Brian Bogusevic Joins After Pena & Alvarez News, Giving His Insight On How The Astros Are Still Moving Forward
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Speaker 1 (00:00):
All right, let's not waste Brian Bogus the next time anymore.
Speaker 2 (00:03):
Any more that we normally knew.
Speaker 1 (00:05):
Yeah, He's like, well, I really have to keep doing
this bogie. Good morning, your squad. It's seventeen games above
five hundred. Cam Smith and Victor Carrottini are making our
Hall of Fame bat flips. Do you agree or disagree?
Based on what they've done the last week or so?
Speaker 2 (00:21):
Uh, I would call them hall of Fame batslips. I
think I think they're good. There's definitely better more iconic
batslips out there. I mean, you can go back in time.
Ken Griffey Jr. Is probably the most iconic from what
I can think of when I was kidding, I mean,
you know what, I'm partial to remember the Kyle Tucker
reverse pivot out of the batter's box and slip it
to the dug out. I like that one.
Speaker 1 (00:41):
Nice. Were you a bunch of a bat flipper back
in the day.
Speaker 2 (00:46):
No, I didn't hit enough home runs to be a
bat flipper. That would be frowned upon.
Speaker 1 (00:50):
Yeah, probably so. All right, Well, obviously a lot of
the conversation among the Astro fan base is about your
downe situation and obviously Jeremy situation. And look, you're not
a doctor RLA of the two of us, but just
when you're hearing these things, the first thing is get
well soon for both of them. And second of all,
I would think, from a purely baseball perspective, which we
bring you on for, you're thinking about, how do the
(01:12):
Astros continue to play this well despite two Keith cogs.
One's been gone for a long time and one just
missed the last weekend and probably gonna miss some more time.
Speaker 2 (01:22):
Yeah. I mean before our show yesterday, I was just
sitting around and I was drawing up a lineup of
the guys that are on the injury list for the
Astros right now. And it's really striking the amount of
talent both sides of the ball that are unavailable. So
how they continue to win, I don't know. They just
figured it out, and it's you know a lot of
(01:44):
guys picking up slack offensively. You know, it's victory yesterday,
it's Cam Smith another day, it's going to be l
Tuve one day. You know, they just kind of do that.
What the pitching has done is incredible. I mean, Hunter
and Fromber you talk about what aces do. I mean,
it's it's above and beyond. It's every time they go
(02:04):
out there just absolutely you know, unhittable, and the depth
that they keep showing it's crazy. But you know, at
some point you have to imagine that there's going to
be a breaking point, right at some point you just
lose too much, or the guys where they're picking up
the slack get into a funk or something. You know,
at some point the injuries have to stop piling up
(02:24):
and you got to start getting some guys healthy, which
you know, we don't really know when that's going to
be at this time.
Speaker 1 (02:32):
East sac Pardes has been leading off the last handful
of days. We asked this to Joe A. Spotta yesterday
and he's going to continue to put him in there
for the foreseeable future. But when you were drawing up
the twenty six man rostering, even with guys being hurt,
I don't think Brian that East sach Pretties on the
in the leadoff spot was necessarily on anybody's Bengo card
over the course of the year.
Speaker 2 (02:52):
No. I mean, it's not the prototypical burner that you
would think of up at the top. But you know,
really what they've done. It's gotten to a point now
with so many people being out and still trying to
kind of piece together the bottom third of a lineup
on any given day. It's not necessarily about ideal lineup
construction of who's the best fit at leadoff, who's going
(03:15):
to be our prototypical three hole hitter or cleanup hitter.
It's just let's take the guys who are swinging it well,
you know whatever, three, four or five of those guys
on any given day, and let's just bunch them together
at the top and then hopefully we can play matchups
at the bottom or pick the right guys based on
how we feel about their swing right now in the
bottom half and have that carryover, because there is no
(03:38):
right solution when you're down this many guys. There's not
many people. There's just not enough guys who fit that
prototypical role of whatever spot you're looking for. So let's
just take the best guys, try to get them the
most at bat, and hopefully the guys at the bottom
can put some runners on base for them, and you know,
with what the pitching staff has been doing, let's scratch
(03:59):
across a couple of run and hope it's enough.
Speaker 3 (04:01):
I want to talk about the Jeremy Payne injury real quick.
Have you ever had a rib situation like that? And
what's the recovery like as far as how much of
it's pain management and how of it is wanting to
be one hundred percent healed, And especially for someone like
Jeremy Pene, who's not only it's about swinging the bat,
but I mean, if you're a shortstop, you've got to
be diving all around the field as well.
