
top five in the cy Young couple of times. How
you would just randomly show up with hair extensions whenever
you wanted. Sometimes you'd give up three home runs in
an inning and you would get this weird, sinister smile

(57:33):
on your face, like your Heath Ledger playing the Joker.

Speaker 2 (57:37):
Go ahead of del This is it.

Speaker 1 (57:43):
So you're a part of this in twenty twenty three
or twenty four. This is from March of this year.

Speaker 12 (57:48):
Okay, yes, sometimes instead.

Speaker 2 (58:08):
This is the middle of spring training.

Speaker 1 (58:11):
I think we did it, sweating profusely.

Speaker 2 (58:14):
And taking deep breaths. He didn't tell like he's sweating
as much this year, des Butcher.

Speaker 1 (58:18):
Jobs, but a wicked curveball and ground ball outs. We
wish you the best, we love you, we appreciate you.
We're sorry that the Astros offer wasn't competitive. We're sorry
that Dana Brown strung along the media team in the future.

(58:39):
Thank you from Bert, gone but not forgotten, wishing you
the best in your future endeavors. How do I forget
we do things on this show. I completely forgot about
that because I think I already nailed it. Dana Brown
stringing along the media and a non competitive offer from
the Astros. Well, I hate to tell you that you're
wrong something. I don't think there was an offer period.

(59:02):
You can't make a not can put up offer.

Speaker 4 (59:03):
There is.

Speaker 1 (59:03):
Oh, they're gonna put one out like they did with Bregman,
one that won't be signed, like they.

Speaker 2 (59:07):
Did with Korea. He's thirty two.

Speaker 1 (59:10):
It's gonna be like, oh, yeah, it turns out the
Astros offered you know, four years and one hundred and
twenty whatever. It's gonna be something like that, so they
can at least say, hey, fans, we offered him this money.
And then and then there'll be some rubes, some boot
lickers who'll be like, oh, look at all that money
he could have signed here. He doesn't want to be here.

Speaker 2 (59:29):
That's not how it would interpret it.

Speaker 1 (59:31):
Okay, I mean.

Speaker 2 (59:33):
The reality is this. I don't know. I wouldn't go
seven or eight years on your UH from Revaldez.

Speaker 1 (59:41):
I will make you bet that there will be some
report will come out that the Astros made offer X
and it's completely non competitive with whatever else he whatever
he ends up getting.

Speaker 2 (59:50):
Let's write this down, get your computer out.

Speaker 1 (59:52):
Okay, it happened with Korea, it happened with Bregman. I
don't know if it happened with uh Cole. Let's set
the deal right now. Okay, Oh, set the deal. Set
the deal. Let's go first on years. I will say
he will sign no more than a five year contract,
no more than five years for Are we making a

(01:00:15):
bet on this? Oh no, Well we can brag about
it didn't make anything but tangible to it. Okay, friendly bet,
gentleman's bet. Gentleman's bet. Hey, I told you so, kind
of thing. Five years, nothing more than five or I'd
say five is where it starts. Now he's thirty two.
That's a lot of a lot of it, a lot

(01:00:35):
of pitches thrown. Yeah, Max Freed just got eight, he's
thirty one. Okay, put your number down and we'll plug
the prices right on this. Whoever gets closest with me,
you can actually go over six. I'll bit sick.

Speaker 2 (01:00:51):
What is your realistically?

Speaker 3 (01:00:52):
What are you really do? Six or seven? All right?

Speaker 2 (01:00:55):
Dollar amount? This is where I'm really bad about this.

Speaker 1 (01:01:00):
I'm gonna a a v hold on. Let me get
my no sharrongest file here.

Speaker 2 (01:01:04):
You should be. This is probably gonna go on this.
This is my weakness.

Speaker 1 (01:01:08):
A v Oh you won the Bregman deal. I did,
and I think I'm gonna win the Tucker deal. Oh stop,
think you want to up it from habachi. No, I'm
already taking the l on that. Get a little get
a little steak.

Speaker 5 (01:01:20):
Good.

Speaker 1 (01:01:20):
Now you're gonna get to bay steak on the pabachi.
I'm not gonna force you to get chicken breasts. Yes, sir,
we get a little surf and turf and the extra
fried rice AA v U fromber is gonna be so
much on this file. That's all we do is just
guess on stuff. Bets. Oh my god, we have a bet.

(01:01:41):
You you gotta riscind this one on. Alvarez will never
again play more than one hundred and thirty games. That's
gonna be a win. No, oh, please his hand, he's
gonna have the rights. It's a drive through lunch bet,
by the way, okay, perfect, keep that one go. This
is gentleman's bet. Gentleman's bet. Thing on it, no thing,
no food changeable. Okay, I got him a five or

(01:02:03):
less years. Just put under five point five years under
five point five uh, and then I will go on
the AAV average annual value. I will say he is
going to make twenty seven million dollars per year.

Speaker 2 (01:02:21):
I feel like that's around fair. You were over under
on that.

Speaker 1 (01:02:27):
I mean, I think it's a good number.

Speaker 2 (01:02:28):
Okay, we'll stay right at that at it then that's fine.

Speaker 1 (01:02:31):
Let me see, it was eight years two eighteen for Freed.
That's twenty seven. So yeah, I could see him being
around twenty five twenty seven.

Speaker 2 (01:02:40):
Now I could sit.

Speaker 1 (01:02:41):
Now if I want to pay him five years and
I want to go grab him to be my number
one or number two, my rotation. If I got to
pay twenty seven million dollars a year, I'll do it,
But I don't want to do it for seven eight years,
five one fifty.

Speaker 2 (01:02:52):
That's even a bit too.

Speaker 1 (01:02:54):
High five one forty six eighty. Man, I don't know
because I mean from because here's the reason I wouldn't
go six two reasons. One, the chance of him getting
the hurt. I would't s there are fifty fifty, but
they're not twenty eighty. Well, here's number two.

Speaker 2 (01:03:15):
He does have. He's thrown a lot of pitches in
his career.

Speaker 1 (01:03:18):
And why, I mean, how many thirty seven thirty year
olds are bumping around ant league baseball being super super effective.

Speaker 2 (01:03:28):
That's why I think five's this week trying to compare
his Yeah, we can further debate this.

Speaker 1 (01:03:37):
The audience twenty seven, twenty five to twenty seven is
about right, but I think he'll get over five and
a half. But also it just depends if if if
the the basically Yankees, Dodgers, Mets, a handful of halves
are in, he's gonna he's gonna beat these numbers. If
they're not. If it's everybody else, then you're gonna win,
you know what I'm saying. So the numbers are kind

(01:03:59):
of on my side. We'll see, depends on how bad
somebody wants a good left handed pitcher. I mean, I
wouldn't count the Marlins. All right, it's time for some
you and you and you call in and tell somebody
to shut their bomb asses up. Okay, it's our Wednesday staple.
It's my favorite half hour of the week. Gear again again.
Time here again, damp it, hear again, damp it target,

(01:04:23):
damp it, tear again, here again, time cheer again, damp
it eleven thirty seven, Sports Talk seven ninety It's our
favorite half hour of the week. And this is where
you call seven one three two one two five seven
ninety seven one three two one two five seven ninety eight.
Nobody got time for that, and shut yo bumb ass up.

(01:04:46):
Seven one three two one two five seven Ninty Jonathan,
I love you like a second cousin, but this running
bit we've got going is just making you look sound
terrible too. Uh, your squad's gonna lose by four to
five touchdown, So I was say, respectful. Anybody got time
for SFA thinking they're gonna be competitive with the Houston
Cougars in early September.

Speaker 13 (01:05:07):
Nobody, everybody listening, everybody August twenty eighth, you can come in.

Speaker 2 (01:05:12):
I do not care if we win. If we win,
it's not gonna matter for the beatdown.

Speaker 3 (01:05:19):
Hey, don't leave.

Speaker 1 (01:05:20):
Don't leave the second.

Speaker 13 (01:05:22):
I would sit in the student section the whole time,
poor kid, DoD's no smoke.

Speaker 2 (01:05:30):
You shouldn't. Basically, it's coming an infernal in your section.

Speaker 1 (01:05:35):
Okay, wait, I you know I'm marking that day.

Speaker 9 (01:05:38):
So good.

Speaker 2 (01:05:38):
You should be the beatdown of your life?

Speaker 8 (01:05:42):
All right?

Speaker 2 (01:05:43):
Seven one three two one two five seven? Hoey?

Speaker 1 (01:05:46):
Is there a way I can mute training camp reports?
I don't know what word you could mute. I don't know,
because look, I want to see the team play on,
to see the Texans get ready to open up the season.
I want the NFL season to come. I'm actually, and

(01:06:06):
again I'm a fraud for saying that I'm gonna be
back in your fantasy football league because I said for
years I was gonna stop. But I love it because
it is football and it is an opportunity to kind
of keep it update on what's happening around. Absolutely, but
I can't be more bored with training camp reports. Seriously,
this is.

Speaker 2 (01:06:25):
Control.

Speaker 1 (01:06:27):
This is important for the draft. Man, No, it's not. Absolutely.
This is the first team rep second Okay, you know what,
You're right, it's not important what is Brevin Jordan gonna
be drafted? Is anyone saying that in their league? No,
not a soul saying that, saying I didn't say every
single little bit of minutia, and that's what I'm saying.
I'm saying minutia. Ain't nobody got time for dumbass minutia
training camp reports and I'm done. Okay, thank you, Mike drop. Okay,

(01:06:52):
as far as yours.

Speaker 2 (01:06:54):
Man, have you heard of this? Could you imagine?

Speaker 3 (01:06:58):
Rupt you?

Speaker 1 (01:06:58):
Could you imagine I went to a rock practice training
camp practice and said, oh my gosh, Kevin Durant just
made nine right shots, Like, shut your ball mess up.
People do that. People don't post videos of people at
basketball practice knocking down a bunch of threes in a row.
That's a difference in a practice. But in terms of
a this play then this play, then this play, then
this play then this play. I mean, Jesus, hold on.

(01:07:20):
People go in and get into summer league to highlights.
I act like that matters. I'm not doing it. I'm
saying it happened. I'm saying it happens.

Speaker 2 (01:07:31):
Mess I'm just kidding, all right.

Speaker 1 (01:07:33):
Matt Chase Callicut, who he is a Georgia football commit
and a North Shore High school player unfortunately was arrested
in an incident where there was basically a road rate
incident and somebody was with pulled a gun and began

(01:07:54):
shooting on somebody.

