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Astros Take The Series From The Cubs! Pena Is Out On A Rib Injury, Can the Astros Take Anymore? 
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Speaker 1 (00:00):
This is the Matt Thomas Show with Ross ten oh one.

Speaker 2 (00:10):
In ah Town. Good morning, and welcome to a Monday
edition of The Matt Thomas Show with Ross. This is
Sports Talk seven ninety. The astro arms have done it,
the bats have done just enough, and your Stroves own
comfortably the second best record in the American League and

(00:35):
comfortably own a lead of six and a half games
in the American League West. Good evening, good morning, good night.
Remember where you may be, Rossie, how the hell are you?
Good morning to you. I'm having a great morning, Matt.
How are you good? Are good? Are you in down
in Britain? Now? No, I wish now we should peel

(00:55):
the curtain back. I was going to take these guys off,
but I felt like I needed to work with you.
Oh thank god. It was important. We're a little lean
on backup staff these days. Yeah, you were trying to
make me host with Clinton. I mean, come on, man,
I mean Clinton's off for a week. I said, you
know what, with my daughter playing in a national tournament
and she doesn't play until the evening time, I figured,
you know what, I need to work. I could I

(01:16):
could sit on my couch in my room.

Speaker 3 (01:19):
No, you don't have to lie. You already told us
the real reason last week. You know it was you
didn't want to get dragged to matches where your daughter
wasn't involved.

Speaker 2 (01:28):
That might be true, but nobody will hear that, at
least here in Dallas. That's good. They're not listening on
the iHeartRadio app, so you can certainly drag them through
the bud. I'm not dragging, I'm just want five miles away.
I'm just saying what you said. I didn't say it,
you said it. Thank you for once again bringing that up,

(01:49):
and that again is fair. I'm glad. So yes, I'm
going to work with you today through Wednesday. At the Thursdays,
she's got a series of day games, so I'll won't
be able to be with you. Thursday and Friday, we're
gonna all celebrate the fourth of July. But then Saturday
Ross on July fifth, I will recoup and be able
to work Astros on deck because they call you mister Saturday.

(02:09):
On Astro's broadcasting, they do call you mister Saturday Night. Yes,
how was your Saturday? By the way, you did these
Saturday A Lance Pa Colors post game?

Speaker 3 (02:18):
Yes, Uh, honestly, I thought with it being a night
game and it being a huge blowout, there wouldn't be
many calls, but we took a fair amount.

Speaker 2 (02:28):
We started fifteen, so had an hour ahead of you there.

Speaker 3 (02:31):
Yeah, we had the pregamers calling in uh oh, having
a couple before they went out, and that's okay. Only
one guy complained about Lance Pa colors are staying in
there too long.

Speaker 2 (02:41):
That's fine. And then they have to fire Joe's pot
because of that, correct.

Speaker 3 (02:45):
Yeah, of course, No, nobody's called for him to be
fire fired. Actually, most people were pretty reasonable. I mean,
when you're winning all these games like they are, and
you're you know what, it's sixteen, I guess what is it?

Speaker 2 (02:56):
Games above five hundred.

Speaker 3 (02:57):
At this point, even the complaining takes a back seat,
even after a twelve to three loss where Kyle Tucker
caves your face in with four hits and three runs
about it in Yeah, I think I had.

Speaker 2 (03:07):
The over under on three hits or less for Kyle
the Tucker series and that he got all of in
one game.

Speaker 3 (03:13):
We will we will revisit that during gut feelings. I
believe I had the over three I went against you.

Speaker 2 (03:20):
Yeah, that was probably the smart call it was. It
ended up being the right call, Matt, but well, you
know it is. The reality is you should only help me.
I should only go with my bets when I give
you over under totals, because that's Corres.

Speaker 3 (03:32):
Knows me for m m Now you are the over
under king ninety one average for Kyle Tucker this year,
and I.

Speaker 2 (03:40):
Feel like, and I don't want to give up on
this too soon, but I've already put some money away
for her a botche girl lunch because I feel like
he's going to get eight years. I'm thinking you're right
from er Valdez the Yeah, the only way he doesn't
get eight years is because of his age. That's the
only thing that's perhaps holding him back. But I don't
think it's gonna be enough. And he's twenty eight, right, Yeah,

(04:03):
but if you pay eight years, you're paying a lot
of money for a thirty six year old and maybe
that's not the best thing to do. We Max Freid
thirty one.

Speaker 3 (04:09):
He just got eight years, but it was the Yankees.
But that's all the big players are going to be
involved with Kyle Tucker. That's what's going to drive him
over the years.

Speaker 2 (04:16):
Yeah, Yeah, and he's absolutely worth it and showed his
arm off this weekend and more importantly, showed off his bat.

Speaker 3 (04:23):
Yeah, there's just two different markets and free agency. It's
the Yankees, Dodgers, Mets, and then it's everyone else. If
the tier one isn't involved, then you end up like
Alex Bregman. It gets dragged out and stuff like that.

Speaker 2 (04:34):
Maybe also it could be down to about three or
four players per year, and that's about it too, you know,
I mean this thought of ten to fifteen players is
getting these seven, eight, nine year now, if you have
a phenom in your organization, I all use Bobby Wood
Junior's example from Kansas City, it's smart to buy out
arbitration years. It's smart to put your money bey on
a guy that you think is going to ultimately be
a megastar for your team. And so if you're him,

(04:57):
if you or Mike Trott with the Angels, if you're
you know, even Julio Rodriguez in Seattle, right, I mean,
you you're gonna spend that kind of money because he's
gonna be a guy that you can build your franchise around.
Even that doesn't necessarily work one hundred percent of the time, either,
that's true. But I'll have a buyout take for you
coming up at eleven thirty. Ooh to wait. Way, we
should tell the audience that today is reversed to tell

(05:19):
the truth. Ross is gonna handle to tell the truth,
and I'm gonna handle believe it or not. M hmmm.
I like this deal. I think, yeah, because you know
what it is, and we've talked about this before. To
tell the Truth is a fun segment, but it's just
hard to come up with things every single week. So
once in a while we we we flip things around
and and if Jonathan wants to get involved, maybe in
a couple of weeks we'll let him do to tell

(05:41):
the truth oo okaya. Like, for instance, it would be
he'd say Western Kentucky and SFA are the harvards of
the mid South. Uh huh.

Speaker 3 (05:50):
We would say that's clearly not the truth. So but
that doesn't mean he doesn't believe it, Matt. I mean,
you have crackpot takes. But if you believe him, you
believe that's to tell the truth, that's true. He's gonna believing. Yeah,
engagement rings are too expensive, Yeah he believes that.

Speaker 2 (06:07):
Hey, I don't believe you can put enough for interesting
in your salad. Honey, I believe that I'm telling you
the truth that.

Speaker 3 (06:14):
You said you were taking a back seat on the
on the salad jokes.

Speaker 2 (06:17):
Yeah, because she likes my music. Now, so oa oh,
here to go, here it comes, Rossie. We have a
lot to get to today. For it being a July,
early late June, early July, there's kind a few a
lot of things going on. First of all, the Astros
are kicking ass a five and one home stand against
two first place nationally legitimate, nationally pennant contending teams. Yes,

(06:42):
you got that. We have a Houston Rocky getting a
big fat new contract. Good for him. That. Frankly, it
cracks me up that people, and it is the truth.
I'm not saying they're not lying. But when someone is
getting twenty four and a half million dollars for the
next five years and they call that a reasonable, really
good sound offer, it makes me do a double take.
A bargain. Yeah, when did twenty four and a half

(07:06):
million dollars for anything per year become a bargain? Hmmmm? Well,
the salary cap is directly rated to revenues, so yeah,
but it doesn't mean me as somebody who makes twenty
four thousan dollars a year not real? Go, my gosh,
I know it is crazy. How often you do that?
Serious times? Say this is a question for all of

(07:26):
you listening, and certainly for Ross. How often do you
hear about a guy's contract and go, man, that's good value,
that's that's reasonable, that's you know, man, the rockets Like,
for instance, I would say it's universe. Why discussed the
rockets got Jabari Smith on the cheap? Because next year
he has to chance to make more He had a
chance to make more money. Make us some make a

(07:48):
twenty four and a half million dollars. I couldn't spend
twenty four and a half million dollars in my life,
like may drive. Well, if your wife got involved, he could,
you'd be fine. I mean, if I'm gonna go to
the Bezos wedding, maybe, but that'd be different issue for
a different times. That's true. How was that thing? By
the way, apparently it was a three day festival of nothing.

(08:08):
But how many million dollars was spend on that Bezels wedding?
I'm googling it says fifty million, fifty million dollars, which
is dropping a bucket to him. Yeah, pretty much. I
thought it'd be more. Yeah, fifty million. Get your weight up, Bezos.
So I have a six degrees of separation between Jeff

(08:29):
bezels Is wife and me. Okay, stay with this. So
Channel twenty six, way back in the day, Ross had
a reporter. Her name was Michelle Bonnard. Does that ring
a beltea? No, she was. She was Mark Berman's number
two or number three, you know, over there at Channel
twenty six. Then she left to go work at Fox

(08:51):
and already ESPN. She was on Sports Center for a while,
and she would tell me and she would come in
and do once a week radio appearances with us, and
she would tell me about her. One of her best
friends is a sports reporter in law, a news reporter
in Los Angeles. This best friend of hers is the

(09:13):
girl woman that Laurence Sanchez that married Jeff Bezos over
the weekend. Oh he married a news lady, Yes, sir,
a journalist if you will. That's cool. She's lucky, she
says her, really rich. And wonder with how the prenup
goes on that bad boy.

Speaker 3 (09:28):
I mean, yeah, you probably negotiate a few million a
year in the eventual event of divorce.

Speaker 2 (09:34):
Yeah, she's fifty five, he's sixty one. Hashtag life partners.
She's gonna hit sixty in Hill Upgrade. Wow, is that
an early gut feeling. Yeah, I'm go to write that
one down for tomorrow. Go ahead. You're predicting a Bezos
divorce in the next six years. Yeah, I mean you
just have to. It's a little bit different. Like when

(09:56):
they hit twenty five. DiCaprio gets out of there. That's
a battle. That's creepy. By the way, Well, you know,
let him live his life. Why doesn't he like somebody
plus thirty keeps him young? I don't know. I mean,
what kind of conversations are you having between women between
the ages of twenty two and twenty nine. He's talking
about their favorite SpongeBob episodes and what happened on Love

(10:19):
Island last night? Hey, probably you watching Love Island. No,
my daughter is, and she she cannot miss an episode.
You gotta start watching that. It's it's good. It's not
it's on every single day, is it not. No, it's
Wednesdays off and Saturdays off, so you've got time. So
you're telling me a show is on five days a week.

Speaker 4 (10:38):
So the schedule, so I think they started they started
the filming like a couple of days before. Yeah, and
then they start like so theays have like off on Wednesdays,
and then the audience will vote and then they'll be
like off filming wherever they're at. And then it's a
weird production schedule. No not watching.

Speaker 2 (10:55):
I'm gonna go ahead and pass on that because I
you know, I've already got my two stories on already.

Speaker 3 (10:58):
So when I say you live for dramas, so it
seems like but you're also your plate is full of drama.

Speaker 2 (11:04):
I got enough with Young and the Restless, and I
don't have time for this show and the Lifetime Movie Network.
That's enough from you, all right On the radio show
Astros five and one on the homestand we'll get to that.
Jabari Smith, have you heard the name of Malik Beasley.
You're gonna hear more of it. We'll discuss who he
is and what he's doing or maybe not doing, perhaps

(11:24):
hopefully for him, it's not doing ROSSI the WNBA announced
his expansion team list for the next foreseeable future. Is
the comments are coming back? Well, you'll tell you remember
last year the big phenomenon in college football the by
you excuse me. Yeah, I didn't make the phrase of

(11:45):
It was a phrase that was made by people at
b YU. Okay, all right, I didn't make it up.
Go look it up. It's I didn't serious. I didn't
make this up. It's not derogatory. He calls himself that,
or did explain, I'll explain why the b YU no
longer want is going to have the b YJ All right,

(12:10):
settling on that, and you get kicked off a campus
for having coffee worse? Okay with me on that? Uh.
And there are some rumors about Lebron James and Janis
than the Goompo we need to get to as well. Hmmm.
We have to tell the truth coming up today at
eleven thirty, and I believe it or not today at
one fifty, which is all things about d Wayne Lucas

(12:31):
passing away over the weekend. I believe at the age
of eighty nine, when you think of horse racing, you
think of d Wayne Lucas, never heard of them, and
Cigar and Ali Sheiba, and I think I'm pretty much
done after that. All right. It is ten thirteen of
The Matt Thomas Show with Ross seven one three two

(12:52):
one two five seven ninety seven one three two one
two five seven ninety five and one. The Astros this
week over the Cubs and the Phillies. Off day today,
and then they go to Denver to take on the
Rockies Tuesday, Wednesday, Thursday, then the Los Angeles Dodgers in
La att Chavezerne Friday, Saturday, and Sunday. I would tell

(13:14):
everybody to go to a game in Los Angeles. I
would just not do it wearing Astro's gear because you're
gonna get concussed the very least, and probably a skull
fracture at the very worst. Yeah, it maybe shiftich, hopefully
not in any vital organs. Yeah, you don't need a
kidney being replaced in the middle of the third inning
of it. Now.

Speaker 3 (13:34):
I think they might have a kidney replacement center though
in section one twenty three.

Speaker 2 (13:38):
That's true. You know, it's funny because you think about
the Dodgers and you think of Vin Scully, you think
of Don Drysdale, you think of Timulus Sordi, you think
of Fernando Aleenzuela, Steve Sachs, Joe Kelly, Joe Kelly. Yeah,
I guess you're getting to my point here. A classy,

(13:59):
dignified doesn't change old school stadium rich tradition. Dodger uniforms
don't change very often. Big History Classic one of the
most well branded franchises in sports. Forget about baseball ross.
But they're fans. Are hoodlums or celebrities? Yeah, one or

(14:26):
the other. We were. We were one rollway from who
was Jason Bateman when he was finishing up Ozark and
was just losing her mind over the fact that we
were one rollway and I said, she goes, I'm gonna
go talk to myself. You better go now. Oh wait,
And by the time she said she wanted to go,
he was already fifteen rows up. What do you mean
fifteen rows up? Leaving the stadium? Don't stick around, can't

(14:50):
make for nine innings, Come on, Bateman. So we were
there for an Astros Dodgers game, and that's when Bateman
said we're gonna win this game eight and was like
Astros beat him. So that was not terrible? All right?
Uh can I I'm gonna ask you this on a
daily basis. I think between now and October, as long
as things continue to go well. I was the Astros
fifteen thirty four. I mean, answer my question seriously. Mmm.

(15:13):
Now I actually answer in jokingly fashion. Good, good pitching
and a lot of one run ball. Look, and how
many shutouts did this squad put together? A lot? I
think the eight or nine is the last time I
checked the count. Mm hmm is that is that right? Well?

Speaker 3 (15:33):
Seventeen and seven and one run games, five and one
in extra innings, and just a lot of good pitching
and timely hitting, two out hitting, two outscoring. What is it, right,
two thirds of their runs or something like that with
in two outs?

Speaker 2 (15:47):
Yeah, especially since about May first. This team really kind
of took off mid May. Right, And it kind of
coincides with Jeremy Pine. You going to the leadoff spot?

Speaker 3 (15:57):
Uh, yeah, that's I mean, that's part of but it's
also I mean, he's just been really good no matter
where where he's gonna hit. Yeah, And I'm just kind
of looking around in baseball, Astros have by far the
best record.

Speaker 2 (16:07):
In one run games, and I'm just saying, I'm just saying,
I know what you're gonna say. Don't even say it.
We already we heard it last week, and we accept
what you said. We just don't want you to repeat it.
Turn sometimes, yeah, luck turn sometimes sometimes, Like just like
you said with Jeremy Payne, you and your friend Jake Myers,

(16:29):
just saying sometimes it doesn't, sometimes it does. Hopefully it doesn't.

Speaker 3 (16:33):
Hopefully Paint is back in the lineup. Let's see, it'll
be three days off. He's he missed two days Monday.

Speaker 2 (16:40):
He'll be back in the lineup tomorrow. Yeah, they actually locked.

Speaker 3 (16:43):
That gut feeling in. I'll alread you go ahead and locked
that in. He should be fine.

Speaker 2 (16:46):
I do get the Astros credit. You know they left
after the game yesterday. They get a whole day off
in Denver, summertime in Denver, Colorado. A kidding me? M
h baby, load up at the dispensary head of the ballpark. Well,
I'm gonna go to the casinos up in the middle
of the mountains. About that. Okay, not too far are
they now? It's forty minutes maybe, Okay. I went to Denver,

(17:09):
but I didn't get to make it to a casino. Yeah,
it's really the table. There's always five dollars tables. Nothing
you can do. Yeah, it's really good and always three
two by the way too, that's right. Three, two, five dollars.
I figured you'd like that. Let's go right now. I'm
telling you, if I didn't love Vegas so much, there
are so many other cities that you could go. Phoenix
is a great gambling town. Denver's a good gambling town.