Speaker 2 (04:23):
Yeah, so I've not done a rib. I've been fortunate enough.
I've never had a major like core oblique type of
thing either. But that being said, I mean I've had
sowordness in there in those areas, and everything you do
in baseball is affected by that area. And I'm not
just talking about swinging throwing. That's obviously rotational stuff, but
(04:45):
you know the idea of keeping your body under control
to go down and feel the ground ball, you've got
to have a lot of core strength. You know, running
back on a fly ball and trying to keep your
eyes focused on the ball up above your head requires
a lot of core strength. So everything you do that
part of your body is engaged so if if you
don't have enough strength to do it, if you're sore
(05:06):
in there, it's going to be affected. And you know
you don't want to hear this. But fortunately we're at
a place where you know you're only halfway through the season,
you do have a decent lead. You just give it time,
and you know there's nothing you can do with a
broken rib like that. You know you can't tape it up,
you can't you know, compress it or whatever. You just
got to sit there and let it heal. And that
(05:27):
takes time, and you know, hopefully they can get by
for however long it is, and hopefully you know a
young guy who's in as good as shape as pain,
and hopefully he's a quick dealer.
Speaker 3 (05:38):
Brian bogas Sevic with us here on a Sports Talk
seven ninety I had to apologize to you, Brian. A
couple of weeks ago, I shorted your call your cores
fuels numbers for twenty three with one again for three
with a one point ops.
Speaker 2 (05:52):
Ooh, hey the I don't remember who it was, but
I can imagine they must not have been throwing some
very good pictures out in Colorado those.
Speaker 3 (06:00):
So three hits for a Christian Walker in coursefield. Seems
like he likes it as well. Is that ever like
something that entered your mind or you know, the player's mind. Hey, hey,
I do pretty well in this ballpark because it seems
like it's working for Christian Walker, at least one game in.
Speaker 2 (06:14):
I've never come across anybody that doesn't like hitting in
that ballpark. But he's also a guy, he's spent a
ton of time in that division. He knows those pitchers,
He's very comfortable hitting there, so it's not surprising that
he has a comfort level. Also, what I noticed about
his hits yesterday, Number one, they were all on fastballs.
Number two, he was really doing a good job staying
(06:35):
inside of him. He wasn't trying to come around and
pull any of those pitches. And the other thing most
importantly maybe is that where they were located. They were
middle to down in the strike zone. He wasn't trying
to get up on top of those fastballs at the
top of the zone. I Mean, he said it himself
after games talking about you know that that fastball at
the top, there's one of two ways that you can
do it. You learn how to hit it or you
(06:55):
learn how to not swing at it, and if he's
going to make a concerted effort to lay off of
that pitch and get it down into the strike, it's
just an easier pitch, and even high velocity, it's just
easier to drop the head of the bat on a
pitch down at your size than opposed to up at
your letters. So you know, maybe that's something that can
get him going a little bit, is getting on those
fastballs boogie.
Speaker 1 (07:17):
When you've been around players that say, oh, I love
going to this stadium and hitting or I don't like
hitting this place. Were you one of those kind of
guys that said, you know what, I don't want going
to Philadelphia? I didn't enjoy playing it rigly because I
remember one of my all time favorite astros is Lance Berkman,
and talk about it at nauseum how much he hated
playing in San Francisco. And the reason why I bring
(07:38):
this up is, can some guys talk themselves out of
having productive series on the road when they are already
going having a bad feeling about the venue they're about
to play in.
Speaker 2 (07:48):
Oh? Absolutely, I mean it's the same as how you
feel about your swing on a given day, right, whether
whether you're feeling good or bad, your swing's really not
that far off. In confidence A lot of times will
be the tipping point of if you're going to go
out there and feel like you're going to have a
good day or a bad day, and how comfortable you
are with your settings, whether it's you know, a backdrop
(08:09):
at a certain place, or the shadows in the afternoon
at Wrigley Field, or the cold wind blowing in in
San Francisco, whatever it is. If you go into a
game with the mindset that I don't like hitting in
this place, I don't feel comfortable here, I don't match
up well against the pitchers, whatever it is, it definitely
is going to affect you. And it works the other
way too, when you go into a place like Colorado
(08:31):
and most guys feel like, not only does the ball fly,
but it's a gigantic outfield, there's hits everywhere, and it's
just a great place to end.
Speaker 1 (08:39):
Farlot's your run. And I brought this up with a
game with Joe, and I want to get your thoughts
on it as well. You've got some pictures that, frankly,
probably a month or two ago. We're just lucky to
be on a major league roster. Now they're helping this
team put together the second best record in the American League.
