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December 12, 2024 • 11 mins
Following Juan Soto's historic contract, the value of Kyle Tucker has increased drastically. The Houston Astros right fielder is set to become a free agent after the 2025 season, and general manager Dana Brown could look to benefit from trading Tucker before he hits the open market. "Definitely seemed like there is momentum building," Brian McTaggart, Astros beat reporter for MLB.com, said while attending the final day of MLB Winter Meetings in Dallas. Tucker and the Astros agreed on a $12 million contract last season after the 27-year-old lost his arbitration case the year prior. "There's always been a belief that Tucker was going to explore free agency," McTaggart said. Framber Valdez will also be a free agent next season at age 32. The left-handed pitcher held a 15-7 record, 2.91 ERA and 4.5 WAR in 2024, but Brown said he will "listen on anybody" when asked if he would consider a trade of either Valdez or Tucker. "I think it's less likely that [Valdez] gets traded," McTaggart said. The Astros still remain in the race to sign Alex Bregman, who is now a free agent. Houston offered the third baseman six years at about $156 million, and agent Scott Boras has stated that he is still communicating with Brown about a potential deal, but many remain pessimistic as Bregman is reportedly seeking a number closer to $200 million. "I find it hard to believe that the Astros would go above six years." The Astros have their ace, third baseman and right fielder dominating the headlines from Winter Meetings, and there is a chance that the 2025 season's lineup would feature a lot of new faces in key positions, but could the Astros still win the division with a restructured roster? "They're not the 2019 Astros," but they "could still be a pretty good team," McTaggart said.
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Speaker 1 (00:00):
On the Astros and you know what, why not we
don't need to speculat anymore. We've got the insider with us.

Speaker 2 (00:05):
Let's go.

Speaker 1 (00:05):
He's with us every Thursday at one o'clock dur in
the baseball season, and we're happy to have Brian mctagger
joining us in the winter meetings.

Speaker 2 (00:11):
Brian, first of all, you are missed.

Speaker 1 (00:13):
Secondly, how crazy has it been speculation wise? You've been
going to these things for a long time? Is this
the most activity in terms of heard this, heard that
that you have been around in a long time when
it revolves around the Astros.

Speaker 2 (00:26):
Yeah, around the Astros, I would say yes.

Speaker 3 (00:28):
I mean, you know, typically there's all kinds of you know,
stuff thrown out or nonsense, and but yesterday, uh, you know,
wandering the floor of the hotel, the lobby, and every
time I turn around, I'm you know, talking to a
different agent or someone with another team, and everyone's.

Speaker 2 (00:47):
Like, what are you hearing? What are you hearing?

Speaker 3 (00:49):
And everyone's trying to find out what everybody else knows
other reporters as well. So when there's buzz like that,
there means usually something is going on. And it definitely
seemed like there's momentum building towards Kyle Tucker being traded now,
and you know Bregman's still out there as well.

Speaker 2 (01:06):
You know, two different, two separate situations.

Speaker 3 (01:08):
But the Astros are Dana Brown thought they were close
to getting something done the other day.

Speaker 2 (01:14):
So the way continues, though nothing's done yet.

Speaker 1 (01:17):
All right, back to the speculation on Kyle for a second.
I always said, and maybe there wasn't a moment in time,
but obviously when you had the arbitration of a few
years back in the Astros loss, so there were some
resentment on the Kyle Tucker side. And also Kyle Tucker
knows the landscape of what the Astros have done. Do
you think there was a conversation ever between Kyle and

(01:39):
Jim or Dana in the last say six months It said, look,
I know you're looking for the mega deal. You know
that we don't offer the mega deals. That when the
season settles down and everybody's done in their off season,
we're going to go to the winter meetings and really
try to see what we can do in finding you
a new place for twenty twenty five to help you
figure out what you're gonna do for the long term,
or do you think this was always just something that

(02:01):
was kind of brought up in passing conversation. But because
there are more media, there more people talking about it,
this all of a sudden has gained some steam.

Speaker 2 (02:10):
Yeah.

Speaker 3 (02:10):
I don't know if they ever had those conversations. I mean,
they tried to extend Tucker previously and he you know,
it didn't happen. So I think there's always been a
belief that that Tucker was going to explore free agency,
and it came to that point the Astros weren't going
to resign him. And and now you see Jan Soto
getting that crazy money and Kyle Tucker next year could

(02:31):
be the you know, one of the biggest free agent
names on the market. You know, a guy with fifty
homer power with more tools and Soto all around. And
so he sees that, and and he's gonna, you know,
want four hundred five hundred million, and the Astros see
that as well, and you know, the Astros are just like,
let's get something for him.

Speaker 2 (02:49):
And you know, I don't blame him.