Speaker 2 (01:07:55):
First of all, anybody got time for that.

Speaker 1 (01:07:58):
Second of all, Georgia and Texas fans are like at
war with each other on the internet over this, even
to the point where Georgia Bulldogs fans are accusing Texas
Longhorns people of setting the kid up? Can we stop

(01:08:18):
arguing and fighting and spending energy in hours of our
lives yelling about a seventeen year old child. Ain't nobody
got time for that? Who are these people on recruiting
message boards all over the place getting in wars with
people over recruits, over teenagers?

Speaker 2 (01:08:44):
I mean, come on, it's ridiculous, And ain't nobody got.

Speaker 8 (01:08:50):
Time for that?

Speaker 1 (01:08:51):
Ain't nobody got time for it?

Speaker 2 (01:08:53):
Said Norse for her.

Speaker 1 (01:08:55):
Yes, if you are on a message board in twenty
twenty five, you're a dork. The biggest you think you
think that that's the biggest cancer in sports today is
not the Twitter Instagram. It's both snap uh TikTok. It's

(01:09:15):
message boards because that gives you like pages and pages
and pages put out a roneous stuff. So if you're
an administrant and it's like, well, it's like, I mean,
what percentage you're right at? Pages are kind of bad
for you, quite a bit bad for you. Yeah, I
read it's pretty hard. I'm not gonna call it harmless.
That's kind of correct, all right. Sometimes people get bully bullied,
and there's been We don't need that. Here's my tip.

(01:09:38):
If you're getting cyber bully, close, close your laptop, go yeah,
and just wait for the fifteen minutes to get over with,
like this guy from the seat, then it'll go away.
Like the CEO of the former CEO of that company
up in Massachusetts, who's you know caressing during the cold

(01:09:58):
Play concert there getting cozy. They were they're about to
make sweet Love at Foxborough.

Speaker 2 (01:10:05):
I don't think they were gonna do it in the stadium. Man,
you don't know that, you know why the thing was
gonna progress.

Speaker 1 (01:10:08):
You think you're can go to the family bathroom and
knock it out. That's disgusting.

Speaker 2 (01:10:14):
Oh please, you've never done before.

Speaker 13 (01:10:15):
Kuala Bear changing station, but that type of venue with
sixty thousand people in the family restroom.

Speaker 1 (01:10:20):
You might see some stuff you want?

Speaker 3 (01:10:22):
How much?

Speaker 10 (01:10:22):
Wait?

Speaker 2 (01:10:22):
Does the Koala bear changing station?

Speaker 3 (01:10:24):
Hold?

Speaker 2 (01:10:27):
Who sits on it?

Speaker 1 (01:10:28):
Her?

Speaker 3 (01:10:28):
Are you.

Speaker 1 (01:10:33):
Seven one three two one two five seven ninety?

Speaker 2 (01:10:35):
What's the matter with you? Jonathan? This week? Quickly to the.

Speaker 13 (01:10:38):
Overweight lady at though mean Dal's line this morning?

Speaker 1 (01:10:41):
Hey, can I get a fat shame this?

Speaker 6 (01:10:44):
No?

Speaker 1 (01:10:44):
No, no, no no, because I've been waiting. Why are
you honking at me in line?

Speaker 8 (01:10:49):
We are?

Speaker 2 (01:10:50):
What's the what's the reason? I'm just talking of my ordering?

Speaker 14 (01:10:53):
Why?

Speaker 1 (01:10:53):
What is the problem today? I don't get that?

Speaker 2 (01:10:56):
Sorry, because she was she was.

Speaker 13 (01:10:57):
I had a look at the window, and then she
past me and then haunt at me again.

Speaker 1 (01:11:03):
I shut up, my mass up.

Speaker 13 (01:11:05):
I don't know what you did, man, I don't know
the many hash browns you needed, but you need to
go low run it okay? So what was she doing
to interfere with you? Just delaying everything?

Speaker 1 (01:11:15):
Apparently I would delaying it for her.

Speaker 13 (01:11:16):
I was just waiting for my stuff, and it was
looking at me like she was in a rush.

Speaker 2 (01:11:20):
Hmm. How do you know if she was overweight? You
trying to look at her?

Speaker 13 (01:11:24):
I got out of the line, parked. Oh my god,
wait until she got out of the line and followed her.
What don't do that, You're the wrong guy? You were No,
I didn't, Okay, I didn't. I followed her outside of
the party line, and then I would. I made sure
she knew that at me, I'm very I'm a very

(01:11:46):
confrontational person guy that.

Speaker 2 (01:11:50):
I met her back off on my face. Yeah, you
better watch out some lumberjacks going after me.

Speaker 1 (01:11:56):
Do nothing. You're gonna you're gonna You're gonna feel my gaze,
do you.

Speaker 2 (01:12:00):
Yeah, you better get every.

Speaker 1 (01:12:01):
Window you have in your car. You're gonna fill me.
It's gonna bring you a two piece out of biscuit.

Speaker 2 (01:12:05):
Manning An acts quick time out, Mike and Joe.

Speaker 1 (01:12:09):
We'll get to you. If anybody you guys want to
talk about to shut their ball asses up. Seven one
three two one two five seven ninety seven one three
two one two five seven ninety Here we go seven
one three two one two five seven nine zero seven
one three two one two five seven nine zero. Let
me tell you this. We'll have a little Azsie Black

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Sabbath Astros tribute, followed by Wax. I mean if that,
if that's not a one two pairing coming up in
ten minutes, Rossie, I can't tell you what.

Speaker 2 (01:12:40):
Would be Okay, I got some camp updates you might like.

Speaker 1 (01:12:44):
Matt please James Boyd of the Athletic in Colt's camp
two hours ago. QB Anthony Richardson uh nearly picked off.
Next week, Kenny Moore just picked off Daniel Jones. Could
the Texans win the AMC South by six games? I

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mean this division is god awful. Imagine me a cold
fan that following this guy like Anthony Richardson nearly picked
Daniel Jones picked off? Everything is do you hear? Somebody
at the Tennessee Titans press conference s today asked if
the Titans are a Super Bowl contender? Why, like, what
are you doing to those poor front office people? The
actual the NFL Super Bowl? Well, yeah, terrible, let's go.

(01:13:29):
Uh Mike on seven on, he Mike, what's.

Speaker 2 (01:13:31):
The matter with you?

Speaker 1 (01:13:34):
Mike Hey?

Speaker 2 (01:13:37):
That you Mike?

Speaker 7 (01:13:40):
Yeah, this is Matt.

Speaker 2 (01:13:41):
This is Matt is.

Speaker 3 (01:13:42):
Miss JV Man.

Speaker 4 (01:13:44):
Uh he say, Matt be trivia.

Speaker 1 (01:13:46):
So he asked me to call Lean pam Man, who did.

Speaker 15 (01:13:50):
Just man jv Oh he's said all the mpon that
told him he neither fuck was on getting out.

Speaker 9 (01:13:58):
The third end.

Speaker 1 (01:14:02):
Shits Obama, ass up man, Thank you, Mike. He is
actually pitching right now. His ernie is uh five point
ninety nine?

Speaker 3 (01:14:12):
Is that bad?

Speaker 1 (01:14:12):
Or is it four point nine nine? That's what doessartly matter?
He's got no wins this coming into the game. He's
zero for eight with four point nine four point nine nine.
I mean that's honestly, if you not want a game
and it's late July and your ernie's only five, that's
not terrible? Uh negative point seven war hmmm, below replacement level? James,

(01:14:34):
what's the matter with you?

Speaker 11 (01:14:37):
They nobody got time for these lame nicknames.

Speaker 14 (01:14:40):
Why not take a Tamel and Bryce Matthews and Cam
Smith and call him the band of Brothers.

Speaker 11 (01:14:47):
That's a good nickname. Then become the band of brothers.

Speaker 1 (01:14:56):
Shits Obama, ass up man. I ain't nobody got time
for these terrible nicknames. And then he gave us a
terrible nickname, so he So James just called and said,
I don't have time for these bad nicknames, so I'm
gonna give you one instead. Huh god, what.

Speaker 3 (01:15:17):
I thought?

Speaker 1 (01:15:17):
It was pretty funny? Good? Okay, good Jonathan. Your opinions
more valid than ours.

Speaker 2 (01:15:25):
Significantly more valid. Joe on seven ninety Joe, what's the
matter with you?

Speaker 16 (01:15:38):
Well, I'll tell you what's the matter at the end.
But I had a question the hitter a picture or
should they just stay with the space cowboys and not
get nobody in the h.

Speaker 4 (01:15:57):
I what you call it?

Speaker 2 (01:15:58):
But for a deadline?

Speaker 17 (01:16:00):
Trade deadline? And did anybody else say it's time to
lay it down? In the nineteen eighties when Mask came
on TV and said, well, time to go to sleep.
When they saw the helicopter and I hang down and
go to sleep.

Speaker 1 (01:16:18):
Everybody get down for dead? What is there a joking
there that's going over my head? Matthew, I didn't watch mash.
Let me ask you all a question. If I go
beat my head against a wall, can I do it
like five times and not injure myself?

Speaker 2 (01:16:37):
No, you don't have any here. You have a chushion.

Speaker 13 (01:16:41):
I would like I like that. I'm not even taking it.
I'd like to see I'm being serious.

Speaker 1 (01:16:49):
Everybody get down for David hurt us around. I don't
think so, Bill, what's the matter? Oh my god, it's
about to go even further down there?

Speaker 9 (01:17:09):
You can you can smash five times to injure yourself, Matt, Matt,
but anyway you want to stretch out right away? Uh,
what's wrong with me, Matt? Is I don't want Like
last week, I wanted the tickets to go see the concert.
And whoever you're a guy that's that's supposed to be
taking the information, give me the tickets. I haven't got

(01:17:31):
my tip. I didn't get my tickets. Then I didn't
get my tickets last time.

Speaker 1 (01:17:34):
So it's probably because you're winning every six days.

Speaker 9 (01:17:38):
No, that's not true. I've been losing lately.

Speaker 1 (01:17:43):
Yeah, it's pretty funny.

Speaker 9 (01:17:44):
But to make a long story short, Max, those I
went to see the Space Cowboys, right and that ticket
did say one ticket? You say, no, once you scan,
it's supposed to be four things pop up.

Speaker 10 (01:17:56):
I paid.

Speaker 9 (01:17:57):
I had to pay an extra twenty three dollars, you know,
to get my girl in. Just make you out know,
I ain't getting my ticket and i'd get into Space caffles,
so I ain't.

