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July 16, 2025 • 15 mins
Brian Bogusevic Joins The Show To Talk All Star Game & Astros 2nd Half
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Speaker 1 (00:00):
Is The Matt Thomas Show with Ross. Eleven o two
Sports Talk seven ninety hour number two of the Matt
Thomas Show with Ross. We are happy to be joined
by our good friend and regular contributor to this radio show.
Every Wednesday eleven o'clock, we say hi to Brian bogos
Evic of Space City Home Network Bogie a happy all
star break your thoughts about the just the general evening,

(00:23):
everything about last night. Tell me what you did and
did not like, if there was anything about both that
kind of Drey drew your interest about last night's events.

Speaker 2 (00:35):
I'm kind of in the middle about everything. I you know,
enjoy the celebration of the game part of it. I
enjoy kind of the celebration of also the individuals and
letting guys kind of get outside of the team aspect
a little bit and see some personalities at the same time. I'm,

(00:55):
you know, after close to one hundred games of real
baseball and exhibition game, I'm I'm kind of man about
I do like the idea of trying out some different
things and having the game be a little bit different
than than just your average regular season game and putting
in some some you know, different tweaks or ideas that
we'll maybe see in the future. But other than that,

(01:17):
for me, it's it's not necessarily about the game. It's
just about the weekend and in the events and the people,
and you know that's that to me is the fun part,
all right.

Speaker 1 (01:27):
A couple of real quick things. Automatic ball Strike Challenge system,
would you think?

Speaker 2 (01:33):
I like it. I liked it in spring training. I
like it. I like where they're going with it. I
think they've done a really nice job. You know, they've
they've used it for so long and in so many
games in the minor leagues that I think they've got
a really good feel for how to use it quickly
and efficiently. I like the added drama of showing it
up on the big board in real time and kind
of giving the crowd something to get into. I think

(01:56):
it's a great idea. I was a big proponent of,
if we got it, let's just use it for every pitch.
But I do like the way they're trying to use it,
you know, just more, you know, important situation type of way.

Speaker 1 (02:10):
Bogie. We had Bragman on with us a couple of
years ago when he was still with the team. In
spring training, and we thought he would universally, like every
player would love it. The consensus was we couldn't find
enough people that are active players that love every pitch
being determined ball strike via the computer. Why do you
think so many players are against it?

Speaker 2 (02:35):
They're just naturally resistant to change. First of all, I mean,
when you've when you've spent the amount of time preparing
and training to play a certain way, the idea that
things are going to be changed and there's going to
be some unknown is a little bit unnerving. But they
also assimilate to everything really quickly and very smoothly. I

(02:55):
think also there is, you know, the the human element
and the gamesman is something that you can appreciate while
you're in the game. You know, from the outside looking in,
it's very black and white. It's like, if it's the
ball we want at a ball, it's to strike, we
want to strike. But the idea of you know, watching
a Zach Grink hit the outside corner over and over
and then start going an inch or two off and

(03:17):
walking the umpire off the plate as well as the hitters,
you know, that appreciation of skill is something that could
be lost if we're just using a computer and it's
black and white. So I think it's two things. I
think it's just natural or resistant to change, and then
not wanting to lose an element of true greatness not

(03:37):
being able to exploit human error.

Speaker 1 (03:40):
I guess yeah, that makes some sense. Let me also
ask you this and we'll get ross. Got a couple
questions in after me. One of the things I brought
up about the ABS is what are managers going to
tell their players? When and if? Do you use it
in the right situations? Do you potentially squawking something in
the third inning knowing if if you lose it you

(04:00):
might not get it? You know, got one challenge left
if this comes into play. My question to you is,
if you were a manager, what would you tell your
twenty six man roster about how and when and what
seems appropriate to use those abs is because if you
lose the two challenges, you're done. You may want them
in the ninth thinning of a very close game.

Speaker 2 (04:20):
Yeah. I think first and foremost you express the idea
that it is for important situations. Right, It's something that
flipping inning, flip a game, flipping that that and preferably
later high leverage type of situations. Stepping said I mean,
there are so many guts. You know, if East Parades

(04:40):
is one hundred percent sure that a ball got called
to strike, I'd be okay with him challenging. You know,
it's kind of got to be a little bit of
self recognition. Also. I think I think some of that
some of the teams in the way they were using
it in spring training. It was a good idea where
from the pitching side, they put it on the catchers
to be the ones making the challenges and not the
pitchers trying to take a little bit of the emotion

(05:02):
and adrenaline out of it. And you know, I think
it's going to be kind of case by case basis.
But you know, even in they had meetings with teams
in spring training just going over this, and everybody is
on the same page that the way that it's being
implemented and most likely will be implemented is to not
try to change in pitch in the first inning. It's

(05:24):
to try to get you know, a big pitch right
in the seventh or eighth inning in a one run game.
And if everybody kind of understands that, I think guys
will be fine just letting it back to play out
the way they do in your kind of running the
middle type of situations. You know, for the for the
most part, everybody understands that maybe there's a couple of
guys you got to pull aside and have a conversation with, like, hey,

(05:46):
you do not have the green light to call. I mean,
you got to shut guys down on the base pass
every once in a while, you can shut them down
on challenging stuff too.

