Dana Brown & Joe Espada Are Back For 26’, KD Makes His Preseason Debut

Dana Brown & Joe Espada Are Back for 26’,  KD Makes His Preseason Debut

Episode Transcript

Speaker 1 (00:01):
Is The Matt Thomas Show with Ross ted on one
in h Down. Good morning, and welcome to a Wednesday
edition of The Matt Thomas Show with Ross here on
Sports Talk seven NINETI alongside Rossville Reale. Our producer is
Jonathan Allen. I'm Matt Thomas, and we really thank you

(00:21):
for listening to this radio station in this program today
where for the next four hours we will try to
give you a plenty of sports information, a little bit
of analysis, uh maybe a few laughs, who knows, uh,
And we'll give you an opportunity to tell people to
shut their bon masses up at eleven thirty today and
that's coming up in about ninety minutes from now. Okay, wonderful. Yeah,
last night interesting baseball games. I was already popping the

(00:45):
champagne on the Toronto Blue Jays, I know when it
was six to three sixty three, and then Aaron Judge
became Aaron Judge and Jazz chishm did with chance chism.
Did I know you can't use the Aaron Judge doesn't
come through in big games? Narrator? How's Kylin Tucker about
doing by the way? I didn't notice. Actually, you know what,
let's organically. Look, okay, know they're off. Oh so it's

(01:05):
not going to change. Yeah. There are four games today,
by the way, why I believe one of them Kyle
Tucker will be involved in, and my gut feeling is
he'll have an extra base hit. Yes, that's right. I
like that in yesterday. Baby feeling good. You know, honestly,
we we we've ribbon each other about the Kyle Tucker stuff.
You can't decide what your future is on Kyle Tucker

(01:26):
based on what he does now. I mean, there's a
little bit of it. It would have to be one
extreme or the other. He can help himself more than
he can hurt himself if he goes completely over, which
he hasn't. He's gotten three hits, all singles, hits Beverige,
Oh gosh, so weird. You know why I do that?
Why because I protect the people that want to advertise them.

(01:48):
This shit's good, man. I believe in them. That's true.
I believe you can. But yeah, I mean, if there's
no competitor in the category, it's not like you're speaking
for REPSI I would speak for Repsy. I know you
would because you hate doctor Pepper, which is why you're
mister Texas, you know what that was rude. Two minutes
in the show back to the Baseball Playoffs, Laurence has

(02:09):
to say about all this on the road. She must
be working for TBS because she's she's not in the
MLB Central studio. Oh, she's in a nice hotel suite,
all right, getting weird, nice pearly white teeth. Now you're
trying to geo. Guess what what hotel she's in, sag Finder.
I mean, there's four cities. Weird it tie end hotel. Okay,

(02:30):
back to sports, so to college. I mean, my guess is,
if you are in the Kyle Tucker sweepstakes and you
think you want to bring him to your team, you've
already got a nice good feeling of what you're going
to want to pay him.

Speaker 2 (02:41):
Yeah.

Speaker 1 (02:42):
I do think playoff performance would matter, especially to me
and the maybe general managers who are knee deep in
analytics and all that type of stuff aren't good. But
I would say an owner, wouldn't you, As if an
owner was wanting to shell out all this money, it's
an easier sell from the general manager or whoever to say, hey, look,
this guy performs the playoffs too, and we want to
make the playoffs. Right, Well, I'll say this, how a

(03:05):
stud are the owners? Are the owners guys that are
just that dip their toes in the water or they
actively involved in the front office. Yeah, you have a
mixed bag. I mean they've probably got guys like Jim Crane,
he played college baseball, he knows baseball, and he has
a pretty good handle on some things. And then you
got I don't even know people who are just the
comic neeers of baseball. Yeah, that are just worried about

(03:29):
what time dinner is, yes, and when they get their
nap in, and I want to make sure they save
their campaign on red Dead redemption before they leave them,
before they turn the console off. That feels like a
video game reference. And I was able to correctly get
it when you said the console, So I was contexting
the clue there. Good job. Yeah, I'll say this, and
no one's going to confuse me for being a Rhodes scholar.

(03:50):
And I totally understand those things. I mean, I did
go to the Harvard of Southeast SEXT and that, Yeah,
you're a Harvard graduate of southeastn I'm a college graduate.
I did rice the Harvard of Southeast Texas in my
world is University of Houston. Okay, pretty, I mean we
got a nice bump in the US era. A grease
Rice is the Southeast Texas. But that's gotta be. And

(04:12):
maybe he turns off the noise. But he's cow, but
he's never going to shake that. He's never going to be.
He's never going to be. Like, there are really smart
like Jeffrey Lewry, the owner of the Philadelphi Eagles, comes
across to me as a really bright guy. Who else
before he got uh the uh let's say, or before

(04:34):
craft got involved in all the little fun things he
got involved with down in Florida. Pretty stude guy. He
didn't know that the women really liked him. That that
could be. And when you pay somebody money, they do
tend to like you. That I have experienced in these things.
But I'm just telling you that's what exactly what you
wink it at me, mat Okay. But my point is
that there are a lot of astute like Jerry Jones.

(04:56):
For as bad of a football acumen he's had, really
in the last ten years, he's the greatest sports business
owner in the history of sports. I mean, considering he's
been their general manager. They haven't done anything, but I
mean for the most part, they've won games. They've won
for the most part, and they continue to be the
biggest brand in the National Football League, in the biggest sport. Yes,

(05:17):
marketing wise, he's been a genius and so you have
to give him his kudos on that. He got stadiums built,
he's got him full of people, he's got huge advertising dollars.
The NFL can't put the Cowboys on national TV enough.
But going back to Cals, that's it. Maybe again, Cal's
worth multiple billions of dollars, so he probably he's probably
going uh, scoreboard beach, you well earned too. But my

(05:40):
point is that he's never going to be considered man
one in a stuke. I've never heard anybody in the
business community go, wow, I like what Cal did with this. Well,
that's something he's gonna have to come turns with on
his own, Matt, because I mean, how much does he care.
He's just as the term you used, which I've used
before as well, not going to be confused with the

(06:01):
Rhodes scholar. He's just not very bright. He just doesn't
come across that way, and it doesn't seem like he is.
That seems like a nice person normally something that's going
to change. But I'll tell you this, and this is
the truth, and I've brought this up with many people
over the years. Most billionaires are really brutally How do
I cold people? Yes? Right, you have to point you

(06:25):
have to have a killer instinct from the time you
wake up to the time you go to bed. If
you are worth billions of dollars, that's actually interesting. Do
you want the shrewd businessman who cut a bunch of
throats on his way to the top and stepped over people,
or do you want the nepo baby who's just kind
of having a good time. Well, I mean there's a
little bit of both in sports, yes, but by no

(06:48):
means that Cal earn his way to the top. I
mean Cal did the right thing. He stood by his
dad from day one, probably learned a lot of things
from his dad, Yes, in terms about running businesses and
obviously being next to him. Obviously his relationship with Bob
was significantly more increased than it would be carries because
that's obviously gotten surly really quick over the years. But

(07:11):
the point being is that you know, what do you
want do you want a guy that you can have
a beer worth it, you can high five, that can
cook your burger for you, Or do you want a
shrewd tycoon Jerry Reinsdorf some type. Well, yeah, there's I
mean there's there's a lot of owner. I mean again,
most billionaires, whether they're sports owners or they are running
fortune fifty companies. Probably on guys, you're gonna want to

(07:35):
sit back and say, how has your day been? They
don't care how your day was. They don't particularly care
that you asked how their day was and you didn't
move on. You're you're in, You're constantly in acquisitions, in
climb in trying to go to the next level. Well
you do. You have a businessman who spends the owner
of the rockets. So that's good. Yeah, a lot of
the things I'm not talking about questions, man, I'm just

(07:55):
talking about the personality was now for instance, I you know,
I know Jim a little Jim Crene a little bit.
I don't think he remembers my name, but that's okay,
A right, I think. But we've had multiple I've heard
him call you Matt. He has come me mat before,
but I haven't seen him in a couple years. Okay,
you forgot h Well, I forget names too. I mean,
so my point is, but I have a little bit
of relationship with him. We have had some not necessarily

(08:18):
personal conversations, but very lighthearted ones. But I don't work
for him. But so I don't know what he's like
when when he's in the front offices of his buildings,
whether he's running his logistics company or that Tillman. I've
known for a long period of time because I knew
Timman when he was just starting out building the Empire.
So I don't even really count him because I do
know him now, again, we're not besties. I haven't talked

(08:41):
to him in a while now. Patrick, his son, is
now running a lot of the operations here, and I do.
I do doctor Patrick on a semi regular base. We
had him on the show last week at media Day, Yes,
and he does listen to show. So he got a
nice boy you did. Okay, But but and I respect
Patrick because Patrick has been given this and he has
to continue to run it. I mean, Dad has been
he I mean, when you're an ambassador to a country,

(09:03):
you have to you got to put everything away. Yeah, well,
I wonder how busy he actually mean, he can probably
he could obviously call and talk. I heard that's a
nice wine cellar in that state he's at well, if
it's not working at a call up to an applying
to repair. I don't know if they have a bureau
in Rome. I mean, I can certainly ask, but Cow's
done it. Cow's just a little bit different. He's there

(09:26):
are neple babies out there, and I don't know if
the nepple baby's taking Like Stephen Jones, I don't know
anything about Steven Jones. If we ask people in Dallas,
they probably give us a pretty good indication. But Steven
feels like he has been really intimately involved in the
Dallas cowboy operation since Jerry took over. And in fact,
wasn't Steven the one that kind of said, Dad, you're
not taking Johnny Manziel, I'm pulling the cart away from you.
Is the is the rumored story about that? So you

(09:48):
know who knows? But uh yeah, cal Cow's not going
to be I don't know how do we get in
this conversation begin with I don't recall what we were
talking about baseball owners. You were talking about how much
guys know baseball were Oh yeah, start off on Kyle
Tucker Batt conversation. Yeah, that's what that's what the show
can do. We go in and writing different directions to
try to confuse your as often as we can. Yes,

(10:10):
we flow like water. Yeah uh but yeah, So what
kind of owner is going to say, I need to
see Kyle do something in these postseason in the postseason
before I want to write this big check. He has
performed in the postseason previously, but he's had a couple
of bad ones in a row. Yeah, I think it
might might. This might be the third bad one in
a row, and another stint on the disabled list this year.

(10:32):
So that's two straight years now. Last year obviously was
really long. This one not nearly as long. But do
you say, oh, he you know, he fouled a couple
of balls off his shin and got a correct, correct fracture. Right,
it's compared to just actively involved in the game itself.
All right? On the show today, we've got some news
on the Astros that we will obviously get to and

(10:54):
that includes the front office and the managerial's position. We
will get to shut your ball mass up. At eleven thirty,
weell of the news at noon even not to day
at one fifty and great postseason games. A couple series
could be coming to an end tonight. Four games today,
all of them could I think all of them could
end tonight. Right, it's game fours, I think so, I

(11:15):
would think so that that's the Matthews. Yeah, that happened.
So maybe the last time we have four baseball games
in a single day the rest of this baseball season
and no Astros. It's still it still stings, it just does.

Speaker 2 (11:27):
Yeah.

Speaker 1 (11:27):
Now I got a root for the Tigers in the
Blue Jays. I was rooting Harp of the Blue Jays,
I mean hard for the Blue Jays. And now Cam
Schlittler is on the hill for the Yankees. Apparently the
last time in the MLB postgame show on Fox, they
were having a difficult time saying his name, and I
think Big Poppy was involved and said, you know what better,

(11:48):
just call him Cam. Call him Cam. I've done that before.
I call him Big Chief, do you yeah, big Dog?
And I just throw nicknames against the board here to
see brosk okay seven one three, two, one two five,
seven nine. If you want to chime into the conversation today,
seven one three two one two five seven nine zero
seven one three two one two five seven And I

(12:10):
was talking about Tilman's wine cellar in Rome. If he
wanted to call me and said, Hey, who would you
recommend to come fix his wine cellar mine in Rome,
I would say Uptown Appliances Repair. They speak Italian. I
bet I Bobby Fierro.

Speaker 3 (12:22):
Bobby Fierro, Bobby Fieneral. I don't know the Bobby. You
just speaking Italian. Hey, Uptown, a plant's rip it? Okay,
that's after you should apologize. I'm going to apologize.

Speaker 1 (12:34):
I'll save it for Friday, eleven thirty. It is a
ten nineteen sports Talk seven ninety. It is a Matt
and Ross with you here until two o'clock today, shut
up by mess up at eleven thirty, News at noon,
believe it or not. One fifty to day. Well, tomorrow
we'll get into the Cougars game against Oklahoma State with

(12:55):
Lilie Fritz will be on the radio program They Rotten
five is back tomorrow at twelve fifty. Looking forward to
that and uh. The Astros have decided to keep the
manager and the general manager for twenty twenty six. They
were under contract, so that was. It's a little bit different, so,

(13:15):
needless to say, first reported by Brian mctagger, friend of
the show, Friend of the show, you can catch him
every Thursday here on the show, at least during the
baseball season. Yeah, we can get him sporadically when he's on.
He came at them yesterday, he did. Yeah, we should
get old Channel Roman. We should be poaching guest swap,

(13:36):
lot of swapping around these parts over the years seven, one, three, five.
So we'll get some more on that. But I do
want to say that again there they were under contract.
Now they're lame ducks. Sounds like they've both got one
year left in their deal. In college athletics, you can't
be lame duck. Apparently pro sports, at least baseball wise,

(13:57):
you can do it, and it may kind of makes sense.
It's yeah, it's like a it's a prove it, prove
it deal. Yeah, because you're not bringing in recruits and
stuff like that. No, I mean if a particular player
now you can have if you have a good general manager,
and a good manager could help, but none of nine
times of one hundred, it's about how much money didn't
get it. Who's the guy? Yeah, whatever, it's my check,
all right, Yeah, you had an extra zero to that.

(14:20):
Seven was my arbitration hearing exactly. I'm Matt r One,
all right. Uh oh, hello Keith, you're on seven hot
and good morning do you Keith?

Speaker 4 (14:33):
Day?

Speaker 5 (14:33):
Such shine.

Speaker 6 (14:37):
Day, sud shine.

Speaker 1 (14:38):
Hey Keith. You didn't call when your team was in
an O two hole? Why don't you call it? Why
didn't you call when your team lost two games in
a row? You never call us?

Speaker 2 (14:45):
It was crazy.

Speaker 1 (14:46):
You're so busy. Yeah, you're very busy.

Speaker 6 (14:49):
I was ill. I just came from the VA that
gave me a clean bill of hell. So I need
for you Ross and you Matt to issue a public
apology to my son Aaron Harrison Judge.

Speaker 1 (15:04):
Wait, man, I've never taken hold on I've never taken
shots about Aaron Judge except the fact that his World
Series numbers last year were horrific. And that wasn't an
opinion that was based on a percent fact.

Speaker 6 (15:15):
It's called quit being a hater and be a congratulator.
Because I know that Ross has had disparaging comments about
my son.

Speaker 1 (15:24):
O what, he's the greatest hitter in baseball? What don't
want to say? He also had choked a lot in
the He also choked a lot in the baseball and
then the playoffs. And that's also a fact. He's the West.
He was the all time of strikeout percentage king in
playoff history, just ahead of Martin Maldonado coming into this series.
I didn't do that. He did that.

Speaker 6 (15:45):
What was he doing now?

Speaker 1 (15:47):
I don't know, Well, he had one good game. What
else has he been doing?

Speaker 6 (15:51):
No, he's averaged five hundred right now, he's bad.

Speaker 1 (15:54):
In five hundred. And he had a gi enormous three
run home run last night that tie the game at six.
He was fantastic and the people in New York love
him today. But if he goes over four with three
strikeouts and today, he's gonna be hated and you will
be calling us on Friday Show or Thursday Show. You
still got a regular season oh PS of a thousand
and a playoff oh PS of eight seventeen, which is good,

(16:14):
but below is average.

Speaker 6 (16:16):
Okay, So here's what I know. Like through the through
the regular season, Boston kicked our ass, Toronto kicked our ass,
but you know we didn't kick our as Seattle. We
love to play Seattle. So soon as we get through
with Toronto. We're gonna open up.

Speaker 1 (16:34):
You know they're down to one in the series, right, Yes.

Speaker 6 (16:38):
I do, I do know, But I have faith f
A I t H I have. We're gonna win good Night,
We're gonna win Friday, and then we're gonna beat the
crap out of Seattle and go back to the World Series.

Speaker 1 (16:51):
Okay, so you're you're like the George Michael of Yankees
fans again. All all I want you to do is
when your team gets eliminated, whether it's tonight or on Friday,
you need to come in here and say, I'm sorry
for being such a boastful person about a mid baseball team.

Speaker 2 (17:09):
Me.

Speaker 6 (17:10):
You heard we have twenty seven World Series champions championship.
How many y'all got?

Speaker 1 (17:18):
Man, First of all, I'm not a y'all. I'm an
Astro fan, but I'm not a team employee, so I'm
not gonna so the answer is to yeah, but most
of those Yankees championships were like pre war and pre
integration doesn't even count.

Speaker 6 (17:32):
That's fifteen years ago. The last time we were at
the World.

Speaker 1 (17:35):
Champion three years ago. Modern history. The Astro has been
whooping that ass. You don't want this Astro ass on you.
You know what, do you know what we're gonna do.
We're gonna take your lunch money and kiss your girl.
In two thousand and nine, everybody on the team was
juicing that one doesn't count either.

Speaker 6 (17:55):
Astros will not be in any playoffs for the next
five years.

Speaker 1 (18:00):
All right, you know what, just called him? I don't
apologize after you get you're asking, you know what? All right,
I'm gonna hold on. I'm gonna I'm gonna tell Jonathan
to find a song because I'm you talked for a second. Sure,
why not? Why don't you follow me on Instagram at
sports RV. I really would appreciate it. Influencer initiatives up
here at the wonderful iHeartMedia Empire at sports empt doing

(18:25):
very well on the Instagram. Thanks que We're getting closer. Actually,
I just got over twelve hundred, so i'd appreciate you, guys.
I am at two thousands. Want to make mad mad
unfollow him and follow me. I need to catch Matt
two thousand and nine thirty eight. This is it right
here for all you Yankee lovers. O. I love our country.