Speaker 10 (01:18:05):
Nobody got time for it.

Speaker 8 (01:18:06):
But I appreciate y'all, Ony, Yeah.

Speaker 1 (01:18:08):
We appreciate you trying to freeload everything possible off of us. Bill,
did anybody else have problem those ventures? I thought I
sid four tickets on there. I thought, I said, that's
all I'm gonna say. I said four things over here. Bill,
I don't, I don't. That might be promotions there. I
don't know, right, Matt, We're just gonna go ahead in
the most incredible train wreck segment.

Speaker 2 (01:18:29):
This is an all time five worst segment. Right is great.

Speaker 1 (01:18:33):
We've had absolutely horrific call after a horrific call after
unbelievably embarrassing call.

Speaker 2 (01:18:40):
Whyt I finish it with Eric in basity, Eric, what's
the matter with you?

Speaker 1 (01:18:45):
Man?

Speaker 7 (01:18:45):
Ain't nobody got time for the amount of time that
Kyle Tucker laid on the ground like Lebron James with
minstrel cramps last night after fouling off a forty eight
mile an hour rich hill movement ball.

Speaker 15 (01:18:56):
Okay, I don't even know what you call the pitch,
but it was fantastic. Struck out Kyle Tucker last night.
Shut your bum ass up, row, Kyle Tucker, ain't word
no amount of money, dang it, in six years.

Speaker 1 (01:19:08):
He's not getting six years. Okay, you're an idiot.

Speaker 3 (01:19:13):
M have a good one. What was my number?

Speaker 10 (01:19:18):
Seven?

Speaker 2 (01:19:19):
I said seven or less? Right was seven and a half?
Oh yeah, yeah?

Speaker 1 (01:19:22):
He ain't getting eight? Not kidding eate we gotta have
bachi on eight? Do we really have I think we
have a batch. We have a bochi on that. Oh
I felt nearly as bad as I did like thirty
minutes ago. He's twenty eight. He's twenty eight with a
nine hundred ops and and he's won a gold glove
in right field. You want to you wanna help it?

Speaker 14 (01:19:43):
We can have it.

Speaker 2 (01:19:44):
How do you up on a baci?

Speaker 9 (01:19:45):
Hey?

Speaker 1 (01:19:46):
Hey on tight?

Speaker 3 (01:19:46):
My girl got one?

Speaker 1 (01:19:47):
Oh your girl? Oh it wasn't me who upset the
valley girl? Evana.

Speaker 4 (01:19:56):
Hi, yes, okay.

Speaker 14 (01:19:58):
I wanted to come on here because I wanted to
say what's wrong with me? And so my boyfriend comes
home every day, and the one thing that has stood
out to me is he said, both of you do
not like what no no, no.

Speaker 1 (01:20:12):
No no, that's written correct. Matt does not like to
tell him give him your full wrath, Evanna. I.

Speaker 14 (01:20:22):
So I find that very hurtful because here where I'm
originally from, we have manuel.

Speaker 4 (01:20:29):
So you have tried, yes, you have not tried.

Speaker 14 (01:20:33):
The correct and ross I'm not done yet. Ros you
don't like takes which is a seriousis yes?

Speaker 1 (01:20:44):
When did I say I didn't like talking again? This
is Matt again, Man, I got news for you. Stop
putting five ranchressings on your sound. Let's go now, let's
go with the one sound. That's all we're gonna do.

Speaker 2 (01:21:00):
You're gonna use modern amount.

Speaker 1 (01:21:01):
I don't need a whole bottle of hiding valley on
my salad. Say about that, exactly A mighty got time
for using four bottles addressing.

Speaker 14 (01:21:12):
Sorry, but I actually just went to Chick fil a
and just got my sadly without amount of raunch.

Speaker 1 (01:21:17):
How many how many ranch did you get? I got
to so you had some branch soup salad ranch soup.
That's not a salad, it's a ranch soup. And thank
you for attacking Ross. He deserved it.

Speaker 3 (01:21:30):
Thank you.

Speaker 1 (01:21:30):
Though she was wrong in both counts.

Speaker 2 (01:21:32):
I don't think it was.

Speaker 1 (01:21:33):
You're not communicating properly, Jonathan.

Speaker 6 (01:21:35):
No.

Speaker 1 (01:21:36):
I literally just try to tell her. She got confused.
And yes, sam Manuel, Jody Is and Tackis are disgusting
on a burger Mark, what do you got?

Speaker 2 (01:21:45):
What's the matter with you?

Speaker 9 (01:21:46):
Oh?

Speaker 10 (01:21:47):
Like the other guy, I wann't tickets two months ago.
I've never gotten anything. Femail Marvin like a dozen.

Speaker 2 (01:21:54):
Times, Marvin, shut your bum ass. Marvin's in like, can't coo?

Speaker 1 (01:22:00):
Man? He getting Mark Martin said, he ain't nobody get
time to answer your emails. Mark Jonathan talked to him
during the break, and we're gonna hear a little Ozzie
and then we're gonna hear little Astro's highlights, and I'm.

Speaker 2 (01:22:10):
Gonna hear from Wex.

Speaker 1 (01:22:12):
Marman said, tell me how this out of office email
taste twelve oh one on Sports Talk seven ninety's The
Matt Thomas Show with Ross. All Right, there's your astro

(01:22:36):
rewind part of the news at noon, and Wex is
gonna call a matter of seconds. He sent me a
text with a bunch of question marks. I guess we
were supposed to call him.

Speaker 2 (01:22:45):
Oh, he's take on my part, Well, it's like three
minutes after I asked.

Speaker 1 (01:22:51):
Yeah, so Wex's were waiting for you now, patiently waiting
for Wex's football report. There's one thing we do in
this show, it's stay on the clock. Yeah, we do,
especially if that last half hour that was maybe one
of our worst thirty minutes in the history of the show.

Speaker 9 (01:23:06):
What did he say?

Speaker 1 (01:23:07):
He said that, He said, Kyle Tucker's not getting five years.

Speaker 2 (01:23:10):
No, I don't said Kyle Tucker's word. I don't listen
to a word he says.

Speaker 1 (01:23:14):
Pe you should.

Speaker 2 (01:23:15):
I mean I think most of it's troll out. And
then James like.

Speaker 3 (01:23:20):
God, I try.

Speaker 1 (01:23:25):
I try to put together a good show. We got
Jim Bowden coming up in about uh that's good fifty
minutes from now, and I haven't even made a Bobby
Bouten joke yet. I got believe it or not, already
locked and loaded.

Speaker 3 (01:23:35):
Love it.

Speaker 2 (01:23:35):
We've called for WEX three times in the last minute.

Speaker 1 (01:23:38):
I think we should do it next. Is he available?
He's very busy. He sent me questions. He's a question mark,
question mark question mark. I can hear him rolling his
eyes at you. Oh he is, we will you know what,
we're so late in the second. We're going to have
to wait till twelve twenty if that's okay. Make sure
he's very busy. You know, he's got nothing else to do.
He's not working today, didn't work until twelve thirty this morning.

(01:23:59):
I know, So you know what, Wait a little bit
or nuts. I'm doing post game today. You're doing pre
game while we're doing I'm surely I'm doing pre and PO.
I'm doing pre with you in post and pre and
post tomorrow and Friday, and Clinton's is in his pool.

Speaker 2 (01:24:13):
Dang, I'm on four games this week.

Speaker 1 (01:24:16):
I'm on three.

Speaker 11 (01:24:19):
You know what?

Speaker 4 (01:24:19):
Now?

Speaker 1 (01:24:20):
We are the backbone of this station, aren't we We
are worth every penny that I make. Yeah, all right,
we're calling. I send texts? Can you call?

Speaker 2 (01:24:32):
That was three minutes ago? What is he doing? Is
he in the drive through?

Speaker 1 (01:24:36):
He's probably, yeah, yelling at somebody. Oh, he's yelling at me.
I can tell you that for damn sure. All right, Uh,
we'll do this quick time out and then we will
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Speaker 2 (01:25:41):
This is a jam.

Speaker 1 (01:25:45):
Saucer of death construction. I'm gonna have to probably download
some black savasag. Look at this, I'm having new horizons
for Matt Thomas saying, I'm gonna do it. I'm gonna
give us one of the songs you haven't heard for
seven undre and sixty five times this year.

Speaker 2 (01:26:01):
I'm proud of you, Thank you well.

Speaker 1 (01:26:02):
It's a better than the other bumps you play over
the smashing whatever they called and imagine dragons and crap whatever.

Speaker 2 (01:26:08):
Yeah, smashing back ons.

Speaker 1 (01:26:10):
WEX is where it's fresh off of the practice field.
WEX real quick, how many autowork radio people to ask
for jobs today while you're a practice.

Speaker 6 (01:26:19):
If I heard you correctly, you were asking about what
songs you should download to your napster.

Speaker 2 (01:26:24):
No, I don't know what napster is.

Speaker 1 (01:26:25):
Well, he's a LimeWire guy.

Speaker 8 (01:26:28):
I don't.

Speaker 6 (01:26:29):
I don't keep track of the things you keep track of,
so I can't answer that, what did you keep track of?

Speaker 2 (01:26:35):
Then today?

Speaker 11 (01:26:36):
Attendance?

Speaker 2 (01:26:38):
Okay?

Speaker 1 (01:26:39):
And so uh, I want to ask about Joe Mixon.
What tweet are we to read about him? On the
Non Injury Football List Football injury?

Speaker 6 (01:26:46):
I love. It's pretty interesting that the puppe list is
kind of made for off season injuries. It's really relative
to when people return. It just gives you just roster flexibility.
You can come off the pup list anytime you want.
But you know, he the other player on the NFI
list isn't going to play this year, So for Joe
Mixon to be put there, I was just a little surprising.
Didn't get any clarity on it from Dimiko Ryans, though,

(01:27:08):
I'm still led to believe it isn't of any great significance.
I just simply don't know what it is. And NFI
obviously is what it says a non football injury. So
it's more curious than concerned, I would say. And September seventh,
they'll play the Rams, and unless there's an injury between
now and then, Joe Mixon will be in the starting backfield.

Speaker 1 (01:27:25):
I wonder if it's just semantics of some sort. I mean,
because there are there are several lists you could put
him on. He can also put them on the list
at all, correct, I mean you just didn't.