Speaker 3 (02:50):
They could get a couple of big league players, a
couple of prospects, maybe not have to pay him fifteen
plus million in arbitration this year and they won't lose
next year. I mean they lost, you know, Korea, they
lost Springer didn't get anything for them.

Speaker 2 (03:05):
You know, I can't remember if they got qualifying offers
or not. Maybe they got a draft pick.

Speaker 3 (03:09):
But you know, their farm system is in the position
where they say, Okay, we'll let Tucker walk and we'll
just plug this guy in. They just they're just not there.
They need to and they have so many questions on
the big league club. They could sort of fill both
of those questions by trading one guy and free up
some payroll.

Speaker 2 (03:25):
It makes a lot of sense.

Speaker 4 (03:27):
Where do you think that puts us Brian just in
kind of as far as an era of this Asterisk team,
there was obviously a very hard rebuild. Then there's the
championship era. Is this seeming like a soft reset and
they want to contend in a couple of years? Like philosophically,
where is this driving this organization the next couple of years?

Speaker 3 (03:47):
Well, I don't think they'll ever rebuild under Jim Crane.
I mean he sort of said that. I would say
maybe a retool. I mean, you know, they could they
could trade Tucker get a couple of pieces and still
sign a couple of more players.

Speaker 2 (03:59):
It's won the division. I mean, they're the division is
not great.

Speaker 3 (04:03):
I mean it took what eighty eight wins to win
the division last year. So you know, you know, Rangers
just resigned to Yvaldi and uh, you know, Angels have
made some moves.

Speaker 2 (04:11):
So still there's a lot can happen.

Speaker 3 (04:12):
But it's not like trading Tucker and you know you're
you're falling into the abyss.

Speaker 2 (04:16):
Now there's they could still be really good next year.

Speaker 3 (04:19):
They're not the twenty nineteen Astros, and they might not
be again unless they, you know, go through a rebuilt process.
But I would call it more of a retool. It
might look different, it might not feel fun for Astros.
Fans of Tucker and Bragman aren't there anymore. But you know,
there could be a different a new face at third,
a new face and right, a new face and center,
a new starting pitcher, and that could still be a

(04:41):
pretty good team if you you know, especially if you
build it around pitching a little bit.

Speaker 4 (04:44):
Brian mctagger MLB dot Com with us here on Sports
Talk seven ninety and a man has kind of been
somewhat forgotten at least with all the talk that's been
going on. What do you think about from Bervaldez. Do
you think there's much of a market for him, Could
he possibly be moved or do you think he is
still in an Astros uniform come opening day.

Speaker 3 (05:05):
When we met with Dana Brown Monday in Dallas, he
did bring up Fromber's name. I guess you know, I'm
sure you know as a guy they would consider trading
as well. It is something they consider, you know, sort
of the same boat as Tucker. If they do, they
and they want to compete, I mean that you're gonna
have to go get a starting pitcher or two because
he's your race, he's your horse.

Speaker 2 (05:24):
I think it's less likely he gets traded. But also
a guy that you know.

Speaker 3 (05:29):
If he has a really solid twenty twenty five, he's
gonna make a ton of money on a large contract,
and probably the Astros wouldn't have a ton of interest
in bringing him back, so they could trade him and
get something as well. But you know, baseball is about pitching,
and he still looks pretty good at the top of
your rotation. If you trade Tucker, you know, you free
up that fifteen million or so.

Speaker 2 (05:51):
He's going to make an arbitration.

Speaker 3 (05:53):
Valdez is probably gonna make eighteen million, so he's gonna
cost a lot as well.

Speaker 2 (05:57):
So I don't think you necessarily have to trade both.

Speaker 3 (05:59):
But uh, you know, I think there's a chance, but
a little less likely, that that Brownberg gets traded at
this point.

Speaker 1 (06:05):
Brian, when it comes to Bragman, what's he waiting for
right now? Do you think Scott Boris is a type
of person that says, all right, we're calling a deadline
in make your best offer, let's go. Or is there
any sort of waiting game that we're in right now?

Speaker 2 (06:17):
Well, still in the waiting game. I don't know where
Alex's mind is.

Speaker 3 (06:20):
I don't think he's the guy that wants to wait
forever and you know, get into January and February not
knowing where he's going. I heard yesterday when I was
on in the lobby that the Red Sox for the
team to watch at that point, which you know, makes total,
absolute sense, putting him at third base there and playing,
you know, with the Green Monster. You know, that would
be tough for Astros fans to see. But you know,

(06:42):
I don't know if the Yankees are involved, But you know,
I think I think we'll have a Bregman decision sooner
than later.

Speaker 2 (06:49):
It's not going to drag on, you know.

Speaker 3 (06:51):
I still I still think there's a shot he could
wind up here, probably a small shot, Dana Brown said Tuesday,
they were, you know, optimistic they could get something done
with bregmant I. You know, I'm not sure where that
comes from. So, you know, maybe the market's not there
for him and and his his his offer of value
comes down and the Astros can raise theirs a little
bit and there's some kind of match.