(17:31):
I'm over the the soulless squeeze for every dollar Vegas unless,
like I said, I'm downtown only nowadays me too. It's
where I was about three weeks ago. Downtown's my jam
for sure. All right, So the Astros gonna win five
and one there off a game we mentioned Colorado. Now, look,
the Astros might lose a game in Colorado. Hopefully they don't,
but if they do, I don't need the Oh my god,

(17:54):
I can't believe this team can't win every gat can't
look Denver the Rocky suck. We understand that. But Colorado
has won some games.

Speaker 3 (18:03):
Nineteen they've looked nineteen and sixty five.

Speaker 2 (18:07):
I mean, they're not great. What's their record in their
last ten games? Yeh, le's take a lot. It's been improved.
They've been you know, they'll dropped eight to ten. They
beat somebody yesterday. Let's see who they beat yesterday. Let's
see if the team they beat was a decent They
beat the Brewers. Yeah, that's not bad after losing five
in a row. They've lost eight of their last ten.

(18:30):
The Milwaukee is ten above five hundred. So went like
they beat chop Liver, just saying I fully want them
to sweep, but don't kill them. If they don't lose
tone of three, and then we can probably have some
angry feelings. Okay, we'll see they'd be fine. Okay, so
we gotta get to that. I want to get to

(18:50):
the Rockets making some moves over the weekend, and we'll
get to that. Plus a rumor about uh Yana adent
to Goombo. We'll discuss that coming up as well. If
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(19:12):
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NIGHTTI ten thirty three on the Matt Thomas Show was Ross.

(19:35):
I'm up here in Dallas on a volleyball patrol giving
you all the insights of the US A national championship.
Good luck to the Moco Juniors, MAVs of the seventeen
year olds, is they go for a quest for national championship?
US is back in our Houston studios. Ross asking me
to send me text of photos of divorce as and
I can be happy to do that for you. Right,
that's not true, Matt, that's true. But if I mean,

(19:57):
if you send him a look at him, I mean
I know you will. Good. It is what it is,
Hey seven one three two point two five seven ninety
seven one three two one two five seven Anti ROSSI,
congratulations to Jabari Smith. Yes, team friendly deal? Is that
what I want to call it? Uh?

Speaker 3 (20:14):
Yeah, it's funny. It's a five year, one hundred and
twenty two million dollars deal. And we're talking about how
much of a bargain it is.

Speaker 2 (20:20):
Twenty four point five million dollars a year is a
bargain for someone, Yes, who good for him And we'll
talk about this in about an hour.

Speaker 3 (20:30):
He needs to make that next leap. He puts in
a lot of work. He's got a good work ethic.
I mean, just the way that he is now as
a thirty four to thirty five percent three point shooter,
twelve thirteen points per game, seven eight rebounds.

Speaker 2 (20:44):
That's a good player. It almost feels like to you
are not they don't have arbitration in the NBA, but
you're buying on the future. Does that make sense to you? Yeah,
I mean the Rockets didn't sign this deal not hoping,
and they're hoping that he outperforms this deal, or at
least that takes a step up, And maybe he will.
With Dylan Brook's gone, who knows who's to say? M M.

(21:05):
By the way, I can't I keep everybody I'm reading,
And again doesn't mean things can't change, because look, let
me tell you some Imadga doesn't care what anybody writes.
But it feels like Jabari's gonna be the one that's
gonna get that starting spot with Tara coming off the bench.
That's what everybody says, and I mean it can't change.
I think, you know, I mean we saw it last year.

Speaker 3 (21:21):
I think we can point two where it was Jabarians
and sometimes it was Tari And I think a lot
of that's going to depend on Tarry Easton's leg if
he's going to be playing back to backs and stuff
like that. But I mean he's six eleven, alprn ching
Goon six eleven and and Kevin Durant is six eleven.
So do you want to start three six eleven plus players.

Speaker 2 (21:41):
And would you say any of them are up or
in back to the basket guys, The answer would be
the no, on that they're more perimeter guys.

Speaker 3 (21:47):
Oh, I mean, well, yeah, Shingoon is. But I mean
you're talking about defensively anything.

Speaker 2 (21:52):
I mean, I think if Apple he's gonna take the
next step in his development, he's going to even be
better than he is back to the basket.

Speaker 3 (21:58):
I have a is this a Tuesday gut feeling? I
will just say, I don't think it's a foregone conclusion.
It's going to be Jabari Smith Jr. You know I
would I would buy into that.

Speaker 2 (22:11):
I mean, I'm not ready to pencil then in I
don't Again, I don't think he may have dok Is,
but it's probably Gonn. It's gotta be I would think
it'd be he and Himertari. I don't think it's it's
not gonna be Cam Whitmore. I don't think, even though
it's a natural fit positionally because of where Cam Whitmore
is as a shooting guard. If you're plugging, Kevin Durant
is my small forward and then yeah, you go with

(22:31):
with uh out or maybe I guess your power forward
in a in a one big lineup, I don't know,
especially if you don't know what your lineup is. Let
me give you a little SoundBite from Brian Windhorse this morning. Okay,
ESPN and everyone's kind of going okay, d traded Lebron.

(22:52):
Rumors are out there that he may not be long
for Los Angeles, La LA. But there was also something
else that Windhorse brought up this morning that I saw
a being that was very intriguing.

Speaker 5 (23:01):
Here it is the Bucks do not control their first
round pick for the next five years. They can't trade
any of them, and so I honestly do not see
how the Bucks are going to be a team that
at the end of the week, we look at and say,
that's a guaranteed top fourteen, and basically, you know, I
think Giannis has sort of let them off the hook
to a certain extent. He did not apply pressure this

(23:23):
offseason by sort of making it clear that he didn't
necessarily want to be there. He has just basically done
his regular off season, gone overseason, and then with his
family and the Bucks who have are really strapped from
suspending a masset perspective, I don't see as much they
could do. And a lot of teams that think that
they could trade for Giannis have been watching this very closely.

(23:46):
And the teams like San Antonio or Houston, or Miami
or New York, they specifically have stayed out of other
major transactions to and in Houston's case, saved assets in
the Durant trade to potentially chased Giannis. And the reason
they did that was because they got sure Giannis is
gonna look at the Bucks work this week and think
that's a team that compete either.

Speaker 2 (24:09):
Hmmm. Aren't gonna be real with you, Matt.

Speaker 3 (24:13):
I got extremely distracted by why did they start dropping
techno beats in the middle of.

Speaker 2 (24:17):
That, Because for those who don't know Brian Windhors was
actually dancing in a zoot suit as he was talking
about it. Sounds like why did they start a rave
in the middle of that? Maybe they want to go
to the Daisy Festival in Las Vegas. You never know
these things and Carnival. Yes, I thought you were gonna go.
Dockerman wants me to go with him to that. I'm like,

(24:38):
I'm not going to that. First I thought it already happened. Well,
he we've been planning it, but I just said, weren't
way too much.

Speaker 3 (24:44):
I told you it wasn't. It's like, it's like three,
I told you you weren't gonna go. I don't want
to go because the music sucks, first and foremost.

Speaker 2 (24:51):
Why you haven't? Do you know what the who's playing?
I don't know, but that's his jam. He loves that stuff,
and I don't. Let's get back to this stuff.

Speaker 3 (24:59):
You can get into it when, but when there's a
good crowd, it doesn't matter what's there. Certainly the way
they dressed there, you're gonna enjoy yourself.

Speaker 2 (25:04):
Matt. Yeah, bring some glasses though, Yeah, it wouldn't be
nearly as obvious. You want to get caught here Okay,
so let's let's go to the Rockets didn't give up
and hold on to Capitol. That means their first round picks,
I mean the other team's first round picks. I asked
you this last week. Are you sure you can't give
the Bucks four to five first round picks and be fine?

(25:26):
Are you absolutely sure about that? Do you think it's
only gonna cost you four first round picks? Okay?

Speaker 3 (25:33):
So Desmond Baine went for four first round picks plus
players Matthew.

Speaker 2 (25:40):
Desmond Baane. But they're all but the heat. The Magic
are also gave them the Grizzlies a terrible contract. That's true.
Pope is now paid twenty one and a half million
dollars a year, and that's a terrible deal. And that's
now owned by Memphis. I think they bought those draft picks. Yeah,
twenty million dollars a year.

Speaker 3 (26:01):
As you know, with the cap going on, it's not
a whole lot we're talking about how that's a bargain
for for Jabari Smith Jr.

Speaker 2 (26:06):
All right, I'm gonna make you the general manager for
the Houston Rockets right now. Okay, give me the deal
today that that's the Milwaukee's like that makes sense for.

Speaker 3 (26:17):
The Milwaukee would say yes to go, don't go overboard
sing a men in three picks, that's what they're gonna want.

Speaker 2 (26:26):
You can't have a man there's that's not that's telling
a possibility. A certain center four number ones, they don't
say yes. First of all, you need to throw more
in there, of course because of money. Okay, A certain center,
a certain backup name, come on, all right, Alpie cam

(26:49):
and four number ones they say, no, Tar Easan Alpe,
four number ones. I think I can't give you five
to one number ones. I don't think you.

Speaker 3 (26:59):
I don't even know if can legally do that. I've
never heard of anybody get more than four right the
go Bart Rudy Gobert was four and Desmond Bay was four.
Now Kevin Durant, of course was only one or what one?
In five first seconds you're out a second round?

Speaker 2 (27:15):
Pick one? Yeah, yeah, you're giving the ones up that
the other like Phoenix, you still own Phoenix, the Phoenix one?
You want that one because they're gonna suck. Do you
own a Brooklyn one? At some point? I think they
still have a Brooklyn swap and maybe I can't. Yeah, yeah,
Brooklyn swap that's exactly right. That's a lot rows you

(27:37):
want a two time MVP in his prime. Matt, I
don't know, but he shoots thirty from three. He shoot
sixty percent from the field.

Speaker 3 (27:46):
I mean, he just won twenty something one a couple
he he just that. Just this year he averaged thirty points.
I'll go pull it up. It's like eleven rebounds and
seven assists or something like that. Okay, he shoot sixty
percent from the field.

Speaker 2 (28:01):
That's the thing. That's how crazy good he is. Everyone
knows he's not taking a three point I always say
that all the time. I tell you that all the time.

Speaker 3 (28:09):
Third thirty points, twelve rebounds and six and a half
assists and world class defense. Hello, his first team All
NBA defense.

Speaker 2 (28:28):
All Right, I don't think it's Houston, though I think
New York's gonna do whatever they can.

Speaker 3 (28:35):
I don't think it's Houston. And I don't think m
In Thompson is untouchable for you, honest, I just don't.

Speaker 2 (28:41):
Okay, you and I will disagree on that, and I
will not budge from that. Okay. I know that the
talent levels are different.

Speaker 3 (28:49):
I know, but I'm just telling you, men, Thompson's not
gonna have as good a careers as Johannis and all
like lude.

Speaker 2 (28:53):
I mean, that's just a fact. Two time MVP. Yeah,
but you're not training a model of a mountel you
have him and other players. I mean it would be
you know, if you did it, if you did one
for one, then then you could you could definitely swallow that.
But you're looking for multiple live human beings and multiple
draft picks and the fact that a man is on
a rookie deal. Still, yeah, yeah, all right, ten forty

(29:15):
two on Sports Talk seven ninety. It is interesting, however,
that the Jana stuff won't go away. There are young
Lebron rumors about him maybe being traded because he stop
he picks up his option for a contract maxture to
stay with the Los Angeles Lakers, and the Lakers are like, yeah,
we don't really want to tell you the idea. We're

(29:36):
just the world's telling you. Rich Paul's agent is telling you, well,
he goes somewhere else before his careers had done, because
I mean, are the Lakers any closer even with Luca.
I mean, I think there's a lot of uncertainty in
Los Angeles right now, which is strange because I think
I'm I'm not I'm certainly going to be watching what
they do. Yeah, they're not contenders now, I still got

(29:58):
them on fraud alert. And I still don't think he's
going somewhere else. I mean, at some point, do you mean,
are you gonna just be in uh what do they
call it? A carbon backers? You're going from place to
place to place. M that's it's happening. It's kind of
what he's been doing his entire career. Vin Durant hop
around here. Yeah, Chris Paul's hopping around. Kevin Durant' hopping around.
He's a Houston rocket, Kevin Durant. Yeah, but we believe

(30:20):
in we we know we uh, we believe in certain hopping.
Especially it's the Southeast Texan. Yeah, when it's here, it's
all good. It is all good. Yeah.

Speaker 3 (30:28):
I want to hear from the people that have been
talking about how, yeah, how Kevin Durant's ring chaser and
he sucks.

Speaker 2 (30:33):
He comes to the easton rockets. Oh yeah, Kevin Durant,
greatest of all time. Well, I want to be consistent.
He was going for a ring, but I didn't believe
him for it. He was also the best player on
those teams. He won both finals MVPs. You're supposed to go, go,
You're supposed to go look for a ring. That's it.
That's the whole point. Yeah, Hey, you can't build up
this ring culture and it's all about rings, rings, rings, rings, rings,

(30:55):
and then when somebody tries and goes to get a ring,
you get mad at him. The NBA discourse is the worst.
Oh yeah, the hypocrisy week to week with among the
NBA repungdits is in an all time high ten forty
four on Sports Talk seven ninety seven one three two
one two five seven ninety seven one three two one
two five seven ninety baton Ross with you on a Monday.

(31:18):
Good morning, Houston, Texas. We are with you today until
two o'clock. Don't be a stranger, we know you ten
o'clockers are late risers or just don't like us. Maybe
maybe Ross were more affable between eleven thirty and two. Yeah,
it's it takes me a couple hours a week up
mm hmm seven one three two one two five seven
ninety seven one three two one two five seven nine

(31:39):
eighty so and maybe I've been the leader of this Ross,
and I don't mean to be, but I think I've
said on probably a half dozen occasions there's no chance,
no way, no how the Astros are resigning from Ravaldez.
I would agree with that still, and I can't back
off because there have been no whispers of any sort

(32:00):
of comment, conversations or any I mean, zilch, even when
Dana asked about it, even when uh Frobbers asked about it,
I like, no, we haven't said anything. Bawwie. We'll give
you a little A small update on Jeremy Pania from
Dana Brown coming up at the top of the next
hour because there are some interesting comments from Dana from

(32:23):
yesterday's Sunday appearents on Astros Radio. But Ross, all he
does is win. He hasn't. When's the last time that
he I mean, he had the five walk game against
Oakland against the Athletics, but he still went terrible. He
just walked a lot of folks. All he does his
win now for the Astros. I think the time out
before wait, uh, how many walks did he have? I

(32:45):
think he had four walks a couple of starts ago,
but he had nine walks in the previous two starts,
not not including yesterday. Okay, yeah, so, I mean even then,
it's crazy how good he can be. And and then
he had the didn't he have the complete game? And
he was like at eighty something pitches or something like that.

(33:05):
He's on the season four and three. Actually that's a
road record, his overall four two seventy two ERA. You
have two guys in the top five of the so young.
It feels like his last five starts seven innings, five
six seven six. Number of earned runs in those last

(33:28):
five games five games, six runs. Is that good? It's
really good.

Speaker 3 (33:37):
Yeah, he's amazing, he's incredible. He's making a good statement
for himself. He's gonna hit free agency and he's gonna
get a lot of money.

Speaker 2 (33:45):
But man, you ain't here and squat about him staying
in Houston. No, I don't think so.

Speaker 3 (33:51):
And what do we always say, Matt, especially if you
don't have anything on of spring training, it ain't happening.

Speaker 2 (33:56):
It ain't happening. So what all that he's doing at
this point is building his resume. The question is going
to be if you're another team, let's it doesn't really
matter what team you are. Do you think at all,
why you don't why the Astros didn't even possibly offer something,

(34:17):
or do you say, well, the Astro's history and representation
uh has been has given out the notion that we
don't sign guys a super long term deals. I've never
heard from perveld this say I'm looking for a seven
or eight year deal. Maybe you don't have to say it.
You mean, does the heavy little I'm sure he Yeah,
I'm sure he wants something like that. He wants to
at the market and get as much as possible. Before

(34:38):
spring training last year, we kept hearing Dana Brown like, yeah,
we're we're putting together an offer for for Bregman. There's
no offer yet, there's no other there was no real
substantive offer or for that matter, Yeah, so is missus
standard operating procedure and Jim Crane's been doing this for
a long time and it keeps working. Yeah. Has he

(35:00):
really been burned yet by anybody?

Speaker 3 (35:03):
I would say before Tommy John from Garrett Cole, that
was probably the best deal that was being lived up to.