Speaker 6 (01:27:35):
Yeah, but he's not capable of doing that, and so
from a roster standpoint, you wouldn't want it. There's no
reason to do that to the rest of the roster,
and it gives yourself some flexibility and having guys here
and getting a look at them for longer than you
would have otherwise had the chance to do. There's eleven
players on the Texans pup list, which a pretty sizable number.
But again it's a little concern to where these guys

(01:27:55):
technically are, but more to when do they really want
them on the active roster if they are already planning
on giving them rest days, or they're not really ready today,
but they'll be ready July thirtieth.

Speaker 2 (01:28:06):
You know, things like that, all right, so you walked
in today, what did you want to see?

Speaker 1 (01:28:10):
And granted, this is so not like your old school
where guys were in pads and beating each other up.
There was probably a get together informal sessions, the first
time they got together in quite some time. What did
your eyes notice today that would be of interest to
my audience, not necessarily the minutia of the training camp,
but just general getting ready for training camp stuff.

Speaker 6 (01:28:32):
That the pick they made at number forty eight will
be a starter for the Texans this year. Arionte Urser,
I'm not telling you for a fact. I'm telling you
that's what I believe is going to happen based on
what they did during the off season and even based
on what they did today. I mean, they are playing,
they are operating like it's a real practice. You could
have seen things like this a week or two weeks

(01:28:52):
from now on a day they weren't in pads, but
this was still day one.

Speaker 11 (01:28:55):
A lot of it was at walk through speeds.

Speaker 6 (01:28:57):
There is no hitting, there are no pads lining up
against each other, and you're still putting five starting linemen
out there in front of c. J. Stroud and of
course behind him is Nick Chubb because both Damian Pearce
and Joe Mixon are not active right now.

Speaker 11 (01:29:11):
But he's playing behind Jarrett Patterson at center.

Speaker 6 (01:29:14):
He's flanked by Tomlinson and Titus Howard, and then Erser's
playing right tackle currently with that first group, getting the
reps with that first group with Cam Robinson on the
left side. When they bring the second unit out there,
Ersery's getting work on the other side on the left side.
He's shown them enough or they liked as much as
they did on draft day to give him an opportunity

(01:29:34):
to pretty much pass up everybody that was already on
the roster or that they added in the offseason.

Speaker 11 (01:29:39):
And I think he's going to play that well in
order to do so.

Speaker 1 (01:29:42):
Yeah, and I saw that as well. What do you think,
I mean, how much of this? Of course, none of
it's set in stone, but how surprised were you not
to see Blake Fisher in the configuration at all? And
in Arianti Ersery's starting there in that right tackle spot.

Speaker 6 (01:29:56):
Yeah, I mean Fisher is the guy that will you know,
he gets the right tackle reps behind and you saw
some of that during other offseason work. I mean, he
has more experience, but I don't think he has more talent.
And I think you know, one thing that they have
from last year from an eyeball standpoint, is Cole Popovich
maybe the new offensive line coach this year, but he
was also an assistant offensive line coach last year. So
they turned over a lot of the roster at those

(01:30:19):
spots among the players that will contribute this year. But
he saw Blake Fisher for an entire year. He saw
him in games, he saw him at practice, and I
do think there's room for improvement, clearly, and it will
be made by Fisher. But he was a second round
pick two years ago, or say a second round pick
this year.

Speaker 11 (01:30:33):
Choose Scruggs, by the way, a.

Speaker 6 (01:30:34):
Second round pick the year before that, and ursries light
years ahead of both of them, and Fisher's you know,
technically he's fighting for, say a swing tackle job.

Speaker 11 (01:30:44):
It's day one.

Speaker 6 (01:30:45):
I don't want to say, don't quote me on this,
but I do believe that's exactly what's going to happen.
Trent Brown also, interestingly, is on the pup list. He's
the biggest lineman that I have they have. He actually
towers over every time.

Speaker 11 (01:30:59):
That He's huge, a bit much he's so tall.

Speaker 6 (01:31:02):
He carries it like he's not crazy overweight.

Speaker 11 (01:31:04):
He really does.

Speaker 6 (01:31:05):
But at some point during camp, probably soon, he will
be out there as well, and he could if healthy,
he could play his way into that mix for sure.

Speaker 2 (01:31:14):
Any thoughts initial first impressions of Nick Chubb.

Speaker 6 (01:31:18):
I think this is a player who's making Damian Pierce's
roster spot tenuous at best. Dariogunbowally is going to make
this team. Nick Chubb and Joe Mixon are going to
make this team. What he marks was just drafted. He's
going to make this team. Well that's for running backs
right now that I'm telling you are all making the team.
I'm not sure where that leaves Damian Pierce. And obviously
with him on the pup list and not practicing, and

(01:31:39):
he did not practice during the off season because of injury,
I do think that makes it tenuous.

Speaker 11 (01:31:44):
But Nick Chubb, I think is going to be one of.

Speaker 6 (01:31:46):
The most effective late ads that this team ended up making.
He was there for just a day of actual work
on the field during the offseason, but he's gonna matter
this year.

Speaker 1 (01:31:56):
It gives you an.

Speaker 11 (01:31:57):
Option to not overwork Joe Mixon.

Speaker 6 (01:32:00):
He obviously missed time last year, and I think Nick
Chubb is far enough away from his injury, and these
are basically his words, far enough away from.

Speaker 11 (01:32:06):
That injury that had him sidelined for so long.

Speaker 6 (01:32:09):
He came back last year and played not very effectively,
because I don't think he was where he is today
health wise. I think you're going to see a pretty
useful player again as a backup. There are not too
many second team running backs that I think can provide
what he will.

Speaker 11 (01:32:23):
For this team.

Speaker 1 (01:32:25):
Most interesting thing that Nick Casserio and Demiko Ryan said today, I.

Speaker 11 (01:32:30):
Think Jamiko Ryans was good.

Speaker 6 (01:32:32):
And he said this before about the offensive line. I
can keep telling you about what I see, I can
keep telling you about who's working hard, but until these
guys play somebody else, I don't really he doesn't even care.

Speaker 11 (01:32:42):
He doesn't even really pay attention to it.

Speaker 6 (01:32:44):
When they have a joint practice with the Panthers, when
they have a joint practice with the Lions, that's when
you're gonna get some real answers.

Speaker 11 (01:32:50):
About the offensive line.

Speaker 6 (01:32:52):
So he's basically saying, you can ask me all you
want about Cole Popovich, and he had some good stuff
about why things are different in that regard. This year
and ask me about how the offensive line looks and
the new culture and all this and that and the other.
But until we see them put pads on and play
against somebody, obviously playing against Danil Hunter and Will Anderson
every day with pads on, the next three weeks will
also matter.

Speaker 11 (01:33:12):
But it's really about what do you look.

Speaker 6 (01:33:13):
Like when you're actually competing, And that's just not what's
happening today.

Speaker 1 (01:33:18):
And who do you think the CJ. Stroud had the
best custom handshake with among the offensive linemen.

Speaker 11 (01:33:23):
That's a good question.

Speaker 6 (01:33:24):
I think his custom handshakes really are the running backs
and the wideouts. His work with Xavier Hutchinson is pretty good,
it's pretty elaborate. His work with Nick Chubb is nothing.
He shakes his hand, that's it. That's all I saw
from him. To everybody else has a move, a dance,
a hip thrust, something, But Nick Chubb, the veteran, all business.

Speaker 1 (01:33:45):
And should we do that up here at Sports Talk
seven ninety get custom handshakes with everyone?

Speaker 11 (01:33:49):
Well, you and Matt obviously should.

Speaker 1 (01:33:52):
I guess that's true. Yeah, what's on the Big eighteen today?
Coming up at three o'clock.

Speaker 11 (01:33:57):
It was only a matter of time.

Speaker 1 (01:34:02):
I appreciate you joining us. Hey, at least you came
to work today sort of. You went over to Texans
and you came on this show, and for that, we
thank you. Your partner is dead to me, I.

Speaker 11 (01:34:12):
Was that Texans at eight o'clock. That was my four
hour shift today.

Speaker 1 (01:34:16):
Yeah, I respect that. All right, Hey, you your partner
nowhere to be found.

Speaker 11 (01:34:24):
We can talk to him tomorrow too.

Speaker 2 (01:34:26):
Oh don't worry, I will. I've already texting him how
lazy he is.

Speaker 11 (01:34:30):
Crush us on social media?

Speaker 2 (01:34:31):
Please? Oh no, I would never do that. Yeah, actually
I would. Thanks Weax, We'll see you later.

Speaker 1 (01:34:36):
That's so Adam Wexer with Wex's walkout as part of
his instagram, and now our instagram is better than his.

Speaker 2 (01:34:45):
Ours.

Speaker 1 (01:34:45):
Ours, of course is at sports MT at sports R.
But if you want to pull Wex's too, it's Adam.
I'm sure he's got some camp stuff on there.

Speaker 8 (01:34:52):
Right.

Speaker 1 (01:34:53):
Oh yeah, he's did does the patent walking out with
wex Oh yeah, that's true.

Speaker 2 (01:34:57):
And I think you starggling with a practice with him,
so you can the phone. I gotta get here for
the show.

Speaker 1 (01:35:02):
Yeah, practice is normally like at nine, right, we gotta
carry four hours in the middle of the day. We're
doing all this heavy lifting. Allybody's just standing out there
looking for jobs. Yeah, I'm not back hurts exactly.

Speaker 4 (01:35:12):
Thank you.

Speaker 1 (01:35:13):
WEX appreciate the insight. Well get and we're gonna put
WEX to work. You didn't know this ship. But I'd
rather talk to WEX than other people. I thot you're
gonna saying Adam Clinton.

Speaker 2 (01:35:20):
Well, but I mean Adam would have to go to
our problem.

Speaker 3 (01:35:22):
That's true.

Speaker 2 (01:35:23):
You know what I mean, he can't can't, he can't
come on and what is he doing right now? Eating?

Speaker 10 (01:35:32):
All right?

Speaker 1 (01:35:32):
And by he's within twenty feet of his pool. Astro's
on deck coming up at one. Baby's nibbling on Teresa's
neck while she's trying to work. Oh right, okay, Well
they needs to know that just you asked me what
I was would potentially be doing. So you're saying baby
number two in nine months, I'm gonna go and put
that as a negatory.

Speaker 2 (01:35:51):
I mean I think he would. I think she's like
I'm had plenty.

Speaker 1 (01:35:53):
Seven one three, two, one two, five seven, twelve twenty eight.
Jim Bowden's gonna join us from Sirius XM and uh,
CBS Sports. He is a former general manager of the
Cincinni writes, and he can give us the intel what
he thinks the Astros could and should do at the
trade headline, twelve twenty eight, Sports Talk seven ninety.