Speaker 2 (07:10):
But I still think that's unlikely.

Speaker 1 (07:12):
When you when Dana tells tells you stuff like that,
do you think it's just a straight situation of we
gave him an initial offer you reported last week six
one fifty six. Are they holding back a little bit
of money or are they saying we think we've been
able to figure out what your value is. If you
can't find something better than a was six one fifty six,
then we're always here for you.

Speaker 2 (07:33):
I think there might be a little little room in that.

Speaker 3 (07:36):
I mean, they He was asked if they made him
another offer beyond the six you know, one fifty six,
and he didn't say but I think the Astros put
a lot of thought into what he would what his
any value is, what he's worth, knowing that there might
be a team or multiple teams that could offer him more.
But you know, maybe the market's not there for him,

(07:56):
and maybe if the Astros up their offer by another year,
they get close to a match and something can get done. Still,
I find it hard to believe the Astros would go
longer than six years to a player who's in his
early thirties, even if it is Alex Bregman, somebody that
everybody loves and has been a cornerstone player at I
just don't think the money's gonna match up.

Speaker 2 (08:18):
All right.

Speaker 1 (08:18):
Last question, if Bregnant moves, which I anticipate that happening,
what do the Astros do right away for satisfying third
base while at the same time maybe still looking for
some first base help.

Speaker 2 (08:29):
Yeah, well, I think we go back to Tucker.

Speaker 3 (08:31):
You know, if they trade Tucker, maybe they get a
third baseman and an outfielder from another team. You know,
we've all seen the you know, Jorge Polanco is somebody
they're interested in to come in and play third base.

Speaker 2 (08:43):
He's not Alex Bregman.

Speaker 3 (08:44):
And whoever they put in right field is not cal Tucker,
but they could still add more pieces on top of
those guys. So you know, I think the Astros need
to make a decision at some point sooner or later
on Bregman, whether they think he's gonna sign or not,
and say, Okay, we're gonna do this. And they did
start having post life without Bregman, post Bregmant conversations at

(09:05):
their winter meetings. I think they realized this is a
long shot, and I think they're they're sort of starting
to formulate plans to move on and if they trade Tucker,
they might get a third basement in return and close
the door on Bregmant and they start in twenty twenty
five with some new faces.

Speaker 1 (09:21):
Did the Astro Suite provide delicious snacks and alcoholic beverages
for the reporters?

Speaker 2 (09:28):
Uh? No, it is.

Speaker 3 (09:30):
It's not that exciting. I mean, we go in there,
there's a you know, a gaggle media. We all sat
on chairs. It was like a big sweep. We all
sat on chairs like a sort of an U shaped angle,
and Dana Brown sat in the middle, and it was
you know, everyone's kind of sitting back with their legs
crossed and their notepads out and just you know, peppering
questions to Dana. And then after about ten minutes or so,

(09:52):
we leave, but no, no snacks, no drinks. It was
a few years ago we were leaving and Jeff Luno
offered us a bottle of wine that was on the
floor that he didn't want, but I I passed on that.

Speaker 1 (10:04):
Hey, safe travels back, Thank you for the information, and uh,
if we don't, we may call you one more time.
I mean seriously, bragman moves tuck against move. We're gonna
you're you're you're on the scene. We know you know people,
We're gonna have to call you one more time.

Speaker 2 (10:16):
You understand that, right I we'll be here and not
will answer. You know that you're the best.

Speaker 1 (10:20):
Brian McTaggart, MLB doc Oh, I forgot to ask, Brian,
do you hear about our new quarterback?

Speaker 4 (10:25):
Mister mctagg I was about to say, I couldn't believe
this didn't come up.

Speaker 2 (10:29):
I know, I know, I know, very exciting, very very exciting.

Speaker 3 (10:35):
I mean, uh, he's been a rough couple of years
for uh quarterbacks, so uh, you.

Speaker 2 (10:40):
Know, give Willie Fritz some time. I think I think
he knows what he's doing.

Speaker 3 (10:43):
And if they can uh add a couple of receivers
in the portal, let's go. Let's uh you know, let's
uh big twelves wide open, they can win it.

Speaker 1 (10:51):
Just say what everybody's thinking. We're the next Big twelve champions.
Peering to the story, I like it.

Speaker 3 (10:56):
We are.

Speaker 2 (10:56):
Arizona State was picked last day.

Speaker 3 (10:58):
Yeah, hey, it is completely wide open.

Speaker 1 (11:02):
My money's on the kooks. Oh, it's always on the kooks.
Thank you, friend, we appreciate it. Brian McTaggart, MLB slash
Cougar objective reporter
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