Speaker 2 (35:10):
Did he win he won a cy Young with the
Yankees or I think the Yankees up until the Tommy
John were upset about the money that we're spending on it. No, yeah,
he won. I mean he won a cy Young Award
with the Charlie Morton has been able to be productive,
but it wasn't like the Life win. The Astros kept
winning despite Charlie Morton not being here, you know what
I mean it was. There hasn't been one that has
like hitching the belly go man. I can't like if

(35:32):
George Springer was a forty one to twenty guy with
Toronto year in and year that that would hurt right
as much as you love Jake Myers, you had your son, right,
do love Jake Myers?

Speaker 3 (35:43):
Yeah, let's say I just Garrett Coles finishes in the
cy Young as a Yankee fourth, second, ninth, and first,
and he won it, and then last year he had injury.

Speaker 2 (35:52):
In this year he's got Tommy John speaking of center fielders,
and I won't be here for you on Thursday. If
I just don't get it, can I do it early?
I just don't get Yes. Why is Cedric Mullins and
the Astros being tied together from Bob Nightingale left handed
bat outfield? Help? You know what his batting averages? I don't.

(36:15):
Is he having a bad year? Career, he's much better, right,
I know he's having a down year. His OPS is
seven oh seven. Okay, that was as of yesterday. I
didn't see it. What how he did yesterday? Before yesterday,
I should say, I mean, oh, he's been a negative
player this year. I didn't. I knew he was having
a down year at the play, but I didn't know.

(36:35):
Is this bad? Can I just ask you? I just
don't get it. Why? Okay, what are you hoping that
maybe a changing uniform, going from a bad team to
a good team could help me? That could possibly be
the case. I mean, the Astros went and got Yusai Kakuchi.
He sucked in Toronto. It was great for the Astros
last year. It's not going to happen. But they do
it better with with pitchers than position players. Yeah. Uh,

(36:56):
let's see, he's got an OPS plus of one to one.
He's got he's got fourteen home runs. I think so
there's there is some there is some Yeah, some power
in that bad for sure. Jake Meyers ops plus one
fifteen and is not gonna cost you anything. Now, do
you want to put him in left field? Or send
Jake to left field? Because guys who's now playing left

(37:18):
field very much these days? Sports Harvey, Jose Al tuove,
you're greatest aster of all time. Uh well, Jeff bag
was retired.

Speaker 3 (37:25):
But when Jordon comes back from his hand injury, Okay,
I think you're gonna see a lot more because they've
been able to d h and put a Jose Al
two vat at second base.

Speaker 2 (37:36):
A lot yep. And obviously Brendan Rodgers on the injured
list does not get you have but you're down a
man at second base. Mm hmm. But I mean, what
in the last how much how much left field is
jose TV play in the last two weeks? Maybe once
a week maybe? And you also, I mean, I guess
was it was a couple of days missed by Paradus,
And it's been a couple of days missed by by

(37:58):
Jeremy Pine as well. So you've had some infield injuries
right right, right, But it just feels like to me
and I will, I will fall on the sword on
this this he's playing way more second bits than I
ever thought he was going to play. I think it's
some injury related mostly personally probably, So all right, first
hour of the books here on the Matt Thomas Show
with Ross, if you'd like to chime in seven one
three two one two five seven NINTI, when I tell

(38:19):
you the Astros, you don't hear a peep about trying
to keep from burbldez. What is your reaction on that?
My reaction has been very simple, no surprise whatsoever, because
we kind of knew this all along. But I'm not.
But you guys are the fans. You guys are the
ones that go to see him pitch every fifth day.
Seven one three two one two five seven ninety seven

(38:42):
one three two one two five seven ninety. Also coming
up in the next half hour, we have an NBA
player in some serious trouble with perhaps betting on the sport.
We have a one of the most interesting stories in
college football last year leaving his campus. We also have
a major trade in the NFL to get to and

(39:04):
of course your Astros are five and one and the
Rockets keep a big man around for a while. All
that coming up between now and two o'clock in one
half hour, we have Ross's edition of To Tell the
Truth seven one three two one two five seven ninety.
The Astro Arms have done it. The Bats have done

(39:26):
just enough. And your stros own comfortably the second best
record in the American League and comfortably own a lead
of six and a half games in the American League. West,
Good evening, good morning, good night, and everywhere you may be. Rossie,

(39:46):
how the hell are you? Good morning to you. I'm
having a great morning, mat How are you good? Good?
Are you in down in Britain? Now now I wish
now we should peel the curtain back. I was going
to take these games off, but I felt like I
needed to work with you. Oh thank god, it was important.
We're a little lean on backup staff these days. Yeah,
you were trying to make me host with Clinton. I mean,

(40:08):
come on, man, I mean Clinton's off for a week.
I said, you know what, with my daughter playing in
a national tournament and she doesn't play until the evening time,
I figured, you know what, I need to work. I could.
I could sit on my couch in my room.

Speaker 3 (40:20):
No, you don't have to lie. You already told us
the real reason last week. You know, you didn't want
to get dragged to matches where your daughter wasn't involved.

Speaker 2 (40:29):
That might be true, but nobody will hear that, at
least here in Dallas.

Speaker 3 (40:33):
That's good they're not listening on the iHeartRadio app, so
you can certainly drag them through the bud.

Speaker 2 (40:39):
I'm not dragging, I'm just want five miles away. I'm
just saying what you said. I didn't say it, you
said it. Thank you for once again bringing that up,
and that again is fair. I'm glad. So yes, I'm
going to work with you today through Wednesday. At the Thursdays,
she's got a series of day games, so I won't
be able to be with you Thursday, and then Friday

(41:01):
we're gonna all celebrate the Fourth of July. But then
Saturday Ross on July fifth, I will recoup and be
able to work Astros on deck. Because they call you
mister Saturday. On Astro's broadcaster, they do call you mister
Saturday Night. Yes, how was your Saturday? By the way,
you did these Saturday Lance pick colors post game?

Speaker 3 (41:19):
Yes, Uh, Honestly, I thought with it being a night
game and it being a huge blowout, there wouldn't be
many calls, but we took a fair amount.

Speaker 2 (41:29):
We started fifteen, so ye had an hour ahead of
you there.

Speaker 3 (41:32):
Yeah, we had the pregamers calling in uh oh, having
a couple before they went out, and that's okay. Only
one guy complained about Lance Pa Colors staying in there
too long. That's fine, And then they have to fire
Joe's pot because of that, correct, Yeah, of course, No,
nobody's called for him to be fire fired. Actually, most
people were pretty reasonable. I mean, when you're winning all

(41:53):
these games like they are, and you're you know what,
it's sixteen, I guess what is it? Games above five hundred.
At this point, even the complaining takes a back seat.
Even after a twelve to three loss where Kyle Tucker
caves your face in with four hits and three runs
a bat it in.

Speaker 2 (42:07):
Yeah, I think I had the over under on three
hits or less for Kyle the Tucker series, and he
got all of in one game.

Speaker 3 (42:14):
We will we will revisit that during gut feelings, I
believe I had the over three.

Speaker 2 (42:19):
I went against you. Yeah, that was probably the smart call,
it was. It ended up being the right call, Matt,
But well, you know it is the reality is you
should only help me. I should only go with my
bets when I give you over under totals, because that's
knows me for mm hmm. Now you are the over
under King ninety one average for Kyle Tucker this year,

(42:40):
and I feel like, and I don't want to give
up on this too soon, but I've already put some
money away for her Botchi girl lunch because I feel
like he's going to get eight years. I'm thinking, you're right,
you know from er Valdez the Yeah, the only way
he doesn't get eight years is because of his age.
That's the only thing that's perhamps holding him back. But

(43:01):
I don't think it's gonna be enough. He's twenty eight, right, Yeah,
but if you pay eight years, you're paying a lot
of money for a thirty six year old, and maybe
that's not the best thing to do.

Speaker 3 (43:09):
Max Reid thirty one, he just got eight years, but
it was the Yankees. But that's all the big players
are going to be involved with Kyle Tucker. That's what's
going to drive him over the years.

Speaker 2 (43:17):
Yeah, Yeah, and he's absolutely worth it and showed his
arm off this weekend and more importantly showed off his bat.

Speaker 3 (43:24):
Yeah, there's just two different markets and free agency. It's
the Yankees, Dodgers, Mets, and then it's everyone else. If
the Tier one isn't involved, then you end up like
Alex Bregman, it gets dragged out and stuff like that.

Speaker 2 (43:35):
Maybe also it could be down to about three or
four players per year, and that's about it too, you know,
I mean this thought of ten to fifteen players getting
these seven eight, nine year now, if you have a
phenom in your organization, all use Bobby wood Junior's example
from Kansas City. It's smart to buy out arbitration years.
It's smart to put your money by on a guy
that you think is going to ultimately be a megastar

(43:56):
for your team. And so if you're him, if you
or Mike Trot with the Angels, if you're you know,
even Julio Roriguez in Seattle, right, I mean you you're
gonna spend that kind of money because he's going to
be a guy that you can build your franchise around.
Even that doesn't necessarily work one hundred percent of the
time either, that's true. But I'll have a buyout take
for you coming up at eleven thirty ooh to wait. Way,

(44:17):
we should tell the audience that today is reversed to
tell the truth. Ross is going to handle to tell
the truth, and I'm gonna handle, believe it or not.
M hmmm. I like this deal. I think, yeah, because
you know what it is, and we've talked about this before.
To tell the Truth is a fun segment, but it's
just hard to come up with things every single week.
So once in a while we uh, we flip things
around and and if Jonathan wants to get involved, maybe

(44:40):
in a couple of weeks, we'll let him do to
tell the truth ooh okay, okay, Like for instance, he
would be he'd say Western Kentucky and SFA are the
harvards of the mid South. Uh huh.

Speaker 3 (44:51):
We would say that's clearly not the truth. So but
that doesn't mean he doesn't believe it, Matt. I mean,
you have crackpot takes. But if you believe him, you
believe that's to tell the truth, that's true. He's gonna
engagement rings are too expensive.

Speaker 2 (45:03):
Yeah, he believes that. Hey, I don't believe you can
put enough for intersting in your salad. Honey. I believe
that I'm telling you the truth that.

Speaker 3 (45:15):
You said you were taking a backseat on the on
the salad jokes.

Speaker 2 (45:18):
Yeah, because she likes my music now, so okay, oh
here to gos here it comes, Rossie. We have a
lot to get to today. For it being a July,
early late June early July, there's kind of a few
a lot of things going on. First of all, the
Astros are kicking ass a five and one home stand
against two first place nationally legitimate, nationally pennant contending teams. Yes,

(45:43):
you got that. We have a Houston Rocky getting a
big fat new contract. Good for him.

Speaker 6 (45:49):
That.

Speaker 2 (45:49):
Frankly, it cracks me up that people, and it is
the truth. I'm not saying they're not lying, but when
someone is getting twenty four and a half million dollars
for the next five years and they call that a
reason really good sound offer, it makes me do a
double take. A bargain. Yeah, when did twenty four and
a half million dollars for anything per year become a bargain? Hmmmm? Well,

(46:13):
the salary cap is directly rated to revenues, so yeah,
but it doesn't mean me as somebody who makes twenty
four thou dollars a year not real. Go my gosh,
I know it is crazy. How often you do that?
Serious time, I said, this is a question for all
of you listening, and certainly for Ross. How often do
you hear about a guy's contract and go, man, that's

(46:35):
good value. That's that's reasonable, that's you know, man, the rockets, like,
for instance, I would say it's a university discussed. The
Rockets got Jabari Smith on the cheap because next year
he has to chance to make more. He had a
chance to make more money. Make us, so make it
twenty four and a half million dollars. I couldn't spend
twenty four and a half million dollars in my life
if like, if I drive, well, if your wife got involved,

(46:57):
he could, you'd be fine. I mean, if I'm gonna
go to the Bezos, what a maybe, But that'd be
a different issue for a different time. That's true. How
was that thing? By the way, apparently it was a
three day festival of nothing. But how many million dollars
was spend on that Bezels wedding? I'm googling. It says
fifty million, fifty million dollars, which is dropping a bucket
to him. Yeah, pretty much. I thought it'd be more. Yeah,

(47:22):
fifty million. Get your weight up, Bezos. So I have
a six degrees of separation between Jeff Bezos's wife and me. Okay,
stay with this. So Channel twenty six way back in
the day, Ross had a reporter. Her name was Michelle Bonnard.

(47:42):
Does that ring a beltea? No, she was. She was
Mark Berman's number two or number three, you know, over
there at Channel twenty six. Then she left to go
work at Fox and already ESPN. She was on Sports
Center for a while, and she would tell me, and
she would come in and do once a week radio
appearances with us, and she would tell me about her.

(48:04):
One of her best friends is a sports reporter in law,
a news reporter in Los Angeles. This best friend of
hers is the woman that Laurence Sanchez that married Jeff
Bezos over the weekend. Oh he married a news lady, Yes, sir,
a journalist if you will. That's cool. She's lucky, she

(48:26):
tells her, really rich. I wonder with how the prenup
goes on that bad boy.

Speaker 3 (48:29):
I mean, yeah, you probably negotiate a few million a
year in the in the eventual event of divorce.

Speaker 2 (48:35):
Yeah, she's fifty five, he's sixty one. Hashtag life Partners,
She's gonna hit sixty in hill Upgrade. Wow, is that
an early gut feeling. Yeah, I'm gonna write that one
down for tomorrow. Go ahead.

Speaker 3 (48:51):
You're predicting a Bezos divorce in the next six years. Yeah,
I mean you just have to. It's a little bit different.
Like when they hit twenty five, DiCaprio gets out of it.
That's a battle that's creepy. By the way, Well, you know,
let him live his life. Why doesn't he like somebody
plus thirty keeps him young?

Speaker 2 (49:07):
I don't know. I mean, what kind of conversations are
you having between women between the ages of twenty two
and twenty nine. He's talking about their favorite SpongeBob episodes
and what happened on Love Island last night? Hey, probably
you watching Love Island. No, my daughter is, and she
she cannot miss an episode. You gotta start watching that.

(49:29):
It's it's good. It's not it's on every single day,
is it not. No, it's Wednesdays off and Saturdays off.
So you've got time. So you're telling me a show
is on five days a week. So the schedule.

Speaker 4 (49:40):
So I think they started they started the filming like
a couple of days before. Yeah, and then they start
like so days to have like off on Wednesdays, and
then the audience will vote and then they'll be like
off filming wherever they're at, and then it's a weird
production schedule.

Speaker 2 (49:54):
No not watching. I'm gonna go ahead and pass on
that because you know, I've already got my two stories.

Speaker 3 (49:59):
I'm already say you live for drama, so it seems
like it all, but you're also your plate is full
of drama.

Speaker 2 (50:05):
I got enough with Young and the Restless, and I
don't have time for those shows and the Lifetime Movie Network.
That's enough from you, all right on the radio show
Astros five and one on the homestand we'll get to that.
Jabari Smith, have you heard the name of Malik Beasley.
You're gonna hear more of it. We'll discuss who he
is and what he's doing or maybe not doing, perhaps

(50:25):
hopefully for him, it's not doing. H ROSSI. The WNBA
announced his expansion team list for the next foreseeable future.
The comments are coming back. Well, you'll tell you remember
last year, the big phenomenon in college football the by
j excuse me, yeah, I didn't make the phrase of

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It was a phrase that was made by people at
b YU. Okay, I didn't make it up. Go look
it up. It I didn't. Seriously, I didn't make this up.
It's not derogatory he calls himself that or did that's txplain,
I'll explain why the b Yu no longer want is
going to have the by you? All right?

Speaker 3 (51:11):
Settling on that, and you get kicked off a campus
for having coffee worse?

Speaker 2 (51:16):
Okay with me on that? Uh. And there are some
rumors about Lebron James and Janis thent the Goompo we
need to get to as well. Hmmm. We have to
tell the truth coming up today at eleven thirty, and
I believe it or not today at one fifty, which
is all things about d Wayne Lucas passing away over
the weekend. I believe at the age of eighty nine,

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when you think of horse racing, you think of d
Wayne Lucas. Never heard of them, and Cigar and Ali
Sheiba and I think I'm pretty much done after that,
all right. It is ten thirteen of The Matt Thomas
Show with Ross seven one three two one two five
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ninety seven, ninety five and one the Astros this week
over the Cubs and the Phillies off day today and
then they go to Denver to take on the Rockies Tuesday, Wednesday, Thursday,
then the Los Angeles Dodgers in Elio att Chavezarene Friday, Saturday,
and Sunday. I would tell everybody to go to a

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game in Los Angeles. I would just not do it
wearing Astros gear because you're gonna get concussed the very least,
and probably a skull fracture at the very worst. Yeah,
maybe shift which hopefully not in any vital organs. Yeah,
you don't need a kidney being replaced in the middle
of the third inning of it.

Speaker 1 (52:36):
Now.

Speaker 2 (52:38):
I think they might have a kidney replacement center though
in section one twenty three. That's true. You know, it's
funny because you think about the Dodgers and you think
of Vin Scully, you think of Don Drysdale, you think
of Timulus Sordi, you think of Fernando Velenzuela, Steve Sachs,
Joe Kelly, Joe Kelly. Yeah, I guess you're getting to
my point here. A classy, dignified doesn't change old school

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stadium rich tradition. Dodger uniforms don't change very often. Big
History Classic, one of the most well branded franchises in sports.
Forget about baseball Ross. But they're fans. Are hoodlums or celebrities? Yeah,

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one or the other.