(18:53):
They have a better national anthem. Turn it up? No,
they don't they absolutely do. This sounds come and she
sounds attractive. I don't know if she is, but she
sounds attractive. Ween hugs.

Speaker 3 (19:06):
We see the advice the Yankees must fall time.

Speaker 1 (19:14):
So say with me, Houston, Texas.

Speaker 7 (19:17):
Canada, we stand talk.

Speaker 1 (19:23):
This is a banger. It's fine. God, I'm actually tearing
up a little bit here. Would would you say.

Speaker 3 (19:33):
Yeah, Jonathan Huts, this is I don't know a lot
and that's nothing.

Speaker 1 (19:38):
That's not even like that's the most family but that's anthems.
It's like way better. Yeah, Okayna, it's better. Turn it
up here and it comes a big climax. Excuse me,
we stand down, come now, just a wonderful it's not close.

(20:06):
Can you tell me that it's better than osay? Does
that star spangled banner? Come on now? Wave yet, wave
over the land of the Free. And would you like
a hot take?

Speaker 2 (20:15):
Sure?

Speaker 1 (20:15):
Why not? God Bless America is a better song thanner.
This is you can't be missing Texas that you know what?
I'm missed America with that God bless it. I mean
if all your music takes which are really bad, this
is also like a this is a different category of bad.
I didn't know you could be bad in so many
different categories.

Speaker 2 (20:34):
Matt.

Speaker 1 (20:35):
You're saying, God Bless America is better than the star
Spangled Banner. Yep, you know what, God Bless America is good?
Hold on Greenwood now, no, no, no, no, no, you're
gonna go with I'm a real American. I want to
I want to be I'm gonna be proven wrong because
every time I do this what you want to do
in yes, I do, hit the l music right now,

(20:56):
star Spangled Banner or God Bless America? Okay, Actually, initially
I was thinking of America the beautiful. That'd be a horrible,
horrible God Bless America is a little closer. God Bless
America is a better song than the national anthem than
Star Spangled Banner. Yes, what is this?

Speaker 2 (21:13):
Oh?

Speaker 1 (21:14):
Oh, God bless Smaltzy? This is like, this is terrible,
This is terrible. You'd find that like at a uh
at a at a Nashville bar. Hit the mute. We
need the instant pole music is I I I I
don't think I'm gonna be by myself on this. Maybe
why I will be And as we say before, the
instipol doesn't lie. It's time for an instad pole, we

(21:39):
don't screen you. Seven one three two one two five seven. Honey,
what song do you prefer? God Bless America or the
Star Spangled banner? The star Spangled banner? Seven one three
two one two five seven nummy seven one three two
one two five seven honey. First to four people are
not liking you on Twitter. That's fine. I mean I'm

(22:00):
used to that. I got somebody ripping me the crap
out of me already this morning.

Speaker 2 (22:04):
Go ahead.

Speaker 1 (22:04):
What are they saying? Uh, somebody tell Matt Christopher Cross
did not invent Oh Canada. Geez, what a terrible take.
I love O Canada. But I'm on this. This is
that's the debate. Maybe you'll have somebody on your side.
God blow, I say, God Bless America is better than
national anthem line one of the insta Paul, God Bless
America or Star Spangled banner? You're a clown, Matt and said,

(22:30):
what are you saying? You said you're a clown? So
I think it's start. Smigel. Vader wrote, all right, but
he said something else listening to something else, and so
I don't remember David did he say Berry Mail? I
don't know, all right, I'm gonna say him calling you
a clown, say I didn't. I didn't call you a name.
George Corey, star spangled banner or God Bless America? Come on, man,

(22:53):
Francis Scott Key at fort McHenry boom boom boom boom
pal Sorry, Matt, that's fine. That's two. Oh you know what,
at least I stand on my takes. I'm a waffle.
Well you're yeah, Josh, star spangled banner, god bless America.

Speaker 2 (23:09):
Star spangled banner.

Speaker 8 (23:11):
I've only cried during the national anthem.

Speaker 9 (23:13):
Who cries during God Bless America?

Speaker 1 (23:15):
That's true America does it.

Speaker 8 (23:18):
Is?

Speaker 1 (23:19):
It's an emotional one, especially you know every six months
when we're invading another country. Well you know reason why
God's star spangled banner is so bad? Not bad, it's
not as good as America as a God bless man.
It's because people butcher the words to star spangl banner
all the time. Okay, well you're done. Three Oh I
feel I know Here comes the fourth one line two
star spangled banner or God Bless America? Hello, Hello, God

(23:44):
bless America or star Spangl banner? All right, polls i'nt done.
That's fine. That's a four host sweet folks.

Speaker 10 (23:54):
I mean we're keeping a book right now, we ask.

Speaker 1 (23:57):
That's your music, opinions talking. I got one more for you.
Why do you hate the start? Where I don't hate it?
I know can preference. You said, Oh, Canada is better.
I do believe out Canada. You know what, I will
have someone back me I when we come back. Okay, Oh,
somebody texted you. No, I know the I know a
person that will back me up on this. Okay. Are

(24:18):
they from like Germany or something? Nope? Okay, he's as
American as an American. Kids, somebody will back me up.
Ten thirty one Sports Talk seven seven one three. I'm
gonna call him right now. Goosebumps as Matthew the greatest

(24:55):
version of any national anthem, any ceremony song. Thank you, Harriet,
and the story Whitney. May you rest easy. You gave
us the greatest of it all. I mean, not the
love of all, but the greatest version of as. I
did that too, No, she did do that. I got
to bring reinforcements in some time. Here we go. You're

(25:16):
still on the wrong side, all right. Let me tell
you all something right now, Okay, y'all are wrong about
by the way people are sending me emails and sending
me tweets about the America the beautiful Ray Charleston America beautiful.
I mean, I believe, Yes, that is great. Okay, It's
a great song and a great version. So the incipole
did not necessarily represent that you went four oh whatever.
But I mean, and there were rude votes that were

(25:37):
shut your bump asses up, call you a clown. You
noticed that people are mean to me. Yeah, so they
don't gotta call you a clown just because you have
bad music takes for the neighboring country. No, no, no.
All I said was I love the national anthem, but
I love Canada, moore, and sometimes you got to bring
in reinforcements. Okay. A man who never gets critisized, a

(26:01):
man who's beloved by all do do love him? Is
the television voice of the Houston Rockets. Craig does a
spectacular job. Craig, good morning, Tell me morning, Tell America.
Tell this great audience of ours, how you and I
love us some o Canada?

Speaker 2 (26:19):
Yeah, oh, Canada's our national anthem, star spaneled, star spangled
banner is awesome. But Oh, Canada is a better tune.

Speaker 1 (26:26):
Thank you? Are you from Canada?

Speaker 2 (26:29):
Craig?

Speaker 1 (26:29):
Where were you born? Craig?

Speaker 2 (26:30):
No, I'm not from Canada. No, I'm not.

Speaker 1 (26:34):
Don't listen to man.

Speaker 2 (26:35):
No, I mean I was. Well, actually, technically you were
born closer to Canada than I was.

Speaker 1 (26:41):
Oh is that true? You from the valley or something?

Speaker 2 (26:44):
No? No, I'm from Ohio. But you're you were born
in the Detroit.

Speaker 1 (26:47):
Air Now you're talking about You're talking about Ross?

Speaker 2 (26:50):
Hi?

Speaker 1 (26:50):
Hi, Craig, How are you mad? Ross?

Speaker 2 (26:52):
Hey? Ross?

Speaker 1 (26:53):
Oh, I'm sorry, it's okay. I forgive you. It's early
for you. I understand.

Speaker 2 (26:58):
Did we wake you with Disney prepping like I'm pretty
prepping like a mutter for this preseason?

Speaker 1 (27:01):
There you go, Kevin Durant making his Rockets debut. Who
broke the story in Kevin Durant playing?

Speaker 2 (27:08):
Nope, I'm looking for I'm looking forward to it. Yeah.

Speaker 1 (27:11):
Was it Craig Ackerman? Nope? Was not Who broke the
story that Kevin Durant is playing tonight, Craig?

Speaker 2 (27:21):
Was it the Chronicle?

Speaker 1 (27:22):
Nope? It was Kevin's new best friend, who's gonna He's
gonna take her out for some barbecue which she gets
to town.

Speaker 2 (27:28):
Okay, Adam, but well when did she break it?

Speaker 1 (27:33):
I don't know. I just look, I get assassinated for terrible,
terrible reasons, and I had to come and get some
some some backup, and that's why in my back up. Okay, well,
how do you feel about way?

Speaker 2 (27:43):
So? What is so? What is Ross Ross's position on this? Yeah?

Speaker 1 (27:46):
I prefer the Star Spangled Banner to O Canada? But
O Canada is a great song. Also, though, do you
prefer America? Was it beautiful?

Speaker 4 (27:54):
No?

Speaker 1 (27:54):
No, God bless America. I prefer God bless America. Prefers
God bless America over the star Spangled Banner. What's your
opinion on that, mister Ackerman?

Speaker 2 (28:04):
I think both are great. I do believe. Don't people
say that now? I can't sing worth a lick. A
lot of people say who could sing? The Star Spangled
Banner is a very difficult song to sing and hit,
especially on those high notes. And I'll still go Star
Spangled Banner on there. Both are great, I'll take both,
but I think Oh Canada is Oh Canada in terms

(28:26):
of and what I will admit whenever you are at
a sporting event in Canada and their Canadian national anthem
does play. The majority of the people in the building
get into it a bit more than say US Americans do. Uh,
And it kind of adds, I think, to the impact
of the song when virtually everyone in the arena and

(28:49):
or stadium is singing along to it. So maybe that
has something to do with it as well. But it
is it is. I think it is a great song.
But so there you go.

Speaker 1 (29:00):
There it is. And most importantly, how do you think
Reed Shepherd's going to do as far as the point
guard position for the Houston role? Lookin and getting you
some basketball questions into you, Craig, are you ready for this?
And you were you ready for those?

Speaker 11 (29:11):
Well?

Speaker 2 (29:12):
I think I was probably more. All you did was
text me and say, hey, we're going to call you
in three minutes and we need we need to get
your we need to get your opinion to help settle
an argument on and and because.

Speaker 1 (29:22):
You agree with me, that's right going.

Speaker 2 (29:27):
I really had no idea what.

Speaker 1 (29:28):
That's what we want to throw some things that you're
not surprised with. Okay, go ahead, No.

Speaker 2 (29:32):
It's okay, it's all good. You know what. Look they
were they were he was they were going to need
him to step up this year with advmbly and now
that for a doubt, they really need him to step up.
And I thought he was Look the times I saw
him last week, uh in training camp, during the practices,
I think he looked very good. He looked very assertive.
I think one of his biggest issues, particularly in the

(29:54):
first couple three four months of last season, and he
played very passively. And obviously they don't need him to
play pass the leak. There's a reason why they took
him third overall. There's a reason why the organization believes
so highly in him is they say believe he's a really,
really good basketball player. And I think it took him
a little while last year to adjust. Now the times
that the Rockets made some adjustments to their lineups and

(30:14):
put him in the starting lineup and said, hey, go
be you, he was awesome. And I thought last week
in training camp, watching him during training camp, he was
very good in those practices and scrimmages. I thought he
was much more aggressive, look much more confident and assertive
in that preseason opener the other night, And so I
thought it was some pretty good stuff theft from him.
And I'm looking forward to to more of the same,

(30:35):
because again they were going to need him to begin with,
but now they really need him to take a big
step forward from his rookie season this year with Fred
out of the lineup.

Speaker 1 (30:45):
Thats insight. You get nowhere. Why they pay you the
big bucks, Craig, Thank you so much. No wonder television
money gets more money than radio money does. Well deserved, Craig.
You do a fantastic job on the broadcast.

Speaker 2 (30:55):
What was what was? What was Matt's breakdown compared to mine?

Speaker 1 (30:59):
He starts comparing it to to Neil Sadaka, it was very,
very weird. Now I did not compare Reed Shepherd to
Nil Saidaka, he's asking about Reed Shepherd. Ross. That's wrong
with you, Ross.

Speaker 2 (31:11):
This is something I will agree with you on. Ross.
Matt's taste of music is awful.

Speaker 1 (31:15):
Oh so bad. By the way, he hates Elton John.

Speaker 2 (31:20):
Yeah.

Speaker 1 (31:20):
See, Craig, but you're a guy and you hate Ranch
dressing too. You often talk on the bride. I'm like,
you never know. You are a box of chocolates of
opinions on anything. I never know what I'm gonna get
with you.

Speaker 2 (31:32):
Well I do. I do not like Ranch dressing. Yeah,
it's just truly terrible.

Speaker 1 (31:36):
And uh yeah, and then you love Hello Kitty and
you hate Elton John.

Speaker 2 (31:40):
I'm a big Hello Well. I like cats, I mean
I have cats. I think a cats are cute and cuddly. Ok.
I think Hello Kitty is a very cute little character
brand there.

Speaker 1 (31:49):
Well, the city of US agrees with you, because they
go nuts for Hello Kitty, Hello Katy Night.

Speaker 2 (31:53):
They do.

Speaker 1 (31:56):
People for Hell on a Tuesday.

Speaker 2 (31:58):
Yeah. The Astros run like two or three them a year.
I know the Rockets do one promotion the year, and
it seems like virtually every professional sports team is running
some sort of promotion like that. And yes, you're right,
it does drive a lot of tickets.

Speaker 1 (32:10):
So we should do Hello Kitty against the Wizards. It
plays me full eighteen thousand strong smart.

Speaker 2 (32:15):
Well, I think can't I think can't win? More sells
that game himself.

Speaker 1 (32:18):
Oh my god. Oh that is so uncalled for all right,
I'll see you tonight.

Speaker 2 (32:23):
What what?

Speaker 6 (32:24):
No?

Speaker 2 (32:24):
That was that was a compliment. That was a compliment.

Speaker 1 (32:26):
You think Cam wore is going to fill the Tota
Center up? Okay, I got you on that. Hello Kitty
and Cam Witmore. How about Hello can win more night,
that'd be good.

Speaker 2 (32:35):
I like it. I'm all for it, dude. It's like
crazy athletic.

Speaker 1 (32:39):
Man, I know, I know. Back to your prepping like
a mat. I'll see you tonight. Thank you, friend, We
see you.

Speaker 2 (32:44):
All right, to see you guys. A little bit man voice.

Speaker 1 (32:46):
Television voice of the Rockets, Greig Ackerman, and a swell fella. Yeah,
who doesn't like Elton John and ranch dressing. He's got
weird like I. Like I said, I end up watching
a lot of the team. The radio broadcast is fantastic
time hearing the call in Sports Talk seven ninety, but
I usually have to talk about the games afterwards on postgames,
so I watch it on TV. Fine, I understand. Craig

(33:08):
is the absolute you never know. He's just gonna hate
weird random stuff. Yeah. And by the way, if you
ever go to dinner with Craig, it's gonna take you
about thirty minutes longer than an average dinner companion. Oh
that's because he has all these weird food. Well, you
have to get like four things taken off and two
things added on. It's just a lot of work. I mean,
great conversation once you get past that. But it's just

(33:29):
a lot of does it have this on it? Does
it have this? Does it have It's just too much,
all right? Seven one three, two one two five seventy
By the way, real quick before we get to a break.
H David on Twitter's is national anthem Chris Stapleton the
all time best is his opinion, Marvin Gaye than Whitney Houston. Now,
Marvin gay was excellent too, but it also took like

(33:51):
six and a half minutes. It was great, and I
don't remember, no, it was really like three and a half.
But you know when was Chris? When did Chris Tapleton
do the national app He did it recently and it
was good. Not the best ever, but it was good. Okay,
all right? Uh seven one three two one two? Is
it a super Bowl or something? I can't remember. Yeah,
I want to say it was. Yeah, I want to

(34:12):
say that was, but yeah, we can. You know what,
when when we're on on our next road trip to
Lake Charles Ross, we need to just have a good
old We'll play that's about anthems and kind of rank
them one to ten.

Speaker 2 (34:20):
Good.

Speaker 1 (34:21):
All right, came back up in about eight minutes. We're
gonna get into the Astro's decision, actually Jim Crane's decision
to bring both guys back. But I do want to
bring them something. You know again, I'm mister for you
tab Gui during the break, yes, and I'm also a
mister followed people that I follow. So I looked at this. Okay,
you know what the College Sports Commission is?

Speaker 2 (34:40):
Do you not?

Speaker 1 (34:42):
Is that the people?

Speaker 2 (34:42):
That?

Speaker 1 (34:43):
Is that the clearing douse? Excellent. I'm glad you got that,
Thank god, man, because you usually bat like one for
ten thousand when it comes to guessing what I'm going
to ask you questions on that, not when it's sports.
Well you're asking about, yeah, who was on what's happening?
And then yeah, I'm gonna struggle. No, you always me
and I'm John mcclaim or something like that or goofy stuff.

(35:03):
That is one of my favorite that probably no one
laughs at that but me. But there's literally the only person.
It pisses me off, but yet you still find it funny.
That's why. That's why it makes me laugh.

Speaker 2 (35:14):
All right.

Speaker 1 (35:15):
So the College Sports Commission fifty minutes ago tweeted out
something they got a Twitter account. I didn't even know
you had a social team. Who's running this twenty hundred
people follow it. Okay, today we launched an anonymous tip line.
Oh my god, this is a bad idea that allows

(35:37):
anyone to confidentially report potential rules violations around third party
and IDL deals and revenue sharing directly to the CSC.
So now you have some loser with no life, either
like a Texas fan coming through OU's or A and
M's NIL deals, Aggie's fans cod this is this is interesting? Okay.
So that so that that's part of who's going to

(35:59):
be sending them honymous to stuff. The other is going
to be legitimate schools. Now the clearinghouse says, you can't
give this athlete this much money. Then you find out
the school did it anymore or not the school the
NIL group did it. We got to separate the school
from the NIL the NIL did it anyway, and you
found out about it, like, for instance, if I am

(36:22):
like a Kawhi Leonard situation, Yeah, that's exactly what it is. Oh,
you're telling me that you're creating a folk company and
funneling funneling money to him through that way. Ooh, I'm
gonna send the tweet or send it an email to
this anonymous organization. You don't want to be a part
of that. You don't want to look at the inbox
you're going to be sifting through. I'm gonna say like

(36:44):
ninety nine point nine percent of these submissions are just
going to be dead ends in a waste of time.
I mean, my god. Josh on Twitter says, oh I
lost it here. Oh who is funding the commission? I
don't know what. It's the clearing house, And obviously the
clearing house is saying, but who's okay, who's paying this?