Speaker 2 (01:36:21):
All right, now we're getting a little too deep cut
here for me. What do you mean, cough you like it?

Speaker 1 (01:36:28):
I can listen to a couple of songs, so I'm
gonna say all due respect, Guzy, may you rest in peace.
I'm not listening to the song. It's always sounds like
there he's in the background singing right. Uh yeah, they
layer the vocals. Yeah, all right. Twelve thirty two, Thanks
to Wex for joining us. And he doesn't know the ship,
but he's gonna join us on a semi regular basis.
He doesn't know this, but he is.

Speaker 2 (01:36:49):
I mean unless he's if he listened to us, he is,
but you know he doesn't. You know, I'll definitely refer
to him frequently.

Speaker 1 (01:36:55):
Uh seven one three two five seven nine zero seven
one three two one two nine eight is the Matt
Thomas Show with Ross. Jim Bown's going to join us
at one o'clock. We will have Astros on deck at
one thirty, believe it or not, Today's all things about
Ozzie asboard at one twenty. All right, anything else we've
missed today we got whenever the day Neck Brown cuts

(01:37:16):
you want to play? Is there anything else you wanted
to play from the Dana Brown stuff that you wanted
to play?

Speaker 2 (01:37:19):
Or do you want to save it for on deck?

Speaker 6 (01:37:20):
Oh?

Speaker 1 (01:37:20):
Yeah, wait, we were supposed to let me go. Look,
optimism is flowing. You want to hear what he has
to say about Lance mccullors Junior and his blister?

Speaker 9 (01:37:34):
Yo, wanna Yeah, you know, blisters could be tricky.

Speaker 4 (01:37:37):
It sort of happened right before the last the last start,
and then it was really aggravated during that during that start,
and so you know they could be tricky. But you know,
hopefully it's not too long.

Speaker 1 (01:37:53):
That's our phone system, right, Yeah, a lot of our
phone our computers are both. It's probably a little bit
of both went in doubt, blame us. It's great, fantastic
And then another one I wanted to play his h
Well you can react, Lance, what color's got a blister?
I mean I have no pictures, Yeah, I mean blisters
are very common among pictures, so that's not out of
the ordinary. Fortunately, it's happening to a guy who has

(01:38:16):
had a storied injury history.

Speaker 2 (01:38:20):
I mean the weight landing on his foot.

Speaker 11 (01:38:25):
M hm.

Speaker 1 (01:38:26):
I believe also his dog ate his homework. He's gonna
be missed fifteen days with that? Did say his kids
even say the dog gament homework anymore? That's all digital
rights on the tablets. The dog ate your tablet? Still okay? Oh,
he sounds like somebody is speaking of from experience. You know,
here's what you here's what they're getting to have through.
Now the teachers are saying that they're cheating because they're

(01:38:50):
using a I and they're using the Internet to write
their papers. Yeah, so you can go back to handwritten.
Let's go get them hand cramps going like we did.
I will say this that my daughter was accused of
that and it turned out to be that was incorrect
and the teacher had to apology. I believe her.

Speaker 2 (01:39:08):
Yeah, I mean it was proof.

Speaker 1 (01:39:10):
Okay, what was the proof?

Speaker 5 (01:39:13):
It was?

Speaker 2 (01:39:14):
Hey, here's what I did.

Speaker 1 (01:39:15):
Here's my research, and the generator that tried to figure
out that the paper was cut and paste was not accurate.
So I was I was exonerated once, and but I
cheated in that grade.

Speaker 4 (01:39:26):
Oh.

Speaker 2 (01:39:26):
I mean, here's the thing.

Speaker 1 (01:39:27):
I can't crush if she did, because I cheated in
high school, cheating in college. You ain't cheating. You ain't
trying anyways, Dan Brown, what's gonna happen during the trade deadline?

Speaker 4 (01:39:41):
Strategic? You know, you want to be strategic in what
you do. You know you want to acquire the right player.
You definitely want to make sure that it makes sense
for the organization and what we're doing as we continue
to grind through winning present and the future future. And

(01:40:02):
so you have to really think through all these things
that they're dead and you try to acquire the right
player and it's going to get you over the hump
and and get you back to the postseason and deep
into the postseason. And so that is what we're you know,
we're doing. We're trying to be strategic about this. We're
having meetings constantly, and we'll meet all the way up
to the deadline.

Speaker 2 (01:40:23):
I do believe everything he said.

Speaker 1 (01:40:26):
I do believe they are kicking They're legitimately kicking the
tires on whether or not they need to make a trade.
And I'm telling you, even though all these positive things
which you'll hear during ondec about the pittures are right
around the corner.

Speaker 3 (01:40:41):
Ross.

Speaker 2 (01:40:42):
I still think you have to go get pitching. I
still think it. Nope, I don't. Okay, I understand you think.

Speaker 6 (01:40:48):
No.

Speaker 1 (01:40:48):
You're reasonable in saying the Astros could use a picture.

Speaker 4 (01:40:52):
M h.

Speaker 1 (01:40:53):
However, the more pressing need is a bat. They don't
have the capital to fill every need. They just don't.
They're bargain bin shopping. They're at Darshals. Why Handah handed
with the black cart at Nordstroms. Oh my god, Hannah.
If she wants something, she'll get it, whether her house
is exact, house is okay or not.

Speaker 2 (01:41:14):
They're not doing that. Go look up.

Speaker 1 (01:41:17):
Do me a favorite. I'll segue to this. Cedric Mullins
numbers in just the last week or so. Okay, give
me the month of July for Cedric Mullins. CenTra Mullins
is a very talented center fielder for the Baltimore Oriols.
The Baltimore Oriols are in full cell mode. The Baltimore
Oriols have been a major disappointment after winning and making
the playoffs each of the last two years, only to
get knocked out each of the last two years hit

(01:41:38):
the first round. He's hitting two thirteen with thirteen home runs.
You want the lasting the last week. Maybe he's catching
some fire. If someone since July first, yeah, uh, he
is hitting two seventeen with a six twenty oh ps
one home run this month. Jeff Passing, friend of the show,

(01:42:01):
says that's a candidate he believes would fit the Astros
best in the trade.

Speaker 4 (01:42:04):
Now.

Speaker 1 (01:42:06):
Is he saying that because he believes that Cedric Mullins
in a new scenery, new team, back in the Pennant
Race would be better than what his numbers are right now?
Or is he saying that's all the Astros are willing
to give up in a potential trade. Maybe he's having
some bad luck. Maybe he's got a hard lot of
hard hit contact. Matt, you can't just use batting. I'm
going to guarantee you, Dana Brown. Whoever, if they're looking

(01:42:27):
at Cedric Mullins, they're not just looking at batting average
and ops. His career track record is by the way, Yeah,
first of all, yes, he's left handed, decent bat career
OPS plus of one o six. I mean, with those
who don't know, averages one hundred, around fifteen home runs,

(01:42:50):
in the bat he's already at thirteen. He hit eighteen
last year, fifteen the year before he did a crazy
In twenty one he hit thirty homers, and he plays
pretty good center field. And also, I mean that would
make more sense if we don't know how long Jake

(01:43:10):
Myers is gonna be out. Yeah, not resuming any sort
of swing. He is rehabbing here in Houston. He has
not gone to any minor leagues. He has not gone
to Florida to work out with anybody there. So Jeff
Passing describing the Astros as adding but not all in
meaning how aggressively be at the deadline. Biggest need, he says,

(01:43:32):
his left handed back, which I think you could certainly argue,
not argue that. And the best fit, he says, is
outfielder Cedric Mullins. I mean, look, if the Astros bring
Cedric Mullins here, it'll be better than what they're trotting
at right now.

Speaker 2 (01:43:47):
I mean, it is what it is.

Speaker 1 (01:43:49):
He's a guy who's been there, done that. He's been
kind of on the Astros right over the last couple
of years. But it's the kind of minor move that's
not going to set the world on fire. And it's
also not going to tell the entire Major League Baseball
world that the Astros are going to go from a
team that's fighting for the top spot American League to
a team that maybe fighting for the best record overall.

(01:44:09):
I don't think he's a game change to the numbers.
Just don't bear that out. This year, there have been
some names mentioned by chandler Rome. Subscribe to the Athletic Folks.
Always great stuff from chandler Rome talking about the Rays.
Probably not going to be inclined to move Brandon Low,
who also is on the IL now with a foot injury.

Speaker 2 (01:44:25):
But are you even needing a second base if Bryce
Matthews is the answer.

Speaker 1 (01:44:30):
Well depends if praise is out? Could Bryce play third?
I played short and triple A you don't want him
playing short? Apparently it feels like to me they don't
want to move him around. They think young Man just happened. Yeah,
probably not. But if you can get Brandon Low, but
that's not probably not gonna happen anyways. Colorado's Ryan McMahon.

(01:44:51):
But apparently it could be a luxury tax thing. The
Astros are only two million below the tax, so we
know that Jim Crane wants to avoid the tax because
the penalties are bigger and more significant if you are

(01:45:12):
a repeated going into the tax repeatedly.

Speaker 2 (01:45:17):
Just doesn't feel like they would be going over the tax.

Speaker 1 (01:45:21):
As I said before, when you and I talked on Monday,
do you think that a hard conversation is happening inside
the ivory towers of the Astros or Jim Crane's going
and saying, hey, we are just not on borrow time,
but man, we are extraordinarily lucky. Are we really one
player from getting over the top? Is that one player

(01:45:43):
via trade? Or is that one player among our seventeen
guys that are injured, of which twelve of them have
had some opportunity to come back this year. Could he
be thinking that?

Speaker 2 (01:45:54):
Why wouldn't you be thinking of that?

Speaker 1 (01:45:55):
Especially if Dana Brown now again, Just because he tells
Sean Salisbury optimistic things I want doesn't necessarily mean that
that's what he's being what he's telling his boss. On
the other end, Ry McMahon plays mostly third base, and
he's got an OPS plus ninety three. You need a
new third baseman. Honestly, tell me where paratus is. I

(01:46:19):
can't get back tomorrow I do a gut feeling, did
I did? I mark it down? I think he's probably
gonna be out for the regular season minimum. That's just
my gut feeling. And at that point, why would regular
season make Why would you say all this coming October first,
you'd be ready to go. I mean, who's the same
I think Jim Crane wants you to. I think it's
two things. It's either, Dana, I want you to stay

(01:46:41):
under the tax unless you're making moves that are going
to win us a World Series. If you've got a
couple of deals for rentals and they're just kind of
depth deals, don't do it. If you think you can
strike Dal's heels gets him under the tax, my guess
well they're no, they're only two million under.