Speaker 6 (53:31):
We were.

Speaker 2 (53:32):
We were one roll away from who was Jason Bateman
when he was finishing up Ozark and was just losing
her mind over the fact that we were one rollway
and I said, she goes, I'm gonna go talk to myself.
You better go now. Oh wait, And by the time
she said she wanted to go, he was already fifteen
rows up. What do you mean fifteen rows up leaving
the stadium? Oh, don't stick around, can't make for nine innings,

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Come on, Bateman. So we were there for an Astros
Dodgers game, and that's when Bateman said we're gonna win.
This was like the Astros beat him. So that was
not terrible? All right? Uh can I I'm gonna ask
you this on a daily basis. I think between now
and October, as long as things continue to go well.
I was the Astros fifteen thirty four? I mean, answer
my question seriously? Ummm Now I actually answer in jokingly fashion.

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Good good pitching and a lot of one run ball. Look,
and how many shutouts did this squad putting together? A lot?
I think the eight or nine is the last time
I checked the count? Mm hmm is that is that right?

Speaker 3 (54:37):
Well, seventeen and seven and one run games, five and
one in extra innings, and just a lot of good
pitching and timely hitting, two out hitting, two outscoring. What
is it right, two thirds of their runs or something
like that in two outs.

Speaker 2 (54:51):
Yeah, especially since about May first. This team really kind
of took off mid May. Right, And it kind of
coincides with Jeremy Pine going to the leadoff spot. Uh, yeah,
that's I mean, that's part of it.

Speaker 3 (55:04):
It's also I mean, he's just been really good no
matter where where he's gonna hit. Yeah, And I'm just
kind of looking around in baseball, Astros have by far
the best record in.

Speaker 2 (55:11):
One run games, and I'm just saying, I'm just saying,
I know what you're gonna say. Don't even say it.
We already we heard it last week, and we accept
what you said. We just don't want you to repeat it.
Turn sometimes, yea luck turn sometimes sometimes, like just like
you said with Jeremy Payne, you and your friend Jake Myers,

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just saying sometimes it doesn't, sometimes it does, Hopefully it doesn't.

Speaker 3 (55:37):
Hopefully paint is back in the lineup. Let's see, it'll
be three days off. He's he missed two days Monday.
He'll be back in the lineup tomorrow.

Speaker 2 (55:46):
Yeah, they actually locked that gut feeling in. I'll area
you go ahead and locked that in. He should be fine.
I do give the Astros credit. You know they left
after the game yesterday. They get a whole day off
in Denver, summertime in Denver, Colorado. I'm kidding me. Mm hm, baby,
load up at the dispensary head of the ballpark. Well,
I'm gonna go to the casinos up in the middle

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of the mountains about okay, not too far are they now?
It's forty minutes maybe Okay. I went to Denver, but
I didn't get to make it to a casino. Yeah,
it's really the table. There's always five dollars tables. Nothing
you can do. Yeah, it's really good and always three
two by the way, two, that's right, three two, five dollars.
I figured you'd like that. Let's go right now. I'm

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telling you, if I didn't love Vegas so much, there
are so many other cities that you could go. Phoenix
is a great gambling town. Denver's a good gambling town.

Speaker 3 (56:35):
I'm over the the soulless squeeze for every dollar Vegas unless,
like I said, I'm downtown only nowadays me too.

Speaker 2 (56:42):
That's where it was about three weeks ago. Downtown to
my jam for sure. All Right, So the Astros gonna
win five and one there off again, we mentioned Colorado. Now, look,
the Astros might lose a game in Colorado. Hopefully they don't,
but if they do, I don't need the Oh my god,
I can't believe this team can't win ever, get can't
look Denver. The Rockies suck. We understand that. But Colorado

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has won some games. Nineteen they've looked nineteen and sixty five.
I mean, they're not great. What's their record in the
last ten games. Yea, let's take a look. It's been improved,
they've been ye know, they'll dropped eight to ten. They
beat somebody yesterday. Let's see who they beat yesterday. Let's
see if the team they beat was a decent They

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beat the Brewers in Milwaukee. Yeah, that's not bad. After
losing five in a row, they've lost eight of their
last ten. The Milwaukee is ten above five hundred. So
went like they beat Chop Liver just saying I fully
want them to sweep, but don't kill them. If they don't.
There's tone of three, and then we can probably have

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some angry feelings. Okay, we'll see they'd be fine. Uh okay,
So we gotta get to that. I want to get
to the rockets making some moves over the weekend, and
we'll get to that. Plus a rumor about uh janis
adent the Goombo. We'll discuss that coming up as well.

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congratulations to Jabari Smith. Yes, team friendly deal? Is that
what I want to call it?

Speaker 7 (59:17):
Uh?

Speaker 3 (59:18):
Yeah, it's funny. It's a five year, one hundred and
twenty two million dollars deal. And we're talking about how
much of a bargain it is. Twenty four point five
million dollars a year is a bargain for someone, yes,
who good for him? And we'll talk about this in
about an hour. He needs to make that next leap.
He puts in a lot of work. He's got a

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good work ethic, I mean just the way that he
is now as a thirty four to thirty five percent
three point shooter, twelve thirteen points per game, seven eight rebounds.

Speaker 2 (59:49):
That's a good player. It almost feels like to you
are not they don't have arbitration in the NBA, but
you're buying on the future. Does that make sense to you? Yeah,
I mean the Rockets didn't sign this deal hoping, and
they're hoping that he outperforms this deal, or at least
that takes a step up, And maybe he will. With
Dylan Brook's gone, who knows. Who's to say? Mm hmm.

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By the way, I can't I keep everybody I'm reading,
and again doesn't mean things can't change, because look, let
me tell you some Imadga doesn't care what anybody writes.
But it feels like Jabari iss gonna be the one
that's gonna get that starting spot with Tari coming off
the bench. That's what everybody says. And I mean it
can't change. I think, you know, I mean we saw
it last year.

Speaker 3 (01:00:25):
I think we get point two where it was Jabarians
and sometimes it was Tari, and I think a lot
of that's going to depend on Tary Easton's leg if
he's going to be playing back to backs and stuff
like that. But I mean he's six eleven, alpry Ching
Goon six eleven and and Kevin Durant is six eleven.
So do you want to start three six eleven plus players.

Speaker 2 (01:00:45):
And would you say any of them are up or
in back to the basket guys, The answer would be
the no. On that they're more perimeter guys. Oh, I mean, well, yeah,
Shin gooon is, But I mean you're talking about defensively anything.
I mean, I think if Appy's gonna take the next
step in his development, he's gonna even be better than
he is back to the basket. I I have a

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is this a Tuesday gut feeling?

Speaker 3 (01:01:08):
I will just say I don't think it's a foregone
conclusion it's going to be Jabari Smith Junr.

Speaker 2 (01:01:14):
You know, I would I would buy into that. I mean,
I'm not ready to pencil that in. I don't Again,
I don't think he may have dok Is, but it's
probably not gonna be it's gonna be I would think
it'd be he and Himertari. I don't think it's it's
not gonna be Cam Whitmore, I don't think, even though
it's a natural fit positionally because of where Cam Whitmore
is as a shooting guard. If you're plugging, Kevin Durant
is my small forward and then yeah, you go with

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with uh out or maybe I guess your power forward
in a in a one big lineup, I don't know,
especially if you don't know what your lineup is. Let
me give you a little SoundBite from Brian Windhorse this morning. Okay, ESPN,
and everyone's kind of going, okay, traded Lebron. Rumors are

(01:01:57):
out there that he may not be long for Los Angeles,
La LA. But there was also something else that Windhorse
brought up this morning and I saw on ESPN that
was very intriguing.

Speaker 5 (01:02:05):
Here it is the Bucks do not control their first
round pick for the next five years. They can't trade
any of them, and so I honestly do not see
how the Bucks are going to be a team that
at the end of the week we look at and say,
that's a guaranteed top fourteen. And basically, you know, I
think Jannis has sort.

Speaker 2 (01:02:22):
Of let them off the hook to a certain extent.

Speaker 5 (01:02:25):
He did not apply pressure this offseason by sort of
making it clear that he didn't necessarily want to be there.
He has just basically done his regular off season, gone overseason,
and then with his family and the Bucks, who are
really strapped from suspending an asset perspective, I don't see
as much they could do, and a lot of teams

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that think that they could trade for Giannis have been
watching this very closely. And the teams like San Antonio
or Houston, or Miami or New York, they specifically have
stayed out of other major transactions to and in Houston's case,
saved assets in the Durant trade to potentially chase Giannis.
And the reason they did that was because they got

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sure Giannis is going to look at the Bucks work
this week and think that's a team that compete either.

Speaker 2 (01:03:13):
Hmmm. Aren't gonna be real with you, Matt.

Speaker 3 (01:03:17):
I got extremely distracted by why did they start dropping
techno beats in the middle of that?

Speaker 2 (01:03:22):
Because, for those who don't know, Brian Windhors was actually
dancing in a zoot suit as he was talking about
all it sounds like, why did they start a rave
in the middle of that? Maybe they want to go
to the Daisy Festival in Las Vegas. You never know
these things. And Carnival, Yes, I thought you were gonna go.
Dockerman wants me to go with him to that. I'm like,
I'm not going to that. First I thought it already happened. Well,

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he we've been planning it. But I just said weren't
way too much. I told you it wasn't. It's like
it's like three, I told you you weren't going to go.
I don't want to go because the music sucks, first
and foremost. Why you haven't do you know what the
who's playing? I don't know, but that's his jam. He
loves that stuff, and I don't. Let's get back to
this stuff.

Speaker 3 (01:04:03):
You can get into it when a good when there's
a good crowd, it doesn't matter what's there. Certainly the
way they dressed there, you're gonna enjoy yourself.

Speaker 2 (01:04:08):
Matt. Yeah, bring some glasses though, Yeah, it wouldn't be
nearly as obvious. You want to get caught here, Okay,
So let's let's go to The Rockets didn't give up
and hold on to Capitol. That means their first round picks,
I mean the other team's first round picks. I asked
you this last week, are you sure you can't give
the Bucks four to five first round picks and be fine,

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are you absolutely sure about that?

Speaker 3 (01:04:33):
Do you think it's only gonna cost you four first
round picks? Okay, so Desmond Baine went for four first
round picks plus players Matthew Desmond Bane.

Speaker 2 (01:04:47):
But they're all but the heat. The Magic are also
have gave them the Grizzlies a terrible contract, that's true.
Pope is now paid twenty one and a half million
dollars a year, and that's a terrible deal. And that's
now owned by Memphis. I think they bought those draft picks.

Speaker 3 (01:05:03):
Yeah, but twenty million dollars a year, as you know,
with the cap going on, it's not a whole lot.
We're talking about how that's a bargain for for Jabari
Smith Jr.

Speaker 2 (01:05:11):
All right, I'm gonna make you the general manager for
the Houston Rockets right now. Okay, give me the deal
today that that's the Milwaukee's like, that makes sense.

Speaker 3 (01:05:21):
For the Milwaukee would say yes to go, don't go overboard.
Shag a men in three picks, that's what they're gonna want.
You can't have a man there's that's not that's telling
a possibility, a certain center, four number ones, they don't
say yes. First of all, you need to throw more
in there, of course, because of money.

Speaker 2 (01:05:43):
Okay, a certain center, a certain backup name, come on,
all right, he Alpie cam and four number ones, they
say no, Tarsan Alpe, four number ones. I think I
can't give you five to one number one. I can
I don't think. I don't even know if you can

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legally do that.

Speaker 3 (01:06:05):
I've never heard of anybody get more than four, right
the go Bart Rudy Gobert was four and Desmond bang
was four. Now Kevin Durant, of course, was only one
or what one? In five first seconds? You're out a
second round?

Speaker 2 (01:06:19):
Pick one? Yeah, yeah, you're giving the ones up that
the other like Phoenix, You still own Phoenix? The Phoenix one?
You want that one because they're gonna suck. Do you
own a Brooklyn one? At some point, I think they
still have a Brooklyn swap and maybe I can't. Yeah, yeah,
Brooklyn swap. That's exactly right. That's a lot Rosses. You

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want a two time MVP in his prime, Matt, I
don't know, but he shoots thirty percent from three, He
shoot sixty percent from the field.

Speaker 3 (01:06:50):
I mean, he just won twenty something one a couple
he he just that. Just this year he averaged thirty points.
I'll go pull it up.

Speaker 2 (01:06:59):
It's like eleven rebounds and seven assists or something like that. Okay,
and he shoots sixty percent from the field. That's the thing.
That's how crazy good he is. Everyone knows he's not
taking a three point. I always say that all the time.
I tell you that all the time.

Speaker 3 (01:07:13):
Third thirty points, twelve rebounds and six and a half
assists and world class defense. Hello, his first team All
NBA defense.

Speaker 2 (01:07:33):
All Right, I don't think it's Houston, though I think
New York is gonna do whatever they can. I don't
think it's Houston. And I don't think I'm in Thompson
is untouchable for you, Honis. I just don't. Okay, you
and I will disagree on that, and I will not
budge from that. Okay. I know that the talent levels

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are different, I know, but I'm.

Speaker 3 (01:07:54):
Just yeah telling you men, Thompson's not gonna have as
good a careers as Joannis and all like lude.

Speaker 2 (01:07:58):
I mean, that's just a fact. Two time envy. Yeah,
but you're not trading a Monol mountor you have enough
of him and other players. I mean it would be
you know, if you did it, if you did one
for one, then then you could you could definitely swallow that.
But you're looking for multiple live human beings and multiple
draft picks and the fact that a man is on
a rookie deal. Still, yeah, yeah, all right, ten forty

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two on Sports Talk seven ninety. It is interesting, however,
that the Yana stuff won't go away. There are young
Lebron rumors about him maybe being traded because he stopped
he picks up his option for a contract maxture to
stay with the Los Angeles Lakers, and the Lakers are like, yeah,
we don't really want to tell you the he did.

(01:08:40):
We're just the world's telling you. Rich Paul's agent is
telling you, well, he goes somewhere else before his careers
had done, because I mean, are the Lakers any closer
even with Luca. I mean, I think there's a lot
of uncertainty in Los Angeles right now, which is strange
because I think I'm I'm not I'm certainly going to
be watching what they do. Yeah, they're not contenders now,

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I still got them on fraud alert and I still
don't think he's going somewhere else. I mean, at some point,
do you mean, are you gonna just be in uh
what do they call it? A carbon backers? You're going
from place to place to place. M that's it's happening.
It's kind of what.

Speaker 3 (01:09:14):
He's been doing his entire career. Vin Durant hopping around here. Yeah,
Chris Paul's hopping around. Kevin Durant' hopping around. He's a
Houston Rocket Kevin Durant.

Speaker 2 (01:09:23):
Yeah, but we believe in we we know we uh,
we believe in certain hopping. Especially it's the Southeast Texan. Yeah,
when it's here, it's all good. It is all good. Yeah.

Speaker 3 (01:09:32):
I want to hear from the people that have been
talking about how, yeah, how Kevin Durant's ring chaser and
he sucks he comes to the Eastern Rocket.

Speaker 2 (01:09:39):
Oh yeah, Kevin Durant, greatest of all time. Well, I
want to be consistent. He was going for a ring,
but I didn't believe him for it. He was also
the best player on those teams. He won both finals. MVPs.
You're supposed to go, go, You're supposed to go look
for a ring.

Speaker 6 (01:09:54):
That's it.

Speaker 2 (01:09:55):
That's the whole point. Yeah, you can't build up this
ring culture and it's all about rings, rings, rings, rings, ring,
and then when somebody tries and goes to get a ring,
you get mad at him. The NBA discourse is the worst.
Oh yeah, the hypocrisy week to week with among the
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two five seveninti Astros. There is a player on the
Astros that is having a magnificent season that we've already
for about our better part of a year have said
Cyinara to and I don't know how we get out
of that because no one is trying to keep him here.
We'll discuss who that is. Coming back Baton Ross with

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you on a Monday. Good morning, Houston, Texas. We are
with you today until two o'clock. Don't be a stranger.
We know you ten o'clockers are late risers, or just
don't like us. Maybe maybe Ross were were affable between
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two one two five seven on eighty so and maybe
I've been the leader of this ross and I don't
mean to be, but I think I've said on probably
a half dozen occasions there's no chance, no way, no
how the Astros are resigning from Rivaldez. I would agree
with that still, and I can't back off because there

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have been no whispers of any sort of content, conversations
or any I mean, zilch, even when Dana asked about it,
even when uh Fromer's asked about it. I no, we
haven't said anything. Babwie will give you a little small
update on the Jeremy Pania from Dana Brown coming up

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at the top of the next hour, because there are
some interesting comments from Dana from yesterday's Sunday appearance on
Astros Radio. But Ross, all he does is when he
hasn't when's the last time that he I mean, he
had the five walk game against Oakland against the Athletics,
but he still won't terrible. He just walked a lot
of folks. All he does is win now for the Astros.