(37:06):
So people are gonna be investigating this, right, yeah, but
who is paying these people's salary? It's got to be
it's got to be. It's gotta be the people that
are involved in this. I guess instable. I don't know,
but it's it's basically a snitch line. Yeah, yeah, we
need to create goldy perspective on this. Or college football
expert so ross the high school athlete or the college

(37:27):
athlete says I'm getting six million dollars from Idaho. Uh huh,
And we're like, wait a minute, there's no way that you,
as an Idaho athlete can get six million dollars. You
ross the athletes as well. I got guess what me
here at UNLV said, and again I'm gonna I'm wanna
snitch on you, Idaho. And again if somebody wants to
cut that check, let them. I don't understand what the

(37:47):
big deal is. People lose value. There's no nil cap.
There isn't. Yeah, they're what they're basically saying is that
we are trying to put rules into place.

Speaker 2 (38:00):
Well, I don't.

Speaker 1 (38:00):
And this clearinghouse is the when you go to an
nil deal, when you say I want to give a
particular athlete and nil, you have to go to this clearinghouse.
The clearing house has to say, Okay, that makes somewhat sense.
It's there. And again, if they say no to their discretion,
it's their discretion. If they say, oh, okay, you can
give an athlete that plays at UCLA four hund thousand
dollars for talking about rubway not I mean subway. That

(38:23):
make sure that subway. Don't say rubway now the same
rubway was a bad choice. Four hune thousand dollars that
my guest, the clearing house would say, Okay, that makes sense.
LA's huge markets, big ten conference. That makes But if
you're giving, you know, a kid at UAB one point
two million dollars to speak, and they're going to go, well,
that doesn't make sense because uab's reach is not gonna

(38:43):
be that grid. Again, your your argument is, well, it's
whatever the school, whatever the collective wants to give the athlete.
Why does a clearinghouse even have to put in a pack?
They're just trying to make some sort of regulation to it.
And if you don't like the regulation and you find
out one of your other schools you're going against losing,
you lose an athlete because of it, you go snitch
on them. This is going down. This is gonna be
another Supreme Court case. It's just no way this holds up,

(39:06):
mark my words. We'll be talking about this getting struck
down a well. As I asked somebody a long time ago,
when I first heard about this clearing I said, well,
who determines what's fair and what's exactly this is? Yeah,
there's gonna be cases, multiple cases. It feels like because
if I'm Louisville and I've got an athlete that I
really really want, I'm gonna probably pay more than market

(39:27):
value so I can keep him at Tech. Yeah, Cody Campbell,
you can't ni L at Texas Tech. There isn't an
the Texas Tech brand is not enough of a reach.
Now it might if it goes to the national place
for a you know, college football playoff, all of a sudden, help,
it'll help the clearing house. I found a comical Yeah,

(39:48):
you're just it's just almost a way to keep the
halves intact from the have nots. So you know what's
gonna happen the collective the clearing house is going to
tell people know and then they're gonna go backdoor channels.
You know, this happened in the Premier League actually in
English football where my squad, Manchester City was bought by
the United Arab Emirates and then they pumped a bunch

(40:09):
of money in there in sponsorships and now they have
a bunch of financial fair play charges. It's like, well this,
this wasn't worth this cool? Were you to tell us
the words? So there's like a huge lawsuit it's been
like dragging on for years where the league is suing
the team and the team is suing the league over
over sponsorship. Well my question is if if the clearinghouse
allows some things and doesn't lend others are you gonna go, Oh,

(40:29):
there's presidents that you allowed this and didn't allow this again.
This is way beyond our pay grade. But it's I
knew when the term clearing house came into play this
was gonna be a mess, because it's gonna be there's
gonna be no consistency. So somehow this feels like this
has been fumbled at every turn by the NC double A.
But it all started. You're working backwards from a broken system.
You're trying to fix something that is broken at its core.

(40:50):
You're treating the symptoms, not the disease. The disease is
the n C double A. The funny the funny thing
about it is for me is you've got a snitch line.
Now that is I mean, how many people can go?
Is it a portal? You go enter, you put your
code with your name and your user name and your
eye password in and you can go, Oh this schools
do offering news. I don't know's I'm gonna make some complaints.

(41:14):
I heard about some dirty dealings over at you of Ah,
wait a minute, we are clean? What clean as a whistle?
I'll stop on Hawaii.

Speaker 2 (41:22):
Hawaii?

Speaker 1 (41:22):
What you h oh? You know if you if you
got an ani outa Hawaii. You know the problem with
Hawaii is I always thought Hawaii should be expensive, right,
really good? Well, first of all it's expensive. Second of
all far, it's far. You're not gonna if you if
you're homesick, you live in Cincinnati, I'm gonna take you
a little bit home. Mam and dad. Come see me

(41:44):
how much at thirty four m Hawaiian airfares are we
were looking at the to day are astronomical and it's
it's the most beautiful place in Arthur been to. But
God is expensive. Literally, you can't know Hawaiian a budget.
Try like a Saint Lucia, Well for the Bahamas. He
went from Hawaii to the Panhandle of Florida. Okay, really,

(42:06):
we're trying to look. I've been trying to get you
on your big relaxations vacation. That's gonna happen, Matt. You
need I'm not too busy. You're not that busy. It's
The Matt Thomas Show with.

Speaker 7 (42:17):
Ross re number two of The Matt Thomas Show with
Ross here on Sports Talk seven.

Speaker 1 (42:34):
I ain't coming up at eleven thirty. Ain't nobody got
time for that slash. Shut your bumbass up. You got
some lined up. You look like you're ready to rock.
You slash up over there. But okay, here's the thing.
I have great friends like Mike Tyson head Bob. I
thought you were gonna ready to throw down at eleven
thirty or something. I got people emailing me. Uh Wayne,

(42:56):
Star Spangled banner is trash. Canada's anthem is better too.
You're not alone, Matt Gobble, America is much better. Yeah,
he's from Serbia. Then I got my buddy, ragnar Oh,
Canada is a far superior anthem when sung by fans
in a hockey stadium. I was at the East Center
for the Olympics two thousand and two. Ragnaria, where's that
guy from? He's German? See former rocket employee, good friend

(43:16):
of the show. Okay, German, Germany downplaying America. I've seen
that before. All Right, I thought, I know I'll lose.
I lose the battle people at.

Speaker 10 (43:26):
The Olympics, the Olympics and one of our America citizens.

Speaker 1 (43:31):
You know, I'm not saying. Here's here's the thing. You
don't understand. I do like the song. I'm not did
I ever say I didn't like the song?

Speaker 10 (43:39):
I'm not saying like you're saying has more emotion O
cana has more emotions than startspalling better. But I imagine
you win and you have yes.

Speaker 1 (43:49):
If you know Whitney Houston singing, Marvin Gay singing it
for me, Ray Charles singing, America are beautiful. All boom
boom boom A one A two eight three, all Spectac Her,
Rose and Bar not so much anybody else Butcher the name,
by the way. I what I do not like is
I don't like America. When I go there and we look,

(44:09):
we have the star spangle ban at rockets games, people
like ad verses and they add a little, you know,
and the home of the break. Hey, hey, hey, hey,
don't add stuff? Yeah, write that down. You're gonna clip
that or two. I knew you were gonna agree with you.

(44:30):
I agree with you, though, just sing it normally most
of the time they do it Street I gotta do.
I'm at eighty two games a year, PROSSI I'm telling
you they're adding stuff. They write it down, write it down.
I will. I'll text you. I'll say this woman is
adding or this man is adding extravers say. I go

(44:51):
to a lot of games, too, mad, I know, but
I'm just saying I'm almost NBA streets, b A streets,
and you know, all right, I want you to write
it down. Oh say, generally it's that bangled band. No no, no, no, no, no,
you're wrong. What about last? What about yesterday? I you know,

(45:13):
I usually have my earphones on, so I don't hear it.
Did anybody even listen?

Speaker 2 (45:16):
Did you said?

Speaker 4 (45:17):
You know?

Speaker 1 (45:19):
Because people keep out stuffs fraud, we can we get
to the main the sports?

Speaker 2 (45:24):
All right?

Speaker 1 (45:25):
Okay, well we're talking about sports, talking about the the
national anthem, that's sporting events. Yeah, seven one three five seven, seven,
all right. I told you on Mondays to tell the truth.
I was not wigging out, but I was like, kind of,
I wasn't completely certain. And frankly, Brian mctagger must have
gotten a tip and said, the Astros don't like this

(45:47):
uncertainty out there, or the Tigers are winning out there,
or or or things are settling that they said, you
know what, we had a deep conversation because my guess
is there's no way in the world the gym did
not have a private meeting with Joe Aspota separately. So
he said that was the one you believed right. I
thought Dana was more in trouble than Joe was. But

(46:10):
you're wrong. Well, I mean, I'm not wrong. I'm just
saying that that in my world and my thoughts, I'm
a lot of opinions on it may be a wrong opinion.
I I didn't base it as fact. But they're both back.
Both have one year remaining on their contracts. Uh huh.
I will say this, and this is really no great
assumption on my part. If this team doesn't make the
playoffs next year, both are gone. I can you know what.

(46:33):
I'll put my name on it, write it down. Okay,
you can join it if you like. I'm not gonna
say that's crazy. Yeah, I don't think it is crazy.
I mean, if you are. If if there is doubt
ross he that the either one, we're gonna lose their
job after after they were on the outside looking literally
by a tiebreaker loss. Imagine if they don't make the playoffs,

(46:53):
like the legitimate that don't make the playoffs next year. Yeah,
I mean, I was fairly confident that our our friend
Dana Brown was gonna be back. Joe was a little
more iffy on but I thought he'd be back as well,
it was not surprising. But honestly, here's the thing I
can't comprehend if you were if Joe, if you were
in the look, there's a certain segment of the baseball

(47:14):
public astro fan base, really, the dumb dumbs that are
an astro Twitter Joe's Spotify. What what if if Joe
is being fired and Joe comes back to you and says,
what did I do wrong? I would like to legitimately
know what he did wrong? Did he not motivate the guy?
To those people who are saying that he didn't bunt enough,

(47:34):
he left pictures in too long, you know, he mishandled
the bullpen. Just stupid stuff that no matter who the
manager is, people like to come just like the low
it's the lowest. Yeah, it's I've got the four narratives
standing by it, Like exactly. He didn't motivate the guys.
His lineups were too uh frequently changed. Yeah. Yeah, Like

(47:56):
for example, the first reply, no accountability for Jim Crane.
It was not just injuries, thanks Christina. Brian McTaggart responded, actually,
and he said they lost Bregman and Tucker had devastating
injuries in rotation lineup and bullpen and finished one win
from a playoff spot. So off of that reply, the

(48:18):
only way Joe Spot in my mind, would have lost
his job this year is if they would have gone
seventy and ninety two instead they went what did he
go with? They go eighty five? And with eighty seven,
eighty seven, eighty six or eighty seven. Yeah, I mean
they won eighty seven games. That's actually a miracle with
with Ryan Gusto being their third most innings pitch on
the season with Colton Gordon. Colton Gordon was tied for

(48:43):
third I think with most innings pitched with a bear
of Zax playing what now a pair of Zacs? Oh
shorts short and cole Yes. Taylor Tramale got serious ab. Yes,
Carlos Kray was deadline deal. He got more abs than
jord On Alvarez forgetting Cooper Hummel. Huh the goat. Don't

(49:05):
sleep on Cooper Hummel. W Cooper Hummel on this show
Big Week. You can go back to bed the next day.
On Believe on Gut Feelings, he said that what do
you say, seven hits in a series or something like that. No,
I think it was three hits in a game, three
hits in a month, which is fine, and that he
was U Yeah, he was Cooper d Fade. No, he's

(49:28):
Cooper little Rock, poor guy. It's fine. Get on a
minor league deal. Point being they this team would have
had to completely implode, you would have. And again, major
league players don't want to say something publicly, but they'll
go whisper to their buddies, and those buddies will call
Ken Rosenthal, and they'll call Jeff Passing and they'll call

(49:48):
the people you'll they were strife that to find out
about it.

Speaker 2 (49:51):
Mm hmm.

Speaker 1 (49:53):
But now the question is going to be what kind
of contract is a J hinchin Big one? I don't care, Yeah,
I don't. If you're Jim Crane, you're a responsible owner
of a sports franchise. You can't be waiting in the
wings for somebody to come say, all right, I want
to come here.

Speaker 2 (50:14):
You know what I mean.

Speaker 1 (50:16):
If you're gonna make a change, you're not making the
change because you might get aj Hinch to come here.
You're doing it because you fullly think you need a
philosophical change. But I will say this, and this is
this is one of those is an evergreen where it's
like a long lasting one. If Aj Hinch ever reappears
in the Astros organization, this is just a and I
know we're not on gut feelings here because this is

(50:37):
we're in regular day. He's going to be at the
general manager of this team. I think so. I believe
that this is a super super gut feeling. I believe
that Aj that this will be the last time he manages,
that once he's done managing in Detroit, he will not
manage him. I think he's got a front office moxie
to him. I think he wants to he wants to
craft a team. And that's why I always thought that,

(50:58):
you know, because he and Joe are very tight. I
thought that would have been an interesting combination of working
those two guys together. And I think AJ would have
gone to Jim and said, Joe's my guy. That's the
reason why I was kind of in my thought process
of if anybody was in trouble, it was more Dana
than it was Joe. I like Dana. Actually, I don't
think Dana's inn a poor job. Now. He didn't win
the trade deadline battles. I mean he's like Parids, I mean,

(51:19):
not Etze praatist, but he sus Sanchez did not help
in Arius didn't do much. Career was good, Korea was good,
but I mean it was just hy. They held the
Twins hostage. Yeah and uh and frankly until Parides got hurt.
The Parides part of the the Kyle Tucker trade was
a win, super win for this time. Cam Smith was
still a win. Yeah, he was an overall positive player

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for you. Well, you you at least have the faith
that this is a guy that can do it. He
just needs to get over the rookie, you know, because
he played a lot of baseball. He just did and
then you got worn down there skying reports because guess
what major League baseball is hard. It just is, all right.
So if you would like to have a comment either
way on whether or not you are happy or sad
or frankly indifferent to Joe A. Spada and Dan Lebron

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coming back, let us know seven one three two one
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please join us here on Sports Talk seven ninety eleven nineteen.

(52:30):
Matten Ross with you here on a Sports Talk seventy.
Shut your bumb mass up coming up at about ten
minutes from now seven one three two one two five
seven at Kevin Durant will be making his preseason debut,
says Kay Adams Rockets against the hated Utah Jazz tonight.
Utah was the number one pick. It'll best prediction wise.
Last year that only won seventeen games and they fell

(52:53):
all the way to number five. It's a shame they
take no idea. I don't remember. Actually, this is interesting.
You remember a guy named Ace Bailey, Yes, he was
a Rutgers player. Players in the first round, and everyone's like, oh,
that's the one. They didn't want to go to Utah.
You don't think there was rumors for like twenty four

(53:14):
hours he didn't want to play in Utah. Now I
remember that. Then he talked to his representation, He's like, oh,
I love Salt Lake City. Yeah, just great, just not
going to a extension there is wonderful, was so amazing.
It's the best. Yeah, and then there's a player on there.
The best thing about Salt Lake City right now. You mean,

(53:37):
like as we speak today, if you're trying to sell
me on moving there, Okay, let me give you. I'll
give you five things, Okay, all right. First of all,
it's one of the most beautiful cities in America in
what way, mountains, okay, seasons. Utah is beautiful. They got
the big five National parks, lots of outdoor activities, skiing parks, okay,

(53:59):
so that if you're a skier, it's they always call
it the clean snows there before it gets to the
rocky mountains. A bailey much of a skier. I don't
really know a spay that well. I mean I could
ask him before the game. Yeah, okay, so beautiful, lots
of stuff to do outdoors wise, people are generally very nice.

(54:20):
M Russell Westbrook would disagree. Uh yeah, there have been
a few players over the years that have had issues.
I'm not talking about jazz people. I'm talking about like
just generally round the streets. What else is nice about Utah?
You said you're giving me five You had no ready
to rock I'll get what's the cost of living situation

(54:41):
compared to like, I don't know, Denver. They do have
a state income tax. I would say it's got to
be cheaper, right, No, no, not necessarily, not necessarily. Can
use Park City as an example of a great little
neighborhood town that's closed. That's really it's forty minutes from downtown. Sure,
Park City is one of the best resort destinations.

Speaker 2 (55:04):
In the world.

Speaker 1 (55:04):
Frankly, I need to give you two more things. Oh
not a lot of traffic, okay, And if you're not Mormon,
Sundays is a piece of cake to do stuff like
everybody is in the church. Yeah, Sundays are a big
church outside all day morning church is an all day
thing for LDS on Sundays typically like eight hours and

(55:27):
Sundays is I think it's at least three hours. And
then Sundays are a day with they legitimately call it
a day of rest, Okay, so they don't do a
whole lot, so brunch all to yourself. Well yeah, Plus
it's funny because the Rocket the Jazz have tried to
avoid playing Sunday games because people are like, stay at home.
We play the Jazz Thanksgiving weekend on a Sunday in

(55:48):
the afternoon, which is we're going right up against the
NFL some cheap tickets. I mean, I assume so, but
it is. It is unbelievably beautiful. Okay, and you an
outdoors person, how's a how's the night nightlife better than
it was when I lived there? Okay, it's not. It's
not like the outdoors I've been designed on I want
to be. I can say this. I I walked. I

(56:10):
feel very safe there. Not that every city doesn't have crime,
but I always felt safe. And Salt Lake that's good.
And this and the downtown scene is three hundred percent
better than it was twenty years ago. Okay, thank you, Matt.
There's a your Salt Lake serious chamber of commerce. And
how many of those are? Are Ace Bailey receptive too?
Oh wow? I mean I wouldn't go ask players? I

(56:31):
mean no, I mean, no one's going there. No one
has said I want to play for the Utah Jazz Well,
of course, Carlos Boozer was the greatest example. I was
there in Utah when Carlos Boozer signed a duke player,
longtime NBA player, and it was like this gave him
a crazy contrast for the time. Why why is he
going to Utah? Like payment morningybody else? Yeah, lots more.