Speaker 3 (05:54):
That'd be a fun conversation to have. Brian Bugusvic with
us here on to Sports Talk seven on and transitioning
a bit to the team in the second half coming up,
Let's start with Hunter Brown. Last couple of starts not
the way that he wanted them to go. What do
you think as far as what's happening with him? Is
there just some fatigue? Is it just a couple of
bad starts and that's it? And also kind of a

(06:14):
gut feeling from you do you do you think with
him pitching on Sunday, do you think he'll get a
couple of extra days off for the weekend or where
do you think Joe Spot is gonna throw him?

Speaker 2 (06:25):
Yeah? So I think coming out of the gate, my
guess is you see both Fromber and Hunter in the
Seattle series because you need that, and I think it'll
be Fromber first and then Hunter in either game two
or Game three. I think you know, Fromber will be
on an extra day rest going Friday. You don't want

(06:46):
him on too much rest. And Hunter looks like he
can use an extra day or even too, So as
long as you get him in that series, I would
be fine with him throwing Sunday. I actually liked the
idea of them them being split up and you know,
having the ability to dagger them if you need to
push somebody to eat up innings because there's a short
start somewhere. But in terms of his last couple starts,

(07:08):
you know the all it all kind of started in
the Colorado start. For me, the stuff that wasn't moving
the same. I kind of attributed it to altitude, you know,
the sinker doesn't always need. But then we kind of
saw some of that stuff carry over into Cleveland and
then Texas. I think it might be a little bit
of fatigue. And you know, I'm not talking about fatigue.

(07:29):
Oh my gosh, he's dying out there, his arms hanging.
I mean, the velocity is still there, the spin rates
are still there. Everything looks good. It's just every once
in a while. Every once in a while, there'll be
a fastball that'll kind of get on the side of
instead of finished through it and have that hop at
the top of his zone. There have been a couple
of hits on changeups where they've kind of cut back
into the middle of the plate instead of getting him

(07:51):
getting on top of it and kind of pronating and
getting that drop and sink. And that's just you know,
a little bit of release points stuff. And if you
start getting a little tired, your body starts getting a
little tired, things go out of sync and it shows
up at release point and it's just little bits where
you know he was he was. There were times when
he'd go out there and throw a hundred pitches and

(08:12):
perfectly execute all hundred pitches. You know, everything came out
of his hand exactly how he wanted it. You know,
you get a little bit of fatigue and all of
a sudden, a couple of mistakes show up in the
middle of the zone and they get hit. To be expected,
He's one hundred and fifteen innings already. He's gone deep
into almost every start that he's pitched. I think, you know,
the All Star breaking, maybe an extra day on the

(08:33):
backside will be good for him, And I think there's
no reason that he's not going to be fine coming
out of it.

Speaker 1 (08:38):
All right.

Speaker 3 (08:39):
And on the hitting side, it feels like, again we
ask every week about Christian Walker, how beneficial you think
a couple of days to clear the head for him
and kind of finding where he's at to where I mean,
we are this deep into the season and he just
still has not fully busted out of the funk. And
when it kind of looked like he was unfortunately, although

(08:59):
I'm saying, you know, the grand scheme of things in life,
he doesn't think it's unfortunate, but he had to go
on to the paternity list. Then he came back and
didn't have a good series against Texas.

Speaker 2 (09:08):
Yeah, it was unfortunate that the timing of it, you know,
because he was really heating up. But at the same time,
you know, he goes into the break having four days
to kind of sit on what he's done in the past,
you know, a couple of weeks, which I'm sure a
lot of that will just be baby time, not going
to think about hitting all that much. But you know,
to have a little bit of positive momentum with how

(09:29):
that last road trip went. You know, when you think
about a guy who goes into a prolonged slump, you
think there there there should be some you know, equally
high high coming off of it, and that's how it's
going to balance out. You know, maybe we're not going
to see that. Maybe we're not going to see, you know,
a month where he hits over four hundred and hits

(09:50):
twelve home runs. But you know, maybe we're just going
to see the guy, a guy who's putting up the
numbers that we thought he was going to put up,
just you know, minus the first six weeks of the
sea or whatever. And maybe it doesn't all the way
balance out. But you know, if you look at his
body of work over you know, a prolonged period of
at bats, it's not all of that far off. And

(10:10):
I know we haven't had that huge swing back to
correct it and level everything out for the whole, but
it's been overall not that far off of what we expected.
So I think the biggest thing for him is now
getting pitches into locations that he wants. You know, he
was trying to hit everything that they were throwing at him,
prove that I can hit all parts of the strike zone.