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I think the time out before wait, uh, how many
walks did he have. I think he had four walks
a couple of starts ago, but he had nine walks
in the previous two starts, not not killed, including yesterday. Okay, yeah,
so I mean even then, it's crazy how good he
can be. And then he had the didn't he have

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the complete game? And he was like at eighty something
pitches or something like that. He's now on the season
four and three. Actually that's a road record. His overall
two seventy two e RA. You have two guys in
the top five of the cy Young It feels like
his last five starts seven innings, five six seven six.

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Number of earned runs in those last five games five games,
six runs. Is that good? It's really good.

Speaker 3 (01:12:59):
Yeah, he's amazing. He's incredible. He's making a good statement
for himself. He's going to hit free agency and he's
going to get a lot of money.

Speaker 2 (01:13:08):
But man, you ain't here and squat about him, stay
in Houston. Oh, I don't think so.

Speaker 3 (01:13:13):
And what do we always say, Matt, especially if you
don't have anything on a spring training it ain't happening.

Speaker 2 (01:13:18):
It ain't happening. So while all he's doing at this
point is building his resume, the question is going to
be if you're another team. Let's it doesn't really matter
what team you are. Do you think at all why
you don't why the Astros didn't even possibly offer something,

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or do you say, well, the Astro's history and representation
has given out the notion that we don't sign guys
a super long term deals. I've never heard from perveld
this say I'm looking for a seven or eight year deal.
Maybe you don't have to say it. You mean agent
does the heavy little I'm sure he Yeah, I'm sure
he wants something like that. He wants to hit the
market and get as much as possible.

Speaker 3 (01:14:00):
Before spring training last year, we kept hearing Dana Brown like, yeah,
we're we're putting together an offer for for Bregman. There's
no offer yet, there's no other there was no real substantive.

Speaker 2 (01:14:09):
Offer or for that matter. Yeah, so this is standard
operating procedure and Jim Crane's been doing this for a
long time and it keeps working. Yeah. Has he really
been burned yet by anybody?

Speaker 3 (01:14:25):
I would say before Tommy John from Garrett Cole, that
was probably the best deal that that was being lived
up to.

Speaker 2 (01:14:32):
Did he win? He won a cy Young with the
Yankees or I just think the Yankees up until the
Tommy John were upset about the money that we're spending on. No, yeah,
he won, I mean he won a cy Young Award.
With the Charlie Morton has been able to be productive,
but it wasn't like the Life win. The Astros kept
winning despite Charlie Morton not being here, you know, I
mean it was. There hasn't been one that has like
hitching the belly go man. I can't like if George

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Springer was a forty one to twenty guy with Toronto
year in and year, that would hurt right as much
as you love Jake Myers, you had your son, right,
do love Jake Myers? Yeah, let's see.

Speaker 3 (01:15:06):
I just Garrett Coles finishes in the cy Young Lesiyankee fourth, second,
ninth and first, and he won it, and then last
year he had injury.

Speaker 2 (01:15:14):
In this year he's got Tommy John speaking of centerfielders,
and I won't be here for you on Thursday. If
I just don't get it, can I do it early?
I just don't get it? Yes? Why is Cedric Mullins
and the Astros being tied together? From Bob Nightingale left
handed bat outfield help? You know what his batting averages?

(01:15:36):
I don't. Is he having a bad year career? He's
much better, right, I know he's having a down year.
His OPS is seven oh seven. Okay, that was as
of yesterday. I didn't see it how he did yesterday
before yesterday? Should say? I mean, oh, he's been a
negative player this year. I didn't. I knew he was
having a down year at the play, but I didn't know.

(01:15:57):
Is this bad? Can I just ask you? I just
don't get it?

Speaker 4 (01:16:00):
What?

Speaker 2 (01:16:00):
Okay? What are you hoping that maybe a changing uniform,
going from a bad team to a good team could
help me? That could possibly be the case. I mean,
the Astros went and got Usai Kakuchi. He sucked in Toronto.
It was great for the Astros last year. It's not
gonna happen. But they do it better with with pitchers
than position players. Yeah. Uh, let's see, he's got an
OPS plus of one oh one. He's got he's got

(01:16:23):
fourteen home runs. I think so there's there's some There
is some, yeah, some power in that bad for sure.
Jake Meyer's OPS plus one fifteen and is not gonna
cost you anything. Now, do you want to put him
in left field or send Jake to left field, because
guys who's now playing left field very much these days?
Sports Harvey jose L two ve, you're greatest aster of

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all time? Uh, well, Jeff bag was retired.

Speaker 3 (01:16:47):
But when Jordon comes back from his hand injury, Okay,
I think you're gonna see a lot more because they've
been able to d h and put a jose L
two vat at second base a lot.

Speaker 2 (01:16:59):
Yeah. And obviously Brendan Rodgers on the injured list does
not get you have but you're down a man at
second base. Mm hmm. But I mean, what in the
last how much how much love Field is to play
in the last two weeks? Maybe once a week maybe?
And you also, I mean, I guess was it was
a couple of days missed by Paradis And it's been
a couple of days missed by by Jeremy Pine as well.

(01:17:21):
So you've had some infield injuries right right, right, But
it just feels like to me and I will I
will fall on the sword on this this he's playing
way more second base than I ever thought he was
going to play. I think it's some injury related mostly personally,
probably so all right, first hour of the books here
on the Matt Thomas Show with Ross. If you'd like
to chime in seven one three two one two five
seven AUTI, when I tell you the Astros, you don't

(01:17:43):
hear a peep about trying to keep from Berbaldez. What
is your reaction on that? My reaction has been very simple,
no surprise whatsoever, because we kind of knew this all along.
But I'm not. But you guys are the fans. You
guys are the ones that go to see him pitch
every fifth day. Seven one three two one two five

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seven ninety seven one three two one two five seven ninety.
Also coming up in the next half hour, we have
an NBA player in some serious trouble with perhaps betting
on the sport. We have a one of the most
interesting stories in college football last year leaving his campus.
We also have a major train in the NFL to

(01:18:25):
get to and of course your Astros are five and
one and the Rockets keep a big man around for
a while. All that coming up between now and two o'clock.
In one half hour, we have Ross's edition of To
Tell the Truth seven one three two one two five
seven ninety At your squad went five and one if

(01:18:46):
the Cubs two out of three two nothing another shutout
for the local nine. That leads us into at twelve
oh six the news at noon.

Speaker 1 (01:18:57):
And with that.

Speaker 2 (01:18:59):
The brnline Quist of Houston Sports Journalism prospital. Oh, thank you, Matt,
I'll take that.

Speaker 3 (01:19:05):
I guess in your life have you ever seen anything
like a fracture in the rib of Jeremy Pania.

Speaker 2 (01:19:13):
Now, this just broke a few I know, no press
release from the Houston Astros. We talked about it, of
course last segment. Additional imaging done on Jeremy Pania has
revealed a small fracture in one of the ribs on
his left side. As a result, he would be placed
on the ten day IL retroactive to June twenty eighth.

(01:19:38):
We'll announce a corresponding roster move on Tuesday. Jeremy Pania,
we hardly knew ye When Scott Boris reaches out to
Jeremy Paint to Dana Brown, yeah, he said, hey, you

(01:19:58):
just want to make sure you're still eleven our client,
and Dana Brown respond.

Speaker 3 (01:20:02):
Oh, I think this tips the balance of the leverage
and so terrible. So we're gonna see every day shortstop
Mauricio Dubon for a couple of weeks.

Speaker 2 (01:20:12):
Do you think ye? Yep? Who else is he even
qualified to play short on this team?

Speaker 6 (01:20:19):
Just do me?

Speaker 2 (01:20:19):
Huh not your may No, I mean Dubon can't. Yeah,
and that probably means a little more LTV at second
or D. Do you have any kind of updates on
your on Alvarez? Mean, what the heck's going on over there? Oh,
he's going to West Paul Beach.

Speaker 3 (01:20:34):
Oh, that's right, he gets and Chas McCormick both, Yeah,
that's right, he's getting some hacks in the Florida Complex League.
All right, Well, you also have the Astros off today
and then three games with the Colorado Rockies coming up. Matt,
it'll be Colton Gordon versus uh and then Hunter Brown
and then Brandon Walter against three guys with e ra

(01:20:55):
As around six.

Speaker 2 (01:20:59):
For the rock saying there's chance, I'm thinking so, so
it is if an ERA is six in Houston, is
that an era like eight and a half in Denver?
That's what I'm thinking. I mean if yeah, well they're
all Denver pitchers, so it could be inflated numbers. So
sports empty, that's me says take the over in all
three games of the series, just saying, even with Hunter

(01:21:22):
Brown on the mountain, Well, we fell into that trap
in Tampa. Oh, we certainly did your fault. You're right,
it is my fault. Okay elsewhere Yesterday, for the Houston Rockets,
Jabari Smith signing a five year, one hundred and twenty
two million dollars rookie extension. Sean Sharania first to report

(01:21:48):
Smith with twelve point two points and seven rebounds per game,
also had that broken left hand. Has been better in
the last two years as far as three point shooting,
but not to the level you were hoping with where
he was drafted and with his track record as an
aubun tiga. But we talked about this earlier.

Speaker 3 (01:22:07):
Man one hundred and twenty two million dollars roundly thought
of around the league as a bargain for the young
role player.

Speaker 2 (01:22:15):
I love the fact that a role player could make
twenty four and a half million dollars per year. Not
bad work if he can get it overall in his career.

Speaker 3 (01:22:25):
A thirty four percent three point shooter, but he was
horri horrible his first year thirty point seven percent. But
since then thirty six and thirty five. He can continue
to be around there. He's gonna be pretty good and
this will be good value for the Houston Rockets. Whether
he comes off the bench or starts. You think he
starts more games or comes off the bench in more
games than twenty twenty five.

Speaker 2 (01:22:45):
I will say he starts more games. I think he
can put that as a heavy favorite.

Speaker 3 (01:22:50):
By the way, a couple of other moves in the NBA,
Lebron James opts into his fifty two million dollar option,
So he is for now, but he could be traded,
but for now still a Los Angeles Laker. James Harden
opting out of his deal with the Clippers but then
resigning to a two year, eighty one and a half

(01:23:11):
million dollar deal. We went to the list already before
I think last week, Matt James Harden's already one of
the highest earning players in NBA history, and he just
got another eighty million dollars.

Speaker 2 (01:23:22):
Can I tell you that I respect Sean Sharani. I
obviously he gets all the information right. I mean, Sean
doesn't miss anymore. Did you see what his second tweet
was after his first tweet announcing that James was resigning.
I did not. He said hard work and well deserved
new contract. Yes, I don't think anybody in Clipperland believes that.

(01:23:51):
Do you think the Clippers fans are upset? I guess maybe. Well.
I want to make sure I read you the exact
tweet because I did a double take one and he
said it, because again I understand James has value, but
James also another year of another first round by out
in the playoffs and another where were you and we

(01:24:14):
needed you in Game seven kind of thing.

Speaker 3 (01:24:16):
Third team All NBA All Start twenty three point eight
point seven assists Chams' tweet.

Speaker 2 (01:24:22):
The second year has a player option and is partially guaranteed.
This deal further is a strong partnership, hardened his forge
with a Clipper since he arrived. He receives a well
deserved raise while providing the team with flexibility to add
talent in the present and future. Well deserved. Rays don't
say that, Rossie.

Speaker 3 (01:24:42):
The question is did he copy and paste that directly
from the agent or did he add his own modifications?

Speaker 2 (01:24:47):
That is exactly on Twitter. The dude that Bett says
deserves a raise for what let's see here. Oh and
then at Kings of cards says, yes, eighty one million,
well deserved, and he puts in his game seven box score,
thirty five minutes, seven points on two of ain't shooting?
How many assists though? Oh stop? What he had? Thirteen

(01:25:12):
ausis all right? All right, maybe you win. I mean
James is fine. You know, James been nicer than me before,
as as a post rocket, than ever was as a rocket.
Oh really, yeah, that's cool. Not really, he's maturing. I
would like to him. Been nice to be on the
plane when he didn't play that vile rat music. We
were trying to sleep. Oh well, that was his plane.

(01:25:34):
You were.

Speaker 3 (01:25:35):
You weren't on the Rockets plane. You were on James
Harden's plane. Was I was on the hardened airlines?

Speaker 2 (01:25:39):
Yes, you were exactly. It also went wherever he wanted
to We went. I will say this. We used to
go to La two days earlier. That was fun. I
enjoyed that. You missed that, don't you? Maybe a little
bit that your news at noon, Matt, when we return
more basketball headlines that made disappoint some of you will
tell you about that and more. Seven one three two

(01:26:02):
one two five seven ninety seven one three two one
two five seven ninety with We'll get back to some
baseball conversation coming up in a little bit here. On
the Matt Thomas Show with Ross, it is a group
chat Monday, Ross. My group chat is nothing involved involving
volleyball scheduling, so nothing overly intriguing for the audience too. Yeah, yeah,
we don't want to hear about that. I don't think so.

(01:26:24):
My group chat is talking about Jabaris Smith Junior and
also the horrible Jake Paul boxing fight over the weekend.
How bad was it? I didn't see anything of that.

Speaker 3 (01:26:36):
He fought, Uh did you even know he was fighting, Matt, No,
he fought, Julio says, our Chavez Junior. And apparently there
were rounds where Julio says, our Chavez Junior didn't even
throw throw a punch, no way, and Jake Paul won
the fight.

Speaker 2 (01:26:50):
Yeah, that's Floyd. That's very Floyd Mayweather of him. Hmmm.
Explain Flood was not a heavy volume puncher, was he?

Speaker 3 (01:27:04):
I mean, yeah, he would he would throw some. I
would say, so you threw enough to win. He was
a counterpuncher for sure. But Julio says, our job as
was when they're basically taking a dive. And now, Jake Paul,
you know what, I bet our shot up and not
say that because he said he's threatening to sue people
who say that they're taking dives.

Speaker 2 (01:27:19):
Okay, and then I'll conclude today's boxing conversation of the day.
Another topic it will get about a one minute run
on the show. Ross. The WNBA announced three new expansion
teams for play through two thousand and thirty. Comets. Well
that was a team that won four championships back in nineties, asked,
you're accurate about that? Comments coming back? They need their

(01:27:41):
voice back. He's available in the summer. He's available. Craig
and I have both done comments games for the years.
Did WEX do him back in the day too? Wex
might have been a filling guy. Yeah, I think so. Yeah.
Congratulations to new WNBA teams in Cleveland. And I lost

(01:28:06):
my list stand by, okay, promote your ig.

Speaker 3 (01:28:12):
Yeah, Instagram, I'm following people back right now at sports
RV and Instagram. I'm trying to build it up. You know,
it's twenty twenty five and quite frankly, I've been lanking
a lagging behind on social media because it's not my
favorite thing in the world, but got to put myself
out there more so you can follow me at sports RV.
Follow you back relations to Cleveland who used.

Speaker 2 (01:28:32):
To have a team. Oh they did, Detroit who used
to have a team, and Philadelphia, who will get a
new team for the very first time.

Speaker 3 (01:28:41):
Are they just gonna name the league after Caitlin Clark?
I mean, didn't they say all the teams are like
doubled in value since she came to the league. And
now they're doing expansions and bringing back teams where franchises
have folded. It's crazy how the star power of I mean, okay, others,
but mostly her, led by her as the flagship, are
are revitalizing the league.

Speaker 2 (01:29:04):
Do you know how much it cost for an expansion
team to if you want to buy into the WNBA,
you know what the cost is? One hundred and seventy
two dollars? All right? I want you to take that back,
and I want you to give me a real number,
and I want Jonathan you to look at as well.
And I have most no clue over well, it's closest
without going over wins the WNBA franchise. Oh, we're doing

(01:29:24):
prices right, all right? Let's see, I have no contact.
I have no clue. It is in the millions.

Speaker 3 (01:29:30):
Fifty five million. Do you say no, No, I'm going
to go under. Actually I'm gonna go back to the
thirty five million.

Speaker 2 (01:29:36):
I don't. I'm gonna say with twenty five the actual
retail price to purchase an expansion team for our WNBA
is two hundred and fifty million dollars American American. I'm
talking about rubles. So the three teams that are getting

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new franchises in twenty eight to twenty nine and thirty
each paid two hundred and fifty million dollars, which is
about five times as much as Golden State did a
few years ago. And that team is playing in its
very first season in the WNBA. The Valkyrie's what they
called them. Okay, so we're burying the headline. The comments

(01:30:20):
are not coming back anytime soon. What the heck? You
would be probably at least twenty thirty one if that
was to happen. Why is that though they've they're announcing
that's the team's announced through twenty thirty. Oh okay, by
the way, would you like to know how much it

(01:30:42):
costs to buy an expansion NHL team?