(56:53):
Let's talk to Jay on seven ninety at eleven twenty two.
J thank you for holding in. Good morning to you.
Good morning.

Speaker 9 (57:00):
Before we get to my astro, take how far is
the Amish.

Speaker 6 (57:03):
Community in Utah Amish?

Speaker 1 (57:08):
Would I'm gonna put it at about I don't know,
eighteen hundred miles?

Speaker 12 (57:12):
Oh okay, okay.

Speaker 9 (57:17):
From what I hear, they're bringing back Joe at Spotta
and Dana Brown.

Speaker 13 (57:22):
Correct, Yes, well you might as well give the maybe
the Rangers or Seattle one of those teams is go
finish one and two, and your astros are going to
be fighting with the age at the botty.

Speaker 1 (57:39):
Because the general manager and the coach and then and
the manager.

Speaker 9 (57:42):
Excuse me, not really not really the general manager, but
your coach, the managers.

Speaker 1 (57:48):
The manager, the coach, manager, Yeah, this is this will
be his third year.

Speaker 13 (57:51):
Yes, yes, Joe is spotted his third year. Yes, yeah, yeah,
yeah yeah.

Speaker 2 (57:57):
Give it to the Rangers or.

Speaker 13 (57:58):
Give it to the Mariners next year to the division.

Speaker 1 (58:03):
Well, they had Joe Spot this year. They won more
games than the Rangers this year, and they had Joe Spot.

Speaker 13 (58:08):
Well, good luck next year.

Speaker 2 (58:12):
When the season starts in February.

Speaker 1 (58:14):
Why is that. Why is that?

Speaker 2 (58:15):
Jay?

Speaker 1 (58:16):
What? By the way, and starts in late mark What
what did Joe's spot to do that was so bad?

Speaker 9 (58:22):
Well, the rumor was they were going to fire him
and bring back a j hints get you another World series,
But that's throwing out the door.

Speaker 1 (58:31):
So how many world series is aj hinch? One with
the Tigers.

Speaker 14 (58:36):
He's trying to win one.

Speaker 1 (58:37):
Now, go Tigers, Go Tigers, Tigers. Jay, I want to
I want to thank you for this very insightful call
you giving us today as usual, just just bringing it.
Please stay safe on the road out there, folks, Yeah,
especially you J. I mean, I'm assuming Jay's I can
hear the car right, ye, he's driving. Maybe maybe he's
not a hands free even then, by the way, get

(59:01):
home safely, I'm word. Otherwise, I've been using hands free
texting the Siri texting system on my car. Just enunciate
because there have been some things that I've not said,
the Syrian things I'm saying. Just be careful, Yeah, be
careful with there, Matt, so drive. I'm glad you're coming
to my side because I've been telling you use text

(59:21):
a serious of text for years. Absolutely, I'm all for it.
It's just much safer now. People do laugh at some
of the things they get back at me because they're like,
what you can't now?

Speaker 2 (59:30):
Now.

Speaker 1 (59:30):
The thing about Syria that I do live is she
does she will accept swear words. Yes she does, and
I mean vulgar things I say. Also, I like when
you're you're doing that when you're driving and then you
you're like, what the hell is this guy doing?

Speaker 10 (59:46):
Get over?

Speaker 1 (59:47):
And it ends up in your text? Does that ever
happen to you?

Speaker 15 (59:50):
Not?

Speaker 2 (59:51):
Lately?

Speaker 1 (59:52):
Sometimes I'm talking to text and then I rode rage
and then it ends up in the text and I
hit send for fun, just to make it, just see
see what people think. Let's talk to Jerry on seven Ounty. Jerry,
good morning to.

Speaker 12 (01:00:05):
You, Yes, good morning. Uh hey Uh. This conversation about
about the manager reminded me of a comment a couple
of weeks ago that Mac Taggart made, uh saying that
there was more onus on players these days, uh for
a team to be successful. You know, I just completely

(01:00:27):
disagreed with that, uh, because I think it appears that
way because we have so much information on players as
it relates to analytics, uh and and and very little
analytics by the way, on the managers, you know, we
accept the effect of their their decisions, but uh, one

(01:00:49):
of the key variables is the fact that that well won,
We're not in the locker room. And and I mean
I have to think that that that that if I'm
looking at my manager and and he's been to three
World Series as a player, and he's been to a
World Series as a manager, uh, as opposed to uh

(01:01:12):
the uh, the the abilities, I should say, the contiment
of of the Astros current manager. I've got a man
I'm pump uh at from a psychological perspective, and that's
kind of what I saw lacking with the Astros, a
collective psychological winning attitude, you know, and just determined, Uh,

(01:01:36):
in that perspective, I would I would bring the manager
back though, uh, you know, because because he has some chemistry,
it's his own type.

Speaker 5 (01:01:47):
Uh.

Speaker 12 (01:01:47):
The question, uh though, really is is what what what
goes on behind closed doors, you know, in the in
in the management and uh, only Jim Crane and and
the and some of the other associated people really know
what what what The four one one on that is,

(01:02:07):
you know, what would you think about?

Speaker 1 (01:02:09):
Thank you, Jerry, I appreciate it.

Speaker 6 (01:02:10):
Uh.

Speaker 1 (01:02:10):
Yeah, we I cannot give you that answer. Joe Spotta
does not tell me about his private meetings. We have
private meetings here at our company, and we don't tend
to tell you very much. Well, you can figure some
of it out, you probably could, but not everything. Yeah,

(01:02:32):
as long as your players don't in twenty twenty five,
you you do need managers where who are players managers?
And who the players like? And I'm not in that
clubhouse every day, but just from things that I've seen
in the way that people act there, everything's all right.
People like Joe Spotta. He's very he works with the guys.
He's out Yeah, he's out there. He hits fly balls

(01:02:54):
and ground balls with them, he's out there doing drills
with them. He's almost it's like he's still basically like
the bench coach or a positional coach. He's interacting with them.
He's very good with them. They play hard. This championship
winning attitude is something we just assigned whether or not
they won one more game than they actually did. So
Joe Spott is doing a good job. I think the

(01:03:14):
players like him. Most of the decisions he has to make,
I'm not going to say are pre made. But you
have all the analytics and matchup data and all that
type of stuff kind of at your feet as long
as you have somebody who's doing their job correctly, which
Joe Spott does, as far as the attention to detail
and being prepared for those types of things. Yeah, pre
seven to ten. I don't know how much Joe gets involved.

(01:03:35):
Quite I mean I would not say one hundred percent,
but quite a bit. Once ten hits, it's it's in
his hands. And well, yeah, well, the players just have
to go out there and do it. They have to
do it. Bruce Bochi was two years ago, they won
a World Series and he's a genus manager. Now they're
eighty one. Two years later they're eighty one and eighty

(01:03:55):
one and they're out. Yeah, what change he found how
to miss Bochi's old He forgot how to manage, or
they have worse players here?

Speaker 2 (01:04:03):
Let again get hereby getting tamped your let getting tamped here.

Speaker 1 (01:04:09):
Let me get tamped here again, tap here, let me
get here, let me get tampaed. All right, this is
the most cathartic half hour of the week. If you
want to tell somebody to shut their bumb mass up,
I don't think I can explain much more than that
seven one three, two one two five. Call in splain
what's going on at the very end, tell them this

(01:04:30):
shut so bum mess up man. Yes, I'm in the office.
How's your mind? You having the keys of the Mondays?
Somebody tells me in case of Mondays, No, I ain't.
I'm gonna get time for that. It's Wednesday, Matt. You
have the Hey are they walking? And go happy Homeday?

Speaker 2 (01:04:48):
Shut up.

Speaker 16 (01:04:51):
Up?

Speaker 1 (01:04:51):
Is guess what it is? A two piece of something whatever?
All right, I really really really disagree with how the
NFL or the Arizona Cardinals handle their coach. Now, Johnathan
Gannon may have a few screws loose, but the fact

(01:05:13):
that he got fined one hundred thousand dollars for telling
Himri Deu Marcado what a piece of blank he was
for dropping the ball in the end zone is ridiculous. Now,
I guess it was him pushing his hand away or
whatever was the reason why they got one hundred thousand dollars. Fine,
but sometimes your coach needs to tell a particular player

(01:05:36):
you're an idiot. The every I guarantee this ross. Every
NFL team has talked to running backs, cornerbacks, receivers, quarterbacks,
anybody get across the goal line, then drop the ball.
Get well across it, like five yards zep in the
end zone. Yes, and when Mert Demurcado didn't do it,
costing his team a touchdown that would have ultimately given

(01:05:58):
them the win. Gotta be pissed. This isn't a teachable moment.
This isn't ninth grade. This isn't even college football. This
is pro football, where everybody is judged on wins and losses.
Eric Zona Cardinals, shame on you for finding your coach
one hundred thousand dollars. Shut your ballasses up, trash ass franchise. Wow,

(01:06:23):
I just look, he shouldn't have touched him because you
lose credibility in that point. But he was pissed, and
I don't blame him, And I'm like, he said, hey, look,
de Mercado, could have you know? I said, you want
to touch me, I'll come come watch his hands in
mind hit your nose. But he didn't want to do
that because he knew he screwed up. He literally costs

(01:06:45):
his team a chance at a legitimate victory. I I
I don't have any tolerance any longer for these players
that are dropping the ball short of the goal on
I just there is absolutely no excuse. They've all been
warned over and over and over, and I just I
find it pathetic that a coach can't go over there
and chew a guy's ass out. That's yeah, that's what

(01:07:08):
I want to say. Ross, Thank you, Matt, thank you.
I appreciate that. Who's going next to me? Sure? Do
I even mention the publication? Certainly not gonna mention the writer.
Did you see this headline? I did. Many people are
having a bad year in college football, but march Manning
is having one of the worst. The quarterback has gone
from preseason HEUS and Trophy favorite and projected number one

(01:07:30):
pick to a man synonymous with failure. Okay, let's relax.
I understand there was a ton of hype and arch
Manning has not lived up to that, and he hasn't
been very good, and I'm not super optimistic that he
is gonna get good. But to put this out there
just to use his name to try and get clicks,
that's what this is. A man synonymous with failure is

(01:07:52):
arch Manning, who's made a handful of starts in his
college football career. I'll say it, the athletic shut y'all
my mess up shit Tobam mass up Man six months ago.
Arch Manning was never synonymous with anything, maybe not playing
a whole lot of money. I mustonymous with nil deals. Yeah,
and don't call me unless you got seven it says,

(01:08:14):
is arch Manning college football's first flop? What what is it?
Have you been watching college football for one year now?
You don't go after people directly on Twitter? Sometimes go
off that person? No, not, just see what you want
to do? Go pull out on Clinton? Yeah it works.
I don't think I want to pull any Adam Clintons

(01:08:35):
in life. Oh come on, just do one for me.
Maybe some go see what he says. Not Adam, but
that guy I don't even know his name, And this
is this tweet that I have, doesn't even have his
name mentioned. That's some guy named Will something, college football
writer whatever. Just he doesn't deserve the just terrible Jonathan.

(01:08:56):
What's the matter with you? Uh?

Speaker 10 (01:08:58):
I'm at the point now I'm getting really tired of
the national sports media against Uh. With the Cleveland Browns,
I saw a video of media personnel trying to find
your door at a college dealership or a car dealership.
Excuse me asking him how he feels about him being
QB two last week he paramimed his answers and then

(01:09:21):
you want to go with pantami pantamime, sorry and hunt
him down to ask him about how do you feel
about being a roster up? When he didn't earn that,
He didn't gain it. Someone just got traded. It's just
it's you guys are doing it for clifts at this point,
and it doesn't He's not even giving you, guys what
you want. It's just gonna feel more hate rather than
the attention you want for your platform. Does that make sense?

(01:09:43):
And it's just and ibody got time for that.

Speaker 1 (01:09:46):
It's over. He's QB two.

Speaker 10 (01:09:48):
Dylan gabrol Over exposed like it's just it's it's it's
almost the same thing with the arts man's situation, like
do we really care about this anymore?

Speaker 1 (01:09:55):
M Yeah, R Door is still getting a lot of headlines,
way too many for guidance. Tak going to snap yet,
but that it'll all dissipate. The fifteen minutes will be
over worth until he gets the opportunity and then if
he can, if he's successful, gets a chance to get
us fifteen minutes back. You'll perform or we won't. All right? Uh,
we have D Man and Gil want to talk legit astros.

(01:10:15):
I don't know if they want to do such a
bump ass up. The only person on the line right
now that anybody got time for something is Brad. You
know I'm gonna seeing back. He getn't called in a while,
and then's too straight. Anything was great? Yeah, I know,
But let me ask you this. If anybody else wants
to jump in from the breeze, please pause, because D
Man and Gil those are legit Astra calls, Well, you didn't.

(01:10:35):
Why do you want to stink though? You want to
sneak him in here? Or do you wonder what those
two kinds?

Speaker 17 (01:10:41):
Sure?

Speaker 1 (01:10:41):
Why I still sneak him in? He don't even know
we're not doing anybody got time for that? Uh? D
Man's calling us in shiner, d Man, what do you
got this morning? Hey?

Speaker 5 (01:10:48):
Hey, maybe Brad sneak it in uh to other uh
to other shows. He's sneaking in around here.

Speaker 12 (01:10:55):
Yesterday he called in.

Speaker 5 (01:10:57):
So to the morning show so that you I just
want to warn everybody about that. But hey, I'm calling
about well, I'm calling about the medical staff for the astros.
My wife works for inter Milan in Milan, Italy, and uh,
what's the name of that, what's the name of that
division group of anyway, Yeah, and anyway, she she says,

(01:11:23):
she said, they are so far ahead of because I
spent my kids, my grandchildren little astro hats and that,
and told her about all the injuries. And she started
talking about what they do as soon as you become
a member. I can't remember. She's either ac Milan or
inter Milan. But what they do are x rays, MRI's

(01:11:44):
MRIs of the new player, and they can tell down
to the millimeter the ligaments and this, that, this, and
every three months everybody has to go through and do
it again, and they can start to see if your
tendons are starting just starting to rupture or just slightly

(01:12:07):
ten or there, maybe a little bit is inflaying, but
they're not. The guys aren't talking about the little problem.
And then they'll start even they'll even go as far
as they had him doing stem sales if they think
that something is going on. And I was thinking, you know,
with the spin rates and all this stuff.

Speaker 1 (01:12:23):
All right, Well, I'm sorry we're up against the break, yil.
We appreciate that that was a thrilling conversation, but we're
gonna hit a quick break here. Show with Ross continues
here on Sports Talk seven ninety. All right, se one
three two one two five seveny the phone number if
you want to get in please look, guys, Brad is

(01:12:46):
on hold. Please get ahead of him. Seven one three
two one two five seven ninety is the phone number.
Ain't no body got time for that? Slash? Shut your
bomb ass up, man, Broderick, Go ahead, The floor is yours.

Speaker 2 (01:13:00):
What's up?

Speaker 6 (01:13:01):
Ross? Alright?

Speaker 5 (01:13:02):
Look, man, I had to call just so I could.

Speaker 17 (01:13:05):
Be ahead of bread bread, thank you specifically for you.
Ain't nobody got time for you calling every day with
the horrible gut feelers. Sounded like you've been drunk for
three days already. Then you need to quit regurgitating old
takes when you get blood right out of five, Ain't

(01:13:27):
nobody got time for the bread and shirt though, bullet
ass Ohn.

Speaker 1 (01:13:36):
Brodrick bringing the heat?

Speaker 2 (01:13:37):
What do you mean?

Speaker 1 (01:13:39):
Are you okay?

Speaker 4 (01:13:40):
Yeah?

Speaker 1 (01:13:40):
I'm going great, all right, I'm just responding to some tweets. Yeah,
beef for Brad, Matt Broderick. Had beat for brad Oh,
by the way, we got a new name of our show.
What's now The babbling idiots said that. I will tell
you right now who told us that? Uh well, Jane
Iiman hates us and he calls he calls us two

(01:14:02):
babbling Yeah, who are the two babbling idiots? So that's cool.

Speaker 3 (01:14:06):
Cut your ball, cancer, babe, cut your ball canty.

Speaker 1 (01:14:11):
Why am I saying I hate Williams song? Are you okay?

Speaker 7 (01:14:14):
No?

Speaker 1 (01:14:14):
I'm not all right. I called for people to get
ahead of brad Les's last chance, last chance to get
seven one three two one two five seven. I even
know we're a little bit of delight, so we'll give
it about a minute here seven one three two one
two five seven Nati seven one three two one two
five seven at your last chance to get in before
Brian gets in with this. Anybody got time? But the
bit the news at noon coming up, which will feature

(01:14:35):
the Rockets back on the floor tonight taking on the
Utah Jazz and uh Kevin Durant will be playing that
game tonight. You excited? Yes? Sorry, I was reading these
angry tweets, but yeah, we're getting we're getting crushed. Well
just two guys. M hmm, that's a sham. Yeah, that's fine. Yeah, well,

(01:14:58):
Michael Madronald says the Beatles suck, but your show rocks.
I mean, I'll take that. I guess it's good. It
beats the alternative. H. T. D. Miller says Matt and
Ross arguing over tacos is not good sports radio. Their
dribble at lunchtime is horrible. Uh, thank you. I guess
we if we we argued over tacos, we uh, maybe

(01:15:22):
we do. Maybe we we argue our food occasionally and
we do. You know, well, I guess we can't cuss
and excuse the Jenson's again. If you won't do that, Okay,
since you missed Broderick, he wants to say, and nobody
else wants to get ahead of Brad. We'll get brought
it back, you know, I'll get Broderick a second chance. Broderick,
I was I stepped away momentarily, Brodery. The flora is
yours take plenty of time?

Speaker 16 (01:15:41):
What's so?

Speaker 1 (01:15:42):
Man?