Speaker 2 (01:47:02):
But I mean, if you're pro rating a contra, you're pro.

Speaker 1 (01:47:04):
Rating one hundred games in you need somebody making less
than what six million dollars.

Speaker 2 (01:47:09):
That kind of feels accurate. I got one for you too, Rossie.

Speaker 1 (01:47:14):
How about if you're really gonna make a trade, if
you're really gonna go to that farm system and use
it one more time, how about you get somebody with
club control for next year and not gonna renp. It's
gonna cost you more, and then you got to give
up more and you're already limited with the resources. Twelve
forty three. It is the Matt Thomas Show with Ross
coming up in eighteen minutes. Will bounce all these things

(01:47:34):
off of Jim Bownden.

Speaker 2 (01:47:35):
He'll be with us.

Speaker 1 (01:47:36):
The former general manager of the CINCINNTI Reds will be
with us year on Sports Talk seven twelve forty nine,
man in Ross with you, we are into baseball mode.

Speaker 2 (01:47:49):
At one o'clock.

Speaker 1 (01:47:50):
Jim Bound's gonna join us from Sirius XM radio, former
general manager of the Cincinnati Reds seven one three two five,
seven nine zero. We'll have Believe It or Not all
things about Ozzy Osbourne at one twenty and then Ross
and I will host Astros on Deck at one thirty.
And where will you be tonight? Right after the game
is al said? Yes, Matthew will be at Carbuck Brewing,
myself and Chris Gordy. We do the Crawford Box cast. Well,

(01:48:14):
we do a live taping Slash tint Inning show from
Carbuck Brewing from when the game ends until seven pm.

Speaker 2 (01:48:23):
Is Gordy's head going to be really big sins. It
got on Fine Bomb yesterday. I think it should be.

Speaker 1 (01:48:27):
It was great, proud of him. You say it's awesome.
I watched like thirty seconds of it. I don't necessarily
believe you. What why would you watch thirty seconds of
your friend? And then it's seeing enough anybys talking about
SEC football. It's didn't interest me that much. But I
think I mean being on the Fine Bomb program, that's amazing.
It's one of the biggest programs in the entire country.

(01:48:48):
Great for him. I don't doubt anything you said. I
just don't think you're on. I don't think you watched
it for thirty seconds. You think I was under I
think you didn't watch it at all. Oh, you're wrong, Okay,
I saw him fixing his hair, Oh my god, or
Gordy's gotta comb over? Do you don't don't shame him
on that.

Speaker 9 (01:49:07):
I see.

Speaker 1 (01:49:07):
I did not say that you did. Don't shame No nothing,
Matt was being mean.

Speaker 2 (01:49:14):
No, it was nice.

Speaker 1 (01:49:15):
What else you lied about the amount of time you
watched Gordy show? I literally retweeted did you retweet it?

Speaker 2 (01:49:21):
I want to know you didn't?

Speaker 1 (01:49:23):
Yeah I did, I said, I said, I'll remember Chris
Gordy when oh, okay, so you quote tweeted it was
something snarky. I gave it a straight eye tweet. That
means when I say that, when I say that means
that's a that's a very very oh that's your love
last No, it's like I remember who he was, just
work with us. Now he's gonna be big network. Everybody's
going network around these parts except me and you. We're Downgrain.

(01:49:44):
We're gonna be in Buffalo by the end of the week.
Aggie dug at twelve fifty on seven eighty, What do
you gotwdy boys?

Speaker 8 (01:49:51):
Here are we all?

Speaker 1 (01:49:51):
Amazing?

Speaker 2 (01:49:52):
Great?

Speaker 8 (01:49:54):
Excellent? Uh So I was talking on my podcast on
Sunday about that. I don't think I don't think the
Ashleys are going to make a move guys, or anything significant.
I mean, first of all, look at what we have
to offer at this point, and they're basically playing for
us right now. So I don't think you're going to
basically trade one for one just say, hey, you want
a couple of our starters so we can get one

(01:50:15):
of your starters. I mean, it doesn't really make a
whole lot of sense at this point. And I think
with mccullor's going to the d L or the I L.
I think it's I think what you kind of do
is you have to start looking at like maybe even
a relieving game, a piggyback game where basically Gusto pitches
three and then maybe Gordon comes in and pitches three.

(01:50:36):
I think that it's got to start thinking outside the
box until Arraghetti and Javier are going to get back,
because I think those are the two guys that we
can depend on coming back, and dude, if we get Garcia,
that's gravy. As far as Jordon, I think Jordan is
going to come back. Unfortunately, I think it's going to
be like every other day start until we get to
the playoffs, and then I think Pena, I think Myers

(01:50:59):
hopefully will be okay. If not, you can kind of
get by with a cam Smith possibly moving to center.
So I think the Ashley has got a lot of options.
It's just they're all kind of playing for us right now.
So I mean, we literally have seventeen guys, and doesn't
that mean that we have twenty three on our roster
right now and you're supposed to have twenty four to
twenty six.

Speaker 1 (01:51:19):
You have guys on the sixty day IL as well,
which means they don't have to be on the forty. Yeah,
that seventeen includes the guys that are like the Wisnesky's
of the world and the Renel Blancos.

Speaker 8 (01:51:29):
Gotcha, Okay, Yeah, so I just I just didn't know
how that worked. But yeah, I know that we have
the Don't you still have the whole injury or the
COVID thing that they had back in the day. Don't
they still do that as well?

Speaker 2 (01:51:40):
Taxi squad, I don't believe there is a taxi squad.

Speaker 1 (01:51:43):
There is one.

Speaker 8 (01:51:44):
I think I think you can designate one player for that.

Speaker 2 (01:51:47):
Okay, that makes it not a squad.

Speaker 1 (01:51:48):
It makes it just a taxi guy, taxi guy, your
taxi driver.

Speaker 8 (01:51:52):
Well, long, long, short, long, take short.

Speaker 2 (01:51:54):
I don't think we're going to do a move, Yeah,
I mean yeah, put this way. Thanks Andy for the
phone call.

Speaker 1 (01:52:02):
If if you were to put on the big board
zero moves, super minor moves, move or while going to
rock the Baseball World move, I bet you zero move
or minor move would be equal on.

Speaker 2 (01:52:16):
The on the on the on the on the bad line.

Speaker 1 (01:52:18):
I think a right handed reliever happens. I don't know
if it's gonna be a big name. You could. Feels
like you can find guys you can move around cash considerations,
you know, some prospect or whatever like this. If I
can go get a good decent left handed bat, can
I give up one of my lefty relievers?

Speaker 4 (01:52:39):
Now?

Speaker 1 (01:52:40):
How can you know how how how valuable left handed
relieving is in Major League Baseball? Wow, that Dusty Baker does.
Uh yeah, But everybody who's performing well for you basically
you made them what they are. So I don't know
how other teams and and also short sample sizes, we've
seen it. Matt relievers can be good for a few

(01:53:00):
months or six months. A yeah, I mean Taylor Scott
were literally last year year where we were right now
we're talking about what a great fine Taylor Scott was. Well,
how about Brian King? Just last night, Brian King in
the ninth ning was a chance to get his first save.
First three batters he sees, he gives up base hits,
bases loaded, and then if not four nine he did
get the striker that was the first out, and then
he induces them the double play.

Speaker 2 (01:53:21):
But that was not an easy double play to create.

Speaker 1 (01:53:22):
You know, my favorite thing was people were before a
run had scored. People were crushing a spot of for
using a bray you in the eighth instead of the
ninth against the top of the lineup a higher leverage
spot against the best Diamondbacks hitters two, three, four, Yeah,

(01:53:44):
they were before a run scored. What is Joas Botta doing,
Brian Kings gets out of it. Not peep out anybody, No, no,
congratulations Joas Motta. He put the guy out there that
you said what he said was gonna get into runs
and you were all calling him an idiot and then
he didn't give up a run and they won the game.
No thanks, ridiculous. I mean, I know, flow hanging fruit.

(01:54:06):
It's a lot of idiots out there. When do we
learn Is that not a teaching moment for some for
some of you people that were crushing a spot before
run even scored, or you just move on and you
just think you're always right.

Speaker 2 (01:54:19):
No, no, no, it was the It was when it
wasn't a bray you in the ninth and it was
King instead.

Speaker 1 (01:54:23):
But if you had realized he'd been watching the Astros
at any point you realize that Josh has been used
a bunch in the last week and a bunch of
high pitch County things. Oh yeah, but people were wanting
a bray you in the ninth when he was first
second strain inning, I'm sorry, sorry, instead of swapping him,
instead of pitching the eighth, pitching the ninth. Yeah, no,
I totally get it. And we've seen that in baseball

(01:54:44):
a lot in the last decade. If you've got three
high leverage guys that go get in your lineup in
the eighth, then you put your high leverage reliever out there.

Speaker 2 (01:54:51):
And that's exactly what they did.

Speaker 1 (01:54:52):
The number one reliever available to the Astros last night
pitched against the three most important guys in that lineup. Now,
granted I've six seven got on the base pass, I
get it. That wasn't great, But I would rather take
my chances Brian King going after the back half of
the lineup than I would against the front half of
the line Take in, deep breath, You're fine, Okay, thank you.

(01:55:16):
All right, let's talk to Jim Bowden. He will join
us to start the final hour of the show, believe
it or not. After that and then we've got Astros
on deck. Oh, it's a busy next half hour here
on seven ninety it is one on one on Sports
Talk seven ninety. We are very pleased to be joined
by a man you can here on Sirius XM Radio
on the Baseball channel that does a great job. It's

(01:55:38):
MLB Network Radio, also contributor for the Athletic and has
a terrific perspective because he is a former general manager
of the Cincinnati Reds. Longtime baseball executive Jim Bowden with
us here on the Matt Thomas, joeld Ross, Jim, It's
Matt and Ross.

Speaker 2 (01:55:51):
Thank you for the time, and we appreciate it. Let
me ask you right off the get go.

Speaker 1 (01:55:54):
We know, look, we live through the world of the
Astros and we are completely stunned at what they're able
to do. Five game lead the American League West, tied
for the second best record.

Speaker 2 (01:56:05):
In the American League.

Speaker 1 (01:56:07):
Are other cities doing this with their teams or are
the Astros just this incredible one off of injured players
that are just pulling off this miracle story so far
this year.