Speaker 3 (01:30:47):
Okay, if WNBA is two hundred How much was it
a five mil? A four hundred seven seventy five zero mil?

Speaker 2 (01:30:57):
Seven hundred and fifty million? Huh? The actual retail price
for expansion team is two billion dollars.

Speaker 1 (01:31:04):
Yeah, what.

Speaker 2 (01:31:06):
For NHL?

Speaker 6 (01:31:08):
Hm?

Speaker 2 (01:31:09):
That makes sense? No, it doesn't make any sense. I
guess what are those franchises value? Bad?

Speaker 3 (01:31:16):
I don't know, but I guess you gotta buy in
for the value. Is it you're talking about all in?
Does this count like an arena getting built? I'm confused.

Speaker 2 (01:31:22):
I don't know, but they say I just got a
text that had said two point fifty for a team
in the WNBA. NHL wants two billion per expansion team
to split up among the ownership. I guess. Hmmm.

Speaker 3 (01:31:38):
This says the Maple Leaves are the most valuable franchise
at two point eight billion.

Speaker 2 (01:31:43):
It costs two billion to get into the team. Yeah,
only three teams or four teams are above two billion
in value Maple Lice, Rangers, Canadians, Kings, and that's it.
Should I out the person that sent me that text? No, okay,
I don't you know. I'm only going off of what

(01:32:04):
our good friend, who is an authoritarian on sports teams
told me, I'm not calling that person a liar. I'm
just saying I guess it's because, I mean, they're worth that.
If that's what they're worth, then you got to buy
in what it's worth. I don't know who knows who knows.
All I know is that I would have never guessed
it costs two hundred and fifty million dollars for a

(01:32:25):
WNBA team. I guess it looks like they're making about
one hundred million a year these franchises for the most part. Well,
how way a minute, how is the league then never
turned a profit?

Speaker 3 (01:32:37):
Oh, I'm sorry, I'm talking about an Joe. Oh okay,
the WNBA has to be turning a profit now, I
mean it just has to be.

Speaker 2 (01:32:44):
It didn't turn a profit last year. It didn't. No,
it is never turned a profit in the history of
its league. Well, they must be making some kind of
money with the subsidies from the NBA, because why would
anybody lay down two hundred and fifty million dollars to
not make money? That's a great question. Again, You're you're
making total sense. How does how do you get to

(01:33:12):
fifty and you still don't turn a profit? You're not
playing a full eighty two game schedule. Your television deals
are okay. I guess your arena sales are okay, especially
if you have Kitlin Clark.

Speaker 3 (01:33:27):
Kaitlyn Clerks in the hen't forbid you like there's an
ACL or something. The whle League's gonna go under.

Speaker 2 (01:33:33):
You get a you get a game between the Aces
and the Sparks, and no, no cantling Clark. You're drawing
forty five hundred. I don't know this is ross. It
seems like to me it's just a lot of funny
math right now. I don't know what's going on, but
congratulations a WNBA for securing seven hundred and fifty million
dollars with three new teams. And sadly, Houston for those

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of you that are WNBA fans, is not one of them.
All right, It is twelve twenty eight on Sports Talk
seven ninety seven one three two one two five seven
ninety seven three two one two five seven ninety We
have an NBA player in some hot water. We'll tell
you what is going on with him next Ross, what's

(01:34:19):
your favorite? Malik Beasley is an NBA player. Moment when
I forgot he existed, Yeah, I don't know if he's
as a household name. Now. Obviously I've called a lot
of NBA games and Milik Beasley played for a variety
of NBA teams. He is in trouble with the law

(01:34:40):
or maybe not, who knows. Malik bes Beasley is a
swing player who is about to sign a three year
contract worth forty two million dollars. There was only one problem.
That deal is off the table by the Pistons because
federal authorities are investigating whether or not he has had
gambling related to NBA games and prop bets. When are

(01:35:06):
these players going to learn? I have to say I
was wrong.

Speaker 3 (01:35:11):
I thought there wouldn't really be much of any sort
of gambling scandals because of the salaries and how much
money the NBA players make that it wouldn't be worth
it for them.

Speaker 2 (01:35:23):
A gambling industry source pointed to a game between the
Bucks and the Blazers on January thirty first, twenty twenty four.
The odds on Beasley recording fewer than two and a
half rebounds moved significantly at sportsbooks before the game shortened,
from around plus oney to around minus two fifty due
to a surge of action on the under Beasley finished

(01:35:46):
with six rebounds, and the bets that were deemed unusual lost. Huh,
so there was unusual activity, but he's still won. Yeah,
so he tasted it. He'd like, well you.

Speaker 3 (01:36:01):
Could if it went to minus whatever. Huh did they
do unusual activity to swing it one way and then
they bet the other and then somebody bet the under
the other side.

Speaker 2 (01:36:11):
Yeah? That I don't know. I'm all in going off
a wire story here. For example, Alter that Billy Walter,
it's the big gambler.

Speaker 3 (01:36:19):
He would bet like a million dollars on one side
to move the line, and then he would slam the
other side for a multimillions and then go that way.

Speaker 2 (01:36:27):
You know what I'm saying. Yeah, so betting one to
swing it and then betting to the other direction because
you want to write more value. I get it. That
makes sense. Yeah, yeah, yeah boy. This happened during the
twenty three twenty four season when Beasley was with the Bucks.
I don't think there's anything to tie to him as
a Piston, nothing that matters. I mean, I'm just this

(01:36:53):
is nothing more than a headline chaser in terms of
I mean, we don't even know what happened, but it's
a bigger point. These prop bets have become. You know
what it is, ross, It's just a it's a thirst
for betting more than just to score with the game, right, Yeah,
I mean, Gilli laccht on it, Gill'll taste. I don't

(01:37:14):
mind that.

Speaker 3 (01:37:16):
But I mean when when I was pushing for illegalized gambling,
I didn't realize, I mean, how much it was going
to be put into everybody's faces. And also I didn't
realize that this was going to be happening with players.
Although there has been no he has not been charged
with a crime. Correct, Correct, there's just an investigationation.

Speaker 2 (01:37:36):
Now. He was about to sign a three year deal
with the Pistons. He played very well for the Pistons
last year. He was set to sign a three year
deal with forty two million dollars. That tap, that deal
has been pulled off the table temporarily.

Speaker 3 (01:37:47):
And you said the Feds got him as federal Yeah,
he's he's made He's made fifty three million in his career, which.

Speaker 2 (01:37:56):
I thought I would have guessed two of the next
three years. Yeah. No, he's been a he's been a
guy's bounced around. I mean, it was a nugget for
a while. I think Timberwolves mentioned the Bucks now that
Detroit Pistons. Mm hmm, I'm honestly not. I'm surprised we
don't talk about this more than when we do, because

(01:38:17):
not only it's not about hey, I like the sixers
plus six and a half or I like the over undertotal,
it's you can go to any casino you want to,
within reason, get on that betting window, and you can
bet what individuals prop bets on just about anything in
the game. Correct. Yeah, but they're monitoring. I mean, there

(01:38:39):
is the reason there was a red flag here.

Speaker 3 (01:38:40):
They monitor the activity, and if there's a flurry of activity,
very unusual activity, then that's gonna put up flags all
across these sportsbooks.

Speaker 2 (01:38:50):
Yeah, then why do it? Then? If you if you
want to bet on yourself or bet on have a
friend and bet on you, you can probably get away
with it as long as the numbers aren't crazy in
terms of dollars. Sense you help me on this. How
do you swing something from a plus what I tell
you one fifty? That means that there was a I
mean thousands and thousands, if not millions of action. I'm

(01:39:12):
not a sports book.

Speaker 3 (01:39:13):
You know, I don't run a sports book, but if
you're moving a just you know, you and me putting
twenty bucks or a couple hundred bucks on it or
whatever is not going to move the line. You'd have
to be in the thousands, if not more to move
a line from For people don't know. Plus one twenty
means if you're you're one hundred dollars, get you one twenty,
or you're laying two fifty.

Speaker 2 (01:39:32):
To one hundred dollars. That's crazy. Yeah, that's a huge swing.
I just don't know what he would Why would you
jeopardize you? I mean, unless you're trying to take care
of bookies or whatever, because you've got your own gambling issues.
I don't know what they're. Yeah, you just tell your friend,

(01:39:53):
your friend needs some money or whatever. You're like, hey,
i'll give you ten thousand. You make this bet and
I'll turn it into twenty thousand. But I mean, it
would even have to be I would have I would
guess it had to be larger scale than that to
move a line that much. Yeah, all right, it is
twelve thirty nine here on Sports Talk seven ninety. We're
gonna get back to the Astros one other thing I
want to get to and this is another one of
those situations. We've got a story here ross that we
can't possibly comment on. There was a quarterback that played

(01:40:18):
at BYU last year that was of Jewish faith. Yes,
and it has nothing really to do with the story itself,
but it is an interesting story. It's just so rare
that a non Mormon player, first of all, plays at BYU.
That happens every year, but the number of Jewish players
that have ever played at BYU has got to be

(01:40:39):
probably you can count on one or two hands. The
gentleman's name was Jake Retzlof and he was an All
Conference player. He was a guy that people embraced because
he was Jewish and that there was a lot of
people that called him by you and I did make
it up. They said it not me, make sure that

(01:41:00):
all just want to make sure. Yes, I mean, they
were selling T shirts, selling T shirts. He embraced it.
There was a whole Sports Center game day story upout him.
So I'm not making this up. I've ordered you a
T shirt already. Don't do that. It's sounding good. So
apparently within the last handful of months there was a

(01:41:20):
story about him having relations with a BYU student and
she claimed sexual misconduct and there was a civil suit
that was filed on behalf of this woman. They called
her Jane Doe. Okay, and apparently there was a lot
of investigation and whatever the case may be, and they

(01:41:42):
never said whether he was guilty or not. He says
it was consensual. They met online, they got intimate, blah blah,
blah blah blah. And whether or not that is true
or not. BYU decided to suspend him for seven games,
not because of the per se perceived sexual assault or
harassment or violence towards her, but whether that all that

(01:42:07):
happened or not is moot, because if you're a BYU student,
you cannot have sex at all while you're at BYU. Oh,
he violated the honor code. If you're that. If you're married,
is it okay? I believe if you're married it is okay.
That's why all of those BYU players get married. They're
also older too. Is they go on missions? Yeah?

Speaker 4 (01:42:28):
Rais so with some dude that was twenty seven and
he had a kid. At the end of the race
BYU all right, he had the dad's trucks. There's old
test So he has been suspended for seven games.

Speaker 2 (01:42:45):
Hmmm, for the violation of the BYU honor code, meaning
you can't drink, you can't smoke, you're not supposed to swear.
You're definitely have caffeine there. Yeah, no caffeine. I don't
know if it's part of the honor code or not,
but you're definitely under no circumstance. Was there any sort
of sexual activity, nothing more than a kiss? Oh, no
vulgar language. Mm hmm. It's tough. I'm violating a lot

(01:43:10):
of these rules. But you're also an adult and you
didn't go to b YUC. You're fine, okay. Good word
comes out today that she has dropped the civil lawsuit.
M m oh, it's horrible. So the rape dismissal charges
are done. He is still on a seven game suspension,

(01:43:30):
and he has announced for the most part he is
planning on transferring out to BYU. So it sounds like
she knew what she was doing, even if it was consensual,
and like a bad that I can't I can't verify.
I'm saying optics optics right now, Like the optics don't
look good for her, That's all I'll say. Hmm. Either

(01:43:56):
that or somehow the Retslav family has paid her off
to go away one of the two. Either she made
it up and she got in trouble because she had
these sexual activities that probably mom and dad weren't particularly
huge fans of, or something serious did happen, and that

(01:44:20):
she was paid to go away one of the two.
So it's kind of a bizarre story, but it is
interesting because this kid was a guy that was not
supposed to go to BYU. Jewish players don't go to
BYU typically. Not only did he go there, but he
was very good and helped BYU win a ten game season.
So and now this loss suspended. Now he's going somewhere else.

(01:44:41):
Now he's going somewhere else. And I don't know what
BYU's quarterback situation is, but you know they're they're now
backups there that are looking for a job at this point. Hmm.
This apparently Red's laugh. The woman traded quote unquote lighthearted

(01:45:01):
text messages for months after the encounter and characterize the
lawsuit as an extortion attempt based on the idea that
Retz left developed into an NFL prospect. About a year later. Good,
oh dear, he's gonna get some money. Probably isn't an
I owe money right now. Again, I want to presume anything. Ross,

(01:45:22):
I don't know. I'm staying out of this me too.
I'm not walking. I'm walking out of your sea. Leader. Yeah,
I'm done. I'm done. I'm done. I'm not gonna bring
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Sports Talk seven ninety. Maybe just joining us at twelve fifty.
Where the hell have you been? Number two Jeremy Pania
on the injured list Ross with a small fracture in
one of his ribs on his left side on the
ten day in your list retroactive to June twenty eighth.
He's sustained the injury Friday against the Chicago Cubs after

(01:46:05):
being hit by a pitch. Just great. Do we need
a water tower with SA saved Jeremy up there? It'd
be fine. It's a little rib fracture. Let me tell
you something. And again, I don't know. I haven't had
very many rib fractures in my life because I'm not
in a quote unquote athlete. I haven't really really gone

(01:46:28):
that hard at anyone in my life. Yes, that can't
feel good, dude. Not being able to breathe? Oh lord,
you know you kind of need to do that to live. Yeah,
I'm with you. Do sound great? Do you want a
general timeline according to my cursory research? All right, one o'clock,

(01:46:51):
we're gonna come back with the web md update, brought
to you by no One. We're gonna play some music
behind it. Okay, you'll instruct Jonathan where to find that music.
It's fine, and we'll have doctor villar Real give us
the rundown of how bad this could possibly be.

Speaker 3 (01:47:05):
Doctor Bill, I'm not breaking any of this down, all right.
I was just yeah, I was just buying my license
revoked for what what? They shut down my vein in
the alley. It's ridiculous.

Speaker 2 (01:47:18):
So Cross, does our insurance cover doctor villar Real's payment?
I think I'm out of network? Man? All right, Well,
all right, let's go to the phone to talk to
some people. Let's talk to First ramone in Midtown. At
twelve fifty three on The Matt Thomas Show. At ross ramon,
what do you got today?

Speaker 8 (01:47:39):
Yeah, just worried about the Jeremy Pangya injury. And if
he does have a broken rib, they do take more
than ten days to heal, so I think they're lying
to us again. I don't think he'll play, certainly, not
through the All Star Game.

Speaker 2 (01:47:57):
Maybe mid August.

Speaker 3 (01:48:00):
Holy most well, the ten day I L. There's not
like a thirty day AL. It's either ten or sixty.
So I mean tend L doesn't necessarily mean he's only
gonna be out ten days.

Speaker 8 (01:48:12):
Yeah, it's maybe a renewable IL situation, so.

Speaker 2 (01:48:17):
You know, but he just stays there. He just takes
on ten day I L. After the ten days, Yeah,
you don't have to come off after ten. You can
stand there as long as you need to.

Speaker 8 (01:48:29):
I think, yeah, well, yeah, it's bad because he's our
hottest hitter right now. But you know, maybe Alvarez will
come in anytime. He's been on the IL for like
sixty day something ridiculous.

Speaker 2 (01:48:46):
I think May third, since May third was the last
time you played, to thank you, he's on the ten
day IL as well.

Speaker 8 (01:48:53):
We'll hope for the best, but it's not looking good.

Speaker 2 (01:48:56):
Well, we'll lead some more miracles are you? Are you
a position? I'm curious, So how do we know it's middle?

Speaker 8 (01:49:04):
No, it's just that, you know, I've known people that
have had broken ribs and it's taken them longer than
ten days to heal.

Speaker 2 (01:49:14):
So all right, ramon, thanks for being down for us. Sorry, bye,
see there, good bye. We don't want to do a
contest like when when is he coming back? Stop? I'd

(01:49:36):
rather not. What do you win a warm hug and embrace?
Get certificate for a massage? M That would be a
bad idea. Guess when your favorite injured player returns? Oh? No.
Joe was asked about it, and he's like, yeah, I'm

(01:49:57):
gonna sit him out today. I'm gonna sen him out
tomorrow and and then I'm going to give him another
day off on Sunday so we can rest on Monday
and play on Tuesday. That was the last we had
heard until this. Correct. Yeah, apparently he wanted to play
on Yeah, Friday is when he was. I was saying
Saturday earlier that he was Friday. He was hit correct, right,
So Joe was saying basically, yeah, you know he wants

(01:50:20):
to play, We're doing it.

Speaker 3 (01:50:21):
I'm gonna do everything with my power to keep him
out of this game today, as in like I don't
want to use him as a pinch hitter.

Speaker 2 (01:50:26):
Like sounded like it was just going to be a
couple of days. But follow up imaging disagreed. Pray for Jeremy.
Now he's got a squad Boris he can be all right,
But you know what, he's not gonna play the All
Star Game now. I don't think. No, I wouldn't think.