Speaker 14 (01:15:42):
Yeah?

Speaker 17 (01:15:42):
Man, I saw wish you would have been there for
are I would?

Speaker 1 (01:15:44):
But we go go for round two. Let's go, let's go,
let's go, Brad.

Speaker 17 (01:15:49):
Drag Okay, man, so check this out. Just like the
collar before me said you call in the morning. So
I've heard you all with Carl Thomas Sandy, exact same
thing that you said on the man tamers Ain't nobody
got pub.

Speaker 1 (01:16:05):
Yeah he got a fresher material up and.

Speaker 17 (01:16:08):
Queen hate No Houston, you want to be a soo man,
just join us, man quick, Hayton.

Speaker 5 (01:16:16):
We know you live a ass, so we know you
live the rockets. Indeed, done you lad the Jaxon.

Speaker 17 (01:16:21):
Just go ahead and be who you are man.

Speaker 1 (01:16:24):
Just do that, all right? Brodrick Right, that's right, Love you, Brodrick,
Brendy call any time you want. Brodrick's he's bringing the heat,
fake fire and brimstone. Will hold on, hold on, can't
you can't go to your next Brad online? This is
your old friend is on the line online for who

(01:16:45):
is that? Oh? Oh Brad and Houston or garyan Springer.
He's great. He crushes you about the wave. He does
crush me about the wave. Let's see what Let's see
if he's going else. I didn't make any references the
wave lately. Uh boy, Gary, what's the matter with you? Gary?

Speaker 2 (01:17:03):
Hey?

Speaker 5 (01:17:04):
Guys, I was calling about.

Speaker 15 (01:17:05):
I was listening to the station the other day and
during a break there was a commercial on there and
it was talking about uh, uh uh the Matt Thomas
lunch hour show coming on, and then it and then
it came on a lady came on about uh, she
said something about listening to you and uh and uh

(01:17:25):
something about the food that's in the refrigerator. She said,
what's that? She said in the ladies vote voice, what's
that nasty smell? And then immediately after that, guy came
on and said, just the mat So so ain't nobody
got time for those commercials? Don't play that commercial no more?
Man your show, don't sink it smells good?

Speaker 1 (01:17:44):
Thank you, Thank you very much. Gary, I support Let
me tell you about Gary. Gary and I are friends.
I believe you called him an idiot before. Sometimes what's
that you told get hit by a bus?

Speaker 17 (01:17:55):
Call?

Speaker 1 (01:17:55):
I did well? I mean he didn't get hit, so
well that we know of. Good job, Matt. All right,
Brad holl the hell are you? Brad?

Speaker 14 (01:18:06):
For one, I don't drink and for two, I haven't
called y'all show? And what since yesterday?

Speaker 1 (01:18:15):
Before that week we turned three weeks?

Speaker 14 (01:18:17):
So I guess that guy doesn't really listen to your
show at all.

Speaker 1 (01:18:21):
Yeah, but it sounds like every day because you called
too much.

Speaker 14 (01:18:25):
No, I just call on predictions because I ain't got
time to wait. I worked for a living still and
I don't have time to wait on the phone, so
I don't call except for the prediction. And I took
off a couple of days this week. That's the first
time I've taken off. So now that's why I'm calling.
And my first thing is Gordy. I made a prediction

(01:18:48):
on the morning show that Paradus would play again this year,
and Gordy said, no way, no how, and he said
he'd buy me a steak dinner and he disappeared. Yeah,
and he disappeared after that.

Speaker 1 (01:19:05):
Yeah time. No, that's right. You know Gordy is that way.
He will tell you one thing and then do another.
I totally you know what he for McDonald's. I think
he meant he said. I think he said cracklings from
Alafia gas station is what he said.

Speaker 14 (01:19:21):
No, he said a steak dinner. I told him out
back or I could go Ruth, Chris.

Speaker 1 (01:19:30):
That's a that's quite that's quite a Hey, I told
him out back from Ruby.

Speaker 14 (01:19:36):
Anyway, let me tell you one other one I haven't
heard kept this hitting. Okay. I was out visiting somebody
in the Midtown area. It's a very exclusive, security guard
gated community, and my cars parked on this person's grass

(01:19:59):
because there was no otherwise. You're parking on the street.
All of a sudden, a big black sub plowed into
me out of nowhere. He got out of the car
and said, oh, I'm sorry, I'm sorry, I'm sorry, and
and uh. We exchanged information, and I called the security

(01:20:19):
guard over and to get his name, and it's funny
how his number got disconnated disconnected. Later, I didn't want
to call the police. I was in a loaner car
and it was the brother of the owner of the
Houston Texans. And right away he gave me the insurance.
He wouldn't answer his phone, but he answered his text

(01:20:42):
and he gave me his insurance agent's information and they
need denied anything happened. And it was just home. It
was mysterious, the whole thing. But so I gave the
car back. My car was getting fixed, so I didn't
really care. I mean, it was alone.

Speaker 1 (01:21:02):
Keeping a book right now. We asked, yeah, we asked
on that call. We are good. God, I just said
he got hit by Kerry McNair. I'm assuming it's no.
There's there's more than one brother, right, I think could
be McNair's a running around here. Oh that's coming up,
that's coming up next. Let's do it. Hit the music

(01:21:32):
sixty six WF and your home for Game four America
League Division Series Aaron Freaking Judge and Joe Jazz freaking Chism.
Aaron Judge finally came up big time like Bernie Wayyams
got the big weird barrows there, that right, James and

(01:21:52):
God Oaks.

Speaker 16 (01:21:53):
Hi, James, Well, thank you, thank you for this for
taking my call.

Speaker 5 (01:21:58):
Thank you personally.

Speaker 16 (01:21:59):
Govin Thomas. Listen, Uh, I'm gonna give a quick shout
out to mister Brad over there over there that you
guys are terrorizing for no reason at all, including some
of these hospital uh Houstonians over here. But anyway, you
guys can sort that out. Look these two magpies that
you got over here on this radio station. Man, I
thought Dan Matthews was better than that, but he's just

(01:22:20):
a magpie, just like that.

Speaker 5 (01:22:22):
Cole Thompson, dude.

Speaker 16 (01:22:24):
First of all, if if the if the Houston Sports
thing didn't do wealthy ship man. Just leave it, you know,
put it to rest for now.

Speaker 5 (01:22:32):
Stop trying to, you know, beat.

Speaker 16 (01:22:34):
Down a legendary team like my team.

Speaker 14 (01:22:36):
You know what I'm saying.

Speaker 5 (01:22:37):
I ain't got time for none of that.

Speaker 16 (01:22:38):
There's two magpies over there, man, Ain't nobody got time
for that. Thank you for taking my car.

Speaker 1 (01:22:43):
Anything for you. James On sixty, Philipe seven ninety, Good morning.

Speaker 14 (01:23:02):
Good morning guys, quick one on this a brand. Ain't
nobody that time for you to use it?

Speaker 12 (01:23:07):
The whole stigment time up man.

Speaker 18 (01:23:09):
People got to get into brother.

Speaker 2 (01:23:11):
Come on, man, they nobody got back for that.

Speaker 6 (01:23:13):
But I agree with them on the asers mans go
shut their bumb stuff.

Speaker 1 (01:23:17):
Thank you guys, Thanks up man. Insurance companies they need
to help you. I mean they may they may send
you nice emails and Christmas cards, but they're gonna make
sure you have a difficult time with your claim, that's
for sure. All right. That was interesting, good conversation on
today's edition of such a bum Ass up that unbelievable stuff. Unbelievable.
A lot of long winded calls in we do you

(01:23:39):
give you a little bit of a leash. You're on
the show. We're getting some hate for what what do
we do now? On Twitter streets? Me, I'm just meeting everyone.
It's fine, okay. Seven one three two one two five
seven dotty seven one three two one two five seven
nine zero. Is the Matt Thomas Show with.

Speaker 3 (01:23:59):
Ross six Sports Talk seven on a time now for
us to give you what's happening in the world of
sports as we recap.

Speaker 1 (01:24:08):
Things at the news at noon. Boss what he got
going on today? Yes, mattheel there's a lot of great
stuff to talk about all the news at noon, including
your baseball playoffs, as you had two games yesterday, headlined
by the New York Yankees bouncing back in their series.

(01:24:29):
They're in an two hole against Blue Jays. Aaron Judge
had a big game three for four to four runs
batted in and a home run. He is hitting five
hundred in these playoffs. Yankees get the big nine to
six win, and now with Cam Schlittler on the mound today,
they are minus one seventy five excuse me now, to

(01:24:51):
minus one to eighty favorites against the Blue Jays. Go
blue Jays. He also had the Mariners get a win
they have a two one lead over the Detroit Tigers.
By the way, did you see the stat after the
game last night the Tigers, if you include the postseason,
which is only one game, they have lost eight consecutive

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home games. Aj hinks there do a j hincheson like
winning big games at home. Apparently, Well, it's baseball, Matt,
it is baseball. That would be saying on Detroit radio,
we'd be saying, we're calling for every one's head. I
don't know. Twoh eight. First pitch for the Mariners and
the Tigers today as they looked the bounce back. It

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is a quadruple header in baseball, the last one of
the season. You have Brewers and Cubs four oh eight,
Jays and Yankees six eight, and then the late night
West Coaster it'll be the Dodgers and the Phillies at
eight oh eight. Now, yesterday there was a massive delay
in the Seattle Detroit game, so it was gonna yesterday

(01:25:52):
was a Fox day, the two American League games. They
decided they had to make a decision because they didn't
they're not going to bump the Yankees on national television.
That's just not going to happen. So they took Seattle
Detroit and they put it on the MLB network, which
is a fairly decent reach an FS two who no
one gets basically correct, So they're getting annihilated for the

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such decision. I don't know what was on Fox, the
regular Fox last night, but they're not Boss Singer season
seventy six. Yeah, they're not bumping anything on the regular
channel Seattle Detroit Division series, So it's not happening. It's
unfortunate weather didn't cooperate, but at least they put on
an MLB network, I mean fair number. Now, if you're
in a hotel you want to go watch, you're probably

(01:26:37):
sol But if you were at home and you have
a regular cable or direct TV, you probably had a
pretty good chance of watching it. So again, that's the
breaks when you sign these television deals and you don't
you don't force the networks to put the games on
or over the air television. And by the way, did
you see who was at the game and caught a
foul ball? I did not? Can I guess yes? Is

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it an actress? No actor?

Speaker 10 (01:27:02):
No?

Speaker 1 (01:27:03):
Well kind of an actor, sports musician, actor, musician, a
little musician actor? What I like this person? I think
you love this person bad bunny. Yes, yes, Oh, Jim,
I'm taking very long to figure it out. Some bad
bunny caught a foul ball. Good for him, Jit, or
it's something I handed to him. I didn't see the video, okay,

(01:27:24):
but I think I think he caught it. All right,
let me when we look at the video. No, that's fine,
uh whatever?

Speaker 11 (01:27:31):
All right?

Speaker 1 (01:27:32):
Elsewhere, apparently Kevin Stefanski says not so fast, my friend,
on naming a Chadeur Sanders, the backup quarterback to Dylan
Gabriel apparently practice squad Bailey ZAPPI also in the mix. Look,
I've seen Bailey a little bit. You have Shadoor Sanders
is gonna be better than Bailey Zappy, I would hope. So,

(01:27:54):
I mean it's it's it's Bailey Zappy. But also elsewhere
in the NFL news, did you see a six game
ped suspension accepted by one Odell Beckham Junior? Is he
even playing? No? Isn't easy to accept suspensions when you're
not able to participate or actually on a team. He
failed a ped test while he was a member of

(01:28:16):
the Miami Dolphins. Okay, Beckham insisted that he did not
knowingly take any banned substances. The three time Pro bowler
adding when asked about the PD he tested positive four,
He said they said his testosterone levels were too high.
He will be thirty three years old by the time
the suspension ends. He wants to return to the NFL
this season, said during the apparent there are four franchises

(01:28:39):
he'd be interested in joining, Steelers, Chiefs, Rams, and Giants.
Why the Giants just because he used to his career there,
I guess, Okay, that makes sense. Yeah, and he didn't
say he didn't mention the Titans in there. We're going
back to the Dolphins. He didn't certainly mention the Raiders. No,
or the Texans for that matter. Hey, Texans are good
at wide receiver. Xavier Hutchinson the go all right, is

(01:29:01):
he w R two? Just starting it out there right now?
Christian Kirk But he's in the slot. But who who's
going to make a bigger catch for you right now?
Xavier Hutcheson or Christian Kirk? Irion found the Kurt twice?
That's true. Okay, They're they're all great. Matt, all right,
thank you, and well, do you want anything else for

(01:29:24):
your news at noon? Sure, I mean. The other headlines
include Alan Iverson talking about his sobriety. Oh, Kevin Durantz
starting tonight, and yeah, the Kevin Durant does start for
the Rockets tonight. That'll be a six thirty start on
Astro's radio network, Astro Rockets Radio Hotwork.

Speaker 2 (01:29:41):
Whatever.

Speaker 1 (01:29:42):
Sorry, I mean, I guess I'm moving it into Rockets mode.
There are some Astro affiliates Rockets. I haven't flipped the
switch yet. I think you have. I think the case
in point was you have not to flip the switch. Yeah,
right here on Sports Talk sevennighting in Houston, Alan Iverson
discussing his new memoir Misunderstood on ESPN's first take by
oh wait, the Yannis rumors are not going away. Bobby

(01:30:03):
Marks out there talking about Yeah, but he's not an
Intel guy, really right, I don't think he is. He's
saying they can fit the Rockets with a he's a
capologies type of guy. But he also said the Rockets
would move a men Thompson to make that happen. I
don't see it. Ross. I know you and I have
disagreed about that. I think a men's untouchable, I really do,

(01:30:23):
and I know you're not gonna I know, like it
was for Jiannis. I get it. It's still think it's
a VP of the lio of this guy who has
been an MVP. I'm just saying, men, Thompson. Look, I'm
just gonna say it. Men, Thompson is not winning NBA
and VP. I mean, you want to call that? Come
back to me in a few years. You know what
a man, if you're listening, which you're not, now, you've
got a little bit of motivation. He's certainly not winning

(01:30:47):
two of them like Yiannis did Jannis last year thirty
points per game, sixty percent from the field, and he's
a perennial Defensive Player of the Year candidate. Dude Giannis
and Durambi on the Florida at the same time. Why not?
I guess I can figure it out. Yeah, what do
you mean? That sounds amazing? How could anybody score? They
just stand the finger to finger and you cover the

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whole court the wingspan. Yeah, one's one's the best downhill
player in the game. One's a plus forty percent three
point shooter. Last year, Janis NBA All First Team eighth
in the Defensive Player of the Year rankings. He's finished
top ten in the Defensive Player of the Year for
seven straight years. If Jannis goes anywhere, he's going to
New York. All the signs are showing in that. Not

(01:31:31):
that every sign. I love him, N Thompson. I know
I love him. N. Thompson. You're hoping that AMN Thompson
turns into what Jannis is. I can end it with that.
Probably not happen. Oh, I don't think. I don't know
if the Rockets are a practice going man, come on,
a man, get closer to honest. I think he just
wants to be his own player. No, no, he wants to
be his own player. But I'm talking about trading for

(01:31:53):
that guy. He's not untouchable in a trade for Yannis
to me, Okay, even the Jannis is thirty, here's my thought.
He's like fifty million dollars a year or something. You
the contracts and all that stuff too. All right, we're
gonna we're gonna discuss more of this comeback because I
just while in theory, Yannis is super special and if

(01:32:13):
y'anna sign here tomorrow, I'd be losing my mind like
I lost with my mom with Kevin Durant. Okay, but
I want to I want you to kind of see
my side a little bit. I see it. He's very good. Okay,
but that's like, yeah, you don't think age and Where
and Tear has some factor of why you wouldn't make
the deal. I don't understand more. When we come back,

(01:32:34):
I'm gonna hit her breaks. Oh this time, because I
gotta tell people about the show Federal Credit Union Ross. Okay. So,
and I'm gonna probably do a poor job of explaining this.
But this is just you and I sit at the
bar having a beverage talking this over.

Speaker 2 (01:32:54):
Okay.

Speaker 1 (01:32:56):
Yannis is a one of the greatest players ever to
play in the NBA, and he's one of the most
difficult guys to guard. He's also an outstanding defensive player
all the things, and has been I want to say,
for the most part, fairly durable in his NBA career, right,
not a lot of injuries, well, not a ton, but
he's uh. Last year he played sixty seven games, last
five a few years seventy three, sixty three, sixty seven,

(01:33:18):
sixty one games. He's had some injuries. This might be
a weak argument back to you. I do believe Where
and Terror does play a prime factor in my decision
that I wouldn't move him in a men's in his
third season. He's still growing into his body, still growing
into his role might ultimately be I mean, Crescendo an

(01:33:42):
average three point shooter, but everything else, I think he
can be exemplary. He can play multiple positions. I'm not
building my team exclusively around him Ross, I'm not trying
to put that kind of MVP status on him, but
I can. I need layers to win a championship. I
don't need one guy to get rid of three really

(01:34:02):
really good young guys and hope that Jannis is gonna
be able to take me by myself all the way.
I can't imagine the Bucks would not be asking for
a complete, massive haul. That would not just be draft picks,
it would be current players, and among my current players,

(01:34:22):
Amen Thompson, in my world, call me falling wrong on
this is my untouchable. That's all I'm saying. That's all
I'm saying. And again that may be not the logical argument,
but it's just me speaking. Okay, would you trade them
for Nikola Jokic?

Speaker 2 (01:34:39):
Uh?