Speaker 10 (01:56:16):
Well, you've got a great general manager and Dana Brown
who has done incredible things, and I think you have
to start there right, I mean, you know, it's really
hard to move on from a superstar player like Kyle Tucker.
But he was able to pitvot and turn that into
Cam Smith and esocked Paratus. That was an amazing trade

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for the Houston Astros to allow them to continue to contend.
And he has done an incredible job of drafting since
he's been there as well. He has a keen eye
on prospects and talent. He's not afraid to promote prospects.
He's not afraid to pull that trigger if he thinks
the prospect is ready to compete and help win at
the major league level. And credit ownership too. I mean,

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you know, the ownership of the Astros is the one
that continuously makes these moves right and moved on from
aj Hinch to Dusty Baker or Joe a Spot and
moved on from Jeff Luno to Dana Brown. I mean,
he's done a really good job in that seat. And
he gives his gms the finances it takes to win,
the creativity, not afraid to walk away from giving a

(01:57:20):
bad contract. And you know, I think it's just a
well oiled, well run organization. And I think one of
the things that stands out about this year's Astros team
is how good they are against good teams, and I
always look for that. That matters, especially when you start
to look ahead to October. The Astros are fourteen and
four against the first place teams and all the teams

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in the first place right now, and they've got two
races in Hunter Brown and from Bervaldez, which means an
impact closer. And hey, they're in a great setup guy
in a bray, which means you can run the table
in the playoffs pretty easily. And they're not done. I mean, look,
I think Dana Brown's either going to get a big
starter or I think he's going to get a big
left handed bat. At the deadline, we'll say we're a
week away. But Houston, you don't have a problem.

Speaker 1 (01:58:03):
You brought up the ownership and one of the things
that we have to fight here with some of our
naive Astro fans is that Jim Crane doesn't spend money.
The Astros are always top seven, top eight and payroll,
and it's been that way for about seven or eight
years now, especially as a team has been good.

Speaker 2 (01:58:18):
What he won't do is he won't do those super
mega contracts.

Speaker 1 (01:58:21):
Let's not use Miami, maybe your former team, maybe some
of the bottom third teams that just haven't had a
history of spending it. But like the top twenty teams,
are other cities fighting for their players to get seven,
eight year, nine year contracts Or is Jim a one
off on this?

Speaker 10 (01:58:41):
No, everyone is fighting for the same thing, and I
think if you give them, you've got to make sure
you're giving it to the right guy. Now let's go
back in history. Did they make a mistake in not
paying Carlos Korea? No, they didn't make a mistake. The
right decision was to walk away. Jeremy Payn yet before
he got injured, was the best player on the Astros
this year, so they were able to replace him. But

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if you had given the Korea the Twins contract or
what the Giants and Nets had offered for the medical
Knicks those deals, you know everyone regreted. Minnesota doesn't want
to have that on their books right now. I'm sorry.

Speaker 2 (01:59:15):
He's a good player.

Speaker 10 (01:59:16):
I love Carlos care help win a World championship for
Houston in twenty seventeen. I get it, But walking away
was the right move. And I know George Springer is
having a fountain of youth season for them. But anyone
that watched them the last two years has to be
happy that the Askers didn't give him that long term deal.
You know, I would say the one that the one
that he didn't do that I think he should have

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done was Kyle Tucker. That's just my opinion, because I
think he's going to age extremely well and I think
at one point they could have given him the Austin
Riley deal that the Braves gave to Riley, and that's
the one I would have done. But I give them credit.
And you know, look, if you have a GM that
can turn Tucker into camp Smith and Paradis and keep winning,

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you know, it's hard to sit there and argue that
Jim Crane didn't make the right decision. You know, you're
gonna have six years of cam Smith and by the way,
you know when you're gonna pay Tucker six hundred million. Now,
see see when you could have signed them at the
Austin Ryley deal. That would have been a good investment.
You can't sign Tucker now. That's why they had to
trade him because otherwise he's going to be six hundred million.

(02:00:21):
And you know you're not Philip You're not in New York, Philadelphia, LA.
You know you're a top eight market, but you're not.
You know, you don't have the revenues that they have.
So you know, to put six hundred million on one player, No,
you go trade for Cam Smith and Paradis.

Speaker 1 (02:00:36):
Jim Bowden with us here on Sports Talk seven ninety
Ross with you as well here Jim and I had
a question for you about the Astros having a lot
of pitchers on the IL, but a lot of these
guys rehabbing. What do you think philosophically if you can
put yourself in Dana Brown's shoes where you've got guys
like Spencer Arragatty, Christian Xavier, Luis Garcia possibly.

Speaker 2 (02:00:56):
Coming back, but you need starting pitching.

Speaker 1 (02:00:58):
What is it like for you trying to way when
guys are coming back and addressing the need at the deadline.

Speaker 10 (02:01:06):
You always have a need go get as many as
you can. Here's what you can't control and you haven't
been haven't been able to control it for six years.
For six years. You can't make waiver trades in August.
So if you get two more injuries in August, what
are you gonna do? You can only bring up the
guys in Triple A. It's not like you can do
what you did in twenty seventeen when you traded for
Justin Berland or on August thirty first and ended up

(02:01:27):
winning a world championship. Right, It's not going to be like,
you know, when the Rangers Chris Young went out and
traded for Jordan Montgomery when everyone else is trying to
get him, and he won a world championship with Jordan Montgomery.
So you can't you know, you don't know who's gonna
get hurt in August, in September. All you have to
do is look at the Dodgers' injury list. They have
eleven guys on the injured list, a lot of their

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star pitchers on the injured list. Right, take a deep breath,
and let's understand that's part of baseball in twenty twenty five.
Because we're doing such a great job of teaching pictures
how to maximize velocity, maximized player movement, maximize grips, guys
are gonna get hurt because the body, the pitching body,
when you're born, was not meant to do this. It

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wasn't meant to throw a hundred. It wasn't The elbow
wasn't meant to be bent at the angles that we're
bending it now. The pitchers are gonna blow out. You
can't get enough. You just can't. So don't count on guys.
It's just keep trading for as much pitching as you can,
and when you're done doing that, go get some more.
And when you're done doing that, get more than that.
You'll never have enough.

Speaker 1 (02:02:28):
It's interesting you bring that up, because I was actually
going to talk about that with you as well as
is this just the new normal? This is just how
it's gonna be. You just build teams and get as
much pitching and guys are just gonna blow their arms out.

Speaker 10 (02:02:40):
Yeah, and then we've got to help. The medical team
continues to find ways to improve the surgeries. I mean,
you know, I think this new brace surgery is working.
Look at Lucas Giolido in Boston. It's working. That's exciting,
you know. And we've got Brandon Woodriff coming back from
the shoulder surgery at a level where it looks like
he hasn't missed a beat. He looks like at n

(02:03:01):
ACE right now in Milwaukee. You know, back in the
day when I was a GM. There's no chance you
come back from that shoulder. But the medical profession is
really figuring out how to get guys healthy. But you're
still gonna have to You've got to imagine that every
picture you have at some point is going to miss
a year and a half with Tommy John surgery. You
just got to bang every time you sign a guy,

(02:03:22):
you got to tell your own if you're gonna give
Corbyn Burns eight years, you got to tell them you're
only gonna get six, and you're only gonna get four
good years, and you're gonna get two years where you
regress in two years where he's on the injured list.
And that's just what you have to expect. That's where
we are right now. That's where the industry is until
someone can figure out a better way to do it.
That's what you're looking at.

Speaker 1 (02:03:40):
A couple more minutes here with Jim Bound with us
from MLB Network Radio and Serious XM. Jim speaking of pitching,
what's the market going to be on from er Veldez
next year?

Speaker 10 (02:03:51):
He gonna get paid. I mean, it's Binds the man.
They're not out there. He gonna get paid. He won't
be an Astro. I mean, I don't. I don't see how.
I don't see how Jim Crane and Dana Brown are
going to be able to pay him.

Speaker 8 (02:04:01):
I really don't.

Speaker 10 (02:04:02):
So, I mean, I'd like to be optimistic and say
it's going to happen, but you know, when you're competing
with the Yankees checkbook and the Dodgers checkbook and the
Mets checkbook, it's you know, it's it's hard to keep
these guys and they all get overpaid. And as I
just explained, once you sign them everything you've seen for
the last five years, don't think you're going to see

(02:04:23):
it the next five years. At some point he's going
to get hurt and he's going to miss time. It's
going to happen. At some point he's going to regress.
That's the way it happened. So the question is do
you want to go and take the two hundred and
twenty million dollar gamble or do you want to do
what the Mets are doing. I mean, that's look, it's
it's it's risky. But you also have to understand if

(02:04:45):
you're going to commit the two hundred and twenty million,
you might have to do what Arizona's doing and look
at him on the injured list, which doesn't feel good
at that money.

Speaker 1 (02:04:53):
Yeah, all right, crystal Ball time, and don't worry if
you're not, since you're doing the show in Houston here
you do. I'mil be Network Radio a huge audience. But
give us your crystal Ball assessment to how this American
League Playoffs is going to end up here in twenty
twenty five.

Speaker 10 (02:05:07):
Well, the Ostars are going to win the American League
West and they're going to get into the playoffs, and
then from there it's a total crap shoot. I think
Houston has as good a chance of any of getting
to the World Series. If I had to pick a
team today, I would pick Houston getting there. But that's
subject to change. We've got a long way to go.
But I do like, I do like how they're set

(02:05:28):
up with two aces to impact the leavers at the
back and a team that you know, grinds the way
they grind every day. But you know, I don't think
there's a lot of difference between Yankees, Blue Jays, Red Sox, Tigers, Mariners,
and I think the Rangers are going to get back
in this race too. I mean, I think we're I
think we're in for a really fun October because I

(02:05:49):
don't think they look at the National League. I think
they got six teams in the National League literally can
get to the World Series.

Speaker 2 (02:05:54):
I believe that.

Speaker 10 (02:05:55):
And if I look at the playoffs and the American League,
what you're asking me and say, Okay, which team has
no chance of getting to the World Series, There isn't one.
They all have a chance. We don't have, in my opinion,
the team in either league right now today that is
so dominant that they should be the clear favorites.

Speaker 1 (02:06:14):
And very last question, we're watching a certain very talented
third basement for Arizona Diamonbacks play the Astros this week
and he has been named up mister Suarez. We're speaking of.
What do you think he ends up here in the
next eleven twelve days.