(01:50:47):
So can he still be selected? Yeah, well no, he
hasn't been selectly, but I'm gonna assume he's gonna get in.
I would assume as well. But oh man, Vincent, Midtown's
got better news for us in life fence. What's going on?

Speaker 6 (01:51:02):
Hey? Yeah, I was out of town all last week,
so I didn't get to see you guys. As to
the Durant trade, first of all, I'm I think it
was a steal.

Speaker 2 (01:51:11):
Now.

Speaker 6 (01:51:12):
I was all against it, thinking that we would have
to give up budget Bari, but that's definitely a good thing.
And wondering what you think the status of Whitmore is
as we stand right now, and I'll listen.

Speaker 2 (01:51:29):
Thanks thanks for the phone call Ross to me. His
name is being brought up way too much in trade
conversation for him to be thinking he's a guarantee return
into the rockets.

Speaker 3 (01:51:38):
Yeah, I don't think he's a guarantee return. I don't
think he's guaranteed to get a lot of minutes. And
I'm just going off previous history.

Speaker 2 (01:51:47):
Apparently the Chicago Bulls are showing interest in one Cam Witmore.
My guess is if they do kick the tires on
a Giannis and then the goopo move that there would
be Cam went or be involved. I think he's a
trade chip, don't know that for sure. I like him.
Didn't see a whole lot of him for a reason,

(01:52:09):
and you know, I don't know how much more playing
time you would get. And if he was to stay here,
you know, is is he a guy that needs a
change of scenery? Is he is? He may already decided
who he is because he just didn't. He didn't play
him very much unless guys were hurt.

Speaker 6 (01:52:28):
No.

Speaker 2 (01:52:28):
Yeah, I think he was just a last option. I mean,
he had games where he was going off for like
twenty points, but he's he's just also kind of I
think of him as more of a volume guy than
I'm like a devastating scorer. Yeah, and again it sometimes
a change of scenery work, and also sometimes I'm surity
can kick in. I can't guarantee that one of those situations,

(01:52:49):
but I would be foolish to think if the Rockets
are not done in this offseason that Cam's name is
being talked about because he I don't think they want
a trade Tari not going to trade a man. They're
not going to trade out. I mean, if you're going
to put out there a guy that you know you
may want to buy low and and and get something
in return, Kame went More would be the guy, right,

(01:53:11):
I would think so, just looking at his shooting percentages
better than Jalen Green's across the board, just saying, and
can we trust except for the free throw shooting seventy
five percent last year's fine, The defense wasn't spectacular, Yeah,
missing assignment, tanting there, and he looked kind of grumpy

(01:53:31):
on occasion. Yeah, he looked very upset a lot, a
little bit of an attitude problem. It looked like first
round pick NBA guy living the high life, doing you know,
and enjoying all the nice stuff. You always see me smiling.
Why can't he smile? All the time. He wants more, Matt,
I want more. Okay, let's see you making three and

(01:53:52):
a half million NBI. Yeah, he's doing okay. And again
part of it is is that you know, he did
dropping the draft a couple of years ago because of
the things that I think people were concerned about. We
thought it was an injury, but then didn't somebody report
that that was not the case or something like that.
Particularly he didn't interview, well was what I heard. But

(01:54:14):
sometimes you catch lightning in a bottle and look if
you can turn him into something else to help you with,
you know, a sign in trade or anything to grab something.
You know, you didn't You didn't over pay him while
he was here. He was slotted for his draft spot.
And you know, if it helps you get somebody else,
or it helps you get the draft pickpack that you

(01:54:34):
may have lost, you know. Me you're looking for some
second rounds down the road. You know all the rockets
they do value the second rounds, even though they give
a bunch to Kevin Durant. Yeah, they're out of them
basically for a while, you know, But Daryl war didn't
care about it. I mean, I think my guess is
that I think probably felt like having some picks around. Well,
he threw five of them out to Phoenix. It's fine.
One o'clock Sports Talk seven on a Jeremy Pana a

(01:54:59):
fracture in his ribs. We discussed this, among other things,
in the final hour of the Matt Thomas Show with
Ross seven one three two one two five seven ninety.
If you want to chime in on the conversation seven
one three two one two five seven, DONI I've got
to believe it or not today Ross, it is a
highly googleable about d Wayne Lucas. All right, what is

(01:55:23):
your favorite team? He's a horse trainer? Oh, a horse trainer?
He wasn't a jockey?

Speaker 6 (01:55:28):
No?

Speaker 2 (01:55:29):
Okay? Or was he? I have no clue. You know,
horse racing used to be cool to watch. We watch
a Kentucky Derby, right, we go to that and we
enjoy that and then go slam some mid jewlis. Put
on a big hat. It's a good time. Where zoot
suiting the cane top hat? Sure? I mean, realistically, if

(01:55:50):
I wanted to go to the Kentucky Derby, it cost
me probably twenty thousand dollars. You can afford it. No,
I can't. Airfare, hotel, gotta put you, gotta get a
good looking suit, Gotta get your girl a hat. You
gotta get the Julips. Yes, tickets, yeah, twenty twenty thousan. Hey,

(01:56:12):
I'm good. So if I put you in a dream
sporting event and I pay for it, give me the
Kentucky Derby. I don't think for you as Kentucky Derby.
Can I guess what yours is? I don't know what
it is. Oh, I think it's easy. You World Cup Final.
I'll get you a ticket for the World Cup Final'll
be good. Yeah, bab way, we have not shout out
the US national team. Yeah, take that, Costa Rica. So

(01:56:35):
let me explain. I got to the hotel lounge in
time to watch the free kicks penalty You ready for
a non soccer take on this. Yes, I would watch

(01:56:56):
more soccer if the game was just on penalty kicks.
That's ridiculous. It's ridiculous. But I enjoyed the penalty kick round. Okay, good,
high drama, Matt, the goaltenders having to jump one direction
to the other. Oh, keeper, the keeper.

Speaker 6 (01:57:12):
Yeah.

Speaker 2 (01:57:14):
And then one of my close friends, the Spanish voice
of the Rockets, Adrian Chavari is from Costa Rica. Ooh,
who was he a conflicted or was he all Costa
Rica or all USA? Oh? He's one hundred percent Costa Rica,
So I said, I texted him sorry if you're a loss.
Oh no, and he told me what I could do
with the rest of my night. Yeah, sounds about right

(01:57:39):
to say it was a You know again, I don't.
I don't text him daily. You better just missed her
twist the knife I might have done. You know what
I I didn't. You know, I showed courtesy not texting
you when the Cougars choked away the championship. Oh but
you say choke like every other day. Now. I gave
you a few weeks to heal. Did you gave me

(01:57:59):
like that and a half? You're right. I think it
was like the next din't even give me forty eight hours.
What are you talking about? I'm sorry. I would have
died for two days of remorse from you. I didn't
even get that. I'm sorry. I'm sorry when they lost. Sorry,
we're gonna be preseason number one. That's right. Anything less

(01:58:23):
than a championship absolute failure, Ladies and gentlemen. It's one
o waight time. Now for a web MD updates hit
the music Maestro. Alright, Matt. They don't make good television
dramas like Er anymore, do they. They got Gray's anatomy,
don't they know.

Speaker 3 (01:58:43):
That jumped the shark like fifteen years ago? All right, Matt, Well,
actually I'm not going to web MD. I went to
the history recent history of Major league players and rib injuries. Okay,
this is what you call deep research here. We went
into the search lab for this.

Speaker 2 (01:59:01):
All right.

Speaker 3 (01:59:02):
Recently, we'll go to twenty twenty four. Cody Bellinger on
April twenty fourth, excuse me, April twenty third of that year,
crashed into the wall at Wrigley Field and broke two ribs.

Speaker 2 (01:59:16):
He was back by May seventh. So April twenty third
to May seventh, that's only a couple of weeks. That's
fourteen days that give or take. Right, that's pretty good.

Speaker 3 (01:59:27):
However, Oh, Jake Croninworth, recently with a rib injury, was
hit by a pitch on April sixth. He was activated
May ninth, so we're talking about five weeks there. Also,
Sean Murphy in spring training hit by a pitch in

(01:59:50):
the ribs on February twenty eighth. Yes, he was not activated.

Speaker 2 (01:59:56):
Until April sixth. That's about six weeks. Man. So our
previous call Ramons at seeing mid August isn't That wasn't
the craziest thing I ever heard said on this radio.
Six weeks from today is April eleventh, No, September eleventh.
I'm sorry, August eleventh. What did I say? I'm in August?

(02:00:16):
What did I say? April special a August? Let me
know what you meant? Yeah? Whatever. Six weeks from today
is August eleventh. What is my philosophy? Ross on the
ASTRA injuries and from here on out let us know
what he's active? Yep, mad good. So it could be
a couple of weeks, could be a month.

Speaker 3 (02:00:37):
Apparently, when Cody Bellinger was activated after only two weeks,
he was still he was still sore. Oh but he
cracked ribs running into the stupid brick wall. Can you
all put some padding up there? It's ridiculous, It's twenty
twenty five tradition, be damned.

Speaker 2 (02:00:55):
Nice and soft. You can put ivy over the padding instead,
will have you? Can? You can make the padding painted
like bricks? Who cares? Wait a minute, you don't you
don't mind. I don't mind once in a while a
guy getting concussed out there and left. See exactly what
if it's a Houston astro, I'm not two years. Yeah,
it's a minimal.

Speaker 3 (02:01:14):
Yeah, but the second ord On Alvarez cracks a rib
on the wall, What are you gonna be calling for padding?

Speaker 2 (02:01:20):
Ooh, that'd be quite a that'd be quite a monologue
the next day. Exactly. I'm tired of this. We deserve better.
That's exactly what I would do, not worried about it
until it happens to you. This is all right. You

(02:01:41):
want to put it, you want to put a date
down in your tomorrow, we'll do it. Okay, Well, I
guess we'll consult the physicians when he comes back. He
comes back, and we'll walk him with open arms. Sounds
like four to six weeks is what I would guess,
not four to six days, correct, Okay? All right? Seven

(02:02:02):
one three, two one two five seven ninety don't we're
not playing guess the return date, because if we'd have
had that on New Yordon Alvarez, we had have really
screwed that one up. How was this team doing it?
Fifty and thirty four and they've gotten two more players
every day. Of players and the injured listener, I don't know.

(02:02:22):
It's crazy, and half the pitching staff. Mm hmm. God
bless his team. It can be all so much sweeter
when they win the World Series in twenty twenty five.
Put your name on it. It rash. You might be there.
Can't you guess? They're eighty wins? No, he said, eighty

(02:02:43):
eight eighty eight, and I will happily take the loss.
I think Jonathan listened to a different show than we do.
Listen to the eighteen Yeah, eighty eighty eight, same thing.
Mm hmm, all right, seven one three, two, one two five,
seven ninety If you want to chime in, come on
in PNA out Astros continue to win. Jabari Smith has

(02:03:05):
a new contract and will the Rockets make a move
in the next twenty four to four hours. Sham Shania
says it's gonna be a busy time in the NBA
in the next twenty four hours. One thirteen on Sports
Talk seven, ninety one eighteen on Sports Talk seven, NINTI,
Matt and Ross with you here until two o'clock. Believe
it or not today, highly google him about dan Wayne
Lucas rip. You don't get guys named after their first

(02:03:30):
initial anymore, do you. Ross? What about d Calhoun McNair. Yeah,
but nobody calls him that. That's what I knew. Well, yeah,
that's true. Your personation of him continues to suck. You
do some good impersonations, but that one. You just that
is your opinion. Matt. By the way, did you see
the tweet I put out this weekend? The Cleveland Browns

(02:03:52):
have purchased some new land Ross. Oh, they have to
build a mega blattadium, office, restaurants, bars. Stop me if
you've heard me this before. Huh fifteen miles outside of
downtown hmm okay, and downtown Cleveland's good busy, Okay, start

(02:04:21):
it out there. I read this on Twitter.

Speaker 3 (02:04:23):
I'm not saying this is real, but somebody on Twitter
was commenting that the Texas Liverary of Arlington isn't doing
so hot, like a high turnover.

Speaker 2 (02:04:31):
That's you know what, that's interesting. I wonder if that's
true or not. I mean, it's gotta be hopping for games,
but that's well, that's eighty ass, that's eighty Ranger games
and ten Cowboy games. It's only ninety nights, you know,
I don't know how many people that live in DFW
run to Arlington to go hang out on non game nights.

(02:04:52):
Probably not a lot. Not there much else to do
in Arlington though, Oh yeah, I mean you got pawn
shops and you can go to rapple res and do stuff.
I got to book a reservation at the Rapparee. So
crowded it's like the place do go. Yeah, okay, So
if I let me throws real quick at you and
go the phones. If I told you that energy was

(02:05:14):
off limits, the textans said, no way, know how. We
don't want to refurbish. We want to build our own
palace and ross you were you were to whisper into
Hannah's ear, hmm, where would you tell him to build,
to spend the money to build the property.

Speaker 3 (02:05:36):
I don't know what's if you want. I don't know
it's safe. Downtown is not safe. I don't feel like
I have assurances that Katie would be safe or sugar Land. Ummm,
let's just do Kate.

Speaker 2 (02:05:52):
See if I got it Northwest Mall, that wouldn't be
enough real estate, right, I don't think so m to
congested over there too? We would you go next to
Smart financial. Is there even enough land over there? I
know there's a I don't go there very offense. I
don't know. Uh, well, where's the population. What's the population

(02:06:17):
of Katie populately? Well, you could do Katie's sugar Land.
You're looking at about what a million and a half
over there altogether? Maybe. Yeah, Cyprus is an area there's
it's really growing fast. But that's really far outside of
the city limits. That's almost like too far. Greater Greater

(02:06:42):
Katie according to Google, says three hundred and forty thousand.
But sugar Land's gotta be a mill, right, That's all
I was putting two together. Yeah, man, this is this
is a very difficult decision for the organization, because you're
gonna be You're gonna you're gonna get some group of
the city mad at you for being too far. I

(02:07:06):
just don't know if refurbish unless they could live with
just a refurbished stadium and not worry about the other stuff.
But that other stuff is what these other cities, these
other teams are getting, and they want that. What you
want what you get are two different things. I will
say refurbishment is still my I would say the leader
in the clubhouse to me without knowing much of anything. Yeah,

(02:07:30):
if they can live with just a better stadium with
all the bells and whistles that the other NFL cities
are getting, that'd be fine. But I don't know if
they if they're looking for additional things to create revenue
outside of the stadium itself, because again, even if you
order refurbish NRG, it's still going to be get in,

(02:07:51):
watch the game, and go home. I think here is
the best chance for these places. You could well the
best The best thing for these other cities have been
get there at eight o'clock in the morning and leave
it at eight o'clock at night.

Speaker 3 (02:08:07):
I mean, you'd have to really invest in that area.
How much would it cost to actually invest in that
area relative to actually relocating somewhere and investing there. I
don't know, because I think your best shot would be
staying in the city. Well you would think. My thought

(02:08:27):
is you go where the population is.

Speaker 2 (02:08:29):
Population to Houston six million, but not all six million
are I get who does the most moving around, Who
who spends more time outside of their community? Who would
be willing to make that drive?

Speaker 3 (02:08:46):
I mean, I think I think going to one of
the satellite suburbs isn't better than staying in the city.
I just think Houston's just not really built for that
type of entertainment district.

Speaker 2 (02:08:58):
I guess it is just so they're saying, it's just yeah,
you're saying, it's just build, fix up energy. It's already there.
It's already, it's already in the in the ground. It's already.
It wouldn't take as much to build that fix that
up as you would be building the two to three
billion dollars for a new facility with all the stuff
around it. Yeah, how much would guarantee that if you

(02:09:19):
build stuff around it people would go there on non
game days? Yeah, you got no guarantee going as sugar
Land or Katie like friend. I'll give you an example
town and Country. That area is really booming Energy Corridor area.
I mean lots of restaurants popping up, lots of places
to live, apartments, houses. I was just there two weeks ago,

(02:09:40):
and I was stunned at how progressive that area town is. Yeah,
but if you're building it just to build the stadium,
that's one thing. But if you're trying to build a
megaplex around it, then that would be a separate animal.

Speaker 3 (02:09:55):
Yea, I mean energy doesn't seem like it's in that
bad if they if they wanted to build it up,
You're not far from the Med Center, You're not far
from West U or Bill Air.

Speaker 2 (02:10:05):
But maybe that's what they thought to begin with. Yeah,
but they But what do they do besides I mean,
they didn't build up any restaurants or anything. No. No,
you'd have to find a group. You'd have to find
a real estate group that'd be willing to invest in
that area, right, you'd have to. You couldn't half asset
if they really wanted to invest in they I think
it could work. Yeah, yeah, I don't know. We'll see.

(02:10:27):
Let me get a quick call in from kJ with
us at one twenty five on seven on High came
a kJ, what's going.