They're about to get into the last half of the season.
Games will mean some more chance for the playoffs and whatnot.
(09:01):
And is this the same situation as a position player,
meaning that it's fun to be on a major league team,
But what's it like for a young player who just
fought his way on to be good and to stay
on this team knowing that Colton Gordon, for example, Okay, Culton,
we thank you for your service, and now we need
you to go six innings when you can. I mean,
how much more pressure does a young first year player
(09:23):
or a guy that has had little major league experience
fight through the times of This is the most I've pitched.
It's the most high leverage games I've ever been part
of in my major league career.
Speaker 2 (09:33):
You know, I think if a guy was good enough
to get there but not welcoming of a challenge like that,
I think a lot of those guys probably would have
been weeded out along the way. It doesn't mean everybody's
always going to be successful in those situations, but I
don't know that you know, a guy could be competitive
enough to get through the minor leagues, especially with a
(09:55):
lot of these guys at the askers have brought up.
These are not high draft picks. These are guys who
had to produce from day one just to stay on
minor league rosters. So these guys have been fighting for
their lives for most of their professional careers. I don't
think that any of these guys would come up and
not want to be somebody who could be pitched, who
could be pushed, you know, third times through the order,
(10:15):
up to one hundred pitches, go out there and face
the middle of the order again. I think they welcome
those things. And one of the things that breeds that
success as well is that, you know the Astros minor
league system, if you look, you know over the past,
you know recent history, they win a lot in the
minor leagues. You know, they those guys all won a
championship in Triple A last year. And that's certainly not
(10:37):
the same as doing it at the major league level.
But there are stakes. They're not guys who are just
out there pitching for their era and hoping somebody gets
hurt in the big league so they can get called up.
These are guys who have been in situations where they're
pitching two win games, and there are things, you know,
other than run prevention that go along with being a
part of a winning team and a winning pitching staff.
(10:58):
And I think we've already seen some of the signs
that they that they're able to handle that, and I
think the more that gets thrown on their plate, I
think they'll be able to handle it too.
Speaker 1 (11:07):
Bogie, great work as always, Thank you for the visit.
As always, as always, we'll talk in.
Speaker 2 (11:10):
Next week, all right, Thanks that still you got it.
Speaker 1 (11:13):
Brian Bogas Sivic with us here another Matt Thomas Shelwood
Ross appreciate his perspective. Very Wednesday with us at eleven
o'clock
All right, let's not waste Brian Bogus the next time anymore.
Speaker 2 (00:03):
Any more that we normally knew.
Speaker 1 (00:05):
Yeah, He's like, well, I really have to keep doing
this bogie. Good morning, your squad. It's seventeen games above
five hundred. Cam Smith and Victor Carrottini are making our
Hall of Fame bat flips. Do you agree or disagree?
Based on what they've done the last week or so?
Speaker 2 (00:21):
Uh, I would call them hall of Fame batslips. I
think I think they're good. There's definitely better more iconic
batslips out there. I mean, you can go back in time.
Ken Griffey Jr. Is probably the most iconic from what
I can think of when I was kidding, I mean,
you know what, I'm partial to remember the Kyle Tucker
reverse pivot out of the batter's box and slip it
to the dug out. I like that one.
Speaker 1 (00:41):
Nice. Were you a bunch of a bat flipper back
in the day.
Speaker 2 (00:46):
No, I didn't hit enough home runs to be a
bat flipper. That would be frowned upon.
Speaker 1 (00:50):
Yeah, probably so. All right, Well, obviously a lot of
the conversation among the Astro fan base is about your
downe situation and obviously Jeremy situation. And look, you're not
a doctor RLA of the two of us, but just
when you're hearing these things, the first thing is get
well soon for both of them. And second of all,
I would think, from a purely baseball perspective, which we
bring you on for, you're thinking about, how do the
(01:12):
Astros continue to play this well despite two Keith cogs.
One's been gone for a long time and one just
missed the last weekend and probably gonna miss some more time.
Speaker 2 (01:22):
Yeah. I mean before our show yesterday, I was just
sitting around and I was drawing up a lineup of
the guys that are on the injury list for the
Astros right now. And it's really striking the amount of
talent both sides of the ball that are unavailable. So
how they continue to win, I don't know. They just
figured it out, and it's you know a lot of
(01:44):
guys picking up slack offensively. You know, it's victory yesterday,
it's Cam Smith another day, it's going to be l
Tuve one day. You know, they just kind of do that.