Speaker 1 (01:34:40):
Well, it's not gonna be straight up the answers. Yes,
But these aren't gonna be straight up deal untouchable. Yeah,
Jianness for aman, wouldn't be untouchable, wouldn't be wouldn't be
for straight up I'm just trying to gauge how far
you're going with this, because to me, Joannice is a
two time MVP. He averaged thirty points per game last
year and he's finished top ten and then the Defensive Player
of the Year. And to me, this is you're banking

(01:35:05):
on the youth and the potential of him and Thompson
and what he could be. But the reality is I
just pulled up that list we were talking about the
other day that top one hundred basketball players of all time.
This is of all time. Jannis is twenty fourth on
this list of all time. And thirty years old isn't
the death now that it used to be. If he

(01:35:25):
can still slow I mean, you could be worried about
him slowing down because he's not a great three point shooter,
and you can be concerned about that, And if you
want to bring salary cap implications into it, I get it.
But the bottom line is I would trade away Yannest
if it gets you. I mean, thirty years old is
still your prime. He'll turn thirty one in December, in

(01:35:48):
the prime of the twenty fourth best player of all.
Also that I canna own for you here. And this
might be a different conversation if Fred van Vliet is healthy.
But if since Fred's not, if you get of a
man Thompson, if you were, I'm not Again, I want
to make sure we're very clear. This is just us talking.
This is not us. This is no speculation to this. Yeah,
I don't think he's gonna be Jannis is not coming

(01:36:08):
to the Rockets in my opinion. But my point is
if you moved to men Thompson, who's who's handling your
point you're gonna is a point? I mean he's you're
not handling. Gianness is not gonna handle the ball six
percent of the time. There's no chance. Six and a
half sists last year. That's really good for a big man.
But Nikolai Okitch brings the ball up occasionally, does at
primarily run the offense fun. You can have somebody else

(01:36:29):
you figure it out. I don't know if I was.
You don't necessarily normally have the old school floor Bob
Coosey floor general, who's out there getting ten assists? And
scoring five points. I think it would happen. There was
a point guard on their championship team that the that
the Milwaukee Bucks won, Drew Holliday, wasn't it. I'm actually

(01:36:50):
don't know. Yeah, I think I mean Drew Holliday is
more of it, like a two or three? Right? When
did they win the championship twenty was? It wasn't? It
wasn't uh the aggie player, Uh, Milton christ It wasn't
Chris Middleton. It's more who ran the point for them? Exactly?
I don't know, but it was good, but it wasn't.

(01:37:11):
I mean, Bobby Portus had a huge role on that team.
Brook Lopez had a huge part of that team. I mean,
you don't have to have.

Speaker 9 (01:37:20):
Me?

Speaker 1 (01:37:20):
Is that I I need multiple players now again Duran
and and yeah, honest would be would be quite formidable
for sure. But if you're you'd have to probably give
up Jabbari A men multiple draft picks now is Jabbari?
Could you move him for the right player? Of course

(01:37:40):
you could, But now you're looking at he's got a
bran new contracts. I don't know, It's just there's just
something in my craw this is I that a man,
I just don't want to touch. And maybe I'm just
too Maybe I'm just too much, too big a fan
of his. I love versatility. I love a guy that
could play four different positions. I love a guy that's
got amazing athletic ability, really good court awareness, and he's

(01:38:05):
twenty two years old. Well, I can't wait to see
him the next time. He's a fantastic young player. Love
his attitude, love everything about him. He's not Yannis No,
and he wouldn't, and he wouldn't be that. He would
be the first to tell you he's not y honest.
I just well, I guess I'm afraid of the collateral
damage ross that would be coming up that trade, what
would have to go back maybe with the Knicks are

(01:38:28):
saying the same thing. I mean, I don't. I don't know.
I don't know what the next situation is in players
and salaries or whatnot. But I don't see him staying
in Milwaukee. I just don't. I think he's gonna have
come to Jesus and realize that even in this uberly
highly competitive Eastern Conference not necessarily championship board, that there's
probably three or four other teams he'd either go to
and get a little bit of an easier path to
go to the NBA Finals. And I don't think it's
gonna be Milwaukee, m but Dad, And again it's not

(01:38:53):
necessarily rumors, it's just one guy asking about it now.
I will say this, I do believe that if the
Reed Shepherd experiment does not work here for a while
and the team is not necessarily underperforming but not getting
to the satisfaction, that the Rockets will kick the tires
on trying to find another guard. They've already asked for
an injury exemption which will give them a little bit
more caps. Basically, get somebody. Now, the question will be

(01:39:15):
who would they be. The most prolific guard that is
out there is looking for work is Russell Westbrook. I
think people get the hebgb's when they talk about Russell Westbrook,
as they probably should. All Right, the assist leaders on
that twenty one Bucks team was Drew Holiday six point

(01:39:36):
one assists per game, five point nine for Giannis, and
then Chris Middleton had five. Okay, so you got got
eleven assistant game from your from your guards. I mean, clearly, honest,
was the reason why they won the championship? No, no,
argument on that, and I do. I'm a big Giannis fan. Again,
If tomorrow somebody said, Matt the Rockets are getting get us,
I'd lose my mind, like I lost my mind with
Kevin Durant. But I just, I guess what. I'm just

(01:39:58):
afraid of how much has to go back, and I
think the price would be too rich. Okay, I think
Amen Thompson is a great player with all star potential.
I mean, and I think Giannis is one of the
all time greats. He's he's just behind. I won't say
I could be wrong. Amn's young. Maybe a men will
ascend to one of the top twenty players in all
time history. Well, that's unfair for him to put them.

(01:40:22):
If you give me time one of the top twenty
players today in the NBA, I wouldn't move them. If
I got a top twenty guy on my team, it's
gonna help me win a championship today. I'm not worried
about his past resume. I'm taking Amen Thompson. If Amen
Thompson turns into a top twenty player defensively is already there.
It's the offensive stuff that that's of the concern at
this point. Okay, let me see ESPN does a list

(01:40:44):
of the top one hundred every year. Let's see when
did this come out? September twenty third. When's the rest
of it? They only did the top fifty. You know
what we can Let's just let's see how things pan out.
Let's see where men takes the next step. I like
him in Thompson again, I'll say I hate average and

(01:41:05):
I averaged thirty points per game and sixty percent field goal.
He ain't. He's just not. But he doesn't need to
not in this squad. Yeah, you know, he doesn't need
to Kevin Durant, don't you know? And again can Durant?
Is there enough basketball for Durant and intent? The goop
will be on the flot same time, if you were
to do something something like that, Yes, okay, you get

(01:41:25):
into that quickly. That's fine.

Speaker 2 (01:41:27):
I know.

Speaker 1 (01:41:28):
These Megan teams sometimes don't work. Sometimes it don't work beautifully.

Speaker 2 (01:41:32):
Yeah.

Speaker 1 (01:41:33):
Sometimes they worked just fine, Yes they did, other times
not so much. Well, that's also the definition of people
calling like the Clippers, Oh there's super teams, like are
they a super team? And yeah, nobody ever plays. Yeah,
if they're they're not healthy, if they're injuring if they're
load managing. Kevin Durant was supposed to be on a
super team with the Phoenix Suns. Mm hmm, but I

(01:41:56):
got that went south? Really here were under five hundred, Yeah,
got coaches fired and players leaving leaving left and right.
All right, that was just a good fot of there.
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We'll discuss that coming back in a minute. Seven one
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Speaker 8 (01:43:00):
Well.

Speaker 1 (01:43:00):
If you all want to be nice to us. We'd
appreciate that. If you want to be rude to us,
it's fine too, but we will bounce, we'll we will
fight you maybe a couple of times, but otherwise, thank
you for listening. It means about luck to us, or
you might get muttered to blocks one of the two,
one of the three seven one three two one two
five seven unty. So basically, uh, Nick Cassari was asked

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yesterday about the lack of offensive line firepower that the
team has had. Okay, and it feels like to me
that's when the second straight year where they have not
been uber aggressive on going to get offensive linemen. They
have not necessarily spent a lot of money. There has
been a lot a lot of wealth, uh draft capital
spent on it, and Cassario basically kind of fought back

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a little bit on it. I want to curre us
your thoughts on it, basically saying that, uh, we did
our due diligence, we did make the calls, we did
invest in try to find some better offensive linemen, and
that sometimes things just don't work out. So do you

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go when when Casarro says something like that, and I'll
find the exact quote here in just a minute. Do
you go, okay, that makes a lot of sense, Thanks
Nick for helping clarify. Or do you go this is
really cool and everything, but your job is either to
get the player, and if you don't get the player,
it doesn't make any difference because he's not here.

Speaker 2 (01:44:23):
Yeah.

Speaker 1 (01:44:23):
Like, for instance, the Astros many years ago put together
an offer to get Carlos Belt trying to stay with
the Astros. He went to the New York Mets, and
dra mclan at the time was like, you know, hey,
we put an offer in front of him, but if
you don't get the player, you don't get bonus points
for putting the offer in front of him. It'd be
like the Astros saying, well, we put an offer in
front of Alex Bragman. It was his decision, okay, but

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you don't have him. You don't you don't wait, you
don't get points for that. I think it would be
more more like saying, the Astros didn't address first base
this year, Well he tried first base is one very
good Yeah, Christian Walker, we like the signing now. Cam
Robinson obviously not the level of a Christian Walker for
and it's a little bit apples and oranges, of course,
but they drafted two second round picks in the last

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couple of years at tackle. If you had a hit
on them now, Ursery of course will steal. The jury's
still out on him. He's getting a little bit better
when he doesn't have to go against you know, top
pass rushers in football, which he did the first couple
of weeks of the season in Jared Versus and Josh
Heines Allen or that was a week three hunhs. But
when you're not going against top guys, you can get

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yourself a little bit more time. And he's still got
to find, you know, his level. He is a second
round pick as well. Blake Fisher was a second round pick.
If he'd a hit and he was in right now
for Titus Howard and you were able to kick him
into guard, you'd be talking about how great this offensive
line is. If Kenyan Green, Blake Fisher, and Ursery were
all hits, you're talking about, you know, top ten offensive

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line in football. So they're trying. I agree with Nick
Casario that he tried. He's just whiffing. He's failing and
reading away. Cam Robinson is because you you that was
pre draft. You didn't know that you were gonna end
up with a tackle. It was an insurance policy. And
well they're going to roll with arianta ursery and see
how good he can come and become. I think the

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I think what Casaro's is assuming is that we didn't
think he made phone calls. Well, of course, we'd think
you made phone calls, and people aren't normally just giving
up franchise left tackles. Wait, you did well. I mean,
I don't think Nick Cassariro was moving Laramie Tunseel and said,
we you know what, what can I go find out there?
That's good? I mean I don't. I don't doubt that
he didn't try. I mean that's not that's not what

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a general manager can do and keep his job. I
don't think he said we're happy with what's in the
building right now. I don't think that was the case.
But the reality is this, if you move Larimie Tunsseel on,
which they did, there aren't solid rows. I'm not talking
about all pro I'm talking about just solid guys sitting
around looking for free agent deals. If you get good tackles,

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especially left tackles, you do everything in your power to
keep them. So of all the categories on a football
team that's perhaps the hardest to replace its offensive line.
And that's why I think that where the if you
really wanted to criticize where maybe Casario went wrong, is
that if the draft doesn't fix it one year loss,

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you got to try to go back to that draft
to fix it again. And I think that's where the
issue was. That they had an opportunity to go get
another first round pick at an offensive line position, knowing
they were going to get rid of Larrmy Tunsil, and
they chose to trade out of the first round to
go get some receivers who may be very good, but
that wasn't priority number one going in, and so that's

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where I think, uh, there's maybe a little bit of
discindt Casario can't assume that we didn't think he was trying.
But also Casario doesn't. You can't. You can't say, well,
at least you try, we appreciate it. You have to execute.
You have to get depth at every position, and if
there's one position that has plagued this team for the
last couple of years, that continues to be a worry spot,

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even though they had two straight weeks where because where
CJ's been mostly upright. It doesn't necessarily mean the next
Internet weeks are gonna be significantly better because you will
see some good pass rushes. We saw the certainly the
pass rush against Tampa was good. We saw the Rams
in week one was spectacular. And you know, I don't know,
it's question asked answered, But it doesn't necessarily mean that

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I'm all of a sudden saying well, Nick, you're not
hell without responsibility for this offensive line because at least
you tried. Yeah. Well, also, we don't know where they
had certain tackles on that board. I mean, let's see
LSU's Will Campbell, Armann Membu who has been very good,
but he went number seven, and Calvin Banks I think

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has been solid out of Texas for the Saints. He
went number nine. Then the next tackle taken was Josh
Connerley Junior by the Commanders at twenty nine. Where did
they trade out at twenty five? I think yes, let
me see where all old Josh Connery is on your people.

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You gotta check PFF grade. Josh Connerley is fifty ninth
rated for tackles, Arianta Air Series fifty eighth, So rise
of now they're both kind of mid as well they
should be. And then Josh Simmons for the Chiefs, is
having a decent year. Who I like Josh Simmons. I thought,
you know, as long as his he he was going
to be the first tackle off the board until he
suffered a bad injury with Ohio State. And that was

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one of the names that I was kind of curious
why they didn't feel like they needed to go down
that avenue. Will Campbell, right now, this is just tackles,
is pff. It's one data point they have, Will Campbell
twenty seventh and let me see Josh Simmons is rated
thirty first out of tackles out of seventy one rated tackles.
Speaking of PFF, let's go look, let's see it right now.

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You want to do it right now? Write this second.
Let's honor the Texans offensive line for their very good
work against a very bad raven scene that was injury.
It riddled. Uh hold on, I'm scrolling way, you can't scroll.
They should be higher up than scrolling. What do you
mean now? They were thirty thirty second, then they were
thirty first last week, and now they are twenty ninth. Baby,

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charging up the rankings.

Speaker 4 (01:50:20):
Let's go.

Speaker 1 (01:50:22):
So it's a cut over the Ravens, it's a cumulative grade.
Then all right, there you go. Only three pressures and
no sacks. Wait, I thought I thought he was sacked twice. No, no, no,
he was definitely sacked. Maybe they're putting those on CJ.
Stroud because they also grade. Okay, I could see that.
I thought he was sacked twice for seventeen yards. Well,

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thank you to the Poonhounds for giving us information there. Yeah,
thank you. If you know, if you listen to the show
last week, you know e'zacly what we're talking about. Uh,
Juice scrugs negative grade on twenty seven percent of run plays,
which is the second worst rate among all guards. Ingram,
it's been their best offensive lineman who they literally picked

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up off the scrap heat. Congratulations in Nick Casario. Yeah,
addressing ed Ingram, I mean addressing the offensive line by
picking up the great at Ingram. To be fair to
Casario again, how many great tackles and guards are sitting
around on a beach going I can now put myself
out there to sign any amount of money I want to. Don't.

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Typically teams that have good they keep left franchise left
tackles and or right tackle. If we're on thirty two
sports shows in thirty two NFL markets, we're all saying,
we gotta win in the trenches. We've got to build
our offensive line. It's just not that easy. Yeah, but
that's why I think you do. I think they do
even if things get better with this offensive line, because
certainly at this point they can get a whole lot worse.

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You have to address this offseason. Ed Ingram is the
number one rated guard in football at Ingram Yes, now,
look he's got eighty four this year. Last year he
had a fifty four and a fifty nine before that.
If you and I went to a sports bar right
now and say what do y'all think about Ed Ingram?
Do you think the average one probably fan. We need

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to be more knowledgeable than an average sports fan. Matt, let's go,
I don't disagree. We want to provide information. We want
all of you here's what entertain and inform, Yes, in
order mostly entertained. Yeah, I want you all to go
to your friend's house tonight, or go to a pub,
or maybe you want to talk to your lady. You're

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not whispering things. You see edd Ingram's PF fifth grade.
He's eighty four. I'm gonna try that home tonight. Okay,
I'm sweet talker, lady looking good. You know it will
look good. Eddingram in past pro I don't think that's
going to work particularly well, Go for it. See what happens.

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Actually run block grades. What he's really been doing?

Speaker 2 (01:52:51):
Well?

Speaker 1 (01:52:55):
No, seriously, I want taxis. Run blocking has been among
not like top five in football, but I think top
half of well, it may be better than the runners.
Pass blocking not great. Seriously, here's your homework for tonight.
I want you all to go, uh, maybe it's your
water cooler. Maybe you guys are in a group chat.
I want you all to talk about ed Ingram tomorrow
and see what kind of buzz you get back. Hey,

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do you know who the number one PFF graded guard is?

Speaker 2 (01:53:19):
Baby?

Speaker 1 (01:53:20):
And then she's like, what does PFF mean? It's the
poonhunt of football evaluators. That's right, that's gloss by us.
By the way, I want, Oh, you know what, I'm
gonna look at these defensive line rankings. How do arianta
Ursery do this past week? That's what I'm really working
week by week. It's not done particularly well, give me
a second. The pff ers don't like him for too much.

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He's rated fifty ninth out of seventy or fifty eighth
out of seventy one tackles. So he's been the category
of you know, rookie guy, I get it. Twelve forty
five Sports Talk seven out of this is a Matt
Thomas Show. A ross. We've got to believe it or
not today at one to fifty ross, what is today's category?
What I know? It's only an hour and five mins aday.
The show's moving fast. We all want to get to

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talk a little bit of rockets. We talked a little
bit about a under a under talked about a lineman
for the Houston Texans. Mm hmm. We got Joe A.
Spotta and Dana Brown coming back for twenty twenty six.
By the way, we've talked about this a little bit
off air, very a little bit on air. There's one

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thing that Dana's you gotta do right, number one most
important thing for twenty twenty six, right, sign a picture. Well,
we'll see if you and I agree on that. When
we were tokay twelve forty six, it is the Matt
Thomas Show. Was ross seven one three two one two
five seven ninety seven one three two one two five
seven nine zero. All right, we gotta save the what's

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important for the astros in twenty six top of the
Art because I just got a d M from a listener,
and the DM from the listener something terrible about anything,
said nudies. No, I would hope not. I hope this
person would not send me those. Okay, we were talking,

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I believe, yesterday about the bands and how crazy stuff
can happen on band trips. Okay, okay, yes, so I
think we kind of said, hey, if there's ever been
issues or experiences in the band, let us know. This person,
who will not identify as a person, said the following,

(01:55:36):
I can neither it's he says. He says that I
can either confirm. I think neither confirm nor deny. But
as a former member of the Spirit of Houston gokoogs
and being completely honest, and I want to be anonymous
on this topic if it's mentioned and you won't mention
your name, by the way, I can confirm things happen
on the bus and band trips, in the hotel rooms,

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things that would make adult sites blush. Happened at times.
That's it. So I was right. Band trips can get crazy, Okay,
I just want to point that out. They weren't singing.
They may may have been singing good been dancing, and

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they were definitely romancing. Eight hours bus Lobbick to Houston Rossy.
Things like that happen, they just do. I've got nothing
to say, that's fine. I just want to point it
out that thanks Matt, thanks to a listener who I'm
not going to mention his name. Okay. I just want

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to say that you people want to tell you stuff
in as long as you keep them anonymous. That's what
anonymous sources are for. So if you want to go
see the Spirit of the Cougars, get one of them
band trips, and the rest is what happens on the
bus stays in a bus clearly not were you telling

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mad about it in your DMS? But I don't. I
didn't mention a person's name, okay, Okay. Now, a couple
of minutes left to go in the show. No, I
actually got an hour left. Wesed to go three hours.
Now we're going. Man three used to be a piece
of cake making. It's getting into the fourth out You'll
be fine, Matt, make your big bucks. Come on now,
I'm trying all right. Seven one three two one two
five seven ninety seven one three two one two five seven.