Speaker 7 (02:10:32):
On Little Fellas? As usually love to show man, I
got a couple of quid takes. Man, I'm gonna sit
back and say, get your guys's opinion on it. But
the fact that obviously the Astros are in a bad
situation with.

Speaker 2 (02:10:45):
The injury bug this season. I also look at the
fact that.

Speaker 7 (02:10:48):
Were I think we over teamed to some degree, well
up to a large degree in regards to the picture staff, however,
a team they have with these young guys when we
get the air and game and the Garcias and the J. P.
Francis and the hobbyists back, if just two of those
guys are able to be the pictures they were before

(02:11:08):
they were hurt and I mean, you know, meant to
you know, meant to hide three E r A. What
do you guys think the chances are of them trading
offul a couple of those pictures to potentially get some
bats over here, whether it be a young up and
coming already established Major league or somebody somebody from a pharmacist.

(02:11:29):
See if we can catch another camp Smith in the bottle.
And my second question, I've been hearing a lot about
potential another potential move with the Rockets involved me camp
with More. I'm not a big fan of it. I'm
a big camp with More supporter been behind him in
the day one. I understand he has some issues with Judoka,

(02:11:50):
but I do see that dog in him that we
as a team embraced on the court, and obviously his
scoring ability is second or none. I easily see him
sliding into that road of Kevin Durant after a couple
of years when Kevin Durant is no longer with the team.
So I'm want to ask you, Matt, since you have
a strong thumb on the pulse and regards to the rockets,
what are you hearing about Ken Widmore? And I want

(02:12:11):
to hear what you guys say about my ass do
take let us show Timy and some other time fellas.

Speaker 2 (02:12:15):
Thanks Keje, We'll got a quick time out get those
responses back. One on did he ask moving a picture
to get a hitter? Is that what he is? Yeah?
I mean if if you have Javier Garcia, Arraghetty coming back,
and then you've got mccullors, Brown Valdez and then you
go with Gusto Walter, who am I forgetting Golden Gordon?
That's no use. If you just brought up have zero

(02:12:38):
trade value until next year. You can't treat Luis Garcia,
you can't trade Christian Hovey are you? And they need
to get back on they need to get back on
the resume. Well he asked the question on me. Yeah,
j So the answer is no, you don't have a
single picture with exception of single pictures, I should say

(02:12:58):
among your starters that to have any trade value except
for uh my Proper Valdez and Hunter Brown. You couldn't
trade mccollors. You couldn't Trake Walter, you couldn't trade Gordon,
you couldn't trade No. Nobody else in the starting five
has any rate that was part of the package. It

(02:13:18):
could be, but yeah, I think the only player that
you have any trade value in your lineup to get
a left handed bat would probably be your center fielder. Well,
if you get Seti Mullins and a second baseman, just saying,
is that what called him? SETI? Yeah, that's what I
call him? Or said, can I call him Mules? Mulley

(02:13:41):
trying well answer that Cam went More question when come
back one twenty eight Sports Talk seven ninety believe it
or not? Coming up in the twenty minutes from now
right real quick to answer Kj's thought, Uh, there's roster's
too much smoke out there. I think Cam went War
is being shopped. I mean, I don't Rafel's and texting
me this, but it's just there's too much. Names just

(02:14:05):
don't get thrown out there. If you love a player,
you don't hear him in Thompson rumors, you don't hear
our opera in Chigin rumors, you don't hear Tari easton rumors.

Speaker 3 (02:14:16):
I I wonder, you know, Rafel's don't Emadoka always have
to collaborate, right, and then they might have different opinions
on certain things and whatever. I wonder how Raffel feels
about him, because we kind of know how coach Udoka
feels about cab whitmore. He doesn't like putting him out there.

Speaker 2 (02:14:38):
Yeah, And it's not he didn't do anything in particular.
There's just there's gonna be some behind the scenes stuff
and that I'm we're not privy to. And you know, again,
I don't know if it's because if it's it shoot
first and everything else is a distance second, if it's
he doesn't practice well, I mean whatever, whatever. For the

(02:15:00):
reason why he didn't hit rotation time didn't necessarily get
out a whole lot, right, I mean, it wasn't like
it was a storyline that troubled people. When you're winning
fifty two games a year and you're watching him men
Thompson and Fred van Vliet and Opraham become an all star.
If your tenth or eleventh guy and your team is
kind of a sgruntled. That's not out of the ordinary

(02:15:20):
and not necessarily going to ruin a basketball team. And
so even if Cam was the worst teammate possible and
never never became such a problem that it affected team chemistry, Yeah,
I mean, if, like you said, guys at the end
of the bench are just scrubled anyways, maybe he wears
his heart on his sleeve a little bit more than others,
and you can kind of tell with the body language
and the way that he acts that he's not happy.

(02:15:41):
And I mean he's at the end of the bench
and he's making three and a half million dollars a year.
You got him with the twentieth pick. He slid you.

Speaker 3 (02:15:48):
You were hoping to get kind of a sleeper pick there,
and so far a couple of years in it's he's
been okay.

Speaker 2 (02:15:56):
Yeah, I mean I can see why there are some
Cam wentmore fans. And let me tell you something, there
have been times granted on not a lot of them.
Then you'll put up twelve points in four minutes, and
I'm like, damn, this guy can do it quick. Yeah.
Per thirty six is pretty good. His per thirty six
is like Bulban per thirty six. Maybe even better. But

(02:16:17):
you know my drift, I mean, I just I don't
think it's there's gotta be reasons why. There gotta be
reasons why he didn't get hit cracked the rotation, and
there's certainly reasons why that his name is being brought
up in trade conversation. I think it would be mostly
defense and also just kind of playing more under control

(02:16:38):
and for the team rather than just trying to get
as many shots up as possible. Yeah, and look, the
Rockets would Ross would have metrics on this that we
wouldn't have minutes that actually meant a damn because let's
face it, Kim played in some games that were blowouts
or games that didn't mean anything. Well, remember those last
three games didn't count. Remember in theory because the Rockets

(02:16:58):
already had locked U I secured the number two spot
in the West. You know, I don't have any relationship
with him, don't need to. I'm calling his games. I
wish him well, and there are spots that I go, man,
this guy he's got terrific athleticism and can shoot. But
there was remember that first month of the year, Ross,

(02:17:19):
he couldn't find the three ball to save his life. Yeah,
he turned, he turned things around, He shout. He shot
around thirty five percent from three, which is which is
good compared to where it was, below league average, but
better than what it was. Yeah, so yeah, I would
say that. My guess is, if are Fells on the
phone today, Cam Moore's name is being brought up because

(02:17:40):
if Cam goes somewhere else and he can get into
the front of the rotation, there's no reason why Cam
can't score twenty points a game. Now the question is
going to be, does Cam went More do it on
twenty points a game based off of thirteen shots per
game or did he do off of twenty four shots
per game? Yeah? He can, Yeah, there's no doubt.

Speaker 3 (02:17:56):
Look, there's no doubt in my mind he could score
twenty a game somewhere on a bad team, right, But
I don't know.

Speaker 2 (02:18:01):
Look, well I've done some Charlotte games. He can. He
can go to Charlotte and fill that bad boy up quick. Yeah.
Well you know they got what Brandon Miller and you
can go to to the ball, go to Ross can
go to Washington and replace Corey Kisberg, or like, who
the hell is Corey Kisburg. Trey Johnson's ready to dominate
Longhorn legend. You're gonna want my tickets for that Washington game,

(02:18:22):
aren't you.

Speaker 3 (02:18:23):
I think they'll be very readily available. What's the waiting
list for the Whiz game?

Speaker 2 (02:18:29):
You mean for the people of Washington or people to
used to see in both? Yeah, that's right. By the way.
Official shout out to Texas State University. The Bobcats are
now officially members of the new PAC twelve that begins
July one, twenty twenty six. Congratulations to them. The schools now,
you have to have eight to play football, and that's
the reason why Texas State became so appealing. The eight

(02:18:52):
football participants in Boise State, Colorado State, Fresno State, Gonzaga,
Oregon State, San Diego State, Texas State, Utah State, and
Washington State. How many states do they have and the
one non football playing school is Gonzaga? How many states
do they have that are not states? One? Two, three

(02:19:14):
is not a state, Resno is not a state's San
Diego's not a state. I never quite thought of it
that way, but I gets you have a point there.
The MAS is a mountain Western friends, right, that's what
the conference should be called. It's not the Pac twelve.
It's the whack two point zero and that's actually not
a bad call either. Good luck getting fans some other

(02:19:39):
schools that come to your games and vice versa. How
many Boise State fans are gonna be at the Texas
State game? Handful three? Well, they're not easy to get
to Washington State, hard, to get to Utah State, hard
to get to Texa State's not bad because you can
fly to San Antonio or Austin. San Diego State's easy,
Oregon State hard, Fresno, Colorado State's Denver in a drive.

(02:20:03):
Boise's you know, a long plane ride away plus change
what a conference alp Those athletic budgeter couldn't handle.

Speaker 3 (02:20:11):
That travel Farewell, did you see they they signed a
deal with I can't even remember who it was, Fox
or CBS or whoever. And it's very rare that they
don't disclose the amount of the deal.

Speaker 2 (02:20:22):
And they did not ooh meaning a pat in the
back of an atta boy, meaning like five dollars deal.
That's well, the reality is I did see the TV package.
They're getting three games a year on CBS three yeah,
the whole season. Well, you can get like twenty five
on CBS Sports Network. Oh wait, CBS, let me tell

(02:20:43):
you I would do those games. I would do the
Pac twelve games. The rest of the games are gonna
be on Paramount Plus. Well, then come on a paaramunt
plus has its value. That's where. So that's where that
Yellowstone show was.

Speaker 3 (02:20:54):
I gonna go catch Yellowstone and that that movie with
some That show was some ester Stallone.

Speaker 2 (02:21:02):
Isn't where Paramount plus has. Bar Rescue? Is that true?
John Taffan is gonna be on the John Taffa is
gonna be on the Color Can I tell you I
love Bar Rescue a lot. I liked a big fan.

Speaker 3 (02:21:15):
Yeah, but every episode is kind of the same, that's true,
little redundant. Oh yeah, so, I mean I I definitely
liked watching it for a while, but I haven't watched
it in some years.

Speaker 2 (02:21:24):
So he's got a lot of Gordon Ramsey and him.
He goes in there and destroys them. He insults them like,
you would do this to your wife, you would do
this to your kids, you would do it to these employees.
What kind of scum are you? Right? And then he
and then he just destroys it and then then he

(02:21:45):
builds him a brand new bar you know there's a
bar Rescue bar in Kingwood. Oh really, yes, did you go? No?
But I need to go. They clear out the roaches.
They probably did more than that. They probably did more
than that. It's at four ninety four and fifty nine

(02:22:09):
and it has a it's a pizza oven and like
a like a little tap to the far. They got
a website called bar Rescue Updates. You can check on them.
You know, I watched the bar Rescue show just to
see what the updates are at the end of the show,
to see if these places make it alive. Yeah. I
probably have watched twenty five bar rescues in the last

(02:22:29):
two weeks, and I think all but one have been okay.
Oh wow they did h Okay, they did some places
in Houston. Then I'm not gonna plug. Are they doing
okay or no? I guess so. Managine if somebody came
into your house and said, this house is disgusting. You

(02:22:51):
need to fix. You need to get rid of this carpet,
you need to get some new appliances. You your wife
hates you, your kids don't want to live here and
bring their friends over. Okay, fine, come in here and
fix my house up. Yeah, most of these places are
still open. Good job, John Taffer. Yeah, let's not get
any plugs. No, I'm not all right. A highly Google Bowl,

(02:23:13):
believe it or not, is up next. It's about all
things d Wayne Lucas related. You're like, who is de
Wayne Lucas? He is I would have to say, one
of the greatest horse trainers ever in the business. He's
certainly on my Mount Rushmore. Matt Who else on the
Mount Rushmore? Bob Baffert and continue on. Larry Wilkinson, Larry Wilkinson.

(02:23:37):
Larry Wilkinson trained Ali Sheba. Believe it or not? Yeah,
believe it no, Larry Wilkinson, Okay, and my fourth one,
of course, is Maurice Miller. Those are the four, Yeah,
nicknamed the Prince, the Prince of Miller. Yeah, all right.
De Wayne Lucas passing away over the weekend. I believe

(02:23:58):
age eighty nine. It's a good run, great run. I'll
take you eight nine years, believe it or not. It's
up next, d Wayne Lucas Google ble related next here
on Sports Talk seven ninety fibal segment on this Monday,
Ross and I with you all week until Thursday, and
then Ross will carry the four hour infomercial together for

(02:24:21):
you with a variety of friends. I'm assuming, right, yeah, sure,
why not? All right? And then Friday we will all
get our rest. It's July fourth. And then Saturday it'll
be game two of three game series with the Dodgers,
and I'll he be on deck sure for you there
tomorrow and the show we'll have Joe spoted from Denver.
We'll also have gut feelings and can I make a

(02:24:45):
pre Tuesday gut feeling? You want to write it down?
Writing down, remind you tomorrow. Okay, the Rockets will have
a new player by tomorrow. Ooh, look at Matt with
the inside info. I could be wrong. Please help me
tomorrow I'm wrong. Okay, Well we will yeah, uh works,

(02:25:08):
knows how the show works. It's only taking me fro Rockets.
Hold on, I put Rickets, Rockets, the Rickets. Yeah, huh
yeah by tomorrow, Rockets of a new player. Okay, so
by the end of Tuesday. By the end of Tuesday,
I don't want to get in early, just in case
it hits. If it hits tonight, that I can really

(02:25:29):
felt brag about it. All right, five minutes left to
go on the show. What should we do? We should
play Merricka's fastest growing sports radio game show. We simply
call it be Believe It or Not. And here's how
it works. Should call seven one three two one two
five seven ninety seven one three two one two five

(02:25:51):
seven ninety Today's edition to Believe or Not is highly googleable.
It's did d Wayne Lucas train a horse? Name this?
If he did, you'll say this believe it? If I
made the horse's name up, you'll say this not to
believe it or not? Say making horse names? Yeah? I did.

(02:26:15):
That's pretty funny. I love some of my favorite all
time ones I've done here. So if I made the
horse name up, you'll say not to believe or not
to the row win You're prize what we are playing
for today, Jonathan.

Speaker 4 (02:26:26):
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Speaker 2 (02:26:41):
All right, so Viannet's did d Wayne Lucas train this horse.
Believe it or not? Paul on seven ninety Paul, you're
ready to play believe it or not? I believe it,
my bestie, believe it or not not? That is correct.
Name number two for the Wind a plate Believe it
or not believe it? No, I made that one. Um, sorry,

(02:27:06):
my come on, man, come on, I'm trying to keep seriously.
Brian on sevenintie, Brian, what was your favorite part of
today's tend to two radio show? Oh? Every show's worthy
of a Marconi, sir, thank you, criminal type. Believe it

(02:27:31):
or not not? Bell, Yeah, it was the nineteen ninety
horse of the Year. Duh. Ken on seven ninety Ken,
you're ready to play Believe it or not?

Speaker 7 (02:27:44):
Believe it?

Speaker 2 (02:27:46):
Down, goes Fraser. Believe it or not not? That is correct.
That's the name of the horse that I want to
own someday. Name number two for the wind Pittsburgh Freedom,
Believe it or not believe it? No, I made that one.
I'm sorry. Sean on seven ninety Sewn, you're ready to

(02:28:11):
play Believe it or not? I believe it. Thunder Gulch
Believe it or not Believe it? Now, that's a former
Premus winner. Name number two for the win. Fourth time's
the charm Believe it or not not? That is correct?
We finally every winner. I made that one up. Nicely done, correct,

(02:28:38):
Matt on seven ninety Matt, what was your favorite part
of today's ten to two radio show? The whole thing?
Matt Sabasco cat Believe it or not? Believe it? That
is correct. Nineteen ninety four Belmont name number two for
the win, secret Oath, Believe it or not not? He

(02:29:00):
won the twenty twenty two Kentucky Oaks Last one. Filipe
On seven, Nintie Felipe, You're ready to play Believe it
or not? Believe it and all that jazz. Believe it
or not not? No one ross. This is never gonna

(02:29:21):
be a entire topic. If this person, if this horse
is real.

Speaker 3 (02:29:24):
We could just do real horse. And we've done it before.
I think Kentucky Derby winner, We're gonna do it again.
Anything horse or letting. From here on out, it's gonna
be about horses and make them names. You'll be keeping
an eye out of dead jockeys and dead horse trainers
all over there.

Speaker 2 (02:29:36):
Correct, any excuse, any excuse to do it? I believe
or not, I'll do it all right. Hey, everybody, have
a great rest of your day. Wish are Moco Junior
is the very best of success in their upcoming matches. Tonight,
Ross and He'll be there for all the club by
playing color analysis. Yeah, I'll be watching on stream. Is
available for six and eight. Check it out. Up next

(02:29:58):
Wexler and Friends, Wexer Solo, Wexer and Ross that matter,
it's the team. Talk to you tomorrow at ten here
on Sports Talk seven ninety
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