What the pitching has done is incredible. I mean, Hunter
and Fromber you talk about what aces do. I mean,
it's it's above and beyond. It's every time they go
(02:04):
out there just absolutely you know, unhittable, and the depth
that they keep showing it's crazy. But you know, at
some point you have to imagine that there's going to
be a breaking point, right at some point you just
lose too much, or the guys where they're picking up
the slack get into a funk or something. You know,
at some point the injuries have to stop piling up
(02:24):
and you got to start getting some guys healthy, which
you know, we don't really know when that's going to
be at this time.
Speaker 1 (02:32):
East sac Pardes has been leading off the last handful
of days. We asked this to Joe A. Spotta yesterday
and he's going to continue to put him in there
for the foreseeable future. But when you were drawing up
the twenty six man rostering, even with guys being hurt,
I don't think Brian that East sach Pretties on the
in the leadoff spot was necessarily on anybody's Bengo card
over the course of the year.
Speaker 2 (02:52):
No. I mean, it's not the prototypical burner that you
would think of up at the top. But you know,
really what they've done. It's gotten to a point now
with so many people being out and still trying to
kind of piece together the bottom third of a lineup
on any given day. It's not necessarily about ideal lineup
construction of who's the best fit at leadoff, who's going
(03:15):
to be our prototypical three hole hitter or cleanup hitter.
It's just let's take the guys who are swinging it well,
you know whatever, three, four or five of those guys
on any given day, and let's just bunch them together
at the top and then hopefully we can play matchups
at the bottom or pick the right guys based on
how we feel about their swing right now in the
bottom half and have that carryover, because there is no
(03:38):
right solution when you're down this many guys. There's not
many people. There's just not enough guys who fit that
prototypical role of whatever spot you're looking for. So let's
just take the best guys, try to get them the
most at bat, and hopefully the guys at the bottom
can put some runners on base for them, and you know,
with what the pitching staff has been doing, let's scratch
(03:59):
across a couple of run and hope it's enough.
Speaker 3 (04:01):
I want to talk about the Jeremy Payne injury real quick.
Have you ever had a rib situation like that? And
what's the recovery like as far as how much of
it's pain management and how of it is wanting to
be one hundred percent healed, And especially for someone like
Jeremy Pene, who's not only it's about swinging the bat,
but I mean, if you're a shortstop, you've got to
be diving all around the field as well.
Speaker 2 (04:23):
Yeah, so I've not done a rib. I've been fortunate enough.
I've never had a major like core oblique type of
thing either. But that being said, I mean I've had
sowordness in there in those areas, and everything you do
in baseball is affected by that area. And I'm not
just talking about swinging throwing. That's obviously rotational stuff, but
(04:45):
you know the idea of keeping your body under control
to go down and feel the ground ball, you've got
to have a lot of core strength. You know, running
back on a fly ball and trying to keep your
eyes focused on the ball up above your head requires
a lot of core strength. So everything you do that
part of your body is engaged so if if you
don't have enough strength to do it, if you're sore
(05:06):
in there, it's going to be affected. And you know
you don't want to hear this. But fortunately we're at
a place where you know you're only halfway through the season,
you do have a decent lead. You just give it time,
and you know there's nothing you can do with a
broken rib like that. You know you can't tape it up,
you can't you know, compress it or whatever. You just
got to sit there and let it heal. And that
(05:27):
takes time, and you know, hopefully they can get by
for however long it is, and hopefully you know a
young guy who's in as good as shape as pain,
and hopefully he's a quick dealer.
Speaker 3 (05:38):
Brian bogas Sevic with us here on a Sports Talk
seven ninety I had to apologize to you, Brian. A
couple of weeks ago, I shorted your call your cores
fuels numbers for twenty three with one again for three
with a one point ops.
Speaker 2 (05:52):
Ooh, hey the I don't remember who it was, but
I can imagine they must not have been throwing some
very good pictures out in Colorado those.
Speaker 3 (06:00):
So three hits for a Christian Walker in coursefield. Seems
like he likes it as well. Is that ever like
something that entered your mind or you know, the player's mind. Hey, hey,
I do pretty well in this ballpark because it seems
like it's working for Christian Walker, at least one game in.
Speaker 2 (06:14):
I've never come across anybody that doesn't like hitting in
that ballpark. But he's also a guy, he's spent a
ton of time in that division. He knows those pitchers,
He's very comfortable hitting there, so it's not surprising that
he has a comfort level. Also, what I noticed about
his hits yesterday, Number one, they were all on fastballs.