Speaker 10 (02:06:26):
I don't know. That's a Mike has in question the
jam of the Diamondbacks. I talked to Mike on Sunday
and ask them and he is hoping he doesn't sell
the deadline. He said, I hope we have a really
good week, and I hope I can choke the supply
and help the sellers out by just taking Arizona out
of being a seller. That's what he's hoping to do.

(02:06:47):
We'll see how they play. You know, they're five and
a half games out. If we're sitting here next week
and they're three and a half out, he's not going
to trade him, So he'll be a diamondback. If we're
looking at it next week and he's seven and a
half games out and loses a couple more games, he's
gonna get traded. And then I think you have to
look at Yankees, Seattle Cubs as the most likely landing spots.

Speaker 2 (02:07:08):
Jim, I enjoy your work on MLB Network Radio. Thank
you so much for the time.

Speaker 1 (02:07:11):
We hope to bother you again down the road, and
we really appreciate your perspective on things. And enjoy the
rest of your day and enjoy this trade deadlinek coming
up next week.

Speaker 10 (02:07:19):
Thank you very much. I appreciate you having me on.

Speaker 1 (02:07:21):
Thank you Jim Bowden joining us, your excellent guest here
on the Matt Thomas Show. Ross well national perspective on
what could be happening.

Speaker 2 (02:07:28):
Did he say he's got the astros one in the
American link?

Speaker 1 (02:07:30):
Did he say that he's smart? Got to get him
back on and we'll see what happens in the deadline?
And how's you do it? Did he go on with
Softy and said the Mariners are going the American League Championship? No,
all right, I just want to make sure. All right,
let's play Believe or Not?

Speaker 2 (02:07:44):
You want to?

Speaker 3 (02:07:47):
Oh?

Speaker 1 (02:07:47):
Yeah, I wrote, it's already done. I'm gonna go get
a snack, locked and loaded.

Speaker 2 (02:07:52):
You get some food.

Speaker 1 (02:07:53):
We get ready for Astros on deck at the bottom
of the hour. But all things Ozzy Osbourne I Believe
It or Not? It's up next now the prize listening
to this early? Are they always tuned to Brady at
one fifty? Find out next?

Speaker 2 (02:08:05):
You want to play Believe It or Not?

Speaker 1 (02:08:06):
Seven one three two one two five seven ninety seven
one three two one two five seven ninety We have
Astros on deck coming up in about twelve thirteen minutes
from now. Tomorrow on the show, we'll have Brian mctaggard.
I don't know what he's flying back from Phoenix. We'll
have I just don't get it tomorrow we'll get a
lot of that. Our whole lives are just don't get it.
You have a good one already for tomorrow's show. Yeah,

(02:08:28):
I wrote it down you did. Don't remember what it
is already, but I wrote it, Yeah, I got it
an I wrote it to make sure. Uh, and we
have more on the Texans Day two of training camp lovely. Well,
we're getting daily reports from WEX.

Speaker 2 (02:08:41):
He doesn't know, but I'm gonna make sure.

Speaker 1 (02:08:43):
Okay, he's not doing anything.

Speaker 2 (02:08:44):
We lets you can talk to himself.

Speaker 8 (02:08:45):
No, I like that.

Speaker 1 (02:08:46):
I like a little football talk on the show. Yeah,
we'll get and we will get more of it when
we get closer for the season. Great, because I don't
know if aybody else in the market's talking Texans today.
I don't think they are.

Speaker 2 (02:08:57):
And that's what you're here for. We're here for you.

Speaker 5 (02:09:00):
Uh.

Speaker 1 (02:09:00):
You know, we'll start believing or not early here because
we want to get as much time as you on
the Astros on deck as possible.

Speaker 2 (02:09:05):
So we say with.

Speaker 1 (02:09:09):
Well, we were going to say it's nine minutes whatever,
six minutes left to go on the show, what should
we do? And we should play America's fastest growing sports
radio game show.

Speaker 2 (02:09:20):
We simply called it be leave it or not in here?

Speaker 1 (02:09:22):
So it works. You'll call seven one three two one
two five seven ninety seven one three two one two
five seven Nintie. Today's edition of Believe It or Not
is all things about Ozzy Osbourne. I will read your
statement about Ozzie. If the statement's completely utterly accurate, you'll
say this, believe it. If the statements he Ronnie is
full of bunking made up, you'll say this nah, Believe
it or not. If you get two of them right,

(02:09:43):
you're going to win one of these three prizes. One
is a seven ninety t shirt. Number two is a
pair of tickets for the Big Three August second at
Toda Center. You can see the Houston's Righands team, coached
by Rocket great Calvin Murphy, as they make their debut
that night. Tickets are on sale now at Toyota Center
dot com. And we also have a paired tickets to

(02:10:03):
see Nellie, Jah, Rule and Eve live at the Where
The Party at Tour September fourth at the Woodlands Pavilion.
Tickets are on sale now at ticketmaster dot com. So
we're talking about three different sets of prizes if you
win on today's edition of Believe It or Not, We'll
start with Matt on seven ninety. Matt, You're ready to
play Believe It or Not? Believe it, Matt, Good luck

(02:10:26):
to you, my friend, and here is your question. Ozzie
was born Oswalt Leonard Osbourne on October fifteenth, nineteen forty seven,
in Liverpool, England.

Speaker 2 (02:10:36):
Believe it or not?

Speaker 3 (02:10:39):
That is right.

Speaker 1 (02:10:39):
He was John Michael Osbourne nineteen forty eight in Manchester.
Statement number two for the win. A lifelong Beatles fan,
their songs She Loves You inspired Ozzy to become a musician.

Speaker 2 (02:10:51):
Believe it or not?

Speaker 3 (02:10:53):
Believe it?

Speaker 1 (02:10:54):
There you go?

Speaker 2 (02:10:55):
How about that.

Speaker 1 (02:10:57):
Now doesn't mean he was listening when we gave away
that freebier. Believe it makes me feel good that somebody
was got that right right off the top. Let's go
to Nelson on seven. Auntie Nelson, you're ready to play
Believe it or not?

Speaker 4 (02:11:07):
Believe it.

Speaker 1 (02:11:08):
Ozzi was banned from the l for peeing on it
in nineteen eighty two, but was allowed back in twenty
fifteen after apologizing to the city's mayor.

Speaker 2 (02:11:16):
Believe it or not.

Speaker 11 (02:11:19):
Not?

Speaker 1 (02:11:19):
That is a believe it. Yes, he's on good He
was on good terms with San Antonio. Let's go to
uh Felipe on seven. Unty Felipe, You're ready to play.

Speaker 2 (02:11:29):
Believe it or not?

Speaker 3 (02:11:31):
Believe it.

Speaker 1 (02:11:31):
Felipe Ozzi has a star on the Hollywood Walk of Fame.
Believe it or not?

Speaker 5 (02:11:37):
Believe it?

Speaker 1 (02:11:37):
You don't believe it? Statement number two for the wind.
Ozzie's wife, Sharon was first his manager before they got married.

Speaker 2 (02:11:44):
Believe it or not?

Speaker 5 (02:11:47):
Believe it?

Speaker 1 (02:11:47):
Yes, it's another order. Let's go to Ken on seven
hounty Ken, what was your favorite part of today's radio show?

Speaker 3 (02:11:57):
They asked us talk?

Speaker 1 (02:11:58):
In twenty thirteen, Rolling Stone magazine named Ozzie the one
hundred and twelfth best singer of all time.

Speaker 2 (02:12:06):
Believe it or not? One twelve.

Speaker 1 (02:12:09):
Oh that's not that is a believe it, believe it.
That's a lot of work cross for one hundred and
twelve twelve. Yeah, do a lot of research. Number one, Franklin,
do you know that for a fact?

Speaker 2 (02:12:19):
That's my vote. I would go one of them. I
think she's one of the lists.

Speaker 3 (02:12:22):
Two.

Speaker 1 (02:12:23):
Let's go to uh Yankees Keith on seven Yankees. Keith,
what was your favorite part of today's radio show?

Speaker 10 (02:12:29):
Too much as talk?

Speaker 1 (02:12:31):
Yeah?

Speaker 2 (02:12:31):
What did you want instead?

Speaker 1 (02:12:33):
Yankees talk? You know, here's one for you, Yank, here's
your Yankees talk. They suck, They really suck. They super suck.
How about that? How's your that's your Yankees talk for today.
Ozzie was scheduled to be the Ozzy was scheduled to
be the musical act in a nineteen eighty one episode
of Saturday Night Live, but executive producer Lauren Michael's canceled
at the last second for fear of him being hired

(02:12:53):
drunk on the set. Believe it or not, Believe it not,
that's things ross, It just does.

Speaker 2 (02:13:06):
Why because I gave it as a freebie earlier?

Speaker 1 (02:13:09):
Oh oh, Keith was busy Roy on seveniney Roy, You're
ready to play? Believe it or not?

Speaker 3 (02:13:15):
Believe it.

Speaker 2 (02:13:15):
Ozzie was a huge soccer fan.

Speaker 1 (02:13:17):
It owned a thirty percent interest in the Ashton Via
Football Club. Believe it or not not, that's right. He
was just a fan.

Speaker 2 (02:13:25):
You can gradual and in England they say Villa, Okay,
Ashton Villa.

Speaker 1 (02:13:30):
I know it's funny because I did the same thing
when I was when I was a fledgling soccer fan.
That's the ya ya Yeah, yeah exactly. Matt You're so
Hispanic I am. Then they called me mister. They call
me mister Houston. Yeah, they call you mister. Teresa sucks.
Oh you're stop.

Speaker 2 (02:13:49):
We gotta get we got wait a minute, why are
we breaking? Now? We got a minute? Just thought it's it.

Speaker 1 (02:13:54):
We can actually start on deck a little early. It's
you know, I got that long introduction. Okay, let's go
back to this real quick. No talk about it's a
greasy sausage. You're wrong. Oh sausage is greasy. Give me
a non greasy sausage, but not you know, you're just
gonna make me mad. I don't have We would have
sauce bas literally the definition of sausages. It's like in

(02:14:17):
trails and other greasy. We went and had barbecue last week.
The sausage wasn't greasy, Yes it was. I didn't think
it was. I think it was tender delicious. I'm not
gonna argue with your SOULDI is the most which is
also super greasy, almost the most wrong you've ever been.

Speaker 2 (02:14:30):
But it's fine.

Speaker 1 (02:14:31):
It's the mount rushmore wrongness.

Speaker 6 (02:14:33):
Now.

Speaker 2 (02:14:33):
My wife likes Terresa very much.

Speaker 1 (02:14:41):
Astros on deck four, Astros on deck next on sy