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Joe Flacco is starting already at Green Bay for the Bengals.
Now is Browning hurt or is he healthy and just a
healthy streate healthy? I thought it must really Zach Taylor
must really hate Jake Browne. They had two straight games
of three points score. Now, they did score some points late.
I don't if the Lions let off on the gas,
but that that that game was never really in down. Wow,

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you know the reality is ross. You're just never going
in getting bench for a forty year old who was
just on another team like three days ago. Yeah, who
got benched. Oh, by the way, he got benched by
the team he was previously on. Like, dang, Joe Flacco's
coming over here and taking my job in three days?
How about this forty year old Joe Flacco's taking my job,

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Not some whippersnapper, twenty three year old's third round pick
who's got a lot of promise. It's four year old,
really damn old, throwing a lot of passes thrown on interceptions,
can't move quarterback. That's that's gotta be disheartening. Jake Browning,
wherever you are, I hope you're whatever makes you happy.
Ice cream, Well, he probably doesn't row any cookie. Well,

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he's got his, he's got his faculties at least would
presume true. Whatever it is that makes you happy. I
hope you enjoy that today, Jake Browning, because it's rough,
because man, you got bench for a forty year old
who's been on the team for about thirty six hours. Yeah,
we're gonna get him up to speed, meaning we're going

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to make him sit in the film room and study
everything humanly possible because we want no way, no part.
And by the way, his first game, we're gonna show
him your film and say, don't do that. They're playing
Green Bay this week. How's that gonna work out for him?
I don't know. I tried to pick them up on waivers.
I don't think I got him. I didn't either. Everybody
that assume that was the hot pick, that was definitely
the one. So I got the Cardinals defense this week,

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I'm not looking for I got the Steelers instead. That's
a good consolation price. Dylan Gabriel's first start. Yeah toorrels
looking to go five and one, suffered our first losses
past week. That's a shame because part of this is
Kyler Murray suck. I'm one and four, that's fine. And
the team I lost too didn't even start one of
their players. He just fought up, forgot, he forgot, and

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still I still lost by like a good twelve days.
You really, I wouldn't have admitted that this is not good.
I want to say a man, squads. Look, we lost
some Lake neighbors. Mike Evans has been out, Brock Party
has been out. We had to start Jackson Dart. So
it's really it's not about how good of a general
manager are it's just how frankly, how lucky you won.
Your luck matters. But you get it's a long season.
We can rally. Baby. You see these shirts that are

(02:00:04):
being sold in Seattle. Now dumper, No it's this dump
here you these ladies wearing this, or no it's some
guy with man with the man breast. And now you
got Jamison Turner of the of the Seattle Mariners wearing

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the same. Maybe these shirts are becoming very popular. No,
it's just some random fan who caught his home run ball.
Oh is that what it is? Yeah, he's getting on
MLB Network. He was wearing a dump here shirt and
he caught it. Oh is that even a real player? No,
he's just a fan. Wait a minute, Wait a minute.
You caught a ball and you get to go on
MLB Network and you're in Detroit. I wonder if it's

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part of the deal, get the give the ball to
the guy. Maybe probably not. Jamison Turner sounds like a
backup outfit of it, isn't it Jamison Turner?

Speaker 2 (02:00:55):
Why not?

Speaker 1 (02:00:56):
I mean, it's not like you, Jamison Turner, enterprise young man.
So literally, he had a shirt that said don't hear
and he caught the ball with the name on it.
That's actually quite an incredible story if you think about it. Yeah, sure,
why not. I don't care about I don't want to
hear what he has to say about anything. I'm gonna
say this or you cut that ball? How was that
a great interview? Please Tigers win, because you know, Mariner

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fan is insufferable to begin with. Imagine if they're playing
in the American League Championship Series. Imagine if they're playing
the Yankees, who were rooting for Yankees, Mariners, who are
you rooting for?

Speaker 4 (02:01:34):
One?

Speaker 1 (02:01:35):
Two three? Okay, hold on, hold on real quick, Jonathan,
you get on this as well. We have to have
an answer. No, no hedging, no, as soon as I
say one, two three, after I say three, you must
say it. Oh my god, Okay, here we go, Here
we go. Y'all know this sudden. You're in your cars
right now listening to me too. Okay, Okay, here we go. Mmm,

(02:02:00):
go ahead, do it, okay, just do it, just do it.
I got came up with an answer. Oh no, you
see your natural don't even think about it?

Speaker 2 (02:02:09):
All right?

Speaker 1 (02:02:10):
What comes out?

Speaker 2 (02:02:12):
One?

Speaker 1 (02:02:12):
Two three? Manners? Yankees Mariners?

Speaker 2 (02:02:15):
Manners?

Speaker 1 (02:02:17):
But I mean it's because I think the Mariners would
have a better chance of winning at all than the Yankees.
I'm not even thinking that much, saying I'm just thinking
about having to sit there and being forced to root
for one of those two too. Yeah, but the Yankees
made it last year and lost, so this was fine.
I'm going Yankees in that scenario. Let's do one more time?

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One two, three? Mariners say it, then saying Yankees. No,
and they haven't won yet, they haven't made it. I'm saying,
go Blue Jays. I'm saying, go Tigers, Go Daggers, Go
Blue Jays. We're coming. Oh Canada, Oh please. Twelve fifty

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nine on Sports Talk seven eight is the Mat Thomas
Show with Ross five on Sports Talk seven Anti. So
the question I threw at Ross was, uh, what is
the number one concern for Dana Brown now that he's

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firmly under contract? Well, at least the contract's there and
he's gonna work for it in twenty twenty six. To me,
it's pitching, no if ans or butts. I think the
first I think the infield positions will be addressed. I
think there will be some tendering of some contracts, maybe
some non tendering. Thesiest way you fix the infield is
if you non tender somebody sports Harvey and do you

(02:03:42):
both tender Mauricio Dubon and Ramon Urius? That seems I
guess about the same player. That My guess is that
Urius is more infield, Dubon is more everywhere. Yeah, and
Dubon's probably gonna cost you a little bit more, will
be my guest. And the numbers on the his contract situation,
this is last year of arbitration. Yes, So I think

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that's gonna settle itself. I think the est parties Hamstring
will settle itself ultimately as to what he can do
and cannot do again, I think it's either going to
be first base or they try to move him. I
seem it can be supt for Christian Walker. I don't
think you saw Praties as a candidate for second base,
because you're then have a long time at second base,
especially if you use Jose Al Tuve at second base
a handful of times. But to me, going back to

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the essential issue you have, is it unfair to say
one and a half starting pitchers or do you think
are you gonna put Christian Hoavier in the solid number
two club as a second second starter for this team?
One and a half sounds about right, because if you
were to really judge Christian Heavier, it's a mixed bag.

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And that should not be a huge surprise because he's
fresh off of Tommy John surgery. Guys are not supposed
to come off with TJ surgery and come out here
and start throwing nine eight miles an hour and throwing
seven ings or two hit ball. Maybe he'll get a
well he was he threw six innings of no hit
ball in one of his starts. Right, no hit, no hit,
no shut out. Sorry, but but that was that was

(02:05:10):
a one off. That was typically what he was giving
you every single time. Man, if you're a Hunter Brown
and you know this organization is in depth, desperate need
of starting pitching, and you've had your best season as
a major leaguer. No, it was six innings and no

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hit against the Angels. Six no hit innings. It's the
Angel It's a double eighteen three walks still counts. Still
no hitter if it would have counted, but he ranted
a pitch count of shoes. I'm assuming, right, eighty five
pitch hit or something like that. Okay, so still to
me one and a half. I don't know if Christian Haavier.
I think Christian Heavier has got a spot. But is

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he a guy that I'm trusting on the second day
of this at the start of the season, I don't
think so.

Speaker 2 (02:05:53):
No.

Speaker 1 (02:05:55):
So back to my opponent on Hunter Brown, Hunter Brown, ROSSI,
He's going in saying, uh, where's your checkbook? Won't fill
it off for what I want to fill it off for, right,
I mean, if anybody's got the leverage is he represented
by rot Rars. He's not a he's not a advertising entity. Yeah,

(02:06:15):
but I don't I don't like him. Scott Boris, oh Man,
it was one hundred mile an hour fastball in on
the hands of judg sent out too. That's pretty clutch.
He's a throwback to the yesterday in power hitters, isn't he.
He's the best hitter walking. He's we best hurt on
the planet. Well show, I would take Otona doing a

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strikeout as much. Okay, well, but Judge's better power Otani.
He's a better player because he pitches. But anyways, sorry,
what we're talking about. Uh. Trade Rumors puts out their
projected arbitration. They have du Bond at five point eight
million and UEUS at four point four million, and these
are generally pretty accurate. They do it. This website does
a good job. Okay, Hunter Brown five point seven million,

(02:07:03):
Jeremy Penia is seven point nine million. Okay, you can
overpay those guys that number to keep them happy. Buy
out arbitration years. Give them more than what they think
they're were, not more than it's more what the numbers
say they're worth. Invest in them. Give them a little

(02:07:24):
bit of a bonus for Jeremy Payne's career season. But
we also say about Penya that's two instants and the
injured list this year. Okay, for an obleak and for
a uh he got hit by a pitch in the ribs.
I know, and I know, but you also know attendance
is part of the grade, regardless of the situation. Right,

(02:07:47):
It's just okay if you want to discount him for that,
I'm not going to discount. I'm saying he played one
hundred and twenty five games and they were great. Hundred
and twenty five games. How many years you're buying? How
much what he's twenty eight? I don't know. I know

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the Astros don't have the reputation doing it. They've done
it a handful of times. They're gonna try, They're gonna try.

Speaker 6 (02:08:18):
Well.

Speaker 1 (02:08:18):
They tried to do it with Corey. He didn't want to.
They tried to do it with Springer and he didn't
want to. They did it with jose Al two V
and Alex Bregmant. They didn't try. Matter fact to arbitration fight. Hey,
they probably tried. There was probably some discussions and Nicer said,
I'm good and we'll see what I said, we'll see
an arbitration court and they lost, and Contucker's like, went, good,
I lost, you lose. I'm getting out of here. And

(02:08:38):
now he's a cub and now he's gonna get paid.
He bet on himself. He's gonna get paid. It's gonna
get paid hopefully for seven years. Some people bet on
themselves and they don't get paid. Jared Kellenic was one
of the top prospects in baseball. See, I'll offered him
a long term base deal and then two years later
he was DFA. He was like, I don't even know
where he is. I believe he's in I believe he's
in the Canadian Rocky League Canadian Rockies. Wow, he's at

(02:09:00):
BAMF He's Yeah, he's playing for the Calgary Sheep heard
of vamp Bears. Can you give me a second second
city net part of the world. What do you mean, uh, Saskatoon? Okay, Yeah,
he's playing for the Sasacoon Sasquatches. I like that. That
in two nine with plenty of power got a huge ops. Yeah,

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so we'll see. Man, that's for Dan to earn. His
feeling has been and I'll stick with it. Is that
of the two Hunter Brown gets paid, they figure something out.
He gets a long term deal because he's younger as well.
So on the big board we have both get paid.

(02:09:41):
Neither get paid. One gets paid. Favorite feels like neither.

Speaker 2 (02:09:46):
I know.

Speaker 1 (02:09:46):
I don't want to think that Scott Boris wants to
hit the open market and there are they both Scott
Borris clients. Yes, Oh we're screwed. That's the reality of it,
right isn't Let me ask this Jose l two Bay
Scott Boris client. But but Jose was a special situation.
He bought out the Astros, bought out arbitrations. Does Scott

(02:10:10):
Borrows have a history of players buying out arbitration years?
I have to go up, and I don't want to
know that. You've got much more important things to do.
My point is that probably not much.

Speaker 2 (02:10:22):
I don't.

Speaker 1 (02:10:22):
I don't hear that a lot. You know, generally, he well,
first of all, Scott Boris, if you're like a quadruple
player and you're struggling on a minor league deal, you're
probably not a Scott Boris client. Scott's like, look to
me when you're a PS until eleven hundred exactly. So
I mean you're dealing with a kind of a different
level of clients, Isn't it crazy? Though some of his clients,
a lot of his clients, frankly, are guys that were

(02:10:43):
with other agents that were just trying to get their
feet wet into being major league players, and all of
a sudden he scoops up and takes these guys once
they hit that level, because Hunter Brown knows, if Scott
Boris takes care of you, you're gonna get paid. And
Jeremy Penny I thought the exact same thing. Yeah, I'm
just trying to find a list, uh Man, Matt Chapman

(02:11:03):
signed a big deal. I'm just looking at Wikipedia literally
of Scott Boors' clients. One Soto, that guy got paid,
but he he went to free agency. Blake Snell, remember
Blake Snell was all upset. He did a one year
deal with the Giants and then opted out, but then
got a brain new deal after that. Yes, and now
he's got a big deal with the Dodgers. By the way,

(02:11:26):
the Dodgers are beating up on them, Phillies, I'm trying
to see somebody who did like a you got paid early.

Speaker 14 (02:11:35):
I see.

Speaker 1 (02:11:35):
The thing of it is here's the question. I don't
know if the askers are gonna think this way. I
don't think they're gonna go, let's go all in on
one guy because we got we got a better chance
of keeping him. Everything looks I would hope the ASTROS
is an organization, would say, look, we got a lot
of money coming off the books here in the next
couple of years, let's do what we can to try
to keep both. And I think they will do so.
But it's almost like the same thing we were talking

(02:11:57):
about nic Cassia last Ross. If you say, well, we
put together an offer and you don't get them, you don't.
You don't get brownie points for at least trying unless
the deals elsewhere are so astronomical that it doesn't make sense.
That's that'll be. The question is if they don't sign
here and they get these ridiculous For instance, the ASTROS

(02:12:19):
in theory could have signed Kyle Tucker to a ten
year deal or three hundred and seventy five million dollars. Right,
there's the financial that they're within their opportunity to do so,
they just chose they didn't want to do that. If
if those two guys eventually two or three years down
the road, go somewhere else and get paid astronomical money.

(02:12:39):
Then you're gonna say, Okay, that makes sense. But if
they get mid level money or being who they are,
and the astros could have afforded them, and that's when
I think the criticism ownership would be fair. That's why
data go to go have dinner with Jim, have as
few cigars, drink a bottle of wine, and do something
outside the norm. Because you're in a not a tumultuous

(02:13:01):
time for an organization. You still have a lot of
star power. But you got me start thinking two to
three years down the road, and you're gonna it's hard
to get these elite shortstops that have turned the corner
in their professional careers. It's hard to find a one
dash one in a rotation, and I think Hunter Brown
has certainly proven that. And by the way, you're about
to lose your second best starter due to free agency.

(02:13:22):
You gotta you gotta if you're gonna get him back
if you want, will they even qualify offer him? I
would say yes. I would say yes, and he rejects
it and hits the market, that is that's it. I'm
basically going off of what I read read from Chandler Room. Yeah, yeah,
I mean he knows. I mean he's pretty smart. He
Chandler Rome thinks that that they will give a qualifying
offer from er Vel does would reject it, hit the

(02:13:44):
market and then probably go somewhere else. But if they
might circle back late in the game, if if Frommer's
not like in the deals he's seeing, I don't know.
Do you think people would be excited fromber came back. No,
they I wouldn't. I would not. I would say it's
actually there are a lot of more farmers porters than
I thought. I'm out on him. I understand that's okay. Yeah,

(02:14:06):
way would depend on the money, of course. Yeah, it's
like one year's twenty one year, twenty million dollars deal.
Why not if it's around with the qualifying offer? Is
what if it's a one year thirty million dollars deal
thirty millions too much? No chance? One twenty five lower
one twenty. That seems about right. We just played the
range game, did we not? I think so? One sixteen

(02:14:27):
out Sports Talk seven ninety we have Believe it or
not today came it up at one fifty. That's in
thirty five short minutes seven one three This old time
que for Ross seven to one three two one two five.
There's no topic, all right, I'll come up with one
here I did I did that our live yesterday. I
did my part seventh grade seven one three two one two. No,

(02:14:47):
you didn't help out people. So I'm a NFL announcer
scheduling kind of geek. Well, I mean geek about a
lot of things. But I'm just self iglossing myself here.
I went looked at the nfls di'monds for this week
on Fox Game of the week main game? Where is
the Dallas Carolina game which, no surprising time Dallas plays anybody.