Number two, he was really doing a good job staying
(06:35):
inside of him. He wasn't trying to come around and
pull any of those pitches. And the other thing most
importantly maybe is that where they were located. They were
middle to down in the strike zone. He wasn't trying
to get up on top of those fastballs at the
top of the zone. I Mean, he said it himself
after games talking about you know that that fastball at
the top, there's one of two ways that you can
do it. You learn how to hit it or you
(06:55):
learn how to not swing at it, and if he's
going to make a concerted effort to lay off of
that pitch and get it down into the strike, it's
just an easier pitch, and even high velocity, it's just
easier to drop the head of the bat on a
pitch down at your size than opposed to up at
your letters. So you know, maybe that's something that can
get him going a little bit, is getting on those
fastballs boogie.
Speaker 1 (07:17):
When you've been around players that say, oh, I love
going to this stadium and hitting or I don't like
hitting this place. Were you one of those kind of
guys that said, you know what, I don't want going
to Philadelphia? I didn't enjoy playing it rigly because I
remember one of my all time favorite astros is Lance Berkman,
and talk about it at nauseum how much he hated
playing in San Francisco. And the reason why I bring
(07:38):
this up is, can some guys talk themselves out of
having productive series on the road when they are already
going having a bad feeling about the venue they're about
to play in.
Speaker 2 (07:48):
Oh? Absolutely, I mean it's the same as how you
feel about your swing on a given day, right, whether
whether you're feeling good or bad, your swing's really not
that far off. In confidence A lot of times will
be the tipping point of if you're going to go
out there and feel like you're going to have a
good day or a bad day, and how comfortable you
are with your settings, whether it's you know, a backdrop
(08:09):
at a certain place, or the shadows in the afternoon
at Wrigley Field, or the cold wind blowing in in
San Francisco, whatever it is. If you go into a
game with the mindset that I don't like hitting in
this place, I don't feel comfortable here, I don't match
up well against the pitchers, whatever it is, it definitely
is going to affect you. And it works the other
way too, when you go into a place like Colorado
(08:31):
and most guys feel like, not only does the ball fly,
but it's a gigantic outfield, there's hits everywhere, and it's
just a great place to end.
Speaker 1 (08:39):
Farlot's your run. And I brought this up with a
game with Joe, and I want to get your thoughts
on it as well. You've got some pictures that, frankly,
probably a month or two ago. We're just lucky to
be on a major league roster. Now they're helping this
team put together the second best record in the American League.
They're about to get into the last half of the season.
Games will mean some more chance for the playoffs and whatnot.
(09:01):
And is this the same situation as a position player,
meaning that it's fun to be on a major league team,
But what's it like for a young player who just
fought his way on to be good and to stay
on this team knowing that Colton Gordon, for example, Okay, Culton,
we thank you for your service, and now we need
you to go six innings when you can. I mean,
how much more pressure does a young first year player
(09:23):
or a guy that has had little major league experience
fight through the times of This is the most I've pitched.
It's the most high leverage games I've ever been part
of in my major league career.
Speaker 2 (09:33):
You know, I think if a guy was good enough
to get there but not welcoming of a challenge like that,
I think a lot of those guys probably would have
been weeded out along the way. It doesn't mean everybody's
always going to be successful in those situations, but I
don't know that you know, a guy could be competitive
enough to get through the minor leagues, especially with a
(09:55):
lot of these guys at the askers have brought up.
These are not high draft picks. These are guys who
had to produce from day one just to stay on
minor league rosters. So these guys have been fighting for
their lives for most of their professional careers. I don't
think that any of these guys would come up and
not want to be somebody who could be pitched, who
could be pushed, you know, third times through the order,
(10:15):
up to one hundred pitches, go out there and face
the middle of the order again. I think they welcome
those things. And one of the things that breeds that
success as well is that, you know the Astros minor
league system, if you look, you know over the past,
you know recent history, they win a lot in the
minor leagues. You know, they those guys all won a
championship in Triple A last year. And that's certainly not
(10:37):
the same as doing it at the major league level.
But there are stakes. They're not guys who are just
out there pitching for their era and hoping somebody gets
hurt in the big league so they can get called up.
These are guys who have been in situations where they're
pitching two win games, and there are things, you know,
other than run prevention that go along with being a
part of a winning team and a winning pitching staff.
(10:58):
And I think we've already seen some of the signs
that they that they're able to handle that, and I
think the more that gets thrown on their plate, I
think they'll be able to handle it too.
Speaker 1 (11:07):
Bogie, great work as always, Thank you for the visit.
As always, as always, we'll talk in.
Speaker 2 (11:10):
Next week, all right, Thanks that still you got it.
Speaker 1 (11:13):
Brian Bogas Sivic with us here another Matt Thomas Shelwood
Ross appreciate his perspective. Very Wednesday with us at eleven
o'clock
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