(10:32):
What I thought he did best on that road trip
when he's sitting the ball well was getting the fastball
down in the zone out over the plate, Like you know,
two ways you can deal with that fastball at the
top of the zone. Either figure out how to hit
it or just stop swinging at it. And it looks
like he's gotten to the point to where he's going
to try to stop swinging at it unless he has to,
you know, with two strikes, So get pitches in locations

(10:53):
that you want finish, stay bat on those pitches and
deal with the results and take what you can get.
And I think, you know, we're starting to see him
move down that path.

Speaker 1 (11:03):
Last question, Bogie, do you think that we'll know what
the injury status is of so many of these players
based off what Dana does in the next two weeks
via trade? Would that be an indirect sign of Hey,
Christian's close, Hey we may get Luis Garcia back, Hey
we might have Spencer Arraghetti. You're on Alvarez anf I mean,

(11:28):
is there an if then statement to how active the
Astros are with potentially improving the team based off of
injuries or do you think if you had a chance
to pull Dana aside and say, hey, even if you
get one, two, three of these guys back, you've got
to go get some reinforcements before the deadline.

Speaker 2 (11:46):
No, I don't think it'll have anything to do with
injury status or injury severity, because I don't know that
they have the ability or means or desire even to
make a big move if one were warranted. You know,
if if if you were counting on Jordon coming back

(12:07):
and all of a sudden they know in the back
of their mind he's not coming back, there's no move
to be made that they can make to go to
go replace that. So I think I think that the
moves that they can make and will make, because they're gonna,
you know, certainly do something, are going to kind of
be the same types of move the same caliber of moves,
which which will be additive but not big. And you know,

(12:30):
even if you're going to get a good chunk of
those guys back on the pitching side, you're still probably
gonna want to add an arm. And if you aren't
going to get those guys back, I don't think they
have the ability to go add a bunch of arms,
and I don't think they have really the prospect capital
capital to go out and add a top of the
rotation type of guy. So you know, I think they're

(12:50):
kind of just in the situation that they're in where
you're gonna kind of, you know, add on the fringes
and and and solidify some things and hopefully get all
the guys back that you're expecting to get back. But
if you're not, you're kind of just in the position
that you're in.

Speaker 1 (13:06):
Bogie, great stuff is always hope you can charge some
downtime and we'll talk agin next week. Thank you for
the visitors.

Speaker 2 (13:11):
Always all right, sol, See guys, you.

Speaker 1 (13:13):
Got Brian Bogoscevic with us here on Sports Talk seven.

Speaker 2 (13:17):
And deal with the results and take what you can get,
and I think, you know, we're starting to see him
move down that path.

Speaker 1 (13:25):
Last question, Bogie, do you think that we'll know what
the injury status is of so many of these players
based off what Dana does in the next two weeks
via trade? Would that be an indirect sign of Hey,
Christian's close, Hey we may get Luis Garcia back, Hey
we might have Spencer Arraghetti you're on Alvarez an inf

(13:49):
I mean, is there an if then statement to how
active the Astros are with potentially improving the team based
off of injuries or do you think if you had
a chance of pulled down in aside to say, hey,
even if you get one, two, three of these guys back,
you've got to go get some reinforcements before the deadline.

Speaker 2 (14:08):
No, I don't think it will have anything to do
with injury status or injury severity, because I don't know
that they have the ability or means or desire even
to make a big move if one were warranted. You know,
if if if you were counting on Jordon coming back

(14:29):
and all of a sudden they know in the back
of their mind he's not coming back, there's no move
to be made that they can make to go to
go replace that. So I think I think that the
moves that they can make and will make, because they're gonna,
you know, certainly do something, are going to kind of
be the same types of moves, the same caliber of moves,
which which will be additive but not big. And you know,

(14:52):
even if you're gonna get a good chunk of those
guys back on the pitching side, you're still probably gonna
want to add an arm, and if you aren't going
to get those, I don't think they have the ability
to go add a bunch of arms, And I don't
think they have really the prospect capital capital to go
out and add a top of the rotation type of guy. So,
you know, I think they're kind of just in the

(15:13):
situation that they're in where you're gonna kind of, you know,
add on the fringes and and and solidify some things
and hopefully get all the guys back that you're expecting
to get back. But if you're not, you're kind of
just in the position that you're in.

Speaker 1 (15:28):
Bulgie great stuff is always hope you can charge some
downtime and we'll talk agin next week. Thank you for
the visitors.

Speaker 2 (15:32):
Always, all right, So see guys, you

Speaker 1 (15:35):
Got Brian Bogasvik with us here on Sports Talk seven
and eight.
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