(02:15:08):
Dallas could play Missippi Valley State and it would be
the main game. There are five games. There are six
regular Fox NFL crews. Ross what analysts is not assigned
a game this week? You have one guest, Mark stab
wounds Sanchez. Yeah, so who's the beneficiary. Mark Schlurth, who
was not supposed to work this week, is not going

(02:15:29):
to work. Oh good for ENID. So he's getting some
bonus games. Excellent. It has are you surprised at all
that Marks that Fox has been quiet about Mark Sanchez
or if they still try to probably just waiting to
get on details. I mean, I know we want to answer,
We always want to answer now, but these things are
gonna take time. Matt. You got to let the details

(02:15:50):
bear out. You gotta get marks. First of all, you
had to wait for Mark Sanchez to sober up and
get his side of the story. There's a lot of
video to check apparently as well. Yeah, the toxic yourport
will have a lot to do with how this thing
turns out, right, I think so yeah, So yeah, that's
the game of the week, and we are getting so
this is off. We're getting Dallas Dallas Carolina early, We're

(02:16:14):
getting uh Cleveland Pittsburgh early, and we're getting the late
game would be San Francisco Tampa Bay. So a lot
of NFS, a lot of little lot of NFC going
on there. I love Texans bye week, a lot of
red zone all day. Let's go, okay, Texans off week.
Then you earning by all right. I was saying that

(02:16:38):
it's wondering if you were going to say something I
learned second, I learned it from somebody. Won't say who? Okay?
All right? Seven one three, five, seven nine. If you
want to chime in anything we've gone over. On the
radio show today, we mentioned a little bit about the
Texans and again it's kind of quiet around the Texans streets.
They're all vacationing, I'm assuming or just getting away from it.
And a very important game coming up is we got

(02:17:00):
get Softy on next week? Huh we do? Yeah, it's Texans. See, well,
we'll get him on a week. What if the Mariners
are like in the Alcs, he's gonna rubbing it in.
That is a that is a difficult programming decision that
you and I have to make. I don't want to
hear that, I think for the sake of the show.
Since he didn't join us before that, you know, he
was gone. We had his buddy, that's true. Dick Fane
was on excuse me, Dick Fane, who's his partner on

(02:17:23):
kJ R. Dick Fane was great, we'll get We're gonna
have Softy on it. It's just it's just good fodder.
It's just by the way you're asking for Arianta Urseries
weekly grades. Yeah, pass blocking week one twenty nine out
of one hundred. Ouch. Last week seventy six point seven

(02:17:44):
out of one hundred. So with more playing time becomes
uh improvement, no sacks, no hits, one pressure. There you
go are Where does the name Ariante come from?

Speaker 11 (02:18:01):
Uh?

Speaker 1 (02:18:01):
That's uh, that's from the Staffordshire Ariantes. That's not the
worst answer ever given me before. Thank you? Like when
you're when missus Ercery had the baby come out of
the belly and just like, man, this kid looks like
an Ariante? Yeah, what's wrong with that? I have never
heard the name before in my life. Okay, of course

(02:18:22):
we've got some other bizarre names. Like I saw some
photos of Gwyneth Paltrow's daughter Apple. She's like teenager now,
oh really, Apple's all grown up. Yeah, I'm just trying
to avoid puns. I'm just trying to try to restrict myself.
But it's just does she look like Gwyneth? Yes, she's

(02:18:42):
a model too, apparently, so she didn't fall far from
the tree.

Speaker 13 (02:18:46):
Hmm.

Speaker 1 (02:18:50):
Let's let's ask Cam war what do you thought of
that joke? Hey, Cam Cam? Yeah, he's busy, cam Wards Cam,
I mean asking for Cam What did you think about that?
I don't need to hear from Cam woarre Okay, he's
not't even paying attention. What does Cam Ward, think about
that joke, got out this stuff, Freddy, Come on now,

(02:19:10):
timing is everything on the show? Were keeping a book
right now?

Speaker 10 (02:19:13):
We asking Peter Frows, I can take a picture.

Speaker 1 (02:19:19):
Right, Why would you do why would you dare? Blame
technology in this building?

Speaker 10 (02:19:22):
And you know, guys, they do this while I'm doing
an editing blogs.

Speaker 1 (02:19:25):
They seem like Peter editing. They do this just just
messed up. Thank you Jonathan for all that you do. Yeah,
why does everything happen during our show? Well they you know,
like you know, sometimes breaking news doesn't uh, most of
it happens two to six. That's true. But it's like,
you know, when you have maintenance of freeways and streets,
it's usually done like a nine o'clock at night. Yes,
they're like, you know, I tended to. Let's see how

(02:19:47):
some I actually hate when that happens. You're in Houston,
You're like, man, you know what, it's Saturday afternoon. There
could be no traffic, there's traffic everywhere. Should be a
nice breezy drive downtown. Everything is under construction and it's fine,
but it's been like feels like it's been perpetually for
like thirty years. Ridiculous I'm still amazed at the drive

(02:20:09):
at the drivetime traffic when I leave. I wake up
in the morning at seven point fifteen and I and
then the update on Channel two at seven thirty gives
you the drive time traffic and King one's pretty good.
I actually you, Katie folks. I feel terrible for y'all.
It routinely at seven thirty. It's between sixty and seventy minutes.

Speaker 2 (02:20:28):
Now.

Speaker 1 (02:20:28):
I don't know how far back Katie that is, if
that's like Katie Mills Mall, or if that's like Fry Road.
But could you imagine getting in your car and not
getting to it, not getting off your freeway until sixties
If you're going downtown for seventy minutes, you just gotta
live it. Matt gotta listen to podcasts, books on tape
or seven ninths, learn Espanol seven ninety, Oh sorry, Sports

(02:20:51):
Talks seven ninety with the seven ninety Morning Show. Or
you just get a downtown apartment and call it a day.
Could do that, or your room with your co host
Gil Well, somebody Joe a spot at next We'll do
that at one thirty on Sports Talk seven ninety one

(02:21:17):
thirty four on Sports Talk seven nine. We got some
nice folks that want to visit with us, So we're
gonna get to those comments in just a couple of seconds.
Real quick. Congratulations to Stanford football. They just received a
fifty million dollar donation from a donor. It is the

(02:21:38):
largest gift for the Stanford football program history. It is
a game changing gift. Former trustee Bradford M. Freeman giving
the fifty million dollars, it is not oh excuse me,
It is directly tied to football and not a building

(02:21:58):
or a facility project. So that library you want to
build Stanford, Nope, That School of Architecture you want to
build it are Stanford, Nope? Stanford football fifty million dollars
to help pay for salaries and maybe it's SOMETHNI on
the side, congratulates you got it. Fifty million dollars. That

(02:22:19):
changes programs huge. I guess good for them. Some of
my guests is they're going to improve their facilities because
you can't, yeah that there's a certain cap. You can't
give unlimited amounts of money on the from the school side,
you can only give so much. Now that to me
sounds like that's gonna help with that. And then ultimately

(02:22:40):
will help with You know, I don't Cardinals. Stanford Stadium
is a dump, so I don't know they're gonna Yeah,
once hosted a Super Bowl, but that was in the
early eighties. It's like Rice Stadium of the West Frankly.
Oh really, yeah, that's okay, that's bad. I'm saying that
really contextualizes it for me. You know the general manager
of Stanford football, that don't you, Andrew Luck? Andrew Luck?

(02:23:00):
Who would be in your second guess, Joe John Elway.
That's actually not terrible. You get one more of a
third guess if you would have guessed not John Elway
A J. Hinch. That's actually a wonderful guest. Those are
all good. I'm out of Stanford. The loves. That's it.
I think you've kno got Richard Sherman. Uh, yeah, that's good,

(02:23:21):
that's right. There was the Collins brothers were aren't they
Stanford players too? Basket? Rry and Terry? No, Jaron and
Jalen are sinking? Robin?

Speaker 2 (02:23:31):
Oh?

Speaker 1 (02:23:31):
Were they Cardinal low Pez weren't they?

Speaker 2 (02:23:33):
Yeah?

Speaker 1 (02:23:33):
I think we've just run through every Stanford amazing athlete.
I mean, excuse me. T Woods would have been the
proper general manager for you don't want him hanging around
the chaperones Gil on seven ninety or at the at
the breakfast places. Hi, Gil, thanks for holding.

Speaker 6 (02:23:53):
What's going on?

Speaker 11 (02:23:54):
You tell me a little bragging during your I don't.

Speaker 1 (02:23:58):
Want to hear that.

Speaker 2 (02:23:59):
Or was it?

Speaker 1 (02:24:00):
It's called shut up? I mean I don't want to
hear it. Sounds good too.

Speaker 11 (02:24:06):
I ain't got time for that.

Speaker 6 (02:24:08):
Well, I have plenty of.

Speaker 2 (02:24:09):
Time for this.

Speaker 11 (02:24:09):
I had a little bet with a buddy of mine
there Spot of He said that they don't make the playoffs,
he's gonna get fired. And I've been pulling for him
all year.

Speaker 2 (02:24:18):
So I made a.

Speaker 11 (02:24:19):
Couple of hundred bucks in the less of a week.
A hundred off Pete did he go to prison? And
a hundred of the spot would not get fired?

Speaker 1 (02:24:25):
Where did you make these bets?

Speaker 2 (02:24:27):
Buddy of mine?

Speaker 11 (02:24:28):
He's all craigedd u because he ain't m grated, he's
all happy, and so.

Speaker 1 (02:24:32):
He wanted to lose all his money to be nice.
He bet you that pe did he wasn't going to prison?

Speaker 11 (02:24:37):
Yes, wow, he had too much money. He would he
would not get convicted. He got convicted, he would not
get set to prison, and then we had this bet
a while back to the spot. He said, father's gonna
get fired. Let me tell you what the spot of.
Let let pitch to what's his name? They're only here
for the angels. Uh, dog got it, Mike trot Away,

(02:24:58):
Mike Trott. I was ready to fire his right there.
I was like, man, he deserves you. I don't care
about whose hundred bucks.

Speaker 2 (02:25:04):
But he was like, no, I got him. I got it.

Speaker 11 (02:25:06):
For for p Diddy and for and for a spawn
of state on the stage.

Speaker 1 (02:25:11):
Good job, Gil, Thank you.

Speaker 2 (02:25:13):
I wanted to brag about it.

Speaker 1 (02:25:14):
You know what You're also you're always walking to brag
on this show, Gil, because we do quite a bit
of bragging ourselves when we get things right, which is
not very often. Uh. Jonathan calling us from full Share
at one thirty nine on The Matt Thomas Show, Ross Jonathan,
good afternoon. Do you thank you for holding.

Speaker 4 (02:25:30):
What's up on?

Speaker 1 (02:25:30):
Man? So a couple of things.

Speaker 8 (02:25:34):
I appreciate you being very coy about. Uh the bye week.
We all know, Charlie Pololo was the one that it's
not a bye week, it's an off week. They didn't
deserve the bye week, and I totally.

Speaker 1 (02:25:53):
You don't know that, Like Jonathan, you don't know what
I'm saying. You don't know. You don't know I knew, Like.

Speaker 8 (02:26:00):
I think all of us that've been listening for many years,
we're like, watch up Polilo written all over it. What
come on, it's HiT's an off week. It's not a
bye week. They haven't earned the right to call it
a bye week. Nonetheless, that's not why I called. I
drive in downtown from fullsher every.

Speaker 4 (02:26:23):
Day, and uh, it's it's a.

Speaker 8 (02:26:26):
Beast, right, But don't tell my boss, and don't tell
anybody else.

Speaker 4 (02:26:31):
This is just between us, right.

Speaker 1 (02:26:33):
Yeah, of course I bring my fishing pole.

Speaker 4 (02:26:36):
I've got a couple of thoughts that.

Speaker 8 (02:26:40):
I stop off.

Speaker 1 (02:26:42):
So I leave.

Speaker 9 (02:26:42):
I've already left work.

Speaker 8 (02:26:44):
And I'm supposed to leave at five, but I duck
out a little early. I hit a couple of fishing holes.
This is probably more for Doug Pike, but I'm now
at George Bush Park. That's the only thing I'm going
to say. I'm not going to give up my other
fishing hole.

Speaker 4 (02:27:01):
I tell the way if.

Speaker 8 (02:27:02):
I'm gonna be home at seven, because traffic is a beast,
which normally it is. But I stop off and do
a little bit of fishing.

Speaker 4 (02:27:10):
That's shit for me, that's.

Speaker 8 (02:27:12):
Like my little I've earned the right to do it.
I got my laptop that way. If anybody calls me,
if I have to do any business, answer some emails.
I'm at I'm doing some fishing while I'm working, but
I won't say where I work, so I'll talk to
you later.

Speaker 1 (02:27:29):
Thank you very much. Your secret is good with us.
Suck it up, tuts. I'll be trying hard to bet
supermodels twice per week this year. What a rinky dink outfit?
They are at the major league level?

Speaker 2 (02:27:48):
Again?

Speaker 1 (02:27:50):
Why am I talking astros? These are different times? Why
is he in the rotation?

Speaker 2 (02:27:59):
What's this one?

Speaker 1 (02:28:00):
Ken Giles makes stink bombs. Say we smell like a
bouquet of orchids. What else does uh Kate Upton offer
besides a big chest?

Speaker 16 (02:28:15):
Mm hm.

Speaker 1 (02:28:18):
If you're right, you get a million dollars. If you're wrong,
you eat poop sandwiches for lunch. For a year, Bush
was un believable, damn near arousing. You're just a candy ass.

(02:28:39):
You're just a candy ass. Someone tackle me. I can't
make it any farther. Please, one of your homies, one
of your homies. Nothing to pitch about. H great, Now

(02:29:00):
the pussy foot around you're either lazy or ignorant. Oh
that's a good one. So those who kiss your ass,
who lick your boots, who carry your water bucket, they're cool.
They're right. That's basically ninety percent of Texans media, and
you're gonna do that. What here's here's a ninth inning

(02:29:25):
save situation. Must put Gregson in because he's my closer,
gregorson Greg Luke Gregerson. That's a deep cut, Stunner. What's
going on, Stunner?

Speaker 12 (02:29:42):
What's going on?

Speaker 14 (02:29:43):
Man?

Speaker 1 (02:29:44):
And wrong we're doing? We're having a ball.

Speaker 18 (02:29:48):
Yeah, I got a couple of issues, but that one
thing about who we will prefer to go to the
World Series. Man, I gotta say the Yanks cuz I'm
looking at everybody we let go that's still in the playoffs,
and I don't want them to win. I want them
to miss Houston just as much as they want them
when they was with us. That's why I'm rolling with

(02:30:10):
the Yanks. But kicking that is like trying to pick
between who's better Adam or Adam, Because what Adam.

Speaker 5 (02:30:19):
Is good for you?

Speaker 18 (02:30:19):
The other Adam ain't.

Speaker 5 (02:30:21):
So that's my issue.

Speaker 18 (02:30:23):
And one other thing I got to say is that
last game with the the text Renders and the Cleveland Guardians.
Hey man, you can't walk the basis load and then
hit the pitcher that and that put us out the game.
So I'll see why they fired Bouchie. But anyhow, hey man,

(02:30:45):
y'all have a good day.

Speaker 1 (02:30:46):
We'll see you later. But that was the reason why
they fired Boat. You both you left that zone. And
but you may become the gentleman the manager of the
San Francisco Giants if he wants to still be a
field manager. All right, Rossie, Believe it Not is up next?
Just highly googleble and you must give a eras an
answer within what two seconds, I'll say it. You must
then believe it's a one second all right, So one

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second for Believe it or Not? Next, it's a seven
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(02:31:31):
seven nine zero Rockets in action tonight here on Sports
Talk seven ninety. It'll be a six to thirty Rockets
radio network start. We don't do pre and postgame shows
at least locally for Rockets preseason games, but it'll be
a seven o'clock tip. Should be Kevin Durant making his
Rockets debut in a Rockets red uniform. I don't I

(02:31:55):
don't even know what uniform the whole whites, I don't
know whatever he's wearing. He's gonna be wearing number seven,
and it's gonna say, you want to call me old foge.
I like the white uniforms at home. I like the
colors uniforms on the road. I would say, yes, well, now, yes,
I am not adverse to Lakers Lakers gold at home. Yeah,

(02:32:17):
I've seen the Lakers work. Gold on the road is
really weird to me. It's always weird, and it's always
all and it's Nike driven. Just sell as many different
alternates as they can.

Speaker 2 (02:32:26):
Is Nike, Nike.

Speaker 1 (02:32:27):
You sorry, don't know Major Baseball. You have to cap
out at five uniforms, Okay. I believe NBA basketball's fifteen. Yeah,
what's five? It's five a year? Okay, So you got
like thirty different uniforms. Like you know, it's a total center.
You can go there's a section of the arena where
every uniform the Rockets have ever put on is available
for you to look at. Oh really Yeah, it's very

(02:32:49):
interesting and I'm a I'm a huge uniform connoisseur. I
like the the H Town script was fun. The H
Town Blue was fun. Yeah. I believe the what's back again?
H Town in the red and blue is back this year.
I think Okay, they did the dunksture not type uniforms

(02:33:10):
last year, right, yeah, I think that's what it is, right,
doesn't duncture not the H Town that went out? You
know what, you go back to catch them a mustard
full time? You got me for life. Those are the best.
Those are the goats. They won two championship and said
let's change it up. Yeah, five minutes leth the goal.
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(02:34:17):
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Believe?

Speaker 1 (02:34:41):
It national anthem of Belgium is God's Glory to Belgium.
Believe it or not? Hurry believe it? No, it's the
What the hell is this brob antheum? Is that right?
Does that even about right? All right? Let's go uh
renee on seven on a renee. What was your favorite
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k Opton joke, That was Charlie. But thank you. Ukraine.
The anthem is Ukraine's glory has not perished. Believe it
or not? That is a believe it. Thank you for
listening to Charlie appreciates it as well. Steve one, you
ready to play Believe it or not? Believe it. Sri

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Lanka's national anthem is Mother Sri Lanka. Believe it or not?
Number two for the when Thailand's national anthem is called
national song, Believe it or not? It is a believe it.
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You're ready to play Believe it or not. Germany's national
anthem is the Song of the Germans. Believe it or not.
Believe it is correct. North Korea's national anthem is the
Patriotic Song. Believe it or not. That is a believe it.
I'm sorry, oh man, challenge it. Chris on seven ninety Chris,

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your favorite part of today's ten the two radio show.

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Listening to about the infield and what's going to be
done with the infield to come?

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Really curious.

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I will go with you on that, my friend. Croatia's
national anthem is upon the Adriatic Sea, Believe it or
not not? That is It's correct. It's our beautiful homeland. Uh.
Statement number two for the wind. Portugal's national anthem is
the Portuguese Believe it or not not. It's a believe it.

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I'm sorry. Run on Semini Run, You're ready to play
believe it or not. Hungary's national anthem is hm H
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an N right at the very end. Okay, maybe I
misspelled it. Hungary him Believe it or not, it's believe

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believe it. These are quite challenging, my friends. I on
seven on the ike, you're ready to play believe it
or not? Believe. Uruguay's national anthem is all honored Uruguay
our home, believe it or not not. That's current. You

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